Just tell me when. Okay, we're live on YouTube and and we're on Zoom. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Uh I call the meeting to order. Roll call, please. Mayor Kenos here. Miss McCriedi is absent. Mr. Rivero,
I'm here. Thank you. Mr. Ruse is absent. Mr. Trainer. Uh, let me see. I got He's He's on. Where'd he go? The phone icon. Yeah.
And now he's gone. Oh, Ma is absent. Mr. Zazarino, now we only have Yeah, we need to wait for Rich to get back in order to have a He fell off. Yeah, he dropped off a
right here. He comes. Oh, good. Okay. Is he back? Yes. All right. Mr. Oh, sorry. I didn't go through the video. Did he say yes?
He's here. Yeah. Absent. Mr. Zazino here. Yeah. Okay. Notice of this meeting was provided to the Burnsville News and Courier News filed with the municipal clerk and posted on the municipal bulletin board on June 17, 2025. Please
stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Thank you. Okay, let me just get this up here. Oh, it's gone. Welcome to the June 27th, 2025 meeting of the Burnsville Burough Council.
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ordinance resolution or motion. All right. So now we have our first open session for items not listed for a public hearing. So, if anyone in the public would like to be heard, again, this is a time to
make comments. It is not a Q&A session. It's just for you to give us um your comments. So, um there I don't know there's a anybody want to put their little hand signal
that wants to speak. Anthony. Oh, I see one. Okay. I see Andrew. I ask them to unmute. Hi. All right. Hi. Just name and address first. Sure. Andrew Malia, 20 Columbia Drive. So, is this time to talk about
the affordable housing agenda item or this is not the time to talk about the affordable housing agenda item? No, you can. Okay. Because we're not having a public hearing. Got it. Okay. So, first off, I just want to say thank you all um
for volunteering your time. Appreciate it. Um I just wanted to kind of um say that um you know, I I kind of I watched the planning boarding meeting yesterday and I watched the previous council meeting. It all kind of makes sense to me. It seems like basically
we're we're in an early stage of the next round and things can still kind of be fluid, which which sounds good. I' I'd um I appreciate how the town handled and I don't know all the details, but um
63 Bernard's A in the sense that you you all kind of looked at a property that was already existing and saw it as an opportunity to meet our affordable housing requirements and I know that the same was done I think by uh a private citizen on North Finley maybe recently.
Um, and so I would just ask that, you know, as we work this out, we kind of look at the existing rental properties in our area and see if we can work with the owners or landlords or whomever to see if that, you know, and I know that
would only kind of chip away at the total number that we have to meet in the next 10 years, but it seems like it would check a few boxes for us in the sense that meeting the obligation and then also, you know, if there are properties that need a little TLC, that um it's our opportunity to address that.
Um and then um you know also just not rake ground on properties that are currently you know grassy open space or whatever. Um so I would just ask that as as we proceed forth with this over the next few years that we we keep that in
mind. Um and that's it. Thank you. Thank you Andrew. Uh, excellent points and I think um, Jack, maybe you can address this. Is there a limit to how many we can rehab? I know we and for this fourth
round, our rehab obligation is zero. So, we really can't proceed using that mechanism and I hate to say it, but it's not terribly fluid either. U, you know, we have we have a gun to our head and we had a very short time frame. uh but this
is the housing element that we're submitting to the program which is the successor to COA. So I mean there can be some refinements and adjustments over time but I mean this is basically the plan we're going to we're going to have but it it is fluid in the sense that
none of the projects are well defined. That's correct. Uh and we have 10 years to actually make any of these changes. Yes. and and over the next few months, uh, Jessica Caldwell, the burough planner, will be coming up with
ordinances which establish folk standards and height limitations and and things of that nature for each of the sites. Yeah. So, we have some control over it. But yes, thank you, Andrew. Thank you for your comments.
Um, anyone else wish to speak? Anthony, I don't see anybody. Do you? Uh, no I don't. No. All right. Um, so then I will close the public session. Um, Al, would you like to move that
resolution? I don't have it. Direct up. Give me one sec. I can pull it up if you just give me a second. You just sent it to us. Anthony. While Al's Al's doing that, I just want to make sure you could hear me. This is Rich.
Yes, we can. Yeah. Okay, great. Great. I think I must have been muted earlier. I'm not sure why. Perfect. I got it. Um, just I move that resolution 25-131 be adopted. Oh, you just want to read the
resolution? Sure. I closed it, of course. Um, okay, good. So, resolution 25131, resolution endorsing the fourth round housing element and fair share plan
adopted by the burough planning board on July 26, 2025. I move that June 26. Oh, June what? I'm sorry about that. adopted by the burough planning board on June 26, 2025. And then I move that resolution 25-131
be adopted. And I'll second. Roll call, please. Mr. Rivero, yes. Mr. Trainer, yes. Mr. Zazarino, yes. Is that it?
It it the resolution passes. We had a quorum of four people. the mayor doesn't vote. So, the resolution was adopted three to nothing. And if I can just stress again for any of the public, um, what this does is identify properties that are possible
development sites. It does not give permission to do them. Um, anyone that wants to do one of these projects needs to go through the whole process of planning board and site approval and all that. So this is no this is not you know
yes definitely these projects are happening this is a plan to show where we think there's possibility of adding our affordable requirement. So, and by making sure and by making sure we
have all of our preparations in order for the process here, you know, we're um, you know, ensuring the fact that in the future, you know, all of the, you know, regular kind of processes will take place. And I'd like to point out because the owner of one of the properties was here
Monday night, uh, that the main one is an overlay zone, which means that the owner can continue operating his premises as he's been doing. It's not reszoning the property per se. It's an overlay zone allowing affordable housing at that site. If he ever decides that he
up to him, wants to develop it, which makes possible. Yeah. All right. Do I have a motion to adjurnn? I can move to second. All in favor? I I All right, we are officially adjourned.
Thank you.