for e it's turned off wait I'm doing well little sleepy tonight yeah yeah tiing in up itself yeah how you
doing have that little sign in okay yeah our intern name was name are we yeah we're
ready winding down so might as well keep the years right years call hey I left you in good hands good income coming in good evening I'd like to call to order the Code Compliance board meeting
of the village of biscane Park tonight is Wednesday February 12th time is 6:01 p.m. could you call the role please Janny Anderson here Dell Benton Rola Barto
Judy hammerberg Michael lard here Ashley and ber Green Village staff Daren C Grant rafhael guz Vanessa Cherry here welcome again I just I was remiss the last meeting when you were here and
not explaining although alternates by our code can't vote unless needed for a quum you can participate in the conversation you can ask questions and you are certainly welcome please join in
and thank you again good evening everyone this is a meeting of the village of biscane Park Code Compliance board the board is authorized pursuant to chapter 14 of The Villages Land Development code to ensure compliance with The Village's code of ordinances the members of the board are
citizens and residents of the village of biscane Park we volunteer our time and are not paid for our services the purpose of each hearing is to give any alleged violators the opportunity to contest the decision of the code compliance officer which resulted in the issuance of a notice of violation and to
determine whether a violation of The Villages code has occurred or is occurring we are not authorized to dismiss violations based on hardships ignorance or the fact that others may be guilty of the same violation these hearings are conducted in a quasi
judicial manner are responsibilities to act much like a judge in a court and that is to hear cases presented by The Village's Code Compliance officers and to hear contradictory arguments presented by the alleged violators we are not authorized to change the code The Village commission is solely
authorized to enact or revise codes conversely neither the commission nor the village manager have the authority to over rule the findings of the board pursuant to chapter 162 Florida Statutes orders of the board can only be appealed to the Circuit Court of Miami date County we have the authority to assess
and order the payment of civil penalties to issue orders having the force of law to command whatever steps are necessary to bring a violation into compliance and to assess administrative costs in order to make a finding upholding The Code Compliance officer's decision we must
find that there is substantial competent evidence that the name violator was responsible for a violation of the relevant section of the code as charged all documentary evidence presented by the parties must be submitted for placement in the hearing file no documentary evidence will be
considered unless the alleged violator or code compliance officer submits a copy for the hearing file each party shall have the right to call and examine witnesses to introduce exhibits to cross-examine opposing Witnesses on any matter relevant to the issues even though that matter was not covered in
the direct examination to impeach any Witnesses regardless of which party first called them to testify and to rebut evidence against them if you intend to address the board and haven't signed in please do so and at this time anyone wishing to address the board
please stand raise your right hand so you may be sworn in and you are reminded this board is a quagi Judicial board and giving false testimony can be penalized CL would you administer the please stand up
please raise your right hand do you swear or affirm that the testimony you about to give would be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth we're ready for the first case oh I'm sorry most important additions deletions
changes or withdrawals Dorian Grant code compliance manager for the Code Compliance Department we have a change to make a correction actually um on 7.1 the address should have read in the
affidavit posting 905 instead of 9 it was 915 we put it the street address is 905 105 correct in the Affidavit of posting I did notice well maybe when we get to the case there was a case that I
noticed that on the notice to appear the set um description was not in agreement to what notice of violation you have the item number right now we do that when we get there yeah can we do when we get there then we get
there okay the other notable correction or change we would like to make would be on 7.3 the section um has a slight discrepancy which um was
not the fault of Staff the ordinance hasn't been updated in Munich code um section 19.11 um of the ordinance will be updated we just received an email from
the village attorney saying that the clerk will have to certify the most recent ordinance so until uh we get that certification I would like to ask that this particular discussion is moved to the next hearing March
12th the case has complied however there was a discrepancy in the section 7.3 so you just want to roll that to the next meeting to the next meeting 73 till
March I'm sorry continuance of 73 Contin correct on the additions for the property at 720 Northeast 1710 Street there are six cases that were to come for um settlement agreement
however the respondent um was not ready so we are asking to resend that addition it may come on the next hearing but until we receive um a request a foral request from them there's no point in
putting it back on correct until all the required paperwork is done it just that's correct through all the postings and everything else okay we ask the board to resend this [Music]
addition a motion no just the first case we'll call on the agenda is item 7.4 7.4 it's for the address located at 10831 Northeast 10th Avenue the case
number is cc2 24-120 property owner Maria Laura la there's a request for a continuance they were found to be in violation of chapter 5.6 of street parking for their driveway um they in the process of
applying for a permit so they are asking um for the board to continue this case to February 28 to allow them time to apply for the permit where where is the proper owner in the permit process yes that's correct she did come to Village Hall and she did
make the request she got all the paperwork and she's in the process of apply questions from the board no I do see where that they she had um corresponded back in she previously and they asking for an extension in
January so essentially we're tabling till March's meeting that's correct I don't have a problem um I I'd make a motion in case number case
number CC 24-120 the property owner has asked for a continuance this case to be continued to March's meeting to allow her to finish their permitting process second all in favor I any opposed motion passes
5 Z thank you thank you so much you welcome the next case is under 6.6 [Music] 6.6 the address is 11320 Northeast 11th
Place case number c c-24 0122 for J andb Management Associates LLC through their in care of their registered agent Louie Marie yes this
this case we are bringing this case before the board for an intent to lean the $500 that was ordered by the board has not been paid an Affidavit of compli non-compliance has been filed respondent is
present okay um it was the contractor one moment ma'am One Moment The Board needs to ask your questions we heard this didn't we like this and the contractor was the guy that said he didn't know he takes responsibility and
all that that's correct and you assisted $500 in fines right okay right still there is still the B basic fine and the um administrative costs that need to be paid and he CED to
