Morning everyone. Well, let's uh stand for the pledge. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. All right. Agenda confirmation. Do we have any additions or subtractions to the agenda? >> Yes, we have a few. >> Um, Mr. Chair, I'd like to add items for it to replace production and recovery
Dell servers and also an item for it. >> You want to add? >> Yeah. >> Um, you could add it uh probably on the last topic under me. >> Sounds good. We'll add it to number five. >> Yeah, number five. And then also for it,
an additional um air conditioning unit in the server room. >> And then I just got a note from um Mary from Auditor Treasure and she'd like to add um Wildflower Golf Course tobacco license.
>> So we will do that. >> Um Carrie, I believe we had also talked at finance of pulling the credit card policy. Yes, I'm going to get to the I'm going to get to the polls. >> Where should we add the coal? Should we just add that to the other list in the
consent agenda? >> We can't add agenda. I think you're going to have to add it and Mary will have to speak to it. >> Under commissioners. >> Yeah, we can do that. >> Auditor. >> Yep, we'll do that. >> So, those are my additions. Then I have
a couple of um requests to pull items under um human resources for um the auditor treasurer job descriptions. I would like to have that item pulled. There's just a few um items that came to
light after this was vetted through committee. So I would expect that'll come back um our next meeting. >> Okay. >> And then also a similar circumstance with the credit card policy as we spoke about that in finance. There's some adjustments that um we would like to
make prior to finalizing that as well. >> Is there any other um additions or subtractions to the agenda? >> I don't have anything further. >> Okay. I I'll uh I'll I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda with the changes. >> I'll make a motion to approve the
agenda. >> Second. >> All right. Motion by Erica, second by Barry. Any further discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries. All right. Minutes from October 7th meeting. Are there any uh additions, corrections, or
changes to the minutes? >> Mr. Chair. >> Yep. >> Um page page two of three under budgeting work session. It says at 8:30 at highway, the highway building
maybe. We don't know which highway we'd be at. We just >> the middle of the highway. That's pretty minimal. Um, but on two of three under motion to approve the abatements, um, I would like it listed that they were abatements from the state. They weren't local abatements. So, I don't know,
Mary, what's the wordage on that? >> What? Pardon me? >> Tax court. >> Tax court. >> So, they weren't county abatements. They were state tax court abatements. Is any any other I I just had one question on on page two of three under
uh uh report the third bullet point. Was is it is that big sugar bush or was it little sugar bush? >> Big. >> Big. Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. >> What's >> Mr. Chair? Oh, I don't know if I think I forgot my notes or not, but I think the
Lake Agassy Regional Library, I think it's 80% number of transactions, not card, >> not card holders. It's transactions, not card in the >> formula. Oh, I thought it was I thought it was >> I thought it was card holders.
>> I thought it was just was at the meeting and I'm and I forgot that paper. I thought I brought it with but um it's really not that important but just >> I can listen back to the meeting and see what she said. >> Yeah, just I mean I it's not a big deal
but it's I thought it was transactions. >> Okay. >> So we can just >> I think she said cardole maybe said cardole. >> I think she did I think she did say >> transaction. You can just leave it >> okay >> like that. But I think I believe it's transactions.
Any other additions or corrections? >> All right, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes. >> Some moved. >> Motion by Erica, second by Phil. Any more discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries. All right. Consent
agenda. Are there any items in the consent agenda that anybody would like to remove or pull it? Sorry. All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Barry. Do we have a second?
>> Second. >> Second by Erica. Any discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. All right. Motion carries. >> Um, commissioners, open forum. Do we have anybody
on the open forum list? Sweet. Okay. So, uh, Megan, we have you on the agenda. So, is that okay? Okay. Perfect. All right. Let's move on to reports and correspondence.
Who would like to go first? I can go first. We had housing and EA. Um we discussed the housing contract at length at our EDA meeting. Um MMCDC did provide a um a bit of a breakdown about their how their
employees time is spent on Becker County Housing. It had always previously been two the equivalent of two FTEEs. Um and now they're saying it is an equivalent of 2.6 FTEES. Um, so
I don't know that we necessarily came to a conclusion other than some of the board was were more apprehensive about not going with the contract just to due to it is now October and um we don't have you know anybody in place and they
don't want to go into bringing housing back in without a transition. So one thing we did ask for MMC to to consider is a six-month contract. Um, also at EDA, we are waiting for two more bids. I believe we had talked about this
a couple months ago in our report that we have to do um some lead paint testing on 13 of our public housing units. Um, we're waiting for the final confirmation on the number of the houses that will require it. It's any houses built prior to 1978.
Again, it's a requirement by HUD. We can't get out of it. It's always been a requirement apparently, but Becker County has always had a variance because there was no one in the area doing the testing. Now there's a couple vendors. So, we are waiting for um I believe it was one or possibly two other vendors to
provide a bid. The one bid that we did get, it was for right at 53,000 to test the 13 homes. Um this is a reimburseable expense. um for the capital funds um we
have about $65,000 in that um but then that also means that there are some other projects that would maybe not get done like we I think we had planned maybe for roof flooring that kind of stuff. So, while we have the money for that, we may not get other projects
done. And then the only other thing I have for EDA is we are putting a request um for bid for comprehensive property owners insurance, which I believe we will it'll be effective January 1st. I don't know when the request for bid is
due, but or will be posted. >> Quote. >> Yeah. Quote, >> comprehensive bid quote for what? For what in property? >> Property for all of our >> all of your property. All the properties. >> Yep. The public housing. >> They're they're not through.
>> No, I don't think they can be. >> I believe we've looked. >> Yeah. I I don't >> I believe we looked, but I don't think we can. >> Yeah. I'm not sure why. >> I think we can't either because we we didn't even discuss that. But >> yeah, I thought I think we had did
before. Maybe we did at housing. >> But anything else for EDA? No, it's just that we should just paint those houses. >> I mean, if that if that was all it took >> expensive to test for this paint or for this lead paint and then they're going to say, "Well, you have to paint them."
>> That's the solution. If they find >> Yeah. >> lead, but we can't do that. But that's what >> we still have to have them tested because they've never been tested before. Um, so >> I don't know. That's not >> We tried talking our way out of it, but >> we we've been trying to get out of it, but I guess we can't get out of it.
>> Yeah. Um, I also had West Central Regional Juvenile Center. Our numbers for secure placement continue to trend down, which will eventually affect our two-year look back for our portion of the budget. I believe that we'll we'll we'll discuss that again in July. Um,
there's also a lot of discussion um at the meeting about the statute change that is effective August 1st of 26, which um increases the delinquency age to I believe it's 12, which was previously 10. Um, so what that means is that children ages 10 to 12 will now be
referred to child protection. Um, and I did just talk with Denise a little bit at finance on um, and also plan to bring it up at our next human services meeting as this could that impact you know their workload. Uh, according to West Central
um, it it's about 5% of their population, 5% of the kids that come into the secure unit, but it does vary from county to county. Um, so we don't have an exact number of what it would mean and I'm not sure that that's also
the right path, but I don't make the rules. >> And I and I think the the question is it's might be the right path for some, but now now you're going to get some of these very mature. >> I mean, they're they're adults. I mean, the size-wise and strengthwise as near
adults and u they can >> they're very they you know, they're combative. you know, if they are combative, then it's it's dangerous situation. So, I mean, it's >> I I think there should be some exemptions that can or way to file
exemptions on some that are >> Yeah. >> You know, >> wasn't was wasn't that something they were looking at? Cuz didn't isn't Minnesota one of the only states that have done this that don't have an exemption? >> I'm not sure about that. I >> I thought I saw that somewhere, but >> I'm not sure.
