okay calling the meeting of the Berkeley Heights Environmental Commission to order at 7:34 p.m on March 17th adequate notice of the meeting was provided informing the public time according to
the open public meetings law it's taking place in the dark room dog wood room on the second floor of the township and by the way um the next meeting will have a new uh link coming
in okay so we're recording the meeting and who is taking minutes sorry who's taking yeah me okay minutes for January 6th and February 17th january 6th does anyone reviewed January 6th
no february 17th yeah I did review those i can the changes change if I did I shared those chains you did yeah you did yeah draw two yeah
all right i can make a motion to approve the uh Do we have a second second motion to approve february second from February february 17th okay hearing on agenda items
three minutes per resident whoops certain expenses to municipalities okay want to say something yeah i was I was You guys are moving quickly i was going to um u related to the trees item on the
agenda i was just going to share that the um there's a bill that started moving in on the Senate side came out of committee this past week that's related to that let me uh just continue what I'm doing here
we'll do that and I'll grab one more thing which will just make it easier to convey and you'll have it as a record uh there it is all right here we go one more
thing there we go anyway it it's it's a bill that allow like a municipality to finance stuff by being able to issue long and short-term debt it adds this kind of need to the law and um actually you can read the
thing it's probably faster than if I say anything it has to do with natural disasters right no no i'm I'm seeing the part that says it amends the local budget law to permit a local government to adopt special
emergency appropriation following natural disasters there's I think there's two paragraphs before it there's two paragraph one right authorization oh okay so that's that's a separate part of the bill is what you're
saying yeah the bill it does this it amends something to do that and it also amends to permit it following so yes it's all it's all different anyway you you I've got the link there you can read the whole bill i just wanted to bring it to your
attention um because it's another another thing which helps with trees that that can help a a municipality and like I said this companion bill and and the the one on the Senate side uh uh came out of committee this past week so
it's actually not just something sitting waiting for a hearing but one of the one side has started and that's what I wanted to bring to your attention okay on to plans resolutions for 585 Planefield
31 and 714 Springfield david do you want to talk to any of those um I don't think so did I put anything in my note that I forwarded it on well you you you sent the resolutions
okay and I noticed I don't think I had any further comments okay of a gym great then on to 20 overhill way 20 overhill way so yeah I sent a letter
of recommendation for that one yesterday um I had a hard time figuring this one um I don't know how looked at it um it wasn't clear for me so what was
clear was that there was past impervious coverage added without permission beyond the scope of what was permitted for the property uh wasn't clear to me whether it was the current residents who did that or pirates so I don't know if the current residents are fixing something
that they did or fixing something that the previous property owner did um so I think they're seeking retroactive retroactive approval of a new state of imperious coverage which is
above and beyond what was committed by ordinance but less than what was there before and I'm not sure where I land on i'm not sure whether I recommend to accept or to deny
Okay um anyone want to comment what I I saw was that there was existing coverage right that was over 30% and they're proposing to reduce that existing coverage to more
than the maximum but reducing it down to what 29% so uh and it looks like they have two uh dry wells in on a property that's capturing the runoff from the
uh downspouts of the house mhm and then there's an old earth flow from that one of those drywalls that's going out to the street so that that's the way they're doing storm water management agree i
didn't see the drywall they didn't see two little circles in front of the house on the on the plan and they were showing pipe piping coming into those drywalls and then an overflow pipe going down to the street actually across the street to
a catch face if you look at that um right uh that drawing that they provide um so that's that's appropriate right if you put in a storm water management measure you've got to put some provision that if it gets filled right exactly the water gets
dis right and in the back they were proposing to remove some of the patio and I think there was a a grill or something in the back right So I saw opportunity maybe to put uh
either take I don't know what kind of patio that was i didn't get into that those are pavers so they could uh temporarily remove the pavers and put in a sub
uh drain if you will they could put in wrap them like under the pavers so that they would become perfectous pavers mhm so that would be one option or just uh have a a swale on the on the outside of
