recording. Yeah, it says recording right there. This If you print your name and your address. What address he? Would it be the same? Another
password. I'm just going to give you the hour as possible. What are you here for? What address? 6J. 6J. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Hello. Have you got the password for the
Wi-Fi? You're together. Okay, hi Lane. How are you? Pleasure, gentlemen. Which I I found. Oh, never mind. Gage, which property you here for tonight? Um, so I'm just sitttheast.
Oh, you're just here to watch? Yeah. Okay, that's okay. Hi. How are you? Nobody here for sure. Everybody check Sorry. Hello sir, are you on the agenda tonight? The names, please. The
address. The address. The address, please. 7:30. Okay. Join the team. What you want? Was the about alleyway abandoned? This is the
There's an Here's the bee house. Here's what he wants. There's an alley here. There's an alley. There is an alley that goes between behind the be house. There is a process for abandonment right
away. [Music] We have we have to prove First question would be has the village officially abandoned that that alley and then he I think he backs up to this other alley that goes there's an
alley that goes between the corner house and the bee house that goes all the way down which I think is analment. So there's an entire process. That would be our I guess a hard question to
But there is represent your to pick her up. No, it is raining now. the discussion. Okay. I think the code for
Yeah, that's Yeah, we do have [Music] Any would be like property here 939.
Oh, I think somebody's already here for you. Yeah. All right. So, let's go ahead and get started. Uh, good evening everyone. This is the village of Biscane Park Planning and Designing Design Review Board meeting for Monday, May 5th, 20 or actually
May 12 May 12th, 2025. Correct. Uh, it is now 6:35. Do the roll call. David um uh Scarlett Hammonds, David Grun, Gage Hartung, I'm here as well as Linda from
the building. Second, David Scarlet. All in favor say I. Okay. All right. We'll go to the Excuse me. All right. We'll go um and we'll go to the residents that are here or the applicants that are here and we will uh go in order of the agenda. So,
uh, first will be 5A 739 Northeast 118th Street, single family residence, and everybody checked in. I believe I think we got everybody as they're coming in. Make sure I don't miss anybody. We've already done the three reviews on this. Yes, we we have
we we presenting a smaller pro prop uh project on the property like a smaller house. We we we re we scaled it down a little bit and are submitting a new This is not what we've looked at before. No, it's an
actual change. It's a change. It's a It's a smaller house. Correct. What is what changed? Cuz it's it's just smaller. We scaled it down like 20%. We have a Do we have a picture of what
it looked like the last incarnation? Rodrigo, do you have anything with the original? I I don't um No, I I don't have anything on me with the original one. Let me I find something in my email. But the thing is
is that, you know, through the process, we've looked at all the setbacks. We've looked at the side setbacks, the the you know, we've we've reviewed it three times. So now changing it I'm like what exactly did change? So now we have to go back and look at all the all the side
setbacks setbacks and well we made sure we we we made sure we we have the correct setbacks and the correct second story no more than 30 linear feet of structure. Um the front facade change because it seems like it's one flat roof
across the front like we is that was the part of the original design. Yes. Yes. Yes. Can I see Can I Can I see what you're looking at? Make sure it's the same thing. I am. Excuse me. So, you're looking at this, correct?
Uh, yes. Okay. This is the old house was close to I think 5500. This is closer to 45. Um, so the thing is I'm I'm not comfortable because of the fact that you
were saying that this was exactly what we proved last time and we're we're just looking at it again, but you made significant design changes between the last review and now. And I don't have I don't have the documents of the old versus what you the new I Let me see if
this I'm a little unc concerned about proving something without this is I have the the I don't have the renderings. I have the like the architectural sketches of the previous one. Yeah.
I mean, it's 28 ft high. It's right. There's no There's no roof level changes. It's all one flat roof. This This is This is what we looked at before. This I don't know if we would have gone this far without
having some kind of This is like the definition of a big box. thoughts over there. Yeah, I sorry. I've been looking at like setbacks a lot. This is what we had originally. I mean, it's just one like eyebrow in
the front in the top. So, that middle section got eliminated. Well, it's Yes, it's in my opinion, it's cleaner, but
Oh, just in the table. No, I had there was like a big bump out for the garage or something. Correct. Which created a massive balcony in the front. There is a balcony much
smaller. Like everything is scaled down. The thing, one of the things that concerns me is that you had like this center section of of a second roof height that's not there.
You see there was like Yeah, I I I know what you mean. Yeah. Okay. I mean, like always, we're open to the suggestions that you may have. Well, I mean, my suggestion would be if you're going to make changes like this, come
back with a printed set that we can see in larger size because we're all struggling to look at this with Yeah. My other questions is like these these windows here and and this big one.
This big one here. Yes. What's the opacity of those because those are kind of they're big windows to be in the back in the side of it. So, and when I was looking at the the photos from above, it didn't have any like
special uh delineation of what these you see how like these these windows all visually look the exact same. It's all the first floor window. So, it's not like they be like, "Oh, okay. That's frosted." But that and this double height one. Well, that's the stairs. I
believe it's on the upper part of the stairs. Okay. As the house goes up. The rest are bedrooms. Yeah. Cuz like this would be having being on the second floor with views over it. Unless these were frosted or you did one like horizontal clear story
like this, but maybe higher like closer to that elevation that so that you're not looking down. That would be a thing that I would I would say, hey, this is an issue. Also, this clear space if you put some visual obstruction in the the
back of this that balcony. Besides the the roof height, no, not changing the being gauges comment. That's that's my main comment. The the um the setbacks all look fine. And I
didn't do the math on the calculations, but the calculations look like they're correct even though they're not in like the our version. They're just on on page one. Um, but you're on 50%. This this is the one that's in the culdeac. Correct.
