microphone cuz I'm Louis really loud. >> But uh we're calling the meeting to order >> and I guess we start with the pledge of the pledge of allegiance. >> Those that can't stand otherwise don't hurt yourself. Just
>> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> And now we're going to have a moment of silence for
people that are struggling with >> homelessness, heat, illness, all that. >> Okay. Okay. >> This meeting has been called in accordance with the provisions of the
open public meeting tag and that an announcement of the same has been mailed to the local newspapers and to the clerk at the burrow of Elmar and that the minutes of this meeting will be available after the board of after board approval at a subsequent meeting.
>> All right, roll call. Commissioner Anderson. Uh here. >> Commissioner Shar >> here. >> Commissioner Robinson >> present. >> Commissioner Blackburn. She's not here yet. >> Commissioner Ramy >> here.
>> Commissioner Palendrono. >> You have a quum. >> So approval of the minutes for January, please. >> Oh, okay. Cool. Now we are going to have a special presentation
from this fine young gentleman here from the office and the aging right. >> Uh yes that's correct. >> Okay. >> Can you use the uh because some people can >> Yeah, absolutely. Sure. >> Yeah. You have my kind of voice. >> All right. Uh good afternoon or good evening everyone. My name is Joe
Corsion. I'm the outreach coordinator for the Moth County Division on Aging Disabilities Veteran Services in Freehold. and Commissioner Remy invited our office to provide a presentation uh to your building and to your tenants. Uh next Friday, the 13th, 12:00 noon to
2:00 p.m. We'll speak and provide an overview on programs and services for which people may contact our office and ways that we may be of assistance. We also at this time are offering assistance with NJ SNAP applications as well as NJ family care both age disabled
and managed long-term services and supports applications. We'll bring information regarding that. Uh we'll provide some brochures and flyers on different programs that we'll speak about. Uh we'll also bring some of our readygo bags for those who would like to obtain that resource. Uh we'll be
providing food and we are looking forward to having a good showing for this event. We're uh eager to get information uh to folks who reside here uh as well as answer any questions. >> Thank you. >> Oh, you're welcome.
Does anyone have any questions for me or >> quick quick quick >> if anyone had any uh questions regarding the event? What's going to be uh next Friday the 13th uh 12:00 noon here in your community room? >> You have to sign. >> We do have a uh signup sheet which I
believe you have uh on a bulletin board or somewhere that everybody can see it and access it. Uh we are asking for folks to uh sign up if they'd like to attend uh so that way we can have an idea of how many people to expect and prepare our resources and food accordingly. >> Yes, please tell me Friday the 13th.
>> Uh yes, that's correct. Uh 12 noon. >> Okay. >> Will I be allowed to record >> or other than residents allowed? >> Uh that might be a question for one of your commissioners. are asking if uh it's exclusive to residents of the
building or if others may attend. >> 13. >> It's not my >> I don't make the question. >> She wants to know if she can video. >> I want to know if I could come if I'm available. >> Yes. >> Is it open?
>> Are there um flyers? Will they go out to each of the residents? >> They were put under their doors. >> Okay. Thank you. She also wanted to know, can other people come beside? >> No, we're going to set up something with the town later on. That's why I want Maria. Is she here? >> Maria's here.
>> So, we can talk and set up something for the >> I'm sure you What was the answer? We We can come too. We're not residents. >> And can I can I bring my camera? Can I record? >> Of course. >> Thank you. Okay. Flyers for put under
the door. >> Yeah. I'm going to have to get one. Yeah, the flyers. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Okay. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> Don't be intimidated. Go ahead. Come back here. Just prepare.
>> Okay. >> Gotcha. All right. Thanks everybody. >> Thank you. and maybe a fresh >> Joe. Just a minute. >> So, just to be clear, the 13th meeting is just for the senior building. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And then the other after that, they're
going to try to set one up for the town. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, that would be a meeting that you come to. So, Maria, and then we'll try to fork it out. >> Okay. >> So, you're saying I can't come to the 30th? >> The one on the 13th is just for the senior building. >> They said we can come.
>> They just said we could sell. >> Let's just get clarity on this. So, the 13th is only for the seniors, right? And the senior building people >> and so no one from out of the town will come, right? >> Not out of >> Belar.
Okay. So then you can't >> we can't have we can't everybody >> want you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We want to out there. >> So anybody from Belar ahead?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. minutes. >> So, we're back to the meeting. Have >> Right. Has uh everybody gotten a chance to review the January 5th meeting minutes? >> Yes.
>> Y Okay. So, do we have a show of approval for those minutes? >> First. >> Okay. >> Now, you go through uh Commissioner Anderson. >> Yes.
>> Yes. Mr. Sher, >> yes. >> Robinson, >> yes. >> Well, Jus isn't here. Ra, >> yes. >> Palendrano. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Now, we're going to review and approve
the bills for February. Can everybody see those? >> Well, why don't we come back to that then since she's the building person? No, I hear I had a question about it. >> I have a question with regards to the bills. >> Okay.
>> Um, as far as I didn't see with the scaffolding, how much do we pay for that every month? >> 1,500. >> All right. So, I didn't notice it on Unless it's under a different title. >> No, it may have come in after the bills were after the check. >> I'm sorry. Could they pass the microphone around?
>> Emanual. >> Is that possible? >> We can't hear >> to pass it. >> Yes. as soon as >> there was a question about one of the bills, the scaffolding, because it wasn't listed in the bills this month.
>> Uh Amy, who does all of the bills, is late to the meeting tonight. So, if Paul can't answer those questions, Oh, there you go. >> The bill probably came in after Amy had done the checks. Sometimes it gets frozen in the mail. So, next month we'll
probably pay for two months. >> Anybody else have any questions about >> the scaffolding? >> You're paying 1,500 for the scaffolding every month. >> No, >> that's what >> Anybody else?
>> Okay. Motion to approve the bills. >> Make a motion that we approve the bills for the first Okay. Uh, Anderson, I move that they be uh approved. >> Talk to the microphone a little bit closer.
>> Okay. Um, >> uh, Commissioner Sher, >> I apologize. >> Commissioner Robinson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Ramy, >> yes. >> Commissioner Palrano, >> yes. Okay.
