or fence. >> And if you're here, you can just go up to the microphone. >> This is 5 a.m. >> 5. Hi, good evening. Was there anything new up submitted since
the last time we saw it or is you just here for questions at this point? >> Okay. Okay. I'm just asking because we denied it the last time because I believe
is there anything new? Okay. >> So, >> yeah. >> Okay. So, I Let me just Let's get back to it. Okay. So, you got the And then what what
is the material? would is that is that >> let's just talk about location first. So the four feet or the 3T setback at 4T high is only a platable to the side
front not the front front. So the part that faces 119th Street, you cannot have a fence on that street at all. So you you currently Um, you currently have a chain link fence which is non-conforming. So, it's it's it's been allowed to remain because
it was put up however long ago. Nobody knows the the exact uh time, but now that you're changing it, you have to come into compliance of the code. So, the code is is that there's no fences allowed in the front of the house, which is 119th Street. So, the four the three-foot setback is in reference to
the side front street. So, right now you're at you you showed it all the way AC around the front which um >> Yeah. And you'd have to return it onto the front of the onto the front corner of the the property there. >> Would it go like here?
>> Um do you have a survey or anything with you or do you Okay. Um I could show you if you let me write on it because it's a little Yeah, if you just can approach Can you just approach the D? I I can tell you and then you can, you know, kind of work
out how you want to do it. >> I mean, I have it here digitally, but if you just hand me something I can write on. Okay. So, so here's your front corner. Here's the here's the part there. Okay. So, this is you're allowed to go three feet back at four feet and
then it subsequently goes back further. Okay. Now, you also have a thing going for you called a bumpout. Okay. So the code allows you to come out 15 feet like this and go like this and
go back and go like that. So So there is a there's a there the the road the code was written to give people on corners a little more leeway on how you you're allowed to do your fence. So you have a you have a you can do a bump out on this side or you can do it on this side. One or the other. But you're allowed to go
out from the corner of the house 15t. But you're not allowed to go any closer than 15 feet to the to the property line max. So you you're you're allowed to go out halfway basically the setback. So I'm not I think this house has a uh doesn't have a true 30 foot setback. Um
so so it's but it would be 15 from this corner board and then you come back around this way and you can do that. So yeah, or you could just go straight across like that. Yeah, you could do you could do like
this could be option number one and then option number two would be here and then you could do a bump out. Same rules 15 and 15. Um, so like option number two would be like that. So you could
>> 15. So you're allowed to go into the co the the way it's written is 15 foot into the front setback from the corner of the house but no closer than 15 feet to the property line. So, so if you're only set back 20 feet, then you're only going to allowed to come out five feet.
So, so no closer than 15 to the prop to the to the uh property line. So, you're allowed to either do one, which would come right across here, could do something like this, or you could do number two, where you come out like this. It's up to you. But, but this part
is not allowed. Now, you are allowed per code to have a a gate, a pedestrian gate. Okay. So, it it can be a maximum. Remind me again, guys. Is it >> eight feet by five feet high? Eight feet
wide. Five feet high. I think it's >> I was going to say 10. >> I'm sorry. >> I No, I I think that a pedestrian gate can't be over six feet. >> The same as the highest fence. >> Oh, no. I thought he was talking about
wide. >> Not allowed to be taller than the current fence height. I'm just saying for pedestrian gates open. >> Sorry. It's hard to remember. >> You can fill it in with a hedge.
>> A lot or something like so. A lot of people some a lot of people will do the the gate and then they'll put hedging around the rest. you're allowed to put a hedge on your property up to the property line. >> Um you actually don't need a permit to get a hedge. Um the the only um the only
caveat it has to be on your property. Can't be in the rightway and it cannot grow in a way that it will go over into the rightway. So it has to be like if you're if you want to have it big and wide, you have to set it back a >> No, actually there's no height limit on
on on uh edging. No. Um, pedestrian gates. Pedestrian gates are located in the front yard. Shall not exceed a height of six feet and shall not exceed a width of five feet. Okay. So, if you're doing >> six feet to max, five feet.
>> Is that what I just said? Five feet wide. >> Okay. So, you are allowed to have, you know, little gate. You know, our code is kind of, you know, trying to help people with that, but you're not allowed to have a fence that goes around the perimeter. you are allowed to put a hedge. So, so
if you'd like to go back and think it through, uh, we can do that. But I think we have we have something else with you, too, right? >> So, on a can I get a motion? Unfortunately, we have to still deny it. >> Um, actually, I I have a question. Um, yeah. Um, so I drove by the house a
couple days ago and I saw that there is a fence. Um, it's kind of like looks like a construction fence kind of thing. Um, can you explain kind of like what's going on? Um, why you're why you're now coming in with the >> No, no. There there's like a
construction fence. And so you don't know why you're now coming through with this is a permanent fence. This is this this fence today >> for a permanent like a permanent fence >> like a green mesh. >> Yeah. minor up which is
>> Yeah. Which is which is not There's the chain link fence and then there's another fence behind it right now. That's how it it is. All that would have to come out in order for this when you when they did this, >> right? Like I'm just >> enforcement thing, isn't it?
>> I'm just trying to understand what's going on like like what what the what the process is right now. like what what is what's going on with whoever the owner is, they've put up some illegal fence that I imagine our code enforcement off department needs to
deal with. Um but um that that mesh green screen is not is it's not even built. It's I think it's built with two 2x4s or something like >> it. That's typically what a construction fence is like. >> But it's not there's a there's a >> it's not permitted.
>> But you need to get a construction fence permit. There isn't there is a separate construction fence permit that needs to be con. So, and then it has to be of a chain length, certain heights, you know, mounted to the ground and things like six feet. Six feet. Yeah.
