Um, this meeting is being held in accordance with the open public meetings act. Notice has been provided to the public through the municipal calendar that is publicly available on the belar.com website and in the coar. I everyone should have received the minutes from July. Can we have a motion
to accept the minutes from July? >> Motion accept. >> Okay. I don't I don't motion all minutes. I'll second I don't technically have a vote. I believe so. Okay. >> Um >> um >> Okay.
>> So, the first item on the agenda was just to review for everybody's information about the we have current grants that we're running. What is the green team grant which was the $2,000 grant we got last year. Um and that included um money for handouts for
literature for a speaker for um some social media content. And so we hired someone part-time to do some social media for us and um that's we're coming to the end on that grant. We got a six-month extension and so we're coming up to the point where we have to do some
kind of a report to sustainable Jersey. Um secondly, we were also were receiving a $10,000 electric landscaping grant which the purpose of that is to mainly purchase equipment from DPW. And also >> where's that from?
>> It's from the state. It's a electric landscaping grant and it offers us um about $7,500 for equipment and high equipment and also um some money for training sessions. So we talked about
contracting with Richard McCoy from the American Zone Alliance to provide a workshop for DBW. So it's really up to Billy Mus at this point. I sent him the budget information. He has the details about it. if he needs any, I'm happy to to assist him, but it's really his call
about, you know, when he wants to schedule something or what kind of equipment they want to purchase. We did have a vendor. I last year, the first time we applied, >> uh, Rich McCoy actually came to Belmore and sat down with Mr. Musau and talked about what this would look like and we
got quotes from vendors. So, there are vendors quotes available for him. >> So, great. When you guys go through that, is there any equipment that seems to people really buy into right away? Is there like when is it leaf blowers? Is it one mowers? Is it uh
>> Well, what we talked about, what they came up with was leaf blowers and trimmers and uh chargers, extra batteries. >> Hi. >> We just started like a couple weeks ago. We're just talking about the grants. Um >> I think that's why we want to sit down with them is to figure out what's
needed. They may have they may be looking some of that already. So, this old >> Yeah. So, Billy worked on the list. So, he had a list and that's what we put onto the grant. So, it should be We didn't put any lawn mowers on there. It was just some mowers and trimmers >> and chargers. Maybe we should get them a
little electric scooter. >> Well, next time we fly. Um, >> which would fall under the electric vehicle new ordinance. >> It would. Uh, next on the list is just to review. We have as we purchase all this
literature, we wanted to make an effort and we said we put in the grant to distribute it. So, I've been distributing it here at the library and over at the burough hall. >> Um, but there may be events in town where we can we'll hand things out, maybe have a table. Um, we talked about
the Belar Pro that's in September. The Belar 5, I think it's the end of August. Um, also the San Jane Festival. It's in October. >> September 13th, I think. >> Do we have to ask for a table? >> Yes. >> Who do we ask? >> Jenna. Jenna Van Nest.
>> I'm happy to sit at a table. So, >> great. >> We're happy to do that. >> I'm ready. >> Unfortunately, one of the food. >> Unfortunately, again, the same weekend here now. >> Every single time. >> As long as I get my canoli eating contest. >> There you go. >> As long as as long as I've been there,
I'm good. I think last time you were maybe going to go to the surf shop and check out the Belmont Pro. Did you have a chance to do that yet? >> If you think of it. Yeah, just >> I'm actually bringing my son for a new uh board I think tomorrow so I can try and talk to them while
>> Yeah, we just want like I know they have vendors down there anyway and just want to take a seat at the table and just give out information. >> That's a wonderful idea. >> Hopefully the servers will be open to our pitch just a good audience. >> Yeah. Yeah. um as opposed to the St.
Patrick's Day parade which is a different >> you and San Janeiro might be different too. >> Yeah. Well, you know, good food. Definitely good food for San Janeiro. >> Um okay, so I wrote you down for San Janeiro. We'll talk to Jenna and and
you're going to talk to whoever over at this shop and if there's anything else anybody can think of places in town where you see stuff being given out. I don't know where, but there may be some maybe nurtured by nature. So yesterday I started the Yeah. Nourished by Nature probably would be willing to do that.
>> Yeah. >> Uh Lake Ko started a farmers market. >> That's right. >> Yesterday was the third week I was there um selling money, but I could put stuff on my table. >> Oh, that'd be great. I have it in my truck anytime. I'll just drop it off for
you. That'd be great. >> We got it from the county and they gave us a lot. >> We have a lot of counties. >> He's very nice. He did it. But he did. >> Do we have it in the um in the Facebook. >> Yeah, >> they have like a sort of a brochure stand. So, if you look in there, we can see the native plants is in there and
the plastics and there was something about environmental commissions um and um gas power leaf blowers. Those are the different things. >> It's every Wednesday from 3 to 8. >> Okay, great. >> Where is it? >> Is it on the lake? >> Top of the lake right there. Right
across from Park. >> Okay. >> They have really nice furnace vendor there. They had a lot of good furnace. Yeah, it was great. >> Um, Sha Tree, I I know we met with them >> um and we talked about trying to work
together and I know that Gary had a further conversation. I think you did as well with Jim. >> Sure. >> About the thorny locust. So, >> we could just kind of share the thought about what we want to do next about that. >> What we have to do is lake committees agree to it. If our if the environmental
committee agrees to it, >> bring it here. Jim Ray agrees and understands me wants to bring it before the full shade tree commission >> and they'll do that and then um then we'll as soon as that happens it probably midseptember end of September we can um I volunteered Lyn and myself
to go but any wants to go just take a bunch of lockers and do a lot. >> Who was Yes. Who was Linda? >> Linda is someone from the shade tree commission who she was the person I did all the >> on the shade tree commission. She was she was one who I did all the uh trimming a year and a half ago before
the uh >> before the cleanup. So she told she and I are trained from when we had to go to the shade tree conferences and things like that. So she said she'd be happy. It's up to Billy. >> He's got he's waiting as soon as I think as soon as Jim says he'll take a look.