Report of the executive director. >> Okay. We have a few updates to give you. Uh our attorney has drawn up the contract for the contractor. Uh we had to find a new attorney because the one we have
used uh is retiring. Uh the the second draft or the final draft should be in our hands probably tomorrow or Wednesday and then we'll forward it on to the contractor
to sign. The contract basically says that they'll do the the west side of the building and we have an option possibly of doing another side of the building if the funding uh is available. So, I think we may be able to do two sides of the
building. >> Uh, the >> this is a new one from last time. We had >> We do, but we don't have a contract. I mean, we had the lowest bid. >> We're dealing with the lowest bid.
uh with the weatherization program. Uh the report from the engineers has been written up and uh I'm meeting with the county person and the engineer uh next Tuesday at 10:00 a.m. We're going to do a Zoom call and go over his
recommendations. Without getting too much into specifics, some of the areas he thought might be addressed would be a a uh individual heat valve for each room >> so that people could adjust the heat.
>> He also might suggest some lighting, >> additional lighting. It's more efficient. and uh he has some suggestions for the ventilation system. >> So I think they're going to be the three uh areas, but I'll know better after our
meeting next. >> What was the last >> ventilation? Ventilation. >> Ventilation. >> And that would include the duck work. >> That would include the duck work. That's the duck work. Remember we talked about
the duck work? >> Yeah. Uh, as far as as snow removal, many of you are probably aware that the burrow has decided that uh they're no longer going to do the courtesy plowing. Uh, I know this is a concern for a
number of people. I signed a contract at least for this winter with a local landscaper who will do the plowing and the uh walkways. I want to I want to emphasize though that he's doing the the area of the parking lot and the
walkways. He does not do in between cars. That's something that uh it's not done. So people, if they need to get their cars, some of they're going to have to figure out another way of doing it. Couldn't they move? >> If they move them, he will plow the
space, but they have to be ready to move the when they show up or move them earlier. >> You have to all the car all the cars will have to be moved for him to plow the parking lot effectively. >> And how far in advance are you going to notice?
>> Yeah, but will they be notified that he's coming? I mean, how would that even work? >> Well, they have to look out for him. We don't get a specific time. >> Don't you think there should be >> And how will you be able to move your cars if it's not been plowed?
>> That's >> you move it before it snows. >> We got a suggestion. We got a parking lot over there. We could put them across the street before it snows and move them back after it snows and then we'd be ahead of the game. Little organization would go a long way, people ahead of time. If we think ahead of time, when we
know the storm is coming, and we usually know now with technology, we move the cars across the street, the guy plows, we're moving back. It's a real simple process. I've done it for 20 years on 18th Avenue. I never had a problem. Over here, we got a whole new
problem because of the burrow of Belmar refuses. The DPW got upset, but I told him how to do the job. Let me >> Okay, but we're not we're not talking about that portion right now. >> So, there should be a in regards to
>> Can you speak in the mic? >> Say in regards to the there should have been a plan in place prior to >> the snow in the mic. >> Yes. >> So, there'll be a there'll be a plan in place for the next time because we get the notification
from the burrow. >> About upcoming winter storms? They're very easy to get. >> They do put information out there. You have to register for that. >> But this is not hard. >> But if we could set up that process would not
be that hard. Um, Lou, you did say that they they will post they should post something in the elevator here in regards to, you know, anything that's going anything that's posted from the town basically as far as snow removal or anything like that. It should be made
aware in the building should be posted. >> Please use the microphone. >> Could we bring the microphone down? >> Use the microphone. We have people in the back of the room that cannot hear. >> This is a public meeting. public.
>> It's still a public meeting whe >> All right, we're now going to move on to correspondence. >> Do we have any correspondence? >> Hey, Paul, can I say something real quick about the cell? >> When we get to the public when we get to the public portion, that's when you guys
can speak. >> Uh, any old business? No, >> no business. New business. >> Uh, reports from the commissioners. >> I just want to emphasize on uh February 13th that you all show up because you're
going to miss uh a lovely lunch or brunch or whatever you want to call it. and uh a lot of good information that the um because a lot of things has been updated and you'd be surprised what you are entitled to. >> Okay. And then we'll be set up
>> agent office agent was just here >> and we'll be setting up more um events because there's different organizations within this side for senior citizens and you'll be surprised how much you're
missing out on it. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Do you have anything? >> No, I'm good. Thanks. >> So, for the rest and how about you, Janice? Did you want to say anything? >> No, I'm good. Thank you. >> Okay.
>> Now, I know that we uh discussed and Paul already reviewed that you're going to get a contractor to look at the duck work. That was one of your new business things. Uh the facade is already being taken
care of now. Not just one, but maybe two sides. You now have a actual contractor that's going to be plowing out the parking lot. And um whatchamacallit and I know that I don't
know whether the rest of the commissioners are aware that the uh tenants have formed a tenant association now. >> You wanted to say that you're on it. >> No, dropped off. >> No, they did not dropped off yet.
>> They did. >> Yeah, but along Yeah. >> Well, bingo is the other thing. >> That's correct. But now you have a new tenant association. >> Um >> Pat Juan is the president. >> Pat Juan is the president. >> Okay.
>> Yes. Pat stand up Patones. Debbie Jones is Debbie is the secretary. >> Secretary >> and then Missy is also on it. Right Missy, >> right? She's the correspondence person,
right? >> And and you. >> And you. >> And you. >> And you. Okay. Oh, and also there was another thing that we had discussed the uh last time I had spoken
to you wonderful folks that when you have something that needs to be done in your apartment, does everybody remember what the new process is now? >> Travel. >> That's right. Work order.
Double work orders. >> And how do you think how can they access those? Mike, >> the work orders will be placed in front of the camera over there in the lobby. They'll be right on camera with a pen. You fill them out and go from there. >> Okay. And that means the resident keeps a copy,
Mike keeps a copy, and then the third copy will go in a You said you had a um a folder that we can keep everything in. That way the commissioners are are uh ab breast and everybody's held accountable
for the work that has been requested and completed. >> When is the book going out? Like tomorrow? >> Be tomorrow morning out there. >> There you go. Tomorrow morning. >> I'll do it tonight after the meeting if that's even better. >> Fantastic.
>> Now does you said >> Okay. Hi, Lily. >> Oh, Maria's here. >> How you doing? >> Oh, I'm doing a lot better than last week. >> I I know. I can see that. >> I'm
uh one of the pendants here. I I didn't know yet that you had >> this public meeting now. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. >> We're not public meeting. >> No, we're not. >> What are we up to? I thought that's what you said. All right.
>> So, we have to open it up to the public. >> So, you can say you're opening up to >> Yes. Opening it up to the public now. >> Okay. >> So, can I say something to the public because I was in I was recommended here to come here for a public meeting. >> Okay. >> And that's what I want to know. What's next? What do you want my assistance?
What do I have to do to these people tonight to say that I do or don't do my job? Because Amy, >> they recommended I made I signed the paper because they wanted me to be here and I just want what they want from me. >> I understand, Mike. Hold on one second and we'll get to that.
