right 6:30 everybody ready let's go ahead and get started uh good evening everyone this is the planning and designing review board meeting for the village of Biscane Park for Monday April 7th 2025 it's now 6:30 roll call even though it's not in
the agenda you'll add it to the uh the minutes um Edward Leva Scott Hammonds here um Pablo here Gage Charting here as well as Denanisha from the building department um we'll give David a minute
oh there he is david Grun here all right so we're all present all right so let's go ahead and uh we'll go to the new business with the residents that are here go in order of the agenda um 6C 777 Northeast 11th
Street um for a door I believe just a single door on the back side correct product approval appears to be in place is it just a like a slab door okay all right motion to
approve yeah any questions second that was David all in favor say I i i carries done it on thanks for coming all right next will be 6D 862 Northeast
19th Street um for driveway yeah if we need y'all you you can actually just go up there and if we have any questions for you you go to that microphone right there okay there we go is this including the new driveway or is this because it's the reason it says it
extend the driveway extension cuz she something existing there's papers already on the top portion of the driveway oh I see so you're just going to come out from that point it looks like to the street and then uh towards
the west what's there now uh P rock you're taking out the rock and putting the Yes sir join the driveway base and put in the same pairs i put side set back 24 across 45 is there do we have the calculation sheet that's looks correct 23 and 40 so you're
at your coverage well he's at his coverage in the swale or house or the front yard area he still had You're good with coverage let me rephrase that make a
motion second David and Scarlet are all in favor say I good thank you um Smurf what are you here for okay so you actually higher up on the agenda so you're going to be next 760
Northeast 14th Street T Reut tile to tile and what is the new tile that one is there Oh you have it in there oh so it's a gray barrel it looks like right
oh that's the cap okay it's a large motion motion to approve i'm second david and Scarlet all in favor say I you have any questions thanks motion to
approve okay bringing a gift to the village oh thank you is that K cups or something okay set it up better fill out it's not for me that the village and you guys all saw a K cup machine in the hall no okay
coffee i have I don't even It says Arabic Arabica coffee so strawberry flavored coffee 6f105 Northeast 115th Street paint alert
see yeah just let we're just waiting for it to pull up here it is so the roof is black is it existing black or you're looking to paint it black are you guys actually painting the bricks different color or those are just
like samples of like what the bricks this this part okay so you you want it to you have this and then you're going to kind of do some texture painting using kind of these
colors to make it more look more natural gotcha they changed my mind because of the fact that my husband just pressure washed the brace to really clean it and not spend money on paint
yeah he did some No he did some labor up front to try and avoid doing more labor yeah so we typically So we don't typically approve black roofs um just because of the you know the the darkness
and the color um is there like I'm noticing you have like another color here called mineral soil which is kind of almost like a dark gray you know we do do grayers correct it's like right at the stop sign and to me that is really Yeah you would you
would be I I'm not really sure 113th and yeah it I mean remarkably it probably is gray and it just kind of comes across black you know um so it's just um it's such a very stark color that um or stark dark color
um like a charcoal like if you were to commit to a charcoal I think we would be appropriate yeah smoke color would would she be allowed to paint the fascia which the fascia is like the little vertical part that you see from the street would
you be allowed to paint that black and then also do the roof a slightly lighter color yeah i mean if that's up the board I mean like almost that would be an okay you know the trim i think black as long as it's not like a massive
amount of black you know trim you know yeah the fascia doesn't look like it's more dense i I just have a question about did did you think about like maybe it's going to maybe kind of be a little bit more susceptible to higher air
conditioning bills because of the the color like it it's going to absorb heat rather than reflect it like a white roof would reflect heat um versus a dark dark color is going to absorb it and it's going to it it is gonna Yeah it's going
to it's going to be hotter in your house but just just so you know or is it the other no no i'm I'm just I'm just saying I'm just saying for you like it maybe higher electricity bills is in the future
i think so yeah i I think it's a very real possibility very very very serious possibility because because white like the the white roof is going to reflect sunlight and and create like a cooler environment in your house versus
like the darker you go it's going to attract and make your house hotter yeah like I like this color you know I really like that you know and a
lot of the homes in that kind of Yeah sure no no it's not that I'm I'm just I'm just putting that out there we have a lot of roofs with charcoal gray roofs so so it is something so it's not like we're not gonna not You just wanted to bring that up telling you like hey like
