good morning everyone we will start the meeting with the pledge of allegiance i aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for
all i'm just saying agents you should put a little flag under see them that's awesome all right do we have
any adjustments to the agenda i don't have any anybody else have any all right so we've talked about this before do we want to approve the agenda if we have no changes or do we want to just do what we've always done before and approve the agenda if we have no changes i say let's just keep doing what
we doing okay motion to approve the agenda is there all right motion by Barry second by Erica any further discussion all right all in favor signify by saying I i all right motion carries all right minutes from last meeting March 4th do we have any
corrections to the minutes hand on page four where it says well page two of three I should say um where it says re reloc reallocate bonding money for 2023 for the Hartland
Trail looking at modifications i wonder if it should say looking at modification like reward it so that it makes it see sound like relocate bonding money from 2023 for the H Heartland Trail so maybe saying looking
at modifications to reallocate bonding money and then on number two same same page um the except for a change in funding will be
reviewed by the board maybe say except if there is a change in funding will be reviewed by the board yeah that was all I had does Does anybody else have any
corrections or um I just had a question and I don't I can't recall under planning and zoning on the last page with the um approved for the uh cannabis operation did we we didn't add anything i I I had the same question i like any
recommendation or any condition well all all I think so no but we did say that we approved it the way it currently is but we did revisiting we revisit if we revisit the change the the ordinance then it will he would have to for the setback yeah yeah for the setback yeah
yeah that's so it's just a him it was just them having to follow whatever the current zoning is when I think maybe we state that though because the zoning ordinance I mean Phil and I had a meeting yesterday to that where the recommendation will be to lower those setbacks from the property line y and I think we
said I mean I think this case is hinged upon that change so I think and we reference that that we'll be addressing this so I think maybe concur with planning and zoning and and any new setback i mean I don't know if it was it
was implied for sure because we said you know this we did but change so I don't we don't necessarily need him to come back if if we change if we lessen that setback we don't need him to come back and say "Well my I showed you it was 500 ft and I can't get 500 feet i showed 300
can I do the 300 ft?" So well I think he could get the 500 he just preferred not to if you did I believe what he said he could he said that he could do it's just the I don't think you could do everything within because if you take 500 ft off your 40 Scott Wall said "What do you two and
a half acres left at I mean it's it does minim shrink that to almost nothing but we did I think our intent was to allow him to follow the the current at his construction time setbacks so are we going to change that in a timely manner
then that um I think I think um the way Kyle said he can't get it on the next board meeting it would be on the 1st of May may because it's got to go to PL the zoning committee and then come come here so it will and we had a lot of questions
now the the manufact I'm getting into reports but I'll say that later I guess but um I think we should say concur with planning zoning and following the current setback and and allow the current set the what do we want how do
you word that the setbacks that upon construction that are required upon construction or something so then when we change if we change them then it'll be when we change it'll It'll be it'll be state that he'll be able to do that just maybe say current current
setbacks upon constru on during construction okay something like Yeah so it's clear current setbacks at construction or during construction could we at construction time at construction time there you go yeah yep so he doesn't I mean so it's clear that we do
acknowledge that he could build under the new new standards not what was at at his so that would that was the only thing I saw do we have any further corrections or additions to the minutes all right with that being
said about to entertain a motion to approve the minutes so moved motion by Erica do we have a second second second by Barry any further discussion okay all in favor signal by saying I i all right motion carries
denise I think any of those dates would work for me on that um sorry i was down in Florida at the time and I just remembered talk to you all right move on to the consent agenda is there anything in the consent agenda that anybody would like to pull yes Mr chair uh
just as far as the process like if I just I don't want to pull anything i I just have a few questions then just pull it then just pull it items seven and eight seven and eight all right we will move those to the end of the county administrator report
um any other uh anything what am I trying to say would anybody else like to remove pull anything from the consent agenda um I don't need it pulled but you know it that contract for the um DA civil right assurance agreement i mean some of those
are so complicated i mean it' be nice just to just tell us what it I mean give us a little bit of an update on it and we can do that we don't need to pull it but maybe when you have Denise is up there we could just explain it to us a little bit yeah so it was pretty
so otherwise I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda 1 through six second all right we have a motion by a Barry second by Phil do we have any further discussion all right all in favor signify by saying I i i all right motion
carries all right commissioners open forum do we have anybody on the open forum whose name can I screw up today all right barry Shoulder when you come up please state your when you sit sit at the mic and then please state your name and address
yes sir my name is Barry Scher 948 West Lake Drive Detroit Lakes Minnesota 56501 yep yep go ahead yep appreciate the opportunity to be here this morning especially like your opening ceremonies acknowledging the flag and the
country i'm here to uh propose make a proposal the proposal submitted on behalf of a group of like-minded citizens who believe that acknowledging God in our governmental deliberations is not only reasonable and prudent but indispensable to wise
leadership this proposal is being submitted simultaneously to the three elected governing bodies in our community the Becker County Commissioners the Detroit Lakes City Council and Detroit Lakes School Board it's inspired by the longstanding
president of the legislative bodies at both national and state levels every session of the United States Senate and House of Representatives as well as their counterparts at the state level is open in prayer this practice has been in place
since the 1800s each of these bodies has a designated chaplain who serves for two years the incumbents have represented various denominations all have been Christians most recently the president of the United States has also introduced
the practice of opening his cabinet meetings in prayer it's a great comfort to the voting public to know that their elected servants are looking to God for direction in their decision-making responsibilities and my last point is I'm hoping that I
will receive your favorable action and approval of this proposal and uh I would gladly volunteer to make myself available to each of the governing bodies to assist in selecting from a cross-section of Detroit Lakes Churches those who would welcome the
opportunity to pray at the opening of each session i appreciate every one of you for your willingness to serve in a selected capacity and you sometimes face decisions that uh might need a little help from beyond your own natural
abilities and so I'm suggesting that we allow for God to be involved actively in each of your deliberations any questions thank you Ray thank you yep all right we'll move on to reports and
correspondence who would like to go first well Phil and I um had a ordinance committee meeting yesterday um we the only the only topic was the setbacks or the or the cannabis
ordinance and the setbacks and I and we I think we I think this board all agreed that our setbacks on um cultivation was too extreme um so we did we came to terms with that one fairly easy that maybe you know in that 100 foot setback from the property line was more
appropriate um again these numbers were you know kind of it's like what do you you know we don't know we there's so much we don't know about the cannabis state regulations um we did want as far as retail we wanted a lot more clarification and I and I talked to
Sheriff Glander a little bit after the meeting too um I think there's a lot of cannabis products being sold out there without without you know maybe our approval and I don't know if they need board approval some of those cannabis things it says in statute that they need
county board approval so if there's if there's stuff selling out there that and we don't know if there's a limit that you know some places can sell do you mean like the drinks and the the infused drinks so is there a limit that's like a 32 beer where someone can you know so
they can sell if it doesn't go up if it's the and then we started talking about the you know the places that are going to be applying um what are they called the disp dispensaries I mean and they are I
think and I haven't been in up at the tribal one up at the old JL beers but I think it's it's I mean you have to give your driver's license that you have to you have to be I mean it's not like you just walk into a you know dime store and and purchase anything so I mean those are like those are more secure than a
liquor store so should they have a I mean should that should there setbacks is there a need for a big setback on those because they are I mean you're not having that so I mean there's a lot more questions about that type of building compared to um a bar that's sell you know that's a restaurant that will sell
it i mean there's I think there's a lot of questions that we need answered but I think the committee said if it's a one-stop shop that only sells those and it's ID and I think that that's viewed differently i mean the setbacks could be
like a liquor store almost is there a setback for liquor stores okay but you know for a can there be one like next i mean is there like a by churches schools well that currently there is we have that but if it's a if it's like a liquor I think we're I think we're too extreme
on that right now currently because the liquor store you know if you have a liquor store out in Cormand or or some of those you start saying 1,000 ft from from a a playground or something i mean that I mean if it's a building that's
that you can't enter unless you're 21 I I think there's less of a risk than a gas or a restaurant selling it you know i mean there's there's just different you know there's different sales that have different you know if it's locked behind locked doors is different than if
it's hanging from a candy vending you know it's like there are different so we have some questions on that but we we recognize that those setbacks are cumbersome even in that but if it's you know depending upon how it's sold so
um still looking for guidance from the state but I don't think there's anything coming fast there so and we're getting before us now so so we have a lot of qu we have more questions than answers on some of it so hopefully in the next weeks we're going to have to fine-tune this but like I said it's it's going to
be easier in the future to go to reduce our setbacks than increase them so if we're a little bit too conservative to start with it's better than being too I don't know too lenient to right
early so um anything to add to that one Phil that it there was a lot of discussion but a lot of unknown we were in there for an hour and a half and this 45 minutes of that discussion was well we think well what if Well we don't have guidance from the state so I'm I'm just
backing off on all of this stuff until we have more guidance i know guys laugh at me for that but you know what this is a big deal i don't laugh at you because you have the concerns i laugh but but we we have to be we're the decision makers we have to make the decision we don't have a choice so I I agree we're in a
we're in a tough spot because we don't have all the answers that we You know what one one thing that did come up yesterday that I hadn't heard before you know with the liquor licenses they always have to come out to the townships to revamp their liquor well that's that's a grassroot level where you know
if you if there's a problem at that point you could at the townships anyway you can say "Hey we got a problem you guys are parking all over our ditches and stuff we we don't want to grant that we we have some concerns now we never had that concern in Lake View Township when I was on the board there but that
would be a good way to see if there are problems there's ways to settle things down or fix some problems i just I just think once this is out it just proliferates and we don't know what is
going to happen um that that I think would have to change at the state level because at right now they don't require that and I don't know that we can require it because with cannabis they've made it very clear that we can't be we
can be we can't be stricter here's our cannabis guidance and not much in there 25 pages um I also had a a Minnesota Rural County
Zoom meeting just uh just just updating you know kind of what legislations are doing and they're um they're really pushing um to push out some of the programs for human services um and I think they really said that uh like the
the acronym African-American Yeah minnesota American poverty family preservation family pres disproportionality that um what they're really pushing for is to get the software updated at all the at the state level you know that for
the counties to be able to utilize this so I mean I think I think the message that even the MRC and AMC is sending that we recognize that Minnesota has a problem here and I think that's why it was a um bipartisan issue to move forward but you we need we need the we
need the mechanics to implement it first of all the the software and the new programming and then we need financial help um to get it started one thing that they're pushing it well one suggestion by a commissioner was to you know right
now they're doing a pilot program in in Ramsey and Henipin well that's a whole lot different than than rural Minnesota so they're saying start a pilot project from rural for rural counties because you know we can't just I mean you don't know the problems that are going to exist for rural counties by Ramsey and Henipin's example so yep um that was one
of the big things um Representative Schultz was there talking about you know what was going on what he was doing um one of the things that's kind of up cons for that the DNR is doing and I think it was passed that they're going to be doing a public waters inventory
that's a f and I think I've said that numerous times here before um that's a 5-year program so they'll only take certain county you know they'll only do a percentage of counties every year um that's that's significant for rural Minnesota when they that waters list and there's an appeal process i'm sure that
if your ditch is on that you are restricted a lot more so um in my opinion if they they relist it they want to put a ditch on there or a waterway and it's through your property you are you are it's a taking from your property rights when that happens and there
should be compensation but I don't know if there's any anything that's going to happen on that but uh anyway be be um very aware of when that comes to Becker County and we're going to have to owners are going to have to be involved in that um
um he also talked about the new fraud prevention um and trying to reduce government um spending and funding of course uh I think that was uh there was there was just a lot of talk about about what's going on at the state of course um then Dave and I had
sheriff's a sheriff's meeting um we had some really really good news so you remember when we were hiring when when the sheriff glander proposed um that additional deputy was based on we anticipated new fund or additional funding from the state for housing um
prisoners um that did come through and increase from $72 a day to 96 so that was um that that will hopefully fill that um fill that funding where we had planned on it and then the transport um
deputy pdium which they're paying back to the county increased from 31 to $45 an hour um so that will you know and that's part of the reason why we got the big jump is we're going to do some local transporting um again we don't I think Sheriff Glender said that's that's still
probably won't cover all the expense on that but it it offsets when you say those prisoners you know the big bump in those um we also um we look forward or we approved the moving forward with the seasonal boat and water staff and that
will not have to come back to board then so you don't have to bring that part to board um you have an agenda for some things later on for the life savings so that'll be on is that on the agenda today next be April 1st okay um we also
also discussed a a grant project um for school mapping and I think Dave Dave has a better handle on that i'll let him talk about it but um yeah so the the grant program for school mapping so what the state has done is they've uh uh allocated $7 million to all to for the
schools to be mapped which means that digit they'll digitize their their buildings and their u their grounds so that when and then it'll be in the in the in in the for no other reason the 911 system basically i don't remember
