e e e ALG to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one under God indivisible with liy and justice for all roll call Beth sure commissioner
Beno here commissioner Heinen he will be here later he let me know sounds good commissioner pop present commissioner Johnson here commissioner ginsky here approve or amend the agenda any additions Corrections Mr chair two
additions uh the first would be consent item number nine application for consumption and display permit from the audited Treasures Office that's consent agenda item number
nine and then uh the other item is discuss the stot airport and Sheriff's Office jail operations if we could add that uh as the first item at 10:15 County Administrator please first item at 10:15 would say airport uh St CL
airport and Sheriff's Office jail operations move for approval of the amended agenda Mr chair second motion's been made in second to approve the agenda with the added items is there anything else all in favor I I
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please um turn your cell phones to vibrate thank you open form no one okay thanks consent agendas 1 through n what's your wishes move approval I'll
second motion been made and and seconded for agenda items 1 through nine all in favor I oppose carried Monty endley well Mr chair we invited our our lobbyist from Mar hop and Mr grd har har
to join us this morning uh for a brief legislative update I know uh Grady has another mean he's got to get to so that's why we had him first on your agenda so gr I'll turn it over to you perhaps to give us maybe the big picture of the legislature and then if you could also kind of give us an update on the
specific uh legislative initiatives that Benton County is pursuing thank you excellent thank you Monty and Mr chair and Commissioners and it's an honor to be working with Bon County at the Capitol and helping you bring your
voice uh to legislators um quick update from St Paul um as you know the beginning of session started out um in ties and it was unprecedented Turf I think it only happened once in
1979 uh before um we are currently in a one seat um Democrat Le Senate um the house is currently um we have they elected a republican speaker of the house uh speaker Lisa
Damon um who will be speaker until a special election occurs um or actually she will be speaker for two years now that she was elected in this agreement that they came up with um there's a special election on March 11th um and
then will be very likely that the house will go into a power sharing agreement um with a Republican chair of each committee and a Democrat chair of each committee um so it's interest interesting times of the capital um but
I think a positive thing um is that most any bill that that moves forward this session will need to have bipartisan support um so with that uh we uh are working hard for for Benton County on two major initiatives uh one being the
highway one project and another being the um tax uh exemption for construction material for the new government center um had a delegation from the county and we thank the Commissioners that participated um and met with every uh
member of the Benton County delegation um additionally and this was on February 13th additionally uh we met were able to meet with uh Senate Transportation uh Republican lead uh
Senator jinsky as well as the chair of the bonding committee and the Senate uh Senator papis um and had good discussions on how important Highway one is for for Bon County getting something done this session
um in our meetings with with members uh we we raise again the Bon County project and the asked for $21 million um the tax exemption and then we also um voed the support of the board for the avivo homeless shter project um
that that is being looked at um very productive meetings um I think we heard honest feedback from the delegation um that while a bonding bill um there is a lot of appetite to getting something
done because of the political landscape and it requires a super majority um they weren't sure that the number one priority this session uh was passing a budget uh which they need to do um by the end of session um if not the
governor will need to call a special election um and they'll have to get that pass first and so we're hoping that that can um once we get the result of the special election um towards the end of
March it'll be certified and then uh the Committees can continue their work and we can move forward and get the budget in order and uh move forward with a bonding bill um one thing of note in our meeting with uh Senator papis was that
she mentioned that she has about $790 million for bonding projects this year with an expected another 1 billion next year um and she was hoping uh to be able to get one done um and bring on the
required votes uh to make up a super majority to pass it this year so we'll continue to work very hard for Benton County and update you all on our progress um we have a hearing set for Thursday in the Senate tax committee on
um our tax exemption bill um and all bills for our projects have been introduced in both bodies with that I will open it up for any questions and go from there anybody got any questions anybody M Mr chair if
I could just a comment um first of all thank you Grady you you basically held my hand during that whole day it was a long day a lot of steps in I really appreciate the guidance I thought it was an excellent day of meeting multiple legislators so really appreciate that we could tell at least I could tell when
we're walking through the different offices a lot of legislators down there hey Grady how you doing hey Grady what's up hey grd so that was a really good sign and a good thing and I just want to tell you that I appreciated the opportunity to spend the day with you it was a great learning experience um and I
think we had a lot of great discussions that day so thank you Mr chair yes I'd like to say the same thing Grady thank you for uh showing us around and uh having the opportunity to meet with the legislators Mr chair Commissioners thank
you very much and uh I think it it's those little moments every day that you have the ability to interact uh with legislators and build those relationships that helps uh get the projects done so we will continue to be uh knocking on all doors great okay
anything else all right thank you uh thank you Commissioners for going down it was a great day thank you okay I think I'll be joining them I'm trying
to oh we're missing Tim morning good morning um just to give you a little little background uh Kora is a newer sergeant and Kayla is a detention
officer who fills in when we don't have a sergeant on which is called a shift lead uh Corin Kayla they were working on the same shift and we fill out what's called a pay to stay when the inmate is done with their um time in our jail it recoups some of the cost we charge them
$25 a day to sit in our jail when they're sentenced um they were completing this paperwork on another inmate and they were asking each other um why can't we charge inmates who are sentenced to prison for their time that the credit that they're being awarded by the court
system um that they spent in our County why can't we charge them for that which we have not done in the past I brought that question to sheriff heck who then brought it to our County attorney and in looking at that it was found that um a law was changed many years ago allowing
jails to use that credit that they were given on their prison sentence so we could recoup that cost and again that's up to $25 a day that we can charge that inmate so sometimes those inmates can sit up to two years in our jail while they're waiting to be sentenced so $25 a
day adds up fast so that is why I nominated them is they didn't just go with the status quo of saying that's how we've done it in the past great yes and obviously we're very proud
of the Innovation and the outside the box thinking of both Kayla and Kora and I'm very much in support of uh the nomination and very glad that we have these folks here today to be honored thank you thank
you they should come up board chair to be a part of this uh presentation please or if you all want to join and that's up to you of course right gotta come up front your choice congratulations up okay to say thank you
yeah you're fine figure good all right all right thank you very much and our next group would is Christine gonna is who's gonna speak on of a Treasurer
folks I can speak oh hey hey boy that was from the heavens wasn't it yeah sorry uh please Christine go right ahead if you want to yeah please go ahead so I just wanted to nominate the girls in our
office for the awesome job that they did throughout the 2024 election cycle there was four elections during the year and it was a stressful time and this is just a the true definition of what a team
looks like and everybody helped out equally and put in their hours and worked 15 days straight with no days off and so I just wanted the board to recognize them
excellent Christine could you introduce each of the folks that you've uh recognized and we'd ask him to come on up front and join us please everyone has everyone has to come up front Christy bosart who's our assistant auditor treasur Christy
Whiting who is our a deputy auditor treasure Nicole leap is a deputy auditor treasure leth Alain Is Our Land analysis Heather bondas is our senior Deputy
auditor and Amber wyrock and Chassidy Thompson who work in our DMV thank you Christine all right all right thank you thank you ladies thank you I just want to say both of these uh