you you may be a hundred 100 bucks or 200 bucks more a month AC but dark gray or terracotta those are both colors that are on roofs around that we would probably Yeah
not dark colors like that no approved colors usually are just very neutrals um pre-approved colors so if you um you know if you had colors to show us we could approve it now uh but if you don't Yeah
yeah if the board would give me authorization to like just look at it because you'll submit it to her she'll send it to me motion to approve uh paint changes pending violet are we okay with the other colors
keep in mind that when you paint actual bricks using these colors it might look very different than what you talking about the because those bricks in the bottom have like a little grayish mix with those colors but if you paint your
bricks I think it's going to look very colorful your your wall will look like a mix of Yeah how are you planning on like you have four colors here it says landscaping bricks edging like how are you planning on combining all those are
you going to paint each one a color i'm planning to do this so this brandy snaps okay then you're gonna kind of like Oh okay you're gonna do like a Okay softly will be clear that's the the landscape edging
okay one row in the grass it's And it's just this down here it's literally one row of brick just on the ground okay i was only asking because it's different than actually painting the brick
right so I want a main color and then I just want to sponge in those colors it may not be you know like radical you know you're thinking um and about the ones that you're talking we're just talking about the the trim and roof color it's really this I think
everything I think we're okay with all the other colors as you explained it so if you just submitted a charcoal I think I have a motion from David I think yes did I have a second pablo all in favor say I i okay so it's approved just with contingent on you
submitting that that color thanks for working with us you too thanks all right 6g 10910 Northeast 9th Court Concrete Driveway hello sir how are you thank you
all right you can go up there if you'd like um but if we have any questions that was uh 6G we just approved 6F now it's 6G you're the contractor uh I'm the agent for the property i take care One more
time i'm the agent for the property i take care of the stuff i was actually the one who did the calculation on that all right so concrete driveway including approach yes calculations 35 and 26
on your approach um I see that it's just kind of handdrawn in there um just you need to do a little flare at Okay okay the street not showing that but um I will and is there a reason why it's two different colors are you just showing it for the the property and the approach okay it's
not going to be two different No no it's going to be the same color just plain concrete all throughout do you have an idea you're going to line it up with the side the corner of the house there right um with the front of the property yes but it's going to be around five or six foot
from the the property line can I ask other question yes so your calculations just the areas through but there's like existing old uh like ping and like a little square and those aren't factored
into your calculations so are those getting demolished or removed oh they're removed yeah removed we recently bought the house and it needs a lot of work so Okay so it's just going to be the part that you color yes that's correct you just you can I just have you walk over real quick yeah you just explain what you just were saying about the five foot
because the way you have it drawn here is it lines up with the corner well it shouldn't be well most houses in the park are are 10 feet i mean this is happens to be 9.5 so this should be 10 feet so you have a line so you have if you line it up with the garage then you
have a 10-ft setback is that what you're planning to do okay all right all right can you just do me a favor when you um we're going to if we approve it um you just need to upload a um a document just shows a 10-ft setback you know just showing either you know it's drawn here
but we like to see things in writing okay all right we're good with that motion second scarlet all say I i good thank you yeah i mean
um I mean you got to resold it if you'd like i mean there's no rule that you have to but you you Well I think actually there is a rule there's a rule that actually does say you have to saw it yes but it could be ground cover or it doesn't have to Yeah it could be saw it could be plants it can be whatever you want has to be something green yeah
pervious material and that's Thank you very much thank you all right so there actually is like I was looking at it earlier tonight project that we saw last week but it actually physically said you cannot leave the area on either side is dirt i think that's one of the new things
that a couple years when he did all the driveway no like curbs and they added all those it also it says explicitly that your driveway has to be flush with the adjacent grade to the tree which I have a feeling you're talking about the one from last time which is that actually done i don't
know if you Yeah yeah i also drove by and saw that it's done and that it's elevated that's the one that collapsed that ramping they hit the blocks two of the blocks like fell off and they
All right so back to the agenda i have um minutes from um for a the old minutes from March 31st 2025 meeting Notice a lot of these haven't come back to us yet actually the they couldn't because of
the deadline yeah they couldn't have that's true david and Scarlet all in favor say I i carries all right next would be 6A 655 Northeast 118th Street uh garage door
