WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=LtvbU54M_MY Part: 1 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:24.800 I'm going to make that um I'm going to actually make that uh E. So 11221 item number new business I is going to become discussion E and that's going to be for um um second review. 2 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:41.200 And then also I'm adding um we have a walk-in that came in tonight. Uh D discussion D 951 Northeast 116th Street. It's another single family residence. I'm going to make that uh and that's actually our second review, I believe. Second. Yeah, the second review. 3 00:00:41.200 --> 00:01:02.960 Uh 951 Northeast 116th Street. All right. So, I got those two agend two um changes to the agenda. Can I get a motion of approve? Motion to approve. David Ed, obviously right. I Okay, so we changed that. Um 4 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:21.439 Carlos, you're here for roof, right? 640. Okay. So, that's B. All right. So, we're going to go by um the residents or the applicants that are here. We'll go in order the agenda. Uh first will be old business A 840 Northeast 116th Street uh 5 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:53.840 for a temporary fence. Yeah, just go up there, please. Is there an application for demo or for new construction? Hi Okay. I think it was tabled last time because we weren't clear whether or not there 6 00:01:53.840 --> 00:02:29.640 was a a construction or a demo permit to go along with the rest. >> Okay. Sounds good. I got a motion to approve. >> David Pablo. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Thank you very much. Thank you. 7 00:02:31.120 --> 00:03:08.800 All right. Next will be new business B 640 Northeast 21st Street. Kool Cabana. Hey, but this just was the cabana approved previously or is this a whole new a whole New new 8 00:03:08.800 --> 00:04:00.000 structure. Okay. Okay. So, setbacks look fine. Uh what is your um what is the um your your lot coverage? That's going to be our next, you know, says, well, the first page says 8,237 9 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:22.479 square ft for proposed and existing total area 49.92. So, you're right up to your max your max last page. Okay. We're in six beat. That's 5B. I was like I was like I was looking at 10 00:04:22.479 --> 00:05:06.000 this last page and I was like this is very different. Yeah, you you just so just an FYI, you uploaded a sheet in here. It's that still is 49.92. It's still under that's probably the original one because the new drawings look like they're down 11 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:28.560 at the very bottom of the Dropbox. >> Yeah. U but I just I'm looking for the calculations. Sorry. Yeah. Here. Here. The pool deck is different. It's smaller. >> You did have these drawings down, 12 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:53.440 >> right? >> You also have a lot of ones up here that look similar, but I get I think maybe this one says 632 ft. These ones that This is still 13 00:05:53.440 --> 00:06:28.080 >> So >> you want to give it to him? He's the We just look at his eyebrows and what they tell us. >> Okay. Okay, I'm just because I see the permit application for the cabana. Then I see 14 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:42.960 that drawing there and then there's some more detail, but it's it's that the one that's in here is does has still shows a walkway over here. >> Yeah, it shows. >> Okay. I just don't see a uh on these newly submitted drawings I don't see lot 15 00:06:42.960 --> 00:07:22.000 calculation is there is there that drawing is different that's one p-1 When did you upload that? >> Yes. >> It won't be. They won't have it. >> Okay. So, you're saying that according 16 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:39.120 to that drawing, you're at 7,942 at 48.13 your live coverage. Okay. So, I just have to make sure that that drawing is uploaded. the most current >> because he's right up against his 50%. >> Mot motion to approve as long as we have 17 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:54.639 the correct drawings and folder. >> Yeah. As long as you know that drawing is uploaded. Can you just double check on that? I mean, it's fine. It's correct. It's just that you know we're approving that drawing right there. 18 00:07:54.639 --> 00:08:10.240 Okay. >> Who came in today? Okay. Okay. Yeah, he came in today. >> All right, I have a motion. Ed, David, Ed, all in favor say I. I. 19 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:26.520 >> Okay. >> All right. We're approving it. Thank you. >> Yep. Have a good one. Might as well hang out. It's raining now. >> Yeah. All right. Next will be uh new business C660 Northeast 119 Street for an addition. 20 00:08:36.560 --> 00:09:04.959 Hello. Yeah. Can you tap that? Is that on? I don't think it's on. Just Just maybe check the button. There we go. I'm Tiffany Hill at 660 Northeast 119th Street. you just described where this initiative. 21 00:09:04.959 --> 00:09:22.000 >> So, yes, we're guess in the early stages. I've been back and forth with city hall for their wonderful assistance. So, this is like my first step um into our addition. And what we're requesting is I guess our first step for 22 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:37.120 our variance in the back of the house. We're going to be adding a bedroom in the back and our existing structure on that left side is currently 3'2 in. So, 23 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:53.760 we wanted to match that existing structure wall when adding the back bedroom rather than following the new setback of 10 ft in. Because if we were to follow that, that back addition would be too small for a bedroom. 