WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=ltpRXzkeFIY Part: 1 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:44.800 Yes. >> All right, we're back on the record. Council for the applicant wants to decide on a carry date first. >> Yeah, I agree. So, this application will be 2 00:00:44.800 --> 00:01:03.920 carried. The 17th is our next August 17th is our next meeting, right, Denise? >> Yeah. Yeah. And we don't have anything scheduled. We have two applications in the works. >> Yes. >> Yeah. 3 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:25.040 >> August 17th. >> August 17th is the next meeting. Um and then after that >> September, >> I think it's the 22nd. 4 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:54.560 >> I got it. says 10. >> That's a lie. >> 17th. It is the 10th. >> It is the 10th. >> Yeah. >> Okay. We changed it after trying to go in one meeting in the summer months 5 00:01:54.560 --> 00:02:12.080 trying to manage the distance between meetings. >> So it's not the 17th, it's 10th. >> August 10th is August 10th. >> Check the website too. >> Yeah, please. Because the 10th would be 6 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:36.720 a council meeting. >> Well, Who's on first? >> Okay. >> Well, this changes then. >> Yeah. I'm driving back from Watkins to Glenn that. 7 00:02:36.720 --> 00:03:00.200 >> So, is it the 10th to the 17th for us? Oh my. >> Oh. Oh jeez. We're 17. You're dead, >> right? >> Yeah. Let me just switch to 17. >> So it's double. 8 00:03:00.239 --> 00:03:23.040 >> We have to go back to the notice to see what we notice. Now hold on. >> See what problems you cause. [laughter] We would have just scooted by with nothing. [laughter] >> Nobody would have known. >> Well, David on the official like this 9 00:03:23.040 --> 00:03:39.040 what we got handed out. So it was blue was the 17th. But >> yeah, that's what I had. >> But if the council just moved to the 17th, that's bad anyway cuz they're going to be in the chamber. They'll bounce us. 10 00:03:39.040 --> 00:04:00.442 >> Hold on. Why? Why do we get bounced? >> Well, because because >> just because they think we suck. I don't know. >> They're They're still waiting for that annual report. [laughter] 11 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:23.680 >> It's only July. >> I do read it. Excellent. Well, well composed. >> Yeah, >> we have a lawyer going. >> Yeah, >> David, I'm going to Well, either way, 12 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:38.000 uh, I'm going to what I'm going to have to do is I have to confirm what was published in the newspaper. >> I'm sure the 17th was published. No, for us >> it it I'm thinking it looked like was 13 00:04:38.000 --> 00:05:01.240 >> Yeah, that was the calendar we put you put out back in January. >> That's why Mark is looking at that piece of paper. I threw it away. I just write everything. I just stick everything in my calendar. My you know >> Oh, agenda. >> Yeah, just your agenda. Yes. 14 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:27.280 Okay. So again, >> but the council did move their meeting to the 17. Yeah, we noticed. >> So then we're in here, I guess. >> Right. >> Yeah. Okay. >> We have a seven. 15 00:05:27.280 --> 00:05:45.160 >> What about Pardon me. >> No, >> no, >> we have the 17th. We can >> Yeah, I know we have the 17th. Um, if the council just scheduled for the 17th 16 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:16.000 set in stone. >> It's not set in stone for us. We can change the dates. We can also add a meeting if we wanted to. >> Yes. >> Yeah. It's not changed on the website 17 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:40.240 yet. So, did Anthony mention it to you? Okay. Cuz he would have to notice for it, too. >> Okay. >> Well, either way, you and I discussed that. 18 00:06:40.240 --> 00:07:01.960 >> Um, and in the meantime, >> so we only have one meeting in September. It's actually I think on the 22nd. >> Yes. [laughter] >> Yeah, that one's a tooth because Yam Kapour's on Monday. 