Morning everyone. We'll start the meeting with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Sweet. We got a huge rowdy gallery today. Yeah, Jordan. [Laughter] See, he brought his mafia. Do we uh do we have any uh agenda any
agenda items to change, add any confirmation? All right. I'll entertain a motion then to approve the agenda. Move to approve the agenda. So we got a motion by Phil. Do we have a second? I'll second. Second by Erica. Any discussion? Okay. All in favor signify
by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. Uh minutes from May 20th. Do we have any adjustments? You got the Dunton rather than Dutton. Yeah. I had Yellowstone on my I didn't I didn't Was that in the minutes? It was in my
resolution. Yeah. Yeah. I fixed it. Sweet. Did you fix it on the resolution? Uhhuh. Mhm. Mr. Chair. Yep. Um on page 202 under appointments, I think the Pelican Wershed I think the dates of the terms should be on on the Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And I don't know. I think it's it was reappoint Scott Busker, but I suppose that would be appropriate being he was but he was he was filling that filling in. So, but I think that's fine. a reappoint or I think he was yeah he we appointed him previously to fill out a
term. So pay a reappoint. And then on the last page on 44 under the probably the just on the on the sale of the Yamaha ATV and then the purchase of the I think uh the amount and then the um
that this was grant funding in with grant funding to pay the difference. [Music] Do we we the amount of do we want to the amount of the new one
9,9 it should be and it should be low quote not low bid. Yeah. Low quote of from the amount and just include the amount 9. Yeah. 999 or something. But we have to get that amount. Yeah. And that's all I had for the May 20th.
Does anybody have any more for the May 20th? All right. Do we have a motion to approve the May 20th minutes? Approve. Second. Second by Phil. Phil. Any further discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right.
Motion carries. Minutes from May 27th. Mr. Chair, there wasn't really much detail, but I I just thought maybe on the work session. I think we should just highlight a couple of the things on what we did rather. I mean it just says work session but just say the board um
reviewed these top you know these topics for yeah future consideration or you know because it just presented by Ryan Seock I don't know it just it should be just a little bit in there um that it was the what we
do well in the budget discussing budget how budgeting process or something Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson, you know, we did talk about some one-year, remember at the last last question was what would you like to see in a year? More uh more data uh be transparent capital
improvement plan. Those are kind of some of the things that we discussed. Yeah. Even if we just say, you know, the board looked for, you know, um budget budget process improvements and and goals for for the one year and and long-term
future. I mean, I just think a little little bit of d little bit of detail that would be. I'll move to approve the May 27th minutes with uh that addition. Commissioner Nelson's additions. Second. All right. We have a motion by Phil, a second. Uh all in favor signify by
saying I. I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right. Consent agenda. Do we have any items in the consent agenda that we would like to pull out? Um, I don't have any I just had a couple questions on the the Eddie current.
Yeah. Yeah, we did. We did tell Steve yesterday. So, I think we should pull the Eddie current and put it under Steve because he's got another item to talk about. Good. Cuz I I I think it's important to just because of the price and what it is and Okay. So, we'll put
that under. Yep. Under land use environmental is number two. And then does anybody want any clarification on the two transit motions? Um this number seven and eight
or is everybody okay with those? Okay. Cuz I I just cuz Phil and I are in the meeting so we could clarify it now if you had any questions. I'm going to talk about on my report. Yeah, I am too. So or you are one of us. Oh, great. Both of them talk about it. I'll let I won't talk about it.
Mr. talker over there. All right. Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda by and pulling number five out? So moved. All right. So motion by Eric. Do we have a second? Second. Second by Barry. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right.
Open forum. Is there anybody on the open forum? All right. So we'll go to reports and correspondence. Who would like to go first? I'll happily go first. Um I'm going to try to limit myself to three minutes in order to keep the meeting moving along. I'm timing you. I'm timing you now. 3 minutes in front of committee
on 3 minutes total. No, total total 21st. Uh met with the watershed. Uh we're going to get into the the the well we approved it last meeting the 30,000 to get rid of the building there. Uh we need to talk to Jim about getting that building out of there, selling it, doing
whatever we can. The watershed building. We're going to talk about that in in meeting tomorrow highway. Jim Jim Olsson because we got to put it up for bids. Why why is he the one just out of curiosity? I don't know. because I can't go out and say, "Hey, can you take that building down?" And he could put up for
bids is what I Okay. for to get rid of the building. Okay. Well, yeah. I mean, Jim could, but this isn't my time. I I would assume Steve could I mean, NRM could do it. And then I think the full discussion is I think we need to look at the full plan on that park rather than
just go ahead and get rid of that this year. We'll work on that in subcommittee. Well, I I'm not so sure that as we move forward if we if we establish I mean are we looking at the parking committee this year because that's an NRM issue. If we're not and we need storage, it might
be something that we just put on the make a gravel parking for for currently. So, yes. Yeah. All right. We'll come back with some suggestions and subcommittee. What committee? Well, it's not a highway project. It's
not going to be NRM. It would be an I mean the parking area for the park is NRM. I mean if he wants to if we need a bid on it we could ask for Jim's assistance. My opinion. Okay. Yep. Yeah. But would maybe we would try and sell it. No.
Again thinking absolutely. It's it's the long-term Yeah. And I'm not saying we have to do it now, but but it's but it's it's the long-term planning for the Natural Resource Management Committee because that's in the Did you stop your time? I did. I did. Right. So I mean I think
this and Carrie can I I I really don't care if we sell it if it goes where it goes but I mean through highway or I think you need to coordinate which committee that goes through then correct? Okay. Uh airport at airport on the 21st. Uh Carrie and I were there. Uh
lot of construction going out there. Parking lot paving fuel system upgrade. T- hangers you probably seen them. Um there is going to be a ask coming. Um, back in 2017, the county committed, I got the resolution, to a million dollars
from one runway expansion. So, um, that's coming to an end, but there is going to be an ask coming soon. Well, for more money, I would assume I would assume they're saying that they they have money left over from the original project. That that's not how government
this government works. you get the project completed, that money doesn't sit there waiting for that entity to spend it at a later date. Just so you know, I'm not gonna be real supportive of, oh, you didn't spend enough money earlier, so we saved you money, so we're going to spend that money that you committed to, but we didn't spend on
that project. We want to roll it over to another project. That's not how government projects work. In No, I looked at the resolution. It there was a commitment from a mill for a million dollar up to up to a million dollar for that project. for that project. Yes.
And that project is complete. How much did they Well, it's that they're they're saying it's not complete. Okay. Well, so that that will be the discussion is what you're saying. Yes. You can't just keep adding on. How much did we how much did we spend or how much we're at 856 something like that. The additional
ask going to be for about 84. Um okay, we'll get to that when the time comes. uh Prairie Lakes, uh putting some ash on that county highway 75. We're trying to we're still working on that. Um I'm going to be on the budget
committee for Prairie Lakes. Uh we're meeting June 20th is our first meeting. Transit, can anybody tell me how many staff transit has not you come here? Kevin was here. Are you asking a rhetorical question or
asking are you testing our knowledge or do you want to know what the answer is or you have the answer? two. Um I would assume we have four, five, six, seven. I would say we have at least a dozen volunteer drivers and and two in the 12
13 staff. God writership% um county share of our costs. It went down after CO the county or the the state was paying 95%. Now they're going to move it back to 90 for 2026. So we're going to have to come up with a little share there. We're we're putting in to
replace two buses. The buses are $156,000 each. We can't even put in the order until September, October. That's the order, let alone when the bus gets here. So, we're going to that's coming up later in the agenda. We suggested maybe using a sheriff's squad car or
something else to transport people. Kevin was going to look into it. Planning and zoning. Big thing there was um uh gravel permit out between Cormmont and Pelican Lake. Uh a lot of people stood up, a lot of neighbors stood up against that. Kyle's going to do a finding a fact. We're going to meet here
in another week. Environmental, we're rolling out organics. Um, and then we we'll talk about this Eddie drum repair. Um, I and Richard hopefully are going to take a tour of the uh regional facilities uh with Steve. Just go around and see what else is out there and see how we can collaborate and if there's
anything we can do. And I I mostly just want to see what else is out there. That is it. It's pretty good. All right. Um I could go next. So, one second over. My finger might have been slow. That's not bad. Yeah. Um, so we
had Richard and I had uh the EDA our EDA meeting. There is currently an RFP in Frezy for multi-ousing housing development on the city owned land. Just if there's any contractors interested, there's land available in Frezy. Um, we
went over the audit. There was no concerns. Just a couple housing updates. There's currently one vacant unit in our public housing. Um continue to work through um 21 applications on the waiting list.
Um they're assisting 57 families for through the housing choice voucher program. They have 120 applications on the waiting list. Maple Avenue in Praise is full. Um there we're currently working on that RFP still to do some
work on the outside of the building. And West River Town Homes there um 12 units there. All of them are full and 12 of those housing cho choice vouchers are used there. Um how is the
how are the is it being managed well now better now? I mean there's not as many issues going on. Well, no. It's it's still of all of our housing project projects, that's the one that has the most turnover. We do still have Mahubi. They're doing I I think they allocate 20
hours a week to for case management for those. Um it's a it's a long-term homelessness housing facility. Um then the only other thing, uh we have our Hidden Hills Group home which we lease to Lakes Home and we just got our
um lease updated for that. And then we also discussed the extension building um because that's been kind of a hot topic on our board. Um the EDA, just so this board knows, is not
um necessarily in favor of getting rid of it. There are some ideas that are floating around of things that we could do with the building to um fulfill our mission of economic development in Becker County. Um, speaking
of our mission in economic development, um, Carrie, we probably should see a report, I mean, a report of what's been accomplished in EDA. Um, from Cody,
Mr. Chair, we house some people. Mhm. Well, I mean, we were promised when this went full-time that we would see 20fold money investment return and um I just it's it's a position and I think the
employee is a wonderful I I think I think he's utilized in other areas better than the actual EDA at times. So, um, he's actually, you know, just a he he's he's doing a really good job compared to
what we had before. I'm not sure, you know, we're kind of we have problems going, you know, we'd like to do things we don't have any money. I mean, it's something else. So, you're right, Barry, but he does an excellent job for I think he's a great employee. I mean, absolutely. He's just but I don't know
if we utilize him in other areas, you know, even more so. I'm not going to disagree with you there. He, you know, he's our safety guy now and he's he's really doing a really good job there, too. I mean, he's he's actually following all the rules and following
all the rules. That's a good Well, we weren't before though. We just we there was a lot of rules we weren't following and he's actually doing he's so But yeah, I don't know. Compliance probably has been Yeah, compliance. Yeah, that's
following. Um, Jetson. Uh, the building. There's two buildings down there. Are they both EDA buildings? No, one's impound. Just the just the Becker County Extension building. There's an impound Becker County impound and that's owned outright by Becker County. By sheriff's department. Sheriff's
Well, by the county. By the county. They're both owners. Um, then I don't know if I said this, but we went over our audit. There was no concerns. Um, as uh, Commissioner Hansen said, we had uh, planning commission. Just an update on that, we do have a resignation
from Nick Bowers on the planning commission. So, we do have his position to fill, which is in Commissioner Hansen's district. Um, Barry and I had our benefits committee. There is an RFQ going out for health insurance. Family insurance and the price of it was really
the hot topic of the meeting of what can we do to really get the family insurance price down and I'm not sure what that answer is. What um what's the name of our bro our gentleman helping us with that? The broker. The broker Steve. Um we're gonna
stick with with this his that same company another round. Um we were I I think there was a little bit not quite as much satisfaction in um their followup on questions for employees when the employees had questions concerning
the benefits. Uh they weren't um as forthcoming with any correspondence that that we would have liked. So we're going to let them know that we want better because that's their role to answer these questions when when needed. Um, so we want that relationship to be
better or if we don't if it doesn't improve the next time we will be putting out an RFQ for new broker I think or possibly looking at it on our own. But I think a broker can can broker a better deal for you. Y um in the in the in the first part of it. So that's I mean they
can go back and forth and answer those questions real quickly. So um Mr. Chair, uh just one thing uh thank you Eric for bringing that up. Um Nick Bowers is retiring for the plan in his own. Is that my responsibility to look for replacement or is that Well, there's
nobody knocking on the door typically to be on the pl you have to do all the work and make sure it's it's advertised so people can can put their application in through the county, but quite often it ends up to be you have to go out and twist arms. Okay. And get someone that
you think would be decent. I remember on the board of adjustments it was a challenge. Yeah. When when will that appointment happen? Is that as soon as you get it? As soon as you can as for a We'll have to ad Yeah. Well, for a vacancy for a vacancy, I don't think we have legally carry I don't think we have
to advertise for a vacancy. Uh but I think that's we always do. I mean I think we always have No. No. Okay. So, I got a little time. Yeah. Okay. So, it'll be it'll be vacant till you fill it then. I mean, you I'm just saying it won't there's no there's
no waiting time that you have to do, I don't think, on a on a resignation. So, whatever whatever works for you. Mr. Chair, if I may, um I know you referenced the um the broker, the medical broker. I just wanted to just update there is an internal meeting uh with the broker and the next up
supervisor as well to talk about our expectations and and our concerns of communication. So, that's good. Okay. Then lastly, well, not quite lastly, but almost lastly, um I had uh Mahubi meeting. They have put out their annual report. So, I just wanted to to
talk about a couple highlights. Um they did purchase some land in Ottertale County and are moving forward with um a tiny home community. I don't know if the board remembers, but there was originally land that they were looking to purchase in Becker County um that was not well received by the community.
there were some other issues and then I believe the the land owner um it ultimately finally backed out but they have purchased land so they will be building a tiny home community community which really is geared more towards veterans so but they they will be um our
Becker County veterans can utilize that service so I think that's an exciting thing coming up up for this region um and then just some other highlights that Mahubi did so These numbers don't aren't specific to Becker County, but they are
specific to the the five counties that Mahubi serves. They assisted 40 41 families working towards a good paying job with our SNAP employment and training program. They helped 1,323 individuals file their taxes through their volunteer tax program. 407 people
enjoyed um improved energy efficiency in their homes through the energy weatherization team. Uh their Head Start program served 418 pregnant women, infant, toddlers, and preschoolers with quality healthy nutrition, mental health, coaching, and educational
experiences. And they provided housing assistance to 195 individuals experiencing homelessness to find uh safe shelter. So that's Mahovi. The only other thing we had, of course, was the financial planner, which I am
looking forward to his plan and input. That was all I had. All right. Who would like to go? Um um benefits committee. We um we discussed that with already. So I had a joint powers meeting and that's the
joint powers of the the it's the Red River Basin Committee that we have a joint powers with. Um that's the tour. I think you all got an invite to go on the tour tomorrow. Um they're going to go down to Manson Slooh and and it's a full day tour. the red base and it's the red board's tour and they've asked if anyone
else because there's they had some extra seats so they asked extending those out to and I thought maybe maybe Phil might want to Binky's is interested in that but he's busy so um I probably wanted I didn't reserve either but I thought if you were going to go maybe we could go
but sounds like you're busy I've been to the on this basically the same tour already looking at the manston and um so We I also went to so had a soil and water meeting. They I'm going to I'm going to forward Carrie the report that
because they do a real nice report. Their employees give a report to their board and um I'll just have that you can read that report from each employee, see what they're up to. But um obviously tree orders were one of their big items this last go round and I think they have have a few trees left if anyone's
interested in um I think they have some potted trees left. So Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson, I think we got that report. I I saw that a month ago or the last meeting. Oh, but they soil and water. I think I saw that. Okay. Well, they do it monthly then. So, this will be for this for this last one. I'll
forward it and maybe you already get it. So, you don't have I don't have to resend it. But, I think we do get it. I think we do. It's uh it's it's real interesting to read. So, I won't bother you with that. Um and at the soil and water board meeting, Buffalo Red um administrator Christine and uh
Bennett with with uh Houston Engineering came I think it's Houston and gave gave a little update on the project that they that we've had some discussions on. Um the the upper red um gave a little presentation. Um, I asked some questions
about if that blowout of the river would have happened wi without this ditch. And um, Bennett thought he said he could comfortably say that it would because what happened is it's back back eroding. Um, but I do question if that was just a
natural occurrence because the fall there is so great. Once that cuts, it's it's it's going. It's and it's so I don't know if you're aware the project is building some huge levies to stop that from breaking over again. And if the water did get up that high, it would
break over the whole thing, not just one spot because it's all the same height. So they figure that would cause it so it wouldn't erode. Um I'm actually um Jerry Van Amber wants to schedule a meeting with me and then Bill Stef is our appointment about the project because um
they're thinking that the project may be dead if we don't if Becker County doesn't support it and this time I don't think we do or at least I don't and um so they want to try to save the project. Um, Bill Stefel did make a motion at the meeting to go move forward with the
project with it being without being the special taxing district. Um, so that and that failed on a 3-2 vote. So, um, I think that's in in my opinion that's a a appropriate way to fund this one because it's such a huge project and it benefits
the whole not just it has no benefit to the people that are actually being paying for it. So, um, so we'll see where that goes. Mr. Commissioner Nelson. Um, if you ever go up there, I would like to see that. Um, I we have if we we have to make a decision. You want
if if you want, you're welcome to sit in at 11:00 on th or did I say 10 or 11? On Thursday, we're going to meet here. Um, Bill Steel and and me and then the engineer and then um Jerry, he's a board member for Buffalo Red. If you if you're
interested, what time did I say that meeting was? 11. You said 11 10 10 a.m. We were 10 a.m. Y. So, um Dave and I had the sheriff's committee.