Then he'll tell us if he wants us to help him or not or he'll just do it. >> So when is Jim going to make that decision? Their first meeting is in um yeah this same but the same day as ours in September. >> Is it tonight? >> No, they're off in August. >> So are we are we all okay with that
recommendation to have it? So I think what they're going to do is offer to trim back the trees that are starting to grow and um whether or not DPW wants just do it themselves or whether the volunteers help out. >> That's really if you you know I'll just
if we all agree then I'll just Pop Jim another note when I see him. So, all agreement? >> All right. >> And it's going to be for uh trimming and pruning the regular trees, too, because there's a lot of shooters and uh some dead branches that could, you know, come
down and I think, you know, we thinning out those honey locusts and what they had done is they had one of their experts from their team go around and and they agreed they're a nuisance tree where they are and they just got to go. So if people complain, we have an
answer, which is that we're planning in the fall to >> cut back the nuisance trees in a mindful way with people that are trained. >> So um next is the Silver Lake Committee. So, we met on Monday
>> um and we reviewed the US Army Corps um is in the process of doing a year-long study of the lake and with the goal of recommending several options down about what they think could be done for the health of
the lake um and the management of the lake. So, right now they're in information gathering phase. So we shared with them all of the um information on share drive that we had um about Silver Lake history data, you
know, data analysis, um other expert analysis in Mammoth County, um kind of like the existing science of it as best we knew from what we gathered together. So they have all that. Um Nick um
Valente, he was a former member of the commission. He offered he's a coastal engineer. He works for New Jersey Transit and he offered from the engineering side to reach out to Kier which is the engineering firm that took over from
>> Bzil. Thank you who were the ones who worked on the link. So they had like a file that we had been trying to get for the town. So he >> he posted it I thought on the on the site the collier stuff. >> He's still looking for more stuff. Um I you know he's got the vocabulary. I
don't have it. It's like hydraological >> stuff. >> Um, so he's asking and they said they would provide it to the town. So, >> and I think it's really important because if he could pull that off, >> uh, Bertzell had done a restoration plan for our lake. I don't know in the '9s or
80s maybe, >> and it was in one of the appendix of one of the docs I could, but couldn't get the appendix. So, it'd be nice if we had something like to look back on and compare to what um, the Army Corps does, too. Yeah, he's working on it. So, whatever he can get for us, we'll put it
in the share drive for everybody to see, but also send it to the engineers in the Army Corps to add to their database that they're reviewing for their planning process. I talked to them maybe a week ago and they said in another week or two, they expect to get back to us again about status on what they're doing. So,
I'll pursue it with them if we haven't heard anything. Um, the other thing that Nick was reaching out was for um we walked over where that pipe is out to the ocean. And he um we kind of looked to see what vendors the burrow had used
in the past to clean out the pipes and there was a vendor Oswald is the name of the company and they had used them in the past. >> You you and I found Oswald. >> Yes. So Nick reached out to Oswald and they provided a quote which I sent to Billy and to Kate so that we can if the
burrow decides they want to do some exploration now >> and to get a better look at what's in there, it's only going to help us have a better plan and more information we can really get because we tried to get nail down exactly what the condition is and without looking and digging it's you
know it's indeterminate. So this is a way and the the army corp It requires an incind match. So the borrow is responsible to do some part of something, you know, and in kind is in kind, but it could also be some amount that they spent or something like this.
That would >> be our part of it. >> Is it sorry, Billy mentioned that um we need to give the extra books. Do we have to do that or do that? >> That's that's that's the Yeah, he said he has other vendors. >> Yeah. So, I did go back and I was
looking again at the town records and it looks like in 1949 they did replace the original one with a cast iron. And does that look that looks like the cast iron pipe that goes into it? >> Yeah, it's cast it looks cast iron. So, that's probably the pipe going all the
way up to that 15 linear feet of concrete reinforced pipe that they replaced after Sandy. So, it'll be interesting to see, you know, what the what that condition ac going all the way back because that at least hopefully it's uh not been sitting in seawater and
and breaking down, you know, since we haven't used it that much >> that whatever is exposed in the on the ocean side is completely buried in sand. >> It's barely shown. >> Yeah. >> Um and the other part of just for your
information if you're not already aware is we have what they call an earmark, which is like in the our congressman, Congressman Smith and the senators that from New Jersey, they have an opportunity to add a project like a community project to the federal budget.
So, when they um we've been working with the congressman's office for a while and they we did this last year with them, we did it again this year with them. Uh Senator Kim who's best friend of um he also had a portal where he
requested constituents to submit. So we submitted to him. Um Senator Booker at some point also did the same. So they we submitted to all of them. So my understanding is that the the House side passed theirs over to the Senate. So it
already remained. So it's in there and now the Senate has to pass the budget which is another amount of time when they do that. So we'll see if it makes it through. Um but right now on the on the congressman side it's a million dollars in there for some like
restoration. So fingers crossed. Um and we shall see. But if if the money comes through way we kind I think how I understand it as we develop this plan of what we are recommended to do we could then get some funds to support actually doing some of
what's in the plan which would be great because like was said at the you know the trolley meeting that they had it's way more than any one town can pay for any of these lakes. It's a it's not kind of budget item that a small town has to draw on. So everybody and all across up
and down the coast, different municipalities have sought funding from different sources and we continue to do that as well. So that's our best shot right now. We'll see what happens over the next month or two. >> Okay. when you were uh when you were in
Congress during this process, um is it worthwhile to get in contact with Booker and Kim, Senators Booker and Kim, and say, "Hey, when this appropriation goes through," because they did, both of them did put in in their appropriations processes just didn't make it through
and we made it through. >> Imagine that with Republican Congress you have, you know, the year before was. So, is there does they does that help having them say that they want to keep it in there or is it just doesn't matter given how things work? >> Oh, I think it matters. I think it I
mean it's certainly never going to detract from anything. >> Good. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm a big fan of speaking up alter. >> Well, I I do have to say that that event that you coordinated with the senator's office was awesome. Thank you. >> It really was.
>> It was a lot of work. It was very It seemed like there was short notice for everything. a lot of coordination, a lot of different towns, a lot of mayors, a lot of, you know, political, I guess, agendas and whatnot. But regardless, it was for a good cause and it came out
really nicely. So, we >> it was very big lift and I'll tell you like the focus on the news side was a lot about like flooding and emergency management, but we did also discuss a lot of very core environmental issues. And the nice thing about it was that
obviously we were trying to um you know get Senator Bim educated on these topics and hopefully aligned with us on them but also it was an incredible opportunity to discuss how the towns could all work together.
>> Um what are projects that we could all fund jointly? what are um ways to work together and different from from peace management to dredging. Um, and it's always interesting and we see it at Colona, but it gets reinforced here. Uh,
to see other towns kind of going through this process, maybe a little bit a couple steps ahead of us, a couple steps behind us, but we're all kind of starting to converge into this very similar viewpoint of addressing water quality, addressing the water. Um, help me add, you always know what I'm trying to say.