19 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:23.840 >> Take a copy of Monday. >> Um, and what I'll add to that is on the 22nd I'm on a boat. I'm on vacation. >> Don't worry. Got you. [laughter] >> I'm on vacation that week. >> No Zoom. 20 00:07:23.840 --> 00:07:46.800 >> No Zoom. >> No, I'm going. It'll be out in the Pacific. >> Okay. >> I'll be out in the Pacific hanging out with car buds. actually hanging out with my wife, my daughter, and her boyfriend. But um 21 00:07:46.800 --> 00:08:05.039 >> well, by that time we should have ample alternates. We won't have any >> Yeah. Right. >> and quorum issues. So good. >> Yeah. >> Um >> yeah, I'm calling. >> Well, this would be hard with the 22 00:08:05.039 --> 00:08:26.160 applicant. We we would have to say we can carry to this date and if that date doesn't work it would have to be this date. I don't know can we do that Lou? >> But you have to have a meeting. >> Yeah. >> So >> you have to have a meeting to announce to say it's going to be the next date. 23 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:43.760 >> Well we >> that's the problem. >> Well wait >> what's happened there? There's a recent case which I uh where a meeting was cancelled and um 24 00:08:43.760 --> 00:08:58.800 uh the board secretary did whatever she could to let the public know. They put a notice on the on the uh on the uh on the website notice on the door and the court and there was an appeal about lack of not and the court said that was that was good. What that board secretary did was 25 00:08:58.800 --> 00:09:15.040 good. from carry to the 17th and we can't have it then um you do your do the best you can put it on the website. >> Well, no, no, that's not what I'm proposing. What I'm proposing is staying stay for the 17. 26 00:09:15.040 --> 00:09:30.399 >> Yeah. >> But if the stream is not going to be available there back then we'll have it pick 10 for example then it'll be unpended. So that it's already carried and then as far as cancelling the meeting, we'll 27 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:47.600 have advanced notice. I would know that in the next couple days. >> So instead of carrying to one date, it would be carrying it to this date unless >> if then statement >> like a later date. I think we could do this. I don't know. >> Yeah. Not an earlier date. The 17th and 28 00:09:47.600 --> 00:10:04.480 Oh, maybe the 10th just >> the may pass. >> Well, uh the next one. >> No, we just have we we set up a special meeting >> unless >> Yeah. So, 29 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:20.320 >> that's head setting in the right direction, but it's if it should work. I mean, >> no, let's let's carry to the 17th and if the seven if the room isn't available, then we'll carry to the 24th. The council 30 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:37.200 can't have both dates. >> We can get a forum. Yeah, >> let's just work. >> I mean, I I don't know what else to do. Either the 24th or the 31st. Well, 30 Oh, 3. No, 31 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:53.440 >> that's a sucky day. >> We'll do the 17th for now and see how it plays out. >> Yeah. So, >> all right. So, we're just going to do the 17th. >> See 17th and if the room's not available, >> we'll let you know. then the 24th. 32 00:10:53.440 --> 00:11:17.200 >> Okay. >> That does that make sense for you? >> Yeah. We'll just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, I I don't want you to lose notice either. >> Too many people to mail >> the date. Yeah. Just give notice. 33 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:33.360 >> No, I'll wait in September. >> Yeah. We'll know in the next day or two. >> Okay. information if the 17 I'll then discuss it with the chairman and then >> we'll advertise that there's a meeting on the 24th. 34 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:49.040 >> Yeah, >> we have to advertise that. Right. >> Right. >> But I just wanted them to be covered in case the 17th is canceled and we didn't say if not the 17th and >> yeah that's 35 00:11:49.040 --> 00:12:09.279 >> absolutely it's a pain in the butt to put out notices. >> We're not going to get >> Okay. All right. >> Is that it? >> Yeah. So for tonight, this application will be carried until August 17th if the 36 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:37.639 room is available. If the council steals the room, it will be on August 24th. Same time, same channel. >> Notice required. >> I'm assuming you're still waving time limits. Put back 37 00:12:37.760 --> 00:13:28.880 away. >> It'll be a quick I'll explain what's going I said a lot of money. >> Yeah. >> Oh didn't mean it. [laughter] Okay. All right. 38 00:13:28.880 --> 00:14:06.959 So, let's move on to paying of the bill. >> Paying the bills. Moved and seconded. Ed moved. Jeff second. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Bills are paid. Um the next agenda 39 00:14:06.959 --> 00:14:25.959 item is the annual report. Uh Denise put it out there on the website. They're not pending. >> Oh, well the pending applications. They're pending and they're under review. >> That's it. Does our reviewer have anything to say? 40 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:53.600 >> No, no. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, we're pending applications. Blue is asking about the pending application. >> Okay. So, you're studying them. >> Okay. >> [laughter] >> just got those plants. 41 00:14:53.600 --> 00:15:09.199 >> Take care. >> Good night, Jake. Okay. Um, any idea how long the review will take? >> Okay. So, they'll be ready before the 17th, too. All right. We'll figure out 42 00:15:09.199 --> 00:15:26.480 what we're doing. You can hear them. Uh, [laughter] >> so now we get to the review and adoption of the annual report. Um, Tom wrote the report and I reviewed it and I liked it. I 43 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:44.000 found one basically typo in it and other than that it was spot on. So, um, has everybody else reviewed it? >> I have. I don't agree with you. the three items. 44 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:57.120 Oh, the council recommendations >> recommend recommendation for the council I thought accurately reflected what we had discussed all year in terms of uh well the new one was a contractor's 45 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:14.240 yard which that came up meeting >> uh but but the deck I think is is >> worthy of of review and the garages is worthy of review as well. 46 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:29.120 Whether they act upon it or do anything with it, those are two good ones. >> Who knows? They construct it. >> Specificity to those. >> Yeah, >> really all three of them. It's just adding specificity. And thank you to uh Allison for giving us some verb 47 00:16:29.120 --> 00:17:02.720 contractor stuff. Okay. accessory. >> I don't recall us. >> Well, I only bring it up because I thought that you had been getting a number of applications that were having 48 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:19.480 to come vote for you when they if they were permitted in certain zones. Yeah, that is not ADU related, but that is a continuation of use for a multi- 49 00:17:19.679 --> 00:17:34.799 no it's like the accessory we had a couple I guess maybe two months ago >> where somebody was is expanding their carriage house to basically a 3,000 foot 50 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:51.039 house 3,000 >> and the the way the ordinance is written they're limited to 1500 ft. They're only for family members. You can't rent them. Um and you know, so this came before us because of that. And quite frankly, I think it's appropriate for it to come before us. 51 00:17:51.039 --> 00:18:06.320 >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Um I I think I think that somebody should look at that. It shouldn't be just cart blanch. You can build another 3,000 5,000t house on your property. You may have 10 acres in the in the 5 acre 52 00:18:06.320 --> 00:18:22.320 zone. So you can have two properties on it. If you have 20 acres in the 10acre zone, you can have two houses on it. It's an accessory dwelling unit. Um, but you know, they're you're limited to 1500 ft². >> Yeah. >> And I, you know, they they've come up a 53 00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:38.480 number of times before the board. I remember there was one up above me. Uh, Dick Schlott had one on his property. I don't know if [clears throat] anybody's else was around for that application. Um, and he wanted to basically rebuild it because it was in a disastrous condition. 54 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:55.720 And it was it was an old stone carriage house, but yeah, the one that came up a couple months ago, there's been others. >> Yeah. >> And I think that it's appropriate for them to come before the board. >> Yeah. >> Somebody should be looking at it basically. 