posted on the rules and posted on the website here. >> Mr. here. >> Here >> above to the flag of the United States of America and to the world for it stands
nation. >> Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to March 26 adjustment meeting. Mr. Kennedy, how are you? >> Good, thank you. >> Do we want to knock out some approvals? Sure.
>> I have a motion to approve the minutes of the February 19th meeting. >> I'll make that motion. Second, >> Mr. Ross. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mr.
Mr. >> Sure. >> This was a uh use variance approval and bulk variance approval associated with the request to effectuate a number of improvements to an existing two family home. Uh I gave you the draft version. Uh Mary uh gave me the technical
information that I was missing and I'll put that in in a minute. Uh the conditions of note were that uh confirmation that the existing fire escape is going to be removed. I think we wanted floor plans. I said of both units. I think we had one but we
needed the other one. Uh confirmation that the fire egress details shall comply with prevailing requirements. Uh confirmation that they've officially abandoned any creative non-conforming room in house use of the site. Remember that test
the extent necessary we put that in confirmation that unit one the bedrooms are going to be reduced from the two existing to one and unit two going to be reduced from the four existing to three. Uh the new siding for the garage would appropriate match and complement the two family structure. Uh and this is what
remember they had a concern a neighbor had a concern did not come to the meeting but uh did express it and so they indicated that they were confirmation that the front yard setback to the home shall be increased from 18.1 ft to 18.6 ft. And another way of saying
that is confirmation that the proposed new second floor bumpout addition is going to be reduced from uh 18 in to 12 in in depth. And that does match up with what we said uh no further expansion absent further approval uh confirmation
that the building coverage is not going to exceed 28.2 pvious pavers and driveway materials per the approved plans. No light spillover. Um they eliminated one variance for the second floor balcony driveway shall be
semi-pervious and um the other uh thing that so two things one is that the application approves the renovation of the existing structure as opposed to de demolition of the same to the extent that the existing structure is demolished they need to come back and
reposition the board and then I think what I sent out was that long condition that we talked talked about it the last time saying, "Hey, if you get an approval, you got to stick with the the the terms of the approval. There can be no deviation from the plans that are
approved. If conditions at the site are materially different from what was presented to the board or different from what was otherwise known, in the event that the post approval conditions are different than what was anticipated, the applicant's representatives are not permitted to unilaterally deviate or build beyond what is specifically
approved. For example, if the testimony plans indicate that the existing structure is to remain, the same cannot be unilaterally demolished or destroyed without formal bur consent, regardless of the many fine construction reasons which may exist for doing so. That is the basis for the board's decision to
grant zoning relief may be impacted by any change in conditions. As a result, the applicants are put on notice that any post approval deviations uh cannot be effectuated unless you get approval. Uh rather all those we say approval
deviations can and will cause problems. It's going to cause delays. It's going to cause heartache. It's going to cause stress. It's going to cause uncertainty and it's going to cause confusion and it's going to cause delay. And by the way, you applicant are responsible for your actions and the actions of your architect and your attorney and your
builder and your contractor and the whole bit. Again, that was not with regard to this specific thing, but I think the gist of the last meeting we had was because this issue is rising that this is sort of going to be our stable. So >> that's a nice staple.
>> So anyway, thank you. So if if this is acceptable, we can adopt this as modified because Mary had made some technical non those dimensions were I just wanted to confirm. Mr. Ross. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mr. >> Yes.
>> Mr. M. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, do we are we going to hear a little testimony on a potential extension? >> I have two. We can do it at the end of the meeting.
And then just some notes for the general public and um council that's here and our applicants in regards to Mr. Kennedy's last paragraph in that statement. What we're seeing is important is we're seeing applications come in on older homes that are deferred and we're finding out that given their condition instead of being renovated
they're being demolished almost in their entirety. Um so with that being said there's some consideration there for make sure your foundations are good. One of the applications be built on a slab. Um, so just noted we're seeing a lot of
this in town and Mr. Bianke is on it. So, Mr. Chairman, uh, just one notes before we start, I've been involved in three of those and now with the new club regulations coming through, it's going to be a whole
nightmare. So, I tell clients generally abide by that 50% rule that your architect and engineer showed or you're going to be a big trouble. So, Appreciate you. >> All right. So, we'll hear the uh first application. David and Andrea Rex.
>> Okay. And Mr. Chairman, as the applicants team comes forward, is there anyone here who has any questions, comments, or concerns regarding the sufficiency of the notice that received? We don't see any. Uh the board secretary and I reviewed the notice and found in order for my opinion that we
jurisdiction to proceed. Uh so that was number one. Number two, we're going to swear in Ted Bianke, our construction official and zoning officer. Ted, do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide to the extent you providing will be the truth to best of your knowledge to help you? >> Thank you. And then what we'll do is
we'll mark into the record what we as a board have before us. A1 is the zoning permit and that is dated December 17, 2025 and uh December 23rd, 2025. So that's A1. A2 is the development
application package and I think that's technically undated. And then uh A3 I'm going to mark as the applicant's narrative of intent. A4 is our Burough Belmar checklist
and I think we'll have as A5 floor plans and elevations prepared by Paul Damiano, architect. And I circled it. It's dated December 18th, 2025. I'm
sorry, dated December 1st, 2025. Last revised December 18th, 2025. Consisting of six sheets. I think that's the anything else here. >> Okay. Uh so that is we welcome Mr. Ravino on behalf of the client. Good evening.
>> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Nice to be back. I've been in the front a little bit. Uh I just have some photos of the area. >> All right. A6 one, two, three, four, five, six. Photo board containing
>> seven photographs of the site >> site general area and I took it myself. >> So that's an accurate description depiction. So we'll mark that as a six that board. >> Okay. And >> Paul, is there anything you want to mark
individually that wasn't marked? >> You got mark is A7. And what is A7? Hey seven is Paul likes Paul likes prepares models so you guys
>> the site plan 3D model >> so we're mark so A7 is the model and A8 is the site plan and is the site plan the same as the plan that we've already have >> yes it is >> okay so we don't even need to mark that
then Okay. >> Okay. >> Mrs. Gretzky and Paul. >> Okay. If you could state your name, please. >> Andrea Gretzky. >> And just spell Gretzky, please. >> G R E T S Y. >> Okay. And Paul, if you could just give
your uh name and address, please. >> Sure. Paul Damian, 1721 Beverly Avenue, Spring Lake Heights, New Jersey. >> All right. If you could both raise your right hands. Do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide will be the truth to the best of your knowledge to help you guide? >> I do. >> I do.
>> All right. And uh Paul, you're testifying in your capacity as a licensed architect. Correct. >> Yes. >> And your licenses and certifications uh are current up to date. >> They are >> and in good standing. >> Yep. >> All right. I know you've testified here before. >> I have. >> U Mr. Chairman, do you want any further
credentials? >> Okay. So, and Mike, can I just uh to get the ball rolling just so I can ask your client just a couple real quick questions just >> um so good evening ma'am. Are you the owner of the property? >> I am. >> Okay. How long have you
>> and how long have you owned it roughly? >> Uh since July last year 2025. >> And uh it from my review there's two structures or two dwelling units at the site. >> Correct. >> All right. So, I'm just going to call them front and rear for lack of better.
So, with regard to the front structure, that's a single family home, >> correct? >> Okay. And how many bedrooms does that have >> right now? >> And how many bathrooms does it have? >> Two. >> And uh what's the occupancy status? Is that occupied?
>> We haven't moved it yet. >> Okay. So, it's uh vacant right now. And then for the rear structure, is that a single family home? the cottage. >> Okay. And how many bedrooms are in the
cottage? >> Uh, well, there's kind of two rooms. One's really a bedroom, one's more than office. >> All right. One bedroom plus one office. And how many bathrooms? >> Two. >> And is that occupied? >> It is right now. >> Okay.
