6 a 6B 6 C 6G 6h um 8 a 8 [Music] B okay thank you 823 I don't know yeah yeah so
okay I didn't get all the rest of 6K hold on 6G 68 6K 78 8 a 8 8 a 8 another
are we are we visha are we running okay everybody ready all right good evening everyone I'm going go ahead and bring this meeting to order um this is the village of bcan Park planning and designing design review board
meeting for Monday March 10th 2025 do the roll call David BR Scarlet Pablo atado Gage tarton I'm here and Denisha from the building department is here but I don't Scarlet's not right she's not here she
she okay David Ed all be say I I okay SC is excuse all right we'll go to the residents that are here and we're going in order of the agenda uh so first everybody's checked in right did you checked in with okay all right so would
be 5B 10917 North or first of all actually I'm sorry I do have an addition um I'm gonna add it as 8D 744 Northeast 113 street is a discussion item to come back to that all right back to 5B 10917 Northeast 9th Avenue ptio
aluminum roof David which okay you like you can go up to the microphone and we have any questions we'll bring it to so just up the last time we ended on the uh this project to uh
the sends on the things that weren declar so you have the survey for the um spes and that amounts into less than the
pr okay is that why we tabled it the last time so that's the part at the top Dimensions di set back so
it's tches cool all right David at on thday eyes I motion carries you're good thank you sir thank you so much next be 5c 11929 Northeast 6th Avenue Front Porch alteration not that
good evening sir I know remember why we back here as a second this is the one that you're doing that the addition on the house you know you're updating that house and then there was the this is the front porch
that we're looking at now yeah is there is there a bigger permit for the rest of the house yeah okay that's what I thought that's was so this is a just a changing to or an addition to the exist that permit it's already existed okay so you're not changing the
location of this porch or anything you're just changing the Arches and so it's a permit renewal they renew the permit from last year so one back on the agenda okay David all favor say I motion
carries thank you sir all right next would be uh new business 6A 670 Northeast 114 Street pool perz bia no did I have that correct 6A right no so 6B is here 6A is not here no oh I
have it cirle 6 a and 6 C are not here but 6B is here so 6 a 6 B 6 C are not here I need 6B okay so we'll come back to that one okay so 6B 75 Z Northeast Under 12
Street um pile roof Doug tanhill okay um I don't know I I have them circled for some reason okay 6C um JD 6 C 760 Northeast 117
Street I don't know what she told I don't know what she I don't know 6760 Northeast under 17 Street 6B for
tanhill I guess not yeah they are you are okay 6 6B 750 Northeast under2 Street T re for tanhill you can go up to the microphone if you if you like I mean we should be hopefully be
cut dry made it on I have six so six in here six a in here so how did I Circle it's because um I had them checked off but actually was here is so SI MRE this gray color all right David Ed all favor say I
I oh you have a question no we're looking at a tile roof here for tanhill 750 what's so the that's the next one so just so 6B just got approve
okay we'll get together this per number okay so sixc now 760 Northeast 117 Street metal and flat roof JD JM DP Consulting right okay all right
just okay so doing confirm and all that right we have a particular doent that's just Village reques you to fill in the dimension
Dimension and color we also need photos we don't have photos fortunately we have table this forlo have to confirm the the pitch you have to confirm the overhang I mean you
have a 312 in here already but the the form shows like okay how how high what is your over your uh your um overhangs around the perimeter of the house what is the fascia around the house there's there's a specific form that is for metal roofs that has to be submitted and
filled out and submitted so so the V has section D that explains exactly uh well I guess it's similar to other section but has a that has to be yeah there's a I would I'm surprised it's not on the the
cap I mean when you go in and apply for a metal roof on cap wouldn't it populate it with you need to fill out the because it looks what he's showing is just the counting missing what's the color what's the
color the midnight Bron which is Brown these are all correct yeah then form yes and you would come back as as old business so you would be at the top of
the agenda so you would come back and you would be because we're going to table this I would imagine right for more information and um you would just if you have that form and the form is complete you should come back and we'll reconsider it as U old business every two weeks we be back in
two weeks yeah yeah thank you sir Ed Pablo all in favor say hi I all right so we're tbling that all right next I believe is 6G 918 Northeast 119
Street impact windows and doors Jonas that correct Jonas is here sir you don't come back again get the again the form usually have to submit photographs to right basically with a tape because the rules are about the overhang you have to have a minimum
overhang so just yeah there's special requirements for metal roofs in the park so just not every house can have a metal roof you have to have a certain architectural details thanks so 6G is here okay so the
discussions item are here the variance is here 6K is here but not 60 6 no so 6K to the end yeah she these names when I sat
down um I just want to make sure we're not missing anybody um uh Silva Diaz Smith nanson nenon okay 6K one 120 North 12015
Northeast 7th Avenue impact door all right sorry we don't normally have this [Music] confusion sure let's just we're just GNA pull up the the the application real
quick is this the front door yeah okay and what's the color of it white okay with a white inner leg glass is that what it is right a okay okay Ed and David all please fa
say I I motion carries okay you're approved thank you thanks let just make sure I'm not missing anybody all right so very the next would be the variance
request 7A 823 noreast 107 Street variance request vinc in front yard have we denied this um yes you did deny this permit okay you did deny so they are requesting a
variance is this done or is this not is it's not done it's it's it's not after the fact or anything is it is this has this been done or this is a new application it's not done okay okay so we have a variance request
for a fence in the front yard um just to be clear right so just um per 11.6.1 location of our code no walls are finished may be located in the front
yard except as provided in subsection C and subsection C is regarding Corner Lots so I'll just to clarify the do I have this is this printed or anything um for the application yeah okay
so just be CLE of that okay so now people are allowed to ask for variants they're right as homeowners uh the recommended variant from this chapter when it's I'm going to read the the grounds for variance uh the board May recommend a variance from this chapter when it is opinion undue
hardship may result from strict compliance it is recommend in recommending any variance the board shall prescribe only conditions that it seems necessary or to or Des desirable for the public interest in making its findings as required here in below the board shall take into account the nature
of the prop use the land extended territory land and buildings in the vicinity no VAR shall recommended unless the board finds there are four points that have to be met and all four points have to be met so you have your application in front of you course it's
sideways um okay so number one that there is special circumstances or conditions affecting the property which that the which are such that the strict application of the provisions of this chapter would deprive the applicant of