what the name of that is anyway so then when someone calls in they can they can literally find exactly where the it is at but they can go the room number the the wherever it is and and they can just bring up the digital map and find them or if they're out on the ground somewhere and they want they would like
this to happen to all the schools in the state so unfortunately the way sometimes the way the state works they uh don't think ahead a little bit so they've just kind of done this and not had a plan so so right now we're kind of we're not really under the gun but we need to get
our data to like our data in our county of how many schools want to participate in this that's basically all we need to do so then once we have that then we can send that in then it needs to be done by the end of the month so so that we can approve it as a Northwest Communications Board and then that's actually where I
got it originally from was Northwest Communications Board but once we approve that then it can go to then we can send that data in and then this is how many schools we have could because the basically the grant process is going to open up in the next 30 days probably and in order for us to have justification of
how much money we want to apply for we need to have the the data to show how many schools that are going to participate in this this process and we we right now in Becker County we currently have a lot of our schools mapped out i got a I got a question so I
think the mapping on this part is more for cell phone usage right it's not the hardline usage like we have issues here um that but that was that's figured out through your hardline and and your so when 911 calls come through here sometimes it just says courthouse
doesn't specifically say if it's a hard line yeah but this is more for cell phone usage well it can it doesn't necessarily Yeah the cell phone would find it too actually what it's for is for the dispatcher to to open up this like hey we're calling from here this is
where the cell phone is boom i open up my my program and it shows the map of where they're at and then they can pinpoint exactly what room they're in or where they're at on the grounds or does that make sense right it's not hardline it's You can you can still call from a hard line so the so the cell phone where
the cell phone is will like go into the map to show exactly where in the school the cell phone is coming from from what I understand it's more for dispatching to direct law enforcement to that spot but the cell phone might show might give
them an idea of where they could they're like GPS location boom and maybe we can connect that they should be able to connect it to the mapping of the of the school no I it it would be good to map other facilities too but I think that they're starting with the schools and is
is the cell phone I mean if I call from this building I mean with all the granite and the concrete is it is it can you needle get that find that no well and my understanding from one
meeting we had at one of our AMC um district meetings was the issue is our 911 is not always capable for cell phones once we can get that upgraded that will be easier but that was where the Verizon search charge
would be nice if that was right do I know what I'm talking about sometimes we get a cell phone call and it just gives an approximate location like so many meters from X to power or whatever so hopefully that's going to get better
and better [Music] do you have any No I just I just it's one of those things I'm not sure if it's going to work like you know I just question that if it's going to work because the state is contracting it out and how well they're going to coordinate
it to the 911 systems all locally and and I think they're they're looking at that but I don't have a lot of faith in the state getting a product that's good to us and so what so what they've done then is this go back to the in the Northwest regional emergency board
they've they've instructed the regions to figure out how they want to do this so our region has decided we want to collect the data and then Henipin County has offered to write the grant for all the regions and get the the the consulting or not the consulting but the
company to hire the company to to do that um which we could we could we could do that as a Northwest Regional Board or we could do it on our own and and if we do it with the assistance of Henipin County we still have we still have the
control for ourselves in our region but then it would be easier for our us to get our schools mapped by the same company and then by and go through the same process and yes the state should have probably done that before they did this but they didn't so that's where
we're at m Mr if I may um with this I think to with the cell phone and you can correct me if I'm mistaken sheriff but really the idea is if the person calls in on a cell phone or a landline they're able to say I'm in the library I'm in the first grade room I'm in Mrs so and
so's office so then they can pull it up on the map and then send people I think that's big part of it yeah we'll see how it works so that map if you're going to go by names of of teachers you're going to have to update that at least annually just using that as an example
library gym but you know what I'm saying those rooms change every year so they could grades change updated yeah yep yep i no I I I saw all that too when we were talking about it do you have anything else Commissioner Nelson who uh
who would like to go next i can go next um I don't have a whole lot i had our opioid advisory committee um where we approved the um RFP recommendations for this um this time which are on the agenda so we can talk about that later
um human services most things are on the agenda we did have a good conversation about what um we're going to be looking at quarter at least quarterly for um budgets and staffing and then I had senior counsel
um just a couple things I wanted to make note of that there are a couple um on April 10th there is u Jennifer Olsson who's the Minnesota Homeland Security and Emergency
Management it's in um support of Dancing Sky um they're h having a free virtual event um just on disasters don't wait be prepared in advance And then there's a
senior nutrition program webinar on next Tuesday which is also offered by dancing sky in for it's regarding the senior nutrition program and then the one that um I think is important is for people of
all ages it's Wednesday May 21st it's uh called the file and it's really about um making sure you have a record of your financial information investments and insurance legal documents and estate management um just for planning in the
event of an emergency or death so and that one is held here at the home center and they're all free of charge so that was all I had does the state have a emergency respon disaster emergency response team sheriff Blander do you
know does the state have a team that they send out for big emergencies i mean every county is preparing like last meeting we sent someone to Dallas where we're to get training shouldn't there be a state team that kind of can come in and help with all these wouldn't
that make more sense in every county having to plan for a World War II i don't know i think we can do better than the state just like you said a few minutes ago though but I mean that scares me some of those some of those trainings I mean were so specialized i
mean the odds the hopefully hopefully the odds of each county ever having to ever having to deal with them are slim so if a state had that expertise rather than each county they let Minneapolis burn for three days man I don't know i think we can do it
better well this is a disa this is a disaster after the fact planning i know it but I'm still I think you're right about the other thing but I think that we do and I I agree that it'd be nice if they did something but um I think we can do a better job but I don't know i think
our sheriff can do a better job well I don't I don't disagree with that but I mean some of these specialty you know how do how do you I mean there's so many things to consider well that's that's true i mean it's so detailed there should be it's I mean if if something really significant happened it's so
complex i I would think the state would have a group that that would go to the the spots and say you know this is you would think that there would be a leadership from the state or at least a partnership but um anyway do you have any anything else
here nope that was all I had commissioner Mr chair um so on on the 5th I uh went out to Osage i toured our Psford and our Osage uh highway facilities um looking at our all of our
properties in the county um also toured the Osage uh the recycle facility out there um good tour i a lot I didn't know Steve Skoo took me out there uh came back to our our um household hazardous waste building back here on North
Highway 59 and took a tour of that and the property out there again did is that named the Sandy Gunderson building is that should be should be and then um also looked at some tax forefeite property and and talked with Skoo about you know what the process is for that so
that was that was interesting i didn't know that on the 10th uh we had a strategic planning zoom with that Ryan Seilock uh Carrie and I did um just coming up with some potential uh uh strategic planning plans uh no results back on that yet hopefully by next
meeting on the 11th uh we had a rack meeting recreational advisory committee um we talked about Dun Locks we're going to talk about that here in in one of those consent agenda items um on the 14th uh I had my uh Prairie Lakes over
in PUM uh the incinerator uh went out afterwards and toured the ash facility uh we applied for some grants to get to reusing that ash um I went out to the site and what I saw was not nearly what I had envisioned in
my mind um uh Peggy can you pull that up those pictures uh from the Did I give you get you that no I gave you the Dun Locksman okay um but uh there's additional 10 acres that has bought been bought right there um to
potentially get this ash out on roads we're going to do two roads this year in Becker County highway 75 over by Wadina is going to be done we're going to be using this ash out there um so to be determined but it's a good reuse of that program cuz that site out there is filling up so if we can get some of that
material out of there we'll have more space I guess and then Barry covered the Canada cannabis uh property setback thing we had yesterday that's all I had one thing to note on the env for environmental that I think I saw that we're having a a spring cleaning on the
on the reuse um so they're having a sale out there for the So anyone needs any products or I um I think they're having a spring cleaning out there if I wasn't mistaken I saw online somewhere that Are you talking about the Better Futures
building the Yeah the the used furniture out there i mean that's not just a one time thing that's No but I thought they were having a spring cleaning a spring sale type of thing to to try to get it moving and I mean I think we I I think I've stated I think we it's a great
program but I think and I I was thinking maybe at the end of each month or every at every quarter maybe you sell the lot and get it cleaned out to start you know so it it doesn't so we don't and sell it to some private people to bid on it so it's cleaned out and then you start new again because you know some of that
stuff you don't want sitting there too long and filling filling it up because there's a lot of there's a lot of reuse out there and and it's it's a good program um and then if if you haven't gone out there you can find some really nice stuff i don't know if the quality of the
material there would take more time and effort to get it to someplace else i I mean people that want to go out there and can purchase it for a nominal fee that's that's great but to dedicate resources to get it to some
other No I was saying you you you you do like an auction for the lot and then they come and get it i mean that's that's what I was saying to get rid of it to clean out i mean it wouldn't take our resource it would say you're buy you know we're selling the whole lot for for a for a vendor at at you know at the
flea market say they want to sell it over the summer or something i I just think every once in a while it should be cleaned out and started fresh but yeah I agree maybe maybe annually if you do do that make them take everything yeah yes oh yeah that's the plan yes it has to be everything all or nothing all right
Richard okay well I had human services with Erica and I don't have nothing to add there i had um NRM with Dave and Barry was out of town so he didn't get to see the picnic tables but we we
picked some picnic tables i hope that you you agree with them but um hopefully if it you don't Well we tried to get some good ones we don't want We didn't get no and I think I think you would you would want the aluminum ones i don't know
aluminum ADA ones yeah and uh the tribe was there and they cleared they they have they cleared all of that cutting so all the all the timber sales are we don't have any problems there um I saw they gave a nice report too i mean I read the minutes and gave a lot of
information so thanks Destiny to for that information it it was really interesting because I didn't realize how many divisions of their land use department I guess they have i mean it but then if you think about it there they like do everything the state does they everything they do everything the
federal does and they do everything that a county would do in in one in one area so yeah there's like they had what 11 departments I think in their land use did you guys do you guys get the minutes from NRM you know that's something that
Steve could just send out to I mean I I think it's very informative and send out and send out to all commissioners the meeting minutes just for and it could be for every committee yeah and so that was you know bringing them to NRM was a good idea when you when you did that because
it our relationship has gotten a lot better with them and uh it is and now it's different they like I said no problem with all that timber sales now so um let's see here oh and then we got uh
we got to save the roost trees for the bats and I I think that people should be aware of this i I just found out last year that the bats are are in and they're normally in hollow trees so that's where you would find them and so and and I know we're going to watch it
for our loggers are going to watch it but for people cutting trees on their own property I'm sure they're not right next to your house or anything but in fact they said the only ones they know about are in Itasa State Park so they don't we don't know of any other ones but um they said also I see that they're
under bridges and in culverts and and uh and they eat mosquitoes things yeah they do eat a lot of mosquitoes and they're very intelligent animals i know they look kind of creepy but they're a little gross yeah but they eat a lot of mosquito sometimes it's not always what
you know they Yeah I know but and I just have learned a lot about How many of you have had bats in your house when you were younger i mean we had it was the best thing ever my I don't know if they would say the best watched my mom scream and yell and go hide under a blanket it was awesome well I tore down a house for
the neighbor and unfortunately it was full of them and what I what we noticed was they were taking their babies you know we stopped and let them get out of there but they were taking their babies with them i don't know where they went i felt really bad about it but that to me
shows some intelligence and some something i don't know mhm um I don't know unless Dave you got something you want to add to that just one thing on on the uh what was it the shelter the shelter rental oh yeah and deposit so we they
came they came up we came up with a price to was $100 to rent the shelter the new shelter and then we decided we didn't decide on amount but the original suggestion was to have a $100 deposit refundable deposit we decided we should
charge more uh for a refundable deposit since it was refundable to make sure that everything is put back the way it is not you know damaged and and stuff like and things like that and we'll also have cameras out there too so we kind of just agree i don't know what I don't know what it's going to be but if if it
wouldn't hurt to have it a little higher to make sure they do clean it up when they're somebody's responsible for it i guess if it if we have problems we can Yeah make it even higher yet i don't know what it's going to we didn't come up with a number but we didn't want it we didn't want the rental of the of the
area to be too high though we wanted to make sure that was able to use that but I think that was it was I think climate Oh and then we didn't get Oh the the MPCA climate resilience grant we did not
that was the one where we would on the bike like you could put stuff on the wasn't it the shelters the shelters yeah uh like bike racks bike racks and so forth we didn't get that grant this time but we can apply again yep i think that was it do you have anything else uh at
all Richard no okay so I had a couple i'll go quick um I I had the sheriff with Barry had RM with Richard and I also had Lakes Country Service Co-op so really fast um basically the Lakes Country Service Co-op is a is an
organization that helps out public organizations but mainly they help out schools the most but they do do stuff for cities and counties well about in the mid '9s Lakes Country Service Co-op started a 501c3 which is a which is a nonprofit organization and the reason
why they did that was because they needed to uh they needed to be able to give services to like North Dakota like mainly Fargo and some services in South Dakota so that that's kind of the main reason why they they started that well
