back to host today. Um we'll start the meeting with pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. [Music] I I'd also like to take a moment of silence for the tragedies that happened in our uh in many in uh Brooklyn Park and and uh Champlain Park. So, if we
could take a moment for that, for the Hortman's and the Hoffman's All right. Thank you. I just want to say thanks. Thank you for that, Dave. It's been very heavy on my mind um since Saturday morning. And I think
it's just important to say that it shouldn't matter what level of government you're on from the township or um wershed. Yeah. School school board
federal county like you should never ever fear for your life. So I just want to condemn any violence and say we need to do better. So thank you. Yeah. All right. So let's move on to the agenda. Do we have any changes or
additions to the agenda? Thank you, Mr. Chair. There are a few uh changes. Um I would request that we remove the gravel pit conditional use permit that's on our agenda. Okay. As well as well as remove the airport resolution
for u funding request for taxi lane rehabilitation. So number four under your yes there'll be further discussion at airport committee um with regards to that request tomorrow and then adding an item um it probably should be added
under highway under so number five um actually since highway already has a spot on the agenda it might be number five under highway more yes more fitting under highway the item is a change order for the city of Lake Park construction
on on County Road seven. Yeah. I I don't know the count. Whatever goes through. Yeah. Yeah. Seven. Okay. And then I just um then also I just wanted to mention that the flowers on the on the table there in honor of the the fallen. Yeah.
Is there any other corrections or additions to the agenda? All right. I entertain a motion to approve the agenda. So moved. Motion by Erica. Do we have a second? Second by Barry. Any discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion carries. All
right. Minutes from June 3rd. Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes? I had just a couple on page three. There's a extra comma and services were spelled wrong. Do you realize, Peggy, that I did not notice
that? Didn't you? No, I didn't. Yeah. Um, page three, number four, services is spelled wrong. We're missing a C. I did notice that. And then there's an extra comma after um, auditor warrants and claims over 90 days. Um,
and then on number five under the sheriff, page five under the sheriff where we're talking about the regeneration of the following squad powers. I just wonder if we should go like say who the company is for the is that because it's not the regeneration
is not the company is it regen is the is the company is the company regen is the company isn't it but I think that's it's the company that we are getting our our squads squads fitted with or
equipped with they are purchasing they are they will either purchase the vehicle and or the equipment and then to resell it. So, we would be selling or trading in some of that stuff for that. Yep. So, I think we just need to because it just says motion and second to
approve the sale or regeneration of the following squad cars. So, I think if we could just say what does regeneration mean or like regeneration through regeneration regen or whatever it is? Second to approve the sale the sale of the car through public auction or
through regeneration. Yep. or through regen. Regen I think is their regen. Regen is the name. Regenerate. Regen is the name of their company. Y I had a couple peggies. Oh, I just had one more one more um more of a
clarification than a correction um because I noticed under the Pelican River wershed that it I was not identified as as being um voting against it. And so I don't know if that if that is our typically our pra practice that we just
it's it is our practice that if it carries and you don't ask for a roll call vote it just goes carried. If you ask if you want to be noted then you ask for vote and then it will be noted who's v voting for or against. Otherwise we just because it's hard it's hard for for
anyone to hear if someone just voices opposition of one person because I mean that happens. Yep. But if you want to be recognized at it, then ask for a roll call vote in in the minutes. Okay, that I'm fine with that. That's all I had. Uh page three, uh under Commissioner
Hansen, uh it's Prairie Lakes Municipal Solid Waste Authority, you have PWMwa. I know that's a tough acronym. Um and then on page four, um it was uh you said Sheriff Glander. Yeah, it was it was actually Shane that did that. I don't
know if you needed to make a motion of that or or not. Yeah, it was Shane Richards that I had that too. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody took all my stuff. I can't even tell say anything. Way to go. That's it. Anybody else have any corrections or additions? Mr. Chair,
page two of four. Um, under two, sentence to serve. Should probably read the state STS crew leader funding has been cut. Yeah. Yeah. not the and then on on page one of four under um
agenda minutes on number four I I it's not that it's in well motion and second to pull the following item from the consent agenda to discuss um I think you just say motion second to approve and accept the the consent agenda and then those items that are pulled they're
approved later so you don't have to because there wasn't a motion there was no motion to pull them it was a request to pull Um, and then the motion was to approve the remaining. So I don't think you I don't think you need to just say yeah because it's already in there. It' be in there twice
then. Yeah. Okay. Just just eliminate that line and just later on they're approved. So the the motion to approve and accept the following consent agenda items. Yeah. And then you don't have to state which ones are pulled or not. That was that makes sense. Are there any
other uh corrections to the minutes? All right. With no hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes. I will make a motion to approve the motion by Phil. Do we have a second? Second. Second by Barry. Any disc further discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right.
Motion carries. All right. Move on to the consent agenda. Do we have any we would like to pull from the consent agenda? Yes, Mr. Chair. Um, I'd like number eight and well, I'd like number nine to
be pulled for discussion, but number eight, I just would like I think we I would like some clarification just some dialogue. I'm not number eight and if Denise isn't around, I'm sure our committee can just dialogue. Yeah, I wasn't there, but Okay. I called her yesterday about that one if you wanted
because I just think I mean it's I just would like some discussion. So, I don't need to pull number eight. Um, but I just would like an update or explanation of that. Okay. Yes, I'm here. Mr. Chair,
if maybe just a brief update on what that is exactly and how that on number eight and then it can stay on the consent agenda. Okay, perfect. If Denise, could you just explain the the agreement between Americanore RSVP?
Is RSVP the name of it? America RS is RSVP the name of Yes. Americaore RSVP. What is Can you explain that? Yeah, absolutely. So, it um it's back to the volunteer driver program and the um
the difficulty that we had and our local RSVP program having to close and losing their funding. So, we found another entity that offers this RS the same RSVP program. Um, although not locally, they
agreed to take on our volunteer drivers so that we don't h we no longer have to pay them the or provide them the 1099 at the end of the year. Um, we discussed those problems, but we did find a solution. This was the solution and it's just theou to get started with this new
entity. And the RSVP stands for retired um senior volunteer program. So it's it's just um they're using the same volunteer drivers just they're going to manage them. So yeah, I was I was going to have that in my report. I I won't do
it though. Yeah. I was going to Thanks, Barry. Now you took it. Okay. Thank you, Denise. Okay. So just um just number the number nine. So we'll pull we'll pull number nine. Let's put number nine um in car's at the end of
car's report um number as number six or well we'll put it after we'll put it in your report. How about that? All right. Does any is there anything else that we would like to remove from the pull from the consent agenda?
You know, the only thing I I mean, if if the board we can leave it there, but there's one one one thing in that contract that I would I don't know if it's a mistake or if it's just Did I miss it? I think we should I think we should pull it. Just pull it. Yeah, let's pull. Well, you you just want to
see this derailed. All right. So, if there's if there's no further uh items in the consent, I'll entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Motion motion by Erica, second by Phil. Any more discussion? Okay. All in favor
signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. All right. Commissioners, open forum. Do we have anybody? Morning, Nate. All right. Thanks, Nate.
So, uh, Donald Shannard. So, when you come up, please state your name and where you're you're at. What? I know. Well, I'll state your name and you state your address. You're curious. I'll give this. All right. This is on. Uh, my name is Don Shannard. I'm a homeless veteran here in
Detroit Lakes. Uh, good morning. I come before you today as a citizen of this county, one who has endured years of harassment, discrimination, and systemic abuse at the hands of the very institutions that are supposed to serve and protect us all. I'm here to speak on the socioeconomic discrimination that I
have personally experienced and I refuse to be silent about the reality of what's happening in Becker County and Detroit Lakes. For too long, I have been targeted not because I'm a uh committed any crimes and not because I'm a danger to the public, but because I do not conform to
the narrow uh materialistic and exclusionary vision that some of you have for this community. I live freely outside the artificial constraints of debt, status symbol, and social social mediadriven illusions of success. And that apparently makes me a threat.
The truth is, many of you have built your identities around status, wealth, and the illusion of power. You live in fear of those who refuse to play the game, those of us who don't define our worth by a mortgage, a job title, or the number of followers on social media. I
have been harassed because I do not fit neatly into your vision of who should exist in this county. I have been reported to the police simply for existing in a way that challenges the fragile identities of those who feel entitled to dictate who belongs here.
There are those who believe that their dollars buy them the right to police who gets to live freely in this community. Local law enforcement has been uh used as a tool against me. Over the past two years, law enforcement has been called
on me more than 50 times. Over 50 times, police and sheriff interactions. Not once has a single criminal charge been filed. No, no citations and no credible evidence. Just a relentless campaign of calls, complaints, court filings designed to uh break my spirit and drive me out of this community. What does that
tell you? It tells you that it's not about law and order. It's about intimidation. It is about silencing the people like me. The harassment doesn't stop at law enforcement. On August 23rd, 2023, I was forcibly evicted from my home, even though the landlord's claims were
blatantly fraudulent and any reasonable judge would have dismissed it on the spot. I filed an answer to the landlord's complaints that the court uh with the court clerk and judge Timony both approved. Yet, at the hearing, Timony refused to even look at my answer. I filed an official complaint
against her for uh denying me due process. I filed an appeal and I won. But did I get my home back? No. I remain homeless to this day. But it gets worse. My mother is 76 years old. She is on public housing and receives public housing assistance.
She lives at the same building where my section 8 case worker works. And he's also my mother's landlord. His name's Paul as Boston Nicole. For over nine years, I visited my mom every night. How are we going to feel safe to feel safe and connected? But the
moment that Paul learned that I won my appeal, within hours he dropped an eviction claim against her for no valid reason. He told her that if she doesn't want to be evicted that she must agree it's finally sadum which states that if I
ever step foot anywhere on the property again to visit her or to visit any of the 60 residents or even if I go to the H office to help me reinstate my section 8 benefits that she would be evicted and she be stripped of her public
housing benefits. This is the last bit at its most vicious and most foul form, an attempt to sever the most basic human bond a mother and child have. This was never about my housing. It was about pushing out those who don't
fit into the carefully curated ma uh image of Becker County that some of you are so desperate to maintain. Uh that's not all. Uh there's many other
human services in Mahubi among others that have violated my civil rights and you do not get to dictate who belongs here based on income, lifestyle or social status. If this is happening to me, I'm sure it's happening to others who are experiencing social econ
socioeconomic discrimination and I demand accountability. Thank you. Thanks, Donald. Thank you, Donald. All right. Reports. We'll move on to reports and correspondence. Who would like to go first? I'll go.