Um, so can I did I get a motion to second? I did. All in favor say I. I. >> Okay. So, we're going to deny what you're applying for because it's still not correct. So, if you don't have to, I mean, if you get it and you understand what I just told
you, it should you you don't have to attend, but if you know, it's up to Okay. Okay. So, we also have new business A. Um, which is the same address, 511 Northeast on 19th Street. And this is for windows and doors.
I didn't know. >> Which one is that? 6. What? Oh, 5. 6A. I'm sorry. 6A. Yeah, I was already looking at this one um kind of off of off of the conversation. So, it's all double
sliding windows that's facing the the street from the the front facing and then one triple sliding door. Um and then uh there's on the back side uh so it's kind of facing the other street
there's one double sliding door and the same triple sliding windows. And then on the second floor um it's all uh sliding uh doors except for one um matching uh
double sliding window. So all of them from all all of the windows and doors from the two kind of front facings are all matching. They're either double sliding doors or double or triple sliding uh I mean double or triple
sliding doors or double sliding window. So off of that I have a mo or I'm motioning to approve >> uh second. >> Sorry. Did motion. >> Okay. Or to approve. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. motion to approve. All >> favor say David Scarlet. All favor say
I. I >> I trusting you guys are >> um >> now that one you're good for. >> But you also said something about the roof. >> That's a later one. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. It's just uh I think there was
there was two conflicting materials in there and we weren't sure. And then also we wanted to confirm because I think you only had the diagram for the main structure. I I believe there's an accessory structure in the back. So we got to make sure that all the roofing material on all the structures match. So that you can't have one roofing material
on the front and a different roofing material in the back. So we are we are trying to confirm we are trying to cons confirm that prior to uh approval. So but we'll cross that when we when we do that next. I'm sorry we have somebody that signed in. It was um
1821 Northeast 109th Street. Is that the address? 18 821. I still don't see >> Yeah, I don't see it on the agenda. >> Ma'am, can we have that agenda back real quick if you're done with it so she can
you All right. Um, we also have an an addition. I did I should have announced it first. Uh, discussion A, I'm going to add it. 11818 Northeast 7th Avenue. It's a variance request. They were on the agenda last time and we um we denied or
and we'd like to speak to them. So, all right. So, it'll be added as discussion item A. All right. So, next will be new business B uh 519 Northeast 18th Street uh for a temporary fence.
This for a construction fence. Is this this is around the front too? Correct. Is the fence around the perime inside? There is a fence. Okay. Any questions on the board? >> Motion to approve. David Pablo. All in
favor say I. I. I. >> Motion carries. You're good. Thank you. >> Sure. Uh you'll get you you can call tomorrow into the the village, but it should take them only a
couple of days to they'll send you. >> Yeah. Yeah. But you can call tomorrow of like, hey, can I put it up now seeing as it was approved and they construction fences? They're >> usually pretty quick. >> Thank you. >> Y
>> All right. Next will be uh new business C uh 683 Northeast 17th Street. It seems like it's for the same thing, a temporary fence. That's a no. >> So the only >> Yeah. The only thing that we see that's
a kind of a an issue is I assume that the fence is going all the way out to the the street and that there's a connection from the existing side fence to this fence of the street. Is that correct?
>> Okay. Cuz the >> I mean it's six foot the fences are six foot high. >> Sure. But the other thing too is the two sides is eight foot higher. Yes. The two sides also don't indicate going all the way out to the street. Looks like it's
just one fence across the >> Can you flip your screen around and show it to him what you're talking about? >> Yeah. If you if you want to look here, so see how they they Right. So
the issue seems as if there's just fencing gates going along the front and that there >> Yeah. You need to enclose. >> Yeah. Basically, no kid is almost all temporary construction.
So, I have a feeling that Yeah, basically going back to connect to the >> but we're confirmed that there are existing fences there. I mean it's the code is it's all four all four sides of that has to be completely enclosed. So we allow you to connect into an existing
fence if it's there but we we've got to make sure that it is actually there. >> Yeah, it goes all the way goes all the way to the street. Now the laterals it goes across. So, so yeah. And so they would need to
draw it going back to the fronts of the fences. And then the other thing is they need to indicate right instead of so do I or >> we have to deny it.
>> So So motion to deny. Uh David Pablo on paper say hi. >> Hi. >> Fortunately we have to deny it on that those bases. >> If you make the changes this week you come back in two weeks. You make the changes by Monday and then you can come back in two weeks for the approval. It
should be quick. >> Then based off of that we also have to deny 6D which is the next one which is that same house being correct. >> Yeah. So, we have to be approving the sirs. >> Who are or who are you at with the
project? You're the owner. Okay. You're the owner of property. Okay. Um I don't I don't want to delay this. So like if you will commit to making those changes and making six week um and
submitting the documents prior to getting it I would think the board might be more applicable to just say approve it and that way we don't have to hold off your demo permit either you know um so for 6 >> are you agreeing to that? Okay. So for succeeded motion to conditionally
approve pending the upload of the corrected uh site survey and uh being in village compliance with six foot heights. Okay. Do I get a do I need to get a motion to
reverse the denial? >> So I need a motion first to reverse the denial and then another motion to approve it based on those conditions. A >> motion to uno reverse 6C. >> Okay. Okay. David B. I >> I
>> So 6C motion to conditionally approve uh pending the connection of front construction fence to the to the side fences as well as adjusting the overall height to be in
the game height. >> You're good with that? Okay. I have a motion. I have a second. All in favor say I. I. >> Okay. So, it's where it's approved. And then now that we're there, we'll talk about the next one. 6D 4 683 Northeast 17th Street. This is for demolition permit.