>> Let's get to everybody else that's here first. >> Okay. >> And then >> I thought this take a preference, but >> Hi. Um I was the landscaper for 35 years from Belmar and the snow removal is a little tricky.
We don't get storms this big very often in Belmar. >> Thank you God. >> Uh but very rarely there's so that you one time you're done. It doesn't work that way. If you get two or three signs, you have to come back. Especially for little walkways and stuff like that.
Mike's idea open street is great, but it might be quite a while. Like it's something like this that we had where you know it takes it's terrible. I had five years in a row where I spent $10,000 on insurance for snow and we got
no snow in. So, you know, it's not that much of a big deal unless we get something like this. But the guy that they hired, he's good. He'll be fine. >> His name's Lou, too. >> Yeah, he'll be good. I'll help his name. >> That's all I wanted to say was it's not
just cut and fried thing. Every storm is different. You know, comes at night, comes in the morning. >> Well, this was the ice. >> The ice is what was the killer for this particular storm. >> Uh Paul, as part of the contract, is he
going to be salulting? >> Yes. God bless us everyone. >> Yeah, I was gonna ask >> He's a good one. >> I just thought I'd throw that in there. Anybody else? >> Let me >> Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. Here you go. Okay. Uh, thank you. Um, unfortunate that both our co-star reporter and I did not were not at the last meeting due to the mistake in the published schedules uh especially with all the new board
members. So, welcome aboard. Um, I have a question. Do you are records kept here for business going on? Uh, emails, paper letters, texts, phone calls.
Are records kept here? >> What kind of >> emails? Emails going back and forth or official business. >> To whom? Well, this is >> true. >> You're the um I know that for people that are on the council
>> Mhm. >> all emails need to be kept, texts, records. >> Um >> I'm asking to who as far as the emails and texts >> any of the commissioners >> if we're back and forth between us? >> Yes. Or or any public or anything like
that? >> No. Okay. >> You don't keep them. This is a >> No. Paul, you're the director of a federal facility and you're not keeping the records. >> No, I've never been advised or react to.
>> But you have a Belmar Housing Authority >> email specific to the Belmar Housing Authority. So, I'm sure that would be easy to access >> if any questions. The reason I'm I'm asking is uh you know that I sent you
uh an Oprah back in October asking for the uh a record of emails having to do with the weatherization program. I have it right here. >> I don't remember getting >> it's right here. And your response was
uh I do not keep emails. I delete them. >> I generally do. So, >> how do you reference things? >> I continue working with it. The the weatherization program or the people I'm meeting with next Tuesday,
>> but as a federal corporation, I believe there's probably a laws laws that say you have to seek keep everything. >> Thank you. >> Over on this side of the room. >> Okay. Uh I have something alive.
It's about the emergency plans. Um, we were talking about it'll be done when it gets done when it happens. That's taking a reactive approach. That doesn't help anything when something happens. You need a plan now
before something happens. I want to refresh people's memories. 2022. Well, we had the power outage here. 7 hours, no power. 33 hours. Elevator was
down. There was no emergency plans and no backup plan. People were in the dark. People recall they were left down here to 1000 p.m. at night
>> and Mike and Lyn help people walk up the stairs. >> My brother >> to get into their apartments. >> I couldn't even walk. >> Okay. At that the following housing authority meeting the tenants
the people who attended the meeting Shaw was here the other people from the public was here. Uh, and the tennis act, what is your plan when an emergency arises? And now we're here right again
four years later. There's no emergency plan. We need an emergency plan for natural, mechanical, structural crisis. This cannot be right.
You're putting our seniors risk lives at risk by not having any type of plan. >> That's wrong and they're suffering for it. >> There's no evacuation. >> But that's also an example of
um hold on a second. Port Ash. >> It's okay. like don't worry about it. >> Well, >> and if you cannot act on it immediately, >> screw it.
>> I suggest that the changes made the lavagement. >> Thank you. >> Wait, what did you say, Missy? >> I didn't hear you. >> The last the last
>> when you said after >> if you can't act on it immediately, there should be a change in management. >> Yes. one >> the emergency plan that she's been explaining that there is no emergency plan that she went back four years into the situation when there was no lights and this young woman had a broken leg
and was trapped down here for 10 and 1/2 hours and there was no plan for the elevator. There's no plan for evacuation. There's no plan for anything. Four years later, here we are. There's still no plan. So her final sentence was, "If there's still no plan
and there isn't going to be a plan, then maybe there should be a change in management." >> That's what Missy said. >> Is there evacuation plan? Is there an evacuation plan in place? >> If everyone if there was a fire, god
forbid, or another natural disaster, do you have an evacuation plan? >> Oh, okay. I wrote something up after that. >> But do >> I also want to point out that the elevator the power was out and the elevator was out 22 hours.
>> Uh we did the best we could to get the company here. They had to get parts. >> I've seen on the news where elevators have been out for 6 weeks for federal buildings. So I think we did pretty well. And we rebuilt that elevator so
that it's entirely almost entirely new >> system. And you know, four years ago, you can >> tell us. >> That's history. >> Communication. >> It's been taken care of. We we got it going. People that were down here had the option of getting assistance to go
up to the units. Some people declined. They'd stay down here and order takeout food. >> Uh, >> hold on a second. >> No, I'm not going to get into a public debate about it. I'm stating the question
police department when we had that power outage >> in 2022. The police were not notified. They had no idea that we needed help here. Mike was at a wedding that day. He wasn't
available. >> I was at a wedding. Yes. >> You came back? >> Yes. And I came back. I left the wedding to come back here. Yes. And to attend an emergency. Yes. When no one else came, the commissioners looked at us like, "Oh, we didn't know anything about it."
That's why you commissioners if you don't know what's going on >> with tennis in the building, but there's an emergency going on, a natural or mechanical emergency.
>> Do you have that? Commissioners, how how is correspondence available for the residents to the commissioners? >> There isn't any. >> There isn't any right now. >> There should be there should be the commissioners should have a number
posted on the board so people can contact them. That's a great idea going forward. And then things >> because the then the commissioner's numbers were are going to be posted on the board >> so that someone >> or many people
And four years ago was not history. >> Some of us still traumatized by that. I don't know there walked six flights of stairs that get up to my apartment. He fell down. >> You need to let them know that if they
have issues that they would get in contact with Paul with the director. >> Yes. So if you have issues then you should be getting in touch with Paul directly and I guess his number will become available for that.
>> Don't call the police for the nonsense. >> What can we just They refuse to have police protection in here. They didn't want the cops moving around checking on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Is that it?
>> I believe that there were several other people that wanted to speak. >> So, you can hand the money to pass it around. >> Just pass it around. >> Well, we're on to the next subject. >> Is there anyone else?