We've been like bunch of different car incarnations kind of. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. This the And it's not an open carport anymore. It's it's actually you got a closed garage. Correct. on on on the west side of the property. Yeah. How it
it originally was like in the previous property that we demolished. Um the other thing that we would need that this doesn't have is it doesn't identify anywhere. Remember the front yard can only have like a max 40% coverage. Um so
your lot calculations in in this part right the area calculations we don't care about but all of these right where we're identifying oh you're at
48.66 right and we also need the separate section that says hey the front yard is this dimension and our driveways and um and sidewalks and everything like that come in under 40%. Okay. Uh of the front yard surface. Yeah, just because
you're going to have to do the driveway under separate permit anyways, but we like to see that separated out for then looking at what the 50% calculation. Okay, not a problem. So, yeah. So, in terms of the windows and and the the
facade, you wanted to see it broken out. I would say windows the back the back obscuring of the balcony. uh some of change from I I I honestly I want to table this and move it back to a
discussion item and have you come in with a printed drawing because to to go through three stages and then come in for a final approval which is usually a rubber stamp because we've already looked at it three times, right? And now you're wanting us to go through and look at every one of these details that we
look at over three meetings. It's not It makes me uncomfortable. Okay. So I would like to pause and say, "Okay, we're going to come back and we're going to look at this at the next meeting as a discussion item." And if at the next discussion item we can move it forward because it's a published item. We approve it. We can approve it at the
next meeting. Okay. Yeah. That's why I was giving the list of four things to I'm just saying it's very hard to like look at and try to catch every detail and that's one of the reasons we have review process that we do. Um, so, um,
the other one did it have, uh, we need to have included in here like the trees survey, which which I think might have been included in the first packages, but it's it's not in this one. And on the the site location,
it doesn't indicate anywhere where like the septic or the AC's would go. So I would say just to kind of air it's the what second floor the uh the creating
privacy screen on the rear balconies looking out over the neighbors the block calculation of the front yard area the locations of ACS and septics and tree survey and then the sixth one would be the roof unulation. Okay. But you you
would like to see the roof shift. Yeah. There'll be some change of at least foot correct gauge. Yes. Yeah. It's like codified but it needs to be at least a one foot. That's in the code. The object the codes basically says no flat top roofs which
Okay. Here, you know. Yeah. And um regarding the septic tank, I mean typically once we have the house approved, then it goes to a septic tank. Contractor would then creates a plan according to the layout of the property.
Yeah. My only thought is this is basically your area for the septic which is your Yeah. Your drain field. Yeah. That's the only area for the drain field. Correct. So it's just okay. It would be good to identify because you have five bedrooms.
good to identify that that area is big enough to hold a five bedrooms. Like they changed that code for it to be. So like it doesn't need to be perfect because that's a different part of the permit process anyways. But just to make sure that we're like, "Oh, okay, cool.
Yeah, we took into account where it was." Okay, that's fine. So I I'll I'll I'll fix let's table this item for the next meeting. I'm okay and I'll I'll fix the issues that we discussed and next time I'll come with the previous
approved one and this new proposal so we can all review it and if and we'll go through the meetings that we have to Okay. Okay. Question. No, it's okay. No, no, no problem. Is there a way we can do 967 since I have if if so I'm not till
the end like the last Yeah that's why you have plans for that or is it something that we are it's planned it's very simple it's just adding but it's a discussion item though correct it's just adding like 60 square feet in the back of the structure okay um can you just wait until we we take every because it's
a discussion item they're on the agenda so they're ahead of you so if you can just wait it would be better that's fine Yep. Motion second say I. I David Scarlet. We're going to do that on the same one.
No, but I don't understand why it's special revision to a bu an existing building purpose. Yeah. Should if it's already an existing building. Okay. So again, it's discussion. So back. All right. Next will be 6A 701
Northeast 19th Street concrete driveway. Sorry to everybody that Hello evening. So, a concrete driveway. Uh-huh. That should be it. The survey that we have those says it marks it as a PA driveway.
It was before, but they said they that they were not approve it. So, uh we did a concrete driveway instead. Okay. So, this instead of paper, it's concrete and it's all along that one side over correct. It's where the existing uh
driveway were, but it was all I don't know what material was, but it's in the same location as the system one, but we did a new one. Okay. So you so you definitely have the lot
coverage. I mean I mean as far as the front yard, you're definitely way underneath your 40%. The only thing that I would question would be to make sure that it's no closer than uh 30 in to the to the um the side property line. There's not a dimension.
No. Yeah, we we checked on that. Um, we took the pictures for the for the full process. So, we should be good. Seconds. David Scarlet. All in favor say I. Hi. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Yep.
All right. Next will be 6B 767 Northeast 14th Street Gravel Driveway. The calculation says uh 26% % on the the driveway portion and then it's not calculated out but David you uh you
calculate that 272 out of 1543 they're fine because he actually has it going deeper than what it is 820 going back to 55 but it looks Like at most it'd be 20 going to back
to 30 and a half then 9 foot one five. So it's actually less. So we have the 30in side setback. It goes down the side. Do you have the do you have the color of the gravel? I
do. I have semi color. Is that okay? Okay, sure. And the and the size of the gravel like what type is it basically? And are we showing the borders the required borders around the perimeters?
Yeah, heated. Let's upload that to the site, please. I motion the borders are detailed somewhere. Uh well he's he indicated it on the standard form with the
determine and that's that's our form or that's his form. Oh, he highlighted. Okay. Because I just, you know, you you're providing a very detailed drawing of the of the gravel, which is nice, but there's just no mention of the borders that are
required. So, we just got to make sure that you're aware that there has to be these these requirement for borders, which David just read and you actually have circled on the sheet. Um, but I would just feel safer if it was actually noted on the drawing when
the inspector goes out and looks that they they see it. You understand the border? I do. I do. So, is it what do you require? 4 inch or 6 inch or what kind of it's four inches around the perimeter.
Okay. And then 16 at the street. Okay. Believe it's actually eight eight inches there. I'm sorry. Eight or around the perimeter. 8 in at the where it joints. Got it. It's not indicated on there. Oh, well, it it is you like circle the top
part. It's just part D of that instruction. So, like normally when people pick gravel, what they do is they just like on this part here, they would they like Yeah, that's what I said. You said eight
four on the sides, eight 16 along the street. Order 4 in deep, 16 inches wide, parallel to the road, 8 in wide along the remaining three sides. Oh, motion to approve. Seconds. Say I I just upload that picture. We'll do.
