e e e ready is Scarlet coming right let's go ahe and get started um good evening everyone this is the village of biscane Park planning and designing review board meeting for Monday February 24th 2025 is now
6:31 the roll call to Ed Edward Lea David grun here Gage Haron here as well as Denisha from the building department um Scarlet is not here yet so um but Pablo did send a message that he
was not going to be here so I can get a sorry David Ed's excused hopefully Scarlet will show up shortly not we'll come back to her at the bottom of the meeting um so let's go ahead with everybody that's here tonight and uh we'll take everybody in order of
the agenda that's checked in believe everyone has um first will be 5A 890 Northeast Undernet 17 Street replacement offence Manny Lopez sure um You' like to go up to the microphone
um if we have any questions for you you know why it was old business looking for testing be the so I think you were I think this was in front of us you applied for both sides if I remember correctly and then
yes sir we denied one side and so you went ahead with the western side uh no no that's not it no no we it was it okay we replaced some um some slabs something of another property yeah so this is kind
is uh after the fact permit um what was missing I did set it up in the O system and then when after the hearing um it was during the time that you guys are released the the new CAD I think it's called okay and um cap yeah
cap yeah and then what it seemed like everything was transferred over from the application through everything else that was accepted with the exception of the dimensions which then I submitt it two sections both under
25.5 the two diagonals what color is I mean if you it's wood I assume yes yes maybe it's because the that he showing on 1
nth so The Back Fence comes out from the back by the C by the driveway uh yes and then it comes all the way out to the property line to the property line correct okay so that's the issue is that that fence is not allowed to be closer
than that hold on how high are you well that part is six feet but is there a fence that runs parallel to that that street parallel because it's not the best resolution but not in 17 long
ninth long ninth after between the back of the house and the back property line is there a fence that runs along no it doesn't run along it's this fence just kind of goes out and stops there's no it doesn't connect anything yeah it it uh stops where it stops where the Hedge kind of starts so the my backyard the
the one that's parallel to ninth is the hedges okay yeah so it it may have been denied previously because that fence that you're putting on that side is not permitted to come all the way out to the property um it was back on that side depending on the height of fence um it
was there originally it me the original fence with and and it went through nonconforming no no it went through the permanent process from the previous owner [Music]
um yeah if anything it's got got more lenient but it's still a 5 fo8 foot fence which means that it can't be closer than 7t to the property line it's technically a six foot fence
I mean if we wanted to we could make it 5et that that go that fence right there yeah sure yeah so in essence this it goes you see how I'm the drawing go all the way
up yeah okay so yeah so do you know roughly because that looks like it might say do you know roughly what that distance is because it looks like the actual
fence length but that's over there is only 18 saying 18.25 yeah what he's indicating is that it like when that it only goes between half to maybe 2/3 that the the bush comes back towards the
house so that the fence isn't that full duration of correct looks like it might um I can't read that that mention nine that number right there yeah it's 18.25 to the yeah from the yeah correct
okay so and your because you wrote in here that the fence is 18.25 so are you saying that the fence is really only like 12T or that the fence actually is the fence is actually 18.25 so then it
is going all the way out that's that [Music] 18 let me see where the property hold on the corner of the house the property line is that's why I'm saying it to me it looks like the bottom it said 75
right the width of the property so extrapolating it's about a third of that probably close to 25 ft from the corner of the house to the that back corner that's that's tucked away in the back the very back corner with the it has it looks like it runs a long Longs are runs along the driveway
connecting to yeah the back corner though you're saying is this is 75 and this is roughly a third of that which would make there's Dimensions there I mean we could just add up to the dimensions yeah but we can't read I can't read it I know there're on the survey if you had a better copy but do you have this
drawing with you by any chance the resolution on the scan is survey yeah I mean I I have the same survey and it it is when you zoom in it it it makes it a little bit difficult to read um yeah but it doesn't go to the actual
property line because the the Hedge kind of makes an L okay so the so we just need we just need you to signify that it does not go any closer than if you want we can give them five feet yeah the 5.8 feet I mean it's so the other thing we could have
him do if we could have him take go and take a picture of it and when he comes back with it vote on it then well he just has to he has to he has to testify that it's no closer than 5 feet he's saying that it returns back a little bit yeah that's fine so but we just need you
to tell us what that Dimension is how far back from the property line does it does it sit and then you know we can you know vote on that if just but right now if it goes out to the property line we would have to vote no on it because it's
there's a setback issue that yeah that is u in play there okay I wish this I wish this drawing was in a better resolution that we could actually read it yeah um it kind of looks like 30 yeah that's what I said yeah so if 30 minus 18 I mean he's got he would have enough
room we just have to have that documented that the fence do not come any closer than 5 feet to the that side property line um yeah I was hoping I had a better resolution for that particular document
but I think I have the same thing you guys have it's pretty so we're going to be here probably for an hour an hour to two Okay you would like to run home and measure it come back to us we can pick you back up and then if you can he measuring like the distance off the corner of the house because he not going to know where his property line is well
he's got the is there but he knows that measurement it's 18t something know what the fence is you have this survey at home in a better resolution this this has the that bush that returns it's on because all he did
was replace place the old one so this correct on Google Google Street View you can see that's clearly significantly more than 5et based off of what the it's definitely more than 5et from the Hedge
for the hedges the hedges actually it's not that I don't believe you I just I want it documented I just have I need a dimension saying this is this is five plus feet back from the property line okay I mean even if you wanted to testify to that or something um um if
you can go and take a like you just get a tape idea the length of the Bush and then take a picture of it come back then we could say or do you know where your property line is at do you have a rough idea where at the telephone poles that usually yeah the property line is right where the Hedge I I guess where they
actually put the the the actual hedges in that's where so if you go and measure from that point back to where the fence is at Y and tell us that Dimension we would be able to if it's more than five feet then we would probably like vote on it okay approve it I think we can we can
do that run home real quick and help us out we can move you forward absolutely and just hold on that we'll come back when they okay thank you sir all right we'll come back to that uh all right next will be new business 6B 805 Northeast 115 Street um by the way I
just want to add something to the agenda under 7D the same resident 805 Northeast 115 Street has a question for us so we'll take that after we take six B okay so so this is 805 Northeast 115 Street vence repair
Lopez good evening ma'am this a replacement or a repair no it's a replacement okay so it's just remove and replace okay so it's not aair and it's a wood fence horizontal it's wood on the front facade and um
chain link along the back so we got and one the first issue is is on the 8th Avenue side okay you're not allowed to go in front of the house so the part that's from the from the
corner of the garage or driveway whatever that is forward to the property line um closest to 9th Avenue or 8th Avenue um that part is not allowed under the code no no I'm replacing what's on
the corner of the garage to the neighbor side okay but there's if you look at the survey that was submitted there's a red it's it's red what's let see here what he's referring to so this is the drawing that we're reviewing that's basically indicating where you plan on doing a fence and so it's this portion here