Um as you know, as we looked, we decided on that we're not looking we were not interested in purchasing land at this time and we just we didn't discuss it. that that was um part of the thing and part of our the and we had Klein McCarthy there talking about design of
the of the current of the impound building. Um we kind of went through some of those concerns or what some of the things and at the end of the day we said we have my opinion is we have to wait to see where our where the state comes in how much our levy is to
determine what we both agree what um where how fast or when we move on this. It's right now we're in such such big questions on how much our tax levy is going to be. So, we kind of just held off on that and said, "Let's wait until legislation's over and then we can look
again." And and uh Scott from Klein McCarthy was real good. He said, "Whatever works, um just let them know." But the bill, if we get this architecturally designed, which we have to have, I mean, I don't know. I don't know any way around not
having an architect sign off on on the structure to get this competitively bid. You know, even though we don't want it extravagant, you still have to have be fair to to move forward. And and that total bill was 7 about 73,000 for
architectural fees. Um but we're looking at a um probably about a one one and a half 2 million three you know the if initial estimate was 4 million for a steel or for a concrete or steel wall. So um so we're still thinking about
that. We could get it um build ready for about 43,000 I think designed and ready for bid. But you can't you don't do that until you know for sure you're going to build it because um if you wait a year, you got to go back in and check any any
new codes that come in and it'll cost you more money. So until we're ready until this board's ready, then we we just kind of sit in that that um holding pattern. Carrie's going to go over STS, I assume. So I won't won't
bring that up. Um we got the squad cars and a deputy resignation on the agenda. So, yep. Um, yeah, that resignation, we had a resignation and that will not come before us because it was all like the board discussed earlier or made a motion to it's within budget. We're not. So,
yeah, the whole the new position would be within budget. I think let's see, Sunnyside, I think Dave and I had Sunnyside. Um, we had the audit very, we have very good audit. We, you know, one question we didn't ask is where we compare with other nursing homes our size, but I think we know we are at the
top. one of the top ones. Um our our fiscal year ends September 30th, I think. Yep. And um and our we were positive in that year and we're positive this year in the tune of uh over a hund I mean I don't
have the number on me right now but 160,000 positive. So I mean we are doing well. Um there are concerns for the future of nursing homes too with the state and federal budgets. Um, I think we mentioned this before, the possible hurt with some of this
funding cuts would would impact us, but we think we can, you know, as Sunnyside, we certainly feel strongly we can weather the storm. Um, and I think we can still positive for the next two years. And in in cycles like this, we things change so fast. We're confident
that we can weather this to see what happens. Um, we also have a over $2 million reserve, which is huge. Um, we're talking about, um, we have some monies that we have to spend by June 30th. So, we're making some improvements. Anything reserve, anything
left, we can pay down our our debt, which is about 580,000 right now. Yeah. And we're actually thinking maybe we just pay that off completely with 2 million reserve. Um, but we might want to keep some debt because then there's some there's some programs that are always beneficial if
you have debt programs. So, that can pay off debt. So, we might pay it down but not pay it off. So, anything to add at Sunnyside? Yeah, there's the the things that they're doing with that money that we have to spend. Um, they're going to remodel one of the tub rooms. Um, they're going to put new carpet in the
facility and they're possibly looking at putting a courtyard pave paved courtyard out for memory by the lake for Yeah. And then they'd fence it in. So this is for memory care. Memory care people who can who can actually then get outside and and u Yeah. And they don't have to have
nearly as much supervision. They don't have to have direct supervision when they're in a when they're fenced in. Mr. Chair, how many like I was searching for a better word than fenced in. How many uh how many residents the Sunnyside serve service? We have 28. I think we're
currently at about 28. I think max is 30. 28 residents. Yep. It used to be all double rooms in in the facility and in our our world now they're double rooms aren't Yeah. very rarely do you see nursing homes. Yeah. They don't they don't you don't we have
one double room. We have one double room and that's for the purpose of having built so we can bill more for a single room because if you don't have a double room and I don't think I don't think that you can't have different rates if you don't have a double room. Yeah. And of course, we're never at full
capacity because the double room's never full. Yeah. And then one one other thing about Sunnyside is we paid we were paying a nurse consulting fee and it actually is increasing our revenue. Um I think the one month we paid $8,000 for the consulting fee and it
increased our revenue by 68,000. So well and this consulting fee is properly coding. Properly coding stuff. Yes. And uh we did that at Lakeland Mental Health, too. You increase your revenue if you maximize your coding and and and how the state wants things coded. How it's it's a you do the job. You just
have to figure out how to code it properly. So that was kind of interesting. And they said that will go down as Oh yeah. As you employees learn how to code better. Code better. That'll go down. Yeah. Do you have any? Nope. That's it for except for the thing I forgot I was
going to say. That's good. I remember which I can't remember. That's okay. Richard, I had EDA with Erica and I just want to say she covered almost everything, but you know, as far as our new EDA guy, we we are actually looking
at economic development now, which we never did before. And it's a there's it's a learning process, but we're he's actually geared that way and thinking about it. And so there there is now there's not been a big difference yet. We haven't done
anything yet, but he's looking at ways of promoting business and he's learning. He's and he's really it's it's in it's part it's part of our our committee now where before we were just housing. We never talked about anything but housing.
And so uh that that we are advancing Barry. I I don't have anything to show you on the paper, but well, you know, I I think promoting our area is is part of EDA, obviously, um business promotion
and but I mean I don't think that's I I don't that's an awful big pay payroll for you know, right? Yeah. And and we've got him doing other things, too. I think he's pretty busy, isn't he? He's pretty
busy. He's pretty busy. So, you know, I but I don't think it's I don't think a lot of it is specifically I mean, if you want to expand your word for EDA, I think it's it's we've expanded it quite a bit for him to be paid solely out of EDA. I think we I think he should at
some point be looked at his job roles. If it's not EDA, that then it should come from the general fund rather than ED. I mean I think proper payment where that because we I know I think we rely on him for things outside EDA a lot and
that's but you know is that EDA related or is it not EDA and he's always ready to help. I've asked him to do different things you know what is it digging holes for for you? I'd like to have you there because he's looks pretty he's a lot better shape than I am. Mr. Chair uh uh
Commissioner Nelson, what um EDA isn't isn't it EDA and HA the housing they're both combined? So, you're saying EDA hasn't really No, it used Well, it used to be parks and wreck or he used to be part of other he used to be paid half of
uh parks and wreck and then they do a lot of those, you know, grants and um our forestry can't handle all the grants and the I mean, and that's part of EDA for some of these grant writing and instead of hiring I mean and have your forester doing going to all these
meetings. I think I I think we're having um EDA do that or you know because it's a lot of meeting time for the H Heartland Trail that's not it's not really NRM position. So is EDA trails?
Well economic part of tourism. Yeah. That's how you that's how you stretch it into EDA. It could be because honestly in my opinion ed you know you're trying to get business I mean the only businesses that I think I mean, I don't like EDA helping
business that are going to compete against businesses that are already here. I mean, I don't think that's the role. I think if you're if you're a gas station wants to come in and compete against all the other gas stations, I don't think I don't think there's a role for economic development because it's you're hurting somebody else. I mean,
it's it's businesses that aren't already here or affecting us negatively for businesses. That's that's how I see well healthy competition is good for us too though you know I mean that does make you know I I don't believe the
government should be involved in healthy competition as far as well let's get another gas station here so we can get lower I don't think that's our role I I think that would be that would be I don't think we need any more gas stations that as an example you can't and I'm not sure that you know but
certainly but that's that though If if someone's if there's a product that's out there being charged overcharged, someone's going to come in and and do that. They don't need they don't need government's help to see that. I don't think I don't know how you pick and choose which one you can support. I I support new business and business growth
in our community. And so I don't know how you but I do but I do think as far as our current EDA you know we have been as Richard said really focused so much on housing and our housing contract and our meetings have been consumed by just housing and and we really are trying to
put that in our the management job or management's role. that's what they should be doing and the housing com subcommittee kind of helped facilitate some of that so that at our EDA meetings we can talk about economic development
and I think we're we're going down that path but as as Richard said we don't have um you know the money right now to to figure out what to do but but that I I think we have some really good ideas are you being sparked you you mentioned
you mentioned the EDA bu the extension building or that EDA are looking at renting out the back space then I I think I mean I I think it should I mean it's vacant and I don't think having two meetings a month in there is serving us well. So if we're not going to and it
yeah that's what he he his idea to y to try and start for somebody to maybe could start a a business there get something started and we could maybe help somebody that way. So well and it's been empty since I've been here and he's the first guy to come up with that. Now,
I don't know if that plan the workshop used was in there. So, yeah. But yeah, I I think Cody can explain it best what kind of what his thoughts are. So, yeah, I would say that'd be a good idea to have Well, I think I think it's a space where I mean, I don't know that we have
we should be selling it right now, but now at some point maybe we look at that when we but certainly that space we need to if we can generate income, that's our goal. And if we can rent that out short term. Do you have any else? Uh,
well, I was just going to talk about STS, but you're talking about STS. I'm in now or later. No, you're better at it than me, so you go ahead and do it. And that's all I got. Okay. So, um, I had a cord actually. Richard, I had courthouse. Richard sign in for Barry.
Um the the there's a couple things that are on the agenda, but we did talk about our UK UKG system and we've had a lot of I don't know what the word is problems, agonizing painful problems. And anyway, so what we came up with is a
plan to we if we're going to not have UKG, it expires on December 31st. So we have and you have to give a 90-day notice. So we have till the end of September. So, we're going to have payroll, uh, the auditor's office. Judy
offered to help with technology, um, and and the and the human resources office to work together to try to figure out how they can make it work better. Um, give it a and I our biggest thing was to give it an honest effort, a goal and see if it we can what what they can come up
with. Um, and then if it still doesn't suit our purposes by then, then we can possibly switch to a different company. Mr. Chair, what is UKG? UKG does our payroll. Payroll mainly our payroll. So it's software. Uhhuh. Yeah.
Software support is what we're lacking though them supporting their software to to be specific to our needs. Yeah. And that's what they're going to try to work on to see if they are able because there were some possibilities that there could happen. Um they're going to discuss
that. Did you have what? Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah, it's for your purposes. It's um all-incclusive payroll software, human resources. So, from hire to retire all the way through information. That's probably a better full package.
Yep. Um so did you discuss the costs of this? Yes, the cost. So the there was there we had a bid we had a bid out, right? or RFQ or so that that was it was it was the the bid was lower but
um the services that we're not using for UKG right now that we're paying for it would probably balance out if we actually if we use those services but we things were not working well so we didn't onboard those services because we didn't want them the same thing to
happen that happened to the other stuff that kind of am I kind of saying that in a layman's way okay so so if we do are able use those services. It actually we should actually be about the same roughly. The same with with with the new
with the the new bid we have we got cuz we are we are we are paying for extra services from other places because they're not we're not using them in UKG but we can use them in UKG if we can figure out how to use the system make it work for us if they support it better.
Yeah. Yeah. So if if in n if at the end in within 90 days the end of the year so and and say we switch where's where's the is it kind of cash neutral? Yes. Yes it is. So it's not going to be like we'll be sp paying more we'll be paying
a different company. Yeah. Monthly fees that would be similar to what we're currently paying. Yes. And the UKG fees were being um taken out of special general. So it's a cost that we're going to have to budget for. We're currently not budgeted for her.
All right. So, I had one thing on transit. Um, we just so our local contribution is going up to 10% for the for next year and and Kevin had explained that precoid we were at 15% local share. They dropped it down to
five. Um, and now so he's pretty sure at then that following year probably go back up to 15% again. But our riderships will cover that. our writership fees will cover that cost of the of the less of the less funding by the state and federal government. So, we're not we're
not too concerned about that increase. Where's our ridership fee per ride compared to other counties? Um, we are he's we we asked him that question. We're kind of right in the middle, I'd say. Yeah. Most and and some of the counties that have a couple of the
counties that raised their fees didn't have an issue, but there were a couple that did. Their riderships went down. um it may not be attributed to that but they they don't know for sure but um he was the wrership. So the issue with the wrership fees we can we can
raise them and and our writership is is relatively cheap right now but the problem is is if you if you increase your reserve too much there's a possibility that the federal government will decrease the funding and so that they'll expect you to use more of that reserve for funding. So that's you got
to have the balance. Now there's also some question question like Kevin said that they don't officially allow you to spend money that the reserve money for buses but they have recently allowed you to do that. So he's going to try to get concrete confirmation that we can spend
that money on like our our share of the buses we the new buses that we purchase. Um they have allowed it but they haven't allowed it like officially that that makes sense. He has a he has a letter that says yes you can do it. Mayor, we just it just I saw transit budget just
dropped. Did we just pay for that bus? I saw Yep. Yeah. So, I saw that was big drop. And uh I think that's all I I don't have anything else. So, anybody else have any other reports or correspondence? Oh,
we're two minutes early on ours. I don't know. So, any appointments? Oh, Phil, thank you. I think Phil talked at least actually. Uh, do we have any appointments? All right. So, let's move on to our county administrator. Thank
you, Mr. Chair. Just a couple of things to report on just as a reminder. I know we talked about this earlier. Um, the AMC district meeting is this Friday at 8 in Fergus Falls. I'm not sure who is planning on attending. Um, one, two. I probably will. I was I was contemplating
just because the legislative session's not complete yet, but maybe I want to go and Right. And the agenda came out. I I assume all of you probably got the agenda. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And Jenny Mojo is is running for second vice president. Yep, she is. I don't think anyone's
running against her. Uh there was one person that filed in December of last year that's running against her. Oh, really? I did. I don't know who Unless that person dropped out. I I can't remember who it was, though. Um, I did get la the end of last week from Ryan who was here on our work
session with regards to our financial planning. He put together a document. I can certainly share that with you if you're interested. But he just um compiled the survey information and all the information from all of you as well as the department heads and uh talked
about next steps and where he saw some of our strengths in our budgeting process as well as um some areas to focus on. Um I it's a three-page document, so I'm not going to read it to you, but I can certainly send it to you if you'd like. So he and I are working
on uh next steps in that process. And so I did have a department head meeting um yesterday and so we did I did share this with the department heads and um we talked about this and um overall I think they saw the experience as positive and
helpful and the one one thing that did come out of the department head which I fully agree with is you know messaging to as we are wait awaiting state you know budget information and and where this counties and how to proceed with budgets
um what kind of messaging we should be doing, you know, with all of our employees because, you know, what I don't want to do is have them hearing information here and not have heard it before. So, I am um taking information from the department heads and trying to come up with some kind of a messaging
plan out to our employees, whether that's an email or what have you. But I think um yeah, so it doesn't cause uh chaos. Mhm. So, that came from that. Um, let's see here. What else do I got
on my list? The next thing is the STS, which you guys have all referenced. We've talked about the STS program in the sheriff's committee as well as in NRM. Um, we did get noticed that, and again, it gets it's quite confusing when one talks about it and I know we talked
about it some in finance yesterday as well. So, we have IQIC um who are the state prisoners that are in prison that come here and are housed to do work and there's a crew leader for that. Um we also have a state STS crew leader
and then we have our county STS crew leader. So, we got three different people. So, what we know is the state has sent notice that the state STS crew leader position has been cut. So the funding funding, not the position. Yes.
