I speaker e e is passed by the members then present to extend to a later specified cut off time and same shall be announced at the opening of each meetings in addition the board does not
intend to be a new hearing at the 10 p.m. or be testimony of a new witness at the 1030 p.m. any hearing conducted by the board is a quaity Judicial proceeding any questions or comments must be limited to issues that are relevant to what the board May legally
consider in reaching of Deion the quum appropriate to a Judicial hearing must be maintained at all times no Mr dearco Pres M Gardner here M yes Mr gr here Mr Mar
here Mr St here Mr here Mr wal here and mrar there we go um any minutes or progress October
okay the meeting a 15 just a sentence I Ed the same thing all right um and no November December yet and so motion please
approve all in favor I oppos and of course it's Rel to the eligible members okay communication letter uh from the FR qu Wetlands protection act General
I guess that's block 129 right now block [Music] 129 on the agenda yeah must must time okay any comments any
no uh communication dated February 7th from the D land use authorization for um 90 boy [Music] any concerns there no okay uh if anyone's here to ask
a question or discuss anything that's not related to tonight's agenda this is the first the first two chances we have to communicate that been sh to us none okay
so uh new business uh one item is reviewing and approving the bills com okay a motion on Bas B for 9625 second
to Mr DeMarco yeah Miss Gardner yes m g yes Mr bra yes Mr Morrison yes Mr saso yes Mr yes mral Mr
yes um Steve um I think this would be no before we move on this would be the time we could discuss the cross acceptance requirement that we have we've been asked by the mayor to provide a
representative to um supplement Denise who's been named to that as well as I think John's been name to it but we need to provide a um one of us is a member
acceptance John also said oh he can go to the next meeting which is the meeting which is on the 20th he said today that he was going to be yeah but we still n and that's great we still need to designate somebody on the board for Sub sub committee to
participate in that committee could be any any member I believe there's no restriction based on class no or lack there I was hoping for a straight you
correct it's um I did send this out before the board it's um one in person meeting which I think is the meeting on the 20th but it may not be and then the rest it's just zoom zoom me accept
count our master plan volunte the meeting uh is the 20th I think at 7 p.m. I think it's ear earlier yeah it's either or
viiz yeah one of the things that they request is that it's someone with strong knowledge of borrow doning code and um ordinances because it has the reconcile the master plan
all right thank you H uh okay so uh the next topic is the capital project review for the uh Somerset Hills High School lighting and that's an application you it's it's a Coury review as we've
done before 31a capital projects and also specific school districts we are preempted uh by the state DOA F of education for sighting of school
facilities like but uh we do have the opportunity to have in courtesy review and our Ro is as the question say quote strictly recommendatory and quote uh so we can
make recommendations so we can open it up to the public but there's not a formal hearing on an application for development and obligation on their part to take a recommend good Fai sometimes they do sometimes they
don't see what happens but but we have Council uh uh for the school district here and uh she can introduce herself and explain it at least as well as I um no I think Mr Warner did a good job
my name is Tera Angelo I'm from The Firm of gibart and kefir and I'm here on behalf of the school district for this Capital review hearing and it is just that it is a um under the municipal landage law any time the municipality expends public funds for public purposes
on um structures buildings Etc the planning board uh is able to do a courtesy review in addition uh when the school board submits to the Department of Education with their construction plans and everything for their approval the department of education does require
to have the letter from the board so the department of education does look at any recommendations you provide and that you have done done the review so we do have a requirement to submit that with our plans to the Department of Education and as the board knows we go a little bit beyond the letter we are a little more
formal we grew a memorializing resolution no doubt will be ready for the next me not get Ahad um so with that the last time I was here actually for the school board was back in 2015 when they expanded their
media center and parking lot uh some of the faces are familiar I hope that mine is still familiar after almost 10 years um but this time we are here for a project to put up four light poles obviously with Lighting on top on the football field which is old cot field
some people refer to it as the upper field but the football field and like I said they're they're looking to install four four light pole pools the purpose of this project for the school board is really two fold the first is to enhance the quality uh of the games for the players and The
Spectators currently the lights that are utilized on the field are mobile diesel powered uh diesel powered lights they they don't go up high enough they don't provide a lot of uh enough illumination so this is this would provide a better a better spectator
opportunity also a better experience for for the athletes additionally it is about quality the kids that suffer the most for um games getting called off when it gets too dark and if they can't use the mobile lights it's typically
your girls J Sports those are the those are the kids that can't finish their games so having the lights on the field would enable those athletes to to essentially um complete their games uh each season and tonight I have three
Witnesses with me I have the superintendent here that'll explain to you um how the fields are used what safeguards the school board has put in place to avoid any um any excessive nuisance to the neighbors as well as restrictions they have on how many you
know how many night games uh when the lights get turned off how many night games they'll have that go past 8:00 p.m. Etc we also have our architect here to obviously explain to you the the nitty-gritty of the project where the light Poes are going Etc and then we also have our lighting expert from musco lighting to explain to you what type of
product they're using how it reduces uh nuisance I think if the school board was here 20 years ago looking to put up the lights you would have had a lot more issues with um lights spillage and nuisance um but right now the technology
has vastly improved since then and our liting expert froming uh will go over that with you so um to get started I was going to have your superintendent come up and tell you about the project and everything we've done uh everything we've done so far
prior to even getting here the school board has done studies held community outreach meetings where would be the best [Music] place the and not withstanding the fact that it is not a formal public hearing on an application for