55 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:13.919 >> And and by the way, it lets us reinforce with the land owner that they're not for rentals. So, um, it it gets us in front of them, they're in front of us, and we can have that conversation with them. So, they know that, you know, they're not 56 00:19:13.919 --> 00:19:29.760 supposed to rent it to the local police officer that wants space in town. [clears throat] >> Well, lots it in most cases, it's not visible. So, you can't like physically visible by 57 00:19:29.760 --> 00:19:45.200 you can't see it. I might as a zoning officer for example if review an application like that comes to just approving the zone level when you a board application 58 00:19:45.200 --> 00:20:02.960 requires a lot more information than typical zoning. >> Yeah. And it gets us it gets us to reinforce the conditions that the land owners need to maintain. At any rate, um any any other comments 59 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:19.280 on the annual report? The rest of it was pretty much um tabulations, attendance, uh describing all of the cases that were that we either heard or received during 60 00:20:19.280 --> 00:20:34.799 last year. Mhm. >> Uh some of them were 24 cases that we finished up in 25 25 cases and then uh received in 25 but will hear in 26 is how it's phrased 61 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:51.120 even though at this point we've already heard of them. >> H >> except this one going to say this one was a 25. >> Yeah, this was 25 application. As >> a matter of fact, it was well didn't go to the planning board. they submitted it as a planning 62 00:20:51.120 --> 00:21:09.919 application. >> Anyway, so that's what's in the annual report. >> Um, anybody have any other comments on it? >> Uh, no. But I'll make a motion to approve the annual report with that typo correction that you have briefly 63 00:21:09.919 --> 00:21:31.039 mentioned. >> Yeah, you never thought because I fixed it. >> Then I'll just make a motion to approve it. [laughter] Um, roll call. >> Mr. Green, >> yes. >> Mr. Mello, >> yes. 64 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:46.559 >> Mr. McDow, >> yes. >> And Mr. Cier, >> yes. >> And you say thank you to Tom. >> At one point, like, so he may be elected to the cap, which means he'd have to lose his seat, but can we give him like a meritous status? So he just does the 65 00:21:46.559 --> 00:22:13.760 annual >> listen to every case. >> Ed listen to every case to write it properly. >> No >> non voting non-member member. who um besides he's uh since he's on the council he can't 66 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:32.679 >> well not yet but maybe >> he will be there's nobody running against him there was a guy right there that's running against him >> yeah they did >> they did write >> don't go anywhere yet >> okay 67 00:22:33.360 --> 00:22:51.600 >> yep >> two people learning now there is before there was zero. >> Okay. >> All right. Um I know Lou wanted a little bit 68 00:22:51.600 --> 00:23:10.720 to discuss our favorite. >> Um this won't be won't be there's six. If you could take one and pass it around. Is this public session worth? >> No, it's private. Okay. >> It's it's private. Do we need to go into executive? >> Yes. Yes. I think so. 69 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:30.400 >> Hopefully there's >> So I will >> should be two extra there on the back side. >> Whereas NJSA 10 col4-12 the open public meetings act permits the exclusion of the public from a meeting 70 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:48.480 in certain circumstances. And whereas this public body is of the opinion that such circumstances presently exist. Now therefore be it resolved by the board of adjustment of the burough of Bernville County Somerset state of New Jersey as follows. One, the public shall be excluded from the discussion of the hearing after specified subject matters. 71 00:23:48.480 --> 00:24:04.640 Two, the general nature of the subject matter is to be discussed is as follows. Which box? >> Uh litigation. Pending litigation. >> Oh, pending litigation. That sucks. Three. It is anticipated that the unstated subject matters discussed in 72 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:19.679 close session may be disclosed to the public upon determination of the board that the public interest will no longer be served by such confidentiality and four this resolution shall take effect immediately. I need it moved and seconded. >> I'll make a motion. 73 00:24:19.679 --> 00:24:39.120 >> Roll call, please. knowing that chicks do voice amendment. >> Okay, we'll do voice vote. >> All I >> I >> opposed. >> All right, we're in executive session. 74 00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:42.640 >> All right. shut the door.