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Part 1 (Video ID: vukN3eFyW5I):
- 00:00:01: Initial chatter and preparations for code compliance board
- 00:09:40: Official Meeting Commencement; Biscayne Park Board Introductions
- 00:15:23: New Business: Shed installation without a permit
- 00:23:24: New Business: Wooden fence installed without permits
- 00:25:18: New Business: Dumpster placed without necessary permits
- 00:26:35: New Business: Church structural re-certification incomplete, extension requested
- 00:30:47: Moving to Old Business; Swearing in a witness
- 00:31:26: Old Business: Unsafe structure extension requested for demolition
- 00:40:15: Old Business: Accumulation of Trash, Junk, and Debris
- 00:41:24: Comments on construction films without proper permits
- 00:41:58: Old Business: Liens and unpaid fines; Title company request
- 01:04:14: Old Business: Tarps on a roof violation; case closed
- 01:05:38: Old Business: Driveway approach design standards violation extension
- 01:09:04: Old Business: Dumpster violation, compliance reached with outstanding fines
- 01:12:24: Old Business: temporary fence permit expired
- 01:15:32: Old Business: Overgrown Grass Violation, now in compliance
- 01:16:30: Old Business: Landlord registration paid, case closed
- 01:17:22: Old Business: Structural re-certification of existing building extension
- 01:18:54: New Business: Objects in the Swell (right of way)
- 01:21:50: New Business: Exterior painting without permit approval
- 01:24:38: Old Business: Dirty Roof Case Now In Compliance
- 01:25:38: Case 6.7 Addressed: Driveway Standards Violation Extension
- 01:28:15: Request for 60-day extension on structural recertification
- 01:29:58: Informational Purposes: Seven properties needed re-certification
- 01:30:37: Minutes Review and Approval; Board Member Absences
- 01:34:36: Discussion on Deteriorating Properties; Fence Delay Explained


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from his new owner. >> I mean, I scanned it and couldn't find You know our and somebody finished. Oh, okay. Sorry.

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Okay. He was big enough. >> He had very dry sense of humor. I suggest one more year. I'm looking for ahead. I'm glad I did some more

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chocolate. >> I don't know what the outcome was, but Lily I don't think I see anything higher. So friend, they were fighting over each other to get to

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I thought right. I might work. You can see her. or yeah she's We saw this big. >> Oh, no.

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Yeah, >> I think >> that's very reolution. Where are you? Press. I don't know what special We

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test the writing system. My separation different. Yes, please. Good evening everyone. >> I'd like to call to order the village of Biscane Park code compliance board meeting for Wednesday, May 13th. The

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time is 601. This is a meeting of the village of Biscane Park code compliance board. The board is authorized pursuant to chapter 14 of the villages land development code to ensure compliance with the villages code of ordinances. The members of the

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board are citizens and residents of the village of Biscuit Park. We volunteer our time and we're not paid for our services. The purpose of each hearing is to give any alleged violators the opportunity to contest the decision of the code compliance officer which

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resulted in the issuance of a notice of violation and to determine whether a violation of the villages code has occurred or is occurring. We are not authorized to dismiss violations based on hardships, ignorance or the fact that others may be guilty of the same

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violation. These hearings are conducted in a quasi judicial manner. Our responsibility is to act much like a judge in a court and that is to hear cases presented by the villages code compliance officers and to hear contradictory arguments presented

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by the alleged violators. We are not authorized to change the code. The village commission is solely authorized to enact or revise codes. Conversely, neither the commission nor the village manager have the authority to overrule the findings of the board. Pursuant to

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chapter 162 Florida statutes, orders of the board can only be appealed to the circuit court of Miami Dade County, we have the authority to assess and order the payment of simple penalties, to issue orders having the force of law, to command whatever steps are necessary to

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bring a violation into compliance, and to assess administrative costs. In order to make a finding upholding the co-compliance officer's decision, we must find that there is substantial competent evidence that the name violator was responsible for a violation

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of the relevant section of the code as charged. All documentary evidence presented by the parties must be submitted for placement in the hearing file. No documentary evidence will be considered unless the alleged violator or code compliance officer submits a copy for

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the hearing file. Each party shall have the right to call and examine witnesses, to introduce exhibits, to cross-examine opposing witnesses on any matter relevant to the issues, even though that matter was not covered in the direct examination, to impeach any witnesses,

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regardless of which party first called them, to testify, and to rebut the evidence against them. If you intend to address the board and you haven't signed in, please do so. Anyone wishing to address the board, please stand, raise your right hand so you can be sworn in.

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You are reminded that this board is a quasi judicial board and giving false testimony can be penalized. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I I got us a little out of order. My apologies. Vanessa, would you please call roll? >> No, he's on his way. Hello. >> Jamie Anderson here. >> Dale Blinton >> here. >> Roda Berontos. Judy Hammer here. Michael

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Latin. Dur Gray, Rafia Gutirez, Vanessa Cherry present. We >> do need to vote on Ralpho's absence. I'd like to make a motion to excuse Ralphotos. >> I'll second. >> All in favor?

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>> Passes 5. >> Have it sky hard. Four zero. Thank you. Any additions or deletions to the agenda? >> We have no additions and no deletions. My name is Dorian Grant. I'm the code compliance director for the village of

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Biscane Park. The first time on the first item on the agenda is in new business and it's item number 7.1 for the address 677 Northeast 111th Street is for case number C25-04949

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Peg Evans Lee. We are asking for an order of enforcement on this case. uh they were found to be in violation of section 16.14.1 double fee permits for installing a shed for the laundry without first obtaining

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a permit. Peg is present, but I'm looking at the permit that's been applied for. It's electric. What about the structure? The structure is I was at the property yesterday with the building official. The structure is still up. It hasn't

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been removed. >> However, Miss Peg has decided Have you decided? >> Yes. >> To install the washer and dryer inside the house. So, the electrical permit would just be one of the permits she needs. She would need mechanical and

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plumbing to be able to move the dryer from where it's located outside the house, bring it inside. um and have all those installed. So, that's not enough. She needs two more permits to be able to do that. >> Right. And I I found a plumber to >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Okay.

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>> So, the structure is going to be >> the structure will be removed. >> I I've given out >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> In your relationship to the property. >> Okay. I'm Peg Evans. It's my property.