>> Come on into the light. >> Well, sorry. All right. So, what we need to do is probably go >> speaking. >> That's okay. I'm sorry. Are we still public? >> Yeah. Okay. Um Maria Rondaro, I just wanted to um first of all thank those
who did help with um the shoveling and the plowing. I know Joe Makavoy is here, a resident who came and helped with the shoveling in the parking lot. um Councilwoman uh Caitlyn Donovan came over and helped at the parking lot as
well as our RDPW. Um and so thank you to all of you who took the time um and really risked yourselves which I think was a very scary thing to do um to to shovel out in such conditions. Um, but I wanted to know what preparations were
made prior to the storm because the, you know, we all in in New Jersey had probably two weeks of knowing that this big storm was coming. It was an emergency from the state. Um, I know that >> can we listen to Maria? I know that
there were questions about um how much salt we had on hand, who was, you know, and I just wanted to know um clearly there was miscommunication as to who was plowing the driveway, but ultimately what plans were in place for the upcoming storm. Mike,
>> do you want me to handle this? >> Sure. I mean, I guess Paul Paul's your go-to guy. >> My question is for Paul, but Mike, that's fine. Paul handle. >> All right. Preparations.
Uh Mike had purchased salt. We always buy salt. We buy a quantity beginning of the season. So I don't know how much he bought or was any if any was left, but it's an ongoing thing. If we run out of salt, we get it from either uh Taylor's
or Home Depot. Uh there was no other preparation made because frankly the burrow has been doing it for years and years as a courtesy. And we really don't had we never had to do anything. They just come up, plow it, clear the walkways, and leave. We had an incident
this time because somebody uh thought they they should be supervising the burrow employees and made some inappropriate comments and actually talked down to them. And this I got from
uh the head of public works department. Okay. I got the story firsthand. Uh the aggravation got to a point where they the workers called Billy to come here. Billy came here and then he got
some verbal abuse. So he pulled the crew. That's how it we got to this point. Okay. >> I got a call in the morning. >> I got a call in the morning saying, you know, they're not doing by the they're not doing by the rails and and raining
and raving. uh and they're not doing a good job and they're leaving snow out on the intersection and they're telling me it's a state road, a county road that they don't have to do it, this and that. And I I said, "Look, just let them do their
job. We'll deal with it afterwards." I did say that if they didn't plow, my expectation was that you that an apology was in order. None was given. It took me several days to get a because Billy was very busy >> obviously plowing. But
>> I finally got what had occurred on that corner. So that's why we were in that situation at that point. Since that time, as I said, we I signed a contract with a landscaping company and they will come
and plow and do the walkways. So hopefully we won't have this situation again. Also want to point out this was a very unusual storm as everybody knows. I'm still scraping ice and trying to clear up my sidewalk. So,
it's it's one of those one every 10 year type storms. It was consolid I understand that one of the suggestions and I don't know whether this happened so forgive me if it if it happened but were was there communications like um signs in the elevator or signs in the
hallway saying a big storm is coming please move your car or you may be snowed in or you know please use caution while you know traversing the walkways since it may be icy. No, no, >> I I I
>> I mean it was all over the >> It's all over the news. You have to live in a >> I I understand. But I I think in the future perhaps just a suggestion if we have more communication as to what we need to do with the snow or do we need
to move our cars? Can you move your cars? Um because this was something that even though for us it was a 10-year, you know, storm and I mean even, you know, across the street, we couldn't get my neighbor out for three days. Um you know, it's not that people don't care.
It was a crazy storm. Uh, but I'm wondering whether we could um boost the communication among all of the residents, not just the burrow, but the residents and the burrow prior to these storms of what is the expectation from
who to do what? Oh, if if somebody within the building is on the link, I don't know if anybody signed up for it, but maybe you could get the information maybe the burrow the information the burrow for people to sign up so they'll
get it on their cell phone. >> The nixel >> the text and I also get an email. >> Yeah. >> So, the system's already there that people just have to individual. >> They're saying the Wi-Fi doesn't work >> in the building.
>> You have to get your own personal Wi-Fi. >> You have to buy your own. >> So there's no Wi-Fi. >> There's no Wi-Fi. >> There's Wi-Fi on the first floor. >> On the first floor. >> So maybe there can be a print out if some if a Nixel comes out. Maybe there can be a print an expectation that a print out um goes in the elevators and
the hallways. Oh, I like to keep it in the bulletin board because the elevators, you know, you start posting a lot of things in the elevator. >> Okay. >> People write on it. They they make comments on it. >> Maybe the doors then if it's an emergency.
>> Um and then I guess following up, can the commissioners have key fobs? I know that um you know, currently you have key fobs for um you know, your the the staff here, the residents. Um but being that we have a new set of commissioners,
congratulations everyone. Thank you for your your service. Um we have new commissioners. It would be nice if they had access to the building that they are to advocate for and to help funding for. Is that something that could be considered? >> I haven't done this for 27 years. I
never had one. I'm sorry. What did you say? >> What were you saying? >> What were you just saying? >> Whatever. How do you get authorized to get a >> Is that something we could look into?
>> That's easy. >> So then maybe we should have >> They wants the commissioners want fobs to get into the building. >> How many commissioners would like a fob? >> They're debating it and then they're seeing how they can get it. No. So,
we're we just >> we'll have key fobs by >> So, they're going to authorize making a FOB. >> Okay. >> So, that's going to be done. >> Okay. >> I'll have it for the next meeting. >> There you go. >> Great.
>> And so, and then my last thing is the current. So, I know that the salt was purchased. Clearly, everyone has a shortage of salt. Is there enough salt on hand now being that unfortunately this deep freeze is going to continue? Do we have enough salt now?
>> Can I have the microphone? Yes or no? >> Prior to the storm. >> Yes or no? >> I took prep. >> You have to move away from >> move away. >> I made >> You have to move. >> Prior to the storm, I took precautions.
I ordered six shovels. Two floor plastic, two pushers, two plastic to puff to carry, two metal shovels to cut ice. I tried to get 12 bags of salt, but they wouldn't allow it. They would only sell me one. But then I begged and they gave me another bag. Okay.
>> Then I had two bags from last year. So we have four bags of salt. I used six already that I spread on the sidewalks during the storm. We had 10 all together. >> That's a prep I did. >> Now, as far as what happened the other
day, >> can anybody hear me without this? >> Yeah. The other day >> when this happened, >> the storm was bad. We haven't had one like this in a while. Everybody was on short fuses for whatever.