>> Get a motion. >> Taken down the house. >> Am I Am I conditionally doing this because we It's >> Well, here's the thing. I mean, here's the thing. We We can approve the demo permit, but he can't start demoing it until he gets the fence permit. So, we
can we can approve the the demo permit. >> So, motion to approve 60. It's a there are two separate standalone permits. >> Yeah. >> Start the demo until you have the approved permit for the temporary fence and you have it out. You can't start
demolishing. That's >> okay. >> Do I have a second? All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. >> Thank you, sir. >> Okay. Uh hopefully I'm catching everybody. Six. Uh I uh 11102 Northeast 9inth Court
for some drywall. Everyone's signed in, correct? So make sure everyone is signed in. So I don't want to miss anybody. Hello. >> This is all interior. This is >> this is drywall stuff. Is there any are you is it called
drywall and you're doing some remodeling inside or is it just actually you're hanging drywall? Okay. So, there's there's an interior remodel. I guess that's what they want us to look at. Are you affecting any of the exterior walls? Okay. Um and there's only going to be
one kitchen per these plans when you're done. You're just you're just adding cabinets to the wall that you're putting the drywall on. I think they're I think it's a ren It's called It's actually a renovation. It's
in the back in the rear. Okay. So, it's actually an interior renovation. If you look at the first drawing, that's what it is. But it's all interior. I think that they just wanted us to have eyes on it to make sure there's no second kitchen or >> Well, that's an outdoor. It's like a
barbecue, right? When you say outdoor kitchen, it's not you're not it's not a kitchen to a residence. >> When you have a >> Yeah, but it's there's no >> Is that terrace is that terrace room roof is existing?
Okay. Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Okay. Um David Scarlett say I. I. Motion carries. All right. You're good, sir. There's one. >> So, it's actually You want to rewise
that? It's actually renovation. >> That was 6, >> correct? >> 6. Yes. All right. 6L 111905 Northeast 11th place for generator. The Andersons are here. You don't need to get up. I mean, unless
we have some pressure. Um Is that tying into like a main the main a main natural gas line? Sorry. Because I see the natural gas meter that's going on the corner. So I assume
it's like the one of those Tesco or the Yeah. Okay. Sure. Um, sure. >> Okay. Yeah. I'm >> Well, the actual location is showed on
6M. >> Well, it's also in in the red boxes that's under on the page page. >> It's under 6M page two. You can see >> 6L. You're looking at 6L.
>> Yes. I didn't see page two. >> So in 6L they indicate it's on the back of the house. It's 50 feet from the back, 20 feet from the side. You can see to where the natural gas meter is. That's why I was asking about that because there wasn't any tank anywhere.
So I have a or I'm motioning to approve. >> So do we have any sort of sound attenuation requirements for >> county has it? Um because we go to the county and
>> I know generators can be loud >> -20.1 the county. >> This one's talked like as close to their I >> and there's nothing on that county co code that says anything about sound. It says setbacks and number permitted.
>> No. Yeah. I would if it was like 10 feet from property line, 10 feet from rear line. I would about it a little bit more. But it's right in the middle of the back of the house, so it's as far away from Facebook. >> I mean, I would have rather had it over on 119 street side, but 10 foot for the
property line puts it on my uh drive where the septic system is. >> Sure. Yeah. So, I have no Did I have a motion on that already? >> Yeah. >> David and Is there a second? >> Yes. Secondly, >> Charlotte or David and Pablo, sorry.
>> Uh, so this is going to be for 6L. Um because they're two separate permits. Interestingly, why did they have that for the generator and the pad? Two separate. >> I I I was confused on that, too. >> Okay. >> So, that >> uh so 6L uh all in favor say I. I. >> I.
>> Okay. So, we're approved. And then now 6M is the same. Uh 11905 Northeast 11th place. This is for the generator pad. So, it's I would imagine it's the same size as the generator. Roughly. >> It It is. No, it is. >> Is there a motion to approve?
>> And you're not elevating it at all. It's just going to be on the ground. >> Well, no. It's going to be because you got the thickness of the pad and they're going to be putting uh gravel under. They're going to put some gravel there first. They set the pad on top of it. >> That's
>> right. But like some people right now are, you know, with mechanical equipment, they're putting it a few feet above >> the ground. >> We don't have any plans on that because I've lived here 40 some odd years. >> Pretty much damage it and >> yeah, destroy it.
>> No, I' I've lived here for 40 some odd years and even during even during that storm we had that no-name storm that flooded Miami date. I had that much water and as soon as it stopped raining the second day it looked like rapids going because I'm up higher. >> Okay.
>> The ground ground in that area is a little higher than surrounding area. So the water just runs off. >> Okay. Okay. As long as you're confident about that then I just wanted to mention it. >> I was concerned about that too. >> Yeah because it will destroy it if it if it gets flooded. >> About the storm of the century back in 2000. >> Yeah.
>> That motion to approve. >> David Pavo on say I. >> I. Motion carried. All right. So, six L and M are approved. Thank you. >> Okay. You think it come together? Yeah. Okay.
We got you approved. So, >> thank you. >> Um, so next would be 60. Um, hi Jamie. >> Uh, 11221 Northeast 9inth Court. Um, new single family or is it SFR?
>> Is this is this your first review with us? >> Yeah. Okay. So, um, >> yeah. So, we need to move it. I didn't I'm sorry. I didn't catch that it was a single family residence, but we require three reviews prior to being uh reviewed
as a permit. So, I need to move O to discussion item B. Um and then we'll review because what we do is we review it with you and then we then you take our notes and you go back and you know we work with you basically on it. So, but it shouldn't have been put on as an agenda item as a O.