Thank you. Thank you, sir. All right. Next will be 6D uh 835 Northeast 12th Street, Pergola coverage 39. Thank you, sir. Oh, it's it's like an aluminum roof. It's it's not actually a This
is we're using uh this is a building butter that looks as a facial from the front, but it's actually butter. Um Sure. Um, but it's just along the the back of the house, right? Yes. We stay between the measurements of the house.
So, we're not going uh uh above any line of the house. So, also on the right side, we stay between the the house line and the projection is um um only about eight um Yeah. 8 foot. So, you're like But
you're 33 from the rear. Yes. And you're s like smack in the middle of the line. Is it a is it a a roof structure or is it a per like a It's an insulated panel. It's an insulated panel. NOA approved. Of course, it's a 3-in insulated panel. Uh um and motion to approve. David All
say I approve. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. Bring next. 86E 849 Northeast 117th Street flat roof. Hello. Hi. Hi. So, it's just the flat roofs that are
like on the side and on the back, right? We have a flat roof over the add-on, the garage and add-on portion of nothing to do with the pitched roof or anything. Correct. Okay. Motion to approve. Second favor say I. I. Motion carries. Thank you.
All right. 6F 941 Northeast on 19th Street. Packed windows and doors. You're replacing all the windows throughout both the old and the new. Correct. Yes. Correct. They look like they're just picture or casements or some kind
of horizontal sliders. Everything's rectangular basically. Yes. They're all what color? Um, bronze. Okay. The one arched window. Is that above the door? The new the new one that was added like Yeah, that's that window
was added uh recently above the above the door last time you were here. Um, I think it was the architect. Yep. Okay. motion to approve. Second say I I thank you sir. Fix G. Uh, one Z3
Northeast 115th Street. Fence Where the towel is it marked on the survey? You're just replacing where the existing is. So it's going parallel to the front of the house and on the back it's kind of at a 45 degree angle. Yeah, I'm just replacing what's there now for the side
gates for the side fencing. And they The one side gate looks like it slides in front of the house. Is that the one on the right? The one on the right. Yeah. But it's a it's a set back at the house. Yeah. Okay. But are you are these just the front ones are all louver?
Okay. Are they louver like on an angle or are they horizontal like? No. Lver on an angle. So And what kind of gap is in between? I'm not sure it should say there, but it's just obviously for privacy. Okay. Cuz it's you can't be climbable. So we No, it's not climbable. No, it's on an angle. Maximum. No, it's
not on. It's not climbing. They're definitely lame. If you look at this vertical sideways one, looks like Okay. Yeah, I see it. And it's just gates on the front. There's not all the way around the
perimeter. No. No. And the two fences on the side. That's it. And the colors. Um, wait. Nothing in front of the house except for that one gate that kind of goes in on the other side. this one as well, but it's just a it's just Yep. That's all it
is. Second. David Scarlet say. Thank you. All right. 6 I one Z8 Northeast 12 Street, Paper Driveway. ation 37. Mhm. What type of paper? What color? I
had a picture. What? What color? Oh, you have just like a terracotta paper multi blend color blend and there's a big there's a big section of the board.
What where exactly is it going? Because I see asphalt driveway, but I don't see where pavers go. It's 27. Is it just replacing what's existing
there? Replace the file now. I had a 36 inch for the the line 1208. No. So just there's in the survey there's an asphalt driveway and then there's a concrete driveway. So it's going to
replace all of that or it's as fing you show real quickly just on here. Oh, what you're replacing is just this part. Okay. Okay. So, it's going straight up from there and it's going
down to Well, what what part is going onto the property? Is this is your property line? So, it goes down onto your property to the same to the concrete. Yeah. So, the concrete deck
goes here. Does it go up to that fence? Okay. So, basically it goes like that and then like that. Okay. Yeah. So, he's cutting off this existing
left side isn't going to exist anymore. And then you mean the asphalt? Yeah. This asphalt driveway getting blown out and then they're doing this, not doing this. Oh, okay. Yeah.
So, we're just supposed to imagine that because it's not drawn on that plan. You don't really have it drawn what you're planning to do. There's no draw. It's this. You're we're looking at what's there. Yeah. So, we need to have a
drawing of what you want to you want to do. Like actually take this and just draw on it. But, um like here, I'll show you that in a second. and and so you're going to have the the existing concrete that goes up to the property line. You're not touching that same. Okay?
Because right because right now it's non-conforming because it goes up to the property line. So if you were to remove that, you would have to bring it back 30 in. Okay? But then the other issue is is that you now have concrete asphalt and now you're going to replace it with concrete pavers. So we require all the
the driveway material to be of a uniform design. So you're you're proposing two different materials. So if you're going to do this, I would recommend maybe putting a border around the around the pavers to make it look like it's a
design like you did it on purpose because right now it's looks it's going to look like two different things next to each other. This is one of the ones. This is an example. What we need to see is hey this is the new shape of what it is that you can
draw it. as long as you get the measure or anything like that. But yeah, so do you have a copy of it with you? You don't have a physical copy? No. Um because I think what we're going to do is table it or for you to do a
drawing that shows it because but if you had a physical, you could maybe even like physically draw it and give it to us and we could say okay. But now I mean we're going to be here maybe another 45 minutes, but if not we're gonna have if not we're going to have to
table it. Otherwise it's going to be the next meeting. Another another meeting. Yeah. Motion to table. Please. Motion to table. Second. Say I. I. The reason we're tableling it is because the drawing is incomplete.
All right. Next would be six. Yay. Sorry. One I wrote over 1014 northeast on 16 16th Street. Donov. Good evening. How are you? Good. Everything good? We're doing another driveway. Another
driveway calculations 39 and 20. Okay. You're doing brick papers. Brick papers. Yes. Are they just brick color or are they any particular color? Like a charcoal charcoal gray. Charcoal gray. And we're going to have a border around it.
