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that um so um call meeting to order and I would like to um ask for a vote to accept the minutes from the June meeting which we sent out the other day to have them. All in favor? >> Yes. >> Opposed? >> No.

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>> Okay, we're good. Uh first up is the community energy plan and the energy audit. So I'm asking what's going on with all that. >> So the energy plan brought before the council uh last week. it was last week and uh the resolution was approved. So,

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we're good to go with the energy plan. And now I'll be I was thinking of prioritizing what's there and kind of bucketing key areas if anyone is interested then in potentially taking a lead in in one of the areas within the plan because there's a number of them.

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There's probably 10 different areas of focus. And what we require is really just kind of being the chairperson to um get the right resources in the town to elevate the conversation with anybody at the burrow that um you know could be uh

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potentially working on it and then really just rally the team to focus forward on some of these projects because we have a really good plan now but I think it's going to take us helping to get the resources. We've identified in the plan who within the burrow the resources should be right. So

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based on what is required, who would be the recommendation, but it's really now bringing enough worker to them and kind of leading it. So I was planning on doing that with the energy plan and we're good with that. We had a grant for that. So we now met the grant requirements. We have that all approved.

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And then the audit um the audit was complete and we should have the f the draft of the plan at the end of the month. So we'll all be able to take a look at that and then we need to decide who would like to be at that meeting. So she said typically it is um DPW, the

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mayor, anybody that would have an interest in understanding obviously that there's financial implications and to benefit the town. And so we want to make sure we get the right group of people together um to listen to the plan and to think about what the recommendations are. >> When you have an idea when you're ready, just let me know and email me and I'll

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loop in all the cool. >> Yeah. And what we should have in that is a a you know cost analysis to see what benefit it would be um what kind of return it would deliver and then potential areas to find. Perfect.

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Okay. With all the things going on in the town, uh how do these things stack up with the other priorities? Cuz you got the lake, you've got energy arts, you got sewers, and how much should we expect, you know, to be able to to be able to achieve some of these things in

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this audit plan and uh and in the C plan? >> That's a good question. And so I was just saying um you know, I've been in meetings all week. So, there's things that are incredibly urgent, have to be solved right now, like the water sewer utility. Um, and then there's other

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things. Um, but that doesn't mean we can't walk and shoot them at the same time. It doesn't mean we can't get the ball rolling. So, I've already connected Diane with Joe, who's a new VA, and they're going to meet. What I told him, too, is like schedule with you. If I can make it, I will. If not, >> but what is incredible is being in

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meetings now with people who are doers just like >> oh good this is being handled. >> Awesome. >> Fantastic. So I think you'll you'll find that and I think we'll we'll have a lot of avenues pushing forward that we haven't had before. >> Um so and I think the audit that's a perfect example of where we're looking

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to find more money in the budget and that's a great great way to do it. So I'm really happy to connect you with our new financial team to to push it forward. Yeah, I think I think the savings could be there, right? So, be really significant. And then even on the energy side, there's some significant

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savings to residents as well. So, they've got some case studies that they've done in the past by implementing a number of initiatives just to raise awareness on other ways to find ways to support your energy usage in the house. So, that could actually, you know, be an important that's where I said we need to

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prioritize, right? We look at the list, we know what the strategic plan is. We did a prioritization already but maybe we decide what comes forward and what comes you know pushes back a little bit based on the resources. So again, within the plant, does anyone have to do work

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like in the town? Does like a DPW person have to do work? Does an office person have to do work? Because that's where I think the challenge would be. If the administrator, the BA comes in, they can say we're doing all these things. I'm more worried about will do they have the bandwidth at the next level to be able

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to execute on these things giving everything else that's going on because every time I speak to anybody, they just say how busy they are. >> Yep. So, so we based a lot of the priorities on conversations with the town, the burrow. Keep saying town because they came from a town that's bur

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and so we had conversations. So, these were elevated as the top priorities for many people in the burrow. Um, obviously when whoever is responsible for having that conversation needs to sit down and say where does this fit within your priority now and then then come back to us and say it doesn't look like it's

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going to be a priority where it is. things like training in um for uh um through the fire department. Um it's a way to get training at no cost. So there's some things that they wanted to do that are now part of this that they can get that would actually save them

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money. So it may be more important to them, but we basically chose these things based on these conversations. And I think it's always important to obviously re go back to them and say, where does this fit now, but >> some of them hopefully, >> you know, I'm just skeptical after three

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years of working on the lake to getting the support needed to implement things. So I'm hoping that you change them. And you have to understand why >> I 100% do and that's why I like mentioned I'm like the like I think what was funny is I'm used to being in meetings and then being like okay we

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have all these conversations and now I'm going to do all of these 10 things >> and they're both looking at me like that's our job you know. Oh, okay. That's different. All right, >> great. Um and hopefully you see that

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manifesting really soon externally. I my big thing is I've been disappointed in getting support. So I don't want to get over too excited about getting support and then having done because I look at the energy plan. I look at those activities and they're implementable. There's not anything there that >> the longer term ones that require

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capital and things like that I can understand but the ones that you prioritize saying what can be done earlier and what needs to be done can be done if we can get the if we get people resources to work on. So good. >> Yeah. And I think some of it is funding too, right? So we were able to write the funding for the audit. that was

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technically quoted as $150,000. So hopefully in this energy plan by furthering these conversations, we'll find out where do we need actual resources versus where we can get someone like an agency. If it's part of the grant, they might be able to hire someone to do that. So maybe it's a way

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to offset some. Yeah. >> Okay. Um the next item on the agenda is communications and our website. So couple things. One is um Angie, who's a member of the commission, had to kind of take a step back from the website. So,

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I'm going to try to get more from her as to how I can edit the website and post content on the website until she's able to step back in because she did a really great job, I think, setting it up. It's awesome. >> And so, I want to, you know, maintain that continuity with her, but allow her

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the time she needs to step back. Um, so I'm going to work on that. But just to reiterate, we have um an email address now, belar.com email address for the environmental commission. So that's should be up on the site. I'll make sure that it is. Um we talked last time about

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linking the Facebook page to Instagram and I think you were having some stumble. >> Well, we spoke about it and then we just we both dropped the ball and >> I guess she's busy. >> Yeah, she's got a family issue so it's just But maybe we could work it out >> because I tried doing it. It's just I

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can't and she's like, "I can walk you through it." I'm like, "Okay." We just know that I >> I'll reach out to her and just ask her that specific question. >> Good. Yeah. >> So, one of the questions in the communication piece, I think we've talked about this before, Diane, is >> is there a place for a repository for

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the work you do? So, we often go try to find this stuff. So, for example, the energy plan, it's done. >> It's sitting on my computer. You have a copy. You know, people have copies. But >> there's a shortterm answer. We have a shared Google Drive. Okay. So, we can That's where all the Silver Lake stuff is on Google Drive. We could just set up

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another file on that and just dump it in there. >> But it might be nice too in any kind of communication we have on Facebook and Well, I think you can pull Facebook and you can pull Instagram, right? Your posts >> what? >> No, I'm just saying for like to have that repository instead of trying to

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replicate like we'll need to go for the um sustainable jersey, we'll have those posts, but you can pull it based on history. Yep. >> And I'm assuming we can do that. The only problem is that the the Facebook and Instagram aren't linked. If you It's so much easier if you can just make a post and it goes to both at the same

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time as it is now. I have to make one for Facebook, one for Instagram. >> Okay. >> And I focus on Facebook because we have more people there and there's much more engagement there. >> Okay. >> All right. So, I'll put everything out there. >> I'll do is I'll contact Colleen. Do you have access to that?

