official newspapers and notice was posted on the board Municipal Building take roll Mr Ross Mr here mrben Mr Mr here FL United
States stand indivisible business to take care of I think Mr Kennedy don't we yes sir have a motion to approve the February 275
minutes second is that is that a correction it's January 30th correct oh I'm sorry okay so ladies and gentlemen this is the Croco resolution so two the resols that we're doing were a little complicated
because there were substantial revisions as ultimately approved TCO 2133 Avenue is both variant approval Associated a request to convert an existing garage to a pool house and the document went
through the history of the at least the site currently contains an existing single family home with a two story detached garage and shed and that has initially presented the applicant of permission to convert the existing two story garage into living space second dwell department for use by an
individual with special medical needs related to the occupance of what would be the main dwelling and they testify that because of the special needs having this uh extra uh dwelling unit on site would be good for the privacy of the affected individual as well as um allow
for easy care comfort and uh convenience um for the individual since the family would be in the main structure uh the board members were certainly sympathetic to The Plight and the reason for the initially submitt appliation but you all had concerns apprehension uh from a
zoning standpoint and apprehension about creating a second dwelling unit or apartment on the the site and not consistent consist with the master and so ultimately the application was
adjourned and it came back with the approval I mean with the proposal which is basically just to create the convert the existing garage to a schol house and we talked about um how this amended application is
so much less intense so much less dense so much more in keeping with the spirit of the and intent of the zoning ordinances and um we also said so one of the variances that were needed was for the height of the accessory structure remember our pool housee ordinance
allows for one story and the gist of this argument if you adopt this is that it's an existing twostory right now and if you adopt this you all think it would be unwise and not productive and a hardship to require the
applicants to demolish a part of what is otherwise the sound structure which is recently um renovated just so that it meets with the cool house ordinance Provisions there's a variance for a setback uh for the um building coverage
25% allowed 30.5% currently exist changing as a result of this application close to structure already changes I already exists and with regard to our pool house ordinance again the one story versus the two story and the pool house
coordinance also says that uh no heating and air conditioning is allowed and I'll talk to you about this momentarily but I believe the applicants did say that they ultimately wanted heat so that they could swim in the cooler months and I think at the end they did sort of
because of some of the prevailing uh UCC regulations they might have to uh put an air conditioner upstairs because that would be the only place that it could exist and anyway the U this document says that the board appreciates the
changes that were made and the conditions of note were they revised the plans remember we've um revised the plans so confirmation that there should be no cooking facilities in the pool house confirmation that the pool house shall not as a living space or dwelling
unit ABS further formal approval of the Belmar zoning board confirmation that the pool house shall only contain a half bathroom which is specifically permitted ordance confirmation that the second story of the pool house shall be utilized for storage purposes only uh confirmation that the exterior air
conditioning system shall be relocated to the west of the structure in a zoning compliant location and that at the applicant cost they're going to uh install a code compant bigger larger sewer line with Municipal specifications the details of which will be reviewed and approved by the B engineer
confirmation that there's no grade change confirmation that the air conditioning system installed shall be energy a new energy efficient and confirmation that there's no egress window um on the second floor of the pool house further minimizing the likelihood that it would be used for
living space and we basically said that the board has not approve the initial plans we only approved the plans that I think Mark this A9 that were ultimately revised February 10th and that in accordance with the pool house ordinance they're going to
report a de restriction that says the purpose of this is not to allow this to be used as a bing unit now our ordinance says it also has to say no air conditioning and no heating I think we have to modify that if we're approving that and we'll also say that
the D restriction um that says the pool out should not be converted to living space absent for the formal approval and that the second the pool house should only be utilized for storage purposes and that the obviously the Deep restriction applies to the applicants as well as any successor owners and um all
all that um so that's the gist of it so I just wanted to make sure that you all were um and I'm sorry for but I just want to make sure that you're all on board that you ultimately did allow one question they said they were going to shet Rock and insulate the
second floor does that have to be part of the resolution so I did have that at one point and actually Jeff beakman the applicant's attorney is here tonight another matter so we can ask him I did have as initial condition uh confirmation that was only going to be
uh only the the second would not be insulated and Mr chairman can we hear from Mr be on that certainly okay yes uh so two things U that question I'll address and there's one other item regarding the location of the AC unit so
that uh item what the discussion was We There was initially there was no intention to have to insulate that second floor however if it's required for the energy code we may have to insulate that section second floor however the heating and air conditioning
uh the intention is to heat and air air conditioned the first floor only uh and insulating that second floor will be only to comply with the energy code uh for construction purposes and the constru department process hey Jeff am I allowed to jump in yes if if you don't
mind Mary come on do I need to swear in uh no you're still under oath but if you just come up and speak into the mic just identify yourself for the rec of Mary Hearn licensed architect on that project perfect and I believe the conversation was we intended
to um insulate the first floor because of the hdac but then it was discussed that we were not enclosing the stair and thus the air and heat would all run upstairs so that's why we then could we insulate upstairs and that makes sense
okay correct and the only other comment I did just want to mention um I believe that our AC units the exterior condensers were in a conforming location so I don't think there was any intention or requirement to relocate them however
they will be in a conforming location okay so I wrote that down and that doesn't mean anything that sometimes I shift out does anyone have a recollection of Shifting the air conditioner to the I don't remember okay we you cross that out so let me just and again it will be a conforming location
so whether it's moved or not it's going to be conforming thank you so Mr chairman uh if that's accepted we can adopt that subject to Ted and legal uh review I just that was sort of I spent most the resolution saying why the first one wasn't
approved that is modified I as long as it's reflecting that um the is going to located the code compli location because that came up for some reason and I honestly don't recall what the um why
that stipulation was made at the time we approved it either but as long as it's code compant okay yeah we didn't give any yeah you want to confirm the date on that uh keevin those hearings were December 19th and
February 27th yes can I have a motion to approve that resolution Mr R yes Mr Greg yes Mr Luben yes Mr diori yes next is Donald Brown this was 1110th Avenue uh this resolution has
been submitted this was use variant for the installation of a pool on a lot containing more than one uh residential structure and the conditions of note were that the revised plans to show the elimination of the existing asphalt driveway and the replacement of the same as approximately
1,146 ft of semi perious papers 18 ft wide with the ability to accommodate six Vehicles relocation of the existing East West fence of the site slightly shifted to the North in his own compliant location so that the fence would not interfere with any parking inclusion of parking of pool compliant fence details
and use of semi perous favers as testified to and otherwise reference during the public hearing process and uh there is no change to the uh existing curve cut but the variance that was granted here was for the uh driveway uh
what was use variant for expansion of Performing use and the uh impervious coverage and the driveway with something else going to aband yes did you yeah and I'm sorry we have that I'll
make sure that's in there uh abandon any potential AB that's in there but I'll make sure oh now wait a minute okay and then this is was that um I know it was brought up it was okay so then we will um that was my
question so then we'll definitely put it in there and put in there that it'll be uh recorded at some capacity the official uh release so we can uh thank you we can adopt that as modified if that's the pleasure of the
board I'll make the motion that we adop that second Mr yes Mr yes Mr yes Mr yes next is the resolution to dismiss the application of Jonathan Zamora 515th
Avenue Mr chairman you recall we heard that application December 19th and there were some questions and comments and we said come back um and then I think there was another continuation and they were supposed to um come back and on about March 17th the applicant sent an email
to April saying let's just dismiss the application and uh so all this resolution does is officially dismiss it without prejudice so that the um April close her books and just move on with life okay good I'll make that motion
I'll second Mr yes Mr GRE yes Mr Mr Mr L Mr yes Mr Dior yes okay and the last one is Carrera 503 12th Avenue this is another um sort of
complicated one because there were a lot of uh changes so let me just get my notes for a second so ultimately uh you'll recall the initial application was uh for conversion of the existing front structure from a two
family home to a single family home and it was also to preserve the existing rear structure and installation of a pool and installation of other site improvements board members had some questions comments and concerns about whether uh the legal standards have been
satisfied so as ultimately amended um what they went for is conversion of the two family front structure on the site to a single family structure and conversion of the rear structure on the site from a potential two family unit to a single family unit and conversion of
the first floor of the existing rear structure uh to a two-car garage and installation of pool and installation of other improvements now you'll recall I sent this resolution about a month ago and at the last hearing we adjourned it
because Joe Co I think does he okay so he had some um uh some changes because in my mind again this was all sort of done on the Fly um I thought incorrectly that the whole downstairs of the rear
structure was going to be just the two-car garage and and I think he clarified it no it's going to be um the two-car garage and a portion of the structure but I'll read it was going to be basically uh modified so that was
part clearly part of the upstairs uh apartment of the be structure and not uh could not be I think there was concerns that the way it was set up someone would use it it didn't look like it belonged to the upstairs unit so the conditions of note and there's a couple of them um upon adoption of the within resolution
and expiration of an AAL period the pre-existing multif family use associated with the existing front structure shall be deemed to be officially abandoned and likewise upon adoption of within resolution to the extent necessary the pre multi family use associated with the existing rear
structure shall be officially and perpetually abandoned in favor of single family use for that rear structure and uh we're going to record the within resolution or a memorandum of it so just we have a little bit extra protection and let's see um the plans are going to