development people will accommodate me I'll swear in Witnesses nonetheless so if you'll raise your right hand you swear to God orir that's you're about to give is nothing but yes thank you and also notice is not the formal ml notice
for an application for development or for certain typ uh is not required CI of course open public media and if you just want to state your name and spell it for the record sure I
Brian roel b r i a n last name b r o t s c HL I'm superintendent of schools here in Somerset Hills thank you for having me we do have a PowerPoint presentation that is going to guide most of his
testimony so I don't have to really interrupt him and we call the whole thing A1 for reference purposes identification purposes and however many pages it is we're able we maybe just keep track of the pages as we reference so if you want to start off
what was our first slide oh yes just going over if you would go over the overview of the work you've done so far sure so the sumerset Hills board of education has been engaged in this work regarding Sports lighting feasibility study we began our work uh in formality
in June of 23 and we finalized it uh last July the board recently acted in September um to approve an application to the bville planning board uh regarding our work the goal here was to
improve the quality of the lights on our facility and to increase access as far as how many kids have the ability to utilize our facilities uh so bit of historic review we installed Turf and considered the
installation of Lights in the time period of 2008 to 2014 in 2022 the board uh adopted a strategic plan that had a deep and Broad engagement with the community uh inside of that strategic plan was a goal to
assess the feasibility of installing LED lights on Ott field at burnard's high school we began uh that visibility study work as I said in June of 23 and it followed into um the first half of 2024
we had Community forums uh we engaged the community in a survey we had focus groups that were set up on five different occasions and we even took some field trips um up to other facilities to see uh the new installation the new trends in lighting
installations in uh specifically in athletic facilities and we targeted facilities specifically that had what we call Neighborhood high schools so high schools that were constructed inside of residential ER so we're very targeted in our
work we were able to publish a full feasibility study uh that the board conducted and there's a QR code on the presentation as well as a link if you uh would like to peruse that
so our work uh as I shared had focus groups had Community forums uh there was a a broad survey um that compris not only District parents but District students and community members uh inside the Somerset Hills uh area um or
Somerset Hills School District we had a lot of feedback uh people were able to identify whether they were parents of school AG children not parents of school age children um students staff members Etc so we we feel like we were able to
have a road buus engagement uh with the community uh it's an entirety in its entirety uh we took a deep dive with various Board of Education committees U specifically our facilities and
operations committee uh our finance committee and our policy committee um and in specifically I'd like to talk about the work that the policy committee did um first and foremost that committee and the board feels very
strong around our responsibility to be great Neighbors in concert with our responsibility for providing equity and access to our facilities for student athletes of of of all teams so whether
you are on the football team JV field hockey J lacrosse varsity lacrosse whatever your team is that utilized our facilities you can you can utilize them for the duration of your games because the reality is that many of our games
were shortened due to lack of sun the board uh defined and codified uh their commitment to the community and their commitment to balancing the needs of the children and their ability to access our
facility inside of their policy um inside of the policy it states that the school and the district is able to utilize those lights up until 8:00 every night uh and there's also 20 stretch nights throughout the course of the year uh that will accommodate uh additional
activities up until 10 p.m. uh so that was very important uh for the board uh and it was a it was an important policy Amendment uh that the entirety of the board um went ahead and and approved in September of 202 uh we
made a Public Presentation to the board and to the uh to the community uh last September and the board did um approve the submission of our application to the planning board based upon the level of community engagement and the level of
our planning um that had transpired um during the past year or so thank you actually since we have this part of the presentation up next uh we have an expert from musco lighting to
just talk about the the technology and the uh questions say the difference to the chair whether we have question this or wait till we done certainly within the distraction
my you raise your right hand you s got airm testimony about the gigs of but this testifying expert capacity so we just sayate your name and spell it yes my name is Robert zoler z o
e l l e r and for the bo thing just go over your qualification sure I'm a technical consultant for musco sports lighting uh I've been involved in 30 years in dealing with lighting projects Sports lighting projects I've been involved in
with 3,000 Sports lighting projects I regularly provide information to over 100 engineering firms architectural firms throughout the Northeastern United States I've been qualified as a lighting expert in Seven States including Superior Court in the state of New
Hampshire yes do you have licenses thank you are you licensed they don't have licenses for um lighting so we not Li if I may as I think the board knows it's a particular area of quotequote expertise
beyond the Ken of the average board member uh the uh then one can be Beed an expert and I was sending the fact that one may not have a professional license TR uh anecdotally uh I was involved as the
board attorney in a project involving Red Bulls new Red Bulls facility lighting if I recall correctly no conflict happen to have be have a lighting expert there it was okay I didn't there you go I can attest to the fact that this
gentleman's been accepted as an expert in his field at least in one for one land you boor the last few years but apparently they so certainly within the discretion of the chair to accept Miss so once again like uh with the last time I will just leave you to your
present presentation great thank you very much and thank you ladies and gentlemen for the opportunity to be here today just to give you a little background who is musco lighting mus lighting will be celebrating 50 years of providing Sports lighting uh solutions
for various groups next year so since 1976 we've been providing Sports lighting solutions we have local offices in New Jersey the product is manufactured in plants located in Iowa it is a USA made product uh we have over
300 LED lighting projects currently in New Jersey and actually it's not 35 high schools we're up to 40 high schools in the state of New Jersey and thank you Mr chairman we were the lighting company that put in the lights at po
