I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Good morning. >> We don't have much of an audience this
morning. >> Okay. Any changes to the agenda? >> I No. >> No. >> You have something else? >> Um, we did. >> Carrie, are you going to cover that in your uh the legislative priorities just
because that's urgent? Were you going to cover that in your administrator's report? I'm just going to reference that I sent it to you and then if there's anything in addition that you want me to add or take off or modify, I could certainly do that and then make copies for all of you.
>> All right. Um if no changes to the agenda, I'll entertain a motion to con. >> I'll move to approve the agenda. >> Second. >> Second. Any further discussion? That would be Darth Vader. All >> those in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carries. >> Luke, I'm your father. >> Uh, minutes. >> I have some changes. >> I'll just wait. I got to find it.
>> You want to go first? I'm ready. >> Go ahead. >> Uh, page two of three under number five under county administr blight property workflow information. I thought maybe we should say bright blight property
procedural because they're all procedures. >> Sure. >> Information rather than work. >> That's what I thought. But >> yep, >> that's all I had. >> Madam Chair, on page um three of three, just a couple clarifications on it. The
first um it probably I'd like to have it include how many PCs instead of just a total amount >> because it looks like that's one big PC we're buying there. Um And then on the second one under veteran services motion is and second to approve
the intern placement at no cost. Um probably referenced it in the veteran service office just for but it was the veteran service presenting but I it >> inter placement in the veteran services office >> for and then just for the summer or just
for the time frame it was that was it actually there was actually those those um correction they're not corrections they're just additional information that aren't really necessary but if people are reading it they would it's just nice to have a little bit >> because so the actual the minutes were
Perfect. But >> Oh, >> there was no mistakes at all. >> Well, they're perfect now, Barry. >> No, there are no mistakes. >> There are no mistakes. Yeah. >> No grammatical errors. >> I didn't find any. >> No punctuation. >> No punctuation. No commas. >> Commas.
>> The only um one that I um >> comma >> there's no corrections. It's just additional information that might be helpful. under human resources with the compensation system policy. We did as you know it's coming back today. We did
have conversation about department heads. So I don't know if we want to >> about leadership a >> if we want to make note of that in >> the minutes >> in the minutes because now we're going to come back today to discuss >> maybe better the flow. Yeah. She'll
bring back information to today. >> Yeah. That was all I had. >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes with the changes. >> All right. Do you have motion? Have a second. >> Second.
>> All right. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> Motion carries. Anybody want to pull anything from the consent agenda? >> I madam chair, I'd like to pull number five.
Okay. Anybody else? Where do we want to Are we Do we put that after >> um Steve is >> Is Steve coming? Oh, Steve coming at 9:30. So, >> yeah. >> Can anyone guess that voice? You had one note. >> No. Just like the TV show, you have one
note to guess that voice. Anyone? Todd, Nate, Tiara? The guess is Tiara. >> Oh, >> was it Tiara? >> No. >> No. >> Darn. >> No, I don't know. >> I'd have said Denise.
>> Okay. Um, any further discussion on the consent agenda? Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion to approve it. >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda with the changes. >> Do I have a second? >> A second. >> Any further discussion? Um, just a just
a question. I think this was under I had some comments on a couple of those boarding rates under sheriff because there was the graph below it and then there was a the rate they were different. So just >> on the resolution it was different than that box. So
>> So I just want to make sure that we're when we approve it >> information resolution is that >> it was >> do you were you did you see that too? Yeah. >> Anyone else see that? The the rates for a couple that had those just square boxes on
>> trying to find it. >> It's page uh >> it's page 60 is where they start. >> I didn't know. >> It was under Yeah, it was under sheriff. >> It was the >> So, the deputy contracted services it the the rate for the 26 ft on that box
is different than >> the 120. >> It says 120 on the resolution and 100 in the box. So it says 100 in the box. >> I can't >> um >> Yeah, >> it's just for our committee meeting mainly to show where we are currently at. >> So the box is just for but it shows 26
fees but just the boxes are irrelevant in this disc in the >> resol resolution. The box is what we are currently at. >> Okay. >> So the resolution is correct but they were different. So it was confusing when you if you looked at the box number was different than the resolution number. Got it.
>> Okay. Any any further discussion? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. Already did that. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. >> Do we have anybody for open form? >> No.
>> Jerry, you didn't have anything. >> Jerry, you get a haircut. >> Jerry, you look very nice there. >> You look respectable and like a good citizen of Becker County. >> It looks good. It looks good. Reminds me of that show Columbbo when he had to go to that stylist to interview him and he
got all fancied up. You you know the Columbbo show. One of my favorite shows was Columbbo. >> Okay. Um >> I digress. >> Reports. Who wants to start? >> I'll go first. Um
I had the watershed. Um Chuck Becker did a presentation at the watershed uh concerning wakeboats. So, um that's probably going to be coming back and I want that to fall off the fall off. Um he was proposing uh no wake
boats in Becker County on Fox, Pickerl, and Big Sugar Bush. Um regional CND uh construction demolition. Um I just want to hand this out again. You guys can give these back if you want when you're done, but this is the map of the regional CND. The area I've been sitting
in on this committee and just listening. Uh some more information keeps coming up all the time. June is going to be the end date for this. We've been working on this for it'll be a year in June. But in that region you have there that that region produces about 250,000 cubic
yards of loose construction demolition. What's in a house? Shingles, wood, cement, uh insulation. So of of that 250,000, Becker County produces about 44,500 which is about 20%. So, it's nine
counties. We're producing a little more than the average, which makes sense. We're Dina in Todd County don't produce a lot. We produce a little more. Um, currently at the Becker County landfill, now this can always change a little bit, but we have about 40 plus years of
capacity there for construction and demolition. That includes Hog because the Hog pit down on the uh by Lake Melissa is going to be closing. So, we just assume that that material is going to be coming to the Becker County Transfer Station.
Currently, we have about a million cubic yards of permitted compacted airspace out at our CND landfill. So, late this year or next year, the MPCA is going to be coming out with some new rules. We're
assuming that's going to be there's going to need to be liners put in these CND landfills, which is big expense. Um, when those rules do come out, we're probably going to have about eight years
to implement. So, that'd be 2034. So, we all this information is preliminary, but we're going to have to do something down the road or someone else sitting in our seats is going to have to do something. Uh liners can be either be clay or they can be synthetic. Um that is yet to be
determined. So right now as it sits if we're not going to put in a line, if we're not going to change anything, we either and these rules come out, we're either going to have to haul our CND waste to either Gwenner because they've got a lined facility or Demcon down in the city Shakape. Um great
expense, great transportation expense. That's one option. Uh second one, same kind of expense, probably more expense would be to create one or two regional landfills. Um the center point of that nine county area is Vining, Minnesota.
Um if you did two regional landfills, it'd be Verus and Evansville. Um these are just options. This would be great expense. We'd have to buy the land. We'd have to create all of this infrastructure. Huge expense. The other option which
might be possible and Richard I know you Richard does not like this um but do a joint powers. There's two facilities that have capacity right now. Detroit Lakes we got a lot of capacity uh and Fergus Falls
has a lot of capacity and they have room to grow. Both have over a million uh cubic yards of airspace. that would be a joint powers like Prairie Lakes which I'm not I'm just giving you the information. I I don't I haven't made up my mind yet on this. Um
so that would be another option. All these things will be expensive. So my question always back to the group is is listen, we've got 43 years right now. Um granted we might have to put in a liner, but I mean what advantage is there to us
if we're giving up our space to put your material in in what we have as our space right now? So, I mean that question needs to be answered, but it's a good exercise to go through. A lot of this information is good that comes out about what's happening right now, but
>> can I a dumb question? Why why is Wilin County not part of this group? Who are they with? North Dakota. >> I mean, how are they excluded from our map? >> Yeah, but I mean, Wilin is they're closer to us than Pope County. >> I don't know why.
>> Maybe they said right away, >> but you know what I'm saying? Why? Why? I mean, I think >> they didn't want to be part of it. I don't want to. I knew right away. >> Why? This region is just really stupid. I mean, why don't you know if Becker County would include Clay Manomomen? I mean, there's a lot better partnerships than
>> Hope County for us. But >> I know that they did this this exact study north of us Pulk and Bel Tramy and all those, they did the same thing. Uh, >> but if you zero in on a place that's going to have it, say Becker County, why would we not incorp help Manomomen County? our next door neighbors that are
closer to us than most of these. >> Well, I think Manomomen was included in the when they did the study up north of us, >> right? But we can change the regions. We can change those. >> Absolutely. Manoma County doesn't produce a lot of CND, I would guess. >> Right. >> But you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying the we're so early in this. I I
would if if the rules come out and what what they are, >> I think you look at what's best for you and your immediate neighbors rather than >> or just you. But yes, your your neighbors too, but they're not looking at that Barry. They're going to tell you how many of your neighbors you're going
to have and they want you to pay for your neighbors transportation. They want all Yeah. So, >> I think there's a lot of lot of learning before we >> Yeah. There's a lot of control there. I think we just line our land like and just continue on. I'm not saying we
wouldn't take some from neighbors, but >> we want to be part of the solution, but we're not going to sacrifice our longevity. I mean, from 40 years to 10 years, we're not going I mean, we're not going to do that. >> Or if we are, what what do we get in return for? >> Yeah, I get that. >> There's nothing for us.
>> We're not going to benefit from doing this. Nobody can nobody throughout this whole thing, nobody's given me any benefit for Becker County. It's And there's a lot of control there. I >> Well, just so you know, I mean, CND, let's say somebody takes a house down in
Perm or something. I mean, they can bring their material here. We don't know if someone's bringing unless it's just something on the side of their truck or something. We don't know a lot of times where that material comes from. A builder out in Fargo comes out, tears a house down in Fargo or out here, they
bring it to our landfill. We don't know where a lot of that stuff comes from. Now, we I would assume that transportation costs would come into this. So, they wouldn't be taking it further away. Uh they would try to take it to the closest spot, but we don't >> those things are manageable as you move
forward. I mean, you could you would have relationships with contractors that would >> give you know, there are ways to >> if we when we go down that route, there's ways to >> Well, it's happening right now. >> Mhm. >> But anyway, so this is just an
introductory some of the information that's come out. That's as best as I could put it. Um, >> you put it very well. >> Well, thank you. And I will find that out. Why isn't Wilin in this? Why did they choose these nine? I guess I understand putting it in regions and we have to start somewhere. But why would Wilin not be part of this? I mean, where would they go if they're not are they
going to go down to Minneapolis? They're part of this group down here. >> Well, they could go to Gwenner. Um, and maybe it was a cost effectiveness. Gwyn is a lot closer for them than it is for us. And maybe they don't produce a lot there. They don't have a lot of lakes. I mean, one thing I'm coming to the
realization here is that, you know, we we got 20% of the the the waste here in this CND, but you know what that means? They're tearing down old houses and building new new ones. We had $88 million of new construction last year. I mean, that's a that that's a good thing. >> That's 88.
>> That's a very good thing. >> We're one of the only counties in this region that is growing. >> I as I look at other counties around us, I mean, yeah, there's there's counties you want to emulate a little bit, but I'll tell you what, there's a lot of counties I wouldn't want to be sitting in this seat in another county.
>> I've said that my whole time here. We Becker County is so blessed, so fortunate with with the growth on the lakes and the and the >> diversity farming. We we've got a lot going on here. This is a >> You know, the other thing that we we the tourism in Becker County and just the birding, just the the different
ecosystems that are combined here. We have such unique um um what is it? At biospheres and >> yeah, there's >> biomes. >> Biomes. >> Three biomes come together at Wanigan Park there in
>> Yep. Crazy. Yeah. So, to me, when you look for aspirational counties, counties you want to em emulate, I mean, I we've talked about Ottertale County. They're bigger. Uh they're but they've got the same kind of geography as we do. Uh meaning they have
a lot of lakes, too. I mean, I' I've gotten to know those people pretty well, and >> they just have a really cool >> They do some things well. >> Mascot and that, too. We >> We haven't figured that out yet. Beaver. Beaver. So, any other questions on that? Or >> when was when 2034?
>> We have troll mascots. >> 2034. We're assuming that that's going to be when we have to have something implemented by >> All these things are going to cost though. >> This is a state state driven, right? This isn't >> this is state this is a study sponsored
by the state. We got a $300,000 grant to see if we can do this regional CND waste better. That's what the grant was for. Okay. Uh, moving on. Uh, Prairie Lakes. Uh, I didn't know this, and maybe you guys all did. We have a pill collection
thing, a a prescription pills collection thing here. I talked to the sheriff about it. I I actually didn't know that, but it came up at Prairie Lakes because you got to have a certificate of destruction and stuff. We were talking about this and and uh so we do that. It's good thing to do to get rid of your
medications and stuff. Todd, did you have by one of the >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I didn't know that, but it has to be destroyed. Our facility is a place that destroys some of that stuff. >> It's legally. And >> we brought when when my when you have
deaths in the family, that's where I recently brought a lot of the medications, you know, just dumping dumping there. And >> it's right at the sheriff's office. Yep. >> Are you supposed to you're not supposed to take them out of the box pill boxes, right? Just leave them in the pill boxes and dump them.
Just normal plastic bags. That's all. >> And ne and needles there. Do you What do you do with needles? >> Are those burnt too? Are those those go over to the incinerator? >> Then I I don't know either.