the pavers to capture the runoff from the pavers that could help to um mitigate the storm water runoff and they've got a they've got a sidewalk there they could also put a swale next
to the sidewalk to help capture that area there [Music] um so I I would say you know probably you're right that it was a previous owner that put in the papers
with it but I didn't you know go into the details of that to see if that was true yeah because this is a continuation of a prior right application i didn't have all the information i I didn't either right that was from last year it was actually a year ago right right and
then they had something in it October then yeah so that that would that's what I would suggest that that we recommend that they do that as a way of mitigating the storm
water relevant because they're over the maximum in any case they're still over the maximum so um I can revise my current draft to recommend acceptance but that to to
mitigate the additional storm water above and beyond the permitted by ordinance um swailes alongside driveway and or patio redo the patio as a pvious patio is
pvious yeah so if everyone agrees with that I can revise that and reshare it okay anyone want to make a motion to approve with
the recommendation with these changes motion [Music] to make a recommendation with the changes discussed mhm yeah may I hear a second 420 railway i second
rene thanks Renee okay ben 343 Snider okay so that was a bigger application easier task in a way
um so this is a industrial property on slider A um so they're essentially adding a building behind attached to the existing buildings they're building over an area
that is already as so there's no imperous um surface being removed in fact they're taking up a strip of what is currently either impervious asphalt or gravel and they're going to top them and see that
so there's actually a next decrease in impervious coverage um so I had no um no objections to the application the one recommendation I have was that they consider putting some native trees in
the um area that they see i think you mentioned something about storm water management measurements they define yeah so there's no mention storm they define maybe it it's not changing but it would
be a question to be asked in many cases okay any comments questions yes so consider planting native trees along the west native property develop a storm management plan and if trees are removed see codes
so if nobody has any comments we have a motion to approve the recommendation to approve i Yeah y Okay so Angus just said motion to approve you're seconding motion okay
thanks Chris scout projects keep going back to you no stance community guard Renee no updates okay storm water ordinance so there was
a meeting uh almost two weeks ago on this uh the township and as uh Angus and I read some concerns we had and also some comments that two environmental
engineers made on the on the ordinance but uh the uh council apparently is not listening to these recommendations and concerns and will apparently pass the ordinance tonight tomorrow night sorry
unless I've heard otherwise you've heard anything i've heard anything i also contacted John Foster the president of the uh council uh separately and asked him if he uh could uh table it so that there
could be discussion and I did not hear back from him so at this point my understanding is they will approve the storm water ordinance as is in the
uh agenda of the township council meeting hey Rich if I may interject you're correct and that's probably going to be the outcome but just to make sure it's everything is as supposed to be there is
a there will be a public hearing so you get to u uh restate andor say different things about the ordinance and still make your request on the record of what you want to see happen and I guess you can also address what transpired at the end of
your talk last time regarding um wasn't um Margaret supposed to help you discuss the items you brought up margaret asked us to center those items and I did
and she and I'm assuming since you didn't mention it thus far she has not replied that's what I would say as well that she has not replen and you know and you know and that's something else you can bring
up remind them you know summarize the kinds of things that were said be able to say then Margaret has been taking the lead with us that to do this and has as has not gotten back to her as we expected and I guess you can you can try and bug her tomorrow and say why haven't
you gotten back to And then you can talk about that at the meeting and my my take and you saw me do it well I did it last time is you have to go on the record with where you stand even if they ignore you because then you have some
ammunition down the line you also have if they one other thing you also have the option um when an ordinance an ordinance cannot go after an ordinance has passed the council it has to be signed by the mayor and it has 20 days before it becomes law
and technically speaking part of that estoppel period is to allow an appeal um of the ordinance although that's probably going to court and that's probably not something that you would do but