Um, one other thing, they did also provide a handout of all the services that are provided if anybody's interested in it. Um, because of all those services that that they offer in their secure secure unit, they really have sparked a lot of they're a popular choice among non-members because kids
can come and actually get services. Um, and non-members are what keeps our um, member rates low. So, um, we had partnership for health. We just had a meeting in preparation for splitting from Wilin and Otterell County
the first of the year. Um after the first year year it'll just be Clay and Becker. We set up meetings for the rest of the year and approved the bylaw bylaws, joint powers agreement and delegation agreement and also reviewed the MDH governance change timeline which we are in line with. Um
>> and so that resolution will come to the board >> in December I think. Y >> who's who's leading partnership for healthy? So, we're it's going to be co- administrators from Becker County and Klay County. >> But Klay Countyy's >> Yeah. Yeah. That's why we're doing co uh
what was his name? Uh >> I don't remember. >> Um >> Patrick Hollister. >> No, was No, he's a he's for the partner. He's he's not the there's I can't remember who it is. That's I know it's a horrible way to say I can't remember his name, but but um
>> this is my first meeting. So >> we are we are we are going to have co- administrators and then once >> January comes >> January comes then we're going to decide who the who is in charge who the administrator of the partners of the CHP
will be >> because it's official in January. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> But as of right now in the interim we have co-administrators. Um I also met with some constituents on Friday regarding um a wake board
wakeboats. Um two were from Big Sugar Bush, one from Pickle Lake. Um both according to the U of M study, both lakes would not be appropate appropriate for wake surfing. They provided um maps of the lakes including depths and lengths. Um so again, they're not
looking to ban boats, just wake surfing. I did advise that they reach out to all the individuals um all the commissioners individually to gauge if there would be board support prior to them putting a lot of work into an ordinance. So uh
then my last meeting I had human services everything's on the agenda agenda um except for I just wanted to give a shout out to the income maintenance unit. they received a 95% or higher certificate for quarter two um
for their timeliness which only eight out of the 87 counties achieved. So that was um pretty good. And then just a note, if the government shutdown continues through November, there will not be sufficient funds to issue
November SNAP funds. So that will likely just have a huge impact on our local food shelf. That's all I have. Um, Phil and I um had actually a planning and zoning advisory committee last night. We we talked and we solved
the problem on blight property. So, we >> Good, good, good. >> Glad to hear that. It's >> all done. >> Did you clean them all up already? >> Yeah, we got we issued orders. So obviously um blight properties is a very difficult there's a there's a very fine
line between property rights and and what's considered a a blight property to um what we kind of are zeroing in on is is um kind of a committee to go out and in to go out to
investigate or or view a property and try to offer help. it would we would try to consist someone of uh mental health or community community health. Um a commissioner from the district that it's in. Um Carrie volunteered. She said she would be the um um but you'd have zoning
and and the other thing is we thought this was a environmental you know there's some environmental concerns. So I mean we looked at a couple examples and and what some people think is a a blighted property. I think the committee said that's not blight. There's some garbage there. It's
not kept up well, but I mean it's not something that the county is going to go in and and try to monitor. But then there's another one that was just scattered with everything and they now everyone agre that is something that needs to be >> is that the one by the river? >> Yes. >> So I think I think as we get guidelines
I think it's going to it's going to have to be case by case. You know obviously if if it's if it's in the middle of a 40 in the pine trees, you know, no one sees it, we're it's not a concern. But I think mental health is one of the issues and and what I think is if you go and do
all this work and if you don't include mental health and we go to court to try to enforce it and there's no addressing the mental health issues, it's not going to go anywhere anyway. So I mean I think you got to you got to offer help and solutions to at the front end right away instead of trying to escalate it. Let's
try to see if we can offer help and and try to um get something resolved. >> So is there a difference between mental health and drug abuse? How does that >> No, drug abuse actually is criminal and and in the ordinance currently we there's a criminal activity that would that is also considered nuisance that we
could consider as a nuisance. So that would be um a totally different totally different you know there's there's a lot of nuisance ordinances like in the cities in bigger cities that deal with they call nuisance is um illegal
activities is a nuisance also and they they have some process and we could incorporate that but we're going to have a little committee Phil and I and Steve and um I think we're going to try to get someone from mental health and try to get a smaller committee to try to determine how to address these and what
criteria and how what's a what's the level of escalation type of type of thing. Um so that's where we're at on that. >> Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson, um what I came away with after an hour of talking and getting pretty much nothing done, we just kept talking over comes
down to two things. What is the process? We have a process, but what we were more talking about, what is the threshold? Where does a property become a blighted or nuisance property? And that seemed to be in the eyes of the beholder. And that's
>> and I don't know that you can I don't know that you can like write that down on a piece of paper. >> Correct. >> But you have to be fair to everyone. So one person's blight is another person's treasure. So >> that was what I took. >> I think that's why if you take a committee out, you look at a site and
you start listing the items of concern and and health and safety and >> that's >> environmental concerns >> and and mental health. And I think that's where um is it visible from the road? Is it visible to the neighbors? Is it is it a health concern? I mean, you have all these questions and you answer
them and and it's some you know and this will escalated if you get this we're there's lots of work left to do but um I think that's you have to look at it individually. You can't um concur. I mean, I I I've know of some that I don't
want, you know, anyone trying to push push items. I mean, I I they're doing okay and and that's if they don't mind it, then that neighbors shouldn't mind it either. So, >> Yep. Yep. >> But the ones that I've seen are the ones
that concern me are so extreme that I feel like there's not going to be a big problem deciding. But, >> Right. >> So, our conclusion came down to, okay, is it a solid waste issue? Is there garbage there? And then can we sue the situation? Can we help the situation
rather than go in and lay down the law and say you have to or else? Is there ways we can help? Bring a dumpster out, you know, whatever. >> There's issues with that that too, but um that's kind of where we were that's the direction we were headed, right, Barry? >> Yep. And you know, in some of these
cases, we might offer I mean, we might offer county assistance. I mean, we haven't gone we haven't discussed that, but I'm open to, you know, because this is these are bad and they're complex and if we just displace someone from their home, then we're just throwing them into
another place that's going to have problems. So, um, and I don't think anyone's going to take advantage of if we try to help clean up your yard. If you you're involved pollution control, the county commissioner, the mental health, I mean, if you're having all these people, no one's going to try, oh,
a free dumpster if I but then you have numerous meetings and all these agencies coming to your place, nobody's that's not something anyone's going to want to happen. >> And the reality is is many of these places wouldn't be able to do it on their own. >> No. you know, to whether they had the
resources to do it or just the mental capacity to be able to actually clean it up where they're going to need that extra assistance. >> But I think I think we're all on the page same page here. This is we're only looking at the extreme >> extreme >> correct
>> problems that we have. So, and the other thing we talked just briefly about wind wind and solar power um farms and and transmission lines. Uh knowing that once they get to a certain point, I think the Minnesota PUC dictates the rules on
that. So, um we didn't get into that very much at all. Um anything else add ordinance, Phil? >> No. Um I had the met with we had a library meeting a finance meeting and one the big issue was discussing our the
request. Um I'll just give you a brief overview and we can discuss it more at at when we have our next budget meeting. But um they did ex did go through and I and I've got some um some literature to show where we are
in cuz uh Jamie the the financial um expert from Laurel who's been there longer and I've been commissioner broke it down in cost um in the cost basis for for charging and we are over we are paying more than our share but it's not
nearly what I thought we would be um and there's one county that's underpaying considerably. It's not Klay County. So, I mean, I think I would like us to try to transition or to bring that component in um for next year's budget. So, we'll have to discuss what how how much of
that um how we're going to contribute for this year. We were if you do the financial end and and because we are basically supplementing the Becker County users at the Detroit Lakes Library also, >> but we are if you went straight off the
usage, we would be overpaying by 30,000, >> which isn't nearly what I thought it would be. I thought we'd be paying I thought we were overpaying quite a bit more. >> So, if you go by that if you go by that formula, we are overpaying. If you go by, you know, there's formulas are
formulas. You can get them high or low, but that one seems to be a little bit. >> So, just one one question, Commissioner Nelson. So, we're over we're overpaying by third. Does that just count >> for that formula? >> Does that formula just count our three satellite sites or does that count Detroit Lakes too?
>> Counts Detroit Lakes is separate, but we have card users that are using it that are not in Detroit Lakes city limits. They're out in the rural and they come into Detroit Lakes and use it. So, those members are counted as Becker County users.
>> Okay. not within the city limits. So does that mean they are using the card used for part of this equation then or is it >> in in even in the cash even in the cash or how what's the word I'm using for the
actual cost for the library so the the employees that so they use the transactions the amount of transactions for Becker County for the Detroit Lakes and throughout the whole uh system and we were overpaying if you go by those numbers um the cash what it costs for for us. And you know, those are all in
that and I mean it's two pages. Um we are over we are we would be overpaying by $30,000. Klay County is actually overpaying by 6,000. Um and then I think most of the rest are underpaying um a little bit. I think I think city of
Detroit Lakes was overpaying a little bit too. So um >> I it's very interesting when we have that budget work time. I think we can look at that a little closer and then as we move forward we can say we would like and they were very agree you know it was very it was a really good meeting
because everyone opened their eyes a little bit oh we didn't realize this and and I think it's Pulk County which has got all kinds of small little libraries um is really getting the bargain and um >> I think we want to balance this out a little bit so
>> but we'll have to discuss our what our we'll discuss it more at our finance Um Rich and I had um natural resources we I think what did we we decided to reject all bids on the building. We're
going to keep the building. It was a it was a >> we had to pay to get rid of it and we're not willing to do that. We think there's usage for it. >> Building the >> Pelican Wershed building. >> Oh, >> sorry. At at Dun Locks. Yep. >> So, we're going to keep that there. >> What were we What were we recently talking about that could use that
>> sharp? Well, we have lots of we have lots of uses for it. I mean, for just >> So, Mr. Chair, Commissioner, we put out a a bid to see if anyone would take that away, and we didn't get any. >> We got bids, but they were us paying them to >> Yeah. demo bids. >> No.
>> So, we we rejected those and said, "We'll keep it. We'll we're going to put in as we're putting in a request for a grant to pave that in front of that and just have we'll just do angle parking in there." And I think that could should do 10 10 12 spots anyway, you know, two
week each side, which and then if for winter storage, we can still use the building um for different >> Is it movable? >> Well, it's a it's a pole building, so you take the tin off, pull the poles down. >> I mean, you could certainly move it >> cuz it's really tall, too. So, and it's
really hard to move one like that, but >> um we were we had the trail routing final study, but we said that should be brought to the full board. We didn't need to see it at the committee level. So that'll be um a full board presentation I think first meeting in
it's coming up anyway. The trail routing study um the swim beach uh the DNR removed uh rebar and it should and now we're looking at making improvement through soil and water is going to look at uh
making some enhancements out there. >> Sage. >> Yes. >> Sorry. Um um we're seeking partnership for health uh seeking funding for trail construction.
Uh the 2029 funding allocation of 620 230 would be 800 requires 20% local match. So um Steve said consider bringing letter of intent with more information at the November 4th board meeting.
That's due number six. Um, Little Sugar Bish Lake parcel cabin. There's a cabin up there that that needs access and and we're just going to grant an ement a non-exclusive easement right on his road. Um, White Earth Resources interested in collaborating on this
area. Um, oh, that's the cabin. Sorry, that was the cabin. But, um, White Earth is looking at collaborating on that and working with us, too. Anything to add on that, Richard? >> No, they're just want to help maybe mow the lawn and >> upkeep it a little bit. So >> there is a nice nice cabin there, but I
mean it would I don't know what to do with it. >> That was the property that I went and talked to because we talked about that property at the RA committee >> extensively >> and I went and talked to the town board and there was some community members that were there. There was mixed support
for making it more of a public access >> Yeah. >> swimming beach. I I don't if I think if we make it just a public swim beach, I think there'll be some usage, but I don't think it's going to be overly used. I I just think it's >> it's probably correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not the best beach.