24 00:09:53.760 --> 00:10:12.320 And aesthetically, I think it would just look better to keep that line seamless with the existing structure coming back, you know, for that be bedroom. Keeping that line straight with the existing >> um is this on this drawing? I'm just 25 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:29.200 I'm sorry. >> Yes, it >> little bedroom that's on the lower left. What you're wanting to add? >> Yes, it says bedroom 122. And then the bedroom that's 119 is already existing 26 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:49.920 which is the 3 feet 2 in to the property line. >> So >> that's existing. Yes. So I mean we're we're we're considering it's not really super clear that that's 27 00:10:49.920 --> 00:11:05.600 what you're in this application that we're reviewing. I want to make sure that we are we're reviewing basically we're not reviewing the variance right now. We're reviewing the application for the bedroom. Correct. I don't even have an I 28 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:22.320 don't have a variance. It says do the veterans pass but >> we got a Yeah, we're adding two bedrooms in the front. So, we're we're limited obviously what we could do on our land keeping one story. So, we have to add one bedroom in the back. So, 29 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:38.560 >> but the addition on the front is also >> No, that's that is going to follow the the guidelines of setbacks. That's fine. It's just for the back bedroom >> inside of the existing structure you already have. >> No, no, we're going to be demoing and going up and over, but it's still going 30 00:11:38.560 --> 00:12:00.800 to follow the seex Well, what? Okay. So, are the application today is that for those front bedrooms also? >> So, no, it's not from my understanding. I was trying to understand this full process cuz this is 31 00:12:00.800 --> 00:12:17.839 our first time doing this obviously to our home and they said I had to come before you all to let you all know what we wanted to do and accordance to this variance and then you all make your decision. Technically 32 00:12:17.839 --> 00:12:35.760 they told me what happens and then from there then I have to apply for the variance application come to you all a second time and then from there go to the commission and then come back to you all a third time. It's like a a lot of back and forth. >> Yeah, six seven. Um, the reason I ask is 33 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:50.880 just, you know, referring to the bedrooms on the front. You know, obviously we want to know what that's going to look like. They're at some library elevation. How's that tie into the existing house? You know, um, what? So, that's the front. I mean, that just 34 00:12:50.880 --> 00:13:07.519 checked and their setbacks are not an issue. So, you have no problem. But again, aesthetically wise, we need to know what is this? How high is it? It's going to be Yeah, the front is going to be the same. Those two front bedrooms is 35 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:29.360 like the existing elevation. Not like we're going higher. The roof is not going higher. >> We just Whoever did your these drawings would probably just need to do an elevation on the front >> so that we don't slightly regarding the bedroom. I mean, we have 36 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:47.279 to deny it because you're in the setback, >> right? >> Um, so here denial that setback now case for the variance that's another 37 00:13:47.279 --> 00:14:04.720 story. Um, haven't discuss that happen, but I just want to make sure I understand what I'm voting for. I mean, we're going to be voting for the bedroom back to the house. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're doing first because we do have a full set of 38 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:20.720 plans, plumbing, electrical, everything done. But I wanted to see if we could get this back bedroom variance approved so that this is our ideal like addition we want to do. So, I wanted to see if we can get that approved 39 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:36.639 before we move forward with the actual permitting and everything. And obviously if it gets approved I have to get my plans changed by the architect and everything. >> It's better to get things prior to all the drawings, >> right? 40 00:14:36.639 --> 00:15:09.680 the team. Um but if we are here just for room number 122 >> then that's what Marian put out you kind of Yeah, >> first step in the variance is getting 41 00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:28.079 denied right >> tonight. >> Then you'll reapply for the variance next time. >> Same drawings, but there's a four point questionary out >> is your variance safety issue? Is your 42 00:15:28.079 --> 00:15:43.040 variance the least variance you can have? Does it is it essential for the enjoyment of those questions? >> You fill that out. Come back to us. We review it, we discuss it, then we take a vote on a recommendation to the commission to recommend the variance. 43 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:59.360 After that's done, then those commissioners they set a special period which knows when that >> right >> then they'll make >> the commissioners decide regardless of what 44 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:19.600 we're Right. >> So what you want tonight? For example, let's say you were going to start the part at the front like that part. If you want to get that approved, break that out separately >> because injection course. >> We're still debating. Yeah. If we're 45 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:37.199 going to do it all together or in phases. >> So just so you know, right now whole thing's going to get tonight. It's all kind of tied together. Yeah. The front come back with that separately. Take out the back. >> Encroach it. Okay. >> If you're not, you just need to figure out first before you find where you are 46 00:16:37.199 --> 00:16:55.279 tonight. >> Got it. >> So, >> another thing too is just your just to be clarifying your lot coverage. The the the the code is 50% total lot coverage. >> So, that includes your pool, your house, your everything. um everything uh 47 00:16:55.279 --> 00:17:11.600 walkway, any uh um AC pads, anything that's that's an improvement on the property, it's considered part of your lot coverage. So, >> is a is your deck um considered pvious because it allows >> versus pvious, it's lot coverage. So, 48 00:17:11.600 --> 00:17:27.600 it's it's covering improvement on the lot, but yes. >> Yeah. That that pvious and pvious is sort of a not the critical distinction. It's just That's not landscape. >> For example, you have a gravel driveway. 