e e e e e call to order the beton county board meeting for June 18th start with the pledge of allegiance alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all okay Beth roll call sure commissioner schan here commissioner Heinen commissioner ginsky here commissioner Johnson here commissioner
pop here thank you okay approv the agenda I know we're going to move um let's see what number was that Monty so uh two things Mr chair uh your consent item number 10 we'd like to move
to a regular item uh right after consent okay uh and then the appointment of the County Attorney uh I'd like to move also to right after consent so let's do if we could please the county attorney appointment first adoc consent and then
uh Sheriff hex item number 10 next perfect thank you sir for approval of the amended agenda Mr chair second okay we got a motion and a second to approve the agenda all in favor I oppos same sign motion carries County board meetings are
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vibrant okay any okay all right consent agenda one through n Mr chair I'll move for approval of those but I would like to uh pull item six please for further discussion I'll second then okay we got
a motion to approve items 1 through five and 7 through n all in favor I I oppose same sign motion carries commissioner Johnson Mr chair if I could uh Chris if we could talk a little bit about item number six uh I know that we had a little bit of a conversation about it I
was mostly interested in the 34 $40 some, I realized was mixed between Federal funding and some local funding but approximately how many miles of striping does this cover yeah good question and I I realized that uh this was not included in your your packet
which would provide additional information so this is a cover sheet from the construction plans on it and we have several different project numbers and that is due to uh we applied for some Federal Highway Safety Improvement program or hsip grants to uh to to help
cover this um but here's the length of Miles like uh we're doing four miles on uh CA 4 we're doing 6 and 12 miles on Gat 12 uh 8.7 8 and 3/4 miles on Highway
5 um County Road 70 is a little over a mile uh in state a Highway 22 is 3.8 miles and you add that all up I think that is just over 25 miles of road that are being striped for 3 $142,000 yeah and so additionally though
this is ground in wet reflective epoxy material so this is a little bit higher grade material that is supposed to have a seven-year life as opposed to latex based paint which maybe has a 2year life in best case sometimes we've seen three
years out of latex so since we got some Federal grant money we we spec out a higher grade material uh which you know was reflected in the prices here so but you're right so that's 25 mes of road now but that includes fog lines on each
side and the center lines um if it so all said and done you could multiply that by four it's about 100 miles of stripe but about 25 miles of of roadway and then just to clarify here you're showing about about $85,000 wor the county money correct yeah hhip money has
a usually about a 9901 uh split but um uh the Grant application um the center lines were not uh all eligible for the the Federal grant so we're paying for some of the center lines but it makes sense to us if we're doing the The Fog
lines or the outside lines we should do the middle line so they're the same age and same reflectivity and all that so there's none of this Rumble strip stuff going on on the edges is there uh not this this is just no there
is yes we do have rumble strips on on on these so um like on the side of the road correct correct yes so but these are not Rumble Stripes so Rumble Stripes is where you actually uh you cut in the rumbles and then you stripe through them so it's right there at the edge line I
believe these are offset outside of the the white line on all of these that we're doing uh I didn't see that when I was looking at it uh yeah I don't think it's on all of them I think it's on the ones where we just have narrow shoulders and it's basically just to warn that
driver that you're you're leaving the the driving lane and there's not much pavement left before you're you're off in the ditch so um uh I don't recall off the top of my head but I bet 12 is is one of those since we had narrow ones on there so they're really hard on
Equipment Tires everybody will tell you the same arm equipment yeah everybody will tell you the same thing that I mean you can you know if you're running an over withth vehicle or over with deal and you got to run that Rumble strip you can blow a tire on four
miles you know with heavy equipment I know we T they talked in Marson County that the BW Township talked to them about it they don't want to see that anymore in their Township that is a I mean it is an identified safety strategy and stuff so
um uh yeah it is kind of a concern though 80% of all fatalities on Rural roads are uh Vehicles leaving leaving the roadway most of those are single vehicle accidents so and the reality is we have a lot of narrow roadways with steam shoulders so um all right thank
you for the clarification Chris with that Mr chair I'll move approval of item six on the consent okay I'll second it okay we got a motion in a second but 13,000 a mile did did did you do the or what is the math from last year I mean last three years how much has this went up cuz I know that uh we've talked about
this in the past that people have been buying each other up and pretty soon so this one we did get two bids on it we got sir lines a lot which was the lowest bidder but then we had this other company Century Fence so I think that made him a little bit um more competitive but it does seem I don't
recall what the percentage increase um it was hard to judge because that was latex versus this epoxy um which is a higher once again higher cost material so as long as it's com out of Maintenance yeah we always say competition's good so we do like to see multiple bids and we were happy to see
at least there was competition as opposed you remember last year we only had the one bid and stuff so all right we got a motion in a second to approve move item number seven six six uh all in favor I oppose same sign motion carries
thanks Chris Monty all right well Mr sharers you've heard Carl smid our County attorney has been appointed to Jud ship in Benton County District Court I believe Carls will be sworn in on July 26 at 3M over in the court facility so now it's the statutory responsibility of
the County Board to appoint a person to fill out the remainder of Call's term uh the board interviewed two individuals who had expressed an interest in this appointment those two folks are currently employees of the county attorney's office after that interview was consensus of the board to appoint
Kathleen rder as the County Attorney to serve out the remainder of Carl's term through January 4th of 2027 if I may Mr Shar just a c few quick highlights of Kathy's resumee she's been with us since November 20 of 2000 first
as an assistant County attorney and now a senior assistant County attorney uh previously uh kathyy uh worked in uh in private practice with cin rder as an assistant City prosecutor uh assistant MX County attorney assistant Champagne County
State's Attorney Kathy has her law degree from the Drake University School of Law she's admitted to the bar in the state of Minnesota and state of Illinois with that Mr chair so you have a resolution in your packet that formalizes this appointment and also
sets a salary uh there was some discussion about that I believe consensus has been reached as to a salary so that is also set forth in your resolution so questions Mr chair County Board Mr chair I'll move to appoint
Kathleen rder as beton County attorney to fulfill the unexpired term of outgoing County attorney Carl Schmidt to set a salary of $132,000 second okay we got a motion in a second any other communication on
this I will say both candidates were very good and we thank both for uh for going through uh the process yep all right anything else if not I'll call the question all in favor I oppose same sign motion carries
congratulations thank [Applause] you all right we are going to Sure y trry number 10 good morning commissioner good
morning good morning um bringing before you the opportunity to apply for some grant funding uh we currently in the sheriff's office operate on the Statewide armor radio system we've been doing that since I think 2008 that's approximately when we purchased the mobile radios that are currently in our
squad cars um we refreshed our portable radios I believe about four years ago and at that time we purchased radios that were encryption capable for our Deputy staff back in 2008 um encryption was a a nice thing that you could use if
you had something sensitive to talk about but nobody really considered it a vital day-to-day component so we saved some money in 2008 and did not Purchase mobile radios when we refreshed our Portables we also looked at our Fleet of mobils and they had been holding up just
fine they tend to last quite a bit longer and we had a plan going into the future that included just buying a few new Portables and we'd swap out when we needed to and slowly turn over that Fleet then one day the BCA sent us a memo on like it was a Wednesday
