sent to the Asbury Park Press and the co-star our official newspapers and notice that this meeting was posted on the bulletin board of the mun building. Counciloman Donovan here. Mayor Busco here. Councilman Randiro here. Councilman Le and Council McKini is
absent. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Remain standing please for a moment
of silence for our troops their families and first responders. Tonight in uh honor of Memorial Day, we're going to read off the names of individuals who were residents who died in the task force.
Malcolm Russell Bigalow, Frank Joyce, John Ferris, James Burton, Carl Foster, Edward Becker, Joseph Horton, Francis Class, James
Baragio, Joseph McConnell, Robert Sherman, Frederick Abbott, Raymond Herbert, Edward Schneider, and Walter Larrison Jr. here. I shop going to discuss
the call it a draft sign ordinance. Sure. Thank you, mayor. Um, I would just like I think we all received um this draft of the signed ordinance that we worked on with the signed ordinance committee and um I'd like to request
that we go um hopefully uh be able to put it on the agenda for next meeting for first reading uh and then send it to the planning board for notes. Um is that okay with everyone or do we need to discuss certain things about it first? I
just have a question since um we're looking at a version with track changes and there's some questions in here. Um number one it said the sign permit be reviewed by the burough sign committee prior to final review by the administrative officer. Is the signing
committee the adaf which was created for this or part of the zoning board? That's part of the planning boarding board. Excuse me. Thank you. That's all I wanted to know. Yeah, I I had um a question about that
because I was looking at it as if I were just a person who was going to put in an application for a sign and it wasn't clear to me what what the actual steps were because it seems like the first step says the application
shall be made to the administrative officer, zoning officer for the issuance of a signed permit by any person wishing to erect I alter modify or expand any sign except exempt signs.
So, so if I'm I'm applying to put up a sign, I give my application to the zoning officer. Then it says set sign permit shall be reviewed by the burough sign committee prior to final review by the administrative
officer, zoning officer. So now the zoning officer gets my permit. Now, does he or she just give it to the to the um to the the burough sign committee without looking at it? Is that is that how we're Yes. So, actually, it would
come in and I would send it to the sign committee first and then once I get their comments, then give it to the zoning officer and he'll review their comments and the ordinance and make the final determination. Right. So it doesn't really I
mean we say something application shall be made to the I don't know why we keep calling them administrative officer and then the zoning officer. Can we just say zoning officer or is that like a term of art? I don't know. Right. We we
were wondering whether it should be changed to code enforcement official. We have three options. It goes to it goes through zoning, not code enforcement. Maybe it should say I just want to add something on on the side committee. I
was trying not to get shot on this one, but the sign committee can't have any authority to approve. Um because uh the the the way the statute is set up, you have an ordinance and zoning goes to the zoning officer. the zoning officer
either approves or denies and then there's an appeal. So there's another section in here where the sign committee has advice and consent authority. We can't confer to them that authority. Okay. So, what I'm thinking is maybe
that first sentence instead of saying shall be made to the administrative office or zoning officer, maybe we could just say it's has to be submitted to the through the zoning office or whatever uh whatever we want to call that because the zoning officer really isn't seeing it until it comes back after it's been
reviewed by the burough sign committee. So maybe we need to tweak that a little bit in terms of what what's uh because I think reading that people might think that the zoning officer is actually going to look at this, you know, before it goes to the sign committee and it's
not really from what April said. I gather it's just a matter of they're taking they're taking in the application at the zoning office and then she's going to give it to the sign committee who shall review it. And that's only if they need to review it because it's
different from what we're accepting. Correct. Like right now, we've changed that we are allowing sandwich board signs um as long as they, you know, are um against the building facade or within 3 ft. You know, that it doesn't impede
traffic. Um we don't have to have someone come in for a sign. Um just if if it already fits what we're requesting. Correct. Well, the the current process is they review all of them. All of them to make sure that it
is in compliance. Okay. That second paragraph I had to read like three times because I think it's just maybe the way it's structured because it reads now if the administrative officer determines that a sign requires the issuance of a signed permit and then it
says is not a part of an application for a site plan subdivision conditional use or variance approval. I think that's one option. Then the next one is is permitted as an accessory structure within the zone and meets the applicable
sign schedule requirements, the officer shall issue a sign permit. Is that that the way I'm reading it? Is that correct? I mean, so as long as it's not part of an application for a site plan, etc., and is already permitted as an accessory
structure, then the officer shall issue the sign permit. Is that Yeah. I think I don't know maybe just the way we we list it, you know, maybe they should be like options, you know, like maybe just skip a line and put a dash or something to to
show that those are the steps because then it says the applicant may then apply for the construction permit. But then the next paragraph says it's the reverse. It says if the administrative officer, which is interesting, we don't put zoning officer in parenthesis in that one. I don't know
why, but I guess it's I'm just I'm just picking no. Uh determines that the proposed sign is part of subdivision site plan or conditional use application or that it does not comply with the applicable regulations, signal requirements or
other sign regulations. The officer shall instruct the applicant that approval of the appropriate land use board is required. So I would do the same thing there. you know, have that those two sentences kind of broken out. So, you know, if if it's uh if it's does
not comply with this or if it's part of a subdivision, then that's going to go to a land use board. And then the final one is modification of existing signs requires relication. I I was thinking that might
that want to be the first thing that we put under this if somebody's reading it? I I don't know. You know like like I might I might put that as the first bullet point modification of existing sign require reapplication and
then you'll have the procedure for what for what it go I mean we could discuss that uh I don't know if that that makes sense. Um then going down to I guess it's E. It says no sign or
part of any sign except publicly owned or authorized signs shall be placed in or extend into or over any public right of way. Now this is already in the ordinance. This is not a change but I kind of was curious. It's like so what's an authorized
sign? We don't We don't have a for the Belmar 5 when we have signs going over there for finishing in. But I mean, if I'm reading that, you know, like how do I know if my sign is authorized? It says there's an exception
for publicly owned or authorized signs. So, we I don't understand the reason for authorized signs. Are those signs that have already been approved? approved is the way. It It just seems like it's not clear. It's not clear.
Sometimes when the signs in the rightway or overhangs the rightway, a board will send the applicant to the town and say you have to get the town's permission and then the town would grant a license essentially to allow that to be there.