that's not permitted from here you can go from here you can go then um so we would just need something resubmitted not showing that because we you know that can't be not allowed okay second thing is is the part that's wood
is that from the where the gates are at the part that face the street yes okay so the part that's along the back and along the one side is going to be chain link so basically wants to confirm that all of this is wood
all of this is wood this is okay okay I have oh Sor how high is that 5 foot all right and it's a horizontal slats there's no pool um there no no you
also um the the it has to be no more than a half inch between the the wood yeah Flats so you can't climb over it okay um so you're allowed to have the wood spats you're allowed to go up to six feet um you're allowed to have the gates all that but um it just can't be
climbable okay so uh based on that uh you just have to submit a new drawing um with the that section removed because I would be worry of just just that red line line and for your sake too I would also denote it fix this because
the whoever submitted this you or your contct contractor the fence length you're saying is 247 ft which is probably the whole perimeter but this is just the wood part so I don't want the inspector to go out and you put in chain link in the back and they say your permits for wood
everywhere yeah what I would do on this page is probably just make these two lines a different color right make that blue you can edit it um and then here a little next I want you to get a pro for all wood and then they give you a hard
time okay that's easy so the other qu are we done with the fence I get a motion on this oh sorry we're just gonna have like a conent that she willit separately yeah I mean we can just make a motion that this is approved but she has to submit the
drawings motion to approve pending uh upload of a corrected fence drawing that also delineates the two types of fences David Ed all in favor say hi hi I don't know if I announced but
Scarlet is here Scarlet all right so we also um for the same property 7B 805 Northeast 115 street she has some questions for us so I have several other permits that are open but there seem to be confusion um back and forth so one is
the driveway then inspect ctor was there last week and he approved the driveway on the front facade the one on the garage side there seems to be a discrepancy between the measurements on the survey and what's actually there so
he said he was going to talk to Leo plans of what's the permit that's she said she has a driveway permit okay but I'm just want to make sure you said that somebody came out and and approved the drawing for the driveway so does that mean that there's actually a permit for the drive yeah
exting do she has a permit and during inspection they flag a discrepancy between the dimension on the drawing that was permitted and approved and what's actually buil that accurate that or a discrepancy between the survey and what's actually there not built
but I can show you the problem is that the inspector didn't know how to proed so he said he was going to talk to Leo so how would I get clarification on the driveway this is [Music]
what but this this drawing is what got previously by this board yes you guys so but from the inspection he I'm curious as how he would extrapolate that because that 29.4 is Tak from your to property line unless
it'ser line of surve right so I don't know how he would determine the dimension could concern is that the driveway goes and touches the dve the road nothing to do with the median middle of the
street it's got to come out and yeah the point being I don't know why he cares right you're drawing clearly shows it from the house to the street and the wi so I don't know why is it closer is it closer to the
proper is it it's built exactly the way way we have concerns if somehow wider orc so as far I mean we've done what we're supposed to and you know we made sure that it all is is within our code
so I'm not sure we don't know we're not really in charge of the building inspectors and stuff so we're not sure why he would have know you have to go to the building department or email go through the the portal and email them why was this can you give me
an explanation of why it was denied yeah okay um the windows originally you guys approved the whole backside to be sliding doors which took a long time but you got
it approved we don't want to do that anymore we just want to keep it as is and just remove and replace the existing windows so they uploaded the changes the window company um and I just wanted to know what what do what I need to do or
so they just have to submit a revision of the permit we did that so then that if that's the case it would come to us it would be put on our agenda so it hasn't been put on our agenda yet so was that did that just happen that within the last two weeks yeah he uploaded on
Friday okay so it's not it hasn't it would be on our next meeting because our agenda closes at the beginning of last week okay so if it just came in on Friday then it would be on our next agenda which so we would review it any
revisions to existing permits at our next meeting okay so you guys are going to review it okay so I just want to explain it to you because when I've emailed everyone's very confused about it but it's easy it's like sliders anymore you're just G remove and come back before us just because rision to an
approved permit yeah it's only in the back of the house yeah there's very little likelihood that we won't approve that back to the building department after us just could be okay um last one is a structural change that I submitted do
you guys see that that's been that's over two weeks now is it a are you is it a structural like as you're building something new onto the house like that's changing no I'm reinforcing a a wall that we removed so that would be that's that's actually not us it's actually
would be a building official um permit that the the structural engineer would be looking at that though we would be we would be more concerned about hey I'm changing the outside wall and the setback Lim you know things like that but if it's just a structural building
thing um the building official would be looking at that you should be able to see in your cap portal like what's going on with it that it's in review yeah it's in review it's just another confusing then just taking point it's in review
then you're good you know you're you're in the right place you still need them to review but okay okay all right let me see that's a building official okay and I think he's in on
Wednesdays Tuesdays and Thursdays who's he what's his name the building official uh Pedro Martinez okay I have Pedro's information yeah you might be able to they have like 30 Days review it so long been submitted but less than 30 days they can tell
you yeah it's been about that I just think it's 30 days then start pestering them and complaining yeah okay okay any other questions no all right thank you thank you good night you
too um came in huh oh they're 5A okay they're back oh hi all right uh we're gonna go back to 588 890 North 17 Street you'd like to come back up to the microphone sir
all right so what'd you find out so uh looks like the property line is 30 um well from the house to the property line uh we measured 12 feet from the end of the fence to the property line David Ed all in fav say I I motion carries you're good thank you good so
any other the next step or no I mean I mean if it would be great if you actually put those dimensions on the plan and re-uploaded it like I don't know if you could print it and just hand right on there um the the 12 feet it just would make it it would just make the inspection process easier
okay I the inspector won't give you a hard time okay thank you next steps it'll still go to the building department after they still process the review and approval before it's officially okay sounds good thank you thank you thanks for doing
that all right uh 6E I believe is the next one 10831 Northeast 10th Avenue driveway replacement hello a second you're at 23 and 18 for your lot coverage
are you next to that little Park uh there's like a little Park that goes up to like that's like at the at the bend of 10th Avenue yeah am I at the right one here and what's the material concrete concrete it's a
concrete driveway it looks like it's 20 feet wide 190 square feet Yes goes out there's a little apron motion to approve why is the the approach the approach in the
driveways 20 maybe there's a little walkway on this there yes is is the the the driveway it's wider than the approach that that drives up to it is it because there's a walkway or something yes okay okay um David Ed all in favor say I I
motion carries okay thank you thank you ma'am else com in six what six we have 6D here oh okay oh got it okay
okay um all right next will be 6G 11929 Northeast 6 Avenue metal fence metal fence yes hello sir hey how are you just a second it's taking a second or to load it's just on the sides of the house
uh side and the back pretty much entire backyard are you talking about the setbacks or the height which drawing are you on down this one that has the highlighted number