now they have a joint powers agreement with both state with both areas to to do services back and forth so they don't need it for that and they also were able to get some federal funding when they when they purchased the building current building that their their main area main offices are in um and they were able if
you don't have a nonprofit they weren't eligible to apply for or get those grants so that's kind of the main reason why they have it well right now in the last few number of years it's really not it's it's not appiable anymore it really isn't necessary so what they would like to do is they would like to reorganize
that and by by doing the reorganization they would be able to help supplement programs for more public organizations like counties and cities um mainly and that's kind of the purpose of why they wanted to do that so that's a that that's kind of a nice that was kind of a
big thing like one of the things that they would do they would do and have done in the past for let's say our county is they could have a class where they could teach they could they could prepare our bus drivers transit bus drivers or any bus drivers to get their
CDL license or any other drivers um and it would be it would actually be a very valuable class it would be cheap would be cheaper than normal and it would it it would they would come here and do it instead of doing it online at the tech school where they really don't get any support that's kind of what we had a
discussion about that long quite a while ago so anyway so I also had a dancing sky meeting yesterday and one of the biggest things in the dancing sky is they gave us their year-end report and if if if you don't like like the dancing sky maybe for maybe more for so for
commissioner Hansen it's an area aging it's an area agency on aging it's called the AAA and there are seven of them in the state of Minnesota and if you're 60 or older you qualify for services Sorry I'm I'll get there um and
anyway so there's two divisions to it there's one division where they where they grant money to organizations to give services to seniors and then the other division is the senior linkage line where seniors can call into this call into this phone phone service and
they can get they can get information on what they need to do and how they need to do it they can't they can't tell them what to do like but they can give them the information so they can guide them into and so they can make a decision on on a lot of things so they're very valuable services and it it's funded by
the aging uh American aging act I believe um anyway so they gave us their year-end report i just want to highlight two things one thing that they came out in the year report they serviced in just our area and our area goes from Kiten
County down to Pope County uh Douglas and Grant County and all the way over to Manomomen Hubard Clearwater um I think we have 21 counties in our region they served over 20,000 older adults last year and they they served
321,472 delivered meals and they also had conjugate meals which are meals that are inerson meals they had did over 112,000 of those i thought those I thought that was pretty good i mean there's obviously a lot of other services that they do and offer and are able to grant other organizations to
offer but that was interesting anyway I think they do the sale i can't remember what it but it's exercise class yeah they do yeah yeah yeah they do yeah and then Becker County has two of them we have two two of those classes yeah and so like for example
that was another thing there that's I asked that question like Becker County had Oh I forget what title is that is that under title D am I saying that right i'm not sure what it was we had a high number of that
but like we went up a huge amount like for example going up from 11 to 41 and it's because of that class 11 to 41 people serviced yeah and Yeah yeah they started one in Lake Park yep my 96year-old mother was sweet i think your
sister is instructor isn't she does anybody have any further reports for the good of the order all right so let's go on to appointments is there any appointments Mr chair yes um I would like to apply um for a position with
MAGIC it's Minnesota Association of Governments Investing in Counties um there it's a nine member board um four of them are commissioners and four of them are Minnesota Association of Auditor Treasurers and Financial Officers they invest the money for
counties um and I would like to It's a two-year term uh they work on investing about 1.7 billion it's an oversight board um but that kind of interests me um I talked to Julie Ring about it our executive director um we have regional
representation from up here already roso County is represented they try to do a geographic thing but I would apply anyway and if I don't get it maybe I' I'd apply again some other time as far as costs I talked to Barry about this a little bit they do refund it's it's Zoom four Zoom calls a year or three Zoom
calls and one in person um in St cloud she said and I wasn't sure about the PEDM uh and stuff like that but she said there was some things are covered some things are not and I was just explaining to Phil that there's lots of these state committees some of them pay per pdeium and mileage and and expenses uh some of
them don't but I um like I said like I said to Phil I applied for a position I didn't get it and I just wanted the board to be aware and if they would support that um again I I think this is great the more active you can be in those I fully support um if if if the
committee doesn't give you a predium and and expenses I think the county I would support the county doing that if the rest of the board I I would support that too yeah I would too yeah so all right yep very good thank you all right any other appointments okay go
on to the Eagle Lake access discussion um I just wanted to update you or Mr chair go ahead i I just wanted to update you on on that that's kind of my baby there um so uh I did go to the Frasy meeting again and uh that they said we're within 90 days of that being
closed with the investment group uh that is uh uh Tony Stock uh Rob Flint and John Drews are the investment group they formed a tax-free entity to purchase that to keep it public
um meeting or meeting or two ago i wanted to insert ourselves into that because I think it should remain public um it's going to go through with them and then after that down the road I would like us to entertain uh purchasing that to keep it public um someone had
mentioned maybe the DNR would be interested in purchasing that i did go down to fishing hatcheries um because I didn't know where else to go and I I got a hold of Nathan Olsen uh he was very helpful he's the fishing guy but he called his counterpart in Baiji um and
said the DNR has no no plans to purchase uh the access um but interestingly enough Nathan said he said "You know we stock that over there if we don't have a public access the 280 lbs of fingerlings we put in there every other year will go away."
Um so and they do a fiveyear survey every five years they they catch fish to see what's in there he said that that would all go away if you didn't have public access just so you know so um I asked Carrie I I don't know where the money for this would come um the
purchase price for that is going to be 190,000 the the purchase group um said what they've said to me that they would like their their investment plus whatever fees they have involved with it paid back at the point if we ever inserted oursel into that but they do
want that to remain in public access that's why they are purchasing it so that's where it is we'll wait for it to close and then I I would like to bring this back at some point though i think the reason that that they jumped in um the we had a meeting long time ago and
the county didn't you know John and I think I was it just John and I um we had a meeting with the the players and they kind of stated that we didn't I didn't think that the city was going to sell it because we told them it's not a very
good idea to sell public access like that um because they were thinking about selling it to you know at that time it was still open to sell it to a private into you know private people and um anyway they went they moved forward with selling it and have a purchase agreement
so I I I feel pretty strong that you know that serves a big area on the east side of Detroit Lakes for for that um I think we try to keep that public and if we have I didn't want you know 88 to buy another another public access from
another government agency but um I guess our hands are our hand is forced now if it goes to private and they still want it public i think I think we should step in and help that that out and figure out how we can do that i think we have some monies in our NRM we might not have the
full amount but um I think I think the lake association should have a little bit of Yeah they they don't have a lake association that that is another but I think the the the benefit to the people on the lake is significant too so I think that there should be some some of
the lake some buyin some buy in from the lake um and how that happens is is it remains to be seen but I I I don't have any problem with us helping or figuring out how to what type of package we can put together to to make this happen but
I I would like some buyin from the lake because um I think that's appropriate you're having you know you have a lake access where you can launch your boat so Mr chair Commissioner Nelson I I agree i I just don't know who lives on that lake who could represent the lake without
going to each home individually but I I agree with that i think they should have some buyin they're the ones Yeah mostly on that lake so all right any more discussion on number four all right let's move on to our county administrator one thing on that
is you know if they're say you know they have a purchase agreement so I think they could push the issue and and go with that but should we be looking at saying that you know we would look at that i mean if we're going to add in all
the other costs from closing and I know that the investors have some money into that already i mean my my concern with doing it right now is you know we we have some money in our NRM but we're not sure that we have enough and we're not sure what's what's
to come forward here with this budget cycle as far as where where are we going to get the remainder of that funding for I I think on top of what I think we're pretty close to having it all in in NRM but we'd have that but we' deplete that
budget but we're we're increasing sales so we'reing hoping to have more revenue coming in i think we have um like Richard said earlier we have a pretty good relationship with the tribe now in in cutting i mean we're I think we're getting through that we're getting through the process of what you know
coordinating that so I think the sales will continue for and I do believe there's 15 timber tracks this time so I mean I I I think it's a project that the county needs to be in be in though whether it's after the fact and but I if
we can get that group to work on on lake association or the lake to to at least pay their expenses and so anyway we'll I think it should be something of priority for so we need we need someone to talk to them about going to the lake may
maybe we can find out how much we have in our NRM account and how much I mean are we willing to deplete it knowing we have the ducks that you have Huh mary we have that I think right now but and Mr chair we don't need to solve
this now i'm just saying it's going to be coming Yep down the road so maybe we come back to the next board meeting with a plan of okay some sort knowing what funding we have what So I want us to be very clear if we're going to you if we're going to purchase it that the land
the money we're purchasing it with is specific for parks and wreck like it's not something that we can use to pay a you know something else so that Peggy can you pull up some of those pictures 173 is what we have in natural resource management right now and what about
resource development million over a million so what do you think about the township out there i mean it isn't just the people that I used to swim there when I lived out there so I mean we didn't live on the lake we rented out there and and
we all swam out there it's just it's the people in that it's not just the people in the lake there's a lot of people in that area probably more people outside of the lake that are using it it's usually really full of people who haven't been by there maybe the township would like to partner with us on it i
don't know and not not in a majority stakeholder but minority yeah well and maybe we also have somehow I mean I know they don't have any uh lake association but if you could I don't know if this investment group
live on the lake that they could get people together and hold anformational meeting and maybe whether it's the rack committee that attends or NRM attends that we we start some fundraising on their part
and see what they're willing to Well I think Richard brought up a Good point if the town you know the township represents all of them i mean the whole lake and if the if the township would maybe the township would budget a little bit over the next five years and Mhm or
at least and at least talk to people out there i don't know is that Burlington yeah it's Burlington here's some of the pictures of the park there um it it's a nice facility you have some in your Mhm that's the access right there going down to the lake this is on the south side
there's shelter there's multiple shelves just to the right there so um you know I I I'm pretty familiar with the Burlington Township people uh what would be the request to reach out and and ask what or say what maybe go are we talking about a interested in
financially i mean maybe it's a township financial support rather than the lake being there's no lake association support okay all right uh Carrie do you want can I be directed to work on that since I know the players there
or do it jointly the the fund that has a million dollars what restrictions what is that restricted to but I do believe there might be something okay seeing if we can access that fund then we would have easily the funds
available looks like there's a lot of trees it's a You would have to monitor a lot of tree monitoring there okay mary's the most observant person we have here all right let's move on to the county administrator's report thank you Mr
chair yep um there's a joint governance meeting coming up i would have sent you out an invite it's hosted at the chamber and that is coming up April April Fools or April 1st at 7 um the board of equalization the request for the date
for from our assessor was the June 16th that's actually I as after it was set I was told that historically I think he'd done them on a board day or board evening and this happens to be a Monday he wanted to do it the first day that there was availability for him so
hopefully that will work out um we've been tracking the Becker Bay auction which is kind of exciting that opened yesterday so if you're um able to bid or look at those items I've interest we were Peggy's been uh tracking it 1368
and just opened yesterday so um as a reminder to the public that that money that's raised all the items have been donated by staff and commissioners and all that money is donated back to the local food pantry and there's a lot of items this year there is a lot of items
this year i was years before I feel like there's way more and the goal is the year 2025 yep and I think well the way we're kind of cruising through here hopefully we'll exceed that this year so um I did do a little bit of well
actually quite a bit of research i know last board meeting there was a lot of question with regards to consent agendas and how we're utilizing them here in our county and whether or not we should be placing resolutions on those consent agendas so I did reach out to several other counties um for the most part it
all kind of really came back to um the criteria that you put on routine business on there there's no um hard and fast rules that you can't use resolutions i did find a few counties that do uh put some resolutions on there so we're really back to and really
probably what I learned is our county utilizes resolutions probably more so than other counties and I think that's just historically how we've operated perhaps for tracking and being able to go back and find things so is there any questions about that or is that answer everybody's
question okay there's going to be a meeting coming up i believe it's this Friday um we're starting the application process and the screening process for that child care grant that um we were awarded uh for 120,000 so we're putting together a
screening process with the committee as far as uh what that how we're going to score potential applicants for this is for those uh daycarees with the um with the plan for them to increase their slots so we're putting together I know Cody had gotten some information he's
put together the members that could serve on that committee to um put together an application process and then that will go out to uh Becker County as far as childcare providers that are currently providing or perhaps ones that might want to come on board and maybe
there's um some financial assistance that they could utilize in order to accomplish that so that is coming um I was in the city of Fr introduced myself with commissioner Hansen so that was uh that was fun um I am planning and I've talked about
this before and again I just wanted to go back um we have talked about doing as a board a road tour to go out to Dutton Locks and I had a few things on this list but I just wanted I'm thinking that we're probably going to want to look at maybe when the weather's a little bit
nicer so perhaps the first or the second board meeting i guess it doesn't really matter to me we can certainly do it backtoback following a board meeting or if your preference depending on how much time we think we're going to take we could certainly schedule it on an off day too i don't know what people's