awards are very much uh um appreciated between uh between the election and we all know how contentious that was um uh having having a team like that put together with with no issues and and everything is is phenomenal then you
look at the the other things that we've been talking about a little bit on the jail and stuff like that having employees look at other other ways of increasing revenue is is incredible so kudos to all the award uh recipients
I agree thank you Jacqueline from public health good morning good morning morning all right so this morning um we're here to ask the board to adopt a resolution to authorize an expenditure
of opioid funds for mental health co-responder this was discussed previously at the last Committee of the whole um so in your board packet is there is an enclosed resolution and so we'd be looking to ask for an adoption of I think okay
so we have the resolution before us um do you want to read it or do we want it read you actually at your discretion Mr chair if you wish these to be read or otherwise incorporated into the record that's that's your call okay what's your wishes Mr chair I'll move for approval
and incorporate it into the record okay second the motion been made in second it to incorporated into the record any discussion all in favor I I opposed carried thank you all right thank you
thank you this time I'll reassess the County Board to conduct public health or Community Health Board turn it over to commissioner hinan thank you Mr chair at this time we'll uh call order of the Benton County Community Health Board uh
approve or amend the agenda do we have anything to add to the agenda no additions this morning move for approval Mr chair second got a motion in a second any further discussion if not I'll call the question all in favor say I I I oppos motion carries uh there's one item
on a consent agenda what would we like to do with that move approval second got a motion in a second any further discussion if not I'll call the question all in favor say I I I motion carries thank you jacquin consider the request for public health continue to apply for
up to three Health Amer Corp members yes so it's about that time where we should be looking at um board support for us renewing with americore we've had americore Public Health members for the last three years it's gone fairly well they've done a lot of
really good projects for us at have them set to come do a board update um to talk about the projects that they've been working on and then this has come through um this was launched back in 2022 and the main goal of the americore program was to help build capacity in local public health as well as help to
address Workforce um shortages and getting more individuals into the public health Workforce so we have had members um throughout the last three years um along with our current members and would just be looking for support from the board for us to continue to apply for up
to three members per year um Amore has shared that they likely would have continued contract with their partner for the next 5 years so looking out over the next 5 years um and then just a refresher on the americ cor members it is a a full-time position or part-time position um most of ours have been 40
hours per week fully funded through AER cor they get placed with our site so we're at you know for with Benton County um really our responsibility is supervision time and then providing you know desk space um office space equipment um their benefits are paid through a mar
Corp so they have health insurance through a mar Corp they also receive um I believe it's Child Care um benefit as well as a um tuition reimbursement or tuition payment reimbursement through Amer cor so thank you Jacqueline I got one question you said over the next five years I thought they only ran three
years at a time though initially they think they had said three years but now they had said their contracts have changed so when I talked to Amore I said so time frame I said if I I'm looking out over 5 years he said that should be fine so mean if it changes we wouldn't request but just yeah just just wanting to make sure I have authorization in
order to continue to submit in each year sure thank you for that y information board move for approval Mr chair second we got a motion in a second any further discussion on this item if not I'll call the question all in favor say I I opposed motion carries thank you
next consider the request submit notice to intend to apply for the renewal of the ship grant funding yeah so our current ship Grant um is set to expire here shortly we've received notice from the Minnesota Department of Health that it's time to submit intent if we're planning on applying again um Our Last
Ship Grant cycle um ends in October of 31st of 2025 that award amount was around $841,000 over that 5-year time frame so we would be looking or asking for Community Health Board support to submit a letter of intent to continue our ship grant funding over the next
Grant cycle move approval second get a motion I second any discussion commissioner pop yeah do we are we applying for the same amount 845,000 or yeah so the amount is wed through the the funding formulas but so it would be what the Minnesota Department of Health has for funding I haven't heard that
anything's changed okay um a board meeting ago we did come back asking for additional ship grant funding they do have jeel settlements that get reached over time frames and so there's times where our contracts Amendment amended and we do get additional funds so this allocation award amount that we received
over the last Grant cycle included some additional Jewel funding settlement payments that's not something that is necessarily guaranteed every single cycle but it is something that we are looking at again for this year we just submitted that application or Mariah's been working on that as well um so I can't say it would be the same exact
amount but that's around what it has been all right yeah any further discussion if not I'll call the question all in favor say I I I opposed motion carries thank you anything else Jacqueline no that's it thank you great
thank you very much at this time we're adjourned at 9:21 and I'll turn it over to the board chair we reconvene the board Monty Mr chair we understand that folks of next CH are unable to be here this morning apparently they had travel difficulties
so they are not in attendance is that because of the very low temp well if they're coming from Florida they probably didn't even get I think Rox told me like Detroit or something Detroit in Detroit
snow yeah yeah that's just so well they actually approached us about being here so I presumably they'll want to reschedule I I did speak to someone and they want to reschedule for March 18th okay got it thanks thanks we'll get that on for they they seem to have confusion
about who they should contact well March 18th I would I would think it should be roxan right well it's kind of bounced around I mean sometimes I'll contact roxan sometimes me and this time Beth maybe we need a tree like who's on they
can keep going down the last but okay and actually the person that was going to be here is wasn't Adam it was some other person Mike who Mike we have not worked with before okay have not worked with before so I
wow okay yeah be was turnover what turnover turnover yeah I mean after they got beat up at the public Hearing in socker Rapids few weeks ago maybe there was yeah well it wasn't that bad I didn't think that was interesting
interesting is a good better word than better word it was interesting um you know and you hear that some of that money has gone away that they froze some of that funding because I i' had asked the question up in rice and they said their funding is all in place there for
okay um I didn't I think it was like Franklin was the last name Sandy schelberg yeah a good morning morning morning uh the first um agenda item that we had for Human Services was to request the a
request from Scott County to consider a letter of support for the advoc advocacy to reduce the amount of men Choice assessments if you recall our Duty right now is we have to do men Choice assessments once a year that's Dub's unit that's where we have a waiting list
where we just had hired two new assessors additional Assessors for that unit um so Scott County um has chosen to um go forward looking to change the rules to every three years would be the
assessment or as needed or as requested this would greatly reduce the number assessments we do um it is supported by Max that is supported by Micah one might be concerned that with nobody looking at the seeing the client and doing an assessment every year that some things
may be missed however um it is not that our agency still wouldn't have contact with these individuals case managers go out twice a year and there are continued people providing Services assessment can be done at any point in in their plan if asked for or requested um so this would
reduce our workload it would allow us to move some staff or or you to move some staff to where they are needed or cut down on our costs this Mr chair this was talked about it m Don Scott County when we there so um
is it do you think it's partly due because there may not be enough funding for this going forward or I do not think this is is motivated by funding I think it's motivated by the same thing we're seeing here we're required to see clients within 10 days no county in the