be revised and again this is a little challenging only because it's not stuff that you saw but the um they're going to obviously perpetually maintain the Landscaping the building cover will not exceed 32.3% the new siding of the structure shall appropriately complement and match
each other perious uh papers we say perious or semi- pervious paper shall be utilized for the driveway semi semi all right and then we said um there shall not there shall be no
more there should be no more than a twoot Eve over the balcony on the second floor open porch uh the pool equipment shall be perpetually screened I think Tony one that on all sides they comply with impervious lot covered requirements proposed garage shall be a two- far
garage confirmation that the garage shall be partitioned from the living space in the their structure for prevailing building and construction those requirements and there was confirmation that in the rear structure the first FL walls around the stairs shall be quot
opened up so as to not partition the stairwell and entrance uh other areas of the first floor of the rear structure confirmation that in the rear structure the existing stairwell is open at the bottom I open to the living space on the first floor confirmation that
there's no bedrooms on the first floor of that rear structure confirmation that the first floor living space and rear structure is to be open in part of the second floor unit confirmation that the closed staircase and the rear structure shall be opened up to the remainder of the first floor C to ensure that the first floor living space is part of the
upstairs unit and so as further confir the portion of the r structure can not be utilized as a separate flowing unit apartment or bedroom um confirmation that the residential apartment on the second floor of the rear structure shall only be configured with one defined
bedroom and confirmation that the walls partitioning the living room family room and bedroom in the rear structure shall be reconfigured or arched I think one the terms so as to delineate only a uh single bedroom and single uh livable area and I think we wanted to make sure
that the tax got a copy of this and our other standard changes so I thank Joe because was a little bit challenging but that's the gist of it if that's acceptable to you we can adopt it as as modifi Mr yes Mr Greg yes Mr yes Mr
fitgerald yes Mr L yes Mr O'Neal yes Mr Dior yes um before we get into the applications just one announcement the application for Barbara bagu 42 Inlet Terrace um has been postponed to
the June 26th meeting and there will not be any further notice June 26 and for the record the applicant did consent they had a witness a last minute witness problem but they did consent to extend the time frame
with which the board has to act yes okay so the first application tonight will be uh Jay Donovan and Michelle buzy 103 there okay so Mr chairman a couple things first April April there was a presentation in
February no okay it was on the agenda no okay I just ask so April is everyone here eligible to vote okay so Mr chairman at Le my recollection is at the
first backs and be clarified and then I think there was request the apps re notice because they didn't know or didn't notice for the building cover La cover calculations I think in the interest of transparency
you all wanted to make sure that was noticed they Reen noticed but there was uh ini with that notice so they Reen noticed again we appreciate that and I think the uh April there's only two or three things we have to mark in so the
first thing I'm going to ask the applicants for good enough to re notice is anyone here have any questions or comments or concerns with the the re notice okay so April and I reviewed it and found everything to be in order and
iil we're starting at A6 so A6 I'm going to Mark as April I have here development application and like you're writing in yellow then I think we got a
A7 is a revised minor land use application denial that in February 15 2025 that's head right right it's called third review is there anything else new new plan so
a is the new plan and that's this onear by okay so we'll undated let's see undated but have Mr uh authenticated
momentarily and it's consisting of sheet and what we'll do is we'll swear in uh Ted the Ted you are the zoning officer and construction
official bur ofm do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide to the extent you provided will be the truth best your knowledge to help you guys okay and you know what Mr chairman just because it's been so long why I just swear your team in again just
so that we're all uh uh so uh Mr Amano just state your name and address please Paul Gano architect Main Street Joseph kba K CA kba Engineering Services M Jersey liced engineer and liced
plan okay perfect so ladies and gentlemen if you can all raise your right hand do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide will be the truth the best you knowledge to help you guide all right let the record reflect all Witnesses have been sworn and Mr Eno
your licenses and certifications as an architect are current and up to date and good standing and Mr kba your certifications and qualifications as an engineer and planner are up to date in good standing yes okay and um just to get the ball rolling because it's been a
while um uh Miss uh if I could just ask you are you you indicate that you and your husband are the owners of the property yes yes and roughly how long about n years uh and my notes reflect there a single family home Y and do you live
there okay and um I know you're U and we'll get this from your testimony from your uh Witnesses momentarily but from reading the notes it looks like you're proposing um uh an addition to a home in a
garage no just no okay so we'll get that and what about just for the existing home right now um uh how many bedro there three and how many bathrooms two and with the existing garage is it just a garage oh yeah okay so there's no uh
it's not used as living space no okay and are there any utilities in the existing garage electric electric okay you know what what would just swear you in say your name for the record James J Don all right you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide will
be the truth the best your to help you guys thank you all right so turn it over to the witnesses and and you can talk about the application so we do have two additional exhibits prepared by my office which I
will hand out so A9 is what A9 is a calculation build C all right uh building and impervious calculation prepared by a correct and we'll put today's date uh
March 27 2025 and then A10 A10 is an aerial exhibit prepared by my office an exhibit date of February 26th thank you away years we got
good evening everyone I'm Paul repres C client um have before you an undiz lot existing one story home that is proposing to add a story and a
half a l level uh included to um allow for four bedrooms uh three uh three baths and a uh we're proposing also to rebuild the roof of the existing garage which is
back currently um the home is actually before I start that I'd like um buy to just explain the needs for their home and why we're here tonight good evening ladies and gentlemen um so
we B the house about n years ago at the time we were living in Staten Island so we used to come back and forth back and forth a lot um but we never were there any length of time really this past summer since we became snows um the whole summer here and we
realize that it is house is barely 1,4 square foot it's really small I mean it's three bedrooms but the bedrooms are like really tiny so we realize that if we have company his mom comes by
a lot um it's it's really it's just not really that listen we can live there but we don't want we want to live a little bigger we want to live bigger um you know this was my dream when I met my husband um the only thing on my wish
list was a house in Belmar I was a Benny I was a Denny in my 20s and my early 30s and um I really wanted this house and I really want to continue with this house why his mom comes that's why we're going to put a bedroom on the first floor for
now and then when we get to be his mom's age we're probably going to have to use that bedroom on the first um you know that's really love Belmar I love Belmar and right now we're getting ready for the big explosion of building that's going to happen as soon as the Belmar
gets torn down and refurbished and um I think a lot of the houses next door to us are going to get torn down as well nothing's changed on that block since we got the house except the corner the very corner on o Avenue um all the houses are
the same they all there a lot three I think three four five three on one side two on the other side of um animal houses or you know summer big summer rals and we want our house to be beautiful and now it's kind of getting
to the point where it's old you know it needs to be refurbished so this is our opportunity thank you any questions pres okay very good the home has a couple of unusual
conditions on the West Side you can see by the site plan that there is a a protrusion of 2T by 10t to the west side which basically encroaches over the neighbor's property line um the um the
clients are goinging to remove that so they have access around the around that side of the property and there's another projection on the east side which is currently a dining area that's 2 and 1/2 ft by 10 ft we're going
to eliminate that also to provide easier access to the driveway to accommodate the required parking the U the home that's inspected by our engineer
and by myself basically has two separate areas in the foundation the front part of the home is on a craw cra space if you want to call it that but there's no footing um under that under that crawl space and under the existing block
however the rear of the home or the bulk of the home is a is a a walk around basement that also um does not have a footing but it will support the home itself so we're our proposal basically
is to um independently support the perimeter of the home the same as we do if we're raising a home something like that on peers with heavy micr beams and uh and support it that way and to
introduce and introduce permanent peers in the foundation five along each side and one in the center in the middle uh to support the Disney home that will allow us to retain the existing set pack
from on the East the parking and the driveway the um the setback is currently 14.5 I took laser measurements along the entire
block from the ex existing sidewalk and then deducted the 5 foot from the sidewalk to the property line and the average uh the average setback is 11.63 Ft um along the entire block I'm sorry 11.63 ft yes
The Proposal on the first floor is to provide an open floor plan we're proposing an 8ft position to the rear of the home 2 and a half stories high which will allow us an open area
dining living area uh a small Nook or parlor as you enter the home we're going to retain the existing porch in its current location with current set pack we're creating the bedroom that Miss buddy had referred to
with uh with its own bath which will serve as a powder room as well and then we have the kitchen towards the rear of the home with sliding doors entering up and an access to the basement um which is currently exist we're going to
continue that the existing garage I'm showing here basically is 10 ft off the existing home and our proposal there is to reconstruct the roof of that of that structure the second floor will provide for two bedrooms and
a um a gathering area towards the uh rear of the home along with the with the den area um at the front of the home which would get provide for a view of the ocean and then there's a a second
floor deck over the existing porch the L level will consist of a bedroom area a bath a landing a walk-in closet and then
a long strip closet along this uh along the Westerly side and then um and then exterior deck to the rear over that 8ft U 8T addition we calculated the existing 5T
Heights uh providing with proper percentage of the FL below and that is the sum total of my presentation I'm going to leave the setbacks and other requirements to
mrba I have a question sure Joe you have ous coverage at 7759 on the plan it's at 75 you have building coverage yet
698 on the plan is 44 um you have the floor area ratio posed is 80% on the plane and he has required
70 you know I don't know what so my office was tasked with verifying the building and impervious coverage requirements uh and and hence the calculations that we provided uh these these calculations supersede the numbers
that are shown on the plan these are the accurate ones that my C my office calculated from the survey and from the proposed conditions so these are the coverages we're requesting the floor area ratio does does appear to be accurate at an 80%
