again for a pledge of allegiance. I >> pledge alg to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all. >> Thank you. I was just about to say >> we used to say that >> this meeting has been called in accordance with the provisions of the open public meeting act and that an announcement of the same has been mailed to the local newspapers and to the clerk
of the burrow of Elmar and that the minutes of this meeting will be available after board approval and at a subsequent meeting. >> Roll call. >> Roll call. Okay. Ro, I'm here. >> Orchard
>> here. >> McCracken >> here. >> Robinson absent. >> Cash >> here. >> Ram Remy >> here. >> Have a quum.
>> Thank you. Okay. the minutes for the July 27th meeting. Um, I actually need approval. I have to say >> what actually they're asking for approval for
the July 27th >> I mean >> okay July >> I think she might have forgot to put it in just in qualifying She can take. >> Okay. So, approval. A second. I'll
second it. >> Okay. We also need approval. >> I'm sorry. >> You're abstaining. Okay. >> Yeah. I have to abstain also. >> Okay. >> Yes. Cassidly,
>> yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> No. >> Oh, >> okay. Okay. We also need approval for the
minutes for um August 4th. And again, I have to >> I'll make a motion. I'll second. >> Roll call for that. I mean, >> so >> you're abstaining. >> I have no choice. Yes. >> So you're a >> Yes.
>> You're a yes. McCracken >> abstain. >> Abstain. Robinson, was she here? >> Anyhow. >> Okay. Second. Someone second. Yes, Ellen did
>> okay. >> Casually we were here >> and Miss Sano, I believe, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> We don't know. >> Okay. And we're going to review the um
bill for the September 7th. Anybody has any questions? And have you had a chance to review them? May I ask a question, Paul? >> Sure. >> Is it any we paid a monthly maintenance bill for the elevators? Everything come
up to standard with the elevator when they did the maintenance. >> Uh, no. We we still have an issue with the phone in number one. >> Okay. Thank you. >> The phone. >> The elevator phone. Yes. I'm fighting with Jersey Elevator about it now. Any
other questions? >> If not, I'll make a move to pass it. >> Second. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> And Maria. >> Okay. We have some resolutions.
>> Okay. We have to schedule a meeting open to the residents. >> I'm sorry. Please use the microphone. >> We're going to schedule we need to schedule a meeting to review uh the five-year plan uh from HUD.
Um what we do is we notify each of the tenants and they're welcome to attend the meeting. There was no particular time frame. So, we're going to go with the uh 17th
at 100 p.m. >> So, everybody will get a notice uh at their unit >> of this month, September. September >> September 17th. It's 1:00, right? >> 1:00 and it'll be here.
>> What day is that? >> Uh, we look uh >> we found another engineering company that does audits and uh energy audits. They're located
out of Philadelphia. They seem to know what they're doing. They have a number of big accounts in Philly. And so, uh, we're going to provide them, we sent them pictures, and we're going to provide them with, uh, bills, utility
bills, and they're going to come out and hopefully if the price is right, they're going to come out and do an alert. So, they'll look at windows, they look at all the energy losses, and make recommendations. >> Awesome. I'm sorry. I was kind of
thinking out loud. >> Paul, we have a name for the company. Yes, it's Innova Building Advisors. >> There Innova I N Ova >> Building Advisors
LLC. >> Thank you. >> Uh, as I mentioned, we still have an issue with number one elevator with the phone and we're working that through with Jersey Elevator.
As far as units, we filled two of the four units. Uh both people are uh local within town. Uh we have two more units we're working on. Um I don't know which one will be
finished first. The one the family didn't really clear it out, so we had to deal with removing more things out of the unit. And the the other one, the twobedroom, which needs a total renovation. We're actively working on
that. Kitchen cabinets have been put in and uh I believe the carpeting's been replaced and that'll be available. One of them will be available mid-occtober. That's what I'm told.