>> Is P here already or you want to do um >> Well, the Yeah, the thing is we have Oh, so >> you're um modi mo modi vinegrad. Okay. Um give me one second sir. Um so
but I do need to move to B. Motion to move on to 7B. >> Okay. So, I got a second on that. >> Second, David. Okay. All in favor say I. I. >> I. >> Okay. So, we move set 60 to 7B
discussion item. Okay. But I do want to take this gentleman here because he was somehow I went over him. My apologies. So, um, old business B 11619 Northeast 6th Avenue for a pool. >> Which one is it? >> Six 5B. 5B.
We table abled this last time. >> Yeah, I think they went in for a variance and it got approved. So now we're back. Oh, so this was the Okay, the variance application. Okay, so we have an we have a variance that was approved on
was submitted back in 2023. This is the he just this was just approved like when the last like this is the gentleman that we had a lot of got back and forth with >> when when he came in and the village commission approved um this actually has a baby fence around the pool
location. Well, there's no fence now currently, but it indicates 4 foot chain link fence that's exist around that's going whole property. And then there will be a a interior fence as well that's 4T.
>> So, do you have plans that actually have the pool? >> I I haven't even seen the plans. They sent me here just for any like questions that >> So, here's the deal. I mean, I don't have a single drawing that actually shows the pool. I have something that has a deck that shows a de an existing deck,
>> but um Oh, hold on. Hold on. Maybe before I say >> I haven't seen them. So, they sent me here like kind of blinded >> 11 of 19 is where I exact. >> Yeah, just know last time it was here, they had to get a variance and then that got approved. Only problem is is that there wasn't an
indication of the distance from the water line to the the property line. There's one unit of measure which goes out across the first side of the street.
So he's looking for a set 10 ft from the water line. So >> he's not indicated. >> If you want to look here, I don't mind real quick. >> So So this is one side one side of the
street that they put the water >> the other side of the street. What we needed is just from here to this fence line because this fence line is on
the property line existing and so that indicate that the water deck piece can be within 10 ft. The water line has but um let me just scroll make make sure
that it's not here. I already Um, there is a there is a letter from the attorney that she's speaking to the the clerk about right now. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Hello.
>> You're kind of on a speaker phone. >> No problem. >> We just we don't have no a setback from the street. There's there's nothing in the drawings or that's from the street from the property line. >> It's not. And is that is that actually called out inside of the variance packet?
>> Um >> because the drawing that's submitted does not show a setback from the property line. And in order to prove it, we need to know what that is. And I guess that means what was approved by the by the commission. I mean, I'm sure
it's just gonna they're gonna say this drawing. >> Yeah, that that's what it was. It was that that drawing. I don't remember there ever being a discussion about the setbacks at that time. Um,
and it's yeah, it was whatever what whatever he had on the actual application and the drawing. There was nothing else um added. Well, there were a few things that they asked him to bring in, but they had nothing to do with the setback. >> They just, you know, draw pictures and
stuff of the flooding and the other issues that he was having on the property. >> Okay. All right. So, >> sir, can you just come up to me real quick? All right. Thank you, Pamela. All right. We'll uh we'll work this out. Thank you. >> Okay. So, here's the deal.
Okay. So, you have a dimension from the house to this little spot here. You have this dimension from here to here. You have this dimension from here to here. Okay, this is the plan that was approved. So, there is a dimension from the house out to that point. But this, for some reason, they went from the
water line all the way to the other side of the road for some reason. So, can you just submit a drawing that shows >> from the water line to that property line and we approve it? It's it's approved, but we just need to we need to we need to see >> Well, I mean, the thing is is he got a
variance. So whatever if you took the the math of this 30 I think that says 30 I I don't >> 31.6 and you subtract out that that dimension that dimension that dimension it should give you that dimension >> right >> so you guys need to see that on the
>> we need to see a drawing that actually has it. So, and u and then we can approve it because he did get a variance for this, but >> if we approve this, they would be like, well, what? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're going to approve it. He got a variance, but we
just needed some clarification on the drawing. >> All right. Thanks for working with us. I appreciate it. No, he's got a we've we've asked for more additional details. So, I'm gonna ask for a table on this one because he did get it. So,
>> table on paper say I I >> see. Okay. All right. We're going to go back to these gentlemen. All right. Um it's going to be discussion B. Um but they were on the
agenda ahead. So 11221 Northeast 9th Court. So let me just explain. So when we have new construction, it should automatically go to a discussion item on our agenda. I don't know why they put it as an an um an application because we want to see what you're doing before we
approve it. So we're that's why we moved it off of the agenda onto a discussion item. So what I'm going to have you do is I'm going to have you go right here between David and Pablo and open your drawings up. plans. We're planning to build a twotory house will be a new single family
residence in the slide. We actually have pool barbecue area. um driveway garage more detail. >> So let's just cover the basics. Um you have what are your setbacks?
>> Setbacks here are >> 10 ft >> on both sides. >> Okay. >> Uh 10 ft for the pool water line right over here. We have a little bit over 30 feet on on the entrance of the house. That is to wall
is to this wall here. >> Yes. >> This is like >> No, it's actually privacy wall. >> This is a privacy wall >> and the 30 ft are before that privacy wall probably like >> or so it starts here. >> Oh, 30 ft right there.
>> And your your rightway is 25 >> um your So you covered that. So what is your total lot coverage? What is your total lot? What is your lot coverage >> here? Zoning data >> lot area
>> 10 10,74 square ft lot. >> Okay, >> we're going to uh cover 3705 which is 36.8%. >> So that is >> from the main building. >> Okay, so our lot coverage is everything on the property. That's pool, that walkway, that driveway, that's
everything that is on the lot development. So you cannot go over 50% of that number >> equipment. >> Yes. You have 440, you have 350. You have to add all of these. So he's saying green is 39
right now. Looks like you're at 61,000 numbers that are a lot easier single out. It seems like they're calling it green area. >> So they're saying it's 39%.