>> The guys came here, the DPW, these are good guys. I praise them when they do good and I reprimand them when they do bad. And they were bad this time. And the reason why is this. They came here like an army. They started going through here. Nobody really knew what they were doing. Just
going like this and going around. And I asked the man, "You're going down the center of the driveway. We got handrails on both sides. The driveway is 20 ft wide. You got to do one side or the other for the safety of the residents." They say, "I got to call Billy. Call
Billy. Let's get it done right. If you're doing it as a courtesy, let's please do it right." boy. Then during the whole time, the girl in the big machine, she picks up the snow, dumps it on the state medium. And I watched this and I got
upset and I says, "Hey, you got to move that." No, that's state property. Then why'd you put it there? Put it up on THE GRASS WHERE IT BELONGS, OUT OF THE WAY. They were upset with me. I was upset because they weren't doing it right. Then they went down the center and asked them one side to the rail. They kind of
call Billy. George in the intern starts to shovel out the middle of the island. It's eight feet high of the machine dump there. George is there with a shovel dumping a 70-year-old man. Sir, get away. I can do it myself. George, let me help you. No, don't do that. Go to
George. Okay. Billy pulls up in his truck, sees George shoveling this big pile of snow. Impossible. Billy starts screaming at George. George points to me. Billy turns around and says, "Oh, it's you. You're
the guy HAD THE PROBLEM WRITING ALL THIS WITH THE RECYCLABLES. YOU DIDN'T PUT THE RIGHT STICKERS ON the machine. This is what the man said to me during a snowstorm." And I'm wrong. I said, "Excuse me, I'm caring about my safety for the residents to get through here safely. Can you please open that up?"
"No, we do this as a courtesy and we're not coming back here anymore." That's what he said. And they left and they didn't come back. And that's the God's honest truth, people. That is the God's honest truth, Paul. And that's exactly what happened. You heard the story from Billy. You, everybody wrote in the paper. Nobody asked me if I did any prep
work. I got six shovels for one man. I gave anybody else. The guy Jimmy upstairs helped me break the ice and do everything. They was able to do it. I appreciated his help. I paid him out of my own personal pocket, by the way, too. And what else am I supposed to do? What
else did you want me to do? Is there anything else I could have done? Oh, yes. I could HAVE DONE MORE. I DID DO MORE. All the storms in the past. I took a snowblower, my own personal blower, and I went between the cars and I cleaned as a courtesy. And that's where
it came from. I did that as my own. I did it. I couldn't do it because I didn't have any equipment that was broken. I asked you, Paul, for equipment two years ago. You told me I didn't need it. It was a burrow's responsibility. It wasn't my responsibility. That's what you told me. Now, if it was, you said
that to me, didn't you? >> Yeah, I did. >> Okay. So if it was my responsibility this storm calm down this is over. >> I'm upset. I'm very upset. >> Talk to upset.
>> I've been a superintendent 50 years of my life. Okay. And I handled many storms and many blizzards. Never in my life I seen one like this because the DPW had a problem with me personally. Billy Massudo had a problem with me and he took it out on the whole building. all
the seniors of this town and it's not right. And then the mayor, the mayor to write, we do it as a courtesy FOR OUR SENIORS. YEAH. WHO ALL DO WE NEED HELP? OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. EVERY TOWN DOES IT FOR THE SENIORS. ASBURY, NEPTUNE, MANISQUAN, WALL, BRADLEY, ALL
OF THEM DO IT FOR THEIR SENIORS. And Belmar says, "We do it as a cursed. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT NO MORE." WHOA. Because we asked you to do it right. You're not going to do it no more. Thank you. That's all I have to say. All right. That's the truth.
>> And you shoveled out the res. >> And I shoveled out the residents, too. As many as I could help out, by the way. >> We don't own a snowblower. >> No, we don't own a snowblower here. No. I tried to get one. I was told I didn't need it. I would never use it. >> We've never owned one.
>> We owned one in the beginning when I came here eight years ago. Yes. And it was broken. And then they said they said we didn't need to get it repaired. We would never use it again. And that was the end of that. >> How could you not need a snowblower? >> I know. That's what I try to figure out. How could you not use it >> with 50 residents? >> I'm sorry.
>> That's the truth. >> I believe you. >> And only one person here, by the way. Me, by the way. 24/7. Okay. >> One person. One person. >> And then you want you got to responsibility on me to do the whole parking lot at the end of the storm because I told the guys, asking to do it, right?
>> One person. No, we need to everybody does can have sidebar conversation. >> It broke and it's not fixed. >> And also he had a few years ago and it's broken and they never got it fixed. >> And also during the storm it was very
cold as you all know. The windows in this building are terrible. The wind was blowing through so bad. It was 52 degrees in some of the apartments. I went in there, taped up plastic, and I got the apartments up to 62 and 64 degrees to help the residents during the storm also. >> And you sealed you sealed the windows.
>> And I sealed them up, too, the best I can. >> 5:00 at night doing that, >> but that's okay. I do the best I can for MY RESIDENTS HERE. MY MY LAST UM MY last um question as far as um like what we're expecting for the next storms do or for the next few days.
Do we have a plan for salting to make sure that the that the >> Maria I will salt I I have >> four bags. What else do you need? >> I have four bags of salt left which is um 200 lb. They're 50 lb bags. I've been
using it sparingly and I'm only going to use it on the immediate sidewalks that I thought I was responsible for. That's what I would do. I never leaves ice for someone to get hurt on. It's it's ridiculous. >> Do we need more professional help for the I right now what we're dealing with right now in the
next month? Do we need the these folks at this landscaping or whomever is >> if they have a bobcat to have the right equipment? If we if somebody has a bobcat, we need a bobcat to move the snow to the right spaces so everything can be cleaned up. It's all ice. That's what we need. Maybe that's you can look into the
parking lot to be >> salted. Do we have a spreader for the salting or >> we have we have a landscaper. Now this is all done. >> Is it fired? He'll do the job. I'm telling you
a pain in the butt. Tell you right now you could do it one time for a woman that happens three four five times. Mike killed himself. I should not be in trouble still. No way. You call here at 2 o'clock in the morning, you answer the phone.
Since I've been here, >> very lucky I have both of those guys. I've been here 14 years. >> But um the conditions we have now are are ice like the landscaper won't come out to salt the sidewalk because now the sand the snow that's melting now tonight
is going to ice over. >> They will they will come their responsibility. But are we are they they're not even listening. They're not even listening. So are they contracted for that? I doubt it. I doubt they're just >> So I mean like like today or tomorrow they should be ice salting again because
of the snows melting and it and your parking lot's going to be black ice. >> So is is that planned? Is somebody going to be >> Yeah. The land that they hired should be doing that automatically. >> So is that >> I'm sure Paul will talk to him about it. >> Look, let's have one conversation. Where
is the microphone by the way? It's over here. >> Well, it's not doing very well over there, is it? >> No. >> Stop talking. >> I think tomorrow, Mike, take a look outside. See what you can do. I've been sh I Everything's melting.