So those would be like those would be like previously authorized signs or Well, some yeah, if somebody wants to hang a sign out like have a wade sign and and if the rightway goes right up to the door and I I don't know where in town it may be different, you know,
whether it's not always at the curb line. Okay. So, um if you wanted to enter into that rightway, then technically you would need the permission of the town to do that. Aren't the sidewalks the public right away in front of all of the on like on
Main Street for example? All right. So, every sign that extends over over the sidewalk um basically is in conflict with this with this position and with this section here. Well, then there's another
section. Yeah, you asked about the public right away. I don't know the answer to that directly because I know the street is, but then sometimes the sidewalk could be on somebody's private property and it's used, but there's no reason. It's more technical stuff, but yeah,
generally a sidewalk would be considered a rightway, but it may not be legally. I'm not saying that that that occurs in Belmont, but it does occur in other towns because then later on uh when we're talking about sign standards
[Music] um and it says in paragraph 6 286, every projecting sign shall be placed at least 10 ft above the public sidewalk over which it's erected and a distance not further than 18 in inches from the face
of the wall. So, aren't we kind of saying there that those signs are okay to put put over the public right away? I'm just wondering why we need to say one says public right away and the other says public sidewalk.
So, sidewalk is a sidewalk and they still need to be in compliance. So, we would have have to get that checked out. Does Piano Plaza count as a sidewalk or a public right of way? opening up
a pedal the fish or pan. I don't know. Well, there's a lot to do with piano closet. You may know. Do you know that? Yes, you probably did. The other thing I trouble Okay. The other thing I had an issue with too. I was reading the next paragraph and it
says, "Projecting signs shall be attached to walls with galvanized bolts at least 38 of an inch in diameter and shall be fixed in the wall by means of bolts extending through the wall. Right? And shall contain the properiz metal
washer or plate on the inside of the wall and should be designed and constructed to withstand wind pressure of not less than 40 lbs." blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm thinking to myself, so that means if I own a store and I want to put a sign on outside the store,
I'd have to drill through the through the wall all the way through to the inside of the store and put a and put a a bolt to hold the I don't know. It just seemed it just seemed like a lot of work to to do that. Again, I don't know.
Maybe that's the only acceptable way that a sign can be put to to uh you know withstand a wind pressure of 40 pounds. But it just seems like it's pretty ownorous to I would think there's probably a universal construction code
that we can reference rather than having it be sort of fixed. Certainly didn't make this up you have to do engineers required and things of that nature. They're very expensive. This is already in the code, but you know, as I
was reading it, I was like, "This sounds like a lot of work." You know, like if I just want to put a sign up that says, you know, I have to drill all the way through the wall. Maybe we should look at the construction code and see what what, you know, cuz I'm thinking what
most people would do is they'll put they'll put some kind of a black bolts or something or or something that will hold on to that. But maybe that's the only way we can, you know, assure that it's going to not blow away. But I I
have a question and request. Uh one is uh the question is how frequently does the sign committee meet? So we're just the signed ordinance committee. Um but the you mean the approval process? Yes.
They don't meet in person. I email them the application. they review it and send me back their comments. Oh, great. So, I don't have to worry about someone needing some type of expedited review or anything like that. Okay, good. Um, and then my request would be that once we
hammer out the exact language you want that we have a plain language version on the website with examples with whatever appropriate language that says that if there's any confusion, we refer to the, you know, peninsula. We're also, this
great idea, we're also have um working currently on giving some sort of pamphlet out to all of the businesses once we get this hammered out um so that they can understand what they can do um because things have changed. We we
really have changed quite a bit. Um it was very restrictive and we are um making it you know hopefully better for the business community. Uh my only comment would be on Well, I have a couple comments, but um on the
prohibited signs um at where we strike out no advertising flags, flutter flags or banners, right? So that's one of the main reasons we wanted to do this, right? But we also we still leave in that prohibited is pin wheels portable signs, which seems kind
of vague because I would think those sandwich boards are technically a portable sign. anything that's essentially a portable sign. We want to strike that from it as well since we're already sort of calling them out. Well, the banners and the flutter flags
are later on. I mean, we mentioned sandwich boards somewhere else, but we still say that technically a portable sign is banned. I think portable sign is a little too vague. I would strike it. Oh, yeah. No. And then a question too on this has been in existence for a while, but we
reference political signs and I I've always wondered if we're legally even allowed to enforce that uh based on political signs. It seems like we'd be trampling a lot of people's first amendment right place and manner rights.
And I think our ordinance I think this, you know, allows people to have a sign that says you can't have multiple signs. I think that's okay. How does it work for the like u you know stop Verizon signs, right? Technically, those are signs we have in the yard and they're
not political towards a candidate, but we don't actually reference them in this ordinance. Uh I don't think in any way. How what do we define political sign? Where is it? We we just put per candidate. We talk about per candidate.
So it is more election like so we have with with the owner's consent. Um and that they have to take it down 5 days following the election. Can't be in the public right away. Um
and that it's one per candidate per lot except for corner lots. um which would be allowed too. Well, I think you have two different issues there and you probably would have to let the Verizon sign in and the election
sign instead. You can't have a rule that says you can only talk about one topic. They just open the door up to like a sign form. Yes, I think that that would be another question is because we also have a
paragraph on construction, landscaping and other types of signs which we limit to um it's permitted for the duration of the work being performed and shall be removed within 14 days of completion of the work. So that that seems okay. Uh
but the the other category which is like a catch all you know like the Verizon signs or you know it could be anything. Uh do we do we think we should put a time limit on those or or have a number
limit because you know I could be very you know much involved in a lot of different things and I could put like 50 signs on my lawn and say you know support this don't support that. um you know uh do we want I mean right now the
way this is written we have no way of saying you know oh you got to stop doing that well I I mean is that currently a problem I don't think it is it's just not addressed in the ordinance at all so it is it's a it's a blind spot in this ordinance it's not it's not discussed
and maybe maybe we don't want to discuss it I don't know I don't think the council is in the business of being a ha you know no I I agree but we could that as an open item and we'll just like you said I don't think it's a problem at all. I've never seen it as a problem.