request and it is and just do me a favor so what's the building coverage building coverage 46.9 98% proposed I'm sorry Building C 46.98 proposed and what about 7.59% prop so those are the quotequote
real numbers those are the numbers that we're requesting yes okay do we mark this in this is A8 A9 A9 and the area was A10 got it does the F trick variance
yes you're aware right that that five votes of seven yes yes we are aware the fact that the f is is necessary um it triggers What's called the D variance which means five
you need five yeses instead of the normal great okay and I will be right a testimony about the I'm sorry we're kind of jumping ahead I okay are the questions satisfactorily
answered or yeah yeah okay good all right um I think I was asking the board if they'd like to ask questions now or let so taking a look at the plan and I did uh um have the site plan blown up
we can see it a little better um on the left is the existing uh conditions uh from the survey on the right is the proposed pop plan items that you'll notice that the uh existing uh structure footprint Remains the Same with the uh with the exception of
removal of the overhangs making the driveway more operable the current driveway uh is accessible but get red tight uh near that rear overhang um so now the the driveway would fully accessible we do have an undersiz lot it's an interior lot on the south side of 12 uh
3,661 Square ft sorry 300 sorry 3661 where 5,000 is required uh that's 27% under uh the allowable or required coverage it's also a narrow lot 36.6 1 ft wide where 50 ft is required um so
that does present some challenges uh for developing the property um the width right off the bat obviously side setback and we are hence the reason we are proposing to maintain the existing structure um the uh Foundation as
identified by the architect does require um you know substantial structural support uh but we are maintaining that in its existing condition maintaining the framing of the first four and first four walls uh in order to uh maintain those pre-existing nonconformities
um the front yard set is 13 1/2 ft existing for the face of the structure it will match that in the proposed but I do believe we had a an incorrect 14 A2 not another plan but 13 and2 is accurately identified on the table so
132 exists and is what proposed we're not changing the front of that at all as a result of the application um and identifying the aerial exhibit that was submitted uh this evening if you take a look at the property and the surrounding properties you can see
uh the extent of the front y setbacks all generally in line um this home immediately uh adjacent homes are all one story homes there are a few twostory homes and two and a half story homes on the street uh but as the applicant had
indicated um you know this street is just starting to really redevelop uh with the with more uh contemporary homes and and homes me for year round use um that set back on the western side is 2
ft to the dwelling 0t to the overhang so certainly an improvement by eliminating that overhang um the total side setback is 12.25 ft where 15 ft is required um that is going to be uh and that's inclusive
of the primary portion of the home without the overhangs so by eliminating the overhangs we're not only improving side setback or improving total side um the existing building coverage is 42 2.65% there is an increase in building
covered as a result of the application from the rear addition of approximately 8 uh that expansion to the rear I'm sorry the existing building coverage is 42.6 and the maximum allowable 35% and
the proposed 46.98 thank you the existing impervious coverage however has been reduced uh substantially as result of the application the existing impervious is [Music]
85.4% and that's being reduced to 77.5% so we're taking almost 8% of the impervious coverage add of the property while increasing the size of the home uh that's being done by um clarifying the driveway utilizing papers
uh for the driveway and removing uh some superu uh EP stepping stones in the rear and cleaning up the impus most of the uh Improvement is by the use of pervious papers in accordance with the ordinance
uh that are compliant with the perious paper guidelines identifi uh so we are extending this one and a half stories up it is compliant with height um the front yard set back is going to match what previously existing existed as well as the porch
depth um the sidey setback we maintain that 1.94 ft setback on the western side that's pre-existing um we're simply expanding above the footprint there um obviously we understand the code has some limitations for fire code that we
completely comply with fire code uh with regard to uh that particular setback and all the setbacks on the property um for the new construction portion of it as well as uh um supplementing the existing first FL uh the rear yard setback
29.797963 when we take a look at the the floor plan you can see a narrow Hall um on the second floor uh and smaller bedrooms towards the front a very uh you know reduced width at the bathroom and laundry you see open Concept in the
first floor uh but the narrow home forces us to kind of push more towards the rear and that's what's really generating uh that impact to rear yard set back by the addition of the 8 ft uh towards the rear of the hall because
it's rather narrow 24 24t 4 in wide uh if we were to apply the uh required side setbacks obviously the uh the home would be substantially narrower around 20 ft or less in wi so certainly
a very narrow home work uh building coverage at 4 6.98% um is an increase of about 161 Square ft want to make clear that only 35.5% of the coverage is the home itself
most of the overage is the porch or the gro the porch accounts for 5.5% of the overage we have the porch is pre-existing and then is covered so this part of your uh your building covered the garage is 5.9%
uh the garage is being rebuilt in its location as we indicated the roof is being uh redone over the garage um the intent there obviously garage provides a lot of benefits on the property uh not only Safety and Security of vehicles but of uh you know that's where you keep
your Beach equipment boogie boards surf boards that sort of thing uh so having the ability to have outdoor storage as well as parking which there's ample parking on this property uh I think is certainly a benefit um to to maintain that garage which accounts for almost 6%
of the building coverage on this lot uh porches in addition are typical to the area you can see the porches throughout the uh the aerial of the uh of the street and certainly a typical architectural
feature um the impervious coverage most importantly is being decreased so even though we're increasing building coverage we're decreasing in purpose and I think I spoke in correctly 55% impervious is the requirement here we're reducing the impervious to
77.9% that's a reduction of almost 300 sare ft and then lastly we are asking for a floor area ratio here of 80% where 70% is permitted now a floor area8 78 per 78 per um so that that
overage of 2% does create a a de variance um for a floor ratio not not conforming uh with the orance now floor area ratio has a a different standard as you indicated a different voting standard but also a different standard
for the approval uh we look to uh R off uh versus Township uh R off Town Center versus Town Rand which is the prent case with regard to flor area ratio in that um what was determined by the courts is
that uh the use is permitted obviously single family residential is what's proposed single family residentials were imped in the zone uh so the request here really is impacted by the size and the poor area uh so we look at the size of
the deviation can the lot uh handle the increased size and that's really the uh the standard when looking at these uh that the courts say we need to comply with um like the conditional used variants um
an applicant must show that the site will accommodate the problems associated with the proposed use of larger floor area than permitted by the ordinance and Rand off specifically the findings by the board recognized that the trend in the area was for larger uses uh and the
offered addition was justified so in this particular case we look at does this added 161 Square ft any substantial detriment uh to the area or provide any substantial detriment to the Zone plan or the zoning ORD in my
opinion it does not we have a substantially undersized lock here we have a use that's permitted we're not substantially increasing the parking demand as a result of the application testimony was that there's four bedrooms proposed and four bedrooms existed not
intensifying the number of bedroom uh even though it's a rather small dwelling currently uh and there's ample parking on the site for the proposed four bedroom uh dwelling which requires two parking stalls under
the rsis four bedrooms 2.5 rsis says he round down5 so under that standard two parking stalls are required we have plenty of room for up to four parking stalls or more on the site so uh typically that's one of the
driving factors of a floor area ratio or in bedrooms is you know does it create a substantial parking bed in this particular case in my opinion does not in fact we're improving the case by eliminating the existing overhang uh which inhibits um some of the parking on
the site uh so for those reasons I do believe uh the D variant here the D4 variance under the statute can be granted because the site can accommodate that additional 161 ft of footprint
which equates to um about 2% equates about 60 extra square fet if we were to uh I'm sorry 70 square um if we were to eliminate that additional 2% of Flor area ratio we would lose about 70 square
feet out of the home so certainly not a substantial detriment created by that amount of area um that's about half of EX I also believe uh that the VAR can be granted and they can be granted under
the C1 and C2 criteria uh the front yard setback and side yard setbacks front yard setback is pre-existing uh so is the side setback so I do believe under the C1 criteria the hardship criteria uh that we have we certainly have an undersized lot and an undersized in lot
in width specifically so side yard setback I think is certainly justifiable on this narrow lot and is pre-existent so when we speak of hardship we not only speak of the lot the U structures that legally exist on the line so I do believe uh that the front and side
setbacks can all be granted under that C1 criteria um and I do believe there's a hardship on the lot because it's now and as I explained we have some in efficiencies that causes a home to be a little bit longer um that does equate to
the rear yard set as well the size of the lot really does hamper developing something compliant here uh I think we've certainly balanced what we're proposing against the size of a lot I don't think it's substantially larger than any the adjacent properties uh I
don't think the 8ot in my opinion 8ot additional um in the rear has a substantial impact in fact if you look at the AAL you'll see two houses to the West three houses to the East are all similar depth uh and those are some of the larger homes in the area that have
developed above the Bungalows that there are you know two two and a half story dwellings um um and the depth of those is equivalent if not deeper than the house that we're we're proposing here I also believe all the variances can be granted under the C2 criteria the
substantial benefit criteria we look the section two of the of land use law uh which notes the purposes of zoning in my opinion this application promotes purpose a to promote the general welfare and purpose I to promote that desirable visual environment uh the application
eliminates uh subst not performance the sidey setbacks the impact of parking by the overhangs reduces impervious coverage uh provides access to the garage and continues to uh provide a garage which I think is certainly a
benefit uh and most importantly substantially improves the Aesthetics of the property um we've heard me say about other applications before but I I think this one definitely stands out and it was driven past the property it needs some Lo it's
it's cute it's quaint I didn't warn I usually worn my Apple um but it definitely um does not match with some of the Aesthetics and some of the Contemporary architecture that we've seen throughout Belmar
recently um I think what's proposed is certainly more commensurate with that and commen with Shore architecture um and fiends that we've seen and typically throughout Belmar I think this is certainly a beautiful application as proposed and therefore promotes a
desirable visual environment um lastly we look at the the negative impact overall of all the variances is there a substantial detriment to the public good in my opinion there's no substantial detriment um obviously two and a half stories will have some impact to airl in