preference is either one okay depends on what depends on the agenda on I mean well I'm getting to that yep well in a couple of the items that we that have come um come into play the Dutton locks project with the new shelter um the Eagle Lake access
I know you have asked for that um to view that as well as um we had previously been invited and whether or not we want to do this or not it's entirely up to you the strata the gravel operation out there they had talked about wanting board members to see what
that operation looks like as well so those are three potentials and I don't know if there's others the strata one would worry me a little bit i mean be a very if they're request if they're coming behind that with a request for
expansion or something it would be very sensitive I think to to go out there as a board um okay because there I mean when they when they applied for a expansion on the I mean it was highly controversial so I mean we want to make
sure that we don't appear that we're doing something inappropriate so I I would I would not be wanting to go out to strap as much as I raised the question yes so okay um all right but the other the other place that and I think individually we can go out there
or is to um Bucks Mills because I see where the project where they're going with that project because that's that's something down the road that I think um the county can expand that as a park area right on that because it's a very scenic it should with that rapids coming in it be a very nice viewing area and we
have property out there so okay so that's three do you have something no Mr chair I just uh I'd like to give you a little more clear direction on when you want to do it would we like to do it after a a meeting like this meeting and then just leave if we did it if we go to
Dun Locks Bucks Mills I think we should go to Bucks Mills because I I like that idea we could and Eagle Lake might take a while i don't think I mean it's going to take three three hour and a half you think so yeah well I mean we're not What are you going to do we're Well that's true we're not We're not going to We're not going We're not going
to go have lunch out there or anything or go fish yeah that's I would just do it right after yeah we do that for after a board meeting in May in May yeah so either the April or May you know and I don't mind in April you could do it before a board meeting and something that you know we used to do all the time
was to go to was to have lunch and I think maybe that would be a day we could um go as a board and and and have a a lunch after the board meeting we used to do that at we used to do it after every meeting we'd go out for lunch with all the department heads um it was a bonding
it got you closer to I mean I I think it had its benefits and the lunch was paid for by the commissioners or whoever we had a rotation not paid for by the county the commissioners paid for it and then department we rotated all around everyone took Oh I didn't hear you i
said or by the administrator oh no wonder I didn't hear you administrator took their turn also not every department had could choose where they wanted to go though not every time would be at the Sandbar but I was going to say I know a restaurant unless we got real deep discounts but I mean it was left up
to whoever is buying where we went but I think this would be one it maybe an opportunity just the board one i like that idea stop at even on site and have a sandwich if it's nice out to something to consider depending upon weather too it's like right i'll try to
pick a nice day sounds good okay all right continuing on um just wanted to give you a quick update on the veteran service office um our veteran service officer his last day was last Friday and I just really um want the board to appreciate the work that he put in and
the prep that he did and he did some flyers for veterans while we don't have anybody in that office currently so that was very well done um he put together flyers so for veterans that they can if they are coming in and we don't have anybody on site at least they have we
have some information that we can provide to them as to in the interim where we can where where they can go you know to receive certain services so yeah he just did a really bangup job so um vet are we're going to be starting um those interviews I can't remember if
it's next week or the week after t Tuesday next week okay tuesday we had a lot of really strong applicants so we'll be doing several days of interviews on the first round carrie who sits in on those interviews um the first round will be No I'm just wondering well we've
talked about that um it's several days so the first round it'll be the HR director myself and then I also have pulled in the veteran service officer from Klay County so we'll get through those first round interviews and then I'm just anticipating that we'll probably have a second round so and then
at that point I would probably ask for a commissioner to also maybe a department head uh second round bill Dave and I if you're interested in doing the first round you're welcome dave and I had commitments those three days they're they're not they're not
necessarily short so yes I Sorry I asked yeah no but seriously if you want if you want to yeah when the time comes okay we'll see yeah so yes so we have several days scheduled and uh so we'll be moving forward with that um I just wanted to
bring to your attention I thought this was uh I I believe I don't know if it was in the DL anyway um but Time magazine had featured the Trolls as a best places in the world for 2025 to visit it was quite quite uh the kudos to
you know the trolls so um yeah I don't think I don't know if we've this area has ever seen anything like that so it was uh just We did get voted once on beach the beach oh did we back in the 80s or my time that was in that wasn't
in the times was not in the times yeah so some men's magazine maybe it was GQ or something but I I just you know not not just nationally recognized but worldwide so yeah it was it was I thought it was interesting article that went out so I think that other one referenced Sheriff Glander
during his date the beach the beach the beach the beach top 10 sites sheriff Glander [Laughter] well it's also on National Lampoon's Vacation remember that there's a
postcard on there there is yeah there is jeffy Chase yeah the first one where they going back we're going down memory lane y yeah so yeah and we were talking I know this came to mind after I listened to some of your reports we were talking about you know emergency
response and 911 calls a while back and I don't know that I ever shared this with the board but um I did have departments and I think we have one left in this building actually and Joan from 911 um was also on the on the receiving end so I had our departments and and all
the phone extensions in the courthouse call into 91 to see where they'd register and they all just about all of them except for a handful were were correct so that was uh good to see um because I I can't remember how that all started but one was registering on the
wrong floor or something and it was accidentally hit and they didn't know where it was coming from so yeah and I think our conference room one is wrong but um but anyway that I just wanted to let you know that we were looking at that and that's per perhaps something we should even do with all of our other county buildings just to make sure that
if somebody is calling and needing assistance that it you can find the location you know especially if you're calling from a landline yep um just a couple of legislative updates i have been on um calls a couple times a week and as you can imagine as some of
you probably have um experienced as well it's it's fast and furious so I'm just going to hit a few high points the pad the paid family leave I just learned I think it was on Friday that there were some amendments offered to that um by uh Representative Baker um
to exempt certain groups u from counties um specifically that are covered under a CBA i don't know that that's going to stand but they also were putting in if you recall um the cost of this there's never really been anything put in about who pays for it and that perhaps could
be a negotiated item down the road but um the amendment that was put in would define that as a 50-50 split between employer employee so this is the one though that we were told counties were exempt could be exempt wasn't it from one of the legislators yes but then I
found out that's not that's not accurate that we were talking two different languages exempt meaning you could go to a private company to administer this versus we already have it in place yeah yeah so um I was talking exempt and actually AMC has asked for our
information because I think Becker County is very unique in what we offer as far as uh sick leave bank and vacation bank and we also as you recall a few years back did a catastrophic leave bank which we do have um money in there available especially to those new
employees that perhaps haven't accumulated the time if they had some type of a catastrophic illness for them or their family so they wanted me to and I'm going to get all that data together for EMC just so they have an example of that um so I will be pushing that out
also in this this um uh 90day or excuse me this amendment they were talking about the paid family leave defining uh more of the definitions of family and who it covers when it covers some timelines uh above 50 employees below
how much time people could take off paid under this um again those amendments I believe were just heard or offered uh last week so we'll we'll basically see where it goes I guess um ES ESST the earn sick and safe leave um time as well
there were some amendments offered on that for if you recall there was um the ability for employees if the weather was uh there was a bad weather event that they could use their sick leave bank for those weather events but it didn't have any exemptions or exclusions for
essential employees such as our plow drivers or our 911 operators or deputies and those kinds of things so the amendment that was put in here um would allow for some of those um specific essential exemptions for those essential
employees so again uh were you going to say something oh sorry um the other thing that I came across um in one of these calls that um there is and I I believe the story probably broke through the Star Tribune um there are
some compacts that are being negotiated between in kind of in private between the Wals administration and and tribal entities where it would give tribes off reservation um some basically foothold if you will um in the in the marijuana
market um under that draft compact and and there was a draft kind of floating out there um tribal cannabis businesses can that are operating off off reservation or off treaty land um that's been defined previously um are able to
negotiate um that and be exempted from basically the rules of the states with regards to um the zoning the taxation and all of those kinds of things so I did read that article that you sent me Carrie and it did say that they it was
wrongly reported first that the tribes would not have to pay sales tax on it and they updated it that that was wrong okay that they would have to but um I don't know what that looks like i'm I think there was it was going to be
negotiated but they would still have to pay the sales tax the sales tax yep thank you but that's still in negotiation so it's not done till it's done correct correct yes can you make that a little clear for so they could come down here and there's some there's some
negotiations in the works between the administration and and tribal entities off reservation so they're they're negotiating for us they're negotiating what kind of yeah uh do we have any say over that well we just learned of it um
I No we don't okay we don't have say over it the state but the state is so far behind in what their rule I mean they're making up the rules now as we go mhm i mean we could lobby for what we want but Well I don't think they got any business here letting somebody else in
here but but we are allowing everyone to sell so and that's fine but they got to go they come through they should come through our so they follow our own rules right that's that they should not be able to because we were looking at what fees if we can charge fees for that too for retail just like we do for
um alcohol tobacco yep well I think fees and registration I think we need to look at that as well but the other thing is the other question I think for to do with tribal is being is it sold in within the county do we get that money back to the county or does it all go to the tribe so you know there's a there's
a significant payment to the counties from cannabis sales but if it's tribal does the county get any of that money back if it's all sales tax then they probably would yeah so that brings to light kind of you know with the business
if it's operating off the off reservation lands or treaty lands you know who actually benefits from that and and do the counties and locals benefit from that that's really the question of I think we're going to need an attorney we've got an attorney well then we're going to need to talk to him
um also on these legislative calls the the age-old question which there's no answer for and and the question keeps being asked whether or not there's going to be a bonding bill this session or not I have not heard anything and uh the last item that I have is the Spring Township officer meeting is uh
see March 27th in the jury room it's at uh 6:30 6:30 i better write that one i I it's it's 6:30 is the when it starts but it's actually 7 7 o'clock when the meeting 7 o'clock when the meeting starts but meet
and greet is probably at 6:30 6:30 registrating reg is it 7:30 seven seven um there was I I've received an email and and yesterday's conference with MRC everyone at most counties have received
an email from the MPR asking about rentals have you has anyone else received that here um maybe I haven't um maybe you want to the short-term rentals is that what you're talking yes they asked about um working on a story about rental license in Minnesota trying to
create a list of counties that inspect rental properties for cities as in rental inspection department perform routine inspections and a list of counties that do that so there was a lot of counties that or every county had received that same email and they were just wondering if if anyone's responding
so um do you want to forward that to me sure okay so um that's all I have unless there's questions for me uh Mr sure uh the the township meeting uh do we have to post that if I was planning on going eric I think was day before i I would
normally go but I would be I'm going to be We would normally post it yes okay we post it though okay it's already posted y that one's That's one and Eric is going to report their annual twice a year meeting anything else nothing all right so let's
move move on to the two pulled consent agenda items mr chair why don't we do um I want to do Brian first we do the Yeah um doc yeah okay you're right let's do Let's do uh probation first so go ahead Brian
barry when we left the lunch bunch last time it was supposed to be you the next time was it well I'll start that's probably why we quit huh exactly the lunch bunch i certainly will start that's what it was called i will certainly start that again i I think it
was a good That's skipping out on pain all the time i did oh yeah no no treats for Brian would you bring another chair up and bring that young lady up front too
right absolutely come on Eron uh provided you guys a copy of our PowerPoint presentation just so you didn't have to refer to the board at or to the monitor but [Music] um first of all thanks for having us today um we were here Mr chair could
could you introduce everybody at the table i haven't Yeah just Brian go ahead yes it's nice to meet you uh Brian Rubenstein district supervisor Minnesota Department of Corrections and and call talk you got to say your other business yeah uh if you want to Doug call extraordinaire
i do have to get one also hi I'm Wade Ericson i'm a a corrections programming director for the Detroit Lakes District okay aaron Rundle and I'm the juvenile agent quarterback county thank you and we also have Nick Camel
with us he doesn't talk loud okay and then we have Jennifer Stuber with us and she is our uh traditional agent along with domestic violence uh programming so Okay all right so in front of us today we were here last year talking about some
of the cost savings that had occurred for Becker County um one of the thing was uh specific to um we equated some of the savings to our juvenile residential placement costs and I think last year um it came up to
approximately about 80 or $90,000 that um not necessarily just us but with some of the practices and we're hopeful that some of the things that we were doing kind of took some of those uh expenses down year-over-year and so we're going to get to that just in a little bit here but that's kind of the purpose why we're
going to be here today in all honesty uh we wanted to come before you today just to kind of give you a message of despite that the state budget is really scary right now um these are some of the services that we offer from the state of
Minnesota and even though our paychecks come from the Minnesota Department of Corrections we are here as your local uh interest for all things corrections okay one of the things that comes with having our delivery system how we have it here
is all of our felony side is 100% paid for by the state and so when we get towards the the end of our slides here we'll talk about some of the inind costs and some of our service and equipment costs that come along at no charge to the county as well okay so I'll explain