numers has distances but also chain you're Ser yeah yeah but I think that's just existing conditions placing has a design drawing at the bottom but it only shows the like only clearly shows the gates on the side
doesn't really show yeah you're is this just for the gates at the front or is this all is there more fence no actually all the way around the backyard so detail1 this says yeah but I think that's like a
construction detail 01 this she yeah that's like a sediment control erosion control construction yeah so we're not really seeing on the drawing where exactly the fence is going uh there should be a file called like a
fence outline you don't this is all we we have just so you see but we have whatever the application information so board survey friend details right Eastern and then this which is existing site plan
proposed but this doesn't talk about this one just says like provide slit fence at Perimeter but I think yeah we don't have that so he's basically got a survey it looks like that's just highlighted you can show to the
chairman I mean it's kind of standard issue sides and back oh yeah we don't have that so I I would say motion to approve pending upload of the right I see it
sir trust us okay no it's just it's it's different than what's on the survey the survey is showing something else um well not survey the the whatever this ID drawing sp-01 because I think that's like a a construction
fence detail A1 it's a metal fence what color is it uh should be dark brown brown okay um so we're just gonna ask that you submit that drawing please um is everybody okay with that yes okay did
I get a motion already or motion to approve pending upload of okay David Scarlet say I I motion so it's approved it's just you now have to submit that that form okay and also I wanted to clarify later on I was
thinking just on the ground what where what a concrete fence what do you want it to be like half height with with the materiality or go all the way up
so the one thing is is then in the doors would the door would say the same metal door put so the one thing that the code says is what you do on the left side facing the street you should also be doing on
the right side so that the two have the same stylistic approaches can I see can I see wall is acceptable fence material but it's no F no further than the front of the house yeah he's showing on the
sides okay but if you were going to do it on the left side then you need to do it on the right yeah but if you if you let's say we're keeping the metal door and just getting rid of the little fence part of that part you could make the the masonry
you do that on the right side and do however you want to do it just has to be this nothing just to clarify if you have a door on one side you're not obligated to have a door on the other it's just that the idea is that the materiality of the fence is consistent on both sides if you had a concrete wall with a rot iron
metal gate on one side and then just a concrete wall on the other side that none of it is it can be above 6 ft tall okay all right all right okay 7A U discussion items um 724
Northeast 119 Street new construction second preliminary review 724 do we have some plans this is second review guess we'll go up here Chang make it shorter look at
that to see you guys all right so I remember this yeah yeah the other was the access to the front entrance that we put the walk away from the okay do you reducing the it was because you at it was because it was a
lot cover issue right oh exactly so we ruse the B wow don't put a p out there anywhere you're going to go over your lot coverage um yeah
umbrella umbrell okay so we're okay it was and then there was we just we were confirming the the 15 15 10 10 okay the comment we had was the roof was only
one yeah so they also the Elations so you can see it there you can see it there and and and in the rear there's the same detail in the back just I'm not sure if you did this
because of us but I'm wrong guys but because this is on the front of the house you don't have to have a privacy screen that goes all the way up the same way that you would on the back because the front third is treated differently than the back two
but it's nice and it's nice that they did that yeah nice for the future buyer [Music] homeowner but it's but it's an architectural detail there's no requirement that you have it or don't don't have it because it's in the front same
before here it's concrete is that what that we showing yes yeah wall that goes up to the so this is all Second Story this is the window in the back that's in the so those are and these windows are in the front
of the house there's no window there so privacy issues they they took care of the the sight lines okay any other notes they for the one the height they
do we have yeah the predisposition plan you guys have that surve see no surve see no didn't bring it here we have it the next one is the voting one so we
just need to make sure that it's part of the package for we take from discussion correct 27 from that's just like the tick is missing but any it would be
yeah flood is what but typically it's at most in the village plus s plus seven or plus eight I think plus seven mostly okay which you know is basically a little bit lower than that
but still they've got another foot change yeah you have up till 28t because we measure the height from base flood elevation not Crown a road we don't in terms of the maximum height of the building it's not from the base FL
elev no we I'm assuming here is plus seven for this proper yeah okay but they're underneath their okay and plus actually be back okay so normally we have three reviews this is your second review no
this is the third oh this is the actual third yeah Oh I thought it said second yeah he said second but he the third okay so then we're going to move this to being voted on at the next meeting un yeah we don't have the tree survey tree survey is
missing um the the existing Tree Service tree survey I'm sorry yes with the the Landscaping PLS it's it's kind of it's both yeah but mainly it's that you need to know if you're taking down any specimen trees to build this right and if you did then that needs to be mitigated properly so
okay we just need a existing tree Serv do we need that in order to get approved it's it's usually part it's part of our approval yes to have the tree serving he wasn't a requirement last year right typically new builds we ask for
many we but we don't but I don't I we didn't wi it okay any any anything else he he requires that in order to start designing you remember every project I
actually have it in my email I mean I can show it to you right now okay if you like yeah I mean do we want to move it to approval is that what you're if they're not taking down trees and it's clear from the tree survey then yeah there no there's no
huh we know why it says second I don't know why it says second on there my not from the last yeah which was from January 2 this is the second this is the second one not the third this is the second because
your first was on January 22nd so okay so would say make it easy and if we could if you can upload the res survey into the packet and just have a copy of it printed for the one here it
is hard to see it um so since this is only second let's move it to to to to the vote for the next meeting no and include the tree serving here yeah they have it on record that is a
right was your first and we typically have three so in the next one we're not going to do third we're actually going to move it to the agenda for voting for The in two weeks what else do we need to upload other than the uh I think the house looks good just last time we didn't we didn't talk
about the the the tree survey last time we said that the only thing uh needed was this and the sidewalk and that's it so what need know but that's why we have three reviews because we don't catch everything the first time so now second review we're asking for the treeos plan bring that next time was that not on
your notes for trees no from my written notes I thought you this was going to be the last one and I was going to walk out with the the we always have three reviews for new constru right sometimes that gets Advanced if you come in the first time and it's perfect then we you
know we limit it to two but we typically always have this was the third one that's why yeah but it's not so and again that's why we do three because sometimes we miss something in the first one right so it's the it's a way of catching everything try to catch everything but I think what we're telling you is we're g to move to
the voting agenda for next time we're not really gonna dive into details again right it's going to get approved unless you know suddenly everyone changes mind so the M the treat so we can check that off the box right and then next time it'll get you know in the meantime you can release SH pece now yeah you know
the design is set excellent looks good okay excellent but that's it right the only thing that we're missing is the Tre service and I'll make sure and then you have another one right no not for today not today I think the oh sorry