All right. Um I will keep it pathy. I promise. Um highway uh we are doing uh county road 7 north of Lake Park. Uh, one thing that changed a little bit in the north of the bridge there, um, the bids for in the city there came under
budget to a pretty good tune. So, they're going to do a reclaim instead of a mill and overlay, which which is a big deal for health of the road and years of longevity. Um, just FYI, that's just within the city though. Um, overweight, we're doing some new overweight permits that we've never done before. They're
not going to wreck our roads any worse. That was my first question, too. Um, we're going to be putting some reclamite. It's lit. You can see it in your stuff here. It's like seal coat only it's clear so the lines show through it. So, if it works, we would be
able to uh that that would be a a huge uh, you know, burden taken off the painting budget. I guess we're going to do Westlake Drive from Legion to the Pelican River. Uh, Richwood Road from 34 up to Tower. We're going to do Tower Road. We're going to do Highland Drive and the public works parking lot. So be
on the lookout for those things especially over the next few years. Um to the district 4 meetings everybody. Sure. Now I know the airport paving project is in is that a project that would be married with a bigger project
and get better pricing on I mean is that was that ever talked about at airport or No, it wasn't. Um this is like this is like the seal code stuff. I don't I know but you were talk I mean you're just but we partner with with townships and you know throw
in a project for them and we you know throw in paving projects on our parking lots. I got an airport tomorrow. I can ask. I've never thought of that before. This is I mean the the well we'll talk about the airport later but I mean or no that's been pulled. We'll figure that out. Oh good. I'm glad it was pulled. I'll bring
that up. But you know it it's the bigger the projects the better the prices you Yeah, we can we can do they've got by tune surfaces the block out there. So, I I'll bring it up tomorrow or Carrie will. Um, okay. Uh, we went to the district four meetings on the 6th. Um,
just the interesting things were cost shifts. Obviously, the sanctuary jurisdictions I thought were very interesting how you get on that or not on that. And then the opioid settlement. I'm glad I learned a little about that. You know, it's coming in over a lot of
years. um rack on the 9th uh discuss the bike trail, the Freys, um Dunlocks, H Heartland Trail, Wanigan Park. Um one thing I'm going to propose in some work sessions on um is just the recreational budget. That's we haven't had a recreational bud budget for the
last four years and um I want to start talking about that again. You know, one thing we talked about a little bit was let's set a I mean, let's set a goal of of two prim in find two primitive camp campsites new this year and seeing if we can't ex extend them. You know, let's
let's just do a a really simple goal for the rack community. Find two primitive campsites and and make them a little bit more um and then we can we can go on from there. I don't care I mean where they are. I mean I you know let's let's do a reasonable goal. Let's get
something done. I think I think with that though you need budget, right? Yeah. Like you need Well, I've got a plan for that. Y I'll take that one out. I'm going to get to that. Um so that was the rack committee. Um planning and zoning. We did a factf finding thing of
uh the Prairie Lakes mine uh between Pelican and Corproat. That is kind of off the list now, but that will be coming back. Um uh on the 12th uh me and Steve Scoo went down uh I just wanted to tour regional facilities. I did this on my own. Uh me
and Steve went we toured some construction and demo landfills down in Glenwood and Alexandria. We looked at the incinerator in Alexandria. Uh we went they got a brand new MURF and HHW recycles. It's beautiful. It is
beautiful. Um guys in Alexandria Alexandria. We went to the Pope Douglas ash recovery facility like they have out here uh for our recovery system over in PUM and they also have their organics program. That's where we'll be delivering our organics uh as that
program comes on program comes online. That's in Hoffman, Minnesota. And then we toured the Wadi Wadina um construction demolition and recycle site on our way back. Um appeals and equalization last night and that's all I
had. Um, these work sessions though, I I think we should carve out a time for work sessions. I've got about four of them that I think we rather than spend time at this meeting. Um, I think we should do work sessions on a park and wreck. This STS, I mean STS, we're going
to have to revamp at the end of the year what's happening. We're pushing it through to the end of the year, but what are we going to do going forward? I think we should do a work session on that. I think we should do a work session on interdep departmental work. Uh environmental has crushed concrete over there. Highway uses crushed
concrete. Um we need highway their equipment to do primitive campsites. Possibly start out with a couple. Um there's some there's some push back between departments, but I don't know how we work that. But I think we have a work session on that and we direct Carrie to to to make some of these
things happen. Um you know, there's always well we did more for them and they did more for us. I don't know how to handle that and I think that would be we could talk about that in a work session. just my opinion. Um the sheriff's accessory building, uh you know, I think we're going to approve
that today or that's on the list of with the city, but there's a bigger issue there. That's that's for a year. What are we going to do down the road long term? Um I think we should have a work session start at least hammering that out a little bit. Um Barry, you want to do some uh taxable market value rates on
tillable land. I think that's work work session stuff, not for the board meeting. Um, yeah, that's not a that I don't think that's an item for a work session, though. But you know what? We just had uh appeals and equalization last night, but for next year or if you
think it's going to take care of itself, but I think that's something if not that, I think we could just do how property is assessed. I thought that was great information Lee gave us last night and we sat there for three hours. I learned a lot there and I've been going to monthly meetings with him to try to figure it out. But I think that would be
good for all people to know if we can carve out the time. I think I think as far as that goes that I think that would be a good topic for AMC for them. I mean, I know that they're looking for different training topics and I think trying to figure out Minnesota's
property tax valuation system and I know that they had mentioned that before. I think that would be a great training because I think that's where you're going to learn more is somebody is in a training environment that that's what they do is teach you how to do it. We
did it at 101. I requested it and they did it at 101 specific so many aspects to it. They just did it. As you dive deeper, how does how does a township's property value average 27%. But how does one home go up 69% and one home go up
16%? I mean, how is that? Yeah, I don't I don't understand that either. How how is how is farmland valued at higher than what anything is sold for? I mean those how do we get the I don't think that's anything a work session is is going to help us. We're not going to we can't
change that because but how does one county value how is one county and then across that imaginary line this land is valued this much more and this it's we can change that. We go to a work session we sit down with Lee. He tells us how he comes up with the process. It can be
changed. We can do it. We need to have the knowledge to know how to do it. You you you you suggested it, Barry, that we could do that with with this rate. We could change our rate. I didn't know we could do that until you brought it up. That's an appeal. That's just the appeal process for changing the process.
Adjusted sales price. If if your assessor tells you this is the formula and the these are the numbers. I there's not much. Those are the numbers. Yeah. We certainly will appeal that rate. Next year, two two land sales that have been this year are the two averages 20%.
We're 20% high on bare land sales right now. That's according just just two land sales. Yeah. But I think that's going to continue. I disagree. I think we can do something about it. If learning about it is the one thing we can do about it, that is enough. But I've got other things on the list probably I will
disagree. We we can't arbitrarily change numbers in the assessor's office. We did it last night. So we can talk about that in a work session. No, I think that's is a work session. We we we you guys can discuss that. Let So is Yeah. So do we I
just want to add one thing to the rack committee. Um we the VFW has offered to donate labor to help refurbish the old shelter. So I thought that was kind of cool. Yeah. And then we also uh got a uh
tax forfeited parcel in Lake Little Sugar Bush Lake. Um when we talk about primitive sites, we had talked about that at the rack that maybe that would be a great place because there's already sewer and water there. Um there's a home there. Now, obviously the we can't use
maybe use the home township first, but yeah, they're going to talk to the township and Mitch and Mitch was going to reach out to the township and and and then there's a couple people that are on the rack committee that know a lot of the neighbors are going to reach out to the neighbors and see what kind of they thought. Um, so that's that was a
possibility too at the rack. And then also one more thing at the rack. Yeah. The the the at the Oage Beach there's a shelter across the road that is owned by the township. Mhm. and it's not being used and and and so we're going to figure out what the township needs so
that it can be used. It was ma mainly maintenance of the of the uh shelter because they don't have anybody. Are you talking about the one across the highway on 34? Yeah. South. I don't know my instructions. No, she Yeah, I found that out the other day.
Left side if you're driving. Yeah, left side. So, they're they're going to they're going to do some investigating. That's just any that I'm just so Yeah. Yep. Go ahead. Does anybody else have any who wants to go next? I can go next. Um I was also at AMC. I agree that the
sanctuary counties was was very interesting and that nobody really knows how to get on them or how to get off them. Um and it's also always um interesting to get the updates to really learn more about all the behind
thescenes work of of what happened on at the legislative session. So, um I always say I think that's something that we don't see or we don't maybe comprehend how much work AMC does behind the scenes. They do so much work. It's unbelievable. I know. And there's specific stuff that I I know for a fact
how hard they've worked. That's not I mean not even testimony, but going to they have good contacts. They're well respected. So, um they carry a lot of weight with a lot of legislators. And I think I think it's really as we're talking and this was talked about at the
meeting too about you know if their dues go up we get our money's worth from from AMC because of the work that they do. And even just thinking about this legislative session and the work that they were integral in getting completed for for helping counties out is was well
look at what when we researched the cost of a a lobbyist for that a one one item. Mhm. I mean, how expensive that was and think of what we get with AMC as a as a collective county group. Um, the only other I was down in the city last week, so I missed a couple meetings. So, the
only other one I had was um housing. We discussed the statewide affordable housing aid um regarding the RFP for Maple Avenue, which is on the agenda, and then just continued our um discussion about our contract with MMCDC, which we'll be meeting with them
shortly or in the next couple months. And then I just I just wanted to speak a little bit about the work sessions because I think I think I I think work sessions have a place um when we have a specific thing we want to
talk to. But I also just want to caution us because I think one of the thing that's very important about having the conversation in this board and I think Nate will probably agree is we need to be transparent and and we need to have part of that conversation here for for
our constituents to hear. So I think while I think work sessions have a place, I think the conversation that we have at the board is also important. That's all I have. All right. who would like to um
I'll start with uh land use. Um Richard and I had land use so chime in any where you want on it. Um there coming forward there will be a land acquisition from the US Fish and Wildlife on a pro property near Tamarak. Um it will adjoin
Tamarak and it will connect an piece of property that they had as an island. Um, so they'll be coming in the future to ask the board's opinion. Um, we reviewed the Dun Locks. Uh, the new facility is and and I if if you go on Facebook,
there are so many positive comments about the new shelter and how how great it is and how nice it is. So, um, we we think it was a bit spendy for sure, but um, there it at the end of the day, it's it's a great item. And of course, I did
hear some concerns about parking. They criticize the parking out there, but um over taking care of that. Yes. Um there was a a rout uh gave a trail routing study on the kickoff of by the
we for the behind we fest and over to shore. So they're looking at that. Um Oage swimming beach, the DNR was out there and pulled some rebar out of and some of that area. They couldn't get it all. They think it was pretty deep. Just one thing I want to add to the Dun
Locks. So that parking lot that is in the rightway on the road that comes off of 59 to Dun Locks. Um they're looking at the other side of the road using the rightway and making more about five or six more parking spots. Oh, the at RA committee that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Go ahead. That's okay. I did mean to, but I didn't. We um um we had a retirement at NRM. Um, so I don't know if we look at HR. Can we
can we say anything about John's retirement and congratulations and thank you for his many years of service. It's been a uh just been so solid out there and uh thank thank you for everything you've done. Um so that was filled by the last
year's seasonal help and uh so that's up and running. Um Mary had a concern about a property that might be on a property over on the property line. So we're going to review that and I think our surveyor was at the meeting and he was going to um look at
that a little bit closer. Um Mary, you want to update on the We're going to wait until October for the second tax forfeit sale, tax for land sale. Um
another another encroachment issue on um attacks for land down in the Lake Ununas area and um concerns about that was this was just uh some old dock sitting on the land. Um you start looking at some of these properties even that property goes into Blue Water Bay. Um it could be a
walk-in access for for canoes or kayaks too if because that's some decent fishing in there in the spring and the fall. So that could be another rack, you know, just a twocar park spot and and walk-in access only to a to a nice fish spot. Um,
White Earth um, White Earth Nation was there um, represent with representatives and Dusty and and Dave were there again. Um they gave us a just some nice where where they're at with some forestry things and um they were very supportive of what we had going and didn't have any
concerns. I don't think Richard you agree. Yep. That that's going really good with them. Um and then I was just going to say Barry about that cell tower. Uh we're getting another one up there north a little bit. Miji and then the tribe is
doing a cell tower cell tower by right. So, finally we're going to be able to use our phones up there, which is very important. I think I went fishing on Bad Medicine, but two weeks ago, and I could use my cell phone on the lake. Mhm. And people are really happy about that. I
don't know if if it's great to use a cell phone. I could use it though. No, you can't. You won't get struck by lightning using it. And then one other thing I ask I think I asked Carrie to and uh to to work on a little bit is our adopt the highway program. Um, so right
now, this is this is one of the things I think Phil is talking about. Right now, our highway department sponsors it and then they they go pick it up and then they get charged at environmental to pay for the volunteers picking up garbage.