the reasonable use of their land meaning all of their land um your answer to that is we don't feel safe using our front yard or even driveway we are on the Main Street 107 Street where cars are constantly
speeding directly in front of our house we've had countless trespassers who have stolen $30,000 worth of human implants okay off our front porch that we Supply to hospitals in South Florida we have this man on video and reported it to the
biscan Park police cars and suspicious people are constantly trespassing into our yard and driveway we have another man on video trying crying okay well that's the first
answer itut off yeah something okay all right okay and I mean if you if you have it there and you want to read it you're welcome to read it in the testimony but I think we got the gist unless there is something more
that okay I'm just I'm number one really on the um strict conditions okay number two that the variance is necessary for the preservation enjoyment of a substantial property right of the petitioner meaning without this variance you wouldn't be
able to use your property substantial property um our dog got hit by a car and broke the leg nearly lost his life we had to pay a 7,000 emergency surgery to fix his leg the other day he almost got hit a second time we'd like to be able
to use our driveway in front yard in peace knowing that our dog and child won't get killed or approached by suspicious trespassers now we have a baby so we'd like to our child to be able to use his front yard playing with his toys and safe environment as well as now no
one can use our front yard without feeling unsafe okay um number three the granting of the variants will not be detrimental to the public welfare or interest to other property in the territory in which the property is situated
[Music] um it does not harm anyone else and we will make the property look nicer our next door neighbor is currently under construction moving is drain field and we are happy to see everybody doing what
they wish with their property okay um the variance proposes the minimum variance which makes possible the reasonable use of the property meaning you're only asking for just a little bit just so that I can use reasonably use my property um correct if granted we could
use the front yard of our property okay um you don't let me ask a question is the chaining fence part is that because you know the distance from there's one on a survey it seems to
go middle of the street do you know the distance from the end of the road to what your line is from the center of the street one line 30 ft you know what that is when I cross reference
survey Google Maps it's question asking from thege of the road to theer yeah basically like if they have a gate here I don't know if that's necessarily enough space for truck orex truck to be able to p
well I mean it could be a truck could pull parallel into the street I mean doesn't anyway but that's besides the point so the the thing is is there's a variance request for this thing you would actually need a second variance because we do not allow chain
links in the front well you have two things you have five foot high chain link fence and then you have a double gate the chain link will be behind well again well plants die so we don't usually take like plants hiding things
as a as a a reason to to do something so you're asking for a chain link and a horizontal so you're asking for like two different style fences so that the chain link itself would need a a variance on itself if it would have to be included
in this variance to be considered because that's a line item that I didn't read that there's no chain L um allowed yeah okay um okay so let's look at the variant request
um and what I'll do is I guess we'll just have to give our comments and then we'll take a vote on um the items um I lost I don't get her it is first would be that the special circumstances affecting the property
which are such that the strict application this chapter would deprive the applicant of reasonable use of their land um so the strict application meaning no fences in the front yard would restrict you from having reasonable use of your land so my first question to you is what about your side
yard and your rear yard you know only three qus of your property is your house and behind you're allowed to put a fence around it so if if I was going to make a con um an argument on reasonable use of your property you reasonably now can
under our code can use three4 percent of your property most likely I haven't looked at the survey and studied like P percentages but that's the special circumstances I don't see where a not having a fence in the
front yard is depriving you of that reasonable use of your land okay again having a fence or not is preventing you from having reasonable use of your property that's item number one um number two and again do does
everybody on the board want to make their own opinions I mean I'm just kind of going for what how I'm interpreting it on item number one no yes I I agree with what you said
letter okay um number huh that the reason that the variance is necessary for preservation enjoyment of substantial property right of the petitioner again that having a variance of not having a fence in your front yard
is is keeping you from not having the preservation enjoyment of substantial property right of the prisioner in the backr the that the granting of the variants will not be detriment to Public Welfare I think that's that's just seems
like a pretty I don't see how it would be but yeah I agree with you on that any other and that the variance proposes the minimum variance which makes possible the Poss the reasonable use of the property so the the two key words in
there is minimum so minimum meaning do you really need to have to go all the way out to your property line in order to have reasonable use of your property again what is reasonable what is a minimum if you wanted to put a fence in your front yard that would give you
reasonable use and again it comes back to point number one 3ars of your property you have complete access don't have to worry about your child running into the street um it's not depriving you of of use so is having the prop the fence on the property
line a re is a minimum variance is that the minimum that you can do that would provide you that reasonable use okay okay so uh so those are the three point the Four Points um to me personally I
don't see one two or four um we again and we only make a recommendation to the Village commission um it's the village commission that makes the final decision but we as a board make a recommendation based on our expertise and how we see
the law so I would open it up to my fellow board members see if they make any practice this by saying I'm not personally opposed to G right take up at some point
um so with that being said right I I do think that variances rare exceptional and although those four points right all
four of those points do that right me really the first one the most important from that right so the first one is like what's exceptional to that proper what is the circumstance that hardship that you uniquely experience that everyone else in Village doesn't
experience that would make you your property deserving of VAR to our Cod right I would say probably on theedge so we are on that I think you would say that you're on a busy street very but then what follows is that
everyone on I think you SE either grandfather before the co years ago there was a variance approv recently for unque speaking of what is unique about that property property considered they had a circular driveway that had access on
drifting 11 I think it was cars drive [Music] have you reported that to the police that would be a police issue like talk about it when I police report because that's that's
that's a trespassing thing I mean that's literally like hey police officer these they're people trespassing in our house kind of thing that's not you know stuck in traffic which is like what he was a lot of people ask slow traffic and a lot of cops pull over