So, and the way that we're putting it um is that if you have more, you know, multiple candidates, so let's say you've got someone for governor and you also have someone for council, you you can do that. Of course, you do have a limited amount of time during that election period to have those signs up. those
must be removed 5 days following the election where um the Verizon signs I would think and hope kids stay. Yeah. And I don't want to get into like telling parents they have to take down their kids graduation signs and all
those things first if they should take it down. I think I mean I don't have a limit on my love. Sorry. Um, yeah. One other thing I saw which I thought was inconsistent, the portable sandwich
sign. It says, it reads portable sandwich board signs for display on sidewalks or on the curb line directly in front of the business advertised by the sign. This is allowed, I guess, provided there is no more than one such
sign per business. And then we going to add it is against the building facade or within 3 ft of the building and does not impede the passage of pedestrians or create a traffic hazard. So I'm looking at like well so what is it? Is it is it
on the curb line or is it have to be next to the building you know facade or it it seems like there's a inconsistency there. Well that's do we want them on the curb line or don't don't we want them on the curb line. So the site ordinance committee suggested within the
3 ft of the building and then the sign the planning board suggested the other one. So that's why I had a note there. Well I had a note there. Which one do you want to do? I got you. Yeah. I ideally we would like to be able to to
use both options. Um you know whatever works for because each business is different. So, if you aren't able to put it right to your, you know, right to your building, but you can use the curb line and that isn't in the way um of
another sign or something else that they be allowed to use that space. Once again, all of the sandwich board signs need to come inside after end of business. I mean, so maybe as I'm seeing it, maybe it should be either you put it against the building facade, right? So
you're right up against the building or you put it along the curve line. So this way there's a free free flow of traffic as because if you put it within 3 ft of the building, it's going to be like in the middle of the sidewalk. At least that's the way I see it. I wouldn't mind seeing language that makes
it clear that it has to be ADA compliant is one thing about pedestrians, but we want to make sure that say wheelchairs can get past, which might need more space than average pedestrian. I think we could build that in with the, you know, that there must be so many
feet of passageway between the, you know, the safe. Yeah. So, it should not impede the safe flow of traffic, right? I mean, that's only going to apply if they put it in the middle of the sidewalk because you're only allowed one one one sign. So, it's like either put it against your building and I don't
think any sidewalk is that narrow, for example, on Main Street that that's going to cause a problem. There's some narrow spots. Well, of course, if they Well, I won't even get into that. If you put it on the curb, you might have problem. What's that? If you put it on
the curb, the cars don't park right next to Yeah, that's true, too. That's, you know, that's why I feel like it's it would be good if we can offer that you can do both depending on, you
know, making sure that it's not either impeding traffic or blocking um a road sign or parking. We'll have to talk about that. Yeah. come up with a a reasonable it would be nice to say just
put it in a place that's reasonable so that people can pass you know but you know then we'll be doing it on a day by you know case by case basis but all right we'll I think we still need to talk about this a little more so then what what do we do with this if we need
to talk about this further because I know that the businesses certainly are looking for you know some guidance and our residents are, you know, wanting to know is this breaking code or, you know, are people going to, you know, Well, the issue the issue I think is mostly with
the the floorics, correct? And and I mean, it's not necessarily everything that's that's changed in here. And I was kind of just thinking like maybe we could just address that issue, you know, as an immediate like if we're going to allow flutter flags or we're not going
to allow them or we're going to allow them in certain instances, you know, we could move to to change that portion of the ordinance. Sure. Um, the way that we we are suggesting is flutter flags um are allowed provided they do not exceed 12 ft, are taken in at the close of
business hours, do not obstruct pedestrian traffic, are appropriate, no profanity, and are not tattered, ripped, or faded. Restaurants, including liquor license establishments and non-liquer lice establishments, should be limited to four banners and/or temporary
signs. That's the part that we have on on this. I don't know whether that's something that you want to move forward with now without revising the rest of it. Ria, I think we need to work on that wording a little bit because the first sentence seems to say that flutter flags
can only be used for purposes of advertising grand opening grand opening and grand openings and special events or sidewalks. So, I don't think that's really your intent. I think you tend to have flood flags all the time. Oh, wow.
Yeah. So, I think they probably should be not in the first sentence, but we have to talk about that. It wouldn't be hard. Yeah. I don't think there's anything in here that was glaring or extremely, you know, that we
missed that would prevent this from getting on the next. I don't think we need to solve every single, you know, conceivable situation with this sign. I mean, there's going to be things that come up that we, you know, we didn't prepare for in this, but the things that there's nothing here
that's blocking me from wanting to vote on this and get it done. But why don't we see if we can work on it before the next meeting and and at least hopefully we can get it on by then. That would be the goal. Try to work up something uh that we're all in agreement with and then and put it on and
and see how it flies. Okay. I appreciate that. All right. We'll work on it. Okay, this coming board year end reports on that. Yeah, I was very interested in the recommendation about passing an ordinance to establish an to
prohibit an establishment from closing down the business and abandoning the use on the property except for the operation of leases for telecommunication equipment on the roof. Um, now they know businesses should have to remain open and stipulate terms on open means. Um,
we can do that. But, um, I know there's two different issues that we're touching on here. One is our desire to have open businesses on Main Street and not permanently shuttered businesses. And the other is, you know, what's keeping them like that, which is the
proliferation of potential telecommunication equipment. I don't think that's that large of an issue right now, but it's an interesting point made by the board and I'd like us to consider it. Yeah, I I'm going to agree with with you, Councilman. There's a there are a couple
of issues I think where, you know, we see that some buildings are only in existence just because they're supporting telecommunications equipment and it could be for something else, right? I mean, this doesn't the way this is noted here, and granted, we're looking at a bullet
point, not a an ordinance, but it wouldn't stop something from going into disrepair, staying open, but being kept open by the telecommunications equipment, I don't know if there's much we can really do about that. What about some of the other
um things that they listed here to to review? like allow the grass area between the driveway strips to be considered pvious area. Stumps in between pa strips for a driveway should not be included in the
impervious coverage calculation. I would like to have a conversation with the environmental commission about the pvious first imp when uh when stones are used in other areas on the piece of property. Is it considered uh impervious coverage or
is it Yes, it is. Stones are not permitted except for planting beds. But if you interesting or a driveway and then in that case it's impervious. Okay.
