Just a second. Please join us for the >> leiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. >> All commissioners are present. approve or amend the agenda. >> M we have one item to amend. It's uh land services. If we could please add it as the second item at 9:35 under Rox and Aman land service director, please. It
was the Hopoc LLC agreement. And that's all we have. Move for approval of the amended agenda. Mr. there. >> Second. >> A motion a second. Any further discussion on this? Now to call a question. All in favor say I.
>> I oppose. Motion carries. County board meetings are broadcasted live and video recorded on YouTube. Please refrain from speaking from the audience here in podium. There we go. My mic is on now.
Well, the county board observes Robert's rules of orders for its meeting. So, please obtain the board's chair's consent before addressing the county board. Public comments are generally reserved for the open forum segment or public hearings. However, public comment on other agenda items may be allowed at
the discretion of the board chair as we begin today. Please turn off the cell phones or turn them on by break. Thank you. Open forum. No one was. >> No one. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh consent agenda item one, two, and three. What would we like
to do with that? >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. We got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on those items? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. I. Opposed. Motion carries.
So, Monty. So, so m what we'd like to do is is since Amanda's here to take care of all of her items first. So, we'd like to recess county board and then we'll do an EDA on the um the loan issue and then we'd like to then do an HRA uh meeting
next and then we'll come back to county board because the the county board item next requ is essentially adopting the HRA recommendation. So, >> ADA then HR. >> Okay. So, at this time, we'll recess the regular board meeting to conduct an
economic development authority and the housing and redevelopment authority uh meeting. Okay, >> Monty, >> excuse me. EDA Monty, are you going to run this one for >> sure? Of course, I I can I can do this
from here. So, Mr. Chair, uh we're call to order. We're roll call with note that all folks are here and we need nominations for an EDA chair. This is our first meet of the EDA of the so we need to have an EDA chair. Are there nominations for EDA chair? >> I'll nominate Commissioner Heinen for chair. >> I'll second that.
>> And the nominations for chair of the EDA hearing. None. All those in favor of Commissioner Hin as EDA chair, please say I. >> I. >> Thank you very much. Mr. Chair, could you please take over from now on? >> Uh, sure. Number two, chair of EDA. Uh, select a vice chair. I nominate
Commissioner Johnson. >> I'll second. >> I got a motion and a second. Any more nominations? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. >> Okay. Consent agenda item one. Approve
or amend the economic development authority meeting minutes December 16th, 2025. >> So move, Mr. Chair. >> Second. >> Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on that? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I oppose. Motion carries. Thank you,
Amanda. >> Good morning. >> Good morning. Good morning. >> Morning commissioners. Um >> in front of your uh you this morning we have um a discussion item um regarding
uh action on a bankruptcy filing from L by LBT Concrete. Um this was a previously approved economic development revolving loan that um was approved back in 2022. and I'll just kind of give you a little
bit of background on it and then um a little bit of a discussion on what our next steps are. Um so in 2022 the Benton um I'm sorry Benton County Economic Development Authority approved a microloan to LBT Concrete for 81,500
to assist them with financing costs associated with the acquisition of um inventory machinery and equipment um related to the purchase of Southside gravel um in Royaltton. The project cost was approximately 815,000.
Um we have uh included in your packet the participation from Farmers Emer State Bank, the Initiative Foundation in Benton County. So all of those participating entities were um involved in this overall uh microloan request. Um
the loan was structured with the following security and collateral positions. um a promisary note in the amount of 815 um that's the county's portion of the revolving loan um with a fixed interest rate of 4 um.7%
and it was to mature on April 1st of 2027. Um they have a second lean um security interest in equipment u machinery and inventory um and then we also have a per personal guarantee um executed by Leroy Tresco.
Um the project itself uh created six full-time jobs and um 15 um six full-time the retention of six full-time jobs and the creation of 15 full-time jobs. they did meet those um goals at
that time. Um and so we continued to report on that loan um and ended reporting at the state. They met all those goals. So um the current status of that particular loan um BEP and Benton County
Economic Development Authority received notice that um Leroy Tresco filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Um the bankruptcy identifies LBT concrete and Southside gravel uh associated uh business business entities and the filing date
was January 22nd of 2026. Um we also uh received notice of public disposition um for their machinery and equipment. Um the notice states that collateral secured under that alone agreement would
be sold through a public auction beginning May 13th and through May 20th. Um their collateral is to was to be liquidated um with various pieces of a construction equipment, machineries tool
and inventory. Um the bankruptcy notice establishes a deadline of July uh 21st of 2026 um for creditors um such as the economic development authority to file proof of claim and this proof of claim is to
secure interest in the amount owed to the county. So um coordinating with um our legal counsel regarding the preparation and submission of this proof of claim is also in your packet. Um, of course, you
know, with these, uh, revolving loans, um, as the county board knows that often times, you know, we are in subordinate positions on these loans. We could be in second or third positions. The goal of the revolving loan fund is really to um
uh help businesses grow and expand in our county, create jobs, um and really uh understanding that the county may be in those second or third positions um puts us at a higher risk than other
types of um conventional financing means, right? So, um, understanding that and the position that we are in, we're actually in a really good position because we have those security agreements and those recorded recorded UCCC filings on the machinery and
equipment as with any loan. Um, so any proceeds received from any of those public auctions would go to pay the um first, second, and and potentially third um lean position and creditors um
through that process. So the proof of claim really in this bankruptcy um filing would uh preserve the county's right to participate any bankruptcy distributions. As I mentioned, um it
asserts that it's uh a secured creditor status and claim any unsecured uh deficiency balance remaining after the collateral liquidation. If the county does not file this claim, recovery opportunities may be lost, which includes the personal guarantee
enforcement of Leroy Tresco. Um however because the the guarantee personally filed chapter 7 um bankruptcy the guarantee may be un ultimately be discharged unless the debt falls into a non-dischargeable category.
Um there's any fraud or misrepresentation misrepresentation or misuse of funds that can be proven or any assets that remain available in the bankruptcy at state after liquidation. So really um the next step for the
county to secure our position and to um potentially retain any uh um collection of our our loan would be to file this um proof of claim paperwork.
Um couple things to note. Uh LBT Concrete is still paying on their loan um with the county. they are still current. Um because we're a government entity, there's certain indications where um
chapter 7 doesn't um necessarily prohibit them from paying a government loan, right? So, we are still receiving um payments every month. Um I just got the report this morning for the payment for last month. Um they
are still current on their loan. So this is just um an additional security measure for us to make sure that we retain uh any funds from the proceeds of that public sale. So, um, with that,
um, you have all of the attachments, including the original request for action, the chapter 7, um, notice, the notice of public disposition, proof of claim form, and then all the loan agreements and security agreements that went along with this particular loan.
Um, it's not very often we see loans like this go to Chapter 7. I have never in my time working in economic development um seen this type of situation happen before. So it's not very common. Um typically um we we don't
have any issues with with loans like um of this size. So, but that being said, there's always that risk um especially when we're doing um you know, revolving loans through, you know, for businesses in our community to help them succeed
and grow their operations. So, it's unfortunate, but sometimes that does happen. Um, so with that, um, I'm asking the Economic Development Authority to really take action on filing this proof of
claim form and, um, I'm happy to answer as many questions as I can answer at this point. >> Commissioner Johnson, >> thank you, Mr. Chair. Amanda, a couple questions. You referenced our attorney. Are you talking about BEP's attorney or county attorney? >> BP is attorney. >> Also, um, you said that he's current.
You have a current balance there. >> Yes. Um, actually just pull up the report. >> 54,037. >> Thank you. >> 54,037. >> $54,3720, >> Mr. Chair.