afternoon just saying by the way you have to change the way you've done radios forever because we said you can't talk about this stuff in the clear anymore so we've been working with the BCA and FBI and the all the state Partners um to come up with well what
does this really mean because the FBI's rule that the BCA has enforcing says if you broadcast criminal justice information that's private about a person which we do quite regularly any data that we get from the FBI the BCA has to be encrypted so we need to come
up with a plan in the next eight years to transition us to the point where we are able to broadcast that information in a way that's not accessible to the public and our option to do that is encryption so we are going to need to turn over these uh 27 mobile
radios to encryption capable and also as we're coming up with this uh with this transition plan figure out with our local public safety Partners what that's going to mean and how we're going to interoperate with them because we definitely don't want to lose the
interoperability that we have with armor we're in the process right now of talking and formulating that plan but it's clear that we're going to need to replace these uh mobile radios in 2024 the legisl I'm sorry in 2023 the
legislature set aside $4 million Statewide for agencies to replace subscriber equipment it's been more than a decade probably closer to 15 years since there was a Statewide grant for subscriber equipment so we expect the demand is going to be pretty
high out there um everybody in in the public safety field recognizes that $4 million is just a drop in this ocean however uh the encouragement from all the radio regions is to apply even if that means that you don't get a grant or
even if that means you get a partial Grant because that is going to then form the basis for us to come back to legislature in 2025 and say look you put aside 4 million we have you know $300 million in need we need to do more
funding so we've prepared uh a Grant application to get what Bon County can from this grant uh as part of that process we're required to come up with a 5% match and we're also required to demonstrate that we have a fund available to that meet that match
um we we obviously need to show that if we were awarded the full $23,000 and change that we would have the financial ability to um support that there I don't anticipate that we're going to get all 27 radios um I would I would hope we
would get a few but nonetheless we need to uh comply with the steps in the Grant application in talking through this with uh Monty we identified the C cap Improvement plan fund as the most
appropriate source for these funds so have before you resolution seeking the board's consent to apply for this Grant and designate the capital Improvement plan fund as the matching Source well as uh as you stated go ahead as you stated earlier the this is a drop
in the bucket and and people actually were kind of laughing about this $4 million at meetings I mean it's not going to cover nothing really it it's probably about 500 radios Statewide yeah yeah if we're lucky yeah and they've got a major issue on their
hands with and no nobody's willing to fund these and you know bton County took the step three four years go to replace the the Portables and most counties aren't doing that they're waiting for the state to step in
so any other thing Mr chair I'm just wondering how the state's going to distribute the grant the grant money you know giving everybody a little or yeah is going to be this much exactly yeah I guess let's apply and find out
right yeah exactly so Mr Mr if we are successful and we get a little bit of money can you sit on it till we decide you know is there are they going to mandate that you spend it and buy the radios right now that's excellent question I I don't
recall on the guidance if there's a timeline to spend the money I would say there likely is most of the grant money that we've got through these uh funding mechanisms has an expiration because then you have to turn it back uh and there's no harm in buying them peace
meal if that's what we need to do uh you know failing the state intervening and providing us with additional grant funding that's probably going to be our path over the next eight years is to slowly replaces until we get to a point where we're ready to
go Mr chair so if we have to peie meal I wonder what the price is of the radios and all that unless we buy them in a lump sump you know if there' be any cost savings or anything because if we have to go through an eight-year period I just
imagine every year it's going to increase yeah I guess I don't know if that we have the money right now to do everything but but it's something to look at though well I wouldn't want to do everything and then cies that do nothing get more money in the end yeah well after we get through
the grant process and see where it go yeah have a conversation about that afterwards Mr chair I'll move approval of the resolution authorizing submission of a Grant application and the designation of the CIP fund as the source of local match I'll second it okay we got a motion in a second any
other communication this if not I'll call the question all in favor I oppose same sign motion carries thank luck thank you all right roxan I think this is a year of nothing but bad news for us it
starts that way good morning Commissioners morning um last year the uh the state legalized the use of cannabis and with that they laid out a plan to allow for cannabis
licensing to begin January 1st 2025 this latest legislative session they be they um offered a proposal for pre-approval of Licensing and so with that it has moved up the timeline in Which counties must um uh lay out
regulations on where these uses would be allowed and to have registration set up so with that in the the bill they also laid out a way for counties or other lgus to establish a moratorium um that must expire by January 1st 2025 um in
order for them to study research and to generate um regulations for their County or their local jurisdiction and so now that that pre-approval is beginning approximately 6 months earlier than anticipated um I believe it is the best
interest of the county to enact um and adopt a moratorium on cannabis businesses and uses until January 1st and so this was presented to the Planning Commission on June uh
10th 10th 11th 13th 13th sorry 13th um and it was discussed at that level the Planning Commission did agree that it would be in the best interest to enact um that that moratorium and to set a public hearing and so uh should the board wish to set a public hearing it
would be uh at the Planning Commission on July 11th and at the County Board on July 16th Mr chair roxan so this moratorium would only be in the county and it wouldn't be on the cities that have their own
licensing ability example city of Sock Rapids or the city of Foley correct okay what are the wishes move to approve okay second okay we got a motion
in a second to approve the moratorium outside the territory this just be clear you're just saying a public hearing today I'm sorry I'm sorry you're setting public for July 16th 9:00 a.m. yes County boardroom to consider an ordinance yeah perfect all right and
this is once again not in the cities of Foley and Sock Rapids correct okay got a motion in a second all in favor I I oppose same sign motion carries okay thank you and I'll have
Brian come up for um an update morning Commission morning well every time I come up here I'm asking you for more but no uh I just wanted to give you a quick update on the assessor office so as you know we've added two appraisers in the last two
years um we've also updated our workload from approximately 3250 Parcels to 13,250 so we've added 10,000 Parcels inh house for that workload um the state likes to have appraisers right around
4500 4,000 to 4,500 per appraiser so at the 13,250 we are pretty much at capacity um as far as the appraisal goes so what I wanted to bring up and just kind of inform you is uh this year at the local
board in Minden the local board uh was uh told by their local assessor that uh he was not continuing going forward so Min and Township is currently looking for a local assessor for this year for
2024 for valuations for 25 assess M that same appraiser local assessor um there's a four-year cycle for your licensing so you have to complete 60 hours of continuing ed your
ethics your pace courses uh that same local assessor um I I did get notification from the state that that local assessor has not completed those continuing at hours that cycle ends on June 30th of this year so on July 1st
Alberta and granite ledge very very likely will not have a local assessor as well so again those Parcels if they cannot find somebody they have 90 days to fill that role if they cannot find
anyone that will fall upon the county assessor to do those Parcels Mr chair Brian a couple questions um so approximately how many Parcels in Alberta and gr l so uh there's 158 Parcels in Minden 15009 Alberta has 624
and granite ledge has 657 so around 2,800 parcels and so kind of a stupid question in Minden do we also do the areas that are like in orderly annexation or is it are we doing the whole town is that person doing the whole Township correct yeah we do every parcel that's located in there and