49 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:44.880 That's that's basic. >> Got it. >> So, I mean, you're you said it looks like your total lot coverage is 9,375. >> That's the total lot. The way the chart here said. >> No, I'm just saying if if the total lot 50 00:17:44.880 --> 00:18:01.600 is 93 and she's saying her green space is at 46. >> That's what it looks like. Yeah. She's she's right up close to her 50%. So, just u be be aware of that um when you're um when you're um we're going to 51 00:18:01.600 --> 00:18:22.200 be looking at that, too. >> Yeah. >> Um um now, as far as So, I did I hear a motion? Are you clear on what we're voting on? We're voting on I'm sorry. Was there 52 00:18:25.760 --> 00:18:47.320 for right. So now you're going to have to do an application for the variance. Like Ed just said, you have to meet the four points of variance. We have to be we have to make recommendation 53 00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:14.400 get back to us. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. >> And if you want go ahead and get the front bedrooms like get go get it going so at least we can look at it. We have it ready. We just I guess we'll 54 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:31.360 have to discuss if we want to do both run the front and back at the same time or we were also discussing with our GC if we were going to split in two phases. Do the front first and then the back. So we'll see what we want to do. But definitely good. >> Be good just to to show it to us so that we some feedback. 55 00:19:31.360 --> 00:19:45.679 >> Yeah. >> Next time it comes back down or something like that. >> Okay. So the next one I come for the variance application I can bring more of 56 00:19:45.679 --> 00:20:06.720 the plans for you to see the front and stuff. Okay. >> Even if you just want to put it on as a discussion item. >> We have Okay. Thank you everyone. >> Thank you. 57 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:33.600 >> All right. Uh, new business m uh 1215 north. Good evening. All right. So, the question that we have is you guys state uh that you cannot install a metal roof at anything less 58 00:20:33.600 --> 00:20:51.760 than a 2 and a half on 12. I have a roof that is two on 12. So, the question becomes is where do we go with that? So I Okay, so I spoke with the building department um and I realized that's not this, but I spoke with the building 59 00:20:51.760 --> 00:21:08.320 department and asked them and I was like, "Well, is like where where is that definition of 212? We're going to be putting on a standing seam or the intention is to put on standing seam." 2112. 60 00:21:08.320 --> 00:22:03.600 >> You even No, my product approval actually goes all the way down to one and a half. I mean, I'm fine by product approval, but Not even tile. Our >> the pitch on the roof is a two on 12, 61 00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:26.159 but we have product approvals four. You know what I mean? The the Right. It's a local it's a local zoning thing. Right. Correct. Correct. So that's that becomes Right. So there in lies the problem. I 62 00:22:26.159 --> 00:22:41.440 mean in doing it the customer doesn't want a 21on 12 with tile one. You don't even hold any manufacturer warranties at 212. You know what I mean? It's a horrible system to put on a two on 12, but they don't want their house, and I'm sure their neighbors don't want their 63 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:57.039 house, you know, looking like a bright white, you know, tarp on top of their house if we do tpo. If we do hot, you know, if we do hot tar, we do a granulated surface, now you're looking at bleed lines. I mean, it just aesthetically looks horrible to put any flat roof system on there. They want to 64 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:14.240 put a nice clean looking roof on it and not piss off all their neighbors, but they don't want tile. >> I'm sorry. It is tile. Yeah, it is tile. But at two on but at two on 12, you have no manufacturer warranties at all on a two on 12 because it's not the building code 65 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:32.320 allows it, but manufacturers it's not designed. Tile roofs are not designed to be on a two on 12. So although the building code allows it, the customer has done their homework and understands the fact that, hey, I'm going to I'm getting ready to spend whatever the number is here, 25, $30,000 on a roof 66 00:23:32.320 --> 00:23:51.840 that I'm going to have zero warranty on as soon as the manu as soon as the labor from the contractor expires. No, they have tile. They have tile now. No, it's a it's a it's a tile roof now, but >> that's the pitch. 67 00:23:51.840 --> 00:24:09.360 >> Yes, it is a two on 12. Yeah, it is a two on 12 and it meets all your other requirements. It has the 18inch overhangs. It has the, you know, 6-in fascias. Everything else is to your guys designs. >> So, here's the thing. Our hands are 68 00:24:09.360 --> 00:24:26.880 completely tied on roofing material and actually the hands are tied on materials. So our code specifically says that you cannot have a metal roof on less than two and a half as you can have material on a roof less than the code actually 69 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:46.720 does say that there shall be no variances. So there's not even a variance process for putting on the >> So here here's the problem we have though, >> right? You can't even by your by your 70 00:24:46.720 --> 00:25:01.919 the building codes's one thing. We get that. But by your own ordinances, you can't put tile back either, which means they're going to have to put a flat roof on this roof. It's either going to be I don't I don't even know what flat roofs you guys will approve. If we go 71 00:25:01.919 --> 00:25:17.600 thermoplastic forever, you know, for the next 25 years, the neighbors going to be looking at a bright white, you know, tarp looking roof. If we go back builtup, they're going to be looking at granulated surface with bleed lines. I mean it flat roofs aren't attractive and you can clearly see it on that street 72 00:25:17.600 --> 00:25:33.679 view from it. Their neighbors are going to hate you and hate us and hate their neighbor. I mean unfortunately the house is a twoon 12. It looks, you know, a flat roof is not going to look aesthetically pleasing. >> Yeah. >> And although the customer doesn't want a 73 00:25:33.679 --> 00:25:59.200 tile roof, you guys won't even approve a tile roof anyways because it's not it's by your same ordinance, right? It's your same ordinance. It is. It is. I was probably like 40 before I ever read that cuz my kid called me out on it. And she was like, "Have you ever 74 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:15.039 