>> Yep. >> Um, h has there been any conversation with LBT and and the owner? I mean, is it just hard time? I mean, what happened? >> Um, they they closed their doors. I mean
they I just you know without going into a lot of detail um the operation wasn't successful. >> Okay. >> Um Amanda as as you know and I know that they had another operation. Did they do close all their operations or just this
entity of their op? >> This entity as far as I understand. >> Okay. >> And really that's the only one that we're concerned about. I know it was the only one we were involved in. Um, you know, at the time
the equipment was in really good shape, but had some age on it when we did this loan. And I was wondering if they nobody knows if the equipment's still in if they're going to sell off the equipment, if it's still in good shape, or is it >> they had the public auction. Um, I'm not sure what the results are from that
public auction. Um but when we collateralize equipment or machinery um there is a schedule there that uh is there's some depreciation over time that we account for when we collateralize loans.
>> Commissioner Johnson >> Amanda um do you know if if they're current on their other loans? >> Any idea? >> I haven't asked. >> Okay. board. What would you like to do with this? >> I think we got to support it. So, I'll
make a motion. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, the motion will be to submit a proof of claim. >> Correct. >> Matter. >> Okay. >> Y >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh any other discussion on this item? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I.
>> I. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Okay. With that, nothing else for this one. Right. With >> no sir, we're done. We can move on to H. will adjourn the EDA at 9:14 and now we'll go to H. >> So, a bit of housekeeping first, Mr. Chair, since it's the first meeting of
the year, uh we need so uh looks like everyone is here. Uh we need to select an H president for 26 and I'd like to ask for nominations for H president for 26. >> I'll nominate Commissioner Hein. >> Commissioner has been nominated. They nominate that. It's been seconded. All those in favor of Commissioner Hein as H
president, please say I. >> I. >> Thank you. >> Uh M. So, Mr. Mr. President, if you can move on to number two again, just again more house housekeeping. The H has a few more officers than >> Thank you. Select an H vice president. I'll nominate Commissioner Johnson. >> I'll second it.
>> Second. >> Got a motion and a second. Any other nominations? >> If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I opposed. Motion carries. Now we'll select a secretary. >> Anybody interested? >> I'll nominate Commissioner uh Benoy.
I'll second. Okay, we got a motion and a second for secretary. Any other nominations? If not, I'll call call it. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. And then uh Monty, the executive director
normally is the administrator. >> Yes, sir. >> So, I'll nominate our administrator, Monte Hedley. >> I'll second. >> As the executive director. Got a motion, a second. Any further discussion? Call the question. All in favor say I.
>> I oppose. Motion carries. Thank you. Uh consent agenda item one. What would we like to do with that, please? >> I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes for August 19th, 2025. >> Second. >> A motion and a second. Any further discussion? I'll call the question. All
in favor say I. >> I. Motion carries. Regular agenda. >> And is this going to be Monty or are you? >> No. Amanda's got this whole program. >> That's right. >> Okay. Amanda, >> Amanda Show. >> Yeah, it's Amanda Show today. Um, thank
you, uh, commissioners. Um, in your packets this morning, you have a consideration, um, for TTT Development LLC on an affordable housing development loan request. Um, and I'll just kind of give you a little bit of background um,
before we kind of dive into the actual project a little bit. But, uh, TTT Development is an a affiliated entity of Sand Companies. Um, they're proposing the construction of a new 48 unit affordable multifamily housing
development located um on 8th Avenue Northwest in Sock Rapids. The project is being developed as a 100% um low-income housing tax credit um project, LITC. So, if I refer to LITC, that's what that means. It's a low income housing tax
credit program. Um they'll provide uh long-term affordable housing opportunities for Benton County residents. Um if you're not familiar with Sand Companies, um Sand Companies is a very reputable um housing developer in um the Wake Park area in our region.
Um they develop a lot of um affordable housing projects and um also um others as well. So uh all of 48 of those units will be restricted um to households earning at
or below 60% area median income. Approximately half of the units serving households at or below 50% AMI um area median income. The development will also include per permanent um supportive housing units for individuals experiencing um homelessness and persons
with disabilities through housing support and rental assistance programs which we heard earlier um this year about the housing support that the county is um allocating um to a project. So it'll be utilizing those housing
supports. Um affordability restrictions will remain in place for a minimum of 50 years. So, the project will be held and owned by um TTT development um the affiliated of sand companies for um 50 years ensuring long-term community
benefit. Um the proposed project itself in your packet you have uh kind of a a highlight of uh Viewpoint Apartments which is located in weight park. Um this project is um currently under
development. It'll be very similar type of project. So, I'm just going to kind of run through that for the public. Um, so it's a a proposed three-story elevator uh served building represents an estimated $22.4 million investment to Benton County. Um, this particular
project will be financed through a combination of low-income housing tax credit equity, Minnesota Housing Resources, and conventional financing, deferred financing, and lo local housing funds. Um and the local housing funds represent the county's housing trust fund um dollars that are allocated to
the county um through the uh SAHA program. So the state affordable housing aid program um the applicant they have requested a $200,000 loan from Benton County Housing Trust Fund at 2% interest um with a
17-year term and a 30-year AM. And the reason they've asked for this particular structure is that um their financing with Minnesota housing particularly requires them to finance um um within
like like terms of Minnesota housing's loan requests. Okay. Um the housing trust fund participation from the county will help leverage significant state, federal, and private investment. Um while supporting the creation of uh
crit critically needed affordable housing units in the county. And as you're familiar with our countywide housing study that was completed in May of 2023, um that housing study showed um a need for approximately 3,800 housing
units over the next 10 years throughout the county. So, this particular project helped support 48 um new units in our county. Um the BEP loan committee reviewed the request on May 20th, 2026 and
recommended approval to Benton the Benton County Housing and Redevelopment Authority. Um this is the opportunity for the redevelopment authority to to ask questions um comments and review the entire project as presented to um as it was presented to the loan committee as
well. So um as I mentioned it identifies the goals identified in the housing study that we um participated in a couple years ago. The development aligns with the housing trust fund's mission to increase housing availability and affordability throughout Benton County.
Um, the attached funding commitment and acceptance letter within your packet, I'm going to explain that a little bit, um, establishes the terms for the proposed housing trust fund loan and authorizes staff to proceed with the underwriting and loan documentation. It
does not, um, it's really uh, if you think about this uh, comm funding commitment and acceptance letter, it's committing to the project. um we do not have um and will not pull together all the loan docs or any of that information until we know from
Minnesota Housing that this project is accepted and they are awarded um funding through Minnesota Housing. So, does that make sense? It's just um I if you think about it as a letter of support uh and commitment for this project.
Uh the commitment outlines the proposed loan amount, eligible uses of the fund, affordability requirements, and standard closing conditions including the verification of any financing sources, site control, insurance, title work, regulatory compliance, and the execution of any loan and
security documents. Approval of this commitment does not authorize the im immediate dispersement of funds but demonstrates the HA support for the project as I mentioned. Um and a couple things to note. Uh this particular loan request does deviate
from the original policy that we put in place um through the Minnesota uh through our the county's housing trust fund. However, um our uh policy also provides some flexibility in particular
projects such as this um to uh be flexible with financing and the terms because really at the end of the day, we don't know what types of projects would be able to to utilize those funds through the housing trust fund program.
um because the SAHA program um has affordability requirements um that require deeply affordable housing units. Um it makes it really difficult to utilize those funds, right? So, um we
really weren't sure uh originally we structured the the policy and the program as a upfront construction loan um shortterm. However, that does not align with the Minnesota Housing's requirement for financing for this
particular project. And hopefully that makes sense. Um so the recommendation that we're looking um from the housing and redevelopment authority um to the county board is for a housing trust fund
loan commitment of up to 200,000 to TTT Housing um or an affiliated ownership entity with a a 2% interest term and a 30-year AM. Um the funds will be used for eligible construction costs associated with project hard
construction cost only. Um no soft costs. The HA uh may recommend approval approval with conditions or denial of the request and I will open it up for any questions um from the board.