Um that's just more process talk so anyway that's I just wanted to make sure you had the could take the opportunity to do the most you could do thank you fyi Steve got up and talked against the
ordinance to reduce the speed limit on Park Avenue uh but they voted in favor of the reduces speed limit and then worse off they I'm sorry Steve no they they botched the implementation I need
to correct that he vote he spoke against the ordinance to reduce it to 30 miles an hour but he recommended reducing to 35 miles an hour oh yes that's that's that's what I did and then hey by the way since you mentioned it the um
despite what you may have seen on Park Avenue um they can't the the uh they want to make like 30 is happening mayor knows it's not because of what I was just telling you about the state law so they're not
enforcing a 30 mph speed limit on Park Avenue um at least until March 25th and technically when real signs go up because those variable message displays that are talking about you know the new limit those aren't valid um legal speed
limit signs so just be your own as residents of the town um like I say the uh they really can't they're not going to enforce it until the 25th and hopefully by then if they want to they have to have the real signs up but that's just uh resident talk there
thanks anything else on the stormwater ordinance uh and then on to adopt the train Kim um so at the end of April um Berkeley Heights will be participating in a national
contest um and those who adopt a new drain between April 15th and April 30th will receive a drawstring bag from the National Adopted Drain Program um it's unclear a bit to
me more clarification as to how exactly a winner is going to be determined um but Berkeley Heights is going to be aggregated with the small towns
participating um so again unclear if a winner is going to be done by the amount reported the number of drains adopted some combination of the two um so that's TBD but um I I will be sending something
to advertise that on the le board and in the uh the weekly blast shortly and that is it do you have you want to add something to the April newsletter as well um when do I have to draft something to
get in there by i would say by sometime this week should be okay um I I'll I'll see what I can do did they publish anything do you want me to try to write up something if if you
don't have time sorry you you broke up a sec could you please repeat that is there communication from them already that like already is in place that that I could use if you want some help on that
um yeah let me see what Well it makes more sense for me to just send you a something because the announcement had to be extracted for me to say what I'm saying right now anyhow so if it's just a couple of sentence I can probably send that off to you
shortly fine all right um sustainable Jersey applications so uh the ongoing uh survey of going green I need to post
that to um tap into i had drafted an article and sent it to Nari and she agreed with it i just need to post that to tap into and separate from that the mayor's wellness
campaign currently had a big event uh just before the township meeting uh last time and I sent an email to the mayor saying that in the past the we've
actually uh been able to get points for that uh campaign so it uh I suggested that uh perhaps they could and that that has ex those points have expired so we could
apply the points again and all you have to do is simply submit the documentation of what we've been doing already so it's not an enormous effort i didn't hear back from the mayor on on it
so the first item that article that you drafted is to go to do you say tap into tap into the survey and the wellness campaign is a sustainable Jersey action uh which I
encourage the mayor to submit documentation for and then recork i'm sorry i too many other things going on i did follow up with uh the one uh uh liquor store uh
but he never came back to me so I have to come back to him and ask him again uh whether he is interested in doing that and if not then I'll go on to the other liquor topics for the township newsletter
before we leave that topic um just as a reminder that I'm running this township clean up clean up of Columbia Field Yes 27 yeah
and coordinating that with the um little flower church great and also the other thing that happened with regard to recycling I guess you could call it because of uh Pat uh Shanley came up
this past Saturday to Pac River Park and uh some of Lara's students went down at the park as well on on Saturday to uh pull out uh invasives because Jim Nickitz is uh going to provide plants to
put into that area okay so just wanted to report sorry are are we talking about cleanups now then as well yes okay um so I have something to add um we will be doing a cleanup of
Snyder Park on Saturday April 5th from 2 to 4:00 p.m um it will be an adopted beach litter cleanup so it will be part of the statewide adoptive beach cleanup program um I've already coordinated with
the state um the state has been in touch with the county the county has been in touch with the powers that be at uh DPW so we have um all equipment will be arriving timely uh the coordination of
the um pickup of the litter recyclables is already moving along and um I already sent the announcement to go out on the LED board on the corner of Planefield in Springfield and in the weekly blast that