>> I haven't I don't I have not >> I've heard it's not it's a it's nice swimming, but it's not a sand bottom. >> Then and one of the issues on that lake right now is that there's swimming on the at the access. So, it's it's an issue with boats coming in and out. It's >> a safety issue. Yeah. Which was why a
large a large number of the people were um supportive of making that a swim beach? >> No. >> Um we discussed the STS leader just like we did at our meet our regular meeting. Um I was thinking about we also had an easement from an individual that needed
to get access to his property and it's just coming off a a power line road easement. So it's just another little jaunt up there. Um, we discussed the policy or um the cabin lakeshore wreck cabin leases and
allowing people to allowing people on to have the list or contact list from us because they can't find anyone that they want they have a cabin they want to rent it out or sell it to the new lease owner but nobody they don't they haven't found anyone on their list. So, we are going
to call or Mitch is going to call the leaseo holders on the list and then see if they want to have their number and they can try to work out something like that, right? >> Yeah. Is >> that right? >> Um,
we had a some land sales, some parcels for land sales. Not a whole lot, but there's a few of them going on. Um, if you want the list, I do have a list of them here. if anyone wants to look. >> No, thank you. >> There's nothing. There's some couple in
Ottaban couple. They're scattered all over. Um, anything else? >> Well, we're they're moving forward on that Rat Lake cell tower. So, we're going to get another cell tower up there. >> That'll be nice. >> And then, uh, >> road maintenance map.
Um, we got uh three they had they did set a record on that wild rice. 320,000 pounds. Oh, >> wow. Yeah, that's a lot of wild rice. >> Um, we're going to putting in for that grant. Um, part of it is looking at
remodeling the old facility. This the shelter that locks. Um there's a couple couple um and this is from a a student at um MState threw these together. I I suggested we not have so much enclosed area just a shorter closed area. This is
a match. What was the match on this one? Was it 7525 or 50/50? I can't remember on the >> and I we kind of put a dollar limit that we're we're not putting a lot of money into this. So >> I thought it was 5050. I can't remember that. Can we use those some of those
donations for the part of the match too? >> Oh, Steve was going to look in if we could do in kind. >> Okay. Okay. >> But >> yeah. >> Um I think that was it for um one other meeting. I can't a paper here. I >> think you had courthouse. >> Oh, we had courthouse, but everything's
on the agenda for courthouse, I believe. >> Thank Thank you. >> All right. Uh, who would like to go next? >> Mr. Chair, uh, I will. Um, I had recreational uh, you know what, before I start, um, I think it might be nice or or at least consider this. You know, we
go through our our reports and correspondence and then we come back to it just like Barry said, we're going to come back to it later. I wonder if we did this did our reports as we do the action items, would that help so we don't have to come back to it later? >> Come back to what? Well, so we do our
reports. We'd list all human services, highway. We'd list everything out. We would do our report as we do our actions. >> I think if it's an action item, there's no like courthouse. I didn't report on anything because it's all everything's on the agenda. We will discuss it then if there's any question.
>> Okay. I've just noticed that I report on stuff then it comes back again later. >> Here's what I would like. Don't report on it if it's on the agenda. >> Yeah. Yeah. Don't report on it if it's on if it's on the agenda. You can just not just eliminate it. >> You know, if there's questions then or you want >> That's fair. I'm just looking a way to
speed it up or make it more. >> Okay. Um I had recreational advisory commission. Um we had the snowmobile associations come in just to say what they're doing for the year. Um I'm going to ask you a little trivia question. How many miles of snowmobile trails do we have in Becker County? Dave, you can't
>> I can't answer this one if they don't. >> You can guesstimate. I'm never very good at this guessing game. Maybe >> 428. >> Good job. 400. That was pretty close. >> Say 315. >> Well, I looked back in my little brain and I thought picked the number. I don't know. >> We got We got four snowmobile
associations about 400 miles of trails. Um Becky Mitchell also came in uh from the historical association and talked about if we're going to do any pictures or anything down at Dun Locks, like of the history there. Uh we we we had a conversation about branding stuff in
Becker County using QR codes or something. It was just a preliminary discussion, but if we ever do do that or want to do that and then move that on down to Bucks Mills, we'd want the same color pattern. We want it all to kind of look the same. Um has not been developed yet what that would look like, but we
did have that discussion. We also talked about the big sugar bush, the house out there. Uh what do we do? We talked about moving it. We talked about selling it. We talked about tearing it down. um ad nauseium and we never came up with a with a
>> you can actually take them apart most of them. There's some value in that. >> I mean that's a log house. >> It's a log house and you can actually take them apart and I don't know. We've talked about what to do with it. I don't know what you do with it. I don't want it to rot there. That's for sure. >> Well, that's what's happening each time
we kick the can down the road. It's a little wor. We talked about maybe getting some somebody in there who could run a little campsite. Right. I mean, housing is an issue in the county. >> Could we use that housing there for our benefit? So, I mean, we we talked about
a lot of things, but so >> and and we kicked the can down the road, too. >> We did. >> Um, on the 15th, they had watershed. Theou uh with the county uh is effective as when it was signed. So, that should be effective now. Theou with the
watershed um airport. So, you guys approved or we approved uh two two projects. The taxi way is finished. It was a seal coat mill overlay there. Um that's finished. Um we also did an apron we approved an apron reconstruction
that'll happen in 2026. Um so, one of the two projects is done that we approved. Um H Heartland Trail, me and Dave had the H Heartland Trail study that $550,000. Jim was there as well. Um there was some
um overage from the Frzy Trail, so we had to decide what it could be used for and where we were going to use it. So we decided to use it on uh the Dun Locks to Bucks Mills trail. Um also kind of came to our attention that uh
the Frzy Trail, which was just done this summer, is not ADA compliant. So there's it's off an inch in places and um it's not meeting some thresholds. So that was quite disappointing to hear. Um >> is that because of the contractor or
>> we're still working on that I guess to figure out what but I mean it's a trail. It's very It's very minimal and it's on the edges. >> So, it's it's kind of ridiculous. >> And it's required to be ADA compliant for >> it's got to be a certain grade or what
Jim just >> can't be any >> Yeah. They measured out >> 2.1%. >> We'll work through that. >> So, we might have to take some of the money from that that leftover money from
the Bucks Mills that we want to use in the Bucks Mills trail for engineering and use on this to fix this, but we don't know the depth of the problem yet. >> Wouldn't you just can't you just grind it? It's got to be added. >> Grind the middle.
>> We're looking at an overlay. It's It's really constructibility. It's hard to do. I mean, the roller goes over too far. You could push it down. They had gravel trucks running on it, you know, to do the shouldering. So, that could help it. We're going to kind of
let it settle over the winter. See what happens. >> Any mudjacking? can mud jack the edges up a little. Cut cut cut the middle and >> everything costs money though and that's got >> but another overlay. >> Yeah, I know. I know. That's what we're
trying to figure out. So, um anyway, so uh then on the 15th we also had uh that CND construction demolition study. They're doing that that grant study where we have a lot of Zoom meetings. So, thank you guys for filling out that mission values and goals. That was really helpful moving forward with that
that group, that 10 county group. Um Barry talked about the zoning ordinance review committee, the bladed property. We kind of talked about that. Um and then I had I had Steve since in our in our work session we talked about um
we we talked about our STS program and and Roger and the IQIC program and all that. So I had Steve I said you know what would it cost if we didn't have the IQ program out at uh out at solid waste there at our MURF? What would that cost?
And so he said the cost now is about 325,000. If he breaks down what the IQ portion is, he said if we had to hire full-time employees, county employees, it'd be about 580,000. So it' be about $250,000
additionally. I mean, we can't let that MURF stop. I mean, we we we got to be doing the recycling. So he thought that's what it would cost um if we had to hire employees to do that. That was his his best guess. So about $250,000.
>> We get revenue in the jail. >> We do. We do. So there's some cross department stuff that's going on too. Correct. So and then you have to always ask the question, what's the county benefit? What is the benefit to society? There's rehab of you're giving people
some rehab. I don't know that the benefit at the jail is as great as you think because it's a lot more work to do these quick. Correct. >> And if you could get I mean I share Sclander here but if you could get federal inmates instead of these >> you would have the cash flow and not the
the workload. So it's not necessarily a benefit to the I mean it depends. >> Well and that's what I heard Chris say a little bit too. So I mean I just I was just curious. So I had Steve run just run some quick numbers. So that's what he found out just at a quick
>> that dollar amount. I mean what would that add to your tipping fees? >> Well, I mean >> we'd have to pay for it somehow, >> right? Yeah. >> But I mean it would be tipping fees or or recycle expense. >> Correct. That's how we'd have to pay for it. Correct. >> Y >> um and also just one other thing came
up. Uh you know with everything that happened out at the Murf and stuff, Roger still needs a backup. Correct. Yep. >> We still do not have a backup for we have to we have to keep working towards that. >> I thought we had a plan for that. >> Well, we
>> Yes, we were working on um if you recall in the sheriff's committee as they're hiring um correctional officers that was going to be >> the backup potentially. Originally, we had talked about the STS crew backing up the IQwick, but we don't currently have that position currently. Unfortunately, there's >> we're looking at other there there's
there we're short correctional officers, so they don't have enough to >> Well, and and so as you think about this issue, you know, trying to find an additional correctional officer, which we don't have enough, you know, do we bite the bullet and and and do this and just
get people up at the Murf and and I mean, that's just something to consider, not now, but going down the road. And that's that's all I had. The only other thing is I had NRM with Barry and and human services with Erica.
I'm just going to mention and I should have had better notes on this that timeless timeliness certificate that we were eighth out of 87 counties. Um we were 95%. So thank you. Awesome. >> Um
>> yeah, that's all I got. >> Oh yeah, I have a few but I'll go fast. I got three minutes. be fine. >> Not really because we have an appointment. >> Well, that's okay. So, uh, rack committee, I went for Erica and Phil covered everything pretty good in there.