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>> All right. So, you can create your own folders on there then. All right. So, if you need >> I didn't know that's where we're officially put. I didn't know what it but that's a good idea. >> I guess anything that we're working on like all the stuff from from the plant uh you know the effort with the roots and that kind of stuff we should put all

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that like the final copies of everything out there. So >> this goes back to the sustainable Jersey certification because we know by next year we're going to have to find all this stuff. So if we put we keep it together now we'll be able to access it when we need it. >> The email address. Do you have a log to

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the burrow like Gmail or is it just that like that burrow email stuff is being forwarded to like your address? >> I have a log into the burrow. >> So does that mean you also can do the burrow drive? >> I didn't know there was a burrow drive. >> Well yeah like usually with Google it's like the suite right? So like when I log

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into the burrow email um >> I you know click in the upright corner where there's like the grid and one of the options is drive. So I have things on the drive and I'm just wondering if it makes sense especially since technically this is all burrow >> things to have it on also >> because a lot of stuff gets big too a

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lot of the files are starting to get really big and even for the Google drive. >> Yeah. >> So just to see the next time you log in you have access to drives because >> if I do and that's something I can share then I'll just share it and we can all do >> I I think that would be a better place. These are the town these are town

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documents. So although town documents on the town drive, the stuff that we did around the lake was just information gathering. >> You need to put like the final out there. >> Yeah. But there's no, you know, we should probably taking some stuff that's on the on the drive and putting in uh

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from the lake on there too. Um >> Okay. >> Do it. So if you if you do it, if you can >> I will do my best if I'm getting good at this. >> I'm happy to do it. I'm happy. I'm happy. >> If you are take all the help you can offer. Yes. >> Yes. If I if you do it, I'll go through

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and I'll mark the files. I'll just tell you which files should be dropped into there that that should be archived with the town for future generations. >> We don't need everything. There's a lot. >> No, no, you No, you would just need like the summary things army course, you know, any army corps reports to us or

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anything like that. You wouldn't need any of the information that we put in there. What's nice too is then you can just give access to people instead of having to share it like you can give the VA access and this is where everything >> engineer >> what engineer >> exactly although he doesn't have a burrow email but you can still give

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people access to it drive without >> yeah it just be remarkable if the old times we've given that access to people if anyone else would look at it straight actually >> there you go >> I'm sorry I'm a little bit I don't know

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It's a new day, Gary. >> I think it's the weather. It's still I was stuck in the rain. >> I'll tell you, I I had this call. I always take the first week of July off always for years now. And I couldn't this year because my company was going through a merger and it was big July one

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date. So, I was like, push it back. This was March now. I planned this. And then all of a sudden, like all of this happened and I was just like I was like, I have a two-hour time slot on this day where I can go to the beach. I'm doing it. And then it was raining. I was like, But anyway, I don't really have this not

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that's not a big problem. >> Um, okay. So, the other thing about communication is the San Janeiro Festival. We did it last year. Do you guys want to do that again? >> When is it actually? >> It's in September. >> It is. And I I think Jenna was just asking about dates. I'm trying to see if

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I if she finalized one. Give me one minute. I'll double check. She was just asking me. >> You know me. I love sitting there with you in that thing. So, you know, I'd do that again. >> Yeah. You'll get a couple of colleies, you know, get

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they were circling around September 19th. >> Okay. >> I don't think tentative tentatively September 19th. >> Okay. >> In there. I thought >> if you want to do it, I'll do it with you if and people usually will drop by. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think Luke took the last year, too. So, >> y

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>> um so I I got a vendor request from her. First of all, I'll send it back in particular, but we should probably we could probably bring your electric blower for us. >> Yeah, >> electric blower. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we can show I brought the lawn mower request. >> Definitely tentative.

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>> But if there's things like that, we can we can look at that and get the same like you had all those. We used all the information you were collected and the brochures from the county. We had those there. We have all the stuff. >> We still have more. >> Yeah. So, we can do that. That that's always fun. And I'll bring a stuff that we have left, you know, those brochures.

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>> Yeah. I we have to come up with a way where instead of having people write their email address because that's almost always illegible, there's some other way like they could >> QR code. Yep. >> Yep. >> What does that mean? >> So, do you remember I did this with the

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Verizon meetings because we had so many people. They just scanned the QR code and popped up a Google form with that they fill out. So, I have to set up a Google form with >> it takes I can help you with that. >> That would be great. >> Yeah. Thank you. Writing that down. >> Y. Okay. >> You know what that is? That those are

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those squares with the pattern. >> Can you take a picture of it or do you just hold your camera? >> Yeah. I just don't know how to set it up for somebody. >> I see. Don't worry about it. I'll help you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. I have a couple of additional brochures that when I was at the sustainable

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Jersey ocean, the ocean group, um, clean ocean, they had a number of things. It wasn't just ocean related, but they had a number of things, recycling and, um, the environment. So, they're available to us. So, I took some copies. I was waiting to give them to Angie, but um, I'll bring them next time, um, see if we

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want to order some. >> Okay. Um, leaf blowers. Speaking of leaf blowers, I sent out an example from I forget it was a bar. It was a bar stamp. >> Um and what they did is they sent out to

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everybody in town a suggestion about a quiet summer and they included um a note for your landscaper that says for just for July and August just for the sake just voluntarily. So you kind of introduce the idea in a different way than an ordinance would

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>> just an idea. >> This is interesting. see what you think because then it's like you could just >> offer the suggestion to get people to think about the quality of life here in the summer and wouldn't it be nice if it was not as disruptive as it can be with

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all the landscaping equipment constantly being utilized in our community. >> Did we get feedback? Didn't we send a post out on that? >> No, we're reposting a lot of stuff, >> right? Like I months ago before the last

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meeting I posted >> something from South Orange and it's and I asked people I said hey what do you think people had a lot of opinions >> most of them positive >> not some of them the negative ones were very negative >> but it was overwhelmingly positive you

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know and I think a lot of people feel the same way I was walking over the beach today sorry and I was just like >> sorry cuz you didn't get to go >> cuz you didn't get to Oh, right. >> In the rain. >> I was laughing because my grandkids turn to about constant.