grounds to understand the technology we propos and it is the same technology as what is installed at the B grounds to understand technology we do just a quick little overview if you go back to the 19 uh7 needs basically Sports lighting was
simply a blood light it the idea was to get as much light as you can into the area you're trying to light and the light went everywhere there was no control it was just sending light out lighting the area in 1989 uh we started to look at how we
could improve not only the amount of lighting on the field but also to improve or lessen the impact to adjoining residences adjoining neighbors so the first step was we in we installed a fasted luver at the bottom of the reflector so if you look at the second
reflector there versus the first you see that very bright area of glare below the lamp that's very shiny now has been captured and just by doing that we got uh 65% more light on the field we reduced light spillage by
25% as we continued we started to add external lubers because we still had vision of the light source the lamp and that was really the the main source of Weare that's the part when you when you see a a bright Source say for instance a car is coming towards you and they the high beams on basically you're looking
right at those LED diodes in that light and it's very very blinding so we began adding external visor so we had the level eight which was adding a couple of visors and it didn't add any additional wind loading to the fixtures we then
went to an 1989 Total light control which was a very large visor problem with that is it cut off light so we had to add 25% more lighting fixtures to put the right amount of light onto the field in 2005 we came out with the light structure Green Technology as you can see that's the
largest visor we had we were able to control the light coming out of the bottom of the reflector and get more light on the field and then finally here's where we are today with the LED lighting fixture it's called TLC for Total light control LED lighting fixture
it is the only lighting fixture out on the market today that is truly a full cut off fixture by that I mean there's no light emitted above the horizontal of the of the lighting fixture itself okay now in order to kind of illustrate this what we did was we set up a series of
lighting poles and at 100 ft in front of the lighting poles we established a measure of light that we had to achieve so going from left to right if we look at the 1977 tall are those poles those poles are 50 ft tall and if you look at the uh
picture to the left those were the 1977 flood lights it took five 1500 watt lights in order to achieve the lighting level at 100 ft in front of that pole with the Improvement as I said we got 65% more light onto the field when we
added that faceted insert at the bottom now we went to four we were able to take out a 1500 watt fixture and you can see there's a reduction in glare at when we got to the level eight there's a slightly more reduction in glare there's no more gain of efficiency when we get to the total light control now you can
see a reduction in glare you're still seeing a lot of light out of the bottom of the fixtures the light structure green was a big chunk of change it really reduced it by half the number of pictures to two and then if you look at that picture to the right of it there's actually two fixtures that are on that
pole and you basically can't see them because the key to the liting fixure is we're able to cover the ability to see the lighting Source within the lighting fixture cutting away the glare now the one on the right and I put that in there purpose of that is that's an LED
lighting fixture by another Sports lighting manufacturer just so that we understand that just to say you have an LED Sports lighting fixture doesn't mean that you're controlling the light that's another LED Sports lighting fixture there it really looks just like the 1977
fixture because it's not controlling the light outut coming out of the fixure okay how far is the camera from those poles about 25 ft okay so just to see that and illustrate
that on the left is the musco TLC LED fixture you can see there's no glare you're looking right at the fixture from home plate on a baseball field and then you have another field the same type of field with that led fixture that was in the right picture that's not controlled
and it's old flare okay and this is the actual fixture itself as I mentioned it has a very large visor that extends it front of the fixture purpose of that visor is to cut off your ability to see the light source inside the fixture and you can just see
in the right picture of the fixture just a small little sliver of light there to show those LED those LEDs are tucked up inside and the fixture is designed to direct that light downward onto the field to the area that we're trying to
illuminate now with sports lighting and especially with a multi-use high screen field we are dealing with not only ground sports but we're dealing with aerial Sports as well you have punch you have high kicks with socer Etc so with a typical HIV or LED flood light the main
light which is the bright yellow triangle going down to the field that's your main area of concern for lighting but when the ball is traveling vertically up in the air you still have to have light above the field so that you can continue to see that light the ball if you lose sight of that ball
obviously there's possibility for um safety issues can't person loses the ball they could get hit by the ball or there could be various things that would take place so what must was introduced if you go to the next slide as you can see with the full cut
off fixture we have the yellow triangle going down to the field and that is the the light that's being cast down Illuminating the field surface now you notice we put a little house over to the right all the way over to the right there you see we're able to cut off that
light before it gets to the main beam of light before it gets to that little house over there on the right there it is on the other and you can see without the control that house is completely illuminated with the control with the full cut off picture now we keep the light off of the house but we still have
to have light above the field for that for that ball traveling above the light and that's where we put in what we call a little bll tracker fixture it's an inverted fixture that is upside down and puts just a small amount of light up into the into the air above the field so
that there's always light on the bottom of that ball as it travels and you see those if you go to the polar grounds I'm always asked the question what are those lights that are pointing up into the air well they're there purposely so that as that ball is traveling over the field the players the athletes can always
follow path or trajectory of that ball but the benefit of that too is if you notice the beam of light what is it doing it's going way above that those adjacent neighbors so there's no impact whatsoever by that light and that's the little the little
picture it points upward straight up and illuminates the area vertically above the field okay so what we're what we're providing is we're providing gonine steel poles we have the lights on the top of the pole we have the poles themselves we have the found are