open space but the setbacks here exist uh and we're not encroaching upon them in fact we're pulling back um some volume away from the prop especially volume that sits right on the property line so I think that's certainly a benefit uh the rear setback matches
other homes in the neighborhood uh so I don't believe there's any substantial detriment to the airl open space in the rear yard if you're standing in the rear yard in the on the patio right now you look either East or West you see other homes in that line of sight at the the
depth that we're proposing so I don't think it's out of character the height here complies uh and almost all of the overage um is one story area so the porch is a one story porch the garage obviously a short um single car garage
uh so both of those not having substantial impact to airl and open space uh the primary central area of the home which is 35.5% of the lot coverage is the area that's 2 and a half stor uh the parking is fully compliant
so I don't believe there's any substantial detriment from the increase in size intensity as a result of uh the parking associated with the application uh I don't believe there's uh for those reasons I don't believe there's a substantial detriment to the public good as a result of the
application I also don't believe there's substantial detriment to the Zone plan with the zoning ordinance and under a d variance that's we look at that a little more closely but like I said we have a permitted use a single family here the the D variance is rather small at 2% and
uh um we're commensurate with some of the other development that surrounds the property and matching setbacks that exists there today or improving other than the rear setback which I think is anticipated given the undersized lot nature so I don't believe there's a
substantial detriment to the Zone plan as result of the appliation so I believe the the benefits here outweigh the detriments and the application uh does not have a substantial impact on the Zone plan or zoning ordinance so I believe theard can grant that's requested open the
questions thank you Mr are is that it for your presentation right so we go to board questions now and Mr don't one question I had that you
keep mentioning theage and reping the roof there's no pictures or anything is just like like shingles or the whole structure of the garage or what defer to Mr I'm sorry I couldn't hear what what are we doing to the garage we're
replacing the existing roof or rebuilding the existing roof right now it's kind of sway back uh from over the years it's probably something like 80 years old at this point my my guess and then pardon me from 1935 was okay all
right not far off and then we're going to we're going to refurbish it basically U with new siding to match to match the new home new Roofing naturally to match the new home and try to embellish it that way so the rest of the structures sound aside
from just a yes ma'am we might need a couple of studs here and there or something like that to support it but nothing substantial we're not proposing rebuilding walls or anything like that may I ask how wide the driveway is at some point it's only
wide that driveway correct the driveway proximately 9 ft wide um in the current condition when you account for the overhang it's only it's probably 7t or less once that's eliminated that that sidey setback is 10.34 but the driveway
is across the I you need a variance for thato right how wide is Drive driveway have to be I believe is 9 foot can be n that's a park 20 n 10
correct I I have one question sure Paul the saw on the principal structure on the right side how wide is that is structure on the right side of of the house how wide is the sub we we
were proposing uh 18 in okay because you only got 1.94 you can't do two be over the property exactly and obviously we have to firepro that entire side of the house yeah sure oh no no you don't okay no
problem Mr Ross you have the height of the garage is not changing it has saged a little it might change by a couple inches but we're trying to keep
existing it's lower in the middle well I have to take a little offense to a garage 80 years old and something wrong with that few mons away from that I'm with you there okay um anything else to the garage electric heat water anything else
that you're adding to it staying the same change the the garage door and the side door okay and you're going to try to the exterior of the garage is somewhat going to match the house yeah paint in the
to uh for the we we are we are going to propose to rewire the garage if that's a all yeah but just keep it like a 110 circuit whatever you need to charge a battery in a car that's it exactly what your surf board yeah
light drainage from the roof do you have any idea what you're going to be doing there so it doesn't go to the neighbor's property we can pipe that to uh some uh popup drains at the front of the proper it drains out the street and is uh you're going to have
underground electric to the house is electric service going to be run underground you can I don't know where the service comes from com across the street you can't do it I don't think it's on our side of the street but the utility
poles there is a utility pole in the backyard in the backyard um but right now it's bed from utility pole on our side in the front yard well if it's possible can you do
that you guys I would love to do that I think so so if feasible we would we will absolutely do that yeah we're going to enough excavation under that under that crawl space things where we basically accommodate that that utility PS on the
property corner so it looks to be thank Mr um can we just talk about I have a couple questions the the existing driveway is and you're proposing
imp pardon um so if we did Park strips we'd be able to get the impervious coverage pardon me the impervious coverage de not by but in practicality you're still not providing credit for that
yet I can't got to change um there's no drawing maybe I missed it I could be mistaken is there a drawing detail for the half St and then correct me if I'm mistaken is there is there a third floor
balcony over the rear yes and I guess the intent of that is it off the master it's not right no it's set back into the house itself Mr K you made a point it's 70 70
sareet why go for the Vari 70t we felt it's the appropriate size for the lock the 8 foot addition towards the rear so I think the lot can accomodated especially four bedroom and again we
have we have a balcony off the master bedroom into the rear yard right no no no no it's it said into the house itself said yeah I it does overlook correct
correct um can the existing garage accom but it doesn't now but the size of it can accommodate P it can physically accommodate aicle probably not put an F150 in there is it aage it's a garage you can
pull in open it can be a I don't think they use it as a garage we can't pull it we can't I can't pull in the driveway now I've only done it twice it's very that far really restricted I'm good for
that wased um I'm hearing you know the overages but uh seem to be okay based on minimal and neighbors uh the one
thing that caught my eye but I believe I answered it is uh on the two foot uh side yard windows on that side but when I flipped to the
elevations I see there is minimal it's the cas or whatever not they were only on the first floor because they're pre-existing um window units on the second and third floor we basically tried to
yeah you've got one window up there and the what looks like the first floor is just the The Hive wall and I worry about that after what happened on 14th Aven few weeks ago just
seeing that brand new home and being close to those and scorched and not because you will provide all the correct fire prevention that that would be fired
glass all and we don't have a choice we we have to comply with no I understand that but that that's more of an answering my own question whereas it's a positive criteria correct because to be clear the
existing home sits at zero fo setep back and does not comply uh currently so that both side will be uh fireproof allowable yes have a proper fire
okay that's all I have the plan it says patio 24 by 24 what material is that that's also prvious papers so is that 24 by 24 included in the driveway
number uh no we have oh there it is 365 yeah rear rear pad so what confuses me is if you're putting perious pavers in there at 50% right so in one you have concrete driveway 797
and in the proposed you have driveway 659 so you sure your calculations are correct yes the driveway did get n% it should be because right now goes the driver goes right up to the building and you see the propos we are actually
cutting it back leaving a strip next to the house it also extends to the fence okay and then the foundation you're I mean you're basically putting a new Foundation right that's what it
sounds like yes yeah for all purposes yes we are yeah okay that's all I got Mr okay uh did the garage uh shrink a bit from
your existing to proposed of four square feet I do see that change uh the proposed that 217 was based upon the the dimensions of the proposed on the uh on the plan um here you have existing 221 correct so if it didn't change is the
right number 221 uh I believe the right numbers 217 I think the 221 we scaled off the planet the 217 we calculated from okay so on the driveway don't want to be the dead horse here you have a 9
foot wide driveway you have to be one foot off the property line correct correct that's 10 ft that would leave you with 34 feet on the west side of the driveway but your scale that's more than 34 feet
between the house and the driveway that's correct we calculated it based upon the actual width and length not based that scale is off scale it's basically the west side of the driveway is up against the house about four in
off yeah yeah okay um see what else I have and and basically you're doubling the F on this yeah right now it's a one story bumbalo so it's certainly it might even more than that yeah it's more it's going
from 32 and a half to 80 so it's not like you're going a little bit more and you bump up against the 80 I mean or the 78 I mean you're going way over what you have now absolutely yeah trying want to make that clear right now it's a a
little 1100t you story Bungalow we're proposing a 2 and a half story dwelling uh but we are requesting that that F at 2% over the existing or what's permitted for this size and just to touch on Mr
O'Neal these peers are going to be on the inside of the perimeter or are they going to you're going to the existing perimeter correct so we have to maintain the existing perimeter so when we install those we call them
pilaster they get cut into the existing foundation wall um at uh know short intervals and then the rim joist is then supplemented to help support the rest of the stru right so yeah nothing exterior there's no there's no
lifting per se there's no lifting in these cases at contractor will certainly determine the best course of action but there are times where they do bring in similar to lifting the cribbing to help support it in place and that's really
for safety so as they're doing the work they make sure the house stays where it's supposed to and doesn't you know come down on them as it work yeah know I hav't done in my house but it's not being lifted up that's all I have questions comments in nature but
appreciate your uh going through uh all the uh posi relative to this application because you know as as you know not sure if everyone here does but um as you know it's important that we hear that and that go on record because if we are going to
Grant this application um with the D variant because of the exceeding the far uh 78% requirement um that is that is a necessary um component of our approval so you going through that and listing
all those was very helpful for me and I also don't believe that the um the difference between the 78% and 80% is material nature and would like to have seen it if you could have kept it to 78% or lower
um but at this point I think that's minous in my mind so it wouldn't sway me so I don't have any other comments or questions other than this so with that I'll open up to the public if there's anyone here from the public to speak on
this application just PR right PR Prest evening just your name and address please you spre that the information and testimony you're about to ride will be the truth best your knowledge to help you I do thank you so it's it's it's
really nice to see improvements on 12th Avenue uh I live you know a BL away and uh I think it's great that those bump outs are coming in because I've walked past the house and I don't know how you get in and out of there um yeah with