even read the book?" And I was like, "Actually, I haven't, but that doesn't change anything. I know what it means." But I was like 40ome by the time I actually ever read that. You're 100% sure that it's not a two and a half. >> Yeah. 75 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:30.640 >> There's no way that you can go back and have the measurement be >> my measurement can be two and a half on 12. Sure. But it's it's a two on 12. You know what I mean? Now, once that tile's ripped off and we rip, you know, we put it, you know, a true gauge to it without 76 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:50.400 any elevation change with tile. Is it slightly over two on 12? Possibly. But on a digital gauge right now, putting it on there, it's a two on 12. >> It's just that you're you're it's going it's our hands are tight. I mean, the 77 00:26:50.400 --> 00:27:13.520 code is is clear on that. Digital gauges off and recalibrate it. I mean, I could measure it by hand. Sure. Yeah. Okay. All right. Not sure 78 00:27:13.520 --> 00:27:29.679 >> recommend going back and reme-measuring it. >> Okay. >> Actually, you might because the building official is going to is going to um confirm that. So, I don't know if you want to even have a meeting with there 79 00:27:29.679 --> 00:27:50.799 and say, "Hey, you help us determine the Well, I mean, I met with him and we went over it with him and his his thing is is, yeah, you're a full grade, you know, you're a full point grade above where you need to be by product control. It's all we care about, but you need to speak 80 00:27:50.799 --> 00:28:20.080 to the board about the ordinance. >> You have the power to do it, right? Right. I get it. Yeah. double shirt. >> I'm not I'm not asking you I'm not saying to do anything nefarious saying just confirm before we you go to the 81 00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:46.320 next step confirm that you are in fact at two and a two or two and a half or 12 because that from that picture I mean it looks like has a pretty substantial What is the color you're looking for? >> Uh, charcoal gray. That's what they were 82 00:28:46.320 --> 00:29:30.799 asking for. That's what you guys were asking for. You know, we're on we're on M. A lot of the houses on northeast on on 11th court have the low slope roots go up and down. They're all low slope with 83 00:29:30.799 --> 00:30:09.679 asphalt material on it. kind of that's where we're at. I mean, we have to deny it the way it is. Um because you don't have the fish um or any type of roof material on. But 84 00:30:09.679 --> 00:30:52.640 I would recommend We could table this Well, it >> it's not minor at all, actually. I mean, I got to tell a 90-year-old guy that I got to rip off all of his decking and give him all new trusses. You know what I mean? Be a 50 $60,000 deal, you know, 85 00:30:52.640 --> 00:31:09.919 per side. It's a It's a two-split house. It's, you know what I mean? I mean, maybe not that much, but I mean, it'd easily to do the whole house. I mean, I don't know. I'd have to know what that what that run is, but you're probably every bit of 50 60 grand. You know what I mean? Guy is in his late 80s. You know 86 00:31:09.919 --> 00:31:43.840 what I mean? His kid would be the one making that decision cuz he's the one's going to inherit the house soon. Unfortunately, you know, they're not going to spend that kind of money to reframe the house. No, I mean, we've never >> You could put a tile on this roof. You 87 00:31:43.840 --> 00:32:01.760 just stand. >> No. By your by your ordinance, I'm not allowed to put a tile roof on it. >> Well, you can't. There's there the ordinance gives you an out. You just his client doesn't want to have a builtup roofing material there. It does give 88 00:32:01.760 --> 00:32:38.440 them a path forward or a roof. It's just that somewhere in the next 20 years that entire >> However, if a metal roof does not meet the requirements of section, whole thing. That first line, 89 00:32:49.679 --> 00:33:40.960 we have that drive by every day. Low slope roofs all over the park that have put on the required roofing and move on. Yeah. I mean, not that it Well, I mean, all right. I mean, well, we're playing semantics, but if if 90 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:56.320 you're going to break your ordinance for tile, we'd ask that you break your ordinance for metal because that's what the client actually wants. You know what I mean? If we're going to step away from the or you know what you guys say as a town, then we'd ask that you let us do what the client actually wants if we're going against it. 91 00:33:56.320 --> 00:34:11.440 >> Is this a problem above us? >> Right. No. And I and yeah, I understand what you're saying. I mean, the other the other side of that, too, is and I mean, this is getting off of this particular property, but at 212, your fire ratings are very, very, very 92 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:27.440 limited in systems that you can even do for a flat roof, right? You're now you've moved away from Hot Tar. You've move you moved into Soleie torch, which has much larger bleed lines. You I mean, these roofs get uglier and uglier, you know what I mean? at two on 12 to make 93 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:44.560 that pitch happen for for a UL rating. I mean, that's not what we're talking about here, but to your point, you know, eventually an entire street is going to have very unattractive roofs on it. You know what I mean? But I mean, I don't know. 94 00:34:44.560 --> 00:35:06.400 >> Yeah, I hear you. I know. I hear you. I I mean, the only thing at this point I I >> But you're not you're not saying you have no documentation. just saying. >> No, I'm just going by the He's saying that the low pitch roofs are are 95 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:41.200 unattractive, which I'm just going off. They all look the same. Well, first thing you could do is make sure that he's not 2.5. No, we should I think we should table it so they don't have to go back and do 96 00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:57.040 some more research on this. >> I can get the client to sign off on destructive and actually go pull tile and get a measurement on the deck side. because we're measuring it at the tile now, you know what I mean? But I mean, it's it's elevated and on a transom, so 97 00:35:57.040 --> 00:36:20.599 it's accurate, but roof repair or roofing re-roofing requirements and excess. All buildings in the village which have roofs which are concrete tile tile only with clay tile 98 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:51.200 of tile or metal is the idea of that notified No, the the intent of this code was to stop people from taking roots >> basically. 