--------- the last five years. So, we'll be monitoring that, working with our delegation closely to make sure that we maintain our positive positioning and uh looking forward to seeing the next step. Once we make the markup in the house, we'll be headed to the House floor where
we patiently or impatiently wait, however you want to look at it, for the House to uh take up that bill. It's typically one of the last bills that they take up. Um, traditionally, you know, this the budget bills need to be completed before the end of the fiscal year, September 30th. However, in my 20
plus years of being in Washington DC, that has never happened. We typically have what they call continuing resolution and we bleed into the latter part of the year. This budget bill will need to be concluded before the end of the calendar year. That is when Congress concludes and so we look forward to that
being done before December 31st. I'm going to pause at that to take any questions that uh the Mr. Chair or the board of commissioners may have for me at this time. >> Commissioner Gapinsky, you have anything? >> Um Megan, I I do apologize. I forgot to
put you on a couple emails to um Emmer's office yesterday and Smith and Clolobashar. So, I'll forward those over to you, but we are um uh I'm not sure if you are aware, but we did have another fatal on uh County Road One over the weekend. So,
>> yes, I heard that news. And I'm so sorry to hear that. And I was forwarded that that communication, Commissioner, and I thought you did a lovely job in expressing um not only the gratitude for the support, but also uh the tragedy that occurred. >> Okay. >> My condolences to the family and the
community that that's occurred again. >> No, other than that, I think uh between the state and federal, I I don't know >> how we could have hit a bigger home run. So, >> yeah. >> Yeah, it feels like a nice grand slam. We've also got obviously the pending announcements for the the you the US
build grants, the competitive grants that the Department of Transportation will be announcing. Um it looks like sometime in in June. So I don't have an official date for that or it's kind of a moving target, but I think it'll be um maybe the second or third week in June that that will be announced. So we're on
pins and needles to hear about that news as well. So, I mean, we were told, you know, we were we were Congressman Emmer's number one choice for um our project and as well as we had some Senate um communication um to Secretary Duffy to help support it, too. So,
bipartisan effort all around tremendous advocacy and and really kudos to the board for you guys all stepping up and um having just some great outcomes this year. Yeah. >> So, uh, the question I have, Megan, is should we just sit and wait on our pins
and needles or do we make another trip out there to DC or or could we I'm sorry. Or could we just wait until the transportation alliance? >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, that's a great question. So, we I don't think another trip to DC
is necessary prior to the transportation alliance. I do want to express that that is that is an incredibly important um you know meeting to come out forward. It's time timely. Um it's really the setup for future years um and laying the groundwork and obviously you know saying
the thank yous and and keeping up the good work for the project. But but no, quite frankly, the work that is already done between um you know, Benton County coming out solo as well as um you know, coming out with the APO, I think we're set up to have some really great
outcomes. I know we're set up to have great outcomes. So if if all things go smoothly, which in DC you never quite know, but we couldn't have have better lineup right now as far as our amount that we requested the our support from
both the House and the Senate. And um now it's just kind of in in the larger hands of um you know, will Congress get their work done? Will they keep projects in? All that kind of things. Like I don't think another trip out here would change the outcome of that. And you know, I want to be cognizant of of
county resources and your time. >> Thank you. >> And uh Megan uh Taylor um from Emmer's office. Uh we went back and forth on a few more emails yesterday, late in the day, and uh um I did ask her about when
that build grant may be um awarded or when we find out if we make it to the next round because I think in other years we were already told that >> we didn't get it >> earlier. Yeah. Jun Megan, didn't you just say that it was going to be awarded
or let us be no the second? But there's multiple there's multiple levels that you go. So you keep advancing and I think at other years we were already told that we didn't advance. >> Right. >> So >> yes. So that's correct. And typically
it's um you know like I said about the second week of June where those build grants are announced and the winners uh the recipients of those grants are announced. Um, and we would find out maybe a day ahead of time, the members of of the delegation find out and then they make the calls. But yes, the ones
that have not made it to the further rounds, I believe, have already been notified. >> Okay. >> Because we had to realize that um, you know, the the actual budget was received pretty late to Department of Transportation. So, well, not pretty, it was just later than they had expected
um, the president's budget. So, things are things are a bit more delayed. So, we're hoping that it'll still be around that second second potentially third week of June, but I would say most likely before the Fourth of July um break. >> In that last email to Taylor, I
basically kind of led her down that yellow brick road basically saying we haven't heard anything bad or good, which I'm thinking is good. But I said I said in our debriefs the last how many years they've always said that when it gets close they call you with more
detailed questions on the project and everything like that. So I said we haven't heard anything there yet. So I was kind of hoping that maybe she could take that and maybe make a few more calls. >> All right. Well, I will follow up with her on that. And I did want to um I I forgot this in my initial kind of
debrief with you all is that I was able to see um with Emmer last night um and gave him our thanks once again for his support for our project and you know he's really excited about about having um you know you guys in the queue and so
just wanted to kind of offer that that I let him know that we I was going to be chatting with you all and expressing our gratitude for his support. >> Great. Great. Thank you very much. >> Thank you Megan. Thank you very much for what you're doing doing for us in DC. >> Absolutely. It is a pleasure representing Benton County. Um really
excited about our outcomes. And now I'm going to pass the baton to my to my friend my friend friend in efforts over here. Grady Horn uh from LHPA from the from the state legislature hot off a very challenging and exhausting session
that my colleagues experienced. >> Thanks. >> Thanks Megan. >> Good morning Grady. >> Thank thank you. Good morning, Mr. Chair and commissioners. Um, thank you for inviting us to join you today. Um, I have my colleague Jess Toau on as well,
who many of you have met throughout your multiple visits to the capital session. Um, and first of all, I wanted to congratulate you and and thank you all for your engagement, you know, all the way from the from uh the beginning of
session and prior um leading up to the last minutes of session when they adjourned at midnight on Sunday. Um I think uh that was critical to getting this done for the county. Um so I'll just do a quick overview of um kind of
how the session played out. Um we'll be sending a further detailed report um once we have some time to analyze all the the the meat uh and potatoes to the the efforts. Um but what we did just finish is probably one of the most many
lobbyists are saying one of the most difficult and politically divided bieniums ever. Um it was a 6767 tied house and a one seat majority in the Senate uh for the
Democrats. So it required um bipartisan negotiations. Anything as the speaker said yesterday, anything that passed off the floor required bipartisan support. Um and all with that being said, every
legislature is up for reelection in November. um we're facing uh yesterday we listened to about 42 retirement speeches on the House and Senate floor. Um so it was a very political um year
and challenging. Um but despite low expectations for getting stuff across the line, major agreements were reached. Um and it was a very successful year. So with that, I'll dive into the bonding. Um this was the second year of the
bienium an odd year so it's primarily bonding focused um local priorities end of session negotiations are are a you know a big part of that um and some small policy wins across the finish line
um but legislators were also politically positioning themselves before the election so next year and we'll get into more strategy on that um but that is um where we'll have to pass the two-year budget. Um, and we'll see uh
transportation uh bills as well. So, this year we did not pass a transportation budget. It all was funneled into the um with that being said, um the state passed a $1.2 billion bonding package. There were
approximately $7 billion in bonding requests received and I think one in seven projects were funded in the bonding bill. So, it was very competitive. Um, overall it was $420 million in water infrastructure um
statewide updates for um water treatment and and aging water infrastructure projects and 177 million for roads and bridges. Um and with that, uh Benton County secured $3 million in general
obligation bonds for Highway One. Um, as I mentioned, um, due to this the strong competition statewide for these projects, our projects really stood out and and thank you to the the board um,
for your advocacy in pushing this as a a public safety concern, traffic congestion, um, school area impacts, and a regional transportation significance. Um, I think all of that in our messaging and conversations really helped to
secure this project. Um, and and also wanted to um thank our legislative delegation who you've met with all along um have who have been our best advocates at the legislature all the way up until the very end.
Additionally, um some of the items that were passed and we'll get into a little bit more details later, but they were able to pass um the HCMC stabil stabilization um which will help for um securing the statewide trauma safety net hospital 205
million for immediate stabilization funding and a $500 million reserve account. Um fraud was a big issue that was discussed. They created a new office of the inspector general, expanded fraud enforcement authority, um are looking at
Medicaid fraud repayment requirements, um and county state technology modernization investments. Um there was some property tax and affordability relief that was also implemented. Um 125 million in the homestead property tax
relief. Um vehicle tab license tab relief. uh $250 million in statewide tab relief um rolling back rates uh to pre2023 rates uh beginning effectively January 1st,
2027. So with that on a a $25,000 vehicle, you can expect about a $72 savings on your tabs. Um $40, $110 savings on your tabs. um consumer protection. Um they did some
work on prediction markets. Um AI, deep fake protections and HOA reform measures. And of course uh school safety and gun policy was a big item that was focused and uh as you saw towards the
end of session that kind of became a political football. Um they were able to get some additional school safety funding passed. U mental health and threat assessment investments. The Senate did pass an additional gun legislation, but many of those proposals
stalled in the House. Um and that's an example of the divided government impacting outcomes. Overall, um the bipartisanship was a big focus. uh major deals including bonding were negotiated all the way up until the
very end of session and um this legislature was able to deliver major statewide agreements um despite the difficult environment. Um so with that uh congratulations uh the the
$3 million will as a small chuck towards addressing um the most recent um difficult situation you're facing with and tragedy and loss on Highway One. So um we will keep going and keep working hard to try and go after more so that we
can fully fund it. But with that, I appreciate um the board uh for all of your engagement and help. And uh I will be sending some details on a client appreciation event we'll be having on June 17th um to your emails.
With that, I'll open it up for any questions. >> Thank you, Grady and Jess, for everything you guys have done. And I what what I will say is that Commissioner Gapinsky and myself are on our phone the last four or five hours trying to push legislators to make sure that we could, you know, assist and get
this funding and that greatly appreciated. >> Mr. Commissioner, sorry Johnson, >> he was up. Nope. All right. >> Commissioner Johnson. >> Uh Grady, just quick question. When I saw the quick review, it looked like there was only approximately six counties statewide that received any type of bonding money.
>> Yeah. >> Is that correct? And a majority of those counties were large counties. Anoka, Washington, Dakota. >> Yeah. Cook >> I think Sterns received >> Cook County. I see a million bucks. >> It was very very competitive this year
and um I think one of the things that the chairs of the bonding committee were saying um was that in the '9s there was a they thought the largest bonding bill ever was $1.2 2 billion and today that would cost over $2 billion.
So there's been discussions about how the state can focus on sending more um local dollars back to the counties um for these projects. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner Pinsky. >> Um I just want to say thanks to staff,
thanks to this board, uh more importantly, thanks to Grady and Megan and Jess and your teams u both at the state and federal level. It takes a a lot of people to move this and it's constant. I mean, you get called, you know, with a day's notice to get down to
the capital to do something and we've all been pretty much, you know, we figure out who's going. >> You know, if we can have multiple go, we go and and uh it it it's uh it the hard work is paying off is what I'll say. >> Can point it is a very large team
effort. It's a unbelievable team and I mean you look at even just the stuff on the background before all the stuff even got going. What Amanda did >> Mhm. >> from BEP. I mean just doing a lot of the the leg work on the front side. Uh Beth, you helping put together those books 3
four years ago which which Anna still says are a big reason why we're getting it. I mean, we had to you you took the brunt of going out and getting those letters of recommendation this year again. So, I I just I I give kudos to
everybody because if this all I don't want to j I'm not going to give a dollar amount. I don't want to jinx anything, but it is substantial and I can I I don't know that many counties are accomplishing what we just potentially accomplished in the last three, four years.
>> Yeah, and that's very good point. Commissioner Gapinsky took everybody, you know, even our previous engineer too. >> Yep. >> You know, county engineer, Commissioner Benoy. >> Um, I just I'm I want to piggyback off of what Jared said. Adam did an amazing
job with the video >> over in our te tech or our um engineering department. And I think that helped. Um, Monty had the the iPad down there and and they were able to watch the video and it sometimes seeing it
live that road and and where the impacts are um opens eyes more than a pamphlet or a handout >> and Adam spent some time making that short video. We have to also give a kudos out to the superintendent Brad Bertstrom
>> because he was with us majority of the time testified with us everything and that was another good selling point for the school too. >> M Mr. Chair in >> to tap on to your comment a little bit. Um I it was interesting to hear some of
those uh senators and house members go, "Oh yeah, I remember that." Off the bonding tour, saw the video. Yeah. >> They'd say, "Oh, yes. I remember that when we were on the bonding tour." >> Yeah. >> So it was a very good highlight. >> I I thought so, too. >> Yeah. >> Kudos.