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>> Any questions from any of the board? Okay. So, um I've tried to figure out how to resolve this problem and um my nephew came from South Carolina. He works construction. He said, "Peggy, I can take care of it for you, you know."

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So, he got here, but he he since he doesn't live here, he doesn't have a Florida uh license to do that. So, he couldn't do it. So then um I found a contractor and he took six weeks to come

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up with a bid which was very high and uh so I said can you work with me? Can you do it? I waited another he go oh yeah I can do that. I waited another three weeks and he ghosted me. So then the prefab shed came up because

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code had talked about the the prefab shed. So I looked into that. I found one. Um, but I'm concerned about it because I would need to have some holes put in it to have the hookups for the washing machine and the dryer. And um,

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Dorene and Miguel came yesterday and they said that would not pass inspection. So, uh, and I found another contractor, very nice gentleman. Uh, again, very expensive, over $12,000.

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So now when Dorene and Miguel came, I said, I would like to get them and put stackable machines, put them in my kitchen. And so they everybody thought that was a good idea. So, um I hired today, you

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know, if this is permissible, um an electrician, uh Mike Michael from Longarmm, and I found a plumber, Limttz, and he said he would be able to help me also. So, now I

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just need um the AC guy for the vent to locate that person. So, I'm I've been trying really hard. I mean, this has been exhausting. Really, really hard.

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>> Certainly appreciate the construction in South Florida is always to say the least a challenge. >> Yeah. >> Problem is all of this went up unpermitted. >> I understand it was so fast. I mean, the shed went up

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in three days, and I thought, you know, is this a big deal? I didn't know. Um, I had never built anything before. So, it it was it's new new territory for

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me. Truly new territory for me. So, yeah. I mean, before I lived in Biscane Park, I lived in New York City for 20 years. and you just talked to the super about your apartment. You know, you didn't have to get permits and all. So,

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this was all new for me. This is from the board. Someone like to make a motion. We appreciate the resident um working hard with the village to rectify this, but it was put up without a permit and

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was a violation. And uh I like the violation has occurred and um I won't give the property owner uh 90 days until the day I believe August the 17th.

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>> Mhm. >> August the 17th. um to have uh the um build the uh either come into compliance by removing the shed and pulling the proper permits

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>> or um $250 fine. Well, let me start over I've had a little vacation. So, um a violation has occurred. Mhm. >> $250 fine, >> administrative fee of $250, and to either come into compliance by

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having the shed removed or pulling the uh appropriate permit by August the 17th or a $250 fine per day there. >> I'll second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? >> Motion passes for me.

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>> I have a question. I'm a little confused. So, do I have to pay a fine now or do I have till August 17th to come in compliance? I'm confused. There there are essentially three components to the fine. >> Okay. >> $250 is the violation fine.

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>> Okay. >> 250 is the administrative fee. You will not have a daily fine if you comply by either removing the shed or pulling all required permits. Okay. By August 17th, but you will have the violation fine and

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the admin. >> Okay. What what's the second word you're saying? The >> 250 is the violation. >> Violation, right? And >> 250 is administrative. >> Administrative. Okay. The daily fine will only happen if you do not come into compliance by either removing the shed

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or pulling all the required permits. Okay. >> By August 17th. >> Okay. So, do I pay this tonight? >> No, ma'am. >> You want to set a date? >> Tomorrow. >> Okay. >> We We don't take payment here. >> Okay.

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>> You have a pay by date for the It's no pay, >> right? Well, we haven't done that before. >> Right. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> The next item is 7.10

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7.10 is for the address 120005 Northeast 7th Avenue. is for the case number CE26-00003 Javier and his wife Kimberly. We are asking for an order of

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enforcement on this case uh found to be in violation of section 16.14.1 double fee permits. A wooden fence was installed without first obtaining permits. Um the property owners are here. They have some documentation that

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they brought that we need to verify with the building official and in that case we would ask the board to give them a continuence give them some time so we are able to go through these documents with the building official so 30 days >> will it need

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>> still there be a work for you Javier >> yeah how's the board feel I >> I'm yeah if there's additional uh information and documentation I'd like for the villies to look at I mean the >> the the plans were submitted to the

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planning and zoning July 21, 2003. Um we received the permit. Um what constitutes a fence um that's subject to interpretation, but um you know I have the plans here. I have the permit card. I also have the

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permit official signature that it passed the final. >> If I make the motion in four degrees agrees, we're tableabling it till June. >> Perfect. But I'd like to make a motion in C26-00003 to table this until June's code meeting

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so allow the property owner to come back with more documentation. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion passes for your see you next month. Thank you. >> Next item on the agenda is 7.4 Four is for the address 10802 Northeast 9th

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Avenue for case number CE-26-0153. Stefan and Elaine Smith. Um, they were found to be in violation of section 16.14.1 double fee permits construction dumpster placed on the property without first obtaining permits. I'm happy to report

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that they have since obtained a permit. And onto the record, I would like to submit PWM26-00004 uh permit for a dumpster. Fines have been paid and they're now in compliance. >> It's in place. Everything is >> paid. Yes. Compliance.

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>> Close the case. Yeah, >> that was the case. >> In the case of C26-0153, uh, violation had occurred. Things have been settled. They've come into compliance. I move that we close the case. >> I'll second. >> All in favor?

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>> I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes 40. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> The next The next case is 7.6 six and it's for the address

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173 Griffin Boulevard. It's for case number CE-25-0839 Church of the Resurrection. We are asking for a continuence of this case um with permission from the building official. Um

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this property um is brought before this board because they have been violated for section section. 4.2.1 structural reertification of existing buildings that are 40 years and older. Um however

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they did do the reertification only. They did it for the wrong building. They have several buildings on the property. So we would the building official asked that we give them more time to be able to resertify the correct building which is the church building

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>> and a little bit about the resertification. This is a Miami date county ordinance which is section 8.11. Buildings are required to be certified if they a certain size and age. >> Which building is not yet done? the

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church itself, the church building >> unafraid of >> they have hired official >> right they've they have hired an architect they are working with an architect I saw the report that they did the only problem was that in his reertification report they did one of

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the buildings on the property and didn't do the other one but they are working with the architect to do the other reertification so we are asking the board uh to respectfully give them more time um to be able to do Would

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June work? >> Second. >> Could we postpone it till June? Will that give you enough time to get >> 30 days? Is >> Yes, ma'am. >> Could you please Okay. Yeah, we um did this resertification on the little