>> So Amanda, I sit on the BP loan committee too. I guess one of the biggest questions were is that if this remains in place the restrictions for 50 years that means they cannot sell the building >> correct >> for that 50 years do we have to have
something in writing about that? >> Um it'll be within our uh >> agreements um that they have to hold those um or hold the uh apartment and and ownership >> because that was the biggest one of the
biggest questions we had in And I just want to also mention that Nikki Sand is online. So if you have any specific questions regarding the project itself, she is online as well. >> Thank you. >> And actually I have Megan Car here as well. >> Hi. Oh, I'm sorry. This is Megan. It's
okay. We're both on the same line. >> Perfect. >> Um so it's actually we um the property can be sold before the 50 years, but the affordability will remain for 50 years. So even if it transfers to a different owner, um it it needs to be affordable
for 50 years. And our plan like we always try to hold property long-term. So we're looking at it for at least, you know, 25 30 plus years, but I just wanted to clarify that. I didn't want to be misle misleading at all. >> Well, thank you for that information. Commissioner Johnson, you had a question.
>> Amanda, just to um clarify, you said the interest rate at 2%'s coming because of Minnesota housing requirement, >> correct? Yeah. Commissioner Bonite, >> Amanda, this is the the units we went and looked at in St. Joe, correct?
>> Um, so in St. Joe, yes, that was another project that they built in our region is St. Joe. They have a project under construction in in Way Park and another one being built in Sartell. And and did I read something right when I was reading through that whole thing
that if it does transfer to another entity then the loan needs to be paid in full? >> So there's some stipulations on um the requirements of that. So, typically how we word that in our contract documents
is that they need to ask permission from the county board to assign that into um a new ownership entity. So, there needs to be um the county board needs to to approve that transfer or that assignment
>> and then if the board doesn't approve it, then they have to pay. >> They have to make the payment. Okay. >> Okay. >> Mr. Chair, I I Commissioner Benoy and I did tour this and and I thought the the buildings were quite impressive
>> and I was impressed. >> Yep. So, I would support something like this in our area and and and the housing study clearly shows that the need is there too. >> And you did say Sartell, but it's Sock Rapids, right? >> It is Sock Rapids.
>> They're bu they um are under contract and are constructing a project in Sartell. Okay. So, so it's uh St. Joe Way Park in Sartell. >> I see. Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. Is Amanda, is City of Sock Rapids on board or yet or not?
>> Um maybe Negan Megan or Nikki, you can answer that. Um and I'm not sure where you're at with um acquisition of of the land yet. >> Yeah, we have the site under contract. Um it is the site just north of Casey's
off of Highway 15. Um, city staff is supportive of bringing the project forward to council. Um, we're looking at doing that after we get selected. Um, just due to um there will
be there will be a need for a variance on the project. Um well, we're ask potentially asking for one. Um but the kind of how we're going forward with it now versus there's two ways we could do it before the application is due to Minnesota housing or after we get selected. And we've made the decision to
go forward after we're selected. Um but we feel like hopefully um through education at the council and other tours with council members um that we will hopefully garnish their support after selection.
Okay. >> Any other questions, board? >> We're happy to answer any other questions you guys have as well. >> What would you like to do with this board? >> I I'll make a motion to move forward. >> I'll second. Okay, we've got a motion
and a second to move forward with the uh trust fund loan. Any other questions? Any comments? >> If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you, Nikki and Megan. >> Thanks, everybody. >> Thank you. Okay. Is that it? >> Um I think >> anything else, Amanda? >> Not not for this agenda. I think I'm good with this. >> You good with this one?
>> Um I maybe I should just also mention our um our balance in our uh housing trust fund. Yes. >> So that we have it on the record. >> Just wrote it down here. Um >> 97,000.
>> Oh jeez. just just wrote it down. That's roughly 297. Yeah, $297,370.30. It'll bring us just under $100,000, but that fund account is in a money market
account. It earns interest. Um so that housing trust fund will continue to to earn interest over the months. Um and this and these funds will not be expended until um they receive approval from Minnesota Housing that they can
move forward with the project. Right. So that just stays in our account until um until they receive approval. >> Do they have a timeline when they expect to receive approval? >> I believe it's at the end of December. >> Oh, okay. >> It's it's a fair amount of time yet. >> Yeah,
>> Mr. Chair. And that 297's from our three allocations from the states of our because we haven't expended anything. We haven't expended anything. It's It's really honestly um difficult because of the restrictions that they put in place >> for those funds um to expend those dollars.
>> This is a perfect project for it. >> Okay. Anything else, Amanda? >> I don't have anything for on this agenda. >> Great. Thank you. Well, >> we'll uh we'll adjourn this meeting and now we'll uh reconvene our regular board meeting.
Monty >> or is it Amanda again? >> Amanda, did you need a recommendation? >> We already We did. We already did that. Sorry. >> Nope. That's all right. >> Yeah, >> you just stepped out.
>> So, Monty, >> consider the TNT development affordable housing development loan request. Is that >> Amanda? >> Back to Amanda again. >> Yeah. Okay, let's do her. >> All right. Um, so back on um the county board agenda, we have um approval. So
the HA um just recommended approval to the county board um to approve the TTT LLC, affordable housing development loan request. Um, and this loan request again is um a loan commitment of up to 200,000
for TTT housing um or an affiliated ownership entity under the terms outlined in the funding commitment and acceptance letter um and authorizing the execution of the commitment documents subject to final underwriting, legal review, and the satisfaction of all program requirements. So, we're asking
for that motion and to execute that um funding commitment and acceptance letter this. >> So, moved. >> I'll second. >> We got a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Uh Monty, I think it
would be good for you to explain this or after we're done with this action item of why we had to go through the H and then back to the board with this. So, for the public. Okay. >> Do do you want me or >> Amanda is probably a better position to
>> So the um housing trust fund was actually established under the HA um and we're expending funds from the HR um housing trust fund which needs to be um first um presented to the HA and then
final approval from the county board and that's how the policy is written. I just wanted to clarify that for the public. >> Yep. >> Okay, we've got a motion and a second on this item. Any further discussion? Not to call the question. All in favor say I. >> I.
>> I. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you, Amanda. >> Thank you. >> Next. Government Center. >> Jim, >> good morning, commissioners. >> Morning. >> Don't worry, I won't take as long. It's all right. It's all good.