Uh, I also had a DAC meeting. Um, that's we we talked about this a little before the swing set grant that we that the DAC got that we supported. Um, they're checking out what we can do with that, where they're going to put stuff there. We're what kind of swings we're going to
get. But it's going to be more kind of a I don't want to say a playground, but an adult activity area with the with the ADA swings. So, it's gonna it's going to be pretty cool, I think. Um, but they just finished union negotiations yesterday. So, they have a tenative agreement. So,
that's cool. Um, and one thing that they are also looking at at the DAC is to train all of the staff in CPR. So, that's I think that's a good thing. And we're also uh we're having one of our board members try to follow around the managers for probably about a month
or so just so that we because we need to eventually hire an executive director. So we're trying to figure out what exactly do we need as for an executive director and how we're going to do it. So I we're going to do this we we have gone through two now in the last few years and it and and we need to we need
to make sure we get the right person. So I think it'll be it'll be good. I also had the West Central Economic Development Board. I'll just pick the one thing that was interesting in that in that uh um meeting is is uh Anthony
I got this right. Schaenhauser is is works works for the Minnesota Department of Deed which is the uh Department of Employment Economic Development and he did an AI study. He's an analyst for them. So he's he's likes all that stuff. >> Likes the data.
>> Yes. And anyway, so in our district, which is district 4, which is the same as our our EMC district, uh we have basically what AI will affect will affect uh admin, clerical, customer service, transportation, software
development. It also will affect agriculture and manufacturing, but not right now. It's it's very limited in that. I mean, obviously there's AI stuff in there, but as far as as continuing to to get to the point where AI runs runs the whole manufacturing, agriculture is
is far away. So, Becker County, because we are mostly manufacturing and agriculture, we are the second lowest in our district or in our in in district 4 as AI affecting our county development basically. Anyway,
interesting question. Uh why are colleges seeing less people going to college? What is the number one reason >> people are getting dumber? >> Costume. >> Cost cost is ineffective. >> Make more money. >> Make more make more money. Just like
getting a two-year degree or or going right to work. Those are all part of it. The number one reason is is we have less 18 year olds that live in Minnesota. >> Population demographics. Yeah. That's the number one reason. But the other ones are affected, too. All right. I had
a fair board meeting last night. Um, >> when did we start doing these quizzes? >> Well, Phil started >> up with your own. >> Now you guys are taking up my time. Come on. Okay. So, we had they had their annual uh meeting last night, which annual egg society meeting. Anyway, they elected new officers or the same
officers actually, and then they elect had two new members. Uh, so Ryan Swanson is going to be a member of the fair board and so and Mike, who was a past member, is going to become a member again. um they uh were pleased with the way the fair went this year considering they had
to compete with the East Ottertale Fair in Purum. So, but they also are going to in the in the next meetings to come, they're going to work on making the fair better. Um especially the derbies and the and what they can do to do some of these other improvements. So,
>> Mr. Chair, did they come down did they come up with the what were the numbers? What were the >> So, they from last year. So they they with with all of the stuff they spent uh they bought those new bleachers those they spent $104,000 on new bleachers and
they uh so basically the fair with all of that they spent on the it was a negative $45,000 but actually not because >> capital expense >> they had a capital expense. Correct. So so they were they were pleased like basically the rodeo broke even. Um and
that's what they want. they if they they want everything that they don't want to lose money on it. So they they did okay. The the attendance was down especially for the derbies. Um >> how much >> what is normal? I mean I have no clue normal attendance. >> Uh that we talked about that at the
previous meeting. What was that? >> No, I don't think we talked about attend like I don't know that they they said any numbers. >> I don't think they had >> I think they just said attendance was down. I don't know that they keep track of numbers. >> Yeah. All right. They know what's down. They must know what the attendance
>> Well, I mean, I think you sometimes, you know, just >> Yeah. >> by sales of everything and everything else. So, I'm I'm not sure how they came up with, >> but I'll find out. And then Travis Travis is going to come in soon and give us a report on the fair. I talked to him
about that last night. So, >> all right. The next meeting I had last I had this yesterday also was Dancing Sky. >> Um, I'll just go really quick. Um the nutrition services incorporated which is the company that does most of their meals um obviously the price of food has
g going gone up right. Yeah. So they have they're coming up with ways where they can cut costs maybe get more donations. They're going to expand their grant writing to try to get more funding. Um they're not they just don't want they they don't want to raise the
prices yet. So they want to find other ways they can generate more revenue. They're also going to try to reach out to Head Starts and and more adult centers to help, you know, generate revenue to create, you know, meals for them. They also had a pilot program they
did this year. Um, it's a waiver. It's a uh wait a minute, hold on. It's called the RA, it's called the wraparound services for adult protection, the wraps program. And we did do it here at at at uh Becker County. Now, it wasn't a huge large um or uh it wasn't there wasn't a
lot of participation because it was brand new, but it was also only four of the C the AAA's did this. And basically what it is is it offers immediate assistance to vulnerable adults. So, they have to be in adult protection. They have to be identified by the county. The county has
to refer them to to this. And then some some of those services be like let's say you have a hoarder house that they will and sometimes it's a process to get help for people so they can do kind of do it faster and immediate. The the whole idea is these people are identified and and
and and recommended within 60 days they want to help helps this problem. Some people might be kicked out of their house. They they have no place to live. So, they'll help them get figure this out or they got a need to get a ramp up to their wheelchair ramp up or they or whatever
they need and they maybe they maybe they ran out of money and they need a little assistance right away, but they're they're vulnerable. They're already classified or already not I don't want to say classified but already identified as a vulnerable adult. So, they're going to help them. Uh Erica covered the Department of Health. Phil covered the
Heartland Trail. Um historical society, last one. I'm almost going to make it. I'm one minute over. Dang it. Um, the butterfly odyssey is now ready to go view at the uh
museum. It's an interactive dis uh display, so you can interactively figure it's it's pretty I think it's pretty cool. I haven't I haven't looked at yet, but I'm pretty sure it's cool. Also, too, if you noticed at the at the community center and the museum, you notice those wild flowers that are in
the boulevard. They're not wild flowers anymore. They're they're bad. So, >> what does that mean? >> That mean I don't know. The city's going to figure they're weeds now. >> Like obnoxious weed. >> They're No, no, they're just they're they're not >> I think he's saying the city is not
accepting their their beneficial. >> Yes. So, the city's going to the city's going to do something about it. I don't know what they're going to do, but >> But there's a flower on them. >> No. No. They're they're all they're almost all dead, >> Mr. Chair. That's that's a >> Is there a flower on them? >> Well, they're wild. They're like if you
go out to wildflower that wild grass and stuff they have out there though. >> Don't we have to ask the bees and the butterflies if they're using them? >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. We just call everything weeds now and we spray it. >> I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do, but they're going to try something. >> And then the last thing is the
interesting thing that showed up to possibly do is is there's a Paul Bunion lumberjack show that where they do c crosscut sawing c and they have races and they axe throw they chop stuff. Anyway, they do chainsaw carving and they do log rolling. Um, it's a it's a
they usually they do like three shows a day for a two-day period and they come they'll come to your place and they'll do them like maybe they could do it at the fairgrounds or or whatever. It's so it's an option, something that that could generate some revenue for the for
the museum. >> Is the museum doing a haunted walk or ranch or anything? >> Uh, I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything. I don't know. >> Are they? Says they are. >> Why? Why do I not have that on here?
>> Crazy is doing that haunted trail also. >> That was last weekend. >> Oh, it was. >> Where are they? Where Where are they going, Megan? >> Yeah, that's okay. I think that's They're going to do a haunted house in the museum. Yes, correct. >> Gotcha. >> All right, that's all I have. I'm done.
See, that wasn't too bad. Almost >> it was n it was the longest nine minute three minute thing. All right we have let's move on. Anybody else have any more reports? All right let's move on to correspond or uh appointments. >> Yeah. So I have one appointment um for my district representative on the
planning commission district one. Um it was an unusual amount of interest. We had four people that showed interest in the the planning commission which is unusual for that. um committee. Usually the commissioners are out seeking people
to um to join. So um I have I believe Nancy Bachmann who is the Silverleaf Township Clerk um will be a great fit. So I'm recommending um her to be appointed her and her husband have a dairy farm in Frzy. Um she has a
drafting business. They were the 2018 U of M family of the farm family of the year. So anyways, that's my recommendation. Um Nancy Bachmann, do you want to do do you want to know the other three names? >> No.
>> Well, I I think this, you know, this is kind of your your decision who you're going to nominate. So that but usually now this is sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Sometime it's nice though to have a little bio um from the person that you
want to appoint. Um but um it's not necessary but it's it's kind of helpful for the rest of us to kind of get a better feel of what we're if if was that a motion that you made or >> That was a motion. Yep. For me to recommend >> Nancy Bachman. >> Nancy Bachmann. >> You want to make a motion to appoint?
>> Yes. >> Second. >> Okay. So we have a motion and a second to appoint Nancy Bachmann to the planning and zoning commission. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right.
Mary, would you come up and present the tobacco license? Good morning, commissioners. I have received an application after the packet had gone out for Wildflower Golf Course Lake Ununis Township.
These tobacco licenses run from October 31st through November of 2026. >> You have a resolution number >> not for tobacco. >> Okay. >> I have a resol Well, we'll do this one first. >> Motion to approve the renewal of the
wildlife wildflower tobacco license. >> So, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Wildflower Golf Course. >> Yeah, we have a motion by Barry, second by Phil. Do we have any more discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries.
>> Okay. I just want to clarify that on the license list, it did include resolution 10252B, Humane Society of the Lakes for a premise permit at Forest Hills 19 Hole in Ottaban Township. >> Yep.