people right in Fr of house so you know it makes especally sixth know and I appreciate so I live on Griff and I have a two-year-old daughter right and and my wife and I have the same concern that right um
my point being I think that first is the most grate all the other ones just need to JY particular are asking certain I just don't see you know having home street so many
homes right so at that point that's sufficient enough different right so for me I just have a very difficult time
idea a legitimate one right a lot of traffic child concerned about your concerns part it's just not circumstance that's exceptional need to your property that's what I would have a hard time
from after that the other points and the cops are just well you know you're in one of the safest neighborhoods in mi County right yeah but I'm just saying you're not living in a high crime neighborhood so don't you know I I I I get I cringe
when I hear people say I I'm afraid of living in my front yard when we live one of the nicest neighborhoods so yeah and I'm sorry about your your business but have you thought about having your packages delivered to like a business address or something that's
maybe you don't have the issue with porch packages porch Pirates basically I'm just trying to say you know having packages is not saying that you're not being able to use reasonable use of your property so I'm just the
testimony is not um supportive of of um of U the the gers so against the nature of what a VAR right it's this hard shap that that you have no alternative solution so the idea that you have hard
[Music] you can that's your concern so again is that condition for variance that you don't have hard if if and I'm just asking question curiosity if it was if there was no Fen
associated with this simply the gates to stop people that weren't supposed to be able to come would you be looking at it about it anything differently or is it even if it was variance just for the G that the
thought the thought process it's it probably be the same just because it's the code is clear on fences in the front yard do for me edges fo or six foot tall pedri Gat right in the front of your
house people have very dense tall Edge and then they have a small gate and private access that's per right so like if you wanted to put that if you wanted to put that a pedestrian gate in that the UPS first could open the gate put the put the package behind the Hedge
inside of the gate inside of a pedestrian gate that's there's there's there's a thing forward in no it's pedestrian not a dry have a big hedge you have this little pedri gate in the middle I don't know if your driveway
centry things that y yeah a lot of people again have you know edges in the front and have that get so with all that being said okay so
um so I any other public comments no or not public board comment okay all right so um we we'll take it to vote um I based on the one two and four I would vote no on the recommendation
for this variance I'll pass it down you guys yeah I mean oh here it is okay so she did have but it's still we'd have to vote yay or nay so so just so you guys know I live on and
I would definitely create a a paper trail on that and be like you know um you know like an example would be the the the the the house that had the drive-throughs they actually had police reports of people being caught going through their properties you know so if there's if if you're GNA say that
there's people a problem people parking the one of the questions that's going to come up is well what has the police done about it and if you don't have if You' never called about it then they're going to say well is this really problem so so I would I would definitely but the interesting thing is is that Miami Country Day they come to
our commission and they've been all about trying to be better neighbors with us and one of their things that they're supposed to be patrolling is the stopping the drop off and pickup of pro of of of uh students at 107th Street to
go across the bridge so there should be somebody from Miami Country Day there kind of patrolling that it doesn't happen so so they are they're they have committed us they are going to be trying to stop that so yeah so yeah
um what were you looking well I just so I had a vote a verbal vote from David but I saw the vot the votes here so that you know sympathize with you I have a twoy old a Oney old and I don't let them out
in theard have to be with them and make sure they quot it be very clear so you have to agree with that other okay so you have a so unfortunately our recom we're not going to be making a recommendation again you can go up to the Village commission you've paid for
it you can uh make your case to them um it it's you're you're you're not dead you know but uh we as a board would are recommending that not to approve it so okay um so they would be um they're I I I
don't know how long it takes but they usually have a special meeting for variances it might be one or two months or so um that would be up to the The Village um staff to to tell you um and then when that is they'll let you know when it's happening and you definitely
got to make sure you're there to represent yourself and make your case I would follow up okay I would follow up maybe with we would have to coordinate with the village clerk to see when the Commissioners will be able to view your variance application from this meeting
date so you can always stop by Village Hall Monday through Thursday 9 A.M to 5:00 p.m or on Fridays from 9:00 a. to 12: and discuss this with the village clerk on when they'll be able to schedule this before the Commissioners um but or maybe even send
an email to the Village clerk saying we were on the agenda last night this is our address uh we have a variance application can you please let us know when it's going to be but it's now really kind of I think in the village Clerk's uh purview because she has to schedule the actual variance request now
it's kind of left building department and now it's over in the village Clerk's U hands okay I would I would write her an email I would be proactive proactive just you know friendly hey you know kind of thing so
okay thank you all right all right make sure I'm not missing anybody feel like there's more people than there's left things no that's all eight no okay so next would
be 8 a630 Northeast 117 Street construction preliminary r view as these gentlemen over here no this gentleman over here yes 6:30 this is first preliminary yeah okay so that's 68b
those yes that you're planning Ono the house so that's very to hous all right so open that line so first thing would be what is your site what's your square footage
what's your cover so we're doing the 5387 but that's everything that's the slabs for the acit that's everything 15 rear 14
yeah living space is but everything including pool and the driveway Drive anything ground has to be cannot be more so you're well I mean we're we're going on the fact that his calculations are
correct not we're not the max was 5,437 to 537 so your sets are so your setbacks are fine you I don't know if they have an eyebrow and they're just know some which is
municipalities if you've got like an overhang you can't count below so now Second Story you have a 30 foot maximum at it's at the set where this here so you're at you're fine there and then over here
the same question you're at 14t you're at right a rule that at the second level you only have no more than 30 linear feet at the minimum setb 10 anything
beyond 30 linear feet has to be set back five more feet 15 in the Second Story the second story so on your second Story You've got 30 this is 37 ft wide just so happen you're setting back 14 already you're not
106 no no so you need to either on option set all this back one fo or you're only over by S you have 30t so somewhere you set back only seven foot of this another
you actually have more here because you're at 12 plus 14 so you're at 16 so you have one foot to play over here and you add one foot over here okay so you understand so and then now the next