personal property mobile correct all right yeah so you know that brings into about 2,800 Parcels that could be asked of our office to complete yet this year um for the TW for January 2nd of
2025 um and again we did pick up gilmington Township and the City of Sartell which you've already approved that's another 1 1300 Parcels which we absorbed into the existing staff that we had Mr chair so Brian so it's mandatory
if they can find when it falls back on the county then correct is that what I heard from you correct okay at this point in time how much money do we receive per parcel right now our new contracts in the townships have been townships in City 11 to 12 per parcel is
what is what we're currently at I tiered up the ones that like gilmington $11 for the first year $12 for the next two $13 for the two years after so I did a five-year agreement not necessarily a contract an agreement with them but that's you that's where we're at as far
as um and that's pretty typical of what the locals are charging as well the ones that have it the very good locals are are overextending themselves and very booked and and there's just not a lot around anymore that are taken on work
so does does that uh cover our costs it does not um you know what we percentage of it so so I mean I kind of did a projection you know back in 2022 you know we charged the townships and the cities a flat parcel rate and
then we paid out the locals that we hired ourselves so in 2022 we had retained $35,988 that one you know 2023 that went up to 51,4 110 this year the projection is 81,0
438 um and that's because our we're paying Steve Baron branker in those for the second half of 24 we PID in you know this year so next year uh if nothing were to change our office would retain about 130,000
27,44 cuz for the 25 assessment we're not paying out anything so we're retaining all that money so it's just one of those things that if we picked up if we did pick up Minden Alberta Granite ledge for this year it' be close to 100,000 that we would retain
so we'd only retain about another 20,000 next year we would retain 160,000 so it' be up about 40 35 40,000 and again the only other option is you know at some point if we ever talk you
know true County and go down that road um then we would be you know charging those jurisdictions and we you know one more appraiser in our office I do believe that we would have the capacity to then do the entire County if need be Mr chair uh how far are we from Chu
County if we picked up Alberta well if we picked up those three we would have three townships there would be langola Mayo Lake and the City of rice would be left that that do not contract with or have an agreement with the county Mr chair so
Brian is this the reason of assessors retiring then too well I I think part of it is the retiring the local assessors there's just not a lot of them out there uh you know Steve Baron Brinker retired so that's why we brought on all of those parcels and again really wasn't to talk
to anything other than just letting you know that this might be coming up and and if Minden finds a local assessor to take over that District then we we'll just move forward the way that we are right now okay but it's very possible that we may have some parcels coming our
way so um if we wanted to go true County do these um townships and cities have a choice or do then they have to go with us well so they don't have a choice per se I mean if you pass how that would work and I guess I wasn't really too prepared for this but how that would
work is if you passed a resolution today that said we're going to a county that that that takes a takes an effect on January 2nd of 2026 for the 26 assessment so what we're doing right now is as of normal and then the next year we would take over the entire County
that doesn't say that the county assessor's office can't do it and we could still hire if there's one or two jurisdictions that wants to keep their local if that was something that was agreeable we would have to then hire that local and keep them going and pay them however we would normally do that
well if you look at the retirements and in you know the accessibility of assessors maybe we should start having that conversation earlier than later and I know roxan and I and na do have a meeting set up next week we were just going to just discuss more about you know just a forwarding plan one other
thing I you know I always want to bring up is it's also other costs that are associated we're currently doing a conversion so you have a local assessor that works maybe one jurisdiction that we have to try to train in on a brand
new system yeah we have to provide them a computer a laptop technology the fees going for the Apex sketch the Tyler you know all of those are licensing fees that we're providing that local whereas if we had that staff member in house
we're not providing of those additional licenses as well so there's other you know technology type costs associated as well Mr chair any idea how many counties are true County I I don't I don't I know that I know that five in our region went
true County last last year oh wow um and and again I could certainly put something together I know our property tax compliance officer you know went and and met with one of you know several of them and she can certainly talk to any you know the true County things as well how that works it do all it does is it
says that the county assessor's office is responsible for the assessment the local jurisdictions can still hold their local board meetings as normal um so nothing changes there it's just that we you know we're in charge of the assessment and in my opinion it I think it would be a lot more equalized and a
lot more I have a lot more control over what is going on with my appraisers than I do with a local assessor sure and and I'm sure you'll have in your discussion potentially if we need extra staff how they may potentially fit into a yeah and spacewise I mean and we would have to figure that out you know and again at at
first you can still charge if we go true County you can still charge those jurisdictions per parcel like we're doing now so I mean at our current at our current uh uh pricing if we were true County by 26 we would be retaining around 200,000 of Revenue and
so if we have four appraisers on staff I mean at 100 50% of I mean that's retaining half their salary yeah so I mean it it is uh something now if we have a a a local that we hire because a couple jurisdictions want them that would come out of that obviously um I
think with you know right now um Mayo Lake and langola and and Minden as well I mean if they can find somebody great if not you know we just have to be prepared for what could be coming down the road from my standpoint I this is clearly not a money maker right and but the problem is is we run the risk of
taking on these jurisdictions anyway and then be not not staffed or not don't have the funds to to bring on somebody during those times so we're kind of in a catch 22 I think we got to start looking like you said quicker on on going County
at least explain the options to you know that you know you're you're two left or you're three left and all the others are under the counties and maybe it's time we do this or we might be doing this yep and and also let them know that they could still keep their assessor if they want might be a good item to talk to
them about at our meeting with them oh that's probably yeah I think if we do this in my opinion we we try and take it away from just just for the fact it just becomes a lot more cumbersome if they're if it's under the County but yet still
having their own jurisdiction and stuff I don't know we need to have this commun we need to have this talk sooner rather than later yeah I agree okay yeah and and just for clarification if we went if it did if we did go true County and we would have full control of who was hired
in those areas the local board would not it would be more of an agreement that you can keep your local but they they'd be hired through our office instead of okay just FYI thank you Brian okay thank you I appreciate it all right
Chris all right good morning Commissioners morning I thought I would come talk to you today about something other than Road ditches or roads and bridges um and talk to you about our underground fuel storage tanks that we have at the highway department so back
in May May was the end of April or the first week in May uh our tank monitoring system was given us an alarm in in the building so our maintenance superintend end called uh Minnesota petroleum a contractor that we use they do our annual tank inspections and had them
send out a technician to figure out what was going on and what we learned is that there is a well I learned that there's a sensor in the space between the Dual walls of the Dual wall tank and that sensor was detecting liquid sensor
doesn't know if it's water if it's fuel or whatever it was sending an alarm so the technician came out pulled that sensor out of that space and observed that it smelled like unleaded fuel and it was our unlet tank um he also did
some further testing um uh he did a vacuum testing tried to put a vacuum on that space and couldn't hold a vacuum further indicating that there is a breach in that space um but the fact that it had fuel in it and not water