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>> I know. >> Leaf blowers. >> Yeah. >> Every And I was like, can I just have one day? >> Yeah. >> But I have one day a week, >> right? >> I'm with you. >> So, what would the next step be? Who would send that out? >> Well, actually, yes. Well, um, we've

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been pricing out, um, very happily actually with the results. Um, getting like an actual mass email platform so that we can have a real town newsletter. So, I'm hoping that's in place actually before the next council meeting on Tuesday. Um, if that happens, very easy

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to include something like or even just updates from you guys, too. So if we had a if we had a town email site and we could post it on the email IG and Facebook that would probably be the best way. >> Feel like you just said email IG and I

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don't know Facebook. >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure the town could post something. >> Well the town email would be a poll for people. Did they say >> you could do lots of things you could say you could just figure out what you want to include. Like if you want to say here's a link to a suggested letter to

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your contractor here or here is a Google poll to tell me like click on this to just send in your opinion or click on this ordinance. There's so many different things you can do. >> You can do all of them at one point or another >> and it's only it's this is just like a suggested approach. So you could do it next week.

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>> Soft soft launch, right? >> We just like to get that out there. >> If you asked your contractor to do that, what they would say? So, are they going to tell them that it's more expensive or are they >> Well, did you see the letter to the contractor? >> I'm just curious what like first thing when they say, "Okay, I need you to go electric for the next two months."

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>> That's not what it says. It says just don't use the >> say you could put the leaf in the street. >> So, so what's happened is that also talking to the landscapers in town that I've spoke to, we they can't dump grass anymore. >> Right. I was just thinking that when you said that.

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>> So, they can't dump grass. So there, you know, they in my backyard, he just leaves it, but he's been taking the grass. I God knows where it's going. But there's this, they couldn't take, they used to be able to go to Mammoth, the mount, the mammoth landfill or whatever that was. They can't do that now. The town doesn't take it.

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>> So they're having trouble. So I think um the landscape is would not be averse to not having to not having to, you know, blow the grass clippings around. >> What's that sustainable practice? Is it leaving the grass there? What is it? Yeah, just thought.

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>> Yeah, if you have no homemade, then even mow. That's like another way. Just don't even mow the lawn for a while. Just like just saying, not trying to be radical ideas. >> That's more of a bug issue. Why? >> That's okay. But they just let it lie and then it then that's too, you know,

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need to like get out of there. >> The the backyard talk like so collectively we're good with maybe posting some of these suggestions on maybe over the next week or two once we have an opportunity to get this email. >> Okay, great.

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>> So, I'm waiting. Can you uh let me know when you get the email of someone called, you know, imitating Charlton H. So, let me know when that happens. >> So, is the was the post on Instagram? Do you remember? I'm just curious. I would like to go back and read on Facebook.

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>> Well, I just reposted something you sent me, too. We don't get a lot of uh engagement with those reposts. They get a lot of engagement. >> Yeah. >> But we don't if we have original post. >> That's good to know.

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>> Okay. Patrick for wildlife. Just to give you an update, we had a meeting two days ago with the other towns which is um Redbank, Point Pleasant Beach, Point Pleasant Burrow, and um Lake Ko and us. And we're all kind of like third round

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of ing yards in town. So, we've been kind of stalking people's yards lately, looking for the whole set of people to award certificates to. We've recognized people's yards for being wildlife friendly, for having um some native planting, from having some less

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impervious surfaces, less lawn surface. So, it's all kind of And also, if they use sustainable maintenance practices, um like for example, an electric blower like you have, it would be something we would give you an award for. So, it's it's meant to be like a a

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positive, encouraging thank you. And when we go knock on doors and give people the certificates, they're always like, "Oh, because people put a lot of work into the yards." And it's nice to get a neighbor to say thank you. That's we really appreciate what you're doing. >> So, if you have yards that you want to nominate, let me know. Give me the

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addresses. We do a drive by. We look at the front front lawn. We don't go in the backyard unless you have a homeowner there. Give us permission to let us see the backyard. But some people's backyards are amazing, too. So, we're trying. >> And how many are you trying to conduct with or how many are >> right now? We we recognize about 20 so

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far. We're looking for another round for the fall. And then we have an awards ceremony. Last year, Katie was our speaker at the awards ceremony. And we it's a Zoom thing that we do where all the homeowners are invited and the people representing the chapters. We just kind of celebrate each other's efforts with their cards. So, that's

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patchwork. Um, Silver Lake right now. Um, the Army Corps is in the process of setting up a date to come out to go to the lake and do a wildlife survey and I think some other kind of like modeling or something. Um, so that should be

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hopefully in the next two weeks I'll be out. As far as I know, the whole incoming thing has worked out and that's taken care of with the financial side of it. So, it's just a matter of getting the final steps that they need to collect data in order to produce reports

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for the town to give us the options that >> did the burough engineer ever finish doing more of the the pipe because didn't we clear that? >> We did, but I don't know that he actually did it. >> I heard I heard someone followed up with the person who did that work and they just

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said there was no followup. That's I don't know how >> I'm emailing him. I don't know how accurate that is, but you know that's what someone had told me on the side that you know they were asking me how come we only did half the pipe and I told them that's all we had the money for at the time and >> no we've got it we've got >> but now we have now we have the money

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now so >> well technically we always had the money that's the problem >> that's not good I'll leave it alone >> well I mean is it not I mean it's better than the alternative you know I suppose so >> at least we still have the money >> yeah we we had the money and we still

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have the money so that's good >> at least We don't have the pipe is okay. So now it's >> filler, you know, the part that was clean, but they still >> Well, he just ran a camera. They didn't >> just I thought they cleaned it out. >> Did they clean it out? I don't know. It

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ran a I wasn't there. So I don't know if they had Dwayne flushing. I thought I thought it was You're saying clean it. >> Yeah. I don't know if they cleaned it out to nor scope it because that could be they could have. I don't know. >> I think they were evaluating

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I didn't know when they were doing it. I wasn't there. >> Yeah, me either. >> Well, we're going to follow up on this. >> Thank you. >> And then the um the other grant which is apparently an EPA grant that we were awarded. So the way I understand it is

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that the money's allocated for Belmar Silver Lake million dollars plus a 20% match from the town burrow and um we are now beginning the process of creating the all the paperwork surrounding that.

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So there's a grant they call it an application but it's an application for an already approved um amount of money for a particularly approved project. So Gary and I did the first um like there was a mandatory training that was online. We did that. The grant writer's

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working with the paperwork. He's working on um getting into the system. So the next step will be there's like seven hours of training and we have to figure out who >> Yeah, seven is a lot. >> It's it's a there's a fairly significant like the the webinar was simple. You

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know that was that was easy but there's of course you have to get certified. We need a point of contact in the town to be specified. That person has to have all the training, the certificates, the top of the list. >> Yes, that was that was definitely on the list. >> Yeah.