>> So, um, we're really in a good place over there. We're coming along really well. Start out with the numbers like I typically do. Right now, we're at a little bit of north of 10% of our contingency, which is in a wonder of our of yeah, of our contingency, which is a a great place to be in right now. Um,
considering how far we are into the into the project. Um, we're about 34% of our general conditions have been spent. Um, which is right about where we should be, probably a little bit south of where we should be. So, we're in good position there as well. Um, as far as progress on
the on the structure itself on the outside, you've probably seen the progress with the brick and the stone. Um, we'll be done coming across the front uh surf or the the north face um uh with brick and stone probably by the end of the monthish. Um there's a lot of
detail work around the new entryway and then up along the top of the roof too. So, um you'll be seeing them work on that for a couple of weeks yet. Um other than that, most of the work is happening inside. Um before I take you
to the schedule on the inside, um after we're done with the brick and stone outside, we're going to start looking at cleaning up the site, doing the final grade, getting the pond graded out in the back so that by the end of summer, we can be putting in the the parking lot, the curbs and gutters, the
landscaping, and all of that. I'll come back to the landscaping here at the end. Um on the inside of the building, starting up on the second floor, we're completely framed. Um all the framing is done up there and almost all roughed in. So all the the sprinkler, the electric,
the plumbing, almost all of that is done except for some detail work and pretty much ready for sheetrock up there. Uh down on the first floor, um we are mostly uh framed. Um and we have a healthy amount of roughins done. Uh just
yesterday we poured the final bit of slab on grade which was a a wet corner in the northwest of the building that we had to kind of wait for it to dry out and wait for some roofing to be done there. That's all complete now. So that area will be framed as well. Um if you
think about back to the plans that would be the area that the uh the DMV would occupy licensing. So that'll be framed out here in the coming weeks as well and roughed in. um that will pretty much carry us through the next month. After
that, through that through the uh July and August time frame, we're going to be looking at sheetrock, uh windows, um all of that. That's going to take better part of a month or two to get all that done. Um get windows in, get a healthy start on the sheetrock. So,
schedule-wise, we're we've uh we've really made a lot of progress over the last couple months. Eric's done a wonderful job over there pushing the schedule. So, I'm really happy with where we're at. Um, I mentioned landscape earlier. Um, next time I come to you, um, I'll be
asking you guys to approve some landscape bids. Um, that's an owner item that we, uh, bid out for you. Um, technically it's, uh, wasn't bid out, it was quoted. >> Um, which is an important distinction. Um, we have have received three quotes.
the quoting period is over and um it seems like the the low bid is going if we take irrigation um is likely to be um around 65,000. Um there's some vetting of these bids left to do. So I don't want to get too far into the details,
but it seems like uh the new landscape plan shaved some off versus the original landscape plan. And we've had a lot of interest from some local contractors on this which helped drive those numbers down. So, um, it looks like we could probably have some funds left over from the landscaping that we might need to
allocate other places in the future, but we'll talk about that next time. Um, before I move on to the security bid, do we have any questions for uh either the financials or the schedule? All right. So, moving on to the security
bid. Um, as you remember, we bid out uh the security package. So, this is the card readers, the cameras, all the things. Um, all all those types of items. Um, we uh are recommending that we award the contract to Brothers Fire
and Security. Brothers Fire and Security had a bid of $230,000. Um, and so we're uh I believe Monty included that contract in the packet. Correct. So, um I'm assuming you've had some time
to review that. Is there any questions on that at all, >> Commissioner Minsky? >> I don't have any questions. We went through this quite quite a bit and and uh but they're going to be held to the standard. >> Yeah. Yeah. And to be completely honest,
um they had some discrepancies up front. Um we documented those discrepancies. We made sure that they understand that uh they need to honor their base bid or walk away from it. and go to the next. They chose to honor their base bid. So, included in the contract as an addendum
is a letter um acknowledging that they're not going to be recouping that money at any point. So, and part of our job or my job as the PM is to um watch out for, you know, any superpherous change orders down the road where they're trying to recoup some of their
money. So, I'm I'm happy with with where we're at and comfortable um asking that we award it to brothers for the that amount. >> Yep. >> Any questions, board? >> I'll make a motion to approve the
Brothers Fire and Security Contract. >> Second. >> We got a motion and a second. Any further questions on this? Thank you for holding them to accountable for that letter. Appreciate that.
>> Any other questions or concerns? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. >> All right. See you guys next month. And as always, you know how to get a hold of Eric and I. So if anything comes up in the meantime. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Commissioner Gapinsky, too,
for working on that. >> Dawson took a lot of Sorry, Dawson. Trying to go paperless here with a >> wow flip. >> It took you 23 years. It's a brave new world. >> I just said one eye, Mr. Chair. You've
been asked by Pine County to consider participating in a uh discussion on regional jail opportunities. Uh you have the letter in your packet from the Pine County administrator uh Joshua. And I believe this was sent to the
counties of Aken, Carlton, Chicago, Santi, Kabic, Max, and Morrison. Uh, and they identified some possible dates in July. So, first I I wanted to ask, do you all have an interest in participating in this discussion with
this group of folks? I'm seeing nods of yes >> and hurt. No, we need we need to look at >> um uh I believe it's probably appropriate then to identify a board member or two or who would like to participate in this
discussion. >> Well, I did look at my calendar and I'm open on the three dates that they >> okay >> that they have listed in there. >> Do they let me I should go here. Do they they try and impose any limits on us here? Um,
I don't it says Oh, it says they you'd like to invite your county board, county administrator, another county represent. So, they kind of leave it open. I guess obviously we probably want to keep it to no more than two. >> Yeah. >> So, we don't have a quorum issue. >> Going to have time. Commissioner Gapinsky,
>> I I would like to be on it with Commissioner Benoy then, but uh I I think having two would be great just because of >> potential time constraints on >> Oh, that's true. Yeah. So you have backup. Yeah, >> totally agree with that. >> I'd consider being an alternate if one of them needs replacement.
>> Absolutely. >> So if I understand correctly, Commissioner Boy, Commissioner Kapinsky, and then Commissioner Johnson as a backup. Could you have a motion to that effect then for us? >> I'll move that, Mr. Chair. >> And I'll second that. >> So we got plenty of heads up. >> Yeah, we got a motion to have
Commissioner Bono and Commissioner Gapinsky on the board and Commissioner Johnson as the alternate. >> Any further discussion on that? If not, call a call a caution. All in favor say I. >> I opposed. >> And I answer a motion because we add that to our committee listing. You know that you we we get the first of the
year. So that's all I had, Mr. Chair. Thank you. >> You're done. Great. Okay. Next. Roxan Land Service. Consider the final plat. >> Benson Estates. >> Morning. >> Good morning. >> Morning. >> Uh before you, we have the final plat of
Benson Estates. Um this plat is in Maywood Township. It's a two lot plat and it's not actually creating any new uh residential lots. It's platting off two existing homes from the egg land. Um so the planning commission did review
this on June 11th at a and a public hearing was held. There was no comment. The planning commission recommended approval. >> Thing I'll uh mention, Mr. Chair, is interesting. The party that was there, I think the gal said that all I got to do that's the quickest meeting and they
were out the door. So with that, I will move approval of the final plat of Benson Estates and authorize the chair to sign the final plat. >> I'll second that, too. >> Okay, we got a motion and a second. Any questions, further discussions on this item? >> Not to call the question. All in favor
say I. >> I. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Okay, Roxan. All right. So, the next one is um requesting to enter a professional services agreement with Hopdocs LLC to provide entities other another option
for submitting recordable documents electronically to the recorder's office. So, this is just broadening the um options available to um title companies and uh other entities to submit documents for e-recording.
there's no cost to the county. Um these folks do receive the costs. Um so it's like $3 to $5 to submit a document through that service. So that is directly um proportion to the applica whoever is submitting through that
submitter. So just looking to enter into that agreement. >> So move Mr. Chair. >> Second. >> Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on this? If not to call the question, all in favor say I. >> I motion carries. Thank you.