>> Yep. That was a question. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's not on the agenda, huh? >> It's not on the agenda. >> It was. Yeah. It's in the consent agenda. >> It's in the consent. >> Okay. >> It's in the packet. >> It's in here. It's >> Yes, I had it, but on the agenda. It's
The resolution isn't listed separately. It just says >> Yep. 10252B Humane Society of Forest Hills. >> I have the wrong agenda. >> Thanks, Mary. All right. Carrie, should we Can we go right? >> You want to go to >> Yes, let's go. Yep. Let's go right with
uh the Megan Eastman if you could come up and present your local improvement program. Thank you. Just state your name and who you are and why you're here. >> All right. Good morning. >> Good morning. >> My name is Megan Yman. I am the clerk for the city of Ottoan and I have with
me here John. >> Yep. John Pana more engineering. >> So we are here to ask commissioners to sign a letter of support for the local road improvement program. We have a couple streets in Ottaban that we are seeking some grant funding for and I'll
let John kind of tell you about it. >> Yeah, sure. So, um, a few years ago the city of Ottoman also applied for this LRIP program. It's, uh, Third Street, which is directly east of the elementary school in Ottaban. Um, it connects to
two county roadways ultimately. um County Road 144, which is Falcon Street, south of the school, and then it wraps up around by Team Industries, Clover Street back into County Road U 13. Um
when the school um did their remodeling a few years ago, that street got beat up pretty bad back there. Um it's a high traffic road for Otaban because of the school and also there's a park. they put some money into a park just east of the
school there. So, um we feel this is a very good project, especially for a small community that fits this grant program. Um ultimately, the city's going to need the county's support and to be a sponsor if they're successful. So, at a
future meeting, if you guys are, you know, on board here, um, we would present the resolution, get it through Jim Olsen just to make sure everybody's on board to be a sponsor for this program because the city of Ottoman cannot, you know, administer these funds on their own since they're not a state
aid community. So, um, they'll be looking for the full amount. Uh, they can apply for up to a million and a half dollars. um anything over that amount. The city's we're working on funding packages to cover their
overages. Um we're in a good position. We'd also be looking to replace the utilities under that street at that same time. So it'd be a big benefit to that community to get this project done. So >> um just a question, Jim. Um I know in
what 28 we are planning to do 144 paving 144. Is that correct? the gravel. >> Yeah. So, I'm just curious if the timing would work. It might be a good project to coingle so you get better better uh pricing on it too if if that if the not
if everything works right on it. But um so yeah, we're in 27 I think we are looking at doing a grading on kind of some prep work for that pavement on 144 and then in 28 do the paving on it. So
that be that'll be a nice benefit for autumn and nice benefit for me to go to the landfill also >> nice benefit that wants to go around this town in the summertime and want it's good it would be a big benefit to have that >> road done.
>> What did you have? >> So do we do we need a a motion and to approve the support letter or what what are you looking for? Yes, >> Richard, that's your district. You want to >> Is that Richard? Make a motion to approve that support letter. >> All right. So, we have a motion by Richard. Do we have a second? >> Second.
>> Second by Phil. Uh, any discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries. Thank you for coming. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Just just for a point of clarification. Um, we can certainly sign off on this letter and then do you want us to get
the letter to you? >> Um, that would be great. Yeah. And I can get it on to John. We have we're collecting them from community from >> I assume there was a you were collecting from Okay. Yes. Just >> I think you know I just just to give to be fair I think we are supporting I don't know if it's going to be the same year but we are going to be supporting
other projects with applying for the same monies. Is that correct Jim? >> We anticipate >> this this letter probably goes a little bit above which is good but we will have to provide a resolution of support as a sponsor. >> Yeah. Okay. But I think we're SP we will
be re we will be supporting other projects. >> I think there are a few other ones. >> Um I think one of them is maybe the township of Ottoan is looking at um improving a road and then we were looking at swapping that road uh by Forest Hills. >> Yep.
>> Um >> yeah, the the city's really just looking to get um part of the application process are letters of support on top of just the typical required application. So going a little bit above and beyond asking you guys, asking state reps,
>> businesses. >> I just wanted to make sure that you know, you know, there are there are numerous ones out that we do. >> It's not you're not exclusive. There's it's open to small towns and townships. >> We do support other ones, but this is a a very good project. So hopefully you're successful. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> All right, Carrie, let's move on with your stuff. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, you have in your packet a resolution with regards to the homeless prevention aid that our county has received. And just a little bit of background on this
particular aid just for um just for uh just for your information. Um this aid was created by the legislature um in 2021. So, we have received funding and we went through a process with a
committee and the the initial um awarded amounts or the initial year was awarded since I've been here to Mahubi and the purpose of this local homeless prevention aid is to target minor children that are homeless andor
families. So um the recommendation and basically through the committee was to award the next two years of funding which is 24 and 25 the allocation that our county has received to Mohubi. We did put out an RFP last uh this summer
asking again to do our due diligence to see if there was any other um agencies that could benefit from this funding and there was no other response other than Mahoopi. So um with that also I had asked Mahubi to be here just to give
some information about their work and that they do they weren't able to attend today. So I just wanted to briefly give you some of their information. Um they talked about um in Detroit Lakes that they had um served 60 within Detroit
Lakes 60 families. Lake Bark Lake Park was 21. Frzy district, this is homeless children within the district. Uh the school districts Freze was four, Ogama was three, and the total for Becker County was roughly 88.
Um so they are doing very good work. One um one stat that really stuck out to me when I spoke to them was I was really asking the question because their programming really is to um do case management services with with the
family, not just you know put them in housing and walk walk away and you know good luck to them but really doing the support services. So I really wanted to know the success of that and I I was quite impressed actually. Um what they talked about is there was a service
period of measurement from September of 24 to September of 25 and there was 132 total served in Becker County. And the retention rate of those individuals that they assisted in different programming
to get stable housing after through that um year of measurement 97% maintained housing. So I thought that was pretty astounding. Um so what they're doing is working. So the recommendation from the committee >> be juvenile set or the family
>> it the criteria here would be um well she said individuals so >> I mean it's it's a little I mean >> it is confused though Allan I'm just going off her information J >> but numbers are difficult to understand when you don't know if it is that 97% just the so that the youth have minors
have >> I think they're measuring by youth and and that's the criteria because you have to have a minor that's attending um public or not public school but high school. >> Yeah, high school through high school. >> And just if if everyone remembers, I think it was just about a year ago now
that they expanded the ter the definition of homelessness for you. So they >> Oh, that's been more than a year ago. >> Has it been a while? >> It's been a while ago. >> So they've been I mean if you are >> not living with a biological parent, you're considered homeless. >> Yes. Even if you're living with >> It's disingenuous to say that.
>> Yeah, it is. I mean that it's a choice in some cases. >> I don't think it's not a biological parent. you don't have stable housing like you're couch hopping or you're I mean living with grandma and grandpa you are technically still considered homeless >> correct but if you go and stay with
>> much different than somebody living in their car right >> yes yes >> but I mean the definition expanded so if you're a minor and you go and live somewhere else for a week and then move back with your parents you're homeless still homeless >> for that year so >> well and when we talk about definitions
when I go back and look at the definitions that are uh targeting with this funding. It's living in overcrowded conditions in their current housing, paying more than 50% of their income for rent, um lacking a fixed regular and adequate nighttime residence. So, you
know, wondering where you're going to go for the next night, the instability of that. So, >> and and this funding is really to prevent homelessness. So, it's it's what can the agency do to not just find them housing, but also to keep them in the
housing that they have? I think it's a good project and a good fund and I think Muhubyaba recognizes the the ones that need it more and the ones that you know there are situations that are more extreme and situations that are less and I'm sure they identify that. >> And Mahubi has really great like they
take a whole family approach and they really try to help the family to move upward, >> right? not just maintain. They want to to help them to do whatever they can do to to move upward higher paying jobs or whatever so that they >> I mean I I just wanted to point out that those numbers I mean those numbers are
vague. Those homeless minors are >> that's scary. It is scary. >> But knowing that some of those are still pretty some of them are in pretty stable places still. Um but some of them are not. I mean it's >> stable homes maybe not stable environments,
>> right? So, it's it's a it's a serious problem and and just think what that affect how that affects those students in school. >> You know, >> if you you wonder why there's, you know, some kids have issues and >> when they're more worried about where they're going to sleep or where they're
going to eat, it's it's a little more concerning than if they're going to get a C or a D on the test, you know. So, um, it it's it's a significant problem and and you know, it would be nice to have Mahubuyawa here sometime to give a little bit more detail because I I think
their work is really important. I mean, >> I can ask them. >> I mean, I and I did ask them and they were trying to get here and then they were had other commitments that came up, you know, fairly quickly here. So, >> I I would agree. I think >> I would like to say tell them thank you and for the work that they do because
it's a >> it's much needed. So, >> that being said, I'll make a motion to approve resolution 10252C. >> All right. So, we have a motion to approve 2C by Erica. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Barry. Do we have any more
discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Motion carries. >> I carry. >> Um I was asked just to bring forward the request by the EDA. Um they a on on
behalf of the Tower Road Industrial Park expansion here in Detroit Lakes. Cody was asked to write a letter of support for that and there will be applying for funding. So I just wanted to make ref I don't know if there's questions. I just said I would bring that up in my report
and I do have a copy of the letter if you'd like to see it. >> Is that in our packet Carrie? >> It is. It wasn't. I got it after. >> So that's just a letter. Becker County EDA supporting the Detroit Lakes Development Authority. >> Yes. >> Do you want a motion?
>> I don't. I just I was just bringing it for information. Um, Commissioner Hansen and I started our leading with uh with purpose uh through the state and that training and we're finding that it's a lot of hours and uh a lot of homework. Um but it will
be good short-lived and we'll uh hopefully come away better leaders >> yesterday. >> It did. The kickup was yesterday. >> Um there starting this week there's also the state and tribal relations training that will begin up in Manomomen and uh
Commissioner Hansen will be attending as well as Steve Skoo and Jim Olsen on behalf of Becker County. A reminder that we have the district meeting in Fergus Falls. I believe it's October 30th, Halloween >> 8 to noon.
>> Yep. And I'm uh started to plan and I had reached out to Jim Olsson with regards to our road tour November 5th, which you all are aware and I'll put together I believe that's on an off week or it's not on a board day. So, >> so yes, so I will put together some
times at work and you'll hear later about some buses that we have down. So, we'll have to talk about what our transportation mode might be. So, um, the last item that I have is the resolution 2A. Um, I'd asked our veteran
services to come and speak about this, but they were in mandatory training and they really wanted this to to move forward um because they'd like to have it longer for a longer period of time and and through veteran services. So if you recall, we have participated in this in
the past and the green lights represent our uh people, our individuals that have served in the military and our appreciation for what they have done uh for all of us. So I would request um a motion to approve uh 2A.