>> What what was the number? He's saying lot coverage, but he's just calculating the house >> 370,000 total everything,000 >> that includes the AC parts on the side
like every anything that uses space. >> Maybe it's non greener >> like yellow AC. The AC unit and stuff like that are right here. >> But everything >> the AC
so that would be live coverage. That's the next one. Major 75% property. I just don't
>> wider than 30. >> It's two different numbers. There's there's this is >> this is 40%. >> And then this is 40%. >> Because this is right away and this is your property. Mhm. >> Um and then also we haven't got to your
height yet, but this this is two Right. >> Okay. >> He has a 28. >> So you're So it's 28 plus from base flood elevation plus one. >> 25 + 28 36. >> You're saying that the the base flood is
8 ft. >> The base flood elevation is eight. to nine. The base floodation the maximum allowed is 2018. We are maxing out from the
base one. It is. Yeah, it is open to below. However, it is inside the house. We're going to have a skylight. It was going to be covered inside the house. >> Okay. >> All right. So, >> you were planning to use it as a green
area. >> Were you planning to use it as a green area? >> Can I give you the green area? >> 144. >> Okay. >> Um, so now second story. Um,
these are 10 foot. This is two feet. This is straight up, right? Okay. So, our code says that you are allowed to have on the setback line on the second story only 30 ft. Everything else has to be set back an additional feet
maximum. Okay. So, so your first this is the >> this is the second story. Where's the second story point? >> The second story begins right I mean It's an open to below, but it's part of
the second story. Actually, the whole >> privacy wall is supposed to go. I want to show you >> more. I have a render so you can visualize it better. >> Maybe >> in the render. Yeah. The house we would
like for it to look like when you're saying two stories. Yes. So this wall is at this this is the 30 ft is right there >> in front of right there. Okay.
>> So if you So you went like this. >> It went like this. You have 30 ft at the set >> and then it'll come back. >> And wherever this front is this the front corner over here? Yes, it is. >> So, you have the same thing. Now, it
doesn't dictate where on that setback has it could be you can choose to do the 30 feet back here and move this forward, but the maximum is 30 ft. You can even do it in 15 and 15, but the rest has to be back a minimum of five.
So, you have a maximum of 30 ft. Second story on the front on the set back you can do. Everything else has to be pushed up. So, you can have this wall, but you're you're feeding into your 30 ft once you
start going back and forth. So if this was a lower wall was like the first floor >> then you wouldn't then you would this would move outside of that >> that aren't there anymore.
>> He has to solve for two big two big changes you know the size of the But first, >> well, I like all the curves that you It's unique. So, so next would be
are there variances allowed to just go straight or in from your experience it has something doesn't happen >> you're taking down an existing structure no I understand >> it various is when someone has
We were trying we're trying to avoid big box basically and u um second thing would be the second floor. What is this here? >> That is a like a overhang in the back of a house.
You can see do you see the elevation? So in the back of the house you would have like a overhang >> coming out of the wall >> there. This is a solid wall. >> That is a solid wall. And this right here will be an overhang which is what you see with the lights in the back of the house.
>> So you're you're actually clients with the next step which would be in the rear twothirds of that property. Any walls that face the neighbors have any windows that face the neighbor has to be done in a way you're um minimize the view into your neighbor. So right now you have no
windows here. You have no windows here except for these closets which I would imagine are a problem. >> We can Yeah, we can do it. >> So the rear 23 windows have to be designed in a way that they're not looks like you're good on that. Um, next
would be um >> um you can so you can have egress windows. Um they can be you can you can cross the windows and come up with you know um um making them
put decorative screens the windows aluminum aluminum something that goes in front of it basically. Um so that's you know obviously you got a lot of kind but that kind of gives you an idea of that and
then the next thing would be on the rear um and also the you know these windows could be Um the walls have to be done in a way that provide movement
they use to um to avoid large blank walls. >> So you'd have to add some like you could even add some of these blocks or on this side um you know I mean It's not going to be a big even
>> one thing you guys So that all of this again >> well the code does say that you have to have two single flat top roof. So providing this
you're actually providing a second story by providing the uh the garage you know this in the front elevation I think has an interesting movement to it um but um by doing 28 26 you're satisfying
even though this appears >> no it's more decorative than any >> you might to give the house volume as Stop this kind of that eyebrow line. >> Well, if you if you stop this and this
went across and to me that would then become then a a flat would not be >> Yeah. What I was saying is not a solid wall. >> Even though it's just the line,
>> I mean, we can discuss it at the board. I mean, but to me, it's still That's >> I was going to say upload. You have renderings, right? Upload next time if you can the renderings so we can see the back, you know, the materials like what
stone is >> we're looking for. >> We just want >> we want to avoid a white >> material selection for each one of the areas. either print the renderings. I know expensive in color or you just upload that. You
don't have to. >> Yeah, I I I just look because I wanted to see you didn't upload. >> I did not. >> Yeah. Yeah. Next time. I mean, so we can see what the house >> I would ask that you consider looking Even though it does have this little
>> It's missing the curve in the front. Correct. >> Is that really a roof line or that wall? >> It'll be part of the roof line because it's part of the structure of the house. >> Yes, it is part of the >> It is part of the I mean I'm giving them there is a first
board out here. So there is on that you know you looked at this all the way across >> here you have from the side you can see one height and then creates another height >> yeah
but this doesn't have all the existing We needed a landscape. These are these are live. >> There's no So we do three reviews feedback
and hopefully that second Monday. A lot of changes. You can go on >> since I'm standing he has plans there. >> Okay. So we have um the one we added which is 1187th
Avenue. This was a variance request that came in last time denied the pool permit which is it with a pool that's in this front setback. >> Um do you have the actual varian? >> Yeah the the letter is here
>> and the plans. >> So um so the questions that we had were um the first one that we had so We always
>> usually don't have an issue. It's always a hard decade. >> Okay. was basically 5T water. >> So, so the whole the whole the whole
pool if you shift it closer and all of a sudden it's 10. >> We did it this way because the house is kind of four feet high and this deck it's really long. So to have more space to be comfortable maybe adjust the deck to to
steps down by the side. I don't know. And move move the pool 10 ft in 5 ft more inside. Okay, no problem. >> Oh no, it's 10t. >> Yeah, it is pretty narrow.