Uh so the waiting list will close. Newspaper guy isn't here today as me. I was hoping he'd be here. It'll close uh 9:19, which is two weeks from Friday. We have presently 21 people on the wait
list. >> 21? >> Yes. >> What? >> We got a number of applications which, you know, people don't read the website. that they don't uh you know they were not seniors they were not disabled they
were families with children I mean >> really didn't qualify or they were young they were under 60 under 62 and working but not a senior so they didn't qualify >> that I think that's the end of my my
report oh there was one other thing the We're going out to bid in the next day or two finally. Uh we're going to have a walk through uh for the contractors once it goes out for
a bid and the engineers will be there uh for the walk through. >> Let's hope we get uh some reasonable bids >> for what is that? I'm sorry. for the repair work for the brick facade. >> Oh, okay. >> Big project.
>> That's great because there's like a It's right outside my window where there's somebody scared me about it a while back. I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but it it was like shortly after that place in New York lost like half the
>> the apartment was like split in half and they said, "Rene, that's going to be you." And I said, "Oh, I hope not. Okay. Now, do you know if we have any correspondence? >> No correspondence. >> Any old business? >> No.
>> Any new business? >> No. I think we're going to go to resolutions now. >> Okay. There was a quenc there was a question last month about uh having a lock box with a master key for
the police department. It was uh reviewed by our attorney and said it's it's it's certainly illegal and we just have to make a a resol board make a resolution approving it. They already have the key box and it will
only be accessed by the police. >> This is for each and every airport. >> It's a master key. >> And it'll be only if someone requests their services, right? >> Yeah. Yes. And the second resolution is the hiring
of Lyndon Lyndon Chen who is a uh a student at the vocational school and we brought in is doing painting and hopefully going to learn plaster repair. She's going to school for the trades to
learn in the trades and her family has a painting business so she always she was already a step ahead. >> That's great. >> And I've watched her. She does very nice work and she works diligently. So this helps us catch up with the units.
>> That's necessary. She >> Yes. >> First resolution. >> Okay. So both resolutions. >> I just explain. You have to vote. You have to vote on the resolution. >> Okay. Let's vote on resolution
2025-13. >> I think we can both vote on both of them together. Okay, I'll make a motion to pass them. >> I'll second. >> Okay. Um, >> yes. Cavalry.
>> Casserly. Cavalry used to work. >> I'm not looking. >> Yes. >> Remy. >> Yes. >> Vano. >> Yes. >> Okay. Everybody else is not here. >> Report from the commissioners.
>> Okay. They didn't get there yet. Okay. Report from the commissioners. I do have something. Um the Bill Town Pharmacy they had they said that they a lot of you people do work with them you know as
customers but they know that there's been a turnover in the building. So they had me he actually printed out enough flyers for everyone in the building. So well where will we put them in the hallway by the elevator? >> Okay. We'll put them in out in the
hallway by the elevator and anyone that wants to take one they could >> Belmont. >> Belmont Town Pharmacy. Yes. >> In reference to what? >> Well, just offers you want to work with him. >> They're fabulous. So, >> I love them. Yes, >> they really are.
>> He also mentioned something at one point. If anybody's interested in flu shots, but of course it would have to be everyone at the same, you know, every day, whatever. If somebody was interested in a group, he would come up
here and do that if necessary. >> That's my report. Any uh remarks from the general public? >> Yes. >> Oh, here she is. >> Uh Sandy Caputo Surf. Um Paul, you use
the term energy audit. By that, do you mean the inspection of the windows? >> The inspection of the whole building. >> Okay. Physical inspection. >> Yes. >> Not. >> It'll take about 5 days. That's what they tell me. >> Okay. And they're going to go around to
all the apartments. >> Yes. >> And when is that for? >> We don't know yet. We're waiting. We're waiting to get a bid. He has the pictures. He's going to look at our energy bills and then he comes up with a price. The first company that we went
out to was cost prohibitive. >> I know. Okay. >> So, we're hoping this company will be more reasonable. >> Does that company also do the work? >> No. >> So, then it has to go out to bid. >> Has to go out. Well,
>> it's it's a grant we have. So, the I'm not sure what requirements are going to be. There's been money allocated already >> for the building. >> Yeah. >> From from uh a year ago. appropriate uh budget. >> No.