>> And And we we I don't want the public think we're just patting everybody's back here, but it literally has taken years to get to this point. Mhm. >> And and we finally are close to achieving something. Even even Sheriff
Heck, I mean, I know what from being on the fire department what HIPPA is and everything like that, but um you never ever ever want to to basically politicize a a fatality, >> right? >> But it just it it is absolutely weird.
The earlier one this year was a was on this side of my house. >> The other one was on this side. And I was a quarter they were a/4 mile apart and I'm dead center in almost eye distance from both of them. >> And I I talked with Sheriff Hack. I said
I'm like I we're texting. I said I know you can't give me any details but is it a confirmed you know fatality? I said there's no uh articles on it or nothing like that that I can send down. And it was right. It was Sunday morning we're doing this. And I'm like, I needed something because I
already told them on Saturday that it's potentially a fatality again. And that that was big down um some news down in the the state area and and he confirmed it was a fatal. >> So, Mr. Chair, I think it was really
prudent that this board seen fit to hire Grady. I don't I don't believe that you could do all the things you want, but if you don't have somebody on the ground down there, you don't get it. >> And that goes equally to Megan. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Absolutely. >> No doubt. >> Anything else? >> No.
>> Okay. Thanks, Grady. Thanks, Jess. >> Thank you guys. >> Appreciate everything, Jess. Megan, thank you. >> Thanks, everyone. Yep. >> Thank you. Have a good day. >> Okay. Government Center Project. >> Yes. Jim Oman is here. He actually got has the next two items. You've got that and then the low voltage bid,
>> correct? >> Yeah. Great. >> Morning, commissioners. >> Good morning. >> Yeah. like Monty alluded to, um we'll do our traditional update on the government center and then we'll also talk about moving forward with the cabling bid. So, to update you on the things that have been happening lately with the
government center construction, um starting out with schedule. Um as you may have seen, we're almost all framed out upstairs. Um so, you're welcome to go over there with Eric and he can walk you through and uh you can really see how it's taking shape up there. Um
downstairs uh we're going to be finished pouring out uh the vast majority of the slab on grade this week. Uh we had a big pour yesterday. We're pouring today in the next couple of days. So uh that's coming along well too. That uh as I've alluded to before. Uh we had to wait for
that to dry out a little bit after we got kind of swamped in with those rains. So um yeah, that's moving along over the next month. Mo things are mostly going to be focused on interior is going to be mostly focused on framing and doing roughins on the first floor and roughins
on the second floor. Um the roof is almost done and then on the outside we're going to be continuing on with the brick and stone. So lots of stuff happening on the inside. We have a small village over there working right now. I think uh according to Eric's reports
we've been averaging 35 to 40 workers per day across all the different prime contractors. So things are happening fast. So that's good. Um budget-wise, uh currently we're sitting really good with our contingency. We're at about 8% of our contingency spent. Um general
conditions, um we're at about 30% of their general conditions have been spent and that is a little bit behind where we are in the schedule. So that's good to hear as well. We've we're sitting good in both categories. Um about four weeks ago now we uh bid
out the cabling bid which we'll get to in a moment but a high level overview of that is we had seven biders. Uh systematic technologies was the low at $271,69. I think the highest came in uh just shy of $500,000 on that bid tab. Um and so
um that allowed us to move forward with the uh security access bid which was last week. Uh we are still working on uh validating the lowest bidder there and so next time I see you guys we'll be asking you to move forward with that contract. Um Brothers Fire is the
apparent low there and they're at $230,000. Uh there was six betters uh six biders, excuse me, there with the highest being about $453,000. So we had a good good showing there as well. Um yeah, so that uh that's where we're
at right now with everything. Um, so the next item would be to ask you to approve approve a motion to proceed with the contract systematic technologies for the amount stated of 271,69. The contract would be between the county
and the contractor much like all the other contracts for the rest of the job. It's the same contract that uh that you have. The only difference is uh we have the technology consultant firm instead of the architect as a party as the third party to the contract. Um other than
that it's it's pretty much exactly the same. We keep 5% retainage so on and so forth. Is there any questions about the schedule or the contract? >> Um Commissioner Kapinsky. >> Mr. Chair, the the nice thing is is we we would have had a eighth bidder but uh
their work level didn't uh didn't allow that at that time. But uh that individual did share with me that they would have actually been low bid by five grand. >> So we would have had on the cabling infrastructure package, we would have had three bids within like 10 or
$12,000. >> That's good. >> It's really kind of proved our numbers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yep. >> Yeah. So I feel good about the number being a correct number. Um it and we've had a lot of discussions both uh CTA and integrity with systematic gone over everything. We feel like they have a
complete complete and thorough bid there. So, >> y >> motion to approve, Mr. Chair. >> Second. >> Okay, we've got a motion, a second to approve the uh bid for Systematic
Technologies LLC. Correct. >> Commissioner Gapinsky. >> Mr. Chair and Monty, with me being on the evaluating side or more Dawson, should I abstain from that? if you have to, but if you feel like you should, maybe that's
>> I think I would like to just because >> Yeah. Okay. >> You call a question. >> Okay. Any other questions? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. >> I'll abstain. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Passes. >> And just a final housekeeping, Commissioner Heinen, uh that contract will come to you for signer as board chair just like the others. So, all right. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Have a great day. >> Thank you, Jim. >> Mr. Chair, >> Commissioner Gapinsky.
>> Hey, Jim. >> Thank you for I know you and Dawson have been going back and forth on all these contracts and just making sure everything is right. I I appreciate your help on that. >> Absolutely. We're we're really close on that. >> Absolutely. >> Will have an answer there. >> Correct.
>> All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Monty. Okay. Uh I think the next item is the Washington DC fly in by the transportation alliance. This item was tabled from the last meeting brought back to you today I think so all board members could be here. So I think
looking for a consensus on are we going and this who and then we can start making those those arrangements for you >> Mr. Chair. Yeah, Commissioner Ganscape. >> I think we heard from Megan that it's extremely important. >> And I I totally agree. I've already got
commitments. So I know I cannot go in September. Uh I I think it is very important that we go there. >> Yep. >> You know, and I do believe we should bring the >> new county engineer when we hire him. Yeah. >> Out there too with us. It's just a matter of how many people do we need out
there or do we want out there? >> Yeah. I guess >> I'm I'm going to say that I've spent enough time out there and if I choose to go, I'll do it on my own dime. So, um I think I think uh any one of these three could go or I I would say two should
should go. I I >> two plus the county engineer. >> I really do. I mean, we're looking at we're looking at getting >> a substantial amount of money and we heard it when Taylor was here. >> Yep. on how impressed they are of just
our continued support of coming out and visiting with them and stuff. >> And to be completely honest, Mr. Chair, excuse me, um this may be even something that you go to spend some time thanking people. >> Yes. >> Right. Instead of standing there with your hand out and that that's an
important followup part of this. >> Correct. >> You know, we we found out even with Grady of telling us the importance of showing up >> showing up. >> Yeah. and and Commissioner Gapinsky, like you said, this is a substantial
amount of money that could be coming to the county. >> Yeah. Uh it it it's definitely something that I think you put it this way. It's important enough to for me that if I can put it in my schedule, I will pay my own way and go out there personally because
these these people I mean I like in the email I put into so many people go out there expecting demanding >> and are very unthankful because it's their taxpayer money anyway. >> Mhm. I mean, we got to show how appreciative
we are because it is that important to our area. >> You know, it it's like when you and I were in DC in March, you know, they really appreciated all that. >> Mhm. >> Did you find out on yours or
>> It doesn't sound like they're going to be going. They just, you know, they got they got policies, they got rules. So um >> well what do you who can go first? I schedule I can >> I'd like to go to I am on transportation
alliance committee so >> sorry commissioner Benoy commissioner Johnson >> well if I if I go I'll pay my own way but >> but then we have to make it a cow >> well either way that's we don't have to do that right now
>> stipulating you know >> I would rather hold my side until it gets closer >> and it'd be the new county engineer if we hire one >> which we will And I think this is going to be a big transition. >> Send three. So I would have went but
>> Okay. >> I mean, >> you would support sending three. >> No. >> No. Three commissioners. >> Three is not. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Then um uh then we'll get on the committee the whole calendar and Beth will start working on it with you on um
the travel arrangements, hotels, and I believe there's a block of hotel rooms reserved. I think it's held till August. So we do have plenty of time but good to get that settled. Who's going? So again, Commissioner Johnson and >> Commissioner Kapinsky, but you said you would.
>> Okay. >> Are we just going to do some consensus, Mr. Chair? We have action on it. >> Consens up to you guys if you can make it or not. I can't. So >> I don't know that I can any >> Yeah. So >> Okay.
Well, we'll get on the calendar. >> Yep. Next is the county attorney support staff career letter of back on April 21st, our county attorney, Kathleen Rutder, brought to you a request uh to um
consider uh a package so to speak to retain the parallegal and also to create a career ladder for support staff. And I think the goal there, Mr. share is uh to improve attraction and retention of
those important folks in the county attorney's office. So since then uh Susan Block has worked with our compensation consultant Tessa Melvin from DBA uh to come up with this recommended career ladder for you. So uh
essentially consists of uh legal assistant one, legal assistant two and then parillegal grades six, seven and eight. This replaces the current executive assistant position which is also grade six. So executive assistant
becomes a legal assistant one and then there's also a a career progression to to legal assistant two grade seven and then ultimately parallegal at grade 8. I attached the job descriptions and what I attempt to do Mr. here is is you'll see
I I tried to highlight what distinguishes a legal assistant two from a one. And you can see there's some additional job description items that I highlighted for you that distinguish a one from a two. Um I wasn't going to go
through all of them. One of the the key pieces is the legal assistant two requires four years of experience versus three for a one. So typically as you you know go through career ladder that's one common element is more years of
experience gets you the higher level. So those items distinguish again a one from a two. The biggest thing which distinguishes a parallegal from everything else is the certification as a parallegal. And I understand there's a
there's a state organization which uh provides that credential. And as I was looking yesterday through the requirements to become a certified parallegal, it's actually pretty high. You know, it's you can have a bachelor's degree and I think a couple years experience. If you have if you don't have a bachelor's degree, you have to
have 10 years of experience to become a certified parallegal. So that is the biggest distinction for a parallegal is that certification a parallegal. So, I hope this is responsive to what the
board was looking for and also and I know again Susan has conferred with Kathleen on this issue and hopefully it meets their satisfaction and I think a goal there is attraction, retention, >> get people a career ladder move through and hopefully you'll you'll keep those
folks for a long time. >> So, Mr. Chair, what we're looking for, if if you would, is a motion to approve this career ladder with the legal assistant grade six, uh, legal assistant one, grade six, assistant two, grade seven, and then parallegal grade eight
>> board. Mr. Chair, I see Kathleen is online with >> Captain is with us, I believe. Yes, >> first she was. >> Good morning. >> Oh, morning. Okay. >> Hi, Kathleen. >> Yes. >> Good morning. like we'd like to hear
from Kathleen if this is something that >> is in your realm of approval. >> Absolutely. Um >> Okay. >> Thank Thank you for this consideration. I've been working uh with Emily and Susan on this. Um this will enable us to
keep our our parillegal and give us a way to hopefully retain the two individuals we have and anyone that that comes along next. So, I greatly appreciate the board in consideration of this. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. >> Chair. >> Board, Commissioner Kapinsky.
>> Um, I know uh it's Kathleen has been has been coming to us and I know Carl came to us back in the day and everything and we've had a we've kind of had a halt on a lot of these positions being added, but it basically came down to you. hate
to be reactive, but you know, something like this, I mean, we clearly were behind the numbers and we had to do something, >> right? >> And it it wasn't just adding somebody. It was I I don't think that they were appropriately
placed where they needed to be in >> in in in the position where they because there was a lot of there was a lot of detail in in um what they were doing >> for the evidence. Mr. Chair, >> Commissioner,
>> so this comes as I you know I live very close to Morrison County and I get the Morrison County record. So, the county attorney up there, you probably know him, Kathleen Mittenorf, he filed for re-election and he was saying he's got six county attorneys and three parallegals. So, and right after I was
reading that out right after I got done reading the minutes for today and it's like, okay, I got to kind of believe Kathleen that we're still behind the eightball a little bit here. >> Yeah, e even with this added position, we are we are still really behind. We're we're having some discussions right now
with the sheriff's department because of some new programming that they have and trying to work with them because essentially it leaves us having to download hours and hours of this uh electronic discovery. So again, we're we're filling that position before we
even fill that position if that makes I mean, you know, I you know me, I don't like adding new positions, but when you start reading of other things that happen in other counties and when the county engineer goes to the public and says that, you know, this is what we got and that's why he's seeking re-election.