that for you Mr hansen as we go through this as well so one of the uh pieces that we had started last year was a very robust strategic goal plan so you'll notice here that I've got some things that are highlighted um as well uh that pertains
to some of the costs this last year we started our domestic violence program um this is uh compliant with the statutory 26-week mandate that all of our clients who are sentenced under the domestic violence um court conditions have to
complete per statute one of the things u that I'll get into in a second here on the next slide is the importance of this is we were having a backlog of our clients that weren't able to get into programming before when it was held outside of our office and so we took
that in-house to do that at no cost to the client and it's turned out to be a really really good tool and benefit to our program the next piece is our decision points program uh cognitive cognitive behavioral intervention group this is another piece that we didn't have in
play that really gets at those thoughts those actions the behaviors and how clients can do things differently to ultimately change their behavior so that's something that we have in place now as well and then we just started pre-trial supervision and I believe most
of you guys were here um when we announced that that started on November 1st um this was up no cost to the county or the client and we're going to have some data for you at the 6-month mark um the other piece that we have in play is
our assistant tribal probation officer program where White Earth excuse me I'm just have a little cold where White Earth uh has hired three assistant probation officers under their umbrella that work with us with our Native American community uh for those folks
that are on supervision on a high and medium risk so as to provide um more support for some trauma elements um uh some cultural pieces and all things that are wrapped into uh what we do with our Native American population the other
piece is our continued residential placement savings from juvenile supervision practices you just heard me talk about that as to why we're here again we're looking like and this is another slide down the row here close to $100,000 savings this last
year treatment court continues to stay in progress and that's at no cost to the county as well for our staff side our case plan roadmap and our implementation as to what we are doing with our clients in regards to changing behavior and the good practices that
we're putting in uh from our agent to our client that are really um measured uh successes with our client moving forward so specific data on the next page you'll notice that we have the
domestic violence program that we started over the course of this past year in order for our agents to qualify to uh be an instructor for this course they had to complete an extensive 48 hours of training we started this back
last April the cost to our clients is zero we've got several groups going on per week and with a both an in-person and virtual option so in case there's any travel issues etc that's all negated for our clients to attend most
importantly um the timeline of a group can be at a minimum of 18 weeks for our clients the ages are anywhere from 18 to 71 um 17 of our surveys came back with an overall survey score of 4.9 out of
five being that the clients truly enjoyed going through uh the treatment andor programming they appreciated the agent stance as to how they worked with them etc and overall our completion rate so far is 25 out of 32 so it's actually
doing quite well for uh the population that we serve how do you measure this the success rate up the 25 out of 3 week um that they're not being discharged from the program early that they've completed the whole 26 week program so sometimes there's violations that come
up or they're just not compliant and group so we've only had seven that have not been able to make it so the next page under juvenile supervision this is why Aeron's with us today you'll notice
that uh for all of last year we uh spent approximately uh $80,000 and we had a budget of $191,000 i'm not sitting here saying that every single thing that we're doing is tied to
$110,000 savings but what I am saying is that we are greatly assisting with that with the expertise that Aaron does bring to the case load barry looks at her and so it's that good work that we do that we try to do and keep these folks out of
institutionalbased programming at every chance that we can it's an absolute last resort that we actually put somebody in placement and Aaron is the uh king of many many chances to to keep the successful uh folks in the community
with us so the next piece kudos to you Aaron thank you awesome the next piece I have and that's an exciting savings to see again now that's the second year uh the next piece is our pre-trial like we said pre-trial started on November 1st and
we're going to come back to you in May and let you know how that first round is going um it's been it's been going very very well um minimal impact on the jail um we have hardly I think we've put I think we've had one or two
violations so far but that's the data that we're going to bring back uh come May and I I think those you know that pre-trial isn't that is Wasn't there some worry at the jail about the re the continue the revolving door on that yes
you're saying it's it's it's been better than than thought or Yeah much better than we thought than the negative outcome that we were hoping not to have so correct i think the worry was is if we just have people in the community on
pre-trial we're avoiding them going into jail in the first place but yet now we're going to have a violation and then they're going to come into jail get back in back out it's we're not seeing that so that's that's been a positive and on a flip side again the
savings when I don't have people in jail under violation etc that saves the county per dams of everyday rates of of what our clients will consume all the expenses that kind of stuff um the next piece here is a infographic in regards
to what we're doing with our case plan uh while we're working with our clients and we know that it's totally hard to read on here something that we'll bring back in May just to kind of give you a blip as to what we do with our clients working with them through the four-step process which is our engagement which is
our review process um which is where we evoke and conduct an intervention with our client and then ultimately assigning homework with our client as well between one visit to the next you have an eight process step on here this uh any client could take upwards of their entire
supervision time or they could complete supervision and maybe even uh earn an early discharge um if folks go through our roadmap successfully um through all the tools that we use on a daily basis with our clients so we're excited to show you that
come come May um in kind services so here's where we get to the sensitivities about you know where the state budget's at right now etc and how our county is set up really
really nicely to have all correctional services at a bare minimum cost to the county directly okay the things that we do under the Department of Department of Corrections in collaboration with Becker County we have our human resources uh
department FMLA uh performance all those things that come into it on our felony side and our gross misdemeanor side with our three agents that are under the other uh six and then our support staff we tuck all that on okay financial
services with is with us all the training all the IT equipment everything that comes along with what the agent is legal affairs our staff support our planning and performance unit our research um luckily enough um when we
have a county that chooses our delivery system as what is in Becker um our clients are able to receive some housing additional housing supports uh from the county from our state directly to pay for emergency housing that's those funds
aren't available to a county that's within a CCA county Community Corrections Act or a CPO county so we're pretty proud of that in case our clients have an emergency we're not coming to the county or any other uh referral source for that uh quick
stay the other piece is our safety administrator and another big one that we have on the back here is as no cost to Becker County on the next one so as you remember we've moved our gross misdemeanor misdemeanor juvenile agents over to our uh felony felony office down
in Washington where that has negated the costs of having our staff here in the courthouse which uh creates more of a budget issue so that has freed up that space up there as well uh we provide all of our vehicles all the IT equipment
office supplies travel and expenses the database licensing all the furniture uh drug testing supplies and we do that also in kind with our gross misdemeanor and misdemeanor staff uh to chip in with that as well the body armor that agents can
request all felony agent costs everything related to that that's where the biggest expenses come in for our supervision is on the felony side so on and you'll also notice 50% of our gross misdemeanor agents
misdemeanor agents so that would be uh Jody Aaron and Nick what we have here in Becker County currently is you you see 50% the way the budget landed this last time through all the subsidies and formulas being reran we're Becker County
is actually only paying about 45% okay so we got about a 55% back for Becker County some counties are they don't have anything that comes back and it's basically on the per capita um rate that some of our numbers draw in for funding
within each county so we're sitting very well um the district supervisor that is 100 100% paid for and any other disability accommodations etc so in short we just wanted to provide a real detailed quick explanation as to
how we uh humbly feel that you guys are um selecting the best service uh for Becker County and I know I do have a corny saying at the end here uh serving the community of Becker County is an honor and a privilege and we mean that
it's not just in writing um we're very glad to be able to do this for you all um with the hard work that we do and just know whether or not our paycheck comes from the state of Minnesota we're so embedded locally um that we do feel like you know obviously we're part of
the Becker County community and working with the sheriff's department social services you know even on our opioid uh settlement grant uh committees and with Commissioner Jeepson etc um it's all those things that we do together with you guys so we wanted to say first of
all thank you for continuing and allowing us to just kind of give you an excerpt of how it is that we do try to assist the funding savings in Becker County awesome thank you very much we I know I know I don't know if I can speak for everybody here but I know I we greatly
appreciate your guys' work it's awesome yes we do the people make the difference we you have you're Thank you thank you Richard Mr chair um I I would say Wade and Brian have been at sheriff's meetings i mean
so we're we're partnering there i think that's important to keep those communications open um but again to reiterate what the board said I I think if every every county had the works the the staff that that we have in Becker County um they probably wouldn't be looking at the other options and Phil
probably doesn't completely understand the process there are there's other options that we have this service we could do it ourselves and there are counties that are looking at I and I've looked into this 20 years ago i looked into what what services and found out right away that that what we get in
Becker County is I don't know if it's the same product but we have we get our money's worth from from what we do and and more so um I I can say too that I was at the legislative conference for uh and I'm on the public safety committee and I bragged about you guys so Oh
thank you that's right i was just talking to a few people and I said I told them how great our our uh relationship was and how everything goes well and you guys do a great job that means a lot and I I think it is the people i mean I mean if you could maybe upgrade Aaron a little bit otherwise I
mean you have every chance on Wednesday to do that aaron and I are are friends so we we know each but I but with that you know she is one too that I'm sorry that will answer a call um regardless of time or date and and that's what that's what I
think makes this such a positive rel well not positive for us but that what that's what with your budget items that's what that's what helps bottom line is the relationships that you have with your clients and how how you can address those immediately and I mean I'm sure there's there's people out out
there that wouldn't take a call or won't won't do that and you know not saying you should or shouldn't but the success rate will greatly depend on on taking that call or not so and I pro I probably said this last year too when we talked about it but no the kids the kids that
you serve need a person and and the that person is often what makes them successful so kudos and thank you for being there Pearson and I think another thing and and maybe maybe not just locally but the state has reduced I think paperwork um from when my wife was
an agent the paperwork at that time she said I can't do this job anymore it's it's just all paperwork and that's not what I want so um I think the state has streamlined maybe a little bit to make that that agent contact is what is so important for for getting that relationship going so I think if she saw
what we do right now she'd be uh pretty thrilled and maybe she'll even come back someday who knows but it's a complete different change from when we were with her then then versus now so but thank you yeah thank you absolutely
and we will we will continue to bring you data um at least once a year but especially in regards to our pre-trial and stuff where we wanted to do that a little bit more from the beginning we're going to do that and bring that back in May to give you some really detailed information so and highlighting our
domestic violence programming that we have now has been really been a big thing with with Nick and and Jennifer um starting that programming uh Nick really being instrumental and and being administrator to that programming and when they completed their 48 48 hours of
training to be able to bring that to the county here to bring that cost-free to our justice involved folks to be able to have operating what these folks are doing non-traditional hours too so it doesn't interfere with work which compounds the difficulty with people that are justice involved
Um it's just another example of the hard work these guys are doing to try to make things better here mr um just a quick comment um if I could reach out to you I have a couple of ideas for your early release Yeah program absolutely
my brain that I'd like to share with you and that's a good point Carrie because here here's what you'll hear sometimes is and I get a little sensitive with this is some groups across the state say "Well you don't have local control." You guys have local control we
collaborate with you if Carrie brings us an idea we're going to try every single way to incorporate that idea and that's how we do it with local control much like um um our opioid uh efforts and all of our domestic efforts etc etc you know
and even like our release planner that was put in the jail you know us shifting that position over to help Todd all those things like that are super easy to work with us on where we will absolutely do our best to incorporate whatever the
county wants incorporated so very much appreciate your time and yeah let's let's meet up with them okay yeah well thanks uh Brian Wade Aaron Nick and Jennifer i did it all nick did I forget about Nick sorry Nick did I said Nick didn't I yeah yeah see Peggy Peggy
backed me up on that one mr chair Carrie would you schedule some time would you schedule some Give me their information so I I I don't have a clue what just happened so I'll I'll help you um we we we're going to move on uh we're going to take those
two consent agenda items and put them after human services go ahead yeah I was just going to ask if we could if Judge Lawson is here and I'm guessing she probably wants to be here for the oath the Yes so let's move on to human services please [Music]
then we'll come back to Mary too good morning Mr chair and commissioners we have first item is the are the opioid RFP recommendations um we h we are on RFP round two um we have had a number of
applications that the um review team scored and we're bringing to you the recommendations for what we'd like to move forward with the there are three projects um for round two that we'd like to recommend the first is the Becker County Public Health application the
categories in prevention um for a re recommended funding amount of 36,400 um this is to continue with the work that's already being done with the first round of RFP um the difference is
that um we've moved to nasal nlloxxone um rather than the injection um otherwise um that's basically the same um uh providing nlloxxone trainings at least quarterly and upon request comm um
providing community outreach and education and funding media campaigns in addition to the Nlloxxone access point the second is the Becker County Human Services Behavioral Health Unit in the category of treatment for
$20,000 and this is to expand the availability of treatment for opioid use disorder um for clients who are unable to afford the $1,000 down payment which is um the majority of what this is um this particular project is for and to
pro provide a small amount of wraparound services to individuals and lastly the F5 project which is in the category of treatment uh the recommended funding amount is $216,500 and the project is to establish
a support system for criminal justice involved individuals who have OUD and co-occurring substance use disorder and mental health um in collaboration with probation and parole um they're funding it's funding two peer support