concrete foundations there's wiring throughout the pole that we we provide we provide controls I'll talk about that in a minute and our installations are always with prevailing wage which we have to follow with any Municipal project or any border bed project we will also be doing a
geotechnical analysis so the foundations will be designed based upon the so conditions that surround the the field itself we have to be careful because the field does have that slope beyond the field on one side so we'll be making sure that the foundations are designed
in accordance with having uh everything designed so that we're not dealing with that slope and those polls would beet all the IBC criteria for local New Jersey Building Code you're working with um W Department whom member on ensuring that any future
maintenance of all the other field items crack or turf or whatever will not affect your uh conduit or whatever you're running into anticipated that oh yeah we might have to replace the track we might have to do something and it
won't yes but one of the good things in terms of how we we do the lighting is we're able to run the conduit and the wire outside of the field outside of the track so everything is completely free of the field and the track because Fields will need maintenance track the
track will need to be replaced after so many years so everything's completely outside and completely away so that there's no problem with any uh maintenance that would have to be done to the field to the artificial tur or to the track just like Polo Grounds it comes
with a 25e warranty covering parts and labor so we were able to take care of that lighting system for 25 years there's no cost to the board of bed there's proactive monitoring for outages so we monitor if there's a light out we're typically telling the owner hey
you got a light out can you check that for us once we determine that that is there is a light out then we come out and fix it we have over 1,700 technicians and we do have the um controlling controls and I believe the next slide will show that a little bit
basically we have a wireless control system the benefit of the wireless control system is you don't have a time clock when you put the field lights on a Time Clock the time clock is said it's going to go on a certain time at night it's going to go off a certain time at night so you have a Rainy Night nobody's
going on the field but that time clock is still going to turn those lights on turn those lights out also you're not using a Time Clock somebody's going and turn switches switches on switches off manually Keys get lost there there's issues where somebody leaves the field
has to turn the lights off with the wireless control system the lights are set to come on a specific time and go off at a specific time as you're already heard testimony there's there's time specific times where the lights are going to be controlled to go off so certain persons within the Board of Ed
in the administration will have the control of the lights through a cell phone through a cell phone app with a username and passcode it's the same for the recreation department here in town for the field and in that way it's always the lights are on when somebody's using in the field and they're supposed to be on and they off when they're
supposed to be off does that also track when they're on and off yes it does so if there was a complaint and someone said 8:30 you can go into the system and confirm whether or not they want will be able to print off reports it tells them when the lights were turned on when the
lights were turned off and because of the username of pascard passco who done it okay accountability is a great thing okay lastly we have our architect com back okay raise your you
swear to God affirm testimony about to give truth the whole truth I do please you just sayate your name and spell it for the board brono M SS i n and then if you can just State your qualifications for the board I'm a
licensed architect in the state of New Jersey I've been licensed for the past 27 years uh been doing um Municipal and educational school work for the past 30 years uh we're currently the architect of record for 40 school districts in the State uh and you know we do these types
of projects for all of our districts field for lighting to additions buildings does the board have any questions about his qualifications again I would let you teric so we're here to talk about the light and this is the field so we're
going to kind of just give you a brief overview of how this system was designed and what the intent is in terms of getting lights in place and then Bob is going to come back and talk a little bit about the lighting and how it how it's uh affects the uh the field and everything
else so from a a light pole location there will be four light poles uh located uh on the four quadrants and those light poles that you see me Circle that's outside of the field as Bob had mentioned uh and they will be uh
installed as Bob said using footings after the after the uh the soils are are checked the appropriate foundations will be poured for those footings we do have a slope you're going to see in the next image how that slope uh we're going to use it to our advantage but we do need
to address that in the installation of the footings for the lights and um you'll see how those light fixtures are going to accommodate not only the egress but also prevent light spillage onto the neighboring properties so this is a a cross-section uh from
allot uh being here uh the adjacent house across the way and you can see this significant slope coming down the field would be here I'll zoom in on the field and the proposed lights so you can see the height of the proposed lights they don't uh they don't come above the
tree line uh and they are going to focus the light and the foot candles as you can see from the center image uh it's 50 foot candles at the center of the field it's 50 foot candles at the edges of the field and as it starts to move out the track would be 28t candles uh and then
as we move to the bleachers and the to top of the bleachers you're back down to 7 foot candles so that spillage decreases uh as we move further and further away from the center of the field um so as we get to the lighting calculations Bob's going to come back
and he's going to talk a little bit more about those light the lighting calculations and how they AFF those yes they are 8 okay what we have is the lighting level on the field is s is according to the
illumination engineering Society a Class 2 field it's a maintained average across the field of 50 foot candles and it is a light level that is utilized that can handle everything up to an including Varsity Sports or High School level
lighting now we are not lighting the track for competition track and the reason we're not doing that if you could go over to that right side of the track there the track is feet away from the property line it's very very close to the property line on the right hand side
and uh so therefore we wanted to keep the light away from that portion of the track now there are zeros there along that right side of the track we call let the track Bend or just outside of the dzone those are zero foot candle values
that means that there's less than a half a foot candle of light along that portion of the track now a half a foot candle of light is the minimum amount of light that's needed for security purposes if you're walking somewhere and there's less than a half a full candle of light and there's an object on the