Carolyn George sends out so if you aren't and the rain's going to be on Sunday the 6th from 2 to 4 so if you know of any Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts or Girl Scouts who would like to come out and participate or if you would like to
come out and participate uh please do and uh did you also notify uh Dan Verner or Robert Burn about this sorry who dan Reneer or Robert Burn i don't know
who who are they where are the county contacts that you need to inform that there's going to be an activity on county property um I have informed Dan hold on let me see who it
was give me just a second dan Berner bernier ber N I E R i already notified him excellent excellent bernounces Bernier yes maybe at some point it was Bernier he pronounces it Bernier okay so he he has been in the
loop he's been informed also excellent okay um and I also want to mention that when I asked Carolyn to uh put this announcement in the weekly blast she also wrote back to me and asked um if we
are thinking about doing future cleanups um she would welcome our doing a cleanup of um Lower Colombia Park because I kind of got the sense from her that it kind of is in need of cleaning i can't attest to
the state affairs down there but to the extent that we would be interested in doing a cleanup of Lower Columbia Park be a welcome thing so I'm just floating that out there oh
sorry i either you're breaking up or you're hesitating right we're not We only heard about half of the last things you said yeah so the clean up I'm doing next weekend okay
so will the cleanup we're doing at Lower Colombia this weekend address Carol and George's concern no no no sorry you must you must have misheard me so we are not doing a cleanup in Lower Columbia but Carolyn has asked that if
we are thinking of doing additional cleanups to the one at Snyder Park that we do consider doing a townwide cleanup in Lower Colombia because it according to her it sounded like Lower Colombia
could use a bit of cleaning yes so that's what I said the cleanup that I'm organizing this coming weekend is at lower Columbia so I think does Carolyn is Caroline aware of that and and I'm not
sure i'll let her know okay liz is aware but I'm not sure if um Carolyn's aware i'll let her know okay kim uh on the cleanup on April 5th or April 6th depending on rain day um do you want that posted in any way
beyond the mediums that you chose sorry say that last part again Angus you broke up a little bit on April 5 April 6 you know depending on cleanup do you want that advertised in any other mediums besides the ones you mentioned
like Facebook no letter no nope just the two that I mentioned so Kim there's um if if you need volunteers there's confirmation students that are looking for volunteer hours obviously they need
to be supervised by adults but we can definitely find some some willing bodies there as well um so h how will you know how many people I guess you need that are committing to this on the
April date is it kind of just you know you wait and see who shows up now you're asking Kim yes and Kim just muted herself so no sorry I got dropped i just came back on
so sorry about that um do you want me to repeat my question yeah cuz I didn't hear it okay so um I know this weekend we have an event that David's running um and it'll be you know manned by by a lot of confirmation
little flower confirmation candidates um they're still looking for many are looking for volunteer hours because I think their hours are due by the end of June or something like that um if you want I can advertise your event to those
candidates to try to get able body yeah sure yeah that that would be great um just please make sure that when you do advertise the April 5th cleanup at Snyder Park that you
emphasize it's not a drop off event so that parents know that if they are bringing their underageed kid they need to be there to supervise their child we've had events in the past where people would just come along drop their
kids off and you know hope for the best that someone would be there to chaperone them so this is not that kind of event if a kid is coming there needs to be a chaperone assigned to that kid who comes with that kid
no no understood and and the confirmation candidates uh because of rules and regulations they do need to be supervised by an adult so it would um yeah that wouldn't happen here okay thanks Kim okay yep
and if they ask by the way Renee um we will be providing um gloves bags and um grabbers the grabbers were a a fan favorite among the the kids last time like a kind of a handheld thing that
kind of grabs the trash you don't have to touch the trash you can pick it up with the grabber and stick it in the bag yeah no I have one of those so I may reach out via offline and just get more details so um but let's we can end the
conversation here thank you right very good um we already I think covered topics for the township newsletter well just checking in again so uh you know we have the tree ceiling giveaway yes what was the um what was
the tubling that we are giving away ask me later i guess I'll look it up i know that we've got it all right so we have possibly adopt the drain we have uh tree seedling giveaway