Oh, so you're a little over your calc. Actually, you're over your calculation on your rightway. Um, you have a like 40% Well, actually, no. I mean, it's kind of not doesn't go the entire
length. So, yeah, I think they picked the math because they picked 8 ft by 59 of it. That's what they did close, but they're saying that there's
607. So, they're actually It says cannot exceed. No, it's it does say 39.33. I think the numbers might be in the wrong because of the p the pvious impervious thing, but the maximum lot coverage that it's covering is 39%. Mhm.
Are you following me? Yes. Um, yeah. I mean, the problem is is where he drew this in the road, the actually the area that's before it. So the swale for his place looks like
it's 8 feet wide by 75 total. So if Well, now because if you look to the right does say parkway 9 ft. Doesn't that say 9 foot plus minus parkway? Yeah. So So that's that where
it says asphalt is not the road. That's actually the the asphalt that's in the front currently. We're wanting to do that as well with the pavers. Yeah. So, so I think he's got it correctly. It's just it it looks like it's part of the
road, but So then really it's eight. You have like ribbons right now and then asphalt across right in front of the house all the way across 75 going all the way across doesn't work like
that. You took 7 if he if he wanted to do it in that space he took 75 He could go 30 feet across. Now, if he's only doing it for half of the distance, then I guess
Yeah, it says so if you look, it says 25 ft from the property line to the center of the road. But then it says 15 feet asphalt pavement. So half of that seven and a half. So 25 and a seven and a half that gives you his
whale. And then that eight is 17. Yeah. 17. So what he's saying is that the 8t is from the property line to the to the beginning of the asphalt that he currently has in his rightway. But you're saying with all those still no
over 40. So no. So then his total swale calculation is 1275 versus he * 75. It's actually 17 * 75. So it's 1275. And then if he So if he wanted to
do 40% of that, then he could cover 510 ft. So if he did that divided by 8t wide, he technically could go out to 63. So this is fine. The survey wasn't helping us, but
these numbers are the numbers are correct. you look at them. Yeah. So I have motion to approve. It's just um any area that's not going to be favors. That's you know that there's a little bit area there on the lefth hand side that's uh it looks like it continues on
into the neighbor's yard. The neighbor yard happens to be my daughter. Have to remove everything that's on your property. All that be fine. Sure. The newspaper. So I have a motion. Second. All in favor say I. I. Rick, do you live here in the bar? I
just we just moved in, my wife and I, next door to our kids. 116th. Oh, welcome. I know you've been around. So, we love it. Yeah. We're really enjoying it. We've been in condominium life for 40 years. So, it's kind of like a shock how Okay. What a mistake I've made for
40 years. Wow. Well, wait until wait until you have to mow and cut everything every two days during the summer. Yeah. tomorrow. It's tomorrow. So, I'm two blocks away from you, so maybe I'll see you around. Bye. Next will be 6 M1130 Northeast 10th
Avenue. Uh, tile roof. Tile roof. All right. Um, you see this? There's going to be metals. 11130 notice remove existing shingle roof system and install new metal roofs. Yes, that's correct.
They tile re- roof. Yeah, they wrote metal roof on the page. Okay, let's see. It says it in here. Just on there the the ser agenda says is the form filled out here? I It's
a lot of pages, so I'm kind of scrolling through 70 pages. Um go a 412 according to your drawing. So it's according to Yeah. Okay. So 412 um 412 I believe it requires
an 412 actually requires a 12 in overhang 12 inch over with a 6 in. So um there's a form you have to fill out and sign. So, no one found it. But it's it's it's the rem of the roof, not the structural exactly. I don't know exactly
how how how big it be, but it's going to be exactly as as as it is right now. Yeah. So, the the issue and the reason why it's in the code is because they don't want the any like gabled ends that end straight at the So, the form which
you can right when you walk into the office is on the right hand side. Very easy. fill out. But the other thing that you're supposed to upload with it is photo basically a tape measure to the bottom of it verifying, hey, yes, it does have 12 in these. But and just to c
to jump onto that, too. I mean, it's more than just the the end gables. The the the code is written that uh if you going to do a metal roof in Biscane Park, you have to provide overhangs on the house. So whether the house has overhangs or not, if it doesn't, you're not allowed to do a metal roof. So, or
you have to add the the the required overhangs. The the house already have the overhang. Okay. So, the thing is there's no documentation of what the overhangs are. Um there's a form like David was just saying that has to be filled out and signed by the contractor or the homeowner. I'm not sure which one
has to sign it. Um but you have to provide proof that it has the required at 412 with 12in overhang around the perimeter of the house. And what color is the metal? It's dark brown. Brown. Dark brown.
Brown. Yes. On the on the pitch. The pitch areas. And this is just a standing seam metal roof. Nothing different. Um. Yeah. So, we can't vote on it right now because there's no proof of what the
overhangs are. Um so fortunately we have to table this for additional information. Um now if you if you provide those that just says hey the roof is going to be brown and here's the form and here's
photo but we have to come back again in the next meeting. You don't have to come in person but we have to have it in order to be able to to have approved. So if you So if you have those three things added, you don't need to come back. So there's a form that looks basically like
this that you have to there's an overhang, the fascia, the pitch 412, the color, and then you have to sign it, you know, proving that that that you're testifying that it is. And then we require photographs of the house
on all four sides to prove that that to prove that it matches. Sometimes people don't understand and they'll sign it and they don't they don't have the actual overhangs and it can be it could be so as long as it as long as there's no question you don't have to come back but if there's an issue where you don't have
the 12 in you might want to come back and talk to us because there might be you know if there's no issue then we and approve it without you being here. We just see Oh, okay. Yeah. No, we don't we don't review that. We
say, "Okay, it's good to go." Then the the actual engineers would So, were you are you the owner? Okay. Because I believe the owner This is the duplex on 10th, correct? Yeah. the owner had come in prior to us and we
reviewed this with him that there was issues with doing this metal roof. Um, and I thought he agreed that he wasn't going to do a metal roof. Yeah.
Yeah. Um, yeah. So, I think we've been down this road once before with this with this homeowner. All right. What street is this on? This is This is 10th. This is the one duplex that that's in the middle of all the other ones that have tile. No.