state has been able to do that as of late or at least barely any if any and everybody's had waiting list which we haven't had before it's I think it's truly meant to meet the needs of our Workforce and again Mr chair I think that was highlighted and correct me if I'm wrong Sandy but the Antiquated
systems that have to be dealt with don't help the process it does not correct yeah Mr chair uh I would agree with all of that uh Sandy I'm assuming other counties are going have had this letter of request too yes I don't know exactly
who else but I did talk with Sterns and right in Sherburn counties and they were also endorsing it okay thank you move for approval of the letter of support Mr chair second most been made in second it any other discussion hearing none call the
question all in favor I opposed carried and I'm gonna ask Nikki nolles to come up for the next two agenda items good morning Commissioners good morning morning the first topic is the lighthouse contract um this is a new contract for an old purpose um we're current currently Contracting with
Central Minnesota Mental Health Center for our clinical supervision enironmental health Team the person that we had been using for the last few years is retiring and they are not able to fulfill that position for us any longer so I was able to connect with Lighthouse who is currently doing it for one of our
neighboring counties um to continue that contract for us starting uh March first Mr chair just a question Nikki looking at the contract as far as payment for services it talks about a not to exceed number of 52,500 at the rate of 175
bucks an hour um and I think it set up to 20 5 hours a month is that right so is that what the billing is or is the billing actually if there's 20 hours a month that's what it is it's per hour per hour so everything's per hour with a not to exceed of that total correct all right thank you I just want to clarify
that and we use significantly less than that um just we do a higher number just because if we have new workers coming in they need weekly supervision so it's kind of a math game um for a while so if our mental health Team stays consistent then it is only two hours a month um so it really depends on where our team is
at sure okay thank you great I'll make a motion to approve the contract with the lighthouse Child and Family Services I'll second motion's been made and second it any other discussion hearing none call the question all in favor I I opposed
carried and then the second agenda item is for a request from momentum Center we have Stephanie Ferguson here to talk further about the request um letter and I believe the letter is in uh our board chair's packet good morning thanks for having me uh I
think Steve you were probably on the last one when I was here I'm not sure if else was but um my name is Stephanie Ferguson I currently own M uh momentum Center we serve males uh in St
Cloud on uh the east side of St Cloud which is in beton County um I was back here probably almost four years ago go um we'll be 4 years old this summer um just uh speaking to the fact that uh
East Haven had closed and I was reopening serving the same population um which is males uh in substance used disorder um serving drugs and alcohol um we are the lowest level of residential care and I'm coming this morning to talk
to you about the Thrifty Motel location um uh and the reason for that is we're just shy of what needs to be separate um and the zoning purposes of the property it's
zoned for um Motel um Hotel um and I would like to turn it into momentum Center for Women uh and have a 1.0 program which is an after Care Program which would have a separate door
entrance um that would serve uh both populations and uh the the vision would be eventually to have adolescent programming as well for an after care it would be a site where individuals in the
community could come to be assessed uh on the women's portion they would be kept separate uh so there would would not be any interactions between the populations um and we would be serving the same
level of care which is the lowest level of care a 3.1 for residential um for the state of Minnesota and if you're wondering kind of what that entails it entails uh uh right now under State uh
programming is about eight hours 5 to eight hours of programming a week um that also includes them um seeing their counselor their licensed alcohol drug counselor uh we provide groups for relapse prevention
co-occurring which talks about mental health as well as the heartbeat of who I am and what my programs stand for is really filling those gaps um that have been set into place throughout life for
living skills so a lot of our time also uh staff are working on living skills so the Thrifty Martel would be turned into to um uh apartment style living that is currently my model in one that I stand
by so our uh the women would would be cooking for themselves maintaining their living space attending groups there would be more office space for staff as we're kind of crunched in our newest
location uh and um and so you may be thinking like how are they provid providing food for themselves our clients get a $50 food card weekly um to be able to start those skills and cooking for themselves uh we have many
different agencies from the area come in and do different classes as well as above and beyond the 5 to eight hours of programming um so we do offer more programming for our clients um because
there's that need of the life skill built questions any questions Mr chair chair excuse me uh yep thank you Stephanie I did actually tour that place with you too you know about four years ago are you going to keep that place
open too then absolutely it serves males okay yep yep so they would be separate this would be a whole different project okay uh larger than my first project right y okay thank you I got a question you said you're looking for a reason
zoning there would need to be a zoning yep um I have spoken with St Cloud um on that there needs to be an okay from Benton County to be able to move forward with St Cloud yeah I that sounds a little weird sounds little you're in the
city limits there yeah yes it does but I think this might refer back to our last I was one of my questions was going to be is what has it been like dealing with the city to try to get this wining I actually have not had any issues I know that there's been issues I
did catch wind of that on my own um and so I did I have heard it sounds like there was there was maybe a gal that was in that space and I don't know the full
story so just bear with me here um and maybe it her model that she was going under possibly was more on like a homeless shelter type of a model um and that could have been what was going on
because of the Salvation Army being so close and maybe place of hope I'm I'm not sure about that my my thing with the zoning is a couple of things not only does a property need to be rezoned um but uh in statutes it states that you
cannot have um Within a half a mile you can't have two residential and I am the residential and it's just a little shy of being a half a mile apart Mr chair roxan correct me if I'm wrong I don't
think beton County would be involved at all in the zoning um doesn't mean we don't have concerns or want to be at the table about those type of facilities or homeless shelters but I don't know that Benton County will have any say no no phing requests in the city of St Cloud okay sounds good and I think the only
reason that the there was issues before is they went against exactly what the Zone the reasons for having the the spacing needs of these of these uh um situations they they went against
exactly why those spacing needs are in there Y and and their uh and on their uh um uh variance yep action so but again yeah no yeah we have no no we don't have any no if I may I think
the reason we the reason we brought this to board however is that in order for her to receive her her license through the state of Minnesota the Benton County Board does need to do a statement of need for the CD program not about zoning right what about the need for the service so that was the focus for
bringing it to board today and Sandy I would assume the letter that's presented here somebody worked in conjunction that's what you need is what's in this letter correct okay perfect okay wishes I'll make I'll make a motion to approve the chair to sign a letter of
support for momentum Center to open a residential program in Betton County I'll second motion been made in second any other discussion hearing none I'll call the question all in favor I I thank you good luck Stephanie thank
you thank you God D roxan you to close the community no that was we we did before this was Human Services Board okay all
right so before you we have the Mississippi St Cloud one Watershed one plan um what we're requesting is a adoption of the joint Powers agreement uh between those entities so it would be Benton maker Stern Sherburn and wri
counties and then Benton merer malac Stern Sherburn and Wright s swcds um we do need to present the plan to you and have that adopted by resolution prior to the adoption of the jpe and I've got
Emily forbo here with the S swcd to give a presentation on the plan um in your packets you were providing uh just the executive summary because it's over 400 pages I believe um Emily do you want me to pull up yeah we're going through all 400 right
yep all of it she likes to when you let her give her a little leash and she's gone with it is it the max just bring it uption before we move on hope can find it quicker I yeah