indicates that it was the inner wall of the tank and not the outer wall but it's safe to say that we have a break in that dual wall uh tank system and that needs to to be repaired um we don't have a release to the environment uh as far as
mpca is concerned so the the safety factor of the Dual wall steel tank is doing its job it contained all that fuel within within the outer wall but since that safety system has been compromised we can't let it go uh for too long we'll
need to have that repaired so we had Minnesota petroleum give us a quote to to do that work um and outline a repair procedure basically to repair it they'd have to cut a hole in the the top of the tank through the concrete cut out some
concrete and evacuate it we've got to draw the fuel down to to at least about 500 gallons and then they will pump out the rest and evacuate that and a person's got to go down there and perform repairs on that tank find where it's it's compromised where it's cracked
or whatever and repair it um so that's about $32,000 to repair uh one of the tanks there and once again we only know of the unleaded we don't we have the same system what I have on the screen here is a diagram that I think pretty well demonstrates what we got going on
we've got dual wall tank and sensors in there diesel is not indicating any sensors picking up any liquid so we just know of the unlet right now um so yeah like I said about $32,000 to to repair this we did some digging in
our file and we found some warranty information um the county back in 2006 when the highway shop was being built purchased the tanks directly instead of using the contractor so we become responsible for any warranty information but what we could tell the the county
did its part in fulfilling all the warranty information the contractor signed off on a checklist verifying that the tanks were installed per the manufacturer recommendations um we purchased it from Fargo tank Fargo steel and tank back in
2006 who is now uh True North steel so we reached out to them and that got passed along to somebody um steel tank Institute or something uh we don't have confirmation that all this work is covered by warranty yet but the good news is we have our contractor
communicating with the warranty people to schedule an inspection the warranty people say that they need to send out their person to inspect it as well to verify that um uh this work could be covered under warranty information so
the warranty listed things like it was a 30-year uh life uh 30-year warranty so here we are about 18 years later you would think that that it's covered to what extent that's still up for debate and I I'm remaining hopeful that at
least portion of those costs will be covered by warranty but we we are going to have to move forward with with doing these repairs um but there will come a time where the unleaded will be uh unusable and inoperable to other County departments at some point we don't know when that'll
be yet but Mr chair I I'm assuming there was nothing real transparent about that's non-transferable or anything like that on the warranty information um there is some the only thing I found looking through it now sometimes warranties are written by lawyers for
law LA but um sometimes the the there's some language in there about the the cost to replace or repair can't exceed the original cost of the the tanks okay so we bought two tanks
back in 2006 for $32,000 so I I don't know that's a good way if you have a 30-y li 30-year warranty How Could You project how much the repairs are going to cost 30 years later from when you install them so but you're right we bought two 10,000 gallon
steel tanks back in 2006 delivered to our site for $32,000 we're hook for something yeah I think we will be for something well they're going to PR rate that correct I mean more like um I guess my concern is
that once you leak there'll be it's an ongoing situation you can pressure tank them use nitrogen whatever you want to do that double wall they will leak again I mean it happens in milk tanks it happens in everything at some point we
probably need to look at I mean now now just I my personal feeling is get them out of the ground and get them above ground in a contained storage or contained area because that's the way you go you can buy the same things and then you don't have all this digging and
all the other stuff that goes with it so if the cost if the cost and the age of the tank get too much it's like we we better look forward for something else yeah it's going to cost 16 Grand to replace it or to fix it we replace it do
we replace it I mean Mr chair that was my thoughts to commissioner pop is that what what happens if they go in there and they find more areas that have to beix we fixed it today in two years we got another one then we're in correct and at
the age of the tanks 18 years yeah I don't know but if if you had to replace them I would definitely look look at above ground you know you got the pumps you got everything else so it can't be I mean I was going to take a picture
yesterday of one of the Farms between uh Royalton and Bolas that they've got above ground beautiful setup you know they got the room all that and it just looks like that makes more sense plus I would probably go i' buy bigger tanks so
you can maybe get you know at least get the 15,000 so you can get two semi loads in there m better pricing yeah for better pricing February yeah Mr chair that that was my thought too is whatever what are our options yeah underr or I'm
a little skeptical on fixing it because he you know well I I think we we've got to try to fix it but if it comes to a point where that expense is too high or if they do the check you know they do because they're
going to do some kind of a pressurized check I'm assuming fix I guess well yeah so they've already tested it and are confident that we've got a leak so they're they're gearing up for repair the next thing would be to schedule this inspector to have them go look at it as well um and verify yeah that it's a tank
failure or whatever and um worst case they they come back and they say oh it's not covered by warranty and we try to argue that um and put the the repair on hold so they should be able to tell if the tank is in good shape bad shape you know I mean hopefully yeah
yeah what do you know other Counties have if they have the above ground tanks I I don't know for certain yeah I would have to pull the the county engineers and see what they you know if you go the other route you don't have the the EPA and all the other stuff
because you're not ground contaminated everything's contained yeah it cost a little money to build the storage around it I think from what we're hearing up here is maybe let's start getting our options together yeah so maybe something go out and get some prices for an above
ground system I mean it's going to be substantial because you know what tanks cost yeah but you don't have I'm sure you don't have to have the double wall maybe not yeah uh M I'm concerned that we we should not delay in my opinion the
repair no I think given the volume that that his attention coming out we should proceed with a repair I mean hopefully we can get some more in coverage but I don't think we should delay repair uh and you know continue that conversation should we should get it
repaired if it if it's the the unlet or is ited or unlet yeah it's the unlet tank the UNL one I mean we can we could contract if if it's non fixable we could contract with one of the locals to give us fuel well that's what they're going to have to well you're going to be spreading around the locals while
they're doing this anyway sure yeah well that's happened in the past you may recall when there was a major repair what you had like Sheriff squads went to Brenny's yeah to get fuel so it'd be like you know fleet vehicles Sheriff squads yeah but I think I think to commissioner kinsky point is let's get
rolling on some other options I mean if we get it we get it uh sucked down and it's going to be X number of dollars to repaired I think we better have that discussion versus replacing it I I understand but imagine how long it might take though to arrange for the purchase
design and installation of new above ground tanks all the while this is leaking that's my worry but if we pump it down we won't be leaking excuse me if we pump it down below the leak point we won't be leaking I think what commissioner Johnson's saying is we Pump It Down find out if it's not fixable or
if it is it's going to be 32 Grand or whatever it might be he's saying contract out don't let it keep leaking contract out and let's come up with a fix so that's our interim solution it's just we don't put fuel back in it we keep it empty maybe maybe inter
solution I think we do have the date's unknown part of it's due to consumption how fast are we consuming the fuel they UNL it in that tank to get it down to that 500 gallon Mark and that was when we're supposed to notify them that we're at that point and and there
they $32,000 includ included the cost to pump it out into a temporary tank and hold up to 5,000 or 500 gallons um and do that so I think we're we're we got the ball rolling at least get that going which requires I think I don't know if