thing would be minimizing the U into your neighbor's yard um so in the back 2/3 of the house so this window this window these two windows what do these
look like we have elevation these sides first floor is 126 first first story is full6 and second St is6 from the ground 25 so you're 28 from base flood plus one yeah so so you're at
here 28 Max which this is 266 that 165 shadow shadow Shadow ISS right here from the
front but you have two different elevations but the other thing too is like it would bece maybe it a little you the windows so so so the windows on the side that face your neighbor have to
be designed in the way that they they diminish The View into your neighbor so in the rear two so this sides the second floor on the sides basically you into your neighbor's
backyard so we don't we don't prescribe how to avoid that the Cod figure out a way to diminish use so that could be C story window instead of a full height window window that
be yeah like these women go to the floor that would be the thing why have go floor you know window are down looking out straight they looking
what a lot lot of on do rer top where your head would be this like so like these two types of things hey this is right so
can't it's just and you obviously you're taking trying to take an effect kind of so you have to know design way that's you know that allow it here have
that's what I was say but this entire balcony yeah that's what [Music] I now have so they should be done within probably the next 30 minutes to an
hour okay and they can't get to monit they go through every well so they have so they have two of the discussions and then they'll talk to you about your permit that's the reason why I said you can come in as a discussion but they're
not really going to make a final vote I know it's but it's just like so frustrating yeah right to so he kind of knows what so the thing is they don't have your permit um so it will have to be the
next do I guess I guess keep it on so he doesn't have any of the actual until they have they would talk to you about it about what you would need to do this is
that he nexts you have what time is Mee whenever it's done or is it like a certain time I cannot give you an estimate because again it depends on how long they get through each item specific speci items they do
take up time I come back every 30 minutes if you need be huh if need be because again it take him my hour to get to the next three discussions again I would go like like 9:00 at
night sometimes it's 8 8:30 there's three left there's three left after this there's two left and then be your yeah I'm I'm G to come back so however you want to do that
Windows you didn't have here really [Music] I'm buying the one 6883 just right in front of this one the yellow see the yellow one that's very old house right did that
yes or something put some beautiful Story one story it's part so my com would be because this just looks like you know it's a very it looks it looks like the
house is built up on a pedestal and you got two steps maybe long elongating making it a little bit more you know just something that's that's G to make a little bit more like you're coming up to not entering an office
you're entering at home [Music] it's not well it's one story that's one that's the first sir you saying the house orme no we want to
look Pi yeah he Rend but to add just so you know exactly like for new construction do this three times we we need thee survey before final yeah we had
so um yeah so this is the first discussion you're do hopefully take our advice and come up with alterations you'll bring it back again we at it again but you you'll make a revision you'll let them know when you're ready to be
put on the agenda for a second you'll come back like this and'll discuss item perfect and you'll let them know when you're ready and you you said there's three do three times so one two will be with the changes and if we find other things
second the reason we do it is sometimes we might not notice something and you not like appointment so it will be sent back to you so you can upload the new plan and then you can always email the building department that
like he said he might come back but he was it was taking a while so he did leave yeah right all right yeah so I'm move into the that's
everything here one one of the questions I if yeah those papers didn't exist and it was grass then we would say oh that's is it overing the set um not in the rear but in the front
that's question I had that's a separate issue because it's a different issue under the have so now jump over to the cport what is the cport made going be aluminum okay so aluminum carports have a different
section in our code so carports actually have a 5 foot front the 5ot side um set okay but they also have a maximum of 20 by 20 sides so your columns are here you're within the five and five as long
as this grp structure does not go 20 or 24 18 or whatever we need to's your's the RO I don't know diens but it's 24 across so you you would want your driveway to be either 20t to have like little bump
out for your or other it's look weird yeah we don't want that no no the idea is definely I'm going to have to P it we don't have a lot of
I'm what's good about the problem is that you also have a big push black here many people as far as that you understand and the Very this it's aluminum and can that's what the defition so if you do it all
aluminum you're allowed to do it but if you want to make it aluminum canvas you can do that well except steel any canvas carard is got Steel Two structure right but it can be metal roof oh
yeah call right have a covered parking area that can be whatever it wants part of the house then has to the house back out here you have a 30 foot front side back right so if this from here to
here is a is an aluminum wall you're within your set no I mean you still can covered I'm just saying if you wanted to put [Music] your yeah so you can bring concrete
wall part of house and then a separate floating 20 by is you could fill it in right and go 20 foot out from there is as long as
but it's this would have to be like part of the house have have to be and the other part too is well other thing that I would say too is depending on on you get to do the car
ports and stuff like that needs to be made out of aluminum right you can't make the sides be like can't make a solid aluminum wall but you put a whole bunch of elements in it to like visually break it up to manipulate it to change it so that
like you're not going to want to put anything on this front side anyway like if you run a bunch of H onever then that's still part just design there's zero part of they but a cardboard is supposed to be open
it just talks about the size materal no it doesn't now You' got me curious so yeah no I no it says a covered area or Sheltering a motor vehicle yeah a covered but that doesn't say you cannot
have a wall a church a factory a airplane hanger are you have a lot of things going on here um what were you talking about this Asal area no no drain or out here there's a
lot drains up they would be in the right away if you had one there are some up so this this would have to be like this you have to take out this asle you're approach same and then you have a 40%
coverage here of of parking service and you have a 40% lot coverage here so this can't be all asphal over this has to match this he's ni we is the neighborhood has to go out that we can take advantage
that this street is is out of control with asphalt parking um there's a long history of what happened on that street has to do with the fact that they they went in and put all these brains in and they dug up a lot of drive a lot of things so they had to replace it
so technically each one of those properties came in and did what you're doing we slowly we would slowly make them go back to 40% okay that become a The Only Exception would be is if you have a drain then we would say okay the
area around drain has to have with asphalt so that the water you know that's the way the engineer had designed it to get the water on the street got it so FY if you if you kept at 24 which I think going look