that being said though uh I read the notice and none of the setbacks and building coverage ratio seem to agree what we stand here tonight unless I don't have the latest one but this is the one from March 27 I mean I think I
got three so yeah they're probably worth three notices yeah so I don't know if that's a deficiency but probably should be addressed we know which you're referring to is it the latest notice you think is in I think it's the
latest notice I think it is because um Mr PR mentioned that it referenced March 27 yes I don't was another one March 27 but I think I have another one says February 20 so the notice
says and I we can ask mren and Mr yard uh 2.79 ft 35 ft required total side yard 12.25 versus 15 ft required building
coverage 44% versus 30% required impervious coverage 75% versus 55% required F 80% versus 70% required um accessory building set7
2.1 requ yeah so like impervious coverage I heard that was 80% building coverage ratio 48% maybe I didn't make not but I know they they don't agree um and uh the other thing about uh you
know it's it's a small lot you have perious coverage that's quite high and U one of the things I did and I didn't even need to do it uh when I built was I put in as a suggestion of council um
to to put and had a curious question why don't you knock the house down I guess the interior is all done yeah okay mean just seems like a lot of work
uh yeah but that's what we're doing okay that's all thank you thank you Mr pr appreciate that anyone else here from the public to speak on this application that would be a good time if not we'll close the and go straight to board comments go the same
order that we did questions no more comments okay based Pres two and a half story deck does that count towards ratio you have um you have a tough lot and a big a and you got a great team
um unfortunately I'm inclining to on the application just because of some of the ass and um particularly myself I don't like the third story balcony I don't like the fact that you bring the Gage into
and I think we can bring some coverage down the thank you Mr um really nothing else um I'm I I agree
with uh Mr Al about uh the asks I would still V gu I'm not comfortable with it so I don't know Mr yes as I said before I I wish when you went from the 32 and a half you got
to the 78 and didn't go over it I thought that would have been easy in your plans um I'm on the fence on this one I know it's only the only over 2% but it's where you came from that I'm
looking at you know if you came from uh you know 72 you went a little over you were already close but in in my mind you had the option to make it compliant at
78 um so I have a little uneasiness uh uh on the vote and uh for for myself uh I think I don't know who oh was Mr Presto commented it's very encouraging to see
um some of these homes on 12th Avenue uh starting uh people starting to make investments and and feeling now they could feel comfortable with with going ahead and you know spending this kind of money to try to improve uh that neighborhood because it is a section of town that has been somewhat uh neglected
compared to many of our other streets so um you know I I think uh I I I share some of the same concerns that my fellow board members have but definitely feel strongly that you know their minimal in nature and the positive criteria are
outweighs the negative criteria associated with something as as um small and I don't know what the square footage is of being out of compli to F from 78% to 80% um I I feel those benefits far
outweigh that that minor um negative factor so I would definitely be yes on this so that Mr keny before you uh you do this um it would probably be a good time for
you to confer and decide whether or not um you want to go to a vote or you want to make any um modifications I was just about to speak okay very good uh so may we have 30 seconds or minute to discuss it you
feels needed well we're going to decide okay so we were able to discuss uh with the applicants I made clear that I'm not an attorney uh but I understand obviously the process is here and we certainly hear that the D variance is a substantial concern which equates to
about 72 sare ft we calculated that if we shorten the house by about 18 in uh we would not only reduce the building covered but also eliminate the um and have an F that's compant 78% so if the board is
um willing we'd like to amend our application to eliminate the D variant we will have a 78% floor a ratio it'll be substantially similar what you see on the plan be about 18 in shorter um which will also reduce our building cover that didn't Kevin I apologize I didn't
calculate that yet but um you we we certainly understand that the larger all right so should this be approved um and again this is um maybe I don't know if the applicants are aware of this or not but typically if we approved you tonight
we as we did with the four that came today earlier at the beginning of this meeting we certified a month later right um many boards upon what you just described would say that's great come back with new plans and then we'll vote
then right like but but we're not going to do that to you this is approved it will be on the contingency that the revised plans with the correct corrected numbers will be submitted prior to us taking the vote in the April meeting
okay so you can meet that that deadline Mr alenko yes okay so with that you're withdrawing the request for the D variant because you're going to shrink the footprint sightly cor excellent okay Mr Kennedy if you were to please
um guys um summarize that the so if the application were to be approved standard normal conditions whatever that means would be compliance with all the promises commitments and representations the team made uh in tonight's hearing uh
we usually have a 24 month time frame between U uh when the resolution is adopted and getting building permits compliance with the port housing rules regulations contributions directives obtaining all outside approvals gring details being reviewed and approved by
the bur engineer um when we're uh before any c was issued we usually like the professional certification from the applic design team confirming that uh the improvements were constructed and installed in accordance with the approved plans in accordance with the
testimony in accordance with the resolution and okay um let's see we are going to confirmation that that West Side twoot
by 10 foot encroachment is to be removed confirmation that the East Side 22t by 10t encroachment is to be removed so it's allow for the parking um okay um we're going
to all right we're just GNA I just want to make a general note that there were some inconsistencies between architectural plans and other calculations so we'll just um Shore everything up so that it's all assistent um including the
f um obviously the home is going to be used as a single family home uh garage is not to be utilized for living space um by with the Burrows half floor or half story requirements um we talked about the
building coverage and F and other calculations being match up so we'll have those corrected and again um uh so the f is going to be a compliant 78% or not not exceeding 78% I guess and
then the building coverage is going to be what was proposed was 46.98 so it's going to be not to exceed that Joe uh correct I recalculated at 46.1% 46.1% uh building coverage okay
so and then uh the lot coverage is still staying at 77.5 that would also Reduce by 1% 76.9% 76. 59% um provides plans to eliminate the inconsistencies um Joe I think you at
one point said there was a sorry there in calculate or improper calculation on the plans is at 14.5 but something 13.5 what was that the front yard so we'll have that
corrected and then we had clarifying that the driveway uh pavers will be driveway papers and are you're removing some of the you callous stepping stones and the driveway
the driveway will be the correct semi perious papers 9t wide wide and you're going to comply with the height you're going to comply with all the fire sub code regulations for
Ingress um let's see we are going to um see driveway width will comply with regulations you fireproof the side of
the own uh the height of the garage is not changing although um because it's sagging a little it's the same pitch I think Mr said um so with the garage it's just going to be electric utility so to
speak and the um the shingles for the garage will appropriately compliment and match the home um and let's see we going to use uh Mr grg good faith efforts to utilize um
uh underground electrical service if you know that's that can happen and if the utility company so allows and UCC fire code compliance um the rear patio will be
and the garage the actual size of the garage is 217 squ foot correct okay and uh the scale of the western side driveway will be corrected and clarified if
necessary and um Mr chairman there was a comment I think about installation of underground dry Wells was that a um a m of uh was suggesting it but it's not a requirement of the board I don't think
it's a requirement of building code but it is a good idea okay and we stipulate we would uh pipe the drainage to the street so it doesn't you know there's something that has come up in the past and I'm not sure if your neighborhood has it remind does um they run underground Su pump
lines um where your Su pump connects to these underground lines that are between the curb and the sidewalk um you could identify there's there's an angle cut in the sidewalk that's about a 15° saw cut that they made right and certain neighborhoods
that had gotten repaid and I'm going back probably more than 20 years ago maybe even 30 years but but there's a facility to connect underground instead of instead of running it out to the curve and um for homes such as yours um
you could also uh connect instead of having as Mr Presto indicated building fr um to to collect that water and then um percolate down into the soil uh you could run them into
those your down spouts could run into the same line that your some pump runs into and then it go into the storm Source system underground all underground so you really should look into that um if if um because your lot
is so tight um then as an alternative if you don't have that facility in your uh going down your street instead of draining to the curve having your down spouts go into French drains that sit below the pavement um you know basically
it's just a big garbage P fill the St fill the stone with with holes in it and then the water will just dissipate and will not collect at your curb will not ice over will not bother your dors will not drain to the sord so um that's what
that comment was for but um I think that's all building code stuff I don't I don't think this is anything zoning boated I listed as a suggestion but but it is something that people aren't aware of that they can make conne our four our four down spouts go
into that that store system and then Mr chairman the few remaining conditions are they're going to revise the plans uh to shorten the home by 18 in Joe is that it the L correct the uh length of home
and you're going to reduce the building coverage as we just talked about you're going to reduce the floor area ratio so as to comply and you're going to have the revised plan submitted before the board's vote on this and you withdrawn
the application uh withdrawn the youth variance portion of the application Mr Kenny let me just correct it's not before our vote it's it's before the certification Sor ad of the resolution of resolution so uh Joe
before I ask this to the board members are these conditions okay with you and your client okay so Mr chairman I I defer to we're going to go the same order sting down onast com
we're we're voting motion to V sorry skip mross yes Mr yes Mr no Mr yes Mr L yes Mr O'Neal no Mr diio
yes congratulations thank you very much thank you thank you gentlemen thank you thank you I'm sure I'll be speaking to you you'll erase erase the line conratulations different flowers like
how are you Mary I'm well how are you good okay so our next application uh we're not River chairman as the applicant team comes forward we'll just do a couple of preliminary procedural things is there anyone here who had any questions comments or concerns regarding the
sufficiency of the notice all right the board secretary and I review the notice and found Mr keny I just want to correct myself this is Phil Philip Doran and [Music] my
okay so we'll just ask again is there anyone here any questions comments or concerns regarding the notice all right the board secretary and I reviewed everything and founded to be order so it be my humble opinion that we have jurisdiction to proceed tonight so what we'll do is for the second and