No. He was trying to get and we were like, "No, everybody else has metal." It was the shingle is why he came in. Okay. So, so yeah, he can do metal. There's two of the duplexes on that same. Okay. So, it was he tried to come in for shingles. My apologies. So,
yeah. Um, so it does appear that you have overhangs. I mean, you're it's hard to see because there's a bush in the front, but your neighbors, which are the exact same architecture, look like they have
overhang. So, you most likely are on on 10. Yeah. On 10. Um um I mean we meet every two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be I mean we're going to be here probably another half an
hour. Yeah. So on all four sides just go quickly with your iPhone and take a picture. I don't have a copy of this. That's the thing. This is mine. But you could. But if you It should be in our packet of
You want to see the What was that? What was that? Right there. One more. Right there. See? That's not So the actual There it is. So that's what you need to fill out and you
need to show us photographs. So this is the house. But this one is if So if you It's the same. Yeah, it's the same. No, it's the that entire row and
that Oh, must be a public safety officer or a judge or something. That's why they they're different. One side of the street is different than the other architecturally. Um but anyway, he's going to go check it out. Um so we'll just hold it and we won't vote
on that until they come back. Um 6N 11431 Northeast 11th place your paint. Hello. How are you? So I got a courtesy notice saying to repaint the house cuz it was blotchy.
Okay. Yeah. um was blotchy. Blotchy like a little blotchy. The paint was faded in some areas. Okay. So, I just want to paint it the exact same color. Hearts of palm color. Hearts of palm. Last time I painted it, I didn't use Sherman Williams, so it's not it wasn't called
Hearts of Palm back then, but it is a color match. I'm just using a better paint this time. So, hopefully this doesn't happen. So, we're just doing color approval. We don't we don't require permits for for um for roof or for paint, but we do have to we do have the the we make the approval of the
color. So, that's what's on there now. It looks good. Motion to approve. All right. All favor say hi. Hi. Thank you guys. Yep. Painting is the harp. You have your drawing. Me? Yeah. Huh?
No, I mean I if I'd ra this gentleman is watching us tonight and uh he's just enjoying the the show and uh if you have a drawing for us, we could come back to you. And you were just remind me again you were 108 Northeast 112 Street. Yes.
Okay. This is concrete. No, right now it's grass. Okay. So, what we're going to need is we need this to go further onto your property. So, Yeah, but I'm telling you right now, you have to be able to park the car
on your property right now. The way you have it, it's kind of half on half off. So, so here here's your issue. You see how it says 17. It has to go 16 ft in. So, it has to
be almost one almost two feet away. 1.85 away from the So, it has to go deeper. Okay. So basically it would have to go like this right and then like this
right and then this says and then it would go straight out this this gap which says that right away is 25 be
The only issue then is sorry. So 75 ft and you wanted to be 36 ft. That's right. 36. Hold on one second.
So here 25 * 75. So this can't be 36 ft. The most it can be is 30. Okay. So it has to be. And I'm just going to write over on the side just a couple of
say 30 by 16 on top. So then this you're going to have to upload into the the same way you did the other pages. This you're going to have to upload into it. And then thank you.
So, uh, motion to approve and upload of the the amended driveway design. Yes. Or the actual design. Second. All favor say I. I. This is now I'm changing it from tabled to approve. Thank you.
All right. One less table. Yeah, you got it. You got it. It's approved. It's approved pending you uploading that drawing. Yes. Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. Um 7A1 9 967 Northeast 117th Street. This
Thanks for uh Okay. Oh, is this the addition? Okay. So, this Why is it tagged as new edition? instead of just a revision to the plan. I I have no idea how it's tagged, but high level, we're just extending the
utilities room in the back a couple of feet to have a larger space. This Hold on. This the house on the corner. Mhm. Okay. So, it is So, the permit So, it is a new addition because the old house the permit's already done. Correct. So it's
it's a new it's new. Okay. It's not it's not a revision to an existing the original permit is closed with a CO. This is just just to try and close the deal. Just we're just adding a little bit to
the property. Not much just about 60 square feet. Tell me what I'm looking at. was basically there was an outside area that was behind the the laundry room in the half bath that now they're closing in to
extend the So you're you're creating that cabana into a bathroom like an additional bathroom. Correct. We're putting a shower for like in and then the bathroom and we're just making it larger utilities closet. So it's just a little tiny addition. So, it's a new
permit and as far as your lot your calculations, you haven't gone over your 50%. Yeah, it doesn't change it because it just went from being outside covered. Correct. Correct. If it changes, minimal, but most of it is already covered 48%,
right? We're we're still under the 50%. So, can I get a motion to move this to six um 6Q? I guess motion to move to 6Q. Second. Okay. So, moving this up to to the new business agenda
6Q and um all say I. I. We did that. Um and then now can I get a motion on the actual 6Q? Motion to approve 6Q. Second. All say I. I. I appreciate it. Good luck. We need to Well, that's
it for us. I mean, it's you're gonna have to go through the building department on that, but as far as our zoning goes, it looks it'll we're okay with it. Thank you. I'll see you in uh two weeks for the other one. Okay. Yeah. Can you come up with
a Did you come up with you bring you bring a planed printed copy of the plans? Yes, I will. Yes. A lot to digest from. No, I'll bring I'll bring the old and the new, please. So, we can compare and All right, everyone. Thank you so much.
All right. Um, so we do have minutes from our you have any questions or anything or I met officer Gutierrez and he was like you should pop by the real estate. by just check out some people. Okay.
Well, welcome to the neighborhood. Thank you so much. What's your name? Daniel. Daniel. Hi. Where where are you? So, uh 15 625 the one that's one off the corner. A couple years ago.
Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. Very nice. Have a have a good rest of the evening. Thank you. All right. So, we got minutes from the April 21st, 2025 meeting. Let's You have another one
next. Yes. Go back to our our schedule, right? Yeah. Well, the deadline was today, wasn't it? So, we just have to start prepping for next week. Oh.