The the person has been given a term notice they're no longer here and the funding. Yes. Um so that position so pretty much was focused within um the an NRM environmental out at the MURF and al also out uh half and half of their time
doing trails and and uh those types of things 20%. So that position is 20 hours. Did I say 20%? I did. I said I said that too. 20 hours split time. So um so that position is no longer here. So NRM talked about that yesterday in
finance as well. So really what they're going to have to be looking at is how are they going to cover ours out at the MURF because they have some potential they have the IQ crew leader there but there's no backup for that. They do have some staff that are trained to oversee
that. So again, um really the direction was is that through NRM just to really look at you're talking environmental, not NRM. Oh, god dang it. Sorry, I'm saying 20% too. 20 hours. Cuz I'm like, did I miss the meeting? Oh yeah, sorry. Did I miss my meeting? We're at the wrong meeting. Sorry. Yes,
environmental. Um so really what Steve is going to be looking at is what are the options on how to look at covering those types of things. And then one thing that Steve also mentioned was um how much will the state allow a county
employee to supervise the equit crew? How much time? I think I think Shane brought that up that we should probably try to keep the STS program alive and then pay for that. So I mean there because then you will be allowed to have
STS. I mean we have to still label STS even if it's county paid. Mhm. to get those those inmates that qualify for it. And there's not a lot. I think at that time there was one that qualified. I mean, so but for the county Yeah.
county. So for the county position, um the portion that we were getting for payment for that position allocated was 26,000 grant from the state, which is no longer we've got notice that that's no longer going to be there. So that funds our our county STS program. And then
yes, there were discussion about what we want to do with that and you're absolutely right. There's not a lot of um individuals in the jail that qualify for the program. I think Steve and um he can certainly speak to this had gotten some information late yesterday, you know, because the question really has
come up. Um he has some staff within um the MURF that can potentially supervise inmates and and if that's allowable and I think the answer was yes. Correct. real short. Okay. So, I don't know. SDS. Not aquick.
No. Yes. Okay. So, there was some some discussion about our state SDS and whether or not that could back up our EQUIC. And so, there's just a lot of ruling parts. So, I I'm not necessar I don't know that we have any real solutions on the table, but there's been
a lot of discussion about these programs. Yeah. Steve, I was just breaking down talking to USC about that and I think we're going to try to on there and they're still waiting
through the budget. There's still a lot of confusion as far as what they're going to allow or not, but we might try to reach out to them, see if we can get some sort of agreement allow us to use STS or get some somebody that works
for the county train for the backup as backup or Mr. Chair. Steve, come up. is the DOC I mean could they use could we use DOC people those are different than state
SDS inmates right those are different people but could we use them to get their hours is that what you're exploring well there's two issues you're talking about one is on the
thequick crew are all state inmates and they can do different things the the STS program are county inmates. They're generally short-term. It might be a week or two or whatever it might be that they might be with a STS or uh STS uh supervisor and they can
do different things as well. What we need is for that IQ crew, we need a supervisor that can take them out and do different things. Those two programs don't mix. You don't mix
state and county inmates together at the same time. Now, in some counties, they use justwick and they might go out and do parks and wreck. They might because they don't we use ours at our recycling facility for the most part, but that'd
be something we could explore. That would be a a bigger conversation on what we want to do with that or how many inmates we could get. That's that's a whole different thing. I I'm saying are the Department of Corrections that Rubenstein came in here. I mean, are those the same batch
of that? That's a different sentence. Those are ones that are released from jail under supervision, but they're charged. Well, is that a possibility? So, Rubenstein oversaw that and he oversaw the state STS program
that that's what no longer that which is no longer here. So those the STS and IQUIC are parallel programs within the Department of Corrections, but their focus is different. So I think you're referencing the new
program that they have up and running for early release for those that rather than have them housed in jail that they're under supervision. So that's some conversation, but there um that I've started with with uh Rubenstein and basically, you know, it's never been
done before. So, it would be um really thinking outside the box to try to utilize some of those individuals that are on pre-supervision to do some of this work, but I don't know. So, we're exploring though. We have two employees then that are the funding is the partial
funding is not moving forward. Is that correct? There's two employees that are impacted by this. So both the county and the state SDS program and each each employee I think what Brian said was about 20,000 annually the more 25 I think but
the one employee was not a county employee right that's correct it was one county employee one state contract so the state contracted person is just going to drop he's gone he's done I thought we paid for them I thought
thought the county supplemented that 75%. We they the contract that we had with them was bought down by 25%. So we were paying like $77,000 a year for that one contracted
position. But that position is is gone. That contract is gone. That's that's the state IQ or state STS program position. That's the one that works 20 hours at our recycling facility. and he was working with parks and recre. So we had
county dollars invested in that person 77. So we still have 77% that's been budgeted. That's correct. So we could take that funding and make make our other one which was 75% county funded already also. So we've lost to 26,000
from the state on the county. We So if we increase that employee up to full-time up to 100%. From 75 county payroll to 100% county payroll. We're still within budget. Yes.
Yes. And we need somehow to find another super way to supervise some of your individuals. Is that correct? If that's true, if the state will allow that, which I I think there something will work. and work out in the next couple weeks. So,
for now, we want to we're looking to continue the one county employ the one employee as a move to full-time employee. Is that what we're looking for? At least till the you know, until the end of the year. I think that I think that's one of the things. Yeah, that's critical that we have that. In
the past, we've actually hired assistance in the summertime. So, we want to cover we want to cover the 26,000 for the county SDS that the state is not covering. That's That's what you're saying. Yes, that's the first question. Yes, that's the first one. I I do we do we do we want to could do that
now anyway? Well, I Yeah, I think there's a lot to this, but I think that I think we need to address that today. Yeah. And I think we have the money is in that budget. I mean, we still have it just slides over from the other one that we're not funding, right? No, you No,
because the state Well, it won't it won't my terminology it's not sliding over. this position's gone for the rest of the year. So there's a cost savings of half a year of a of 75% employee from theQUIC from the state
contract. Right. So that so that county support is no longer going to be paid for that position. That's correct. Those are funded through environmental and NRM. So contract so technically we have half I hear the argument. Yeah. We have half
of 75%. Both of those are budgeted. So the argument is you don't want to pay for that out of your budget. You want to pay for someone else can pay for that out of their budget. We definitely need that labor to work in those those different capacities that they were doing that
person that's gone. Somehow I got to backfill that labor requirement which is obvious. So Steve's protecting his money and his he's always protecting his money. It's like this. So, so do we want to does anybody want to make a motion
to pay the $26,000? Not 26,000. It'd be half that because we're half the year. We have we got Have we got all I mean that I don't know. You're not You're not paying 26,000 to to pick up the remainder of what the state covered for
a county STS person. Write it that way. Yes. And how would we where would we pull that money from? You I think you need to identify where you're bringing that money from. reserves. I mean, you can say reserves if you want or you can say for if there's any in the opioid or if there's
any in the um white earth um those designated funds though. No, not not white earth opioid funds are designated for something. But the white earth fund the white earth would be that's about down to $19. $19. Yeah,
$19. Well, it will be get that cleared out. Um, there is general. Is there any general? You know, and that's what's confusing because you look at our our monthly statements and there's $890,000 left in our general
revenue and how much we have committed left there. You know, the is the Bearcat out of that? I mean, it's it's allocated. I mean, I think well allocated or is it is it paid? I mean, those are the I mean, I
think we need to be a little bit more informed on where we are in those funds because you look at that and I'm like, we got money here and money there and and I know some of it's allocated, but it's been a been a couple month or should probably see what's Okay, just
just keep us a breast on what's what those are. But I think it'll it'll be about 12 $13,000. I think we need to do that and if we need to spend it out of reserve this year till we figure out the funding of it and it it should be 13 if the state pays it
that I think that's part of the issue is we're not sure what the state is paying I don't know what they're going to pay for to the county STS program like you said if it's been half a year will they pay half of that date but that well
let's guarantee it at least through the end Labor or through the 1 October. I mean, just so we and then we'll have a better understanding of our long-term. Hopefully, we have a finalized budget by then. Yes. October. But that gets us
through the summer. We we need to have that person fulltime through the summer and then we can review and most likely through the end I mean through the end of year and continuing. But so continuing as is as the STS till the end. Is that what fully fully fund that position till the end?
You want to end the year? end of the year. I think till the end of the year. So, do we have a motion to fully fund the STS county position till the end of the year using reserve funding? So, moved. So, we have a motion. Do we have a second? A second. So, have a motion by
Erica and a second by Barry to make up for just put include there to make up the state short funding shortfall or elimination of state funding. Is that good with you? In response to the elimination of state funding. Okay. So, do we have a motion in a second? Do we have any discussion? Mr. Chair, what
will the dollar amount be for that funding to get us to the end of the year? It should be 13,000, but it could be up to 26 if the state supplement the first half of the year. Carrie, yes. What' you say? I said depending on we if we've received any of
the funding at this and I don't know the answer to that. Okay. 26 The total would be 26,000 at the worst case scenario. Up 226 up. Well, they and then we're going to have to revisit this topic again then at the end of the year. Correct. We're going to have to probably We're probably going to revisit
it a few times. We're going to have to revisit it pretty soon because of the situation. I just have to say I mean I'll go along with this for now, but uh I'm very confused as to STS, IQ, county, state funding, NRM. So, um, we need to
keep this on the front burner so we can understand it before the end of the year whenever things become clear, I guess. And and we may have to do some changing. Yeah, we might on how it all works to to make this work out. But I agree that we
we need to we need to do this now so we can keep keep everything going here through the summer. Uh, and this is the position that we just got we just started getting reimbured from the state DNR for about 19,000 access because we're maintaining their
accesses. Y so we do have 19,000 from the but but that's already in our budget. It's already it is but so so we have a motion and a second. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right, Mr. Chair. So the next item um Thank you, Steve.
Thanks, Steve. Um, that was actually didn't make it into the packet, but it was sent out via email. And this was just for information. I was just trying to get enough information to answer the question whether or not our old jail space could be remodeled and whether or
not it could also include a third floor. So, that information, and again, I'm not looking for any action. This was just for information. Um, what the potential costs, you know, would be if we were to look at utilizing that space. I don't well I don't think I know we haven't
made any final decisions about who what where any of those types of things but I thought this was good information. I did piggyback with the um the gentleman that was here uh working with Steve and environmental so I took took the opportunity to have him walk through this while he was on site. So this is
again just for your information. Any questions? No move. Okay. Um the next item that I have um is a budget. As you all know, there hasn't been a lot of again additional information from the state of where the
state budgets are. Um as of yesterday, I had heard um and Denise had confirmed she also heard that again one of the things at the state level, we've we've talked um extensively about cost shifts for human services and potential impacts to the county that that may have. And
now there's been some discussion again about uh revamping that again. So again, it's really kind of anybody's guess um at that. And I know I'd been asked by a few of you as far as what we're anticipating for payroll costs for 26. So I did work with Mary and we've got
some very rough numbers of what our total payroll potentially is for 26. Um if you all recall, we have a in contracts 3.5% COLA. a majority of our staff are in the step systems within the grids which is equates to about 3% as
they move each year. So that's um um look looked at and again our health insurance potentially we may be going out for an RFP for that. We don't know um however again just uh best estimate um increase in insurance and adding that
all up. We're probably potentially looking at a payroll of uh $35.5 million next year. Um with that, the thing that we do not have the final figures on it still being worked on is our um our payroll, our position allocation. What
that tells us is within human services in those payroll positions about how much of those positions is actually uh reimbursed versus uh levy dollars. And so we we don't have that to compare.
And that that's about a $2 million increase from last year, right? That's what we discussed yesterday. Roughly. And I I would like to say I think it's high. Um that's that's my hope. But again, it's just very rough. You just kind of wanted an idea of where we might
fall. Um any other questions? Yeah. So So did I hear you say right? So, our payroll with grant funding and what the levy pays is 35. That's the total. That's the total.
The next item is, and we've talked about this um in the past, and we did we I think one at least once, if not twice, is um the direction of of all of all of you what you would like to how you'd like to proceed or not with a rental
space for the sheriff's department and all of their equipment. Um after we discussed this initially, then I was notified that they um did it is uh for a response to an RFP for bid on the rental space that the sheriff's office was
interested in. I believe that's due tomorrow. Um I can certainly respond to that, but I do need some direction from you as far as price of what we would offer if that's the direction we want to go. You know, how how much is it a month? Well, you're supposed to respond
and tell them how much you want your How much were we thinking? Do we have a idea? 2,700. 2700. Here's what I'm wondering. Because this is an indefinite thing. We don't know how long. We we could build something
somewhere. Maybe not maybe not what but you know and and reuse it for something else. So whether it's sell sell it or something, but for $2,700 a month, if it's going to be a couple years or I don't know how long it's
going to be before we get them the space they need, I do want to get all this equipment in one spot in case I don't want to see somebody lose a life over somebody not being able to find something. But I don't know why we wouldn't. That's a big monthly payment
if we could be build if we could build something and pay a payment on something. Um, and there's different ways to do it. I could you I could envision some garage doors like like these storage units are. Um, is there room out at environmental?
There's there is room out there. There's is there room in this? I was over at that impound lot the other day and uh that other building the where the I I can't answer that. Shane would have to Well, I looked I looked there's there's room behind both those buildings.