it's all right so we're moving to agenda for the next meeting all right the next one is 7B I might as well just stay up here um 729 Northeast 117 Street new construction second review thank
you thank you so much problem thank you how you guys doing all good thanks that's the old one just case we need to revert back to it there's a new one I did notice some items that we need to address some design change and
ordinances so when did we see this the first time last last time 5th yes okay all right yes there was a good list of comments I didn't that so this is that garage that's way in the back of this property that's been around forever okay
we can go over the list of comments if we just want to go over real quick okay okay so the first one the other was of total loot coverage even though I put it here but let's go over the loot coverage sheet yes this is being demolished oh so it's a new construction correct this is
demolished trust me we we we actually went through the trouble of Designing different alternative ways to maintain it but it just it was first of all it was a non-conforming Structure because it was to it was a duplex so let's say we were going to turn it into one so we like let's try to turn it into one
structure either guest house and everything but we had to connect it so when we started to connect into it we couldn't bring he wanted Modern AR modern architecture so it just clashed and we we literally fought for a while and it it didn't work so he was like got to a point where he was so frustrated he's like just St with okay so here's the lock cover
I picked up every impervious area that we were going to we were going to have this is a this is a huge lot res it's not that just deceptive because it's so far back yeah you and I huge will probably say we're on 12 14 15 okay and then go through acre and Griffin but
this one is so we're right under the lock coverage so my lock coverage calculations right here we're at the requirements the maximum is 5,400 I calculate the space and we're just under and the red is the pochade area that you see the hatch which I even picked up the steps I picked up the slap
for the generator uh the driveway so it's patched accordingly so it works so right now based on this illustration we're in compliance with the lock up okay setback requirements as1 same uh as one same thing so again 30 foot front
setback uh the rear we have we we're actually allow 10 but we're at we're exceeding it at 28 and then this side on the we're actually 10 is the required setback which I should have put it in red which I started doing 30 over okay this is my this so I us to put it
in red okay yes okay so my narrative set Tack location was one of the items I put it over here again we added more drain field but that's going to be regulated by HRS yes exactly uh and I did speak with him about you guys tell me that they're started put in in front and I
mentioned to them as like you know requirement we're changing no so we're changing the ordinances in because I'm very active in my shes and we have the same problem so yeah so no the shores we're actually going to change the ordinance so we can put it in the side and the back because
now we're changing the parking situation because you know it's two Park two parking spaces per home we're changing it now now if you convert your garage like City Miami if you convert your garage they want you to add another parking space so that's where we're trying to do with Miami sh because every they're going to we're going to try to get like three or four parking spaces
based on a square footage the house because if not you're going to have cars on the swes and so we do it by bedroom I know by bedroom so that's that's what we're changing now but you guys are not there yet I don't want to changee your ORD okay it's gonna happen so again they make it put us in the front we'll
redesign it but I already spoke with them I know I put it in the back this is like my fifth project always putting in the back that's my request uh but that's always there uh second Second Story height requirements okay height or what sets uh I had height because I took it
from your list okay you had a issue and then you also had the second FL setback had figure out yes let's look at the setback that's on the next the next drawing right the next drawing so I I I did an error so so yeah so 30 foot is the maximum and then I just read the oress again because it's 30 foot Max and
then it has to be five feet Max anything above 30 so this one I have to move to five and this one I have to move to five this as well correct so here's the question I have for you this is this screen wall so I would have even if it's screen we move it to 5 feet because we were
talking about I mean I I don't know the answer I'm asking now it is a walk even what if I do it as a fence or a screened how high is it is it uh is it the size of a handrail or is it up or is it high it's tall because we have the it should be 5et it should be five okay that's
fine I know it acts as a wall it acts it does act as a w yeah okay so yeah so that was our 30 30 foot Max here and 30 for Max here but I got to push this over now I got to redesign the space to accommodate 5T but I mean I got to redesign that whole thing but it's just
going to move that way for compliance okay uh we took out the rooftop Terrace so I started showing uh I lik it correct so but the Terrace on the top had a so screen it from The View then he was
exceeding the overall height so what I started showing in the drawings I sh I give you my 1/3 and my 2/3 everything P to this line in the rear has to be um obstructing yes just
diminish this is the diminishing view you you have transom transom well this is obscure obscure obscure okay does that that complies obscure yeah okay and this is a trans we'll get to the elevations when you'll see that um okay so architecture septic tank number two was the side walls cannot exceed fing
length um I usually like to provide a narrative diminishing views again I show it on the elevations on you see this I transom transom Master Terrace needs a screen so we'll move that as a to five feet but
it's but it's still some kind of it's a screen what does that look like I mean is it a okay we'll see elevation since you're asking let's we got renderings too let's go to the Rend guys I see these guys are it's a little more easy to see
so here's the front Okay one of the items was discussion was the elevation of the high hierarchy of the structures yeah didn't have correct it had a flat roof okay so you have so I did three there's one there okay so okay I see one
two three broke that volume up great nice we've cladded it we stoned I like the the materials was the selection of the owner he liked it a lot I I I'm missing some more illustration I want to put down lights in here Stu like that it's gonna be some
Coral Yeah okay or maybe a limestone but it will be a natural stone he likes the the black frame he's a he's an artist nice guy uh let me go this side you could not have done something with that existing structure in the b i I tried okay so here's more I it's like a Turf
block kind of thing yeah that was the screen that we're trying to a gree block and then we're try to maybe do um green wo block what was your question before about the or elevations of the the side just to see the height so the upper
yes weit it that that's the front elevation I know again so this is the transom this is the double height space so I wrote it here double height space again I show my diminishing views where is my my 2/3 1/3
so this back is the view but there there's a double space so they're not going to see anything so I'm sh Applause yeah okay okay it's diminished I mean yeah can stand here but I know that's that's that's yeah it's fine it's fine
it's di okay okay it is true that's diminished uh I mean you might be actually I mean just a yeah brand and when you put put these two bathrooms back an additional two fees sorry you might to get some face front front facing windows in these
showers or that's a that's a because you're gonna have five feet here you might have to be able to get another light and that what it won't have to be obscured because it's facing the front you know sliver window or something to to throw some light in there and actually be able to see out and not be
standing in a bathroom with a obscured window okay you know or even just take that and move it up as a transom you know and then that way you don't have to have it obscured you can actually look out and see birds in Blue Sky and you
know it doesn't it doesn't require you know if it's up high enough your line of sight is is diminished so that would be just something just not big fan of like yeah I'm not a big Windows a big one like that you have no
view of anything so okay we got rid of the Widow's walk um you like that the front facade requires two heights we did the facade and then uh total height now the total height is
26 well less than 26 26 is by Max Gary so what bu zone are you in because if you're at 14 foot ngbd 14 because I think most homes in the in the village are 7 foot baseb elevation so you'd be at 80 by minimum