specialists to move into Becker County um and provide wraparound services this um particular project has been in effect in the Fargo Morehead area for years and has been very successful so we're
excited to um hopefully bring this into Becker County for a total of $272,900 out of the opioid settlement funds is there any timeline to spend those funds i mean I think we have 627 now
there's I mean there's not a I mean I know it's ongoing revenue for correct quite a few years there's no restrictions on how I just wanted to make note that um the F F5 project is a pretty big deal to to
come to Becker County so I think um us being able to help bring that to Becker County is is great so I'm I'm excited for that to to help those that are um you know have suffer with opiate use and other co-occurring substance use and
mental health disorder so can you do you want to explain what f the F5 group is a little bit more just is there a is it a they currently work with it's the treatment programs the drug courts correctly in FM in the Fargo Morid area they do a number of things
they um I think they have a housing for um those that have federal um um charges and help them find housing there's a number of things they do do you want me to speak to that yes in my former life I dealt with them
quite a bit um they started out very small and it's really it was started by a gentleman that his history is quite interesting he has a long criminal history previously drug addicted etc or alcohol I think was his he's very open about that he gives speeches so he
really was trying to um look at the gaps for people within the community and they started with mentorship so they pulled people together that got sober they're mentors to some of these individuals that are addicted because um you know really people that are addicted really
want to be connected with people that have been there done that so it started there also opened up some um safe or probably sober houses is probably the better way um so I I don't know how many they own in Fargo now but basically that is a home where people can uh go while
they're in treatment they have to follow their program they have to be on probation um I know that they do some work um in the jails i know they have done some groups um they're very connected to the sheriff's department in Cass County and Fargo as well as the human service department and did really
really good work when I was in human services over there was he the gentleman that was an article about that he got his um that he was his felonies that he had were quashed yes because they also do some work um and I know he's been he's a strong advocate i know he's uh
done many speaking engagements i know he has also testified um out at the North Dakota legislature on just the barriers of you know felons and trying to get on the right track and then they have this history and then they can't get rental places because of their history i know
he's worked with uh landlords etc so he's I read that story about him on when he correct yes and just his history is just uh and again he's very open about his history where he's where he came from and how he got where he's at today mr chair if I can add just one to that
um so we are fortunate enough that we're going to be hosting F5 within our office and that's where they're going to take up residence for a little while um to meet with our clientele and really get him with our folks that are on supervision and so they're going to we're going to have an office for them
uh in kind so that they can have a good start and really hit the ground running uh we're super super pumped to be able to work with them moving forward as well so thanks for um pushing that awesome do we have any further any other
questions for Denise or anybody else we need to have a resolution to approve the opiate spending so do we need a resolution or just or not a resolution a motion i'm sorry I used the word wrong word i'll make a motion to approve the Becker County opioid settlement project recommendations so we have a motion by
Erica do we have a second i'll second it second by Richard mr chair just in the motion then we'd list the names of the agencies and the amount yeah is that is that good with both thank you okay thank you yeah do all in favor signify
by saying I discussion or do do want do you want yeah mr chair I just Denise can you give me a a top level this opioid settlement how long has it been around for or when did we get it two years now how much was it to begin with um that's
difficult to because it's more complicated than that there are a number there's several of them it is yeah it's the opioid settlement and so whenever there's a settlement um u initially it was pharmacies and um things like that and when they settle um then um that
they all kind of pool in the same pot and the state sends the funds over and then we're responsible at um does it have to be used for certain things for Yeah there's a that describes um the categories it fit in so this is just
treat or other yeah correct becker County prevention becker County joined the state um in these class action lawsuits against the big pharmaceuticals and doctors and umarmacies that pushed the opioids on patients um they were
settled so this big class action got the funds and they distributed it's going to be it's a 20-year payment is it 20 some are 20 some are 30 it just depends on the settlement each settlement is different so that's why it's so complicated and there's always more so there will be more this isn't an end
this is this is just the beginning this is our second round this is our second round mhm yeah currently we have 627,000 in that budget and it it will it's paid semianually for the next depending upon which loss was again each settlement is
different summer annually 20 30 years so so it could be at least a minimum of 18 more years thank you any further discussion okay all in favor signify by saying I i all right motion carries it was funny when this start when the opioid
settlement came because there was people saying "Well we're not going to get anything out of it why bother?" So I think there were counties that just didn't do anything and and now they're finding out that there was it's big money so it was billions of dollar settlements all right Denise all right
and then um next we have the fraud prevention investigator position we'd like to move it from part-time to full-time and um the reason um the main reasons for this is due to the CA case load of this um individual position and
the fact that the state fraud prevention grant allowed us um full-time um funding beginning July 1st so we wouldn't put anybody in that position until July 1st at least um full-time um one thing that was interesting is
that um we had for the first full fiscal year we had a fraud prevention savings as a result of this position of $211,296 and um about $8,000 in criminal overpayments so that's at a part-time status as a full-time of course that
would just continue to increase um this position part-time was funded um almost all by the state fraud prevention grant and some reimbursements but at that time the county share was 6,466 with this change to full-time and
the um full-time grant that amount that county share amount will um turn to zero we're happy to report with the um grant dollars additional grant dollars and reimbursements um I don't know what other questions you have i have Shannon Jamaica with me our
um financial and income maintenance supervisor who um supervises directly this position and this program i think I asked this question yesterday in finance the grant is good for for sure for two years so till through 27 correct yeah
okay um what step did you budget 26 at step five step five okay um the only the only concern I have is in our in our meeting yesterday with MRC the in the government in the governor's proposal he was cutting funding for fraud prevention now I don't know what areas but I have a
concern if that if that funding is cut that the county I mean I just have a cons concern i mean I think if we wait till July 1st we'll find that out if this two-year cycle but you know you don't want to hire someone and then go try to go back to part-time
because then we are liable for um probably some unemployment and um that's interesting because the information that we have received was just the opposite that fraud prevention they were increasing funding yeah fraud prevention we asked that question well Representative Schultz just yesterday
said the governor was is pre and that because he's on the fraud i think he was on the fraud committee know um that he was trying to reduce funding for fraud so I mean that was and I don't know what areas but that would be concern i mean but again if
that's not if it's fun if it's funding and you have that we would know by July 1st yeah we have that the the budget is should be done at the state before that correct and maybe he was you know maybe it's not this fraud funding maybe it's some it's another he because it wasn't specific to
what he was saying but was just like oh this cuts to counties is just killing us it's just for sure mr chair Denise uh yes sorry for the elementary questions but uh did you say
that is that the fraud investigator part-time found $200,000 of fraud is that in our county that's correct that's I don't know whether to feel good about that or bad about that a a lot of it too is through the savings so fraud
prevention we go out um and we can stop it before it gets too high so a lot of this comes in with cases we are closing maybe um a month into it we found out that something wasn't factual on an application so we are going to close the case for the next available month and
therefore we saved that one month in savings for whatever program that would be so we do a lot of um investigating on the front side also um to make sure that the people who have applied and are on the programs are eligible to continue to
use those services going forward if not when we close them then that would be a savings too so is this fraud is this outright theft or is this people not knowing how to apply the program it can be both um we have done three criminal
cases um in the last 5 years prior to that it was well before my time if we had ever done them so we look at intent we look at all the pieces we investigate the whole thing it could be somebody entered some information they thought was the correct way to do it but found
out it wasn't so what we would look at is okay well you didn't have the intent to commit fraud so that would fall under savings because we're going to shut you down for the next available month because you're not eligible um there are intentional fraud there are people who
put information in knowing that it's not true and we'll find that also thank you and Mr chair the money the savings and the monies are mostly state or federal monies i mean it's not county dollars that they're saving so that so
if the county has to sp pay pay for the fraud prevent person I mean if the funding went away we'd be paying money to save the state money we would be paying money to save it so it would it'd be a a difficult a difficult challenging
for us to spend our money to I mean it's the right thing to save the state money because it's still our money but um it's there's no return on it so that's why you question yes Peggy do we have any more questions for Denise
at all so I would entertain a motion so I will make a motion to um approve to change the part-time fraud prevention investigator to full-time starting July 1st
2025 pending the continued securing the grant securing the grant second and then we have a sec a motion by Eric a second by Barry any further discussion okay all in favor signify by saying I i motion carries thank you all
right thank you Denise thank you did you want to discuss that civil right assurance agreement do you want to just give a overview of it just real quick yep so um some of our programs require uh us to um our clients to provide us with federal tax information and so there are certain items that we have to
have in place and a prescribed procedures for that um thank you again um some of those things are we have a sign-in procedure for those areas where that you know that may be seen it may be on their screens for example we have to
have um certain security measures certain IT things we need to be in have in place so we work with IT on that portion of it but this particular document just staff with the annual training that's required which we do and um each
one of them sign off that they have taken it annually and this is basically for the food and nutrition act is that correct yeah correct y and I imagine there's every act probably has another agreement like this so okay
thank you thank you and Denise I told you any of those dates I think would work for me for meeting okay i'll get back to you let you know which one all right we we will take a fivem minute break we and when we resume we'll start with Mary on the other treasurer turn to your seats
[Laughter] i know i know i like that intercom thing though that's okay hello yeah they don't have resources so that's where I'm thinking what what are we gonna do to help get it cleaned up
and not punish punish them like because unless we unless we help them clean up all right Mary you are up on the contestants roll what is your bid
come on down i miss Bob yep good morning commissioners morning Mary we are here to talk about resolution 3252A the 2025 tax forfeited land sale the resolution itself you will
classify the land as non-conservation and set the initial prices we'll approve the date of the sale as being May 2nd at 11:00 a.m the second document I gave you is setting the terms of the sales which basically outlines the procedures that
we will use that day something new due to legislation is in the middle of the page all not land so all land not sold at initial sale will be offered after 30 days for a minimum bid the third page is the 14 parcels
that we are proposing to sell we have four adjacent parcels which must be adjoined to a parcel that they're being restricted to only adjoining owners we have eight public parcels in townships
and two public parcels in the cities um once the board approves this they would be published in the newspaper 30 days prior to the sale and posted on the county website any questions Mr chair um I question is now I know we had
the we had tribal input on this were they going to purchase any do you know if they were purchasing it or how what's the process for the tribe now if they want to purchase they get they come they come to the sale oh they come to the sale they come to the sale they bring a blank check
and then Mary can you also explain um how the pro just briefly how the process works now with the tax forfeited sale where the money goes to okay with the new law 75% of the proceeds after the initial cost will go to the state for
the fund to for any claims that are filed against previous properties that have forfeited and the money used to stay with the state and would be distributed we paid for the foresters and then we would distribute it between the townships and the county the 25%
left y so what the 75% is is goes into a super fund yeah so if the counties get sued by entities that claim that we have um taken taken their prop I mean wrongfully sold their property made profit which we did by state law so no
new new state law the old state law we were following state law previously which now they found unconstitutional so now we would have to be we have to follow new state yeah mr chair Mary how did these 12 parcels come up i I hear we have all kinds of tax forfeited land in
the county why are you choosing these because the set this new settlement that we agreed in with this class action lawsuit said we had to list first the properties that forfeited between 2016 and 2023 that had not already been sold
so that is what this group is the new law only does a I think a 15-year look back so the old old tax for land does it's it'll apply to if we sell it I think if we sell it it'll follow the new formula for for revenues but it doesn't
the doesn't apply to them being mandated to be sold these are mandated to have to sell yep yep because of the look back period in the settlement agreement that we signed what about forfeited properties previous to
16 right now we're getting we're actually getting PILT payment on that and if we sell those 75% of the value would go to the state and we would lose our PILT payment so we're not pursuing looking back at something that we
forfeited 40 years ago because we're managing that as forest land in the future and when we sold it in the past it was for a specific reason i mean like it was landlocked and there and nobody could have access to it unless it was an adjoining land owner and and I
think the county felt in in those parcels that you know being it's it's not being no one can get to it we can't log it because we'd have to go so then those are the ones that we would look at in the past selling now in this new new process and new formula I don't see a
reason why we'd look at selling you know anything unless it was you know extreme circumstance we then we'd review and sell it if we chose to mary do do you anticipate this like this process like next year we'll do this process again or
will we wait every other year we usually do it every other year because we have the elections in even years land sales and odd years okay where does the 25% of the funds they go into the county general fund tax forfeited fund natural
resources and then it's divided up between uh those two funds resource development and the parks and recreation fund that's where their funding is coming and also from the timber sales okay which you'll hear about in a minute
thank you i I would hope that the state I mean after after we get through a few years and this and there's the lawsuits are paid if there has any lawsuits are paid that this formula would change back so the counties can capture some more of this revenue to enhance our recreation