it when he was here the last time so he said that he's responsible and and we we made the ruling and it's just basically a debt collection now that's correct this this we we were bringing the case for an intent toine but uh the property owner has shown up
and maybe would like to address the board okay no I don't I really don't know may if you could your name and your relation proper my name is mie Lewis I am the owner of the property under the jnb management associate
LLC uh when this happened I wasn't here and I saw the compliance officer one time I was at the property is the one who present me with the paperwork and and then I give it to the contractor because that was one of his
uh employes who came early I don't have I don't have no idea about the time that they're supposed to work I think it was in December 25th instead of coming at 11:00 that's the time 11 to5 for that
day it was December 25th so the the employee usually they come at at 9:00 9 to 6 so I guess they came early uh the compliance officer told me it was a policeman who was passing by and some people working and he reported
to the city so I told the contractor and I know they had a meeting I gave gave him the paper I know he came in that meeting so I thought he paid or whatever he had fixed the problem and I received the paperwork that I have a meeting today so that's why I'm here we we had a
hearing he said that you know he didn't even know that you know wasn't supposed to work he apologized he said he was responsible and the assessment was made and and I I don't know if he communicated with you or not but the bottom line is is that what we're here
for today is essentially just to you know intent to lean because there's this outstanding fine that's due that we took testimony and he admitted that he you know was in violation of the rules I mean if you can work out something with
your contractor that he covers it but the amount still is owed to the Village I did not know it is the property owner's responsibility to know what our rules are and to convey them to contractors you can't always depend on a
contractor knowing everything because myself I didn't know the rules they told me that the contractor when he goes to the to the city to get the permit they gave them all the information they are the one who going toob all more so he should have followed the rules so and he came and he said he was going to pay it
I really didn't know that that wasn't paid the city cannot go after the contractor ma'am okay no I understand so now I'm going to have to go and have a talk with him for sure that this thing is uh um may I ask a question uh there's
a $500 um outstanding fee you think you'll be able to pay it within 10 days yes that's it I'd like to make a motion right ahead make a motion on case [Music] number oh
c-24 d122 uh that there's a lean outstand that there's uh be outstanding $500 and give the property owner until February 26 February the 26th to
pay in full or if not direct The Village to proceed with following a lean and the applicable filing fees I'll second I'll second okay we have a motion in a second all in favor I iOS motion passes 5 Z just see
the village when you get ready to pay and okay thank 26 thank you get him to pay that money to you the next item is under Section 8 fine reductions it's 8.1 for the address
11331 Northeast 11th Place it's for case number c-24 d275 property owner is 11331 Northeast 11th Place LLC in care of the
registered agents Maris estaban he asking for a refine reduction on an outstanding fine of $1,250 the property is now in compliance and we have filed an Affidavit of
compliance he is proposing to pay a fine of $250 and um Cod compliance department is recommending $500 which was 250 um assessment for the violation and 250 in
administrative cost which cannot be waved I I believe very strongly that when we're dealing with fine reductions dealing with the daily fines is one issue but if we have found that there was in fact violation the 250 and the
additional 250 for admin costs are the basis of what we require when there has been found to be a violation and to go lower than that that's a terrible precedent not only in the future but for those who have paid those fines in the
past all now that all being said may I I'm I'm I'm so sorry the respondent is on Zoom that's what I was getting ready to ask I'm so sorry sorry I apologize sir it was warning I'm so sorry because
I didn't realize that and that's kind of critical if we're negotiating and I have a a well if if there are no other questions um I was in I was in agreement also that we shouldn't be waving the uh fees and the uh uh administrative fee and the fine
but I was reading I was unclear as to the offer because I saw he was offering to pay $250 and to me that was in addition to what was already there the administrative fee and the um f so is the property owner sir are you um
offering to pay a total of 750 as a fine reduction I just want clarity as to you I'm yeah you you said me the the my proposal was to to pay 250 for for the administrative cost but I I don't
understand your your question sorry no um no there there's administrative cost of 250 and a fine of 250 so that's 500 and you had daily fines which totaled I believe $750 was your offer I was I was just get
wanting Clarity on your offer was it um was that 250 towards the daily fines or you're just offering to pay 250 for everything I offer to pay 250 for everything uh okay and again the city has to put staff out there to do the
administrative work and I personally have an issue with dropping a f so low that it doesn't cover the vi Co cover The Village's expenses I think that whatever you have incurred um maybe not pay the entire
amount for the daily expenses but it needs to cover the cost of what the city has to pay to our staff if you look the notice of violation was issued in April of last year compliance was approximately five
months later so no I would I would my motion would be to not accept the offer of 250 so M well I was Reserve motion because I was not
done just say second for discussion second for discussion okay so uh is stabon is it yeah okay so so first of all I I read uh in your in your submission that you're
talking to us from Spain right now yeah I am in Spain okay well I hope it's good weather out there yeah well it's a little cold yeah okay well look uh you know we appreciate the fact that you um
that you got the work done and that you brought this in the compliance and that's really the the goal of why we are all here um you know I you've heard and I'm not going to reiterate it but you heard you know three of us out out of
the five that are here talk about you know the amounts that are incurred in terms of the time that the village has to take to do the work that they do in order to to put together these things as well as um to bring uh into compliance
so um I think you heard is that you know that uh that they're going to cut you a break potentially on The Daily fines but you know I'd like to make a motion in in case number have to either vote up or down on
her motion oh which in the motion was we have the first motion to not accept the $250 offer just a yes or no has to give us an offer we don't negotiate okay we just tell them that you know what we're
thinking I have a motion and a second all in favor of not accepting the offer I I I any opposed to not accepting the offer motion passes 5 Z was that Janie
dale dale so so now as stabon has an opportunity to say what he would and I think as ston you heard I think pretty loud and clear that you know we're not going to accept the 250 but we would