there's a way around getting a person down there they have to do this evacuation procedure and get somebody down there inspected to look at the tank so Chris how big of a tank is that it's a 10,000 gallon tank and then how much a gallon are you guys paying right
now oh gosh good question ah I don't know no I think we're below three I think we're 260 to 270 range maybe hypothetically if this turns the water getting in there instead of the gas we could ruin 10,000 gallons of gas too but
we've got an inside leak not an outside correct correct y but what all I mean you already you already have one barrier broke right M so that I guess where I'm going now I guess how much gas is in there do you know yeah thank you um a
last time I asked uh more kabet which was probably over a week ago I think we were still over 2,000 gallons in that oh oh go through that pretty fast we should be getting there pretty close yeah but I mean the purpose of bringing this up is you know it does affect other departments namely the sheriff's department and and fully PD and do we
know at what do they know where the leak is it at the 8K or not exactly when the tech I was able to talk to the technician when they were on site and um quite fascinating actually if you want to get into it but when he was pulling his vacuum there's also he was able to
put a microphone in there and here for bubbles he said if I'm hearing bubbles then I know the leak is below the fuel level at that day or if I'm hearing just air then that leak was uh but so I think at that day it was above the fuel level there but at that time you know we
weren't full and we weren't empty um I'm not sure if we know exactly where that lead was but well bring us back uh uh options and hopefully you know I'm going to say if the warranty covers it we get it fixed
in my my opinion and then wait for it to break again and but in the meantime we start getting getting costs be ready to go but if if if the warrant is going to come back at 32,000 it comes back at 10,000 I'd rather put the 22,000 into a
new facility if they're going to prate if they're going to PR rate oh yeah we need to see numbers in to make decisions so it sounds like that's another thing we do is reach out to our contractor and at least if they can give us a ballpark figure of what
you know above ground system would cost I wouldn't want to go in that tank to do it it sounds like though it's like we don't want to fill this tank back up so when it it it its Supply is exhausted we we're going to need to go with alternative fuel sources like bren's
again yes uh for some period of time and it could be certainly extended if we're you know if we're going to go with a a new tank installation could be could be it could be several months Mr chair Monty do we distribute the uh buying gas
between uh two facilities around the county or I mean around fley anyway yeah it's got be Chris what was the arrange at last time when we had to do the repairs and it was down for like how was it down for how long yeah it was down for two or three months went back three years ago where did folks get gas it was
M br's it was Brenny's yeah down here on Norman and um did we put that out for bids or something then at that point in time instead of just going to one Gas Station instead of splitting it up no and I think we did that because we had used them before um in the past uh um
back when the highway shop was even right here there was times that they would use Bry oil I think they were pretty Cooperative in terms of billing us yeah they they handed all the building billing each department whereas now we we have to distribute how many gallons went to each department and do
that um I don't know if the other others were interested but um it'd be probably the only locally owned yeah corre good good point you know I mean I'm not they're all paying taxes so I mean but they probably live in fully they do
right it doesn't hurt to go out and ask them just trying to be just trying to be transparent that's all it would it would nice it would be nice to have something in in soccer and rice but but it's more conven got make sounds too yeah it's more
convenient here being every deputies have to drive out here now fill to fuel up so yeah you know yeah no that may simplify things and hopefully it's short term yeah I think there's just there's a lot of speculation we're all doing here until yeah y you know commissioner Pop I
I if all of a sudden he above above ground tanks come in at 200 Grand and and it's 10 grand to fix this one I think we might all kind of like let's pay the 10 grand and kick that can if we will it'll be it won't be 10 grand to fix well if we get some insurance money
we might be yeah oh by the way we we did check with matcat to see if there's any coverage and underground tanks are excluded are excluded from coverage yeah yeah what about above ground I don't know I have to ask the
question I know the fuel the the above ground fuel station is scheduled and covered but below ground is not so I'd have to ask about above ground tanks right a good question to ask i' have to ask all right well yeah so just
informational now but uh yeah anate further discussions in the future one way or the other yeah he's here all the time begy well that's all I had for today unless there was any questions nope all right thanks Chris thank you Chris thank
you um what are the wishes of the board do we want to keep going or move into um uh take a break that's what I was thinking step away from the county board meeting go to the
Eda do I got a motion so move second okay we got a motion to uh pause the County board meeting and go into Eda all in favor I iOS same sign motion carries Amanda good morning morning morning
morning we already did roll call we're all here so okay good well thanks for having me this morning I just wanted to um provide you with some updated changes to our microloan request from northern Hollow
Winery um if you recall we approved this microloan back in August and um since August there's been some changes to the entity and um also to uh the guarantor
of the loan so um after talking with our Eda attorney it just we felt it necessary to bring it back to the board just so that you can review the changes and and um and approve the changes the updated changes so um you recall
Northern Hollow Winery was formed in 2013 they were located in graston they have um since purchased a uh property here in um gilmington Township in the orderly annexation area uh located at
6120 105th Avenue Northeast in Foley just outside of the city limits of Foley uh the site consists of 23 Acres um they are looking to construct the a winery
and Event Center so this is a little bit different um than our last discussion in August where you approved the loan for the smaller project which just included the winery um they um re-evaluated their
performa they re-evaluated um their needs assessment for the area and they felt that uh in order to make this project work they really did need to add the Event Center onto the facility as well so it is going
to be the larger facility so the winery and the Event Center um and they are you probably already seen that they're you know planting some grapes out on site too in that um location uh in August the Eda approved
the microloan request um of 70,00 000 um advertised over 25 years with a 5year balloon uh interest rate of 75% it's a it's proposed it was proposed at that time that the county was going
to take third uh third position on the collateral for real estate and Equipment um nothing has changed in regards to the amount of the loan um the interest rate the term the collateral
position it really is um that they're adding an entity as an operating company um so Northern Hollow Winer is going to be excuse me is the real estate holding company and Northern
Hollow Winery Enterprise Corp is the operating company and they're going to be coal borrowers uh same person owns both entities it's just that that's the structure that they settled on that made the most sense for them um and then uh the owner's wife
Deanna is no longer going to be an owner or a borrower so we've taken her off as the gar Tour on the loan um so it is essentially uh Northern Hollow Winery uh who is the holding company and the garor
on the loan um as well as um Jim truart which is um very similar to what um Jim was as the garor on um the loan docs in August as well so it's really
just taking Deana off um so because of those CH two changes the entity change and the co-borrower change um Eda attorney just said that we should bring it back um because it's more of an more than an
administrative change to the loan docks so I updated the loan docks that are included in in your packets um with the new entity changes and um the guarantor changes and so I'm just bringing it back to you for um approval I did I do want
to mention that our finance committee did um review the changes uh they didn't have any concerns they met um just this past Monday and they didn't have any changes um or any
concerns with the updated information Amanda MH what what is the purpose of taking off the uh the wife um there was some uh it was SBA
requirements and there was um SBA has certain requirements and um background information on that uh in that wife was um it