There's a bunch of cars and stuff in there. Oh, over by extension. Yeah, impound building the impound lot right now, isn't it? Yes. You know, I don't know why I don't know what the deal is with those cars. Um, but I mean we have room there to build something. I don't want to just
rent something for It depends on how many how long we're going to do it. Do we have any idea how long we'd be renting this? I'm looking at you and Dian. I would I would say I would say that if you're if if this board is still on board with moving forward with the impound
building, I would say we would piggy back on the timing of the finishing bond payment of the courthouse. I mean, I think that's the key. I don't think we want to see an increase in bond payment when we're in such difficult Absolutely not. When is
that? Uh February of 27. But there's also we also could uh postpone that bond to start till and the you know after the other one's done. We might have to wait till the very end. You could time it so your payments start
or maybe just an interestonly payment. If you do it in if we build the building in 26 the payments would then you would start payments in 27. So I would assume a year from now you would ideally I
would think a year from now you would have have the impound building built. You would have started construction or maybe at least started construction and it would probably take I would say this building will only take 2 3 months maybe 6 months to build. I mean it's not a I
think the max I think the way I when I looked at it I think the max amount we would rent it for would be 18 months. I don't I don't think there's any I don't think there's any way we're going to build another building for temporary storage of the products we need to build a building. I
I there's no sense in that with having some other I mean you're going to a building this size will cost even if you just put a shell up with gravel floor is going to cost you six 700,000. Okay. And so this is what I'm cur and I don't know and I probably should have went and found this
out is we're just storing the emergency equipment, right? Is that what that's what we're talking about here? You're asking what they ask. You want to ask you're talking cuz I I'm I can't picture a 600,000 I don't know what emergency equipment we have that
you know. Well, are you talking about storage or you talking about the impound building? I'm not talking about the impound building. I'm talking about getting them what? Do we have the list? Getting all their stuff in in one spot. We're talking the airboat, the other
boats, the Bearecat, um some spare squads, your your ATVs, your Ranger, your TRA, you know. Yeah. And so like the spare squads and some of that stuff. I don't see that. I said we can they could be parked outside. I mean, you can Well, I don't see that they have to be
even. I'm talking about the emergency stuff. Okay. I need this airboat or I need whatever whatever the jaws of life. You probably don't have the jaws of life. Whatever those things, those are the ones that concern me that they're
not all in one spot. And I can't imagine that we have so many of them that we that we um would have to spend that kind of money on because I'm not talking about anything else, Shane. Yep. I I just want to solve this problem for right now if we can. May May, maybe
maybe it doesn't make any sense, Barry. I don't know. What's this rental space? What's the size of the rental space that we're looking at? Shane, do you have the rental? I don't I don't have those specs. I'm sorry. Bring them in either. I just looked at it yesterday. Um the the rental space would still not put everything in one
building. No, we'd still have m, you know, a couple buildings that our equipment would be in. And ultimately we're looking for is that one-stop shop that, you know, we don't want confusion when, you know, the pedagon goes off and there's a, you know, snowmobile crash up on a trailer, an ATV crash or a
drowning, we go to the wrong building, then we have to drive across town to get to the other building to get our stuff. You know, we want everything in one spot. That's kind of our one-stop shop. Um, you know, I think you touched on most of the big items. you know, the command post, the Bearcat, um the we're
we're getting the airboat back. We've had that with Detroit Lakes Fire Department, but unfortunately, they're getting a piece of equipment. They've outgrown their space, so they said we don't have space for airboat anymore. It was a great they did a great job with it, and we love them having it because of their quick response. Um but yes, getting a lot of that stuff inside. So,
you're talking the air the command center, you're talking the trailer center, the trailer command center. So, you have two items there. You have the airboat, Bearcat. Bearcat. Bearcat and and two or three snowmobiles and snowmobiles and ATVs and UTVs. Yep. Uh
and then the the trail the the the emergency vehicle that goes on the a rescue sled. Yeah. Yeah. That um you know, and there's Sorry. So the building served two functions. One was the sheriff's office equipment, you know, our emergency response equipment. Um the
other side of that was going to be so the jail our transport vehicles out at the jail frequently have dead batteries. They sit outside. There's nowhere to plug those in. So as to get those indoors as well as you know that we don't have to wait for them to warm up to transport inmates, things like that. Some of that equipment just does need to
be inside and temperate for usage. Um, you know, the other thing is we're we're constantly fighting dead batteries and, you know, having place even on our spare cars, we fight that issue of having dead batteries that they're, you know, ready to go. You know, if somebody crashes it,
you know, we don't have to bring it to a shop, get a battery replaced, things like that. We want we need that equipment ready to go and that's so that's some of that needs for us. Um, you know, I know that's the decision you guys have to make, but that's that's the reason for a lot of that. Um, the So,
there was kind of two sides to that building. The emergency response site, the jail equipment. Obviously, we're talking about STS. Uh they've got, you know, uh a lot of you're talking lawnmowers, things like that. The new impound building. And Tana explained that very well to us. The reason you
have the a wall separating and and if we could rent a couple boat slips to or boat areas for DNR is because it's secure and very and not as secure. So we have STS can go into the non-scur gab equipment and do something where in the
impound area it's much more you have to track everyone who goes in that building if there's any evidence in there at all. So that's why there's two e for the impounds. This isn't for the storage space. But so what I'm looking at is
because we we're in a budget situation here. Okay. We that command center, you know, we're not going to lose that. We can put that somewhere and everybody should be able to know where that's at. You know what I mean? There is but we we just did our drone trading and had dead
batteries with that again. Yeah. Couldn't remove it from We property. Had to get it jumped. And so I mean those are those are the things Shane we talked about that that's a disconnect switch. Okay. Would that we have a disconnect on that? Well then there's then it needs to go to a mechanic because I have
disconnects on mine. Mhm. And when I want to use it whatever it is I walk up and flip it and it starts. So there's another issue keeping it inside won't change. One thing on batteries, you want to I mean batteries should have a should be plugged in and have a maintainer on
them if it's not being used. And the reason is and I I just found this out, but a maintainer a good maintainer will draw down the battery and then charge it back up. And and you could put you can put an electrical post next to it if you really want a maintainer. I don't I I was just telling them some of my
batteries are very old in my equipment. All I have is a disconnect switch and it works very well. And so that's like some of these things that we're not going to lose that. I'm worried about the things that you need in a hurry. And I'm not not talking lawnmowers and SDS or I'm
talking where where where are all these emergency things that we're going to run to and get just because we're in a a really tough financial place to Mr. Chair. So y just to bring this back home. I think we all agree that we want all of
these accessory vehicles in one area. Uh the sheriff's department, you would like them out by the jail because there's a little plot of land south of the jail to build. Yes. Um that's where you would think would the be the best place to build. That costs money. So I mean
that's what we're talking about. Are we going to rent until we figure that out or or we could just have a we could put a small building out there. Not everything you want, but we could put a little building out there by the jail with some garage doors so that we we
don't end up losing it in the end. And your emergency stuff, the stuff that you want to grab that you don't want to be confusion. I get this. It's not over here. It's not over there. That stuff, we could put something in a building
there and not spend $600,000 um for those things. Now, I'm not saying about getting all your other stuff inside right now either. Um, but I'm just looking at if we're going to if we're going to rent
something for two years at, you know, and Mr. Chair, Commissioner Vberg. Um, one thing that had been discussed, um, I don't know where that is at now, but the HHW building out at Yeah. the old hazardous, I mean, that wouldn't house everything, but if you're distinguishing
between vehicles that need a maintainer or whatever on them to start quickly or inside, that is still on the table as far as I'm concern. It is, but we're we're using that right now, ain't we, Steve? Or not? We're still using that. We're still using it. Um, and it would
it would I'm just trying to figure out what we can do short term, Shane, that something maybe we can use long term and handle some of your needs. Yeah. For with the on the emergency side and we get that we get that budgetarily right now. You got a lot of decisions to make.
You know, my only we'd like to at least get it down to two locations. You know, something that houses both locations. I don't know if building a a a building at the jail is a smart move because you know ultimately that space I think we have those needs to do that at some point and you're
spending the money twice then you know and and I don't think you can pick up the building and move it you know I think that based off of that footprint you know the availability of of land there because part of this is the storage building for equipment and then ultimately we want to get our impound lot there so like all those cars that
you were talking about behind the building at our current location you know a lot of those are fatal crashes are crashes that you know serious injuries that you know there's criminal cases pending on them uh DWI forfeiteures um you know um basically they're they're related to you know
crimes that we've had so we store those until those cases are done before we release them. So that's why we need also that impound lot with it. So I don't know that we'd be able to build a building behind there because we'd lose our impound lot then to store those vehicles. So then we'd be looking for space needs for that to fence that in
and you know do something similar. So um you know ultimately I think the goal is to get that all in one place. That road map I think is where you know I think being here today is the question. Yeah, I think we're at a the interim time is
yes um how can you how can we make do till this happens and and I mean the wershed I don't know if they bought the building out a storage building or renting one but um I think you look at all the options and I think I think you you capture all the I mean you're not
going to have it all in one spot unless you rent something unless or you could build but I won't support building a shed just to temporarily house for for a year and year and a half. I mean, I think that's unless you build it on a private piece of ground and resell it. I mean, that but again, I don't know that
that's that's I think, you know, working maybe highway has room for um kick kick some I hate to put Jim out on the limb, but maybe there's some room for a couple chunks there and and transit.
building. We could build three years probably come from state aid. plan to build somebody else building and stuff like that, but I
know we don't need cold storage right now, but we do still have equipment set out and that we build something temporary on our vacant lot. I don't know the size that we need to keep something, but that's pretty central and then be repurposed to the highway after
they use it. Is is that south of the county building? No, it's Yeah, it's the west right west of the just west of it. Got a building. Um, you're paying
2700 a month and that's it's just not yet that it would go on more. I was saying we're going to use your current building. I wasn't going to support either. You know, we should engage Sheriff Gander on this. He's away at training
this week. So, um but you know, some of our fulfill some functions. You know, number one, we need power. Um you know, would be a barebones minimum. It's better than leaving our equipment outside, which we have done in the past. Um, you know, but again, our concern is that, you know,
and I know it's it's it's probably hard to understand, but we we really need that stuff, that equipment ready to go at a moment's notice. So, I mean, having it all plugged in, warm, ready to go, you know, that winter, summer, whatever it
is, we we have to not be concerned with is it going to run, where is it, you know, some of that. That's ultimately where we want to get. So, as long as we don't lose sight of that goal, I mean, we're open to suggestions and how to make that work on the interim between that, you know, um it's it probably
takes a lot longer conversation to kind of piece the parts out and figure out where everything is going to go. Mr. Chair, um I mean, we either leave it the way it is, we rent the city building. If we rent the city building, yeah, there's going to be a cost, but we may figure some things out in the process. Most of
our equipment will be able to be there, or we build something new. We're saying we don't have the budget to build something new. So, I mean, we just eliminated a couple of our options. Or am I wrong here? I think you're wrong. We didn't say we're not going to build new. I think we just Not now. I I think you just gauge it. So, you when the
timing is and and I don't know if if if there's a needed highway for a for a building that will be repurposed after this, then that's a different and it's and you can pay it with state aid money and and uh sales tax money. I think that makes more sense than but that's just
kicking the can down the road. I mean it is but if it takes if it takes more so what you're banking on Phil is that in a year and a half we we have a new building. I don't know if we're going to have a new building for him in a year and a half. So say it's five years and
we're three grand a month. You know what I mean? I This is what concerns me. I like this idea that can we put up a a can we put up a cold storage shed with gravel floor? No insulation for 100 grand, 40 by 60. Um, these are
short-term fixes to a long term. We not really because if you go by the highway department, we have a lot of equipment sitting outside over there. We just do. I think maybe maybe Sheriff Planner could go to a highway committee meeting and and you guys see if there's any
short-term solution and then we as we continue looking at the long-term solution at a at a Can can we do this though? Can we if we make an if we make a bid amount and we get it, do we have to accept it? If you're looking Are you
talking about a building an offer? We make an offer. If we make an offer to rent that facility and we and we and if the city facility and we get it, do we have do we have is there a timeline we have to accept it in? Um I believe if we
bid it that we will pay this much. Is there a is there a time is there asking for a bid to be turned in? Tomorrow. Tomorrow. That's that's the issue. It's tomorrow. The other thing is if this is the solution, you still need to build a
building, you know, and the timeline for that, you know, where that gets us. I mean, I'm I'm assuming you can't snap up a building in two months from today, you know, you could, okay, for at at the highway department or something, you could put up a building out there. You could put a building up. You could spray
foam, but can it get through this little concrete in it, Barry? You wouldn't have to sheet it or anything, but you could spray foam it. You wouldn't even have to heat it. If you if you insulated the ceiling, put a ceiling in it and spray foamed it. It's going to be if it's 30
below outside, it's going to be probably 20 25 degrees in there without any heat. You know, it's it I realize you can do that private sector, but I mean this process, I mean, look at the hoops that we went through with, you know, architectural designs building. If we can store cold storage buildings under a
certain dollar amount, we don't have to go for bids. Okay. It's what is it? 150 175. So I mean if if we put up a building for under that, we don't have to go out for competitive bids. We we can just do it. And and and I don't even
like you said, this building that we're going to rent is still not going to house everything. So that's concerning that we rent something and and didn't house everything that we need. you know, it does get us power and get us everything in two locations with heat
and everything, which which are some of our needs. So, well, let we can we can put in a bid of 2,000 a month and if it they accept it, then we don't look into other options. If they do accept it, then we're good for 18 months. Are we is there a timeline that
of the It's a year lease. Yeah. Thought it was a year lease or something. 2,000 month for one year. do. Um, so is is there like like I asked for is there does it say anything in the
RFP or whatever RFK is RFP I suppose Q or whatever I don't know um that says okay we we have we have submit our bid on time. Is there anything that states that we have to take like they take our offer can we decline it? I don't have it in front of
me. It was in your packet last time. I can certainly look at it. If we if we offer 2,000 a month, they take it, we're better off, I think, than than going through all the hassle of building up. No, I agree. But if they if they decline it, then we no longer have that option.
That's that's a just that just just throwing that out there. So, it's a minimum of one year and I think the square footage you just saw that was 7,200 ft. Did I just see that somewhere? Yeah, there's two. No, I like if the if we can build a building out,
Mr. chair. One of the things with renting possibly, I mean, I'm not I don't know what I'm supporting right now, but one of the things if we did have that, we could see what a sen brings. We could see what what housing those things mostly together would look
like for a year. It would give us some time to come up with a plan with another plan if that is going to happen. But we we have the plan for for the impound building. Mhm. I mean it's it's it's basically now would
be to hire the con hire the architect to to meet with the individual to say specifically how it would be how what areas you you I mean we're at the point where they're ready to design and this is a they said at our last I mean this is a short turnaround on this one. This is not a complex building. So we
technically could be building this summer on that one if we chose to if we chose to. We're ready to make that move. If we want to go full steam on on the impound building, you could be building this summer. The Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson, if if that's true, where are we getting the money and where is it going
to go? I haven't heard that is that money would be bond money that we would bond for in 27. That's another discussion. I I'm not sure I'd support that. Um well, there's no other way to pay for it unless you bond. I mean, there's no there's no pot of money
around that's going to pay for it unless we we can you can levy for it and you'd spike up your levy by yeah 100% in one year or you bond for it and put that out over you know this isn't a huge project over maybe five years. I mean it's not a
our bond payments in that 550,000. This we're talking this project would probably come in at uh you know maybe up to 2 million. So, you know, four to five year bond payment would pay that off. Okay, that answers one of the questions potentially. Where is the site of it? I
I heard Shane the site is I thought you just said you didn't want to do that. So, you want to build the secondary shed there. A temporary building. Temporary building that temporary fix building would not would hurt your looking at that permanent site. Yes. Now, do you have a clear on it? Well,
yeah. I mean, I'm clear. I still don't like, you know, the sheriff's committee, the sheriff's department is ready to bring this commitment to the impound building to this board. They wanted to bring it today. We and we said, "God, without knowing what what we're doing, what the total impact of of the budget
for the state is." I think what what it comes down to is we we can I don't think any of us here like it that we have to spend $2 million, but it's a need, right? Like I mean, we we have all agreed here that it's a need. We need a
new impound. We need a storage where we can have everything easily accessed, ready to use. So, I think are we willing to to pay a certain amount of money to get us there temporarily and commit? I mean, if
if we're going to do this rental space, I think we have to then as a board be ready to commit to the larger impul not coming up. If we're not going to do that, well, then I can tell you the sheriff will make would
Well, if we tell them they have to, they can make do and and have this equipment scattered around. If we want to move forward with the impound building and and move forward and commit to it today, they will. I mean, they won't like it, but they can make do till we get that built. And the building time, I imagine,
would be it might by winter. I don't know if it could be completed by winter or not. I don't know. That'd be a short turnaround, but he said it's not a long commitment if it's the contractor that you'd have that bids it would have to be the one to and we don't want to limit them too much or
your prices go up. Yep. So, I don't know if you're ready to commit to that building if we build architect ready to design right now. I'm not only because I'm unsure of our future and Barry and you're talking you're already you're already bonding
for I mean that's the only way to do it really without and I don't think anybody wants to raise the levy to pay for that all at once. You're talking about a bonding thing that we don't we haven't seen the numbers on that. What's the interest rate going to be? How's that going to what's that going to look like? I mean I'm not ready to commit to that today. I haven't seen anything any
projections anything on that. we could commit to the initial stages of architect and that would cost us in that low 40s and that you would have a project dirt ready. So, so then we're saying keep your equipment scattered for
today and we would move forward with the building, how we're going to pay for that or what it's going to cost. Well, we can that is to be determined. You are it's pretty safe to say, you know, I can throw numbers out there and and estimate your bond. Mary, do you have any idea what a bond is going for now? A
short-term bond like that, I bet you could get for four and a half a bond. That's what I double. I think six or seven. Oh, I bet you I'll bet you a year's wages will get it under six and a half on a bond for a county, aa county. I
mean, our last one was what, three? you know, and that um I'm going to just Google it and see if AI can tell me, but um give a call to um so currently we're leveraged 6%. I
don't know if that's good or bad. Um I know the Prairie Lakes is leveraged up to about 30% which is way too high. um 6% isn't unreasonable, but to add to that, I mean, so the debt service, what we pay to have our jail, what we pay to
have our public works building, which I think we're we're both needed, 6% of our budget goes to just pay off that in what is it 2034, one of them comes off and the other one comes off in 2042. So we are saying that whoever sits
in these chairs in the future, you know, you guys got to deal with that. that that that's what we're saying. Um I I don't think 6% is unreasonable, but do we want to add to it? Well, we're not adding to it because the bond payment will come off of 50 up the courthouse.