okay okay you could be I gets like let me get the elevation certificate yeah that would be that thing would be you know very high house the height is measured from
that right we would need to know what your Bas elevation is and then you can be 28 26 I think Max your max is 28 or 28 Max but from base Flood now if your base flood's down here at seven then you're 7
um I'm still pending the tree disposition which we got confirmation is going to be done so I'll have that but there are know protected trees that we're we're taking down um I'll get you the new elevation the new datums and some uh spot elevations for contouring
let just confirmation on the survey um I think that's it that's all of my notes and this is the second round oh yes yes so here's this par War scen equipment and then I put a fence on the side you don't see it here I just put like a little
gate so the generator is underneath the this roof of the house yes it's kind of tucked underneath like that yes that's interesting partition and this is supposed to have a a fence or just a gate that you just open and close and I put I had the
condensing you on the roof uh since we took out the rooftop Terrace and everything I just put it on the ground floor so they both condensers are here yeah that's good that you to go higher on that w i mean you're GNA have to have fence across here on
each side or somewhere does for the um the pool protection so why would you why do you need to have a fence in front of the generator on the side of the house he was trying to appe like a screen but for us the screen is important to the street I mean on the side it helps with
noise for the Neighbors you I just want to screen it basically what is I may have to go higher on that I got to I got to figure out what and thatal units were so I'm probably going to ask for like 56 inches for the wool for now I got to play with the elevation because those units nowadays are getting taller and taller and
taller um I think that's about it for now okay any uh natural gas M or you put tank well this would be the tank I don't know whe if it has natural gas I got to find out I got to find out I don't know if he
does have so where is the box that is the Gen this is the generator this is the the actual generator but you're talking about the gas I think you're going to end up having an underground fuel tank some propane so you talk about the propane type so the propane type if you do like a 400 gallon or whatever 200 will bury it yeah but you're put that I
would probably be somewhere around here yeah 100 I always bu those tanks I can't stand them okay no I it's like for instance griffing you you can hook up to the main it might be there there might be a gas
line they're kind of randomly throughout the village I'll verify that but that's a good question though but it goes down on the last house on Griffin coming from the north that has gas me I have gas you do so at some point it
comes from the South but like go down 10th Avenue and it stops at I think 113th or something like that so your owner can this way or com that way coming from the north there's a gas there's a gas line in there so 2 max
okay okay so we'll move it to the third reading the next meeting review well let me let me finish the drawing then I'll you'll submit it just saying we have one more review I appreciate it so even if your drawing it seems like
get fixed pretty quickly but um we will need to wait for the yeah piece to come so you may fin quickly but that one yeah to try to we already authorized it it was supposed to be today but we didn't have it complete okay thank you sir
thank you guys all right next would be discussion 7c 826 noreast 121st Street exterior model yep thank you so first of all it's a little bit more than exteror remodel complete
remodel correct yeah this is how are you this is this isn't about the fence so we approved the fence at the last meeting I believe right it's already been installed it's up this is about the the remodeling of the
structure because I remember there was the gate Side Access that was coming in through a neighborh yard or something like all right so this is the um so we we move we have a discuss what we do is on when we have major Renovations or or new
construction like you just saw we have we have a plan review discussion so we in which we give the applicant feedback on you know the code and so on and so forth so they can make any revisions to move forward um so
um just reviewing it the first question and I think maybe you you might want to discuss the fact that it's in a single family Zone and you're asking for a duplex I think there were some questions there's a tri a Triplex two on
the second floor two on the first I I believe the plans are for a duplex the plans are also uh being um modified and will be submitted uh within the next few weeks or what is that I'm sorry
duplex okay so again you're in a one family Zone um so moving forward that would be the first obstacle is the fact that you have you're you have a non-conforming structure in a that has been
discontinued for more than six months so it needs to come into compliance with our current code which is one family it just sorry this is this as an aside the starting on page uh 40 of 80
all of the drawings at that point then going further south are all duplex plans where it has bedroom one bedroom two bedroom three first four and it's like a matching matching plan so these look like from from those pages down look
like all duplex drawings yeah I guess he's confirming right there they're proposing a remember seeing there two or three not so that would be issue number one is
the a single family Zone um property surveys well that's that's fine that a county says that but our code says this is no Zone B which
is um um detached one family residents dwellings so the county can say that say that I mean but it's our our code is is more restrictive than the county um we dictate our zoning and so
um the other thing too is is there lot coverage on this I mean that was the the next question is is we have maximum lot coverage 50% so is the existing structure and it looks like the garage
is still trying to be maintained are those two structures above the the total lot coverag is that above the the we have a calculation for lot on this the the sheet at the very front of
this is not filled out so we don't have the exact lot coverage all the way back up to the top eight eight of 80 it's got like building area but obviously it's taking do
it just one adjusted building the errors 32 by 50 and then 142 by what is the total light cover that's what he's trying to figure out it's it's a lot that's 60 by 105 lot
area is 6300 s okay all right 60 by 105 3,000 square feet maximum 3,000 ft I mean that's not stated on any of the drawings here sir I'm sorry what is now
the the maximum lot coverage I mean that you know the documents need to have these Dimension or calculations on here for us to to we shouldn't be actually calculating them up on the Das yeah so the building
is 32 by 50 which is600 front porch area is 14 fo2 by 5' 10 8 and the rear is 15856 94.5 so total 17794
1833 by what 18 36.5 or 36 36 fo5 so okay so but again we have 3,000 total lot coverage but remember that 3,000 also has to include parking spaces so each bedroom you know if you have a how
many bedrooms is this even if we were to consider the duplex that means that we have to have two two three parking spots per unit six parking spots on the property parked off the off the street
and then how many fit in the you still have four still need four so the total combined the two structures is 2447 okay so again we shouldn't be calculating this the applicant should be calculating this but we're just stating
the fact is that you about 50% lot coverage maximum lot coverage including parking including any par Parkways anything so that's that's issue number two um issue number three is setbacks this structure has been non-conforming
it's non-conforming it's been discontinued so any application must bring it into compliance with our setbacks which are 30 feet in the front and 10 ft on the sides I just hypothesized for a
driveway Park AC 20 if you had four parking spes on property probably around he only has 15 obviously we would need from possible we
would obviously need the sheet from the applicant that is the lock coverage sheet that would kind of confirm that with get math on all of this is what the actual coverage but if
[Music] the if so the current footprint of the the buildings are you saying if it's greater than 50% what happens to the buildings if it's greater than
50% lot coverage so so your the buildings are non-conforming and they're not and they they have not you know they have to any application has has to be to bring into compliance of our of our code our code says you have a maximum lot
coverage of 50% so the existing structures that are there are non-compliant well I mean according to the main calculations the actual structures um seem to be within the square footage of that would be applicable but the thing is is you have
to provide parking you have to provide all these other items that have to be on the property so you have to take in account the parking spaces not just the actual structures um but then we have setback issues we have a front setback issue we