>> So, so questions are special circumstances that you cannot do this any other piece of part of your property. Yeah. >> So, you have you you have >> you have a 12T but it's also 12 foot roughly. you have doesn't look like you have enough foot with set back here, you
don't have enough place to put it here. >> Okay. So, the special circumstances are something that you are making a good case that if you um you need to put a pool, that is your location to put a pool. >> Preservation, enjoyment of substantial property rights. I mean, that's a lot of debate whether or not
>> having a pool or not is >> depriving you of your substantial property rights, but you know, um that's another that's that's something that >> the the board's previous commissions have have been willing to look at. Um not detrimental. I don't think this detrimental. So, the question that
really came up would be the minimum variance. >> Okay. >> So, is going out >> you have a 29. So, let's say 30 almost 30. Yeah. So going out 25 feet is that the minimum variance request. So so going all the way out to five feet. So the question is
is do you you you really pushed it out really as far as possible? So does that is that really ask are you asking for the minimum? Would you get the same enjoyment by having it like David just said five feet closer to your property? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So So you kind of were like going for
like the max and saying okay this is the minimum. Is it really the argument could be made are you really asking for the minimum that would give you the necessary pool that you need >> as we are asking that that was exactly what we think we asked for the good for
for the customer use they have babies to use this area but if not if it's not allowed okay we move the pool inside you know there's no >> well I just it's not to well all of it's not allowed right now so you're asking for a variance so the question is is you're trying to convince somebody to give you a variance you know making the
argument that hey I I I I want to pull pull a to pull here, but I'm I'm only going to go closer than 10 feet to the side, which you have a 10 foot set back here. You have a 10 foot set back here. So, the argument can be made that having a 10 foot on this side is reasonable.
Okay. Not five feet. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Now, the next question is is that by doing five feet um a fence on this side of the property, the closest you can get to the property line is three feet. So you're so with the fence. So you're asking for a pool variance, but you're
not asking for you're not you're not taking consideration your fence. So if you did it this way, if you did it this way, you would have a fence that's 2 feet from your water line. >> It will be tight. >> It'll be tight. >> Yeah. >> And that's only at four feet. >> So it's three feet
at four feet high. So if you want a a higher fence, you need to go back further. >> How do you push the pool back away from the the property line? >> How high do you think the fence that you will ask? I didn't apply for the fence. >> I know. But do you want to do Do you
think you would want a 4ft high fence, five, six? >> Uh, >> you have to think about it because of >> have no room. >> You have to think about it because >> But you also have a You do have a lot of room because here's one of the things >> I can't fence this off.
>> Yes, you can. So, so the code is written. What is this right here? Oh, this is uh so you step up and then I have a little patio right there and then I have planters all around >> house that says what? >> Okay. So, how how high is the edge of
this uh with the planters down? >> So, it's probably like the same height as where the wood the wood steps are. So, it's this is the same height. So if you wanted to, you could sit there and have a fence that fence
out and then get this property line right here. >> We need a fence. >> So there's a fence. I want to do a fence all the way around all the way and close it off here eventually. I want to do the whole thing. >> Well, I mean, the code is allowed.
>> Yeah, I could do that. >> You're allowed to do that. And technically, the code is your your your year. >> Yeah. >> Um, but you also have the front bumpout, which is 15 ft here. So technically in
our code you could do >> but you shouldn't >> variance request because this you're technically asking for variance because not everybody gets out and okay but didn't you do code by the code you
allowed to do that under a code >> the reason why I didn't do it is because I didn't know if I was going to get approved for >> for this pool at all. So I wanted to make sure >> that so just so you know. So three foot setback is four foot high of
>> five. >> That was four to five. >> We looked it up last time. >> It is five to five. >> No, I don't remember. But >> okay. So then it's five, five, and seven. Six. So that is going to dictate high sevent
from the property line >> property line and then you need to have room between the fence and your pool. >> I ask why >> because it used to be that >> our code before the a corner lot could only have a fence here and a fence there >> and that was it. >> And you can't >> you couldn't you couldn't do anything
else. Got it. So 10 years ago, they they they created a committee and they said, "Hey, listen, all these corner lots, people can't they have no yard, >> so let's do something that's going to make it so that they can have it." So they created a a an exception in the code that would give people on corner
lots more of their lots. >> Yeah. So it's 357. Okay. >> So that's to keep that in mind. >> 11.6 So that was another red flag that came up last time was like, "Listen, I don't think these guys realize the fence >> code." If you're asking for this, you're not going to be able to because we don't
want you to go through the fence and then go through the entire variance and get the pool fence and then by the way, you have to put a fence two feet from the water line. >> Got it? >> You know, so you need >> So and those those required those updates I submitted there or I have to
bring here again. >> So so this was a discussion item tonight. So with this feedback hopefully you'll look at this and you'll maybe adjust your request. >> Okay. >> Because you know you you have an application and you have an application for a variance. We have not made a recommendation yet is not approved.