Prairie Lakes >> if it goes in the garbage though, it could just as likely go to the landfill in Fargo or Grand Forks. I mean, we wouldn't know that at the transfer station where that goes, but that's conversation for another day, I guess. Um, also the so we were talking I told
you guys about the ash being in the Becker County roads highway 39 and 40. Um, that went out to bids. So we got all our technical stuff from Brun Ender done. So that's out to bid now by Jim by our highway department.
>> Time's up. Um, one thing, uh, so Ottertale County applied for a CAP grant for our ash facility over there. Um, they have they have jacketed this uh with a transfer
station over there. I'm trying to get some clar. They want us to support it, which we want to support the ash facility, but I've asked Chris McCann, who is the Steve Skoo of Ottertale County. I've asked him to clarify what we are supporting there. The ash ash
facility we want to support because we're we're joint powers with that. The transfer station gets a little more elusive. That's their deal, but they jacketed. They go together. So, he asked if he could sit in on our uh meetings uh
down in St. Paul tomorrow. I said yes, but I wanted some clarity on this. So, we're running up to the time now, but Chris McConn may be sitting in. I I wanted some more clarification on what that looks like because, you know,
high tide floats all boats. We want to support our neighbors, but the transfer station really doesn't affect us. It affects Ottertell County. He's put those together in a cab grant with the ash facility, which so just be aware that that may be happening down there. Um,
planning and zoning. Uh, everything is on the agenda that will be coming up. So, I'll just skip over that. Environmental. Um, me and Richard said on that I there's a lot going on environmental. Um, >> we got a 10-year solid waste management plan we got to come up with. That was in
>> That's what you pulled. Um, but just understand this too. I didn't know this till our meeting. We've got a 10-year permit that we've got to to operate our facility, which is going to cost about 30 grand, 30, 40 grand that we're going to have to approve in the next month here. I mean, this is by the state. I we
don't have any saying it. We don't control it. So, these two things, the solid waste management plan and the 10-year permit are both coming due this year, and we're going to have to I mean, we we can't not do it. We're going to have to pay for it. >> I assumed we budgeted for it, though.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He knew it was coming. Um, we talked about the MURF material recovery facility, the recycling there. They there we're getting out bids for a metering drum. We think that could help our flow a little
better there. Um, also, we've got 30 or 40 years of compost out there. We I've asked Steve to move forward with let's trauml that, let's turn that into something good. Let's try to sell it or get rid of it. I mean, we got a pile of it. It just keeps building year after year. So, we're making some inroads in
that. Uh, organics is growing. We've got some more places in Frys. We're going to try to move out to Corrod area. Barry, if you could help us with that, uh, this summer um to to get some sites out there. >> Our organics program. >> Thought you needed a truck. >> We'd use your truck, too, if you'd let
us. >> Um Um, and also we we will be doing a tire recycling thing this spring. I don't know what the parameters will be for that yet, but we're going to do it. We're going to try it. >> Tractor tires included, >> maybe. I mean,
>> tractor, truck tires, >> for you, Barry. >> I got, >> you know, Richard said it. We were sitting in a meeting last month and he said, you know, those people are taxpayers, too. And, you know, we want to do just just car tires, but, you know, >> farmers have paid a lot of money in the last couple years in property tax. >> They have. So, we're trying to figure
out I asked Steve to come up with some costs. You know, what would it be if we got a,000 tires, 2,000 tires, 500 tires? So, we're going to see what the county is going to have to have to come up with. But you know what? It cleans up our county. That's our mission out
there. It it'd be money well spent. Um but how how it how we make it fair to everyone is what he's still working on. >> You know, most most times when you go and get your tires changed now, >> they just keep them in charge. You disposal automatically. I mean, back in the day, you never left your tires
there. So, >> yeah. But to us, it's just by the pound. >> My whole time, my whole life, I've always left my tires. >> Left them. >> Yeah. I must be way younger than you guys >> or or I don't want to say that or a lot richer
than us. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, >> I don't think so. >> We'll be doing that in the spring. There'll be some form of some will be free, some may be reduced cost, some may go by the pound if people are bringing in, you know, those off silage piles and stuff. So, we're trying to come up with that right now. >> And you still got that commissioner's
free for everything? >> No, we don't have that, Barry. Um, the other thing, uh, two other things. I mean, we, last, last last meeting, we implemented a, uh, a policy, the heater policy. No problem. But Brian McDonald
sent out that window thing. I mean, what are we doing with the courthouse? Why, are we going to do something about that or uh, to solve that issue? I mean, they got to have heaters because the windows are leaking so bad and they're frosting up. I mean, are we going to do something about that or is that in
>> warm now? Well, but then next year's coming. >> We'll worry about it next year. >> I just don't want to. >> No, really. We should >> He made a good point and >> somebody in maintenance look at that. >> I think maintenance has looked at it. It's extensive. I mean,
>> basically, I think what you're look >> Turn on my mic for you. Um, maintenance has looked at that and really what it's what it would be is replacing windows. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Is it just the windows or is the wall
that cold too? >> That too. >> So >> he heating different heat. I mean I I know that it's been looked at by Brent and by and he may have even had somebody from the outside looking at that. Um we can certainly move forward with you know
figuring out what the fix to that would be. >> I think we have to. I mean >> I don't disagree. >> It's going to be it's a 40-year building 40 years more left. So I we may as well fix the problem. Now >> you talk about electric on on that. >> We're all gone by then.
>> There's there's several different there's some some different options and I know in his conference room and I've talked to Brian myself too. Um you know the windows in that conference room. I mean they they're concerned about their conference room and it being only like 50° when it gets really really cold out.
I mean that's not real comfortable when you're working. >> I I get that. But you know if that's something that the board would like to prioritize. Well, so you're saying that if we replace the windows, it may not solve the problem because the walls. Is that what I'm hearing? I mean, we've looked at it, but we have >> I think there's some questions about
exactly what it would take to fix. >> I don't know if it's, you know, maybe the windows will would be better if we had some alternate another heat source that would >> Yeah. >> help that. >> Well, and what I recall from Brent when that was built, they used very uh I'll just say it very cheap material and you
know, that's what we have. Mhm. >> Can we can we at least get Brian an answer? I mean, he deserves that. I mean, and I think the heat the heaters were his end to say, "Hey, the reason we need them is because the walls leak and
you know, it's cold." >> Yeah, I I I certainly can. I think the response is we can certainly have Brent requ it and then bring it back through. >> Well, I think we need to I think we need to see what the options are. I mean, maybe >> that's why I'm saying quoting different options. >> We just need a hardwired heater.
>> Heater. Yeah. >> An additional hardwire heater somewhere in each office. >> Mhm. >> Is that all the or just the conference room? >> The exterior meaning any exterior windows. Yeah. And I know that there's
some communication to um with regards to Brian recently when this came out as far as you know asking you know for specifically approved heaters that they could use up there on the temporary basis. But from what I recall from Brent is that those don't throw a lot of heat
either. So I don't know that that's going to be the problem solver. >> Is this one room? Is this the whole north wall? How many offices does this affect >> there? Yeah. >> One, two, three, four, five. Five in a conference room. >> Is the downstairs
>> Brian Brian's definitely the whole north wall. >> Is the court administration is that decent? You know, first floor. I haven't heard anything from them, but I haven't asked. >> Don't ask. And don't don't
>> Well, I I don't I don't want to put in windows and then have the same thing happen again if there's some other issue with it. But, you know, did you Who said baseboard heat? Would that >> I think you look hard. >> That's one of the solutions that has come up in the past. Oh, Brian. Brian
was there. >> Brian, do you have anything to add? Let's just bring that throw this back at committee at the courthouse and say let's let's let's see what if there's two options if there's three options. Um if windows I don't I'm not sold that the windows are going to cure anything.
>> So I would like to try if some see what the options are try something else first before we just throw windows in because >> if it doesn't help enough >> it's a waste. >> I mean we you know you could also put inserts in the windows too and make another if I just don't think it's the
window. I don't know. It's hard, but I'm no window expert either. So, >> let's get some options. >> See if we can solve that issue. Um, the other thing is just this is being in finance. I mean, this I really think that we have to come up with some kind
of a pay policy. We can't be going a year and then paying people um for and I'm talking about the EDA board, the board of adjustments, the rack, the extension. um if they meet monthly, I mean, we can't be going into the next year and then paying for last year's
meetings. I mean, that's 1099 issue. That's a tax issue. Um I I don't know what that looks like, but every finance we look at people and it goes back to last year when we're paying them for um I I don't know who whose
plate that falls on, but let's or put a policy in place. I don't know how we do that, but um >> well, the policy in place is 90 days, but we for our for our boards, >> we've always kind of looked the other way cuz um our board members, it's not
as easy to get board members, and it's it's it's kind of everyone knows what the cost is. It would it shouldn't be carried over. I mean, ideally, you should clear that up at the end of the year so it doesn't carry over. But, um, I think if you wanted to fix that, you
would just have whoever's managing that meeting at for the county, just give give expense reports and send it to them after every meeting. Have them sign an expense report. We do it, you know, any board you're at, the library at Lakeland Mental Health, you they you have a p
paper, you know, you could just pass it around at the meeting. Everyone check their mileage. Everyone check that they're there, initial it, and the admin and the >> and the supervisor of whatever >> meeting does that, the rack I think does that, Mitch does that. >> It would it would certainly be easy to do that and they would be paid right
after the meeting then. >> So when we say we've looked the other way, we've looked the other way after 90 days or >> yes, we well >> you can't not pay them if they're 90 days, >> right? That usually they have to put in a reason why. Um, but there was times
when there was commissioners >> that wouldn't do follow the 90. So, but I mean it's very easy. Just if if it's a meeting at planning and zoning, have Kyle send out every you have you have the list of all the people on it. You pass it to everyone on the board, check that you're initially you're there and
put your mileage down and and Kyle pays it after every meeting. It's that's easy to do. That's what we do at other ones. So, >> y um madam chair, we did have this discussion at the department head meeting. Um, and that was one of the suggestions that you have. You have it, you make it easier for those that are
coming, you know, to the meeting and have them hopefully fill it out while they're there. But also, you know, I think it's important to note that when you have these late requests, too, it can potentially affect our financial audit because things are so late. So, we
we we really do need to shore this up. I do agree with you. And some type of policy about what we can do and what we can't do as far as reimbursement. Did I state that correctly, Mary? >> Okay. >> I think the easiest is just handing a sheet out. I mean, >> I I think you absolutely should should
do that. You should also have >> Yeah. >> You know, something mimicking a timeline that you got to have it in. >> But then if you do it, then there's you're you're taken care of. It's done. >> Correct. Correct. Can >> can we give some board direction to signing every meeting, have our department heads that manage these
things? I think your direction would be to come up with a policy and and present that to the board for consideration is what I would suggest. >> Okay. >> I don't think it's a policy because our policy is vendors have to submit by 90 days. I mean, we have that already in policy and that's kind of a kind of a
standard. >> Um, >> seems like it's more of a practice. >> It's an it's an internal procedure for us that >> I mean it's just say give it out so we don't have this. I mean to whoever's if it's a NRM or a natural resource or and
whatever meeting it is >> if monthly meetings or quarterly meetings fill out the expense report at at the meeting that >> Kyle can do it. It's one sheet of paper. It says photocopied off. It's it's it doesn't take any time and >> y >> shoot it out to payroll.
>> Uh madam chair Mary with the 90day timeline have we have we told people we're not paying them after 90 days? I assume we're not saying that. >> We have not said that. We have implied that we will not be after 90 days, but
>> we we ask for explanation why if it goes past 90 days. >> That would be better than what we have today. >> That's that's what our policy is. And we've done this the sheriff's office done this a few times with hospital bills and >> they've been missed for a while. And then we go back and say, "What's going
on here?" And then we have you have some negotiation power too to say you know this this isn't appropriate. We're not paying a bill from a some of those were a year years old >> and then we negotiate down. It was like you know you can't bill us for something two years ago because we can't track we
can't go back and say what was this for? You know it's harder to say that this was a legitimate bill or not that you get out there. Well, and I think it it's especially troubling if you have, you know, expenses that go that were incurred in one year and then they are asking to be paid the following year,
you know, so don't even have it in the right budget year. >> Yeah. >> You want to have that as minimal as possible. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, let's do some followup on that and see if we can you said not change policy. Just >> I think it's inter inner >> inter >> I think it's I think it's pra you know
what I what what we had discussions was >> I didn't realize it was happen at the sheriff too. I thought this was just the boards, the exterior boards like the >> adjustment policy 90 days. >> Yeah. Okay. Um, one thing I forgot um
>> with uh environmental Richard and I had this we were talking about this um so currently uh about possibly adding a new driver. Um currently we have two full-time recycling route drivers. We have one full-time MSW municipal solid
waste transfer driver, one full-time uh transfer transfer station worker, one part-time driver uh for MSW and recycle driver, and the mechanics and the managers are are backups. So, I'm really glad that they have a backup plan out
there, but uh Steve said we we need another driver. >> Um >> well, we're short right now and it's not summertime yet. So that will be coming down the road. >> So what happened now? >> Well, we added organics.
>> We I mean there's there's there's a lot more going on and we don't want to take >> our department heads to be the backup drivers when somebody's sick or taking paid medical leave. We we we have to get this stuff to where it's going.