99 00:36:51.200 --> 00:37:05.599 That's kind of covered somewhere else, right? Point of if you look at the village, our villages tile roofs. So the tile roofs so that they'll take their tile roots and convert it into single. 100 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:24.480 wrote the code over and added metal to that >> section that basically >> you can say with tile or metal you just can't downgrade right >> or metal right yeah right so in this case we're tile so we're going to metal 101 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:40.960 >> then you're changing >> not like you're re- roofing it with the same you're taking it from one material to another that's when the coat kicks in about the Yeah. And then also the issue groups have certification 102 00:37:40.960 --> 00:38:16.079 their own section saying probably there's a path forward by keeping the say hey your code says I can't >> I mean again I Yeah. No, I mean I No, I mean I I hear you. I mean the options I guess at this 103 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:33.760 if I don't really know. It's there's no good option. It's either the guy puts a flat roof on which is aesthetically very unpleasing. An insurance company will make him 100% change. You know what I mean? much sooner or 104 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:49.920 you know he goes back to a tile roof and has zero warranty because it's the code allows it and apparently your building department well questionably allows it not because because it's not two on two and a half on 12 but the next set says that you can 105 00:38:49.920 --> 00:39:06.960 replace like and kind you know go and tile to tile but you know yeah yeah >> I line is before all of what I just said at the very top >> is 212 and a half. >> I mean, I'll pull I mean, like I said, I 106 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:24.640 I'll I'll have them go back and do some destructive testing, pull the tile, measure it at the deck level. The other thing that >> see if something is different or >> take that schedule next week say hey look this is the 107 00:39:24.640 --> 00:39:40.880 conversation I went and had with planning and zoning and where their answers and what we talked about like ask him hey what are your thoughts I >> mean I'll certainly I'll certainly meet with him again I mean I preemptively had 108 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:57.760 that conversation so that I he knew But to tell you when I got here, you know what I mean? And his thing was is he was like, "You're, you know, your product approval lets you go down not only to a two, but to a one and a half. Much higher pressures, much better roof, last way longer." He was like, "From a 109 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:14.400 building department standpoint. We'd always tell you to put a superior roof on, but it's on the board to let you put a metal roof on or not. You got to talk to them. Show them your product approval." I said, "Okay." metal. >> It does. It does. And we turned all that 110 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:37.440 in with the photos. >> Yeah, he has in the tail end of 18 18 in is what is what your requirements are. Yeah. And at minimum we have 18 in. our our sophets actually 111 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:53.440 get a little bit bigger, but at minimum over the front door, which would normally be bigger. In this particular house, it's actually smaller, um, is 18 in. But either way, the smallest dimension anywhere is 18 in. And it has the uh and it has the 6-in fascia that you're looking for at that at that low 112 00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:46.200 pitch. >> So, we have I would >> Yeah, I mean, okay. Okay. Okay. There any I mean, yeah, a week after whatever it may be, but >> that is 113 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:27.599 Yeah. I mean I I just don't you know >> Oh, just a note saying that it's he would he would have that in his application. >> Yeah. I mean, if if it's two and a half, then there's no question, you know, all the way through it. It's a mute point. But if it is in fact two, we still get 114 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:52.000 back to this, you know, we still end up in this circle. >> I mean, I'll confirm that before he comes back, but >> I'm sorry. It is, but that's not a claim I'm I'm really making. It's leaking in the guy's 115 00:42:52.000 --> 00:43:18.240 garage. I mean, it is a leaking roof and it does need to be changed sooner than later, but I mean, I don't have water run down an electrical panel or anything. It's leaking in his garage, you know. I'm not, you know, >> second. >> All right, let's two weeks. 116 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:34.720 I mean specifically what am I actually asking the building department for? You know what I mean? >> Your path forward is to confirm whether or not you have >> and if you want to get a file for not then you really need to consider talking to your client about that. 117 00:43:34.720 --> 00:43:56.720 >> Okay. >> Careful what you wish for. He's an old dude but no. Yeah. No. Yeah. >> The homeowner. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate the 118 00:43:56.720 --> 00:44:16.000 board's time. Thank you guys very much. All right. Um, next will be uh discussion B, uh, 930 Northeast 121st Street. It here. Uh, we're going to set you right here next to David. 