ground in front view you might very well trip over that light so showing just zeros with nothing beyond the decimal point means we have less than a half a foot candle there you want to have a little bit of light there just for security purposes so you could see down on that side of the field there where
the toward the property line if there's anybody down there if there's anything going on down there but it's just the minimal amount of light if you look at the track on the left side you'll notice we have eight nine foot Candles there what we have done is we've added some lighting to the two poles closest to
that bend in the track so that this way there's eest lighting being projected over to where the part The Spectators participants would be entering the field so the sufficient light to the parking lot we also have Lighting in the
bleaches and as you can see this also is an indication that quickly the lighting is is decreasing As you move away from the field the bottom the bottom row of the bleaches you see we're looking at in in the low 20s the teens we have light values as we get to the top we have
sevens fives so there's ample light for people to safely enter and leave the bleachers uh and then um so we have we have that set up now here is the actual spill values okay so first of all we're
going to do the right proper now first thing we're looking at is what's called horizontal foot candles horizontal foot candles is when I take my light meter and I have my face of my meter horizontally so it's horizontal to the
ground this is my light meter okay this is this is the measuring surface of the light meter why I would measure the leveled light so when I hold my meter about 3et above grade horizontally like this that is the standard method of measurement both on the field and off
the field the reason that is the case is because anyone can take a light meter hold it horizontally just like this and get pretty reproducible results no matter who would take that light reading okay so horizontal light readings along
the property line the maximum value is that value down there in the green about the Middle where the track Bend comes closest to the property line and that value is can we zoom in just a little bit 0.10 foot candles what is that 0.1 foot
candles is moonight we're talking about basically Moonlight and horizontal foot candles at the property line and we can leave it at that but we like to take and as you could see the values from that point go down 0.1 then they get down to 04
0302 when you get down to 0302 in order for me to take a measurement I have to actually have a little light on my meter so I can actually read what the meter says that's how low those light light values are okay now we take it a step further on the next slide what we do is we do
vertical foot candles so what we do is we take the meter and now we stand at that point and we aim the meter back at the lights on the field so this is what we're doing is essentially we're reproducing what your eye is going to do your eye is going to be drawn to the brightest light source in the area or
your field of view so what we do is we take the light meter we move it around vertically till we get a highest value and that highest value typically aligns the meter with one of the poles but you're still getting all the light from all the poles measured on your meter we
do that at each point2 and your highest value there is at same place is 0.23 or a little less than a quar of a foot kin now when we generate these values we generate these values without taking into account any foliage so the
tree buffer all the trees that are along that property line that are some that are on the uh School side those that are on the neighbor side we're assuming they don't exist so this way God forbid a storm comes through takes out all the
trees we'll still be able to go out there and measure those exact same values we will not be above those values the values that we're showing here tonight okay now we did a second line spill values and that was on allot
aty these again are the horizontal values first we have 0. there is no light from these lighting these lights on Alat Avenue horizontally let's go
vertical the highest value is 0.0 one there's no light up on Al again that does not take into account that big wonderful giant tree that sits there just above the field or any of that foliage as well so there's no impact to
Alat Avenue whatsoever now just to kind of illustrate this a little bit further this is what we call a luminous intensity map so the different colors show how the actual luminous intensity decreases
when you get to the outer band of that very light green that light green basically you're getting down below to maybe a th000 2,000 candle power Candela that's basically what you get from your porch on the front of your house so
really you can actually see how and beyond that there's absolutely nothing so again not including the foliage this is how well we can really capture and really have the light on the field and away from the ad Jo properties and then I have a couple
pictures just to illustrate this this is Franklin Field in horor New Jersey I'm standing this is a baseball field but I bring this picture because I'm standing on the baseball field and I want to illustrate you see how the actual shielding of the fixtures cuts out the actual glare you're not seeing hardly
any of the lighting fixture any of The Light Within the lighting fixture and actually you can see if if you go down the pole just above the fence you can actually see the ball trackers sitting there on these poles because this is baseball there's little ball trackers you can't see them either because
they're aimed upward so you're not viewing the light source in the ball Cher either that's one example this is Central Regional High School in Bayville this is a a picture looking down from above so you can see how quickly the lighting uh diminishes as you go away
from the field it's very concentrated very controlled and then the last one I have here is p County v b and you can again see how the lighting is controlled around the field and behind those trees there's a row of
homes those are backyards just those trees are just beyond those trees is backyards of homes we've had absolutely no complaints from no Lighting on those homes whatsoever so as as you heard in the previous testimony this is a technology that's proven and it is
effective in um residential areas where we really have to control the light when the lighting is installed we come out we make sure that these values which we have testified to today before this board are all met or better than what
they are if not we go out we do fine-tuning we can adjust the lights to make sure that everything you see and you've heard me talk to today is provided and that's the end and that concludes Our Testimony so
if we wanted any numbers of questions for the witnesses what is the order of magnitude of the existing uh that I don't know normally with normally when when you have crank up lights normally what you have is you
have a very bright spot underneath the crank up lights and then it just diminishes as it goes away I'm sorry I'll just stand up let go back stand my ex FR here basically with a crank up light you're pointing the crank up light straight across the field