that's is it subdivision 3A or 3B so let's see and while Emily's pulling that up I did make a correction to the uh resolution uh commissioner Johnson pointed out that I had flip-flopped uh the Commissioners that were appointed to
that board um getting confused between this the SEL and the St Cloud we're going through a lot of the same stuff so I did make that correction and provided B I really wanted to leave it but I thought all right can you guys see that
okay yes yep perfect uh as roxan said I'm Emily forbo from Benton swcd I'm the Watershed and Outreach specialist and I will be talking about the Mississippi St Cloud uh one Watershed one plan briefly so as rock said there are six counties
11 lgus throughout this uh Watershed plan and they all assisted in the planning efforts um the total acreage of the Watershed is 691 th000 acres and the main focus of the plan is to restore
impaired Waters and habitats protect high quality resources and protect groundwater uh the priority issues that were um created for this plan were created by the public input and uh kickoff meeting as well as the state agencies and then our lgus and S
swcds the priority issues were uh surface water groundwater habitat and natural resources and then landscape resiliency and then under those priority issues are the concerns so pollutant runoff altered hydrology um internal loads for surface water and then for groundwater is
quality and quantity and for habitat and natural resources it's the restoration protection and preservation of our um resources and then the landscape resiliency would be the concern would be the soil Health um for Benton County we
have three of the priority management zones or I guess they're broken up into seven different management zones um Benton County has the headwaters elk the Elk River and the St Francis and there are different levels of priorities throughout those three um subwatersheds
in our County and uh the plan does follow very similarly to our previous water plan any questions do we want to go through each page a little bit more or no no okay I was I was kidding you can you can
highlight it canl you can highlight as much as you want okay uh so here's just a map of the county or the the Watershed excuse me um here obviously this talks about the
management Zone so we have the headwaters Elk River the Elk River and the St Francis in our County uh here this just talks about the local governments that are participating all of the counties and the S swcds so
Benton Meer malac Sherburn Sterns wri uh s swcds and then the only County that didn't participate was Mala County so that's why we have 11 instead of 12 lgus um another management area with the
counties broken out this just talks about the different committees that uh help create these priority issues and concerns um Scott is actually was part of our policy committee this is just the Public Notices and public input that was taken
into consideration while doing or completing these priority issues this just walks through how we got to the prioritized issues and then our implementation table which um contains all the bmps that will
be put to use in the the plan uh talks about some diff this page talks about some different prioritization on so the wraps the npca that's a a report put together by the npca uh just different state and
local um reports that were in consideration for the issues these are the four issues that I had talked about so the groundwater surface water landscape resiliency and then the habitat and natural
resources and then these are the concerns broken down from the four issues so plut runoff altered hydrology internal Lake processes groundwater quality and quantity habitat and natural resources restoration protection and
preservation and then the landscape resiliency is soil Health um there are measurable goals based off of each um issue statement I could go through all of them but it would take a long
time um so hopefully you looked through those uh this was actually a photo of our kickoff meeting back in January of 2023 and then here is the the multi benefit and analysis so this is what we will be using to determine on whether
projects are a high priority priority or opportunity so that burnt orange or dark orange color is going to be our high priority areas and the um lighter orange is going to be the priority areas so those two colors the orangish colors are
going to be areas where bmps will be taking place first or have a higher priority of taking place and then you can kind of see along here there are some streams and lakes within the Watershed that have a high priority buffer along them as well and that's
about a thousand feet so anything within those areas are also high priority um different priority protection and restoration lakes and streams within the Watershed so for Benton County we have priority restoration on
Elk River and Mayu Creek and then St Francis the St Francis River and then for protection streams we have the Stony Brook and it's kind of hard to see but the priority restoration Lake that we have within Benton County is mayew
Lake any questions any questions um I got one do you know about how much funding is going to come like for the two-year process two-year period yeah so we just put in requests for this first fiscal year fy2
and this year is going to be uh 1.2 million okay that has to be programmed out between staff and everything else for two years right correct yes it it will expire December 31st of 2027 okay
anything else and the Mr chair Emily the new board will help walk through that process too right once this resolution happens then we'll identify a new board corre this and we'll help be involved in the dispersion of those dollars yep we can set that board now if you
like well I think you are with the resolution yeah right but yeah I mean pretty much unless it changes it was pretty much the same policy committee as a policy committee you know maybe you'll have changes over the years but I I
smell a change coming no it's okay um we need to adopt this first the plan first the plan and then the appointment okay move for approval to adopt the plan
Mr chair I'll second that Mo been made seconded to adopt the plan is there any other discussion any other questions no okay all in favor I I opposed
carried now we'll pick now the JP is it yes Mr chair I'll move to adopt the JP with the corrected commissioner spots myself as the main and yourself as the alternate okay I would love to second
that yeah thank you guys second now was a chance to Bow uh I don't think so in all seriousness I do thank you guys for being on this because it's when you do one it just makes a lot of sense and if
if look at this one and you look at what we used to have as the Elk River Watershed that did a lot of really good things throughout Bon County and then that was dissolved so this has got to kind of take its place in that for our Elk River um you know I always thought the Elk River was a really good board
that a lot of money came to bton County and Sherburn County but um not all counties involved seen it that way so wasn't the first one The Rum River the first well first yeah the first wed but we used to have the the um so you've been involved with three of them now so
this is great yeah well before the water plans it before the water plans came in we had well the O was dissolved before Bowser actually started the long time ago yeah long time ago so this is before our time this has been ongoing that might have been before was born even
yeah probably maybe not course so we got a motion and a second uh recommend commissioner Johnson to be appointed to that board and you as the alternate correct
okay uh all in favor I opposed all right thank thank you guys thank you okay Monty or no first we'll set Committee of the holes I do got one thing under I we seem to go by meeting
updates and comments by Commissioners did you you already cover those I just we didn't no okay I I didn't bring my meeting updates so okay I didn't have a ton are we doing them or yeah we can do we'll do meeting
updates right now I'll think of mine you guys go ahead want me to start sure go ahead all right um was able to attend the drainage conference up at Alex uh back in February 4th through the 6th uh we uh Chris was there and Christine was
there I think it was a lot of great information um they put on a lot of different sessions and always seem to pick up something there so it was a it was a good uh good conference um commissioner pop and I attended the quad's uh County Extension Committee in in St Cloud last week on the 10th uh so
we had all four counties there and had a two and a half three hour meeting um so we got a lot of updates and we're able to hear from all the Educators uh and on also that evening commissioner Po and I had the Betton County Extension committee meeting um the next day of course we had our cow
Airport Authority we'll have a little more discussion about that um and then as we talked earlier with Grady the capital uh time down at the legislature on February 13th and then that evening Planning Commission meeting so that's what I had
okay Steve sure uh so I had the WJ WJ radio interview with homelessness and I want to thank V Victoria for joining me on that that went very well uh I had a Shack meeting C
Solutions that's all I um had a mic board meeting on the 12th met with uh triap um director on the 11 uh had first steps joint Powers
meeting in El River on the 13th and um also had two career Solutions meetings too Mr chair I also was at the capital with commissioner Johnson and Grady uh I want