>> We well we make a recommendation to the commission. the commission makes the the final decision, but we make a recommendation and we have not made a recommendation yet because we have these questions. >> So, you might want to just screw you over by having like hey we recommend don't do it
because of this but like hey >> he can come as a discussion item next two weeks or an agenda. >> He could I mean if he makes if you take into consideration all these changes and and like David said move the pool back a little bit. >> Yeah. You know >> Tim and it will be perfect.
>> But remember, at 10, you're you're only going to have >> seven feet to from the fence to the water line if you went with four. >> What happened is behind the pool, nobody uses, so it kind of doesn't matter, you know. >> Yeah. Behind the pool, >> that's your your decision. But um
but um you know, you might want to consider the fencing that we allow into that. >> It will be there will be no deck behind the pool. >> It's just a minimum to to install the baby fence. >> Yeah. So it's just the tiles around it. >> Yeah, it is 16 inch, >> not the baby fence. It's the
>> Well, just think about the the fence, the height of the fence, and then just move the pool accordingly, >> right? >> Probably. >> So, so make revisions to your application. Um, and then just have them resubmit it and they'll put it back on the agenda as old business. So, it'll be one of the first things that we review
and I think then at that point, we'll review it and we'll make a recommendation. can't speak for all the board members, but I think you're working with us by coming here and talking to us. Okay. >> And uh we're kind of giving you an idea of how we're trying to give you a path to go forward. >> Okay, perfect. >> You know,
>> I have to submit it before next Monday. I I've heard you saying >> if you want to get on the next agenda in two weeks, you you should have these revised. >> Okay, perfect. And it and it could technically I think it I think it >> I think it's indicate like
it's not necessarily >> you're not asking for the fence >> but but don't be like crap I didn't Is there any legal problem to have the pool for example 3 feet from to have the
fence three feet from the pool or no? >> I think the only thing from a county perspective perspective is that the pool is actually the house. Yeah, the house is 5T >> and it's a Florida. It's a Florida building.
>> Yeah. The details from the city. So from the city there's no problem. If they want six feet pool, six feet fence, it will be seven feet from the property line. Then 3 ft from the pool. >> There's no problem. >> No, not on our side. No. >> Okay. Perfect. Yeah. All right. So we
have this cons moving the pool 10. >> A lawn mower. >> So it would be >> You're right. >> I don't think you have to update this because they're not really changing. I don't think there's any even though yeah you're not really putting I don't think you have any dimensions in here.
We would you're going to be they're going to be looking at this and saying okay he wants to go uh 20 ft is basically what you're asking for variances is for this dimension right here. You're wanting to say I want to put an accessory structure 20 feet
into the front the side set >> because right now this line is 30 feet. What you're saying is I want I want to move this in 30 feet or 5 feet 30 feet 10 feet whatever it is that's that's the variance that you're asking for. >> Okay. >> The side setup. >> So we are going to update them. My
permit will talk to the bureaucracy and then this you know when it actually comes time for the condition meetings consider it really got to be here because if not they're like if you don't even you're not willing to show up for yourself they're going to say no you know.
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you guys. Have a good night. >> All right. >> Meeting. All right. So, I have the minutes from um our meeting of April 20th, 2026.
I looked at >> I I looked at them. I'm motion to approve. Pablo, Ed or David. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Motion carries. >> 6E.
>> Okay. Next will be yes. 6E 739 Northeast 11 Street. Roofing permit for a new It looks like Yeah, it's a low slope. So motion to approve. All favor say I. I. Motion.
>> Uh David Pablo. >> Next will be 6F uh 108 Northeast 16th Street. Um windows and doors. We're looking at A and B
is EW is >> picture window. >> So there's and picture windows and a visually they all frame color bronze powder coat.
Motion to approve. David Apabo all say I next 6G 1075 Northeast on 19th Street for offense people. Wow. Okay. >> No, but there is a better drawing. >> Is this
a corner lot? So, it's 119th and 11th a. So, I can't tell from the that little drawing what is on the right. So, motion to deny pending the uh no clear drawing
of outline of where the fences are going to go on the property and they also don't indicate what type of fence it is that they're installing. >> David Pablo say hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> They have a standard wood fence detail but it doesn't matter. What is the
material? Next 6H10916 Northeast 9. What is the material? Concrete. >> There is the surf. 75. So down at the bottom and 75 wide and they're only
trying to go 22. So they're that's well under the 30 that is the the 40% for that. So from a width from a width perspective and depth in the swale they're they're fine. And street
>> Yeah. And visually the fact that there's not other pieces on this existing survey that are would And just a note too, it looks like they are going around the existing rain which
>> motion to approve. >> David Pablo say I >> So just so you know on night court there's actually rain on certain streets. So you see that So that's um
>> So that's that's city property. That drain they they're not allowed to touch that. So you notice on their drawing they went around it. So they're going around, right?
This is this this is engineering. You're not allowed to drive over that. So, I mean, it looks like they're probably going to end up driving over it, backing in and out, but that's kind of up to public works. I guess.
>> We voted on that. All in favor say I. I. Next will be uh 6 J 11243 Northeast 11th place. Can you make a note on that? Make sure that that somebody from the building or the village um into the building. Somebody has to look to make sure that they're
not approaching on that. I mean, they are showing that they're going around it, but somebody needs to >> like Well, I mean, there might be some feedback from the building official saying, "Hey, you can't drive over this
thing." So, maybe he wants to have him move it over or something like that. But, as far as our zoning goes, we're good. But this is this is uh, you know, city owned or village owned drain. So,
yeah, you might want to just confirm and And actually the public works manager first because they're in charge of all the so public works should review this. Make sure that they're not encroaching.