Thank you. >> She came the house. Okay, thank you. Just by way of brief opening, uh Kevin covered a lot of territory and questioning this. Uh the reskies purchased the house June July of
last year. Uh the house itself is show pictures. Uh it's a little older house. Uh the house needs some TLC. The reskies for the house.
use it on a temporary basis now live at the house when they have to retire. They have four older children. Older I mean 23 to 34. One of them is engaged. Uh they like to do some substantial work
around the house to allow them to move in on a full-time basis. They would also like to keep the garage I'm sorry the cottage on the premises. So a variance is needed because there's going to be an addition
addition to the half story. with extending out the back of the house. >> The front house? >> Yes, the front house. We're not doing any work on the back house. They would like that causes a need for use variance
because they're fixing it up. And on top of that, there is a by adding the addition there is a 0.5 over I should say 0.5 over what's allowed. So, we're requesting a 25
variance for 25.5% very 25% is allowed. I should note that the total coverage right now is right around 54%. That itself has been brought down to about 47%. So total coverage is coming down.
The total block coverage is going up uh by just a fraction of a point. Uh the uh I should note and I left it out. Mrs. Resty has a 97 year old mother who's
still alive and she's doing pretty well. She's pretty dry. uh and she uh lives with the reason why four kids or grow there certainly come
down and so forth or the probably likelihood that the family will grow in the future they would like to expand and so unless that board has any questions for me I'll just identify the pictures of the house
online I hand them up to the real quickly. Uh the picture to the left is the house uh to our west. The middle picture is the subject property. I should add while I'm talking about it, the front porch
which is enclosed is going to be opened up. Uh the house to the west, I mean to the east is under construction right now. Uh the lower picture is the back of the house that's going to be improved.
Uh the next picture on the bottom is a picture of the walkway to the cottage in the rear. Uh the next picture is a picture of the house to the west which is substantially larger than the subject property. And if I get it right, our
extension should come about to this window, not the back window. So, it's certainly not totally imposed on the neighbor's property. And the last picture is just a picture of the neighbors to the east backyard. Then I'll pull Mrs. Uns
one shot. Okay. Great. Mrs. Gresky, just tell us a little bit about your family. I spoke about a little bit, but just tell us a little bit about your family. >> Yeah. Um, we live in Westfield, New Jersey, and we've been looking to move down. We have friends down here in
Bradley. Sorry, my voice is worse. I've been talking all day. Um, and we we do we have four grown children. Um, one's engaged, another one has her boyfriend lives with her. U, my mom's 97. She does live with us. My two sisters visit my
mom a lot as well. And so, you know, we came down, we were looking for a house. We've been looking for two years. We've come close a lot of times and we saw this house and we kind of fell in love with the piece of property. It was it's just perfect for our family and so we
bought it. Um, like put an offer in the day we saw it and we were lucky enough to to get it. Um, and since then we've been trying to fix it up, trying to figure, you know, working with all getting plans done. So that our our goal is once it's fixed up, we want to move
in like regardless of whether or not we're retired or not. We just want to really move into the home. We fell in love with it. We love Belmar. It's close to the beach. It's close to town. We love the community. Um and we really want to move in. >> All right. And just generally, you want
to expand the house. You want, as I said, you're going to take off the the enclosed front porch. Open porches are encouraged in most communities and here at Belmar, uh, you like to open up that porch? >> Absolutely. >> Just tell us Paul will go into more detail. Tell us gently what else you
want to do. >> Um, to what we're looking to do is to to raise the roof a little bit up so that we put two bedrooms on the third floor. Um, there's three bedrooms currently on the second floor. We're going to reconfigure that. Just again, one for
ease for my mom. Uh, ones that we have like a room that really works for us. Um, and reconfigure some of the space there. Um, not drastically changing it. Um, in terms of the number of rooms or bathrooms, but adding a bathroom, expanding the laundry room up there,
opening up the first floor a bit to have a kitchen and a family room in the back, which is kind of how we live. >> And upstairs, >> yes, we're going to put two bedrooms and a bathroom up there again. because we have what some people can call an
irrational number of children, but they come and they bring people with them. So, it's always nice that everybody has a place to stay. >> And one of them is already engaged. >> Yes, he is. >> And you're hoping >> some children. >> Yeah. You know, we have to assume like someday that we might have a grandchild.
My mother's already a great grandmother. Um actually, just two days ago became great grandmother again. So, not my kid, but And then there's a rear house, rear cottage that you would like to be able to keep. And that's what one of the variances we need here. >> Yes.
>> And generally just outboard house that's used >> just for um our family. Our family use it sometimes. >> Uh well, right now we have a renter in it. Like I said, he came with the house. Um but I think once we our plan would be once we moved in that we would just use
it for family. >> Anything else? Okay, >> you can switch. >> Paul, you've been recognized as a licensed architecture. Can you just tell us a little bit about what's there and what's proposed and why you think it's a reason?
>> And uh I'm just going to touch on a few things. maybe weren't touched on and that was one part of the proposal is removing the driveway on the left side uh and reconfiguring on the right side because right now it's 8.7 ft to get a
car in there to the property line on the left and there is 12.7 ft to work with on the right side >> and that's where you're able to pick up some of the coverage. >> So we're and you're also you know you can get more parking spaces uh as as indicated by the X's on the site plan.
So there's one, two, three, four, five, five on site parking spaces. So that is proposed as part of the work as is redoing uh the rear the rear pavers to become um pavers. So between um the
grass strip on the driveway and using curbous pavers, we're able to reduce the coverage from over uh over the maximum to to below the maximum. the the uh I guess the other component is that's been mentioned is that there is an enclosed porch in the front setback which is not
permitted. The proposal is not to though keep it in place like Kevin was talking about earlier. It's it's to take it down but you're allowed to have an enclosed porch uh an open porch in the front set back up up to 10 ft. And so that's what we're proposing.
Same roof line not going any higher there. Um when you look at where the condition is and really how the how the house works. Uh the idea is to sort of keep the the front rooms intact. They're not uh especially the
the second floor. You do have an existing floor plan which is EX1 that shows, you know, a a fairly small kitchen, a breakfast nook that can fit
about one person and mud room. So, there's really not not not a lot of place for for family to hang out. And then you see the laundry. The laundry is really a closet on the uh second floor. And there's a but those two front
bedrooms are staying the same. And really bedroom three is being proposed to be in laundry and bathroom. And then the the proposed addition to the rear is to house a primary bedroom with a closet and a
bathroom. So you know so that you know kids get to use one bathroom and the parents. Otherwise, the first floor is really about having a kitchen island and an o open family room to to attach to the to go to the rear. So, that that's
the first floor. And when you look at the the uh and the stair is getting reworked, right now the stair is very steep and sort and cuts the house in half. So, part of part of doing this
reworking is getting off the driveway, being able to get into the house and go a half story up and a half story down to get um to get upstairs. And it's not a a full basement. It's really 610ish.
But um but that also then goes all the way up to the the top floor. And the top floor, the half story is proposed for the two bedrooms and the bathroom. Oh, right here.
Right. So, that's that's what the dormer space is. You come up the stair, you have a bathroom in the middle and a room in the front and a room in the back. from uh from three to five bedrooms and uh
some some living space. And with the idea being it uh if you if you look on the side, you see the rear bumpout is really is really coming off. So that's the bunk out with the
nook in it. That's sort of an old porch that was filled in. So to get a real foundation under there, just taking that off and obviously new siding and the and the house goes from 31
in terms of the height. This is from 31 ft to 34.9. So there's a 4 foot rise. But when you look at the pictures and the neighbors, you can see
um you know, they're both a good amount taller. So, you've got the uh I imagine they're they're around that 35T mark. Uh so, it definitely looks like a shorter house on that block. Uh especially between the the other two
you see the aerial in terms of location. Part of it is to try to take adv the view of the corner to the church and have an open porch just part of the joy of living.