>> Can we Can Kevin do it from transit? Because he drives buses all the time. >> Just kidding, Kevin. Kevin do it at night. >> So do it at night. >> Well, the the thing I would like to see then is I mean how how I mean besides just raising tipping fees, where is the
money coming from from >> we're going to he's mocking something what it would look like >> and that's what I mean it's nice that we have all these programs in recycling and organics and but >> at what cost? I mean, where does where
does the cost where do the cost where do we get reimbured for >> um the expenses of this? I mean, is it just tipping fees that we're saving for at the >> at the incinerator? So, >> well, and this is the problem with recycling and and growing. I mean, we've
been growing and I'm not so so sure we should keep growing. We have been growing out there and you can't you can't keep growing without so I'm I'm I'm I'm against growing anymore at the landfill for >> So just just just to put this in
perspective. Okay. So right now we have some sheetrock up there. We're we've got a plan that we're going to do some sheetrock recycling. Well the big picture is we're keeping the sheetrock out of the landfill. That's a good thing. Okay. Then the next question is
at what cost? Yeah. >> So, we're bringing a grinder in. >> Actually, there he is right there. We're bringing a >> use a grinder. >> We're bringing a grinder in that and and we're we're we're subsidizing some of the cost to come in to see if we can grind the sheetrock. We're going to put
it in big totes. We're going to put the totes aside. We're going to try to sell it to put it on farmers fields or something like that. Well, none of that has been determined yet. We got to get it ground first. We got to get the paper out of it. Um so, we are trying some things. Um well that's is it said I
>> and that one that one should come out for us. We've already >> got tipping fees on the sheetrock. So and we're looking at getting paid for it once it's done. That's and that's probably not going to take us so much time. But this recycling this organics
which organics is important for Prairie Lakes and other places but still it all costs money and so I don't know what you do there. What is the value? Okay, Prairie Lakes was decided several years ago. We pay
twice as much to say take stuff over to Prairie Lakes as we do to put it in the landfill. Is that a good thing? From my year on the board, I would say, you know what, that was a good investment. That that is a good thing. Um to burn it rather than bury it, but it costs all of
our taxpayers. It's it's 160 bucks to take it over there. It's 80 bucks to per ton to put it in the landfill. That decision was made. I came into it. But but I I see some advantages to it. Was that the cheapest way to go? No. Was
it the right thing to do? I mean, everybody can make up their own mind um on that. So, I mean, this waste disposal, it just costs money. We're talking about liners now in these CND landfills. It's the right thing to do for the environment. I mean, what what are going to we going to be told we have
to do or >> I >> we should be doing it anyway. We should have a liner in there. I don't care. We I know it costs money, but we shouldn't be polluting the aquifer. And we have. We've polluted it, and it's You can't fix it now, and we should quit
doing it. But >> that's all I got. >> Thank you for letting me. >> Well, good job, >> Madam Chair. I'll I'll um I handed out the Lakeland Mental Health um annual report. Look at at your leisure. Um we
did end up in the positive uh 1.7% positive obviously if you want if you look in more in depth we didn't meet budget I didn't meet our income budget but we then reduced all obviously expenses too so we had a 1.7 I won't it's profit or or to the blacks um let
you look through that um so I don't know UK care is um owes Becker owes Lakeland health 37 357,000 for 25 and they're probably, you know, they're not paying bills anymore. >> So, they expect to get some of that
back. Um, and I don't really know all the details on why UKare is is not moving forward and paying, but >> yeah, that was one of the with the over at human services, UKare was one that we quit providing case management services.
>> Yeah, there must be not in business or done. Um, >> we have >> meaning they went out of business or >> I think they're being bought out by a different I think they're don't quote me on that. >> They're not they're they're not paying
if any new any bills that weren't submitted they're not they're not even paying them. So, um anyway, that's Lake M mental health. Um we had um extension and they doing very
well. They did have a heating problem over did Carrie, do you know if that got fixed? The heating over at the extension office? >> I Brent had referenced that they had been over there doing some work. I don't know the specifics. >> Okay. Um
we had updates from um Elliot and we don't have anyone going to Washington this year at 4, but there was a group last year that went any >> other than Elliot. >> Yeah. I I I was going to mention something. I don't know that we want Becker County paid people going
>> out of state for I mean we're not paying for the university, but that takes away hours from county involvement, too. And >> um >> Yeah. And I don't know if he he had said that he was obligated to go. I don't know if >> he was his second year in as the chair or something
>> and they made some changes to the program. >> Um few highlights in Master Gardener. Oh, Sandy could probably chime in. Please feel free to chime in any time you want. Sandy. Sy's on the board there, too. Um we have 26 master
gardeners. They completed 1378 hours of volunteer work for and in kind contribution back to Becker County. Um again, we've said this numerous times, the volunteerism rate in Becker County is amazing between extension, the library, um numerous numerous groups in
the Detroit Lakes area and surrounding area. Um I will pass this out too if you want to take a quick look at that. I won't highlight everything for everyone. The only thing I wanted to add to that is that's the third straight year to have more than 1300 hours of volunteer
um back to the community by the master gardeners. >> Um I went to >> Lake Agy Regional Library. We had we're discussing changing the formula as you know to because um right now we're on the formula is based on usage and
population and tax value. Um, Becker County besides our link site has no actual libraries where Klay County has um, Barnesville and Holly and you get up north and there's all these little towns have libraries. So, we're looking at an actual cost basis um,
where Becker County is overpaying if you look at at that scenario and Detroit Lakes is overpaying. So, Becker and Detroit Lakes are overpaying into Lake Agassy Regional Library System for the services if you use that formula. So, I'm pushing that we go to that formula. It's it's about $40 to $50,000 annually
that we are paying. You could say more I mean in that formula more than what we would be. Um but there's like Pulk County which has numerous little libraries. They're way under I mean way underwater over 100,000 underpaying. >> So we're looking at if we do that are
could we do a >> five-year transitions or I would push it try to be less than that but um it's a big hit for those smaller counties too. So, we would have an increase next year, but it shouldn't be as large as this year. Hopefully, we move forward. Um
Dave and I had a meeting with with um Carrie about about um probation and we would like to review and I think we've been approached by other counties um to go in county managed probation. So, we've asked Carrie to look into that for
us and we've done some research to um what the pros and cons of that will be or have been. So, we'll probably update the board in the future about if we transition. >> I do have just a quick update to give on my report, but >> Okay. Okay. So, we'll touch on that. Also, >> um we had the sheriff's committee
meeting. Um there is a a resignation for deputies. So, that's going it's not coming to board. Um we talked about seasonal boat and water staff. Um that's not coming to board either because of how we're moving
forward. And I I didn't obviously know my opinion. I don't think we I think that was a $41,000 for and that's just for the seasonal. Um I said the board has weighed their opinion on that. Um I
think we could go down to one of those deputy those seasonal part-time instead of two. That would save us 20,000. >> Madame Chair, Commissioner Nelson, I mean I I don't think the board has weighed in on that. I mean we know where you stand at our budget. Nobody had any
appetite for reducing the budget. >> Mhm. >> When we sat here in the budget meeting, nobody sat and gave any support reducing the budget. >> And so that's where you mean y >> that the board has spoke there. >> The the the water patrol >> if we cut instead of two I mean we have
two full-time that do boat and water and we have two seasonal. >> Is that correct? >> And if we reduce it to one seasonal, we'd have save $20,000. Now, there's there's federal and state monies that come in, but we are putting our money
into that also. So, that's why it's not before you. I just I said the board has said they didn't have the appetite to reducing a budget, and that's so I left it at that. I did want to point out there are more fatalities in bathtubs than than there is in um off off speed
boats. There were in state of Minnesota there was zero. >> Stop. Well, I mean, you look at it though, where are the death? I mean, there were nine drownings uh from boating accidents last year in the state or in 24 in in and they're mostly canoes and kayaks.
>> You could attribute that to the deputies out there that are preventing the deaths. >> Well, that that would be a stretch, but you could do that. Um it certainly doesn't hurt when you have proper when people do it properly. And you if you know there's deputies out there, you are more >> Mhm. >> Um I I just question some of the stops
that we do have. I think it's uh it's not deterring. I'm I'm just saying it boat safety. There's more fatalities in bathtubs than there is in the state of Minnesota in 24 than there was off speed boats and jet skis. There was zero off
of those. Um so where are you I mean what's your goal trying to stop drownings? It's we have drownings of of of people drowning just walking. I mean, I don't know if they're suicides or but the state has these categorized on their web. You can Google every one of all the
there was nine drownings affiliated with boats. One was off a pontoon. Guy was reaching for his hat and he fell in and drowned. I mean, they're detailed on how the drownings work. >> Yeah. I just don't but I'm going to have to disagree with you Barry because I'm not seeing the connection that >> I'm just I'm just saying no death means
>> I'm just saying where do you how do if we're trying to prevent drownings >> Mhm. >> we should do education on on on there was a johnboat drowning two two canoes a kayak um a pontoon I mean >> I'm just saying education and those in
those non-motorized ones is they're they're more dangerous because people make the assumption that they're safe and they're not. Madam Chair, Commissioner Nelson, uh, presence, just being out there, whether they ever write a ticket or not, is important to me. Having presence, I think, gives people
comfort that, hey, the sheriff's out here, too. I mean, that's just my opinion. Whether they write a ticket or citation or not, they stop and say, "How's it going?" or "How's the fishing?" I think that presence on the water is important. That's just my opinion.
So anyway, um we talked about the processing fees, the um the boarding the boarding fees at the jail. I think that was all in the >> that's all in the >> packet. We talked about the nursing nursing hours. >> One thing we talked about is the courthouse cameras. Yep.
>> Um did we get those shrubs cut at all? Um, Madame Chair, I I have spoken to Brent and and indicated that that's the discussion that we had at the sheriff's committee. So, he was waiting, but I said, uh, don't wait. >> Um, so, but
that is the direction. It has an >> blocking the camera view. >> So, that is the direction that I gave Brent to go ahead and remove those. >> Those are the kind where you have to trim them all the time. So, if you trim those, they'll die. So, we might as well just cut them off. >> Well, I think I think the plan was to
change take them out and put >> and then pull them out in the spring and put something smaller in. >> I think his reluctance was if you cut them now in the winter, they'll die. But I think I I don't think we can avoid that as my what I told him that it's a safety concern. So, this is the I gave
him a BCA. One of the concerns they had was securing the courthouse on views of of all the door accesses. >> Yeah. Nope. I I would agree. So, and there is a a couple cameras that maybe need to be adjusted or or
>> re realigned somehow to get better views. I and I thought we should probably talk to Judy in courthouse about that >> cuz I thought those cameras were um we could even read license plates in the parking lot and I saw pictures and there was what you I mean unless you can focus on the camera somehow but
>> you can see the license plate you can't >> um >> one one other thing on the court the also the BCA said that we need to have uh wind window breakage alarms >> in So, >> yeah.
>> Yeah. And if someone broke into a secure office. >> Yeah. >> Um and that's that's a very easy fix or a very minimal fix that would fall under the >> um threshold of cost to move forward. >> Um I think that's it.
>> All right. I'll go next. Erica and I had a fair board meeting. Um they are they had to submit their their what they what their things they want to use for the aggre for the agre grant and the legacy grant.
So the agre grant has to do with uh what agriculture I guess and then the legacy grant is education. So, like for example, all of the events that are under the Big 10 at the fair, they can be covered by
the legacy grant cuz they're >> like cultural. >> Cultural educational. Yeah. And also too, like the schoolhouse, if they fix something on the schoolhouse or the log cabin out there because they use them for educational purposes, that that qualifies for that too. The biggest
thing they talked about for the egg grant though is they would like to have a leanto between the manifolds building and the beef barn because there's a lot of people that go out there. There's a lot of animals that are out there and it's sometimes it's raining, sometimes it's really sunny and hot and it needs
to be needs to be shady. Yeah. >> Yep. >> So they had and they have to turn those in. Uh we all they also did some they're going to talk about the horse barn. So, they've had they have a I don't know if they have an official agreement with
JNK, but they have a kind of a tentative plan. Um, they have they've they haven't decided how they're going to do it yet, but JNK would like to help finance a new horse barn so they can then use it for their boat storage in the winter time.
And I think it would work out great. I think it would be it would be awesome. But they there's some obviously there's some logistics that they have to be able to do. The stalls are going to be a little more expensive because they have to be foldable. >> That if that's a word. >> Fold inable.
>> Fold inable. Yeah. So, they they're working on it. And then they also are going to they're also that sign that sits out in the parking lot and the gravel part that has the Becker County Fair sign. They're going to upgrade that a little bit. They're going to upgrade the top and then the bottom. They're just going to put in be able to put in
like corrugated plastic for just the so they can change the dates without making a whole new sign and then they then so then the sign the the part of the top part of the sign will be permanent and be then the bottom part will be adj you know changeable and then the last thing
um I talked to Carrie about this a little bit they there's a organization an archery organization that would like to rent or lease the transit building in this fall to shoot archery not not obviously every day, but they'd like.