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>> Is it the engineer that does that? Are they the one? >> I don't know. So, I mean, it doesn't make sense for it to be me right now. So, yeah. You know, it makes sense if we had, you know, a project manager person in the town. >> Well, that should be the BA. >> Yes. You know,

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>> you would you would think I just don't think the BA will have the bandwidth to be able to do this on top of it. So maybe if you >> we have to ask them. So that's why we're meeting this meeting. But another idea would be if it's decided it would work, they have somebody designated from the engineering firm to be the project manager. Sure.

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>> Because there's money in the grant to pay for >> that. Does make sense. And they have the engineering >> and the technical background. >> So if you can talk about that, >> let's talk about that more. Yeah, >> if you get to do that the the positive aspect of using the the PM. If you have a PM, they have the Army Corp, the

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engineering firm is does a good job, they know what they're doing, they can then work with the grant writer, take the Army Corp plan, go to National Fish and Wildlife, go to rep, go to all the other funding sources and hopefully with they should be able if they if they're a really good engineering firm, they go,

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"Oh, I have five years of work. I can, you know, the total project is $5 million. I'll work with the grant writer to get the funding and I'll have a job." So, you know, it's a it's a if it's done right, they they should want to jump on this. >> I was also just wondering, just to point out, does it make sense to connect with

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like >> the American Society or anything like that and have them come on as projects manager is a question? another option because the thing is what we learned in the training which I I you knew already you can already start spending the money like even though the grant application's

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not completed because it's been approved you can do pre um approval allocation >> can we manage it ourselves or is that has to be a third party >> the borrow can manage it I mean >> I mean so us what we're looking for

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>> well part of what the challenge is holding the funds because the money at the burrow. >> Oh yeah. >> And so the burrow is public down. They have certain checks and balances. >> It should be a professional and not a volunteer. >> And the engineering firm is subcontracted to the burrow. So again,

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it's a whole system of >> Well, let's talk about that further. We'll see what the best options are. Maybe the CFO person. >> Yeah, I think maybe I'm thinking now he should be in this meeting as well. >> And then the actual projects within that is that still to be determined. Is that what the application does? Say I want to

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spend this much on this. We were counting on the Army Corps to give us a real good set of options, >> but also, you know, they had told us we could use it for like things like the pipe survey, other things that we're doing related to the lake, >> we could use this money for, >> right?

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>> I think we're, you know, when you look at it, the training we went through, this is not that hard. If the any engineering firm down the shore who's worked on federal money, it's it's just paperwork. It's not that challenges. you have to do training, get your certification and everything else and they should be able to blow through

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this. The challenge I think we have is how are we going to uh provide the appropriate support to them um as we move forward. Is it going to be through the piece the environmental commission or is do we need to look at something like they've done with silver lake and Bradley Lake? I'm not of silver with

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Avon and Bradley Beach for the Silven Lake and or do we need to do something like the Deal Lake Commission? You know, one of the ideas is do you want to set up reinstate a lakes hub committee? You want to set up a lake commission to support this because someone's going to have to be on top of it and supporting

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the town and everyone else to keep it moving. >> Right. >> So, I mean, we'll just first step, let's meet, >> we'll have I I'm going to email now and say, let's make sure we have the finance people in the meeting as well because Yeah. Um and then we'll know next steps.

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There's just a lot of questions without answers right now. So, let's get to the point where we are asking the right people. >> Sounds good. >> Um, Matthew's not here to talk about the sharp river. Do you want to talk about the planning board? Well, the thing where we had you and I met um the town

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is required every 10 years to do the uh master plan re-examination and um the planning board members were divided up and to uh interview different department heads or commission heads and and and I did you

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>> and the DPW um and sent the information over to April and and to be disced. us at our next meeting on Monday. That's basically how that was happening just a re-examination and master plan. They're also inviting the public, you

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know, for input also. >> And just for my part of that, when when I met, I just talked about what we're doing here with the commission, but also in general about green development like that's something. >> Yeah. When as more building is

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happening, how can we ensure that that is part of the decision making? >> Sure. So I'll be in my first planning board meeting I believe. >> That's right. >> So this is popped my head has been speaking to the CFO believe. Can you confirm if the money that we got from

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the the county you know what 250 for the lake I believe they gave us in their open spaces because the overall cost of the project when you do the calculations is uh 1,250,000 of which $250,000 is ours. I thought it

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was 20% but it's you have to divide a million by 08 and and then multiply by 20%. That's how I saw that formula. >> Yeah. So it's a little different. So we owe 250. But I think that our Mammoth County grant might cover the match on that. >> That'd be interesting.

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>> So she'd ask the CFO to check on that because if it does, >> put that on the list. >> All right. That's just something because I was going through it. >> Send him three emails in a row. Just >> Yeah. I was looking through the I was looking through what is considered a match and it's it's county um and state

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and local. So if that's the case then, you know, we could go back and and thank the engineer. >> I think you probably just have to look on the application process and see if what that grant is for is covered by what we applied for with that. You know, that's just a question. And that's something that if there's a followup, we

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could follow up with the commissioners and the engineer, you know, along with the grant and see what you know, what flexibility we have. >> Yeah. Well, I think I think we'll ask them first and see. I'm sure it's just a question of reading through the materials and finding out the answer. >> I think so. They tend to be pretty

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straightforward about that type of So, I was actually when I looked at it, I was hoping, you know, now that we have this thing going that they could provide that information because that would just be, you know, to be able to move forward with the lake and get this first thing started and not have an impact on the

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budget uh would be a significant positive to the rest. >> Absolutely. I don't know if Lorraine is still consulting, but she's very >> Lorraine was here yesterday and she'll be in on Monday as well >> because apparently she has done these arm core grants with the deal mission

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and so she's familiar with what works and what doesn't work. So she might also be able to give us some insight of that. >> Great. >> Um okay and finally the council update. You have anything you want to share? >> Oh nothing much.

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Yeah. Uh, well, you guys all know, so there's that. Um, things are moving along really well. I think we're going to be really happy about where the bureau is in even in a very short amount of time. Um, the the new VA has over he was in Wall for 20 years. He was in

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Ventner. Um, he was in Sebrite. He actually worked in Sebrite with the finance guy we brought in. So, I was in the meeting and we've got our priorities in order. They're actually quite confident that some of the things that we've been facing and struggling with are

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in these are very solvable problems which is just >> great. >> Yes. >> So that's wonderful to hear. >> Um >> the the next meeting I'm putting on some transparency measures which is also great. Some things that are um you know

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the idea is to put in structurally what has been missing. So um you know even 20 years from now or those the problems we've had will not will not resurface. So that's really good. Um I mentioned the thing about just simple stuff the newsletter those type of

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things. Um you know I've been meeting with the different department heads. I had breakfast with DPW surprisingly shy. Great great guys. everyone, you know, we've got great staff.