have a side setback issue um you know s what what again what are those numbers I'm sorry you have a 30 foot front setback and a 10 foot in the side and 10 foot rear setback so since the structures were non have been are
non-compliant and they're uh they've been discontinued anything improvements that we would re would approve would have to meet those setback issues so the structures as they are I don't see
how could be approved based on our current code for reference right now one your current side setbacks of that existing structure are fo6 on one side and on the other same for the re
ACC structure so I mean the the only way forward using these existing structures would be to have a a relief from our code which would be a variance um so that would be you'd have to rep
you know apply for a variance to satisfy the lot coverage setbacks the the the number of dwelling units um if that's what you were um wishing to do
um you know um I think we all know the history of the house and we know what all the everything that's been going through you know it would actually personally be kind of cool to see it rehabbed and kept but not as a to me
personally the the it's in a single family zone so it would be a really cool one F single family house and you get some variances for the the you know you work with us we we want to try you know obviously you want to keep it you wouldn't have gone through all this to
not want to keep the structures but um you know possibly and again I'm speaking for myself not the board um um you know you know variance request seems to be the only path forward on this and um you
would need a r variance for a whole slew of things to to make this happen um um well we would require a very you know a plan that shows the parking spaces that for all the parking any walkways or anything like that like
we do anybody else a site plan that shows that the guy here just you know came under 5ou five 50% um so we would make sure that whatever improvements to this would meet the 50% rule but it's it's possible it
would be tight but it's possible that that that could be done and and uploaded from a coverage perspective under yeah so if it's if you could manage the law coverage then VAR setbacks for the use use unless unless they pursued a
single family so procedurally is that then two independent variances or like is it is there the potential that we allow them to keep it based off of the setbacks and preserving the nature of it but we do
not allow it to be f as a duplex well they'd have to ask for a variance for each specific item so it would be well it would be one variance just asking for for different things um now I mean I'm just the other you know
just thought it just cross my mind is is we have to provide a parking spaces that provide parking off the off on the property right now the building is 15 feet back correct got 15 parking spaces up to the building
it'll have to go from those two little bump outs it would have to go all all the way out and and but here's the other thing this is what I just thought was we have a existing 5 foot6 setback on one side and a six foot6 setback on another there's not enough room for the cars to
go around the house and park in the rear yeah and then the village I believe is is abandoning the alleys so you know conceivably you could say you could drive your car down the alley but I think the alleys are not being maintained anymore so there's conceivably not a way of getting a car
back to the garage correct I mean am I wrong on that I mean are they do we know the the alleys are being maintained what's the if if they were open to converting it single family what's the maximum parking
station well depends on the number of bedroom yeah so's there's a ma is four plus gu four more bedrooms three SPAC so it was converted to a single bedroom single
family home regardless of bedroom well I mean with their ass excuse my Lang out into the speaking for myself one foot of park the car touching the house you know but again it's not like personally one foot of the bumper
into right way the sale if they're willing to make all the other concessions bring this into compliance get variances for setback okay can can you get a variance on the number of parking spaces
per room so if we did a duplex we would need six parking spaces could you get a variance on that you would need so the duplexes with one two three or four need two units per two spaces per unit plus
0.5 spaces per for visitor parking so that's a total of five five parking spaces that are needed for a um duplex answer your question think you can get a variance for anything ask other than metal roofs the only thing
that in the code that says you cannot get a variance is for a metal roof yes now of course understanding that when you start going to ask for variance and you want a and b and c and d and e and f extremely broad variance request for
so many things going bit more narrow focused on certain things like setback we get setbacks so I keep the structure make a Home Spaces of parking yeah you have crap shoot with the Commissioners right it's up to them but I think you improve your chances by
not asking for 20 Varian right and what you have to understand too is in all those variant stuff one of the main conditions that Commissioners are keeping in their head is if we Grant this for this person what hole are we opening for every other resident like there are a whole lot of duplexes if
they come back and they're like hey I only want to have one parking spot because you let them adjust their number it becomes more difficult so those incrementally it's the of saying oh wow this is a nice old building that happened to have non-conforming setbacks
that's a different conversation that somebody wanting to do new construction and saying oh I want to build to five ft the property situation but the adjustment to number of parking spots is going to be a tougher thing because any Resident could ask for that type
variance if if you set a PR just keep in mind whether or not we give a variance for two parking spaces or whatever there's still going to be person sleeping in each one of those rooms or visiting and so we're end up with all these cars that you know it doesn't make
sense to give relief on parking requirements more willing to accept set don't be greedy ask for a a number of variances that that are reasonable and um because that's actually one of the things that the re the variance request is a reasonable
request um right now you're leave you're dealing with a house that was built in 1920 so that's your hardship is that the structure was built in a certain way so whether or not I have enough parking spots are not like you were just saying
self-created issue not so much a driveways not allowed to exceed 40% of your that's that's yard one one part of the code says you need three spaces usually that works out fine in most conditions you have a proper
setback doesn't three spaces in that setback is probably more and actually that's that is actually another thing that would have to be a variance probably a variance but a variance again that someone could accept because they're if they're in if they're accepting the setbacks that just kind of
goes hand in hand a variance but it but it would have to be something that would be stated in the variance that you have he's gonna actually have to ask for relief from the 40% rule because we do if you in in the front yard if the parking spaces are in the rear that the 40% rule doesn't apply
maximum lot coverage in that 15 by 60 foot and that would be I mean in my opinion not being commissioner that would be a more acceptable thing because the old way of doing it would have been to drive through the alley and that's I'm not I'm not 100%
not sure on that but I I thought the village yeah where where is the I'm sorry the alley where is that that's behind there's a 20 foot alley it's property hour there's no way of there's no way of physically the garage for this through
the prop property there's a 5 foot and a six foot setbacks on each side is there a way to add the alley to the property there actually is a um there is a part of the code that says something about um
abandonment of RightWay um doesn't look that bad you should take the entire length of the alley have a sh property try to claim the entire alley yeah I I I think I would check yeah
Village Hall about the status of that is it abandoned or is it still active I is abandoned then probably who who would know that manager the public works maner we have a public works maner
currently it feels like a legal is a 20 foot but be 10 foot on one side yeah yeah I'm saying potentially they would be able if it is abandoned to take 10 foot plus the WID of their by the WID of their proper is there any right away on the side of the property or just the
back alley I think there's an easement on the side there's there's a there is a it's it's labeled as an alley on the plan but it is I believe it is a RightWay theill is there another there's there's on the other