So, we don't have any policy for doing that. So, if we are going to do that, we have to come up with that in in the future or by maybe by that time we will figure out what we're going to do with that building and maybe the fair board will have that
it'll be their issue to do. I I don't know. So, I just thought I'd bring that up because it is it we eventually will need to figure something out for the what we're going to do with that building and then this if we want people to use the building if we still own it then we want to >> Well, I don't >> Yeah,
>> Madam Chair, I for archery >> it'd be be I don't have a problem with archery going in there, but I don't know if they can. I mean, we should be renting that out to somebody for some income. I mean, this is I mean, how long are we going to >> sitting there empty? and the the
extension middle too. >> Yeah, that I I I asked I asked them about >> revenue sitting there that we're not capturing and we should be doing that. >> And I asked about the middle part of the extension can that be used for archery and and they didn't know cuz they hadn't >> the middle part of
>> well the big office or the big open I guess the back part I guess >> not the middle part >> I think they need 20 yards or >> 60 ft. Yeah. >> Then they have room to move around in behind and so
>> that's I think that's the max he goes 20 yards. >> Yeah. >> Uh and then I is there anything else in the fair board? >> Um just that there's um discussion to increase judge fees. >> Oh that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Just that that we're one of the lower paid counties for um judge fees and so
they want to make sure that we're getting good qualified >> judges so they're considering increasing the judge fees. >> Yeah. And we are really low. >> Like, wow. Why would a judge come to >> Yeah. I mean, there were some that were >> like
>> like a couple hundred $200 two to $300 lower. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> You're talking like cattle judges. >> Cattle judges. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rabbit judges >> and exhibit judges. >> Yeah. And then just like everybody else's insurance, there was theirs went up 10%. >> Another thing, too, is they're um
looking into uh the fish tanks. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. Yep. Yep. redoing the fish tanks to that >> if they can get some funds for that. >> That was on the >> the ag >> the agre grant. Yeah. >> All right. And then I had a DAC meeting.
Um we the the grant from T-Mobile that we that we signed off on as a county for the ADA swings is in the works. We have a plan. Um it's been sent to T-Mobile. We're going to have a cement slab. We're going to have the swings on it. Then we're going to maybe have a shaded area
um with a picnic table, the ADA picnic table. The only problem is is it's cost way more than we thought it would. So, we're going to have to scale it down a little bit, but that's fine. It'll it'll be it'll be a good good thing to have
for um the clients to use to use out on the use use outside when it's nice out. >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Meyer, you're talking about playground. Were you talking about adding on to the building too? So, is that still in the works or does the playground take the place of that? >> Nope, that's still in the works. >> So, it's all of that.
>> Yeah. So, the so the slab will be done by the construction company that is going to do our remodel inside and then the the rest of it will be paid for through the grant. Yeah. So, that's my next thing on here. So, we had a meeting
with Hammers Construction in our last uh last board meeting, and we have they gave us some preliminary costs for the remodel project, the time frame. Um, not exact, but it's we we're going to have to vacate the building on the current plan for about 6 months. So, we're going
to have to find a place to go. Um, we we have people working on that. We haven't come up with a an op good option or a decent we haven't come up with a decent option yet, but we're working on that. But I tell you what, we're going to that's building is going to be nice when
it's done. It's going to be very you the space inside is going to be very usable for the DAC. Um so we're looking at maybe trying to get the cost down. The original the the middle the the middle part landed at like 1.7 million. Uh so
we're trying to get that down to about a million and a half uh or maybe a little bit less. Um, but we'll see. We There's some things we can cut out of it. >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Meyer, what what is the county's role at the DAC? >> I mean, we don't have any funding,
right? >> The county pays waiverss for county clients to the DAC >> through our social services then. >> Correct. That's it. >> That's it. >> Yep. >> And we have So, you have But you you're on the board. >> But I'm on the board representing. >> Yeah. I'm I'm on I was appointed by this
board. similar to like Mahubi like I'm on the Mahubi board as a representative for Becker but we don't >> but it goes through our social services department we don't because like we appropriate for the library we give money to the fair board different this goes through >> this is advisory >> yeah we don't we don't appropriate money
to them no um and then we also have three new inhome services clients or residential clients so of course when we get more clients we need to probably get another vehicle so we have a lot of vehicles at the DAC Um, and then next week we are conducting interviews for
our executive director position. So hopefully by the end of next week we have a new executive director and that's all I have. >> All right. >> Well, I had environmental bill and I don't have anything to add to that. And
then I had EDA with Erica um where we're talking about we're required to do lead paint inspections on our >> on our homes >> and it's ridiculously expensive and the
worst thing is that if there's lead paint then we just got to paint them. Well, we could paint them all of them >> for less than it cost to do the inspection. So, it's it's very we've been going through this at the board.
>> None of us want to do it. We're going to have to do it. >> It's a requirement of HUD. >> It's a requirement. It's terrible. But, um, yeah. And, uh, so that's that. And then, >> Barber. So, we're just going to go ahead and paint them. >> No, that's what I that's what we want to
do, but we can't. >> Can't we can't we say that they're all lead and we just we're going to paint them? Can't we accept that they're all lead? So this this is something that we should have been doing should have done >> painting. >> No, no, this lead testing many many years ago, but there's never been people
in the area. So we've always gotten a >> waiver >> waiver or an exception. >> What happens though >> if we have lead paint and then we paint it? What happens in when you demo it? Is there going to be oh, we got a that's all contaminated material or I mean what
what happens with that designation that it's got lead paint in this house? >> I don't know. That's a whole another story. >> But I mean, >> but yeah, it gets really, you know, they even they're even going to do soil tests, >> which is amazing to me because soil
comes, you know, people are moving soil around all the time. What do you So, they're going to do a soil test in the yard, too. It's it's it's a big waste of money in my opin. We should just paint the >> So, but we're going to have to do it. >> We have to do it. >> Our HUD required.
>> Mhm. >> Yeah. We've been trying to get around it. We we're going to have we're going to have to >> I imagine there's only I mean anything before what year? >> Uh 19 >> 77 or something. >> Yeah. 74. >> Yeah. So we're >> 18 houses meet that criteria. >> How many?
>> 18 of our houses. >> Yeah. >> So we're looking at just under 71,000. >> Yeah. It's ridiculous. >> And we have the capital funds. We have $65,000 in capital funds that the federal government provides us to
provide or, you know, do maintenance and and other projects on our houses every year. But that was already designated. I think we're going to do a couple roofs and some flooring. And so what that means is now that capital funds will
have to go to this lead testing instead of, >> you know, all of our work will have to get put off for a year. >> Yeah. instead of shingles and important things, we're going to Yeah. So, >> that's the government for you. Um, and then we are we're we're working on
starting the an EDA loan fund. So, maybe maybe get grants for this fund. And with that fund, we could maybe, you know, give loans to small business. We could maybe do housing. Um, I don't know. So,
we've talked to a couple different ones like one specific for housing and one for small >> business startup >> like gap funding I think is what we call it. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we don't I don't know. That's everything goes really slow there. But that's what that's what we're
working on. I don't know if that's all I have here. Unless you want to add something to that. >> Yep. Just a couple things. Our RFP for Maple Avenue closes on Friday. So, we will have the bid opening for that and Cody believes we'll probably have at least three three bids to to review. So,
that's good. And then just an update on our housing. All of our public housing units are full. Um we're currently assisting 48 families with housing choice voucher. So, that's a voucher that will help pay for their rent. And then we have 227 people on the waiting
list for that housing voucher. Um, Maple Avenue is full and then two we have two openings at West River Town Homes here in DL, but there are applications so that they will likely be filled. So, >> well, we have 227.
>> Did you have any other reports or were you done? >> No. >> Okay. Um, then the only thing I wanted to add on extension was the extension office will no longer do the pressure test the pressure for pressure cookers.
Um, which has always been that's where you brought your pressure cookers to check to make sure. So the U of the University of Minnesota has decided to continue that. So >> discontin >> discontinue that sorry. So now the only way to do it is you have to mail it in
somewhere and that there was a lot of discussion and concern at the meeting. >> You do that for liability issues or >> Yes. They dis liability. >> So >> I didn't know that was a thing. >> Mhm. Now, if you don't, I'm not a caner, but if you don't cook things properly
and pressure them properly, they could be contaminated or have the >> be serious illness or death. >> Food. >> Otherwise, that was all I had. The rest of my committees were covered by >> Yeah.
>> Somebody else. Yep. >> All right. >> I do have a meeting at 5, you know, >> five o'clock tonight. We might make you might be able to make it. >> I have a meeting at 5 also, but mine's in the cities. >> Um, do we have any appointments?
>> Madam Chair, we we will have one coming shortly with EDA. Uh, Rachel is my district. Rachel, I can't remember her last name. Johnson. >> Uh, yeah, she's moving on to something else. So, and I've got a likely candidate, so I think we should be okay there. We were going to post. I talked
to Cody about posting it and then should have a candidate. >> That happened already. >> Okay. >> April probably. >> Okay. >> Her name's April. >> In April. >> In April. >> All right. Anything else? >> 1. April. >> All right. Otherwise, we'll move on to
county administrator report. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I with probation and our discussions about uh potentially going to a community corrections model. I did receive some additional information after we had met
uh from Brian. I had asked him to send me a listing of all of his employees and job descriptions. So really the next step would be to have those graded by Tessa and do some cost analysis on on what that would look like if they were
to if we were to go to that model. So that is uh moving and I know Tier has agreed to assist with that as well. But so everybody, if I'm understanding correctly, everybody in probation now employed by Minnesota Department of Corrections would then
>> transfer over >> transfer over and become >> that would be the goal. >> Yeah, >> there's there's um and other counties have have talked to me or commissioners have talked to me. the state is changing the changes the state is changing the
for formulas and funding and they're they are um the burden on the counties will increase >> significantly um so this is kind of looking at how we can maybe get ahead of that and have as good a service or
better service also I mean >> madam chair what what are we talking about for employees like how many does how many are at the DOC >> five 10. >> I feel like it's five. >> Oh, I think it's >> I think it's more than that. >> I didn't look. I just got it last night.
I guess >> I want to say there's like seven probably >> six >> maybe eight. >> So, and so there's a pot of money that the state allocates them that follows them regardless if they're with with the county or with them. Um that pot of money does not um pay for the whole
budget. We actually contribute Oh, I guess I got the number here. 372,000 >> we contribute to that fund already or to offset that 319,000 currently. So um there is
>> the and then they also fund. >> So m Madame Chair, Commissioner Nelson, where does that flow? Does that flow through sheriff or jail or where where does DOC if you say the county funds that where where is that money? I don't see that. >> Yeah, it's under the sheriff's department budget.
>> It's under the sheriff's office. >> It is. So, you know, with that the really our conversation is, you know, I think in Beck, well, I don't think I know in Becker County, you know, we have uh we work very very well with our probation
officer office here and you know, and what's happening across across the state as people are shifting and moving and positions are opening that, you know, can create shifting in staffing here potentially. So if we want to continue
with the staff that we have, this might be the option in order to keep current >> correctional staff. That was probably one of the top reasons that we were having. >> If somebody has more seniority, they can bump that person and move them out of Becker County >> from from another area.
>> From another area. Correct. >> Yeah. So, so if we currently pay 319,000 I think you said to probation, >> is there other funding if we bring it into this community corrections model? Is there funding from the state that
>> there's funding from them that comes follows them? And that's I think 300. Is that the three? >> I did write it down. >> Maybe that's the 390. So, we're still only looking at right at $600,000
that we're still going to have to >> pay it. >> Well, budgetary. >> I think we have to find out a little more information and stuff. That's but we're just getting to that point. There is opportunity because right now they lease a bill. I think that well we're getting in the weeds a little bit too
far too much. I think I think Carrie can give a little update as we get more information. >> So, my point Yeah. My point in bringing it up is that I'm getting some additional information and I uh my plan would be to put together that information and then then you guys I'll
bring it back and then you guys can decide you know when >> Madam Chair go timeline like does it have to happen before some time or this is just something we can take at our own pace? >> Um >> both. >> So there is a timeline but we can take it at our own pace. >> If if we choose to we can not do it at
all or take it however fast or slow. think there are some things that you would want to consider on how how expedited you'd want to do it and I think Carrie will bring that to you and let you know what those are. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think the the main parts of that are that the state budget obviously
is on a different timeline than ours, you know, potentially with bumps and if we want to try to maintain staff here and they want to stay here, that would be probably the other critical part. So,
um I met with um a couple of gentlemen from the Lake Ida Lake Association, Stan and Steve, and they were presenting. Um it'll come back before this board, but just kind of want to give you a quick update.
Um they have some needs on their lake specifically for drainage. And so, um, we'll be coming back to, you know, potentially ask board, um, for board approval for forming a lake improvement
district specific to their lake. They have some, um, a a drainage system that was put in quite some time ago that they're anticipating will need repairs down the road. Um I don't believe in Becker County. I think maybe they reached out to was yes
and and I didn't know about uh lake improvement district option. Um there's a little bit little tiny bit of this in in Ottertale County and correct >> um it's just not to form a joint powers for that would be not >> I think they're talking to to to fix or
to replace what's currently there to because it's it's starting to need repair. It's about 60,000 I thought I think. So they said 60 to 80. >> So um form a lake improvement district then then all our role would be to be taxing that lake improvement district to pay for that
>> on behalf of it's not a financial thing for us. It's a pass through. Um, we currently >> You're welcome, Mary. More work. >> Well, there's a we charge administration fee. So, it's not it's a it's not a cost to bring
>> it's a service to our people. We have we Soil and water does a toad lake improvement. I mean, there's numerous ones that we taxing districts that we >> So, anyway, that'll be coming um in in the future.