Okay. Hopefully it's not that big. All right. Um I have the mission here 5C. So 5C it says no motion made. It was actually motion to table 5 says but did we actually make that
motion? Well we usually make a motion to table. description says we're I wrote it down as 50 tabled. Oh, okay. Yeah, it says table. I'm good. Motion David Scarlet. All here say I. I. I.
Those are approved as amended with the one. Um I mean they should just change that one as Yeah, but I don't think we have to bring it back to that variance we heard on Thursday. Yeah. So all three variances are coming Thursday. So I plan
on being here for see this week. Yes. I know. Thank you for doing that. Uh middle of the day. That did make me wonder though. Do we do does this meeting happen at something about that.
Um, I mean, we've always met at 6:30 on Mondays. No, I don't have any. We wanted to devote the move it to another time if the I can do I can Yeah, I can do earlier, but it does doesn't matter. I just curious about that.
Yeah, I don't get that at all. No, I mean I mean we could conceivably change our time if it was something that work. It doesn't I I work till five, so it's hard. Um evidently It's all good. Um,
so 5B 835 Northeast 12th Street and Sunshelf. Was he just 835 Northeast 20 Street? just did
here, but he was the pergular guy. Yeah, he wasn't the He wasn't the pool guy. Well, yeah, but it say Why do they have pictures of the septic thing? Why did we table this the last time? Uh
there was a dimension issue with the setback. Wasn't it wasn't dimensioned. I think it was in the Now it's Now it looks like it's at
10. Oh yeah, now the water line is 10 ft in the back of the project is 10 10. What is Hold on. What is that thing that's It looks like it's a like a fire pit or something.
Thing on the right hand. Yeah, I I think that that's a waterfall. Yeah, but it's it's the structure inside the the Oh, yeah, that's an issue. Yeah, it says wait automatic. It's an automatic cover.
It's a pool cover that's built into Okay, you go down to the next motion, please. Second. David or David is all on favor say I. All right. Are you ready for us, sir?
All right. So, we're back to 11130 Northeast 10th Avenue. Uh, metal reroute. So, what do you have? Oh, it's fixed. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah, one foot. Now you said brown before and now it's a charcoal gray. The house is not there used to they were built as duplexes. A lot of people have converted them into single family.
But charcoal gray is approved. Gray is an approved color and you have the required overhang. You just have to submit that drawing and you have to No, you need to scan it. You got to like you got you got to put
some blood on there. You like But there's but there's a form of that that actually has a signature and everything on it. So, yeah, it's I don't know if it's I don't think it's that one, but there is a form that's at the village hall that has a place for um the
contractor's signature and everything like that to date it and all that. You should get that one. Yeah, that one. It should be online. I don't know. It's it's the it's the hall and it's closed. It's after five, but we're going to go ahead and vote on it. But you're
going to provide a 6 inch fascia. You'll note that on that drawing to be to be changed to six. You have the required overhangs. It's gray. Second say I motion carries. Thank you. Thanks for working with us.
You'll get an email. Well, you need to upload the form and then you'll get an email saying that you're either approved because will go to all of the uh engineers to approve it or you'll get an email saying engineers need
clarification on point A and we're just we're just zoning we're just zoning that's it now it's now it literally is going to become a building permit it's going to be applied so it has to go through the building the yeah it has to go through all the
building department now thank you sir okay 5C 930 northeast 108 Ferg 5C. Okay. So, see 12 foot and 10 foot four.
Okay. So, it lines up with the back of the house, I think. Oh, this is the one that we were like, isn't there a pool there or something like that? Or didn't Hold on. Let me let me go all the way to the bottom here. Was there an
issue? It was It was that and also the fact that there I believe it's not showing the pool back there like And where's the And where's the lot coverage calculation? Hold
on. Do pergas count for lot coverage? Uh, yes. Structure. Yes. So, the survey is not correct. And that's probably why we tabled the last time because we were all like, "Isn't there a pool back there?"
So, in this photo, the pool looks like it's abandoned. And this photo like that's not what the front yard and all that stuff looks like. So there's definitely occur survey correct. Well, we need
clarification as to whether or not the pool exists. They did build it. than the survey would be. Well, let's look at the date of the survey. Yeah. What date is the survey? 2020. It says 423 2022. Oh, well that's
very recent. I would guess that they filled it in. The reason why I think maybe too that they filled it in is because that lot Oh my god. So there's a chance that you know that for a fact. Know that the
person you know the person I live around the corner and when it would rain a lot but my wife allowed to drive around that corner try to flood twice. Yeah. I I'm I'm just want to see more.
And there's no lot coverage calculation pedals. No, that would be the thing that I Well, it says lot size 12150, house area 1665, new aluminum. It does say on
the Yeah, we have a form on the survey. Yes, I'm just saying it as on the survey it's less than 20%. Or the entire the house, the pergola, the pool. H. We don't know what they're in. It's a fool. You keep trying to trick us into saying that there's a pool. You showed me a
picture of something that was dug into the ground. Yes. Yeah. And it had and it had a concrete shell. So if they even if they filled it in with dirt, it still had a concrete shell that's under the ground. Maybe, you know. Well, yeah. So
I was just reading this box. So also that survey is not sign and sealed. I I don't honestly think that it's a survey from Oh, the building.
All right. It's not sign and sealed by anybody. as well. What I would say is is that we need to have the survey and we also need to have Yeah. It's not signed and sealed by anybody. I mean, if if this is by a
professional engineer, then they have to sign and seal it. So, motion to table pending lot calculations sheet and a You say I I Okay. Motion is table for
additional information as David just described. Okay. 5D 1017 Northeast 115th Street roof cover sign and sealed survey. Yeah. And the sign and sealed survey
and does they uh missing both. We're 5D. Now we are at five. Yes. Post aluminum. We approve this. Uh I think
that they were me missing the dimensionality of it. Yeah. On that one side. So it's 10 foot 102. This is the same engineer. Engineer. Yes. What? Um it's
different. Motion to approve. What is this? This actually looks like a real survey, not this engineers thing. Well, it's definitely the engineers sign and sealed either. But I think this is a little
more me self explaining. Yeah. 10 foot 10 setback and the the all the other pieces are already existing. It's not added to coverage. I have a motion. Everybody okay on a
second? Hold on a second. Oh, and he's if you look he's providing us SS1 and updated in plan CS S2 the notes from our meeting they on page
number five they have they have a response sheet are yeah that's what I was reading provided us what we asked okay Um, I'm second. Say I I I111 111120
Northeast. Metal roof. Another metal roof. Okay. So 18inch overhang with a 6 in fasia on a 5 and 12 slate gray. Right. Good. Have the
photos. Okay, we're matching all good. Good. photos. Second carries. All right. Next would be 6C 824 northeast on 11 Street one of those big houses on 11. Yeah,
this is the one that we we approved it a couple weeks, a couple months ago. It's already in motion to approve. Second. All in favor say I. I. I'm sorry, guys. The only thing is they don't have
dimensions. Oh, I see it now. Okay. Next. Um 6H 10 07 Northeast 7 17th Street concrete driveway calculation.