>> So >> I move to approve resolution 10252A. >> So we have a motion by Phil. Do we have a second? Second by Barry. Do we have any discussion? I just want to read the resolve just so people understand that with designation as a green light for Veterans County, Becker County, Hubbride
declares from October 24th through November 24th, 2025 a time to salute and honor the surface the service and sacrifices for our men and women in uniform transitioning from active service. Therefore, be it further. Um,
so you'll see green lights, >> right? And so so when people see green lights that's what they're for. So >> yep. So we have them any more discussion? Okay. So all in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Motion carries. >> All right. Let's move on to Judy it. Good morning. >> Morning, Judy. >> Morning, Judy. >> Um, I'm bringing forth two things today. One is for the servers that we've talked about a couple of times. Um, we
currently have that scheduled for funding in the special general fund. This is to replace what really run the majority of our of our software products here. It runs IFS. that runs pretty much everything that that people use except
for the uh Microsoft stuff which runs in a cloud. Uh that's why we were not affected by the uh Amazon outage yesterday because all of our stuff runs here. So it runs our our our website and everything else. And uh uh
our initial uh estimate was going to be $100,000. It's coming in at 84128 and that includes for servers and for some uh help to to get this all installed. Are there any questions? >> What's the life expectancy of these
servers? >> About six years between five and six years. We're at a little more than six years right now. >> Okay. And it and it was came in cheaper. So um I'll make a motion to approve >> to approve the >> the server >> server for 84,1 >> 128.
>> I'll second it. So, we have a motion by Barry, a second by uh Phil. Do we have any more discussion? >> Um, yes, Mr. Chair. Judy, so you said this this should last for about six years. >> Do we have a capital fund? Do you have a cap are you preparing for six years from
now? >> Um, I I have a I would say yes. I have a five-year plan for it and kind of our expenditures on some of this larger things like um something that I think I've mentioned that we budgeted for for next year would be to do something with
what's called our Gallagher system which has to do with our our badging system. We have to do we have to do stuff every so often. And so I have a what what I would call I've earmarked certain funds for every year and I try to make it about the same every year with this particular thing uh because it's so much
I just we use special general because I hadn't been here to kind of make sure we had enough money to to do this per year. So I I'm trying to do that and I'm happy to share that with you Phil anytime you'd like to see it. >> Okay. >> Yep. So we have a motion and a second. Any more discussion? Okay. All in favor
signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries. All right, Judy. Next item. >> The next item is um we've had two instances where the air conditioner in the uh data room has uh failed. That's our main air conditioner. And that and when that fails, it makes and that's in
the last 14 months. When that main data data system or the main gosh, having trouble today. When the air conditioner in the main data room fails, uh what happens automatically? Equipment shuts off when it gets too hot. Uh so what
happens is we have because nobody's here during that period of time we have systems that are down. Uh so th this for 14,000 about 14,966 I would like to put in a second air
conditioner in the data room. And so they both run at the same time. So if one fails the other one would just automatically take over. And with the with the um we're we're also planning to put in a monitor so that we would at least have somebody that would get paged
um so that we would at least know that one of them is is down so it could be resolved the next day. Any questions on that? And this would also come out of special general funding um which then puts our >> So she had a cost savings that she just spent. >> So So that's right. That's right. Correct. So, all right. So, for special
general, we would be at $99,94. >> I think I think Judy showed us that with the with if when they go if in the last two instances when they go down, the amount of hours that are lost for workers quickly quickly um overshadows.
I I think what I told you is and I just I picked a 100 people because I felt that we were probably with all the people using uh PCs that the 100 people for and I uh it was an estimate of four hours per incident. That's eight hours. So if you do a 100 people at just $20 an
hour, uh it's a $16,000 bill for the two times we've done it that that we've just been non-productive for those periods of times. I believe that managers and and department heads and supervisors have their people doing things that you don't have to do with computers like filing
and that kind of stuff. But I still think it impacts our work like DMV and and all those kinds of things. >> Well, I and I I would assume too though I mean the equipment shuts off automatically when it gets hot, but you I mean even at that point you don't want it
>> No. I mean anyone nobody wants to get it to a point where it's automatically shutting off because I think you're starting to do damage to the >> equipment. I would say I would agree with that. >> I mean you're shortening the life of that. >> Absolutely. >> Um we did suggest opening a winter window in winter time but um because this run I mean this it's they throw off
so much heat that >> a lot of heat >> and no no way to utilize that or capture that other than cool it down. So, do we have a motion to approve the expenditure through the special general fund for the air conditioning unit for $14,966?
>> So, moved. >> All right. So, motion by Barry. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Erica. Do we have any more discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries. So, there's So, she saved six bucks. >> Thanks, Judy.
>> Thanks, Judy. >> Better next. We'll get a coffee. So long. >> All right. So, let's go move on to Denise and human services. >> Right on schedule. Look at that. I know. To the minute. >> To the minute. >> This doesn't happen very often. >> Never.
>> Yeah. If you guys want to come up too, please. I not that I didn't introduce you, but >> Hey, Amanda, I do have a question that doesn't relate to anything you're talking about. Who who who I couldn't remember the name of when we at the partnership for health we approved you
and who else is the the co-administrator intermory >> Rory >> Rory Bill >> Rory Bill okay >> there see you got my question >> all right go ahead Denise >> all right the first item we have for you is a public health donation um the
public health has uh private donation funds that they'd like to donate to the Becker County food pantry in the amount of $10,000 What is a private? Explain that a little bit. >> Private um >> a private donation that's coming through >> from someone and they just donated
through >> donated to um >> it's not taxpayer money >> public health. Correct. >> Okay. >> It is not. >> Motion to approve. >> So motion by Barry, second by Phil. Do we have any more discussion? All right. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries.
>> All right. >> Mr. Chair, if it's all right, I'd like to um present number three first. because I think there's going to be a little bit more discussion in the number two. So, it's the Liberty University affiliation agreement and it um allows us to have an M's level intern.
>> Um this intern would be starting in January, January 19th through August 22nd. Um and there is one change that I wanted to report to you. Um the p the um information that you have in the packet, there's one change to the um agreement
and that's number 15. Um it um >> let me get to it here. >> It's on page 24 >> with the laws of commonwealth >> governing law. Yep. It was did say the commonwealth of Virginia. Um we through
um county attorney, sorry. Um he approved it and asked if we couldn't list that as the state of Minnesota would be the governing law. and they agreed to that change. So, we are making that change. Um, so with your approval, um, it would be with the state of
Minnesota governing that agreement. >> I'll move to approve that agreement. >> Okay. With the change from >> with the change from with Minnesota law from Virginia law, South Liberty University. >> So, we have a motion by Phil and a second by Erica. Do we have any more discussion?
>> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries. >> All right. Denise, we'll go back to number 16. >> One last item we have for you is the UKare Medicica care coordination recommendation. Um I have Emma Hortman here, um adult services supervisor, and
Amanda Kumbala, public health supervisor. Um this involves both of their units and together um with them and their staff, they came up with a there was a problem that we found a solution for. So we'd like to tell you about that.
We like solutions. Yeah. >> Especially when I see it saving money. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Well, good morning. Um so, as Denise said, um you have a you have a two-page document. Um we spent quite a bit of time really kind of
looking at and and keeping a close tab on the upcoming changes, not only with um our health plans that we provide care coordination for. in adult services. My staff does the over 65 care coordination for individuals on UKare Medicica and
Bluec Cross Blue Shield. And this does not impact Blue Cross Blue Shield and Amanda >> and we have SMBC. So we have under 65 disabled population on UKare and Medicica >> in public health.
>> Yeah. So then um we we had a we kind of outlined some legislative and contract changes in the next section. Um Amanda and I are both very involved in the disability services, men choices, um a lot of other programs. Um and there were
a some significant changes coming in 2026 for a lot of those programs. If we'll remember, there was a a proposal to cost shift um a bunch of money to the counties under disability waivers. So we were watching that and then this care coordination stuff started to come to
light and a lot of changes um came for 2026 specifically for ukare which is the larger you'll see the membership identified and we identify that all together. So we currently have approximately 115 Medicica members that
we serve and about 392 UKARE members. The projected numbers starting in 2026, you'll see go to 85 and 280. And both of those are projected to go lower because of the product changes um that will that
will go in in 2026. >> And UKare also has enrollments frozen for two two of the products that we have in public health or SMBC. >> Right? So if individuals go off, they don't do their paperwork, they will not be able to go back on. So that's where
that kind of knowing that the numbers are going to go down. So then we took and looked at the staffing and cost projections for 2026. It's it's currently 4 and a half FTE across both of our units. We outlined that. We outlined the 2025 um year-to-ate um
revenue for both plans. And then we outlined the 2026 budgeted revenue that we did before all of the UKare and Medicica changes rolled out. Um then the changes rolled out. So, we've updated our new projected 2026 care coordination
revenue. You'll see that um number there at about 506399. Um the projected 2026 cost for those 4.5 FTE leaves us at a deficit um of about 79,000 and potentially even more than
that to continue to do care coordination. Um we note that care coordination is not a mandated service. It's something that Becker County has done for a long time and most of our neighboring counties do it as well, but the the plans also provide care
coordination um locally. Um Essentia Health does some care coordination. So, we think it's important to note that um these individuals will continue to have care coordination. It just wouldn't be done through human services. Um
starting in 2026, it is just no longer profitable for us to do. and the mandated um the increase in all the mandated services um has grown and will grow even more in 2026.