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>> Um, and now we have good management in and you're just going to see turn around really fast. >> Question. So, are we going to have a new counseling leazison? >> No, I'm not planning on going anywhere. >> So, you guys said that I'm listening to her talking.

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That's all I'm thinking about because I will take the compliment. Thank you. >> All right. That's what I'm I'm more worried about that than anything else. >> No, I mean this has been, you know, this has been incredible and watching you guys do all the work that you're doing and being part of it is so deeply

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meaningful. I wouldn't dream of walking away. >> Well, that's great. >> So, as you're thinking about that as mayor and the council, we have the work that we're talking about with McCclary Park. >> Yeah. >> Um, which is moving along nicely. Um, I met Sylvia and I have been speaking u

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I've also looked out to find people who might volunteer for a lake sub for a subcommittee. I spoke I chatted the rec person again. >> So the guys from friends of Belmar Harbor are interested um and the um the

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sailing >> friends they have an open house coming up too. I just saw that >> they're they're really eager to be involved obviously all the issues down in the clear park >> that affects them. >> Yeah, I was you send me an email something like that so I can contact them. >> Yes. And um they you know I was down

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there I took a a mini tour of just their area on two days ago. Gosh the days are blending. It's I think that was the same as DPW breakfast day. So it must have been on Wednesday. And um there's a sinkholes down there. There's you know

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and just looking at some of the there's so many improvements that need to be made but again solvable problems. So that's good. >> Sure. Yeah, >> I think it's good. I've al some work with the department of transportation that's some friends and also looking you

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know that the ability to do things on >> Oh, but what do you sorry >> on route 35 is is there you know they have >> gym shared email from Jim Sheriff. >> Yeah, I have that. I've had that for a while. Of >> course you have. >> So I go through that and you know I understand everything. Now, the

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challenge with 335 is ever since it's a state road, you can influence the state, they have adjusted speed limits throughout the rest of the shore. >> Sure. >> And so, you know, there's things that as we go through and as we clean the park up and we say we want to improve the safe access to that park and deal with

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the parking problems at that park and everything else, I think there's a very viable approach to engage them with especially if you have a VA who understands how to engage appropriately. And I actually just asked him today to set up a meeting with DOT. So

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>> is it definitely because I thought there was confusion as to whether it's a state or not. It's definitely a state road there because one of the residents said that they said >> no it's a state road. >> The the what we do have is just documentation about certain pieces of land that are not the road

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>> on the other side of the guard rail. >> Yeah. >> Guardil theoretically that's all been deeded to us. >> Yes. all of it's deed to us and we're supposed to maintain it. The challenge that you don't we don't clean the road. We don't the curbing is shot, right?

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It's it's safety concerns, it's access concerns and what I believe, you know, you work with dot, but I think using the mccclary park and the increased amount of residents and the people using it and we have to it's a safety concern for people going to that park. this way to

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drive that and drive it in the context of that we have all these new residents coming in that are going to be there and on top of that it's the only free beach that has a life about M county >> there's definitely an equity angle to the whole thing >> yes and there's a the ability for county residents and state residents to come to

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a place where they can get water access they have a lifeguard there and there's a lot of things I think you can tie in that can help move the DOT along and help us you know with getting the appropriate grants it's It's pretty interesting. >> It'd be such a victory to get one of

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those like flashing light pedestrian crossing signs. >> Well, that's why. >> Yeah. >> But that's why that's why with the UVA, if he's done a DOT um type of work, which I've done in my jobs when I had to do that at factories and stuff like that

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for traffic, if they know what they're doing and you lay out the DOT study that you want, >> you go in, I want you to evaluate and you just list all the things. If you don't tell them what to evaluate, they might not. >> Well, sure. >> And also like considering the new

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construction that's going up too with just, you know, half block down the road or whatever, like taking a step back and really looking at what's going to work best. >> Yes. >> Is they put this so police can put up those I think they do it as prevention. Um

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those where it tells you your speed. >> Have they ever >> they've done that? The police. You see them sitting in the in the parking lot. They seem to pull people over. >> I see the wall people, the wall cops coming into our town, taking people off the hut so reduce the speed.

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>> They're trying. >> Well, we had a resident come to a council meeting who had a car plow into our house. >> You saw that on Yeah, >> that stretch of road is terrible. >> So, I lost the club cap over there. >> Did you really? >> Oh, yeah. We hit a pothole or something.

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Boom. goes flying into somebody's yard. But uh I went looking for my my hook cap and I found about 10 others. >> But not mine. >> And he made a quick couple dollars.

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>> Now I heard that one with those people complaining. But did they buy the property? Were they blind when they bought the property? >> You got to you got to ask yourself >> there's there's a balance. I agree with you because you you know you know where you're living. The challenge with that

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is the um is the traffic study and the state of the the road, the sidewalk and the curbing and then the access across the road for pedestrians. That's why you know this is in my mind I agree with you. I'm I'm not doing this to preserve homeowners equity. We're doing it to

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provide safe access to residents. You know the primary job of a of a town is to ensure the safety of its residents. And even though you know during that meeting when I saw the police the person in charge and uh the two people in charge say oh it's not it's a state road it's a state road. Thankfully you

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stepped in but it's we have to lead that charge about safety and you have to do it in a way for the residents. It's the homeowners have their own set of issues. They want to challenge and go down there to theirs. But I think we ones to make sure that anyone who uses their park can safely get in and get out be it a

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resident, a visitor or whatever. I think it's a great lead from what I can read what I can reading. >> Actually, if they have a a real argument, it's with the tax assessor. In other words, they're claiming number

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one, the name is a road. Belmar always was avenues 80 ft right away. Uh you got full utilities in it and so on. When you get and streets 60 foot right away, not all utilities are in the streets.

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Uh that's on the west side of the railroad and historically it's a road. Belar never made any uh overture to these people that they would have an avenue in front of their house period.

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Uh they're lucky and I guess the the highway department actually plows the roads there. I think I know what they're going to get from DoD as a suggestion. It's probably going to be concrete highway barrier put right at the curb line to protect their properties uh that

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that are east of of that. Uh but that's going to create other problems too. >> So I'm happy to to you know sit down with and help our our VA or our town engineers go through. Um also if we do that I'd be happy to connect you know

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and try and get John Kate's office singer's office and also for getting our leg room. >> Oh >> all right I'm happy to go speak to him also to try and and get them to put to talk into DOT. I'm also if you guys want

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I'm also happy to go speak um and some of the connections with the state troopers to go in and ask the state troopers maybe to put a word in for us too. So there's all these things that when you, you know, when you're trying to influence to get all these people to do it, the buttons we have to push it,

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I'm willing to help. >> Thank you. >> You know, because, you know, I'm I'm at a stage of my life where I I'll say anything to anybody just to get a laugh. >> Yeah. But are there properties assessed lower or higher?