>> All right. >> Thanks. >> If you wouldn't mind, I'd just let you know we did have amnesty day on Saturday. Um I'll have Luke come and give you a presentation on the final total numbers of everything collected at a later date, but it was a successful event and we served 2, no 657 vehicles
came through. >> Wow. >> So, >> Mr. Chair, with that and I'm glad you brought that up. Thank you for the time you put in and your staff. I know it was a very big and busy day. I got there around 1:00 and there were double lines. >> It was non-stop cars. >> That was up front kind of checking you
in mentioned they were stacked all the way back to the stoplight at 23 and 25. >> Oh my, it's busy. >> So, and of course, >> I mean, I wish we had a way to serve them even better. Um, get them off the off the uh road, but um
>> yeah. No. Well, thank you. >> Everybody was patient and and grateful for the opportunity to get rid of some junk. >> Yeah. Thank you so much. >> That's good. Thank you very much. >> Okay. At this time, we're going to recess our regular board meeting and turn it over to Commissioner Johnson for
the Bettton for the ditch authority meeting. >> All right, we'll call our ditch authority meeting to order at 9:46. Uh, all members are present. Um, any additions or changes? You have anything, Adam? >> I have one addition. Okay. It's a letter from a land owner that I'd like to just
discuss and get on record with you all. >> Okay. >> All right. Is there a motion to approve the agenda? >> So, move a move. >> Okay. We have a motion and uh >> second. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I oppose is carried. Uh open forum. I don't believe anyone's here or online. I
don't think. Um consent agenda. Approve or amend the ditch authority meeting minutes of May 19th. >> I'll make a motion. Second. >> Okay. Motion, a second to approve the consent agenda. All those in favor? I >> I opposed. It carries. Regular agenda items. Consider the quotes received for
CD3 tree removal. Adam, that's >> good morning commissioners and chair. I'm just going to pull this up here. All right. So, at one of our previous uh meetings, we discussed that county ditch
3 had part or only one side of the buffer strip was removed of trees and brush. Um, and it was of discussion that we should get quotes out there to see how expensive it would cost to do the other side. Um, because it is the drainage authorities's request to have all both sides of the buffer strip
removed of of trees and brush to make it easier for for maintenance in the future. Um, so like I stated, the RFQ, the request for quotes was due May 29th at noon. Two quotes were submitted. Um, one
was from Cars Tree Service, who is the individuals who will be doing the 9 and 14 maintenance this year, just letting you guys know. Um, and then we also had a second quote by Capsner Excavating. Um both those quotes are are fairly close to each other which I believe you know
it is a good thing that that you know it's similar services. Um cars tree service did come in a little lower at 24,350 and capser came in at $26,100. Both of these numbers are uh not to
exceed number just to to inform you of that. Um, regarding assessments for the maintenance, um, I know I asked Jackie Trout and our auditor treasurer, um, kind of how our balance was in
county ditch 3. Um, as you know, there was a repair a few years back on county ditch 3, and there's about $9,500 that is still being repaid from that repair. And our auditor told me that that will
be that remaining balance of the 9500 will be completed in 2030. And so in four years from now that that repair will be fully paid for. Um other than that, we also have a maintenance fund for that ditch that we've been
collecting for um this year and I think last year we may have assessed some maintenance funds. Um, our maintenance fund right now sits at $11,68645. Um, and that's what we currently have
for that for that ditch for maintenance. Um, so yeah, my discussion to you all is I know our maintenance fund is is sitting at about a little bit more than half of what these uh quotes came back at. Um, I know in the past we've, you
know, taken money from other other funds and then repaid in future assessments. Um, so I guess it's up to you all if you want to go forward with these quotes or wait until um a further year where we we may have some more funds in the
maintenance fund. M >> Mr. Chair, >> go ahead. >> So, Adam, when is uh Excel going to cut the trees down? Um, XL, I've talked with them a lot and they stated they'd like to do it pretty much exactly when when
these uh when one of the contractors comes out. They'd like to do it simultaneously at the same time. >> Okay, that's I was just going to ask that second question as a followup. >> So, Mr. Chair. >> Mhm. >> So, this is just for removal of what Excel cuts down.
>> No, this So, XL is only I'd say about a quarter of of the of the ditch. They have their power lines and then so the the three fours left of it is it would be all their work as well.
>> So is Excel taking the stumps out too. >> This would not be taking the stumps out. This would be grinding the stumps to grade. >> Now is Excel going to grind the stumps down? >> Uh no. Excel. >> So we've got to grind down this the stumps to from Excel then. Right. >> Correct. Excel would just be cutting the
trees probably at at knee high or or whatever the normal amount is and then um any other work would have to be done by the contractor. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Knight. >> So you said our balance in that is 11,68645.
Does that include the 5,250 for 2026? >> Yes, it includes everything that was that was paid so far. Um, I'm not sure kind of how the all the tax assessments go. You know, some people can pay that
pay that right away in 2026. And so there still may be some money left that is hasn't been paid from those property owners. >> To my knowledge, maintenance assessments are payable that year, >> right? >> They don't get spread over time.
>> Correct. So if you know this case we would approve this as maintenance it gets assessed and they have one year to pay it. >> Okay. >> But that is included in the 11,600. >> Yes. Yes. Correct. >> Adam, do you know how long these quotes
are good for? Did they >> Um I think the Capsner one stated that it was only like two weeks. I'd have to really look back at it. I don't have them on hand right here. But um I've worked obviously we've worked with cars tree service or we we will be working
with them. So um I don't think these quotes would be good if we waited you know another year for it. >> No >> no I I what I'm getting at is I wonder if it would be wise to wait till our August meeting and kind of get some input from who shows up on CD3.
>> It's true. >> Maybe I mean it's just another month and a half. Yeah, I can reach out to both >> yeah, >> both people who quoted here and just see how long it would be good for because I think you're right, it would be good to get some input. Um, and it also maybe
wouldn't hurt to do it in 2027 now that >> you know we know y >> this we we would have to pay $24,000 and you know we're about half that in the fund. So >> in this case, that assessment would go
up roughly up $12,000 for 27. Yeah. >> And pay for the maintenance. >> Correct. >> Because the redetermination of benefit costs and any of that was in the repair. >> Correct. >> Probably not in maintenance. >> Right. Exactly. >> Yes. >> So that's already being paid back
through the repair payments. And like I stated, that should all be all those repair should be cost or should be paid for in 2030. >> And so any future costs would would either probably go to the maintenance fund. >> Does and does this project only include the one side that wasn't done or are
they going to check buffer strips on both sides? >> Correct. This is just the one side that was not done and I forgot what year it was repaired. But >> do you have any idea of the shape of the buffer on the other side? >> Um, as far as I can tell, it it looks, you know, pretty fair. I haven't seen any super big growth. It's
>> okay. >> It's just >> kind of a wetlandish area. >> Okay. >> And so it's just kind of a lot of weeds and stuff like that. >> Okay. >> Thoughts? What would you like to do? I think wait till after >> I agree. >> August and see if they'll honor their bids until then.
>> Y >> maybe bring this back for some type of action on the meeting after the annual meeting. >> All right, that work. >> I can do that. I will reach out to the land owners. This is kind of an extraordinary maintenance project. It's kind of outside the norm. Isn't just mowing a lot, right?
>> So, I'm wondering, is it possible, can a maintenance assessment be spread over more than one year? >> I don't believe it can >> kind of soften the blow. It might be a question that perhaps Adam could pose to uh Mr. Cob, you know, because this is kind of on an extraordinary level. Reason I say that is because if you look
at CD13 or 15, some of the land owners wanted things done, but they wanted it kind of done in >> Well, if you put a $100,000 try to get $100,000 worth of work, that system pays that that year. >> Yeah. >> I don't >> Past information tells me maintenance
assessments are a one-year payment. >> Yeah. >> I think what would have to happen is is we would have to probably push if we wanted to keep it around $5,000, we would probably have to push this maintenance a couple years down the road. until we have the funds available. Um
>> well it's not you know Mr. Of course, in the past, we've fronted, >> right, >> you know, work with other dollars and then the assessment has repaided over time. >> So, >> I I still think we push it to the August and and we need to make sure that we get
the buy in from >> everybody and be prepared to give a summary or explanation to the public of what we're thinking about doing here >> because it's good that we're actually in front of it. Now, we can present them something saying, "What do you want to do?" Oh, we got to get back to you. >> Yeah,
>> that makes good sense, Mr. Chair. >> All right. Anything else, Adam? >> You had a letter, you said. >> Yep. Nothing on CD3. >> Um Yeah. So, I just wanted to go through this letter. Um the auditor received this letter. Um yesterday, June 15th,
2026. I mean, this is kind of in regards to the the CD10 hearing. Um and so it was just kind of a response to it. And then I wanted to discuss uh uh future future things to do regarding this. Um it's a two-page letter, so I'll just
read it word for word here. Um starting this is Dan Bamboom at 105014th Avenue Northeast. I'm writing to you in regards to the redetermination of benefits to ditch number 10, drainage code number 103E. 805.