Um, I've had a group that has asked, we will bring it in, but we don't want to pay. We pick all the garbage out of the ditches. Why should we be this group? Why are we paying to dump it? So I I think we have to figure out a system if the group wants to haul all that garbage in that they are should not be charged
and I don't know that we should be charging highway. So um but you can't just have any anyone come in and say oh this is we volunteered to pick up garbage. No, I mean there has to be some sort of process or or to each group on what day
they have to be, you know, but I I I would like to see if a group wants to haul in their garbage, they can haul it in for free. And I think highway shouldn't be charged environment environmental shouldn't be charging highway to to to pick up or to take garbage from. It seems to me though that there is
something in statute that requires anything I ask Steve because Steve and I had had a conversation before about it and there is no like just free taken garbage. Well, then we could have a a voucher system or something and then and I mean
I think we have to have it where they somehow you account for it, but I don't know. We can charge whatever we want. We don't have to charge for garbage at all if we don't want to. We shouldn't be charging for the guys who are picking it up on the highway. You're right about the And that's not the only thing though, Barry. There there's some stuff
that Yes, I know there's other things going. We agree that a lot of this stuff needs to be eliminated. We're all one. I mean, you can I think if you want to track it, it's that's fine. Yep. But I think it has to be tracked. But I just don't think that we need No, we shouldn't be. Mr. Chair, Commissioner
Barber, Commissioner Nelson, to me, this is a a work session right here because this isn't a singular issue. It's interdep departmental work and seeing how we can do what what is best for for the county. And one thing with a work session too, those are public, right?
Yes, work sessions are So we are online with work. We're not necessarily online. They're not online, but Well, you can watch, right? No, no, we haven't done We have, but they are public. So, we'd have to notice. Yeah, they're posted. Yeah. Um, anything else on NRM? No, I think
that that again that relationship with the tribe is working out very well. And uh and I mentioning the tribe. the tribe had their um big powo celebration. Now I I didn't attend but um I've have been up there in pastures and it is is quite
interesting to go. Um um so hopefully they had a one a great a great weekend for it. Not too warm and maybe a little rain came through but hopefully they could they did everything got everything in. Um then another meeting Phil and I met with um Buffalo Red Wershed about
the project and um I just asked Phil if he wanted to you know Phil he wants to learn everything as fast as he can. So he he did it and um they explained some the back history to start with and and then um then after Phil left the rest of us could talk and then we
we got to some discussions um I'll get them later. We got some um Bill Steel was there. So we we looked at some options to to look at this pro at that project and what would be um different different ways to maybe fund
it, different ways uh re maybe reduce the size of it to some degree. Um um they were going to take that back to their board and uh they had a meeting. I don't their meeting went I don't know if they came to any decisions or or or not.
I haven't actually haven't heard. I did hear there was a a board member that was criticizing me pretty well. I I I guess I've been critic I bet I I'm sure I've been criticized before, so I guess I can live through a little crit.
But it's interesting. Um I don't I guess I'm here to be thrown under the bus, but I don't think it's appropriate for board members to throw other board members and whether you're you're partners, you're not adversaries. So, it was a little We're not We're We're partners, Richard.
We are. Yes. We don't have to agree for sure. Um that's that's it for now. Okay. So, I'm going to go back to this RSVP thing. Oh, yeah. Erica knows about
it. Dave knows about it a little bit, but so we found out they cut the funding for it. That's why we didn't have it here anymore. And so it was going to cost us a lot of money. And also those retired people have relationships with the people they're transporting. We
transport people all the way to Rochester. Yep. And so it it isn't just about the money. Money's important, but we would have lost those relationships. But the people over at human services looked high and low and they found out
that it was only cut to the rural areas. Okay? So if you live in down by the metro and so that's I think they found this one in St. Cloud. So um but those those people really went and and did
their job like they they do a good job and they did a good job there. Um so and and it makes a big difference for everybody. Um, and then I had um, uh, safety
and so we're going to we need CPR training. We need that. Um, so we're talking about doing it ourselves. Uh, but we don't have any money and we need a dummy. Why not? I didn't want I almost didn't want to
report on this, Barry. do. Oh, we might have some we might have some options there. Why not? Uh, and and I guess we have some old dummies somewhere. You're old. I think the sheriff's got them. He's only saying that cuz you're just a little bit older. Mr. Chair,
Commissioner Verber, you mean we have to be trained or all of our employees? I'm not going to try and save anybody. If you guys see me go down, don't try and save me. Uh, but I don't dare try and save anybody. But all our employees need to be trained. Yeah. Well, yeah. Just so
they're going to be the volunteers and they need this training. It reoccur. They have to keep up on it. And so we're talking about doing it ourselves because we have so many employees and we should have somebody that can do this training. Can and can you train and dummies? We
have and we need these dummies. And so I thought at Annies but would be no problem. But I guess we they got electronic dummies now. And if you're doing it wrong, they'll tell you you're doing it wrong. So, um, is there anything through AMC, you think, that might
or one of our MC triple M triple C and then triple C there or um I was going to actually talk to Sheriff Glander as well because his staff would be you that were involved might have a locally. Yeah. I I had suggested that
perhaps you know for other employees you know for your staff we could team up with his department as well. I think for yeah for certain staff we want them to be actually certified. That's what this is for right the certification. Certification and I also would suggest the AED and then and then
if you and if you I mean you guys know this if you teach that you get someone if you certify someone you have to be certified an instructor CPR and and andor first aid. Okay. And we and we want to take as many people in the county that want this, anybody that
wants it, we want them to have it. Uh the more people that have it, the safer it is. And we brought the training in. I think it was shortly probably 23 22 right when we got 2022 is the last time I can remember for other county employees when it was offered. So So do
we have anybody in the county currently that is certified in instructor CPR? Yeah, we a trainer. Trainer certified. Oh, no. We don't have a trainer though, but we have people that are certified. Yeah. But so again, we don't have any money. I don't know who I talked to about that. Maybe Peggy, you got any
money? I'll write a check. But so somehow it's the safety committee. I don't know. It doesn't have any money. They want I wonder if there's grants for that. Well, I don't know, but it would be worth looking into to see if there's something out there. I think also teaming with perhaps public
health. They may have some better ideas about funding or sources. That's all I got. All right. I have a just a couple, so I'll go quick here. Um, just a couple things to add to human services. The title 4E foster care continuous monitoring. That's a Okay.
So, I I had I haven't actually been to a human service committee for a long time, so I actually learned quite a bit. So anyway, we they selected five cases for for this and we were all in compliance, which is great. Now, I don't know the number. I can't remember what I was told. It was either 95% throughout the
whole state or they can have like five cases that could be not compliant. I can't Yeah, we're we're currently under a period under review. The state is Yeah. And if if we don't, you know, it's a big deal. Yeah. I'm just going to say it's a big deal. So we so it's not just
our county's compliant. The whole state has to be compliant in order to get the federal funding. So they the state is doing a obviously a pre-study but there are some counties that need a lot of help. That's what I found out. And and they could detriment the whole state. So
that's the scary thing that we Yeah. Yeah. And and our county has always been very very good at at for there's a lot of components that come with it. And just so everybody knows what 4E is, fore eligibility is what is the federal funding that pays for foster care
placements. Yep. So it's it's a big chunk of money. Yep. And it Yeah. And so they were they stressed the fact that we could be compliant but we might not get any money. So then we then they also had two audits. Had a UKAR audit which they were they found a few minor things they had to correct which wasn't very big
deal. And they also had a Medicica audit which they found a few minor things but other than that I mean I I our human services people are doing a great job. So I I think that's important for us to mention that. Um and then I had a historical society meeting and on
October 11th the pavilion the the historical society is going to have a celebration at the pavilion. It'll be the last event in the current pavilion. So they're trying to figure out what they should do. They talked about maybe having music for the ages. I don't know.
Some they're they're having they're running a bunch of ideas. Um and so it could be a really cool event possibly for the the museum is putting that on. Yep. This Yeah, the museum is Yeah. Is it a is it they funded through a state grant or No, they're just going to
they're I'm assuming they're going to charge charge to get in. Charge to get in, I would imagine. Yeah. Um, and then also an interesting thing came up about the world's smallest gas station. And we used to have the world's smallest gas
station in Detroit Lakes. Anyway, uh, so what it it it used it it used to be where the in front of the Greystone, I have pictures somewhere in this mess of stuff. So, if anybody wants to look at I don't know. I
want to look. I want to see it. Anyway, so I like it. It it it used to be in front of the Greystone and then um it as it progressively got smaller and smaller and smaller as the Greystone expanded, as the highway expanded. So what what some people I don't know who came to the
to Becky Mitchell, but they wanted would like to either make a big plaque a big plaque or something to put up put up where it used to be or maybe somebody even said make a replica of it and with the with the whole story about how the gas station started, who owned it, how
it got smaller. Um and I mean it's tiny. If you look at it when it's done, it's just a little square and then there was actually there was actually a basement in it too. So Oh wow. Yeah. So it was kind of cool thing to talk about. Uh yeah, and that's the that and then I had
rack with uh Phil and then also Dancing Sky. So we I just had a Dancing Sky meeting yesterday and just a couple quick things. Um they they so they the our county m they have county matching fund requests every year and it's a very
small amount. So they you talked that I had talked about about three years ago about voting on it. What what the formula did is it it it gave more funding to 60 plus people than it did to rural areas. And so that means
the metro areas got more money than than they had before. So it took away some of our funding. So, that's part of why the funding is going down. Um, and then the the increase in cost of everything also has gone up and the and the funding has is not gone up. It's basically stayed the same. So, they're looking at that.
They they have a plan obviously. I mean, they're they're they're pretty sharp people at that place. And then some um and then in some of the other the AAA's the area aging, the area associations on aging, they are they have waiting lists for meal deliveries.