final time tonight we'll swear in Ted bian Ted you are our zoning officer and construction official do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide to provide would be the truth the best knowledge to help you guys thank you and what we will do is Market the record what we as a board
have before us A1 is a development application package dated December 23rd 2024 A2 is the minor land use zoning permit and that is dated November 19th
2024 November 21st 202 and then what ta sheet A3 is a copy of a tax sheet A4 is the uh burough of bmar
application checklist a five is a survey of property prepared by Morgan engineering and that's dated April 2024 and A6 is the architectural floor plans and
elevations prepared by Mary Hearn architect dated December 12 2024 consisting of five sheets April that I get everything okay uh you'll recall this is uh Jeff pman the applicant's attorney and I think you've seen this
architect at our building before but uh Jeff good evening um after you enter your just swear in your Witnesses and get that part going Jeffrey be the be law fir Mo brove New Jersey I represent the applicant Philip and M Dorian and
our Witnesses this evening will be M Dorian as well as Mary arit okay so we'll square them in uh so Mary if you could just uh state your name and business address Mary her
17b Main Street bmar and your licenses and certifications as AR are current and up to date any good standing they are okay and if you could say your name please sure M Dorian and just spell your first name please m a y t
e d o r i a n got it perfect if you could just both raise your right hand do you swear that the information and testimony you're about to provide will be the truth the best your knowledge to help you guide yes yes thank you and I believe we have four additional exhibits if we could just
Mark those sure uh A7 is what a photo board four photos of the project site and five photos of fencing and um
Landscaping um and taken by my office roughly when two months ago okay so uh it's your opinion that they're still relatively depictions of what exists yes okay and
A8 is a this architectural site plan identical to sheet one of five but colored Illustrated prepared by Mary Hearn and the date today March 27th 2025 so that's
A8 yes and A9 A9 is sheet five5 identical to sheet five of5 of our set except the elevations are colored all right and date
today got it3 so that's A9 correct and A10 A10 is an aerial photograph taken off the internet showing the subject property perfect thank you okay they're
marked I'm just going to give overview of the project and the application here so we're talking about 300 River Avenue Belmar loot 22 lot two it's in the r75 single family Zone um the applicant is proposing to demolish
the portion of the existing dwelling and add a more conforming addition to the existing single family dwelling on the undersized and irregular lot variances that are requir I'll do this slowly for you get uh we have a undersized lot are
4,980 ft where 7500 ft required we're proposing a building coverage of 4.26% 4026 where 30% is permitted we are proposing a rear yard
set back of 4.5 ft where zero feet exists and 40t is required right a side yard setback of 3 feet is proposed where 0.9 ft exists and
5 ft is required and uh AC units are located in a front yard where AC units are not permitted in a front yard with the exception that there is a discretion by the zoning officer to approve the
location of AC units in a front yard without really any standards as to how they on Corner L on a corner line on a corner line which is this is a corner line cor sure just before um we get going I'd like to make a correction on
our chart it's my fault this my just dyslexia popping up under principal structure one two three four five six items down side setback is actually the West not the East if you want to mark that for because you'll get confused
tesi okay and Jeff could I just uh just ask your client just three quick questions get the ball rolling go ahead forget uh so ma'am are you the owner of the property yes I'm sorry myself and okay and how
long have you owned it roughly we we purchased it may last year may of 2024 and there's a single family home at the site yes and do you live there no okay is it occupied or is it rented or no it cannot be
OCC thank you thanks thank you so uh briefly um you have hired Mary to be your architect correct correct um and we've asked her to prepare the plans and as a result of that
um can you just explain for the board you've owned it for less than a year you haven't occupied itre why so um my husband and I live in mon New Jersey um we um love the shore my husband grew
up in so we've been meaning to make it down here um so we've been looking for a home that we can spend part of year in as well as um there our kids are in college my daughter's State my son is getting ready to go to college so we
will be atemp Master home soon um the greatest the greatest I love it too so um so we're looking forward to um being a part of the
community um but the house currently is not safe or functional uh and what we want to do is upgrate the home to um you know have it fit the needs of our family um as well as retaining some of the
character of the home and and ultimately making it beautiful you know for the neighborhood that's I have you want to continue with Mary oh yeah presentation sure I'm going to offer up the photo
board and the aial so that you can I don't recall if we said it for the record or not but obviously we are offering Mary has an expert in field of architecture she's appeared before credentials yeah so I just want to make sure on the record we actually we accept her credentials she's considered an
expert um we're thinking about whether we should Contin that I'll tell you how old I am you're not older than the first applican garage I'm not older than I'm not older than Mr GR I know that nobody
is so Mary let's let's start first with the site and and what's proposed for the site itself before we get into the nitty-gritty of the the building and the dwelling so I've taken uh the liberty of coloring the cover sheet that we're
going to walk through in a moment and entered it into evidence um there are substantial trees in the right of way that we' like to keep we're at the corner of B and River Avenue so across the street is inl Terrace on a pretty unique lot in
that it's got a very acute angle at the front and it's shallow for the r75 Zone it's 50 ft wide but it's only 82 feet at the short
end and I I'm sorry to interrupt you just on a couple of drawing I see like l I missed when the line's cutting through the middle of the garage and I don't know if that's just an error in how how the line was drawn oh it's because of
the angle of the of the photo oh okay you see like the garage touch there but they don't technically okay it's just the angle of that off of the internet so you can see here on the on the map and North is up on this map
North is down on my site plan um we at the intersection of B and an inlet Terrace of course that's also called River Avenue the existing home sits southerly on the property and
Westerly on the property and if you've been by the home and I can show you the elevation it's got some uniqueness to it and that it has a very steep roof line as the feature the main feature of
the home we'd like to keep that and honor it so it's very steep as you look at it from B and then there's another portion perpendicular to it at the front of the home as seen from inl terasa River Avenue so this one's
higher and you can see the side of that but we're hoping to keep those in play off of them in in what we hope to add so the home has
um deferred maintenance it's difficult it's not welcoming the entrances are not welcoming it seems a bit dark although there are windows I think for the majority the rooms are very good size but there's no secondary or supporting
actors to help the closets are horrible the bathrooms are this big um the living room is good size the kitchen's good size the dining room's good size so we want to keep them we want to play off them we're trying to
support those with decent entry for the family a garage that actually Parks a car um porch that can let them live outside a little bit there's no backyard here again we're tight to the South and
tight to the west and we have all front yard no back yard at all um so I'm going to walk you through the plans but in general and then on the second floor in general the existing conditions three bedrooms great size every closet is cut off by the steepness of that roof you
can't fit a hanger in any closet upstairs and the bathrooms up there are really small also so the Hope was we didn't know how to do it we didn't know whether we're going to go up or out yet when we met but the Hope was to gain one bedroom
room overall and gain those little support rooms where they made sense so that they can live here uh proudly and and in today's world not yesterday's world the I think the existing half bath is two 30 in by 30 in and it opens again
half it's 30 in by 30 in and it opens right into the kitchen and that's on the Flames so that was fun um so you know we do what we can in honoring what's great about the house
and adding to it the existing home is existing Flor area gross livable is 271 on two floors we're not adding up we're proposing to add second floor space and a little bit
of first floor space um in the end if we're approved we'll be 2800 we're going from almost 2100 to 2800 on two floors again um we would
love to remove the garage that's at the back of the property if you look at the um front the cover sheet you'll see it the existing site plans on the left and then the proposed in the middle there's
this one story garage that's attached by way of a little room um here that we'd like to take down we'd like to build a twostory new garage with and expand the second floor over it
so that we have another that fourth bedroom can fit over it here um sorry create a new twostory attached or D well the garage is a new twostory edition first floor is garage second floor is better thank you
y and attach attach and existing is attach yep got and then at the at the front of the home we're hoping to put an addition on at the front on the second floor over a new covered porch to House
of the master bath and master closet there's an existing family room I'm referring to A9 on the right here on the first floor with a large bedroom above it we'd like to keep those right now there's a covered porch with a roof over
that porch That's there we'd like to take that roof off and make it a balcony and then if we're granted approval into a new family entry just a very small little covered porch here to come in and and come in the house that
way so there's nothing that is very inviting on how you enter the house from the driveway where you would park it's it's it's very tight it's very dark you can't tell the door is there until you're added and we'd like to make that
a little prettier and more welcoming um so I can walk through the chart or I can walk through the floor plans Which floor plans first uh let's yeah let's walk through let's walk through the
chart I think for this application walk so on the cover sheet um our lot area as Jeff uh iterated is 4,980 square ft we're in the r 75 Zone where 7500 is required so we're about 2/3 the
size of the required lot plot Frontage um we have 60.5 ft because it's on a skew we get the benefit of that we're 50 FTS required building coverage we exist today at
33.3% we're asking for 4.26% so a 7% increase 30% maximum allowed the impervious coverage today is at 54% if we're approved with everything
we're promoting we can reduce that to 48% and 55% is allowed so we're already compliant just right under it and we can make that better um we'll talk about the site but there are there's a lot of concrete on the site we'd like to take a
lot of that up floor area ratio exists today at 39% we're proposing 52.5% we're allowed 75% so we're well under that allow threshold I think I
calculated it if if we push that 75% we would be able to build a 3 3,700 square foot home and again we're proposing a 2800 foot home so we're 900
square ft less than the F would allow um onsite parking there are three spaces today we are proposing three spaces again and three spaces are required for the four bedrooms principal structure front set back to the house on River
Avenue um it's 20.7 ft proposed and existing 20 is required front step back to the porch 13 proposed and existing 12 FTS required so we're good on both of those front set back the house on B
Street uh the existing is at 10.7 FT uh we're proposing to keep that 10.7 ft but anything that we're adding is back at 13.5 ft we're 13.2 fet is the average so
we don't need a front yard setback for that front yard setback to the porch on B Street existing is 25.3 Ft the proposed is at 13.4 4 ft uh the required