So, >> I'm Thank you. I I'm glad it was referred to HR and you referred it to DDA >> for, you know, improvements in this. >> So, I appreciate that. Everything just went out on the teleprompter.
>> Oh well. Anything else, board being we've got a white screen? >> No. >> I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second. >> Okay, we got a motion and a second to
approve the uh career ladder structure for the county attorney's office. Any further discussion on that? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. Monty, first one, shotgun zone hunting.
>> Uh, well, Mr. Chair, the legislature changed the laws regarding shotgun rifle usage and allowed counties that were previously shotgun to stay shotgun by ordinance if they chose to. And I
believe a few counties have actually decided to stay shotgun. uh if you don't act it goes rifle. Ben County is kind of unusual where there's just a small portion of our county which was shotgun.
So, uh I believe you could keep that shotgun although DNR strongly advises you not to because of confusion uh enforcement challenges. So, okay, here's a line and you know below this line you could be shotgun but above it you got to
be you can be rifle. they advise against it. Uh so I think that's what I'm here, Mr. Chair, to ask you is do we basically leave things untouched and it's rifle or do you wish to pursue keeping the shotgun in the former
shotgun area? >> Commissioner Pinsky. >> Mr. Chair, I have actually taken probably 10 15 calls on this. >> Yeah. And uh I go to a lot of the banquetss and everything like that. And
I I gotta say that having that little piece of dwellum beh uh and and actually uh Commissioner Benoy brought up something in the past like even coyote hunting or something like that. They're they're using rifles anyway. >> Correct. Yep. >> So
>> this I should said right this deer hunting right now. >> Yeah. It's just deer hunting that the this applies to. So I'm I'm in favor of moving it all to rifle. >> I I have two gone to banquetss just like you, Commissioner Gopinsky and I'm hearing the same thing. >> Yep. >> Commissioner Johnson, it's your district. >> Yeah. Mine and and Commissioner Benoy. I
can't speak for you, but I've received no input one way or the other. >> Me neither. >> I have not received any input either, >> you know. So the real question is is do we just want to approve it to go into rifle or do we need to set up a public >> you don't have to take any if you want to keep it rifle you don't have to do
anything >> right then the DNR will just take care of it correct >> that's fine >> the only thing the only thing I'm thinking is I suppose if we're going to take action on we got to have public input on >> well it would require an ordinance which you know the ordinance procedure public notice public hearing all those things
that that's what it would require an ordinance right >> but if but if you said we do nothing then rifle to rifle. >> You don't have to do anything. >> Okay. Right. >> Perfect. >> Let a sleeping dog lie then. >> Yep. I agree with that too. Consensus on that. All right. >> I guess. >> Okay. Next.
>> Uh Mr. Chair, I wanted to just start the discussion about security. I didn't expect we'd resolve it today. Uh let's see. I need to zoom out here. So, as you may as you may recall, uh this is this is the threedimensional view of of you're walking in a new government
center and uh building is designed to have a security checkpoint. So, there's, you know, casework. It's going to be constructed in a place for a security person to staff that. The plan of course at this point doesn't include the purchase of a metal detector. It could
um but the security checkpoint is part of the construction plan. So again, just want to get this discussion going to see does the board do you want to have some some form of security presence at the entrance and I think at that point you know Mr. SH we can start getting into
details of like okay what level of security would it be armed security or unarmed or you know would it be county staff would it be contracted we can dig into the details later I think I just want to first start with where you land in this issue of having a
security checkpoint >> Commissioner Johnson >> I'll just start with saying absolutely we do okay >> from my perspective and then figure out the details later would make more sense to >> uh open up this new building, not have
security detail in it. >> I would agree. >> Thoughts? Okay. There seems to be >> that was I think the big issue of what do you want to resolve today is do you want to see some form of security and then you know get into the details of you how do you staff it? You know what
is the for example you may have seen we went in the capitol. It's interesting how they've done that where it's kind of what I call airport light. You know, they do actually put your bag through me some sort of scanner. You walk through a
metal detector and they have a combination of unarmed capital security and then armed DPS there. There's always one armed DPS, but they also have unarmed security staff that do most of the screening. Uh, so I guess that's what we have to sort through. You know,
of course, if it's armed security, that means a licensed deputy >> and that's certainly a lot more expensive than an unarmed person. Um, so those are things to consider. And how many would it take to provide open to close staffing, you know, five days a week, you know, that something we have
to sort through is what is how much staffing is required. And obviously, we'd have to acquire some equipment. Do you want just the, you know, the metal detector? You also want the the like again at the airport where actually you can you can see inside of the bag x-ray type machinery for the bag.
>> Mr. Yeah, that that is going to be a conversation uh that's going to have to be had because uh that equipment ranges in price. Like there's like those Evolve um machines uh they can you don't buy
those, you lease those >> because they they come with updates and it's usually a 5year lease and there's no $1 buyout at the end either. M >> but you're looking substantial money uh on that and it's only as good as as somebody's watching.
>> Yeah. That's with any piece of equipment that you put there. >> If if it's going to be unmanned, you might as well not put it, >> right? >> Because it is not going to matter. >> So, >> you know, at at the courthouse, you know, we have two manned officers and
then you go through a metal detector, too. And I would assume that's probably what we're looking at, right? I think we don't need to make that decision today. >> No, no. Right. >> I think just the fact we need to know that we're going to do something. >> But but I'm I'm glad we're bringing this
up because I can tell you there's no there's no infrastructure put there for that. >> No, other than the casework and that's just the basic of the counter. Uh we have not programmed in any form of you know metal detector or X-ray machine.
No, that's not been programmed yet. There's going to have to be power and low voltage to that area, >> right? Yeah. >> I was under the impression we were going to put that in there regardless right away. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. I don't recall what we did. >> No, because you don't know it. It's got
to be put in according to the equipment you're you're using because it's none of that stuff is universal >> for the most part. >> Wow. You know, I've already mentioned this to Sheriff Hack and asked him to consider, you know, what if he were to provide the security, what level of staffing will be
required. >> Uh, so obviously want to bring him into that conversation. Uh, you know, about what is the what is the appropriate level of security for this building? Because you probably gone into lots of different kinds of building. You see all kinds of level of security from like
>> armed, you know, it's like airport and then you may see just a non-armed person sitting at a desk. You see all kinds of different levels. I guess, you know, it's important for the board to say what's right for us in this building. >> Yeah. >> The Monte board, what is the Sterns
County Service Center have out there? You know, they got the person at the desk, but that's about it. That's it. >> No security. You just walk through. Well, you walk through that >> when you go through the doors, right? >> So, when they first opened, >> they had >> Yeah. >> When they first opened, they had
deputies, they had metal detector, and I believe they even had uh bag search. I'm not sure if they had an X-ray machine, but they had a high level of security when they first opened, and that's gone now. >> Yeah. >> Admin, >> that is gone, right? >> Admin's different, but they have no
security in DMV, >> right? If you've been at Sherburn, for example, if you go right into courts, it's a very high level of security. Go left, there's no security to the general governmental area. There's not. >> It depends on where you're going. So,
>> I I guess to clarify my point is absolutely we have to have this discussion about how we're going to do security. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Well, I think it's great subject for a committee of the whole bring sheriff heck into that and maybe any other expertise that we can find to have this discussion. I think what in the meantime
maybe I'll get Dawson getting some budgets for what some of this might be so we have that for that meeting. >> You may remember the ones at the capital they were like smaller units much smaller than you see like at an airport.
So uh very portable looks like too. >> They're Yeah, they're they're portable and and they got the step over. >> That's where the the low voltage and power cables are running. >> Oh, okay. So because yeah be awfully tedious to sort of manually search bags,
>> right? >> You know, I think of like the bag search like you go into like a baseball game. I mean, somebody just kind of peaks in, looks, it's not very >> But they but they already go through a scanner. >> You've got >> So they go through a scanner and then somebody looks through them, too. >> Yeah.
>> So >> So there's a lot to it >> there. There is. And we'll just, you know, I think one thing is to take a look at the courthouse, see how well that is going. >> Yeah. give us a good idea too though, >> you know, and and and come to think of
it, if we're really looking at this, I think it might behoove us to hold off on the security contractor at this point because if you a lot of the leading edge
um we'll call it the scanners are Evolve and they are owned by Motorola who owns a Vigilon and they pair together. So like all the stadiums, the the capital, everything have EVA >> as their >> Yeah. >> They're the ones with the gun gun
detection, everything like that and and comes up on a scanner. So just just >> that's a good conversation to have with Jim in terms of the schedule. Does it throw a a kink into, you know, the the building plan? I don't know. >> I don't think it would if we if we did the meeting here in the next, you know,
two, three weeks. >> Have that discussion with them tomorrow at the building committee meeting >> at that project meeting. Yeah. No. Okay. I think that's all I had. >> Okay. Thank you, Monty. >> Good morning, Steve. >> Hi, Steve. >> Glad you're still here.
>> Good morning, everyone. >> Steve, thank you for your help on the the the DC stuff, too, because you are frantically taking our phone calls. >> Pretty minor of part, but congratulations to this board. What great successes and accomplishments you've made here just in this short
period of time. Just wish you could be here to go through all of this in the next five years. That'd be great. >> You're lined up to to get Oh, yeah. >> So, Steve, looks like first is the Kasha 3 uh paving reclaim. That's the first one. Looks like Yeah,
>> we we received bids on the uh County State Highway 3 project from uh CASAW 1 to Casaw 4. That was a a federal exchange where we exchanged federal dollars and then we accelerated it. Uh bids came in very reasonable with Knife
River Corporation being the lowest responsible bidder and we're a little over 15% under the engineers estimate. >> Nice. >> So that was that was good to see. >> And to the tune, Steve, of that's $613,000.
>> Yeah. Um >> right. >> It's uh Yeah, pretty close. >> Yep. It was 14 >> 613,415 under the estimate. >> Yep. >> So that that then goes back into our uh
state aid construction account um which I in was intending to beef up the the uh the county's road and bridge fund, but because there are some requests that we can make to bring that into our account so you have control over that. And so
we'll we'll bring our account uh closer to what we had expected it to be at the end of this year. >> But I would ask the board uh to authorize this contract to the lowest responsible bidder of Knife River. >> I'll move approval. I'll second that.
>> We've got a motion and a second. Uh Steve Alam asking, excuse me, there's a lot of construction going around the school district. Please inform them of when things are going to start happening and the direction of all this stuff that's going to go.
>> Sure. >> And we we uh I think this past uh few days the advanced construction for the roundabout uh was going up. So some of that signing is up in place now. >> Yep. They are up. >> Yep. And tomorrow we'll be meeting with the contractor and we're going to be
getting uh details on the roundabout um for how they plan to proceed with that that we're going to get in and school is going to be out where they're going to be allowed to work. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. Real one real quick deal on this is I did talk with Stoaltman. I
thought maybe somebody else did on here too. >> I haven't heard from him lately. >> Um >> uh I was on the email. >> Okay. you were on the I knew somebody else was, but uh I did talk with uh Stolman on and he was wondering about instead of making everybody go right out of there if we could do a road that gets
back on the 29. And I I I told him there's a lot of things that come into play with government and and especially with us going to start in the next couple weeks for construction that would be pretty tough to do right now because people bid it the certain way.
>> Mhm. it whenever you start to make changes after you've awarded a contract, you pay for it. >> Uh those things, that's why you hire your staff to try to think all that through and work that through so that we're not you don't get caught up into that. Um we can look at it if it is
something reasonable and not too costly. It might be something we could do, but otherwise it's probably going to be >> but it would be going kind of through where that holding pond would be. And they were thinking if you cuz he was talking with somebody from Knife River,
>> but it would be a road coming over through that holding pond basically and then doing the holding pond later. And I'm like, well, where's the water go at that point? >> That'd be a difficult >> Yeah. And >> redundancy happening there, too. >> And he's just trying to help. He really is. Yeah. Just trying to help and and
give people an alternative route out of there. So, it's not like he he's trying to just throw a wrench in everything. He's trying to help. >> Yeah. >> I uh I do know when we had an open house, he also brought that up a long time ago to WSB about all that, too. So
this is where I'm going. >> But it might be worth just maybe a call uh with me or Commissioner Benoy or somebody just to Robert and explain, you know, explain why that might not be >> the best timing to do all this.