And I I did not know that existed. I couldn't believe it. We do not have a waiting list. We have a good plan. Um they feel that our plan is solid for into the future even up you know maybe up to 3 four years. Um they're actually
bank they're say they're able to set aside some funding for in case something happens in case increased costs happen. But we have a but we are our in our area um that we're in in the dancing sky. There are people that they they you know
they there's a donation they can give donations when they get meals and or when they bring them and people are very generous about donating. So that's keeping the cost way down and then they're able to deliver all the meals to people. I just couldn't believe there's a waiting list for people that need meals. I that need delivered meals. I
couldn't believe it. But anyway, so and then the one last thing, the senior linkage line, which is what people call in to get advice mainly for for medical insurance, um but other things is going to be I have a name change and they don't know what it is. So, but and
that's all I have. Does anybody else have anything for reports or correspondence? I'm just going to pass this this paper down. The area circled here, that's connecting those two pieces for Tamarak. And these are the the survey lines that as you can read the some of them are completed and
some are going. That's the grant. Um there's no more money going to be put towards this from the state it sounds like for quite some time because there's no funding. But those two lines have been or will be completed if you want. That's for that survey points section
corner points. think we're to carry. Um, do we have appointments? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I was reading. Sorry. All right. So, we we're move on to appointments. So, I have one appointment. Um, I would like to make a motion or I'll make a motion
to reappoint Tom Dizzy to the planning commission. Second. So we have a motion and a second. Do we have any further discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. All right. Motion carries. Um one other that is forthcoming very uh so district three
planning and zoning we had a resignation. So that is being posted I assume now. Yes. So okay. Do we have any applicants here? I think we have at least one. We have at least one. John Okusen was Oh. Nice. Okay. And then then one one more.
Um, you want to make that appointment today or are you waiting? No, we got to wait. We're We're advertising. You don't It's a It's up to you. Yes. It's your decision. It's I mean, let it come through and then we'll I mean I You want to wait
to see if anyone else that it's up I'm just saying it's a I think we could. It's not a It's not a um mandatory um advertising time like a like an opening. This is a re resignation. So, I don't care what you do. I'm just asking you.
I'll move to appoint John Oakson on to the planning and zoning commission. Second. Okay. We have a motion by Phil, a second by Erica. Do we have any discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. All right. Motion carries. And then I have one more. We
have one more. Um, Wanigan Park commit or commissioner or former commissioner used to be on the Wanigan park committee. I don't know that's the actual name of it but now the Frzy Development Committee community community corporation is in char is basically in charge of wanting park and
they would like a representative from Becker County to from the our commission to be to go to their meetings and so it's my district I went to the it's Frzy Community Development Corporation
but they kind of manage the Wanigan Park thing. They've done some fundraising. So, I have went to the meeting. Um, so I didn't know it was an appointment. They I'm not sure. I I don't know. That's why I brought up. We I think we appointed John as a startup. I don't know. I don't
know what the role of a county appointment would be. I mean, there's no county funding. I mean, I don't have a problem with being but I'm just not sure if I mean we're not in any other city. Are we in any other city appointment? I
mean, are we appoint any members to sit on city functions? You know what I asked on the rack committee? I said, "Hey, what what's going on with Wana?" And no one knew. And then they had a meeting like the next day. So, I went over there to the meeting and uh you know, it's it's something it's in my district. I'm
going to go anyway. Right. Right. So, uh but I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure the rel what relationship we have to to have an official appointment on there. I mean, are they what type of board is it? It's it's an there are no they're not appointed by the city council. I asked they are just for the
betterment of Wingington Park. It's they have no so they just want someone they're asking for you to show up representative from the county. I don't I think before I would support an appointment an official appointment for a board to sit on there officially. I think we have to have better understanding of what the board is. I I
it's like Lake Park has a betterment societ betterment improvement. M um I don't know that we want to have board members represent I mean certainly are welcome to go to them and and assist but anyway you know Barry that's a good point. I I I'm going to go
uh just because I want to know what's going on for the rack and it's in my district. So uh but that point was taken I I didn't know how that I think we did right away because they were asking for funding and through the through the Wanigan park but I think it would it would it have to be
official. I don't I'm just I would need more information. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We'll talk about that. Sounds good. All right. So, we do have any more appointments. All right. Let's move on to our county administrator. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um
the first thing I wanted to um let all of you know, and I think this is a a happy a happy point. Um Brian McDonald had received hero of the month award from the Red River Children's Advocacy Center. So, it's up on the screen. And I just I thought it was important that we actually I actually read to you what was
written. Um we're proud to recognize Brian McDonald Becker County Attorney as our June Hero of the Month. Since taking office in 2018, Brian has made it his mission to protect children and hold offenders accountable. Early in his role, he prosecuted three major abuse
cases in just a few months. And that's when his powerful partnership with the RRCAC began. From supporting forensic interviews to preparing for trial and investing in our mission, Brian continues to show up in every way that matters. Thank you, Brian, for your
fierce advocacy and steadfast support. We're proud to have you in our corner. That's awesome. Yeah, congratulations, Brian. Congratulations, Brian. And I I just have to say, having worked with Brian in my previous role, Ryan Brian is
very much an advocate for children. Um, so I think it's very welld deserved. So, congratulations, Brian. Yeah. And I think he's gotten this before. Um, he has. Yes. Um, because I had to go research to make sure I wasn't repeating
something from old from from the past. But congratulations, Brian. Um I know um some of you have talked about ongoing collaboration and communication with White Earth and I have been having um it just actually started um weekly calls with with White
Earth um um Mr. uh Hanks as well as Manomomen County administrators on those calls as well. So we're talking about what's happening in our area and uh future planning going forward. So that's been uh really good. Um when I was on my
last call with White Earth, they had asked uh if you recall a while back, we had uh formed a Wii comm I named it the Wii committee and I believe you and Barber B are on that committee. Um there has been a request for the two of you
off of that committee to meet with two of their tribal council members and they did throw out some dates. They do have some topics of interest that they would like to discuss in more of a committee uh function. Has there been any more we
had that one meeting with the with them at the casino? Is there been any more discussion or talk about doing more? I I don't in I mean is that a thing that we want to do or um I it's starting with this more of the committee and I would expect that it probably will expand into
the other. So Kion, one thing that White Earth has is they have some tri they have some primitive campgrounds that they um that they have and and I think they're pretty much first come first serve, but if there's larger events, they will take reservations and there's so I mean maybe utilizing what they've
how they've handled some of those primitive campgrounds so we can duplicate the same that would maybe be a a topic as well. Um, so I certainly um they have thrown out some dates on July of potential. So
is it just me and her or Manomomen and Clear Water? Is it It would just as I understand they already do this with Manomomen County and one or two of their commissioners and they're asking to do the same here. Okay. Um so the dates that they threw out were July 8th, 9th
or 10th. Um they suggested perhaps a working lunch or something like that such as that. Anytime. Anytime. Okay. So I have to look at my work calendar. Yeah. The two of you just want to kind of look at the dates and let me know and I can coordinate for
you. Yeah, you will. We have NRM on the 8th. Okay. Um so in that meeting when I was speaking to Richard Hanks from the tribe he hold the similar role that I hold here as far as administration uh for white earth um he
just wanted to report that white earth has had some um meetings with some of the local farmers in a workg groupoup session. So again, I think they are working to do some um more of those informal meetings and they he had referenced the Zern farm and some of the
farmers and some of the farmer issues that have come up in the past. So they've been meeting ongoing it sounds like. Um budgeting timeline is being put together and suggestions. Um, I've had this um topic come up and perhaps going
forward we may want to consider uh some work sessions for budgeting perhaps during our finance time or another time as we kind of work through budgets and get additional information on state budgets and how that's going to look for us.
Um, reminder June 30th there is a scheduled work session for the ordinance uh prioritization work session. I don't know what we want to call it, but with regards to ordinances, um the lease agreement from the city of Detroit Lakes on the storage rental, I
just actually just got that yesterday. Um I do have it on or wanted to I had just formally I I had heard through the grapevine that we are awarded um as I responded to the RFP for the storage space from the city and that was uh
formally voted on at their city council and was awarded to the county. Um he just sent over a lease agreement yesterday. I've sent that off to Brian to review. Um the main thing that we're trying to work out is the date that we can get in there. It's either going to
be July 1 or July 17th. They have a Blake Shirts I believe is in there and so they were working out there technically I think they have it until the 17th of July. So we're just working out the dates. So once that's finalized that'll come back to board. Well yes sir. I mean, if it's July 1, we won't
have a meeting till 2nd. Is it? It is on the first. It is on the meeting. I mean, I think we can authorize I mean, we've already approved the offer and that's fine with the And again, Brian, I sent it to him yesterday upon receipt and he hasn't had a chance
yet to review it. We authorized Carrie to sign on behalf on the approve already approved upon and negotiate the final contract. Yeah, the final contract. Mhm. With the sheriff and then so we can so you have the authority to
move. I'll make that a motion. Okay. Carrie to sign that contract. I'll second. So we have a motion in a second. Do we have any discussion? Yeah. I want to say one thing that I disagree with this. I'm going to go along with this because we need that equipment in one spot. So I I agree with that.
But we now we can't come back next year and redo this. We need to do and we talked about this Barry. We need to do something now so that next year we have a place to put that stuff. And so I don't know if this is your work session thing. It is. That's exactly what I was
going to say. But that we we I don't like I don't like renting stuff. Well, then we have a year to figure it out. We do. But but we have to get going on. We don't have a year to figure it out. We sure do. This is a year lease, right? I think you want to start planning prior to we're not going to pull out before a
year if we No, but we no matter what we do, we got to have a plan when that comes. Mr. Chair, I agree. I think we I think we have a plan. We have a plan. It's ready. It's ready to go with the board's you know and that's my problem Barry is that plan is so expensive and I
don't know the future of the economy and other things property taxes and it to house this emergency stuff is what I'm really concerned with
and that so I I don't know that that can be that I can agree with that plan. And I do agree that we we should build something. I I would like to look at the pieces of equipment that I want to look at the emergency stuff, find out find
out what exactly we need because your plan is very expensive and that's scares me. But okay. So anyway, yeah. And we can we can discuss that. Yes. Second. So we have a motion and a
second. Do we have any more discussion? All right. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. All right. Motion carries. Just for carry to approve. Yep. All right. Go ahead. Yeah, please go ahead. Okay. So, the next item that is uh there was a request by uh Mr. Ingam
and Mr. Olsen with regards to a barricade issue. Negotiation. Barry. [Music] Perfect. Just before you speak, please say your names so we know who I know. We I know who you are, but Good morning.