If a person has a stone driveway that's considered impervious, right? It's considered the same as a concrete driveway. Correct. Something inconsistent in my mind there. But what do I know? We all agree. We
agree. There's the the papers. Um I know we're dealing with that now that that allow for um and I think should we should have more exceptions for them um that seem to work a little bit better. Yeah. I guess I guess my my thought goes
back to what the definition of imperous is and I'm sure there's been you know a lot of work done in that on the the difference between pvious and impervious but um maybe that's something we need to discuss a little further in terms of what is not
yeahous what is pvious so this suggestion actually has come up before and our prior engineering firm reviewed it with the planning board and came up with some recommendations and the ordinance was changed but it wasn't changed
enough because at that time the engineer didn't agree that stones are impervious. There there are a lot of opinions on what is and what is not impervious. A lot of it has to do with the base
underneath, you know, whether it's sand or whether it's, you know, well, well, then I could see and I could see there being, you know, guidance in that, but obviously stones on top of concrete. It's not it's not impervious. I mean, you know, it's not pvious, you know,
going to hit the concrete and just going to stay there. But yeah, I agree. It depends on what's under the the stones that uh Well, you have to look at that, right? Yeah. Some towns have pools. They say they're because they catch water and
other towns say they're impervious because they hold water. And when it comes down to this question, what is impervious is what the town says. There's one
town that has that says papers papers for her. I don't think we want to go that far. But you know this is the question. You don't have to look for the answer someplace and say oh that's
impervious because it's been found to be impervious. It is what it says. My suggestion is we take a look at this a little further and maybe bring it up at another meeting. Each each of these recommendations is going to have an
individual ordinance attached to it. One that really struck me off off the top of the list was the the request to have uh some pumps connected to the storm sewer. Now, I was under the impression we already had an ordinance for that for new construction. I thought that was
done several years ago. Now, this is a um certain scenario where there's some streets that have a pipe that go runs along the curb line and the board or some of the board members felt that if the street has that pipe, it
should be mandatory that the homeowner connect to it. Um, but speaking with DPW, it's not that many streets that actually have it. I'm waiting to get the list, but there's not that many, so I don't know if it'll be necessary. All right. Well, let's just uh schedule
this for another uh another meeting. In the meantime, we'll look at some of these individual uh requests here and hopefully we can come up with some answers for this board. More question. It references a proposed law regarding
backhouses on the state level. What is that? Yeah, I mean that that is something the state was going to mandate, but I don't know that that has happened. What is it? They wanted to say that you can um and
I'm paraphrasing very generally to encourage a affordable housing more affordable housing in a community that people could use their their uh backhouses and count them as affordable housing. They would have to do certain
things that we had worked that into what we were doing, did we not? I don't think we did. At this point, there was the law was that was circulating also said that if you wanted to build the back house, it wasn't a
non-conforming use. It would be a permitted use not and therefore not needing the use variance from the zoning board. It could the zoning officer could just approve it. That was one aspect of the law. Okay. which is kind of contrary to I think the general um feeling of the
town over the years was to eliminate some of the back houses as rentals and I think this is a twist now to to try to you know encourage that for affordable housing purposes. So we'll see what happens with that
legislation. Anything else? Okay. Anything else for um our workshop? Let's move on. Petitions. I did not receive any petitions.
I approve the minutes. And I have a motion to approve the minutes of the May 13th meeting. Motion. Second. Councilman Donovan. Yes. Mayor Benesco. Yes. Council Brando. Yes. Councilman Le. Yes.
boards of council. Councilwoman Donovan. Hi everyone. Um I read a list of names uh earlier this meeting and I want to say a special thank you to William Duffy. He uh posts periodically a short history of
all the men uh whose names we read um on our Facebook post. And I'll I'll note what I said this to the mayor, which is that when I first was asked to run and I said I will. ologist never joined Facebook. Um that this was perhaps the only noble use of social media. I know
that he is doing his best to to keep um these memories alive for their sake and and for their families. And so I wanted to say thank you. Um continue want to congratulate the chief and that our police department on a
successful unity tour. Um the environmental commission we are continuing the work on patchwork for wildlife which is recognizing yards using sustainable practices. Um they are very we are very excited to announce we received a sustainable jersey grant for
electric landscaping equipment for DPW that was long a lot of work and a long long time coming. Uh we are also completing the paperwork for an energy audit of the town buildings and I was asked to give a special thank you to our clerk April for that. Um and we also met
finally with the Army Corps of Engineers to discuss our big grant. Um this will take about a year of uh research and reporting and will result eventually in not just recommendations but multiple different plans with alternatives so that the bureau can make the best
decision going forward for Silver Lake that aligns with what our best uses as a town and um our financial projections. So we're very excited to start that process. Thank you. Council President Romero. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to thank everyone
involved in the seafood festival this year, especially John Walsh who helped us organize it once again. All the vendors, musicians, the volunteers, employees, DPW or police, fire, um EMS, and all of the businesses that participated. Uh the weather was
beautiful for our Memorial Day service yesterday, which was well attended and led by Colonel Bagley and the members of the VFW. With graduation right around the corner, I want to congratulate all our Belmar graduates and their families. We have about 25 graduating seniors who
requested Main Street banners that will soon be displayed on Main Street um the first week of June. Uh we've also scheduled our third annual Pride flag raising ceremony which will be held once again right in the front of the courtroom outside on June 3rd at 400
p.m. We'll have a speaker from Garden State Equality, several Belmar residents in the LGBTQ plus community, and musical performance by Belmar's Danny White. I have the pleasure of meeting our newest staff member today, Jenna Van Nest, who
will be taking over events and social media and is already hard at work. June will be a busy month at the library. The library is kicking off the summer with a live concert at the front lawn featuring Pat Rody Band. Thursday, June 5th at 6 p.m. Hot dogs and pizza
will be served free and open to the public. The next author time will be Wednesday, June 11th at 6 PM at the library, featuring author Anthony Morrow in his book, Caring for Carol by Caring for Me, a conversation on coping,
compassion, and inner strength when caregiving for loved ones. Um, then Beach Music Studios Kids Rock Band will perform live on the library front lawn on Saturday, June 14th at 12 noon. That is free and open to the public. And
registration for the library summer reading program for kids in K through 8 is now open. Parents can register their kids online at the library's website. Uh with the program kickoff party being a free concert for kids featuring Mr. Ray
on Saturday, June 21st at 11:00 a.m. Also free and open to all the kids. And finally, the library will host its next Junth celebration concert featuring featuring the John Lockenville Bach Orchestra and spoken word poetry artist
James C. Ellerby on Thursday, June 19th at 6 p.m. at the Taylor Pavilion. That is free and open to the public. E tickets are required and available at the library website, but please feel free to call the library directly if you are interested and they will register
you. if you if the online system is a little bit overwhelming. Uh the BMAR Housing Authority is working on getting their environmental study for their engineers uh for their facade project which is the final step in receiving the appropriations from HUD. Their next
meeting is June 2nd at 5:15 and all are welcome to attend. Thanks. Thank you, Councilman Levis. Thank you, mayor. Uh we had our Harbor Commission meeting last Tuesday. Um a couple things came up. The fuel dock is operational as
of Friday. We have gasoline. Kudos to uh Kevin and the whole team for uh keeping on everybody out of the wire right before Memorial Day weekend. And there's a there's a lot of boats out there. So, thank God we can provide some uh gasoline. One of the resolutions you'll see on the agenda tonight is to uh
actually charge a um basically a capital improvement surplus on top of the fuel docks. Um that's basically gas sales at the fuel dock. It's basically to cover some of those recover some of those costs associated with building a new fuel box. So, um, Harbor Commission voted to approve that resolution and
that's why we see it on the agenda tonight. Um, another thing that came up uh was parking in the vicinity of the Belmont Arts Council, specifically a lot of the commercial vehicles that are parked there overnight. So, I'll be meeting with Chief Scott to sort of discuss what some of the possibilities
we have there, whether it's drafting an ordinance or just finding a better way we can use that parking more efficiently. um so that the marina uh attendance is uh is better utilized. Um and that's all I have there. Okay. Thank you. Uh I have a few
things. Um on July 14th, the Belmar First Aid Squad is going to have a um ceremony uh commemorating the the plaque and the actually the stone with the plaque that used to be on the corner of
9th Avenue in front of the uh the buildings for the first day squad. And it has been moved over to the I called Monument Row between 12th and 13th. So if you've been in that area, you've probably seen it. It's been it's been up for a while and uh so they're going to
have a little ceremony on on the 14th starting at like 9:00 in the morning in June 14th. Yes. What did I say? May. You said July. July. I'm June. Uh so if you can make it that that's fine.