Mhm. That's that's the and and just just so you know, when we built the highway building, we got the smart the sales tax money has been sub or helping with roads. We eliminated $550,000 out of the highway's budget
that was going to pay for roads. So, we eliminated that payment to make the bond that payment now is making the bond payment for the highway building that was in their budget already. So, we didn't raise the levy at that point because we were cuz that 550 was going to pay for roads that weren't covered
under CASA. And so we took that money, made the made the building payment, and took the sales tax money to to pay for these roads that weren't covered under county state aid highway funding. I think one of the things that we're I'm
hearing everything you're saying, Commissioner Hansen, but what what is our other option when it comes to the impound lot and storage rent? And I'm not suggesting that. I mean, that that is our other or leave it the way it is. and we all agree that we want these things in the same place. So,
I guess my big thing is is where what you've answered and and and the cost to the future taxpayer of Becker County. That's my big I want to know I want some clarity on that which I don't think we need to make a decision concrete decision on
that today. We have to as a board agree that we want to move towards that or andor the rental space. What are we going to do in the interim? Are we going to move forward have the sheriff's department continue to do what they're
doing or spend 24 to $36,000 a month? Not a month, a year on renting a space. renting a space. Yeah, that's what we need to
decide today. So, if we if if we do if we do decide to put a bid for this rental property, we have to commit to it 12 months. Mhm. I don't I'm not I I don't I I like the idea of Well, I think we need an impound
building that houses everything with with an impound fence and impound lot behind it. [Music] But but as Barry and I talked about in the sheriff's committee, we don't know where we're at, so we pushed it. We've kind of pushed it off. But if the board wants to do that, we can do it tomorrow. I mean, cuz they're ready to go. They're
ready to the architect's ready to go. I mean, just have to make a phone call. I think I think it's hard to pull the trigger on saying yes, moving forward without having all the rest of information as far as the bonds
and the well price. Well, on your price, we I agree. You set your what you want your payments to be and you extend it out. Yeah. The bond is going to replace the current bond we have that in 2020. That'll be done in February 2027. So, it's not it's not going to increase any
more payment to the taxpayers. Just going to continue it. Our current bond of the courthouse in 2027 is going to come off. I don't know when in 2027. You said February. Uh, it was $195,000 payment with a $2,000 interest payment. No. So, Barry, it says it right
here. For which the courthouse remodel, the remodel or and the building. This is the uh the the highway and MURF which were put together, that one comes off in 2042. And the jail bond that comes off in
2037. So, I'm not saying that isn't impossible to do. I'm just saying I would like to see have a little more clarity on what we're doing and what we're setting up the future taxpayer for. The last payment is 195 plus the interest. Well, yeah, that's in 20.
That's because it's partial payment that year in it had been 450. It's 420. It's actually we set that up to to decrease as we move forward knowing that we will have increased bonds in the future. the the last the last um I'm just looking at
Eller's bond site here and and they just listed one and it's the maturity maturity is 2026 to 2020 44 and the coupon rate is from 5% currently and it drops down to four and a quarter
so about a um yield so you're talking about a to true interest rate of 4.059%. So, you owe me your ears wages. She I don't I don't believe there's an official handshake bet. I had a nod like
this. And verbal agreements aren't legal in the state, Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson. So, that that that 6% where you started, is is that does that go up? 5%. It goes down. Goes down. 5%. And what is the minimum? What is the dollar amount? Well, the minimum payments annually were
six between 495 and 665 715. So, I'm just I just pulled up one from it's from Boston, Massachusetts, but the the total total bond was 11,847 60455 at a true interest rate of 4.09
4.059. Now, you can just go on their site and look at numerous ones, but it that's what you that's you're looking at a 4 to 5% interest rate. I would I would like to see a workup on that and what it's going to be and how long we're going to term that out before I could I
could vote for that. Well, yes, but we're not doing you wouldn't even consider doing that now. We have way to commit to it. The only thing you would possibly commit to and I'm not suggesting we do that or not is to commit to the architect on fees to to get a project designed and then then it
goes out to I thought we already had that. No, no, we have not committed any funds to the architect. But if we commit to the architect, we have to really we need to commit to the project because if we don't do it now and do it a year from now, it's going to
change. It's going to we'll have to redo the architect. Well, you won't you won't have to redo the architect. You have to make sure any any changes in code are updated in the plan, which in this one it's not significant because it's it's it's not office space. It's not a lot of
that. But I mean, you you just want to be cognizant that you commit to it right afterwards. And if you're we're committed to it, we're committed to it. So, but I think ultimately are are we ready to commit to rental space because that's
we we we need we need that answer. We need today for tomorrow. Yeah. For tomorrow. Yes. I I I know that they're interchanged and we're talking about long-term and short-term goals, but yes, I do need the answer on the rental. And I know one leads into the other. Where's
that rental money come from? Great question. That was gonna be Do we think we'll the SPA the state will have their answers by our next board meeting? We can't. I'm not going to bet on that. We can't give a rental. We can't give a
a proposal or a bid on the rental property next board meeting. I know. No, I know that. That's the only issue. But do it. Mr. Chair, I thought m Comm Commissioner Nelson's idea wasn't bad. Put in $2,000 there and and and because we're going to need some time by the time the architecture gets out, by the
time we hear from the state, by the time But we do need to revisit this. I we can't do these short term. We we got we got to think more for the long term. This is a short-term thing. That's right. But uh um we need to address this issue. Um
and and and I don't know Shane, you can probably stop me, but I know just thinking of some of the things we haven't spent in the budget, like for example, the the ATV. There's still there was budgeted money for that and we're not going to spend on that. That's probably would make two payments, you
know. I just just randomly saying stuff, but I would have to look at the budget. Yeah, I don't I I don't My guess is it's going to fall into ours, too. And just one question on that payment. Do you know does that include utilities or is that are utilities above and beyond? It does not include and above just so just
the building plus the rent. Yes, that is correct. Well, with the with us not having a short term, I think if we can do it for 2,000 a month, I think that would Okay, that would uh in my opinion for a one-year lease. For the one-year lease. Okay. Is that a motion? Um, I'll make a motion
to to put a bid in for the city's space that Carrie has identified with her handout here of or of two for 2,000 a month for one year term. Okay. Do we So, we have a motion. Do we have a second?
I'll second. So, we have a motion by Barry, a second by Bill. Uh, do we have any further discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I I All right. Motion carries. So, we'll put out a bid for Thank you. We'll see
if it works. All right. I will. So, Mr. Chair, so like that's got cemented floors that's going to have everything together there. I mean, as the architect's design, hopefully if we can get that and the architect's design, I mean, you guys you guys will know what
you want, right? So, I mean, you'll be at the rental space you're talking about. Correct. I mean, to me, I haven't seen it. I was I was at work that day. Uh my lieutenant and sheriff uh did tour and they said it the building looked acceptable for our needs at the time. Yes. Okay. You're talking about the
needs of the impound building. Well, this is a short-term fix, which I know we don't want. I don't even want. But the long term is to do the architectural plan and something. So, you make sure as you're living in that one and you have all your things together, you know what you want in the new building. Or maybe
you already know that. We've been working on it. We've been asking for this for 11 years. So, it's gone through a couple of uh it's gone through a couple of changes. The architect will actually draw in like he did for the highway building. He'll draw in the vehicles in their spots, show the the
room around it, and um show the doors. We had discussions last time about size of doors even and um what the needs are. This will be vetted. quite extensively once it gets to that stage and it's not by people like us, it's by the people that are
using the equipment and how it best like Jim Jim had his whole staff going and re you know what makes the best sense for everything and it worked pretty good Jim. Okay. All right. So we'll move on to Carrie here with number six in the
morning. Um so Mr. Chair in your packet you have resolution 1D. This is for um this was talked about last board meeting and and voted on. Mary had asked for a resolution um in the packet. I already referenced I spelled done.
It's correct now, but yeah. Um so I am just looking for approval for this resolution for the acquisition which we have already voted on for the Pelican Watershed building. Mr. chair. Um and Carrie, I would like a little bit
different um wordage in there. Okay. Um when we go to the now therefore be it resolved. Um I think one time is two words, one time payment. Um but then um the last sentence to allow Becker County dismantle in the building, create an
additional I think we I mean I think we just after that instead of I think we have the right to do whatever we want whether we want to or not. Keep the I would say and give up all claims to Dun Lock's park in its to give up all Pelican's current and future claim to
interest or claim interest in Dunlock interest in Dun Lock. They didn't have any claim or interest. Well, they had the building and they keep and I want to make sure that they say that they don't have anything ever again in the future. So do I. So I would like that instead of the allow Becker to allow Becker County.
If we buy the building, you're not allowing us. We do whatever we want with it. You want to keep it for storage for a year? We keep it for storage for a year. Fair. There you go, Shane. We got a storage bill for you. I was I was just making a joke. It's cold storage. All right. All right. So, do we have a motion to approve 1D?
I'll make the motion with the change to give all. So, we have a motion by Barry, second by Phil. Do we have any discussion? I just I just want to reiterate my my position in that I do not think we should do this. We just got done talking about spending additional
money and I don't think this is where we should be spending $30,000. I just wanted to reiterate that. Well, and I'm I I kind of agree with you, Erica, but it is a good deal and we do need the parking there and they it's probably if if we don't buy
them out, they're going to stay there. We do need the parking and that's cheap for that. And if they drop all claims to that area and well I don't know that they had any claims to begin with. kind of they they were in they think they do. But but I but I want to say my what I
had said at the last board meeting that I think we should should still potentially consider is what was mentioned at the last meeting was we would have to make changes to that building to make it work for us to be able to use not remove it
but use additional we'd have to move the garage door so that we could have additional parking. I would like for us to get a quote to see what that would what that would cost to do. That's what we pay him. If it costs 15,000, if it costs 20,000, that's what we pay him. I
think we have this arbitrary $30,000 that I know you guys negotiated down from a larger amount, but I still think they got their $15,000 worth for the
last 40 years, 30 years, whatever it is that they've been there. So, I know we need it. I know we needed um additional parking out there. I just think that we need to consider our other options than just giving them a one-time payment.
Mr. Chair, um they did put uh 16,700 into it, and they were the driving force that made the deal happen, which eventually became a county park. Um but
I duly noted everything you said. I I can't I don't think we're anyone's disagreeing a whole lot, but in any negotiation, both parties feel like they didn't get what they wanted. And I don't think we get got what we wanted, but we got it resolved. And I mean, we didn't
we didn't we got what we wanted, but we didn't want to pay. And and then one other thing, Carrie, will you explain where the money is coming from? Sure. Um the local and tribal consistency fund. So, yeah, it was not I know there was some discussion about it coming out of Steve's budget, but um we would not do
that. Steve's got two come from the local tribal consistency fund. It's a grant. Steve's got two funds that uh we could use. Um one of them deemed was not could not pull that funds from. Is that correct? Um and the other one is down to
about 71,000 which we still has. Yeah. So, so that that's why I can support it today is because of where the money's coming from. Would the local tribal conting whatever fund um would that
money be able to go for rental space for a sheriff's department? I don't think there's a there are not a lot of restrictions. The only restrictions are you can't lobby. Yeah, you can't use that is the only restriction that I'm aware of. Okay. Way to put a monkey wrench in it. We going to vote on this. Oh, yeah. We
have a motion in a second. I'm sorry. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signifi signify by saying I. I opposed. I. All right. Motion carries. Mr. Chair, the last item that I have on um is the CHIPS contract. This uh
contract came about there was a with one of our um attorneys that was contracted previously resigned due to some personal issues and they will be done u Ms. Walker will be done the end of June. So, the individual that has been recommended
to fill in the remainder of this contract um was actually one that was uh expressed interest when we did these contracts previously. We had more we had more interest in the positions than we
did positions. So, I did speak um with Brian McDonald with regards to their um so the recommendation was that we reach out to Miss Norby and ask if if she was interested in fulfilling this contract, which she was and she had previously
expressed um interest as well. Um so this contract goes through the end of the year and then it automatically re renews for one year. Motion to approve. Motion by Barry. Do we have a second? A second. Second by Erica. Do we have any discussion? Okay.
I I have a little discussion, Mr. Chair. Uh $3,000 a month. Now, this is this isn't retainer. This is actual pay. Yes. And they get assigned cases through the court and then they What if there are no assigned cases? Are we still paying this
or? Well, I don't think there's ever been a month. We have a lot of cases. We have Is it three now? Mhm. We have three attorneys. Is there three or is there four? Is this the fourth? Three. Three. Three. Okay. Three. And we're required to provide legal
counsel. Yep. For the parents and children above if we don't have available then they then the judges assign and it's a lot more expensive. Yep. Okay. All right. And they go by the hour. Yeah. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify
by saying I. I. Right. Motion carries. I should also note that that's the same price whether they have one case or 10 cases. 10 15 cases. Well, and I did happen to ask um the exiting U Miss Walker how many cases uh she currently had and she had 10 Mhm. on her case
load. She was asking not to be reassigned additional cases as she's trying to exit. So that'll have to be worked out between the court of where hers are reassigned. All right, Krie, do you have anything else in your I don't, but I would suggest maybe before your presentation, you may want to take a break. Yeah, we I
was going to do that. We're going to take a break till 1013. That's 5 minutes. as soon as we have all commissioners up ready to go. No, no hints involved in that.