I'm Mike Ingham uh from Becker County. Yeah. I'm Kevin Olsen from the Detroit Township. I'm Charlie Jaskin, Detroit Township supervisor. Okay. I am here on the the issue that I was here about a month ago
on the 245th Avenue um barricade and uh we've had some Can you pull it up on the screen? Interactions back and forth um via email. Um, initially when I talked to to Brian about it on the phone, he said, "Well, this has been
going on for 32 years. I don't know how we go against it." Then the next email response was is I uh I don't see us granting easement. And that's the part where this isn't an easement. This is public roadway. It's a public township road. Um, it's never been vacated. So
then I went to the Detroit Township uh board last week and presented to the Detroit Township saying that this uh road that is Detroit Township's road has been barricaded and uh so they agreed to come today to to discuss the non-
vacated road with the board. Yeah, we I tried to work this out, you know, and and somebody said we have to protect the county, but I thought that we were the county. I don't know. I think the citizens are the county and
we're not protecting them. And actually, this is going to cost us some money to fence both sides of that road. But the more I thought about this whole thing, that is just the right way to do it. Uh you shouldn't have to. there's a road there and they the county didn't the the
county government didn't want to work with your family which is sad. Um but so I think that that we need to fence both sides of that and I think them guys need to take that gate down which I believe they're ready to do. I don't see I don't see any reason why we would do anything
different. The the township Charlie Oh, okay. Here's the deal. It's it's it's not as simple as an agreement between two parties. If a road gets vacated, it's a very extensive pro uh process to vacate
a township road. Mhm. So, I mean, we researched the minutes. We I talked to old county or township people, the road maintenance guys, everybody and um was all there was is there was agreement
between the Schlatterha family and uh the the county at that time which was just kind of a working relationship but as far as a vacation or anything like that there was never even brought to the town board's
has there been any maintenance by the township on Yeah, we did maintenance up through about 20 years ago. Okay. Um, they graded it once or twice a year, but then I even tried talking to some of the old maintenance guys, families and that
stuff, but our last three maintenance guys, they've all passed. So, there we can't talk to them. But I know there was a key that they had access to that road and they maintained it up until I'm guessing it was about 15 16 years ago
when when one uh road maintenance guy passed on and his son took over his business and his son just did not do it anymore after that. Um but that's um
technically I mean that barricade never should have been put up there. I mean you're you're blocking a public road. Mhm. Now the good thing is it's for 30 some years it's worked out that between the slaughter us and the county nobody cared. Mhm. And we didn't hear any complaints. So we thought well fine
that's I mean if everybody's happy we're not going to rock the boat. But now there's there's some circumstances are changing and we're happy at the the original agreement, but the problem is is it needs to be recorded that we have access and that agreement was never
recorded and obviously so then it falls back on the public roadway as our easement because the the southeast quarter there is adjacent to that road piece. What what do you want? Well, I to be honest, I'd rather keep it the way it
is. But how do we get there when we're violating the public road right away? Um, and you guys don't want you want to get rid of the barricade. This is the deal. No, personally, we don't care. But is all it's going to take is for one person to want to build a house back
there or put a cabin or something back there, then they're going to require public access to it. And we're going to have no choice. That that barricade is going to have to come down. is. And that's unfortunately that's probably I've thought this over because that just
you guys are using it for sledding. It's right behind my house. I see I see them out there sledding and doing different things back there. But what if somebody does want to do something? It it it it limits the use of that land is what it
does do. And um I'm almost glad it went this far because the right thing to do is open that road. Um that's that's and fence both sides. We've been violating statues all along for 30 some years by
barricading and closing it. Yeah. We can't even if we wanted to vacate that road, we can't because all that property would be landlocked. Yeah. So, according to state statute, we've all been in violation of it and u the right thing to
do is Mr. Chair, um um I I want to do the right thing here. I I believe a lot of what Richard said the 30 years ago probably didn't, you know, we just kind of handshake agreement. I want to provide the access I think we need to do that. However, in the last 30 years, we've put a millions of dollars into all
of that stuff there and we want to protect our asset out there. I assume those gates are all closed at night so you can't get into the that's why the gate was probably put up. I don't know by us or whoever. Um the pollution control. Okay. Well, that might be another issue if they have an issue with
it. We don't care what they think. Here's here's what I'm number Phil. I do have an answer for you. When I did talk to pollution and control to see if they had a copy of this signed agreement from 32 years ago, which they may in St. Paul in some dungeon, but there's they had no knowledge of it at their office here in
deal. They uh advised that when they initially put the fence up is before the methane gas that was coming off. Well, now the methane gas is coming off at such a low rate, it's not a risk anymore. So, we've actually now to the point where Yeah. Yeah. So that's why the we looked for some alternative ways to get in across the railroad tracks on
59 into a a property there, but that won't work because there's some kind of a covenant there that and then the railroad goes through there and they're not going to allow that. And the other side is really tough. But the west side is all it would take for us is a fence
on each side of that road and some gates and and got a gate now, huh? We got a gate now. No, I mean take that gate out of there and fence both sides of that township road and gate it and then this is done. I I hate to see you get into
something that you wish you wouldn't have done. Should you guys should somebody want to live back there? There's a lot of there's a lot of What road is it involved? 245. Mr. Chair, Commissioner Varberg, wouldn't that if Okay, if you if you
gated that and and put fence on either side, but we still we wouldn't be able to get to our demolition landfill. Then we just open the gates when it's when it's when it's during bisecting crossing. Yeah. We just close the gates at night, open them during the day. And
it's a really good long-term plan for you rather than the key system that we're using now. And I don't even know what kind of we can't give you access to that road. They'd have to give you access to that road. We after we looked into all this, the county ain't got no
power here, which I'm glad they don't because if they did, you'd get a boot in the rear end. Right. So anyway, we don't have anything to say about it. I hope you guys just Well, it's it's set in stone. We
all we do is is what what's in statute. Yeah. I mean, isn't there isn't there like after seven years or six years if you haven't maintained a road 25 years? 25 years. No. If you're if you're maintaining a township thing, 25. If
you're maintaining a road, then you have adverse possession. Yeah. Up for seven years. It's in the Mad Magazine law. Well, we want to do the right thing anyway. We just need to do the right thing. land is getting more and more expensive. Can you pull up the GPS and show us
where it is on overhead on the You're really horrible. I've got Detroit Township. There's Jim. Jim's probably knows more about this than anyone. I even know how to do GPS. What are you What are you trying to do?
It's right off County 141. Just on the east side of the landfill. Give me this thing. Well, I know I'm not qualified. 41. But I use this all the time. Let me see. May I approach you, sir? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Just bring
it up here. Mr. Chair, so you guys you guys would like to keep it the way it is. That's for Township and for him. I personally don't care. It's just if we keep kicking the can down the road, it's not going to get any better. Sorry. So, I think that
if nothing else, so this is where the game we need to get a plan at least started so we have an idea of where we're going to end. Okay. Need more technical help this call. 144. It runs solid from 144. 144. Yeah, we
said 141. Oh, okay. Right here. Yeah, they're all the same. So, runs past the HHW. Yeah. right next to the west of that. That was the Dave Early property that uh the county bought and that's in that sale of the Dave Early property from my first meeting. It
says that west line is the public roadway. Mr. Chair Carrie, can you give us an update? What what does the attorney said because we had the attorney look at it. What was his recommendation? Or where's the property that you access on? uh further south of there at the southeast
quarter of that uh Barry a half a mile south of 144. Yeah. So that township road runs a half mile down to the middle of the section and that's the axis right there. Is that right? That's
144 through this. Sure. With regards with regards, you see where the 17 is there? This is section 17. This is 245th. Yep. And then our uh
property goes south here down this way. And so this this public access from here to here is 245th. And that that is adjacent to our corner. So you can see our construction and demolition landfill on the right hand side.
And this actually was my grandfather's before he sold it to the county for the demolition. So So on the left hand side we've got the you know the murf is all down there the all of our so we don't I assume we don't want people coming in and out of there after hours. That's the
gate I assume. And this is where the reclaim was done for the super fund. Yeah. Mhm. Is thank you. The whole southside is that fenced or that also have to be fenced? All you'd have to do is both sides of the road back to your property
and and some gates. It's the simplest thing and it would allow you to do anything with that land in the future. That's and that's what Who's paying for the fencing, Richard? We're paying for it, Phil, because they tried to work something out for us. They did the right
thing by helping us in the first place and it's our property. We need They did the right thing years ago and they came back to us and we turned them down because we're crappy and so now we just need to do the right thing. I mean, I
think what it comes down to is they're they don't other than their Becker County taxpayers. They don't they don't have to worry about, you know, the people going in there. It's us that we we need to protect that. We need to build I don't know. I don't know that we need to I
mean fence everything. I think I got my pointer. How's this? I mean, I don't know that we need to fence this whole line. I think we need to put gates here and fence it so it's not accessible the our property here and then gates here and here and and you might have to
stretch this side, but I don't know. I mean, we don't necessarily need fencing on the west side commissioners. I I just say the fencing is not my concern. Uh the gate is my concern and the access and and so forth. So, I from my other
side of my professional side, I'd rather have it gated at the road because deadend township roads like that are a place for dope deals and other things, illegal dumping. I get that. But at the end of the day, the statute says that the road must be open. So I don't know
hopefully I think we will have I mean we have some cameras on site and we're you know with with so hopefully even the household hazardous waste has cameras if not I think that I'm I'm sure you do and if you don't get them but um I think we gate we take this gate out then and gate
here here and here and probably here also and extend those gates so it's people can't gain access on the roads property Yeah, we we'd put a gate at our access point. So, if you do that maintain it, you have to
think about how you turn that equipment out. They don't have to maintain it. Yeah, they do. It's Township Road. That's what they're We have to maintain the road. Minimal. Minimal. Yeah. Minimal. Yeah.
Yeah. There's lots of minimal maintenance. That's there. There's a lot of roads like that. Yeah. I mean, you're not going to do snow stone removal. No, that that'll be up to the county to access their property. So, grading once a year. Yeah. And and honestly, the county's using that.
We're going to use it anyway. We're going to be grading that because if we degregate the road also. Mr. Chair Kerry, could I get what what was our attorney's issue or he Yes, he had reviewed it and uh as of yesterday, he
had tried to set a meeting or get in touch. I believe it was with your attorney or the attorney representing your trust and that had not happened. So, but he did not think it would be in the county's best interest to sign the Yeah.
the gating. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. I think I I think we move forward and mitigate our accesses and make that I mean if the request is from the township I don't think we have a choice and I think it's a township road um grant the
township you know take that for I mean I think you had access to it if you wanted before but yeah we had a key to it um so then we just if we grant access to that then county just has to figure it out we just have to protect our properties from trespass well that so I don't That's not
that hard to do. No. So, do we have a motion to uh what do we want to remove the gate? Do we I don't know if we allow the town to do anything. I think we actually um put this in the discussion saying that the
township acknowledged this issue or the county and we are going to rem cooperatively in agreement with the township and the land owners remove the gate and so they so everyone has access and gate our own properties access points. Okay. And then in the meantime,
I think NRM needs to not inter NRM environmental services needs to get some quotes. And if you want that in the form of a motion, Carrie, do you suggest it? I would suggest a motion moving forward. They can get quotes or for the work that needs that you're suggesting needs to be
done. Mr. Chair, are are there any other options? There's no good option, Phil, for the future. If you if we I don't want to see this township road not being maintained anymore just in case this board were to change and then we fight
you guys to do because the land needs to have access to it or it loses value and it loses options on what can be done there. And this should have never been done in the first place and and Mr.
Chair, it's not a hard thing to to fix. This is easy to fix. Well, I'm I'm I I I'm completely concur with what you're saying on that point, but I would I'd like to protect our assets up there. We've got millions of dollars, but these
gates, I mean, people drive across around, they go out there, throw garbage, open the gates, and we everybody That's my concern, protecting the county's interest. And I and I think we can figure that that out. We'll do that. But right now, we have to Mr. Mr.