Page two, we start talking about unmet needs and that's where we look at kind of all across both of our units with the men choices and the disability waiverss. Um we outline some of those changes that are that are coming. Um,
do you want any details on those changes or are you pretty much >> Are the men choice assessment changes affected? Are those new for 2026? >> Yes. Um, there yeah, there's a couple of them that will go into the the 20-day timeline for men choices. Um, so men
choices is the assessment that individuals use to access basically any service, whether you're elderly or you're um a child. If you're looking for PCA services, which is now a a different title, um funding for nursing homes, um
disability waiver services to stay in your home, it's really a universal tool and we do lots of those and that those are mandated. Um we are mandated to be out there within 20 days to start that um assessment. Um
that's almost impossible to to reach. Um and many many counties have extensive weight lists. Um we do a pretty good job in there. But the some of the changes that are coming are um more around
there will be a a dashboard that will be posted that will identify each county how many referrals you've had, how many assess how many were accepted for assessment, how many times were we out of compliance within the 20 days. Um so
that will be posted a couple times a year on a little report card for us. Um, we've got an increase in we're anticipating uh about a 30% increase in men choices because um we get those referrals not just for
social service programs. There are a lot of people that receive assessments who end up they're not eligible for our funding, but through the assessment, they receive referrals to maybe some programs that they can um private pay that they maybe didn't know about. or
families can become educated on through the assessment for their loved one, especially the elderly um that may be looking at nursing homes in the future, kind of what to expect and when to do the different steps cuz it's very complicated. Um
there is some talk, this is not fully implemented yet, but potentially a fine to the counties for every day that you're out of compliance. again that that has not fully implemented but it is it is on the table a $250 a day fine.
Um what other >> the increased oversight to the disability waivers. >> Yeah, that that is a big one. Um number two, the increase oversight. So that 5% cost share that was um originally
proposed to shift to the counties for all individuals on disability waiverss that are in group homes or assisted livingings. So your under your 55 and under population. We had done an estimate on that when that proposal first came out and for Becker County
alone based on our numbers right now that would have been about $900,000. um that was that was avoided during this legislative session, but there is significant oversight put on human services to attempt to decrease the
growth of the disability waiver. So, our case managers and us as supervisors, we're going to have to be heavily involved in in approving service agreements, um making sure that providers are are really doing what they're saying that they're doing. um
kind of additional partners in ensuring there is um a reduction in fraud and um so we'll have to do those things. Um >> your protection >> adult protection referrals um those are have have gone up significantly. There's
also some um new things there performance measures um mandated plans just additional work there. Um you want to talk a little bit about the PCA to CFSS transition? That's pretty significant in timing.
>> Yes. So um previously when somebody went on a state plan just for PCA personal care assistance services, we completed the assessment and said you're eligible for state plan and we didn't have to do
anything after that. They were just on state plan PCA services. that has now changed to CFSS, community first services and supports. So now we have to do the assessment and case manage them
and get they make sure they get their consultation service and get an approved plan and approve I mean make follow up to make sure that consultation service is done. Um and if if it's not done within six months, we are allowed to
expand extend it one more time for six month period. But we we have about 95 of those cases now that we have to case manage. So um on our case managers, they have their waiver clients plus these
CFSS clients that we're managing. >> So Mr. chair. So, we talk about unfunded mandates, them not funding the work that our employees have to do. Here's a shift of the state's not going to do it anymore. The
that's a shift we don't talk about very much. We talk about the money. You're having to do the work that was normally done by the state. So, that's I think one of the first times I've heard that as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, that's been part of the shift. I
mean that's what we >> Well, I was always thinking financial shift. >> Work work. >> It's both. >> Yeah. I mean this I I will say in you know nearly 30 years this is I would say this is one of the biggest shifts of multiple responsibilities
across multiple programs at the same time. I mean it's it's it's big this year um or will be which was also kind of like how are we going to do all this work? You know we just we we knew there there's just no way. Um so then we move on and we take a peek at the proposed
reassignment. We we identify some what would we do with those four and a half FTE if we did not do care coordination. So we outlined, we took those needs and then we kind of moved that into the next section and we break down the different you know areas where where people would
go and the estimated increased revenue by being able to do a better job and do all the requirements because that's that is all funded. Um we then come with an estimated um revenue of 785,000.
Um, and if we take the cost of those staff, this proposal brings us to about a $200,000 surplus as opposed to the $80,000 deficit. So our recommendation at this point
would be to end our care coordination contracts with UKare and Medicica and re realign work duties for those four and a half FTE um to meet our unmet mandated service requirements.
And this this for as far as the human services budget for 2026, it doesn't increase it. It actually decreases it by about 56 57,000. >> Mhm. >> Yeah.
>> Does anybody have any more questions for >> I don't. >> Mr. share. So I I don't understand a lot of what you guys were talking about the acronyms and stuff, but so it says in here 125 days. You're given 125 days
notice. So who is going to be we're we're cutting ties with these organizations. Who are the organizations we're going to go with or are we going to do that ourselves or how is that work in 125 days? So, we would just no longer be doing care
coordination. Um, those plans are still here in the county. They're not leaving as a as a medical provider. >> It will just be somebody else will be doing the care coordination >> after we're done with our contractual
obligation, the 125day notice. In our 125day period, we may look at what like in public health as we have enrollments, some of them that are froze right now. We might and one of the products is just not going to be offered anymore. We
might see some of that work dwindle down. So, we could start shifting >> one of our FTEEs into one of the >> So, who is going to be doing the work in 125 days? If we are not going to be doing the work, >> we'll have to do it during the 125 days. Yeah. >> After that. >> Yeah. After that,
>> it'll, like I said, it'll either be you care itself. >> See, they were paying us to do it, >> right? Or medical will do it themselves. The revenues went down, so we're going to be losing money doing it. So, we're not going to do it. So, they have to they'll do it themselves. >> They'll do it themselves or they enter into additional contracts like UKAR has
an RFP out right now. Um, so a number of of different entities applied to um enter into contracts. Um, I haven't heard for sure. You know, Essentia does, you know, Essentia does quite a bit of care coordination. Um,
>> well, I'm sure nobody nobody likes change. So, this will this will affect some people negatively, I'm sure. Um, >> it is difficult. >> They will have to alter how they're >> who they're seeing and how they're services. >> But they'll still get the services though. >> Yeah. But, you know,
>> that's the key thing. >> And it and it is a tough decision. I mean, at the end of the day, I I would advocate, and I know Amanda would too, our care coordinators do an amazing job. Do Do you get a better service potentially having somebody right here locally versus somebody down in the
metro helping you over the telephone? Likely. But it it it just has really gotten to the point where um somebody else can do that work, somebody else can't do the other mandated work that that we need to do.
So in these two two agreements to terminate, do we have a how are we transitioning the employees? I mean is that is that automatic? Are we or I mean are we doing that internally and we don't have to do any adjustments
or >> reassignment of duties? >> Yeah, there it would be the same. >> So we don't have to put it out for >> No, correct. They're all social workers and nurses. are at the same their their job duties will just be >> so their trans their internal transition will
>> yes >> be in the next 125 days. >> Yes. >> Okay. I just you know you want to make sure they're taken care of too. >> Can we do these resolutions at the same time? >> Um I would think you'd want to do them separately >> cuz they got different
>> They're two separate. >> Do we have a motion to approve resolution 2 I? >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2 I. >> I'll second. Second by or motion by Erica, second by Phil. Do we have any discussion on two I? All right. All in favor signify by saying I. I.
>> All right. Motion carries. Now, do we have a motion for resolution 2J? >> Some moved. >> Second. >> Erica and Phil. Do we have any discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Motion carries. >> Thank you. Thank you for all your hard
work and making it work. Yes. >> Awesome. >> All right. Let's go move on to human resour. >> Mr. Chair, one thing you you mentioned Rory Beal at the beginning. What What is I know him. What is he doing? >> The health promotions director in Klay County. >> Oh, did not know that.
>> County public health. >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> No, no wheel. No wheels today. Nope. Nope. I'm walking. So, >> we're working through it. >> No wheel. Uh the one item that I have in front of you today is the memorandum of
agreement for the ASME union. This is the last union to um sign the MOA for the 50/50 split of premiums for uh PFML that goes into effect 1 of 26. >> Motion to approve. Accept. >> All right. We have a motion by Barry to
approve the ASV contract. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Erica. Do we have any discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I I motion carries. >> Thank you. >> All right, we're going to take a fivem minute break. >> It's not on the agenda. >> I know, but I just added it.
>> You can do that, Mr. >> Cuz I have >> no break for you. I have to do something >> some stuff. Let's re let's uh come back to our meeting. Let's start go with Jim. Jim is ready to go. So, >> all right. Thank you, commissioners. Uh we have three contracts we're seeking
final uh payment and acceptance on. Uh the first project is our milled rumble strip project with all state uh pavement. uh they've completed that their work satisfactoryily and we're recommending payment final payment in the amount of $2,688.99.
>> I really question that dollar amount that's very low. Why I mean that final payment why is that so low? >> Uh prices have come down significantly. Um >> isn't it usually 10%. The final payment >> thought it was five
>> uh 5% usually. >> Yep. And I don't know, maybe that's even lower if the contract's done like on the next one. Um sometimes we reduce it to 2 and a.5% you know if it carries over a year and we've accepted their work but
uh for $45,000 uh I guess I don't know that's isn't that 5%. >> Yeah, that's about 2,000. Yeah, >> that's fine. What what how did the engineers estimate get to be so far off on these? >> Mr. Chair, I asked this question. >> I mean that's that's yesterday and it
was a good off but I mean >> 3 years ago >> well it these federal contracts when we apply and provider estimates take a long time to get approved or delivered or you know get through the federal system. So
um probably three years ago the prices were this high but there become more contractors and they've bought they've purchased the equipment now to do these uh rumble stripes so it's more competitive. >> Yeah. But I'm looking at the rest of them too.
But um I anyway I just I just found it highly unusual. The um engineers estimate was on these three contracts was significantly higher than the actual cost which was good because we got a better deal than what we were thinking.
But um if the cost would have been actual close to engineer's estimate, I don't think we could afforded to do it looking at our at our 5-year plan. >> Mhm. >> So, but >> that's that's my question. I'll I'll make a motion to approve.