consider strongly it sounds like uh a a reduction to $500 so I think if you make that motion you'll have some support well no I was saying that would be the minimum I'm also looking at the fact that this was had been going on
since April and until until they came into compliance so a daily fine what was uh you know we had that should be that that's why I was wanting Clarity on what he was offering was he offering a total of
$750 or was it just $ 250 period um so I am I would look at something towards you know the daily fine only because had this been resolved at the beginning and never came here it it wouldn't have a daily fine
wouldn't have occurred been incurred well I mean I'm looking at the stay Bond's uh fine reduction requests and one of the things that he talked about was the fact that he's property owners you're hearing from us how we feel what what is your next
offer my next offer sorry or if you even want to offer any well I know I I I listen some somebody said 500 by the building department
or is it correct or can you hear me can you hear me sorry can you hear us yeah can you hear all right so essentially you have to make us another offer we can't counter an offer
to you we can only vote up or down okay I need to do a new offer to you right now is it correct so verbally you have to make us another offer or the full amount stands
okay I don't know I listen 500 at the beginning of the conversation 500 is it okay that is your is that your offer sir okay yeah it's my offer 500 I mean I'd like to just to to to
note that you know a stabon uh fine reduction information included that he has uh and and you're here saon you can tell me if this is yeah you you've been living in Spain since July yeah here's the question that I have for you and I think it's a question
is probably on the minds of some of the folks here is that you know you got a violation on April 30th which was the end of April so there was couple of months there before you had moved to Spain that you would receive this information what what happened during that time and why didn't you do something about it during that period of
time as we consider you know this spine reduction well the the issue is the following because I run two permits with with the city the first permit let me let me tell you but the first permit I
was run the first met in June by myself because I thought that I can oh okay so that was already two months yeah well it it's because I was
with the with the move mve in really I I was a little busy for that reason I my delay and am I correct and this is a non-homesteaded rental property property it's a rental property
yes yeah we have the $500 offer do I have any motion on that make a motion to deny the offer uh basically it covers the um the offer covers administrative costs and the fine but nothing towards a daily assessment when it wasn't in
compliance for a period of days figure approximately five approximately four and a half months from the notice of violation to
uh when the daily fines kicked in I can second it for discussion I have a motion and a second for discussion board questions if there are no questions we'll take a
vote the motion is to deny the offer of $500 all in favor I I I any opposed I that would be no no motion passes score one well stay on you're down2 here so
you got another offer to make okay 750 750 is it correct really I I don't know exactly the the cost that the city has but if you consider 750 is enough I will
pay for discussion I'd like to make a motion to accept the offer of 750 for discussion I'll second discussion any questions from the board no no questions all in favor I when would you like this payment to be
done pay by date please oh with the pay by date of Sir could you make the payment by J uh Janu uh February the 26th that's 10 days yeah absolutely I can do it tomorrow if I can do it by by
phone or by the website I can do it tomorrow we'll give you until February the 26th that'll be 10 days so the uh um except in case number let me do this with restate my motion on case number
c-24 d275 D um 275 a to AC accept the uh off fine reduction offer of $750 to be paid in full by uh February the 26th if not the fine will revert to
to um in Judy I believe you second yes all in favor I I Clos motion passes 5 Z okay thank you so much thank you thank you thank you have a nice day next
case next item is 8.2 for the address 11335 Northeast 11th Place the case number is c-24 d276 aqu Gonzalez Mr Gonzalez is here
asking for a fine reduction I don't believe he was sworn in that's correct please raise your right hand do you swear or formed that the testimony you about to give would be the truth the whole TR nothing but the truth we have a total yes at
this probably should be more recent than the one on here because I'm wondering if the one here is the most yeah no I'm sorry it would be because we stopped the um I'm sorry we stopped the daily fin so yes
outstanding amount is $30,000 and $30,500 Mr Gonzalez is proposing to pay $50 property is now in compliance that's less than 1% and
Dorian did you did you have a suggestion from your department um yes considering the amount of time it took to um bring this case to the board and for Mr Gonzalez to come into compliance we are proposing $1,000 and that takes into account
um working with Mr Gonzalez because I mean I think that we were going to get him a name plate here he's been here so many times in the last several months in the time that you've worked with Mr Gonzalez during that period of time you you you think that that in does that include all of that as well as you know
uh the folks going back out there to inspect and all yes okay my concern is that we're fair to the city that the city residents don't need to pick up the tab for code work working on a particular case that it
come out of the particular homeowners for the amount of time spent so $50 is certainly not even one person at this meeting let alone how many meetings we've had so well I think that we all on
even on the last discussion talked about you know a minimum of of the of the 500 the 250 the 250 is even you know a starting point and then getting into talking about the daily fines if I heard everybody correctly so so I mean I was even in agreement with that because of
the time that I know that Dorene and and everybody puts into um you know their job in bringing the stuff to us in the manner that it is so I'd agree there is no more discussion like
to make a motion case number c-24 d276 to deny the property owners's um uh offer of 50 I'll second second are we
second Michael already did oh Michael all in favor of not accepting the $50 I I any oppos passes 5- Z so Mr Gonzalez were you hear with the last guy that was going through what
what his fine reduction I walked in okay well so I apologize for walking in late yeah so basically you know if you did you would have saw you know kind of what happened because he's got his Deni and I think he offered 250 and and
uh you can make you have the opportunity to make a verbal offer counter offer because we don't negotiate so you have to make another offer and we can you know discuss it but you've heard what Doren talked about and I and that's why I wanted to be very specific with her to
find out you know if it included everything if they thought that was you know their Department was a fair and reasonable amount they get from 30,500 to 1,000 looking back at how many times this case was in front of us and that's postings and
effort on the part of which is time is money obviously on the part of Staff obviously 50 not even 1% so we know that's gone we need to hear another offer sir we appreciate it and first and foremost thank you for for hearing me it