at 5.2 ft and that is on the cover sheet show because it sounds like a big addition but this is the covered porch today I'm sorry Mary where is that correction you said on your uh earlier
yeah it's to side set back East is techn is side set back West so it should say side set back West right so I'm referring to A8 which again is your cover sheet this gray area here on the Westerly side of the front of the
home is an existing covered porch we're proposing adding covered porch east of that and so that now is measured off of river that's why it seems so much closer mer while we're talking about that just just so we're clear in the plans that
the board has it almost appears as that whole front area including the existing covered porch has an addition right let's let's clarify with the existing torch area there's a change but it's really not an addition right so so to Jeff's Point
here what's colored in the darker pink is a proposed second floor addition over a covered porch addition here is an existing covered porch that has a roof over it and what we're proposing there is to take the roof off of it and put a
railing on it and door out of that window changing a covered porch with a roof s roof to a covered porch with a flat balcony and Rail and maybe if you just pull up the rendering y just so we can see I'm say again change a covered P
with a f Ro to covered PCH with a flat roof and a railing thank you so on the on the bottom right of this um the rendering here right so this is A9 but it's sheet 505 it's your last sheet on the bottom where it says existing North
or front elevation this is that covered porch there's a roof line here under windows out of that bedroom what we're proposing is a flat roof with a railing and then put a door where those windows are so so that this bedroom has access
to that b so the mass of the uh roof line goes away right so the solidness goes away on the covered porch but the mass on the roof line that doesn't come towards the front right that doesn't towards the road over over the porch over the no no no right this roof line
this a roof line stays right where it is it does not grow forward correct so there's no extension of the living area to the front in that uh area that violates the setback correct and that is
shown on the other elevation sheet if you want to look at that West Side you can see that it stays right in place which is she six five five yeah so if you look at five of five
all the way to the left the bottom is existing wests side elevation you see that what what Mr be's referring to is that this doesn't get any closer to the street this twostory portion that exists okay
so the point that we we wanted to make Bo understood Mary is is that we're actually creating a a a more visual era because we're reducing that fish roof correct so if you look at the cover sheet again Andor this sheet which are
identical but for coloring this pink outline is the buildable envelope on the property so that represents the required setbacks on the property and so Mr be talking about what we do along this side
of the house or over that porch affects that setback so we feel we're not negatively affecting the step back at all here where that porch is which could could affect the neighbors open and openness and
light so um so we'll continue on the chart yes because we were talking about the front set back to the porch on B Street and that's greater now uh because it now is coming across the entirety of the front of the hall the north
facade um rear St back to the South again we're in the r75 zone in the r75 zone we're expected to be 150 ft deep and the required rear setback is 40 today the attached garage sits on the
property plan so we're hoping to take that down and move it 4.5 ft in so that we we have enough room for a 2T planting bed and a 30in walkway um so we're at 4.5 ft that offers me a parkable garage
if we're allowed to rebuild the garage there um and the Zone requires oh I'm sorry so requires 40t right uh the side set back to the West again I have it marked the East um the existing is
0.9t and that's to the garage right now so if we're able to take the garage down and rebuild it we'd like to pull it in flush with the house at 3 ft so we'd be making that better by 2.1 ft and but 5 ft's required so we still would need a
bearings to build it there if it were detached it would be allowed at 3 ft but we're promoting to attach it so that we can build a bedroom over it in the hope of keeping our footprint down as much as possible because we are a building
coverage baring and um and bringing it to 3 ft allows the continuation of that steep roof line to to carry as we add to the South if if if you uh pull it to the
east to conform with the 5 feet what is your opinion as to how that affects the existing roof line well there would be a severe jog in the roof line and it would still happen only 2 feet away leaving the body of the house at 3 ft it didn't
seem like the benefit was worth uh pushing the garage further to the east because we're going to get a little tight in parking forward of the garage to the east if we do that and um if you could just while we're talking about
that describe what is on the neighbor's property according to the survey oh there's a drive the neighbor to the west and I believe the hello here she's present today there's a driveway and you can see that on the site plan that we drew um immediately to our West um at
the front it touches our property line in the back is maybe a foot off of our property line so there is some distance to their house because the driveway is there and their garage at the back of their driveway is beyond our property
just you can see it on the drawing so the front of their garage is in line almost with our southerly property um and pulling that uh extra two feet will will be a huge help huge help for
the drive well it'll be a huge help just for the dorans to be able to maintain it number one and build the the um foundation for it but yeah it'll it'll make that much more open on the ground level yeah um then to continue because we were
on S set back West Building height the existing buildings at 31 ft that's to this Peak now here and what we're adding again if approved would be this is here already
this is here already but we would be extending that and that's at 279 in we're 35's allowed so the highest points at 31 we would be building at 27.9 on the highest thing that we would
be adding so that's compant number of stories there's two stories there now we'd be two stories in the end and two and a half are allowed the driveway distance to the property line today on that southernly side you can
see it on the left the driveway is right on the property line to the South we would pull that off a foot to bring that compliant and then the AC units distance to the property line we are 7.2 ft where
5 ft's required so that's compant however we don't have any room on the south or the West which are our rear and side yard on a corner to put the AC unit so we're proposing they go forward of the house on B Street and um as Jeff
iterated before there have been instances where that's allowed on a corner um we feel that's the secondary front not the primary front and what we hope to do is put a fence around that side yard and I've shown it on the plan
so that we can get a hedro in flowers to grow it's why there's so many pictures of flowers on the photo board it's literally our intent so that you won't see those AC units at all and I told the Dorian since they're new to Belmar that there's a lovely landscaper that lives
directly across the street on be Street who probably would be happy to do your landscaping for you so um so those AC units the placement of them in a front yard would require a variance we believe so that's the chart I I'd love to just
walk quickly through the plan unless you want me a couple real questions we de the AC so thank you um the U proposed surface of the driveway material semi perious papers and that's called out on the plan it's one of the ways we get to reduce the lot coverage if you look at
the existing um site plan on the left there's a lot of con it's not attractive there's a a lot of concrete in front of the garage in front of the house on that southerly side also there are these very gracious lovely concrete walks all over
the front yard that we'd love to get rid of so the Dorian don't live there yet but they're well aware that people walk right over the point of their lawn constantly and we feel if we can put some kind of Border number one remove
those two walks and put in one that's a little windy as we've proposed so not inviting to people walking over the property but if we could put a hedge R Andor low picket fence I think that make you very happy and give you some privacy
again we have no backyard so it' be a really nice front yard to get to use and and remove that Park like public park like setting there and the idea of the walkway is also to invite people to see
the River Avenue view as the front well I have a walkway on the other side you do off the TR we like a walkway to any front door of course I mean visitors will park on on River Avenue if B Street's full of course and you want to
way to your front door sure inviting way yeah all right do you have other so I I don't want to take your whole night but if you look at the second page you'll see the
in the middle the existing first floor plan and the existing second floor plan the garage at the back uh correctly from wrong Ted I need 19 ft per parking space depth 19 20 20 all right so the garage
is 188 so technically I don't have parking in that garage the doors are narrow um but we hope to take that down you can see the kitchen living dining and the three bedrooms are good size but those closets look like they're big but
the roof literally chops them out and the bathrooms are minuscule so I'm a big person I'm a good test to those things um and then if you jump to the next page you'll see what we're proposing so keep the living room keep
the kitchen keep the dining room but try to open them up as best we can to each other we've added an entrance off the E side which is the left side of the drawing on very small covered porch a bedroom the half bath off that a
connection between the house in the garage which we don't have today today you have to go outside to go into the garage it's not fun A Little Pantry that everybody would want and an outside shower tucked under the back of the garage in the same footprint that we've
proposed and then there's an existing covered porch forward of the living room we'd like to add a covered porch to the left or east of that off of the front door so that there's some outside space on the SEC go ahead and so that covered
porch when you were talking about the shaded areas the the extension of the covered porch on the first floor is completely open correct right as a roof above it um has has an addition above it has an addition above it and um that
area conforms to all the setback corre correct yes and then if you jump to the second for you can see that um we've kept the two larger bedrooms changed them slightly added a master bath primary
sorry bath and walking and closets at the front and in addition changed the two PA baths to one bath so it's large enough and then created a smaller bedroom toward the South so that we could walk through with the hallway to a new bedroom at the South add a laundry
closet a Nook for a desk and then another bath to serve those back to bedrooms no third floor no half story um there is an existing basement we don't like going down there it's nasty um but we would only be
reinforcing that as may need to happen um the garage itself would be on a slab so no extension of the basement but we'll keep the stair down there the utilities are down there there'll be a secondary laundry if you want to keep it
um but no living space down there so Mary as far as existing versus proposed conditions there currently how many bedrooms three and we're going to how many four um and as far as existing conditions based upon the garage I think
you show three parking spaces but if the garage doesn't have the right dep how many parking spaces do we actually have existing well I counted both of them you know we've had this debate before that if you can actually pull a car in it I
think you were even contemplating maybe changing the ordinance or not recently right if you can physically pull so I've counted both of them okay and and then the one in the driveway and the current the proposed driver will accomodate two vehicles two
vehicles and then there's plenty of room for one in the garage I think confusion could you just restate what you said because I think I caught it but I I want to make sure we all did so regarding the parking you do not need a parking variance based on what you just said but I'd like you to