Um two things. One about um the parking that you just mentioned. I I think I think we need to speak about perhaps doing a bigger parking study for the for the burrow in terms of uh utilization. You know, are we using the our current
parking uh efficient efficiently? Um you know, there's there are limitations on parking on certain streets uh the whole issue of where commercial vehicles should park. So, I mean, I I think that in addition to what you were saying in
the meantime, I think that's part of a bigger bigger issue to see if we can maximize uh our parking that we already have and utilize it to to help the stores and and the residents in the area. So, I'm going to talk with uh
Kevin about that and we'll see what we can come up with and I'll keep you posted. And the last thing is um you know I walk my dog around the the neighborhood and I still see people throwing garbage in the street. You know the garbage being like limbs and
branches and and all kinds of yard waste and they put it right into the curb and it's like you know it interferes. If it rains a lot, all that stuff's going to get washed away or if the if the um street cleaner comes by. I don't know
if it'll go through that or it goes around it, but it's just not supposed to be, you know, and I see it at the beginning of the month because usually the beginning of the month the DPW will go around and we'll pick up branches and any kind of debris that's there, but I
see it, you know, starting right in the middle of the month. And so that stuff is there for like weeks. So, you know, just a reminder uh to to not do that. Keep it on your curb if you if you need to until the first week comes, but you know, I'm
just asking people to be more aware of of that. The curb is not the the trash bin for our yard waste. So, I would appreciate that. Um and other than that, I think we have a You want to do the the
proclamation now? We have a proclamation for the um the pride month celebration and we will be I will be reading this again on uh what was it the four the third the third. Yes. Okay. The proclamation is recognizing June
2025 as Pride Month. Whereas the mayor and council of the Burough of Belmar recognizes and proclaims the month of June 2025 as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, and queer plus pride month throughout the burrow. And whereas
the burrow of Belmar joins the county of Mammoth to observe Pride Month with a pride flag raising ceremony to honor the history of the LGBTQ plus liberation movement and to support the rights of all citizens to experience equality and freedom from discrimination. And whereas
the rainbow flag is widely recognized as a symbol of pride, inclusion, and support for social movements that advocate for the LGBTQ plus people in society. And whereas all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and
rights, LGBTQ plus individuals have had immeasurable impact to the cultural, civic, and economic successes of our country. And whereas the burrow of Belmar is committed to support visibility, dignity, and equality for LGBT LGBTQ plus people in our diverse
community. While society at large increasingly supports the LGBTQ plus equality, it is essential to acknowledge that the need for education and awareness remains vital to end discrimination and prejudice. And whereas this nation was founded on the
principle that every individual has infinite dignity and worth. And the mayor and council call upon the people of Belmar to embrace this principle and work to eliminate prejudice everywhere it exists. And whereas celebration pride month influences awareness and provides
support and advocacy for Mammoth County's LGBTQ plus community and it is an opportunity to take action and engage in dialogue to strengthen alliances, build acceptance, and advance equal rights. Now therefore be it resolved the
mayor and the council of the burrow of Belmar hereby proclaims the month of June 2025 as pride month in support of the LGBTQ plus community. Be it further resolved that the rainbow flag will be raised during the month of June recognizing all of the LGBTQ plus
residents whose influential and lasting contributions to our neighborhoods make the burrow of Belmar a vibrant community in which to live, work, and visit. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, now we're going to move on to the
public session for the resolutions. If anyone has a comment or question about a resolution, please step forward, state your name and address. I I just want to point out that there are uh we're going from resolution 95 to to
111. the the first up to resolution 108 is on the consent agenda and resolutions 109, 110 and 111 will have separate votes but the public session for all of the
resolutions including the ones that I just mentioned is now. All right. So there will be no separate um public session for the ones that we're going to be taking individual votes on. Okay. I'm sorry. You can continue. Buckling first Avenue. Um the one I think Mark you
might have explained it, but the one about the uh marina the first one the 225 100 to change the order and degree. What's that about? I She's You're talking about the um the supplemental agreement for the project.
Yes. Additional um Yeah, there was additional work that had to be done. Uh, I don't know exactly what it was. I don't know, Kevin, if you recall what what work that was. We're trying to get as much work done while we have the the equipment here. So, uh, I think there
was something. Are we increasing the cost of it for additional work? We have to pay additional money. Okay. So, that would be in a resolution to add an additional piling at the TH. Right. Right.