>> Okay. We'll try to work something through like that >> if we can. I know things are moving quick. So >> Okay, we Okay, Commissioner Bite. Um, do you have any idea when that recon or the mill and overlay on three is going to
start? I've had probably about six phone calls. >> I don't have I'll get I'll once we have the precon and we tie that that information in, I'll get you a email so that you know when everything's going to be happening. >> All right, sounds good. >> We'll be moving that pretty quickly here
now that we've got the board awarding the contract. >> Okay, >> great. Any further discussion on this? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you.
>> Next, uh, consider the acceptance and final payment for project number SP00570016. Mr. Chairman, members of the board, this was a highway safety improvement project, a striping and rumble strip project on Casaw 13 from Highway 10,
CASAW 1. Um, the work has been completed in accordance with our specifications. The final payment is $232,525. The project uh underran by just uh a little bit under $2,000. So, we would request that the board
would authorize final payment. >> I'll make a motion to authorize final payment. >> Second. >> Got a motion and a second. Any more discussion? Any discussion on this item? >> Now, I'll call the question. All in favor say I.
>> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. consider WSB preliminary and final design services for the amendment number two for the roundabout at County Road 80 and Cassaw 3 project.
So as a part of uh the last time we reviewed our 2026 road capital improvement program uh the board had uh author or told us to move forward with adding this project into that uh
program. And so, uh, we have worked with WSB for engineering services to do the design and permitting and rightway acquisition for that. And we're requesting that we would add that to the, uh, agreement that the board has
for the 29 extension. Uh, it makes sense. They have quite a bit of information. They have the survey completed all the way through there. Uh, this is the company that would make most sense to, uh, award this to. so that it's coordinated with the 29 extension
uh as we move forward and and try to bid these very close together if not at the same time. >> Mr. Chair, Steve, uh refreshing memory, they're going to review the need for single or two lane. >> I I spent quite a bit of time with them
on that issue. Um the end result is looking at the traffic volumes that currently exist, it's highly unlikely that it could generate a a multi-lane Secondly, the the uh desire for a multi-lane or the
the the need for that uh is being evaluated closer because they become more complicated for drivers. So the use of the single lane is even with higher volumes is becoming uh a preferred
option because it moves traffic without uh as much confusion for the op for the driver. >> How about solid size wise for you know a lot of semi- traffic egg lot of large egg equipment >> and so the the the width of the existing on a single lane can be adjusted in
order to accommodate that. That's a that's an issue and kind of the damage that the the the vehicles do to the to the roundabout just because they can't make the move as easy as normal um is is something that has to be built into that
design. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Commissioner Kapinsky, you have anything else? >> No, I I think doing a uh doing a single lane like that if that's what the numbers come out at is right, but I would like to see it be a large single lane, >> right? Yep. >> There's a lot of truck traffic and a lot
of egg. >> You're going to see more truck traffic than you >> realize that's going to be on there. >> Okay. Board, what do you want to do with this? >> I'll move approval. >> Oh, go ahead. You got it. >> You move it. >> Okay. We've got We got a motion. I need a second.
>> I'll second it. >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Bono. Um, so on these roundabouts, and I'm just trying to get a picture of what what the plan is either through the engineering department or what the board's thoughts are when we put these roundabouts in.
What are we looking at putting in the center of those roundabouts? >> I guess we probably similar to what previous designs are. it's allowed to uh it really is the more you add into that if you want something that's very easy
to maintain and doesn't >> a lot of effort and so it's probably not going to be anything too extravagant >> and I would say >> and and I'm just looking >> either >> well no and I'm I'm just looking for like
>> I mean sometimes plants >> No, that kind of stuff it it takes way too much maintenance, Right. >> And and I I don't know, extravagant things in the middle, granite, those kinds of things don't appeal to me
either because if somebody hits that, granite's not very uh forgiving. I guess I would say, >> you know, Mr. >> So, so I'm just asking overall general what what you know, >> I would agree with you that uh I mean
this is a safety measure that we want to put into place. You want to you don't want them to cost so much that you lose one down the road because you're spending so much on some other ones, >> right? >> So, you need to be efficient and that's what that's what the approach would be to these.
>> Thank you, Commissioner P. >> Well, I think you need simple, efficient, and it's rural. Just admit that it's rural and that go look at what other rural roundabouts look like and that's kind of what you need. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Simple, no maintenance. Got it.
Any further discussion on this item? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Motion carries. Thank you. Next. Award con award construction contract for project SP0000561317. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is the
bids were received for the replacement of bridge over the Elk River on County State Highway 13. See by the summary, we've received very reasonable bids, very close to the engineers estimate.
I guess this one we would have won if we were bidding on it, but one a little over one and a percent over uh with Redstone Construction. We we had to bid these two at separate contracts, but at the same time um because they're
federal funding and how that whole thing proceeded, uh this is how we had to bid it. We couldn't bid them together as one project. It actually benefited us because once you get into those higher the higher uh estimated numbers, it it
puts you into other compliance things that you have to do. So, we were able to stay under the those which was beneficial to us. But we would recommend that Redstone Construction, who had the bridges last year, would be awarded this contract.
>> Move for approval, Mr. Chair. >> I'll second. >> Get a motion and a second. Any further discussion on this item? >> Yeah. on these two bridges. Do we have a start date and a finish date like completed by I mean, you know, this is when they close the road and
>> we we open bids on Friday. So Carl's been humping really hard to just get things reported to mind to be able to get us to the point where we can award it. We haven't uh had any conversations with the contractor yet. >> Okay. Okay. But again, in the same
fashion as the three project, as soon as we have a precon setup and we tie those that information in, the board will get a notice of what's going to be happening on these, especially in your districts. >> All right. >> Okay. Thank you. Any further discussion? If not, I'll call a question. All in
favor say I. >> I. >> I opposed. Motion carries. Next contract. Oh, bridge replacement contract for SP005612018. Again, uh similar uh project that uh we had on county stated highway 13 on
county stated highway 12. Uh we bid that at the same time and uh see again we had good bids. Actually, this time Redstone was under the engineers estimate by a little over one and a half percent. Um,
good bids tied together, same contractor, even the inspection and everything throughout the summer is going to work well because we have the same contractor going on both projects. Um, and also these projects are funded
by IGA at 100%. So, uh, if the first project the that difference of overrun, we may have to cover that. We're going to see if we can get the the, uh, underrun on this applied to that project. But if we can't, we still are pretty darn close to the engineers
estimate, but we would recommend that the board would authorize this and award it to Redstone. >> I'll make that move, chair. I'll second. >> Okay, we got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on this item? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I
>> opposed. Motion carries. Thank you very much, Steve. Appreciate it. >> And just a a quick update on uh pro projects that have started up uh work in the city of Gilman started last week. The uh some of the black dirt work and
turf establishment. Uh there is some concrete replacement where uh panels have cracked that have to be replaced starting today. Um there is some repairs on weak areas within the street that will follow and then paving will take
place. Uh we have a June 5th I think or June some uh June 5th uh completion date and they're on track to to complete the project by that time. Uh County Stadium Highway 7, there's a couple things on a punch list that are being completed uh
met with the contractor being completed on that project. So, uh, we would, uh, find ourselves in a probably a couple of weeks where we can bring that in for final acceptance to the board. Uh, again, tomorrow we're going to be meeting on the roundabout, which is under a contract with Knife River, uh,
to, uh, go through how they're going to approach this now that it's getting close to the start time. As the board is, uh, probably aware also, uh, Mandot has been conducting a Highway 10 study. I think that Monty has been
involved in that more than I have and maybe he could could address uh how that is working. But I have had some conversations uh with Mandot who would like to do a work session with the board uh as they kind of start to filter
through design alternatives. But um that would happen in June or July when I'm gone. Oh, >> what? >> Where are you going? >> On vacation. >> Fishing. Fishing trip. >> Very long one.
>> Well deserved though. >> Yep. >> Let me step back. Give >> just a quick update. >> Uh I I thought it's good time to give an update because you know the study will be wrapping up this summer into fall. So I should mention though, of course, as soon as our permit engineer is hired, I
will gladly hand this off uh because that's their area of expertise. So, I've gone to a few of these TAC meetings. At the last one, uh, Mindot unveiled with a consultant, KLG, a vast number of potential options just for discussion
purposes. And I took tons of pictures. Mandot asked that those not be shared publicly at this point. They're not ready to unveil these publicly. Uh, so I I I won't do that. I just want to focus more on like timing and process. So
right now, Mandot is working with KJ to come up with its recommended solutions uh for this corridor and the corridor again is from St. Cloud up to the city limits of Little Falls. Uh so again, they're going to come up with their
recommended alternative. Then MDOT's going to hold public meetings uh late summer, fall to unveil these options and then the study will be completed by the end of this year. I can give you a little bit of a preview of kind of, you know, where does this look like it's
going. I think it looks like in the rural areas the probably the the selection, the selected choice is going to be J turns. >> Uh I think the reality is that of course interchanges are enormously expensive
and aren't realistic financially. So I the what I'm seeing again what I'm hearing from the feedback from the TAC meetings is we're probably going to see J turns. Um, and you may be wondering when. So I asked the project manager at the last meeting, you know, when might
we see these 2032 33 at the earliest. So a bit ways off. He said something about like the the current STIP expires end of 20 2031. So the be in the next step. U so that's if you're thinking about time frame 32 33
is when these might occur. And again, I think the solution is leaning very much towards J turns in the rural areas. Um, and I and Mr. Chair, I think again from my, as you know, you experienced Highway 10, it's a scary place and they want to eliminate these crossovers. So, it
means, you know, you you hang out a right, you've got an acceleration lane, you move over to a deceleration lane, you come around, you've got an acceleration lane, you come back. Uh, that's going to be the affordable solution, I think. um in the next couple of decades
>> in the urban areas. I think a mendot's goal of course is to eliminate stop signals, stop signals and improve safety at those intersections. So those most likely will be some form of interchange uh in St. Cloud. That's what I'm seeing and hearing from them. It'll be some
form of interchange. Again, that's very uh funding dependent though. I asked the project manager about the J turns. It sounds like they could potentially work those into their existing pavement management budget. So those seem probably a little more realistic to
occur sooner rather than later. Uh whereas the interchange solutions are big, very expensive. So um again, Mandot will unveil those plans sometime uh looks like this fall uh for public meetings and to get input. I know of
course the ones in the urban areas are of substantial interest to a lot of people. Uh I think that is it and I think Steve said it sounds like Tom wants to Tom Cuchenis wants to arrange meeting with you all this year. I'm not exactly sure. Did he say when?
>> Yeah, I think before it goes to the out to the public he'd like to meet with the board in the work session and kind of go up there. >> Yeah. >> Looking interesting. And Commissioner Gapinsky, >> I know that I was talking to some individuals, but I know the contentious
one right now is the one on 10 >> right by McDonald's. Germaine, >> they're looking at potentially closing that. >> And they're they're worried about emergency services getting over to that area.
>> One of the concerns that Mandot has is there is substantial pedestrian traffic across Highway 10 there. So they've got to provide a safe path for pedestrians to get across that road. You know, there's all those apartments and other facilities on the east side of Highway 10. >> So I think that would be obviously you
can't do a J turn there. So it's probably going to be some form of overpass, right? >> Yeah, Mr. Chair, I just looking at the calendar, region 7W meeting coming up on June 12th, which Tom is at. So I'm assure that they're going to try to set some meetings up after that meeting.
>> Yeah. So that's the >> always come to ATP meetings for fun. >> Mhm. >> The region 7W one there too. >> I know I'm dry. >> I'll sit down.
So, since this uh is probably the last opportunity I have to present before this honorable county board, I do uh want to thank some people for helping uh helping me as I navigated the last number of months here. Um kind of
starting off with the departments. There wasn't a department that wasn't helpful. extremely supportive from IT, administration, the sheriff's office, the HR, all of them really were supportive if we needed anything or asked for anything. Especially
administrator Hadley, your advice and your guidance, direction, uh that really helped. It was invaluable in getting through this. Um the staff out at public works, we got a really good nucleus out there right now. Uh Carl is like an old
champion. and he the way he's moving through through stuff after just a month. I thought he was an old pro. Um but the the younger people too, they're being professional. They are dedicated out there. They're going to it's going to be a good team. So as uh as that
moves forward, there's a lot of work here that needs to be accomplished. You got good people to do that. And then of course this county board your uh your encouragement and your uh support throughout this whole thing and uh um
the confidence that you've had in me uh really made this able to work. So I appreciate that and I want to thank you for that. And with that I'll go away. >> Well well don't go away quite yet. We we want to thank you for stepping in.