>> The map with Wait, >> the water. >> Thank you. The water shed. because of water. Sounds like um the watershed, you know, a lot of this is a watershed issue too and getting everyone uh coordinated and thinking about that. Um and I
mentioned this um at the Harbor Commission meeting the other night, but actually I'll be attending the Shark River cleanup meeting uh next week, which is Wall, Neptune, um Avon Bradley, and now Belmar to talk about dredging and Shark River and things like that.
and I believe the county has been involved in that group as well. So, um along with the literal society and the Sharp River um coalition. So, uh the right people are in the room to actually try and get something done which is great. >> So, a question when you say working
across the towns, is that something that the environmental commission should be doing with one another or is this something that the BAS do or is this something council members do? How who actually does the work for someone to >> I can just I can just throw something out. In the past
>> 10 20 years ago and you may know this better than I do. I'm like going through historical records. There was once something like a commission of commissions there was like a representatives from each of the environmental commissions >> or similar. There was like a Shark River environmental round table. It wasn't the
mayors. It was people like us getting together across all of them. I have been interested in that and I reached out to the Neptune's environmental commission is in a hyper state of existing and not existing right now but there's somebody associated with them I'm trying to meet
with and I'm friends with the chair of the wall environmental commission to try to get some momentum there I think all the momentum right now are with the municipal mayors and council people meeting but I think following in the tales of that it would be a good idea not just for any one topic but for all sorts of things
like we have so many common issues and concerns with the other towns in the Shark River wershed that it would make sense to have some kind of like doesn't need to be formal, but like a quarterly meeting, take one of us and we all go together and we all talk about sustainable gardening. We all talk about
ways that we can get the town more involved in cleanups and trying to get our environmental commissions to use electric blowers. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't have to do with the wershed we can collaborate on and that does have to do with the waterhed we can collaborate on. But I think coming out
of this next meeting with the mayors and if there's going to be one or two like real big projects that are going to take a long time to come to fruition. maybe some kind of situation where the mayors and council
people meet once in a while for like big ticket stuff, but then like it like we're like the next level down that the follow through and updates and that kind of stuff that we talk about with the grants for Silver Lake that there could be some kind of coordination like real
big ticket stuff like talking to the people from the state and talking to us representatives would be like the mayor's round table and then it can the environmental round table to talk about this kind of common stuff. >> Yeah. >> And I just generally think it's
important that like you know if you're if you're the mayor, if you're at the BA, you're operating you're looking at the high level of things. >> Um and I don't mean more important, I just mean like full picture scope. Uh so having
having the people who are work who are in it and are really thinking about these issues day in and day out and making the recommendations is only makes sense. I think it'd be great to do like have take this step have Belmar invite the neighboring towns environmental commission over to Taylor Pavilion and
>> have a meeting think about what the agenda would look like. also just in general and I I talked about this maybe a year ago and I put it down but I want to bring it back up is to have >> so >> we have quum issues you know like we can't have three of us
>> talking town stuff in the same room >> oh because it becomes the public meeting >> correct >> sunshine walls >> exactly uh which is fine but I often thought and I what spurred me first on this was actually the Verizon issue would be to have like a mayor's meeting of like the coastal towns up and down
the um I think would be really helpful because also like you know obviously it's not just Verizon there's so many issues that um beach town specifically share uh that I think are worth talking to all the other towns on not just to work collaboratively but also to learn
from each other and to warn each other whatever the case may be >> you go to a couple meetings >> I went to the Neptune City environmental commission meeting and I went to the >> the wall it's not the commission it's some other commission environmental advisory committee.
>> That's the one. So, um, and in both cases, we in on both sides, I think really like benefited from talking to each other about just the logistics of how you do stuff. Like we talked about sustainable Jersey, we talked about, you know, regional like stuff between law
and we're next to each other. So, there's I think the conversations were great and it was kind of inspiring because there's people in every town that are working on these things and a lot of we're walking the same road and we can help each other get there a little more quickly based on each
other's experiences. So I think any way that we can figure that out can invite like they invited us like we could invite them back and perhaps come up with a joint agenda or we can start to have these conversations because everybody was was great you know and
even following up like about different things that we talk about to see well how can we have another question you know now you have somebody you can ask who's like you who's local it's right there. Yeah, I think the learning is really important too because there's so many things that we've touched each touched and like how we deal with
different issues. There's a lot of learning and it just opens up that communication that you can find someone to talk to that's done this before or we can do the same for them. >> And I sent out the um Ang is having their environmental congress on the fall and watershed is one of the topics they're going to talk about. But if we
have a a small but hardy budget so if anybody's interested let me know. we can get a purchase order and you can attend the congress. It's only one day and I think it's maybe so you have the information but if you sign up if if you say you want to sign up on your purchase order you don't have to put any money but let them know and
then we'll do something collectively because I think it then you get to meet the state people and you get to meet the people at sustainable Jersey and you get to meet the ANJ staff and they're all working along the same for the same goals that we are wealth resources. Does
uh Monmouth County have an environmental commission standing environmental commission? >> They have one, but it seems very removed. Like I tried to like hunt them down to see if there was someone I could talk to. I wasn't able to do that. But they they operate at a county level. So
it seemed like their agenda was a little different than ours. But I don't know. I've never been to >> Do you want me to You want me to try? But see if you can >> I just I mean because it would seem that they would have a vested interest in coordinating these things also >> but they never contact.
>> Yeah. I know. So I mean that's I mean I'm agreeing 100%. I don't know what they do and everything else. I know they have a have that little that website right which and you got in touch with somebody. >> Yeah. But it was it was very clear he had like recycling and >> Yeah. >> that was his focus. Very helpful. I mean
he spent a lot of money reproducing stuff for us. I I'll just say I work for county government and their viewpoint is different than the local. >> So, and like they're they're building bridges and they're, you know, they're doing a lot of bigger bonded transportation related things which have
impact and I think that might be part of why they have a county, you know, group. I think sometimes like maybe there's topics and they might have a group like the recycling group. So, it was really clear there was a person, he knew what to do. He provided all the resources. We've got social media stuff
from him because we needed it to post, right? >> And so it was like a clear, you know, there were some dedicated person. So maybe depending on the topic, there might be those people first try to get the whole committee. >> Yeah, there is a regular meeting of the whole, but I couldn't I couldn't delve
into how that >> if we're looking for something to ask them like rather than be like, "Hey, county, what do you do?" Um, a thing to ask them about because it's my understanding it's not our purview is the bulkhead from clear park along Route
35 that goes to the town border. It's all wood. It's falling apart. It's been together. But it looks like, you know, there's probably someone whose job it is to like slot in fixing that someday before it becomes a problem. Route 35 washes out in some big disaster. So you
know which part of 35 by >> from park >> all the way to where it >> south right >> west you know toward station >> um well it's the the bulk the bulkhead >> and there's like a patch of grass like
this wide with trees on it and the roads right there. >> Okay. And that whole bulkhead that holds that's holding 35 up because it wasn't there when it just washed out is wood and it looks like it's been there for like 50 years and they patched it and there's always holes and there's sand leaking through. So it's a problem. It's
putting sediment into Shark River on Belar. >> It is. It is Belnar until it's not wood anymore. Like right where the line is, they they redid it. It's all metal bulkhead on the wall part from the Bel
from the Belmar Boulevard 35 intersection further west towards the Earth Pond. That little creek thing that runs under there, that was all redone sometime in the last 15 years. But the that area of the wooden bulkhead from the end from the west end of mccclary
park where the the baby beach is to that intersection is a problem that is going to need to be fixed sometime you know and right now when we're we go we I go walk over there you can see there's places that deteriorate sand is coming through and every once in a while they fix it it's
real big it looks like it's going to it's going to get under 35 and on the problem, but knowing do they have a plan? Is that like in the 2035 budget to fix that and we need to tell them up? >> I'm happy to ask, you know,
>> our eyeballs tell us it's a problem. It's somebody's pro. It's probably somebody's job to say, hey, we're going to have to fix it someday, but we can put it off till this year. So, that's the plan. Like, what is the plan? Because the stuff that the mayor's group is going to talk about is going to one thing that will include is um coastal
resiliency. So the resiliency of that bulkhead to keep 35 from washing out if there's a big storm again is something that's that the county would be interested in because 35 is the major artery over to
the hospital and much other like a lot of reasons to worry about that not just >> we don't want more sand filling in Shark River but you know >> so Dan if if it's all right with with you and everyone else I'm more than happy to speak to them about a potential we've talked a potential future project
of focusing on McCclary Park and using this as an example of things around McCclary Park besides, you know, our bulkhead and >> and some other things. I'll just, you know, >> see what we can find out and if we can network with them get some information at least questions and who's managing
it. >> Yeah, I can do that. >> So, >> and like if we see a problem, who do we call other D would be interested if there was sediment going in, but like who fixes that? who decides that it's could be enough of a problem to send somebody else to >> that's and that's why you know to find
out is that you're saying is that county engineer Joe is the environmental commission is there another committee so I can I'll do that I'll find >> not done with the lake yet but yes so this this is I just wanted you to have a copy of this patchwork for wildlife
we're um opening up a branch sponsored by the environmental commission So we have a group of homes that we're recognizing with certificates for their sustainable landscaping, native plants, all that permeable purposes. Um so they have an awards ceremony.