side of the that 20 foot alley there's this I believe that alley was put in it's a it's for utilities runs all the way down 8th Avenue I believe this is eth yeah goes all the way down from like 121st all the way down to huh yeah I
don't know I'm not sure um some reason on the south the alley that Gap disappears properties are it's it's there it shifts around it goes because we've dealt with it on houses further south than this
along um 8th Avenue um there is an alley to the West um we do have something in our code 5.3.5 about vacation of rideways um there's a whole four points that have to be done in order to do so
but um that would be we somebody applied for the vacation it would be the village commission have we would probably have to review it and then make a recommendation on it I mean maybe that's an answer if that adds enough yeah it'll help I don't know that how wide is that alley on the side 20
feet so you pick up 10 so then you'd be complying on that side Frank Frankly frankly with the two structures that are on there right if you said hey we're going to single family have three three spots in the front yard they're only
going to be 15t deep and so we're going to need help with the 40% rule but if you're okay with the Sid backs and you're okay with the 40% Rule and US putting three parking spots like and I can't speak for the commission I can't speak for the rest of the Planning and
Zoning Board but that's probably close to the smallest ask that you could do but if you did that off of my back the napkin math you don't need to take over the alley or anything like that you would be under your building envelope size off of Just The Two structures and
three spots at 15 fet by about 8T across 24t total call it um well we you have 900 sare feet in the front yard from the 15 by 60 and then so six 40% of that is 540 square feet you're allowed to cover 540 sare feet of that yeah so if you if
you take 15 time uh 15 time 24 what's that 360 oh 360 yeah so you wouldn't even need to ask for the 40% part then it would just be hey are you guys cool with the side set with us being in the side
setbacks and us being too close to the road and as a single family thing but if you're then trying to get to six spots and all of that type of stuff the problem is is even if you got the 20 foot by 60 foot part on the back added
your problem isn't the total lot coverage at that point your problem is how much space you have in the front to be able to park six cars which there's no way physically with a 60 foot wide thing that you'd be able to do with it as shallow as it is is it six cars or five
cars five no that's well that's you're talking about I believe you not if they don't find out it's well no it's usually when get to Bandon you can take the half adjacent to your property you can't take all it what is you got to make a Godfather
offer obviously if you did six on the side that's going to alleviate the 10 on the side that would allate the setback variance maybe we do that first is try to I don't know and you're going in and saying hey I only need I only need a variance for side setback on one side
front set back that's all I need well the rear too the garage on the rear well there's no guarantee first of all let's not we're not saying anything about that you're allowed to do but also my argument if I'm the homeowner my
argument is hey my my garage is only not cool with where it is because this is no longer a road no it's an alley yeah I know I'm saying once you say oh yeah this is no longer an alley now that garage is a problem but before it was like that's why that garage is there well the
interesting thing is is if the alley was vacated and it's 10t so the we setback would be fine satisfied on the garage oh because that's not the only there's a bunch of those garages that are built in the same like distance off that alley on
the back of but is the is the garage stageable because I understand that the roof is caved in and there's a tree or something inside of it I mean because the second you start taking the walls down then it's got to come up to compliance you know so you know it's I just was wondering is it even like salvageable
that you know as part of the you know renovation of this is it worth keeping it or not and that's a a question is it is it Bey so far beyond repair that it's not adding that to your list
so you know we we put this as a discussion item because you know we give feedback which we've done on things that we see issues with um and you know typically the applicant will go back and
correct those things and then come back to us and we review it again so um if you know we're giving you the same courtesy that we do all the applicants um and I guess at the next meeting if you come back with no changes but and
you say I want to apply for this the way it is applied for then we would move it to vote at that time um and then um either we you know we vote it up or down you know we've given you the
feedback um and then if you want to pursue an application for a variance then at that point you apply for a variance the for relief from the the the items that we discussed you know the parking 40% the the single family versus
duplex the lot coverage uh total lot coverage including all all um development on the property setbacks and then that 40% rule is the parking can't exceed 40% of the the front right the front um the front set
the front setback basically so from the from the property line to the house property line to property line the prop parking cannot be more than 40% I see of the got it got it appes the Swale as well 40% of your front yard cannot
exceed and it canot exceed 40% of the Swale got it and you know if you apply for a single family it's three parking spaces and if you apply for a duplex five parking spes um well it's three plus one so it's four technically but
and then the other one would be 4+ one it's 5 cu the guest spot you know we yeah there is some precedent where the guests we you can park behind the Cars on the and this the guest you know it's really
the four and the three that we really um stand stand for um so it's up to you I mean we've got giving you feedback do you have any questions more else no well thank you appreciate the time I'll speak to the owner and figure out next steps so we
can either come back as a revised discussion item or come back and we vote on it my suggest yeah my suggestion would be another discussion before voting if we could do that I don't know next month or okay so when it comes back it would
become back as second preliminary review we can discuss it again before voting on it great the opportunity to answer any questions that might have okay thank you thank you thank you sir all right back up to the top of the agenda we have the minutes from February
3rd 2025 meeting you guys I was gonna have you just review them by the way since he's in the bathroom now I want to let you know Edward did an absolutely awful job in your stad I was sad I wrote about it in my diary
afterwards I was like next I was like we have to get executive protection for Gage we could not have anything happen I hope that those walls aren't th he can hear hard the
I can do a motion okay motion uh second sorry I was read David all in favor to say hi I motion carries we'll just wait for Ed to come out you can say hi um we'll go to the next agend item which will be 5B 971
Northeast 111 GL pool fence okay this change ah damn it did you um let me know if you vote Yes on the we said yeah we voted already Yes
okay minutes pass four 41 4 Zer so next now we're at 5B 971 Northeast 10 11 Street last pool this is the fence that goes out into the side front yard randomly or this is a different this is this that one so let me see if they've re
they for those out to 3 feet n w well now they're asking it's not actually a glass anymore it's it's metal it's metal pickets new aluminum pool fence so it's an aluminum pool fence not
glass anymore 23 fo9 and they're putting it out on the side and it is do we have a surve survey 23t back new aluminum pool fence it's on page number 54 or 55
s-1 this is just for the fence this is not that deck which I don't know yeah and pergola it says that's S2 S3 and four which are not included in this we're only vo different application it's like the thing again that's guess it's this is the new popular fence that's gonna be
coming down the the pike what all those damn young kids are doing motion to approve David Ed all say I I motion carries next would be um 5c 971
Northeast 11th Street here's the pergola okay so the next one's the pergola okay I have five 7 fo 7 foot6 High 15 by 11 and it's 10 feet from
the rear setb right up against the house on the corner behind the new fence again S1 the rest of it all like product approval I'll take a motion when every anybody's ready David say
hi carries all right next be even though it's a physical structure have reset back structal engineering we don't consider an accessory stru someone could have a Pur like it is technically it's an accessory structure so could this
person not then build restructure somewhere else maybe not them but else I mean if they came back in and and applied for no if they came in and applied for like an accessory building in the back we would be like well you