seems like small out of formality Only We Know Who You Are but for the record I do need to to give your name and your relationship to the property sure my name is ago Gonzalez and I'm the owner of 11335 Northeast 11th Place yeah um assuming you're not going to charge me
rent for as many times as I've been here um I the the $50 and please I don't want you to misunderstand um the $50 that I wrote in uh was quite frankly maybe a misunderstanding on my part with regards
to what the fee was for the uh for the um fine reduction doing it yeah form so I sort of figured that that's what it was uh however I I I do feel strongly that
um hav been married 30 years I know how to follow directions and I have done that um from day one with the help of of darene vanet uh and Mr nibs primarily um and and I've done that from from day one
and and I don't want to beat a dead horse but the reality of it is that this issue um surfac from a visual issue that being that I I have had a white uh gravel and then I
upgraded to uh gray granite and then that's where everything stemmed from so the point I'm making is that um once I was identified I guess because of that I I sought guidance and in fact went ahead
and uh added Granite uh to additional Granite so that in fact it would be leveled out and then that's when all hell broke loose because now and please with all due respect the the gold poost moved a little bit because we were originally looking at an issue of um
color Granite versus gravel and then all of a sudden it became something something further which I I you I threw in the white flag and uh and went ahead and I ask you to remember it also included the border that was the that is
the requirement on a gravel driveway and so we waited till you came into comp had to wait till you came into compliance with that Miss Anderson and and that's my point initially uh you know with with really great uh cooperation
on both ends with uh Dorene and her crew the guidance was more gravel then it was um parking bumpers and then finally then we went ahead and put that in I received on the
on the 9th of January um Vanessa was very kind to to send the you have a a one pager that lays out what things are to look like so on so forth that's when I scrap the the bumpers that had originally been identified as okay and
then put in the the um the edging the Met aluminum edging which are there now um so that's that's my my my point as far as a counter offer I don't know
$250 seem okay again because of the cooperation that has been there from day one and the guidance that had been followed that's that's um why a feel strongly about that if I may please because I know the guidance is that I had offered and at the time because it
was due to the order of enforcement and the citation was to replace the driveway um the no odor of enforcement was uh in violation of not having the pulling a permit to replace the driveway after you're coming and bringing it forward
you may have had some concerns the pictures that we received and the testimony we received at the time not indicate that it was multicolored driveway or that the otherwise we would have dismissed it at that time it was the
50% so that's why the order of enforcement went there seeing how you were working with the village that was great I mean personally I would have liked to see a whole new driveway but you were working with the village borders were put
in gravel was put in said you know this this um property owner is bettering his property and and for the community but it took quite a while had at the beginning the first time whenever we were here and
explaining what we were looking for it would it would have come into compliance lot long months Mr milon and and and I apologize and that's where I I think there's been a disconnect from day one I have you you
all meet I guess once a month or whatnot and and then I I come in once a month but your your my communication your your envoys are in fact darene and her her her team which I appreciate and
that's who I'd been in communication through and and the point and I apologize if I haven't been clear that I had followed those directions and so it's not that I've ignored uh quite the
contrary uh and that's why I mentioned moving the goalpost initially it was more gravel than it was straightening out those bumpers and then eventually it became hey you need to put in new that that's the point I'm making so I don't want to revisit all this again uh
otherwise you'll charge me for more rent um but I guess my point is um yeah I feel strongly that the amount should be uh minimal I and and I trust that this does not is not the salaries
that are paid to to a wonderful team this is above and beyond that it's not so their time is I hope compensated for with with their salaries not not these these uh fines okay it's just the time and effort
the puts into it and I want um you know there there's a fine of 250 and administrative the of 250 just for that one one hearing um of for the order enforcement since then been multiple times going out even though here each time we met it was specifically
addressed major concern was if it was not going to be um a new a new uh driveway was not going to be pulled in and I was leaving that to them the borders were the concern that was from day one because what was there was mix
mismatch on every corner of the perimeter three sides were round ones they were the rectangle ones uh I'm glad you brought this in uh where it looks now thank you is an improvement yeah and
and and I and I believe that I believe that what we've all been discussing is really what we've discussed over the course of several months and that's what you know the tongue-and-cheek joke was about you being here you know because that understanding that Collective understanding and then and then you know
ultimately uh compliance came through those meetings came through that you know is it moving the goal poost or is it just you know a clear understanding on on both sides about what needs to be done whatever it is the bottom line is it's done and you're here before you know to ask for a reduction from
$30,500 you know and and and if you had been here for a stay Bond uh you know time you would have heard my uh you know uh you know way I view it is I view it as a minimum of you know that that 250
plus 250 I think that's that's got to be a starting point you know but I do hold a lot of weight towards dorine and her team about what they what they believe uh you know um the time and effort was and what that's calculated to be for The Village's time I mean I'm an attorney I deal with you know I you know
I live my life in you know six minute increments you know because we Bill our time uh but and and you know and I I hold a lot of weight into that and you know she would have said 15,000 I would have hold a lot of weight into that too but you know that's why I'm I'm looking for that unvarnished view so as far as I
see it you know it's got to start you know at you know with $500 for even a discussion and then I would hold a lot of weight to what Dorene said make a very good point 500 has to be the starting point because that's the violation and the admin cost just from
square one now we've had several more meetings beyond that so again we're looking to use sir you hear what you've heard tonight and I too totally agree with Michael I place a great deal of
stock in what staff has to say they know what's gone into the process in the from their side of the issue so again we're waiting for your next offer and we can is an offer for 250 is that denied offer for 250 the
second offer there hasn't been a motion I'll make a motion to deny the offer of 250 favor of denying the 250 i i i i is zero folks I guess I'm I'm I'm uh at a loss I