>> Make 2D >> motion by approved by Barry for 2D. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Phil. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. All right. Motion carries. >> All right. Jim, >> a second contract under resol resolution
2F is a project um on County Road 34 with Drew's Engineering. This was the grading portion of the work that was performed two years ago. Um that work has been was completed and satisfactory and we're requesting final payment amount of
$76,278. >> Mr. Chair, Jim, I I didn't ask this the other day. What? You said two years. Why why is this two years late or >> we have to wait for the contractor to submit their gravel taxes. Sometimes
there's restoration work that they need to do on private property where they've you know obtained gravel and that it's um the work was completed late in 202 or whatever and it's it's just taken
that long. It depends upon how quickly the contractor responds and gets all their paperwork put together. >> Wasn't this the project also that we had to delay a year because of some >> lady slippers or bats or something? I
know that's like two very different things. >> Lady slippers is bats. endangered spec species or something that we had to >> it it takes a while but yeah we >> they have to do the clearing during uh for the bats
>> you know like after you know in November and over the winter and that has to be completed before >> um I think it's like April 15th or something like that. Yeah. >> Motion to approve 2F. >> All right. So a motion by Barry for 2F. Do we have a second? >> I'll second.
>> Second by Erica. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Motion carries. All right. >> That was for F. >> Two F, >> not I. >> It's F. That one was F. This is F. And uh >> nice try.
Go ahead. Sorry, Jim. >> Our third and final contract um is with um RL Larson. This is County Road 30 in the city of Freay Z. um sent from the bridge over to uh trunk highway 87. Uh
this too was completed in 2023. Um at the end of the year we did have a carryover of some um work. They had to do a patch because there was some failing pavement. So they completed that um
in uh they completed that early this year. I guess it was. So it was last year's project. I apologize. Yep. But anyways, we're looking for final payment in the amount of $36,292. >> Motion to approve 2e. >> So we have a motion by Barry to approve
2e. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Phil. Any discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Motion carries. Thanks, Jim. >> Yep. Uh, >> anybody have a question for Jim? All
right, Kevin for transit. >> Thanks, Jim. >> Thank you. Morning. >> Morning. >> I just have one item. Uh resolution 2G. It's requesting to get a engine replaced on the 2022 transit bus. The estimate is
between 57 and 6,000. Um that's a pretty solid estimate. >> Pretty reasonable. >> Is Ford is paying half? 60% of it. >> 50%. They're paying cheap. that that's just our percentage. Why are they paying why are they paying? It's out of warranty. Are they It's too
>> just complaining. I mean, I've contacted the Ford Pro Group who handles these type of issues. There was a recall issued in 2024 that I feel directly caused this engine to fail. They don't call it a recall since it wasn't called a recall. Um,
they call it customer satisfaction. They won't cover the whole engine. Um, honestly, they weren't going to cover any of the engine. Um, it just took a lot of correspondence back and forth and phone calls and they agreed to pay 55%. So, >> well, good job. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, good job. I don't know. We should be paying for the whole thing. >> Yeah. It's got 66,000 mi on it and the warranty runs out at 60. >> 67,080 mi is what it went in at. The warranty is over at 60,000. The new >> But we were having some issues before 60,000, too. That's why we made the
point that they should >> at 45,000 and some odd miles that went in for that customer service issue where they dealt with it. But, you know, there again, I felt at 45,000 miles, the damage was >> done, >> 75 80% done. >> Mhm.
>> But Ford doesn't see it that way. And I'm, you know, I mentioned maybe we need to go out on the route of hiring attorney and they just closed the case and said we're done. There's no more conversation back and forth. Well, we got got something which is
better than I mean you want you you have a chance to win it, but are we going to expend the expense to go any further and >> time and money and they got I I think Ford Motor Company probably hasn't a lawyer on staff. >> Yeah, >> maybe. >> Well, they you know, right when I when I
when I mentioned the lawyer, um I swear the lady was on the email keying me the or the the address to send my letter and where the lawyer can contact. back in Dearborn, Michigan. It was like almost instantaneous. >> Well, that's kind of my response. Once someone says they're suing or I'm like,
"Okay, yeah, >> I have no more communication." >> Mr. Chair, I'll move to approve resolution 1025 2G. >> All right. So, we have a motion by Phil. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Barry. Any more discussion? >> Uh Kevin, so uh this is the only bus
that's down right now. No, we have a transmission that we're in bus one, which is a 2015 um that we believe is going to be trash. We're replacing solenoid in it right now and and uh I don't think that's going to
solve it. So, but we're in a bind because normally the 2015 would have been replaced. uh the useful life of a bus um by the state's you know own goals are 7 years and
150,000 miles. You know obviously that's a 2015 so we're talking 10 years and it's got 184,000 miles and not and some odd. So, but the state is so far behind on replacing buses. Um,
and even to compound that now with what's going on with funding and stuff from the federal government, we kind of lost a window there, I feel, by the state to replace some of these older buses because now it's getting harder for the state to get federal money to replace buses out of their useful life.
So, you know how they're going to address this? I'm going to be on a call today. And Phil, did you get that? Uh, >> 220. Yeah, >> I'll be on it. >> That's something I'm going to bring up with them and ask, you know, how are you going to address this fact? Are we just going to keep putting all this? I mean, because this transmission is probably going to be
>> five grand, >> you know, four and a half. Time we get labor in, it's going to be over five grand. And and luckily the guys at the county shop are going to be able to do this one. Um, so we don't have to farm it out. So we'll instead of paying $185 an hour for labor, we'll pay you know
what the going rate is there is about 55. We've we've talked with Jim Joy about the funding mechanism here. We've got this meeting with the state this afternoon that we've set up just to Kevin knows his numbers really well and and can explain why these things don't work.
Kevin does a good job saves some money to buy a new bus and they don't give us federal money because they say, "Oh, you have money over here." Well, and now we don't have buses. We don't have the we don't have anything. So, um he's being you reward failure and in Kevin's case, you
He's trying to run a successful program here and they don't fund it. >> Penalized >> gets penalized. >> Penalized when you are fiscally responsible. >> All right. >> All right. So, we have a motion and a second for 2G. Do we have any more discussion? >> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Right. Motion carries. All right.
Board. >> Thanks, Kevin. >> Thank you. >> Uh Steve, let's come in. Land use and environmental services. >> Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Morning, Carrie. Hey, Peggy.
We're almost on time. So, >> I know. >> Take that bathroom break. You >> Yeah, I know. But that wasn't necessary. >> Before you got resolution 10252H is the solid waste tip schedule for 2026.
Um, it increased we increased basically tip fees to cover solid waste disposal. So, costs are going up. The one I saw that I found a little unusual is you increased it to what 7 1375. I mean, why don't we just >> I don't know. >> Some of them we're trying to do is get
them so they round to an even number. So when the clerks are processing things, it comes to an even number. So >> $13.75 is not an even number. >> Well, which one is it? >> It's uh >> I don't see a 1375. >> I don't remember if I saw a 13.
>> I can look. I looked through it and I didn't see a 13. >> I don't know. I see it both ways. I I see we're trying to keep the lowest cost we can for our >> There's a 375 >> customers. But >> the other thing that we changed was how we're >> must maybe it's 375 per tire rather.
>> Oh, for tires. >> Yeah. >> And then >> I changed how we're billing for recyclable commodities. >> 75 >> $3. So, it's going to be >> based on a stop fee plus an amount for the amount picked up. So, if they pick
up glass, for example, it costs us money to get rid of the stuff. It's still cheaper than landfilling it, but that cost, we can charge it on a per cubic yard then and and have a collection fee on top of that. So then if the customer decides to bring it in, our transfer
station staff can charge them just the charge amount per per for the volume that they're bringing in. Just makes it a lot cleaner. >> Yeah. How's the new truck running? >> Good. We just got it all stickered yesterday or two days ago. >> Okay. What now? That 2010, we're going
to get rid of that. Is that gone yet or >> It's not gone. It's still sitting there. >> Well, what's the plan for that? >> Get rid of it. >> Like just sell it as is or scrap or what? You know, it's probably getting to a point where it's just scrap because there is not much left in that. It's rusted out. Pretty tough shape.
>> All right, getting back to solid waste fee schedule. I'll move to approve resolution 10252H. Second. >> Motion by Phil. Second by Richard. Do we have any more discussion? >> Okay. All in favor favor signify by saying I. I. I. Motion carries. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. Thanks, Steve. Do we have any
more for good of the order? >> All right. Um we did say so that when we did our work session we talked about STS right so what what was our conclusion with STS >> as I understand it the conclusion was is
that we would not continue with SDS that we would be looking at moving that funding to parks >> recreation okay >> um which is in progress right now >> correct that's what I understood too was a separate issue >> correct Correct. Correct. That's what I
understood too. And we are working on a backup for Roger. >> Okay. All right. And uh last thing, wakeboats, is there something coming on that or I heard uh Erica talk a little bit. Those same people did call me and there was some discussion.
>> Yes. And so when I spoke about my discussion with the uh the three lake associations, I think probably um Commissioner Jeepson probably had similar conversations. And it's really just to provide information. So what I
had informed them is to perhaps reach out to and I think you said the same individual commissioners to provide the information and what I would expect is that they'll come back before this board in the in the future to gauge whether or not there's support from this
board to then move forward. >> Okay. They did call me. Um, I said, "Send me all the information. I've got their study for the U of M." They asked me what the other commissioners how they were going to vote, and I did not speak for any of you, and I said, "I can't even speak for myself yet."
>> Uh, but okay. So, we're in an information gathering process then, but that we do anticipate that coming back. >> We are. And just for clarification since we're on this topic, um when I spoke about this in the process before in the article, sorry Nate, an article
that came out, um there was, you know, they were talking about bringing forth, you know, their proposed ordinance, but really a lot of work needs to go into the packet the DNR requires of collection of information. And that's really what I was speaking to before
this before they actually go through and collect all of that information because it has to be submitted by the county on behalf of them. >> So I would expect that they'll come back before this board before they actually put that packet together for the DNR to
again gauge whether there's support from this board to move it forward. >> So it's got to come through this board first. >> Is this a non nontopic on our agenda? Are we ajourned? Yes, we are injured. Thank you. But you can still talk. >> Well,
>> so that will h >> you got to be careful what you talk. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That will have to come back to county. That's what I recommend. Okay. All right.