We're going to do a second round if anybody wants to nominate a neighbor and part of what we do is we'll give the neighbors the people get the certificates this information about. So, it's kind of part of the whole sustainable landscaping um push.
But the thing about this program is it's very positive. It's not about criticizing. It's about just recognizing people who have done good things and that we beg them for it. >> So, who do we have a list of who we are? >> It's on the website
>> on their I think it's candid.org. If you look the websites on the back, the first one is the one that's connected to your patchwork. So they're listed there. They also have what they call geom mapping. So you can actually see where these places are and
not just in Belmer but in uh Lake Ko and also they're opening up a branch in Pleasant and so you can see and Redbank so you can see where those places are. And what they did in Lake Koa last year is they organized a garden tour so that they kind of all the homeowners knew
people would be coming that day in that time. People would walk through to see what their the yards look like. So I think it's a nice positive thing. >> Um so there's that. Um and also I happen to run into Tom Brennan and as we
mentioned Tom Brennan is a former member of our group who um Bradley Beach is now collecting fine plastic for Maza they have collect when they do recycling they also collect that and Maza is taking it. So if we want to look into that or not
>> I have been looking into it actually. Yeah. Um, I have some information from Avon and I have a call scheduled with Bradley >> for next week to talk about it. So, getting move on that. Um, I believe that's the same program that originally had the offer to have it for free here
for a year. >> Yeah. I don't know. He didn't know if he didn't think there was a list, but he really isn't would know. But they have recycling containers for this type of plastic that the town is giving out. >> Yes. >> This is Bradley.
>> Yeah. So that's that's about all I know. That's good news. >> Just wanted to pass that on. So >> yes. >> Um Okay. So you want to talk about the energy plan and where? So right now we're running a grant to do a multi-year
energy plan for Belmar and Dark on that. >> So we're we've identified the buildings in the town that um are going to be audited. Um and so we're making good progress. We have a team that's assigned to us from sustainable are from this LGA which is local government energy audit
um organization and they are um collecting our gas and electric which is what they need to start with and so we've given them the ability to get that from the organization so they're making some progress in that area and as soon as that is done they'll assign us a
person that will come and then we'll just get some resources within the town to be there open the doors for them and they did it audit back in 2010 Um so basically the goal now would be to really understand what opportunities there were and hopefully cost savings.
So that um an energy benefit that you're going to see by some of the changes they're going to recommend. The second step would be then working with sustainable Jersey to find funding ways that we there's a lot of opportunities for grants that we can do once we have that ammunition to say here's some things that need to be changed and can
be approved to to make the um you know from an energy standpoint as well as I think the big benefit could be cost savings because it would be nice to understand which things they're doing that we could find a more efficient way to do. Well, given the cost of electricity, the town's probably going
to want to save money, too, right? >> Yeah. So, I think I think that'll be good. And I think it just points to Sustainable Jersey being a great partner for us. And one of the things maybe by the next meeting I'd like to do. So, we have we achieved the silver status as we all know through everyone's help to this
year. Um, I think it's gotten us a lot of recognition as well as there's resources and an opportunity to really show when we apply for grants that we're part of this. So, it kind of elevates our status. The next step would be to try to go to the bronze level. Um, >> yeah, I'm sorry. Bronze and silver. Um,
sorry. But one of the things that I think would be helpful, there's there's about 10 at least 10 different categories and you really need to stay on top of it to make sure that we're doing the things each year because you have a lot of requirements. So, for example, this year we missed recyclability. So, we've done a lot of
social media on recyclability this year to be able to meet those requirements. So maybe next meeting I can share the categories and what I'd like to recommend is that we all kind of you know be responsible for that one particular category and it really is just monitoring what's needed. Are we
delivering on what's required so that when it comes time next year for us to um you know apply for more we don't say oh we missed it because of a particular reason. So, I think doing a little bit of separating and we're all really focused in one area will help us really
be able to achieve the ones especially the ones we weren't able to some of them we just missed slightly. Um, and I think that um by us focusing on and kind of splitting that up would be helpful. >> Who is running I mean who's running right now the Facebook, right? Is the
burrow like reposting those posts and things like that? >> Not unless I send them to them. And we also have Christa. So we hired her right to do a lot of the >> but just low hanging fruit like the burrow should be like just reposting
that great. >> Yeah. >> And if you have any commissions and things like that. >> If you have anything you want me to put up, you need to send it to me because I just need freestyling. >> Okay. You're doing great. >> Thank you. But um as as far as I know
unless I reshare it to them, >> it doesn't get posted >> and >> and I've been resharing it to the Belmar site because it puts it puts it on our site which is a small group of people but good. Um and then I've been sending it over and they they just pick it up
and it goes right out. So >> which is great. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But it would be nice like you said if we can just >> broaden that audience wherever we can. I guess can we just post on the Belmar site or does it need approval? >> I think it's only me or Christa. >> Okay. >> Oh, you mean the Belmar Belmar? No. No. >> Yeah.