All right, we have Amanda and Vanessa, right? Would you guys please come up and or man? Yeah. Thanks for having us. Good morning. This is the So, uh I'm Vanessa Coleman. I am a public health program coordinator for
Becker County Public Health. Uh I am an RN by trade with 20 years of healthcare experience. How many years? 20. No way. Yes, sir. I don't believe I haven't checked your ID cuz you don't look old enough. Commissioner Nelson has about 60 years of experience. I appreciate the
compliment. Uh so I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you about measles today. Um certainly this is a timely topic. As of yesterday afternoon, I had to update this presentation because Minnesota confirmed two cases. So this is a timely topic. Um, so the
goals for today is simply just sharing some information about what measles is, what it looks like, how it could impact our community, what public health has already done, and what we would do in the event of uh positive cases within Becker County.
You can go ahead and go to the next slide, Peggy, whenever you're ready. Was that outbreak or there was a Mall of America case? Correct. Correct. Yes. Yep, that's correct. So, there's um and I have a slide going through that as well. There's um two cases. both are within the Twin Cities metro area. Um they're unrelated to each other. One is
an adult that was exposed through a domestic flight and one is a child and that is who was at Mall of America and we're not sure how that person was exposed yet, but we do know that the child was unvaccinated. Okay. So um to begin with
um we'll go through what measles is. Um so this is a viral respiratory illness. So, similar to what you think of for influenza or COVID, it's going to affect the entire respiratory system. It actually will affect other parts of the body, especially the brain. I'll speak more to that in just a little bit. Um,
this is highly, highly contagious. It is in fact the most contagious disease that we currently know of. Um, it's spread through the air. So, when people are talking, breathing, sneezing, coughing, those droplets go out into the air. actually has the ability to stay in the air for up to 2 hours which is
significant when we start thinking about things like apartment buildings and it getting into the ventilation system. Um it also is spread by droplets. So you sneeze, those droplets fall on a counter, somebody touches it up to two hours later they go eat a sandwich, whatever, they then expose themselves
that way as well. Um it usually resolves in about 10 days. Most people don't have um serious complications or long-term medical effects. Um however it is very severe and deadly especially in young children under the age of 5 years of old
or people who have severe immuno compromise. So those are things like HIV AIDS, people going through cancer treatments, certain chronic conditions or people using some medications especially things like steroids over a long period of time. It is vaccine
preventable. So one dose is given at 12 months of age and that gives about 93% protection. The second dose is given around kindergarten age 4 to 6 years and that gives 97% protection. So that means if you've had two doses you have a 97% chance of being totally fine even if you
were exposed. Um this would impact our community because one in five require hospital support. A quick question. Yes sir. Um so at 97% and you and you are in contact with it. Yes. Can you spread it then? They consider you not contagious
if you are fully vaccinated and still exposed. You would monitor for symptoms up to 21 days because there is a 3% chance you may if you if you aren't if you don't get any symptoms are you contagious? I mean okay. Nope. So if you're fully vaccinated and you're exposed, you don't have to do anything
and you would not be spreading it. Be a carrier then. Possibly. But you're you're shedding the virus less because your body is um the vaccine is working. your immune system's kicking in and killing it off faster than what you would be spreading it. Um it is uh it has a very high rate
of infection. Um so 90% of people who are susceptible or unprotected will develop measles. So if we had 10 people who are either unvaccinated or immune compromised, nine out of 10 of those would develop this disease which is significant um compared to something
like influenza. It is significantly more contagious. can go ahead and go to the next slide. So, how do we know who is immune or protected and who is not? Um, so people born before 1957, it was circulating, they were likely exposed
during their childhood and developed a natural immunity. Um, people who have had a blood test called a m a measel IGG. Um, that's looking at your actual immune levels. If you've had that done and proven immunity, that way you are protected. If you have lab confirmation
of disease, in other words, you tested positive, you are now immune because again, you've developed that natural immunity, you've had documentation of two vaccines, or there's evidence pointing to immunity. So, this could be something like a similar blood test um
for reubella, which is the R and the MMR vaccine. It's measles, mumps, and reubella. If you've proven immunity to reubella, you're very likely immune to measles because they're given in the same vaccine. Um, some people are vaccinated for their jobs and they could provide documentation of that. That
would also be immune. Um, people that are at risk are people who know they've never gotten vaccinated. Maybe they choose not to vaccinate for whichever reason. Um, if they received a vaccine between 1963 to 1967, they may need an additional dose.
Um, and that is because the vaccine originally came out in 1963 and they saw it wasn't providing as good a coverage as what they thought it could or would. And so they did a new and improved version which came out in 1968. Um so those people born after 57
through 67 um they likely might need another dose. Um and that would be a conversation with their provider. They could get a blood test checking that immune level and then determine whether or not they need another dose or certainly if they don't know if they've had a vaccine um they would be at risk
as well. Um certainly infants under the age of 12 months because that is when you can get that first dose of vaccine or again if you are severely immuno compromised because your immune system is not working correctly even if you were vaccinated you're still at risk.
How soon is a if you get a booster like yep say not that I'm in that age group where you say a person is and you you know they did receive it then and you how soon will that new vaccine be act be active? Two to three weeks for it to
kick in and be effective. Yep. So, this is a great time for people to kind of get ahead of this knowing that it is getting closer and closer to home to look at what your vaccine status is and consider getting a vaccine knowing it takes two to three weeks to essentially kick in. I also have a question, not
that I'm in this age bracket here. Would you say is the suggestion just to have a booster or to actually do the test to see if you have immunity? I would talk with your doctor first. Okay. Um, typically I'm going
to what's typically going to happen is they're going to say, "Let's check your levels and make sure because maybe you were exposed at some time as a child and not sure." Um, or your parents don't remember or what have you. Sometimes it's hard finding those vaccine records as adults. Um, so that's usually a good
first step is let's just confirm whether or not you need this and then go ahead and vaccinate after that result. Okay, can go ahead and go to the next slide. Um, so why are we concerned about this? We're seeing decreased vaccination
rates, um, not only worldwide, but certainly right here in our own county. Um, and I think there's a a misconception that measles is not anything to worry about. It's eradicated. We haven't heard about this forever. What's the big deal? But measles is very much so alive and well
around the world. So in 2022, there were 9 million cases worldwide. 136,000 of those died, most of which were young children. Um COVID certainly impacted this. Um that's when we really started to see a decrease in vaccination rates.
Um so the US might lose that elimination protection that we once had and this could again become endemic and which means we're going to see it commonly just like you see common colds and flu. That very well could happen. Um rates in Becker County for vaccination have decreased by 5% over the last 3 years.
That doesn't sound like very much but it really is significant. Um, so for example, the state department of health has a model that projects if you had 800,000 cases and you saw vaccination rate decrease by 10% that could blow up
to over 11 million cases. So a 5% decrease is significant. Mr. Chair, so is that 5% decrease in measles vaccination or any vaccination? Uh this is specific to MMR but we are seeing pretty consistent across the board for
all childhood immunizations. Can go ahead and go to the next slide 28 reported cases. Um so Burke County is in the northwest part of the state. Cass County is where Fargo is, Grand Forks, and then Williams County again in the northwest part of the state. So, our original concern
yesterday um was, you know, we were going to make the point of certainly people in our area travel to Fargo all the time, shopping, restaurants, sporting games, what have you. And vice versa. Those folks are coming to our area, especially this time of year, to enjoy the Lakes area. So, we were
concerned our residents could go there, be exposed, bring it back, or they who live there could be bringing it here and exposing us that way as well. Um, but again, yesterday afternoon that changed. Um, and we now have two cases in Minnesota. Um, specifically Washington
and Dakota counties, which we briefly talked about. Um, so again, people traveling to the cities could be exposed or people traveling here from the cities to their lake cabins could certainly bring it this way as well. Um, and just to reiterate, Becker County is currently at zero cases.
Can go to the next slide, please. I guess sorry to interrupt you, Amanda. Yeah. When we had our Partnership for Health meeting, the cases in North Dakota were at 12. Is that correct? Last month. Thought he I thought he said 12. 12 or 13. So, it's so it's pretty much doubled
or more than double. Yep. And that's typically what we see with this is it will start doubling very quickly because of how contagious that it is. Um, so just to kind of further prove that point, one person with influenza, so if I had influenza, I could infect one person in this room, if I had measles, I
could infect 18. So it is again very highly contagious, Mr. Chair. And those those 28 measles cases in North Dakota, all unvaccinated. Um, I have not looked at that information. Um, I would assume a majority probably are. Um, I I could
find that information and get you a more direct answer if you like. Um, so what does this look like? So symptoms start 7 to 12 days after being exposed. And this is going to kind of start looking like cold and flu symptoms. Um, it's known for what's called the three C's. Um, so this is
going to be a high fever 104 105 fever is not uncommon with this. And then those three C's, cough, corisa, that's kind of congestion, runny stuffy nose. And conjunctivitis, which is what you think of for pink eyes. So some red irritated eyes. I can go to the next
slide. And then this is going to progress. So when we're typically seeing them in clinic hospital, they're going to have some more symptoms. Um so they're going to be lethargic and they're just looking at them and you know this person is quite sick. Um coplick spots are what's in the smaller
circle image there. Those are white little spots inside the cheeks, usually back towards the molers. And that's kind of what we call a red flag symptom of that's when we really should start questioning this might be measles. Um and that's because before that it's kind of cold flu symptoms, right? It could be
allergies, it could be anything. This is when we start flipping the script of questioning this could be measles because it is specific to measles and it happens a couple days right before the rash onsets. Um so the rash is what measles is really infamous for. It's a
very specific rash. It starts somewhere up on the head. So this could be the face, the hairline, behind the ears, and it's going to move down towards the body. So it's going to move down the neck, down the trunk, down your arms and legs. And again, it's a very specific rash. It's what's called maculopapular,
if you need a fancy new word to add to your dictionary. Um, and that means it is flat, red, discolored areas, and then it's going to have pinpoint little bumps around it. Um, even though the picture of the rash on the left looks rather miserable, it's usually not itchy. Um,
still again you have flu-l like symptoms, you're really not feeling so hot and now you have this rash on top of it. So, it's certainly not a fun disease to have. Um, the rash is significant because that is what's considered your day zero. So, you are contagious 4 days
before that rash starts through 4 days afterwards is when people could be spreading it around the community. So again, easy for people to assume this is my allergies, this is a cold, they're out and about doing their thing, and all of a sudden now they get this rash and what the heck's going on? Can go to the
next slide. So like any other disease, there's always complications. So common complications are things like diarrhea, ear infections, encphilitis is swelling of the brain which can cause permanent brain damage. Um and pneumonia which
pneumonia is the leading cause of death related to measles. 30% of people will have complications. One in 20 will develop pneumonia and one in five again are going to need um some hospital support. Of course death is part of this like any other disease. That is at the
rate to 1 to three out of a thousand cases, which really that's where we're at nationally. We just jumped up to 1,132 cases nationwide and we're currently at three deaths. So, we're certainly hanging within that parameter. Another concerning thing it causes is
something called subacute sclerosing paninsphylitis. Huge word, which is why we call it SSP for short. Um, so you might recognize that encphilitis part of it. So, again, it's brain swelling. However, this is really significant um and it's very progressive and it is
absolutely fatal. So, this looks like um cognitive changes. They're not thinking and acting like they normally would. They're having significant muscle spasms. They're having seizures. Um and it's going to progress and progress up until they eventually die, typically within one year from this diagnosis.
Thankfully, it is rare. It's one in a 100,000 cases. The concerning part to this though is this happens years after you were infected. So we're not worried so much about the here and now and I have a rash and I'm miserable, I have a fever, I have pneumonia, 7 to 10 years down the road, somebody could develop
this and die. So even more significant if a pregnant person were to develop measles, it does cross the placenta and infect that unborn baby and 7 to 10 years later that child could die. Um, another concerning thing that this does that I do not have on the
slide is measles has the ability to completely wipe out all immune memory. So, as we're growing, your body is exposed to different things and your immune system remembers, oh, we had this, we didn't like it, and we've built some protection against it so it can attack it quicker and you don't get sick again. This wipes out all of that,
including childhood immunizations. So, where this really impacts our community is certain people are going to start getting sicker and sicker because you don't have that immune protection. You're going to be missing work, missing school, daycare, all of those things. So, that's rather concerning part of
this as well. um there is no treatment available. So things like flu, we think of tam of flu, covid had pivid, we had those antiviral medications. This does not have that. The only medications given would be to manage symptoms. So certainly you could take things like
Tylenol, ibuprofen for a fever. You may be given some IV fluids in a hospital. Um you might get antibiotics to treat um infections that happen afterwards, those ear infections, pneumonia that might require some antibiotics. um specifically some misinformation going around about vitamin A. We're hearing a
lot about well just take vitamin A, take cod liver oil and you won't get this and that is not true. It doesn't work to prevent measles. It does however help reduce the significance of the disease once you develop it which is why it's given in a hospital is trying to reduce
how much this is going to impact you. Um, for some odd reason, measles depletes your vitamin A level, which is why this is given as a treatment because when your vitamin A level gets low, it affects your eyes, can actually lead to blindness. Um, but the flip side to that, if people go out and start
supplementing themselves with vitamin A, most people are not deficient in vitamin A, you could actually get toxic from it. So, you could get headaches, nausea, vomiting, even up to a coma. So, again, this is not something advised. It is only given in a hospital setting as a part of treatment prescribed by a
doctor. Can go to the next slide. Okay. So, what are we doing in public health? Um, we've put in quite a bit of time on this already the last two three weeks trying to kind of get a jump start knowing the writing's on the wall. This could be coming into our area. Um, so we're doing things just like this.
We're getting out. We're doing community education. We've gone on radio on Hodge Podge. Um, late media has been fantastic in welcoming us there. Um, we've done several Facebook posts um, explaining, do you know your vaccine status? This is who needs an MMR, this is what measles looks like, those kinds of information.
Um, last week we reached out to all the daycare childcare centers within Becker County. We wrote them a letter um, just saying we're trying to share some information, spread some awareness. Um, we shared a frequently asked question sheet. Um, and again a one page about
misinformation around vitamin A. Um, we did get approval to go through county buildings and take down all the COVID signage and replace that with measles. So sharing some education that way as well. Um, we are working closely with community partners with Essentia Health, Sanford Health, certainly our department
of health and epidemiology. Those are people who specialize in disease. They know every disease under the sun inside and out. And we are working to prepare specifically in our office. We had a mandatory meeting with our public health staff about two weeks ago um doing a presentation similar to this just kind
of brushing up on what measles is, what it looks like, what we would be doing because this isn't something we've seen for a while. So, we kind of needed to have a bit of a refresher. Um and tomorrow we will actually be doing a drill. We're doing a tabletop exercise of what it would look like if we had a positive case in Becker County.