>> So, the money's there for us to use. >> Uh once we get into it, I'll find out what strings are attached to that. So, I really can't comment at this point. >> All right. Thank you. I'm just I'm I'm hoping that this the repairs can maybe be done
before this winter, >> you and I both, >> because this was terrible for the people. If we find it gets behind, we'll move ahead with plan B, which is to get thermal curtains for the west side of the building, which is the the bad part
of the building, the part that goes over the river. >> So, we've gotten we've gotten a price from Delmare Window Shop. >> Yeah, that's what >> And we could go ahead and order the curtains. >> Okay. >> All right.
>> All right. Thank you. >> Uh, Nita Buckley. Um, how's the pest situation? I see some uh traps here in the room. I know you had um mice months back. Was that Have we had any >> The last report there were no uh there were no findings.
>> Okay. Um that's um that's all I have I think. >> Anyone else? >> Yeah, they have it over here. >> May I? >> Sure. um with the the windows and all and what
you just spoke about there, Paul, is that all for energy efficient, you know, efficiency in the building like with the windows and all >> block the drafts. >> Okay. But they'll look everywhere, I guess. I suppose then. >> Oh, yeah. They're going to examine every
unit. >> Oh, okay. No, I mean like in here. Although it's pretty warm in here. >> These have been replaced. These are are therm double therm. >> Uh >> okay. I just I didn't catch on if it was
like if that was the goal and energy efficiency in these windows about 5 years ago. >> And it's consider it's much warmer now with the >> Yeah. Mine are this past year it was
freezing cold cuz I get the ocean and I get cuz I'm right on the corner and those windows they're I can't even open them. Sometimes they open, sometimes they don't. They're very heavy. I can't clean the outside
because God technology has improved that they'll be cost effective. >> Yeah. I think with my pred with a predecessor, the problem is uh when you go out to bid, you have to take the lowest reasonable bid.
>> Yeah. Well, it's a process. I understand. But I just wanted to see if it that they were looking in general all throughout for efficiency. >> They will. >> Okay. Cool. Thank you. >> I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say cool
like that. Anyone else? >> I have something to say. Okay. I just want to follow up with the uh the uh Richard assistant assistance program. I proposed that six
months ago and here we are. We're talking about it. Nothing seems to be happen. It's like talking on and on. >> One second. >> Just talk. >> It does talk. Let me think. Okay,
>> now I hear what you're saying about maybe having curtain to block the cold. Personally, I feel that's a waste of money. There are some windows in the
building at the apartment um that are off the frame. Why don't especially in my apartment cannot close the window at all. So you
shove the air conditioner that window. What's going to happen if the winter time can't close the window? Why aren't the engineers here now to observe or whatever? look around and see which apartment
really need windows and then take it from there. We don't have to do the whole building. We don't have to do every side of the building. The other question I'm asking also was
about last month the budget was discussed and you're talking about the various uh questions of where the monies were going and how it's being spent. My question is
the scaffolding we're paying for that. You are paying for that. Where is that money coming from? Well, to answer your last question, the money comes out of our operating budget. So, we're paying a lease. We're leasing
the scaffolding monthly. We don't own it. We're leasing it. Uh as far as uh the weatherization program, we've been working actively with the unit in Asbury Park and quite
frankly the first bid of $25,000 was much more than anticipated to do the audit. Um so they did find a second company. This is a very specialized field and it's there's not a lot of people doing
it. you know engineers for energy efficiency uh they have to come in they have to make uh measurements they have to uh look at all aspects of the building to make recommendations
so we haven't been waiting we haven't been sitting on it just we haven't been able the company the the weatherization unit hasn't been able to find an engineering firm that that could do the audit that they could afford.