>> So, maybe we can send it to when things like that happen, we can just send it to April. >> It'll be Jenna. Jenna. Jenna. Jenna. Yes. Um and I'll I'll just uh text her about it because she just >> So, she does the social media. >> Yes. >> So, you put Jenna in
>> Jenna Vanest. So, and you put like patchwork information out. >> I'd like to I mean you posted up this meeting. So, that information is going out on our site, right? >> But mindfully, item by item we've been,
you know, giving it to Ed or he's been So, >> but if there was a system set up where the bar would just automatically >> the latest post was patchwork that Kristen did. >> Yeah. The other thing what we've asked Christa to do before she finishes off the rest of um the social media part is we put together a calendar of what we
asked her to do and so she's going to catalog what was done because a lot of the thing like even for sustainable Jersey we need to we we go searching for what we actually did. So maybe we can figure out a system where we you know just start cataloging that on a calendar so we know where
>> it's all saved in the meta business suite. >> Yeah. So, it's all there, >> saved, archived, >> right? She's going to kind of put it together and say, "Okay, we had here's, for example, recycling. We went we had these three posts. They went to this many people because those are the kind
of requirements we need to to make it easy." So, >> you need a spreadsheet. >> Yeah. So, she's putting it we did a calendar, a Google Drive calendar of it. So, I don't know. We can talk about what you think would be the easiest >> for us to be able to >> There's two different things. We have to do a final report of the grant. Like
grants come with strength attached. So we have to prove that it did what they gave us the money for >> and then sustainable jersey like there's all that documentation that we have to >> so we just want to make it easy. So if you think there's a way to capture it >> I'll see what she comes back with. >> I assume that the business suite allows you to like export the data
>> probably. She said she had to do it manually so with the visual so we'll see what she comes back with. What we could probably do, this is a tangent, but um there's programs like I have the paid for version, but Hootswuite for instance is
a social media manager >> platform, right? >> Um and you put all of your different socials in there and then you can also preschedu and you can tag them so and then say like give me all the impressions and everything and it'll
just automatically generate those reports for you across the board which is nice. I know there's a free version. I don't know how sensitive it is, but it might be helpful in this instance, especially if you're running both Facebook and Instagram and you want to like report out for grants.
>> So, um she comes back >> to go back to the energy grant for a second because we met with Kevin Kane way back when this started and he said something about having setting up meetings with other people in the burrow. So we I kind of just wanted to bring that up again because at some
point we want to give our employees an opportunity to weigh in on the energy plan. >> So is your vision like meeting with a group of them or meeting with them oneonone? What is your >> either way? I the uh the grant the people providing the money envision
these big meetings with everybody. But if it's easier for BMAR to do it person by person, >> I have no idea which one is. >> He kind of he kind of mentioned that he could get group, you know, from the different groups, police, everything together that I think they meet, don't they? >> I don't know. I asked if they had staff
meetings and he said that he did, but that's the last part heard of it. >> But we could we could bring that up. >> Why don't you bring that up? Email like rea. I'm sure there's so just copy me on it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. because it like the idea on their people who provide us with this
opportunity is they want the people stakeholders to have a chance to find a way in. So if it includes the people who work on the beach, the people who work public works, the people in the, you know, the first aid, everybody, fire department, anybody who's part of the
community, people who work in the burrow, um like they did mention they're going to digitize their records over there. So that like those kinds of things are part of the plan for the town to be more So, um, we'd like to I'll do that.
>> Uh, Matthew, do you want to talk about the heart rate? I >> was heartbre This is This is most This is mo mostly a serious comment. One of the things that we can ask them to do is for the forms you have to fill out for the town, make them fillable PDFs. So
you don't have to print them out and then scan them and then put just for things like a job application or the facility use thing like the forms are >> I was a form like this big for >> seven pages I believe it was >> and it's like if you're going to need
police and traffic and I'm like I just want to do a thing that's like this big and it's been >> whenever I have to do something like that my printer does not work on the day I need it to work every single time and I'll be like print >> and I picture theming print on the other end too. So like all
>> a very >> inefficient process from time and like mental, you know, but it's not very environmental to have like a form that's almost a fillable form that you could just click and do it. You got to print it out, scan it, send it back, and they're going to print it out and look at it and you're just like,
>> there isn't like we're going on this boat trip and it was very easy. It was all online, the waiver, all this stuff. It's like so simple and they're just running a boat and they have it down. So >> I love a good Google form. Um that said, I wanted to backtrack on
you were talking about sustainable Jersey ideas. Um and we also talked about cross town collaboration. Something that we should think about, especially if we're going to start talking to the town's environmental commissions that I know we haven't done, but we can get points for is an environmental fair. Neptune City doesn't
do one. Neptune doesn't do one. We don't do one. We all do done one for the last two years. David Roberts, the chair, has spearheaded it. It's my understanding that David is taking a one-year sbatical because he's going to law school at Rhode Island. >> He's going to be an environmental lawyer. It's wonderful.
>> That's that's like >> impressive. >> He's really something. Yeah. >> Um, but that that might mean there's a little bit of an opportunity like maybe that would open up all the saying like, hey, maybe we should do it across all the towns because it would if we're going to have cross collaboration across all the towns, it' be pretty cool to
have an environmental fair on Sharp River in McClary Park or in Volunteer Park, whatever it is in Sharp River Hills or, you know, >> maybe. >> Can I ask a question? Who's the audience for environmental care? Like who what is it? >> Good question.
It's the same audience as when we're saying you've got these pamphlets. >> What are the what are like the town things that would put the people who we want to get this message there? You have Brad the Beach does it. They have an environmental fair and it's literally
just they bring environmental organizations and a couple of vendors and have somebody play music and just people that give a darn about the environment who are like I want to see what's going on. Maybe they want to volunteer. Maybe they are are audience of people that really want to talk about
recycling plastic film or sustainable gardens, but they want to learn more and they want to learn about the things they're not thinking about. >> Um, >> do you know what theirs is? Good to see it like
pretty recently. >> We Sher Cleanup Coalition tabled at the Bradley one and we've tabled at the wall one. the long one they did in a layer park and it's been very wonderful. It's been a very wonderful meeting of all the
people who are tableling but we didn't get any foot traffic in my opinion. Well, there was supposed to be a festival one day and it got cancelled but they kept us but I think putting it somewhere where people are going to be anyway.
>> Yeah. Well, maybe not on the boardwalk but public places there's a lot of people there. Well, it you also need, you know, you need room to put all the people. >> Yeah, >> maybe. So, I think >> I think it had to be at the end of August because of the camp. >> Sure.