119 00:44:16.000 --> 00:47:04.079 This is how cutting it out. You're taking a duplex and making it into a duplex this way. So, Yeah, >> you know how far this has to you know it's a duplex so most likely it 120 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:22.560 was built to the correct and then you have here. So, you are allowed to have a little art studio accessory back. You have two different things going on 121 00:47:22.560 --> 00:47:41.359 here. The shed it's a 10 by 10. But if it's a an actual structure, like it's it's an accessory structure. You can actually go you can goever 122 00:47:42.000 --> 00:48:11.839 maximum. So it's and if it's structure then it's got to be shed 10 by 10. So we have a 30 in 123 00:48:11.839 --> 00:48:54.960 set back. >> Yes. >> Yeah. So you just have to make sure you don't start any you're atast but they don't the other thing that I was noticing is with this 124 00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:15.599 ars you have all of that stuff that you and I You're going to have uh let's still have to have all the parking spots that are 125 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:39.200 required. >> Yeah. >> Well, no. The well the front anything in the swale which it's 121st there's not much. Um you um that is that is city property. All the parking has require 126 00:49:39.680 --> 00:50:01.319 spots. >> Even if you just kept going this tandem all the way down, long as you are providing the four spots, that's all. >> So this show 127 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:42.160 In fact, we ended up renting what I'm saying is that when you do that, you need to see, oh, there's >> just one. There's no requirement on how to park. So, so you showed four parking spots and 128 00:50:42.160 --> 00:51:36.720 then you know this one along you have one spot. >> No, you're allowed to have four that are You are allowed to have >> the door. Go ahead. That's what you saw. 129 00:51:36.720 --> 00:52:08.119 >> I saw that in the center here. But I think for car like City 130 00:52:23.920 --> 00:53:08.359 issue is doving that you want to do 50% and then for that walk across the grass. So you have to kind of get a little Uh bedroom 131 00:53:16.079 --> 00:54:13.079 >> for us. county plan say we'll get to I know at some point you're Yeah, there is a good number. 132 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:37.839 >> No, the 50% rule is your entire property. So, I don't know what the Let me go. >> Yeah. Property search, it'll tell you a number. You can look on your survey. Usually the numbers match up. That's a 133 00:54:37.839 --> 00:55:00.680 quick way that start,000 square foot everything house, the driveway, the decks, the walkway, path, whatever is not landscaping or soft. the gravel drive. 134 00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:53.440 >> Well, I said I want to know before they hire of the front. >> Yeah, that was actually you can upload the picture of the drawing thing and say can you take this 135 00:55:53.440 --> 00:56:15.480 and make sure that it's under guys will screw it up but it will try but it will try and >> scale it 136 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:57.960 to my Thank you. >> All right. So, our next um discussion item is going to be um D951 Northeast 116th Street. Uh this is for single family residents. Second review. 137 00:57:17.200 --> 00:58:31.040 All right. First, I'm here. And I have questions. Does everything I don't know what that.5 is a separate setback structure that is I have to look at is 138 00:58:31.040 --> 00:59:28.160 separate 30% But your main thing would be It seems like 86.5. Are you a little bit over? >> Your your lot is 85 and you're at 86.5. >> We're basically at Oh, the code is that's right. The 139 00:59:28.160 --> 01:01:07.640 minimum is >> so your Okay. window. >> One window here. >> Yes. Yeah. No, I mean I'm not saying it's a bad I'm just saying it's a lot of second story. 140 01:01:25.440 --> 01:02:09.040 So now you solve that. What does the architecture look like from side wall side? I think for instance, you see how you have all this kind of material. >> So if you go and look at a lot of the 141 01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:27.440 twostory houses that are kind of being built, build segments of that material on especially the second floor of those big walls so that Yeah. So that 142 01:02:30.319 --> 01:02:48.640 Yeah. Well, this is the back, right? >> Yeah. But I'm saying this is the back. This is the This is the back. >> This is the back of the house. The front of the house. This is one of the sides. >> This is the back. >> This is the front of the house. This is 143 01:02:48.640 --> 01:03:04.079 the rear house. >> Okay. So, so seeing as you have these windows in the front, right, we would rather that there's the materiality and all that stuff happening in the rear 144 01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:26.880 or you're trying to have privacy, but it's also where your neighbors would be looking. It's like, oh, there's a giant white >> just figure out a way you It's not a big blank wall that you know because now it's there's two things, right? We don't want the windows peering into your neighbor's yard. We also don't want your 145 01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:43.119 neighbor staring up at a big twotory wall. So >> you see how this is just one giant you do something to visually make it appealing the way that you do here. 146 01:03:43.119 --> 01:04:01.440 I mean you can interpret it. Um articulation shall be designed in such a manner to provide movement and articulation to prevent extensive length walls. So I mean you you've got a lot of architectural design some of those as 147 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:18.559 David was trying to say maybe some of those gone over to to add some and we're also looking at this is you know but just that's the ordinance is that this to me would be kind of a big wall. It's it's exactly 148 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:50.640 the same on the other side too. talking about the house. >> But you can also do something, you know, >> way to diminish the views. 149 01:04:50.640 --> 01:05:52.720 >> Your stories obviously down. Maybe something like that. >> Yes. He does have here. >> Yeah, I still like 150 01:05:52.720 --> 01:06:48.400 I guess you provide. So, you know, like all has a different elevation. This is a roof, right? >> So you have a roof level here. the first 151 01:06:48.400 --> 01:07:16.240 and you have here. So that's another top. And you're saying that this roof and that are two different >> Yeah. These two different >> Yeah. You have it here. This is even this eyebrow. 152 01:07:16.240 --> 01:08:08.400 I'm not quite sure >> and then it goes around. So this is considered one roof level. This is two levels. Yeah, I saw it on >> all these eyebrows. You're breaking up >> just need to make sure this is all translated over here. 153 01:08:08.400 --> 01:09:06.920 >> I like the way you have here. detail. Even here or something. The thing is the height of height elevation. That's why it's started. 