So the lower so the lower the lower aerial shows you sort of a rear view so you can see the front. The other component that was not mentioned uh in the testimony it is it is an oversized lot. So it it is a dog shaped lot where
it takes up the the back part um of the next door neighbor's house. So when you go back there, there's a picture of the yard where yes, this seems to go with that property and this seems to go with that property. So there is some ease in
that in that back, you know, in terms of open space for for that existing that existing cottage. Um And just mentioning even you know including the cottage and you know both under F
under lot coverage like I mentioned the building coverage uh the the proposal coverage >> well the proposal is to remove a shed here and remove a shed here so that people can walk around remove the deck
and remove you know that walkway and just get in here but to replace these two sheds with that shed. That shed is 80 8 square feet. Um that's where the 52 square feet of the building coverage really
>> 0.5 >> 0.5% of the coverage is 52 square feet over the really sh questions just In your calculations for impervious
coverage, building coverage, lot is it safe to assume that the entire area around the pool is covered and that was taken into account? >> Yes, that was taken into account. >> Anything else? You got a nice set of
>> Thank you. Did you want to see the model or does it help? >> I think it's worth find more. >> That's cool. He didn't charge you extra for this. The only suggestion is you got to make
two pieces. >> Oh, I tried to hatch. >> Joking. >> Who wants to go first? Mr. Ross. >> Yeah, that's right. I mean, I think you answered a lot of my questions when you talked about extra batch. I was trying to understand how you got just a
minuscule increase in building coverage with that included. So, I guess just Mr. I think it's important to condition the application probably just flag it is removal of two
sheds like you said. removal of two sheds and there's removal of the walkway and existing deck to rear house. >> So that the removal of walkway and then what was it? It's the removal of the
walkway and the it's called a deck existing deck in the back house and two sheds will be removed and one shed. Got it. 180 sheds. Got it.
And then I don't really have any other questions. I guess the only question I would have when you switch these driveways um are you are you really exchanging parking places for you know you're losing a parking place on one spot where you're gaining where you're taking the
park the driveway out. Is there anything I didn't notice and I did go over there but can't remember if there was a fire hydrant or anything that's going to cause us to lose like two parking places because of the switch. I'm not sure if we're going to even do anything about it, but
>> Well, we're converting that, >> excuse me, the other driveway to grass, >> right? That's where AC putting the new one in. Is it are you just going to lose one parking place for that driveway or is there something close to it that would cause you to lose more than one
parking place on the street? He's returning. >> Oh, no. No. We're just switching. So, we're going to fill in the curb. So yeah, the curve I understand. >> Lose like Well, I guess actually it doesn't make an awful lot of difference because
>> if you did have to just accept it. >> Unless I'm wrong. I don't >> Yeah, I don't see. >> That's the only corner or something. There we go.
>> All right, that's all that's all I have for curious about that. The only question I have is the back is it open or something? It's covering the pool. >> It's not covering the pool. It's just on
the next pool. It's just open for that. >> It also needs to be set back, right? 8 and that would be included in your building coverage. >> Yeah, we did include
>> what is the total square footage of this one? 9806 >> we're good on parking. >> All right. So my questions were the pergola which you're stating on record is that that was included in the calculation for building coverage. Is
that bolted down? I'm assuming. >> Do we know if it is? >> I'm pretty sure it is. nervous post. >> Yes. You confirm that the concrete around the pool is impervious
and that's included in your calculations. >> Yes. >> Um okay. The detail regarding the driveway. What is your intention in the center there? You said grass plans are noted as gravel. >> Yes, gravel
half >> correct. So what is your intentions to do that next to the chimney right hand side there? >> Yeah, I see it says gravel. So if it's grass then it's
right. >> I think we talked about that Paul about the stone and the dry one. >> What's the preference of the applicants gravel? >> I I I will tell you I see the calculation shows 300 pavers plus 150 gravel changed to 75. So I included 75
for the gravel but um so yeah it's it's written up and and drawn as gravel. I think I thought it was grass. You want to change it to grass? I don't think it's just like recorder because if you switch to grass your calculations are
coming down >> I guess we can keep it as gravel I don't know. We still haven't addressed this issue rightass. >> Yeah. >> At your preference. Um and then I I
can't help but notice if you All right. So then you're you pull in the driveway. You're all the way at the end of the driveway. Let's The last car right in front of the rear structure >> to your left is that grass. >> You park head on. You pull all the way
into the rear structure. >> You're facing the rear structure. When you open the driver, what are you stepping onto? Grass or gravel? >> The grass. >> That's grass. >> Right. And there's no modific >> it has window units now. No central air. And there's no other improvements at
this time that if you were to make improvements to this rear structure, you know, you have to come back. >> Yes. >> Will there structural repair? Are you going to sign up to match the house or >> be nice? >> It would be nice. They would say structural repair inside the master
house. >> Repairs to the bathroom. >> I mean the house is in working order. There were some structural repairs noted in the >> Yeah, we would want it to match >> and the existing PA patio was to be
behind the home be removed in it entirely and replaced with >> Yes, >> I'm sorry. Say that again. Existing paper >> rear main dwelling to be removed in it and replaced with previous
And that's same that some >> Yeah, I'm just reading. >> Thank you. >> I'll pause. >> It looks I mean, you know, adding parking these two spots going straight
back is great. like saved saved your high with the coverages. Can we um put in there that they can't sell that piece of property because that messes up
all of their coverages? Is that a legal thing or not? >> Well, I think they would need um first of all, they need subdivision, but also variance approval because wouldn't that uh that would require their lot coverage
on the existing lot to go up. So at a minimum, I don't know if you could say you can't ever do that, but I think what you're saying is beyond notice that if you come here, you have very very very very very very Okay, that's fine. I guess >> I mean that is that what
>> I think that that's where I'm going with it that if you were to sell that that all of a sudden you're so far overnumbered significantly coming >> and for some reason somebody in the future board and they didn't hear this
uh they would have to come in front of the board. I think it would be a planning board, but they would need not only subsc for this cutting off that back piece somebody else's
coverages would go skyrocketing as you say and I think >> you plan to use the existing foundation under the existing >> yes >> you looked at it you dug down next to it with a hammer
>> well why don't you just go through that because it's this town down other towns have problems with that. >> Yeah. Because some people are dumb. >> Yeah. No. And you know, sometimes I see it done when it's not supposed to be or you didn't expect it to be. Oh, the ex
and there's ways, right? There's ways to deal with that. Anyway, if you on the second floor put a beam from here to here and then underpin the footing in those two spots, then I haven't changed the load on the existing footing and I reinforce the footing for the new. So,
that's that's the requirement that we go about with with that. >> Yeah. No, we got we had, you know, we had a soil board. There's decent soil. >> And you're also comfortable. So the board focus if they open a meeting with
that that not more than 50% of the house has to be taken down for you to do what you want to do. >> Correct. That's well that's not even the intent. We're trying to keep those front room
in keeping the ceiling keep the ceiling joist and you know we have to redo the roof. you know, to create the volume underneath. We're trying to keep trying to keep
those rooms more intact. >> That's all I >> Yeah. I just have a question about the porch. You use the term rebuild, convert existing porch. Does that mean a demolition? >> It is rebuilt
>> with with new peers. >> With new peers. >> Okay. That's doesn't look great. It's not in great shape. Uh and it's enclosed, but it's also paper thin. The walls are about 2 in. So, you could trust that.
>> Yeah. That's you're doing it the right way. >> And this one's currently located in a flood zone. I'm asking >> we're on the we're on the border of the zone. So, we're on the next
regulation. comes in. >> Yeah, we're trying to get the permit in for July. >> Yeah. So, um, look, 7th Avenue is a great street. I can advise you home in close proximity to this. These homes did get worse.
You might just want to check with Christine administrator because our map shows >> I thought it might be X500 >> the current the current for CL got so
you see the the red dot on the first page is where I had it from from yeah we'll contact Ours is what? >> It is plus one. >> Yeah.
What we're saying is is that Belmar, correct me if I'm wrong, please regulations are Belmar adopted an ordinance 10 steps. >> Yeah. Just do your due diligence. I don't have any other questions.
further presentation. >> No, just brief summary if you don't mind over there. High school very well for that block. There's a number of
houses on that block up. I think that this uh addition and alterations will certainly make the street look better. I I don't like to look at pes house itself from view a lot better
coverage% and I think the rest of the house is reasonably built only.5 over 05 over I would ask com. Any questions from Yeah, I think this is a good
application. I don't think it's huge ask very nice. The drawings are very nice and I'm still in favor of the application. It looks like a good application. It looks like a good use for the property.
It'll match the neighborhood well and compliment it. So, I'm in favor of the application. >> I am in favor of the application. And I hope the first floor >> um I'd be I'm in favor of the
application. I would like some consideration given to moving that further over to the set. I think it just makes sense and then just additionally with zone coordinator
on today's maps I like it. I am all good. >> Did a good job in favor? >> Who wants to make chairman? >> Yes, sir. >> Question of the public.