Um there has been some some continued work done with regards to the landfill road. I know Steve had posed a few questions and and things that he had with regards to as he's pricing out, you know, fencing and gates and all of those
things. And so I will be following up with um uh Charlie and ask some questions on behalf of Steve. and then hopefully we'll have a a package in the near future put together with pricing that will become before the committee
and then before the board for final approval. So that is that is uh moving in the right direction and I think oh reminder Becker Bay auction um items are due uh Friday and
the auction the auction excuse me starts uh March 17th and runs through March 24th. I had sent all of you a um uh legislative priorities and then I had just gotten some information from the sheriff and from Judy and I'll try to
include that. That's why I just kind of sent it to let you all know what I had gotten thus far. I'll put that together in packets for you and have that available when we're down um at our conference. Um, I don't know if any of you I know I sent it last night, so I
don't know if any of you have had any additional time to even look at it probably. Um, but if there's anything that off the top of your head that you want me to modify or take off, please let me know and I can certainly do that and then make copies that and have that
available for you. I'll add again the last couple of uh um things are the one item that you had sent via email. I will also include that as well. >> Um let's see here. Susan uh Severson had
uh indicated that there's a house file 1567 that's looking to expand. Do you know how with the current um judges they're able to hide their real estate property so you can't uh though the general public doesn't have access to the information? There's a house file
that is looking at expanding that to legislators and also it looks like peace officers. Were you aware of that sheriff? >> I heard one. >> Okay. So, she just said that to me that and and this is part of what we, you know, kind of predicted that it would
probably start extending to, you know, other individuals outside of right now. It it's it's pertains to judges. And I know we ran through an exercise here in county with the different departments that have a a um piece on that and did a
a workflow and and uh a tracking mechanism to make sure that it got done when >> I think was Judy or Mary brought up a good question. What happens if they are delinquent in their taxes and we are required to publish them? >> I I think that's a question that we potentially should be asking. I don't
know that anybody's I I have not heard that question asked, but that's a great question. >> So, they did it for safety issues like so people can't track you down. Is that >> they don't have your home address? >> They don't have access to like Yeah. on our system, our online system.
>> I think you could Google it though anywhere and it'll pop it up. >> Well, exactly. I think if you truly Yeah, they're just not they're making it harder for people. That's what I would say about it. Um I think that's all that I have in my report. The next item that I have is um
wanting to have discussion with the board about the potential or possibility and direction of looking um mayor as you all know Mary has sent a notice to the board that she does not intend to file
for reelection. Um she has not given a timeline because she wants to stay out as uh for as long as ever. So, she has not given an actual timeline as far as when when she potentially will be uh
exiting. >> It's safe to say it's on or before December 31st. >> On or before >> January 5th. >> Okay. It's on or before January 5th, 2027. >> Yes. >> Correct. So I
>> most likely before >> so there according to me >> there's specific circumstances in uh statute that uh allow for a board to move from an elected position to an appointed position and the statute I
believe was that included in the packet? Okay. Oh, you got it up there? Yes. Um so Mary has given notice um with regards to her intent not to file for reelection. So that would be under uh two and then there's a oops a couple of
other applicable >> 65 64 and 65 66 um I just when I when I read this statute it it's I think it's one and two or three and I
we do not have one we do not have a vacancy. >> What do you mean it's one and two or three? one, if you read it, you have to have one and two or you have to have three. So, we don't have an official resignation. So, we don't have a vacancy. If you look under the statute
that determines what a vacancy is, there's eight things that determine a vacancy. And the one that applies here would be a resignation. We don't have that. >> Correct. >> So, I don't think we can do this until we have that.
>> Well, we need to do it. Can we get that? Well, we we I'm just looking at this whole thing and when you look at the requirements to be our auditor, treasurer, it's it's alarming that we
would you have to be 18 years old and that's it. >> What is this? 375. >> This is a >> this is a very important position. Um, we're very fortunate to have you, Mary, but we may not get somebody that's qualified if we if we we're limited only
to Becker County. Uh, we can't make any requirements on this person. This is a very important job and and and I'd love it if you'd stay. I know you're not going to, but I'm so afraid of what we could end up with if we leave this as
elected. Um, we can't we can't put any requirements on it. You just have to be 18 years old. And >> what's a requirement for your position? >> It's not the same thing, Mary. I don't have to. You're in charge of a $75 million budget and all of our voting.
>> That I'm not in charge of that. I'm here to make policy. And that does not it's not the same thing that you're doing. Um and we could we could be in a lot of trouble if we get the wrong person. We can be in trouble here, but there's five
of us. Okay. And if you get somebody that's completely out of line, the the other four are going to take care of take care of >> I mean I >> but but this position is different and and and we're limiting we're asking
somebody only from Becker County to to do this job when we we could go anywhere in the country if we and and we could actually vet the person that's going to do it. And I I it scares me that this is an elected position. It really does.
>> I mean, I I think that there are other places in statute, and of course, I'm not an attorney and I don't can't tell you. I mean, I would I would think if it says one and two, it would say and instead of a semicolon. The or means
one, two, or three. I don't think it means one and two or three. And to be uh madam shared that is how I read it and and just to be completely transparent I did ask Brian if we had met the statutory requirement and uh he did not
believe so because he was citing creating the vacancy because we did not have an end date for the for uh resignation. So I that that is >> but we know but we know that there will be a vacancy. >> It just hasn't happened yet. So, what
happens? I mean, I know Mary has given you a letter and email. What happens if she changes her mind and files an affidavit of candidacy in May? You don't have a vacancy. >> I But I think she could even if she even if she said, "I'm going to be done July 1st in a letter." >> Well,
>> she still can. >> A resignation is effective when the board accepts it unless there's unless she seeks to unwind it. How how do you get a how do you get a resignation from someone who just chooses not to run? >> I mean,
>> exactly. >> I don't think you can force it is my point. >> Well, I mean, there's I mean, I I I don't it just it the requirements are here are almost unmanageable. I mean, if if you go by I mean, if what you're saying I mean, and I don't I don't know
which is the best way to go on this one and but I think we want to move forward with having the option and investigating it. Um, >> in my opinion, um, Brian, I know I'm not an attorney, but if the board wishes to
make this position appointed, I suggest you schedule a public hearing, hear from the voters, hear from the taxpayers. There's enough time for you to do that. >> But if we wait, we'll run out of time. >> You will run out of time. May 6, we have
to publish the um aid of candidacy for the election. So, it says you need you must publish a proposed resolution notifying the public of the intent for two consecutive weeks
to be followed then by a public hearing which could which could be held at the March 17th meeting. >> And and I had sent out a potential timeline to all of you outlining exactly what this process potentially could look like if that's the
>> Well, Madam Chair, my suggestion is move forward with this timeline. have the public meetings at our board meetings or other and and we'll navigate this and >> we're we'll make sure we're compliant. I mean, we're not going to >> Yeah. >> circumvent if we find out we're not,
we're not. And if if I mean, we could ask for legislative approval to a point also. >> Um I mean, that's how we used to do it. They used to app allow that legislatively. That's how you got it. And every county was doing it. I mean, most counties probably now are appointed and the legislation finally got tired of
having each county come and say, you know what, this is how you do it. We're going to we're going to allow it this way. So, >> under these >> under these circumstances. So, we have a avenue. It's just the timeliness might be a issue for us. So, >> yeah. I mean, I think the more I read
this to me, it makes sense that one and two are separate because you could have a vacancy, you could have somebody walks off the job. I I mean you could have a vacancy without number two. >> We could we could find out we have a vacancy after the after the after Mary
doesn't file then we have a vacancy. >> Mhm. >> But we don't know for sure that. But if we move forward at the proper process, >> we're doing those timelines correctly and then if and if Mary chooses to run again, then we don't have vacancy and it's a mute point.
>> But we know the indication she's not planning on running. So, we're planning for the vacancy and doing the proper timeliness as we're planning for the vacancy and we'll know the vacancy is coming here when there's no filing or we receive a resignation >> and it she has notified us that she is
not going to run >> creating and Bri as Brian says if she decides that she's going to file by then we would have already decided we're not we would potentially have decided by that time if we're going to
>> go to an appointed. So, that's kind of a moot point in that if she decides and changes her mind, too late, Mary. If we decide to >> I'm not sure the legal things, but I think >> I think we can find those questions, answers to those questions as we move forward in the process.
>> I think we can move forward, but until I can't support it if we don't have a vacancy, and right now we don't have a vacancy. >> Well, I just throwing it out there. I mean, if we have a vacancy, I mean, we can go through this whole process, but when we come to vote on the resolution,
which will be will be >> potentially it could be the >> the >> So, you're saying you can't vote on a vacancy because we don't >> we don't have >> have a vacancy, but we're not we're not saying it's based on a vacancy. We're saying it's based on our current auditor
treasurer has informed us that she's not going to file. We could also have her we could also do this and say that we will have the we'll keep the auditor treasure on as long as she wants because that's a option in that >> in those laws too. The current auditor
treasur can sign off on this by saying we will keep you on as long as you you wish >> like appointing >> as an appointment. So even if Mary doesn't choose to ret resign or retire, we could come to
an agreement with her saying sign off on this and we will guarantee your employment tell you tell you resign or retire. So I mean I think we just continue down the process and have the open meetings and time will help us figure out the the avenues that we can
the options available. Mary, do you agree with that? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. So um and that is what is before you. There's no decision to be made today. It was just really having the discussion if you want to move forward with the process. So I had outlined a potential timeline for you. I had sent
that out to you. That would be my intent is to follow that timeline unless you want something different. >> Well, and by that time we will hear what the public has to say. >> Well, you would have the opportunity we I would suggest >> public hearings, right? I I would suggest that through you have your your
uh your public hearing during your board meeting or in set the time during the board meeting the next board meeting. >> That's fine. >> And we could take written and testimonial and online testimony. >> You could do all of that. Yes. >> I mean we should make that available for
people that can't or don't want to come specifically the meeting and we'll have a guideline. State your name, address >> and then give your comments and we'll for the public record. No. >> So, do we need we need to pass a resolution 3261E?
>> No. >> Which sets our public hearing? >> No, you don't. I you have to make available the resolution to the public of your intent that you are moving in this direction. I I would also offer I know Mary had a correction on the date
because we've talked about December 31st versus January 5th. I would like to take another look at this uh draft resolution, make sure we have the language correct. >> Um the only question that I had is whether or not, and we've had some internal and I'll get the answer,
whether or not the full resolution has to be advertised in our paper or if it just has to reference back to the website. I feel like the whole thing should be just to be transparent. But so it's a potential draft resolution
that is being considered. So, do do we need we don't need the resolution though to set the public hearing on March 17th. >> It has to be available to the public of what you're considering the resolution and then you'll vote on the resolution after the public hearing. >> Okay. >> Does that make sense?
>> So, do we need a motion to set the public hearing on March 17th? >> Yes. >> Yes. Or >> saying yes. >> Yes. >> 9:00. I'll move to approve the resolution >> or another to set the public hearing public hearing
at 9:00 a.m. at our next board meeting. >> March 17th. >> March 17th. >> All right, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> All right, we have a second. Any further discussion? >> Yeah, I just want to say this probably
isn't a big deal, but we did not meet the 104day threshold either. Um, I had this discussion with Brian with 104 days and what he indicated is in statute and he can certainly come on again if you'd like. Um, doesn't define whether it's at the beginning or the end. So when I
counted it back, it was >> 105 days would be at the end. Yeah. >> So it I mean I know this is a relatively new law, but what's what's the remedy? How can you force an elected official to, you know, what if what if they change
their mind with their 104day notice? I just don't understand the the intent behind this statute. >> Um, Madam Chair, Brian, if I may, um, when I did count it back, um, I know you and I had talked about at the beginning
and the end the actual timeline of the filing dates. When I counted back, it it was within the 104 days at the tail end at the back end of the filing. >> Yeah. June sec June 2nd, I think, is 105 days, I think. >> Correct. So, she made it the day before.
So, I did count it back. Am I >> Yeah, I did. >> And we have a motion on the floor. >> Yep. We have a motion in a second. Any further discussion? I I just I think we need to do this, go
through this process, but we don't have a vacancy. That's my big hang up. >> We don't need a vacancy. >> Yes, we do. >> Um, Madam Chair, if I may, I I know Brian has given his opinion. I know I've read the statute. I am not an attorney. >> Mary's not an attorney. We have different opinions. Um, Brian is the
expert. Is there anything else you want me to do from a legal standpoint as far as >> I think the other like maybe we need to consult with other agency or other counties that have recently done this using the statute to see did they have
a vacancy if that's what we're saying we're needing. >> I think the other one is is if we come to an agreement with Mary and have her sign off on it. I think that also could could counter that vacancy question if Mary agrees to to I mean I think there I
mean you you could honor it and I mean you could say you're going to we'll give you the salary until you resign. I mean we're going to keep you on as long as you want and that would even give you till February or March of next year. So I'm think I'm just saying that I think there's another way to get out of your
question about a vacancy currently. I think you Mary signs that we the board agrees to keep you on as long as you as you wish unless you're >> I mean I just I just want to say if if what if how
Dave Commissioner Meyer is interpreting it this would be impossible to do for an auditor treasurer that wants to finish out their term. It would be impossible to be able to appoint one because we wouldn't have a vacancy.
would never have a vac. >> You're saying I'm going to finish my term. I don't plan to to run for reelection, >> right? >> We don't have a vacancy to that's a vacancy. >> The current one that says they don't plan to >> um
run for re for to re to refile. >> So, it makes sense that it is that one isn't contingent on two. >> Exactly. Can I speak? Um, in my opinion, you need to consider what you're
proposing is to change the way county government is being run. Right now, this elected position is voted on by the same people, only Becker County residents, of course, >> but that's my
the the point I want to make is you're changing the form of government. Mhm. >> And I think and I think what we're saying is no one here is saying that this is what we're going to do. >> We want to set the public hearing to hear from >> to get the public opinion on it and then
we'll make the decision. >> That's what the Y >> Yeah. And and madam to to to your point, you know, truly you are reporting to the public >> and if this were modified and changed to an appointed, that individual, whomever
that person would be, would be reporting to the board. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Great. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Oppose. >> Motion carries.