didn't didn't vot well it didn't go well with the SBA so we just um took her off and then it okay yeah that was that was going to be my concern with with taking a guarantor off and being in line of a
position that was what was my scare um uh so the other thing about the loan docs is um the wife has to consent to the gar tour anyways so even though she's not signing she has to consent to
Jim signing the garor because they're husband and wife so she's they got joint collateral they they do yes because they're husband and wife Mr chair no no you go ahead okay so being you added the Advent Center I see the is it still the
four new jobs will be created within the two-year anniversary or has that changed that has not changed that is still the stay the same still the same everything has has stayed the same Mr chair Amanda has I'm assuming they've had preliminary discussions with the city of Foley then in regards to the event yes they have y
okay so that's been in Fr of them already and obviously Bankers have seen and signed off on on this correct okay Mr chair one question I had and I was unable to attend the loan committee because I was busy um did they discuss the interest rate that's higher than
what we've been doing there but there was no discussion there was no discussion on the interest rate everything stayed the same basically because of that we're in third position yeah and um the loan is I mean it's the risk level that the committee
felt that it was necessary to keep the interest rate the same yep and then the other thing I just wanted to mention um the other change that you won't see necessarily but um the initiative Foundation has come in at 500,000
instead of I think it was just under a 100 last time so they've um stepped up and and contribute a little bit more to the project overall but that doesn't necessar really affect our loan request I want to minimize the 70,000 but it's
not 700 Grand right y exactly true is the initiative Foundation are they all in I mean all their work is done they're ready to go yep the initiative Foundation is um done um of course you know we require that we have life insurance policies and all you know we
we try to um collateralize everything as much as possible and we have full collateral coverage on all of our loans so I mean third position is always yeah a little bit riskier but that's the nature of the program yeah y that's what we do
just for the record what what's the timeline on opening well they wanted to close last week so um they are trying to get in the ground yet this year and trying to be open um and I'm not sure if it's going
to be it probably be spring at this point spring of 2025 okay Mr chair with that and all the information that was presented I will approve the loan docks for what is it Northern H Northern Hollow Winery second okay we got a
motion in a second any other questions regarding this not I'll call the question all in favor I oppose same sign motion carries thank you Amanda anything else on your end any updates anything oh
I have so many but um I I wasn't prepared so I'm just um we have we potentially have one more micr loan um in front of the board but it's um it's a little bit out there yet so we're still working we got a lot of inquiries for
the microloan program um I think six so far this year and um which is really good I think the word is getting out um that this program is available and then you know just being able to talk to to our lenders in the area knowing that we
have this program is really helpful um the initiative Foundation is fantastic um to work with because they we can Capital stack all of our programs and they um I this is a great example they came in really strong on this project um
and they have on and many of our other ones so it's really nice to have that partnership with the initiative Foundation um but uh we continue to get inquiries for program which is really great so Mr chair Amanda rough balance
on the M on the loan I just looked at it it's just under a million um in in cash we have four loans out they're all current um we had one payoff um earlier this year that's why we have so much in
cash balance but um most of our loans are under aund and um roughly 140,000 are under so thank you all right thanks Amanda yeah thank you all right Mr chair could you take
care of agenda number three okay minutes the what oh I'm sorry I'm sorry yep we'll approve go ahead sorry I'll move to go ahead commission so move to approve the minutes I'll second it okay we got a motion a second to approve
the amend the minutes of April 16th all in favor I I oppose same sign motion carries we got a motion to adjourn so moov second okay you got a motion in a second to adjourn we are adjourned on Eda at
959 uh is Jacqueline uh joining remotely I see Jacqueline online yeah there she is let's just do it y you can take care Comm vote yep I'm going to turn it over to commissioner heinan okay we'll now uh we'll now run the Community Health
Board roll call already approve or amend the agenda anything to add to the agenda Jacqueline no nothing to add thank you move for approval Mr chair I'll second got a motion a second any further discussion if not I'll call the question
all in favor say I I oppose motion carries consent agenda 1 and two what would we like to do with that move for approval second got a motion and a second any further discussion if not I'll call the question I'll favor say I I I oppos motion carries Jacqueline
anything to add no light agenda today wow okay well great thank you enjoy your day yeah at this point we'll uh adjourn at 10 o'clock thank you Jacqueline thank you turn it back over to the board chair I think what we'll do is we'll finish up
the County Board and we'll go in the ditch okay okay uh commissioner meeting updates who would like to start I can go obviously we all of us were down at the District 5 meeting in Chisago County that was well attended um um of course
we're all at our cow for the county attorney candidates I did have the opportunity to visit with Amanda uh Brandon Voit and Sarah Brun on a uh bre visit with Benton County Abstract here in downtown Foley that was pretty interesting they've completely redone the offices in there it's it's very nice
in there um the next day of course we had our cow with Brent and Kristen and arpa for s cloud and the Cannabis discussion and then I had a ditch subcommittee meeting with um Chris um on the 13th also Planning Commission
that evening um and as you heard from Roan Planning Commission voted unanimous to hold a public hearing on the Cannabis moratorium all I had okay well I did a b u b Andre visit with um BM the up in rton
the emergency vehicle deal wow that was impressive I had the opportunity I used to go over there once in a while DTM yeah when it was the Pizza Joint mhm wow they did a lot of remodeling and that looks pretty good and I didn't never
realize there's that much demand he said that on an average week he turns down three weeks worth of work because they you know they don't and they got people that are that they send out Nationwide to do troubleshooting too
I mean it's like holy cow he would I think Amanda's going to meet with him about trying to get through the Vex School some training or something because he just can't find workers I mean he said he knows within a week he said if they come on Monday and they're back the following Monday we're in
pretty good shape yeah but I mean it takes you know almost if they start on a car and one person works on it every day it takes them better than a week to get that all equipped and now they're fabricating some of their own stuff like
where all the electronics go behind the the third seat I mean that's pretty amazing I mean and they moved in there I mean that was pretty nice I thought they moved in and that place that left they left all the office furniture all the computers everything they just left well
nothing everything so um yeah I mean looks like you know they are well on their way to building on or adding more room and that and then of course I had Micah on Wednesday and Jared was on um just more of a session wrap up what
didn't happen yeah and no money for this and no money for that Transportation so and then I I left a sheet on you about the um the county program Aid so but that's just proposed yeah yeah but they
been Monty like Monty just said Mike has been pretty accurate so could be worse right we'll get the final deal department number yeah could be worse could be better I mean
that's why I looked at it I I'll tell you that I was sitting on that meeting and I'm like I just heard it a District 5 we just heard it at the County Board I'm like oh yeah have a repeat of the legislation cap and we did have a uh executive committee meeting and we're still working with the account you know
anoga county to become a member um and if they become a member now they'll become at 50% for this year and then they'll be a full member next year and that'll help offset some of our increase in budget mhm for next year we won't
have to budget a whole lot more because of that and of course you know the executive director got to have a raise because they're in hot demand and then we have to replace Steve Novak and I them contracts are high I was surprised that how much these people get for