guess the $500 is it then so be it um would that be acceptable you may have missed the point that we were trying I may have speak for myself I think the villages recommended $1,000 we
were saying the 500 is the minimum we would even consider at this point that c starting point that was from the first hearing from the um order of enforcement since then there has been several other hearings month after month along with all the paperwork and the time and
effort to compile all this go out to the property to meet with you the Billy said it come down to about a thousand I would may want to take that consideration offering 500 let us know please if if that would
suffice that's your yes it is your offer is five yes ma'am I'll make a motion to deny the $500 offer second all in favor of denying the $500
offer I I any opposed motion passes 5 Z you can make an you can make another offer the one thing that I would you know that I would like the board to to consider as
Mr Gonzalez considers is if he wants to make it another offer which you should particularly if you got 30,500 that you're looking at uh is that from the you know the conduct of Mr Gonzalez
throughout the process and you know of compliance and and trying understand it coming to these meetings do you live in Miami Springs in Miami Springs I do so you come here from Miami Springs for these meetings right so I mean a considerable amount of effort um you know from his part you know to to you
know to get the understanding of uh what the village wanted for his compliance um and uh even at this point you know looking back you know you describe it as you know moving the goalpost so it it it appears that you
still you know have a a different understanding of what was you know required and necessary uh you know for purposes of bringing your your uh driveway into compliance and you heard Mr Bland and then you heard what you know he you know was focused on those borders from day
one you know you were like hey look if I didn't put any you know any extra you know rocks in there a different color I never would be here I'm here because you know damned if I do damned if I don't right no good de goes unpunished so you know I I I understand you know your perspective uh in in that you know and
at the same time you know the the village has been you know working with you at a considerable amount of time as well to get you know us to where we are today which is compliance it looks beautiful it's you know everybody is uh
you know checked off on on those boxes but now we're just looking to try to figure out you know what's the best fine reduction you know we already Bas you know we basically heard us say that you know you know the non-starter is you know at 500 you know the, you've heard
from with dorine is I would ask you know the board as you consider your next offer you know to consider you know Mr Gonzalez You know despite not having you know uh you know believing that uh you know he that the gold poost or despite believing the gold poost were moved did
as you said as a man of 30 years of marriage throughout the white flag and and complied and now he's here you know seeking the mercy of this board to try to consider uh an amount that um you know we'll all be you know upset with
you know I do you know I get involved in mediations and the mediator says that a successful mediation is when both parties leave unhappy yeah so very true I'll just leave you with that and um you know your
next we'll wait for your next offer folks first and foremost I don't I do not because it hasn't been the case that I have disregarded any guidance whatsoever quite the contrary I think what what has happened is the for lack
of a better term the the communication um literally uh the first time that I was to be here um I was told that I could come over zoom and that was in
effect not the case maybe that's something that's been corrected because I've seen a couple of folks come through but the point is that had I been here then um excuse me via Zoom which I Ted tried to log on and I Pro provided proof of that earlier um
it's not a matter of disregard it's what I have been uh hearing and receiving guidance for and and that's it so I don't that's first and foremost because I think that should play a part in in the Goodwill that I think has been evident um so I guess U everybody being
unhappy I'm terribly unhappy because the money would be coming out of my pocket uh but in any event I guess if we could split the baby at 7:50 would that would everybody leave unhappy I think I'd be sufficiently
unhappy uh with that amount um and I think that you know one of the things that that has struck me about your case is that you were here every time you know even the time when it was zoom and you couldn't get through you attend tempted and you've you've uh taken the
process seriously even when you didn't agree with it and at the end of the day uh have come into full compliance you know in in the eyes of the city and uh some of that was a learning curve I think for for for for you and for for the siid I don't think it was done uh
and correct me if I'm wrong dorine it was done politely and courteously and professionally throughout there was no Nas and hanging up phones and ping out I appreciate all of that the point in asking staff for their
input is they are nitty-gritty behind the scenes seeing everything that goes into it and I'm going to be perfectly straight up I am not comfortable going below staff's recommendation well and that's why I
asked you know for the board to consider uh Mr Gonzalez's case and I'd like to make a motion to accept his $750 offer to the um to the Village to satisfy this this long running Saga that it's ended
successfully for uh the village to be paid by February 26 we have a motion do we have a second motion guys for lack of a second looks I I I've appealed properly I'm I'm not going to
lose my Integrity because I disagree with you know the way things have been handled or mishandled um that would never be the case but I I appeal to Darin uh Daren you you you identifi the
Thousand um we had um I hope that you take into into account U time I did minimally involved and I'm and I'm hoping that you would in fact uh
receive or accept the the 750 I unfortunately I don't accept that the board is in control apologize I I I've made the recommendation of $1,000 based on my own review of the case and the amount of time we sent a supervisor
out there the paperwork phone calls and everything that we put in as staff okay folks what what are if I may what are my recourses because um in terms of the uh the thousand and and appealing that and
there another formal are you saying you you will not make an offer above 750 then we're done right there's if that's and and I apologize for not being familiar with this process um so what am I to
say $800 is that I don't know how this process works it almost feels like I'm uh Auction House think you kind of get a sense of the things that we if if if staff recommends a thousand then we feel
bound to going no less than that because they know the amount of time and effort they've put in and we appreciate the fact that you've put in a lot of time and effort too but our job is to make sure that the city is covered as well
that compliance number one and number two that um that the city is covered for its expenses and the city can't charge you for every certified letter that has to go out but the city pays it and the staff has to go to the Post Office and
take it down there and and do the research and do the pictures and do all that work so we have a hard time going under staff recommendations for what they feel their time put into it was and and and and I appreciate it and thank