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house. It's a residential building. Uh we received the documentation with that address but the church um >> address >> address is is corrected and it has been what it is now since 2015. So it was a miscommunication or or mistaken

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documents. We exactly don't know what it is. We already had the inspection from the engineer for the church and we're working on minor concrete repair. So we do ask for 30 >> I apologize. I do need you to identify yourself and what your relationship to

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the church. >> Okay. I'm sorry. Yes. Uh my name is Diana Arana and I'm a part of the best um the church best and here is with me father Leonel Ortes the director of the church. So yeah, we if we can get the 30 30 days

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extension that would be >> back at our June code board meeting and letting us know this, you know, the status is it complete at that point etc. That'll give you enough time. >> Yes, thank you. Yeah. >> Yes, that's fine. We'll we'll just

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report um compliance or non-compliance or ask for more time if they need it. Okay. In case number C25-0839, uh, the violation has occurred, but the property representative is asking for one more month to come into compliance. We can

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table this until June's meeting. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes 40. We'll see you in June. With the permission of the board, we would like to move to old business. Um, the Dawson's were here before uh the

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lady um property owner of the cases, we are going to call, but because they have more cases, their cases are more complex. We'll move to that um lady and then go to them after. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you

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about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> It's an old business and it's uh 6.1 and 6.2. 6.1 for the address 519 Northeast 118th

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Street. is for case number C26-000020 NCC renovations LLC in care of their registered agent Fernandez Candelaria. We are requesting they are requesting for an extension uh found to be in

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violation of section 8.5 and safe structure Miami date county code of ordinance. Uh the building official declared this building unsafe. Um, however, the property owner has taken action and applied for a demo permit. The demo permit has been approved by the

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planning and design review board. Uh, it's in building review as we speak. Uh, they are requesting for an extension so they can go through this process. when someone comes from an extension or pressure washing their room cleaning

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their house I have one feeling but when we're dealing with something that was red tagged January 15th >> may I just add be I'm sorry to interrupt you this ex this extension is being requested by the

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building official >> okay >> makes the difference. I I understand >> because again, I mean, I'm looking at we're two weeks away from hurricane season. >> You take a look at these pictures. It's not going to take much of a wind

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event to send stuff on flying and that narrow >> and I guess I seem to remember in February, I'm getting ahead of myself again. May I ask you to introduce yourself and your relationship to the property? >> Yes. I'm Agina Fernandez and I'm part of

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the I'm one of the owners of a company that owns the property. >> Were you Were you here a few months ago? >> It was here a few months ago. Yes. >> Because I remember that your knowledge about the condition of this house kind of evolved after you bought it, right?

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>> Yes. >> It was too, you know, lot was too small. You couldn't do what you wanted. You didn't try to figure out what you >> It was a little a little harder than I thought. Planning basically. >> I think you were talking about overgrown stuff and and all that stuff, right?

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>> The we had we have two violations actually. Uh what one of those is all which is the following item in the agenda is the trash. We removed that trash uh a week after and we are maintaining the property next month. >> And then what happened after that? Was

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it evolved when it's like we just got to take this thing down? Is that kind of what you >> We needed to sell a property to have the money to build a new house. >> Uh that being >> You guys have the one in Biscane Park that you're doing and all that, right? >> What was it? >> Did you have like another You had a couple properties.

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>> Yes, I live in Biscane Park. I own the property that is right in front of my house. We did that house and we couldn't sell it. So, right now we are renting it, but we needed to sell that house in order to build a new one. The new one we're going to keep it. So, we are designing already. uh we are at least uh

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going through the plans because we know that it's going to take some time for us to go through that process >> is that I remember just like you said Michael where you had concerns not sure exactly what you were going to do with the property you couldn't build what you

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really wanted >> and I wonder that that didn't sort of slow down your sense of urgency >> no it did >> because the application is only in >> and I want few days. >> I want to clarify something. I didn't know that the structure Yeah. >> The application was only turned in a few

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days before the actual deadline for the permit. All the missing documents that are listed, are they still missing or have they been? >> Um, if I >> Most of them have been furnished and this is why the building official asked for the um extension himself because

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some of their documents are not going to come from them. They're going to have to go to the county. They're going to have to it's a longer process. It will take them some time to get everything together. So, they do need the time. >> And I want to clarify. >> You said we're two weeks away from hurricane.

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>> No. And I understand that and it concerns me as well. I just want to you to know that uh >> suggesting >> you're suggesting that we give them more time to be able to to get all the documentation together. They cannot demo the property if they do not have the

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correct documentation. I'm the one that is interested in demolishing the property. Trust me. >> The seat of the ball is there. How long? >> He has no control over what happens with the county. Durm has been backed up for a while now. And without that, anything

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official can't do anything. They have to wait for the county to issue the documentation that's required. and knowing that I had a meeting today with Durham because of course I'm new in this process and it's really really complicated. I did the septic tank

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abandonment which is with health department that we did already. I did the the cop the FBL um connection. Uh I couldn't get them to send me the the certificate where it says that they did. So I have

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to go in person. I need to do the same thing with Tik Gas and I need to go to the county today. I had a meeting >> at this point. It's too little too late. But that's why you should have >> No. And I I started >> in April 21st. >> No, no, I started right away by

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>> Hold on a second because that's why I was asking you those questions specifically because I wanted to take the board and myself through the process from the last time that you were here. >> It didn't sound like you were going to demolish the house. It's been trying to figure it out.