running that contract whoa you know and we got three and then we're going to continue to go out for environment and natural resource and probably Public Safety um Public Safety we're going to look again with a m c to sub with them
because they do a lot of the same work and environment and natural resource we contracted out for a entity that does just environment and natural resources so I think they're they're good you know our executive director is
good and that was all that I had okay commissioner schan um the Mind Township meeting and they were talking about the assessor for Solutions and the
call okay commissioner he okay I'll be quick uh had I had a performance review for Tammy bear career solutions that went very well we're going in a good direction
uh went to the East Central Regional juvenile Center for that meeting just it was just a normal updated meeting uh and then we took a tour at the facility it was very interesting uh region five County attorney theau I had
a sha meeting career Solutions meeting and then yesterday I met with Amy Meyer uh social senior social worker and went out on a visit and that was rather interesting again very very interesting
you guys have to do some of this stuff it's pretty crazy uh and just to throw something out there tomorrow I'll be doing a radio interview about homelessness so it'll be interesting and I'll be taking uh Victoria blown again
with our Outreach individual so good okay all right I had the same as everybody else the the Micah meeting with with commissioner pop District 5 uh the cows I missed a radio board meeting
because of one of the cows uh APO um we tabled a couple things that night we usually don't table and and it was all of our upcoming dues how we're going to replenish yeah the uh the money that we took out of uh reserves for the bridge
study so it was uh there's a lot of dialogue going back and forth on that one it was uh got a little contentious again so I I just sit back and go if we can't afford these projects all all together how is one person going to do
it yeah I mean this is everybody's broke I get that but it is what it is so a't you forgetting the most important part though huh ain't you forgetting the most important part you'll be the next chair oh yeah yeah well
well if I'm if I'm if I'm elected I I'll be the next chair I think but we did talk about going out to um um DC again and bton County was literally an every slide on money being given which was a
good thing it's been a long time and that was called out actually and that was C it's like been a long time since we've seen that and then we went through the that that I would be the next board chair too and they're like well Bon County's never been the board chair they
don't rotate counties they do but it's never fallen in line yeah so we've only been Vice chair once in so there I I think the I think the the uh APO started looking at it and
going holy cow we got a lot of stuff going which is good for our County yeah so all right that's all I have um Comm of the ho we have no new ones to add what but
we'll come up with some if you'd like uh Monty that would be a negative but uh I do have one change though so Lori from extension would like to visit with you on July 2nd to discuss all the changes that are going on with extension we already have a committee of the whole to
to talk to Tessa from DDA so we want to just add Lori to your agenda for July 2nd so if you could make a motion just to make that change we're good perfect okay we got okay got a motion a second comment uh last week we had two two-hour
calls let's move those together next time I know it it it's a little bit I'd rather be here for four hours I don't know what you guys think sure but two hours depends on the subject for me yeah I totally agree coming in well of course
I only came District I was busy but yeah yeah we had we do our best to make combin topics and they have fewer than yes sir yep okay okay we got a motion in a second to add um uh Lori to
the July 2 C motion to approve or we got uh I'll call the question all in favor I post same sign motion carries calls are set anything else if not um Transportation Alliance is having their
um workshop on the federal funding on July 24th plan on going to that if that's okay okay that St Paul commissioner schung uh it's going to be in Minas this
time I know commission SL is our representative so you probably would need to set that as a c separately we we're fine there yeah enjoy y we got we got a couple more board meetings before then all right interesting can I get a motion to adjourn so move okay we're
adjourned at 1011 and I'm going to turn it over to commissioner Johnson on the ditch Authority all right we'll call our ditch Authority meeting to order we've already had the roll call uh any additional items to add of the agenda Chris I do not have any so move okay second motion second to approve our
agenda is presented all those in favor oppos carried on our consent agenda approve or amend the meeting minutes from June 4th so move second motion second to approve those meeting minutes any further discussion hearing none all those in favor I I POS that's carried
update on County ditch 14 Wetlands yeah so I just wanted to report back that uh myself uh Joe Lewis from Houston engineering we were able to meet with uh Kate Stephenson and Sierra CER last yeah it was last Wednesday to talk about uh
doing some more work near those Wetlands on 90th Street so we Revisited what we had originally done um we talked about the difference between kind of flow through wetlands and depressional Wetlands um and I think we got to some agreement that there there is a depth
that we could excavate and not impact the wetlands but to prove that that work falls on to us we got to still come up with a plan and give that back to them to to review and say yeah we can we we agree you doing this amount of work will
not impact the wetlands therefore no mitigation plan will be required and Chris just for clarification I know you're specifically speaking about the area around 90th right now yes but the areas north of that because there's two quote unquote plugs up there correct are depressional wetlands those are
depressional wetlands and according to Bowser the Board of Water and Soil resources depressional Wetlands they're they're they don't work the same there's nothing more to put it we would impact them if we do any more Excavating near
those depressional Wetlands we will impact them and are they approxim o imately the same length as the issue on 90th well yeah we had uh two 200 foot sections that we did not uh clean out the ditch bottom and Bowser is saying those are depressional yes so once again
though I'm asking Houston to kind of look at those though and what if we do um a partial what if we did half the depth what is that impact and provide us with some costs um so there and so we we what we did is we got to a meth
methodology we agreed on a methodology there's two different equations that are kind of commonly used um more of it for like drain tile and agricultural drainage to determine this lateral effect if you lower the water elevation
in the ditch how far laterally do you go and you impact that so we we got some agreement on some parameters that we could we could lower that water elevation at the Wetland um and so you're kind of in a way we're back calculating back to the ditch how far
can we excavate there to to to hold to that that minimum um water elevation change so to speak it sounds kind of complicated in a way it kind of is uh I had a we had a follow-up conversation
Houston engineering and I it's going to take some more engineering work we're we think under $5,000 more of engineering work to come up with those and and provide uh some options and one of those options may be if we did the full depth
full ditch bottom width what does that impact and therefore Wetland mitigation costs according to Kade and Bowser in the last six months he said a wetland Bank credits are starting to come down in price I mean we've seen a quite a range
in our bank service area to some of the other ones but we're in the large we're in the most expensive one are we yeah we were at that at the end of 2022 um that was the most recent data yeah we were $100,000 per credit in bank service area 7 um and yeah that did once
again the justification or the explanation was because we also incorporate our bank service area incorporates the Northwest Metro which is seeing a lot of growth and development so they are depleting those Wetland Banks faster than other areas of the state so also we had some discussion
about what some of the new legislation maybe is bringing forth complicate things um if you want me to I'll go and jump into that I was going to talk about that as part of the county ditch 10 so a repair so we have this draft repair report uh and I'm still reviewing it it
just I attached some maps in there um there's some summary of you know the repair listed um I don't know what that means I just want to get to this part of even a repair report is to look at the wetlands
under old statute 103g um which is the Wetland Conservation Act statute that says that um for County Ditch Projects that are covered under 103e in statute uh a mitigation plan is required for type three four five and
six Wetlands uh so we've always interpreted that means well if it's a type one or two Wetland you don't need a mitigation plan therefore you don't need a mitigate for those impacts what we understand now is some statute changes that happened in