to thank commissioner Johnson for taking the second half of the day because I could not make the second half of the day so thank you sir you made more than I made I didn't make any of them that's true NE that was very enoy I thought it was a very good day it was it was very
or not you know I didn't really feel that crowded not like not like years pass I really felt like we had the time we needed to talk with individual legislators so that was good and we picked up quite a few what four or five additional people that we weren't even going to be seen in the hallway yeah
correct happened to be open commission or uh uh Senator papis you know she was gracious enough to we happen to walk by her office and she was in there by herself bone in oh really so yeah no it worked out very well yeah Mr chair um we did have the solid waste meeting I
couldn't make that yep oh that's right I I forgot you you were out of town um we had Solid Waste meeting nothing real Earth shattering there um we did have the ER JC or what the anoa regional Treatment Center that was uh that was
pretty un as well APO uh we had that after you guys or after the the legislative or the transportation day um David church was there actually gave a heck of a presentation on what uh what
he does or what what his firm does for us lobbying at the at the capital I did have a chance to talk with David after about all the resolutions that passed in Sock Rapids and and uh we're going to follow up with him from the raised Grand
side of things but I think with that being in the APO area we're able to utilize his staff for lobbying for the grant for the for the uh um raise Grant
and um when we were out there last in in November for the for the APO one of the things that came up is you know the legislators don't have um a lot of say on raise Grant but they can make calls
over there and ammer with his position right now has a very big stick he can throw so it might not be a bad idea to uh um time that accordingly and have him you know tell him to highly look at
this cuz we've we've scored very well we scored not so well the first time we scored well the second time and this is the third time going through and now with everything that has uh has came up I think some of the things that we scored low on like the um the um um
carbon reduction all that stuff with all the additional people coming in could could actually go go up so um we're going to try and time that to where he can make a call over there because not then we have not only stuff at the state with Grady we got the feds looking at it
and somewhere along the line I think we're going to get the money to at least do that first leg have they added another AC down there it kept bring brought up as raise SL build so is build a just a new AC I have no idea put on
there do you know no I I picked on that too and I just didn't understand between raise and build you mean the build Grant or you mean the raise Grant yeah they were kind of tied together our office today we've always been told it's just the raise Grant correct that's what we've been told you know but maybe Chris
would know more about that but no I picked up on that too and I was going to ask the question and I just forgot right to be you know asked that question but you know you're you're right commissioner ginsky at the APO level that was a very good meeting I mean came
in a little later I I know commissioner Beno was there too and they did a very good presentation of what the APO is all about yeah but you know uh he did a great presentation about what they do in DC and what's happening that was very
good presentation yeah and he's he's lobbyist for Sterns County too y he's from Sock Rapids yeah y so dick church was on the fire department in souid that's his brother and dick was there at
the deal but no they they do a good job when we go out there he it's his staff taking us around and everything like that so it's yep and it's and it's always one-on-one you're not with a group it's kind of like what Grady did
with you guys so but um one of the things I brought up uh uh to church out there before we got Grady involved was was maybe he they could help us on this out there and then we started circling back and I asked the question to um
Brian I said well why if this is in our APO we already shared in the cost study mhm why wouldn't he Lobby us exactly and he's like well technically I suppose he could yeah so we don't need to hire them separately right so we're going to be
really hitting and and with with uh me being chair of the APO that's going to I'm going to make sure that's our PRI one of our priorities out there and it should because that's a Hu for the APO area that's a huge development Corridor right well and and I don't know about
you commissioner hon but that was the first time that I was at the capital with a lobbyist and I can't imagine getting done what we got done that day without him oh us and and I think back on when you guys are at DC and the $5 million came from the feds it's a pretty
good Roi for a little bit of time for Commissioners and for flights and yeah Hotel oh it's well you even get the the sense when you have the lobbyist like um through Farmers Union or Micah they they know these people yes
they do and if you're just hanging on to the shirttails pretty soon you know these people you know um and he did a really good job of he presented allowed us to present went back and forth yes so it was again highlight arguably I think
I got more coming back from DC than I did there though cuz I sat in a Smith and all of I mean all the legislators were coming back huh at the same time at the same time and they were all on our flight that must be why she wanted to retire she had to sit yeah exactly next
you'd retire too if you had to sit at night but I actually made the joke I said I'm just going to keep flying out here and wait for you guys to come back I'll use some of my points to upgrade and everything like that um one other thing that did come up at the APO
was the Belt Line the bridge mhm um there is a a um uh a construction company it's not Knife River they they thought it was Knife River at one point um I forgot the name of it but they're looking at building gravel pits right where the bridge is going to go oh
really but it actually can be a good thing for us because they're going to be working with the the DNR and and all of the the uh we'll call it the environmentals and what we just got to
make sure they re uh remediate all that all all that uh area that they're taking the dirt out and and it can make it a lot easier for us to to actually build the bridge in the future more so like when you go up to Virginia where they you know they mined out the stuff and
then they built it back up so they could build that way around which is you know cost got an awful amount of M yeah and Mike Conway actually brought up from City of St Cloud down in Woodberry they did the same thing and and people don't even know that there's 400 houses in a
gravel pit mhm yeah so yeah okay I had B A lot of the meetings were the same um Micah um Mr bite went down got to see what Mike is like we're going to switch um meeting locations over to the mcit
building because we're out growing the one there with our new counties that are there we had a large part of inperson this time so um just heard a lot of legislative stuff and you know the Child Care funding the fraud that's going on
and big big deal what they had down there so can um commissioner anyone want to do any commissioner comments I got a couple things sure first off I want to thank uh
commissioner Johnson for working with staff on this this is and having the the wherewithal go ahe I yeah go please to wherewithal to think about putting it in in the tax statements going out that that is
clever um the next thing is is uh with some of the resolutions we've passed in the past um one of the things that was brought up from another commissioner is I think he had mentioned that there was a rule that
resolutions have to be called individually instead of as a group roll call you mean roll call they have to be done they resolutions are supposed to be done by roll call I've never heard that before yeah and well I you know I I'm
not aware of any statutory requirement to do that and I'm not aware of any Roberts Rules of Order this brings to mind I remember a county attorney a long time ago we were talking about well what is a resolution and this County attorney said
it's just a fancy motion MH you know we have all the weas and so on so forth but still just emotion M it just happens to be I just thought I would bring it up okay because I've never heard that before so yeah you know I think uh commission kinsky I mean if you you know if the County Board wish to sort of
Follow That protocol you certainly can I mean there's nothing that would prohibited I don't have a problem with the way we're doing it but I thought I better bring it up because it was brought up to me I yeah I will make a note and uh and look into it but yeah never well at and at the same token Mr
chair I would think the board could take that up on each particular resolution if you chose to do a roll call yeah at any point I think the chair could say I'd like a roll call vote on this right yeah sure it just happened to be we had a few resolutions today and I'm sitting there going I mean it definitely slows your meeting down you got to do a roll call
you know but sometimes those potential resolutions could be a little more contentious i y I know in the past when it's like unclear you know okay who voted how you'll go back and do a roll call we've done right y right and I'm not saying