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>> No, but right after our meeting. >> I understand that. >> Tell that I had to do it. >> Okay. And then and then and then that process formulated, you know, around that time and there's the things that you had discussed that take more time, more effort, more frustration to get

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done. Right. >> And then now you're in this process that you are, >> you know, um full steam ahead on, right? >> Correct. >> Yes. >> And that's what you're doing right now. But it was an evolving process that was coupled by not being able to sell his

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house and the house being too small for >> no after our meeting. No, I I decided that right away and I started right away but it truly takes time and of course I'm doing it myself because there is no permit that will take this process >> and then and then Dorene th those

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documents were submitted after she did what you know the decision that she made. She's been working with the village, >> has been very diligent. She's been in village hall building department several times. She's come for consultations. She's um gone to the county. She's done

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what she's supposed to do. >> So, it's not it's not this resident, this homeowner that's asking for the extension. It's our village that's >> that is saying that >> okay, >> need to allow this process, >> right, >> to do it in 30-day increments. So,

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>> 30 days is not enough. I was going to say recommend I've already put down here 60 days. I I put days >> I just know what it took. Let me just for a minute. >> Yes. So >> to get a gas line put in so I can get my

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generator put in. >> So um >> durm is backed up by three months. Uh so 60 days is good. We can come back for a progress report. >> July 15th. Well, July 20th is the next I was just going by um the uh

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>> agenda >> agenda for for TNC PND. >> Good point. >> Been approved by PND. So >> we just waiting for Durm. >> Okay. >> What's our next hearing? >> I mean um in July

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>> July 15th. >> Okay. >> So by July 14th just come back with the >> progress report. Yeah. >> Report. Okay. >> Do that. Can I make a motion, please? >> Thank you. >> On case number C-26-000020, um on the recommendation of the um

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building inspector to postpone to table this until for a progress report until um July 14th. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes 40. We will see you in July. >> Thank you. Thank you so much. I

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appreciate that. Uh >> yes, I Yes, I do. onto the record. Item number 6.9.2. Same address, same property owner. This is for case number CE-26-000021.

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Found to be in violation of section 8.4.10, accumulation of trash, junk, and debris, leaving a non living plant material, and stagnant water. Property has been cleaned up. They cleaned up two days after the hearing.

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um and they paid the $500. We are asking the board to close this case. >> Yeah, I've noticed that too. Um and I'd like to make a motion and then let you know something because >> on case number C-26-0021 that the property is in compliance and close the case.

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>> Second. >> Um >> I I >> we oppose. Motion passes 4 >> or you get cited again loose. >> Mhm. >> The >> the tarp the blue tarp. Okay. Yes. >> Secured or removed

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>> or removed. Okay. I will do so. >> Otherwise, >> yeah. >> No, I'll do it tomorrow. I'll send somebody tomorrow. Thank you so much for your understanding and I'll see you soon in July.

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>> I think the thing that is most unfortunate while I understand the logic behind not allowing the construction films without either a demo or a build permit. It has the obvious downside that first

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the neighbors have to live with this and then again it does not much of a wind sense of you know I I would really like to see the commission move >> maybe we could have this

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>> yes Uh, do we have a couple of residents waiting? Yes. >> The next one, two, three, four items. 6.3, 6.4, 6.5, and 6.6.

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Property addresses 842 Northeast 121st Street. Property owners are Coupins Investments, Inc. taking care of their registered agent M. Fuentes and Company. The case numbers are 02-08502851

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>> 0208 55. >> That's two cases in one. 02-0852-0856. Now, these property owners are here because um we received a request from a title company that's trying to sell a property

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in um the the the city of North Miami. However, that property was owned by this couple years ago >> and >> never no Therefore, you're recommending that we

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don't release lean until there's some proof that there was payment made. >> Correct. >> Okay. All right. >> And unfortunately, we are holding up a sale in the city of North Miami. When it comes to a settlement document, that's just showing where monies are allocated >> are being allocated. Correct.

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>> It wasn't a rece. It wasn't a check. >> Right. >> If you would identify yourselves and your relationship to the problem. >> I'm Dave Afro David Dawson. Um, helping investments. My wife Nessie. >> Yeah.

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You see where we are at this great >> Yeah. I can tell you what's going on. Well, as far as I think there's only one little glitch on this is that when we purchased the property, of course, it was in deplorable conditions. You know, the roof had caved in, the

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walls had caved in, and I guess Dan had hand this had this ongoing debate with the village over garbage on his front yard. So, the big deal to me was, first of all, these were not our violations, right? You can speak right into >> It's so loud. >> I apologize.

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>> But it's so loud. >> Okay. Um, so these were not our violations. And the village said, "Well, we're going to work with you on this." So, it took us forever to put new roofs, new windows, new electric, plumbing, everything to it. And then we paid for

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everything. We went before the board and then we had already paid $113,000 to our attorney in his escrow account because we didn't know how it was all going to shake out and we had an agreement with the homeowner, the previous homeowner, Dan, that if the village didn't comply

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that these were all of his violations, not ours. Um, so we finally got to that point and on our closing statement it shows that those funds were collected from him but not given to us. So those

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those funds were taken from us by the attorney and and it was for the point of being paid. until when Miss Grant said that they didn't have a record of it, I said I wanted them the village to go back to your financial records to see

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because I knew I didn't to my knowledge I you know on our closing statement you know how it says you're going to pay your mortgage and the attorney collects the money for your mortgage and pays it. It literally says the money was taken from his proceeds to pay the fines for

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the village of Biscane Park. But if it was given to us, it would have shown the funds going to us, you know, and then our responsibility to pay. So we were told that they were paid. So I think between the attorney, he's now looking at his escrow account from 10 years ago

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because up until right now, we had no idea. But then we knew that there was some issues with um Dan and his other properties in North Miami. So, we hired um attorney Koviello because he's a zoning attorney to come in and he did

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the zoning and he negotiated with the attorney in North Miami to make sure that we would never have any associations with his leans or any property uh any problems with his stuff. So, we had to then pay attorney's fees

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and the city of North Miami to make sure that all of his stuff never came back our direction. And so, we have receipts from um the attorney for North Miami, attorney for here to make sure that this

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something like this never happened. So now we're the only thing that we're going back to is um trying to have the attorney look at his escrow account because it was clearly not given to us and he he was told you know I mean he

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thought he paid it. So I'm just asking the village to get all of their receipts from that time from when the monies were collected from us and they should compare their escrow account however the village does it with the attorneys

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because the if if you're searching for us to be paying it. Not that not that we were saying we weren't supposed to pay it but we paid it to the attorney. So if someone was searching for a check from us, it wouldn't be in our name anyway.

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It would be probably in Dan's name, Dan Pomerance, and it would be >> I don't think we get a whole lot of >> Well, it shouldn't have been any talking about the closing document is dated 2014.

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>> Yeah. >> Mr. Dawson came here to ask for relief on those lean two years later. So they were aware that le these leans were not paid also. >> No, but that's when they agreed to it. Remember the village of Biscane Park won't meet with you until everything

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like we can't um ask for relief from those leans until the whole property is into compliance. So first we had to pull all the permits, go through all the renovations and everything. So we were not remiss in waiting those two years.