24 down to the street. 6 in plain concrete approach fiber mesh that looks 9 ft 9 ft 4 in all the motion to approve. Second I uh 6K 10901 Northeast 10th Avenue.
Yes. Saxony 900 color flat concrete. See a color. So it's okay. Can we approve it based on chair? Yeah. Approving long as it's
motion to approve pending uh approval by chair of color selection. I you just send me or call me approve 6 L110 Northeast 9th Avenue Broadway
driveway. Okay. Oh, nothing. Not even a calculation sheet. So motion to deny pending calculation sheet the driveway selection form.
The gravel color the uh survey that indicated location of the driveway and the border. It's gravel. Every all the information needed for gravel driveway basically because they
have nothing. All they have is the survey of what the ex house is. There's nothing like this is where it's going to go. Doesn't look like they have any driveway at all. They have That's what I was going to say on it. Okay. So, next. No. All in favor say I.
What's all right 6012015 Griffin Boulevard? Oh, that's why Does it look like he's doing a carport? Yeah, it looks like a permanent carport with turf block. Why would he call it this?
But he doesn't have this carport now. So, no, you would think he would call it a carport. I don't understand the logic. So um so he's within his front setback. If you look at the
survey, he's fine. It's 57 feet back. So he's seven feet beyond the 50 foot setback. And it doesn't it's 11 feet from those sides. So, setbacks
are fine. Just you got to look at lot coverage. Is there a lot? There it is. He actually brought he brought this by. I don't know why it's in the pocket, but he has a lot coverage of he has a huge lot. I mean, it's 29,000 square
feet. So, uh that's a lot of grass. Um, so he's at 36% with this parking surface drive thing. Not sure why it's called facade. That's the only
um it should be it actually not even a car because it's because it's part of the house. So, it's actually just an extension of it is technically a carport, but it's not the definition of what we call a carport
because then it then a whole another thing kicks in. I think that's probably why you Yeah, he's trying to maintain a certain size. Yeah, but he's still that only applies if you want to put it in the front setback. So, this is like this
is part of the house. So, all right. So, 6 I don't see a motion to approve. Second. Say I. And then the next would be P20 12015 Griffy Boulevard for pool and pool deck.
All he is doing is changing the materials. Not doing he's not changing the footprint or anything like that. He's just rediamond writing it and changing. So motion to approve. So why would he need approve? Because
it's we got somebody we we had a couple where all they did. So the lot coverages don't change. This did you make motion? Yeah, you should just upload it. Did this guy motion
scarlet? All in favor say I. I. Wait a sec. So her you she's the architect, right? But her little logo looks like the outline of the house. Notice that. Very cute.
Oh, cool. Edward, I see you. Where's the logo? That top right point to the house. Yeah, David and SC. Yeah, that's what he had said at the beginning. He said he was gonna they were going to just do it that way the entire meeting so it'd be easier on you.
Yeah, that's what that's what they said at the beginning. Remember I said Oh, yeah. I was trying David Scarlet and then I was trying to make your life make your life easier. Okay. So, we have a discussion item which is 7B. They're not here. So, they
did submit the plans which is nice but typically we like them to show up. Isn't this the one that we've seen this before? Yeah. The
They wanted to do this. These are the gentlemen that was a group of them and the one was the architect and it's over on ninth court. Yes. Um and they had like a third floor roof deck and we were we were talking to them about the the pitfalls of doing all
that. Um but it would technically Oh, you know what? They weren't I don't think they actually had purchased it yet. So that's why this is first. view. Um I just wish that they were here. Yeah, this is the same
one. So do we label this and just say a discussion item? Right. I mean, it's a very interesting house. I mean, it's got motion. It's got all the different things. They still have that roof deck on the
roof, plants up there. How do we treat see in the first rendering they have on the bottom picture they have like 10 foot They don't need to square
footage coverage because it's grass underneath. That's acceptable. I mean, it's got a roof on it. So, to me, it's part of the improved structure, but to me it would be part of the the live coverage. Yeah.
I mean it's it's a gray thing because it's Oh, it is can levered. Oh, it's also very very normally. Yeah, I mean there's even with the can lever it's still 11 ft from the rear.