>> Yeah. and getting us through some difficult times and and I would hope that you could stick around just a little bit longer, you know, to help us, but >> I think the board would like to extend them a couple more months. Yeah,
>> I'm I'm sure you uh you uh you're going through the process here and you're getting close and whoever you select is going to want to get in and I think uh they're going to find that it's ready to to take off and I hope we are leaving it in a decent spot.
>> I think we are. So, >> Mr. Jared, and I'd personally want to thank you, Steve, for stepping in and taking a chance on us, too, because you were stepping into >> a big quagmire of things to do and and obviously your experience has taken us to levels that I mean, we couldn't have
asked for more. You've done nothing but support us, support our projects, figured out way to make things happen, support your staff. I know they're very appreciative of you out there. So, it's a great reflection on uh your long history as being a county engineer, and we really appreciate your ability to
come back and help us through this. >> I thank you for that, >> Mr. Chair. From from my perspective, you taught us a lot >> in a short amount of time because we were used to a different way from the time I've been here >> and you come in and and like, well, I've
I've done it this way in the past and we were like, oh, that's a that's makes it a lot better, you know? So, we've learned a lot of things along the way when there's there's different views and and stuff. So, I I wish you would stick around, but completely understand you earned your
retirement and we got we got some months out of you that you probably didn't plan for, but we thank you, >> Commissioner. >> Appreciate that. I I think we're in a good spot. >> Yeah. I think after hearing all the kudos and everything, how the your former county and uh commissioners and
that praised you, I can see why now after working for us for this short period of time. >> We know why you were there for many many years. E >> Commissioner, >> and I I I too I mean like Jared, we
learned a lot just in that short period of time that that you were here. it it it it it doesn't go unnoticed and the staff has over there has absolutely nothing but praise for you. Um and yes,
I would like to see you come out of retirement and and take this on. However, I completely understand. Um so I want to also extend my thank you. >> If if I was 10 years younger, I maybe would. It's a it's a good count.
Thank you. >> Thank you sir. >> Appreciate it. >> Okay. Roxan land services consideration of the final plat entitled Sunset Village. >> Yes.
See if I can find files here. >> Monty likes to hide them. Probably stole that wreck Davis car. >> That's where all the paperwork is. >> Yeah. >> Somewhere in the back. >> They found it in the trunk.
>> Thank god the windows weren't open. >> Well, they were after it was all done. >> All right. So, the Highway 10 discussion was kind of a great segue into this next item. Yeah. >> Um this is a plat for two lots along
Highway 10, formerly platted as Watts Channel Estates. Um this area was previously uh four five lots. So actually there is a a fifth lot that's down along Burton, excuse me, Burton Court. Um that one is not part of the
plat. This one is to combine four parcels into two parcels. And the purpose of the plat is for a future campground. Um the campground uh it will be on the June 11th planning commission
meeting uh for a public hearing. Um so a lot of the comments that we received for the plat were more related to um concerns with the campground. Um, additionally in your packet you will see that we did receive comments from Mandot
um just emphasizing um the safety along Highway 10, the concerns um and making sure that the developer was well aware of the study that was um taking place. Um so uh the request is to combine four
lots into two lots for the purpose of a campground and the planning commission did take action on this on let's see April 9th there uh on the preliminary plat that was approved and recommended
for um the commission to approve the plat. There was a minor change in the property line um for lot one. the line went straight. Um it has since kind of joged to the north and that was simply to accommodate um impervious surface
areas and density calculations for the campground. >> Thank you, Roxan. Commissioner Johnson have anything? >> I don't. I was actually I actually was not at that meeting on April 9th. So you'll >> you'll see some of the emails and I did
get some calls on it that they I mean you know that 13 crossing that's Between that one and the halfway crossing are the probably the two most dangerous rural crossings. And they're going to put a J turn at halfway crossing. I don't know what they're going to do here because they come from
the south going >> going north. You cannot see I you're going to have to if you want to cross even if you want to go north, you cannot see very far out to that. That's just you know and then you're going to have a campground. I understand the campground's going to be more for senior
camping than it is for Yeah. >> like they want longterm where you can come there and stay all summer is what you've been hearing. So I I mean I don't I don't know. This is not something that's pro it's probably something that somebody wants to do with
some property but is it in the best interest of safety and everything else that goes on there? I don't know. >> And Mindad is very well aware of the Camp Brown. >> They are. >> Yes, they are. Yeah. Yeah. >> I So I've sent them the plat. Um and this is standard procedure. I sent them the plat because they do need to be
aware of any plat along um their right of way. Um so that's when I received the comments that I did. And then I've also sent them the plans for the campground. And I'm I'm hoping that they will provide additional comments. I'm not sure if they will since they've already provided the comments as part of the plat process.
>> Well, Mr. Chair, may I say, and Roxan, correct me if I'm wrong, but the planning commission approved a preliminary plat to recommend to the county board for final plat. >> Then planning commission will take on the campground application in June, which is a separate public hearing, >> correct? >> Which a lot of Yes.
>> And and if I might, um that is so all planning commission meetings are listed as committee of the holes >> so that the board is aware that that is a meeting that you can attend. It's it's a it's a published committee of the whole. So in front of us today is just a plat,
>> right? Not so much the campground. >> Yeah. And and just to um it doesn't show it well on this plat, but Burton Court is a culde-sac. So the residents in that area all use that access to um to
Highway 10, and that will include all of the the campers. Um, and not getting into too much detail, the proposal of the campground is that they will be park models that will stay on site. So, you won't have RVs and campers leaving that
in and out of that site over a weekend or anything like that. Um, park models will stay stationary >> right on the highway like that. >> Well, you can see the construction going on. I'm sorry. The tree removal and everything going on right now through
that area too. >> Yes. >> And I might as well uh add to that. Um on May 28th to the uh south here on the other lot of Watts Channel, they are proposing uh to have a sales lot for the
park models. So they'll be having six park models sitting there. Um it'll be by appointment only where customers will come in um select and design their park model that will then be moved up to um
the campground and that's on May 28th. >> Again, a committee of the whole. So >> again, we're just deciding on the platform. >> Yep. So board, what do you want to do with this? >> You're going to have to have a public hearing, Mr. Chair, I think, on this, right? Final plat.
>> No, it's two. It's two lots or less, so no public hearing is necessary. I did put it as a regular item simply because of comments that we've received um and the change in the property lines of the plat. >> Okay.
>> And it doesn't meet all the requirements from the county? >> Yes. >> Board, what would you like to do with this? >> I'll make a motion to approve the plat. >> Second. Okay, we got a motion and a second to approve the final plat of
Sunset Sunset Village. Any further discussion on that? >> Not call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Opposed? I. >> Motion carries. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. Uh, thinking of our
attorney's availability, I'm hoping we could actually do our close session uh at 10:30. So, >> didn't know we were on a time frame, but the close session >> uh
I told our attorney approximately 10:30. So, we do our best to try and guess times. So, >> okay. So, we've got two and a half minutes. Board, what do you want? What do you want to do now? >> I say >> because then at that point in time, we'll have to do the >> ditch authority.
>> Ditch ditch authority, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, otherwise we can recess until 10:30 and go into uh public into closed meeting. Let's do that. We'll recess right now and go into >> So So you we just need a motion per the agenda item to go into close session, right?
>> I'll make a motion to go into close session. >> Right. >> Second. Part: 2
us on December 22nd of 2020. Um, of the next year, January 19th, 2021, the drainage authority ordered an engineers report to be completed. Um, I recently received the engineer report. On May 8th of this year, um, and now under state
statute, we must set a public hearing regarding this report. Um, like I stated before, um, notices will be sent out to all benefiting land owners regarding this public hearing. Um, since six and
seven are, um, a benefiting outlet to CD10, they will also have to be notified for this public hearing. Um, so it would be notices to CD10, 6, and 7 for this repair. Adam, may I ask, is not CD11 a
outlet of CD10 and do they have to be notified? >> Um, I do not believe CD11 has to be notified because CD11 does not pay anything towards CD10. It's the other way around. CD10 pays for 11. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. Go ahead. May I ask Adam,
does the applicant know the ramifications >> regarding uh the the petition for repair that applicant? Y >> um >> cuz we've heard in the past they didn't know the ramifications of applying for
>> but I think they've also been asking what the holdup is on the repair. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I've been getting >> Christine can comment on that. Right. The the applicant was in and asked question. The applicant was in wondering where it was at and I told them that the public hearing was going to be set at this meeting.
>> Okay. >> But and to your point though, Commissioner Kaminsky, if we set the public hearing for the repair report, that's not the approval of a repair. >> No, >> no, >> it's hearing the repair report, hearing from the public, >> then we go in the discussion about that.
>> Yeah. >> So, we got to have this public hearing. >> Yeah. The public hearing is is state statute um regarding what you all do on that public hearing date. If you guys go forward with the repair or you table it or do a different alternative that is up
to you all. Um but today is just to set set the public hearing. >> And we were originally looking I believe Adam at uh June 16th. >> Correct. I believe there's a state statute that once I bring this to you all we have to have the hearing within a
month. Um, so we were looking at June 16th. Um, obviously CD10, I think Christine stated that there's over 500 parcels that will have to be notified. Obviously there's owners who own multiple parcels, but still it's going
to be quite a big amount. Um, so we looked in at obviously this boardroom is not going to fit um 500 individuals. I'm not saying 500 people will show up, but we got to be prepared for, you know, the the most people we can. Um, so I looked at the Foley auditorium and they stated
that there most likely won't be AC during June because they're going to be doing repairs. Um, so Christine asked the city of Sock Rapids and they stated that we could use the Riverside Terrace um as a as a building to hold our public
hearing. >> Is that the same as a clearing? There's a clearing. >> I don't know if it'll hold that many people though. >> Christine stated that they got 150 chairs. >> So, >> if we have more than that, then it is what it is.
>> We've made an attempt to >> Sure. >> Yeah. I'm not sure if there's any other best options. Also, the city of Sak Rapid stated that we could have it for for free as well, I believe. >> Does that seat clearing hold more than the government center? >> I think it's about the same.
>> Okay. The government center was >> who who is the applicant >> or can I ask? >> Yeah. >> The petitioner was um >> Reinard or their daughter. >> There's more to that than that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But fact of the matter is they're the petitioner.
>> Fact is they're the petitioner. They're the land. >> I just want to make sure that the Rinards know that what this is triggering even after I mean >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> I think they're going to hear it that night at the public hearing. what I could potential. >> Well, I I think commission I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. You know, all the meetings we had with ditch 10 here with getting rid of the uh beavers and everything >> and con confrontational that it always has been. This is not going to be good.
>> Well, I mean at the ditch subcommittee, we should recess the ditch meeting until say, "Okay, people fight it out. decide what you want to do and not, you know, come back with a recommendation to us. >> Yeah. So, June 16th, we talking 6 p.m.
>> I will not be here on that day. I'm on vacation that week. So, >> Okay. >> You ain't coming back for a ditch meeting. >> I'll come I'm coming back for the board meeting, but I will not do an evening meeting. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we discussed an evening meeting because, you know, obviously you guys have heard feedback in the past regarding the times.
>> You gone that week, Jared? >> Mhm. >> So, that's going to be >> I guess I have a question for Christine. You're gone, too. >> 500 parcels. >> Actually, it's like 800, I believe. >> Oh, >> so they all got to get letters. >> Yeah. Well, we we postards buying, you
know, multiple parcel owners >> so that we're not sending out >> how many do you have any idea how many people got? >> I would say probably 500. >> And the notification requirement timeline is 10 days. Yeah,
>> correct. >> What if we moved it up to June 2nd? I mean, because I just heard Commissioner Heiden said he'd be gone, too. >> Well, and and Ed has a library board meeting that same night. So, you'd be miss you're going to be missing three board members.
>> Yeah. So, we won't even have a quorum. >> Sorry about that. >> Um, >> blame my wife. No, just kidding. How about How about Monday the 8th or Tuesday the 9th? >> We would have to see if it's available.