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We follow the process. 20,000 would have come from in the closing statement two years before you got the >> Well, it would have been for 80,000. So, did did we get a $82,000 check in 2014? >> An interesting point that she brings up

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the $20,000 that shows up on the closing documents. How did it show up on the closing documents when they haven't even they hadn't had the relief two years? >> Right. In 2014, it was 82,000. Right. There was a pro. >> I don't know how it went, but you got a

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copy of the closing statement. >> You have a copy of it? >> You don't have a copy? I have a copy here. >> Right. >> But if regardless of what the closing statement says, if the village says they don't have the money, we don't have the

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power to release. How can they How can they show you they never received what they never received? >> Everyone has a bank statement. I mean, that's what they're asking the attorney. I'm asking my attorney to go through it and say, "You collected the 20,000."

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>> The way we document these cases is when we receive the money, we release the leans. Miss Dawson is a real estate agent, savvy real estate agent. If she had four leans on her property that were not released, she would have come back here and made sure those leans were

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released. She paid the $20,000. Can you answer the question, Miss Dawson? Can Yeah. >> Or Mr. Dawson? >> Um, >> if you came here in 2016 and asked for a reduction on the 20,000 and and Miss Dawson is saying that on the closing statement, it was it was uh the money

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changed hands and they were supposed to take care of the lean and the lean at that time was $82,000. Can you explain why the closing statement says $20,000 when he didn't when Excuse me. >> No, you asked me could I >> No, but I was I was done. Did do you

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know why it is that the closing documents that you're showing to us from 2014 have the number 20,000 instead of 82,000? >> First of all, they weren't our leans. So, >> but I'm not ask I'm asking I don't know how it worked. In fact, I don't even

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remember it hardly. I mean, this is now we're we're 12 years later and we're in just as much shock as anyone. >> That stage they were 82. They weren't. >> No, but they had already been worked out. We we when when we got together

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with the village and the village manager years later after you bought the property. >> No, before we bought the property, we said we don't want to touch a property if it's going to be a hot mess. We met with the village before we even owned the property and said, "How are we going

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to how do we approach this? How does this whole thing work?" You know, so we're all we're asking for is that we I in fact, I talked to the attorney before we came over. I said, "I'm in just as much shock because the closing statement says it was taken care of. We have no

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clue what happened." >> Well, closing statement from 2014 way back then. And I do know that we didn't release until that's part that's part of our whole >> Right. Right. >> Right. >> Always.

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>> Right. >> Don't hear them until fine reduction until >> they've already had their fine reduction. It's not our job to release their leans. That's something they have to work out with.

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>> We didn't even know it was existing. We're here to say we're in just nud shock and we're we're okay with trying to get it done. >> So when we searched for payment, we searched in every name of every name that's been on the title for the last 20 years.

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>> Dorian, I I I asked Miss, but she didn't remember. But let me ask you from your search of the village records, because I'm still confused about this. If if the property was sold in 2014 and there's a closing statement that you were provided that indicated that there was a lean of $20,000 on that lean that was supposed

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to be paid for by this Mr. Pomerance. How is it that in 2016 Mr. Dawson came to the village to ask for a fine reduction and got it reduced from $82,000 down to $20,000. Is there have you been able to figure out that answer from your your records? be able

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to answer that question >> and I was able to figure that out as I was looking at the documents and she sent me that closing document um later. >> I looked at the dates and it didn't add up to me just as it doesn't add up to you.

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>> Okay. So, you don't have an answer. So, you don't have an answer from our records. >> Okay. Hold on. See, there's a possibility that there may have been another lean on the property that was $20,000 cuz I saw a note and if you look at the document that I submitted from the notes in the

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system that it says $5,000 paid. The case number is not on this list. It's on a different case number. Now, I wasn't there and I'm not accusing them of anything. Anything would have been possible. I >> what I wanted to to to do is stay with these leans

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>> that I know are attaching to that property to help >> a person to sell their property and clean their title because these leans are outing that title. >> Right. I understand that. But so >> dollar payment that that David Koviello or Michael Scott PA says was made to the

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city of North Miami. those leans that property do with the village of Biscane Park >> none of those leans are of the date I checked them one by one >> so Dorian just so I understand because of my confusion uh the so you're saying

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perhaps that $20,000 on that closing statement may have been for the satisfaction of another lean >> possible >> okay >> otherwise otherwise somebody's going to see in the future >> where did they get the number Yeah, I was going to say I would think that your

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attorney or your closing agent at the time should have the documentation provided to us. We'll have something else. Right now, we have still have a file with the county and my recommendation is to have stay in place until

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>> right and we're not even arguing that. We're not asking you to release it. We're saying we had no clue. But I want to make it clear, the order that you thought was happening is not how it happened because I waited through maybe 15 emails saying there was one that said

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when our meeting was. So I wanted you to go back to the meeting notes. >> And and did you see where was the fine came down to 20,000? >> Yes, I did. I've submitted it to the board. >> Okay. But that was not in order. >> I know. But that was not in order of what they said. It didn't come down in

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2014 and then we waited till 2016. I think I don't even think the meeting was until 2015 or something. >> That's January 2016. January 11, 2016. >> Okay. I thought I thought it was June. Okay. So, anyway, so that's what's going

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on. We're clueless. We're shocked. >> These are the minutes for the meetings for the agenda for sorry, the agenda and the signing sheet where Mr. Dawson signed into that meeting. So, the bottom line is everybody's trying to just untangle this to figure out what's going on because you got you got to you got a

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cloud on your title. It shouldn't impact this North Miami thing because they should be separated and we got to figure out if we have a lean or not, if you paid it or not. And that's where we're at right now. >> Copied their attorney. He hasn't replied. He hasn't answered. He hasn't given us any explanation. But I would

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>> But he just got back from vacation, I think yesterday. >> Our >> It already has been. There's nothing this committee, >> right? Our our our attorney's statement was there's no receipt, no check for $20,000, no releases. That was his.

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>> But have you checked all of your state? >> Yes. >> You can show your bank state. >> Yes. >> Okay. Because it's not unusual for things to get misfiled >> I I went to lens to >> Well, no, that's what I said. As soon as you told me, we actually thought we were

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um it was a mistake because we We haven't had any issues for 12 years. So, we didn't know what was going on. So, anyway, we're not even arguing it. >> So, at this point, just say I mean, there's >> just give us an extension to where we're

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trying to find out where it where it is. >> We're not the lean's in place. So, there's nothing for us to even do. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> I mean, it's just >> Oh, okay. There's there's nothing for this committee to do because we didn't >> those leans will stay on that property.