you for for the detail I I feel very strongly as well that I have followed directions and and and you know we keep referring to $30,000 because it it's it started with
moving to gopost I have I have uh complied with with the requests that have been provided that's that's where I'm coming from and we understand that and appreciate it when it was finally complied with it's good but sir you've heard what
you've heard here tonight so we're kind of prolonging the inevitable you're saying is that Mr Gonzalez we're requesting $1,000 and that's it no I'm requesting another offer from you $800 would
that I mean I what I what I think I'm communicating is that I I I feel as though dollar amounts that have been laid out are excessive based on what I have been able to do have the the um
cordiality that I've had and I I you know I certainly can will cover that does not negate the time the offer of 800 second all in favor I no further offers or anything then we
have an outand right all those oppos SST so it it's for one what you've heard articulated here Mr Gonzalez essentially is uh and I think I articulated the case and and I you heard my feelings but I'm in the minority um and you heard pretty loud
and clear that you know what you know from what Dorene had had put into you know that number what she considered it wasn't 30,500 it wasn't $15,000 she said it was $1,000 so um we
all give a considerable considerable amount of weight to what Dorene says I took into consideration you know the the history of this case but that's not shared by my uh fellow board members and that's the reality that you're in right
now I took into consideration driveway and what we ended up with was a refurbishing of an existing driveway so I think we've taken a lot into consideration on both sides correct I mean I think we've been very Cooperative with it may have taken some time that's
why I think that uh you know the process worked for the betterment of both of us Village who prior to this even with the added rocks you have to admit the way did not look as it does it looks very it
looks much better uh trying to have all driveways and anything goes over 50% needs to be a new driveway so I think it was very Coop we cooperated as a village
and this point I think we should uh to add to what the member sry I would like to add to what the member just St Mr Gonzalez the way we issued that violation you would have been required to install a brand new driveway but I looked at it and looked at the whole
case reviewed it and thought you know we could um come down with the requirements and maybe just repair it that was just consideration on our part and the board didn't have to agree with that so I just wanted to make that point so you understand that your common sense
approach to it I TR I truly do and that's that's all I've been saying from day one that I have followed that guidance and I appreciate that guidance and I appreciate the common sense as well so thank you folks uh obviously I am not going to allow um any group or
anybody uh to lean my property for $30,000 that would be ridiculous I will go ahead and because you giving me no choice to pay the the the ,000 uh I guess my question to you all and I think it's a learning opportunity for both of
us what are my my recourses to you know obviously I'm I'm going to pay the Thousand are there recourses for for me and and I'm just speaking as a as a um um get someone before you
um for the Thousand doll I I I didn't agree with that and I and I think I've stated how and why you mean to appeal the appeal the the order of enforcement the the $ thousand $1,000 is a recommendation Mr Gonzalez it's not on the book they have haven't voted to
accept our our recommendation it's up to you to make an offer if you if you can make an offer this is your offer your other ready to correct I mean oh and it's and and it's very clear
that it's that it's it's clearly up to me my choices are $1,000 or $30,000 is that not the case Mr Blen that's correct sir I if it was up to me I think it requires a little more but I have heard you I've heard the other members of this
board I'm not unreasonable with regards to what the village is asking just for what they what the village considers as property am and and I think person I wouldn't necessarily um make it
but I would even agree to it but I haven't heard an offer so I I I because I have stated from the first time you came before us regards to there should be a
driveway and through the process we here we really do have to come to a conclusion at this point yeah no I I see your your bu without doubt and I appreciate your you're seeing me I walked in a little late Mr Linton you were about to say something okay well I was just going to say procedurally I
think what what what was going on now is is is a motion to you know redu you know reduce the the the fine you know the notice of intent to lean and you know that's you know that's that's a whole separate matter that's beyond the scope of what we're doing you know in terms of what your recourse would be for that
would would be related to that but that's not what we are we you know you we're kind of like the appellant court of or or or law of equity or Court of equity to say hey would you accept this instead of that yeah or nay you know as far as a recourse it's not really a
recourse that's situation we're still is off I apologize Miss serson not yeah I realize that that's off the table because that's what we're doing here and I'm aware of that but I think Mr Blandon said Hey listen your choices are $1,000 or $30,000 oh I apologize I misunderstood
said your offer is $1,000 all I said was that's what the village has recommended that they would like to see and otherwise there is a current fine of 3 30,500 that is all not put words in
I have it but but at the end of the day for my for for my effects it's either $330,000 or $1,000 it's really what what it's comeing down to if you make that motion then it will be that but you haven't made the motion yet you've just heard what the discussion the offer
offer okay well I've made other offers they've let's back up Sir the last offer of 800 was denied do you want to make another offer sir yes I'd love to make an offer of
$1,000 are you making that offer sir Miss serson I just did yes ma'am want to make sure you want to put words in my mouth I will make a motion in CN I will make a motion in Cen 24- 276
that we accept Mr Gonzalez's offer of ,000 second to be paid by to be paid by February 26th the offer of $1,000 motion to accept PID by February 26th motion by Judy I've
seconded all in favor I I any opposed motion passes 5 thank you all good night thank you Mr Gonzalez yes we are moving back to Old business which
is section six of the agenda 6.1 for the address 824 Northeast 111th Street for case number CC 25004 for HQ bcan Park LLC in care of their
registered agent Miami accounting and T Services LLC this is an intent to lean for $500 which remains unpaid the violation was uh for Section 18.4 permitted days and hours of construction uh we have filed an aavid
of non-compliance there is no one present to represent the property there's no questions I'd like to make a right ahead case number c-25
d004 that uh viol I mean direct The Village to I'll second that and make applica filing fa I'll second that all in favor I opposed motion passes 5
Z next item is 6.2 for 826 Northeast 121st Street case number e-22 0383 with Jan roots and his wife Denise in care of their attorney
This was um there is a request for a continuance on this case from the village manager um awaiting a meeting between him and the contractor continuance to the next hearing was going to say because there's