because it's the only way you can get the light cuz they're so short they're only 30ft bolts so you're projecting light straight across the field when I've gone on fields I have not been on this field with the crank up lights but typically what I see is we get very high light levels immediately in front of those lights and it diminishes very
quickly as it goes across and the problem also with that is what you're doing is you're you don't have any kind of shielding because if you put shielding you're not getting lights in the middle you see the light source it you really see the light source because it's basically aim straight across yeah I think the problem
is producing a a product that you can't see the light source that's that's what you need I mean that's that's the key that's always been the way we tried to develop as you saw in that Evolution we're trying to minimize the view of what are the glare
producing portions of that lighting fixture before it was actually the the reflector itself now it's just that's why we talk the the flight Source up and in with the shield so that we can get that out of you because that's that's
typically the complaint you see that big bright glow in the sky and that's exactly the point that's what you need to do I had a question that may be irrelevant if you are guaranteeing you're not exceeding the um the values
that you produced here when was the study done I assume all of the readings were taken on the same night no these are these are not projected these are projected and that's that's why I state that okay we do come afterwards and we do make sure that part
of part of our commitment to our customers is that we come out the fact and verify Al also part of that guarantee is we guarantee for 25 years not only the light levels will stay consistent on the field but also the spill levels will stay with they on and
if they change and if they change for some reason or another and I have been asked to go out to check because someone thought something had change and nine out of 10 times it hasn't changed one time it got dark in the corner of the field but I had to point out to them
that they forgot to BR the tree and the tree was blocking okay but we do go out we verify we guarantee for 25 years there should be no change and that's why we can do this because we're assuming 's no trees or anything there so even if
all the trees were gone we could still go out and could still be and still confront those we don't rely on that for anything but don't you have to know the existing light level because if you go out the measure it's going to include the existing light what we you're talking about you're
talking about the ambient light that's a good point what we do is we go out and we'll take a light reading with the lights on on the field we'll turn the field lights off and I'll take another set of readings and I'll subtract out the ambient light readings from the
field lighting readings and then we get the true field lighting readings a very good point anything else that I can oh I think that ensures that you've matched your specs but from the standpoint of and
this is 50y but from the standpoint of an observer they would see the aggregate they would see the endian Plus lighting but if there was some there shouldn't be any issue but yeah confirming that your system matches
its FS that's correct it's n not the gross check Qui question about the um upside down light does that activate when there's Motion in the sky or something within the server oh that's it's on the
controls we're all think about drugs well I guess some of the sports wouldn't necessarily need that that's correct what we do is we do put the ball trackers on their own zone so if it is not needed for a particular sport they do not have to turn
them it's been most it's been our experience though however that people typically don't even know whether on or not on because of the way optimizing LEDs these last 100,000 Plus hours yeah and you keep local stair on the
lights right I mean you don't have to send oh no we have we have a quick response if there's a problem we take care of that that's why they're all manufactured right here in the United States they're not like some of these pictures that manufactured in China that they try to install can't get bars is
there grounding like lightning type yes there is okay the the pre-cast concrete base that we showed in the in the picture what it has is what's called integral grounding system there's a steel plate on the top of that prast base and then it IT wires through the um
the rebar cables that go through that pre-cast concrete base and goes down into the ground and it dissipates that way and that's steel plate on top of the pre-cast concrete Bas is in contact with the steel pole and grounds steel pole steel pole also in the enclosure at 10
ft above great has an equipment ground as well and that is also grounded back to uh throughout the electrical system so it's grounded for lightning and it's grounded electric do you need to care about EMP type of aost do I mean it's grounded
I know but do you have to worry you don't answer here but why hav't encountered anything that has has posed a problem to that I don't know it's just a matter of whether the LEDs are sensitive to an EMP pulse or not there there as you know
electronically you can buy those EMP preventers um which is basically just absorb the momentary shock I mean I know we do have we do have a pretty elaborate surge protection system that does protect the drivers on the PO because
they as you know if you have an LED Li fixture the fixture itself is robust it's the driver that's the delicate part and so we do have uh pretty pretty complex search protection for that drive for the drivers that are on the pole to help not have any problems from sech
from searches is at the top of the pole is there actually any kind of a Spire there like lightning no it's just it's just the top of the pole that's correct yeah okay there's a cap on the top see the picture there it is
it's a cap that has its own little uh little leash on it so it can never get lost okay so um now we can ask if there any go ahead just have one if I may uh Mr chairman the board's done the the uh
how often you said there's in eff of post installation Life water for lack of better term you do mitigation or if necessary is that a one time or is that you mentioned I think it's 25 year yes warranty I as I indicated um if the
owner notices or feels that they think that something doesn't look right maybe it's dark in a corner or something along that along that pathway like I said they the one our One customer said it got dark in the corner so we went out and we
redid the lighting test and in redoing the lighting test that's when we could see that it was the tree that was blocking the so you do do you do one at a certain point and then it's on request on request theref what at what point do you do that first order immediately
after installation soon as the lights are commissioned and operational as soon as I can get there okay so I mean certainly my experience in applications for development it's not uncommon to have a post installation light what it as a condition approval here might be a
recommendation but in Ence you're saying part of the warrant it's not only one time it's also therea on neveress we always have a recommendation nothing further than so if there are any questions for these