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The leans will stay on the property. And >> when you say plural, the 20,000 >> 20,000. Yeah. >> Well, the rules for reductions are if they do not pay when they were told to pay, the lean reinstates to the original amount.

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>> No way. So if we find that this there is if the lawyer brings a council check and okay here they paid I'll be the first one to release these leans. >> Now if there is no evidence that that reduction was successfully done and paid

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for the lean has reinstated to the over $82,000 and that's what we'll be working for going forward. And then we they would they would be eligible to apply. >> They can apply for relief because they did come into compliance. They did. And I saw the receipts. I saw the permits of

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the work you did um on the house. Good job. However, you bought the property as is. You brought you bought a broken property and all that responsibility is on the new owner, right? If you buy I'm saying the point though of the leans and

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this is just him fighting village hall. Okay. I can understand if the leans were something that was it it hurt other people and it was a problem. This guy had some garbage on his front porch like leans are leans. It doesn't matter what

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it's relevant to saying we are the ones that made immediate effort to make the village better to clean up everything. We are in compliance. We did it immediately. >> That's great. But you bought the property as is Nancy. You you know that.

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But I'm saying that I'm saying for what we agreed to do is to pay something that we didn't do. >> Miss Dawson, you really need to move on this. >> We have no proof of payment. We cannot authorize any of the lease. Correct. >> And in fact, Miss Grant exped.

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Yeah, I'd like to make a motion on case number 02850 to 085852. >> What is that? >> What are those? >> Excuse me. I have a question for you. >> What are those? >> What are those? I mean the case number

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>> that case number but for what >> for what the I mean four different that are on property >> that um >> oh okay >> no that no action is to be taken by the

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second >> okay >> okay >> the next case is 7.3 for the address. Same property owners for the address 901 Northeast 109th

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Street. It's for case number C-26- 0079. Um Alfred and Nancy Dawson. Um they were found to be in violation of section 8.4.3.1F tarps on a roof. Uh we are happy to

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report that the tarp has been reved from the roof and this case is now in compliance. We asking the board to close this case. 7.3 >> abide by the extension date. No problem. >> Yes, >> we did. >> I will make a motion.

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>> I do. I just want to say that the only reason we didn't take the tarp off is the only reason we didn't take the tarp off is because it was raining. So, we didn't want to damage the house. But >> I'm closing the case. Oh, you're telling us the roof is damaged? Come issue a violation for the damaged roof. You just

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told me. >> No, I'm saying we didn't want it to damage the rain. If we took the roof, the tarp off, then it would stick inside the house. >> Number C26-0079. A violation had occurred. The property

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owners are now in compliance. Close the case. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Yeah, we already have a permit or applied for >> get it. >> All right. >> Thank you. Thank you.

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>> I'll stay in touch. >> Thank you for being very proactive again. >> The next gosh, >> it next item is 6.7 for the address 10916 Northeast 9th

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Court. The case number is CE25-870 for Glenn Rexo. Uh we were coming for an intent to lean found to be in violation of chapter 5.6.7 design standards for off- streetet parking. The driveway has been missing an approach. Um

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the property owner has applied for a permit. They have been approved by PND and they are um they still owe the $500. So we are requesting for an extension of time so they can go through building review uh on this permit

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30 days number C-25-0 I mean 870 uh to grant the extensions 30 days to the June 17 >> uh June 15th

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>> June 15th >> second. >> Next item is 6.8. >> Oops. >> I'm sorry going too fast. >> Discussion if I could because daily fines have already been accumulated.

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>> We're going to extend till >> right because they are working on they they have a permit in place and they're working on it. We can extend the comply by date. It does remove the accumulating fines. The 500 still owes. They comply

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to by the date you give them and they only pay the 500. >> My only concern is we have been adding the caveat of work needs to be completed by uh permit expiration date.

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in lie of the fact that giving an extension date to June 15th. Can we not all how do we feel about adding permitation? Um I don't have a problem for that other than

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>> uh bear with me. >> I don't think so. >> No. >> Okay. Well, then I'd like to admin my uh motion to uh extend to uh the 30 days till June the 15th. Um

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to have the permit pulled, issued, and to have all work completed by uh >> duration of the permit. >> Amen. or 250 >> or or 250 per day to commence

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thereafter. >> The second >> I will amend myself. >> All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion passes for zero. >> Thank you, Jenny Dy.

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>> The next item is 6.8. Next item 6.8 for the address 11853 Griffin Boulevard case number C-25-0921 Lewis Iraori Rafa Harris. We were going to ask for an intent to

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lean found to be in violation of section 16.14.1 double fee permits or a construction dumpster that was parked in the front yard of the property without first obtaining permits. We are glad to report that um they are now in compliance. The

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double fee permits have been paid and they have applied for a permit and I would like to enter onto the record PDMP26-005. Um, they did have a fine that run from the compliance date

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to today because they just got this permit today in the amount of 7,250 and we will file an affidav compliance for the double fee permit fee that was paid. However, we asked them to come back and ask for relief on the 7,000 at

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the next hearing. questions. We have a motion. They've complied. They have all their >> they need to if they so choose, >> right? They agreed to come and apply for relief coming.

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>> Make a motion in place that the property has come into this dumpster um and to close the case. However, the daily fine outstanding daily fine of

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7,250 shall remain >> relief. So we can't close the case until they come and uh resolve the money. >> Please restate the motion. they've come into compliance and

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by having a double permit be uh the assessment and administrative piece. >> All right. If the permit has been issued, >> yes, >> was issued today because it was an after the fact permit. So, it's been issued.

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However, they have an outstanding amount of $7,000 that they'll come back and ask for. Correct. case. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Right. The daily fine stops with compliance today, >> right?

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>> So automatic. >> Correct. >> So what >> stop? >> Correct. Well, she did apply for reduction and scheduled for June 15 to come back for reduction.

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>> No action. The cases Right. >> I am so sorry. >> Partial >> partial compliance. >> We have a motion for new action. Second favor. The next two items are 7.7 7.8. We do

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have a representative on Zoom from Brazil. The address is 11315 Northeast 9th Court. First case number CE26-0165. Property owner is PRBP4 LLC in care of

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their registered agent Raldon Alvarez Law PLLC. We are asking for an extension on this case. They were found to be in violation of section 18.6.13 temporary construction fence. Um the

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temporary construction fence um is a permit has expired. However, um we are requesting for um an extension on this one because they are working on other permits um which are moving well.