>> Unless you can get during a week weekend. >> You did that once before. We did it in October. >> Yeah. >> So, >> and how was it received? >> It's terrific. >> Yeah. Christ did a presentation on uh New Jersey organizing project and then >> we invited all the local
>> environmental commission turnout for that. That's really nice. >> So the purpose is just information sharing, right? >> Yeah. But it's also targeted to residents, not just neighbors. >> Yeah. But for information sharing and letting people know. >> All right. >> It's kind of understand the projects
that we're working on too. that's new like China. >> Well, and especially if there are things that could be done across all the towns that are in town specific or things where we're collaborating. So, if it's next April or May and there's an
environmental fair, there could be a table talking about dredging, how many men's coming together for dredging, they're trying to make a plan and that will be placed to present that time. Um, Candy's garden, you could picture them having a table and getting people. We did that sustainable landscaping and
that was a couple different towns and that was really nice to be able to talk to our neighbors >> about something that we have. >> You could probably get um corporate sponsorships from some of the like solar landscaping and other things like that. >> They inevitably end up having tables
there at those folks. >> I know they invited the Ruckers master gardener and the one in Bradley Beach and had him do a little presentation about plant like you can do all sorts of things >> similar to the master gardener. So he had a bad experience. >> I can imagine. >> Um but that that would be something that
>> we did. >> If we were sponsoring or co-sponsoring something like that and I think there really isn't one like Bradley there's just a lot of people are just like passing through it wasn't really targeted towards residents. It's mostly vendors like a couple environmental
organizations. But if you really tried to get you could get literal society to be there in a heartbeat. Um probably some of the correspondences like Maza for recycling. >> They came to our marty and they had you know games for kids to play and prizes.
It was they really were willing to do it. >> So I mean that could even be >> something with like the high school environmental club too. >> Yeah. Walls environmental club was at their one. You could probably get the high schools to send their environmental organizations. >> Yeah. We have all those contacts from
when they were doing the beach days. we just weren't early enough. But I think they're very willing to talk to us and I actually spoke to Wall who helped us out with some of the conversations on that. >> It's also like you know on the other side the kids pointed to community service and this is a way like we had kids at the lake cleanup who were
getting community service hours because that's part of their club or their their honor society or whatever they're in. >> No, they were very they've been very responsive. It's just a matter of was timing. The second one, the first one we had some of the kids come, but the first one, the second one was a little I think it was like one of the breaks and it was
not and they had something planned. But I think even going to next year if we could do things sooner and let them know then the first because they signed up for other ones. >> So they can help us get >> on school starts if we start reaching out to the schools that we have some ideas to what we want to do
>> and maybe invite the advisors to come to one of our meetings and be part of talk about what they think would be good >> for their students. >> That would be great. Yeah, we have all the contacts. So we I think we have you have some too high school doing some stuff. >> I presented about water quality and
water monitoring and empty school and so I have a whole presentation now and I just need to get to the other high schools and it was too late for wall. I was talking with um the science the environmental science teacher in the the
>> Mr. Grover. >> No. Um >> do you know him? Tenant Josh Tenant there's Greg who was the student when I was there and very good looking around possible get
>> yeah we have all that from when we all flyers >> then the next one was education and outreach so it's been a long time in coming and it would be a week from today if we can get it over the finish line is um SRCC and literal society and
environmental commission in Melmar are going to co-sponsor a river sanding event. Only problem is it was a much more involved process than I thought. It's just like email Charles and then it was like actually there's a big form in approval process. >> So >> is that cuz she's new? Is that why they
>> Well, it was >> I don't have an explanation. Okay. >> I >> that's okay. I was advised earlier like when we got to Billy Mto and somebody else and they're like email Charles but it really should have been um the person who just sent me the social media >> yeah she's really the gatekeeper and
Charles is just on the email but it site plan examples advertisements just FYI Neptune City was like a two-page form and was done in like an hour >> um but unless there's some kind of
hiccup and we get the approval from Belmar to do it. It's going to be next Thursday and there's going to be another one in Neptune City on Friday. Um, in order to get credit for it, we need to make sure we put the word out about it on behalf of Belar environmental condition. So once I get the thumbs up,
>> what are you actually what are they doing? >> You get a big 30 foot net and you go out in the water and you drag it towards the shore and all the little fish and creek and crawl these things that are in there and you put them in a kitty pool and you identify them and people, families, kids. We should put together a request release about it too. Get to the coar.
>> Yeah. >> What day? >> Well, it's unfortunately it's very soon. It's next week. >> No, I know. I'm just going to see if if it's too late because the next coar will be the 21st. >> The cut off is Tuesday. So, if you get to them by Tuesday. >> Yeah, but if the event's on Thursday, that's a little late.
>> Yeah. >> Probably social media is >> Oh, well, yes. Good point. Yes. >> And the photography. >> That would be great. Then we have >> Yeah, retroactive publicity still works just the same as far as information. >> Well, we could get that out on social media, right? >> If somebody sends me something.
>> Yeah. I I had to submit a flyer already. So once I could just send you that exactly as it is. >> Um and the the idea is if we get interest that you could do it could be a regular thing, you know, do it once or twice a year. They said that there's
more stuff defined if you do it later in the season. Um, so maybe next year we try to do one or two in August, but just advertise a lot ahead of time. And >> I wonder though, like should you should we do it in September when schools start and we can talk to the schools about
coming and taking it as part of their lessons and things. >> Well, one of the it's a good question. What what they advised was summer when it's still light out until 7:30 7:45 but like when people are actually available if we get as we get later in the year it
needs to be more during like parents are still working kind of hours but uh the doing that same thing but for like a high school class or two high school classes would be something cool >> that'd be less like advertise it to the public come and register here and more
like just for the students. Yeah, they would probably be all over >> elementary school. >> Yeah, and I think September still I mean you're still >> might we could still do it and then >> my head's going to other places if it's not a public if it's more of a contained
event like know exactly who's going ahead of time. >> It wouldn't even need to be there. We could find other places and maybe a little more cool stuff to find other than just right there in the clear park. But we're just inviting people and it's like park here or show up look for the table over there. Right.
>> We would do it in that area, but we can go further if you want. >> You know, you can still invite the schools just let them know about it ahead of time that maybe the clubs like the environmental clubs will come >> and then in addition to the people >> and it's the first time we're doing it, but if we get even mild success like now
I know who the email and what form it is like it'll be easier going forward, right? So even even though it feels like we're pulling it together last minute, I'm still hoping that we'll be a template for doing this in the future and then that can be something that we co-sponsor and we get the word out about it and we get legitimate credit for
being involved in promoting it and you know it'll be something happening on our soil or on our waterfront that gets people interested, >> gets people more knowledgeable too about their environment which is kind of our whole point. Right. >> Right. Yeah. >> Yeah. These are the those are the
activities that you want people you want people to be thinking about it. >> Yeah. >> They're like, "Yeah, that was cool. We pulled the fish out last year." Like, I want to do it again. >> It's the same one. It's the same thing with the horseshoe crab, too. Once people get into it, then they might start coming back every year.