what we're doing is wrong or right I just I wanted to bring it up because one of the Commissioners brought it up to me that don't you guys do a roll call and I'm like no we don't do that so so if I may is there consensus to send this out and Christine got a cost for us it's 13
1285 1285 1285 to include this in the uh property tax statements as a stuffer I think it's a great way to at least get it out there MH you know there's there's a fair amount of people don't know about it know about it well that and you know
as we talked about earlier is most of these most of the residents are going to be open up their property tax Sav yeah absolutely it's just was a if you got 10 nine of them do right away exactly okay got it I wish we had some uh just basic numbers to go off of cuz you know you
look at the remodel standpoint i i t I had the ability to talk to somebody over the weekend um that called me specifically on this project yeah and uh they used to work for the county so they they brought up a couple things and they're like actually what you're
bringing up makes a little bit more sense now on on remodel versus versus build but a lot of people don't understand that these buildings start have a lot of things that need to be upgraded coming up elevators stuff like
that Big Ticket big Ticket items that we going status quo really isn't going status quo on this building it's not going to be it's not going to be we got to start doing things to this building to to bring it up lot CIP dollars are spent yeah and when I brought up the fact that cuz I thought I thought the
architect brought up and and Pete brought up the fact that it was like between $5 and $600,000 or something like that a year to plan for upkeep for this for this for this building cuz there's a lot of things that have we've let go
so and and at that point it was uh it was like holy cow so the other thing I thought was very he thought was very key was the wind solar and uh stuff like that that potentially is in the future for putting
putting dollars into the county right so no production tax production taxes y sorry so that was it okay set Committee of the holes we don't have any yeah move on well Mr chair uh I think it's important to get
uh your next Government Center mean on the books and uh me I'm actually calling Evan right now to I I told him I would call him if you could pick a date he's not answering his phone is now
part of a has call ID you know Monte he's he's SC he's screening his calls block calls okay let me let me see if I can track him down here hang on just a sec give me give me another second here U I'll try another number 32252 hi this is Monte from Ben county
is Evan in the office this morning do not exactly sure that'd be fine thank you so maybe we could go ahead yeah thanks we could go ahead and start looking at some dates um so maybe the first week of first or second week of
March how about Monday the 3 here tell me again's calling Monty from Bon County right County Monty from Benton County thank you mon if I can Che down okay thanks
than we have a call on the fourth yes employee recognition at 7 just employee recognition at 7 and we have 2:00 on we have a ditch Authority meeting that night too that night yeah that special meeting at night
at 600 yeah what day is that the 4th any Emergency Management in the afternoon March 4th yep okay thank you we have a 2:00 hazardous mitigation yep Emergency Management yep okay that was that was online though
wasn't it yes yeah no wonder I blocked out all day for that so third wasn't going to work third third works for me I just threw it out there it works for me but I don't know rest of you I mean it's open I'm back I'm back in town so yeah that's all that
matters yeah you said it March 3rd would be fine I think yeah March 3rd the third okay okay okay okay so right now we're going to go with March 3rd at what time 8:30
8:30 okay use the Pet's pretty yeah youing on call that's okay uh we're just trying to schedule our next meeting with the Ben County board if you could just if you could let Pete sorry at Evan know
that we're looking at March 3rd at 8:30 and if he could please please let me know if that will or will not work again March 3rd at 8:30 and that's for a board meeting yeah it's it next me with the Ben County
Board okay I will give him that message and I will ask him to respond to you thank you very much thank you enjoy your day yeah thank you bye bye okay I tried is that the only one you got that's all I got wow motion to
approve s motion's been made and seconded to set the cows did you have something else anybody else anything else all the question all in favor I Mr chair yes I got one thing that I
was just made aware of earlier and it was right after we did a resolution or or the motion but there was there's a a significant amount of delinquent taxes on that Thrifty like 27,000 okay so um we got to watch that yep
interesting okay now I don't know if she owns it or she's buying it well I think I don't know I think the Lin taxes and the owners got it for sale there's been it for sale sign so my guess is that would
have to be paid anyway anyway when the S so just wanted to bring that up and we don't want to see the delinquent taxes be part of a deal that the company exactly yes so I want to might have heard that
right yeah so um so M yes next thing is uh of course you recently met with the airport Authority yep and I I wanted to see is did you have any reactions to what you heard do you have any thoughts or direction for me on this
issue Mr chair a and I had talked about this lastly from my perspective I think we should set up a a subcommittee of two Commissioners from each County and get together at a some type of meeting place and discuss what the counties as a whole are feeling
about it yeah and I think that'd be great idea I think I missed the boat on one of my point items that you know I think um Mr Towell needed to hear is that if this is going to continue the counties can we can set that airport
regional board up to be a very negative board by our appointees every County knows who the anti-air report person would be and if they want to go down that route and have them kind of people on the board it's up to us every year to make them appointments you know it's
sure it's a third three-year appointment but I believe we could go back and say uh we decided we want to go a different route you can change anytime anytime we can change so I think that's something that needs to be brought to them because I don't really think they got the message that this is not going to work
yeah uh Mr chair I I uh I struggled in there because I thought Kevin Johnson did a great job on on his deal and very I was very firm on my comments and stuff but I think we all agree that we need
this we need we need the airport we need we need some kind of a board that that conines over the airport but I do not agree with the way that board is set up right now or the ability it was completely I in my opinion set up in the
St Cloud fa yeah and they got the most power right now that's the thing that really stood out to me is it takes all four entities to let one entity out that's never going to happen and the only way you're going to control that is for the Three Counties to point people that think's going to have to come back
to the table or else you know well and if you heard in there that the ramp needs to be redone mhm I mean there's a lot of things that need to be redone on that airport yeah and there's no inflationary indexes on anything no no for 10 years the full
10 years yeah so so M chair uh obviously you want to you want to meet with the other counties I I would suggest that those means would include the city but if you don't think they should please let me know um the city's consent would be required any any changes to that
enabling resolution so do you want them along as part of this discussion or not Mr chair uh I would think that the first initial might have to be the counties because in my opinion I think the
counties are the ones that stand to lose right cuz everything is set financially for the city from here on out they know where they sit it's the counties that don't know where they sit okay I would agree I think initially it should be a county thing okay I I would have to
agree and I to you know I do I do too support the airport I was a little methed you know cuz our understanding back in the day was 10 years you know is when we
would probably have it but yeah that's all I have to say well then I I'll contact Bruce and Mike and uh gauge their interest of getting a couple board members to meet uh we could certainly host here if you wanted to I
would love to be on that two-person crew so we got one volunteer we have a second I'm willing but I'll let the board can decide who they want you know I don't men you necessar me to make those appointments today I can come back and ask you later so yeah okay little first
things first then we'll contact those two counties uh next matter is uh a couple of our board members met with Sheriff heck and jail administrator Charlene Novak about jail operations Joe C and uh I I I think too I wanted to see
was there any any followup any direction uh from you all on the matter of the jail and perhaps the two board members could share your impressions of that Mr chair well really there's no other direction we can go I
mean we're set with 30 to 35 people can't do anything about the jail food can't do anything about medical earning anything you know and fortunately these expenses are going to get higher and higher and higher every year you know we were hoping it was a very good meeting