So, first floor is a 10- foot setback. So, I mean, if they're listening to us, we can just give them some feedback. Um, driveway, they're doing like a carport in the front because they we talked to them about the rules allowing for carports, but they're still setting the
house back 41 ft. Okay. sure I'm understanding how that first floor parkboard thing is working because it's only covering half the driveway in this drawing, but they did 20 feet deep
by 24 wide. in the middle column. Yeah, but if you look at it, it's only hatched on one side. So, that would be a question. Part that's overhanging. What are they planning to
do there? Um, first floor setbacks look good. Second floor, it sets back five feet. So, the second floor setbacks are three, two, Yeah, it looks like they listen to us about the 30 feet. doesn't
have one's 15 feet, one's Yeah. So they they they did the 30 foot setback on the one side and then the other side the other side it's now their height is 26 foot n before their railing. Their railing is
probably their railing is another looks like in. So, their total height goes to the top of their rail. Oh, I'm sorry. To the top of the railing. Okay. Well, they know that they have a 28 foot
overall height. So, he was listening to us. Um the wall on the left side of the of the second story is 34 feet long, 6 in, but it's isn't that tough way into the property? Well, if you look at the
survey, right, it says it's a 10-ft setback. So guess if you look at page the first floor the first floor page left hand side 10 foot setback for the first
floor. Yeah. You look at the second floor the wall lines up with the first floor and it's still so that means it's still at 10 foot. So in order for to be 10 ft on the on the set the set second
floor setback has to be only a maximum of 30 feet long and they're at 34 feet. So he needs to trim four feet off of those big thick walls that he has either in the front or the back or something like that on the second floor level. Am I reading this correctly? I
read it as 15'4 and 14t 7. That's on the right side. I'm talking about the left side. Oh, where it says open to below. Yeah. So, that wall on the left side is 34.6 ft long. Yeah. Which doesn't make
sense because part of the end of it is a front porch. Yeah. So, they need to shrink that down to 30 max. They could take off the that wing on the back. Yeah. Something. Yeah. So they indicated
as number one on page A-21. Okay. So the other thing too is I would say while they're interest I mean that's you look at uh page 24 north elevation that's a big
blank wall that's Yeah. Yeah. That's hard to say. They they indicated on the page. Yeah, I don't but it's the code. Wall plane shall be designed in such a manner to provide movement and
articulation to preventive light wall. whether it's tiled or whatever, it's still a huge white wall. So, it needs to have movement, which means something going on there. Um, windows on the south
side, that's now south. They have windows that face out onto the neighbor windows number six. East side windows aluminum fix black color frame dark bronze
finish. Oh, issues with the windows on the south side overlooking the neighbor the rear 2/3. They need to be done in a way that's secure views out into the neighbor. And then the roof deck on the
top. We had the same comment which is you can have a roof deck as long as it's under 28 ft, but you can't needs to be designed in a way that obscures viewing to the adjacent property. Roof deck shall be designed in
such a manner as to diminish visibility into abuing properties. So, this handrail is up right up to the edge, which it looks like is elevation east. It's somebody can conceivably go and stand and look right into their
neighbor's yard. So, they would have to set it back so that there's a line of sight. Let me see if they did that because we brought this up. Hold on. They did have a line of sight. Yeah, they did. They I don't know. I'm a but they did do it. Okay. So, yes, I didn't scroll down far,
but I'm still to me it looks like they actually are proving their point that you could actually stand there and look into your neighbor's yards, isn't it? Doesn't that kind of say, "Hey, we can we're watching you in your pool." So, have an issue with that. and plants, you know, have a tendency to
die. So, I'm a little bit concerned about relying on plants as a privacy screen, especially when they're on the roof with no water supply and stuff. But if you look at the front elevation, it does look like that carport goes all the way
across, but it's not reflected on the survey. any other feedback that they can listen to this recording and listen through our feedback. We prefer that they come and actually present it to us since we weren't here last week.
Maybe they are our give and take give and take on that a little bit. Yeah, I mean they looking at the way the work they very clearly do not need that and and I am I do have some concern
on the front facade. It's just a flat box. There's no there's no play or the roof line. You sure you didn't just I mean, you do have they technically do have the second story higher in the
middle. Um, so they're they're they are showing the one foot difference, but to me it's there's nothing in that front facade. There's nothing more than a 25 foot wall facade, dude.
So, I would like to see them break that up a little bit. Any other comments? All right. So, we can move this to second review if they if they're they are if they are okay with our
comments. The code does say flat top. Wasn't this the second review? So, I tend to think that that first one was They had not applied for the application. Yeah. But I thought that we told them
that they applied and they address our concern. It's from my memory usually the one that my my understanding was hey we have all these things you need to fix
like that. I feel like they they and the 30 foot side pieces like that. So I feel like what I would say is I'm comfortable this being the second, but I'm not comfortable going through a third and final without them coming. So I' I'd
like to make this I would make this continue this the first review. If they were here and we were talking to them, it's one thing, but to have them come back as the next review as to being the final I would stick with first review. The
next time would be All right. All right. Next meeting is next Monday. Are we good? Good. I don't think Ed will be here. So, it'll be the three of us plus Pablo, I believe. Um June is
when we taking applications for other I forget what it was like alternate. We still we still have another position available
but I don't know if they advertise it. That's what I was saying we only had four. I know that we were on I think the main case, hey, apply beyond the plan. But now that we have five, I just want to
make sure that I know that he has stuff going on, but it would be good in the summer. Yeah, we're doing pretty good, huh?
Oh, he's supposed to be a full He's supposed to be He's actually was the He was appointed as an alternate. Oh, you but he's acting as a as a full member. So, Oh, okay. It's that's the purpose of an alternate. If there's not a full member, you basically become a full
member. But if if the point came up that somebody actually applied, I would my first question would be Pablo is do you want to stay as an alternate or do you want to move into the the permanent position? So, I just see in the summertime that it would be like as long as we're on there,
like there's not that many people that get that excited about it, but I I would feel bad if we'll take I mean, we survived last year. We did, but we had a last week. I
just feel bad both for for everybody out there, but like I know most of I think well I just I'm going to ask everybody to come to the next meeting and have your summer schedule set or so we can
say okay we're going to have three on this June 2nd three on June 16th July 7th you know I might not even be I'm actually not going to be here No, I'm not going to be here for the
July 7th because I I will be but I'll just declare that next week. But, you know, we can always take another member, you know. Yeah. There's not a big people knocking on the doors want to be on this board. Well, all I want to do is make sure that we're on
the website as like, hey, yeah, we're looking for people so that if somebody's like, oh, I would do it, but I didn't know that you guys Um, who knows? This gentleman that was here resident wants to be involved. Um,
motion. No. So, our next meeting will be on the 19th. Then the following meeting after that will be on June. So, motion to adjourn, please. Thank you, Linda, for stepping in. So, um,
I liked her, but every time that I would walk in there, she would turn around in her chair and the entire time, like every time that I would go in, she basically just Yeah. It was kind of like, "All right,
cool." Like that's I would be like I know you can hear my voice talking. You want to see something something weird?