nothing different than the first time we had this there is still not the back that we all asked for unfortunately the manager couldn't get a a meeting date earlier than this hearing um so they will be having a meeting soon and we he
requested that we move the case to March 20 March the 12th meeting okay I'll make a motion that in e22 d383 we continue this case till March's meeting second all in favor I I oppos
motion passes 5 Z I would just like to put it on the record that all attorneys representing the property and the property owner were notified and they responded they all respond they responded all responded
Yes was the second it was Judy this is the for the property located at 8:30 Northeast 116th Street for case number Cen
24471 Matthew Q boing and Ashley cook boing um this property is now in compliance the fines have been paid have been paid correct and that applies to all three cases coming up
under 6.4 and 6.5 for the same property owners and the same property so all three three four and five have been paid in compliance okay I make a motion in case is Cen oh
I'm sorry if there's no comment from the board no I'll make a motion in cn24 d471 472 and 584 all cases all fines have been paid property is in compliance close the
cases second all in favor I I oppos no motion passes 5 Z we're moving to new business back to new business section 7 7.1 for 905 Northeast 111 Street case number CC 25-
00001 um property owner is SE Nash nashb LLC in care of their registered agent Miami accounting and tax services LLC we were going to ask for um no order of enforcement on this one but they have complied
oh that looks so did a good job clean it and painted it okay do I do I have a motion uh case number c i mean c-25 d001 make motion that the property is in
compliance and second Michel second all in favor I any opposed motion passes 5 Z next items 7.2 and 7.3 for the property located at 1019 Northeast 115th
Street case number is CN CC 25-17 and CC 25-19 property owner is bis Investment LLC in care of their registered agent Republic registered
agent um this property was violated as a short-term rental for noise and maximum capacity they have paid the fines and then now in compliance oh they paid all right they paid on they paid $1,000 the other violation did not
come with a fine we clarified this with the village attorney and the clarification is for short-term rentals the only violations that come with the ,000 fine and escalation to 2 three and four up to five and noise
violations not violence so it doesn't come before us for an administrative in this case we considered that they cooperated they came they met with the police they met with the village manager they were very cooperative and they paid the violation for the noise we moved to
close the cases I make motion on case number c217 that compliance has been achieved payment made and Clos all second all in favor I motion passes 5 any opposed motion passes 5
Z and the other one we are I'm sorry the second one on this property we're continuing till March on this property no no oh yes I'm sorry we'll continue this case to March not because they're not in compliance but
because there needs to be clarification on the section was to to move was Janie and and B it was a 5 Z yeah yes thank
you the next case is on 7.5 for the address 11401 Northeast 8th Court case number is cc- 25-15 property appraisal information is protected we are asking for an order of
enforcement and in the order of enforcement we would like the board to specify that the village is asking to take this case to the unsafe structure board for the Miami date County to get an order to demolish this building that
was my first instinct in seeing this there's nothing more we there is no point in more violations more fines whatever that's pointless at this point it's got to be a case drawn up to present to the unsafe structures board I
mean when you look at these pictures yeah was astonishing and you know my my heart goes it's not way to describe it my heart goes to people that have to the neighbors correct the danger and if kids get into the yard now that's another question and I
know we try to be very careful about the whole fencing issue the construction fencing is there anything in our code that would allow the village to at least erect some sort of a barrier so kids don't go
wandering around there I don't think mean there has to be some sort of a safety concern safety fence can be installed however the way this property is it's fenced on two sides oh okay and
the front of the property so children wouldn't go on the property and also this property is very wellmaintained in the front that no one would think of squatter wouldn't think of going onto this property no there is no access from the back no because there's another house
behind there it's fenced all around we went in the back it's has anybody like seen the owner has there been any contact huh I do believe they located him we haven't seen him but we spoke to fam the police spoke to
family members okay no no it doesn't there's no way anyone would live in that house it's so go right ahead number
c515 uh move forward Miami County mhm uh for deem this property deem it as an unsafe stru I'll
second I'll second that all in favor I any opposed motion pass is 5 Z and it's for the address 11530 Northeast 7th Avenue the case number is C ec- 25- 0043 for Ivan
Pacho this property is now in compliance it was also violated as a short-term rental for noise they have paid the $1,000 and they are now in compliance c43 second all in favor I passes 5 Z and that concludes the cases we brought
before the board tonight two things number one we have to vote on Rolo's January absence I'd like to hear what R had to say well the story the story is that after I went over the paper and
everything I didn't realize there was a day before I did it the day it was the meeting was supposed to be so Wednesday I come here with my package I open the door and I don't see anybody but the commission
meeting oh my good it was [Laughter] Tuesday yeah because you weren't here either I did the same thing and for me the issue was I didn't know what day it was was because I went on to the city
website and the City website had it listed as Wednesday so I had to go down to City Hall and say okay guys what is it and it was up and down and up and down and luckily I had both days open
not only because it didn't get put to the right date on the calendar until late but it we had a conflict and we will again next month with arts and culture and somebody has to reach out to them in advance because we can't very
well move to Village Hall we have too many people but I can't I pictured all of us showing up at the same time going okay now we're well I I I'd like to make a motion to uh to
forgive Rulo and to excuse him for for getting it wrong on the calendar forgive and forget I agree favor I passes
okay did oh minutes January's minutes did everybody have a chance to read them everybody has had the chance to read January's minutes do we have any questions concerns Corrections I'd like to make a motion to
approve minutes January I'll second favor I motion pass 5 the community outreach program that I asked you guys to put on for discussion did anybody bring copies so that anybody
who didn't see it in in the agenda can take a look unfortunately we didn't bring any copies but I would um promise to bring them to the March meeting we have an LTC that we have prepared with the manager that's going to be going out soon and um impose on you to kind of
give everybody a brief overview please because I don't know what you're talking about oh so the code department is this year um preparing to we have launched it but we would like to formally launch an outreach