and and thanks Troy you know I I appreciate that conversation you know we as the board are looking at the amount of Number the amount of money it takes to run that and and it's just my opinion mindboggling you know
for the amount of money go ahead yeah I the only thing I would say to that is I think we got to start looking outside the box here I mean yes we're we're we're stagnant on where we can go right now but we there's
got to be push back on Doc on on a lot of these mandated things that the Jail's got to do the five post five post four post six post whatever it is um this is unsustainable right now and you know I
think it was number was 479 per inmate based on 30 inmates right now per day yeah well I believe it so if times that by 365 it's a pretty big number well it comes out to our budget yeah a lot of our budget there so you
know when you're when you're employing two people for every one person incarcerated and then don't work and then we have a liability standpoint like Sheriff we talked about it's like where do you draw the line it's like sometimes I you hate to say this but sometimes
you're liability doesn't outweigh the benefit of of not having those items so I think we got to continue to look at this and and figure out what we can do because if if the public if the public
really understood the numbers it would be you know and that's why we're here you know my my biggest concern or fear is what docc is going to do this year you know what are they going to do
are they going to come and mandate us I mean we don't know that correct Sheriff correct the rules are being reviewed right now and it's a comprehensive review there's a lot of unknown about what those new rules will look like right yeah and and the new
rules they're not going to give us any money no for it they're just going to make it mandated for us to do all of this with the new rules and and how can we how can we move forward with the amount of money that we're spending right now because we all
know mandates are going to cost a lot more money well it's to your first comment it's not sustainable well no it's not and and one of the things I brought up in our meeting is I had the unfortunate happening of somebody stole
the $35,000 Fish House from me plus got into the storage units and I mean you look at $40,000 worth of sto and stuff right yeah they're out of jail in 11 hours yep that's right the one has court today and the one has court on May
something and it's there was no bail there was no nothing and we're talking $40,000 worth of somebody else's stuff that we have to deal with now that I don't have until it gets fixed or total or whatever and I'm and I'm sitting here
going this is the society we live in right now this just one little in not it's not the sheriff's department cuz they would love to have them in their jails because that's the only's going to teach it they probably think they should be in their jail too yeah you know oh yeah I guarantee that cuz then they're
not arresting them the next day yeah that would definitely help with our jail understand it's not everything you but or not not not you it's the it it goes system the judges all the way down and the system um but yeah we're right if I
mean if if the public knew how much we spend on jail I don't know what the reaction would be I don't think it would be very good I don't think it would be very good no you know is sheriff is that the trend pretty much all counties other than your large Metropolitan
counties which I I'm not sure I understand question you know the negative amount of dollars that counties are spending on jails jail populations jail the responsibility to House people is expensive and
there is a there's an economy of scale that some of the larger jails are able to achieve if you get outside of the metropolitan area where they have that ability to do economy of scale all of us all the rest of us do have that that burden where we're trying to make the
best we can out of the responsibility we have in our buildings in in the situation that we each face so I would say that the the decisions that we Face are very common to all the other jails outside the
Metro Mr chair Monty or sheriff is is there any recent history of County shutting jails down I don't know I was I was asked to kind find out from Doc how many counties don't have jails and I got a list about
six or seven and when I'm back my plan is to contact those counties and just understand what it is how does it work for you yeah you know transport for whatever whatever you know what's life like for you not having a jail sure uh so when I and and they are small
certainly they're small counties they're they're typically really small counties that that are in this list and there was like a group of maybe three counties that were part of a regional jail all right so not a lot there's but I'll contact them start contacting when I get
back so that's the Swift swift counties the ones out in the western part that have the regional jail yes I think there's a Red River Correctional Facility out there I think that's what's calling yeah and I'm not aware of any jails that have closed
lately I know Mala County looked at this issue as well and they after having a consultant review what their situation was went ahead with I think a remodel I believe that they're maintaining their facility and perhaps changing some things one of the things that was
alarming and once again this isn't on you this is the this is a coralation of all the counties around us that we use the dumbers were you know our our boarding rate we just went up to $80 versus 75 the average in the area is
between 80 and 125 yes but even if we went to 100 people which we couldn't do because we're not at a six post jail the max or our our boarding costs are still in that $140 per person rate mhm right you know
no matter which way we look at it this isn't cash flowing you know so it's it's a numbers game and and I think right now we can go in perfect environment with a was it we're a five post right now right
correct with a perfect environment we could go to 75 and that was absolutely perfect mhm right that would be difficult it' be difficult difficult to manage the jail no to get to that a max amount people because they got to be certain priorities and
step in and say then you're going to have additional Detention officers too then no with with the five post again if we can reach perfect classification which is difficult because half the building is uh work release and and low risk and female and we could do that
number with the staff we have now but operationally when you get at about 80% of your 80 85% of your maximum capacity that's pretty much operational capacity because of those issues you have of you can't put highrisk people down in a
lowrisk unit yeah yeah Sheriff you're I don't want to say you you're in a bad position I mean you're here defending everything and and we're here looking at numbers and there's there's only so much you can
do you know it's there it's once again all these mandated things above us that get brought down and and it's another local dollar put on on all of our community people and the the crudy thing is is we got to make sure these guys or
the guys and gals that are that are incarcerated that when we finally can incarcerate them got to get taken care of to the to the fullest yeah on our dollar they did something to get there when did we lose track of that where did we lose track that you're
a criminal right yeah when I mean we just lost track of yeah you know uh I got to stop well and you're right that the way the court system is now you know all the hearings and everything are are uh Visual and all that too and they don't
have to come in to court and all that but even at that point in time if they get charged they still don't come in the facility you know they still don't come into jail oh crazy it's disappointing it is but that's but you're right that's a
society we live in and I don't see that Society changing for quite a while and and Mr chair if I may I guess the one other thing I'd like to inject into the discussion is when we talk about what this might look for in the future I think the thing we need to keep sight of
as well is that our jail serves uh all the police departments around us and also our Deputy staff so when if there comes a time when we start making decisions about what that housing situation might look like if it's not here there are several other agencies
that we need to bring on board that discussion because that might alter how they have to staff and how they have to carry out their law enforcement function so it's it's not just a matter of good point here and fley how things work with our staff it's a matter also of The
Wider perspective for law enforcement in the county never thought of that sheriff that yeah that's a good point you got Sock Rapids rice Foley Gilman yeah okay anything else for the sheriff I think we got to still continue
just ask questions but complicated subject and uh my only you know I think I can offer you today is contacting these counties that don't have jails and again asking them what life is like yeah and and and sharing that with you all
and going from there you know I I think if you really want to dig into this issue we're going to need some outside help MH uh it's it's a big issue um you know maybe maybe I would presume there's someone out there that does Consulting in jail operations that we could get their