standard garage door are these normally like prefinished white well there's some gray ones they I feel like they would need to they wanted to change
color so David and Ed all in favor say I i i 6e 930 Northeast 108 Street uh pergolon per roof area measurement that needs is this the house that we spent all that time with putting the
addition on the front remember with the roof and the flat and it doesn't I don't think they they never went forward with it now they're putting Is this the right one down at the bottom of not the bottom of I know yeah I think that it is where we
fought with them because they were making the the threestory garage flat like low garage you know it was Didn't they put a pool back there because this doesn't show a pool thought
there was a pool back there behind the house anyway this doesn't meet the need considering that the the pergola is for the pool based on the descriptions yeah and pool area and when you go on Zillow there happens to be a very big pool that
is occupying the majority of the So we have a we have a we have a incorrect survey and we have a um and the setback in the rear is 10 feet so there's a problem with the rear setback and this thing height of it
looks like it's probably it's not 18 foot yeah it's 9 ft so that that the real issue is the 10 feet awesome david is the is the back of that like fully paved inard most of it the surve the survey date is
like very recent it's from February yeah so it's their property line looks like it it's got about five feet of bushes and then it's solid all the way to the house i guess they're probably meeting the 50% because they're still back a
mile and a half back well I don't think I think that's the engineer's drawing so he probably just like cut and paste the survey information on his site plan basically so like because that that title block is an engineer oh oh oh was probably an old
survey that he used for his drawing you're right actions oh motion to deny pending change to come into um accordance with the rear setback let me just real quick i I heard the
motion let me just something up the site plan has like a lot coverage description not accurate right only has the house per ostensibly that pergola is sitting
yeah yeah no no it's already there but there is a you know like table not really a table but on this drawing he's actually giving you a lot coverage without anything in their rear yard but it's a pool that pavers so do we have It may still be under 50 but they need to
show an accurate lot coverage I believe okay it does say lot accessory buildings which is not a building not be more than 30% the rear area this is not a building it's an accessory structure um also I
don't think it's more than 30 no it's but when you add the pool but it's not accessory structures it's accessory building more than 30 so did are the calculations correct is that what you're saying so I think it's the setback like David said the the site plan is out of
date right and then they actually have on the site plan lot coverage information that doesn't reflect pool the papers all three of those I think so would be um they would be so kind that survey is inaccurate but the calculations are accurate and the
setback is loud the rear okay i had a motion from David and second Ed all in favor say I motion carries 6H 111230 Northeast 8th Court Drive be honest i think the thought of
strawberry cream coffee sounds and he's got a big sticker on it says clearance all right doesn't have like asphalt driver to do paper driveway seems it seems correct 23 and 30 yeah
motion to approve second david all in favor say I i 6 I 11801 Northeast 9th Avenue solar panels that's unnecessary just And they're all across the front i mean the house faces east east and
west so there's only one way or the other on this so well and the very interesting thing is the photo that they use satellite view the entire route and they don't have the back right area because the mass tree i mean obviously if they're west facing that that photo
was probably taken 11 a.m right by the time it's past noon that whole west side not by that tree no I mean there's but the thing is is there's no other location for No no i'm just And I don't think we can stop them
if we wanted to so motion to approve okay david All say I I I much So I don't know if you've dealt with solar panels so we try to we can't stop them by state law but the state law does say that we have the authority to
try and place them we can place them so our board has always been we don't we prefer not to have them on the front of the house so if there's ways of working with them to locate them on other pitches we do but this is an example of there's only there's no other place like
by law we can't stop them and you know they want to have solar panels a little amount of solar panels but it's just if there was if like if that tree wasn't there we could say "Hey how about switching this and putting more of the solar panels in the back not in the front you know it's it's a visual
harmony type of thing." Okay so that would and that's it all right so our next meeting is going to be in two weeks well the average of the two meetings still comes out to like an hour and a half
that's what I'm saying the average of the two of them yeah because it was that was three weeks yeah the next meeting is on the 21st everybody going to be here yes pretty good any other questions
good all right motion to adjurnn the 21st isn't the day after Easter or anything like that right easter's next week i don't know that's not the only person i don't think I think it's the
Friday before I think Friday i think visit