At the meeting, I expressed concerns about why I'm paying for cleaning out ditch number 10, that the cleaning doesn't start till 1 and a half miles south of Mayhew Lake Dam. The watershed water from up north went 2/3 into Sucker Creek and 1/3 into Mayhew Creek. When
John Ryan, wildlife biologist, installed the barricade/bm, the watershed direction changed. Now all the water goes into Mayhew Creek, causing my ditch and my meadow to not drain properly. My meadow is so wet now that I can't make a portion of it because of the excess water flow into
the creek. My property numbers 070000500 0 also 0700005501 and lastly 070061 0 0. The H2O overviewers conducted the comprehensive travel time at 12.1 to
16hour travel time range. They stated all properties within this travel time bracket were reclassified to class 3. The H2O overviewers conducted the CD10 benefit redetermination in 2022. The barricade/bm was installed in year
2024. So I stated at the meeting all the numbers on benefit redetermination are all incorrect. They stated, "Ditch number 10 may not be physically located on my property, but have been determined to be
a benefiting landowner is flatout wrong." After the meeting, as I was walking out of the Sock Rapids Government Center, your attorney came over to me and told me I should definitely send a letter in regards to 103E. 805 drainage code to the board
about getting opted out of the ditch cleaning assessment. He stated that the circumstances that occur after 2022 benefit redetermination and being north of Mayhew Lake, I have a very good case to being opted out. Thanks again for listening to my
concerns at the meeting and taking time to read my letter. Looking forward to your response. Uh Dan Bamboo. >> So in other words, John told him that he needs to file a petition for removal. >> Yes. Um that would be the first of many
coming. Mhm. >> Well, as we heard I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, as we heard in that meeting, everyone was writing down that number, >> but they I'm they're going to have to find out that they've got to file the petition, pay for the petition, have a public hearing to be petitioned out. I
mean, it's not just like the text I was talking about earlier. He thinks just by filing the petition, he's out. >> That's good. So obviously a process and at some point you kind of want to tell them they may need to hire their
own legal counsel to walk them through this. >> Well, in the in the the Bamboo case though, shouldn't H2O and fish and and wildlife get together? >> I would say no because the H the
redetermination was done at a snapshot in time. But 2 years later something changed, >> right? But couldn't they get together and determine that without a whole lot of legal jumble bumble? >> I would bet that the only way to do that is to file for a new redetermination of benefits. >> Mhm. That's the way I see it.
>> Yeah. >> And at this point, Hoor Viewers has no liability. >> No, because they did it prior to >> and that and the public hearing was held, the 30-day appeal was held, and nothing was happened. And wasn't that cost like $80 some thousand if I
remember? >> Significant for the system. Yeah, >> for the system. Yeah. >> And and that would have to be redone for the whole system. >> Sure. >> Yeah. Uh the reason I bring up this map is uh Mr. Benoom lives around just a little bit north of Mayhew Lake. He
lives somewhere in this uh vicinity. Um so he does have Mayhew Creek going through his property. Mhm. >> Um, the reason this is tricky is because there's about, you know, 100 or so parcels north of him that are benefit to
CD10. And so if he did file this petition and he was opted out, it would be strange for a random parcel in the middle to be removed, >> right?
>> I'm not saying he's necessarily wrong, >> right? or right. Um I mean if if they did put in that BM, you know, uh in 2024, you know, then there may be some differences in the if there was a new
redetermination of benefits. But Mr. Chair, so with that BM that was put in, most of that water north of Mr. Bamboom now goes to Sucker Creek. It doesn't go to May who >> he's saying it diverted. But now he's
also saying in that letter that his pass his uh meadows flooded out. >> Yeah. >> Now >> I'm not blaming him but through the process he put the burm in with fish and wildlife. >> Well I mean he give it their they give it their blessing, >> right?
>> Yeah. He he stated in here that um it used twothirds of it used to go in Sucker Creek and one third in a Mayhew Creek and now he states now all the water goes into Mayhew Creek causing my ditch and my meadow to not drain properly. All of his water goes into May
Creek. >> So the burm diverted it out of Sugar Creek into May Creek, >> right? >> Which goes into CD10, >> but not the people that are north of him. there. It's still in May Creek. >> No, it's I would say it's going in the
Sucker Creek now when they put that burm in. >> But he's identifying changing his water. >> Yeah, his water only, right? >> Yeah. I'm not sure on this. I'm not sure if this is Sucker Creek here. This portion here. I'm I'm not exactly sure
where Sucker Creek. I know this is Mayhew Creek. Um and so yeah, I would assume a lot of it is going to Mayhew Mayhew Lake. To your point though, Adam, if you take a parcel out in the middle, all the outlet benefits from CD6 and seven are coming
through there. >> Yeah, I don't have it up right here, but the CD10 starts, you know, I think this is Cassaf over here. Starts like around a mile and a half south of May Lake. >> Created a problem for himself. >> And so there's a bunch of land up here
that is, you know, within the 24 hours that that's how the viewers did it. If your water drains to CD10 within 24 hours, >> you're benefiting. Anything over 24 hours, even if you're in the watershed, you're not a benefit.
>> And so, the reason I bring this up to you is because if I can send Mr. Bamboom a petition for removal, but I think this is a bigger issue than than it would just be his parcel. You know, we would probably have over a
hundred >> Mhm. >> Mhm. parcels, >> which is going to trigger a redetermination and another $80,000. And >> yeah, we told them that at the meeting that it's 86,000 to red. >> Could you imagine if all of let's just
say it's a 100 people get out and they petition to get this done. That whole cost of the previous one and the new one would fall under the people south >> of Mayhew Lake. redetermination, but the
petitioners would have to pay for the petition removal. >> Yeah, correct. The petitioners would have to pay for it, but then the redetermination benefits would be paid by the the new >> 100 less parcels. >> Oh, >> so means >> 100. And if I'm wrong listening to you
guys, that reermination of benefits was 86,000 when it was done in what, 2022. Well, and that was based off of a I think a $4 per acre contract >> cuz we did everything. >> Correct. They gave us they gave us a break because we did a lot most of the
ditches and so it was $4 an acre. >> But yes, that's probably going to be higher now per acre. >> Um, >> but I guess it depends on if the new redetermination of benefits includes north of of Mayhew Lake because
it's per acre. So if there's less acreage, it's going to cost less. >> But you don't know that until a new one's done, >> right? But why would the redetermination of benefits change that significantly to shrink the watershed? >> I guess to Mr. Benboom's point, he
states that, you know, Mayhew Creek or Mayhew is damned. >> Damned >> and also Sucker Creek is damned. And so maybe it would mix around parcels north of May. you like damned in 2022? >> Oh, no way. Way
>> way longer. >> Right. I mean, it's been damned. So, being damned isn't new. >> No. >> Correct. >> But we just have some land owners that state that they don't think the viewers took into consideration the dam. Um, but
as far as my talks with the viewers that yes, they understood that the dam was there. Mhm. >> Um just because there's a dam there doesn't mean no water goes through, >> right? >> It just has to get to a certain point before the water goes through. >> Well, and again, the only way to fix it
is a new to redetermination >> at their cost, >> which which was mentioned that night. >> So, and maybe we mention that at our August meeting, too. >> You know, what does the public want to
do? Do they want a total redetermination of benefits and do they want to pay for that? >> Well, and the fact of the matter is at this late point in time, hypothetically, even if H2 was wrong, there's no change to it. You can't change it. The appeal window is closed.