so yep we would hope it will take hopefully so no f any further more questions for Mary I would entertain a resolution to pass resolution 2A or motion to pass resolution 2A so moved so a motion or um by Erica any We have a
second second second by Barry any discussion okay all in favor signify by saying I i all right motion carries thank you thanks Mary all right let's go to uh let's go real quick to number seven
the highway resolution 2D that we pulled from the consent agenda yes so my question on that was up here um it's it's a resolution to stop
the parking of Westlake Drive on the north side um it was my understanding that the construction is not going to start until next year why are we stopping the parking on the north side now i assume this resolution would take effect as soon as we enact it right or
as soon as we vote on it i I would assume that it would I and maybe we can get Jim if he's online to tell us about I would say it would start when construction started that's what I planning stages this year right we we
learned that in our meeting and next year is when they're going to start why would we do this now that's that's the question uh unless it is direly urgent I would suggest that we get an answer from Jim on that maybe it's a very good reason um
but there's no sense in stopping the parking well we could leave it open-ended and and leave it up to committee to set the date on when you do that i mean it does say approval of the proposed construction is conditioned upon parking certain parking she'll ban the
parking of motor vehicles on the west side of County 8 highway 22 to Legion to Washington i mean just say date to be determined well that's there's no date in say date to be determined by by highway committ by just say our highway engineer y I'm very okay with that
yeah it's not so we have a clear So we it's so it's clear that it's not current well if there if it needs to be current if there's something that needs to be then Y but maybe Yeah I understood it that he brought it forward that specifically it was going to be when construction began it but it doesn't say
that in there that's okay got it okay if you could clarify that can we hold well we we can app we can approve it with the county engineer pick selecting the date to clarify the date the date as either construction or as or as recommended by the county engineer mhm that it's not
going to start tomorrow yep correct so do we have a motion to approve 2D with the I'll make the motion the Okay motion by Barry do we have a second start date and and put it in there eric a second and I think it should
probably just read just he should insert the date in there and we're I think we're fine with the date probably um and it could you know that could be whatever you know but I think it should be a solid i don't think we should leave it kind of open-ended in the resolution
because it has to go to the state for for Cass Road and and maybe again there was some CASA language in there to say about um when it has to be reported for CASSA miles to get reimbured for those miles so I don't know if there's some timing on that
okay any any any uh further discussion on the resolution okay all in favor signify by saying I I opposed all right motion carries okay let's move on to information technology mr chair were we going to use We're
going to move item eight item eight is is you moved that to the end yep to the end yep okay all right good morning morning commissioners good morning chairman i have today the um normal computer order for the county for
2025 uh it's a little different this year in that uh this year uh human services has a grant called the MA enrollment allocation grant that's going to be able to pay for uh 30 of the
56 51 laptops that we're purchasing so that would be 39,720 so then the county is responsible for 30,879 we've also added in there 15 docking stations our docking stations are getting older and so we we need to
replace the ones that are called uh USB docking stations and moving to USBC docking stations and there's 15 of them for sure out there so that's what this is for so we would be uh getting some funding from a grant which is which we haven't done before in the IT department
for this and then the other would come from the uh normal uh recorders fund fund yep any questions and and then one other thing too by Duke by the grant which is a great which is awesome it reduces the amount of money
that we take from the recorder funds for by 40 almost 40,000 almost 40,000 yeah does anybody have any questions for Judy i don't so I will entertain a motion to approve the purchase of the laptops the docking stations for the amounts of
$75.99 so moved second all right we have a motion and a second so any further discussion okay all in favor signify by saying I i all right motion carries mr chair I'm just wondering if it might be helpful for Judy just to give the board
an update on our our voicemail system that's down yes absolutely okay okay the voicemail it's called Vuemail the voicemail system needs to be upgraded to a current version we are on 12.5 we need to move to 15.2 um we've been working with the
vendor once we got a hold of the vendor we've been working with the vendor for the last few days and we are planning to do that tonight uh starting at 4:30 there's a couple of issues with doing it um that will impact us a little bit uh one and that will impact us no matter when we do it that's we're why we're
choosing to do it after hours um the voicemails that people are going to get between 4:30 and about uh between 8 and 9 tonight they will be lost forever they will never ever be heard because we're on an old system we've pulled the data off the old system
to put on the new system and so they're just going to be gone forever also at about 8 between the 8 and 9:00 hour we will lose our auto attendant which is when you call in and you can go to here and there and you don't ever have to talk to anybody till about 1:00 in the
morning we're hoping to be done between uh 12:31 this morning uh with with all the with everything including the testing if it does not go well the good news for us and this is why we're willing to take this this risk is we
have the ability to um it's it's what's called a sidebyside upgrade where we have a piece of hardware here and a piece of hardware here and so we still have everything over here so if we have to power this one back up that's what we will do if we run into a problem otherwise we'll be using the new one by
the time everybody gets in in the morning any questions on that oh and what caused the viewmail issue is um it wasn't the the uh voicemail system or the it wasn't the the voicemail system it was actually
something that the out that out that Microsoft did which said uh even though we're using what's called I know nobody cares but O2 it just doesn't work with the version we're in there's something about it that just doesn't work so it was kind of a surprise to us and a bit
of a surprise to our vendor at the same time so any questions on that Mr chair uh Judy is that for all of our county services is that just the courthouse the whole county where we use these except for 911 but it's for the whole county it's
the voicemail for the whole county it's not the phone system for the whole county because those are on different servers so it's all the voicemail for the whole county so if I may um you can still get voicemail you just have to dial into your phone yeah and county employees are used to getting a message on their computer email saying you have
a voicemail from this number or this person that's the piece that we're missing so people can still get their voicemails but they just have to dial into the phone yeah sorry I should have explained what the issue was i'm sorry i I honest and truly before you emailed us I didn't know that existed so
any other questions on that we'll let you know how it goes all right thanks Judy thank you Judy all right uh Steve and Mitch for land use and NRM is this closing the show up no yeah they're the last morning Mr chair board members
Carrie Peggy we have a number of items before us today uh let's go down the list for parks and wreck uh we have resolution 03252C uh supporting uh commitment to the
Detroit Lakes to develop and implement a recreational facility improvements at DMR in Mountain View this is part of their re plan to expand the facility um basically it's just reaffirming that we're going to continue to work with them support them any questions
i don't have any questions no motion to approve 2C second all right we got a motion by Barry second by Phil do we have any further discussion okay all in favor signify by saying I i all right motion carries thank you uh the second
item is a trail routing study RFP and a contractual agreement through the partnership for health they had some extra funding available that we were able to uh get a grant from them to do a trail study going from Detroit Lakes or the Dunlocks Park going down south where
the future Heartland Trail would go uh we're looking at $15,000 from them and then if the study becomes more than that we'd look at uh cost sharing that between hopefully between the city the county township and we fest if possible
if they'll kick in some dollars uh any questions uh Steve what Mr chair Steve uh what what is the top level of the study what is the top dollar amount you know I talked to the consultant and
we were anticipating it's going to probably be in the low 20s to mid 20s is is where it would wind up being let's make sure that somebody keeps an eye on that that that doesn't get up to 50 grand or something because I I think Lake View Township they wanted to know i think they would be involved not at a
huge level but you know that they would like to get involved and know what's going on I believe with a few dollars but not out of control dollars correct I think Steve would you your mark or what do you think the township's 1500 or something 1500 they want to know what the total amount was what the study did
and we still haven't got that yet we got to do the study to figure out what the route so what we'll do the next step would be once this is approved and we can move forward then we'll release an RFP and then we'll get those numbers And so we would know at that point but we'll do that we'll have that discussion with the vendors that we're going to be
sending this RFP to to get some better ballpark ideas where we would be steve did you say that that the study will look at going through to through like Shore or maybe along Highway 59 and down to Bucks Mills also it'll examine more
than one option it would be it'd be looking at possibly three different routes down 22 down 59 and or look at a possible alternative to go west from Dunlocks maybe around Sally somewhere in there okay i I just want to make one point too
uh Peggy had emailed us uh this was a draft resolution right and then you emailed us the uh I emailed you the um actual the actual one okay okay so came in what friday friday I
think yeah yeah yep so just so you know that's what we're approving the actual it's probably the same but all right do we have a motion to accept i'm lost here right now hold
on it's a resol res do we have a motion 2 C do we have a motion to accept the resol we already did no not 2C um it's B it's two parks and rec we did it's B there's I don't know if we have a just a board motion just a board do we need a
motion to approve the uh trail routing RF to send out the RFP for the contractual agreement so moved do I have a second second all right uh motion by Erica second by Phil do we have any further discussion mr chair yes with in regards to this do
you want us just to route this back through committee and as we get a commitment from the different you know as this moves along and we pull it all together do you want this to route it through committee and the committee members report back or do you want this to come back to the board
the RFP well no just a summary of where we're at on it once we put it all together i would say if it's a huge a large more larger dollar amount than you think then yeah but if it's 20 five more I I I think you guys could bring it to I
always I always think um I mean unless they're time sensitive i always I always like board discussion i mean that's that's me i always like it i think it would be good to come back to board okay okay thank you all right you know and Mr chair uh also you know this
is going to benefit the city i I think the city might take a active role in this too along with Lake View Township all the entities that are bringing this together i think a financial component would be appropriate from all of them okay if we do get so then you could I'm
saying ask you then you could bring it to committee after maybe after you talk to those entities and then bring it to board okay okay all right thank you um so we have a motion and a second uh all in favor signify by saying I i opposed
all right motion carries the last item with parks and wreck was a purchase of picnic tables that was on the consent agenda uh I guess what's you have some questions yeah then so uh so we're going back to item eight the land and use the picnic table purchase on the consent
agenda yep is that what we're doing right now that's what we're Oh yeah i'm sorry i was fine um two things here so I'm on the rack the recreational advisory committee but two things um NRM discussed this the rack discussed this um this leads into a bigger picture this
is the strategic planning one of the first things I think we should do with strategic planning is look at our organizational charts for everything because in our rack committee we went ahead with a little something we thought it would be good and appropriate and save the county money if we asked um
organizations around the community if they would be willing to donate to these picnic tables um so we've already started that process um I don't know if that was uh I don't know if that was even appropriate or not but we did we thought that'd be a good idea in the community
to get the rotors and and kuanases and lions um we and they're and we've done that already um they are very uh they want to be part of that um I guess I don't know if I overstepped my bounds there on that but the bigger
picture is is that who's making the decision here is NRM is the RAT committee um I I'm I'm looking for a little structure there so we know who answers and who who and who does what and it seems like this was some redundancy and definitely some dup
duplication on this half the board is who answer it's ultimately the board neither the rack is a recommendation committee and NRM is a recommendation to the board too so that both either one should come to the board um I don't know I I don't know i think in for today's
motion I think we authorized to purchase these and and fundraising to have naming or to have naming rights for each table for you know if you want to put a Lions logo on it or a you know sponsored by the Lions or sponsored I mean that naming the if they want to reimbur or
pay for or reimburse I think is a great idea mr chair Commissioner Nelson so we've already we've already got commitments from organizations so I know there was a 6 week lead time on these or something like that so with how the process works
we would direct that here today and go out and buy them and then reimburse them from these organizations have name or plaque put up or something we're going to have to buy them regardless where the money comes from so we'll order them the money comes in i think there could be I I will have a
plaque for all donors to for everything and and maybe maybe it'd be one plaque saying you know this is what the donation was for the pic this picnic you know picnic table donation or flag pole donation or you know some shelter donation or whatever the okay and maybe
rack or NRM could come up with naming rights if you want to name the name the whole facility the the you know American Legion you know there should be some financial obligation Then initially not ongoing but um just like the school
everything at the school when it's built if you want or the museum you want a room named after you this is the dollar amount and maybe that's maybe we need to look into it a little bit more and all donations that come to the county such as for a picnic table have to come in front of the board for us to accept yes
so I mean that would be and once we have all that the names and the dollar amount we would bring it whether it's Mitch or Steve or somebody from the rat committee whoever wants to come in front of the board and say here's here's what's been
donated here's who here's how much and then we motion to accept that and then as as far as the the two committees I think there is some overlap but I think there's a purpose for both um the rack committee is obviously is
all geared towards recreation and parks and wreck and then the NANRM committee does some of that and they also do all the natural resource management stuff so I think I there's just there's going to be overlap because of the nature of the two well there there is over Mr chair there is overlap i I
just I've been on that rack committee for two years and and I get confused at times at what our mission is i I agree with you Barry we are we're recommendation committee i agree with you this getting funds all has to come before the board but I don't think it's
clear who does what and I know the I mean I'm frustrated on the rack we don't have a budget to do anything we're recommendation committee well we spent a lot of time doing some stuff and then it has to go up to NRM then it has to come to the board and I mean at any point it can be shut down um uh well there are
things I think I don't know if Rack can you know we kind of modeled it after the planning and zoning committee planning and zoning doesn't have a a budget to you know it's kind of that same format when it originated they were looking at groups were coming in to ask for