>> Would you like me to do that? Members of the general public, any other comments, questions or concerns regarding this application at this time? >> Seeing none, Mr. Kenny, can you give us a >> Okay, so the general uh conditions are uh our typical ones complying with all
the promises, commitments, and representations the team made throughout the hearing. Compliance with all the prevailing affordable housing rules, regulations, contributions. We generally say grading and drainage plans need to be reviewed and approved by the burough engineer. There's a 24 month shelf life
on once the resolution is adopted within which building permits need to be obtained. Uh need to obtain any approvals from outside agencies. And our usual uh rule is if the nature of the application or the nature of the requested relief materially changes as a result of those outside approvals, you
need to come back uh before you get the final co the professional design professional needs design and certification confirming that the um uh improvements were installed in accordance with the approved plans and the testimony in the resolution. Uh the
actual survey if necessary. We have our post approval deviation memo that we just uh uh condition that we talked about at the demolition. Um and let's see uh we just disclose that those new slab regulations exist and we encourage
you to be aware of it and you are and explore the impact. Uh we usually have a requirement no further intensification expansion um absent formal approval of the board. Couple things we talked about. So I said there's no work on the
rear home but uh new siding and did you say >> there might be some structural interior structural >> interior structural repairs. >> No additional bedroom so there might be some repairs. And then it's a single
family home use only. Um we talked about what you all generally have said in the past is when this front porch goes from enclosed to open uh no further enclosure of that porch absent further approval of
of the board. Okay. Um and then just comply with the half story ordinance. Um, the rear U pavers, the semi-pervious pavers. Um, and let's see. Um,
we talked about removing the two sheds and replacing the one with the 80 square foot shed and that's what triggers the 0.5% over. And Mr. Ross, we're going to come back. I have another one. Uh, and then, um, oh, just for the model, uh,
stupid point, but April, why don't you let um Paul take a picture of it and send it to you so you don't have to keep it and get it potentially damaged because we don't want Paul's wife to get upset with us. And then in the very very very unlikely event there's litigation, you just have to bring it back to us.
Um, and then, uh, all right, Chuck, we're saying removal of the walkway and the existing deck to the rear of the home. Um, and there's only going to be at the end only one driveway, correct? >> Correct.
>> Okay. And and then the other driveway that's being removed is going to be perpetually converted to grass. And then I guess you just close up that existing curve cut. Is that how you say it? >> Yes.
>> Okay. And um let's see. Pavers. Um and then um for the patio. >> Okay. Just the patio.
>> Asking a clarification. Did you calculate? >> No, I think you I think you get no choice on the driveway because it gets compressed when you drive on it. >> Just making sure like >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> And then um just to avoid any the driveway is going to be gravel. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. And then uh the siding for the back home will appropriately match complement the front structure. Um
and we are structural repairs to the rear structure. Uh all right. So Tony, the existing PA patio behind the rear dwelling unit will be removed and replaced with semi-pervious papers. >> Okay. And uh we're going to have the
disclosure that any future subdivision would appear to uh intensify uh the and and make this number skyrocket, which we have concerns about, but we'll just put that on the record. >> Sure. >> And um New Porch is going to have new
peers and get any demolition permits that town requires. Um again, the new new regulations, you how you review the matter with uh Christine Bell our administrator uh just with regard to the
current or prevailing rags and relocate the pergola to a zoning compliant location and let them so um Mike are those conditions acceptable to you and your team?
>> Yes. Yes. Someday I'd like to clarify but my client wants the uh their rear cottage for their own use but there's not that clear restrictions. >> Thank you. >> Not interested.
>> Can I ask a questionification because we had this come up in the flood plan when we realiz while they might have the height right now >> if when do they have to put like those flood gates on
>> the vents >> the vents and make sure there's no utilities in the basement. I don't know where your utilities are right now, but I know that came up on application one time. >> No. So that that first of all it's a good question before I get to the substantive answer which I'm going to
defer to others but as a condition I think it's a good point we should comply with prevailing flood and FEMA regulations and all that requires and then but I guess it >> can be straightened out if it is coming back
>> like you're furnishing down Right. >> Yeah. If it meets that 50% if it's more than 50% of the structure >> 50 is still the trigger for >> well on >> not not for the state. That's a different deal. >> Okay.
>> That automatically you got to fe >> but if it applies it applies and that that's on you. >> So Mr. Chairman are those conditions acceptable to the board members? Yes. Relocate to a zoning compliant location.
>> My clients are very >> motion. Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Mr. Yes, >> thank you very much. I appreciate >> Mr. FYI.
And if you want to see what really >> there I already took a picture. >> Okay. Sorry, we >> just your >> All right, let's proceed uh >> to our second application of the
evening. 41614th Avenue, Mr. and Thank you. I'll be around. Okay. Got it. >> All right. As the applicants come forward, a couple of preliminary procedural things. Is there anyone here who had any questions or comments or concerns regarding the sufficiency of
the notice? Anybody? >> No. Um let the record reflect that the board secretary and I reviewed the notice and found everything to be in order. So, it's my opinion that we have jurisdiction to proceed tonight. Uh for the second time tonight, we will swear
in our friend Ted Bianke, who is the zoning officer and construction official. Ted, do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide to the extension provided be the truth, the best knowledge to help you guide? >> Thank you. And we will mark into the record what we as a board have before
us. A1 is the development application uh package and that appears to be dated February 9th, 2026. And A2 is the minor land use zoning permit. And that is dated uh
December 3rd, 2005. I'm sorry, 2025. Thank you. And A3 is the Belmar Burough Belmar application checklist. And A4, we're just going to mark this collectively. A4 is a uh attachments.
It's including a key items table. It's including the denial application form. It's including the zoning requirements, including a photograph log map um with other houses in the area. It includes the survey. It includes a site sketch in
color um showing relocated parking spots and it's also a landscaping plan waiver request. So, that's a big package. We'll all mark that as A4. And then we have uh A5 will be floor
plans and elevations prepared by RMS architects and that is dated uh November 26, 2025. And then um I'm going to mark as
A6 is a new uh uh exhibit for tonight. It's three pages. It's a photo of similar homes within our within the neighborhood and it's dated March of 2026. So, um so Mr. Chairman, just one other
as I reviewed the notice. Um sure this is the right one. So this does require a floor area ratio variance and that by law is a D variant. So we have the five affirmative yes votes that you would need for that type of variance.
Just that's what New Jersey law is. So, why don't we swear you in and uh we can get this thing. If you could just state your name, please. >> Sure. >> Carol. >> C A R >> O L >> O L C O S >> O S T L O L. >> Okay.
>> Ronald Roa. R O T U N O L. >> I'm sorry. R O T >> U N O. >> Perfect. If you all could just raise your right hands. Do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide will be the truth, the best of your knowledge to help you guide?
>> I do. >> Thank you. And just for the record, are are you all uh the owners of the 416 14th Avenue property? >> Yes. >> And how long have you owned it roughly? >> Since 2011. >> 2011. And my notes suggest that there's a single family home at the site.
>> Correct. >> And do you live there? >> No. >> Okay. Is it occupied? >> Seasonal maybe. >> Okay. So use is govern >> and why don't you tell the board exactly is what you're looking to do.
>> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> Um so we've never I've never done this before. Um excuse me. >> We'll help you. >> Good. And hearing the previous um we bought a house in 2011
instead of room and board for our daughter's college. Um, our current residence is in I have a Dodge and I love the beach. I'm in the ocean eight months a year. So, my husband, not
so much, but that's okay. Um, so we have this nonconforming house. It was a It is a carriage house. And in the 60s it was subdivided in the behind us
making it its own tax and non conforming to anything. So six of n of our variances are just because the house is on its own lot. So
we can't change that. Um, it is a three bed, one and a half bath. Uh, we're keeping a three bed and making it a two full bed. Um,
we have three kids, lots of grandchildren, lots of babysitting, and um, we want them to be able to join us when we're here. This is going to be our permanent home. We going to sell.