>> Do you publicize that too ahead of time? >> We do. >> Okay. >> We do. um mostly on the Neptune and Neptune City side, but I've been trying to get people more interested in the There aren't as many horses and crabs over in the L Street area, but
>> there is there's a camp going on now. >> Would they be interested in participating those pits? >> They're probably singing anyway. So, this would be more for, you know, it would be open to all. But I wonder if they have like the knowledge that
would >> That's a good question. >> Yeah. Whoever runs the >> Yeah, it would there's opportunities. There's definitely opportunities for collaboration, but the camp is just their business, you know, like
>> they I have attempted to reach out to them about partnering on things, including on behalf of SRCC giving them money for scholarships for kids who attend and they were just like >> they're just like they do their thing. They want to >> they don't want to hear about
collaborating or partnering. That was my that was my personal experience with the new it's like new age marine science camp or something like that. Forget I forget the exact name. >> Teachers are usually looking for activities though. >> Yeah. You well the person in charge I
think the individual people involved interested but anyway >> um >> they'll see you out there. >> Yes. Um was one more thing I was going to say and I forget what it is. So, um
the Shark River Cleanup Commission is going to have a bay clean up in the um first weekend of October. I'll double check the date and share with you guys, but that's coming too. Um, and just what you said earlier, does momentum come
together for the town reps and literal society and SROCC to have a meeting about getting all of the necessary constituents together to look at not well dredging and shoreline resiliency projects that may have some
overlap, but could go. One project is just dredging the navigational channels and the other one is something more building something, making something. But it's cool that that's happening. The one one part I'll add to is that since
for the water mon for Shark River Community Science, the water monitoring program that I run, um we because the like impactful hit that we got last year was in Neptune City. We reached out to because the legislative district on the
other side of Shark River is all different people than the ones you guys talked to. So we reached out to um Gopal and Senator uh Assemblywoman Peter Paul and Assemblywoman Peter Paul gave us a meeting. We met with her for half an hour and talked to her about Shark River
and water quality and water monitoring program and ended up really steering towards the bigger stuff like dredging and stuff. So it started out with me and my little water monitoring program and we ended up educating her in general about Shark River and water quality and we kind of slipped in and dredging is part of that because deeper channels
means more flow and that kind of thing. So, we primed >> good >> some folks in the other district for that kind of thing, too. Um, and I reached out to um Palone's office and they wrote me back, but I think the detail I gave him was like that we're too small fish or maybe it's just
they're busy. >> Does Palon have any his district cover any of the Shark River waterershed? >> Yeah, Neptune and Neptune City. So, he he came to the R for sea fair last year in July and he came to our tent. I didn't know who he was. which is great
because I'm there talking about water monitoring and you know I'm just like this guy looks kind of familiar but I don't really know who he is. I thought he might have been like a council person in Neptune >> and then after it was like oh that was that's so cool that Frank Pong came and I was like >> but then we got on his Facebook page and
a picture of me and him and me like explaining something. So it was it was good it was good publicity for SROCC. But >> even better is that it we talked we brought up judging with him then. So more little opportunities you get to like get people thinking in terms of
that. And the other thing I mentioned to Assemblywoman Peter Paul was that um there's an overlap between the places where you have concentrated public use of Shark River for recreation and what we think might be true or eyeballs tell
us with the data is that that that's attracting undeserved populations. free swimming beach and free recreation area >> that she agreed she kind of like perked up and agreed that we could get data
that showed that either Belmar or Neptune City is like an attractor of people from outside of the walkable within the zip code but from other areas that that would be that would that would make any application for money to do something
beneficial more that would >> I wonder how we prove that like We know that. But how do we prove that? >> A survey. >> You go out with a clipboard and talk to people and say random. >> Who are you? How often are you? How often are you here? >> What zip code are you from? >> Low income. Why do you come?
>> We do that a couple times. >> Yeah. Why do you come here? >> I mean, you got to be real careful on the approach and like overl I've been contemplating this for like a year and a half. if we could find one of the local universities, somebody somebody who knows about like public
research and public outreach because I could make up a use chat. I'm like >> I have question. >> So a friend of mine just started just got a grant to start what she's called the democracy lab at Ruckers University
which is about like seeing how like local but higher level two government like can directly actually like approach a project and and execute a project and help people. >> Um I think uh she's starting it right now.
This is year one, but part of it was is about like taking college students to places to to work and I'm wondering if that's a good person for us to >> certainly >> she also started their whole like national intelligence department. She's like a very accomplished person. This
isn't like a casual person going in and starting something. So >> are She's in Lake Como. >> Oh, that's perfect. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Our our amateur thinking on it. >> See what she thinks. >> Yeah. >> What >> uh our my amateur not having done this before thinking on it was that we wanted
to keep it short like nine or 10 questions. We don't want it to be online because we have no idea. >> Right. It's got to be face to face and it would really help to have >> young local speaking. So Spanish and probably Chinese too. If you go out there and
you're looking at the people fishing and grabbing and stuff, it's not just what I'm guessing the Spanish speaking population. Like there might be a couple of different ways to approach it, but until we go out and try it for the first time, I won't really know. But it would be
I'd be more inclined to put my time into it if we could get the advice from someone who's done it before. And maybe I'm bad at Googling, but I can't find just like using keywords, that kind of stuff, an example of someone trying to do the same kind of research. I found something about like a lake in like
Minnesota, right? But I couldn't find any online example of like a go to a public water access area and just survey people. Where are you from? What do you do here? >> I would say yeah, from the data that we looked at for this grant was basically self.
>> Yeah. I'm wondering like like what's the least intimidating way to ask someone who might feel threatened by the question >> and it might be something like >> how far did you travel to come here instead of like where are you from? You know what I mean? Like things like that. Um
>> we I was hoping there >> if we thought it was going to be local people we could show on a map and say point what zone you're from but I think that we're getting people from outside of the immediate 07719 zip code. >> Oh, for sure. But we could just ask for zip code. Like you couldn't track
someone down with just their zip code. >> You could, >> you know, you could. >> I think I think we it's it's a really sensitive topic. I think that we I've done a lot of like surveys for for personal topics and those kind of things. So there's definitely a method to how you do this, but I think the question is, is now the time, right, to
do that? And you have to be careful. You also don't want to scare people off. >> Yeah. >> So next thing you know, there's like nobody at the beach because somebody's doing a survey. So it's something we should definitely talk about. What I'm sure is it shouldn't be me in like a polo shirt looking semi- anybody could whether it's even if it's
college students. It could be, you know, your people going to feel threatened. >> We we were joking. I found this on Amazon. You can get a giant inflatable shark suit where the head is the mouth is open like this or shouldn't be in there. And I'm like, if I'm walking around like this, the kids probably come over be like, "Oh my god, there's a
shark." Like something like icebreaking. Like you're obviously not there to get them in trouble. If you had like, you know, we're thinking like maybe we would project for the envir elementary school environmental get like actual kids. >> Yeah.