>> Yeah. This I'm just making a note. This is a drain. There's a driveway that's going to go right next to the drain. They need to make sure that they're okay because there might be a pipe that goes underneath here or something like that that um that they might want to take in
consideration. I don't know if they have like a engineering setback around it. you follow might be you might there might be somebody you know say hey you can't really concrete around this because it'll compromise
there might be like a 10ft setback I'm just flagging we're okay with it it's just somebody else public works director or public works yeah should
He can use the building >> 6J. Motion to approve. >> 6J. Did I call that? 11243 Northeast 11th place. Driveway. There's a motion to approve. What is the driveway? >> It's instead of being a big U. It's
further in from the end of the property alliance. And I checked all of the math and it's correct. It's underneath the 40% but it's two vertical strips. at 20 ft one at >> Okay, I have a motion a second. All say I
>> carries. Next will be 6 K uh 11339 Northeast 8 court solar pan. I would say motion to approve. It looks like they put as many as they could on the back as possible and their overflow
they have the center area which would be where they have them on the front is exactly where >> second. >> This is 133 motion second. Uh, David Scarlet, all I
uh 6N 11908 Northeast Fifth Avenue for kind of within the house. And there is they do have a setback. It's 10 foot. The only thing though that I don't see you guys on one of these drawing pieces
is what the total lock coverage is. >> That would be the only thing. >> Yeah, I already I would say motion to deny. Oh, wait. Actually, very um motion to deny pending upload of
total lock coverage for the property. >> Second Okay, next would be um P 6P 11935 uh Northeast Fifth Avenue, Windor 2 and one, right? Yeah. So, it's >> Yeah. Is it a garage or is it is it a
garage door? >> Number two. Number two. Garage door. So, it's a single front door and a and a garage. Yes, it says new impact entry rated entry door and garage door and the
garage door is solid. There's no pilot glassing. Second David say I >> All right. We have our >> Yeah, I do have one actual I think
official thing which is do you guys remember I think it was two meetings ago might have been last meeting but two meetings ago the guy that came in that had that was getting a permit for demolishing a shed and we were kind of like most people just would have knocked
the shed down so thank you for coming in. Um his first name is Anton. I actually met him at um uh another kids birthday party and he expressed interest in um potentially being like on the
board and I explained that we could I believe we could have an alternate. >> Yeah. And I was like because he right now is unsure of his time ability to be edited every two weeks. I explained kind of what the the process is, but I said,
"Hey, we're heading into the summer. It's a good way to get your feet wet because I'm sure there's going to be missed people and and we can let you know in those times that you can come in and learn." So, I just don't a I didn't want to be speaking. I told him I was like, I'm telling you this not in an
official capacity because I don't know what I am or am not allowed to say. But the other thing, too, is I don't know what the step was. I did get his phone number. I don't I don't know what the step would be for having him come in to be an alternate, but I wanted to let you
guys know. Also, I rent him out. So, if you want him to take your spot, you have to pay me. >> So, he just has to go on the village website. I think there's actually a thing that click on that has an application on the board >> and you just have to fill it out. Um, you have to be a property owner, you
have to live in the resident, you have to live in the village. Um, um, alternates, you know, um, you know, Yeah, >> you have an alternate spot. >> Yeah, >> me too. Well, I thought I wasn't open. >> So, so yeah, I wanted to say that before
we turned all the mics off. >> And actually, I do have a question before we close the mic. I was working on the memo for the um the uh the proposed changes that were passed. >> And I had some I couldn't clarify my notes. So on the the the swale parking
that we approved, we h have down that we need the the swale has to be more than 20 feet deep in order to >> but what what was the rule that we came to that said about the how much of the car can be in the rightway? If if we'd
said that my understanding is is that if the swale was 20 feet deep that we only required that it go that beyond 20 feet that we only required that it goes 15 feet. So one car length into into the lot. >> 20 plus 15.
>> Yeah. So it so the maximum longest driveway that we should have at Biscane Park would be 35 ft from the road >> plus 15 inside. Okay. Okay. I couldn't >> because that was enough to fit a single car, right? But but um
>> Okay. So that's how I remembered it from from our conversation. I guess technically right now we could decide what we want our answer to be, but because remember at one point I threw out like a percent thing and we're like ah that's going to be math and stuff like that. Nobody likes math America.
>> Yeah. >> So we were like oh if we just make it a flat rule and say that oh okay 15t is enough park a single car. So you park a single car on the lot and and if you have >> and that's only affect that's only so so
if you have like a 25 foot swale you can put a car at five starting at 20 feet. That's what we're trying to say. >> Correct. >> We're trying to say that no m you know starting at 20 you can have a start you can have the back of a car at 20 feet going in. >> Correct. The other thing too that uh
somebody was referencing in the swale thing which I again I don't know how we wanted to handle it was that an entire vehicle must if it's parked parallel must be able to fit entirely within the within the the swale. So if somebody
wanted to put any type of sideways parking using their 40% swale coverage that the width needed to be basically in excess of I think we said 8 ft that's where the standard lane is. Uh so if you have for instance a sixoot swale or a
five foot swale and you wanted to park a car perpendicular or parallel to the road that that's a no-go because then the car is hanging off into >> well I mean you'd have to go three feet into your property. >> Yes. Yeah. But but yes that >> parallel >> remember that was what
>> parking must have a minimum of 8. >> Yeah. the lady that's on co- compliance that was here for the generator today. That was the thing that they that that they had kind of brought up as like, hey, can you please throw something in here so that that way we're requiring that parts are not hanging over into the
road? >> Yeah. >> All right. So, our next meeting will be two weeks. >> Two weeks. So, it'll be the 18th. Are we all good with that? >> Yep. Good. Right. >> I might travel, but I won't know until like next week. I'll email you.
I'll be here. All right. Any other business? No. Motion to journ, please. Motion to adjurnn. David say I. returned it. Um, >> I'll have I'll I'll reach out