program um which is um we are doing this to bridge the gap between uh the residents and government Code Compliance in particular we would like to reach out to the community in different ways um to let them know about what we do to let
them know about the codes and sometimes explain the codes to them because sometimes people just don't know what's going on and they just don't know what these codes um entail did happen to take a screenshot just in case so kind there
were four points to it the mayor's one is preparing to start a mayor's Academy where like everybody I'm sorry every Department Village is represented people come can get more information can pay directly to employees and department
heads the other is a once a month post on codes I love this part a post once a month on social media explaining codes and how to avoid citations I like it letters of intent I
think is absolutely fantastic that's where you guys starting we are starting with your area the letters of intent are going in your area first people kind of get you're letting people know up front this is what we're
looking for this is what we're focusing on and then more brochures and pamphlets more information we' just done a subpar job going back since code was invented of getting upfront on issues
you know it we can't always be reactive I wonder you got to wonder how many people would have avoided problem they don't it's easy for those of us who've kind of always been involved to of know what's going on but but in all
honesty when we passed the new driveway ordinance we sent out letter after letter after letter after letter we did quite a bit to reach out to the community it was in social media on next
door and everywhere so when people say we had no idea there was a driveway big ordinance changed we've done a good job but I'm talking the little ones I think the ma one of the major things is just whenever it comes down to pulling
permits on the smaller items such as clarification of what constitutes when you pull a permit such as over certain amount if it's attached to your house if it is something because I know of people who are confused if I um if I want to
change out my cabinets in my kitchen but I'm not doing elect or Plumbing do I need a permit that's that's very true and do I need a permit to paint my house I think it's great the community outreach is great I think that's a really good way to bridge the
gap EXC me is it not yes we do have an app now a goab app that I hope most residents are signed up to now where we can actually disseminate information we will use the app as well because and the website for push
information not that people have to go look right I'll come talkow have the app thing com withun well I'm GNA give you a call like tomorrow whenever you need it I appreciate it absolutely we're we're
pretty small potatoes in this little town and and as you can see from our little um architectural gym here we still live in the past and we need to move forward we love it we love it small we love it little we love the way it is
but it's growing all around us got a here all the time and there's you know it's like we need to make sure that people know what they need to be doing you know we can definitely do that but yeah I can definitely help you out I appreciate
that very much than okay any other discussion questions oh I want to say it's great meeting you Ashlin that's great glad you're coming it it took me quite a while to understand what was going on and what needed to be done um I'd say
probably four or five months so it'll it'll be good for you to be here even if you can't vote on things and we do appreciate your opinion everybody's opinion is respected and um and and we look forward to having somebody on because every now
and again something comes up and somebody can't make it and we don't like having to cancel a meeting when we've got a room full of people here because somebody doesn't make it and and we've right the postings that they they
send out certified letters to people to let them know what's going on so it's a cost to the Village it's a cost to people and their time and their energy and um we we we made it by the skin of our teeth on a meeting a little while
ago and that's when we decided we very much needed somebody else thanks on the fine reductions that we need be reminded that um we Alo take into consideration whether a property is homesteaded and
Resident that's correct thank you good point see property is home because if they're making money off of it it's a different story yeah um what about the thing we discussed earlier about the possibility of going
to the manager unforunately for all of us this may or may not be probably is during last meeting and I think I'm speaking only
for me now that's the only person I can speak for I have a concern of where we go forward because to say the DOR no disrespect in any way shape or
form to any absolutely one of our absolutely terrific hardworking staff pleas but Dorene has been the driving force behind incredible improvements in code bringing it up to a professional level seeing things from a bigger
perspective than I've seen in all the years of being in on the outside involved in code in some way and it's going to be a significant loss now as it is we're down one code officer Bano moved on
to Anna you went with Anna of course so it's tough enough that Rafael and Vanessa we're all you know we're concerned I'm wondering now legally we can't go together as a group can
we no what about luano have to call special meeting have to be posted well I I think we should do that then would be my feeling how does everybody feel about following a special meeting which we'd have to in order for us all to be together right if the manager would be
willing to meet with us to do anything to ke toine I would do that absolutely feel free to prefer and I'm going to really put you on the spot now if you would prefer we stay out of it
for you to say that because I don't want to put you on the spot in the meeting I wouldn't stop you from doing what you need to all right we love it we love it answer but I hope you understand Portugal can
wait that Portugal can wait so so I think we personally I will go I did drop in on Al today was it yeah and he wasn't there so I will try and drop in on him again but I think we should call for a special me if there's
a chance if there's a chance to keep Dorene if that's what we're getting at then we gotta then we'll you a special meeting whatever we got to do I'm I'm up for guys reach out to the manager and then kind of PLL into blind copied of
course all of us to see when a good time would be goodess I'll respond to those van okay right right right to see what we're check first check with now first of course thank you everybody because I
think that is a spectacular idea Judy thank you for bringing that up I'm just heartbreaking broken at the thought I mean I like I said the rest of the staff is wonderful but she's been our our leader I you know Dale please chime in
but for me having been on the board this time since I 2016 or 17 and having moved through several iterations it has been such a wonderful professional experience in dealing with
you Dorene and seeing what you brought to the department and no matter when I've interacted with you or here at the meetings you've made it very clear our village means a lot to you and you really put not not only your professionalism but your heart and soul
into it and it's it's made such a significant difference that just to see it kind of end in March okay that's painful I appreciate the comments I don't take it lightly I'm very humbled and
and to adjourn second third fourth all right everybody you