154 01:09:17.040 --> 01:10:34.719 I'm concerned because you have a foot and a half to play with. But this dimension stops at this line which actually might just be bution from There you go. >> Yeah. Upper That should mean more than likely it's 155 01:10:34.719 --> 01:11:09.199 measuring base. So your bas on that section elevation somewhere give us a dimension which you have make your additions come the third 156 01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:42.840 group. If everything goes good, we could possibly at that move it to approval. >> Okay. >> And uh you know, we've done that before, you know, you work with us. >> All right. Um, I have the minutes from the meeting of uh May 18, 2026. 157 01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:51.000 They look good. I I had reviewed them. Um, One thing about going to change All right. Uh, next would be old business uh B 11908 Northeast Avenue. 158 01:13:13.440 --> 01:14:00.159 You're good on the setbacks and all that. >> Yeah. All right. Next will be um new business A50 510 Northeast on 19th Street revision. So, >> this is the This is the new house on 159 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:17.360 119th Street. Correct. >> Yeah, we had a lot of coverage issues. So, I'm just Are they adding more? >> Yeah. >> So, does it take it over the percent that 160 01:14:22.320 --> 01:14:48.480 But it looks almost like they're all changing says additional pool deck slab on grade of existing terrace. Yeah, just going off of the 161 01:14:48.480 --> 01:15:03.520 all the sun that they used to be trying to put the waterfall on right side of that. That's what they did. >> According to their calculations, they're 162 01:15:03.520 --> 01:16:07.040 still at 40%. David Pablo on. >> Next would be old uh new business D10 Northeast Hunter 7 Street. This another metal roof. This time and 10. 163 01:16:07.040 --> 01:17:04.280 So all we know we don't have is photos supposed to be 12 and read. Um yeah. So they writing their own 164 01:17:09.199 --> 01:18:25.600 photos. What does this house look like? Yes. Also, Doesn't even look like it has any opening. >> Oh, it says 109. >> It's across the street. Uh, no that's 165 01:18:25.600 --> 01:19:04.320 the one on it. So it is that that already is happen and and back, >> but they're all exposed. See, you can 166 01:19:04.320 --> 01:19:49.520 see the end of the trusses have the doesn't visually have all the wire overhang. >> Doesn't have the overhang at 12. All right. Um E new business E. Um 10840 167 01:19:49.520 --> 01:21:10.880 griffid 10927 Northeast Vision change system Well, that one super great house. >> Oh, really? >> Okay. It's a 312. Whatever this roof is, 168 01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:30.199 it say it's flat concrete tile. Saxony 900. What is the revision? It was just a different type of file because >> something in stock or >> approval. So, I'm sure they just 169 01:21:39.440 --> 01:22:41.320 um G 110001 North Courtision Why is it a revision? Well, it might be roof metal. I just saw that. It's like see 76. So understand why 170 01:22:43.520 --> 01:23:31.880 This street photo. >> I don't know. >> You know what? This is the people that built the superal street. I mean, it looks like it has the overhangs. 171 01:23:36.239 --> 01:24:37.960 >> One one like a white band duplex. I think I think Northeast Northeast is So on April 20 we 172 01:24:39.040 --> 01:25:14.080 did I >> I think it's a revision because on April 20 >> okay so yes this is the lady all the stuff. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I know. So I mean looking at the Google view 173 01:25:14.080 --> 01:25:55.280 front >> February March. >> I mean the house looks according to Google Street View looks like it had would have the necessary overhangs and everything for metal roof. Go back and look at the revision. So it has nothing to do with 174 01:25:55.280 --> 01:26:14.159 >> flat roof. >> We approved >> 132 and the skylight we approved in package. March 25. >> So just a correction, G is Northeast 9th 175 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:38.320 Avenue. See anything else? Already approved. >> Yeah, I mean what it is because we skylight. >> I'm looking at the application that's here. It says revision to include flat 176 01:26:38.320 --> 01:27:20.120 addition area >> updating square footage and skyline that's what the revision is. I mean I'd like to know why they H 1190 Griff 177 01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:53.440 they don't have they already I don't know. But they would need Well, actually, this last week we rejected a demo. What are they? >> Yeah, >> but it looks like it's all interior demo 178 01:27:53.440 --> 01:28:27.520 work. >> Which house is this? This is looks like it's all interior. >> Granted, they'll probably need to put a fence up because they're >> literally just applying for interior demolition. >> What do you mean windows? And then the 179 01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:44.239 plan should be polished. >> So this kind of goes back to that that premise of what are they planning on putting in its place. Um because they're never going to be able 180 01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:59.840 to not >> Yeah. Not partial demo. And the thing is is they won't be able to close out the demo permit because they have all this exposed electric, exposed plumbing, all that kind of stuff. I don't know if that's a Pedro thing or or do we need to 181 01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:27.719 catch that or >> far as we're concerned it's an interior demo. I think we're fine. >> They're not putting any additions on Let Pedro uh head it off if he wants to head it off. 182 01:29:29.040 --> 01:30:06.880 >> By the way, just the last time we I left the people that were in such a hurry. demo permit. >> Um J 11315 Northeast 9th Court. This is a temporary fence. >> Hold on. Is there a construction permit? 183 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:41.760 Is this the Rodrigo one that's um on the across from the park? Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Well, the thing is is there building permit? >> I think what's happening now is he's he him I'm not calling out him specifically, but we're getting caught 184 01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:57.600 for having construction fences without having any permits or >> well so there already is a fence there I know there's a fence there right now this >> and that the thing that's happening is those fences are getting cited because there's no active construction permit 185 01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:12.560 behind them and so they're probably now trying to come in and get legalized but unless there's a construction permit then that fence has to come down >> so we I think issue. 186 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:47.960 >> Do we know or not? >> Rodrigo. >> He did that one and he did the one on the corner across from demo. >> He had a demo permit. >> Both of these have to go into the soft. 187 01:31:49.040 --> 01:32:26.000 >> Oh, let's we table it. >> We don't know whether or not there's an actual >> we just approve it. I know. I know. >> Trying to reapply and but he doesn't I don't think he has a construction permit yet. Remember, he just came in and 188 01:32:26.000 --> 01:33:48.040 redesigned the house a little while ago. It's probably sitting at Durm or something. Oh, goodbye. I don't think we should number the benefit of the doubt. >> Yeah. Whether or not there's construction. 189 01:33:49.360 --> 01:34:36.280 All right. Okay. Uh 11827 northeast windows. I think that there's some code enforcement going around on some of those and they're probably that house My battery's about to die. So, let's 190 01:34:39.520 --> 01:35:46.120 >> David 6 L1908. Reve existing and install new tower roof system and flat roof system. My only question would be what color ask I'm it's downloading at 71 pages. 191 01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:58.880 like city >> discussion. A I19 Northeast on 18 Street. Not here. >> Not sure. >> They're not here to talk to us about design. need to be here but >> because we're just basically going to 192 01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:33.119 say okay we're not we're not >> yeah we're not we're not talking about that um because there's nothing but nobody here to discuss it with >> also they're always at 246. >> Oh, this is that one that's way back 193 01:37:33.119 --> 01:38:04.800 that we just approached the demo. >> Yeah. So they're abiding by the 50%. >> Who is this? Augustine Fernandez. >> Remember that one GC came in at question. 194 01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:29.360 Yeah, I don't think that. >> All right. Anyway, they need to come in and talk to us. Um, number C 11107 North >> and we moved we moved uh I down to E12 Northport. That technic was in our 195 01:38:29.360 --> 01:39:11.719 Dropbox. >> Let's look at it. Um 6 I122 single family put on it and they really should be here to talk to us about it. The house has curvy walls. 196 01:39:24.480 --> 01:39:54.320 Yeah, they paid attention to the c back on the left side. They have two segments that are 14 on the second floor and everything else is set back. >> Well, I think he thought that he was like ready, so he he got put on the agenda and he's like, "Oh, they're just 197 01:39:54.320 --> 01:40:18.159 going to approve it." not realizing that we still are like I still think there's some serious blank walls on the side elevations on the left side elev I'm I don't agree with that front wall being part of the 198 01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:45.320 the roof is just a flat roof there's ever a flat top roof roof this is It's the same roof with one little tiny wall in the front. Kind of call that elevation. >> Jesus almost died. 199 01:40:47.600 --> 01:41:33.239 The roof line still in a tube walls. said tree survey. It really should be your do >> or I think it was just a box. It was just they were doing a story on the Interesting like 200 01:41:34.320 --> 01:42:22.239 glass blocks. >> I like it. Seal the deal. >> Rendering with a Ferrari. I will approach that last page Yeah, the door is not like facing facing 201 01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:51.679 to the side. But that stone wall on the right, the door is there. Need to put a visual screen on the back porch. We forgot to or I pointed that it out and then I was just being lazy and 202 01:42:51.679 --> 01:43:11.119 letting you talk about it, Gage, but I just realized we didn't tell about creating the visual on the >> balcony is kind of moved in a little bit. It's not actually on the setback kind of 203 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:59.360 >> could make an argument that it's it's more centered on the No, no, that one. This one definitely. thing is I don't see where they put the balcony on the second floor. Oh, so 204 01:43:59.360 --> 01:44:50.840 So they're actually walking this tower. >> I happened before it glass, >> but I want to make sure that that we know 205 01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:21.679 Well, yeah. >> One way or the other. >> Not yet. >> All right. So, um just um this has to come back to us for further discussion. Um any >> also missing the >> he needs to get some signatures from 206 01:45:21.679 --> 01:45:52.400 that heads. That's my signature. >> All right. So, our next meeting is going to be on the 15th. We're pretty good at that. >> June 15th. >> I am not here, but I said too that that 207 01:45:52.400 --> 01:46:26.480 alternate showed like that's really cute. >> Think so. >> I know that he did all of the stuff show up. Um, but no, I mean, please apply. >> I don't I don't know if I was ever 208 01:46:26.480 --> 01:46:42.080 approved, but >> I just showed up. >> I think you were Max. You were Max little, weren't you? >> Um, anyway, so our next week >> I thought that I was going to be against big houses and then boy was he in for surprise. 209 01:46:42.080 --> 01:46:57.440 >> I'm here on the 15th. >> Are you here in two weeks, >> Ed? Are you here in two weeks? >> 15th? Yes. Uh, end of the month? So, so that's my next question is on July 6, um, are you going to be here? 210 01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:12.960 >> So, we might want to consider moving that a meeting because that's I'm going to be I'll be out of town for the 4th of July weekend. >> Maybe if we can see it in you guys. >> Yeah, I'm I'm here. I can do whatever. >> I'll send an email out about the July 211 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:45.239 15th. >> Oh, June 15th, we're good. >> July 6, there's going to be an issue because Maybe July 13. >> What were you saying earlier?