When they when they were were trying to replace this the when they were trying to replace the te of hock while the barge was there, they needed two pilings, one on each end to secure because when they started started looking at it, it was in a lot better shape than they thought. But by
securing putting pilings at both ends really tightened it up. So one was an additional piling and had to be added and then the rest is fuel stuff. But I mean the the resolution that you're referring to is uh 104 and that's for the fuel rates at the
marine. No, she was referring to I was talking I was talking about 100. Yeah, 100. We added more cost to No, the resolution I was referring to was for the fuel rates. Uh the other one is um I think it's 108. It's for the and
it says the the liquor license and then with broad package privilege. Does that mean people can buy liquor in there and like is that like packaged goods or am I wrong 108 225 108? Some liquor licenses
are broad C licenses and they do have that package um privilege. That's it. Um, we don't change those. Um, they are historical and we don't have the ability to to
change the nature of that license. But, um, yeah, I I I'm I'm assuming you're correct, but I I didn't know there was broad C on that, but yeah, that's what that would mean. Yeah, it says broad package privilege license. So So that means people can go into Lulchce Vita
and buy liquor and leave like like a liquor store. Well, There there are requirements. There are regulations. You you may have seen them like the Spirits Spirits 76 bars around here. I think there's a little teeny bar and then they sell all the liquor on the
wall. All the all the liquor has to be on a wall displayed. You can't have u you can't have aisles and things like a like a a buy right or something like that. Do you know if this has been going on? Because I mean I live right there and I I I just never heard this. I don't
I don't know if they if they have been selling anything, but they're not set up for it because um No, I I understand. I've been in places where you can buy liquor and this is not legit is not it. So, I just wanted to
know is this new? Is this something they're No, it's not new. It's actually old. They actually all se licenses now do not have that, but that's a that's an old license. So, most likely they won't do it. I I don't I haven't been there a lot,
but I don't think I just I just want to like Is it a liquor store now on top of a restaurant and everything else? Yeah. Like Captain Karns had a broad sea. They had the bar and then you walk through the back door then they had the liquor there. It was all on the wall. So that
there there are other requirements. They're not operating that way. No from my understanding of their operation. But we just have to leave this in there and Yes. Okay, thank you. Anyone
else? Oh, Eugene Kramer, Fourth Avenue. Resolution 2025-96 establishing paid parking areas. Um, I guess I'm going to say I'm a
little bit disappointed. Uh there was p published in the co-star uh there was a summary of uh utilities in town and um the revenue for the parking utility
um I think a year ago was $137,000 and u the revenue um proposed in the new budget I believe is $33,000. It was a budget uh document published on on May 1st. Um I'll begin
with you. I'm very disappointed in that. Um the number being so low, I mean, we have 1.3 miles of beachfront and u of course the marina
and river avenue. Uh that number seems to be extremely low and it said that there were five employees uh with that uh parking utility. Um is there a limit on the number of
u white what they used to call white paper parking permits. um especially down at the beachfront where people are given authorization to park and not have to
pay to to answer your question. Um I think and again you know our chief financial officer isn't here but what's in the budget is not necessarily what was collected from the paid parking. Okay,
that is just a reflection of what is being budgeted for the the parking authority, but we have and I I thought it was on the uh I thought it was on the internet, but we have uh what's it every every week we get a listing of of the
revenue that's being taken in from the paid parking and it you have to remember that obviously the the paid parking during beach hours on the east side of Main Street that goes to the beach fund. Okay, that does not go into the burrows
uh revenue stream. Uh anything around the lake does uh anything from, you know, around here or in the marina, all that stuff comes into the into the burrow and the parking along the the boardwalk after hours when the beach is
closed, that also comes into the into the burrow. So, um, the money that you're seeing in the in the budget is not a reflection of how much money is being taken in. Okay. Okay. Just that's it. I'll see if we can get that. I I
mentioned that at another meeting one time and I don't think I uh I don't think we got it up there, but we we do have a report that shows us, you know, with all the different parking sections that we have, how much revenue is being taken in week by week by week. Okay.
Thank you. Um, also other parking uh lots in the town. Um, I don't in the listing here uh I don't see the 23 parking spaces that are on 10th Avenue
uh underneath the plaza uh building. Uh that was a condition of approval that goes 23. There used to be a surface parking lot right by the railroad there that I had used for years. Uh but now
uh as a condition of the approval of the plaza uh there's still there are 23 spaces uh in in the ground level parking area
that uh perhaps that should be um added as a paid paybyplay parking area uh to generate additional revenue for the town. Well, we we can definitely consider that. I mean, that might be
another aspect of our our parking study that we do uh to see if there in addition to that, there may be a few other areas where um pay parking could be included at least for the summer months. Um so, we'll take that into account. Definitely. And thank you very
much. You're welcome. Well, this is very highly highly directional microphone unlike what you're using here. Um, I was I was going to say I was very happy to see that flashing sign before the seafood festival. I was very happy
to see that uh that the burrow had implemented paid parking at least out by that area there. Unfortunately, the seafood festival had uh no handicap parking. Um, moving on here to
other items. Uh, the uh talking about uh Americans with Disability Act, uh, I drove past DJs the other day. And if if you don't mind, if it's just a general
comment you want to make, can you keep it to the end of the meeting? But this is this is these are comments just on the resolutions that we have now. Okay. Okay. Uh 2025- 105. This deliver license um for DJs. Um there is no uh not in compliance
with the Americans with Disability Act. There is no handicap parking there except perhaps when they come out of there they're handicapped. The um 2025-108 this is for Locosia Vita. Likewise they have a parking lot there
and there is no handicap parking. Okay. Um this is mayor 2025-109. Um that's regarding um redevelopment. Um is it is the public
going to be uh that's being separated out of the consent agenda? Yes. Okay. Yes. But this is the time to comment. There will not be a separate comment section for that. uh resolution 20 2025-109 if you would take that
out actually uh this is in the forward I all the whereases and if you would go down to whereas number four I excuse me I think this is a typo
Here it says uh give a little bit of history here and it says other properties and area in need a redevelopment. I think you need
the word of. Okay, I should be off. Excuse me. Whereas number five um it goes on here the
expanded seapport redevelopment area and together with the original se redevelopment seapport redevelopment area should be area instead of R&D. Okay, please correct that.
Uh I wanted to mention that there's and perhaps um it's not a general comment however this particular these particular lots are part of the uh expanded
seapport redevelopment area they are non combination a big difference between in other words the expanded redevelopment area was a targeted towards specific
properties and the rest of the redevelopment area that was established before the expanded redevelopment area. There's still condom the burough still has condemnation powers there. Um in
fact u I believe condemnation is easier within the redevelopment area. I'm mentioning that because um excuse me the public had mentioned excuse me the public had mentioned a
compelling need for parking and um the burrow in order to rectify that developing problem um would the to nobody's going to sell their property
if they can develop it. U I I think that the council should give some thought to in order to solve the coming parking problem to use condemnation.
I can if I can just comment with that though the uh the thing about condemnation is we still have to pay for it. We don't get it for free. Absolutely. So that's that's that's a big issue. I don't think we have any plans at the at this time to
condemn any properties, but as you said, it's certainly something that's one of the options that's out there. Yeah. Excuse me. Perhaps the burrow perhaps perhaps the burrow should identify uh those property where where it does have
condemnation power. And I I think you will actually find if you take a close look that a lot of that may very well be property that the property had that the bureau had given away for $1. Okay.
paragraph uh paragraph, excuse me, whereas number 10 um developed the property with a a mixed use uh development. uh last uh CAFRA
application that I saw for this property, they're asking for a major modification and they're asking only for residential use. I guess what would have to be checked here is to see whether u a
purely residential development is permitted in the redevelopment uh area. Okay, that's that's it for this particular to resolution 2025-110. uh second where
uh after New Jersey Supreme Court decision in in re adoption I believe that's a type of laws take that out okay we don't want an extra in in there just
well I think it's in the title of the case injury So, it should be in in I I think I'm not an English expert, but I guess it could go either way because if it was called Smith versus Jones, you could say New Jersey Supreme Court decision. Smith
versus Jones. You would have to say in Smith versus Jones. Gotcha. It's a stylistic. Yes, Mayor Right. I think you're going to have to explain this last comment. U at the end of the
resolution, it says, "Mayor Buckesco offered the above resolution and moved its adoption seconded by Councilwoman Kenny and adopted by the following vote.