kept it 24 which is a little bit bigger based off of your wi you could bring it straight out but you couldn't do a whole bunch of extra weird crazy stuff like pretty much everything else would have to turn 32% coverage you could do like a little
triangle but but you could like build a whole other Park and at 41 ft you're providing four parking spaces like PL parking spes to provide the now at the second here the so the second important there is
second here which isil neb but you're way set back yeah we are so so our thing would be 15 15 so looks like our code this group of this volume we have a ro so what happens is that we connect
top that but that get to the roof deck does the roof deck have a roof or does that any structure that's above 28 we are maxing now because I know that
maximum like right so open but we're going to to talk about right you have a ter right on the side here that you stand and look down on there the idea some in theimer to
create that barrier we no we're going to have to lower the roof a little bit because we already past the maximum you have the roof requirement that we need protction so it's gonna be a two inches from
the the m so you're gonna be 28 feet with a roof really at 24t you're going to have 42 in or let's call it 2 no theck and be will be essentially the G height no so he's just saying
so three and a half foot tall planner wall so your your roof your occupi deck is at 25 so if you have all this here your neighbor privacy and we're going to get a lot of black for that okay you know I mean this you have a you
have a big set back this is on the second floor open Flor but it's it's it's an open Second Story deck yes okay not open yeah we have Rend in the back but this is like
you know 22 24 26 ft back I don't think we really have an issue with the no you have this Mas that go going the visual view into your neighbor I don't think we come so to your point again to convince
everyone that it's adequate but if you're putting three there not going to get closer than six feet to the edge and I'm already set back you know I think you can make the argument that there's no sight line right this is this is the yeah
I'm again you just have to figure out a solution that addresses this diminishing view into your neighbor right that's yes experience to us in the past it adds a lot of value just to have full place where High have a conversation imagine adding having a
conversation with your partner or whoever up there um anyway I would I would you know we're we're looking at is this Point yeah 28 ft and if if you're going to do something like this is this that that
means that point has to be 28t whatever highest point is g to be 2 and then if you're going to go down this then I would want you to ask you know you do some kind of diagram he said do and show us like line of sight like
that you're not looking you're not yeah we make so I kind of like it because again money returnal Val but you know we get tired of these just like all white parap right if you landscape that border have be coming over the edge
actually soften the architecture you got the right planting on so I think be a benefit to your neighbor to see that rather than how you hand accept I'm just say you know we have a
28 foot high limit for a reason now somebody's coming in and putting they put so what happens with they put like a like High on the ground floor so
not this is be to that to the of the now Windows yeah make it smaller for we need to be certain size there
there's yeah two is the yeah so one of our Cod our code does say that know we're trying to avoid flat top single level roofs so the entire front of this house
side side one car yes so can we break this up a little bit and do something that's G make it have I the cre that know knocking it down a little
bit keep Mass here and then maybe you look your whole side it's like a super interesting dnam the front is kind of Ware yeah the middle section is is is higher too that's highest part of the
thenes something we just TR to in the and thenode does say that the sides need to have like undulation and articulation to prevent blank massive blank wall I think
this [Music] they have this huge outside deck on Second Story that overlooks the neighbors you know it's all built properly they're not looking down today but if you look at the for sale thing it's kind like what exactly is
some feed a discussion right is this actually not an actual application yet it's it has discuss it's just discussion so I'm guess um by we've been told and we can
find online um we don't know we actually apply to start the for the review of the city or is it that we first have to go through process with you guys then once that's approved then we can start the application you have to go well you can
apply you can start the appli but you have to get approv by us before building would not know that when you you that tap system whatever it's GNA Force you the first time add structural drawings add
this add all the that we we're telling you don't do yet upload blanks blank blank sheet put cvd to let you move past the first step it forces you to upload stuff that you know you may not have so we're GNA this your
first we'll not it as first RW you tell about the keeper what the current what's Curr already there so they'll just wait for you to you'll let them know when you're ready to come
back and so HC all right so 8A and 8B are both being moved to second review okay 8C Sally hi 11501 Northeast 11 Place discussion so do you have you have a PL you want to show us
too you just want to go up to the microphone and talk to us about what you're looking or do you have something in your hand that you want us to look at so yeah they have to we have to be able to hear you so is it on our Dropbox no she didn't submit anything
and sir thank you for waiting sorry no they didn't up a discussion all right Sally good evening okay so everybody knows Mr Pao
so we've been here a few times to discuss the driveway the thing is my husband and I feel he's traveling right now so he couldn't show up but we have I I know you guys remember
our driveway has that easement for the fpnl TR I don't know yeah so just to recap you have a permit for driveway we approve it I believe I think did I thought we can you look it up I thought
we had approved remember one discussion with her one discussion with you and your husband she's been she's been multiple but I thought you were done because I I keep seeing I live near you um I keep seeing that you have you're slowly doing
improvements per the the plan I thought I thought you had already gotten your your approval okay I'm going to make a like really long story short but last year we were trying to get the
son I got called way to my uh brain t house because my grandson had a brain tumor and so I spent a lot of time there back here so my cousin said right it's not it's not an approv for
right we had started to pull it but we were discussing and stuff with you guys so the thing is we we feel like we feel that this was an existing driveway already because there's that e there so
that's an existing driveway yeah but it wasn't but that was but the existing driveway was just it was just like a dirt path it wasn't actually I don't think there was any surface to it I thought we were on the right track of what you were gonna do so so what the way that it ended was we threw out on
the thing exactly what we would be able to approve and said hey you take this and upload this then it can be approved we drew out with the two of them and remember we talk about the little border pieces that you already had on there rearranging them with the
gra all that we have all the Border pieces so so but we drew it out to where you guys wanted it and we're like all right if you just my h but is that is that what we drew is that
still acceptable to you or it's not [Music] acceptable we don't want to put I don't want to put gravel there and I just want to keep that the way it is and we we put a in the front you know when you drive