and uh we can also do um since it's um April and you know planting season has begun uh I think we should
uh repost the tree volcanoes oh yes yeah and possibly also um invasives invasives like think about last year exactly at April we did invasives seedlings volcanoes so we
could just literally repeat the same one with some modifications okay i I also want to draft uh an article on uh how people can uh help uh reduce
flooding uh I'll I'll send it to you i don't know if it will make any i'm sorry for the I'll send it to you okay sorry one more idea so I know there's a lot of emails often going around with our tree planting
program do we want to publish something about that yes yes you mean the township right away tree planting exactly i know we either have people begging for a tree or begging not to get a
tree right um and then there's in between like me who had a tree planted but it's not doing well so what do I do right so if we could address those three topics I think that would be good yeah water them in hot weather
h uh and generally I'm trying to send out a tree care uh brochure that comes from the uh from the federal level it's how to take care of your trees when whenever
anyone uh uh is on the list for a tree I send them this busher or a link to the busher i'll send it to you Rene if you don't have it that's fine happy to review thank you
okay um St pville Park and Trails I basically covered it because we were doing recycling anything else on the St river Park yes so there's going to be a couple of more meetings right that Did you see that email no no I just So there's
there's they were proposing a couple of more meetings i'll forward that to everyone i thought I had but there are a couple of more meetings for the sake of the park so who is calling those it's coming uh
from um it looks like it's coming from Pat Shanley and uh uh Named and it's multiple Saturdays uh coming up oh so it's um it's clean up
event it's um invasive it's invasive right right and so before you mention and I didn't fully note um somebody was providing funding for plants trees to
be installed you mentioned his name was the name you said you thought you saw Pat at the weekend i didn't see Pat at the weekend though oh you meant Pat was up at the weekend she was up at the weekend but I couldn't make it to that meeting
oh Jim McNavitz okay jim McNavitz he is the county agent um with Ruters okay yeah he is applying plans for for that area all right so the RTGI grant um so we're
doing another planting the bid is out they're waiting for uh that is the request for bids is out there waiting for uh quotes to come in uh and then uh this next planting is twofold one is
along the rights of way and the other part is at the Wong reservation and for the Wong reservation you have the complication of building a fence uh putting in
irrigation and uh including wheat mats because that whole area was covered with invasives so Dan Ber cut down all the invasives to the ground and uh but now when we so they're they might just be
starting up at the time of the planting which will probably be uh April May June no not June April May sorry and in the case of the plantings along the right away we ask the
homeowners is to water the plants or tell us if they're not going to water the plants so that we can schedule watering of the plants and last time we used a a
a watering bag that was called a gator bag in common parliament which people had problems with i think basically the problem was that they didn't read the directions but there is another type of bag where you don't have to read
directions and it's like a donut you put the donut around uh the base of the tree and you fill it up it's a 20 gallon doughut and there are two outlets on the bottom that just allow that water to
slowly seep down into the ground they may be a better choice for this next round of planting in any case the option not the option but the trees that were planted last
year still need some caring and in the summer if it gets above 90 even though they've been in there for a year they should be watered but now the watering shouldn't be just at the base of the tree it should be out a little bit farther from
the the base of the tree because the roots are going out from the base of the tree so those gator u bags on those trees I mean they'll give it some water but it would be good to be
watering outside of that uh perimeter what else do I need to say about that [Music] um I think that's about it for the for the RGI DGI the community energy plan grant it
looked like we were ready to move forward but actually because of the way the BPU is working we our next step won't be until April sometime there's another meeting coming up in
April and at that point by that point we need to make decisions as to what kind what kinds of things we would be applying for grants for and we haven't had a lot of input at this point
uh uh for example for electric vehicles uh but there are other opportunities that might be addressed then the Green Acres grant for Hans tools well there's this ANject grant that just was announced for grants
of about $1,500 uh I haven't heard back from Dan Berner to say "Oh yeah we you know he wouldn't welcome having a shed on Grand Street." So I don't know what the status is on