Chair, I think I think the other thing that's important for us to remember, as was stated by Detroit Township, is we're violating statute. We are violating stat. We're this this isn't just about what's right or what's protecting our
assets. We're we're in the wrong by getting that that road off. So, we need to take the gate down. Then, it's up to us to figure out what to do from here. And from here, I'll make a motion for environmental services to get quotes to
see what it would cost to gate access. Gate accesses. I'll second commissioners as a second. We have a motion in a second now. Do we have any discussion? Go ahead. I I was just going to offer the fact that because there is some public safety concern through the pollution
control side of things that I think we could be in agreement from the the people that are involved in this roadway for a little bit for safety wise allowed the gates to be built if you'd choose to do that and we can continue to work together for a couple months. I mean I don't want the gate down today kind of
mentality. I think in overall interest I think we could work through that as a group. Um, and just so you guys don't have your back against the wall for public safety issues if you decide to go with gating. So, Mr. Chair, will those by gating those couple roads that Barry
was pointing to, is that not you guys, I mean, amongst us, is that going to be enough? I know you talk about cameras at some of our facilities. But, but but we're you said you didn't want the gate open today, but you want it open? Well, we recognize that the township road is there and that uh the gate come down.
Yep. So I think we don't have a plan going forward though. I mean we don't but I think that that's what's if it took years for that to accomplish that wouldn't I don't think that wouldn't affect the township or I don't think it would affect you guys because our our keys and our agreement is still working
today. It's just the idea that uh it all stemmed from the fact that uh there is no recorded access on that agreement. So we also don't want to put this out a year. No, no, but I mean if it came to that that would not be the end of the world as far as we're concerned. Mhm.
You know, it's it needs to be taken care of, but it doesn't have to be taken care of next week. That's what we're saying. But I think we should set a date on when we're going to open it so things can be achieved by then. I'd like to have a plan. Kick that. Fair, Charlie. I'd like to have a plan in place from the
county's perspective before we open up the gates so we know so Steve doesn't get blindsided. And that's what I motion on the table. Okay. And that's and that's and that's what this motion is going to do. It's going to allow or Well, it's going to No, I don't need it.
So, we have a motion a second. Does anybody want to amend the motion? Charlie has a question. Yeah. If the gates aren't enough down the road in the future, you just end up fencing more of it to protect it. That's all. But maybe starting with gates would be a good You
might have to go down the slope and but certainly hopefully you don't have to gate. I don't like fencing. I just So I like fences. So So So we have a You like I want this recorded. He said he likes us fish and wildlife fencing. I
hate US fish and wild. So So we have a motion in a second. Does Does anybody would any of the motioners like to amend to have a date or do we want to work on that do that later? I think we have to wait until I think we have to wait till we find out get bids and figure out but we'll move it along.
Yeah, we'll move it along. We will. Thank you for your time today. Thank you. All right, so we have a motion to second. Any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Charlie might as well wait a minute. Do you have anything else? when there's a discussion on Pelican watershed building if you just want to wait just a minute. Are we next? Is that next? That's next. Yes. You All right. Yes. It was pulled. So I think Mr. Chair, the only thing on
this agreement if you look at description of property at the a and it's on the asis portion of it. It says um the bill of sale does not in does not include the sale of any real property titled to the real property where the property is located will remain with
vested in the seller. It's supposed to be buyer. It's supposed to be buyer. I mean what page is that on? 17 on page 17. Discussion about changing that. Maybe it didn't get changed by the time it got to you. Um maybe I changed. This is the the s the
bill of sale and it says on the bottom the bill of sale does not include the sale of any real property titled to the real property where the property is located will remain vested in seller. It should be buyer. It should vested in buyer. Good catch. Yeah. Yeah. We caught that before and then I mean
that I don't know if you had any in I mean that wasn't your intent. You I want to make sure that there's Pelican watershed has no interest in the property. That's my Yeah. P just Yeah. Yeah. We we had that discussion and yes, it does need to be changed. You're absolutely right. But put the wrong one in the packet. That's all I So, do we
need do we need a motion to change that or can we just allow them to change that word? That's a big deal. I think the motion needs to be the seller. If you're going to make the motion, it needs to be contingent on the chain, the modification to the buyer. Okay.
So, who wants to make that motion? With that, I'll make with that I'll make the motion. All right. Second motion by Barry, second by by Phil. Okay. Any more discussion? Just wanted to reiterate my Yeah. thoughts on it. Don't agree with that. All in favor signify by saying I.
I. Thanks, Charlie. Opposed? I. All right. Motion carries. Now you can do your roll call. Roll call. Okay. Roll call. Commission. I No. Yes. I Yes. Yes. All right. And just to note, if we do ever have a a meeting out there, um,
Commissioner will have to park on the highway, not I will gladly park on the highway. Parking and then walk the rest of the way. I'll walk the trail. Steve trolls. All right, Carrie, do you have any Did we vote? I
don't think Did we vote on it? Mhm. Oh, yeah. We did. Um, thank you, Mr. That is all I have. All right. So, next we have Cody from our EDA. You know, you're not too far behind schedule. No, we're pretty good. Oh,
we're going to speed up. Morning, Cody. Chairs up there. Morning, commissioners. Uh, in your packet, you have a summary of a request um for the allocation of funding, state
legislative aid that the county has received. uh and a summary of the project for it to be allocated for. Uh the request is just to get confirmation that this uh aid can be used for that project so we can proceed with an RFP um
based on that scope of work to get the final um the final cost to propose to the board for approval and then um proceed with that project. Um, in a nutshell, uh, this would be for a
property that, uh, we own. Um, it's about 30 years old. So, the primary concern is to the exterior of the building. You'll look at the pictures. And this is this is where the fire was. Remember that fire? No. No. No. This is
just flaking off. It's just needs help. Yeah. Again, just summarize that as it's one of our primary um rental properties, 12-unit complex, uh providing a very uh affordable um option for living in our community to
our tenants. And um would this would this increase the rental on it or would it? No. Okay. No, this would be uh again this has come up as a little bit of a um it stalled out a few conversations with some other housing projects and stuff
just because uh looking at a you know a county owned property um seeing some cosmetic concerns I guess. Um and again it's it's 30 years old. We're reaching the end of the life cycle on some of the stuff but we want to take care of that project. Uh, additionally, we just
replaced the roof on both the um apartment and the garage unit. So, now would be the time to do the rest of it. So, it's all in the same schedule moving forward. Um, and just have that property secured for the next 30 years hopefully. And um, internally everything's um,
pretty good. We take care of that stuff with uh, tenant moveouts, turnovers, and that sort of thing. Um, so right now that's our primary concern is the exterior. And again with the replacement of the roofs, uh that came out of our capital reserves which pretty much
drained that account. Um so we don't have much uh operating capital to do this project and that's where we requesting to source it from. Cody, what's Mr. Chair, Cody, what's going on with the MMCDC? They're your manager. So do they manage this redoing of all of
this? Yep. they they have a property site manager that takes care of the tenant stuff and then their maintenance crew that does uh you know the requested approved items. Um but this is again kind of one of those unique Yeah. scenarios that don't come up often
because you know it only happens when Yeah. Like you're seeing this 30 years later after it's built. Y um and uh Yeah. And this property we own. We just paid for. Yeah. We owe nothing on it. suffer debt on it. So, um, and it's a
very it's it's pro probably the property that we own that has the least amount of turnover. It's it's well very good there. So, I think I think we need to take care of the property and it looks
bad and we need to take care of it. It's a very expensive building. Mhm. Um, so it just it really just needs to be done. That's all. We don't have any we don't have any choice. So, our options are we take out a loan to do it or we we
utilize this aid and it and this is a a way that we can use the aid to um fix up that property. So, the EDA has recommended that we use the statewide affordable housing aid that we've gotten the last three years. It won't take up
the whole aid, but it will take up a good chunk of it. Mr. Chair, Commissioner Johnson, do you need a motion on this or do you want to make Yeah, I'll make a motion that that we allocate the statewide affordable housing to the EDA to use for the Maple Avenue. Is that what the
the motion should be? I will second. Go ahead, Phil. So, give Richard. All right. So, we got a motion by Eric, second by uh Richard. Do we have any more discussion? Mr. Sure. Um perhaps you want to on your I'm just wondering you want you're going to send out an RFP for bids as well on Yeah, we have the
RFP uh ready to go essentially. So I think we have to prove that at the EDA next week. Okay. The RFP. Mhm. Okay. And your mo did your motion and second include that as No, that was going to be Do we want and approved pending? Does
the RFP need to come here? Pending ADA approval. I I would suggest that you do it all in one and then you can discuss it pending so that we don't need to bring the RFP here before we send it out. That's correct. Pending the RFP approval. Just maybe be a easier I amend my motion.
Okay. To include that you Richard. Yeah. But we like Cody. So we have a motion and a second with an amendment. Do we have any more discussion? All right. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. All right. Motion carries. Thank you. Yes. Thanks, Cody. All right,
Cody. I just Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Cody. I was just going to jump back quickly to the reports and correspondence on the safety committee. Uh, one of the things that we did was developed an updated uh, incident reporting form. It's online uh, so it's accessible for um, you know, off-site
use and that sort of thing. But as an uh, commissioners, you know, the county or at different facilities attend a lot of different things. So, that would be something that you can access uh to fill out in the event that you uh you know have any near misses or or um you know
just on-site inc uh accidents or stuff like that to report. So, just felt that I would make that aware for you guys. Thank you, Cody. Thanks, Cody. And and thanks for doing a good job with that safety committee. Cody, my my comment was um this morning we had a
person on on um open form that had some comments and had some some about uh some section 8 vouchers and I I I think Carrie if you and Carrie want to made some that we should look into a little bit just to
just to make sure that Absolutely. So, um if you didn't concern or was it a Yeah. Well, just just you and Carrie can can follow do a follow up on those what it is. I'm not asking you report because I some of that stuff is sensitive information, but I certainly think you
we need to follow up on that. I agree. Do a followup. Okay. Yep. Thank you. Thanks, Cody. Thanks, Cody. Hi, Jim for Highway. We're only nine minutes behind, guys. I know. We're going to got to go fast. Jim, talk fast, Jim. We're behind,
believe it or not. All right. Morning commissioners. Uh I believe there's five items now for your consideration. First item is a bid award. This is for the uh districtwide uh safety edgeline striping project. We
are the lead on that project this year. Um encompassing 11 other counties or 11 counties total I mean. Uh but bids came in good. Um the low bidder Camco out of Dassel came in at 1.8 8 million and some odd dollars and we're recommending award
to them. This was 13% below the engineers estimate. So the 1.8 is for the district then not just the whole district. Correct. So do go ahead. I'll make that motion to approve this bid award. 2C lines 2C.
I'll second. Do we have a motion for 2C by Phil and second by Richard? Do we have any more discussion? Uh Jim, I have one question. So, if if we have something that comes in under bid, where does the money go that wasn't used? Does that go back into the general fund?
Uh, no. For this particular project, um, like all our safety projects this year, including the rumble strips and the lighting project, um, actually the rumble stripe project had 100% funding from federal funds, and we had excess money. They held those in
case our bids on the lighting project went over the estimate. They didn't. they came in under. Uh so that extra money too was pulled together and still saved and it'll be used towards this. This project wasn't fully funded at 90%.