Witnesses not commentary but questions from the public you can come down and ask your questions of either of the three Witnesses you don't have to be sworn in everybody comes up to me like this but your name and address and then
please ask your questions of so Rob Wilson 48 cour l two positives so love the LED that's great um low energy stuff really hear
that and love the the low light pollution profile so great great to see [Music] that um one is these are tall narrow structures I didn't I heard you talk
about electricity didn't hear you talk about earthquake which we've had a few is there any kind of that's a good question I'll just stay see see here within the international building code which is the state code State Building Code there are certain
requirements for different areas for seismic calculations So based upon the area our structural will will include each one of them we have a risk factor there's an exposure there's a wind speed that we have to match and also there is
a seismic constant that we have to meet now obviously if we get a big earthquake just you know you get something out of the ordinary but for the most part all of the requirements that are part of the international building code which is a state adopting code we do meet all of
those all of those requirements and part of that is a seic requirement that's correct okay have you lost a PO has one come down well I not from not from that uh I'll say this when Hurricane Sandy came through a number of years ago we
had two poles that fell down one pole fell down because an 80-year-old oak tree said I'm taking you down and it was gone the other one came down because an owner attached netting to the pole and we had told them not to attach netting
to the pole so when the wind came it caught the net it was like a big sail and it took it P down but other than that to my knowledge there have been in 25 years there have been no other B failures here in New Jersey or Delaware Pennsylvania Northeast where I
were one more question the how much does a bul cost well we don't have both how much is a fixt they're different fixtures each one each one is different it's a couple thousand hi I'm Aaron duck 51 crusty
Drive in Burnville I just had a question and St it looks like a perfect product um n architect slide uh there were there was like a field level view with the existing um Lighting in the middle and
the proposed Lighting on the two corners no kind you know kind your standing on the field yeah um yeah yeah I'll say yeah I'm sorry that one right right um I I will confess my ignorance um um to you
know the existing conditions it are those is that Landscaping accurate are there are those trees that look like they're there there that's based on what's actually there that's based on what's there true and the other direction you're just looking towards the school or par yes that would be par
thank you and I guess the other you know question on the slide all the you know benefits the warranty um the coverage does the manufacturer or the musco offer any type of um Insurance
defense identity agreement or planes injury planes based on like sports injuries and somebody Falls a bleach or someone trips on something that's directly related to
those lights is that something that's within the contract no we wouldn't have the contract typically and only would carry that type of insurance for themselves thank you any other questions 6 thank you for
the Avenue and um sorry could you speak up and I didn't sorry Pa s 60 s is in s t is in Tim Superior
there's a space capital O and NC J okay thank you thank you um during the presentation that the school board gave and the meetings that were held there was reference to the use
of 70 foot poles rather than 80 I'm wondering if you can comment on that there doesn't seem to be a need for 8 polls um secondly you mentioned with respect
to Ingress and egress increasing the candle power if you know the high school complex you know that there's at least a dozen or more lights on the building facing the access to the field you also
know that there are three massive spotlights on the front of the high school building that are illuminated all night long and provide plenty of light into the neighborhood as well as the parking by there's no need to increase
handle power at that access area because you have ambient lighting as well as the lighting on the screen and I would ask that you take that into consideration when you're doing your specs okay because you know the facility there's
two much Lighting in the building and the school board has said was going to address it at some point in time would just as a point is it possible that this lighting might give the board more flexibility the school
board more flexibility of a liting that you're talking about which is you know in the lot and on the building walls they be able to potentially some of that that's a great point
the facility should have apparently the board of education has said that their facilities committee is going to do a study of the over I think there are over 40 lights on the buildings it's lit up like an
airport and your point is well taken you you may be able to take off a dozen lights that are now on the old gym the new gym side that faces because they don't have to read correct if I may just say though the only problem with that is the fact that
only at times that that view would be lit would those lights be on may be lit so that the ESS is lit that may be the reason they have those lights on and if you're lighting the ESS they don't need to light the ESS you
know it's a lot something that needs to be looked at and I think the the you're going to you need to light this facility 24 hours a day for both security reasons is I think not correct
um it needs to be lit appropriately for security it's right now I don't want to interrup so um the lights for the field are those also able to be used for building lighting the same style same
pixture probably not because those the the lighting that we have produces a lot more light than you would on a typical Building light fixture but there are similar light fixtures for exterior for the building
that are low throw lights they don't they don't do what honestly I drive by there often do going home um is that it shoots straight out so it may be a way to look at
that shade them similar to what your design does doesn't SP Beyond but I would say not to get off track we're just here about the field about well the point was we don't want them to I would say leaving the
recommendation in place that it lights the erress and that as opposed to saying no no no we should we should not do that we should rely on other lighting to light the erress you should be you should follow your current plan and then the board can do their own review
and then obviously it can be adjusted however you want because it's flexible so if you wanted to turn it down at a later date you can do that but for now there's an opportunity that because they're lighting the ESS when
the ESS is being used There's an opportunity so Mr chairman I apologize but I missed part of the testimony I was UN get here at 7:30 and there was a comment made during one of the presentations um that
reference hours of use and I'm wondering if someone can just confirm what state do have testimon sure uh the policy permits the use through 8:00 at night up until 8:00