I don't think we did this one already. That's going to have to be taken out. That's probably referring to a previous one that we did maybe at the last meeting. We'll take that out. Yes, that gets updated after they vote tonight.
Obviously, Councilwoman Kenny will be uh will be second. We'll correct that. Okay. All right. Thank you. Would anyone else like to make a comment? Okay. I have a motion to close the
public session. Make a motion. Second. All in favor? I I have a motion to approve the resolutions as listed on the consent agenda. I'll make the motion. Second. Councilman Donovan. Yes. Mayor Musco.
Yes. Council Romero. Yes. Councilman Le. Yes. Next is resolution 2025109. A resolution of the burrow of Belmar designating a redeveloper for the property identified as block 87 lots 1, two, and three on the tax map of the
burrow within the Seapport redevelopment area and authorizing the execution of a redevelopment agreement. Do I have a motion to offer this resolution? I'll make a motion. Second. Excuse me, April. If I could just note for the record, those comments
that Mr. Beamer made should be um noted and we'll send a revised resolution. So, all of them as noted on the record will be incorporated and revised in a resolution that we'll send over. Can I ask a question? Actually, I'm sorry. Uh I I noticed this while Mr.
Kmer was speaking about uh 110. There's a note that says that if any article section while the law of this ordinance is for any reason held to be unconstitutional or invalid, such decisions shall not affect the remaining
portions of this ordinance and they shall remain in which resolution is that I don't have the numbers that you know I'm going to retract my question upon rereading it. I've answered my own question so never mind. Sorry about that.
Councilman Donovan. Yes. Mayor Busco, yes. Councilman Rono, yes. Councilman Levis, yes. Okay. Next is resolution 202510, a resolution endorsing the Burough Belvar's housing element and fair share plan. We have a
motion to offer this resolution. Motion. Second. Councilman Donovan. Yes. Mayor Ble. Yes. Councilman Rono. Yes. Councilman Le. Yes. And last one is resolution 2025111 a resolution authorizing the
issuance of a club license to the order of friendly sun for a period ending June 30th 2026. We have a motion to offer this resolution. Make the motion. Second. Counciloman Donovan. Yes. Mayor Bethco. Yes. Counciloman Romero. Yes. Councilman
Leus. Uh next we have ordinances. Uh first one is ordinance 202510 an ordinance amending and supplementing the burough code to add section 40-7.34 entitled affordable housing mandatory set aside requirement. We have
a motion to offer for first reading and introduction. I'll make the motioning that have a couple amendments to this ordinance as well. So in section 1A um removing from the second line that
reads sec single family attached residential development um removing that is approvable and developable as defined at NJAC [Music] 593-1.3. So I'll make that revision and send you the revised version of the
ordinance tomorrow. What was that? What section was that that's being amended? I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't catch it. You were. So, uh section one a and then removing in the second line that is approvable and
developable as defined at NJAC 593-1.3. Those are the former Makoa regulations. Okay. I also will have an amendment to the um set aside ordinance, but I'll come back to that.
Okay, I guess we're up to comments. No, I just need a second. I I just need second. Yes. No comments. Councilman Don, yes. Mayor Fusco, yes. Council Moniro, yes.
Councilman Le, yes. Next is ordinance 202511, an ordinance amending chapter 40, article 5, zoning districts of number five general ordinances creating new overlay zoning district. Do you have a motion to offer for first reading and introduction? We have an amendment.
Yes. Uh so in section B uh where it says permitted principal uses mixed use A um the third line down where it reads any mixeduse development requires a mandatory 20% set aside ordinance set aside for affordable
housing um adding any mixeduse development. This is the language that's going to be added with five or more dwelling units requires a mandatory set aside for affordable housing. So, we'll make that amendment and send that to you as well.
You have a motion to offer this ordinance as amended. I'll make a motion. Second. Councilman Donovan. Yes. Mayor Basco. Yes. Councilman Rosner. Yes. Councilman Le. Yes. Next is ordinance 202512, an
ordinance amending chapter 40, article 5, zoning districts of the revised general ordinances creating an affordable housing zoning district. We have a motion to offer for first reading and introduction. Motion second.
Counciloman Donovan, yes. Mayor Benusco, yes. Councilman Randiro, yes. Councilman Leven, yes. And last one, uh, ordinance 202513, an ordinance, um, approving the application for a long-term tax exemption and authorizing
the execution of a financial agreement. We have a motion to offer for first reading and introduction. A motion. Second. Councilwoman Donovan? Yes. Mayor Mcflesco? Yes. Counciloman Randero? Yes. Council Ru, yes. Okay. Now, now we're on
to the public session. Please remember to state your name and address before speaking. I'm going to ask people to limit their comments to five minutes, please. Come on. We're wasting time.
Speaking of waste hanger 18th and B, um couple things on workshops. Okay, this was our third workshop for the I'm going to say the flagger flags. Okay. Um, which the flutter flags turned into revising the
sign whole ordinance thing which committee was kind of there to more so look towards the flutter flags not to reinvent the world that they didn't invent to begin with. Okay. So, Maria, thank you very much for everything that you have done and
everybody that has been at the meetings to basically sit here and say let's review it some more. Okay. Um, the stuff is available for people to see. Like we have stuff available. We can put questions before you before we get to the meeting. Maybe this stuff can be
reviewed and come back to a sign committee meeting um or something like that. I know you can all meet together, but um just to save some time basically. Okay. And as far as the zone well still on the sign, who is the zoning officer
that it keeps referring to in the sign committee? Ted Bianci. So, it's the zoning officer, Ted Bianci, is gonna be doing that. Okay. So, once Ted approves this or does that or whatever, then who's going to be looking to see that it's done
properly? Is that code enforcement then? At that point, because we we didn't mention we didn't mention code enforcement. So, that'll maybe be another item for the next meeting that we have or something because code enforcement's got to get in there somewhere. It's not just zoning because
planning comes up with it but zoning's approving it which find I find interesting. Okay. Well, it's in the code so they enforce what's in the code. Okay. In its simplest form. Okay. We'll work
on that. All right. Clear. The zoning um the list of recommendations came out on April 15th. We're already almost into our sixth month. Okay. Um, we're still waiting for people to realize that grass, water can get through grass when
they have the stones or the pavement or whatever in the driveways. So maybe like with you said with the um signs, you're going to look at the little piece of it and get something done. Maybe we can get something done with the other pieces also. Okay. Not everything, but you know, it's it's people have come before
spending a lot of money trying to get three more inches over this side so that they're not needing a bigger variance or this or that or the other thing. And that grass is grass and it's in between. So, let's bring that back to I guess the planning board that has to determine
that so that the zoning board can keep moving forward so that residents want to live here. And last but not least, thank you very much for eliminating the kindergarten toilets in ladies room. I'm hoping to mend them, too. Thank you.