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>> Yeah, we >> that's really what that's really the argument that those people have. people that live live along the railroad tracks don't get assessed. Their property is not as valuable as people that are on record streets and avenues. So to get to

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all the points you're getting out of best uh Sylvia um to also identify other people I gave a list of the type of information how do you chat uh how to use you know the uh AI to start gathering all this stuff and um and find

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out what what do we spent on our previous grants because I someone said there's a grant outstanding still for there >> question >> yeah from from the park that went in it was supposed to be pickle pickle the pickle ball. >> So, >> so this just so I'm going to pull

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>> the pickle ball course because someone came to a meeting and g ended up giving me 125 names of pickle ball enthusiasts and um um but uh and I did go and look at the pickle ball court and it the fence is

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dilapidated. It's a problem and there are still people playing on it. And when I asked about it, I think it was our DPW who said that they had a price and someone came and it has to be completely redone and it' be like a million dollars which is >> so

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>> a roadblock. Um but like I just want to revisit that conversation too to be like well refers what about just redoing this fence here like what are our different options? Yeah, >> that's kind of like what we that's why you always explain Sylvia the plan that we put together with the lake and subine

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how we went about laying it all out to get moving. That's the same thing that we want to do there. You know, what are the benefits? You know, we have a a field there that's not used anymore. The soccer don't play soccer there anymore. No one plays lacrosse there anymore. All those people gone elsewhere. Part of the reason is is not sufficient parking.

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>> And the problem is right now, hypothetically, we're supposed to be putting in playground next to that playground. >> Yes. um which I continue to have questions about. >> That's the one that's going to be >> accessible. Yes. Although that playground already is is

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>> a lot of it is accessible. Um so I don't know. I can't remember off the top of my head what the proposed footprint of the new playground is. Um but we've had to spend quite a bit of money just evaluating it because of like architect area. So we just need I think if we

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follow the game plan that we did with the link >> and go about that and try to put together get a partner if you can if you if we have a a good BA and a good engineering firm as partners we wouldn't need the army corp we needed the army corp because we couldn't get anyone else

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we that's a hard job to do find someone to do that for you but I think this one is more within the strength of an engineering firm >> and you know when our business people here versus lake, you know, which uh because of this the challenges there, but we could easily start pulling that

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together and go into what do you do for the fencing? What do you do? What can you do short >> term? So, there's also a commission. Didn't you get a grant where you're working? >> Well, yes. So, you river. >> No, not yet because but our next meeting

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is scheduled for another week, I think. Um, so >> that could also help. >> But that's a really good point. >> But that's a planning grant right now. Um so uh so that that's slower but that is something where hopefully down the line like we can be anything that's not

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directly in Belmar that that is doing we can piggyback like dredging if they're dredging in Shark River and we can Yeah. So for us, our challenge after I've been speaking to the people at Chalk River is that the challenge there that they look at us is our sediment runoff

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>> into the into there and our storm sewer runoff >> as the challenges that we have. And we have because of the bulkhead that's at the end of McClary Park going towards Belmont Boulevard, there's a wood bulkhead that's falling apart. So it's undermined this sediment that's leeching

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through there and because the in the concrete which people have known if you've walked around there you see the hole and they and the DPW fills it in with rocks and there's all those things >> like a cone on top of a hole. >> Yeah. And so there's things that that can be done. Um and this is where some of the sustainability and native plants

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come in that you could do there to hold the soil back and while you're doing the bulkhead. So all this stuff, you know, I've been doing it. I believe it's just as, you know, doable. Just take two and a half years probably like the lake to pull it all together, but it's definitely doable if you can if you can help us get the right team of people

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together for that. Um, I'm more than happy to work. >> You can't do it without the right people. >> No. And if you can help, I think that that could be done. And and you know, the people in Rhode Island point, they deserve that. And you know, it's it's a jewel of our town that can really shine.

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>> Absolutely. Okay, thanks. Um, so we're out to public comment, so I don't know if you have >> Sure. >> the need or desire. >> So, uh, I'm Sarah Tantel. I live at 50513 Avenue. Um, and I've spoken to Caitlyn and Diane a little bit about

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some of these things. Um, a few different topics. One, I recently got solar panels >> and my electric bill went from $230 a month to $80 a month for the next 25 years with no money down. >> So, I was you know, wondering if there's

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something we could do to encourage more people in the town to do this. You know, >> we're all like, Donna, take it away. >> I'm happy to >> Yeah, we can connect after part of the energy plan and yeah, >> that's what we want to do. There's a lot

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of ways that we can just we can actually get solar energy without putting it on your house. So, there's a lot of different things that can happen. Yeah. Um and especially um for some of the other the bigger buildings um where residents have issues with um you know potentially some of the senior buildings and things or some things that we might

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be able to do in addition to those. >> Yeah, I'd love to call I'll take your number at the end. >> Yeah, sure. Want to share that. Um, number two, I mean, although you would know it from the last couple days, we have been in a drought situation, as everybody knows. And, um, I was talking with Diane about the possibility of

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maybe some kind of initiative to maybe find a way to get discounted rain barrels for people in the community, train people in how to install them, >> up there, >> train people in how to install them, you

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know, etc. Um because I feel like it's just going to continue to be a problem. >> I think that's a great suggestion. Great idea. >> Master gardeners do stuff. >> I think they do too. I'm going to ask >> I think it's something that you can bounce off your uh sewer and water

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people because when I you know the water that I collect off my rain bars. I'm not using the town water. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And it saves you water money and it it takes off. So I think grain I'm glad you said >> less we put into the sewers and have to worry about if we're being charged extra

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for it and also just you know like gardening. >> I forgot about that. That's a I have it in my house. I never thought about raising it here. >> Yeah. But the thing is if we could get some kind of deal then everybody wouldn't have to individually go and try to price out rain barrels. >> Where do you get some typically? Is it is it just like Home Depot or Home

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Depot? >> I mean yeah they sell. >> Yeah. No, I just wondered when you said like >> I don't have one yet. >> Okay. >> So I'm just saying like maybe we could figure something out. That's the master gardeners but also >> Do you have one too? >> I have one. >> Yeah. And I I got mine through a civic. >> Do you use it for all your plants or

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>> uh No, it just it fills my fish pond actually. >> Okay. >> And then you flow throws into the garden. >> Yeah, mine does mine. >> If it's really bad, I put it in my driveway because it just winds up. >> Yeah, I had that for a few years ago. I

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had that comment too where it was just like the aquifer was just pumping up and >> good that was a good suggestion. Thank you for that. >> Um and I post I so when you mentioned the Facebook page is that the environmental commission Facebook as well as the you also post on the

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>> the regular Belmar town page too, right? Or we send I send some stuff over there. >> Yeah, there is. Yes. >> Yeah. >> They repost some of our stuff to them. We have a her name is Jenna.