>> Yeah. >> Wow. And and if you're looking at that many people, I mean, the clearing is really not going to hold that many people if that many people show up. So, we've been really good at working with Brad. Why not talk to Brad and find out if they have the Sock Rapids Auditorium
at the high school open? Well, that must seat 500 or more, doesn't it? >> You could, but getting into there is not the easiest. >> That's right. It's going to be all construction. >> We do the clearing and we do if it's 100 people >> like to stand around the edge. Have to
stand around the edge. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We're going to end up having to have somebody at the door trying to >> Yep, you're right. >> Do the signin sheets again. Yeah. >> Prove that they were there. >> Could you do the ninth, Christine? That
you lose a week. Um >> I mean >> and well let my first question is is everybody available tonight? >> 6 pm. >> What day is our district and are meeting at? >> 8th. >> Monday the 8th.
>> That's Tuesday then. >> Tuesday the 9th. >> Oh Frank, I'm gonna get hung if I do that. I just saw something on here. You're talking June, right? >> I am, but no. What about June 8th? Monday. June 8th.
>> After the district meeting. >> Well, district meeting will be done by 1. >> Monday, June 8th. >> Good. >> I don't have a problem with that. As long as we can find a facility. >> Well, either the clearing or the >> the clearing should be open.
>> The clearing or Yeah, >> either one at the city. Yeah. >> What he's trying to say is They may be booked that day, >> right? We know. We know. I'm sorry. We understand that. >> We just assume that hopefully the clearing andor the community room, one of the two would not be booked. That's
all. >> I'm see. >> There's a obviously this is the engineers report. So, we need Houston engineering. Joe Lewis will be the one. >> So, is he going to be able to make it?
Yeah, that'll be the next thing. >> What's the date? >> June 8th. >> June 8th. >> June 8th >> 6 p.m. >> Even the government center works pretty much same size. >> The eighth and nth it's booked by
actually Christristen Cheetah, emergency management. Well, we're going to kick her out for the evening. >> For the evening, Ashley. >> Evening. >> Six o'clock. >> She's gonna Yeah. Why don't we talk more about actual times and I'll I bet it's
probably daytime, though. It's probably not night. This is This would be an evening meeting. >> How about the government on the He didn't hear that. >> I will do that. >> Is a government center open? >> Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Ashley. Yep. Yep.
>> Okay. Understood. Understood. Okay. Thanks, Ashley. Bye. >> Have question. She's number. >> I do. Yeah. >> Did you ask her center? Because government center is the same size as the terrace.
>> I didn't know. Ashley Ashley does the booking for Riverside Terrace. That's why I called her. >> Oh, >> she does the booking for both of them. >> Does she do the booking for both? I think Dana does more of the government. >> Yeah, it's Dana does the government.
>> I ain't calling Todd. >> I'm answering. >> I think you got to be right. She's not going to hold evening meetings. >> I think it should be evening though. So maybe we should go out and go ahead and schedule it and then we'll chase if we have to. So June 8th, 6 PM at the clearing
as of now. >> Oh, I'm calling Dana right now to see if it's available at the government center. >> Hey Dana, Steve Heining calling. So June Hi, June 8th at six o'clock is a government center event.
They got quilters, >> master gardener. >> Okay. The community room is available for June 8th. >> Let's do that. >> Let's just do that. >> Just book it. >> Okay. Can you book that for Benton County? >> Uh, he didn't
>> from 5 5:00 till who knows when we're going to be done. It's going to be a Benton County ditch meeting. >> I have a book for the 16th. >> Oh, okay. Then you can take care of >> the 16th. We have to cancel that though. >> That's for the Riverside Paris. >> Yeah. >> Yep. We're going to cancel that one and
then we're going to move that >> that's that is a for sure cancellation because none of us can make it that night. So that's So we'll do it June 8th. from 5 till whenever at the community center. Yep. Well, just from
5:00 in the afternoon till whenever. Correct. Yep. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> And June. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Bye. Okay. We're scheduled for June 8th.
>> 6 o'clock. Doors open at f or we have it at five. >> Yeah. >> And she's gonna cancel the June 18th >> clearing too. >> 16th >> or 16th whatever it was. >> So we need a motion to approve it for the June >> 8th 6 p.m.
>> Okay. A motion a second. All those in favor? Do we need a roll call on this? >> No. >> Um I'd say yes cuz the order the order is here. >> Yeah. The orders got us listed separately. Want to call the roll, please? >> Commissioner Benoy. >> Yep. Commissioner Pop. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Heinen.
>> Hi. >> Commissioner Johnson. >> Hi. >> Commissioner Kapinsky. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> I don't see it. >> I'm on the >> She's right there. >> Oh, right there. >> Sorry. This was This is Rinky's work.
>> Oh, blame John Cold. Yeah. >> All right. Uh, drainage DB discussion. Adam, >> just one last thing regarding the the hearing. Um, I do have to confirm that uh Rinky Nunan and also Joe Lewis can attend on the ETH. I let them know prior
that the 16th and they were going to have Kayla attend on the 16th because John couldn't. >> Okay. >> Um, and then Joe Lewis stated. So, I'll have I'll call them after this and then I'll just send an email to you all confirming if >> Okay. >> Hopefully it works. >> Hopefully. >> Mhm. >> Mr. Chair,
>> I just like I said, I I I get that they're going to come out with this. I love getting letters and note notes from people, but these here are not fun. >> No. >> And I'm after reading that today, I I can tell you I'm a little disengaged right now.
>> What do you think? Figure this means this last line. >> Do you know what the last line means? >> I I was going to Google it, but I didn't have time yet. >> Okay, so
Anyway, >> all right. So, yeah, we'll wait to hear from that. Hopefully, things work out. If not, I don't know. Can we beg and plead if we have to go beyond the 30-day window? >> Yeah, I'll call them right after, like I stated, and >> see what our options are in case we
can't get the date to work. All right, DB discussion. >> All right. Um, one thing I wanted to bring up is we have a software program called Drainage DB for all our ditches. Um, it's with Houston Engineering and
it's basically from what I understand it's a it's a GIS program that you can go in like I could go in and put an inspection or something needs a repair. Um, I can also put you know documents on there as well. Um and
a lot of whoever some counties put this on their websites so um the residents can view easily on their ditch and see what kind of repairs are being done and inspections. Um the issue I I don't know the issue I
have is I don't know if it's worth it right now. Um any inspections I do I already put on our county website. I have a YouTube channel for Benton County ditches. So any inspections I already have are are out there to the public. Um
any internal or we I also have act the the reason this sorry I'm going to backtrack here. The reason this kind of came to be is our last county engineer used this. Um so if a if a resident came in he could easily boot up their parcel and then see
their benefits on drainage DB. Um I have now have access to the internal GIS that we have in the county. So, I'm able to do that at no cost already. And that's basically all our county engineer was using it for was to locate properties.
Um, like I said, I don't I I I've took a lot of GIS classes in college, so I know how to work our our internal software, so I have no issue doing it myself with the help of Scott Zick, our GIS person. Um, and this does cost $4,000 annually
and that was split evenly across all um all the county ditches. Um, so my I guess my request to you is, you know, discussion on if you guys think it's worthy to keep or if
if what I already do internally is is enough. >> I guess from my perspective, I think what you're doing is already way above what we ever did before. And if you're able to manage it yourself, great. Um, what about is this something we've already paid for 26? Is it something we get a partial credit on? How does this
work? >> Yeah, I I was going to bring this in front of you before I brought this to Houston Engineering just just to see. Um, I was looking at the pass invoices and it looked like we paid last August or not. Yeah, last August. >> We're probably paid till August.
>> Yeah. So, um, even if it's, you know, hopefully we could do partial credit if we if we had to pay already or whatever. >> Or if nothing else, just deny the renewal. >> Just, yeah, leave it go till August and then forget the renewal. >> Yeah, like I stated, I if anyone has any
requests for, you know, uh, news publications or any of that, um, I can send that to them personally. I don't think having a big data database online is is is necessary. Well, and and Adam, obviously you know this, but we had nothing in place before and it was
something for Chris to be able to >> grasp. Now that we have you, >> doesn't sound like we need it. Do we need a motion for this or just consensus? >> I think >> Okay, we have consensus to discontinue the next invoicing. >> Just as long as he doesn't go anywhere either.
>> On condition. That's right. Yeah, >> we're going to put a the GIS is pretty easy >> and I assume all that information is on the county network stuff you're talking about. >> Correct. It's I got it. So, basically what drainage DB is, it it takes our GIS
and then puts it on a on a web page so people can view it. Um, which so it it isn't going anywhere. We have it. >> Christine, any comments, concerns, questions about it? >> I have access to it. I've never used it. >> Okay.
>> My recollection when Chris brought this to you is that it was a great product for a county with many many many ditch systems and a lot to manage, you know, like was it Otter had like 60, >> you know, so I it probably was a little bit more than we actually needed.
>> So, you've got consensus to discontinue it. >> All right. I will contact Houston and and then see what see when we >> discontinue Houston, too. >> That's a future discussion I think we're going to have. Keep bringing that one up for a bit. >> All right. And then Betty, uh, ditch
updates. >> Yeah. So, I got quite a few ditch updates here for you. Obviously, I I didn't I haven't been to a meeting in a in a month or so, so I got a few things just to kind of discuss with you so you guys are all aware. Um, just letting you
know that I do plan to do inspe inspections on all county ditches this year. I know state statute is you have to inspect all of them every five years. Um, since we have so few ditches, I and since they're such a hot topic right now, I try to inspect them yearly. Um,
that's what I did last year. Um, I inspected 9 and 14 twice last year, but but but yeah, so so far I've done CD3, 5, and 12. Um, I did notice on my inspections that CD5
and 12, um, they do have a tree issue. There's a lot of trees growing even in the center of the ditch channel. Um >> well in CD12 we have a valid petition on, don't we? >> Right. >> Yes. Um and so 12 obviously that any
tree removal would probably wait until we did a an engineer report on it and that would probably be part of the repair if that was was chosen. Um CD5 um it's majority fine. Um CD5 is the one um kind of west of the public works
building and all those fields out there. Then it connects to Stonybrook over over by Casey's over here. Um that's that doesn't have a lot of trees except for the ending. Um the end of it goes kind of behind Henry's Henry's Catering over there and then it travels east and then
southeast into Stonybrook. Um, I've had discussions with the land owner that owns a majority of that land and they they would prefer it to stay a wooded area. Um, and so any discussions regarding tree removal on CD5, we would
probably have to do a, you know, either a public hearing or just a discussion at one. >> How about we bring that up at our annual meeting in August? >> Yeah. >> Ask them what they want to do. >> That's fair. I would I will tell them to to I think they were at the last meeting
I believe if I remember correctly but I'll tell them to um attend this one as well. >> Is that Mr. Lateral? >> No. Um her name is uh Gail Gail Folk I believe. I think she recently purchased it maybe a few years ago.
>> Okay. >> Um so yeah that >> Okay. >> Um >> Mr. chair. >> I don't know. Uh like go out and do CD six or six this year. Um we have to be a
little cognitive about how many times we view them ditches. You know, it says every five years. I think we need to go to three. I don't believe that we should be spending their money and I think it'll come back to haunt us if we continually build a ditch for the maintenance of go just going out to view them. I don't I don't think from a year
if we do maintenance this year, there's no reason to be out there next year and doing a viewing again. >> I do just >> Yeah, we may find somebody that is crossing the ditch or put a culvert in or whatever, but I think on a three-year deal, I just that seems a little over
>> once they've been repaired. Yeah, once they've been repaired and we're up to date, I think we need to back off on that because, you know, if somebody gets into it to the ditch real that's really into the ditch, like you go out and do CD6 again and some of these people say, "Well, you just did were out there and viewed it and mowed it and you already
were out there and you're charging us, even if it's 200 bucks, you're charging 200 bucks and there's nothing wrong with the ditch." I I think a threeyear is fine. I don't believe we need to do it every year. I think those buffers need to be maintained or else we're going to be
>> Yeah. But even if if things grow like you know you can be after soil and water was after me you can nothing grows in a year you maybe get this much deal if you do two years it's still removable at a very minimum cost. I beg to differ. The
township just came down our road last year and completely took out um with a brush hog all of the trees that were grown into the to the the rightway. >> Mhm. >> The brush is this high and this was just last fall.