in and out we reped that I have and put stuff underne supposed to put in and we have ORD and we the reason that I don't want to gra in there is because I walk around
back there a lot and I'm I trip a lot and I fall myself now I know you might not you might say love too B but I just I'm just here because this house to go to theard on R thing and
we do we put the borders in we fix the we fix the CR car it looks really good I have pictures if you want to see them just but but are youings on dirt or yeah why not
because ATD and contest has been driving on that road for as long as we've been there and probably longer so that's very sturdy that's a very sturdy grow there we' had huge Whenever there was a h
because the pole was in our backyard okay so I mean we've had two or three trucks driving on this road for years so we but we put the borders in think it looks good like I pictures we think you I know I mean I drive by I mean you're right around the corner for
me so but I mean I it's funny because you've been doing the improvements that we reviewed with you so I'm like okay they're they're following the permit plan whatever reason I told you about traveling because of my grandson was because while
I was traveling and my husband wasn't traveling he said oh I have to get this done and it looks great by the way what you're doing looks good with the you got the borders now they're all lined up it looks just if you just got a dump truck full of gravel and dumped it in the
middle and spread it out you would I think you would be me the thing is is that you have to provide parking on a parking surface that's the code so dirt is not a parking surface the code talks about parking surfaces shall only be constructed with
the following materials concrete Pap brick gravel asphalt cutstone a Turf block those are the only choices for acceptable driveway surface and that's not something that like we can make an exception of like we do not have that
power to do that yeah we just can do what's in the code unfortunately and that's why we were so trying to be creative with the way to draw it so that we're like all right cool this is how we can improve this no problem okay so okay so G you
seen it so it you think it looks pretty good except for the ground I mean so what they've done is they've taken the the round things and they've laid them out and they're using those as the borders so they're concrete they're round they're on the side so I'm thinking okay they're they're within the the Cod I drive every K to school and
and I honestly I thought that it was already done and per Clos sorry that and I guess I'm we're probably G to get you might get in trouble because you've been told to get a permit and you still haven't got the the permit I know
so the question would be can you just can you just you're almost at the finish line and could you just get a nice small fine gravel that's a certain you have there is a requirement and put it in to the thing and you and you're walking on
that in a nice gravel is not gonna you're not GNA trip I hope okay so but what I would say is that if you go in tomorrow to fill out the permit paperwork thing and upload that permit paperwork and you have to go to
the code meeting on Wednesday you could say hey I went to the planing and Zoning thing on Monday please bring those back we'll pick if you want us to pick one we'll pick one for were applied
yesterday do you have the do you have the drawing there that the last drawing that we that we worked on no because the survey which is what you guys Dre I had two copies and when I got here I noticed I have this do you have it at
home yeah I have it so we're going to be here for at least another uh maybe 40 30 minutes so if you want to run home and grab that other drawing the one that we said if you did this you should there's no point us
looking you doesn't have an application I know but we could at least say that's the one if you just apply you upload this drawing you use that gravel you just scan it on your computer oh like goex yeah
yeah as long as it can fit on a just's take a picture of it and send the picture more no to the upload it to the the the system you take a picture of drawing your phone upload that picture for your per application that's your
drawing up okay so I can go into I think it would probably be smarter to go because they have them on the wall right next to you just say hey which of the driveway things do I need
driveway yeah they'll tell you like you need that form and that form so I've been instructed not to do that so you would have to upload all those documents that can help you with every application you need but you'll need to scan and upload them create a cap portal account and then you'll have
be able to Linda give her maybe ask Linda to help you out yeah that one that one I'm talking about referring to scanning documents yeah but they can tell you which documents oh okay you need that that you
just but bottom line is you're gonna have to put some kind of gravel or some kind of surface down you just can't leave it dirt I think that was your initial question for us was can I just leave it dirt like dirt yeah unun and you're almost at the finish line so
yeah tomorrow well she's got code enforcement on Wednesday is it is that what you're saying called me and said you fin so you have to come to the me I would just go and plead and say I came to pnz on Monday and we're going to
submit an application I just need help submitting it and um they'll review it and um yeah you know work with you you know please work with me I I don't know I mean they might be at their wits end with you because they might have like said okay you've been working with you
for the last year um but that's up to them that's a whole another board and that's they get to um you know um do that but you can at least say that you're working with us okay and we we want you to get your driveway I have to go and give a progress report
okay it didn't say that they were G find me do this that okay just say we've been working on it I you know they might say well you get your permit and that might be a sticking point um that you're working on it without a permit um but um get the application in
tomorrow um if it there's it hasn't there's never been an application actually so she hasn't submitted the actual driveway application you've been coming in as discussion items so the next up would let's let's get an application in tomorrow application is have you seen
that application it's like not very resident friend I'm gonna have to ask you to go I I we have to record all this I'm sorry just so just so you're on okay the application for the for the
driveway is not very resident friendly because they ask for like a lot of weird things that we don't know what they're talking about because pay a contractor yeah what she say it's because it's stuff that contractors would normally do and you're
doing and you're doing yourself you're you're acting as your own cont yeah so you can just put not appliable non applicable you know um so to certain things um I I I I would imagine Linda or somebody could just
take a time to walk through or ask for the oldfashioned permit and write it out by hand and then hand it to somebody to upload for you you know will they do that I I I would hope so there's got to be special accommodations for residents
that you know that are doing it themselves so to come so do you do you do you have gravels that you like that you want to show us that we can so just can you show it to us I mean you want to put
it just set it there on the table and no no thatou it it's nice I mean is it a river St organically grown I
think what is the minimum size head oh huh 38 must be 38 and and and this and that but I don't think like I think all three
these would be acceptable yeah because I got lot don't tell my husband that because every morning it's get a little you number it's reference drive right yes thank you thank you so much
all right and if you know where I live so you don't just ask me you know you always see me leaving for work in the morning you I can so I can always give you you know okay I mean I'm not supposed to