>> Mhm. >> It is what it is. >> You have to do it on a per partial basis with those petitions. >> Yep. >> Unless you guys approve the new redetermination. The problem with all these rules, we deal with this on a
bi-weekly, monthly basis. Most of these people don't do that. They don't understand it. And and we ask questions and we're a part of the ditch authority. >> I mean, I couldn't imagine being somebody completely green on all this going >> like we were.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, our time is up. We can't do this anymore. What do you mean? You know, >> and that that time was only like 30 days, right? >> 30-day appeal. and they were noticed. But >> but the thing is I know you're you're 100% right. I'm not saying that. But but
these days to get even an attorney involved and to go through everything and to to look at and and then file something, they would have to be on it day one in order for it to be done by day 30. >> That's what I mean. That some of this stuff is just it it's made for the
people, the common people to fail, >> right? >> Pretty much. >> It really is. >> Yeah. Well, and it probably was a state's way of protecting that system. >> I I do um let land owners know there there should there might be a petition
or two from CD10 already coming. Um I've been in the talks with some people um just regarding removing their parcels from the benefit. And I do let them know that, you know, we had those two on on CD12 that were removed. And I did let them know that the attorney's costs, all
the associated fees were around one to $2,000 plus. And so they're aware that that a single petition for your parcel could cost upwards of $2,000. Which reminds me of a question maybe you've received, but the question I got was if
they if they're a a benefiting land owner on six and seven with outlet benefits to 10, if they petition out of 10, doesn't automatically get them out of six and seven. They've got to petition each system. >> Yeah.
>> Uh I don't know the legality behind it. If you can petition to be out of an outlet benefit, I don't know if that's necessarily a thing. I think you have to petition out of the the system you're you're on. >> Where in some of those things, again,
they maybe have to refer to their own legal counsel to get those answers. >> Yeah. >> I mean, we can give them general information, but >> I usually do point them >> case drainage authorities attorneys, not the landowner's attorney. >> Right. We don't practice law, >> right? Yeah. Well, and they don't
believe our attorney anyway. >> Yeah. And I think a big issue with that August meeting, if if we do or when or if we do bring this up, you know, you're going to have the land owners north of Mayhew Lake most likely all four of benefits.
>> Mhm. because they're the most likely to get removed if maybe and not not saying most likely, but and then you're going to have the people actually that have the ditch on their system that are going to be against it because they're going to have to pay for it either way.
And so, yeah, I I I agree with you all that I think bringing this to the August meeting is is probably the best. Um I can be in talks with Mr. Bamb boom and just let him know because at at the meeting it seems like he wants to a lot of
people want to be removed but they don't want to do the redetermination of benefits >> and that's not our attorney should hopefully tell him that that's not >> so Mr. chair. Hypothetically, let's just say there's a hundred of them that want
to get out of that petition for it. Would that call for a new redetermination of benefits though and start the whole process over? >> Well, I think John that night was the ditch authority could call for redetermination. >> I mean, because with that that many
amount of people that or land owners that want to get out of it at that point in time, we'd probably have no choice but to do Well, maybe the simple question is, do you want the ditch authority to call for the redetermination at your cost? >> Yeah.
>> I mean, and if if that one group gets out of on CD10 north of Mayu Lake, what are six and seven going to do? >> I know. Cuz they're the Yeah. >> Yeah. They would they would be out, I'm assuming, of outlet benefits because
they wouldn't be >> But where's it where's it going to go? >> Right. >> Oh, no. Yeah, they would just assume that it's going to the public water system, Mayhew Creek. And >> yeah, I won't speak to I don't know how that would work if
>> if you're I think it would have to be determined on the redetermination of benefits of six and seven are still considered an outlet >> and 10. So it' be all three of them then, right, Mr. Chair? >> Well, what's the question? >> Redetmination of benefits for all three of them though, six, seven, and 10
because six, seven go into 10. >> Yeah. I don't know if six and seven would necessarily need one. I don't know if they can do it with 10 to like determine >> this is a nightmare. >> Who's benefit? >> Well, I'm back to the if they ask for a petition. I mean, there's nothing to stop us from them filing a petition.
>> Correct. >> Yeah. I can be in talks with with Mr. Beum and say that he >> he understands that filing it doesn't mean you're removed. >> Mhm. There's a whole process >> because you know our attorney is going to weigh in on >> if it's feasible,
>> how many other people are affected by this. >> Wow. >> Mhm. >> This is crazy. >> And then pays for the petition and potentially gets it denied. >> Yeah. >> And that's what I I reiterate to these petitioners >> hundreds of times that these costs are
do not go to the system. They go directly to you. You know, win or lose. So it's it's it's these costs just don't magically go away and it is their job to prove that they
are you know uh not considered a benefit anymore. It is >> probably add the comment of you may want to seek legal counsel. >> Mhm. So yes, I can you know do inspections and stuff but it is not the county's job to do it on a per partial basis.
>> All right chair. >> Yep. Go ahead. The 86,000 was that just for CD10? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is what the cost was for >> Yeah. Was broke down in he said. >> Yep. >> So, do we know what the entire cost or does anybody know what the entire cost for all the system?
>> We bid it for I don't remember. >> I don't remember what it was. >> I'd be guessing. >> I know CD10 is by far I think the biggest watershed. I'm not sure the exact acreage, but it just has so much because of Mayhew Creek. Um, so I know that they I think are the biggest, but
we would probably have to look at each system and see what was was >> that'd be easily figured out. Each system was assigned that assessment. So >> I'm just wondering before August meeting if it worth our while to get a hold of H2O reviewers and and get a ballpark
cost of what it would be. Mhm. >> So that we have that information. >> And at for at one time they had talked about and I don't know if they're offering this yet as they move forward. They were doing >> for lack of a better word a maintenance plan to redetermination of benefits where they would provide the first
redetermination and and then they would do five or 10 or 15year updates to that. >> Okay. you pay for it. But they were looking at a maintenance plan to the redetermination of benefits so that ditch authorities aren't caught in this it's done this year and not for another
75 years. >> You got to keep the determination way more current which some land owners are frustrated because people change things like I mean Benooms did this after the redetermination. We've got one over on 14 was 40 acres of woods. Once it was
done, the guy cleared it off. >> Yeah. >> So, he's getting very large benefits, but wasn't paying for that >> because that snapshot of time was woods >> or somebody tiles into the ditch system. >> Correct. >> You know, >> there's constant activity. Imagine on CD10 how many of those parcels have
changed hands when they split properties and >> so yeah, >> I think getting a ballpark price so we can throw it out there is a good idea. Yeah, maybe send get a hold of Brian and get a
>> number. In the meantime, we can easily find out what that has cost. >> Yeah, because we've got the whole system. >> So, how many people are total on ditch tent? >> Oh god, >> there's like 500 parties, right? >> But there's a hundred of them that could or roughly could come off and drive this
redetermination >> and they're just they're paying your you know they're they're costing other the other 400 people. It's it's very I don't I don't know if the right word is risky, but this redetermination of benefits could come
back nearly identical to what it is now. >> And so it could maybe take off a few parcels, but maybe it >> and it could quite frankly bring some in. >> Yeah. And so I think people might >> land owners that don't know. >> Yeah. They could be misconceived that a
new redetermination would remove everyone north of Mayhew Lake when that might not even be the case. >> You know, how much does this burm on Sucker Creek really affect >> CD10? And I'm I usually he could take that burm out >> tomorrow. That's right. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I don't know about >> I don't know fish and wild there's >> But isn't it interesting that the fish and wildlife didn't check on a county drainage system? >> Yeah, I know. I >> classic example of government entities grasses. >> There was a lot of money went into that from fish and wildlife.