guidance on projects that's kind of what the rack was intended for so I don't um I think if you're expending money I think then it has to go through NRM but it was a recommendation for this trail you know horseback riders want to put a trail through some tax forfeit land you
know rack was the where you go to to get that process through I mean that was the intent um I guess I don't know we can examine that too and and alter how what what is the purpose of of the rack committee but that's what the original
because we had ATV trail you know a lot of ATV requests and a lot of but then you started getting hiking we know we had the hiking trails and so that's where um there was actually a trail looking at going through the Smoky Hills and I think Guy Fisher did a lot of work on finding the a route through there
because you had it was a state trail so it had to be you know certain slopes weren't allowed and um but that that was where that was going through and again I I don't know it's evolving somewhat and and uh I I guess I don't have a good answer
right now well I I would hope that our strategic planner if we do hear back from him that we could we could vet some of this out a little bit behind the scenes and then come with a a clear vision uh if we do get to that point so that's just just a small thing you know
like the p if the re the purchase of the the park over in Burlington Township you know would be one that you know do they have do you have a recommendation does the group have a recommendation but they have to have you know if it's county funds doing it you know it's a whole
different story because they would have to analyze is the funding available is the funding is are we cutting it too close for what you know ongoing or you know we have ongoing expenses so I mean you know you know you're bringing a
another constraint financial which everything is financial so I mean strategic planning and a budget put that together i mean that's that's your answer and that what that's what needs to come before this board here but the subboards the subcommittees I being on
the rack I just don't think there's a lot of clear direction on what are Yeah we got a lot of good ideas but how do we get them implemented um you know what this kind of a conversation for another day i just I kind of wanted to vet that a little bit now anyway um but I I don't
know if there is an answer so what is the what what and maybe Steve or Mitch are we soliciting for um donations for these at the county not from the county standpoint the county is not asking going out and asking for donations i we
kind of talked about at the rack committee that rack members were interested and and this would help alleviate the cost on the the county which the the board members the members on the rack myself included and a couple other ones are asking the Lions clubs
and the can we can can the should the I don't know whom the rack committee through through Mitch and Steve kind of get a letter then drafted for for for the rack committee to do this and And if anyone else wants to have it on maybe
put post it online if you want to make a donation for a park a park bench a park picnic table you know you have different levels of donation to be named at that or Mr chair Commissioner Nelson I I think that the picture is much bigger than that like for that specific thing
that might be okay but I think the picture is is is bigger how do we go about if something like this comes up in the future how do we address it um I think that's the question that needs to be answered rather than just a specific Well this was that I was getting at you're going to have many different
levels with the park bench versus a picnic table versus naming the whole shelter or um I mean for the whole for Dun Locks i mean that's just one one area that we're talking about not countywide parks but but I think if you if you're talking
about the rack committee in general you know that really it I mean it is a recommendation com committee so I don't know that there is going to be anything that would just be a decision made by the rack committee is that is that kind of where the the problem I have with rack
committee going out for donations to buy I mean if if they if you're just giving cash donation do what you want but if you I mean I think that's all you're asking right now that you're you're asking for cash donations without any recognition is that if you but if you start asking
for recognition it's got to be certain levels I mean if the Lions or whatever group wanted to be recognized as a donor then it has to come through the board i mean I think we have to acknowledge that and at what level will we acknowledge or allow someone to put their name on some
sort of item or you know Mr chair I Mr nells Commissioner Nelson um what's the difference between the rack committee sitting around a table for a couple hours and discussing and you going out the door and talking to
somebody on the street i mean there's not much more except that it says we're on Iraq committee and we have a mission um it it I mean someone could make a recommendation on the street to you as you leave today to any of us that's that
I mean that's they they could but if we are going if if any donations that are going to be accepted officially accepted the board our board has to approve those donations right and I think I think what you're getting at is we should the rack committee's
recommendations should maybe we should have them on listed on the board agenda and have a report that's every at after every rack committee we should have a report what their recommendations are what they're you know rather than and that comes straight you know Steve and
Mitch present that or probably Steve coming from the rack committee and if their recommendations they um but if there's no asking for anything maybe it's just I don't know how we format that so I mean I think I've always struggled with the rack
committee myself i I've never I've never been a strong supporter of having it because I think I think it was so redundant it wasn't necessary if you want to have people at NRM um but we have good members on the rack committee so I I you know we have to find a purpose is what we have to find well
when you look at chain of command right now rack committee they're bypassing NRM to come and report here so I mean that's a structural thing um correct i I don't know how it works uh I don't know how it has to work but I think it can work better and I don't think it's
working as efficiently as it could right now we don't have to solve it today you know just being aware maybe as a start i don't think the rack committee's ever been used utilized well because I don't know that's my opinion
all right so do we have a motion to approve the purchase of the picnic tables sorry my glasses got dirty purchase of the picnic tables and um I guess just purchase the picnic
tables i'll I'll make that motion to purchase the eight ADA compliant uh picnic tables for the new Dunlock shelter second with with a is it okay with both of these with a maximum of 11,500 is that good for both of you okay
so we have a motion and a second do we have any further discussion i think it's prudent though to acknowledge that there are people out there willing to donate funds to make this improvement and and if we get those funds we'll recognize them at a later date yeah do we need that in the motion though or No okay
yeah all right so all in favor of uh the motion signify by saying I i all right motion carries all right uh Steve and Mitch got the next item is for NRM it's a spring 2025
timber auction tracks that we have listed for sale yeah yep there's uh on this auction 449 acres uh offered with 9,270 cords have an appraised value of $151,140
um as it was talked about earlier and alluded to the TIPPO or tribal historic preservation officer the the interim officer has reviewed all 15 tracks and approved them as well as the state uh historic preservation office so from the state side of things um one of those
tracks is they noted that it has to be frozen ground only so we put that on the appraisal on the permit um so yeah and again thanks thank a big shout out to the tribe for coming to our meetings and working through these early on and that's been a I mean it's been
something that we've been missing and and can it's it's better it we have such a good relationship with them the people that you know that are coming are great they are great to work with they are they are really good people I agree yeah they are all right so do we have a motion to
approve Approve the spring 2025 timber auction tracks so moved do you have a second second all right motion by Barry second by Richard all in or do we have any further discussion uh Mitch so compared to previous years are you about
equal to what you done in the past are you growing in timber tracks or acres or however you measure that we have yep we So for a long time there was just one field forester basically putting up all the the wood uh for each auction so we're essentially doubling or doubling
that so um I guess if you look at the acres per auction this is this one's 450 um historic auctions might had 250 acres or 200 what's your vision of two foresters what can you do a year this is probably um is this your max or
can you get it it could go up i I you know want to look at it not from just us going out just harvesting because but looking at what we have out there for age classes and and the composition of our forest and when it needs to be harvested uh there will be an influx in
5 to 10 years when we're seeing a lot of older aspen coming up for in that rotation age we call it um so looking into the future I expect us to do more harvesting um and more acres so u but that's a little ways out yet i think
there's still a lot of wood out there that we haven't touched that uh has either converted to other species where we're trying to go in there early enough so we can and grab like the the early age species that um might fall out so
your aspen your paper birch those type of species that are more successional or pioneer uh versus your oaks or or maples that are longive species that can stay out on the landscape and don't need to be harvested necessarily so so and all the environmental concerns with
replantings and the bats and all that all those are being met before we even get to this stage correct yeah yep and then every timber cell that gets set up we're required to follow what we call forest management guidelines are set by the state they're voluntarily but each state or government agency is follow the
supposed to follow those so that's everything from retention trees so we're reserving a percentage of the cut area or riparian management zones so we're not getting too close to the water's edge um a lot of erosion control factors get put in that those are just some
examples of things staff are required to meet for each sale so along with um communication with um DNR and u the tribe and so forth so and I know we put a lot of money and effort into the the trail routing system which the loggers
are using now but the snowmoilers and the the other recreational people use in the off season that's all working together yeah we've talked about it for a while trying to beef up those roads they've been neglected for a while I think or they just it doesn't take much
you know one season a wet season and four-wheelers and side by sides can really do some damage so um that's another thing coming forth is that grant and aid ATV trails i think that's a way for us not only us from the county but other folks to help monitor that so we're avoiding those um environmental
impacts on those trails and spending less money once we get them up to the current state they should be in so thank you Mitch do we have any Mr just asking what do you think the current rate of timber is is it what are we higher or for the sales of the wood uh it's about
normal it's we're a little bit if anything we're a little less because our our transportation or trucking to get to the mills the big mills is a little farther we're out here a little ways so um you know our price per cord for Aspen might not get as high as Itasa or St
louis because the mills in the backyard uh so the loggers are going to pay a little more consumers so uh but the big the big mills right yeah but there's a fair amount it's it's surprising um you go in the countryside and there's a lot of Amish mills that are taking wood um I wish there was more plants that did like
uh poultry bedding and stuff like that so we could utilize more species that are tough to sell or um for example basswood is a it's a tricky one for us to or the loggers to to get rid of or utilize so um and in fact in the back in the day along Pur had a poultry or
bedding uh mill there which was very good for that utilizing that species specifically so do you have any further discussion all right we have a motion and a second so all in favor signify by saying I i opposed all right motion
carries all right next item yeah Mr chair the next item is an agreement with DNR um this has been in the works for some time and and worked and talks through committee but it's called the bat habitat conservation plan um the intent of this is to uh protect
those uh incidental takes of northern long-eared bat Indiana bat there's bat lots of different bat species that are federally protected because there's a white nose syndrome disease that's out there if you're familiar with that um so what we just don't want to
abruptly um kick the the young bats out or the bats during either the winter or summer um season so this agreement through the DNR not only Becker County would help but 11 other land county or county land departments uh protect us
from if there was an incidental take uh of a of a bat out there in a known area so um it doesn't change any of our management goals or objectives as far as acres or um how we manage the forest um
it's simply it's it's it's almost like an insurance or something like you might call it uh that that helps you know the state's working with the federal government so we can get housed underneath this plan um otherwise yeah if there's any other
questions on that I I'm not a expert on the the disease or the white nose syndrome but I know this is an this is something we can do to help prevent uh the loss of more bats so especially in the rooies it's really I mean we are
required to do do this anyway I mean we can't Right if we didn't go through the state we'd have to go through follow the federal which the same thing it's just a little bit more flexible here so so do we have a motion to approve the land owner
enrollment program for the bat habitat we is there I mean the only question I is there an um out that we can get out of this if say the state changes the rules in this or or or or is stricter than what the federal government
requirements are yeah that was Commissioner Nos that was discussed a little bit at like with other land commissioners and um with thing all these things changing with environmental restrictions kind of being reduced on things and or lessened um
yeah I guess it would follow the federal whatever the federal guidance or rules are and I'm sure the state would um follow that so I but but is there is there a way for us is a way to get out of this agreement if we It's a good question well it would be a new agreement wouldn't it
what's that it would be Mr chair Commissioner Nelson wouldn't it be a new agreement if if they changed it we wouldn't They can't just change an agreement that we agree to and sign if they want to change it they have to ask us for a change don't they
i don't know sometimes I I guess I don't know the answer to that i would think so but maybe not um I'd like to do that i'd like to make agreements and then change them as I go and make you live up to your end well if if you're It depends on how it's worded
well they would be rewarding wouldn't they no it depends on how the agreement if the agreement is saying that you will follow what our guidelines are oh and the guidelines change and the guidelines change that's how the state agencies change law they do it by they don't need legislation they change the law so um I
mean I can I'm I'm supportive as long as we have an out but I would like I would like to if we make if we prove this to have the county attorney review it so we know that there's a we're not binding oursel to something that we we shouldn't
you know that might have long-term effects that we that we're not aware of that's Mr chair Mitch um what if we don't sign this then we're not I guess then we wouldn't be following underneath some sort of a a coverage we would be uh
suscept have to be following federal federal rules which are a little bit more stringent and I don't don't allow I don't think for the the in incidental take of the bat species um so so if the if the low if the machine piece of machinery runs into
the tree knocks it over and kills the bats we'd be liable for that under this agreement we would not so under this agreement yes under this agreement we're going to be they haven't given a number but I'm sure they will be allowed a certain amount of incidental take so um
and sorry I I'm fine with it as long as if we have count county attorney review yeah we do that and we've done that numerous times so so do we have a motion to approve the agreement with the county's attorney's uh review of the pro of the
agreement mr i'll make a motion to approve the DNR landowner enrollment program um with county attorney review of the just to make sure it's not has some unintended circumstances so do we have a mo a motion by Barry do we have a
second i'll second second by Richard any further discussion okay all in favor signify by saying I i all right motion carries any other just just a point that if the county attorney raises a red flag on something then it then it comes back
here for more discussion yep so any further anything else for the good of the order all right we are adjourned have a good day