like talk I won't say it's approved but if you have a question saying hey what do you think I I can I'll give you my opinion yeah but I'm so frustrated with this and you know all right s thanks for waiting I appreciate it
okay I have come back though right for it will have to come back to us yeah you don't have to come back as long as it's the thing that you said everything is uploaded we have like 10 on these 10 10 conf that we have to do where the people
aren't here today right so after we do him then we still get a hang out for a while but you'll be you'll be further up on the agenda you won't have to wait till the very end if you have an application okay good thank you thank you
thank you all right bye tiisha bye thanks all right um so our Walkin was 8B 744 Northeast under 13 street I'm sorry so what's your last name Salo s i n okay we at time have to we'll pick this up
for the next one okay so here's the situation on this um they they got an approved permit um for a roof okay they put a new roof on when they took off the roof they discovered a lot of wood damage
they had to repair the damage but it was such enough wood damage that they had to rebuild parts of their carport correct okay the building official said they have to get a permit for that work he's applied for it he thought he was GNA be on our agenda tonight but it seems like
you're on a you're under a time frame well yeah I I had the email where he was told that he was gonna be on the agenda Che to the existing house rep yeah it's all it's all it's it's basically like a repair of the structure so he's going to
have to come back in front of us again with an actual application for it well the application that you have is gonna have to come for us but I told him that we would look at it and give the okay for it to move on to the other trades so that he's moving forward through the process and we so zoning we're going to
say okay we're not approving it we're just saying release this please because he's he's applied for it he's he's he's paid the fees move it forward and then it'll come back in two weeks we'll give it our official stamp but we're gonna let you like I told you earlier it'll
just go through so I got a motion second decision to yes okay so where is that g to be for inform where is when I go so we're letting so what what would be the next step though hey
look for me it's his handwriting in description word he told me it was going to be here whatever reason didn't get on so just make make sure I understand he applied for an application for the structure he did not make it onto our agenda how I don't know okay was
literally there he told the woman this is going to be on the 310 thing yes it's gonna be on the 310 it happens sometimes so you actually have an application we are saying that we dis approved it but it's G to have to because it has to be published on our agenda it's going to come back in front
of us in two weeks but no we're telling her right now that we're approving it got it okay but we're gonna have to like rubber stamp approve it again in two weeks and hopefully none of your neighbors come out and complain and have an objection to it because that's technically the reason why things are published is so that the not people are
notified that there is something going on there yeah okay um it never happens but a code violation as a result of this and a heing on Wednesday with everything that you said including what the building inspector
said I don't even know if who was the building inspector to be honest honestly don't even know the main you're the no I think it was code enforcement it wasn't even I don't even think it was the building exp so the main thing is that you've applied for a permit correct you paid for the
permit for planning planning yeah hold on there's different things here does he have an application in with a with a permanent application for that okay so the reason why he probably received a code um code violation is because he repaired this
without a permit yeah no I got but so I'm now I'm back tracking a little bit because I thought we had a approved a a a permit application that was submitted for planning and board zoning to be to review it but it didn't make it to our agenda correct he's just
saying he just paid to get on to the agenda okay so if you guys review this you probably would say he's missing calculations and you know okay so what he has
uploaded uploaded photos he just uploaded photos but is there an application with the yeah there he has has a building application yes with a permit number that's all saying got a process he's got a proc yeah so he has the building application
okay then he has the pre and post pictures okay I I he literally removed he replaced some some joist yeah and he replaced the decking yeah and a certain in the carpo that's it to me that would be part of our
building roof approval he didn't add anything or subtract anything or anything like that yeah I mean I guess's concern is that you know Roofing is one kind of permit which is the stuff that goes on top of the right the problems so
they start yeah but as far as zoning goes just wants to getf to those reps just explain that they're not these things
happen more damage underneath getting Le on you start repairing that and then okay Co says stop get a per for that that's what this that's what you're doing now zing and there's nothing in what he's doing there that we would have an issue as far as zoning
go so what you tell them on F on Wednesday you go you tell them I I applied for a perit for the roof plan Planning and Zoning reviewed it and approved it but it's still gonna have to come back for publication okay but you I mean you just have to tell them that we
that you apply they're they're they just want to make sure that you're doing what you're supposed to so you've applied for your permit planning is zing has approved it now it's going through the building department and they're probably going to go okay great thank you don't details coming back to
us leave that out just say applied approved now it's in the building department so it's in you're making the effort to to rectify the the um the uh notice whatever they gave you so now I can go through cap and put
everything in there yes yes because we just released it from zoning all right all right thank yeah it's been it's been a thing but hopefully I was here over almost a year ago to start the it's still Ono thank
you thanks for putting a tile roof on there yeah all right um okay back up to we have the minutes from the last meeting yeah yeah by the way he's he's a wood frame house on 113th Street that they had a
shingle roof and he took it off and put a tile roof on so it's amazing that that would be one of those candidates for you know the variance type of thing and the fact that they actually went through the process of going ahead and they're putting it on there
that's I know I know okay so I have the minutes from our meeting of February 24th 2025 let's take a look at it I thought we went through all that stuff with Sally and they had approved that plan and we had approved it I really thought we had voted on it and
everything got a lot of things done last meeting a lot of approved and the one it show the one with David recused himself which one was that on that was
that was um six 6f yeah so so 6f should be yeah three and it says does it say that David ruse yeah it does okay so that's a three oh look at all this summary
here some ly that's really went crazy here all right [Music] motion okay Edward David all in favor say I motion carries on the
minutes all right next will be 5A one9 Northeast 106 Street metal roof yeah so this is under old business so we the last time we did it it says submit a solution for gabled edges of the roof if there is no overhang and taped measured pictures of
the roof overhang so did they provide any of that did take pictures 12 [Music] in well I'm looking at page number 11 it shows it looks like the Gable and the