services it's complicated you know you'd want to involve the courts yeah the other police departments you know all the participants in the system um to get their input um so um it's a very cruddy position as
a commissioner to be in with the fiduciary responsibility when you see that because you I I want to I want to elaborate off of that you're you're looking at five elected officials and the six you know we have who all know what's going on who all know what's
going on he's got a he's got a job to do we got a job to do and it starts pinning everybody like how do we do all of our jobs for the right of the taxpayers yeah without and then and then now you throw in the other agencies I completely didn't even think of that yeah I think
the thing is you know you're you're dealing with a deeply entrenched system think about it you know that's essentially old and you know every most every county has got enormous investment in facilities wow and it's tough just to sort of like close the door turn off the
lights and walk away it's really tough well on the the opposite side is if you never address it it it just continues to it's still the elephant in a room right you're right it's a deep issue that's been around for 100 years but yeah well at some point one of the things I'm with
with the AMC um uh public SA safety one of the things that I'm changing is how they do the intructions and stuff like that other than our F four policy issues that we've got I'm having people bring what else other than those four policy
issues what struggle do you what number one struggle do you have in your county as it relates to Public Safety MH and I guarantee you this is going to come up for sure by meh but it's going to be hiring it's going to be the support of the the government there's going to be
lot of things that is going to take on that policy committee that are serious and prod my guess is we're going to come up with five main policies yeah so so if you go back years
in to the jail was it ever profitable is it because of the dynamic change in the communities and them not incarcerating people and and that kind of stuff is that why this is an issue Mr I'd like answer that and then I'd like to because
I I I we asked some of those questions in there I think the costs have from meals to Medical to just skyrocketed and before it was a profitable deal when we could bring in people or at least we were breaking even so there was definitely a time where we received
significant revenues from jail boarding uh it was not uncommon to get a million million and a half in jail boarding back in probably the late well the early 2000s month Monte it must been before my time I remember when I first started in
know2 you know 7 800,000 and then it just you know obviously the last years but there was a a significantly higher demand for jail space 20 years ago yeah in that time um Counties have built larger jails I
think the biggest change we've seen though has been at our state leadership levels uh the governor's office has a tremendous control over what sentencing guidelines are the when you really look into the
machine and see how it works yes there's judges that sit on that bench and they ultimately pronounce sentence and sometimes people focus on that person that Cog in the machine but really there's this large machine behind them that sets sentencing guidelines there's a commission that's appointed by the
governor and these people meet and they decide how many how many years this person is going to get based on their criminal history score and there's a grid and it's set in front of the judges and they have very little discretion to deviate from that grid the the same
commission works on um you know recommending lower bail and there's been a big push at a Statewide level from our top elected officials to reduce bail and get people out of facilities so we have we have those political winds blowing uh
we have for we're blessed that we have a lower crime rate uh We've we've seen crime fall markedly especially out in the county over the last 5 to 10 years so we've got that factor going on and
these I I I did caution when when we met with uh commissioner giny and commissioner Heinen that these are all subject to The Winds of political change as well and at some point I have to believe that people are going to get tired of being in the same situation as
commissioner ginsky experienced where someone is not held accountable to the expectation that the public has I think that on a national level we've seen those winds change defitely and even on a state level I think that those winds are shifting with the um the balance of
power so I I think it's difficult to look out into the future and say that this is definitely going to continue uh we could see those winds continue to blow and now more people are being incarcerated and people want decide that there's a need to have
greater accountability and that would definitely affect the numbers that we have just just a little FYI the two individuals that stole my fishs one was been arrested 51 times and one was 38 what yeah and they were still walking the
street they got out with no bail 11 hours later wow so as I said I I have to believe that at some point you're going to see the public reach their break well a good examp how frustrated he is about how many times they're arrested you know
and Sher if you know you know in my time the jail medical and just went nuts I mean from where we were it went nuts for in the last four years yeah and it went prior to that you know and I always question like we need to go out for bids you know how that worked um but there's
nothing you can do about it I mean we're but we're wasting our officers time you know it's like they get to the point where why do we want to even do this cuz they're going to be out tomorrow yeah is it worth doing all of our reports just so they can be entrenched in your work to want to arrest somebody that we know
who they are we know where they've been and they'll be out tomorrow oh yeah and it's everything from well they the the vehicle they got to steal my fish house was stolen they I mean they rented it with a fake driver's
license and a stolen credit card there's no accountability and what are you teaching Crooks just keep doing it yeah just keep doing Crooks instead of Commissioners you know and this is going on in the metro metro area too you know and and with you know what happened
with Co things changed too D drastically you know but it is disappointing that everything is just escalating and there's nothing we can do about it that's that's my problem keep feeding the monster nothing we can do about it maybe our best our best solution is what
Sheriff he said the political winds are going to change and you know but you got to give you got to give the sheriff department credit they're letting everybody out but yet our number of crimes have went down in our County right so I mean you got to be doing something right to get that number to go
in the right direction when you know the crooks are still walking the street but when this happens we let these major criminals off and and one of the things that I didn't bring up was the fact that and I did talk to my attorney on this one too
but one of the things that I they stole the fish house with a U-Haul truck a small U-Haul truck yep they pulled my inch or two and 516 hitch fish house with an inch and 78 ball if that comes off and kills a
family of four they're still coming after me because I didn't have a trailer lock on it oh yeah even though it was in a locked fence which they broke into they're still coming after me didn't mean they were going to win but I didn't go through every precaution to
not have that stolen like you got all that time in oral right it's you they were one bump away from that thing coming off yeah yeah Mi Mr chair you know Troy we're not Sheriff we're not here to put you on the spot or anything we we're just we're
just frustrated that's all and just sharing our op and I commend every one of your people that that helped out in this they from from the time that was reported to the time it was located was like 2 hours hour and a half they they
did a phenomenal job they they found all the footage they did their due diligence they did everything they possibly CAU in realistically they should have been tracking this criminal with you know they should have implanted something into him to track him after longer in the political winds
change that so your staff all the way down to the deputy Thomas taking the initial call to was it who was the detective uh right Brinkman or Reese perhaps Reese Reese and then it it
was yeah kudos to your whole staff and and maax yeah Mr chair as frustrating as it is for us on the board um I can't imagine being one of the officers going out and making these arrests the same
arrests possibly day after day after day and how frustrating that is to come back with with the same person I mean it it's it's got to be frustrating cuz your hand are tied too it's craziness I've been in this job long enough now that I think I've reached a few third generation
Crooks so yeah they they had it about 11 or 12 hours and there was drugs every I mean needles you name it and I can say that I don't I don't care I'm not not giving names but it they
they they're looking at totaling my fish house right now and I'm going to take a bath on it and these guys get out yeah it's it's an absolute joke yeah so that's all I got thanks Sheriff thank you thank
you so we'll take a two-minute break or whatever and then we'll close session and do our okay e e e e e
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