>> So, with a shovel, it's coming right up. >> Today was 34 degrees. The first day, first day, 34 degrees. I agree with you. >> And tomorrow, it's supposed to be the same. So let's you know let's shovel as much as we can get up because I'll tell you the small on the other hand too eats
eats the drive eats the parking lot. >> You say let's shovel. There's only one shovel in me. You're telling me to get out there and shovel that parking LOT. YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND. >> YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND. YOU WANT ME to shovel? >> All right. I'm not addressing you anymore. >> Well, you want to parking lot? >> Anybody?
>> Is that what he just said to me? I would just like to say decor and uh professionalism go a lot whether it's the town or on the site here. I think we need to work together in a professional and cordial manner and I hope we can take it from here on to continue.
>> You want to do it? You want to go first? >> I don't need the microphone. Okay, good. >> Missy manly contacted me all >> Joe Makavoy 700 Main Street. >> Anita, can I listen in please? >> Thank you.
>> I'm sorry Joe >> MCOM is don't talk when somebody else is talking. >> Well, the commissioners are all talking when the public's supposed to be talking. >> I have to hand it to you. Yeah. So Missy got in touch with me uh
through email and unfortunately I don't check my email that often probably every three days. So I was a day late getting her email. I immediately called Councilwoman Dunovan who was in Trenton at the time and she made a call to Billy
MTO and smooth things over. I don't know what transpired before that, but they sent uh one of the guys from DPW over with one of the Bobcats to clear the crosswalk. And I know that's the state's responsibility, but that's a lifeline for the seniors who
don't have cars, >> right? >> And don't have neighbors or don't, you know, who don't have anybody they can contact immediately to get food. They were prepared, you know, from with supplies from Dollar Tree or wherever they had to get in town
>> for one storm and thank God we didn't have that second one, >> you know, on uh on Sunday again. What you have to realize is you're just rolling the dice because eventually you're going to have a snow emergency or a winter storm this bad and you're going
to have a power outage in the building. All right? And you're going to lose heat because you have electric heat here. Is that correct? >> Do you have backup generator? >> No, we have generators. >> You got generators. Okay. I'm sorry. >> We have a generator. We'll run the boilers. >> The other thing is forget about the
salt. You got all the sand in the world half a mile east of here. >> Yeah, that's true. >> Just go grab some DPW can get on that load. >> Give you a scoop of sand off the beach. Look, we got a mayor who if it's not in
the code book, he can't think out of the box. >> And it's true. It's true. I'm embarrassed. I helped him get elected. He's an honest He's an honest He's an honest man and he's concerned about you. But if it's not in that code books, he can't figure it out. All you have to do
is send a loader down to the beach, clear off 2 ft of snow from the beach, take a bucket of sand, and bring it over here. And you can spread it as needed. >> Mike mentioned that you have like 200 pounds of salt here, right? >> We have 200 lb of salt right now, which is four bags. Doesn't go very far once
you start spreading it. Especially when you have a >> we have a 100 foot driveway with 20 foot wide. Okay. >> Right. >> You need two tons of salt to do the parking lot, not four bags, >> you know. And again,
>> we can call up we can call up Jersey >> gravel and get a road mix delivered to our parking lot and we can solve our problem by ourselves. You get a road mix delivered. You can get two tons of road mix delivered and we can spread it that by shovel. I have no problem with that.
>> It's co-op jersey gravel. The deliver road mix. Road mix consists of salt and sand combination. It's made for the parking lot, not the sidewalks. >> Okay. Is that something that >> what I would be doing if I was at my property when I'm doing it?
>> It's what I would do >> something we can call and get done over here. >> Part of that is if you do something like that, >> you need somebody to pay for we need a credit card to pay for it. We can get it here tomorrow. >> They would bill us for it. >> No, they won't.
>> We don't have an account with them. They may Amy, I don't know. I can't answer that. But if we don't have an account, information. >> Well, we're getting not getting it under the town. We're getting under Belmont Housing. >> You know what I mean? We got to pay for
a delivery because if we get a town truck, you can get if somebody can if somebody can use a connection in town and get us a road mix with a truck and save us money. That'll be good. That would be appreciated. >> Jimmy, you still need a road mix. I know I know Lewis. I know LJ. I know LJ
landscaping for over 30 years. Jimmy, I know Lewis for 30 years. Okay. I didn't tell this man. Okay. >> It's a good job. I don't understand. >> And I know he's expensive. And I know also >> that if you don't give him directions, he'll do the job that they do without direction. People need direction to do
the job. I'm sorry. >> He's a good guy, but >> I know rules. Personally, when you got different men working for you, Jimmy, you got to be responsible for your men also. >> Okay. >> Who was next? >> Anita Buckley. First Avenue. Last I was here, there was discussion about the
windows. how the air is coming in. The residents are cold. The uh the winds, the the crazy crazy high winds that we're getting late of the last couple of years are affecting their quality of life. Their apartments are cold. There's
there's holes in in the bricks, the the walls with all this above and beyond the facade, the windows. So, the solution was these inserts of windows. Uh, I understand the insert went in and the
heavy wind coming in from the building blew the insert out and almost hit uh an elderly resident. So, now the inserts are not an option anymore. So, um, where do we stand on that?
>> He's put the plastic on the windows. He taped it and that >> I think I think Paul should handle that. Well, the insert didn't work obviously. So, we got >> Mike has been trying to seal it up as best we can. >> Hold on a second. >> With plastic.
>> The um the residents would appreciate you if you use the microphone. >> Do you have it on your window? >> Okay. One, >> one conversation. >> That's it. any anybody that's had an issue with the the drafts has reached
out to Mike and Mike is has tried to seal it as best as he can. >> Uh as far as the cracks in the in the uh brick >> that should be taken care of once the in the west side is the worst side. >> That's the side they're going to do
first. >> So within 60 days they'll begin work on the west on the west side of the building. What about the window project? The inserts didn't work. So, where do we go from there? >> Right now, the we can't we there's no
money available to do anything to that extreme that extent. We got a price for 15 windows uh $105,000. >> Has there been any research on funding? any research on funding or or um
>> any any any research on money like when Maria when Maria went out to um Chris Smith for the uh facade money, you know, she went Maria Maria went to Chris Smith and got all the facade money. Is there anybody any commissioners or or yourself
going thinking outside the box and looking for money? >> Well, first of all, we have to spend the money we have and that's the first priority. And and >> so nothing's gonna be done to the windows. >> So nothing's not happening to the windows.