So hopefully um we can work this out. Um first floor is fully handicapped accessible >> proposed. >> Oh, thank you. The proposed first floor is fully
handicapped acceptable wheelchair. Um because we do plan we're moving from a ranch to a two-story home. Um We need to do a little bit of a bump out on the back of the house to accommodate
a generous stairway that will hold the chair. Um, currently the backyard has a big big slab of
concrete uh that will be going away and Let's see. the shed >> and the shed that would be away also. Um so the bump out in the rear we would be using more
impervious adding to the um to but we're trying to make amends on other places. questions. >> No, I mean to give an overall view here
the you know we'll go variance I guess by variance to try to assist just for some clarification. Um I believe I was in your home in 2011. >> Is that the garage on the left hand side of the house? There's two doors there,
right? What is that now? >> Um, it's >> it's a storage area. >> It's a storage and in the summertime it is um a living room. >> So, the intent is that's going to be livable space. >> Yes. That there will be no more garage. Yes. >> And another question I have is the
existing house is built on a slab. >> It is grade. Yes. >> It's at a slab. Do you know ma'am if you're in a flood zone? >> We are not in a flood zone. >> Not in zone. And The gigantic pine tree that's in your backyard. Is that on your property?
>> It kisses our property. >> Is it on your property? >> No. >> All right. So, I mean, I think the thing for you to do is we should we have a list of the variances that you're seeking and we can maybe go over them
one by one or you can identify them for us. And then after you do that, if there's anything you'd like to talk about regarding your presentation. We'll open it up to questions and then general comments. I think it's important for all of us to
understand the variances that you're seeing because there is a lot of them and we as a board recognize that some of them come on a very small Sorry, I'm share this with so um ma'am minimum lot area is 4,000 your existing
lot total is 2275 >> correct >> is that correct? So that's a and just so we're clear as a word and it's a matter of record here. Um you didn't did the calculations for improve coverage, building coverage. You guys did
>> the architect. >> The architect. >> Okay. That's noted. >> Lock frontage. Um you're not seeking a variance for that. Maximum lot coverage 55% existing is 63% proposed 67.9%.
That would be a variance. >> Correct. >> And that was calculated by your Yes. >> Um, building coverage required 30 existing 32.31 proposed 55.53.
That's a variance. So, one, two, three variances so far. Uh, max score area ratio and I'm going to have to defer Mr. Kennedy on this or Mr. 78% is required your existing 64.62.
How do we trigger ratio bearings on this? Is it three levels? >> No, we're going out 8 ft in the back. We're adding an addition of 8t based on the width of the house. >> Does that
matter? I've never had that me. I've never seen it personally myself. The loft >> on two. >> And then we're going two story. Yeah, we're going two store. >> You are going half two and a half story. >> Yes. Okay. What about the loft area? >> That's an attic. You should have just
said, >> right? No, because you got 76 ceiling height. >> Yeah, that that that's half of a count. >> That's what I'm saying. So, >> go ahead. Go ahead. I'll finish your thought. Go ahead. Go ahead.
>> No, no. I was just going to say is it going to be sheet rock finished? What is it? >> The added. >> Yes. So we refer to that in our terminology is half story. Okay. We only allow a percentage of that area to be
calculated and use as habitable space. So your architect, you're saying at 88.09% floor area ratio, he calculated that added half story as fully habitable.
>> It doesn't look like it. >> You got first and second floor of 993. That's 1986. >> 88.09 was 2004. >> So he's got 18 ft
for the loft. So something or did I All right. So as of right now, mark it as a variance and then we're going to need some right.
>> What is your intention then with the half story that we're at? Is that habitable? >> No storage. >> Storage >> because I don't have any storage. >> Is it heated or cool? >> Is it heated or cool? >> No.
>> So he didn't count. I can't answer. >> Okay, that's okay. So >> it doesn't >> if it's storage does not. I'm just saying either way the have to readjust the calculation. >> Right now ma'am we're going to note that that that's a variance. What we're
suggesting is that that's not hable space your floor area ratio request is going to come down. >> Okay. So that that's what we're hinting towards. I'm not a licensed architect myself. If I went on TV, but not
>> our children still have their stuff in our home. >> I can't get rid of it. >> I'm still getting yelled at by mom on my mom. >> All right, let's continue. >> Your mom didn't come visit with three or four boxes. >> I got a lot.
>> Oh, no. I've just been purging and too bad. >> All right, let's continue down the list. So, that's four variances. We're going to note as a board that there's going to have to be a calculation on your area ratio front yard setback required 20
existing 8.24 proposed 6.40. Why does it get it gets more or it gets less your front yard setback? Are you bringing a porch out? >> The porch existing porch is about 6 ft in depth and we bring it out. Right.
>> We would like to bring it out. And then I noticed that you have a separate sheet here that shows the average setbacks for the neighborhood. >> And just for record, without me going through seven documents, are you in compliance with that? We're close. >> We're very close. >> You're very close. >> Yeah. Still a variance required.
>> We are 19 >> and rear yard set back. existing is 20 proposed on showing 12. That's because of your addition, right? >> A lot of variances on six so far.
>> Uh max number of stories uh two and a half or is it an attic? If it's an attic, then you're two. Ma'am, if your intentions are to store up there, you know, you're probably going to want to heat and cool it.
I deal with one thing at a time. >> Yeah. But you're triggering variances by having that. That's what I'm saying. You can't approve or deny your application without knowing your true intentions when you're half story. >> If it's just an it's a half story, which is she
potentially habitable with stairs. >> There's no stairs. How does one get up? There will be a pull down. >> A pull down, not a walk up. >> It's an attic. >> Yeah. still triggers a floor ratio variance based on the
>> 12 karition. Are you good? >> Yeah, I'll ask questions later. >> Um, uh, parking spaces compliance wise, you're You have two. Now you're going to rearrange the driveway which I looked at
and then you're going to provide two roof dormer with required 10 ft. It's nonexisting proposed 13 ft that triggers back also trigger.
So if I'm ma'am please My math is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight variances. Did I get that right? >> Nine. Which one am I missing? >> Oh, it's neither here nor there. >> So, I have a question. >> Yes.
>> Okay. So, the roof dormer, I understand had strictly aesthetic because we're the roof up a bit to the style roof. I have to cover the back.
Um, proposed addition. It gives a sheet of roof in the front and I was trying to make it a little nicer. >> Yeah. Let's go over the diagram. Show us.
Yes. So, right. So, these are all this these windows have nothing behind. There's no access from the house. >> Um they'll actually be frosted glass so they don't look dirty down the road. But
I'm just trying to break up that ugly roof line. I'm trying to I have a carriage house and we don't have a lot of quaint stuff around and I'm trying to keep something that's aesthetically pleasing and historic
on the outside. Um so yes very if it's require if it's going to be a headache I don't have to do it. It's certainly not >> financially I don't have to do it. Um >> so you could easily make that 10
>> you can make the dormer 10 10 ft and then you're >> right. >> Oh okay. >> Yeah. So you could shrink it. All right. But I'm just saying it's from the interior of the helm. It's not even seen. >> So you know
>> so that corner that we're talking about right now encompasses the attic. doesn't include any interior space. >> It's strictly >> cosmetic. >> Yes. >> And then your front porch is >> we have an existing
>> that's for covered front porch, >> right? >> So that's probably So, because we're moving the door from the kitchen to another side of the house,
the porch is not covered anymore. And I want to and really the best thing about that is I'm good on that. You want to go over your of your anticipate doing there, what it is now,
and then what you're going to potentially do. >> All right. So, what it is now is um first floor is a living room, half bath and a garage slash playroom in the
summer. But there's no cars that can ever be parked in that garage. Please let me state that because it's not sealed safely for emissions. So, um, >> it's okay, ma'am. It's a carriage house.