>> Thank you. >> Thanks, Mary. >> Thanks, Mary. Um, thank you, Madam Chair. That's all I have. >> Okay, Dave might need a break. >> Perfect, perfect, perfect. >> Do we need a break? >> Um, >> I got to be out in the cities at 5, so
>> I mean, we don't handle one cuz I drank this whole thing. >> It might be a good time. >> Okay, we'll take a break. Five minutes. Sorry, we're ready. >> Good morning. So, I have in front of you
a memo from DDA. Uh, at the last board meeting, I was instructed to work with Tessa to come up with an idea of some some form of leadership pay. Um, so that is what I'm bringing back to the board is the idea of leadership pay. It lays
out who would be included in that and what that would look like. Um, any questions on this? >> I'm sorry. The email you sent us is this exactly the same as this? >> There's just on the bottom of the email there's more information.
>> Okay. >> So, what this is proposing is they would go they would maintain their current step. So they they change from one classification to the other. Instead of going down steps, they just maintain
>> the current step that they were on in the previous grade. Yes. >> Madam chair, the question I had was kind of I would have liked to seen if there was any other options like I mean how many I mean if it's someone transfers and it's three steps I think would there be a step would there be a you only go
down maximum one step for leadership? I mean, so if you go up a band and if you I get the terms mixed up, but if you go up to the next level and you're at a seven, um, the lowest you could go is a six and instead of going at a three or or a four, you know, I'm just wondering
if that because I haven't seen the I haven't seen where these fall into. I I think in that one in the original we had that I could go back and look you had the steps where they would how many steps were in between but is there more than one step
in any of these? >> The only position is the highest paid position in the county which is the county administrator position. That is that is the only position that would have lost more than one step. And that's really the only
time that that is an ability with the current grid that we have. So, we did we did have a conversation about that about a potential of of leaving it kind of open-ended, but then you're you're just creating more of an issue that we're going to have to come back and fix again
in the future when it becomes an issue again. Well, my my thought was that you go into I mean for leadership you'd go into that, you know, you take your years of service and you'd go see where you are and you add one if you're not equal to.
So, so it's just like you'd go in like everyone else, but you'd get plus for leadership. You go plus one lane >> step, >> one extra step, >> step, whatever it is, one more year of service. But the steps really aren't tied to We have longevity that ties to the years of
service. >> How do you what do you you you accelerate through the steps by years of service >> on your anniversary date? Yes. But your >> We don't have longity for four years of service for employees hired after 2018.
>> We do. They have to hit quite a bit higher threshold for years of service. Yes. Yep. I'm just said whatever whatever we call it when you're in in what is it? Lanes and steps on this one. >> Grades and steps. >> Grades and steps. >> So if you go up a grade if if you're you
would trans transfer just like every other every other with leadership you could go you would get plus one if not more than what you currently were in your step. >> That would be then they would be maintaining their current step. plus one. You maintain you m you don't you
maintain you transfer over into your you but you'd max plus one. You transfer over just like you would in the everyone does transfer it over. So you'd go probably down a step or two. >> So they'd get they'd get the closest step to four and a half% let's say that
like right now all employees are at 1 and a.5% if we're going to say each step is right around 3%. So what you're proposing is they would instead of going in at 1 and a.5% they would go in at 4 and a.5%. >> You'd get one extra step. So that would be three if that's 3% that would be
>> that's where I would like to see that. I was thinking that would be the option. So you're not if we have a six I mean I don't know if there's a big jump. I don't think there would be that big a jump but if there would be that's where I was thinking we would we could look at that compromise. I my
opinion I think I think we should have it the same across the board. I think we should um we've we've been um this has been a issue ever since we we implemented the
um the new pay scale and I think we would be doing a huge disservice to all of our employees if we say now leadership you're going to get what all the other employees have wanted this whole time. you're going to get a additional pay and um I just think we
need to do the same one and a half% to determine their step. >> I agree. I think we need to be consistent with everybody and it's a lot simpler and just leave it. And this is going to upset people again if if it
changes for leadership. They're all employees. There's there's nothing been fair about this whole thing. If you're going to make everything fair, boy, you better I don't know how you could do it. So, the fairest thing that for me would be to leave it just the way it is and
just stay the way it is. But if I may, so one example that I had seen, I was not here when this change happened, but there was previously a difference in vacation acral for leadership versus
normal employees that was done away with. And in my opinion, it was probably done away with because we wanted equality across all positions. >> It wasn't leadership. It was exempt versus non-exempt is what the difference the difference in vacation was. >> Got it. Okay.
>> Which I mean I I agree we probably should look at that because there is a difference between exempt and non-exempt. But but that that would be one way to >> Madam Chair, Tira, how many people does this affect >> currently for for last year's review
phase, it would be five positions that were outlined that were being affected. But in total, honestly, I didn't count >> five positions. That would be $26,000 more. >> Yeah, >> there are 12 positions total throughout the county that are being identified as leadership positions. The information we
got last board meeting there was what? 12. >> There was 11 total from last year. Yep. >> That's a total list. >> Yeah. This is all the department has. >> Yeah. There's 12 listed here.
>> Yeah. when the information we got for the all the employees that were employee all the positions that were going up a grade that got reevalued there was 11 of those from the last board. >> Oh Yep. Yep. Sorry. >> Yeah.
>> So we already approved the overall pay scale. So really what we need to decide is do we want to add an additional leadership >> policy policy for leadership >> is there something else we can do for leadership >> well I think
>> that isn't involved the pay scale >> I think tier oh that doesn't involve the the pay scale I mean that's where tier was thinking the vacation >> vacation >> well that was a conversation that we had had with Tessa she she did bring up potentially like lumpsum payments if
that's something that we wanted to consider There are other options. Really, what we were honing in on is what conversation we had at the last board meeting, which was we wanted something potentially to get leadership more in line with where
they were in their previous grade going into their new grades. >> I mean, I'm not opposed to looking for other to other things that, you know, we could potentially do for for leadership. I always like think that then you know be prepared to deal
with that at union negotiation time. But >> so if if I may I mean >> I'm in a leadership position. I've I've been in other leadership positions. Yes, it comes with additional responsibility, but it also comes with more money right off the bat.
>> I don't in this is my opinion and take it or leave it. In my opinion, you should be following the same general guidelines as everyone else. >> Saying that leadership is I mean quite honestly, it's kind of saying they're more important, which yes, they have
increased responsibilities, but they're not any more important than anyone else. >> Mhm. >> So, with that being said, does anybody feel we need to make any changes to our policy? Well, I would like I mean >> or additional direction from
>> I would I would have I mean I think I think I've heard quite clearly two commissioners. I would think I I mean I I would like to see a little bit different. I mean I don't know if this one is exactly where I'm at. Um
>> I was going to say you did talk to Tessa about other options. >> Correct. Correct. We we talked about potentially like lump sum type of things. But did you did you talk about other options on the scale? >> Really what what Commissioner Nelson is leaning towards, they would end up at
the same places if they just maintain their current step. The only position in the county that would really be affected by only getting one increased step would be the county administrator. That's the only position that lost more than one step. I'm sorry.
And that's um that's currently I mean I who knows what in five years could I mean >> y >> it it we're talking currently >> I mean and >> I mean I think our hope is is the longer that we work to maintain our pay scale which is what we this board at least has
committed to doing maybe not Phil just because Phil wasn't here not saying you're not committed but you you weren't here when we when we started working with DDA is the hope is as years So we won't have this issue. We won't have a
large discrepancy in pay that we have to address this again moving forward. >> I think I think our job is always going to have >> issues with I mean you're there's always going to things that come up to us in
this. I I would >> I would suggest maybe we review this in courthouse again or just see if there's other options that might be more palatable. I don't know, maybe Phil or um Dave have >> opinions that on it that would direct us where we should come back if if
anything. >> I mean, I think I've heard Richard and Erica um what their thoughts are. If you have an opinion, we can either um not bring anything back or if you want us to look at something else. >> I I would like it to go to courthouse. Um I So, I just want to explain a little
bit. So, I understand what our scale is. is we we've when we moved people into our new scale uh new we moved them in you know lateral and then they couldn't go down they went to that step and then we added that one and a half% for >> minimum
>> but we yeah we did that for uh career ladder and now we're going so I understand what the employees are coming from because the steps are based on years of service on their anniversary date so I get why I get I understand why
do I get a new grade, but I lose a year of experience. So, I get what they're saying. But, so to me, that is different than when they originally went in the scale. That's the way I look at it. I don't know if this is the right answer. So, I would like it to go back to
courthouse to see if we can come up with something that might be the right answer because I understand what both you guys are saying. It makes sense to me. >> But what we're proposing is not just not all employees, only leadership. Yes, that's right. >> So, what you're your concern is based on
all employees. >> Yes. >> But we're >> but we're only going to address leadership. the the scenario that I look at and I've seen it happen at >> I've seen it before >> where you have a >> employee in leadership that has been
here for 30 years and they retire >> and you hire back at a higher rate for a new employee that's had no experience you have and to to gain that now and and I think we're getting ahead of that now but you're hiring back someone at a
higher price than you lost that 30-year experience leadership. It's like >> that that to me is it's just that's just tough to swallow. >> So, I don't know how to do that and how to and maybe and a mark maybe a specific market study for each position. I mean,
that is what we're doing. But, um I don't know. I mean, I feel like you see that no matter where, government, non-government, you're you're going to pay more now because there's been a drastic change in wages across the board
everywhere the last six years. So, when you have that 30 years of experience and then you lose it, you're you're not going to pay what that person made 30 years ago starting. like there there's been such a huge increase in wages in
the last since co that th this is going to be >> I think >> we're always going to >> I think I think what he what he's saying is someone someone moves get moves you know they're in a grade that because we moved in the scale instead of them being at step 10 they're at step six.
>> Mhm. >> Okay. Now they retire at step when they're at step eight we hire a new person to replace them. We got to put them at step 9 or 10 because otherwise we weren't going to get them. That's what you're saying, right? >> Yeah, sort of. >> That's part Yes. But I I'm referencing a specific one where I mean, in my mind,
I'm thinking of a specific case where they retired, been there for their whole career, >> and you have to hire. Now, when again, we're getting ahead of that by doing these studies. I mean, I think the studies got us ahead of that, but it's like, oh, I just don't want to fall into that. I mean, I look at a department at
here now and to get that to get that are we going to have to put them in at a I mean, now we're negotiating where they're going to come in at that scale. So, we have someone here and we drop them down because we changed it. So, and if they say, I want to quit and I want to reapply for this
position, we would probably have to put them at a grade five or six to get, you know, we'd have to hire them back at a higher grade at a higher level. Now, you don't do that with with your, you know, masses. I mean your other employees, but that you you negotiate those top positions.
>> Th those >> if we we want to talk about those positions that have been here for 20, 30 years and they quit and apply back, they lose their longevity. >> Well, I'm talking a seven-year employee that gets down to now you're putting them down. You're you put them back in
and now you well, we're going to drop you >> a grade. It's like, well, or a step, raise your grade, drop you a step. Well, I know I'm going to if I reapplied for this, where would I come in at? Where would you where would you hire the
a new person to fill this position at? I think that's the question I have and and we throw Carrie under the bus all the time. Where would where could we hire a qualified person to to do this job? Would we would we start them? Would we negotiate? Now, that's step Well, we'll
give you step one. >> That that's and I don't it's not a good answer. There's no good solution. I mean, but man, if if if we had a resignation and we hired someone that we had had good experience, good. It's like where would you if you thought you had
the right person for if someone >> resigned for some reason? Where would you where would you put them? You say, "Well, we'll put you at step eight. We got to get you." Yeah. >> And the person who just left who was doing a better job that we we know did a better job was at step two. I >> mean, I think you could you could make
that argument with any employee. Well, most employees don't get the opportunity to to negotiate their steps. >> Yeah. >> When they start, you mean? >> Yeah. >> Quite honestly, everyone has the opportunity. They just may or may not
get the job. We have a level in mind, a step in >> applicants for a job that are all qualif I mean anyway. >> Yeah. >> I haven't heard anything from filbert. So I think uh I without the support of the board I think we bring it back to
committee and review and and come with some >> Is there any sort of guidance that I can get to bring back to Tessa of what we're actually wanting to do. >> I think if she could provide us with any information if there's any other counties looking at something like this
to give us some more knowledge on it. I don't or if you can I >> I don't necessarily I mean I don't disagree with the leadership plan part. I like that but I also would like her to look at all employees like what are counties doing for all employees that are moving up to grade.