repeat it we don't we don't need a parking variance but I claim the two slightly undersized spots in the garage as if we had them already so I put that we have three we'll continue to have three though now one in the garage two
in the driveway so we're compliant almost today we will absolutely be compliant if approved yeah so so just to be clear again right now you have one outside parking space and you have two that
you've identified in the garage correct however the garage is in 20 ft deep no it's 18.8 in but we're going to have a slightly oversized garage that will will accommodate one car and two cars in the
driveway correct I certainly don't think it's an issue right and so please when I ask this question but I just want to make sure can we just say the two is now one or doesn't the 20 ft have to be continuous length like I don't
understand if if if it's a two car garage and it's short so we say well we're just going to put one car in there is there compliant for at least one car no sure counted it as two well propos were definitely long enough okay I made it
deeper okay all right very Gooding yeah we're conforming in the we've got we've got room for surf boards and bicycles and all of that okay got you okay so so one one compliant in the garage two compliant outside of the garage corre
right anything further that questions I I don't have any other questions so with that we are going to go to board questions and we going to start on the west side this appliation uh couple of questions uh
about the garage it's it's great you're taking and down repositioning it um are you changing the curve cut so the curve cut exists yes we're widening it can you see that on the
drawing so the drawing on the left is the existing cut I get you dition so right now the curve cut is shared with the neighbor to the South so I don't actually have the drawing of the southernly portion of it
but right now from our property line to the norly edge of the existing curb cut is 11t and what we're proposing is 19 and then it's bigger because it
attaches to the curve cut is one and the same with the neighbor oh so the 19 includes both no that's beyond both the 11 and the 19 the 19's from the property line from our property line that we share can you see that on
the on the top of the survey there you want I'm happy to come no no don't worry about it you brought it to the edge of the drive correct so that we can so do we have a t problem
cut supposed to be 12 yeah that's where I was going is it 12 when the cars are forward to the garage uh still 12 yeah so if if approved then we would need to make that a variance would yeah
we would have to amend the application to include that as a variance could you just cover what if 12's permitted and you're seeking 19 and what's current 11 but I with the caveat that that's the only the portion of it that's
forward of our property because it is longer by way of it is combined with the neighbor to the South you're not losing any parking spaces said that two driveways and and we can put on the record we're not
existing like that any on I mean that's that's shared driveway yeah it's a shared apron let's say yeah this would just be a shared apron correct Mary because we're we're pulling the driveway oh yeah we're separating the driveway further they're already separated by um approximately two feet
on the neighbor's property and then we're going to add one more two driveways next to each other I I I think the 12 foot variance is is a little contradictory but but but we'd be seeking 19 on our side of the property line okay I I think I would
advise that's a good cat um I would advise that you add the cve cut to the V list anything else Mr no I was just uh looking at the the AC units was trying to figure out a place to stash them so
they're going to be here if approved right here that's why I do that pretty fence edro I don't want to see it either so but I have to say you're very brave for buying that hat I've been in it we've
been in it it needs it needs some some love yeah especially that kitchen area that the dining room with that what would you call it it's it's not even a hallway suppos to be yeah without the butler without the butler uh that's all
I have for now yeah no I pretty much understand what you're trying to do here so I don't a little bit the only comment is the AC's there is nothing on the other on the short sides that we thought about possibly
putting them on the roof on the west side but we thought that was much worse for The Neighbor on and she's here so I'm glad I can say it but we don't think that's a good solution where it is and Shrubbery
Andor uh the allowable 3ot front yard fence that's what it is then and all the flowers that you we hope to do a weird shap I two other questions were already
asked which is great so um Mary the there is a shower in the northern back corner the property correct it tuck under under there the
and you're proposing going car garage correct and room for they have kids so surf boards bikes and all those things so you can um so in other words only one car is going to go in the garage so then you can fit one because the dimension from the face of the garage door to the
shower area essentially would be less than 20t well no we're going to have 22 ft because we've got room between shower and the pantry to pull a car in you got 22 ft there oh yeah that's 10 ft wide
10' 9 in wi yeah that Dimension if you could just clarify how you did your dimension so the 22 in in the new garage so I'm looking at proposed first floor plan on sheet three and five the garage Dimension 22 by 10 foot 9 in is from the
back of the front wall to the back of the very rear wall and between the the shower and Pantry so the garage is bigger three of five three of five in the middle is the proposed FL plan 10 n is the smallest is that small correct
the bay between the exterior shower and the Pam tree and just for the record then at its widest the garage is interior Dimension is 15t 6
in so we're able to a fridge there and possibly a shower um a washer dryer the door doesn't hit the car it works pretty nicely yeah this is just a question not a not a suggestion obviously we all know you're the
architect but can we can we eliminate the AC condensers by doing something similar the garage there like with the so that wall on the back is only 3T off the neighbor's property
okay so to be 5T we have to come in further than I would legally have 20 ft you understand what I'm saying them under where the shower area is oh that shower's on the ground am I missing something here The
Walkway goes down you're make a right hand turn you're going to open into a shower area I'm saying make that area Lar to the AC condensers but that wouldn't make sense because then they would disturb theed well and the neighbor they'd be right up tight it's a
garage right next it is a garage yeah no further questions Mr the AC un are you going to Shrub around that absolutely we don't want to see them any more than we want the neighbors to see them and and for the record we're not in
a flood zone so they don't need to be off the ground I think every cover that Mr Ross yeah I'm not opposed to the idea but I do want to just make sure I understood because I thought I heard you say that the increase in the width of
the driveway was not going to impact any parking on street but I saw there a parking spot here to the that side so we'll go s foot into that into that right I'm sure there's room to the corner oh yeah I'm not saying the whole
space like I just want to make sure we corrected The Testament because I do think it'll go s foot into the it will yeah yeah I thought I heard it would else Mr R no Brazil
only driveway it's because two cars are going to be like this versus so one car is going to fit in the garage right and then a car behind it and they didn't want to have to move both of them to get the car out but would they fit oh yeah
all three yep okay all three would fit one two three no one no the two in the driveway are side by side would they fit one in front of the other no I don't we don't have the depth we only have 23.7 ft okay and we
would need 40 ft I feel your pain Verona down here and I'm on the corner 18 with everything not where I wanted so if you can get this and um I'm sure I'm sure the answer
will be yes but I have to ask the question I I see the wires going overhead I would assume going have those if at all possible yes we that in the home and try to make it pretty and then still
have have every house that I don't have any further questions so with that I'll open up to the public uh anyone here to speak on this application questions end or comments please step up state your
name Mr keny take your name and address s you in Riv how you spell C CCA c e CCA all right good evening and welcome to the B Mar Board of adjustment do you swear that the information and testimony
you're about to provide to the extent you provide I will be the truth the best your knowledge to help you guide thank you so I am right next door to RJ's old house um and I have to say I'm thrilled I when I see how beautiful it's going to
look it makes me very happy because it's been a very sad house for a very long time and what I specifically like is that you kept the style of you know the old versus the new because you know we have a lot of these Big B Mansions going up right now on Inland Terrace as much as
they are beautiful I love the old charm and I'm so glad that you were able to capture that in the new drawing so congratulations I'm very happy to have you as my neighbor amen thank you thank you anyone else here from the public no
so we'll close the public session and then we'll open up the board comments and we'll go in the same sequence I have no uh further comments uh I'm in favor going forward you have no comments I do like the design I like
that you add it on to the existing I always actually enjoyed looking at I'm just G to say the same thing as Mr just said so I'm familiar with the home I T it in multiple occasions it's you got a great architect that saved the
great house there um it's been to look beautiful and I'd like to note that you are restricted there I in favor of the application and I do have a couple questions are you keeping those purple sinks and pink tiles they should go to a museum some
yeah maybe it's vintage right everything back I don't think that's com back no I don't think so I am in favor of this application so that Mr Kennedy sure how much Su sure uh so if the applications approved the standard conditions would
be compliance with all PR representations the team made compliance with any and all outside approvals 24 month time frame within which after the resolution adop get building permits before any extension compliance with all affordable housing rules regulations
direct F compliance with the building construction code regulations uh we usually require a professional certification when is completed uh for the design confirm that the uh improvements have been installed in accord with the approv plans and Accord with the testimony and inance with the
resolution draining and drain details to be reviewed appr by the B engineer unless he or she weighs them um we going to professionally or perpetually maintain that Landscaping since it particular about shielding the um non
compliant front yard um air conditioning condensing system we're going to change uh Mary's chart with that East West designation um we are going to um let's see
um preserve as many 15th efforts to preserve as many trees as possible compliance with any tree preservation ordinance the bur has um all right now Mary I mean I wrote down here you're removing lots of concrete but that's already on the plant right okay
and we have again shielding the air conditioning semi per papers for the driveway that's on the pl uh basically you're just the basement is not really utilized SP just reinfor said only if necessary we're not adding a floor so
there may be very little to that and then we had um Tony you were suggesting maybe relocating stri you got that that's out uh good faith effort to put the
utilities underground if the utility company allows and it's feasable and we just usually say us but the result of those good P effs are so I think that was it so Jeff excuse me
curve variance for the curve cut thank you of 19 ft in front of our property 12 ft um perut so we're going to amend the application uh so Jeff before we turn it over to the board members are you and
your clients okay and of course other other standard conditions but those on are you okay with those yes all right Senator chairman I defer to you okay some make a motion to approve I'll make that motion
I'll Mr R yes Mr G yes Mr yes oal you want these yes you want me to take a picture of them El congratulations good luck with your product a lot of ner
house do you want to take a picture of this she's going to keep them and the motion will be your in