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Um so we're asking that they you give them time to renew this permit. >> 60 days. >> 30 days. 30 is good, right? >> Yeah, that's fine. We can work with 30. Oh, we have they have to swear you in

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here. >> Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, I do. >> So, repeat what you said. >> Your name and your relationship to the property.

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>> My name is Kyla Gereda. Uh, and I am the project manager uh and legal representative for this property. So you feel that 30 days give him till June 15th and that should work.

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>> Corre I think 30 days is good. And I would just like to point out that um within the 30 days if they can do repairs to that fence it has some uh that the mesh it has little holes and missing in some parts. Uh the permit will be renewed but we still need to

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repair it. >> The green mesh you mean? >> Yes. Perfect. We will take care of that. >> So, what's going there? Another sugar cube house. >> So, warehouse.

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>> If I may make a motion on case number S26-0165 grant the uh request to send June 15. I'll second. >> All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion

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passes. Brazil. Michael, >> we did it the same. The next item 7.8 is the same address and same property owner. This is for case number C-26-0166 to be in violation of section 8.4.1

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over grown grass. Uh happy to report that this case is now in compliance. We're asking the board to close it. >> No questions. I'd like to make a motion on Case number C-26-166. >> I'll second. All in favor? I. Any

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oppose? Motion passes. >> That's all for me, right? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dorine. Thank you everyone. I appreciate. >> Thanks for coming. Next item is 7.5 for the address 11120

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Northeast 10th Avenue for the case number CE-25-0571 Biscane Park 1112022 LLC in care of their registered agent RA Kennedy William H Equire

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found to be in violation of section 16.15.2 to landlord registration. Um we're happy to report that they have paid for their landlord registration. They are now registered landlords in the village. Case is in compliance. We're

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asking for you to close it. >> Nobody has any questions. In case number C25-0571, a violation had occurred. The property owner has now come into compliance. Close the case.

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All in favor? >> Any oppose? Motion passes 40. >> Next item is 7.9 for the address 11659 Griffin Boulevard. The case number is CE25-0842 BP Apartments LLC in care of their

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registered agent London Octavia. Um they were found to be in violation of section 4.2.1. 2.1 structural residification of an existing building 40 years or older. Um there's a request from the building

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official for an extension on this property. Mr. London was in the in village hall today and he spoke with the building official. The building official would like for you to give him some time because there are some repairs that need to be done with the property before it

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can be reertified. We're asking for a 60-day extension. I'll make a motion on CE-25-0842 to grant the um 60-day extension until July >> 15th 15th um for the repairs to be done and the

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certification to be complete. >> I'll second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion passes 4 Z. The next item is 7.10. Did we do this one? I think we did. It's

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done. I'll move on to 711. Address is2035 Northeast 5th Avenue. Case number CE 26-0164. Richard Bernan Host Ricardo and Juan

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Costa. We're asking for an order of enforcement found to be in violation of section 5.3.4D objects in the swell which is a right of way. There are concrete blocks installed or maintained within the soil area the public right of way.

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No compliance, no permit in the system. >> Wait, you talking about those little triangles? >> Did you knock on their door, Raphael? Did you talk to the homeowner? We followed the due process. So, we did courtesy notice, notice of violations.

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Today, I called um the they didn't answer, so I left a voice message. So, I haven't heard from them since and I know a resident spoke with them regarding these violations, but they haven't come forward. I

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>> think what stands out to me is it wasn't straight to violate They had the courtesy notice that you gave over a month and then before you wrote the notice of violation. >> Yeah. So I don't I don't know.

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>> And before now >> this is a simple twist. Both of them are very simple >> and those triangular ones are deemed to be illegal by the county because if somebody falls and hits their head, it's even more dangerous because of the point

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on traumatic brain injury. You've had much more injuries. That's why they've changed domed once. >> And the other reason is those rightways are pathways for an emergency vehicle. So those triangles are not safe for

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tires. They have to be domes that are my own. >> Further question number 164 violation third. All in favor?

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>> Any opposed? Motion passes. Next item is 7.12 for the same address and the same property owner. The case number is CE-26-000083. Uh we are asking for an order of enforcement. They are non-compliant found to be in violation of section

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16.13.1 exterior painting. There's no permit in the system for the color approval for the roof. Um, they have installed a roof with an

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approved color. >> Is it a new roof or did they paint an existing roof? >> It looks like they painted it. >> They will be changed. The commission's in the middle of changing the wording

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since we haven't required a permit in quite a while until order approval, but apparently the system not upg. So on this on this case that we're hearing right now is the roof color and this one

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correct approved and it was given a clearance. >> Correct. >> Even for the roof. >> Even for the roof and and if you go outside of that you can but then you have to get actual approval. >> And that's where they fell off.

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>> Yeah. My colors are not the approved colors. I had to go in front of them with the colors and get their their approval. >> My clarification color that is not on the chart. >> That's correct.

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>> There's no charge, but you still have to get approval for the exact color. There is a $50 If there are no other questions, I'd like to make a motion on case number C-26-000083 that a violation has occurred. Give the

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prop I mean assess a fine of $250, an administrative fee of $250 for the property um owners to come into compliance by uh requesting a hearing before the planning and design

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committee. uh by June the 17th or a $250 per day uh thereafter. >> I'll second. All in favor? >> I >> I pass. And the next item we will enter onto the

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record is 7.2 for the property address 820 Northeast 119th Street. It's for case number C-25-0642 for Anthony Tavarez is they were found to be in violation of section 8.4.3.1

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uh for a dirty roof. We're happy to report that they have cleaned their roof are now in compliance and we're asking the board to close this case. >> That was on um 7.2 >> 7.2

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Another question I'd like to make compliance. >> All in favor? I motion >> so we have a gentleman on Zoom. This case was already ruled on. This is Mr. Glenn Wetzel. Is that >> Hello. >> It's me.