Mr. Chair Vanessa, um, do you have access to who hasn't been immunized from measles? I mean, I know county employees. Well, no. I mean, everyone in Becker County, I mean, schools. Yeah. So, what um the options are I can look
through um the state department of health. I have access to a website that tells me the current vaccination rate, which we're currently at 86%. Um, specifically, who is not vaccinated. We do have something called Mick, which is basically Minnesota's registry of
immunizations. We do have the capacity to go through that and pull who has not been vaccinated. Well, rather than going to the masses, which is the words out there already, why don't you go to the people who haven't been vaccinated because that's the point of this, right? You're trying to get vaccinated. That's
going to be part of our response as well. Um, and I believe our local healthcare partners are going to be doing that as well as pulling those same reports who hasn't been vaccinated and doing some outreach that way as well. So that is in progress, sir. But those systems won't pull specific names. They
can. They can. Okay. Yep. I'm sure that would be a cumbersome process. I It's timely. Yes. Um because you could be potentially talking about hundreds of people and then the process of going through and are we sending them? Um so when I it's part of my background is I worked family medicine
clinic and we did this report monthly. We pulled vaccine reports monthly. that was part of um our quality improvement process and and did consistent reach out. Um and we would send my truck messages, phone calls, letters um but there's only so many times you can
preach the message. If people choose not to vaccinate, they choose not to vaccinate, but we can share the information and let them make a decision. Yeah. I mean I mean you have a 10-year-old. You may not remember if you chose to have your child vaccinated or not. Correct. I think you I think I
think most kids are vaccinated. I think you would be aware because you'd have to elect not to be vaccinated. So I think if I mean though I mean my kids are all vaccinated but if I you would have to you would have to be consciously say I
do not want these vaccinations I think and there and there are reasons for people that are that are real reasons not to be vaccinated. There are some people with health concerns that that are not eligible, you know, have had past reactions or or have so I mean
everybody shouldn't I mean just because I mean they have to evaluate themselves and work with their doctor. But I think for most people um I mean now looking looking at our age like well you know you don't worry about it when you're young you know in your 20s and 30s but
it's the people that aren't healthy that you're trying to protect in your in your community. I mean, those that are on treatment for cancer, I mean, where their immune system is zero, um, these are these are very significant. You don't want measles coming around if
you're on on some treatments for cancer. I mean, because, um, that's those are the things that kill a lot of the cancer victims is outside diseases. Yep. Correct. That that they're not immune to anymore. Yep. And your healthcare provider um does review your vaccine
status um each time you're going in. And so I know our local clinics are going to be asking some screening questions as well when people are coming in um asking if they have those symptoms. If they are, somebody's notified, they're pulled right away. Um and those nurses go through and prep those charts with every visit and they are looking at who's
vaccinated, who's not, and they're being offered those vaccines every time that person comes into the clinic. But again, like uh Barry said, it is a conversation um for that person to decide whether or not they would like to or even if they qualify. There are a few people who do not qualify. We can go ahead to the next
slide. Um, so this one's basically what we're going to do when if we get a positive case. So really, uh, Minnesota Department of Health is who would lead the response and we would be there to support them locally. How much involvement we have is going to depend
on how many cases we have. It only takes three cases to be considered having an outbreak. Um, so what the process would look like, um, person goes into the clinic. Um the big part is reporting that disease and testing that disease. So provider has any level of suspicion,
they test the patient and they have to immediately report to the Minnesota Department of Health. There is a 24-hour phone number that they have access to and can call. If it is a highly suspicious case, um Department of Health would contact us and give us a courtesy heads up. Um once that person is
positive, the epidemiologist calls that ordering doctor and says, "Hey, John Doe tested positive." That doctor then calls a patient, says you're positive, this is what you need to do. And then Department of Health is going to contact us at the public health office and say, "Hey, we have a positive
case." Um, and then next step is case investigation. So, Department of Health would actually contact John Doe or whoever tested positive. Um, and they're going to do an interview and ask where have you been the last 21 days to the best of their recolle best of their
recollection. Um hopefully that is done within the first 24 hours and that information is used to then create a list of exposure sites. So they went to the pharmacy, they went to the movie theater, they went to the grocery store, they went where have you. Um and then
that list um is posted as a site a list of um when somebody could have potentially been exposed with specific days and times so that people can watch for any symptoms. Um, part of that may be that Department of Health contacts us
and asks us to either post letters or a flyer of some sort at those specific locations just again to bring awareness. Hey, if you were here on this day and time, you may have been exposed. You should monitor for these symptoms. And that's it. You can go to
the next slide. So, I welcome any other questions that you may have. kind of asked them as we went along. Yeah. But this was super super helpful. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I learned a lot about measles. Good. Good. Um and my contact information is there. You're
certainly welcome to reach out anytime. Happy to help. So have you read the book of John Sanford book Toxic Prey? I have not. So John Sanford's an author from Minne from the Minneapolis St. Paul area and he wrote a book about it's the title
is Toxic Prey. It's a and it obviously he's murder mystery and so there's a what's the word for it? Antologist epidemiologist. No, but it entomologist is like a bug specialist. Is that what we're thinking? Ag o n i s anto ant what
is that word? Ant antagonist. No. No. Anyway, he's and I was thinking antid antid. Anyway, he's combining a measles virus
with a malberg virus which is deadly but not very contagious. So, this guy combined them. So, it's a very deadly virus that he's going to release that no one has a vaccine for and kill off half the at le minimum half the world so that we can better um regulate all that. It's
very interesting because it says specifically about it talks about the viruses and the and the tox or the rate of exposure and meas and that's what they were saying. Measles is very contagious but everyone's immune so not as deadly but the malberg would be
deadly. So, um, he created a vac a virus that was going to kill half the population. So, toxic prey if you're interested. Interesting. All right. Does anybody else have anything for Vanessa or Amanda? Well, thank you very much for coming. Um, thank you. Yeah, we on any
status changes. Yeah, let us know what's going on. Yeah. Especially since Well, I'm going to check mine. I know Carrie North Dakota's cases have doubled or more than doubled. Yes. Within two weeks. Within two weeks. Yeah. Thank you again. Yeah. Thanks. All right. Let's
move on to uh information technology. [Music] Good morning, chairman and commissioners. Um I'm bringing forth to you for you today a memorum memorandum for action. That was really very a very interesting thing. I mean it was I I
knew nothing about measles till now. Um and so what I'd like to bring forth to you is a sec our security and awareness training that we use which is called no before uh is up for renewal. The renewal uh is we could do it for one year or for
three years. I'm strongly suggesting we do it for three years because of a price protection and savings. Um what I'm looking for right now is uh the okay to renew it at 25,929. Um, the funding, this is where Barry's going to figure out where the
$19 comes from. The funding is from the local assistance and tribal consistency fund. And the current amount balance in that fund is 55 55,94823, which then would leave $30,1923. And I think the other 30,000
was to help move that building or acquired. Yeah. to acquire that building. So, um, so that that's what I'd like to do. And so, now I'm I'm kind of ready for some questions. Yeah. I just want to know what we talked about at finance yesterday was that, you know,
we do have the funds to pay for the three years and then we just um suggested and and Judy agreed that we would then plan yearly that we would budget yearly so that we in a capital something plan. Yes, I I
mentioned that. It's not a big ticket item, but I mentioned that we could possibly put this into a capital fund where she could budget yearly the third of it for 3 years go into a capital fund and then we'd be able to use that to renew. And it has a number of these.
Some of them we pay yearly, some of them we have to prepay. So I'll make sure that I know which is which and make sure I budget that way. Mr. Chair, this is not something that would go into a capital fund. No, no, no. It's just the way we're going to budget for. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, but the reason the
reason why I'm saying that is because in in a regular budget fund, you cannot carry over funds to the next year. In a capital fund, you can. That's what I'm saying is is and I mean I think our cyber security could be considered a capital. I mean it's not a I mean it's
not a big ticket item. It's not a big ticket item and it's not because it's important because the contracts are usually longer and the it's it benefit to pay for it early. question is it are you going to put a three-year contract in a capital fund so you budget for it
annually rather than once every three years if it's significant dollar amounts it should be in a fund where you keep it in your in a capital line budget so you're not so you have the money budget for annually so you're not spiking that up in one year of if it's like I mean I
don't know Carrie probably have to develop some threshold of it's over x amount of dollars that you want to budget this long term And yep. I mean, it was 5,000. It's probably not necessary to budget a Yes. No, but I I figured a $25,000 amount over three
years. And the no before is a top-notch. Yes. It's uh uh recogn recognized in the state of M Minnesota by uh the the criminal justice group and we've als I think we've had very great success with it. Um we've done a lot of training.
We've had a lot of hours of training. Um I believe each person has probably had about 21 hours of training from this over the previous three years and I believe it's stopped I mean we have caught some very bad things through this product uh that if people would have
answered um we would have had a much different outcome but they put it in so then the the the product helps us go grab it out of everybody else's email so you don't even see it and that's what's really nice about it. And I've forwarded you a couple that Yes, you have. Good job. you guys don't have the thing to to
send it directly to the to the products. So, I do that for you and it's it's amazing what it finds. Mr. Chair, I'll move to approve um recommendation for the security awareness training and simulated fishing
platform for 3 years. Second with the amount of 25920 coming out of the tribal awareness training really. All right, we have a motion in a second. Do we have any further discussion? Uh, one item of
discussion. I was looking through just general budgets and I noticed uh for for it under this this is one item under that it was it was like a much bigger number for it was like half a million dollars. I don't have it in front of me,
but it was a number that seemed very high for no before training. No, not no before, just general security. Oh, well annual. I you know I I Why don't we just come up and see me and I can I want to know all the things we do. I have a little I have a spreadsheet
that kind of rolls up into those numbers. This is just one item of it. You know what? I'll get back with you on that. Okay. So, do we have a motion second? All in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion carries. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, Judy. Thanks, Judy.
Uh Jim for highway. We have Morning Jim. Good morning, commissioners. Morning. Uh one item for your consideration. Uh we have a bid award. We opened bids uh earlier this week or actually late
last week. And um this is for our intersection lighting project funded through highway safety funds, federal funds, uh which pays 90% of the the cost of this. Uh we had two biders bid on the project and the low biders is Mark's
Electric um out of Detroit Lakes. They're about 5% over our estimate, but uh within the range of the funding on this project. So So when I read this, Jim, I you know, we didn't have much dialogue with it. I I kind of was thinking when I read lighting, you know,
and when you read it the first time, you just think I was thinking a new cross or a new stoplight, you know, basically. So I was like, where is this going? So then I did text Jonah and then then he informed me that this was what he kind of tell me what it was, but you know, probably a little bit more detail on so
where are these where are the lights? I think we talked about it before, but where the lights are going. Yeah, there's 11 intersections that uh were have been prioritized in our That's why you probably you didn't want this discussion. No, you know, Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson, you did I remember
seeing it a couple months ago. We we we did talk about this and it's coming. I know when we we hired the contractor to do the things we presented and there's a couple intersections that you thought didn't need it like 103 and and highway 10, we'd look at putting a flashing light and I know there's some cons
considerations for, you know, the the meter fees that we get charged now, which I think is kind of outrageous on some of that uh for a light that just sits out there. And but um 11 intersections
um I can run through them here. I don't I don't need to run that. Mr. Chair, I'll move when he did his capital funding, but um it's Yeah, it's If you could leave that with me, I'd look at it. Sure, Mr. Chair. I will uh move to approve revol resolution 6-251A.
Yep. All I need to say. So, Phil's got a motion by Phil, second by Richard. Do we have any other discussion? Just the discussion that you didn't get the charges reduced for monthly fees for having these lights on each site. Uh, haven't figured out a way yet. No, no,
no takers on that. Um, and there there's no solar that can keep these lit overnight. Uh, we didn't bid out solar lights. We haven't seen good success in those uh during the winter months. Uh, they kind of go dark because of the amount of
sunlight on that. Um I I just just to note this there's an annual there's an annual expense that will now be forever and it's not sign huge but but it's it's more than what's the saying if you save pennies they make dimes. You save dimes they make dollars.
Yeah. All I know is that I don't think that we've ever had any complaints of these lights. People really like them. Yeah. Mr. Chair, uh Jim, how many lights? We're adding 11 to how many that we already have in the county, would you guess? Uh, last project I think we had
about 13 and maybe like 10 before that. And I think we've got pretty much everything covered now that we need. 40 maybe. Yeah. At 25 bucks a month each. Yep. Yep. All right. We have a motion second. Do we have any more discussion?
Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right. Thanks. She was I think it was actually Becker 6 and 11. The one Becker 6 and five though was the one that I didn't think needed. But all
right. Um thanks Jim. Um Steve, I'll have a a lit walkway to my deer stand. We also Steve we also added the good morning to the your from the consent agenda. Okay. So we have two items to
cover. One is a capital purchase request for some items for organics program. I'd like to purchase some concrete blocks the monthly uh for $12,335. And then also uh second purchase uh request is to purchase a
cart tipper and uh a cart that goes on the truck that's from Perkins Manufacturing for the amount of $12,87.93. Where do you use that? on on the cart tipper that's going to go on the front of the truck. Our front loader trucks you have to have there's a picture in
there. Yeah, there's good picture. No, I see the picture where I said where what in what I mean we're not So we're going to be a lot of these businesses they don't have enough. So this is organic for organics. It's just for organics. Yep. Okay. We could use it for other things if we decided to get into and this goes over the front. So when you
drop it down that sled is going to be coming over the cab. No, it won't be coming over the cab. So, we'll see. It's a pretty that type of attachment is used across the industry is I'm sure it'll work. Yeah. All right. Do we have a motion to
approve the And this is purchased through that grant, too. It is. This will be refunded. So, do we have a motion to approve the uh concrete blocks and the tipper? I'll make a motion to approve blocks and the tipper. All right. We have a motion to have a
second. I'll second. So, we have a motion by Richard and a second by Phil. Mr. Chair, uh Steve, we had talked about those concrete blocks like we had talked about maybe using someone else because of the quality of I didn't see it says
concrete blocks. Didn't say who we're getting them from. Yeah, I thought that was in there. Okay, it's not. Okay, different one. All right, good. All right. Any further discussion? Just wondering if we need to put the dollar amounts in the motion. Um,
and you're on both of them. You did both of them at the same time? Yep. So, Perkins Manufacturing is 12,87 93 and the cart tipper. No, the pop the blocks are $12,335.
Yes. Yeah. 123 and from concrete block supply, not Perkins. Perkins manufacturing is the tipper. Yep. So the blocks, I'm sorry, is 12,33563. You amend, Richard? Yep. Yeah. Al good.
All right. So we have a motion, a second with the amendment. Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. I. You opposed. All right. Motion carries. Uh the second item is uh repairing the rotor on our Eddieurren. We keep a spare rotor if one goes bad so we can replace
it and keep operating. And so we last this last spring, last winter, one of the bearings went out on the rotor. So we put our spare in and now we'd like to get this one repaired, fixed up. It's a cost of $32,713.
Just can you give me a an idea what the revenue generated from this is annually from the separation of the aluminum? I'm guessing it's probably north of 100,000. How much? I'm not sure off the top of my head I can get that to you,
but it's just 100,000. I just want to plus for aluminum. Yeah, it's a significant cost. I mean, I just, you know, that this is cost benefit to us. It is. And I'm again, off top of my head, it's
probably 75 to 80 100,000 somewhere in there. It's a lot of money. It's their biggest revenue generator. Yeah, I know aluminum would be, but how long did this other one last before it went 5 years? I'm hoping this one goes longer because they redesigned the bearings. This is an
old machine. It's one that we bought. It had been taken from the Pulk County one and they refurbished theirs. We brought it here and uh it's just one of those things that you have to replace. And then I asked Steve in finance how much it would cost
to buy a new one and 400 45. You know that's a guess. Yeah, I know. So So that I just wanted I I pulled that cuz I just wanted everybody to understand that repairing it and fixing it is way better option than paying spending 400,000 for a new one. Right. And Mr. Chair, we
vetted this out pretty good. It's going to Pennsylvania somewhere to get refurbish is the manufacturer. Yeah. And uh you know when we talk about capital fixes, this is the area where I mean these are moving parts. This is the area where I think it's just vitally
important to have a capital expend. So we know these things are going to wear out. Um and we're going to need to be replacing them. I mean we're not right here but uh to me in the murf that would be a very important place to have capital project and he show I' I've got
your plan when you plan to replace stuff. All right. So, do we have a motion to approve the the repair of the Eddie current machine for $32,713? So, moved. We have a second. Second. All
right. So, motion by Eric by second by uh uh Richard. All in favor sign. Do we have any discussion? Sorry. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion. Thank you. Thanks, Steve. Shane back again.