that i will ask Dan again so I do the Saturday morning trail cleanup uh trail maintenance in Wong Reservation dan runs that right i know so I'm not sure when the next one is if I get to one of those in the next few weeks right I will ask
Dan in person because this um the ANJ grants aren't due until early May right so there'll be a couple of cycles where I can perhaps catch Dan in person and um right and the other thing is I can't remember now i looked at a couple of
sheds at Home Depot they were I think around $7 or $800 i'm not remembering but at the same time Nari wants to buy seeds for uh the uh street fair to give
away at the street fair and so the question is could she apply for the grant to do that could we do a two-fold grant in other words could we apply A for tool shed and and B for seeds the
seeds that she picked out were from this website Prairie Moon which has a lot of native plants all as far as I am aware all of those seeds uh would need to go through cold stratification basically what that means
is either you're doing a process which requires you to uh put them into a cold area and follow directions as to how that cold stratification works or let nature do it
my tendency is to let nature uh do it for my plants so I've taken seeds I put them in pots I put them out last fall and now I'm waiting for to see whether they'll sprout because they've gone through this natural cold
stratification um so the seeds may you know if she gives them away in the summer the people need to know plant them in the fall and give uh directions as to how to do that
erri we don't hear about that until May right correct so that application is complete I submitted the um ordinance of support from the township as well and B city
USA uh I don't know whether the town has paid the uh dues for membership I will ask but there is support from PC USA for planting native plants as well there's
uh a separate issue with the schools and for many years we've been uh offering trees at the schools uh but now we're talking about
two things one is the uh saplings are are for the school and residents i think we're basically set up with that we just need to tell people to remind them again and get them to sign up and the schools will get theirs on harbor day the day
before armor day but there's a broader issue with the schools and that is um there are rain gardens at the schools which the schools aren't taking care of there's either a teacher taking care of a rain garden or scouse taking care of a
rain garden and the custodians are not aware of what is going on with those rain gardens and uh so I suspect that in some cases they are simply mowing uh too
close to the rain garden because there's a burm around the edge of the rain garden i have proposed that uh I talk with the schools about this or the andor the custodians and so Larara Menden Paul
has set up a meeting with the the uh principal of Governor of Livingston High School Roth Nixon and I will meet with him on Thursday to see if we can talk about that plus do things for the with
the schools that make it easier for the schools to do their jobs and maintain their um their properties one of them is some schools especially um the uh high school have steep slopes
where they try to uh mow the lawn it's a very difficult thing to be trying to mow the lawn on a slope which is you know 30% uh slope uh so the what they did was
they put down uh mulch what happens when there's mulch on the slope and it rains it washes down the slope so there's another way to address that and that is to put certain plants that like being on
slopes and fill in on slopes and uh that don't need uh care they will uh prevent the soil from walking down and uh eliminate a job uh uh for the
custodians there's also areas that uh are all lawn and it's not really used lawn it's just lawn so is there a a way to reduce that lawn so that's part of the discussion uh
to going to have with uh Rob Mixon budget no word on the budget except that we think that we may have a budget for the ERRI uh because the township did pass a resolution that
would include a possible budget for the ERRI we've got agreement from Liza from the township that they'll fund the ERI so it all depends on our budget no it doesn't depend on our budget but there was our request to for
the township to give us some budget in addition to what we're using from the Exxon agreement right we got Yes the grant Exxon agreement and possible additional funds funding from from the township that last little
bit is an option on the part of the town we hope that they agree you mean the town supporting the ERRI no not supporting RRI the third part of the budget where the
town if you read the resolution in the or in the township uh uh agenda it was saying they would do that part they would supply that as part
of the budget if the money is available just got to look back at the agenda I don't I didn't see an if I I Yeah okay so in that case we're not going to get our money well we're not going to get you well we're not no we're not going to get run well we'll see
all right mayor's Wellness Committee request for I should also Mayor's Wellness Committee Harvest that set up yeah i'm um one of contact i met with mayor's wellness committee a couple of weeks ago so I'm in contact