You're welcome. Do you have comments? Jean Kramer, I just have a question. Are we fidating our water here in town now? We're certainly putting a lot of chlorine in it, but um um I'm just
curious about the floor. I'm not really prepared to answer that. I don't know to be honest with you. We'd have to look into get back to you. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. Tony Almida, 419 10th A
Delmare. Good afternoon. Um, I am the vice chair of the drawing board and uh I enjoy the company of my comrades. Some of which you will hear today. I'm not here to bore you with these details, but as Claire said, there are some of these modifications that have been on this
list for two or three years. They should be addressed because they would be in the best interest of the municipality and the end user specifically. Uh to to dictate what Claire said, if you can envision a lot of these new construction homes that are being built, they have
park strips going up the driveway right in between the per let's get this correct permeable pavers which we've identified as a municipality. Anything considered in between those grass or
stone is considered 100% lot coverage. Why incur the cost to do a strip of permeable pavers if you get a 50% credit if you just did it straight across? Makes no sense. So there's some other nuances in our zoning that would benefit
definitely the municipality but also the end user. I volunteer my time to meet with you individually if necessary or we can maybe do uh at the end of one of our meetings an executive session or maybe a meeting here in executive session. We're
all for that. Um I did not have an opportunity to review these in their retirey. and I apologize but specifically ordinance 2025-11 Burough Belmar County Lamoth ordinance amending chapter 40 article V
zoning districts of the revised general ordinances of the Burough Belmar creating a new overlay zoning district. Um I took the opportunity to read it here this evening. I just wanted some clarification if we know is this this is
Main Street in what sections in what blocks is there an attached map or anything that's going to identify this area? Yeah. And and just so you know, this will be, you know, discussed even further at the next meeting. At the
second at the second reading, you know, members of the public will be able to get up and make comments on each of these ordinances. Right. But I believe and and you can correct me if I'm wrong on our attorney. It's the it's Main Street uh going uh to the tracks. What's
that? West of Main Street to to the tracks and east of Main Street for for what? I don't know the designation how I guess it's to the residential area where that where that lot ends, right?
So it's main west. It's west of Maine and some of and some east and some east. Yeah. Just, you know, taking a look a quick look at my phone and looking at the tax maps, there are not many at all 50 foot wide by 125 foot box in
depth. So, you know, just just noted that's highly unlikely. There's not a lot of those. Um, and then I couldn't help but notice here, why are we dictating that all affordable housing units must and shall be two or
threebedroom units? Because those are U-Hack requirements. That's what those those are what qualify as uh satisfying the obligation. Okay. So, if a developer comes and he wants to put five units on a conforming lot and
they're all onebedroom, in order for him to meet his affordable housing mandate, he has to create a two or threebedroom unit. Correct. They'll have to be compliant with UAC requirements. Yes. No matter what. No matter what. No matter what. And don't do we think five is too
low of a number? I mean, if you can picture a a building and Look, you know, if you have a building where there's five units in it, so you're saying floors three and two are going to have onebedroom units, but then you're going
the whole first floor, if you will, above parking or maybe not, that's not included in this would have to encompass the entire floor to meet one affordable housing unit. The five unit minimum is is the statewide generally what's
accepted statewide. Gotcha. So that implies so then this two or threebedroom unit verbiage should then also be passed on the ordinance uh 2010
and 2012 then right 2010 we did incorporate it in effect with those ordinances or it's you know ma'am I don't need clarification it's just Yeah, it will be
consistent throughout. And again, yeah, these you'll have there'll be public comment uh and when there's the final adoption, but yes, it will be a consistent um below five units. There's no affordable housing set aside mandatory requirement and above five units, it will be consistent throughout
all the ordinances. Okay. And so just just for matter of record, I would think then if we had a 50x 125 ft lot that the developer would consider putting a five bed five units, he'd be better off doing four units at two bedrooms and not have
to meet his mandatory obligation for affordable housing. That would be a determination that a redeveloper would make. They're going to go that route. So all right. Um, no other comments at this time. Thank you for your efforts. Seafood festival was awesome. Appreciate
you guys. Oh, one more. I'm sorry. And hopefully I didn't extend five minutes. Does anybody know where the speed check signs came from? Specifically, I think there's one on 10th down on B and there might be one on 12th down on B. As
you're driving, the digital shows your speed. There's one on. Yeah. Where do they come? How much do they cost you? Um they are when we ballpark they're I believe they were um we got three we got a deal
three for $9,000. So they're anywhere from 3 to 4,000. So they're expensive and then there's a labor cost for the municipality and department of public works to put those up. We also have we have three portable ones that we move around that on a schedule town and then we also have two on trailers. So those
five get moved around town. the ones that are on P they're stationary and chief if you don't mind how did you come up with the streets and locations on where they would be put um just uh there's requirements and restrictions on
where you can put them to be so far from an intersection they have to be so far from driveways so it was kind of like we had to find areas that there was nothing on either side to put them there um obviously 16th Avenue or um streets that we receive a
lot of speeding complaints on and heavy. Yeah, that's why we put them there. Um, we didn't purchase any last year, but um, we might purchasing some more this year. I think they're great. Um, if they're compliant or not, my
recommendation, what do I know? I'm not a traffic study guy or a motorist. What I have noticed is that I live on Death Avenue. We also own a house on E. Okay. What I have noticed is that if these signs could be on the
blocks E and D closer to Maine, it will set the tone for the traveler upon entering into the neighborhoods where my intersection although been a significant improvement by the stop sign verbiage that's gone out that I mean it's a
blessing. It was one of the best things ever done. You know, I could see from my port the tail end of the car go up because they saw the on. So, it's just a recommendation. If we had those, they're fantastic. I think everybody in our town loves them. And if we can move them
closer to Maine to set the tone, specifically in a school district, that might help the end user say, "Wait a minute. It's 25 here. I know I got to go 25 to the beach." Thanks for all you do. Appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you. Anyone
else call? Can I have a motion to close the public session and adjourn the meeting? I'll make the motion. Second. All in favor?