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>> Okay. Uh, the board has already ruled on your case. Um, >> what was the what was the case? I mean, I'm not sure. It said I had a violation. I had um I was supposed to get a get a, you know,

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have a uh >> get a um >> Mr. Wo, one second. >> Sure. Could you could you wait to be sworn in, please? >> Sure. >> Please raise your right hand. >> Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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>> Yes. >> So, um the clerk can will read um the action that was taken by the board. >> It was 6.7. Go ahead and read the the order. She will read the order of the board. Okay. They gave you 30-day extension

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until June 15th to have the permit issued. >> Actually, what happened was I think the permit was issued. >> No, it's not issued. The permit is approved. >> It was approved by PND. So, now is in

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the review process. So, you have to wait another week or two to have the permit issue. Okay. >> Okay. >> The permit's not issued till it's paid for. Okay. I thought it was paid for. >> So could So basically, sir, um it is

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that you have an you're given an uh till June the 15th. >> Okay. >> And uh for an extension to June the 15th to obtain the permit, but the um driveway is to be completed by the expiration of the permit date. So once

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you uh obtained the permit, that expiration date, you need to have the driveway completed or they'll start a fine we'll start a fine of $250 per day thereafter. >> All right. >> But I'm in but I'm in I mean I'm going through the process. So everything is going okay.

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>> Right now you just have 30-day extension. >> Raphael say you could come in tomorrow to pay for the permit fee. >> I am in central Florida. I travel for my business. But yeah, I'll be in there. I'll be in there soon. >> No problem. >> All right. Appreciate it. Sorry I was late to this. I'm in the middle of

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>> All right. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. Bye. Bye. >> So, we have 7.13. >> Okay. 13. Last case on the agenda is 7.13 and it's for case number 12085 West

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Dixie Highway is for case number CE25-0840 for Horatio Dar. We were going to ask for an order of enforcement in this case. It's another case in violation of chapter section. 4.2.1 structural reertification.

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We have a request from the building official to give him a 60-day extension. Um, Mr. Horatio has some he has a language barrier. So, there's some things that they need to take time to

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work with him uh on. Um, he is talking to um architect who is going to certify the building, but the building official who has met with him and they would like to give him some time. >> Is this an apartment building? >> Yes. Uh not a park. It's

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>> it's the one behind >> Alistori Paress. >> Yes. >> We only discovered was in Biscane Park a few years ago. >> Sarah knew it was in Biscane Park. Tell me about >> been a while. >> There's something behind building. I'd

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like to go ahead and make a motion on case number CE-25-0840 uh to grant the extension um until the July 15th uh 2026 year. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? Any opposed? Motion passes.

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>> This is forformational purposes um only for the board. Um, I would like to um let the board know and make them aware that we identified seven properties in the village of Biscane Park that needed reertification. We've been updating the commission every

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month on the progress. Uh so far we've had two approvals. Uh we have three pending and we have one building that is being worked uh they have permits in the system to recon convert to a single family house. Okay, we have minute. No, I'm

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good. >> And those were all the cases we brought before the board tonight. >> Has everybody had a chance to read the minutes? >> Yes. >> Any changes, corrections, etc., etc. I read 200

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they were 15 months >> 15 months for four months. So the the total amount was $1,000 need to pay the money that Jamie Oh, okay. Bye. >> Yeah, I wouldn't have seconded it

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because >> Oh, that's what I have. No. By Janie. Okay. Gotcha. Gotch. No. Am I on script? 17. >> Which one?

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>> 7.3. >> Yeah, I think it would have been June 17th because that's when the next meeting is. I have critical questions. Need to put Vanessa on the spot. As I will not be in the area as of next Monday,

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is there any possibility you can have the orders done by about three on Friday? Not. >> Yeah. Um Should we get a second on the >> minutes? I think I've done that before.

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Thank you. >> Okay, I'll make a motion to approve the April minutes with the changes as given tonight. A second. >> I'll second.

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>> All in favor? >> I motion passes 4 Z. I also want to let the board know that in July I'll be gone the first three weeks of July >> by three >> or give them to Dale.

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us would be okay. >> All right. Just keep us posted if you want, >> right? >> You know, if it's like, no, no, you're up to here, just let us know. >> Yeah. If she's not able to, we'll we'll bring them to the >> And again, thank you.

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This had some really interesting situations. Thank you. Have a motion to adjurnn if >> No, just because I'm not going to believe that it's there, but I mean there are other

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properties with them that have like the ones with where they're in process construction is not going to >> deterior. Um but um I am glad to see some properties coming in compliance getting

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around it >> right >> when all of when it's completely gutted >> right >> we have been working we have been working with that property owner she's been in village hall the last two weeks at least every day

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because we we called her endlessly I lost it and I I I had had it with her but finally things fell in place and >> hopefully after all this is done in beautiful condition that the garbage

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place >> right because she'll have in your driveway. Uhhuh. >> And the garbage containers. >> Yes. >> They will pay attention to that. I you know I understand the logic

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want a demo or a build permit before permit for construction in the meantime wander on the property any number of things

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are a little less likely to happen. >> Well maybe it be something we could have there that you know regard is for a specific period of time action is taken then we can start >> but um or somehow

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>> PNV can approve that our planning and design >> or I don't know how that works but it needs to have like a set time and if action's not taken a good point instead of saying your demo or building plans have to be in before

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you get the >> give somebody 30 days >> 30 case. I will explain what happened with that particular case was PND approved for her to put a fence on one side of the property. When building got to review it, there was they said no,

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no, no. The the code says it has to be the circumference of the property. So that's what delayed that. >> So it had to go back for another approval and now it went through building review and passed. >> It's almost like the Tarquish.

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Yes. >> There is a house on Griffin and it's had a tarp on it or an unfinished roof. >> We've seen it >> three years. >> We've seen it. >> Structures just sought for the past two or three years, >> right? And this is now the biggest issue

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we have started working with. As you can see, we are bringing more and more properties for unsafe structure. We are just going after them because they come in, get permits, permits expire, and those properties are sitting there. I have one right on 117th Street. That

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property has been 1106 Northeast 117. It has been in construction for as long as I've been working here. Actually, when I came here, it was in construction. I remember Commissioner Kennedy reported that property for violations so many times. >> Construction has

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>> right. It has >> He doesn't answer the phone anymore. She doesn't answer the phone anymore. She doesn't take my calls. So, I'm about to bring them back. >> The roof finally went in after about 5 hours. >> Permits are expired.

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>> You're about to come back with that um with those cases. Yeah, that's a motion to >> second. >> I thank you. Love