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She's a staff person. Okay. So, um >> I'm sorry. I'm talking about the Belmar locals page. >> So, the Delmare Locals I take what he says and sends it over there and she posts it. So, I think a chair there's a woman >> there's a locals page that has like um

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last time I looked it was like about 17,000 people. So, >> those aren't all Belar people. >> No, but a lot a lot of people do go there for local. So we our commission has a page linked to belar.com. So that's the one that Angie was working on. So we have >> several different sites. If you go to belar.com, municipal page,

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>> unfortunately you have to go into it. It says commissions. Go to the commissions. Go to the environmental commission. There's our website. >> Okay. >> There's also just Belar Environmental Commission, right? Or >> not sure. >> I don't know. Yeah. Um well anyway the reason I brought it

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up is um you know there's the other Delmare Facebook group that is selected based on you have to prove that you're a resident of Delmare or Linko or you know the one that Joe Makavoy started >> um and I posted there recently and I don't know if you know.org

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>> thank you. Um, I can send you a please. >> And if you can be your email. >> Yeah, that' be great. >> Um, but anyway, there's like I don't know more than 2,000 people who are Belar residents who are on that. And I was going to say if you wanted to survey people, >> you know, that might be a place to survey people because they are actually,

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>> you know, definitely Belar residents as opposed to random people from North Jersey who want to know what's going on in Belar. Um, but I posted there. There's a guy in Tucson who has been doing water harvesting and pretty much like had a huge impact on Tucson where of course they have

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>> water needs like we only get 11 inches of water of rain a year. And he essentially what happened was like I think about 10 years ago now he cut >> into his curb so that when it rained the water would go you know into his garden and yard and

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stuff. And technically it was illegal to do that but he did it anyway. And then all of a sudden, like he started to have, you know, trees and bushes and everybody's like, "How did you do that?" And then he after a couple years of that, he had to go to the town and admit that he had broken the law and cut the

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curb and whatever. But it was so everybody else could do it. And now in Tucson, that's >> like it's transformed their city. >> Wow. >> And they story. >> And it's so cool. I mean, like, thank god my my YouTube >> algorithm is mostly like gardening and ukulele videos, so that's what I got. Um

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but so what they did was they're they have like circles and um when the water goes downhill it goes into this like into the circle. So they they're actually growing things even you know on the road they have sort of cutouts on the road. I'm not suggesting that we do any of that but just you know just I

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think it's interesting to think about you know different ways to harvest water so that we don't you know >> you know you know about rain gardens right how that works. >> Yeah >> that may be what he's doing. It's a similar idea which is you just set up at a lower and then some sort of

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>> overflows in the lake. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what he did. Yeah. >> You can see that at um the west end of our of Silver Lake. >> That's where um what's it called? >> Garden. >> Yeah. The garden there. That's that's one of those >> water.

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>> It's it's called garden >> because it's a garden that collects the rain. >> So that's it. So yeah, those are those great and and that's when we look at the lake. You know what we're hoping to do is between when we get the army be looking at bio swells, you'd be looking at rain gardens. You looking at if you

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go down to Silven Lake, they've done a really nice job on one of their sewer lines going in where it goes in before it goes into the lake, it's going to a rain garden. >> That addresses a couple of things. It helps on um ensuring the the water going

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in is cleaner, but also helps you with your MS4 requirements. >> Um and one of >> that's a sewer storm sewer requirements that we have to do for the state. >> Y that's up right now basically. >> Do that's one other thing is that with the Army Corps plan, we're going to be

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putting a plan about the soldiers going into the lake which will help address the town's MS4 requirements. So, some of the town's MS4 requirements are going to be addressed through the lake work. >> So, I don't think anyone other than you would uh has ever listened to me. I've

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told multiple people, don't look at me like I'm nuts. You you just you just don't look at me like I'm nuts, but other people do. I tell them this stuff and they but you know, we can address that. I don't know what the MS4 plan is, but you have 22 lines going into that

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lake. And I forgot how many total in the town, but that's a huge chunk of them >> that theoretically the lake money over the next several years will help address some of that too, especially the high priority ones. So, this is something if you think about requirements. >> Yeah.

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>> Good suggestions. Thanks. And then the other thing we talked about, I don't know if we brought up yet, but the idea of maybe doing some kind of, you know, environmental fair. >> Yeah, we we tal we had that rooted in Belmar, which was a really nice day. >> Yeah. But we wanted we were talking

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about maybe she would also work as a volunteer to come organize another event like that. >> Very cool. >> Yeah. In the fall, we were talking. >> Yeah. >> On one of my walks to Asbury, you know, because now I'm retired, I walk everywhere. So, I walked around Asbury and I met their environmental commission

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and they had a whole uh thing like it were fair that was on Lake Street which unfortunately is not flooded but you saw where they put all the I don't know if you've been there lately. They had put all uh gardens, >> native plant gardens and um they had benches and they really landscape

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really nicely. They had a beautiful fair there and I I talked to the people there and uh they seem to be a very active uh active group. So, I don't know who's if anyone have a >> Is that Wesley Wesley Lake? >> Sorry. >> Wesley Lake. >> Yeah, on that side there.

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>> Okay. Yeah, they just I just got a >> email about they just got money from Mama County. >> Yep. I was about to say that >> to uh take all the sludge that I guess accumulated there through some >> minor dreging. >> I don't know the people there. I don't

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know the commission there, but they seem to be pretty active. So, when you're >> they are very active. So if there's some connection there you would think that you know we can learn from there would be you know >> what is the whatchamacallit um event over at um moment what you call

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it come on help >> the late the late testing you knew what I meant. >> Yeah I know what you mean. I just I was watching you fl >> the uh Moth University has an event every year with all the late testing there. Yes. We went to that last

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>> Gary Gary's got to go this year. He is his favorite thing. >> Yeah, >> they haven't announced it yet. So, there was no >> It's still warm. I feel like it's warm out when we go. So, >> last year it was. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> I mean, that could be

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>> I didn't go I went like five years. I just I don't do the lake testing anymore, so I'm not on the bailing ones to go to that. >> But, uh and they didn't do it at yearly. The last one was out in a year. >> Yeah. We have >> I want to give you an opportunity too

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for public comment before close. >> Oh, I I found a gremlin in the uh >> the gremlin. >> Yeah, in the energy plan. >> Okay. Okay. >> You may want to corre >> Okay, I made a mistake. >> Page Yeah. 37. >> Gremlin. The little things that >> Yeah. Just never heard it used that way

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before. Me neither. >> I knew what you meant. >> Um actually I mentioned before u Ed Pontiac is now the D commissioner. >> Yes. He's a big proponent of storm water utilities.