>> Anita, to answer your question, we are looking into and researching things in regards to >> He just said you weren't. >> The commissioners are >> Yeah, >> we are. We've had discuss >> you had commissioner reports in the
meeting and nobody said anything. >> Did you let me finish? >> Go ahead. So we have several new commissioners on >> all right. So that and we are working and looking into things that would you know a lot of things are systems that need to be put in place.
>> Okay. that and communication and I think that there should be >> bank >> that they have already contacted >> bank carney bank >> and I have uh somebody else researching
some of the grants that um other municipalities have used and he is going to uh help us with that. So I >> getting money for through a grant. You have to write the grant. You have a new
tenant association now that just formed two weeks ago. And Pat said she had extensive experience >> in grant writing >> with grant writing. >> And Missy had done some research. I did
some research. And so we're looking into have the windows replaced because replacing the windows is really the only thing that's going to fix the problem. >> Exactly. >> Yes. >> Wonderful. I'm so happy you're saying all that. I just wonder why you didn't
say that during the commissioner's report in the meeting. I'm very impressed that this is happening. I'm But during the meeting there was are there any reports from the commissioners? So why would like I wouldn't have this question had you made that public that you were doing all this
research that to me to me that seems but whatever I'm glad I'm wonderful I'm thrilled that you're doing this this is wonderful this is progress congratulations thank you keep it up let's hope it materializes
You have something to say. You want the microphone? >> Doesn't matter. >> I don't need the microphone. >> You do. >> I don't need that. >> I can talk loud enough. >> Um I am one of the residents here. I've
been here for four years now. Um, I remember the first uh second week I I moved here into this place. I'm walking down this sidewalk here >> and I heard noise on the building itself. I don't know what was going on,
but a couple seconds later, a brick come down in front of me. >> I don't know. You guys are getting these bricks done. >> I was I don't I'm not aware of any brick falling off the building. I looked I looked every inch of this building. There's not one brick, but something there's no brick. Not a brick, Ned.
>> All right, I'm not going to worry about that. Break not fall. >> Let him Let him speak. Let him speak. >> The the uh this that the stuff that happened to me on Monday last week doing the trying to shovel in between my car. I got all the
way around with my windows, got them cleaned. But when I started shoveling the snow, the that much ice on top of it, >> um, I ended up falling into it,
>> taking my head on the the ice, my arms and legs into the snow with the ice also. And I'm yelling and screaming for somebody to help me because I thought there might have been somebody outside. I I I couldn't hear I couldn't Nobody
showed up to help me out. >> Um I was yelling for a good five minutes before I forced myself to get up by holding young lady's car there and my car to get myself up on the ground. I You guys are
saying we have to shovel our own snow between the cars. >> I get that. Not if there's ice on it, but um I couldn't do it. And I'm I I it don't bother me to shovel snow, but it
what happened was that when I fell, it was like I got a big bruise on my arm here and a big bruise on my leg here from doing from that fall. And you know it's >> I had to pay somebody
>> 20 bucks to please clear to clear my stuff where I can get in and out of my car and I can get the car out. >> You know, I don't think any tenant in this building should be paying anybody. >> That's right. >> To clear in between the cars
>> and we just talked about the resolution for that. Correct. >> Yeah. >> And people did come over to to start helping. It was very unfortunate that you fell and we're very sorry you got hurt. But now you have a private contractor is going to come in here and
be doing that to be proactive with the future. >> But the private contractor is not going to shovel between the cars. >> Move your car. >> But I wasn't the only one that paid somebody else. >> We understand that. >> Clean that up. >> We a lot of us are over 60 70 years old.
You expect us to get out there and shovel between when we can't >> that's why there's going to have to be a new plan in place >> for the next storm. >> Yeah. When I went to we had our meeting tenants meeting here >> right >> that the other day and I went over to
the township and said something about >> who who's in responsible for >> the removal of talking >> and they told me about the courtesy part of it that what they do. I told them they did a bad job >> job,
>> you know, and that's that, you know, I was just >> Yeah. >> letting them know how bad the job was done. One lane going through the whole place. >> And we discussed that at length tonight, right, Ed? >> It was just Yeah. I'm I'm just I don't
want to ever have to go through something like that. >> That's why we're going to have That's why there's a new person. I know a new plan is now in place, but the it's going to take responsibility of people that have cars in this building to
>> get them hooked up with the Nixl so you and maybe watch the news when a snowstorm's coming and have a place to move your car so that the parking lot can be cleared
effectively and then salted effectively. way. >> Yeah. So, that plan's already in place. >> We fixed that part. >> And I'm sorry that you went through what you had to go through last week. >> What's the best chance?
>> Okay. Suggestion, you have a suggestion about the snow, >> the snow back between the space. A couple of suggestions. What about contacting St. Rose High School and
seeing if they have a community service that they could fulfill those community service requirement send some kids over. The other suggestion is Boy Scouts >> at Belar >> have the community come over and help.
And the third suggestion, Joe has a Facebook >> Belar West Belmore Lake residents >> and there are many people on that group I'm sure that be willing to come over and help out
>> with the snow being removed off the cars and between the cars. >> What do you think? >> The problem I'm concerned about in there anytime. So, we'll do that. We'll we'll post that, >> right? >> Yeah.
>> Well, there is the insurance and the ice. >> As Ed can tell you, it's treacherous. >> I fell a few times, but I bounce, Ed. I'll have to teach you how to bounce. >> Um, >> but we can we can get community people
to help. And it's true. the Boy Scouts and the high school kids, they need that for community service. Actually, that's very beneficial to them as well as you >> and St. Rose. They might have they might
have the good shoes. >> We can when it when the township through the street, you have both sides. >> Yeah. >> To park your car. That's right. Rotate the car even. And if you need help moving your car,
>> everybody moves the car. One more group. >> One more group. >> The CrossFit people >> on 8th Avenue. Why not make it a win-win situation? They're helping us out. They're getting a workout.
>> Well, we can put that on on the Facebook page as well because people respond. Joe has how many followers, Joe? >> Well, they're all locals. They're all locals and they're like at least a few. And there are a few thousand. What? >> Locals.
>> Yeah. A few thousand. >> Locals. >> No. No. Not that one. >> Snarky. >> No, not that one. >> Lou, you also got to remember um Goodwill Hose has to stay, you know, at the fire station.
>> That's right. that. And Chip is the type of guy >> if he could get some of Miss Ellen's ribs or chicken, he would send a couple guys, >> he would send a couple guys down to shovel out cars cuz you know, >> give the fire department a couple of pieces of chicken, right?