So, we'll move along with we'll move ahead with it. And I agree with you, you know, the curtains uh may be an additional expense, but if if we're not going to get uh relief by the winter months, we'll go
ahead and do it. Anita Buckley First Avenue. Should we be looking more towards just getting new windows at this point for these units that are the windows are off the track? I mean, is weatherization far beyond it? Should we should you're having your
capitalization meeting? Should we be putting picking up apartments that say these need new windows? >> Uh, number one, the windows cannot go off track. I suspect it might be the spring mechanism that with raises them and low lowers them. Uh they can't go
off track. They're built in there. They built the windows in there. >> All right. Well, they're saying they can't open them or close them. So, >> well, they they they make a work order. We we have extra uh springs. We bought 10 at one point 10
springs that can be put into the window today. >> So, ladies, make a work order. Say your windows don't open or close, please. So, we have that and then have them come in and then have the results down. Because they're saying your windows can't not open or close.
>> Do you understand that? >> Yeah. But work order. What's Oh, put on the paper. >> Put it on the paper that your You think your windows don't open or close? >> I know. Well, I don't see those papers anymore ever. I You just write it on the
the clipboard. >> Okay. So, that's what they do. >> Yes. So just write it on the clipboard that and then and then bring the results because they're saying your windows should open and close that maybe the springs are broken. >> Well, mine do sometime, you know, they're just difficult to lift up. Yeah,
they're heavy windows. They are old school. >> Very heavy. >> Okay. Does everybody have to say that >> the wrong I don't think it's the spring. It's the frame. It's what?
>> All right. will put it on the list and have them look at it and then they'll tell they'll say, you know, if if if it is warped, then we we'll deal with it at that point. But we have to bring notice to it. We have to give them notice. They have to look at it because he's saying
it can't be off the frame. He's saying the windows cannot be off the frame. They can't be broken. There's no need for new windows. So, put your just we'll put your you know fill out the paper >> so that they >> Does everybody understand that? >> Does everybody understand that? Please
just put down every apartment that you think is something's wrong with your window and have them all get it and then get it in writing what they said and then we'll deal with it. >> Okay. Thank you. Does anybody else have any questions? >> I just have a question. um for uh the
waiting list. Um how did we you all decide on having 21 as the limit for the the amount of people on the waiting list? >> Well, there's no magic formula for it, but since we already filled two of the
units with people that apply, we only have two units left. So I think 20 some would be sufficient in the event we get new units opening up. >> Okay. Um and then also that waiting list
um when I looked on the website because I had someone inquire and I think I ended up referring it to to you um Paul but um it doesn't reflect it says waiting list closed on the website and that's been the case at least for the past
past week. Um, I thought first it might have been my cell phone because it was on my, you know, looking on my cell phone, but it's actually on the website itself that it says waiting list. >> Well, that should have been changed and I I brought it to Amy's attention. I guess we'll have to do it again.
>> Okay. And is there an application right there on the >> If you if you click on documents, uh, it'll it'll have it'll be a drop down and it is an application and it can be downloaded and printed. Is there any way while she's working on on that to
open that maybe um when it says waiting list that drop down right there can be the document of like apply and then it can have the instead of going into the documents and trying to find the weight list. Maybe we can have it a duplicate.
>> You're talking to a neo for >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I think it might be easy for her. It might not be easy for me or you, but it might be an easy fix for her. >> All right. >> Um, but yeah, I'd suggest that especially if if it's going to close on the 19th.