one end it looks like it does have an overhang picture number 11 is the is the yeah if you look at page number 14 picture number 14 you actually see the one end of one Gable it looks like there
is a an overhang yeah talking about just that four foot deep section where the building pops out there nothing there it's longer than that if you look on Street like that's the exact pent I talk
if you look on Google street that edge doesn't have doesn't have anything and when you go past to the end of the house the other direction right this whole
back section of roof this section of roof do not seem to have the overhead okay can I can y'all look at picture number nine which is page nine of there's a roof already on this house is this the same house I don't know that's they're a what of an example or
something that's a different house yeah think that's just a okay so this is the three 12 so I'm sorry David where in that where is it that your concern is I'm trying to look at look at page page 14
okay 13 that se like there Shadow from flashing but there's no overhang there like I'm I'm all for it doesn't satisfy but like you can see on Google
street all it has Splash straight drop and then the same goes with if you go to the end of the house you look back at the house basically driveway F the house yeah then there's two roof lines neither of which have any overw so you're saying
on the left side of the house there's no overhang correct well on on any of the ends there's no overhang there's overhang on the front but if you look at page number yeah they just keep piing different photos of the front over but if you look
at page number 11 it does look like the right that there is an overhang on a Gable there this side here going back and forth by Google street view this side's also FL
so see there's no overhang on this on either of the two ends I would have to do similar to that house that's that's across Scarlet where they did that bu out yeah and we just and we
just did it with um another house on 10th 11th whatever where they add they applied a couple layers of Tu by To The Ends to to build it out to create
some so ocean and I pending need to extend the two uh ends of the house the East and West End have the same overhangs if we H them the East West
understand it is the East and West End Gables West would be the gables East and West Gables need to have some over okay I have a motion to deny okay David add on say hi I okay so we're denying
this still waiting on overhangs okay 6A 670 Northeast on 14th Street um forz it's for a
pool it's right around here somewhere 70 so they're at 49% lot coverage [Music] 97 no so walkway we
don't water line okay so doesn't count no it's the water line yeah that that's the decking so it's 16 no 18 into the
back 25 to the right and 25 to the left it's right smack in the middle of the backyard decking you can go up to about like 30 30 36 inches to the property because it's it's all like great it's just de you know the pool is the actual
accessory structure not the decks around it and then the lot coverage they were like right smack at 49% okay Ed David on I okay um 6D 779 Northeast 119 Street impact
door y 6D it's just a door a single door David it's just a side like uh David Ed all paper say hi hi next to be 6E 835 Northeast 12th Street pool and sunshelf
what is this dra 835 Northeast 12th Street New Brown concrete pool sun is there a survey I'm looking at septic tank oh there it
is I see4 you calculated or just show it 51.4 so that's that's but let's let's look real quick at the where this pool is going 26 26 so the very last drawing
okay so 10 foot 10 foot 10 foot okay so they're being denied because the they're over their lot charge okay make a make the pool little or just take 12T wide instead of
1 it's that little area right there on the left isn't it oh basically it's a step down that was a motion to deny someone was that David y David add on say hi
okay 6f 861 Northeast under 19th Street interior model OKAY oop this is usually when they send us to these we gotta they want us to look at something okay so it looks like it's was
a duplex and it's remaining a duplex okay it's odd proposed floor plan it's just another same duplex interesting I mean you think the economics of today would be take it out
make it a single step make it a single family right they're not touching it if they need a roof they got to come in for a roof per if they want to do redo the windows they got to come in for the roof but I just see electrical yeah propose electrical Ed David all fav say hi hi
next would be 6 I one one5 Northeast on 19th Street impact windows and doors didn't do oh we oh I'm sorry okay sorry 6G excuse me part of the earlier confusion 918 Northeast on 19th
Street we didn't check what zone they're in they're in a Zone that's no longer allow as interior model not not onast but the question is would did they did they ever discontinue you using it as a duplex yeah because they was a
duplex before and they're making two duplex now they're allowed to do that yeah even it's a an interior remodel doesn't it is in zone B so it is in a single family Zone but again it as long as they didn't discontinue it it
can yeah so it was fine know I too late even well I mean it doesn't have a demolition order against it or something like that that would that like some other things
yeah 6G 918 Northeast on 19 Street I think that was somebody else Spar the guy so this is Fred isn't it two doors and one window right
our corner so he's not changing anything in the front he's just changing the front door and a window in the back and a window in the door in the back David Pablo all favor say I I carries all right next 6h 920 Northeast
on 19th Street exterior paint a Rosy color crey the door's black bottom it they're doing a preast like chair room below that
what I like I like the name for Simon it's funny but uh it's a nice pallet it's cute to improve David Pablo say hi I next 6 I 1015 Northeast on 19th Street
impact windows and doors he is Diaz okay so ew existing window existing door what is she applying what are they applying for in the back frame white color clear
page five so they're all in the back they're aluminum casement windows fixed windows out swing door yeah David Ed all say hi hi CHR carries next 6j 1082 Northeast 9th
Avenue garage door installation okay um Ed David on say I I okay motion carries okay I think we've completed our agenda did I miss something six Gade they were here they were present we approved it for
a so I think [Music] we did everything okay our next meeting is going to be in two weeks 24 you will okay so just emails in that you're
not coming okay so there only two people the 24th I will not be I wasn't supposed to leave until Tuesday but I had to go Friday so you wouldn't even be here if we rescheduled
it you're out of town you're traveling Fray and I'm back on Thursday so I could do that Thursday Monday can we look at the Village website this G
the calendar is free that week huh the calendar is free that week so it be didn't the commission I think the commission made a meeting for the 25th haven't added to the calend yet um
26 Davis said he won't we don't know if scar will be able to make it for this meeting hey guys real quick um so Ed there's no way of knowing if whether or not you might be able to make it back that night I just that I'm driving up depends on what time we end up are you
available the 25th and the 26th yeah I come back that day so so can we find out if Scarlet is ailable I'm available the 25th and the 26th so they're both out of town so if we can find out if Scarlet is
available and If either the 25th or the 26th and we can reschedule the meeting for for one of those days I think the commission set a meeting for the 25th if you did the night of the 27th or on
I'm so let me hold on so if we can just pull the 25th or 26th so it's the 25th or 26th okay follow motion to adjourn please second motion to okay second David Ed or yeah all in favor say I I so
called the motion was it David David then Ed and then we're adjourned at [Music] 850 another one you got the block