>> Yes. Right. >> Yeah. Second floor has three very modest bedrooms, a full bath, dining room, and kitchen. We are going to have two full bedrooms
on the second floor with a full bathroom and a really um gracious I guess dining living room
dining sorry dining and kitchen on that floor. Um we do have five grandchildren already and we're on the way. So >> and because the ceilings are so low in the house
um I want to just v that area, the dining kitchen, and make it feel like it's spacious. Um, >> well, the other thing too is the existing entrance to the house is in the middle of the house and the steps as
soon as you come into the house set go up real quick like standard. So, originally we didn't want to extend back into the backyard since it's so small. What happened was as we laid this out, we couldn't do what
we wanted to do with the stairs. So we basically that 8 foot section of the the new part of the house, this is where the stairs are going to be located in the back. And then it also helped us, you know, have room for the dining room and
we put a bedroom there. >> So we have three beds. It's going to still have three beds. >> Um the half baths will become a full wheelchair accessible back home for school. >> And I think the one of the most important parts of the house for me is
the new workshop area. >> So um on the first floor we were laughing. >> We He's giving up a basement and a garage, >> right? So you know it's a 12T by 8 foot size here. This would be the workshop.
This is where the heating unit would be. And then you have the new bedroom as Carol mentioned on this side. Then you have the new handicap bathroom here. And then the garage slash summer living is a new living room. So it really would
really helps us out going to basement. >> Again, we're we're limited. We're literally three feet line. >> You have that drawing there. Just identify for the board. You're relocating your driveway over.
>> Yes. Yes. >> But your doorway is now >> so that the living room faces grass and a yard, not cars. >> And the street picks up an extra parking spot.
Well, no. What happens between my house and my neighbor going going east, >> there's an oversized parking spot that way too many times people try and fit two cars and they can't. >> So, when I move
that will become a little shorter and become a legit spot, but then there's another one that will be a full spot. technically before we get there. Anything else you'd like to to point out to us and then what
we'll do is we'll ask general questions of you. We'll open it up to the public and then we'll defer some things to Mr. and then >> I guess the other the other thing is that we're trying to keep keep it clean. So right now there's existing concrete
on this side. If you're looking at the house existing concrete here and then where the existing make at the entrance trying to put you know trying to
drive you know we're trying it's a small lot so and then >> gardener county >> and then we also originally We're going to have some type of patio back here, but we're just going
to keep the existing AC unit. >> So, Mr. Bian, just refresh my memory that grass in between your driveway strips counts for 100% coverage. which I absolutely do not understand, but that's
but it's just something to note in your calculations. I think it's important just for us to determine them and you have to be steadfast in this so you understand that it's finding them. You know when you're running these C first of all I commend you both on doing an application without having an architect and or an attorney. you have the
absolute right to be able to do that and it's nice to see. >> With that being said, we're deferring to you that either yourselves and or your architect, you know, is 100% correct on these calculations.
Not going some of us can double check, but you can only go to within certain. Okay. So, with that being said, let's open it up to more questions. J, you want to go first? >> Yeah.
>> And then we're gonna have questions for the applicants and then we'll open it up to to general public and then we'll come back and see. So with your existing house and foundation
when you add a feed on the back there's going to be minimal load on the rest of the house because you you are putting the new roof on third floor. >> So structurally do you think current
house can handle the load of the new roof line? >> Yes. Well, based on the architect's calculations and everything. Yes, that's what he's proposing. That's what >> Well, no, this has nothing to do with the calculation. >> No, no, I'm talking about calculations
of the load. >> So, he's already done that. >> Well, yeah, the house. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. And I'm still not comfortable with the floor area ratio calculation because I can't come up with the same
numbers. as as the architect did. So, I've taken out the loft. So, that that's a concern. >> Do do we have a parking area as well? >> Yeah, I have it down here. >> There's no parking.
>> Yeah. And the front doesn't conform to the sides. >> No. >> Now, could I just say for the record the can say that there's two parking spaces that exist and two that are being proposed. So is there is
that a disconnect? >> Yeah, they're not the right size. So, >> they're only 8 ft long. >> 20 by 9. They need to be 20 ft by 9. And these are
>> just just note that there so you have it for your record. 20 by the park. So, you're need a parking variance. Also, >> that's to the property line, >> correct? >> Not not where the grass or the sidewalk. property. It's the the actual property.
>> Yeah. No, I understand what you're trying to do here. That's my >> um so currently we we park we cleared the sidewalk >> within the driveway. I guess
>> we >> as far as I'm concerned sir parking on your parcel >> right >> but if you come in front of the board the parking requirements for 20 so it triggers >> it correct >> it's okay ma'am you're only up to 10
>> I'm teasing her >> that's okay today's our anniversary so this is a really great evening to celebrate >> um love the workop My one of my biggest concerns is but
you've alleviated part of it by taking this very long one over here that was partially on your property and adding a whole one on the other side of your new driveway.
But uh again it becomes a variance another one because you only have eight feet out of 20 on your property I doing what you're doing with grandchildren and you know looks like a
nice size table up on that second floor. It's my current and that's I wanted to fit it in this house. >> Okay. >> Because I now know what it's like adding chairs to the kitchen table when they all come.
So I'm rambling but uh what you're trying to do is wonderful. It's just the issue of crowding so much there. That's bothers me. And that's a whole point
where when we were doing this, we were actually thinking about looking for another piece of property, a bigger house. >> When you do that, you know, sell our house and then trying to buy another house. It is just the numbers.
>> Well, the number is probably selling your house. in this house might still not add up >> so much. I love my neighbors. >> Um, basically I'm just having flashbacks about 22 years ago when I was in your shoes sitting before this.
I said there's a lot but anything is doable. >> Any questions there? You you had mentioned that you had a garage which was not a garage that was that still under this plan because I don't see living room.
I don't have anything that shows like the previous. So I was not sure what that was. Um the only criticism I have is the workshop's not big enough. You got to take you got to take the master bedroom and make it the workshop and then makes a good
>> master bedroom. I'm not that >> no the workshop isn't big enough but I would have to agree with that. >> And the reason with the garage is the existing wall outside wall and the
interior wall is going to remain the same. So living room the same area. You just take that garage door off. >> Yeah, we're putting direct. >> I didn't understand. I didn't see where
>> that's all. >> Yeah, this is just more I'm running numbers over here too with the max floor. I'm curious, Jim. You're Are you saying you're saying it's overstated on here at 88 or understated?
>> Well, we got we got two floors. We're saying the loft doesn't count, right, Dad? >> And the second floor portion, >> exterior portion of >> So, actually, I I got 1986.
>> Yeah. >> Which is less >> than 88. >> So, like it's actually improving your numbers. >> Yeah. That's why >> Jim's right. I think and the only reason I'm bringing it up is what's triggering five votes is the ratio. >> Correct. Right. I mean, I still might be
over the threshold, but >> right, >> I would hate for that to be wrong. And >> right, I'm just reading into it maybe too much, but like I think like the 88 is overstated. I think it's going to be less than that. >> Unfortunately, in my opinion, it's not
our job. No, I get No, I totally get So that's my only question is if you're comfortable with moving forward based on that number, right? Because you need five. >> Okay. I was just put it out. >> Yeah.
>> I have no other questions though. I think I understand what you're trying to do. There's a lot here to take in and sir in regards to the overwhelming amount of variances that are requested. Um, with that being said, I certainly
most definitely understand what you're trying to accomplish here. There's some major setback requirements building issues here. Nonformity issues. There's a lot. And the most important
thing on your behalf is that if we go to a vote, uh you would have to come back, your plans would have to be significantly revised and changed where you potentially now have an opportunity to engage your architect, reconfirm all
these conditions, dive in a little bit further to our ordinances, and maybe potentially, I would advise, have your architect come back and attend meeting with you. so he can confirm the calculations and maybe address some of the questions.
You're more than welcome to proceed to a vote and we'll get there once we get into board a little bit more board comment. But I'm just advising you now that that's kind of where we're at. If there's no other questions from the board, what I'd like to do is just open it up to the general public and see
close that portion right now. >> I just want to make sure that you understand. comment and then we can all comment on that. >> So, Chuck, do you want >> Yeah, sure. I'll start. I might have an interesting perspective on this. Um, and
might not be conforming with the other board members, but I was kind of running the numbers here and you're asking for 10 variances. You currently have seven nonconformities. So, we're asking for three new variances and the ones that
you are currently out of conformance with. The biggest one is that rear setback, right? You're going from 20 foot existing to 12. So that but that's really like to make your home livable like that's what you're asking for, right?