I believe it will be now because they'll move those monies over that we saved on our other two projects, but we are responsible for 10% of this. What about like uh like the highway 7 project came in. Now we resp where would that money have flowed? Was
that county state aid highway funds or does it only come if you use it or does it is it in your account? It's it's our account. It's uh we're only using state aid funds now or our sales tax monies to fund our road projects. So when bid
comes under, we just don't spend it. So that makes more money available for the next year or whatever as we do our budgets each year. So how is that recorded? Like is that do we know what number we carry forward in highway? Like half a million dollars is carried
forward from projects that we were under budget. Do we know that? Well, realizing like state aid funds aren't encumbered until the project is awarded. Uh so those funds are sitting in in our state aid account at MIDOT and we make payment requests, you know, when we award our
projects. So that's not even at the county yet. That's at No, no, it's not part of our levy or included in our budget. um per se. So those are still bank there for us to use. Those are allocated. Yes. For us being held at a different place. Correct. And you can go
negative on those. You can go negative. Motion in a second. If your projects go over then you can borrow against a future aotment and stuff like that. So which we have done in the past. All right. So we have a motion, a second. Um all in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion carries.
Before we had the sales tax funding available, we were at near maximum borrowing. I mean, there was times when we were borrowed in for the next year. Yep. And that actually had some purpose also because there was some programs
that we did that actually for the uh the building um the new public works building our highway building that we took an advance a whole year's advance to pay part of the funding of that building and through um you know those
advances um and good bid prices and that we caught up rather quickly. I believe it was within 3 years. So we're we're even now again. But that 4.5 million that we borrowed against it in advance, one
thing you look at it, that was essentially zero interest dollars for us. Mhm. So that was kind of huge. So thank you, Jim. Yeah, thanks. Go ahead. All right. Next item. Um we're requesting uh to try a new product on
our roads. Um it's a alternative to seal coat. It's called the product is called Reclamite. It's an asphalt rejuvenator. It essentially does similar things in a different fashion to preserve the road surface road. Um we're looking on using
this on some roads in town here. West Lake Drive, uh Highland Drive, uh Richwood Road within town here, and our parking lot at the new public works building. Um, we think it's probably would be a little better product because it's a little bit cleaner. It doesn't
have the loose rock and stuff like that. Uh, we tried a similar product uh uh back a few years up on County 14 which was uh called a replay product which is a soybean based product. This is more of a petroleum and and different products
blended that rejuvenates and uh uh makes the asphalt more resilient, therefore lasting longer. Um so it's price on this is very similar to um or very close to what we pay for our seal co doing it internally at
approximately $1.15 a square yard. Uh we're looking at uh those projects with an estimated cost, you know, maybe 95,000 or less. We're hoping. Um and we'd like to try that project. The soybased product is still expensive. Yeah. Didn't work real well either. Very
good. Well, it's the soybean product has been working well, but um it we haven't just noticed anything different. So, and it's only two years old, so it's kind of hard to tell. But um yeah, that was a little bit more expensive that $2 a square yard. I'll move to approve the
reclamite test project here with this new I'll second. So we have a motion by Phil and a second by Richard. Do we have any discussion? Okay. All in favor favor signify by saying I. I. I. Motion carries. All right, Jim. Next item. Uh we're
looking at uh adding a special overweight permit to our permit permitting system and permitting policy. Uh this is allowed through state statutes uh to use on vehicles hauling construction materials like gravel and asphalt or construction equipment to and
from projects. Um this would provide benefit to our projects. you know, if a contractor could haul um it essentially allows uh the vehicle to go over weight of the maximum limit by adding more axles. It doesn't uh exceed the axle
limit weights uh in state statute. So, if you have a six axle trailer, you can increase the uh gross vehicle weight to 90,000 lbs or from 90 to 99,000, I'm sorry. Or to 90
to 90 90 to 99. 99. Yep. Or if you have a seven, you can go up to uh 97. 97. Yep. So, Richard and I thought that this was going to wear out our roads faster. It's not. They're just providing more axles that Phil or I did. Sorry,
Richard. I've got 10 axles on. So, it really and it's not during, you know, when the frost is coming under the ground. None of that, Mr. and it doesn't apply to load restricted bridges or roads. Allow highway department begin using the special overweight annual permit in compliance with Minnesota
statute 169.869. I'll second. So, a motion by Barry and a second by Phil. Do we have any further discussion? All right. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Carries. Mr. Chair, that did also include the the
fees and the application permit itself. Correct. Yep. And those fees are spelled out as well. Okay. Yep. Uh next item um is the uh kind of the our annual report, the distribution to you and the for your review and
acceptance. Um essentially this is another item required under state statutes that uh where we report annually all the expenses and projects and such and maintenance work that we do in the city or in the county of Becker
here. Um last year um kind of the report is laid out the first few pages provide summaries and then the last pages or the rest of the book provides a detail on those expenditures. But, uh, we had a big year. Again, last year we had, uh,
essentially about $12 million of, uh, construction work and, uh, $3.5 million of maintenance work, uh, broken out in all these different areas. And, but, uh, our accountant has to go through this annually and puts a lot of effort into this. This is one big part of her job
that she does in the spring here. So, um, I guess no formal action required on this. um just here if you had questions or if you have any questions anytime during the year, you can kind of refer to this or call me and I can, you know, pull this up quickly for you on expenses
on our roads or projects and you can even look back and see what we paid for all our equipment in the past 10 years or so and you can see how those prices have increased on those our plow trucks over the years and that and know Jim this is in our packet and we can you know the whole thing. Um could you send
this in a separate PDF though so we can save it you know spec just this because otherwise we'll have to try to remember the date that was presented you can send it to yeah just send it to us so we can save it you know in that format but um this a I mean I've been here many years
and this is a huge huge undertaking for the the I mean and it has to be done to to um be in compliance with state and federal funding. So this is and it's um not an easy task. So, thank you to to Angela who kind of spearheaded this in
your department, I'm assuming, and uh and Brian and Jonah and Jim for their time put in it. It's um and you can dissect any project or or just about everything in through this document. So, Jim, in in in large numbers, like I see
what we get for the Becker County sales tax. I see what our allocation is from the county, what what taxpayers pay about 2.4 million. The rest of our road, you said we had a TW, we spent about 12 million last year. The rest of that money comes from county, state aid,
highway funds. It comes from state aid, highway funds. Uh sometimes we have federal aid funds or grant funds we apply for and are successful on. And uh the sales tax monies about three and a half. Yep. Yep.
Uh some of them are cooperative agreements. You know, if we have joint projects with the city, you know, those projects, you know, they're partially funded by them or, you know, their portion of the project. So, we kind of capture all that stuff in here. Okay.
All right. Anybody else have any questions for Jim about the uh highway annual report? All right, Jim, you have one more item. Do we make a motion to accept the No, we don't need to. I don't think we do. We do. Do we need to make have a motion to ac? I don't I don't think so.
Uh finally, um we're requesting um we have started negotiating a change order on the lake park project. what we asked the contractor uh uh some pricing on in that project. Uh this we're doing a
milling overlay project throughout the city and side or yeah city of Lake Park on Highway 7 and on County Road 80 and also doing sidewalk and ADA work. Uh our bids came in very reasonable. Uh so we
asked about uh doing some upgrades as far as the pavement is concerned north of the bridge going all the way up to um the intersection with seven and nine at the north edge of the the city there. Uh the pavement is a little bit more
distressed. Uh so we thought we would like to see what it would cost to reclaim that road instead of just do a 2-in mill overlay. Uh that's deep deep deep yeah deeper remove all the pavement essentially blend it in the base uh that
provides a better uh product and a last longing fix. Um our first rounds of negotiations with them are we got some pricing that was a little bit higher than we expected. Uh we want to continue negotiating with them to see if we can
get that down where it be reasonable. right now. Uh the price is about $250,000 increase to the contract to reclaim that. We were hoping to be, you know, under $200,000 on that. Uh so we'd like to get permission to continue that and
if we could um come to agreement on that with them. Um we would like to be authorized to do that uh through a change order. Our change order policy requires anything over $100,000 on construction projects to be approved by
the board. Um, so you, Mr. Chair, you you want a motion to authorize the highway committee to negotiate a change order change order up to 200,000 up to about Yeah. 200 to 225. Okay. I think uh
cuz if you look at it um you know $250,000 this fix would be good for 30 years but uh $250,000 buys probably 2 million overlays. So I mean we could have the same results of doing nothing right now. I don't think we put a price on I think
highway committee authorized highway committee to negotiate this change to negotiate this change order. So is that is that your motion? Yeah I I'm just looking at carry. Do you think we need to put it out? We acknowledge the general amount say up to and and so
we'll say up to 225. We I agree if if we go up to 225 we throw our hand out there. I don't I mean obviously you can watch I I just think you we acknowledge that the change order for this and and we will and we'll come back for um or do
you want to authorize the highway committee to I would authorize the highway committee to negotiate to to to negotiate the change order and come back to ratify it at the board. So do you have that that's your motion and it can
be signed authorizing signature but ratify it afterwards. So yes, that's a motion. Okay. Do we have a second? I'll second. Okay. So we have a motion by Barry, second by Richard. Do we have any more discussion? Mr. Chair, Jim, when we had talked about this at highway,
we were talking about a number, but we thought it would come in underneath that number, I thought. Correct. Yeah, we didn't have the numbers at that time. Um, so I mean the next question is Barry's question all the time. Is it in budget? Yes, we have like I said the pricing on
that we had estimated that project you know to be over $2 million. So there is state aid funds available to make up this difference um or to pay for this in improvement or increased uh work. There are state aid funds yes dedicated to us
at our county to pay for this. So we would not be over budget on this. No. Okay. All right. We have a motion second. I I just want to clarify then if if Jim feels the price comes in unreasonable that we don't that we don't have to do this. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
This is for you to negotiate. Yeah. Because not doing it we will still it will still be or it'll still be a nice project or to change or to change the scope of the reclaim. maybe not do as extensive but that right at Main Street where the business I mean not that
there's any businesses left to to the extent but that is some real deep cracks by the post office really tough so I mean you can change the scope of the total if it's as long as a reduction not a Y all right so do we have any more discussion all right we
have a motion a second so all in favor signify by saying I I opposed all motion carries thank you thanks Jim thanks Jim thanks Jim Steve Morning Mr. Chair, board members piggy
uh basically got a capital expenditure request for some containers for source separate organics recycling program. First request is to approve us to spend up to $3,8160 to buy small containers that will be given out to the public and these will
be paid for with grant funds. So the request is to allow us to buy this from Orbus Corporation. I think we can do the two requests together, can't we? I think so. If you want to. Yeah. should be that and then
also spending3 $38,324. Uh that's going to be we're going to purchase containers from the toter corporation. Dakota paper companies are their distributor. So it's basically these are tot uh style containers or that's the manufacturer. So and Steve,
these are all these are included within the grant dollars that we got. Yep. This is all part of the plan to I will uh can I do both of those at the same time? Do them both at the same time. I I would uh they got numbers on Yep. 3801. The first one is motion approving.