>> Wow. That's I'd look at who did it if I was a chip then because >> I don't think that really matters. >> You're talking about You're talking about the growth. You're talking the growth. I I just don't see it that we're spending other people's money >> to go out and review the ditches every
year. >> So, Mr. Chair, what I'm kind of hearing from Commissioner Pop is that it's three years or until somebody complains about it, right? >> Well, I think the requirements every five is the >> require. I do want to know that my inspections are roughly like 15 hours
for each ditch. It's the actual drone inspection and then it's editing the videos to put on YouTube. Um, so obviously like or Commissioner Pop said that any money is is is money, but it is at least to me very minimal time. >> It sure would be nice to have this
documentation that we can show the people that listen, here's last year, here's this year, here's the year before, you know what I mean? Yes, it cost money, but man, I we've gotten mutilated, right? And
>> but this is from years and years and years, you know, like I don't know. I just >> But once you repair them, if you don't keep up on >> Oh, I totally agree. >> Like ditch ditch three is by me. >> Mhm. >> That looks horrible. >> Yeah, it does. I I agree with you. >> That's been three years.
>> Yeah, that's absolutely I I cannot believe that we're going to end up doing some kind of repair on that again. >> Correct. >> Well, that's out for quotes, too. Well, that to your point that but this is the balancing act. You know, at the beginning we talked about
the first couple years are going to be hard, >> correct? >> And then hopefully we get to a spot where some of these land owners are doing some of that maintenance in the buffers for us. >> The problem is is we can't please everybody. We got 50% on this side and 50% on that side. >> You're going to see that on CD10. You're
going to see it on 12 video. >> There's a guy on 12 that wants to petition out and he's on the system. like it runs through his property. >> He wants to petition >> out. So >> yeah, I've been working with a landowner
on CD12 that asked for a petition of abandonment of the entire system. Um so I told him all the legality behind it. You know, he's got to get certain amount of percentage of people to petition with him and and I haven't heard anything from him. you
you know >> well and the other thing is I I'm surprised at this point that the petitioner for 12's repair has been as patient as he's been as that's probably two plus years ago that he filed that and I can't imagine he's going to want
to wait forever because he thinks it should be repaired that's why he filed the petition so that's coming >> anyways >> so regarding inspections um >> so you say approximately 15 hours per
ditch. >> Yeah, obviously um if it's a small ditch like three is, you know, it's >> six hours give or take. Um I'm getting better at the video editing, so it takes me less and less time each time I do it. >> Um >> so in that case, we're probably under
$500 spread to the system. >> Yeah. And so obviously, you know, when 9 and 14 were, you know, repaired recently and I think the inspections were pretty beneficial to see, you know, that that erosion that happened right after that. >> Um, but regarding Commissioner Pop's
comment, you know, you got a, you know, CD6 that was repaired a few years ago, if if the inspections start showing that the ditch is, you know, performing adequately, then maybe I I would suggest that moving those to, you know, a bianual or every three years type of
thing. But um >> that yeah that was my point that and that's the Pacific ditch that >> you know you're going to hear comment on if we're going to build them again. They're going to say like okay the ditch is operating really well and we don't see anything wrong in the country but yet you're out there and inspecting it. Why?
>> Because it's the ditch authorities's job to inspect it. >> Well I'm going to go back and say once every five years. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You know, I guess I >> You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. And And you're going to There going to be people we wait three or five years ago, you
idiots. >> Mhm. >> You guys should have been doing this every year. >> That's right. We'll be getting the same letters that we have right here. >> Either Either way, we're going to be getting these either way. >> Yeah. >> Because of something that wasn't done in the past.
>> Yeah. So maybe maybe now I I I'll do whatever you know inspections that you guys inspect or want me to do. Obviously you guys get most of the heat regarding these ditches. So >> I'm going to tell you right now and I've been asking around. >> There's very few boards that are the
ditch authority board. It's water and soil and I'm at that point. >> They won't take it on. >> Well, >> we had that conversation with them and they >> and then we take away their money. I don't know. I mean, I'm getting Why are we the ones getting completely mutilated
when we're we're doing a job that I never signed on to do when I thought I was a commissioner. >> Nobody did. >> I didn't know they existed when I >> And to get these letters when we got to follow statutes that are above our head.
>> Yeah. Very frustrating. I don't know how many counties are. >> We are we are in the bottom bottom percentage of >> You think so? >> Yes. 100%. >> I I did have conversations with Max County um soil and water and they stated
that they just went they just took over the county. Um, and so they were asking me how to how to kind of go about things and information regarding that because like they said they they never had never took part in it before and now it kind
of got dropped on their plate or they agreed to it. But >> So did you ask how it got dropped on their plate so we can figure out how to do it? >> Uh, basically from what I heard is the county um gave them a amount of money that >> ultimatum.
>> Yeah. the I think the county gave them a lot of money and they couldn't really say no to it. >> Well, you know, I I'll tell you, it's getting old getting these these letters and and you can't even read them, >> but you know, they're threatful, >> right?
>> You know, and there's nothing we can do. These aren't our ditches. we have to manage them, >> you know, and and and I I agree with you. Maybe every five years, but then you're going to get the people that send more of these letters saying how stupid
we are that we're not doing it every two years. We can't please everybody and we can't pay for these ditches. I I maybe tend to differ on the on the time frame because the people that have suggested why we you know do it every
are rep people that are not going to send a letter like that that are doing a lot of farming on that ditch and they say that's great. They love what we did. They didn't like the bill that we got but please, you know, keep it keep the maintenance at a minimum.
>> And I'm glad I'm glad to hear that. I wish they'd come in here and tell us. They won't because they're, you know. >> Yeah. >> And you know, a couple of them paid a large sum of money to >> get that done. >> Well, and I go ahead, Christine. >> We talked to the one on was that Thursday? >> Yep. CD10.
>> On CD10 and >> Yeah, you ran me right over on that one. I did. Thanks for the reminder that >> I'm there to pay my property taxes standing behind this very nice couple. And we were talking to our auditor, treasurer about CD10 repair. >> And all of a sudden, she looks through them and she says, "Why don't you talk
to that guy right there?" >> I'm like, "Ah." I had my glasses on. I don't think I had a hat on, but I came in to not be seen. >> Put it on backwards. Maybe update.
>> But I had a very cordial discussion with them. Probably what, 20 minutes. >> Yeah. And they're adamant. They want it done. >> They're not the petitioner. And >> they're not the petition. >> Basically, the question is, what have you been waiting on? >> Yeah. >> Wait till they get the bill.
>> I know that's the problem. >> I know. >> Once that train is down the tracks, there's no bringing it back. >> Well, I think we have to realize even after this public hearing, we're not forced to make a decision that night. You know, we're going to take public testimony. You can you can continue the
public hearing if we need to. We really don't know what's coming. I think sometimes we get backed in the corner. We got to decide if we got to repair this thing or not tonight. >> I think it's just something to keep in mind. M >> Mr. Chair, if I could make a comment.
So, Adam, in ditch 10 uh where it's on four, there's a a secondary culvert that goes right into that ditch from the landowner to the uh east. Is that is that legal or not? Because I see that all the time and it's
a little higher than the existing drainage culvert. >> Yeah. So, there is a process that they would have to go through if you connect to a county ditch. Um, we have uh kind of like petitions and applications on
our website for people to fill out. Um, regarding that that one, I doubt it was ever documented in the county. I dou I don't know if any if rarely any of these were ever documented throughout the last hundred years.
>> So what so what happens at that point in time though because I mean being the water's so low in ditch 10 right now the cover just sticks out. So if you go home on four you can see the cover it's like oh when did that go in there you know? >> Yeah. I don't know. I would have to ask
our legal um team but I just think it's kind of grandfathered in to an extent. >> Okay. Um, obviously it's their private ditch. Um, if if the culvert was sitting in the center of of the ditch channel, I do think we would have some more merit
to say something about it. But if it's, you know, an offshoot of a private ditch and then connecting to it, um, I would have to contact our legal team regarding that. >> I was just asking the question because apparently you seen it too when you went out there. >> Yeah, it is. I mean, it's a good thing
that CDN is is very low. Obviously the that shows that the removing of the beaver dams did did help because before that you know you couldn't even see the ditch channel and now you can actually see the the sides of the ditch channel which which helped. >> All right, back to your report about I
think you made the comment did you make the comment that you plan on inspecting each one each year or you're throwing some out that you're going to inspect? No, I like I I inspected all of them last year because, you know, it's never been really done before. And so I was suggesting, you know, until we get these
ditches up and running and and to the to the spot where we want these ditches to be, I was planning to continue inspecting every single ditch yearly. Um, but obviously if that's not what what the drainage authority wants, then we can figure something else out, too.
Maybe per ditch or or whatnot. Um obviously we want um you know we don't want the maintenance to be so high and I think inspecting yearly keeps the maintenance low so we so these problems don't become bigger in the end but >> so commissioner go ahead.
>> So I guess my point to this is that to some degree we need to trust Adam's judgment on this also and until the ditch is established to the point where he thinks okay now we can go to an every
three year or even maybe an every four year or maybe even every 5 year once the ditch is completely established but I said until that time we need to trust that what he's doing these yearly inspections on it is to make sure that
we're maintaining what we already fixed >> I mean that's I mean >> to to piggyback off what you just said and add I 100% agree with you. I'd like to go every 5 years and save the money. I really would. But I think these yearly deals at like like what Commissioner
Benoy said show how the ditch changes every year, you know, and it's like cuz look at look at where we are on three right now. We both say, "Oh my god." And you can see it right from the road. >> You can. >> It's horrible. So, you know, Christie,
>> I think maybe having a plan like we're going to do it every year for the first five years so that because I get the phone calls, how is this going to be every year? Am I going to be paying this every year? So, I have to answer all those calls and at the counter, you know, and it'd be nice to have a correct
answer to tell them. I've just been telling them that it's been being reassessed at the annual meeting in August. And >> well, I mean, does it does it make sense to go back to kind of our original discussion that once it's been repaired, it will be inspected for the first three
years? >> Oh, definitely. I think that >> then you come back and say >> then you can back it off. Yeah. >> Because I think the three-year timeline's a good timeline to establish that ditch hopefully. >> Right. >> And those buffers. >> Correct. And then maybe we move to a
every two or three or five. I don't know. >> Because we need the >> But I would say every ditch will be set different. >> It will be different. >> Six might not need it every >> right >> two years. >> It depends on the people along the ditch too. >> Absolutely. >> Beavers. >> Beavers on tear. >> I mean, you never know. I mean, all of a
sudden they come in, they can tear up a whole area in one year. >> So, we've got to weigh that the cost with that responsibility to maintain. you know, when you when you maintain the ditch system. I mean, we've got two years to where the ground has to
stabilize anyway, >> you know, for growth and everything too. >> Well, and I and by no means do I mean to minimize the cost, but if it's indeed roughly $500 a system split amongst all those parcels, it probably won't even see it.
>> It will be part of the maintenance assessment. Absolutely. And I think it's okay to say we're going to it's going to cost roughly x number of dollars to inspect each year. >> I I can inspect six this year and and
then make, you know, maybe that determination. If if it does look, you know, good and there's no issues with it, then, you know, maybe we can like you like Commissioner Johnson just stated, you know, a per ditch basis on inspection schedules. Y
>> well and I would trust that you would come back to us with a recommendation if you felt we were to that point of where there you know is no more erosion happening there's buffers are established washing it way into that and that the buffer zones are established I
would expect that you'd come back to this board and say okay now we're sitting in a good spot where we can go to maybe every three years >> so Mr. chair at that point in time after 3 years do we just let the farmers take
care of >> the soils you know the weeds and and everything from that >> some will some because at that point in time then >> we're going to have to look at it >> we will it's going to be an ongoing thing >> it will be
>> well statue says we got to do look at them every five years >> yeah but we know we have to look at it every year for the first three years because of the banks >> you and to get the buffer stab. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> And there again, some systems the farmers or land owners are going to help
way more than the next system. >> There's going to be systems out there. Nobody's going to be doing it on three. >> No. >> You know, >> no. >> So, I think it also depends on on what type of uh maintenance you guys want to um do for the ditch. Obviously, a mowing
like Commissioner Bonoy just stated that you can brush hog it and then it's back up the next year. Um and so obviously we might have to go looking into um spraying it which you know is is more expensive usually um but it could last you know three three years.
>> Mhm. >> Um so that's something we'll have to discuss at future meetings as well. >> I think it's important to really hone down and check each individual ditch is going to be. We I don't think we can make a blanket statement. >> No. >> So
>> what else got something else? >> Mr. Chair, thinking about what Commissioner Kapinsky all said, I if we are going to go to that route of spraying, we're going to have a professional company do it, correct? Instead of our employees because I don't want to put our employees on the spot of
getting brutalized like we do. >> No, it would have to get contracted out, I'm sure. >> All right. What else you got, Adam? >> Um, I was just number one, so we're number two now. Um, Cars Tree Service, you guys awarded them um, regarding the CD9 and 14 mowing of the buffer strips
this year. Um, I've been in contact with them. Um, they're still working on getting on their schedule, but they are for sure still going to do it in 2026. There is just not a set date for that mowing yet. Um, but just letting you know that it's it's not been forgotten about. It it will happen.