Well, officially, good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the board. Again, again, um I don't know if this will go forward or not. Um in finance, there was a question that came up uh that they wanted um county attorney McDonald to look at. Uh he wasn't able to get that answer in time. So, uh before we
proceed, do you want to move forward with this or we can do it pending? Yeah, pending. I think approval. So, I would say we attorney approval. Yeah, we can make a motion. Um, do we want to say what the approval? So, here go ahead explain. Well, I explain the issue. So, we we want to uh some of these are going
to go to auction and some of them we wanted to send to the guardian company as as to get credit for when they put our equipment on our new squads. Um, and and that amount would be more than what we get at auction form, but we don't know if we're allowed to do that because
we paid for them with public funding. So, we're checking into that. So it's kind of a tradein. I would I can't say it's a trade in but it's not a trade in for a vehicle. It's a tradein for service and equipment for equipment. Yeah. So it it pro maybe I don't know. I
would say I and then I we also told talk to Shane obviously other counties do this how. Yeah. We just thought at finance yesterday we should probably just verify with Yeah. Brian just so we're training in vehicles or we're
training in equipment on the vehicles or both possibly both. So, so they call it a regeneration program where um our our used equipment uh they will um take either the vehicle or the vehicle and the equipment and what they do if we
leave the equipment with the vehicle. They there's another third party person that they sell it to that they then refurbish these vehicles and sell them to either small town departments who can't afford to build it build a squad car from the ground up or actually some
of these get shipped overseas to you know foreign uh police departments to you know have squad cars over there. Um the the benefit to us is that we don't have to pay to take all the equipment
out which is roughly between 750 to a,000 you know $950 I think $750 to $950. Um so it it it saves that cost and then the cost that they were that they were giving us looked probably to be higher than what we were getting at auction for our vehicles. So there's it
looks to be a cost benefit, you know, once said and done from start to finish on the squad car builds, you know, all the different moving parts of that. Uh looks like it could be um a cost benefit. We did want to kind of vet the process out. Uh these these are a new model of explorer that we have. So we
want to look at maybe retaining a couple of those and doing it the old way of putting them to public auction. See what we get for that dollar value. they give us a quote on this and try to do kind of an apples to apples for this year and just run them through two different streams and say this one did better, this one did better and that gives us
direction moving forward in the future. Hey, this might be a better option or that's a better option. So, what we're looking for is kind of a um a vehicle by vehicle dec or a ability to approve or approval to get rid of those vehicles on a vehicle-by- vehicle basis based off of
the uh either going to auction, going through this regeneration program for the vehicle or vehicle and equipment. Uh some of where this also benefits us is sometimes some of these Fords become Chevys. So, it'll go from a Ford Explorer to a Chevy Tahoe. So that
equipment doesn't match up. So there's it doesn't really make sense for us to retain that equipment because it kind of loses its value where if we turn that into a Tahoe, we get the credits for it. They do what they're going to do with it and give us the money in lie of and then we can apply those that money towards a
different vehicle that the equipment wouldn't fit into. So it's funny they the Ford doesn't turn into a Chevy. No, it does not. The equipment the bolt holes are different spots. These models though that Yes. All right. An elementary education. So a kid visualizes this. They change it to So So
I So do we have a motion to approve the sale the sale of the old sale of the old squads or regen of the old squads pending approval of you? Go ahead. I'll make a motion to um the list of squads to sell or regenerate or to sell or to
trade in either the squad or the equipment. I would make a motion to these items listed in our packet. That's force unit number 46777 etc etc. Um to either sell at a public auction to trade in or trade in the car
and equipment or trade in just the equipment for the regen or if any other county agency needs they can sell it to another internal because we did mention that transit might be looking for something. I don't think this would work, but um just so you have that authorization, the
the list of vehicles before us. And then do you want to add pending approval of our county attorney? Yes. For the regen? Okay. Pending a county approval for the regen safe trades. Yeah. Do we have a we have a motion? Do we have a second? I'll second. So we have a motion to second.
Do we have any further discussion? Mr. Chair, regen. That's regeneration like fixing the car back. That's what you're That's what that means. Sorry. Yeah. Regeneration program. They call it a regen. That's their term, but it's a regeneration. So, it has a life after its initial life. Okay. All right. So,
motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. All right. Motion carries. Thank you. Have a good day. Thanks, James. All right. Kyle, only an hour late. Do we have the RE Grant? No, that was in
the consent agenda. Oh, sorry. I'm looking at the finance committee. Oh, wrong agenda. Yep. Wrong agenda. Way to go. Good morning. I have planning commission recommendations for your consideration from May 28th. Uh the first being a
conditional use permit to operate a nonprofit maker space and woodturning school. The on-site hostel portion was removed. Um they were advised that they could do a short-term rental on that property, but the actual hostel portion
again was removed. Uh recommendation was to approve with the condition that the applicant put in a tree fence between them and the neighbor to the south. This was old business, right? This was tabled from the previous. Yes. I will move to Do I have to move? We have to
have a motion on each. I'll move to approve the request for the conditional use permit for the nonprofit uh maker space and wood turning school and concur with planning and zoning. concur with planning zoning findings or second you want to concur with planning and zoning and approve. Yeah. So we get
that it's been approved. Yes. No, you want to concur. You want to concur with their with their restrictions and their work plan and then approve. That's what we their recommendation to approve our approval. Concur with planning zoning and then approve. So you word it right. Okay. So we have a motion by Phil and a
second by Barry. Any discussion? I just I just wanted to note that there um this was this does come like there were several there was some concern with the neighbors but there was also um some recommend or letters of support from
area woodturners and project 412 also provided a a letter of support. So I think this could be a a good um little niche asset to the community and not competitive with anything else Mary. Okay. All in favor? Okay. All in favor
signify by saying I. I motion carries. All right. Next one. First applicant of new business was a preliminary plat for 10 units storage units to be known as Idol Lake Storage. Uh recommendation was to approve. U Mr. Chair, I I have some concerns with
this. It's how it's in the shoreland district. Yes, sir. It's in the shoreline district of Lake Ida. Um the total property is what 3.16 acres was being sold for residential. Um I can get you that. It's it's near
commercial sites. So I mean you're you're you're getting I mean you could argue that it bridges that that commercial area um directly across the lake. I mean there's there's houses directly across this site.
333 3.33 acres. 3.31. Yeah. 3.31. And how many acre how much square footage is is marsh land on the on the so some of this is already lowland that's not that if you delineated it's not part would be non-buildable.
Um what what percentage of building area coverage is this? Um, so it that just to answer your first question there the there's two lower areas. It looks like the first one is probably a little bit bigger than 38,000
ft or 089 acres and then the one to the north [Music] is so the the one low area actually helps because it provides a more of a buffer for the for the yeah distance. So it's actually helpful.
Um and I know they're m I know they have to be close to max out of their impervious surface. I haven't looked at the file but they actually got a variance to be at 30% from corn township but I think they're at like 27.89 or something.
I mean I would like the only change I would like is to add that to make the the road the road top is considered impervious surface for for maximum density and that that would be um so they're
at let's see here and I and I believe that the one up on veer five and six is not considered that's the road is impervious in that development. We would consider every road per impervious.
Every single one, whether it's asphalt or class 5. We're currently in that now. Yeah, we would we would consider that. So, they're currently at 27.5 on this one. That includes the road. Yeah. And I
would say given the proposal how it I mean that's including the low areas as per impervious. I mean that's including measuring those also. Yeah. But given this there's at 27.5 it's it's maxed.
Um have you have you saw the drawing? I did earlier. Yeah. That I know it pushes them back in that ridge line essentially. Yeah. What it does so this is low here. Yeah. Then this is low here and then there's a little low there. So it comes in like this. But the buildings sit just
like this and then right there. But you know the residential directly across and I think the concern and I'm I'm surprised Corman gave him a variance to increase that but it's the
uh it's the coming into you know this is coming right into Becker County. This is all for sale on top here. Um I imagine this this sale here is contingent on this approval. I would assume, but maybe not. The stuff to the north. The current one
we're on is I would assume for is just bought or for So the the individual who platted that those six lots is the applicant for the storage. So he can't complain about the neighbor doing a storage building. No, I I mean I think
what he's going to say is, "Hey, I tried to sell them and they sat here for 2 years and now and he has done more storage in the community." So the the key here is what he paid for and what his profit margin is. Have no concern of any decision-m on this board. Right.
Correct. Yeah. But you can't get a better neighbor than a storage building. They don't have dogs. They don't have cows. They don't have lights. That's Mr. Chair. I'll move to approve the uh lake it storage. Do we So
we have a motion by Phil to approve. Do we have a second? Second. Second by Richard. Um any further discussion? I just point out I you know you want to make sure that these things are aesthetic. I mean this it's right on the road and very handy but
aesthetically this is the I mean you want them somewhat reasonably in my opinion and I think that's what the residents in this area are asking for too. I mean, generally, not spec not even specific to this one, but I mean, I think if we
could have just some sort of guidelines to say we want a couple rows of trees just to break up the walls of Do you want to add that to the Mr. Is there room for is there room for some trees between the They Yeah. So, Jeff
Morates did bring that up at the at the tour. Um, and then the applicant, uh, he was represented by Metalland, but they they didn't have an issue with that, and that was actually stated at the meeting. I thought it was part of the motion. I had, uh, staff listen to the recording prior to coming down here, and it
wasn't, but they were okay with doing that. So, we just do a friendly amendment to add two rows of trees between the road and the first layer of I mean, yeah, if that's okay with motion maker. So, you don't have to amend it. Just friendly, Kyle. That'd be acceptable. Yeah, they they had no issue
with it. I I'll amend my motion to to include uh a number of trees. Two rows of trees. How many bushes? Couple rows of trees to between the road and the first row of building. The first building I I Yeah, I think you Yeah, if
they're willing to do it that it's not going to be something minimum of I will my amend my motion to minimum of 10 trees placed between the road and the first building. How's that? Minimum 10 trees. Mhm. Okay. All right. So, we have a motion and a second with the
amendment. Yeah. Yeah, he's good. All uh all in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right, Kyle. Thank you. Um then the last one uh was a conditional use permit for a small engine repair business with a
recommendation to approve. Mr. Chair, I'm not familiar with this site or anything, but is there adequate parking for the number of vehicles that will I mean that's one of the shortfalls with our planning zoning when we approve these conditional use that that we could
run into if it changes. Yeah, they got quite they got quite the uh the parking. Okay, so they're off. They have pretty good size. Pretty Yeah, they have a large area. So, no, that's There's no
issue. Like the last one we had a while ago, there's an issue with getting in from the road. There's no issue at all. No, there's existing access here off County Road 135. Hi. Do we have a motion to concur with the planning and zoning commission on So
moved. We have a second. I'll second. All right. Motion by Eric, a second by Phil. Any discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. And just an update. The last applicant was that request for mining operations. Um the plan there
would be to um have a special meeting that's already been scheduled for June 11th at 8:30 a.m. for them to consider the planning commission to consider uh findings consistent with an approval and then also some conditions. Um and then that plan to have that back before
you June 17th. Okay. Um before Kyle leaves, we we want to talk about your work session, Kyle. Yeah. I was just wondering if there was a time we could schedule I I think the best time would be an off board
meeting week. So maybe next week or next week is not I'm in the city is next Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Okay. I got to get my calendar up here. And I It could be during a board week, too, but I mean, if it's It's kind of
long. Yeah. No, no. No. What? So, then it would go to the week of the 23rd. Uh, can we do the 9th? The Monday before you're gone the 10th, right? Yeah. And I'm I'm traveling to the cities on the
9th. Oh, okay. Yep. So, the 17th is a board meeting. You know what? I guess I I guess I would consider it if we took a break and I mean two or three o'clock. Not maybe not the same day but during the same week or Oh yeah. Yeah. That that's fine.
If we could Friday afternoons really do work the best for me but I love those. That's just me. Um what Friday afternoon? Sorry. That's probably worse than trying to
continue after a board meeting. Friday. What about the 13th? Friday the 13th. I can't do No. Jesus. I'm just loaded up tomorrow.
Thursday. Yeah. Just as a reminder, we're closed on the 19th as well. Yeah, that's Junth. Yeah. I thought we have a scheduled courthouse meeting that day. Do we have It's on the 12th. We have a What about the 16th before? That's the Monday before I got We do it
after finance. I No, we got joint powers after that and I have to go to I got to go to I'm gone all day. I got to go to Morehead. 18th afternoon. How about the 30th? 18th. I have a meeting in the afternoon. 30th.
What time? Anytime after finance 30th would be I'm off that whole week. So the 30th would be sure 101 10 o'clock 10. Now what are we going to do there? So my plan would be to go through the
ordinance basically section by section and explain to you what the changes would be. And then you want this board to tell you how to proceed. Was that the right rather than the other way? Right. Well, basically to get some permission. Yes. To proceed. Okay. So, the work
session, just to repeat back, is June your 30th 30th at 10. So, that's how we'll post then a work session. Yep. Yep. Okay. Here. Yes. That does put up against uh the window of lunch at 12. So, you got two hours.
We can order in. No, we can't. We can order. Um I do have one thing. Finally remembered. Finally remembered. Great. Not to do with Kyle, but um board of adjustments and equalization. What is
that? Oh, the six next Monday, isn't it? I don't think it's next. No, it should be Thursday, isn't it? Isn't it the 16th? I can't remember either. I feel like it is. 16th is a Monday. So, it's on the 17th. We did it
on a board day. He didn't know. We used to do it on a Tuesday, but our new assistant decided he wanted to do it on Monday. Well, let's get that hammered out right now. And I would like I would like to be prepared
to have a class act class reduction of egg land of egg land. And I want the numbers. I want our numbers for um our total numbers of taxable market
value taxable. What our percentages are for that category. Okay. Um Lisa Wilson said we're at 97%. I know you had conflicting numbers at 90%. Y get those and then what if we are if the board decides to what percentage we can lower
that class to if if we choose to at that time we can do that I thought the we can lower the if it's above the two requirements to do that you have to do the whole class you cannot our resolution go below the 90% of values of of sales and you cannot do more than 1%
total of your market value. Yep. Lisa said the 1% will limit us more than getting down below 90%. Okay. Are you going to have a conflict of interest with that vote? Who doesn't? Who doesn't have any conflict of interest? Well, you said it was a rate. It was a specific category, right? Class
reduction. What is the category? Category. Bare land agriculture. Vacant land ag. Okay. Okay. So, I have that. And just to verify the date, it's the 17th. 17th, Tuesday.
Then that's at 6:01. Well, are we? Yes, we all got to be there for that, too. Mhm. But we don't have to, but we have to have at least a quorum. We have to go. And Mary Collins, we're doing that after this.
17th is so does the assessor call us a Okay. Would you would you like your appointment? We did talk about that earlier. recommend recommend post or vacant or posted till Phil say
that post requirement on a to post it for a certain timeline when it's a yeah we did talk about that so that was a suggestion since we got Kyle here anyway I mean we we talked about nuisance properties a month ago are we
moving forward with that on our zoning committee yep that that'll be one of the things we'll highlight and prioritize What? That's the purpose of your work session. Yep. And one of the things that I would like to I know where it falls, but percentage of service on building
community buildings. Do you because they go overboard? I don't what we what came out of there. We're we're we can move forward with that. Is that okay to move forward with that ordinance changes that we came up
that was supported by the they were they were alterations to zoning the height of the retaining? Yes. So 4T 4T lower is permittable right by admin by administration. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'd agree with that.
that would come before. It will actually come before you after, but it'll be on time like the week before then the 30th. We'll we'll meet and then it'll come to you. So, come after our agreement, but I'd like
after it's in the Terry, do you have clear direction? I think I have it. Do we have any else for the good order of the order? All right, return. Thank you. So we just set a meeting for board of adjustments for all of us. Board of equalization. Board of appeals.
Equalization.