um so yeah it's it's October and then skip the stuff that uh was Angus were you following up on that yeah yeah I'm still working on developing some materials and talking to restaurants
okay then one other thing or uh is uh the the tree inspector Tom Bako uh wrote me about locust trees uh in front of the Bank of America the owner
of that property not Bank of America they're leasing it from Frank May uh he wants to take down those locust trees because he feels like he's spending too much time pruning them i haven't looked at them closely but Tom's
asked me to look at those trees on Snider Avenue so they're on uh the property they're not in the right away they're on the property and they want to remove those out of the streets
that's all I've got in addition anybody else nothing for me oh there's one other item um I forgot to mention it earlier in the agenda it's just a reminder i mentioned it before april 5th which is the same date as Kim's Yes
snider clean up that's the um invasive blitz that the county is running at um watching reservation scouts okay so that's capturing invasive species just as they green up um is it repeated last
year so are you doing the Japanese uh barberry or or not most of it last year was um at least on this the bit that I was at was um the multiffllora rose test
multiflloral rose then it greens up when I was greening up in May in April well the Japanese barberry also greens up so it's we each group is assigned a piece of trail so it's basically whatever's on that trail okay along the
trail yeah okay yeah that's April 5th and are you uh just trying to pull it up or or are you allowed to spray it no spraying no spraying okay either cutting or pulling
okay except you're cutting can't bo anyway okay all right yeah scouts and chemicals don't we all right just asking David because I know that there is an option not for you
particularly but there is an option with pesticide registered pesticide people to uh treat treat with Yeah and I've done that with the Monday morning um in the RIP team at the watching reservation um
Michelle Bakers and others so yeah there's folks who are licensed with pesticides that way okay anything else from anyone before I open up to citizens
hearing if not then okay citizens hearing steve thank you um hey I I just wanted to mention during during the meeting I u um put my updates in adopt a drain from the drain cleanings prior to
the one inch of rain we got this week or yesterday and I just want to do a followup to my earlier mention about uh preparing for talking at the public hearing for the wastewater thing in addition to what I said one of the other thoughts I had is given limited time of
3 minutes perhaps one of the more important things to to mention is what um bad things or not so good or ideal things can happen if you are not listened to and I remember several several things from your discussion um
at the last meeting um or from being there and listening to you was um um you know the impact it can have on on homeowners where there might be overkill for some things and there are several other points that I I think are important to make that uh the public
should know that they you know the council was forewarned before they made those choices you know not to adopt some of your suggestions hey that that's what I wanted to add that's it i want to give a shout out to Steve thank you for cleaning your drain and reporting
Steve like I haven't done it in six months they haven't been that clogged so I took a couple of uh little branches off of my uh catch basin but I didn't
record it i think it was probably maybe a quarter of a pound yeah I think Yeah I think I had the same kind of thing there it's a little bit here and there and then you don't you you don't go and put it in but uh um there was enough at one to say this this this will really add up
so anyway okay yeah so uh I mean the interest I mean coming back to the stormwater ordinance the you know what we were trying to do
was to try to make a an a form of an ordinance that would make it easy for people to understand what to do uh to uh mitigate storm water
runoff for small developments a large uh the the um order ordinance for major uh developments uh there were more options there that we thought maybe
could be discussed but more important was the minor uh developments on the level of uh you know a homeowner who's maybe building a patio or maybe you know expanding
uh and uh the feedback that I got from the uh environmental engineers was very positive that it seemed like a good thing to do the other aspect is uh environmentally when you're building a
rain garden versus putting in a a dry well um the rain garden is uh doing uh multiple things for you the dry well is just capturing the runoff and dry wells
do not uh qualify for storm water runoff from driveways so the because uh the the storm water runoff from a
driveway means that there are vehicles on the driveway which are dropping uh oil and the like and that runoff therefore is nonpoint source pollution run off from a from a
roof is different than runoff from a dry and we were trying to encourage people to do our rain gardens because of the multiple benefits of a rain garden okay do I hear a motion
motion to at uh 8:303 second all right okay thanks everybody for coming have a good night