Um, there's no questions on that. Um, I did put a request for quotes out for CD3, tree and brush removal. As I've stated at previous meetings, um, when CD3 was repaired, only one side of the buffer strip was removed of trees and vegetation. Um, and I was looking to get
the other side, you know, removed of tree and brush. Um, we talked about XL planning to cut their trees under their power lines and that's um, still I talked with them again and they said that they would plan to remove them um, when a contractor is out there. So it'
be kind of simultaneously doing that. Um, the RFQ deadline is in a couple weeks, May 29th. Um, so I will be looking at those and then I'll bring I'll bring that in front of the board for approval. Um, like I stated before,
this is an area, this is also part of my job regarding the environmental impacts. Um, there this is in the northern long-eared bat population hotspot area. Um, and you can Yeah.
>> And so, so, um, I know we have this issue on some of our roads. Um, the trees can only be removed during the winter months. So, I think it's like November 1st to to March 1st or March 31st or something like that. Um, so yes,
I I will be getting the quotes here in at the end of May, but the work will have to be >> Thanks, >> delayed till the winter months. >> Can't we spray for them? >> Well, >> you're saying I ask for forgiveness and not permission. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean, I do know a lot of contractors prefer to remove trees in the winter anyway because the ground's hard and, you know, it's easier to remove them. >> Sure. >> Um, but just just wanted to make sure not to not to disturb the DNR or
anything like that. So, that should be good. Um, the fourth, um, I just wanted to just remind everybody that the August 17th special annual meeting at 6 p.m. is still planned. plan that for the Foley
auditorium like we did last year. Um and then John Cobb did state that he would attend that meeting. Um so just confirming that we're still having that special annual ditch assessment meeting and then I'll be working with Christine to send out a notice again, a postcard.
I think we all agreed on that. I think it was only like $380 for postcards last year. Um and so we'll probably send that out beginning of July again. I have to move >> for a couple minutes. I'm sorry. >> All right.
>> So, July 7th, we Christine and I will get those postcards out again. Um, and we all agreed that that was probably the best course of action to get as much people there as possible. >> Yep. Go ahead. >> Just thinking back to when we were
trying to plan that June one. So, are you telling us that in August we should come in shorts and short sleeve shirts in the auditorium because there's going to be no AC. >> Yeah. So, I did when I when I c when I asked the the Foley auditorium, I did
confirm with them and they did state that there would be AC by August. >> Um, and so I'm guessing it's just kind of a >> because last year was absolutely miserable. So, I just want to make sure that we're dressed for the occasion if there's not
>> no blaze arms long this year. Commissioner Kapensky, >> prior prior to July 7th when we send out those postcards on green, >> I will confirm with the auditorium just to make sure that the construction is is complete by then. >> Okay.
>> All right. >> Ditches. >> Um, number five is kind of something the ditch subcommittee meeting we kind of discussed about. Um, we understand that, you know, land owners at the end of six and 7 have issues because Mayhew Creek
is so backed up. Um, six and seven both outlet straight into Mayhew Creek. Um, and we're trying to figure out >> kind of how to how to go about that. Um, so I've been kind of working with Rinky
Nunan and Houston Engineering to kind of decide since May Creek is a public water, there's not a whole lot we can do. Um, but Rinky Nunan did state that we can do kind of general maintenance on Mayhew Creek as long as the the land owners are
okay with it. Um, this general maintenance is just kind of tree removal and and stuff like that out of the actual channel of the creek. Um, it wouldn't be any sediment removal. If we do any sediment removal, we would have to go through the DNR and get get
permits like that. So, >> and so we'll be working, you know, I'll be working with land owners cuz obviously if we clean one parcel of of trees, then the next parcel will will then get the water. So, it basically has
to be a consensus between uh the outlets of six and seven all the way down to Mayhew Lake, which is like roughly like a mile or two, I think, or so. Um, so this is in the works. Um, nothing is really planned right now. I'm just kind
of letting giving a heads up that we've had issues with outlet on CD7. And >> I got a question. So if we go can go in there and do some minor repairs on Mayhe Creek, that'll be assessed to do six and seven then.
>> Yes, I from what I understand from Rick and Nunan, that is what would happen because it would be benefiting both six and seven. Um so yeah, those costs would be split split across >> Mike and Frank. Frank
>> hands. >> You know, you hate to laugh about it, but we got no >> we got I don't know. >> Go ahead, Adam. >> Oh,
>> go ahead. I mean, I know things have done been done been done been done been done to Megan Creek in the past, but back when I sat on the township board, we have a couple of bridges that run through Mind. Um, and we've had a contractor come out and pull
trees out as Minden Township >> um just so that it opens up those bridges and water flows. Um, >> but my guess you didn't charge it back to the people. >> No, >> you paid it under mind. Yeah, >> it went under rope and bridge
>> which in all honesty if you read the law that might have been not good >> illegal. Yeah, >> that was illegal because you're taking you're taking other people's taxpaying money and paying for something they may not be benefiting from.
>> No benefit whatsoever to >> Yeah. But we would have never known that back then unless we were in the ditch authority. True. >> You guys would have never known it because you didn't know. >> It just seemed like the right thing to do. >> Right thing to do. Common sense. >> Common sense. Yeah.
>> Yeah. But we as a county did the same thing too on some of these and everything too before all this. >> All right. So, we'll wait to hear on those items. >> Yeah. I'll have to be in contact with
either the land owners or I'm not really exactly sure how I'm going to go about it yet, but just see if we can get a consensus from those south of of CD7. Um, I guess a big issue is the people who are on Mayhew Creek,
the land owners aren't technic they're not all benefiting of six and seven and so we'd be doing work on their property but not charging >> those people. >> Mhm. >> So, >> but that's because it's a public waterway versus a county drainage
system. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah. Um, last thing here. Um, this has kind of been going around for the past year or two or so. Um, the landowner on CD10, um, Gary Grundall, um, he's been requesting, um, cutting a
swale in the spoil piles that were created, um, from the CD9 repair. >> Um, swelailes were not done when those repairs were done for some reason. They, as far as I can tell, they were not paid to be cutting swailes
in. Um but now we have um these spoil piles along the along the banks and or in the buffer strips and it's makes it so water can't flow into the ditch. Now >> um
>> so when this is why I say inspections are very you know >> motion to adjurnn. >> This is the only complaint that I've had at least to me for spoil piles. Um,
but obviously this is a ditch related issue. >> Um, so >> Mr. Chair, Adam, do we know why they weren't taken care of? Um, this repair was done when I was not here and there's not really I've tried to look back at the repair reports to
see, you know, our last engineer stated that he thought what was in there was um, you know, a spot in there that says ditch swailes must be cut every, you know, 100 ft. And nowhere in the repair report is I I can't find any language
that states that. >> Is that Houston engineering? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Hence new engineer. >> Yeah. >> And so, um, Helman obviously was the one who did it. So, they were the just following the the report. >> Um,
>> which to my point, if we get to a repair report again and really going to massage through it, we better massage through it for things like this. And now we've got somebody who can help >> check that stuff along with communicating with these land owners because that was another big thing we heard. We just went in there and did it.
>> He's a great communicator, too. Yeah. >> Yeah. Anyways, >> so yeah, um I guess my question to you all is um I've been in contact with him a few months ago, Gary Grundall. Um and he stated he wanted me to go out there
with him and kind of flag the area where he wants a a swale cut in so his his property can drain. Um my question to you all is um is how would you like me to go about that or who would you like me to ask? Can we have our county go out there and
and make a little swale with some of our equipment? >> Well, as long as you talk to Mr. Gundle, I think you're fine. But he >> he knows better than anybody where he needs to be cut because he wants drainage. >> That's Yeah. >> And he's on and he's the only one right now. >> Yeah.
>> And I mean, the same thing happened on if you've done ditch seven, >> them uh spoil piles were never removed. And there's people went out there and did that themselves and that's that was when they ran they ran out of money so they didn't remove the piles.
>> This was a case of the buffers were done but no swailes cut in. >> Yeah, I can contact our our maintenance superintendent and and see um >> Have you met Gary out there yet to see what he's talking about? No, I called him when it was still there was still
snow on the ground and I told him that I we would or I would meet with him sometime in the spring here. So, >> it might behoove him and Mark to just go out there and take a look at that way kill two birds with one stone here. >> Is he willing to cut the swale himself?
>> Um Gary Grundall or or I am I don't think so. I think he thinks this is a >> it's a problem >> which it is. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I don't think he he is willing to do it himself unless he got monetary value out of it. I'm guessing
>> I don't think I mean his perspective is probably I'm not paying for it either. >> Meaning yeah I'm meaning I'm not paying for it and I'm not paying it through the ditch either. >> That's that's what I'm saying. If if it's a a day deal, maybe we have our own county go out there and get it done with
and do what Menon did. You know what I mean? Common sense. >> Makes common sense. >> Yeah. Just get it done and and just see. >> Well, let's see. Let's talk again after you've met with Gary and Mark. >> All right. >> I And to Commissioner Pinsky's point, I
think that makes sense. If if Mark's willing to go out with you, just go out and do it all at once. >> Yeah. >> See See what it's really going to take. It might be a skid loader cut in there. Right. >> All right. >> Anything else? >> Um I think that's it for updates.
Um, I don't think I have anything else. So, >> members, anything? >> Thanks, Adam, for what you're doing. >> Thank you. Yeah, appreciate it. All right. >> Uh, Mr. Chair, Adam, do you get beat up too when you go out and meet with these land owners? >> I mean, or has it been pretty cordial?
>> You know, it kind of starts hot and heavy because this is people's obviously money we're talking about, and we all know money's tight. Um, but as soon as you kind of connect with them and, you know, a one-on-one, you kind of understand them, it it gets pretty >> um,
>> pretty cordial after that. Phone calls are obviously a different story. Um, you're not one-on, so, you know, people are more obliged to maybe say more things they don't necessarily mean, but, um, it is what it is. It's it's part of
the job. Obviously, you guys all know that. But >> yeah, >> hopefully after, you know, a few years once we get everything kind of set in stone here and everything where we we're not doing $500,000 repairs, we're doing, you know, maybe $10,000 maintenance a year.
>> Hopefully then it'll it'll calm down. We just we're just not there yet. >> Thank you. I just hope so it does, too. >> All right. With that, we're journ back to the board chair for county board. >> We'll reconvene the regular county board meeting. Uh let's just go into uh set
committee of the holes. >> Just one, Mr. Chair, the AMC District 5 meeting is Monday, June 8th from 8 to noon at the Cambridge Public Library in in Santi County. That's Monday, June 8th, 8 to noon, Cambridge Public
Library. >> So, we got one in the morning, one in the evening. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And just Yeah. to to note tonight uh uh our committee the whole begins at 6. It's posted for 6. So you're welcome to join the library board meeting at 6, but
they tell us they will not get to our issue until about 7 about 7. But you're welcome, of course, to join the mean at 6. >> So the meeting starts at 6. >> The board meeting starts at 6. And they're going to adjourn >> the board recess
>> recess the board meeting and go to >> work session. >> Work session. >> Yeah. at seven. At seven, what is the purpose of that? I just >> We have uh there is a motion and a second that's already been through another meeting that discussed this and
was passed that it would be the Foley Library that maintains the cuts. So, we can't open it up in there. We'd have to go back and reassess the motion or get somebody to reconsider the motion.
So on the prevailing side has to make a motion to reconsider. The prevailing side has to make the motion, right? Yeah. Right. >> No, but what's the difference between a work s I mean why why do you have to reconvene to go to a work session >> recess to go to
>> that's what I don't understand. >> We can't take any action on the you know not have any discussion on a motion that's already been passed and voted on. I don't I'm not sure why they chose the work session route. I I'm not sure. I didn't get that from >> and that was it was that was the
commissioners from other firms. That was >> Yeah. Okay. So So in general So I have another meeting at 5 that's going to last at until 6. So I don't have to worry about getting to the library till 7 then, right? Or 4 to 7 >> because do you have a set time? Okay.
>> That's Bry's estimate of when they'll get to this issue is seven. Yeah. So otherwise just need a committee. We need a motion to set the AMC district 5 meeting. >> Okay, I got a motion. I second. Any more discussion? All in favor say I. >> I post. Motion carries. Journ.