>> Or I do think some people could sign up for if you're doing education on something like let's say you're doing the the fish thing and you get people to sign up, you can start asking those questions because it's in context of you know helping them do something additional. Yeah. >> Um but
>> or like some kind of environmental related outreach just to put people out. I mean cuz there's so many people in McClary Park on the nice weekends. It's like all the picnic tables are all filled up. >> Just starting to establish some kind of
presence of like you know someone with asth >> you know. So >> maybe it's to sign up for something and then in doing that you can >> Yeah. like a little bit of like visual identity like oh these are people that are just here
>> to not do anything scary. Start with that and then start asking questions or with the local high school getting someone getting people from within the community to be involved would be helpful too. >> Y
>> but um that's an next year idea. I wasn't able to get that one going, but the same thing at least we're starting with. So, we should get credit for that. Fingers crossed. See what happens. >> Take pictures, please. >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll definitely do some social media. I know literal society does that, too. >> Um, yeah, someone from the paper can
work on as well. >> Send a press release. Good chance. They'll send a reporter. They have a new film or reporter. >> Yeah, I can help you with that. I contact with them. So, >> I'd like I'd like to go back to uh the lake stuff. Nick, can he join the lake subcommittee?
>> I I'll ask him. I didn't ask him because he seems a little overstretched and a little frail. >> He's been difficult. That's why we didn't have him on the environmental commission because he was between here, >> Florida, and he had health problems >> and he's still >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So then can we actually vote as a
commission that he can actually do stuff on our behalf? Because I don't want to vote on anything. Yes. I mean I just I just what are we getting asking questions to give information? >> Yeah. Like how does somebody get >> I don't know how does somebody do we could just anyone anyone can start
looking information for us and and give it to us like I'm just going back >> using my name as the >> Dian's requesting it. >> I was the one >> I No, I agree. It's just going back to a uh it's it's just that I'd like to put
in the minutes that we all agree that we want Nick to do things on our >> I think we should think about what we want done first and then figure out if >> existing structure already needs >> and then if you need help >> yeah I mean he just as a neighbor
offered to give a little bit of insight because he's works in the field but that that was it there was no commitment right >> I would rather talk to him before >> cuz I thought he was very sharp. >> Oh yeah, >> he's very sharp and if he's you know >> he's very Yeah.
>> And if he could do things on our behalf, I think it's good. It's just that >> I I just think that if he doesn't we should either have him as part of a committee or as a you know someone that we think that we're using as a you know an expert for us that we can call on. >> Give me a chance to talk to him about
it. >> Okay. Is there anything else? >> Uh just at the heart commission meeting something came up. um about sometimes there's issues with the um boat captains or the boat owners um not just cleaning their boats, but sometimes doing actual
work on their boats in the marina, which adds obviously um bad things into the water into the surrounding area. So, um I'm going to work on trying to craft an ordinance so that we could get the people to do that, right? >> Because there's really not much teeth behind any telling them that they can.
Um, >> didn't something just happen that >> Oh, that oil spill Neptune. Yeah. Unrelated. Unrelated. They're talking about things like that. Doing work on your boat, you know, >> and you're not supposed to do that. >> Yeah. You're not supposed to. Yeah. >> Supposed to be in a boatyard. So, just
making sure it's like trying to make an actual ordinance that would allow us to really enforce those. >> Could that be inclusive of something that would help us? >> I sure hope so. Well, it I didn't finish my sense. >> Sorry.
>> It was brought up that there people always ask me when I make presentations to people about water quality, like where's it coming from? One potential area where bacterial contamination could be coming from is there are boats that are not
doing pumpout sewage into the station, just releasing it into the water. So, if we're going to do an ordinance that says what you can and can't do that has an environmental impact, it could be like people that never move their boat and never goes anywhere, but they spend a
lot of time on it. Well, they're using the bathroom that sitting on the shore anyway. >> The the the town takes care of those. So, that's not like a there's no like um Portage John type of external person who comes and bumps out that goes. But like
it's my understanding that they have to go over to the fuel station to do the pump. That's where the pumpout connection is. So for the boats that are sitting there and people they're never >> Oh, I see what you're saying. >> But there's people on them all the time, they're they got to be doing something with their sewage and if they're not moving the boat and going refueled.
>> I see what you're saying. >> Like boats that are just there as like a >> converation on boats that don't move did come up at the meeting but not with through that perspective. So that's interesting. Like >> I will I will add that to the list of things to talk about. >> Yeah. Like if you're on your boat a lot
and it never moves that then what are they doing with your sewage? You know what are they? And you can't check that. But if >> is their boat whether or not they wash their hands after they went to the bathroom. >> Isn't there something to that? Isn't
that kind of like a dumping? There's got to be something. >> Yeah. You can't you can't do that. So just other things to well give us a little >> the idea is if someone never moves their boat and they're on it a lot like how do you you have to be there waiting and like water testing or something like
that but if they're on the boat a lot and it never moves that kind of >> that that could create the condition where they have to tell you then what they're doing about it like you know they're not pumping out if the boat never moves and they're on it all the time. So create some kind of something
whereby they're compelled to explain, you know, if your boat never moves and they're on it a lot. What are >> there is there are a couple boats that never move, >> but I don't know if they're on it a lot. >> So, you know, one only one or two conditions definitely met.
>> It's just it was a thought because that's >> that's one of the potential issues. If we know a boat never moves and there's some people on it a lot, >> it's a reason to ask more questions. >> Yeah. what do you you know how are you how are they managing that? Um, you
know, I've heard, you know, I've heard that some people >> and this is arguably environmental related, although >> Excuse me. Sorry. >> Um, I kind of want to put on Facebook. Uh, when you walk around, there's way
too many parts where you have like the dangling wires or the looped wires. But there's even places on major you have a wire dangling. Look, and I'm 5'5 and I can reach up and touch it. That's a problem. Um, so putting something in the ordinance about you can't do that and we will find you or cut it off ourselves if
you do that. Um, >> are those telephone lines you mean? >> The lower ones are the telephone lines, not the electric lights. You're not talking about >> whatever the lines they are. If it's messy and hanging down there like willy-nilly, you can't do that. And they do it because it makes it easy for them.
They have to go and add something up. But like tough because other towns don't have that. Why are you making a mess of >> Belmont? You shouldn't like shouldn't see the one in my backyard. >> I believe you. No, it started because my one of my neighbors >> one of my neighbors on eighth was like
show brought me to his backyard and was showing me like they had it dangling and it was like right near a water like a bird found him. So it was just like oh man just looked like a very dangerous situation. >> Excuse me guys.
>> What do you want? >> All right. All right, we're good. Thank you guys for your time. I don't have your phone number. >> Okay.