at night and then there are uh additional nights uh for the duration of the Year where we're able to use that until 10:00 you said 20 I think there was a limit of 20 what they refer to as stretch nights thank
you and then lastly I know that the school board will um look at this issue but mus is a fine company a 25e guarantee we just have to make sure we know what we're going to do
if musco is no longer uh available I can sh I can share that I can share about that um what musco does is they have put they have a special fund where they put monies aside on each project to
take care of any issues that will come about Afters and so that money is there specifically for that for that and that it's in in some type of EST account they cannot to touch for anything except for these type because we started with 10e
warranties by 20 years ago we've had 25 year warranties around we we have our first 25 year warranties are basically coming up down but there are in a special fund there are the funds that are put in there to ensure that every warranty unlike other companies that go
out and then the left people left without warranty there are special funds that are put into place specifically no matter what happens to mus that the warranties can be fulfill yeah thank you for that board I'm sure'll address it
ask a question chairman based on that response is that separate funds project School location Etc as opposed to one general fund for all all customers the specific
amounts taken for each project and our for side okay so we won't have to compete with the Red Bulls to get they're very fast any more any more questions so now if there are any
comments the public you can come down and make a comment um you will be sworn um making those comments on down if you have any comments okay no
comments so Ste um should [Music] summarize foration well I don't feel like I have a lot to a whole lot to say I think our our experts and our superintendent summed it up for you like uh they
presented this is a project for four 80 foot light poles um they're utilizing the best technology on the market to try and reduce any potential Nuance the neighbors um with regard to this project we're looking for the Ford to uh provide
a resolution that says um they've reviewed it it's consistent with the master plan and the board is also free to make any recommendations that I think some have been noted here already um and you know that is that is what we're we're asking for uh it's the
intent of the project is to not increase the student body increase the intensification of the field it's really to get a better quality use of the field and a better experience for the students using the field and The Spectators visiting question Council because
correct me if I'm wrong but to some extent the determination made by the board with respect to the project I'll be it recommendatory is a if I'm wrong a master plan consistency type RW which is not a
common order um so given that would you have any position with respect to or intention with respect to the consistency with the man plan and if so would you share that with the board this is school and
educational uses are are a permitted conditional use in both zones at the school is in uh if you're not aware this property is actually split zoned it's in two separate zones and it's a permitted use in in both zones and so this is a an accessory
ancillary use to an educational fac I think everyone can agree that um student Athletics are part of the educational experience in New Jersey we're one of the few remaining states that require physical education as part of our curriculums um Sports enhanced the
educational experience for students therefore our Fields go hand inand with the education experience and are part of the educational facilities as a whole I'll just try and end John and I talked about this application earlier
today assum it maintains and upgrades imunity resources promotes desirable visual environment improves Community facilities encourages Technologies
minimizes light pollution Etc all of which might be consistent if not furthering objectives and purposes of our me plan p yes I I would agree with those statements I think we presented the testimony tonight that it we're making
efficient use of the facilities we have uh with without trying with with still trying to be a good neighbor and not be a nuisance to the communities I got one comment that I would like to be a recommendation is and
that is um first validate whether the car meetings whether there was testimony in your meetings about the P being 70 ft and then just revisit whether it's possible to achieve the same well
appropriate specifications of like at a lower he than 80 ft just review the steps that's and and if if it was never said 7 that's said just I can say that the
meeting that I was at I did not say 70 ft I did say 80 ft you did okay somebody brought up the fact of well if the poles were up on Hillside they could be 70 be the problem is the further you move away from the field number one you can't install the poles on a hillside it's not
full bark that's where the word 70 might have come into play yeah that might have been come into play okay as far as you're concerned it's been it's been 80 I withdraw my recommendation um any um recommendations
from at all okay then I would suggest the motion uh Second and roll call resolution drafting purposes to memorialize uh the determination that presumably
board finds it not inconsistent with the N plan for reasons of course stated by applicants Council board planner and board Philadelphia planner perhaps as well here at board attorney uh the it was a joke
on and the have to explain it it's resolution did you say we also need toori yeah I'll memorialize it with resolution that for the next meeting this is just yeah but this is just a motion to find that the project
is not inconsistent with the master plan and whatever recommendations are made specific recommendation it'll be a shorter resolution for you and I I make the motion that as the I presented tonight um and submitted in
the application that [Music] theist is not inconsistent yes M gner yes m g yes Mr gr yes Mr Morrison yes Mr Sao yes m
yes Mr Bal yes and thank you not about the resolution and I apologize you said that the lack of night liing affected girl da Spirits in
particular so I hope as you put your new schedule in with appropriate liting that you rethink the lack of priority timing for baby girl Sports because they have schoolwork they have activities and it's
really hard to get into your homework get into your sports when you have a long Lifetime and that's just struck me as something that shouldn't even be on shouldn't even be an issue that they're not getting the same priority timing
iiz but I needed to make that comment if you would look at that you R do it so Federal legislation 40 years ago [Music] thank you everyone legislation all
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and would it be so meeting available okay second reservation open table
so no no pending reviews uh have question visitors any questions about so we are going to um head into
executive session which the equinet I'm sorry equinet no that's going to be part of the executive okay so that is why it's on for when we get back Denise are we yes are we going into
the other room or are we staying here I think we're here being rescheduled forway 27 weeks our next meeting to make sure that we have an thing here good
there