>> So she she did answer that question during the last board meeting and there's one there's one county out of I believe 60ome 60ome >> I think if we wanted to do that I think the initial cost was 1 and a half 1.6 6 million >> it was. >> So I mean it it's just
>> Yeah. No, I'm not talking about every employee going into the scale. Just every job that is being reviewed that goes up a grade. >> I don't know how you'd madam chair I I don't know how you'd re I don't know how you'd predict that just because you don't know what the market's going to
drive. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> So um >> I guess that would be un the uncertainty of this. >> Madam chair ti finish that thought. 60 counties were what? >> Tessa, the last board meeting that she did attend in in reference to this
policy, she did say that they have approximately it was over 60 counties that they service for their comp plans. And there's only one other county that they service that are actually moving when they move people a grade, they move them to the current step that they were
on at the previous grade. >> The other 60some do this way one and a half. Well, then well no happen. >> There's many of them that don't do anything. It's next closest step without any sort of minimum. It's just next closest step like we did when we came
into the new scale. Madam Chair, I think um I think the overall feel of the board is to bring it to send it to committee and re review it and if um if committee sees a opportunity to that might be favorable to the board, we bring it forward. If
not, it would probably die if we don't find anything that's >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Nelson, isn't that we just we just told Tiara at the last meeting to go back and look at this a little closer? I mean, now we're asking her to do I mean, when she calls Tessa, she's going to Well,
what's she going to say? I mean, what >> is he? >> I've heard from two commissioners that are not in favor of this. And I now I don't know what you're saying or what you're asking. So, I don't know where you're if you have a if you're for it or against it. I don't know. Dave and I just said we would like to bring it back
to committee and review it and and if it doesn't have any information pertinent to it, it'll die there. So I if you have an opinion if you want to move forward with it as is or not then I I would like to hear that. >> Um
I am way behind in all this. This is not >> I'm listening mostly. But when you say tiar go back we did that at the last meeting. What is she going to go back? >> She just asked me and I asked her if if she has any input or or Tessa has any other knowledge that we could glean from
this. If not, we will just say, well, maybe we're just dead in the water here. >> Madame Chair, I I did sit in on um the call with Tessa and there were different potential options that she did throw up. Of course, everything's very costly um
very it becomes quite complicated. Um and quite honestly, she really didn't have good suggestions about how to go about this. So the focus really was on maintaining steps for leadership specifically
that is and I she would if she were here I believe she would say if if you're truly looking at doing something different for leadership that that's probably your best option. So I don't know going back to her if we're going to glean any additional information.
>> Yeah. If it goes to committee, you just we just have a discussion, a dialogue and you could certainly do that discussion and I don't know if there's any new information or but maybe you know if you sit around a table and discuss something sometimes you come up with an option that looks >> you could certainly do that. I just don't know that she is
>> I just don't feel there's support right today to move forward. So >> right >> but I mean it there's information that I would have liked to dissect you know how many I'd like to seen the specific positions and where they're where
they're moving for. I saw the total dollar amount, you know. Um, but I, you know, that's that's just dialogue, just discussion. So, sometimes it takes a while to wrap your head around the costs and what the implications are and how this affects
everyone. So, if if you don't want it to go to committee, then it's just dead today. I mean that's that's we have >> I mean I'm I I'm pretty strong in that I don't think we should have when it comes to pay we should have different scale if we want to talk about vacation for
similar like what we did before exempt and non-exempt I'm open to that discussion but um madam chair >> or if we want to do leadership non- leadership >> could I just make a motion to to bring this back to committee for discussion and possibly bring back to board if if
the committee seemed deems necessary or deems appropriate. I'll make that motion. >> Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> And >> Madam Chair, may I may I ask what is the information that you would like to see at the committee level like like you
said, you want to see where positions were going to go. I need a little bit more direction. So, I'm prepared for >> Madam Chair, I have a motion on the table and >> we can discuss this afterwards. >> Motion and second. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I
>> I opposed. >> Motion carries. M >> Madame Chair, if I may suggest perhaps it may be helpful at the committee level if that's the direction that this is going. Perhaps we could schedule it when Tessa could be present and then you could have your direct conversations with her.
>> I think we could talk about all the things you just said about >> vacation occur scale and anything all those things. Those are those some of those things we should we can see what are what are other counties doing on that. That's one thing.
>> Okay, moving on. Thank you, Tiara. >> Thanks. Well, you have some more. >> Nope, Tiara doesn't. Steve, >> morning. >> Good morning. Almost afternoon.
>> I have a couple items um for us today. First one is uh we're working with a company to do gypsum recycling of our uh sheetrock that we collect. And what I really would like to see, this is a
pilot project. It's the first time in the state that I'm aware of where a company's willing to come in to try to grind chips or sheetrock. And uh we've talked talked about trying to find different ways to find
beneficial products or recycle demolition products in the past and we've ground wood. We've did different things. We've tried grinding sheetrock using a different type of grinder. Didn't work. This firm actually does this down near the Twin Cities. They ship that sheetrock up into this area
and they sell it to farmers and instead of us hauling sheetrock down there, them grinding it, shipping it back up to this area. The whole idea is that we could just do it locally. What they they got a some help I think from the NPCA to buy this grinder. And uh what they would like to do is
come on site and grind it. And my hope is that they can do the marketing. We talked about this in committee. Their budget to come up here to to mobilize, get up here and do the grinding. They need about $10,000 upfront or that's what their cost is
going to be. And then after that, they're going to market it and sell it. and then their goal is to make the county whole and reimburse us for those costs. Um, that's where we're at right now. So, we had a draft proposal in the board packet already. Some of that's changed
because last week we had our environmental services committee and some of the things that were brought up were uh the committee members felt that we we would like a percentage of sales for the total amount that they grind. So, if we have 500 tons and it takes
them a whole week to do this or two weeks or whatever it is, when we market that and let's say they get $50 a ton or whatever it is, when they market it, the county would like some reimbursement on that for the total amount that we're marketing. So, it'll be our staff that's
going to be uh helping to move some of these products once they get done because they're going to leave and then it's going to be up to us to load trucks as this moves out. The other thing is that we wanted to put some criteria in there that we want this stuff moved out fairly quick and hope the hope is that
they grind this in the spring and the fall when farmers are going to be applying this to fields or whoever buys this and uh we can just move it out quicker. So, what I'd like to do if if if I could get a board motion just
allowing us to uh spend up to $10,000 to mobilize them and get them up here. In meantime, we'll go through and rewrite this proposal or contract with them and maybe bring it back to the next board meeting with with an updated version of this for consideration because this is
I'm hoping that this becomes a template that we can use going into the future as well. >> I I had one question. So it just probably doesn't question doesn't really matter but so the the it's going to sheetrock's going to sit outside right >> it is right now correct
>> so there was one part in there where the m they couldn't have moldy sheetrock dam you know that's all new sheetrock well if that sheetrock gets wet and sits there and is that going to not is some of that going to not be able to be used then >> sure that's a good question so we've
been storing this since last spring and they've they've they've did the same thing where they're at to a certain degree ree um because they just ran out of room at their facility and they've built a new facility. So, they're going to come up here and take a look at the sheetrock before they grind before they
mobilize. They're going to be coming up here to >> look at it and we'll >> stir it around to see if it meets what their requirements are. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I saw that in the contract they would sure >> inspect it first. >> Madam Chair, I will move to move forward
with the Sheetrock Recycle uh pilot project. All right, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> All right, we have a motion, a second. Any further discussion? >> Well, Madam Chair, I think the motion is a little little vague for me to to
support at this time. Um, I would like I mean, reading through this, there are some concerns I had in the costs. I mean, some of their costs were included in there and left vague. I just would like to see the contract how written and
signed by administration to be to be us at a cost neutral. I mean, so if we're not expending I mean at the end of the day if we're not so that's where I'm at. So if if we can word the language say and I don't you know you said that the new contract should come back to us. If
it's costneutral it's not going to cost us money and we can see that in the projected sales and I'm I'm okay with moving forward. I would like that to be how it's read though and then give administration the right to move forward with that. >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Nelson, we did
discuss this uh these things and and unfortunately it's a pilot project. There's a lot we don't know, but the the $10,000 mobilization cost. We did want to recoup that. We said that, you know, how it sold, when it sold, we put tried to put time frames on it so that we
would be made whole. Um I see a couple things in here, too, that I'm not, you know, those gypsum socks. I didn't think we were responsible for those and here it says we are. So there are some things. >> So I would if if I may ask the motion maker in a second just to include that um and I'm all right then with not
coming back and give authorization through the committee and and our administrator to move forward with this if Becker County um feels that you know respectfully or almost certainly can be cash neutral in
the in the final outcome. you know, it should be we've already got tipping fees for the truck. >> I just would like that included in the motion. So, we give authority to you and and to to move forward with it then. >> And we have all the bags. They're just laying out there. And this is going to
be put in bags. We if if they >> if they can't sell it, which they have been selling it, we could sell it. So, it's going to be all bagged up. And so yeah, there's no guarantee on nothing, but that's our goal is to >> the projection the projection is that we
would be >> to make a buck on it. Not much, but make something and it doesn't. >> But if you I mean I think in the motion if that was included then >> I would change I would change that. >> Yeah, I would too I would go whatever whatever he said >> just just make give authorization to administration and the committee to move forward with this with this being a
projected cash neutral >> and and let's put a time frame on it too. Let's let's put by the end of the year so that we can reassess because that second contract's going to look a lot different than this one. >> Good point. >> Depending on what happens. So, does that give you directions, Steve? Does that help? >> I understand what you're trying to do.
>> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I >> opposed. Motion carried. >> The second item was a request to enter into a contract to develop a solid waste management plan for 2027 through 2037.
The county is obligated to have a solid waste management plan by statute. Uh we did it in the past. >> Committee recommend the cheaper one. >> Well, yeah. Makes approved. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's all I want to know cuz there's two of them on there and I didn't know. >> And you've worked with them before.
>> Well, would Seth Steve did the last one by himself. It's a lot of work. Um he's going to have to be involved completely with it anyway, but they're going to do the lion majority of the work. He's going to provide the information. That's at Woods was so much cheaper. Yeah.
>> Did you Did you make >> a motion? I'll second. >> And a second. All right. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor signify by saying I >> oppose. >> And just just understand, too, that that that that permit is going to be coming. We we'll need to approve a permit down the road here, too. So, that isn't the
same as this. This is a plan. So, >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Nope. >> Thank you. Hello, Sheriff. >> Good morning. >> I have one item today. Madam Chair, members,
>> there's a meeting at 5. >> So, you know, Mr. >> I'll make it as quick as I say has a has a question about boat and water. >> We're beyond that. >> We're not beyond it. We can move we can move on.
Um I have one item and uh it is a request for increasing jail nursing coverage obviously our jail and the reason this request is coming forward today is because of a mandate that was
put into effect by the legislature last July July of 25 which is under Minnesota statute 241.021 021 subdivision 4F uh >> also known as the Larry >> Larry Hill Act. Correct. And I I I asked
Paula to be here today because she works uh closely with our nursing staff and sees what is coming into our jails. Uh just a little history, the effect of July 1st, 2025 per that statute, it requires correctional facilities to
continue administering medications exactly as prescribed before a person's incarceration unless the jail provider can reach the original prescriber and both parties agree to a change. Used to be what was medically necessary to be in our jail.
Now it's whatever they were using prior to coming in. And to point out, >> not necessarily using, but prescribed >> prescribed. >> So they could have been off this medication that's prescribed for months and months at a time, >> but now
>> we have to follow what they were. So >> yes, >> it's they weren't might not necessarily even be using it anymore. So >> it it restricts medical decisionm and could lead to adverse effects obviously on inmates health may not be appropriate for their current condition. This
mandate has put a strain on our current nursing staff and jail staff due to the large amounts of medications inmates are on prior to the incarceration. Uh right now we believe there's at least 70% of all inmates are coming in with medications and most of them have
multiple different medications. So you can imagine >> and multiple doctors possibly. >> Correct. >> So those medications could be from numerous physicians that don't know each other. >> Sometimes they can't find the doctor. to uh to add. We would like to add 24
hours to our nursing staff. Currently, we are at 56 hours. We have one full-time and then one part-time that's at 16. We would like to add uh an additional 24 hours. So, it' be 80 hours total,
which does increase our uh contract by um I think I have it in the resolution 95,472. >> Yep. And and then we also I interrupt. Sorry. We also talked to the committee that with the housing of Hover County
prisoners right now because they're remoding their jail, we're having more income. And then with the addition of this nurse, we also might, you can correct me if I'm wrong, Paula. We we should be able to probably take more prisoners.
Um so we'd have more funds generated. We we looked at it. We believe that that our housing of prisoners, federal prisoners, state prisoners, and our Hubard County prisoners would offset the cost of >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Meyer. I mean,
that's short term. This needs to be repealed. I know you're part of all of that. I mean, we're going to talk about it at legislative down there on Wednesday. I mean, >> this is >> that's the bigger picture. >> Madam Chair, I do think this is a perfect perfect spot for using the opioid settlement money.
>> That was my next thing. Yeah. um this is all about drugs. This is all about abuse of drugs. And that that is exactly what this opioid settlement money is trying to do is help >> and this is helping them get on medication. It will coordinate with all
actually it coordinates all their doctors. There was a case in Becker County. I think Paula said we had to contact four different doctors and these could be emergency room doctors. These could be their general physicians. So I mean >> traveling >> it's it's not a it's not an easy process but it so the the opioid money was meant
to offset some of the negativities of illegal and legal drugs. Yep. So, >> and I think this would be >> so when I have brought that up before at I think I brought it up at human services because everybody there is on the opioid or not everybody everybody that is on the opioid advis advisory
council is or most of the the leadership is on the human services committee and their response was if there is an area in the county that wants to utilize those they need to apply for it. Well, Madam Chair, I think >> and if that and if we want to change
that, then we should probably change the >> process. >> Well, then we can do either, but I think this money should be spent on where on these >> this and Madam Chair, I believe Todd's going to say that we did apply for it last year. Correct, >> Paul? Y >> um and if we can't do it from our own,
>> Madam Chair, I I'm going to digress here a little bit. Uh I I I'm not sure I feel that way. I mean, I would like this opioid settlement to go to youth and and I mean to the jail already. I mean, this is just covering a budget problem for
us. We're I mean I we can have that debate later, but I'm not sure I'm completely in agreement with that. From a budgetary standpoint, absolutely. But for doing what the opioid settlement is meant to do, I mean, isn't that prevention? And I mean, you're taking
away from what could be used at Cornerstone at different areas um to give to the jail. Uh >> you're you're going down a road where you want to debate what the effectiveness of that those dollars spent also. >> Well, and we're we're going down a board
where we're a road where we're trying to figure out >> where this is coming. And really, we just need to approve it or not approve it. I mean, I think I think that's the opioid money is for a different day is what I'm trying to say. >> I don't think it is for a different day.