>> They probably put the responsibility on the land owner because that's normally what happens, right? I mean, >> that's the one we saw on the tour, right? >> Mhm. >> So, and water >> fish was US fish and wildlife did it, but we saw it on the tour. >> We seen it on the tour. It did benefit some of them pastures that were there
because it's not longer going to be flooded all the time, >> right? >> You know, so there is a benefit that went with that. All right, you got the direction we need. >> I will reach out to the viewers, get a ballpark price. Um, they'll probably
give me per acre. >> They'll just have to assume it's going to be around the same acreage as we did for the last. >> And if you remember, maybe ask them if they've ever done anything with their maintenance program. >> All right, I can do that as well. Um, I will reach out to me or the auditor, reach out to Mr. bamboo and you know ask
if he wants a petition or if he wants to wait till the August meeting to discuss it further. Um other than that I think >> I I think we'd have better numbers then be you know by the August meeting anyway. You can let them know that too. >> It should be pretty simple for them to
get a number just by looking at what they did and take them. >> It's Yeah. It's just a matter of what they're going to charge us. >> Well, it's actually part of business. Well, I I get that. >> Anything else, Adam? >> Um, no. That should be it authority.
>> No. >> Ditch authorities adjourned at 10:19. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. Back to you. >> Reconvene the regular board meeting. Commissioner meeting updates. >> I can. >> Do you want to go through them?
>> You want to? >> It's up to the board. Don't matter. >> I'm here to there. So, >> yeah. 68 we had district meeting um uh
and it basically I I I don't have a whole lot um cuz I just attended some Menon Township meetings or some a joint powers meeting with Minden St. cloud. Um, and I had a Micah meeting and a BEP
visit with um, uh, Red's transfer, our BRE meeting with Red's transfer. >> Yeah. And M, we did get a one water one plan from Sartell going. Um, >> you know, there's not a lot of activity
that's happening. They're going to have to have an extended date because we're not going to be done by the 31st of this year. um basically some of the stuff that they want to do. They got people commenting that shouldn't do this and should do that.
So, they're going to extend that out. Um the district meeting was I thought the district meeting was better than the last some of them in the past. It was a little more >> pretty light on the attendance, wasn't it? >> Yeah, but it's look where it was.
>> Yeah. I mean, you know, when you get that far to the east, you don't get a lot of attendance. I think that was about it. This morning, I had a Micah executive committee meeting to um discuss our policies have gotten so
big, as you know, like for next year, they want to limit that down to where they are going to establish committees for like public safety and that to review them before and then bring it to the whole board because it takes forever to get that done otherwise.
Okay. I basically had the same same meetings that everybody else attended. So mine is didn't have very many actually. Go ahead. >> Uh back June 3rd building committee meeting over here at the site. Um next day I had one water one planned for St. Cloud. Uh that's typically held down in
Becker. I was virtual this time. Uh district meeting. Um that evening of course we had our CD10 public hearing Sak Rapids. Next day, chamber appreciation, fully chamber appreciation gathering was at blue ribbon. Um, and
that evening we had planning commission meeting at Watab. Uh, kind of a full house there. >> How'd that go? >> Was long. Uh, long story short is it got tabled uh to the July 9th meeting for a decision. And I think there was a number of items that the planning commission
put together to the applicant to get some things answered so that we could hopefully make a more educated decision on approving or denying that um cup for the campground.
Um next morning I attended Representative Schultz update here at Sable Inn uh for about an hour. So that was good. And I had to leave about 15 minutes early to attend the 7W transportation meeting over at MIDOT. That brings us to today. So that's what we had.
>> Okay. I had a APO meeting. Nothing exciting there. That was pretty easy. Um I did uh I ended up overlooking one of my meetings uh the emergency radio board. So, um, uh, that gets me to
obviously everybody knows that I have filed for Senate. So, my, uh, my time I'm going to apologize right now is, uh, running very thin. So, it's, uh, it's been drinking out of a fire hose
literally on everything. So, I'll apologize upfront and on my timing for the next few months, but, uh, >> it's a race right now. just just let us know what meetings we have to attend if you can't attend. >> Okay.
>> And the more I'm thinking about it, I just put my myself on this JL deal. I I'm just telling you right now, Scott, just do it with with Pam just because I I know that I'm
going to be extremely swamped. So, I'm excited. I'm I'm looking forward to it, but it it's definitely a >> We'll see what happens in August, right? >> Yep. >> Okay. Uh concerns, commissioner concerns or
anything. Okay. Monty, no committee of the whole meeting. >> Yes, we need to add the budget presentations in August. We agreed on the dates, but we didn't actually officially schedule them as cows. So again, that's August 10th beginning at 8 a.m. 8:00 a.m. and that's an all day session. And then August 11th from 8 to
noon, budget presentations by your outside agencies and departments. >> It's a big day. August 11th. >> Uh Mr. While we're here, I want to give you a quick preview of your committee the whole on Monday, June 22nd. Uh that's at 8 a.m. A lot to talk about.
We're going to send you an agenda. We don't have a packet. So if you're looking for a packet, we're not going to get one. But here's the thing. We're going to talk about the security checkpoint. So So Troy will be with us to talk about that. Uh we're going to talk about staffing the information desk. We've invited George to talk about
his VSO concerns. Talk about a passport office. Invited Christine. She's had so far been denied a passport office. And we'll talk about maybe using Lark and Hoffman to help with that. Parking for the government center and the library. Talk about the library and also I'll
look to Commissioner Pop and Commissioner Johnson help us through the discussion about extension share positions. So again, a lot on that agenda. Uh Beth will email out to the agenda, but there won't be a packet. We don't really have any packet materials on this. So again, if we could set those
two budget ones for the call list and we'd appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> For approval, set the cows, Mr. Chair. >> Second. >> Got a motion in a second. Any further discussion? If not, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. >> I. Oppos. Motion carries. Anything else in front of the board? Commissioner Ben.
>> Um just um Biji um I know that at the district meeting you brought up the fact that there's limited hotels attached to whatever. Is that something we need to be looking into for AMC? >> Are you talking about the the >> fall policy fall policy?
>> Uh and that is I'm sorry. Is that fall policy? Yeah. >> So Beth, did you pick up on that to try? Have we booked folks yet for fall policy? I have to >> Okay. >> And I'm not worried about booking for the fall policy quite I mean at this
point that doesn't I'm not worried about that. I'm more worried about hotels >> that we can eventually. >> That's what caught caught you on the hotel stuff. Right. Well, we'll check into it. Right. Yeah. It's open. Right. The block. >> Does everybody plan on going? >> You're gone. >> I'm gone.
>> I have no anyone here. Why did they move it to Bumiji? Arowwood's got a lot of issues. Yeah, >> not >> Oh, it's interesting. My finance officers conference is going to is moving away from Arowwood, too. >> I think a lot of things >> going to Craig. >> They're going to doze it eventually.
Sell it for highend >> probably. >> Okay, understand. >> Maybe would it be appropriate then just let Beth register those of us that are probably going and let's just get in on it. >> We can always cancel it. >> Steve, >> I will not be there. Correct. >> For now,
>> everyone but Commissioner Hein. Yep. >> That's Stanford. That's a >> profile policy. Yeah. >> Stanford. Y >> Yep. Okay. >> Okay. Anything else?