First one is 3801.60 and the second one is 38324. Yes, I will make that motion. Okay. So, we have a motion by Phil. I'll second and second by Richard. Do we have any more discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying I.
I. All right. Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks, Steve. Um, does anybody need a break or let's finish up? This shouldn't take long. All right. Well, cannabis. Hey, the word cannabis probably will take a long time. Good
morning, Mr. Chair, commissioners. Um, just have discussion today on a joint powers agreement between uh us and Hideland Township. Um, since cannabis has um, I guess started within the
county, H Highleand has had significant interest in cannabis itself. Um, and as you guys are aware, we have a joint powers agreement with six other townships right now for subdivision control. This agreement would be similar. Um we would handle the
application process, do all the notifications, um hold the public hearing and the recommendation would be given to Hidoland. Um so the application fee would remain with us. Um staff would handle all the paperwork, but ultimately
the decision would be made by them and the public hearing would still be at the plan planning commission. Yes. And then and then it goes to Idolan. Yep. exactly similar to how we would handle a plat and those other six townships I mentioned or something of that nature. So there wouldn't be any administrative
powers um like some other joint powers we have. Um but so I suggested this um to them and then at their last meeting um they made a motion to um propose this to us. Um, so if you are have an
appetite for it, I would suggest that they um, retain their own attorney. Um, and I would recommend the same individual who created those last JPA for us um, already has a template. Um, and then we would bring that back to you for consideration.
I'm Yeah, I'm good with that. Yeah. Yeah. The only I don't see this happening, but we have to give out so many I mean by statute. So if these all these townships don't want it, I mean, if every township
came in, we still have to give out. So I don't think we're going to get to that point, but you you see that if every every township says, "No, we don't want it." All of a sudden, we have to give three out. That's for retail. Retail. Yeah. Isn't this retail? I mean, is this all cannabis retail growing? All Yeah.
It's only retail though that we have to retail. We have to Yeah. And the city counts, too. So, Right. But they're they're so I think maybe that might I think you just asterisk saying well I think we have to we have to also figure out what
is it the first three that meet like that we h we have to I don't know how that works. I I don't I I don't I think we in our mort in our ordinance we never we're not going to limit any. We decided not to. Yes, we're not going to limit any, but if we're required to have at
least three, we have we're required to approve at least three. If we have nobody come, we then you don't have we don't have to. Yeah. But what if we have three and we deny one? What would we deny one unless we have other reason?
Good reason. Yes. Yes. Yes. And and and the city the city of the city of Detroit Lakes has made their own or ordinance for it. So cap cap they have they they don't have a cap they have the way they have it set up there's a cap but it's not a number cap. So all three of them
could be in the city of Detroit that and we would not and we don't approve those. Right. Correct. So that would cover us then. So I think in the joint power agreement we don't have a limit. No we don't have a limit but we have to have a minimum but it's noted that.
So if someone applies to us we would have attorney language unless we had they could put it in there. Correct. Correct. So we what you but what I'm saying is if the city has three that they approve then we have let our we we've reached our minimum in the county that it makes no difference. So if we
don't have a restriction on them correct if we don't state that we have a restriction we have to authorize everyone that that complies with the rules unless we have a legit Yeah. Unless you have a legitimate reason. Yeah. So if you want to limit it to three you'd have to have an ordinance limiting it to the three which we didn't do. Which we did not do. So then really
we're not we're not it really just is about the land use and making sure that it's they correct appropriate. We don't have so we don't probably worry about the minimum because we we don't have a
limit. The minimum came to if you're going to have an ordinance limiting them limiting them you have to have at least minimum number. Yes. So maybe it's not a it's probably not it's a non non issue. But if every if the city of Detroit Lakes says they're not going to have it
and every township joins up and says they're not going to have it, then we have to come to some figure out change something then couldn't we? Yeah. Well, I think you want to note that with all these agreements that if if in the case that you know by law we have to allow three
and if if if every township in every city deny everything, the county still has to allow three at some. Now, I don't think we're going to get to that point because I think enough townships are going to say whatever. And yeah, we have six townships now that or five was
agreement, one we're working on it and in one city. So I mean I we have five other townships that we're working on an agreement with. No, we you were talking about the extra territorial with those have a joint powers not for cannabis
just for subdivision control. Um but the agreement would be similar to that and there definitely would be a clause in there for termination for I mean almost any reason, right? um it could be at your discretion that you decide we just have to notify him within so many days
and say we're we're pulling out of this agreement. Did the township come to the county and want this? Mr. Hall's here. He's Yeah, we've had some discussion in the past um with them and I I you know again they've been involved since basically day one since
cannabis got on the forefront. I just suggested to them, you know, the state made it very clear that they wanted townships to make a decision on delegating this, right? And a lot of the townships obviously aren't probably that apt to take on
zoning. So, I just suggested, hey, we have to do this regardless if they they're just making the decision. So, if the applicant comes to our office, we have to do that paperwork, we have to do the notifications. Um, this is just allowing them basic. I mean, it's
allowing them to make the decision, but we're handling a lot of the work on their behalf. You would be anyway turn it over to you. Why the joint powers doesn't it doesn't make sense to me. Well, they want to be able to say no. Well, right. And they don't want to they don't want to take it on themselves. Um,
so there's where the joint powers is, but 38 other townships turned it over to the county so they didn't have to take it over themselves, right? But with this suggestion, they may come back and do this exact same thing. It's just like the subdivision control. Those six townships would have never did that unless the county said, "We'll handle
the leg work. You make the decision." So that's the exact same thing we're doing or suggesting. Mr. Chair and commissioners, Roger Wbecker County Association, for the record, uh, if the power materializes, the joint power thing materializes, I
think it just sets the president or the other ones. whatever they may do. There might, like Barry said, there might be just very few that are interested, but uh I think it's something that stills got to maintain with the planning and zoning basically. I I don't I I think
it's a good thing. I think townships should have their say. So, if they don't want anything in their township, every township should do do the same thing with this. I think then they will have finals. Yep. And I'm proud of that. Although at the end of the day, we have
to allow there has to be three in the county. I mean, so exactly. I kind of realize that and I don't know where we're at. Did the other two that were left get their uh uh resolution in yet or they're sitting on a
don't know but I'll check on Yeah, there's a couple. I I do think Ottoman has some interest in retaining that power and once they probably are aware of this situation they might want to do something similar. They I I think
they've not given it to you on purpose. That's probably Roger. Would you report this to the townships this option if as we move forward? Yes. Yeah. That's why I've kind of kept in touch a little bit. There ain't much I can do, but it's to inform them and I think it sets the
president because he's got the job, Kyle's got the job of bringing this through and having you guys the final say. So, thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Roger. So, I just have two questions. One, do they follow the county's or
cannabis ordinance or they have their own they follow ours? And two, who takes on the liability? If a uh somebody believes that that we made a wrong they made a wrong decision, do they then take the township
to court or the I would say the county or the township the township. Okay. So like if but if we made a mistake mailing or something notifying then that liability would be on us but the decision- making would be their body. I'm I'm gonna Okay. Uh, I mean, I'll
double check on that, but Okay. So, do we need a a motion or do we just need to I mean, we we're not approving the agreement yet, right? We're just just discussion. Yep. Okay. Okay. I think we move forward with it. Yeah. Yeah. I
think so, too. I'll try and convince Lake Ununice to do the same for mining if you don't mind. That would be great. Um, just a little FYI there. We're going to have So, I haven't The petition's been filed. Um, but the EQB, which is
Environmental Quality Board, has to verify that it is complete and 100%. Once they give it to us, we have 15 days to make a decision on it. Um, we do have an extension period there, which would allow us up to 30 days, which I probably anticipate undoing.
So from 5 days of yesterday plus 30. So 35 days um essentially is when you'll probably see that. All right. Okay. Um then we make a decision on that and then if depending
upon that decision then the then the application starts up again. Correct. Right. So we make a decision on whether or not the DAW is required or if we require an EAW or not. Yes. Gotcha.
And who who decides that? We who decides what? Who decides if a EAW is We do. We do. Yeah. So, you present you do the fact I mean the fact the information and then we decide, right? So, I'll hold a tech panel meeting. Um, and I forgot you
guys were in board of equalization last night, so I did call three of you. Um, well, this was a fun meeting. Well, we're only here for a while. I mean, Right. So obviously I can only have two of you at that tech panel meeting unless we posted it. Um Phil does have some
interest in this. So I was going to ask if you were okay obvious district. So it would be them too and then um we'll have soil and water DNR MPCA um those type of folks in there and then they'll make a recommendation obviously back to you. Okay. Okay.
Kyle, one more issue. Uh June uh no or June 30th we're having a meeting. Are you going to have an agenda for that? Yeah. For the zoning ordinance. Okay. Yeah. All right. You'll send that out to us before. Okay. All right. Anything else for Kyle? Do we have anything else for the good of
the order? I have one. Uh, so do you guys get these kind of things in the mail like flyers and stuff? Thanks, Kyle. This one is for land use and I don't know what the policy is. Barry, maybe you can This is navigating some land use put on
by MCIT. Mhm. Yeah. Are we able to go to these things or do we need to go? I don't know. I I find that some things I go to are worthless and some things I go to I really pick some things up and I don't know which are which. Is that a virtual one or an inerson one? It's an inerson
one. I just go down to the day and come back. It's uh those I mean I think any travel any overnight lodging I think you would want unless it's normal you just bring it. I mean, if you want to go just bring the board and MCIT and AMC, are
you on the MC? Are you on the Who's on the MC? I I am. I'm not actually. I just I would say if it's I think I did get one of these seminar. So, how what's the process? I just have to come and ask and if you guys think it's legit then I go. You can do it. Yeah, we Carrie could probably develop a
policy on on those. And I don't know. Historically, that's what we've done. I think yeah, we just said, hey, I think you ask Carrie's advice and and move forward. If if it was an MCIT meeting critical to what Dave's on the committee, I think that's just you just
have Carrie go through Carrie and you know, run it by her first. Well, this is a land use training. This isn't critical. None of this is critical. Just But it's educational. And I think I could I'm saying if Dave's on MCIT and they have a seminar relating to their, you know, something pertinent that he
feels is pertinent to him being on that committee. I think that Carrie has I mean that's each individual can and if she's going to say you know this is one we should just go to board and get permission to attend. If you if you want a pdeium and it paid for, I think you come to the full board, go through
Carrie, and if she says, I think the full board should weigh in. We're gonna probably we're going to probably support any I would assume any of our partners any of those. I mean, especially being on the planning commission. Yeah, I'm
not on MCIT. I'm not, but I thought that's all but MCIT is our agency. The better the more contacts that you have. I mean at EMC at MM at MCIT MRC. Okay. So, this is some land use stuff. I'm not
on either of the boards, but I would consider going. I'll authorize if if chairman or commissioner Hansen wants to attend the MCIT land use meeting uh to cover and expenses. So, so we have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. So, we have any
discussion? Okay. All All in favor signify by saying I. I. I will not overnight. All right, motion carries. You can are free to go. Okay, and you get paid. Do we have anything else for the good of the order? All right, we are adjourned.
Just over two hours. I'll tell you what, we're coming around. We are. I can handle that. kill you. I