the last legisl legislative session come into effect August 1st that remove those exemptions for even type one to Wetlands so we're all still just trying to understand what that means but to put that into perspective uh the yellow on
this map of County ditch 10 are the type one two uh 78 Wetlands or I guess that does include type six type 345 so under the Old Law only the ones in red would be the ones we'd have to consider minimizing impacts or replace it now
just on the surface initial review of the new statute anything in yellow and red if we impact those Wetlands we'll have to mitigate in the case of County ditch 10 that's the whole length of that ditch now we we're going to run into is the cost of that repair is going to be
far exceed the benit correct Yeah well yeah so it they basically tied our hands it feels like it may stop a lot of repair projects if you have to start mitigating for type one two w lands what's interesting also you know dealing with Wetlands whether it's a road construction project or this um there
are Wetland Banks out there but they've only been the idea of you buying credits is you buy a credit of the type of wetland that you're impacting well if before we didn't have to buy credits for type one two wetlands are there even Banks out there that have type one two
credits available to purchase so you in the context of ditch 14 we're we're working down that path of you know 345 we've done the repair I don't think that'll affect that but I think if
future Ditch Projects it's going going going to impact us uh or affect us Chris maybe I could back up on the cd14 I know Julie's here any comments we're they're not going to really any action today this is informational but I don't know if you want to share anything while you're here
well from what what I've observed and and I know we've had a lot of rain y the water in the ditch does not app to be flowing um what appears to be happening is it's coming up the ditch alongside the road and going into I have a low area with the tree in it and the
peasants like it and whatever and it flows into there and what it's trying to do is cut across my front field and form its own ditch wow so I'm not very happy MH um I just want to know when when we can
get something done here cuz this is not okay well now as you've heard and it's not the answer everybody wants at this point but there is meetings being happening and trying to come up with an option here and what we can do or can't do um and we're going to continue with
that know this is a part of the reason why I'm want to make sure that you commented on this because it's in the record and you know we wanted to make sure that we've heard it um as we keep moving forward I I'm glad to hear there's some meetings scheduled and do you have a do you have a timeline when you think you'll hear
back from Houston uh not an exact timeline we met just uh yesterday afternoon and discussed this um I'm hoping before the next board meeting for sure uh I have some even just some rough even if they're not very detailed some
approximate costs um that I can that I can present and about how far through the contract of the repair of cd14 are we are we 80% through that are we that's probably about right so last fall when they were Excavating this they finished it up the time things were starting to
freeze over so uh they didn't do any seating work and so that hasn't been expended or paid out and it was always understood that they would need to come back uh and redress the spoil piles I was reminded by Houston that we did put some spec language in there that they
need to go over that uh at least twice with um equipment to smooth that out and a lot of that didn't happen once again yeah unfortunately this this spring has been very wet we can't get out there without doing more damage than good so I don't know when and in the meantime
though vegetation has kind of naturally occurred and grown up so um uh yeah we're still trying to develop uh how to get them to come back and it means having them come back and fulfill that contract obligation we will probably be
tearing out vegetation that has kind of naturally occurred but then paying for receding when it was already growing and I guess from my perspective I I would hope whatever resolution we're going to get on this hopefully is going to stay in the repair and not move into a maintenance issue yeah yeah because as
it is now it is a main I'm out there at least weekly at this location and I was out there just Tuesday water is moving through that area although yeah you can argue not as fast as it's Downstream and and because it's narrow there it is a a choke point once again I took a I walked
out there and took a shovel and cleared out a bunch of stocks of either canary grass or corn or something that had choked up that opening again so and Kade talks about you know what it does laterally our plug is going to move water laterally MH yeah yeah so and when
you think about any kind of blockage or just to use an analogy of a dam you have a dam of a certain height it backs up the water to an elevation higher than that elevation so we're trying to minimize the water table 6 in is kind of what we agreed we
can they believe uh at a point laterally from the ditch if you don't drop that water groundwater elevation more than 6 in no impact but that doesn't mean we're limited only Excavating the ditch 6 in that's where we're trying to calculate
how what's the depth of excavation of sediment can we remove and still impact a groundwater elevation by less than 6 in so that's where those those you know nrcs their nrcs adopted equations come
into effect where and what do happen happened with the height on your I know you've got a steak set out there have you yeah had a lot of rain so it had gone down since our road tour but I haven't been out there this week I bet it's back up again so um
yeah okay frustrating anything else Julie you've heard where we're at so hopefully we have some future answers in the next few weeks here and that would be a good thing it would be we'd like to see that
I'm I measured from the center of the of the ditch to the corner of my property and it's about 900 ft that's underwater no that's how far I am off the ditch for that water to come back up into me okay all right I I I I don't think uh I
don't think this is a news flash but it's embarrassing for us to sit up here and not be able to do anything yeah after what we've seen so but our hands are tied though too yeah that's a problem that's the most frustrating thing is our hands are always well I
think the best thing we can do is continue to keep out in front land owners and keep the pressure on to do what we can do so I think on back to County ditch 10 since we haven't adopted the repair report or ordered the repair I I fear these new statutes are going to
come into play with this so we may have to go back and even modify the recommendations the repair report typically has recommendations to the drain Authority on which course of action to do and just like in 9 and 14 there was a couple options and we had we were working towards a couple options on
10 we may have to go back and revise those if um yeah so if you if we approve something and then new things come out after the fact would they be grandfathered in or do we got to all of a sudden revert back so it might be
getting the horse in front of the cart again and getting this get speed up speed it up yeah yeah I don't know that sounds like a question for an attorney assant FYI the changes do not
go into effect until August 1st um however based on our time frames I don't know that we'd be able to have a public hearing on the repair petition since we're still in the draft phase of the petition thanks Michelle yeah um I do I
did include that for County ditch 10 and and once again Here's the the and and I say these hopefully are worst case scenarios so this alternative one was impacting type three4 five wetlands and mitigating for those areas it's a $2.5
million repair cost or if we do something similar where we avoid impacting those and buying Credits based on what we know for credit costs it's $522,000 so you know oneth um of the
cost so but once again alternative one we need to consider this additional potential impact area or do those things where I don't know we we we did the reestablishment of drainage record so we have that as constructed ditch bottom
elevation that we know now do we not do we do a repair that doesn't take it back to to that or not so wouldn't that be over the threshold of on the 2.5 million the benefit the benefit well I don't remember the
benefits on cd10 I mean cd10 was a lot longer system um since cd10 is also an outlet for cd6 and cd7 those those ditches itself receive a benefit so I think the benefit value May
been been higher we may still be under that but it's and doesn't 10 dump into 11 correct 10 dumps into 11 immediately Downstream of it yeah the gift that keeps giving oh yeah anything else Chris all connected no
that's all I have yeah once again no action just information um MERS we are working on things behind the scenes even though there's no actions yet today so members anything right we're Jour to 1026 oh yeah