>> And they'd still be only a block away. So if a call come in came in, they >> That's right. See, it's all win-win. Community helping community. >> That's what you got to do. You just got to think out of the box a little bit. >> How hard is that? Boys, are there any other comments? Sort
it all out. >> Any other comments from the public? >> Yeah, I just want to thank Michael and Jimmy. My name is Len. I'm on the third floor. Both of my front tires were encased in ice, and they both helped me out. I'm greatly appreciative of that. But they did get some soup.
>> Well, that was very good. See, win. >> Both of them got my homemade soup. >> Homemade soup. Yes. How else can I >> Okay, so on that note, I guess uh the meeting will be adjourned now. >> No, wait a minute.
>> I have this public address that I'm going to be recommended. I have a letter here from my boss that says you want to recommend me in front of the public and everybody in this room. Oh, this letter says >> that's not what it says. >> That's not what you sign. >> What do I sign? >> This was the episode.
>> This is the episode. Yeah, but you have one side of the story. You have my inside and you make You're going to recommend me. Yes. I want to know what how am I going to be reprimanded, Paul? Am I going to be losing my job because of this? Now, it says that. I just want to know. You said it's going to be terminated. >> What do you want to know now? >> Yeah, we want to know, too. >> I'm gone.
>> So, I'm gone. That's what you're saying. >> No, that's not what it say. >> That's not what it says. >> Not what it says. No >> library. >> Well, it says it the uh during the recent snowstorm
uh >> this is a personnel issue. >> Yes, it's a personnel issue, >> not a public issue, >> but he >> Well, you made me sign that paper saying you do it in public. You said they can have it in private meeting or public meeting. You're gonna recommend me in public or private? >> Okay, Mike, I'm gonna explain to you how
this works. Okay? So, please, I need you to calm down first. Okay? >> We were going to go into executive discussion tonight to just advise the board what took place. That's all that was happening. The rice notice that you legally have to get was served to you to
let you know that yes, you could have that done in public, but there was nothing being reprimanded or anything. >> Well, that letter says I'm being reprimanded. >> That's different. That I got letters both letter at the same time. Amy hand me both letter at the same time. So I assume that it's the same thing.
>> Okay. It's different. >> One is different than the other. >> Okay. It is. >> So if you'd like to reviewing what took place and how you handled it. >> That's all it was.
So basically the >> Can we use the microphone? >> Basically the letters the uh notice states that because what occurred in the day with the department of public works
uh trying to supervise burrow employees and what was described as talking down to them. that this behavior is uh not acceptable.
It's a reflection on poor it reflects poorly on the housing authority and interfere inter and interfered with essential operations. >> The request to the safety of my residents is interfering with the operations of the building. That's
crazy. >> No, you you have you have no you have no say uh over the employees of the burrow of Belmont. I know that. I know that, Paul. >> And your and your behavior, which you've demonstrated today, is the reason we had
the problem. >> Cuz I get excited when something's wrong. I got to pick it up. >> You got to learn to stop doing it. >> Well, when the when when the DT the DPW stops dumping snow on state property where we got to cross. >> That's not your concern. >> It's my concern. It's my crosswalk.
It's >> not my concern. The point of the matter is there's an better way to handle those kind of circumstances. >> I'm sure there is. >> But and like I'm Listen, I get where you're coming from. >> I would be upset, too. I've been in this
building for over 26 years and care about every resident in this building. >> I know you do. You really do. I know you do. >> And I'm understanding where you're coming from. But it's the way it's handled >> being >> being in a limelight of working in Mike.
Please let me speak. Okay. Thank you. Being in the limelight of public, there's a way you have to present yourself. Okay? And there's a way not to present yourself. I.e. not put it on
Facebook. go to the executive director or if he can't be reached me or one of the commissioners and we will go higher up to get it taken care of. I know Billy must very well worked
with them for 20 years. >> I could have made a call but Mike please let me talk >> so that we can calm everybody down. Okay. It's just we need to just presentation. It's what it's all about.
What's the saying? You get more with honey than vinegar. >> Who did I call for you? Okay. You told me what was going on. That's >> I called the mayor. >> Okay. Right. Didn't I? >> Yes, you did, Ellen. >> Okay. That's it. I don't need that. I don't want it at all.
>> So, I that's all that needs to be said at this point. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Could I just say that if you look at the videos from way back, I'm sorry if I'm upsetting you. Um, the way I've been treated by the executive commissioners yelled at me, screamed at me, told me I have no business here. So,
I think, you know, if we're going to say that, we should say that, too. Thank you so much. Good night. >> Good night. >> Do I have a motion? >> Do you need help? >> You got it right.
I don't need a microphone. I have a big mouth. >> Yeah, because I only have one hand. >> I've only been here a year. This is my first year. Um, and thanks Joan for nominating me. any time.
>> You can handle it. I know you could handle it. >> I appreciate it. This storm was so different from anything. And I've been here 45 years in this town. Never had an ice storm like this. Everybody's patience was just cut. We didn't know where we were going. We knew the storm
was coming. It's like Sandy. We knew a hurricane was coming. Did we know it was going to devastate the East Coast? No. Did we know this was going to happen? No. Billy Musco was overwhelmed with work. >> Mike was overwhelmed, scared to death of
what's going to happen to us. And I'll tell you something about Mike that I thought was amazing. Like I said, I've only been here a year. When Missy went into the hospital, I don't know, months ago, Missy, whenever you were, and I was coming in from my car and I saw her
carriage uh tied up to the pole by the the walkway. Mike knowing she was coming out got it and tied it up for her so she would have something to hold on to. That's pretty damn thoughtful. I I really thought that was pretty damn thought.
>> And Mike does. >> All right, Mike, you get a little upset. That's okay. >> But basically, his heart is in the right places. >> Yes, it is. >> Yes, it is. >> It really is. And like I said, I'm only here a year. I haven't seen what all of you have seen. But I've just seen kind
hearts around here. It's wonderful. And now that we have a voice and you guys, the commissioners can hear us and help us. It's wonderful. And we can make this an awesome place, which it really is. >> And I I just want to thank you for listening to us. Thanks, Louie, for all
the help getting this stuff to the commissioners. It's only going to make life better. And it's pretty good now anyway. But thanks very much. You see why That's right. She was a former council woman. >> That's right.
>> She knows. She was a council woman. Pat >> right here in this town for many years. >> My daughter got um >> see you want to run again. >> She doesn't walk across the street of meetings for God's sake. You need to let
them know that we have >> session. >> Okay. So now it's uh I guess this is close now and we'll see you next time. Ha.