>> And so don't just trying to justify what you're asking for here. The other one that that the other two the other three that aren't currently is this dormer thing that is for aesthetics. Um, I agree it works better with like something up there to bring up that roof
line, I guess. And I don't I know we're not supposed to be making recommendations, >> like that's kind of a big like that you're adding two variances that you don't even need. >> Yeah. Roof dormer width and roof dormer
setback are the last two variances. So that that little thing that's just for aesthetics is >> triggering twoares. Um, I'm not opposed to that, but I guess I'm just trying to justify the 10, right? And the other one is the max warrior ratio, which I believe is
overstated on here. So, you know, you're currently at 64.62 required is 78 and you're showing 88. So, my point being is you're you've got seven nonconformities now. So, if this gets disapproved, you're still at a
house with seven nonconformities and you're going to be trying to can jam something else creative on this lot. And I'm not sure it's possible. So, based on that, I'm just I'll just throw it out there. Like, I think if you're willing to figure out this dormer situation, I
do favor the application. Um because I don't think anybody's going to be able to knock it down and you're going to have another crazy looking building there. It's going to have probably conformities as well. So, I don't know. I'm in favor, but I think the dormer
thing is like if you could just do maybe two, I don't think that would trigger a balance, right? Two dormers. >> Yeah. >> That'd be true. >> Yeah. Especially if it's for aesthetics. So, like it's just something that maybe if you're willing to work with the board or the the building department on that, then that would be a good
>> just change the um >> you should just maybe go back and work with your architect on that. I'm I'm inclined to vote in favor of this application if you're willing to like make the dormer thing less of a an issue. >> I just 10t. It's not a stretch.
>> Instead of 13 that's um I can say that we can let me you're done. >> Yeah, I'm done. I'm in favor. I think that there's nothing that you're going to be able to build here that is inconformist that's not going to have
six or seven is the way I like unless you're putting a dry apartment in as a fun you're going to have parking and you're going to have one bedroom two bed. So I they got they got pinched when whoever approved the subdivision that was ridiculous. So you're sitting on a
lot that's half the size it should be. >> I I too I agree with Chuck and almost everything he said there. Um, if you look on the cover page of this, the houses that are similar to what neighborhood and this a dormer that they have on this side here, you can put two
of those up there. Now, that would be within their without a bar, right? An ashaped dormer. >> Yeah, similar to home two. And instead of putting that 10 foot wide shed, put two A-shaped doors.
>> Yeah. I mean, there's a set back in your wall below. >> You could probably do that. So, if you set them back far enough so you're in compliance with our variances, put two awar
it wouldn't trigger the another variance. It would help reduce the number of variances and I think it would look maybe better, you know. with a regular window in it and it wouldn't be so wide. It wouldn't be 10 foot wide. It' be two whatever width was allowed.
Um, and I agree with with Chuck that if there's changes to your floor area ratio, we should know that. I hate to make them come back this way. I think maybe that's
if you if you fail this vote now, like our chairperson said, you have to make significant changes in this application. If you just say, "I'm going to wait." >> You can use the same ideas, but maybe change the dorm, go to your architects,
ask them about those dorm that I'm suggesting, and correct your floor area ratio. You may be within compliance. So, that's where I'm being right now. I would suggest that to you. I would suggest that to you, but if we have to vote tonight, I would vote for it
because I think you're doing a lot with you know, a very small lot. That's my suggestion. Go back to your architect and make it look a little better, maybe a little redesign, and then make the workshop bigger.
>> That's all I got. >> Just come visit you. >> Um, Phil and Chuck said, exactly what I would have said, especially what Phil just said. Um, I wanted you to make you fully understood that if you said no, I want
to vote tonight. If you didn't get five votes, okay, that's where we're saying you'd have to come back and start all over again from the very beginning, right? Start from the beginning. Go, >> from the very beginning with the notices and everything else. So, if you table
it, talk to your architecture, get everything ironed out, and then come back. That would be the advice. That's it. And I'd be in favor simple. >> No, I have an issue with the parking,
but I don't know if there's a solution. >> Garage first garage. Sure, there's always a solution. >> Well, every architect that comes and visits us from Yeah, you don't have a parking
>> still need two cars. >> Theoretically, >> they had a garage. Could they park a car sideways >> parallel to the >> No, it's got to be straight in. in Lake Como right there >> and the garage door has to be set back
20 ft from the property >> or it's a variance >> still be a variance but we're not >> right now you have no technically no legal parking >> correct >> no with this plan
>> well the plan was just based I'm I'm working with this property that's tight so we took literally I 16 ft of that width which would in two cars flip it and I kept the same opening
the best I personally fully understand. >> So right now we're pulling question. So right now we're pulling in vertical. >> No, you can't. >> You can't park sideways.
>> Has to be straight. Okay. So if I do, >> no straight. >> All right. So >> I guess we need to get those little cars. >> Uh in Mr. Ross' defense there, he's right. you know, just uh you know,
there's seven or eight maybe and then you have you're triggering a bunch of eliminating those and understand your architecture to it, but you know, you're going to be asking for 10 or 11. So that's a recommendation. I would also
recommend you have a text meeting in Canada or provide a resource note that states that he confirms all dimensions and such. Um and at this time I would vote no for the
application based on parking and setbacks. No, you have the option uh if you have any other you have questions for us. We're pretty leaning board if you can't come >> in and other municipalities. We would have been out of here half hour ago.
>> So, we're just trying to advise you. >> I think you're trying >> you have the right to proceed to a vote. >> No, we understand. We also understand >> that there's a lot of answers
>> and that we are open to your suggestions >> professional >> looking I would say disagrees but I think you want the table so we can >> I agree. >> Okay. >> So you know what Mr. Chairman, what what
I would what I would say is and and again um I do appreciate this board because they treat Belmar residents or will be Belmar residents as fellow citizens and as the the chair just sort
of indicated um many other boards would have said no goodbye and that's not the way this board. So, I think if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly, and I think I am, it's a challenging lot, but there certainly appears to be people on the board who recognize the challenging
nature of this lot. However, there's a couple of things that at a minimum need clarification, what you all said about the Floria ratio, and that constitutes a D variance, which is a higher standard than than the the normal typical C variances. And to Mr. Ross's point, you
might not even need it or it might be less. Um, and the not knowing is is a problem for us because not that we ever expect there to be litigation, but if there was ever litigation and we approve something and the judge would say, "Well, how did you even know what you
were approving?" um, that's sort of a, you know, end of the discussion right there. The other thing is uh as was indicated maybe you could work with your architect and come back and and eliminate some of the variances for and it seems like you've already agreed to
adjust the those dormer situations. And Mr. Mr. Chairman, I always get nervous when people make uh just decisions without reviewing with your architect and and making sure it doesn't trigger any other type of problems because if you say yes right now and then you talk to your architect, he might say, "Did
you know that because you did this now, you can't have this?" And and so it's never good uh to to do that. And there's uh the other thing is there's some things on the plan that need to be cleared up. And my experience is if
there's ever sort of inconsistencies or problems on the plans and we don't catch it and I applaud the board because they do catch it. But having errors or inconsistencies on the plan only makes it worse later on and it makes you have to come back and it makes a lot of a lot
of stress. And then the other thing is um it's just uh like I said if your architect could just verify the each town has a different ordinance and each town defines floor area ratio differently and we here who are even
experts on this our ordinance have always have to ask Ted some some uh fairly intense question. So >> true. >> Uh yes. So, what I'm suggesting is what the board said as you could have a vote tonight and if you don't get the five
yes votes then it's denied and I would suggest that you come back, you know, uh we're just going to adjourn it so you don't have to do notice again. Um and maybe you come back with your architect or have your architect, you know, address some of the questions and uh comments and your architect can reach
out to to Ted um and and work out those things. So what we're going to ask uh do you consent to adjourn this and we'll give you a new date so you don't have to come back. Uh we just need your consent to extend the time frame. So Mr. Chairman, should I formally ask them?