I think we I think we say that we move forward with the additional nursing and and pay out of opioid. I don't think we need the recommendation committee's approval to spend the money. >> Mr. Chair, Commissioner Nelson, we have people apply for that grant that are looking forward to seeing if they get
that grant to divert dollars right now midstream and say, "Oh, you don't get anything too bad. We're But I do is that what you're saying? >> I do think a plan has to be submitted and I could be very wrong, >> but I believe a plan of how you're going to disperse that money has to be
submitted and that how what we're currently doing is the plan that has been submitted. So I think if we're going to divert from that plan, we need to have further discussion and change that plan. I believe that plan was submitted.
Are we talking about the jail specifically? Is that opioid? >> The the the committee was formed and has numerous members there. It is open currently for uh requests for proposals. I just had a request from a community
member asking questions. >> But but how that money is dispersed, did that have to be >> There has to be reporting. Is that what you're asking? There has to be reporting, but does there have to be um do we have to follow the procedure that we have? Did we did we report the
procedure that we have to the state in order to get that funding? >> There was a requirement to have a committee put together as far as whether or not you would want to deviate from that midstream. I that would be questionable. >> We So, I'm not saying we can't. I'm just saying I don't know that we can.
>> Paul's got a Paula's got an application already made up because she was denied before. >> Yep. Mhm. So she's just just changed that up. >> Focused on medication assisted treatment, which is another aspect of everyone coming into jail wants a
replacement for that heroin that they were on. So we do prescribe Suboxone and some of them are on it the entire entirety of their incarceration. >> Another thing is when someone comes in and and has prescribed medication and now they're not on it for months at a
time. Um, and you have to contact other doctors. You have they have to modify that rate, too. I mean, you can't just I mean, I'm not familiar with all medications, but you can't just go back on that same rate that you that was prescribed. I mean, it there's it's very complicated and I feel the opioid money
I feel some of the opioid requests are, >> in my opinion, not the best use of money. >> So, Madam Chair, uh, we're talking about opioid settlement. We've got that for the next 15 20 years. It's 300 $300,000
a year. Is that correct? >> It could be even more than that. >> It's higher than that. >> It's more than that. >> We have 550 in the budget in in reserves or in sitting there right now. >> Yep. Once >> and that's 18 to 20 years or something. >> 20 years and there's another one. >> There's more than one. Yeah, there's
more than one settlement. Yeah. >> I mean, >> I'm not opposed to I'm not opposed to what you guys are doing. I just this is the first I've been made aware of it and I that's a bigger conversation >> some of these I mean I don't like having >> I have concerns about different groups
coming in with proposals and then we give them piles of money and they go out and and it's it's all feelgood but I don't know if there's any results to come of it and I think we have one um that's made the news recently that I'm not sure if we're I mean we'll look at the what happens but are we getting the results that we're paying for a lot of
money and that could be used to offset and reduce our general fund levy. >> It's fair. >> Mhm. >> But I today I think the offset of revenue could help pay for this. I don't think we have a choice. >> I don't think we have a choice on moving
forward with this. How we fund it. I think we we will have some discussions and hopefully and if we can reduce the and get the Larry Hill Act at least amend it a little bit so we don't stress out the nursing staff at the hospital so much and the jail staff to to try to
find and track all these people. It's um then we could have some red reduction hours but it's only getting it's only getting more difficult and I think I think it's necessary and I would I think there's I don't know do you have the option in your packet here >> but
The amount >> did you have that? >> No, I have it here though. >> Oh, >> you want the option number one? >> Option one. Yeah. >> Yeah, it's >> I think Brad said >> option one is the 541 >> total of 541 950 >> that's with the increase
>> increase of 95,000 some dollars 95 something. >> Is it 95? >> The difference is 95,000 >> 95464 472 >> actually I think I put it in the legislative. So I'll make a motion to approve 1D with
selecting option one >> from the >> All right. I have a >> correctional contract. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> All those or any further discussion? >> There was some money left in the budget for that. So it's not that's not all. I mean there was some extra money in that line item that wasn't in cure and that
was it wasn't much, but there was a I think 70,000. I figured in my estimation there was a it was going to we were going to have to come up with another 64 to $70,000. >> Yeah. 64 to 70. Yeah. >> Um we were already projected over um running strong in the prisoner
>> um reimbursement. >> So hopefully we're over budget there but um granted but we might we have to keep an eye on this making sure that um just come to realization this may be not in our budget at the end of the year. >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Nelson. So what you just described was fitting into
the budget with Hubard County inmates and stuff. However, going forward the opioid that conversation still needs to happen, >> right? >> Yeah. >> It's not coming out of opioid. It's coming out of within their budget hopefully, but there might be a shortfall by then. >> There might be a little bit.
>> All right. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor signify by saying I >> oppose. Motion carries. Um, just a note, the opioid advisory council meets next week. If I will be more than happy to bring these concerns to them of what the
potential changes are and ask the question of what if there's a change in how the board wants to proceed with the funding? What what do we have to do? >> You know, and I referenced and I don't think it's a secret. F5 has been in the
news in in the Fargo forum numerous times and and we currently contract with them >> and and F5 is coming to the >> board or to the advisory council on I think is it the 10th >> and they gave a nice presentation but there are some there are concerns as
we've read I mean not just from what I've read there are concerns there that I'm want to make sure that they're >> doing good business >> and you're not the only one that has brought those concerns to >> yeah I I don't have it it's either the 10th or the 11. >> Denise told me to. >> Yeah. >> Is that is that can we all or who who do
you sit on that? >> I I sit on that. Yep. >> Is there other commissioners that sit on that? >> No. >> Would you let me know? I >> This is a recommendation board that we have the final decision on it. Yes. I would like to see >> when you include the in the packet, I would like to see all applicants. I mean
when and it doesn't have to be in our packet, but just forward us all the applicants because I would like to see >> Yep. what we are approving and what we are not approving or what what >> who got denied >> who got >> by the committee. >> This is a this is a lot of money
>> and I I don't >> it is the 10th at 1 p.m. >> I don't want us to throw feelood money at something that's not going to produce anything for us >> over at the Detroit Lakes Police Department. >> Madam Chair, if I if I may madam chair and commissioners, I just want to give a
shout out to our our jail staff. Um they brought in over a half million dollars last year in revenue for boarding and a lot of that was done being short staffed and and again with that act that took place last July it is very difficult for
everyone out there and uh so I just want to give a a kudos to >> this should alleviate some of that stress. I mean you should be able to spread out right? >> Well there's more requirements so there's more work. So >> yeah. >> Um and I and I again I just said this I can't remember who I was talking to
yesterday about the job that our jail staff does. How how and how thankful I am that you guys are out there and doing it because it's I mean there are times and I remember a situation of was it a year ago that we had an inmate out there just terrible just terrible. There are some people that are just
>> not decent people and doing things just to make it hateful for everyone else. Um, thank you for and thank everyone out there because it's it's >> Madam Chair, before the sheriff is excused, um, you did send me some additional legislative information. I'm just
wondering if you just want to give a very quick synopsis to the board if that's okay. And I'm going to include that in our >> talking the house file. >> Correct. >> I just don't remember the number 296. I don't I don't either. >> I believe it's 2966 if my memory is
accurate. uh which is uh uh it's a a bill that's uh going to be uh uh presented at this legislative session regarding uh the uh tribe getting their Am I on the right track
here? Okay, you are. Okay, >> you are. >> The tribe getting their own PAP. Um right, we currently obviously the tribe is within Manolomman, Clearwater, and Becker counties. All three of us, you know, each county has a PAP, a public
safety answering point, 911 center, and the tribe is uh trying to get their own. Um, unfortunately, they have not reached out to the sheriff's or administration regarding this. Um, it was brought to our attention through the emergency
communications network through uh the state and I see some very difficult situations if that would happen. So >> for Becker County or for them
>> for the three counties right now that currently have PAPs, we have right now we have we we all share including the tribe we share a records management system and our our response um emergency
response is plugged into that system right now. It's currently plugged in. It's taken a long time for us to get that to where it's working well. Obviously, there's situations that come up where things don't work as well, but adding this PAP um because it is it is
not a a closed reservation, you know, like Red Lake for example, I understand the Red Lake reservation having their own PAP with White Earth having being an open reservation. We have uh non-tribal
citizens. Um I can foresee chaos coming into that if that would happen. I shouldn't say chaos but concerns. >> So what one if I if I am a non White Earth member and but I live on the
reservation and I call 911 >> is that what you're thinking like would my 911 call go to White Earth or would it go to Becker? So it's it's how did how does that get figured out? >> Yes. >> Gotcha. Manomomen county they're completely. So, how does the phone call
know which which way to go >> exactly? Yeah. Again, it's already established. >> Well, we're going to forward you to another number here. >> I mean, hold on for your emergency. >> You don't want to you don't want to do that. >> Okay. >> You know, again, >> um >> if there's a major incident, one call,
you know, several people could be calling in. >> One's going to go to to White Earth, one could go to Becker, you know, or >> State Patrol. What do state do they get 911 calls? >> No, it's dispatched through the
counties. >> So the state patrol doesn't have their own 911, but >> correct. >> We are the 911 answering center. >> Wait, so you I mean you could not have one within your boundaries have another 9 I mean I don't know how you possibly >> I mean unless we really really improve
our >> there's no way >> 911 technology. There's no way for a phone to know which which one to go. Manomomen County or or tribal >> manomomen's got a huge issue because they're entirely in the reservation. >> Yes. And and I just want to say White
Earth has a dispatch center, although it's not a 911 answering point. >> Um and they have very very good people working there, you know, and and I want to say we we work well with them, >> you know. It's uh but I I foresee this
bill that's being presented 911 issue the the largest concern concern because that >> yes >> how do you >> how do you know >> I mean who whoever answers that call has to be the lead on it >> has to be the lead can't transfer a 911
call >> there are >> and and if it happens in Becker County on the reservation they probably won't even call Becker County >> again these are concern >> they wouldn't have yeah they wouldn't have to yeah probably >> okay >> you would have no idea >> so we talked to our state
representatives about this is where we what we >> I was going to add it to our list of what we're taking with us. >> Yep. So, I just wanted him to mention it. >> Yep. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Helpful. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thanks, Todd. >> All right, Kyle.
>> We're only an hour and eight minutes late. >> Thanks, Perry. >> I think it started with someone stretching their reports. I'm sorry about that.
>> Not even a longwinded day. >> Okay. Planning Commission recommendations. >> Planning Commission recommendations from February 25th. Um the first being a cell tower. It's an amendment to an existing document um from 1994
with an increase of 40 ft uh to the tower itself and then a 12T lightning rod. Um since that tower was um constructed, the property surrounding it was zoned residential in about 2010 and platted into a common interest
community. So um this will need a variance as well for this increase in height. Um it does not meet some of the fall zones. >> That's my question. >> Um so that just needs to be um >> it it's being lit though, right?
Yeah, it'll have to follow all the >> I want to make sure it's it's got lights on it. So, >> you can condition I would just condition that. >> Condition it. It has um lighting at the top. >> Yes. >> Concur >> with lighting with lighting at the top.
Appropriate lighting at the top >> and that variance if you would >> and the varian. >> Yes, it this will require a variance. Say and the varian >> condition contingent on the approval of varian. >> Yes.
>> Second. >> All right. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. >> Um the second recommendation to approve was for a conditional use permit for cultivation and wholesale of cannabis.
It was clarified in the meeting that there'll be no manufacturing on site. Yeah. Any questions? Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion. >> They they covered it pretty good in their uh >> Mhm. >> It was
>> their application. >> No opposition to this one. >> I'll make a motion >> to concur. >> Yeah. >> All right. Do we have a second? I >> I will second. Any further discussion?
All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> I'm opposed. >> All right. Motion carries. >> Um the second item is a request for proposal for engineering services as we discussed um a little while ago on retaining walls. This is a little bit
broader. >> Madam Chair, Kyle, did the applicant New Life Farms, I noticed that wasn't on here. We talked about that in planning and zoning. Did they >> That will go to Burlington Township. Oh, that doesn't need to come here. Okay. >> Nope. They have that platting approval. So, >> Oh, okay. All right. Sorry.
>> Yep. >> Uh, no. The second item is as uh just a request for proposal for engineering services as we had discussed. Um, >> yeah. You know, majority of it is going to be that, but this is a little bit broader.
Um, in the case we have an EA or something like that, we could certainly uh use their services as well. Um on the last page there was just a couple inserts there. I was I would suggest that we put it out for two weeks um for
questioning and then extend it another two weeks beyond that for the actual submitt. So it'd be about a month before you see a proposal. >> Do we need action on that? >> We need action on that. >> Approve the RFP. >> I would I haven't seen it.
I sent it. >> He sent it in the email. >> Sent in an email. >> I have a copy of it if you'd like. >> So, it wasn't in the board packet. >> No, I think he sent a separate email Friday. >> Oh. Oh, okay. Yes, I did get that.
>> All right. Any questions or corrections on the RFP? Otherwise, I will take a motion to approve the RF RFP publication. I I will make that motion. >> All right. Do I have a second?
>> I'll second it. >> Any further discussion? >> All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Motion carries. Any other business? We are journ.
>> Sweet. Some of us got to be done by 3:30 instead of 5. What are you doing at 3:30? I'm out some