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>> I had brought this up at May council meeting a couple times as an avenue of uh reducing at least 50% of our sewage charge if we had formed a storm water utility.

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And by the way, the storm water utility would dovetail very well with the MS4 D regulations. uh basically uh and it would provide a stormwater utility would provide another

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form of funding which currently we don't have at this time. >> We have a lot of non-t taxable properties in the town. Uh there they would not uh they would still have to pay a fee

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>> into a storm water. Now we have just paying WSMak $65,000 to replace a check valve for Lake Coma. Okay. So we have a reason to form a stormwater utility just as a line item.

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>> Sure. uh and further on as you adopt a stormwater utility you identify other sources of funding and basically it's a feebased they target impervious cover um

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and and some work has actually been done in this town on that sort of thing. Um, by the way, you were mentioning engineering firms. Uh, let me just recommend some out uh that had done the

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Lake Home pipe and had also done the A Street pipe. Those people actually we have them still down as a consulting engineer. I believe it's called Waterman. The fella the fellas doing the uh >> I thought you were going to say birds. I

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was like they're not. >> No, they're not. They're long gone. But uh they're actually doing the skateboard part. >> Okay. >> Uh and their name is still down as as an engineering firm. >> Okay.

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>> And uh they have insight in they have knowledge of certainly of Silver Lake A Street pipe lake would be that they have down there. uh if you're looking for engineering, not that I have any problem with with Remington Bernie, but uh uh we

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have people that had done work in town here for for years. They they are by the way, so I believe they were all former Birds Hall employees. >> That makes sense. >> So >> yeah. So I've hired a lot of engine firm engineering firms in my career just like

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you have with consultants for you know um you know contract manufacturing contract design contract building of facilities and things like that it is you know how we do that I don't know how we do in the town but the the vetting process so you pick an engineering firm what it really comes down to is do you

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get a good project manager a good team from the firm so that's you know as we're working with people you know you should be able to leverage people like myself have experience of those things and choosing, you know, this not just the firms, the person and who they're going to put on the team and their credentials and how to put your your

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your work your statement of work in and how to put in, you know, how you what your expectations are. So, um I know you've done this before. I know I did it before. So, if I can I'm more than happy to help you on that also as you do that. >> Unfortunately, in New Jersey, it comes

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down to politics. Okay. I mean, Verdict, they're big enough that they provide campaign contributions to both parties. I work for public service electric and gas. We made campaign contributions to both parties. The last

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time that we had a paytoplay problem here in town. Uh it wasn't because Birdsole had money. was because Birds Hall, the engineer guy, u you know, they got in trouble because of hiding

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pay-to-play money. But that's just a reality in New Jersey. But yes, there are specialty engineering firms that u that you know have have a track record of of doing work and they're familiar

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with with gun. Um, >> so is it something you want to give me on a hard copy or >> No, you could just you could just page 36. >> Okay. >> Uh, it makes reference to a burrow of Pine Hill. >> This happens often when you're dealing

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with consultants. Uh, they >> Glad you cut and paste. >> Fix it. >> They cut and paste. >> They Yes, they cut and paste, but it makes them more efficient. It makes them more efficient, too. >> Where did you get Did you get that from the the latest one that's on the site?

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Because we fixed one of those. So, I thought we'd fix that one. >> Uh, I got this from actually I I I requested it at a meeting and April did put it up on the burrow's >> Okay, that should be the latest one. Yes, we fixed it once, but we'll fix it. >> 426.

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>> Okay. >> I'd like to just let me just say I want to thank you for actually reading it because really seriously, not everybody that lives here is willing to do that. >> I read I read I read things backwards and actually just I haven't even gotten

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to the front of the thing that um page 36 you can check on there. >> I mentioned storm water utility. Another thing that's coming up here in town, uh I guess I'm asking everybody to support

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is uh the uh it's been money money has already been earmarked by uh what's our Palone our representative just north of us and Van

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Drew south of us for beach replenishment and I think we're just waiting now for Chris Smith, we probably make an announcement before election day that money's been allocated for beach replenishment and includes Belmar. It

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would run uh basically make the beach 30 what you say 38 ft wider than what it currently is. Um last time that they did this, we were not very happy with you probably remember this. We were not happy with the sand.

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>> Ugly sand. You remember that? >> On rocks. >> Yeah, it was dirt. >> Sand is a strong word. It was dirt. >> Be generous. >> We had people threatening the town to and they wanted their money back for beach badges because they ruined their

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towels when they put their towels down on the sand. Anyhow, u >> So, say over that or >> Excuse me. >> Do do we have a say over what dirt comes in? I don't think it's been announced. >> I don't. Oh, they've selected uh

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unemployers selected borrow areas and there's two areas off the coast of Belmar which they u last time I had gotten an update they were just waiting for some final analysis. Um

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a lot has to do with grain size and everything else. Actually if you look at the aerial photography of the beach in Belmar you can tell where they did it. They started at 9th Avenue, went south and uh goes all the way down to Barn to Manisquan.

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Um I did see that uh Avon I get their newsletter and they seem to be on top of it. I >> I I think are they in clones area? >> I think so. >> Okay. That's probably the reason why

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that they've been made aware that you know between plan >> is that or is it not too >> that was Bradley where it started but I'm not confident. Um no but the mayor of Avon actually he's a wonderful asset and he's been great for and um he was

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used to be in he used to be attorney environmental protection so he is very savvy about these type of things. He's great. Um, and actually he just moved in because there's a proposal in the beach to that DP is pushing. So, we're supposed to think about that really soon. >> Okay. >> Yeah,

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>> I'll update you on that. I'm sure >> he still worked at he worked for Pringles over at Pringles over here. >> He did. I don't know if he still does. >> Yes. Anyhow, uh that's coming down the pipe and uh I did see that Avon is actually

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uh started a conversation with the core of engineers regarding the beach replenishment program. U beach uh has been North End Beach has never been wider. Never. Uh it's so wide

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that the sand has been dumping into the inlet and and uh the army quarters had to dredge every three or four months. >> Yeah, I saw them. >> Yeah. >> But this the south side of the town, you get down below 15th Avenue, you're into

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a high hazard area. >> Really really there's not much beach left. we get a large storm. Sorry for >> this is something the BA's following up on this type of stuff the BA follows up on. Right.

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>> Sure. >> That's because I I don't you know >> goes to see their job description because I I never understood what they did previous but that's >> okay.

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I think that that basically concludes our public remarks here. Um, and I'd like to call the meeting quarter. >> Thank you. >> And thank you everybody for your time and attention. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> That's great. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thanks for coming. >> Thank you. Um, yes. Can anyone I'm done

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