>> I would appreciate it. >> Okay. So when would the next hearing be? >> April 23rd. >> So we would ask if you if you would consent to carry this to April 23rd uh 2026 without the need for any further uh
variances. And then in that point, uh, the good thing about this board is you've heard every single thing that everybody has said. So you've heard the questions, you've heard concerns, um, and you've heard some people say, "Hey, this is a big concern for me. You've heard other people say, "This is a
concern for me, but I can get over it." So the good thing is you have the opportunity to try to address as many of those concerns. And of course, there's no guarantee as to what's going to happen, but So, uh, do you consent to extend it to Absolutely. >> April 23rd, 2026 without the need for
any further public notice. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. And um Mr. Chairman, we'll just we'll come back and um work it out. >> Can I just ask one thing here? If they were to open those doors up to the
inside, does that trigger anything else as far as their floor area ratio is concerned or anything like that? Because they're not open to the inside. >> Well, it's it's a nonhabitable half story. So it's not going to trigger anything. It's got to be habitable
trigger. >> So you could open it to the inside. >> I do know that. But the sunlight that would get at that angle would just cook. >> Okay. >> That you have a reason. >> And again, the only reason I was doing it
>> is to make it look nice. >> Yeah. No, I did. I just was wondering, you know, if some day you eventually change the use of the room or something like that, you'd have daylight. >> No, it's great. That's all open. So,
>> maybe you could make it a workshop. >> Maybe you could make it a workshop. >> Do you have any questions for us, ma'am? >> Yes. Do we have to have a workshop in our home? >> Yes. Yes, ma'am. >> I think it's a condition. >> Okay. No, we understand the burden that
you that you have here, but you have to understand our positions that there's a lot of variances and I just your application I think the board would agree with me. I'm never one to vote on a uh a property andor vote favorably if
I do not feel comfortable with having the appropriate numbers. I think track record >> it's not beneficial to the applicant. It's not beneficial for the municipality. It's not beneficial for the board. So I wouldn't feel
comfortable not even though these two gentlemen in the end are more than capable of probably figuring out your floor area ratio. I still would not I would not understand. >> Do we have to resubmit plans prior to this meeting >> or make changes?
>> Okay. >> You have the option to discuss with potentially going back to May so you can get all your ducks in a row in 2030 is three weeks. >> So there there there's some time frames as to when plans have to be submitted. So what I would suggest is you talk to
your architect and have your architect reach out to Ted if he has he or she has any questions and then if there are going to be plan revisions and they can't get submitted you know 10 days before the hearing you can get adjourned again but work that out with your architect first. I think it's good idea
to try to preserve the date. Um, but if you find out tomorrow the architect says, "I'm away for the next month. I can't do it." Then call April and we'll >> Any other questions about >> Happy anniversary. >> I'll make a motion to
have Miss Clauddio. I'm sorry. I caught it. April. >> Go for it. All right. We're gonna we're going to conclude your application and we're going to proceed on to some other >> and I guess this would render motion to
adjourn um the sale of application to without the need for any further public. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? So, um, in 2023, the board approved a new house at 208.
The homeowners gave me a letter. Um, they one owner had some extensive health issues and their current home up in North Jersey had a fire. So, they've been delayed and their approvals expired
this past January. So they're asking um that they be extended um a year so that they can actually do house. >> I think I read on the bottom that are under construction and it's not the house that was quote on
fire. No, no. The fire was at the primary. >> While that one's under motion to approve to grant them based on >> until we retroactively make it to whatever at that time. And then just one
quick question, not about this in general, do we have to say anything about new flood regulations or is that just on them? >> We don't have to do it. Okay. >> Any other comments from anybody else? >> And I would also say just to keep the
cost down, you know, we don't need to do a resolution or a letter A to just send a letter, put it in the file and just not have me do anything if that's okay. >> Very nice. What date were you going to use the expiration date? >> Yes. >> Of the original. >> The original. Yes. That would be that
that's the norm. >> So one year extension from January. >> Yes. January. >> Just to but they have to file permits. Is that correct? basically >> I'll make a motion to >> all in favor. >> I have one more. Um
2022. >> Oh, wait. No, this one was also 232 Street. It was an application to widen an existing driveway. Um the owner sent a letter and they requesting an extension to the final
site plan. Um included in their final approval as a PA patio and walkways. When CO was issued in 2024, they could not afford to complete the patio and the other exterior work due to unexpected
construction costs and they're working with a landscaper to design and install the patio stone walkway in the existing stone bed. They would also like to complete the outdoor shower stall
that was on the plan and the plumbing shower was installed as part of the construction. So they're just as they didn't put um a time they just asked for an extension. So this was approved in August of 2023
and the resolution was adopted in September of 2023. >> The letter They're working with a landscaper to design what we already approved. >> Working with a local landscaper to design paper with a stepping stone
walkway in an existing stone. >> There's myself. the um in front of the garage you have papers then a walkway with papers to the front door which is on the side
pavers at the driveway over the garage is the papers stop and it's just big rocks big stones that's what I'm thinking that they're talking about over the stone bed put papers there to extend the walkway
down so they can into that front door either from the step that's on the side of it or just walking straight in. They can walk straight in on pavers, but then they they're walking into the backyard. They're going to be walking on pavers and then onto rocks to get to the
backyard. I don't know what they're doing in the backyard. >> It's got to be in coordinates with the plants. Whatever. >> Either I think you would just because assuming that what they said dies up the plans seems okay. But probably in April's letter, she should just say, you
know, we're extending what was the the building permit date for what was approved. >> Just for matter of record, they're asking they got approvals of dry wa but never did that.
>> Is that what she's in that? >> I'm here. >> No, just to complete the paper and other exterior work that was the Sorry. But no, this was >> so it's outdoor shower.
>> Patio, walkways and outdoor shower and they didn't finish >> and if something that's gets approved, all the um drainage and everything would be looked at and everything >> and we typically have a condition that's
at the end. I don't know for a fact, but we usually have it grading drainage details to be reviewed and approved by the the burough engineer. I mean that's typically it's >> right. >> So how long do we want
the dates? So we go by when they were originally >> I think just for record keeping purposes we should go from what was it? >> So it it technically expires September of 2025. So you can as long as you want or as short as you want, but that's
probably we should make it retroactive to that. >> So, give them a year September 26. >> That basically gives them six months to do an outdoor shop. I'm good with that. Anybody else? Any
other comments? We're good on it. I'll make a motion to give extension to September 26. Do we have to vote on Kevin's addendum? >> You know, we we don't. Um I'll just >> I think it's great.
>> Oh, Phil, thank you. And but I'll just put it in each resolution. And so basically, if you all vote, you know, for that first application tonight when we do the resolution, if you vote with it in there, it's included. But yeah, that that's the so it's a good idea, I think, that you guys had. So uh just a
question on uh the actual operation. So say somebody >> do we want to close the meeting and then do it or >> not even on >> what if somebody does a knockdown
and they build it without going through Ted? What what happens then? Ted gets really ticked off here. Um and and and Ted Is that illegal? >> Yeah, that's illegal to fix. But what
what happens is and it happens. Uh so Ted will issue a stop work order uh or Ted's office or someone in the construction office and they have to come back uh to to the uh to the board
to either get new approval um and um or you know something else. and the town, we as a zoning board are not a penal entity. Um, so we don't control that, but the the code enforcement office can go out and issue notice of violations
and and things like that. And I think the way the ordinances typically are, if it's a, you know, typically, not that you ever do this unless it's really um, exent circumstance, but I think technically the fines can be fines every single day is is how they I mean,
they typically don't But then if you issue someone notice violation and find that they're still working, then it gets super ticked off and that's when, you know, the fines can. But yeah, that that's >> I thought it was great. >> There's another house on uh 13th. I
think it's 113. That's going to come back. >> We stopped that one. This was in front of the board. They changed the front of the structure. All the interior, none of the plans look the same. So we stopped that one. He's good. Good.
>> No, we we can't do anything to an architect, engineer, or contractor. The the fine goes to the applicant, >> the property owner. Yes. >> Property owner. >> Responsible. Yeah. >> Okay. But that and that's why because of
that concern is is why we have in our standard letter, hey applicant, owner, you know, you're responsible because sometimes people say, hey, my builder did it. And sometimes the builder did do it with throughout their knowledge, but it's only somebody has the owner is the one who has to take the broken.
>> Just curious, same builder. >> No, a different one. >> Just curious. Anybody else? Anybody? >> I'd like to say it was a pleasure to be
good everybody. So I will make a motion to close the meeting for today. >> So second all in >> favor. Thank you.