>> Anyone else? >> Paul, when you have your fiveyear plan with the meeting with the residents on >> Could please use the microphone. >> Yeah. >> Sorry about that. U just was wanted to ask the executive director when he has his meeting with the residents on
September 17th at 100 p.m. would you try to get when you're reviewing the the 5-year plan review try to get a gauge from the residents if there's adequate parking here for themselves uh their visitors and staff. I I think
in looking into the future, that's something we really need to be conscientious about with other development that's going on this town. And we want to make sure in our long-term planning, we are making sure that we are
adequately allowing for our residents and the staff members here and the visitors to have a place to to park and visit. I I think it's it's really important we stress that because one of the projects is right across the street, 200 units,
>> only one spot per unit. It's likely that we will have people parking on the street and other places around here. So, I think that's something that we need to look at from a strategic point of view. We've already talked we've already already talked about uh maybe reaching
out to a towing company and we'll put it on a sign that if you're not authorized to park here, you could be ticketed and towed. Uh we do occasionally catch people uh and we leave a note on the windshield.
Uh what they apparently they used to do they put a sticker adhesive a violation on the windshield which I abolish that they want to people have to use a a night razor to get it off their
their windshield. But yeah uh so right now we're we're good. We we have enough spots for the people that that need them. Uh but in the future we could get to a point where we can offer enough spots. >> Let me ask you, do we have a sign out
here that says >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. The sign says for for uh residents of Elmore Housing Authority only, but people do sneak in there sometimes. You know, sometimes I get customers from
Paris Sailing. It's right under the bridge will park there. I never realized it, but the art center now is paid parking. >> There spots in there. >> I did not know that. >> I didn't either.
>> Now paid parking. >> I think across the street from the art center. Unless that's changed. I don't know. >> I I I was told that the art center >> now have to pay to park. I think it's
>> I don't know. >> And you know, as part of the process, we look at the vehicles out there. There's one here that um we may notice that if it's not reinspected, it's it's going to be towed >> because the sticker is two years old.
>> Do the residents have a parking permit >> like that they can stick in their car? >> A car? >> A parking pass? You know, like for my apartment, I have a thing that you have to have on your >> We know we have a we have a we know who's who's where. We have the a whole
list of people parking here. >> Yes. >> Yes. Missy, >> I'd like to make a comment about the parking. I noticed over the weekends it gets very very busy here in the back
here and if people are swimming around looking for parking spaces very dangerous. They're using our parking lot to make Uturns and loops around and all of us got hit a couple of times walking out the parking our
parking lot. Maybe I can suggest that like uh put up balade, you know, the balade on each side, not to block off the whole parking lot, but just to let the people know you can't
come through here. I spoke to some of the drivers that they understood. Okay. Okay. They understood a safety reason for not making a parking lot a circle drive through. All right.
>> Look, yeah, we'll look into that. >> Um, I'm going to make a motion to adjurnn. >> I just wanted to ask another question. >> Paul, how do I go about um looking at
the camera? Somebody took my stole literally took my cart from in the hallway right across from my apartment which >> was out there for almost 5 years and it happened about a week ago now. I left a
note but I know you know Mike has been busy there in that apartment on the sixth floor but how far back can you go with those tapes? I believe they're almost I I believe they're 30 days. >> 30 days. Oh, okay.
>> If you could if you could narrow it down, it'd be helpful. >> Yeah, I I tried to and I I just haven't had a chance to day. And >> I just want to take a look cuz I I'm ticked off about that. It has my name all over, my address stickers all over
it, too, with my name and address. And I'm sorry. It might be trivial, but I feel like violated. I don't like that at all. >> You agree with that? >> And I I I need it, >> you know. And it wasn't a piece of crap. My aunt bought it for me when I first
moved here. It was a nice thing. I did used it for my laundry. I would run up when I got back from food shopping. >> Well, talk to Mike about that. He He was able to look back on the camera. He >> did. Yeah. Okay. I would like so I could make a little time and sit in there and
watch it cuz I really want to >> I want to like catch the first >> I can't believe somebody did it first of all. So, you know, first I thought it was a misunderstanding and then I posted two notes and and both of them got
ripped down. They were in the elevator. I mean, that's a little infantile to me, you know? That's jerky. Is somebody doing it on? You know, it makes me wonder. It's just me. >> I got you.
>> Okay, we made it a motion to return. Be second. Let's >> Okay. >> Orchard. >> Yes. >> Robinson. >> Cassley.