already have one that's what I'm asking Pera open pergola we would then deny someone an actual structure somewhere else in there y why would you call this just curious why would you call this that has no sides or anything like that and that the top is able to have go
through it why is it considered a structure versus let's say a fence well it's got a roof on it it's got four posts and a roof but it doesn't unless the louers are closed oh it's got a roof I mean it's got a it's got a it's a lers are open then it's the same as a fence
sideways a structure it's not the main house it's it's so it's got to be an accessory structure if it's not an accessory structure then it's not allowed at all in our code period don't allow code we don't allow structures unless they fall under those two categories or they're a carport I mean I think
the other place that we we yeah no no no I I was just like curious as to the difference if there's a difference a definition between what this pergola is versus like the fence definition of like okay it's six fence posts stuck in the ground and
then if that was if that was the definition then it could only be six foot six foot high yeah I mean I guess what I'm saying is is like let's say that this top didn't open right then I would definitely be like yeah that's an that's a structure because a hurricane could rip this thing out and throw it
into a neighbor's thing but if all of this can open and it's the same as a fence on the side where the wind can go through is that necessarily the same thing I don't care because it's not a problem in front of us I'm just asking question I would get out the dictionary and look up the definition of offense
and see if that actually would and then I would look up additional additional what building meet the uh the the code of a and actually we don't need to do this we've been here
for a long a definition of a fence is a constructed barrier erected to enclose screen or separate an area aha that doesn't mean access it tell us what it says for pergola can't tell me that it doesn't
say that I've seen lots of fences use a building or structure the use of which is incidental to the main building or structure and is located on the same lot the use of which is manifestly incidental to that of the main building fact that it says a
building or structure just said a building that's not building or structure and our code only allows one per property Edwards C I'm taking board time for personal reason wanted to build yeah
that's why I was sitting there I was like Edward is shopping for himself that's the s I started no the Perla is two feet from my house so I would just make a physical attachment say it's part of the house now it's not an accessories room that's came to that curious if our code maybe
it's two accessor it actually so it actually what it says is that it cannot be more than the area between the rear the line of the house main building and the rear property line does not actually say just one structure just says there's a
maximum of 30% so you could build Stonehenge and just well we're here a shed is not included in that shed has a whole other thing all right sorry let's move on Scarlet you want to join in all right so 5D 10009 Northeast 16th
Street metal re roof is this the one that didn't have that someone came before they didn't have the little diagram so it says 24 inch overhang colors charcoal 8
inch fascia 123 but is it all the way around if you look at the diagram it looks like those are gables on the end I can I'll look it up on the one9 one was missing roof color
overhangs FASA have the color or the over I'm looking at it on the interwebs so yeah unfortunately the two ends of the house now this pictures slightly old but
I don't think they can change it but the two ends of the House have have basically like a zero zero Edge yeah so this 24 inch overhang does not go all the way around that perimeter of that house
um it exists for the duration of the front and honestly they they might have changed it but that fascia being 8 in I think is true of the closest area but that deeper area that is looks like 8 in
to me that looks like 4 in that where did they get 24 in on well the I think the depth is 24 but the vertical height of the faas so the sopit length is 24 over on the right hand side above that window that bedroom window whatever it is that does not look like that is 18 in
overhang no I don't mean 18 in like so the overhang part we don't know they're they're stating that it's a 24 in overh I I understand but the fascia part that's the 8 inch vertical that is coming off of this but this I do not believe is 8 in well they're stting no
they're stating that it's okay well yes what you're saying what I'm saying is they stating that this is a 24 in overhang around the perimeter of this house and what I'm saying is is from the very front we I that 24 part I can't see because I'm not looking underneath it but I could tell you that it's not eight
on that part and it has the or 24 well and it has the issues at the edge and the end Gable over too h no motions second or I mean how do we
handle this I'd like to have them presented to us says this 24 we're just basing on looking On Tools right so I would like for them to come in and talk to us about this because I don't see how they're stating it's 24 in and from Google Street View in the front it
is clearly not well so what I or the other thing that we could say because I don't know we want photographs stuff I want to have photographs of all four all four sides tape with tape measures showing that
it's 24 in or or I was going to say motion an i pending solution for gabled edges of roof there's no overhang yeah right now don't hang face value their applications because they have4 so we're just asking for
they won't beide so we're I mean us looking at Google Street View is not really so motion to table pending photographic documentation of the overs second David all in favor to say I so
that's table understand one okay 5e 111001 Northeast 9th Avenue metal roof another metal Ro way some of the the metal roofs that we've been approving they look really nice around the village I me there's
been some really five I do wonder the rash of variance request that led to the fact that one rule is no variant Roots yeah what was the reason that decided that was the only part the enti the
because we realize that there are Commissioners that are that are easily swayed by bleeding hearts and people bringing children and putting them up on the podium and we the board at the time wrote it in a way that we
said it can't be on the whim of this is such an important thing for our village and the commission approved it we put it on there and they actually they they went away and they approved it so um CU you know talk
swaying in the wind basically okay so this one they say is a 1 foot 12 in 8 inch wide ASA David can you look at the Google Earth yeah we're on 5 you're on 5e
110001 Northeast 9th Avenue say so again this is that 312 thing that the code says above three so I'm curious what is this house there they actually have pictures
of it pictures of something no I mean it has edges all around all sides and they all look the same dimensionality and they the fascia width is the same the overhang looks like it's
the same dimensionality at least across the front and the right and the left side which you can see I think this would look good with a metal color is there color third p i mean there's it's a it's a
gabled or a hipped roof all the way around um they provide they actually have photographs of the overhangs I think this would be would look good with a metal roof and they satisfy our code
now keep in mind the three and above language and this says three I thought that that got tightened up some point motion to approve baby say hi iose okay motion carries all right 5f 11095 Griffin
Boulevard pool remodel is this oh no this is just tabled a lot of stuff you weren't here this is this one like the lock coverage information wasn't provided and possible
to extrapolate wasn't this the guy that was just here Ian off he didn't he had this on the agenda too this is the the guy 6G is Stan Stan slov Ivanov yeah that's not this this is this
is alterate this is the variance for the driveway gate yeah but this is this is a new owner yeah but if you look at the permit application the owner is Stan slav Ivanov on the permit application it's LLC I think you're oh am I on the wrong
oh I'm on I'm sorry I'm on the wrong one sorry my bad you can reuse that tin hat later 5f oh yeah there was no um uh no lot coverage and so we would have been okay with it except you see
that little area where they said new deck area if they hadn't added that then we would have been fine with it but they're adding a little bit of deck area cuz they're they have a 41,000 sare foot lot yes it was very clear that they were going to be
under but they didn't do lot coverage so but it's an existing pool they're not making it any bigger are they no but if you notice just below that where it it has the old Edge and it says existing P deck new deck area so because they were adding that little
that little piece of juice on then it was like oh man now we need the lock coverage and the lock coverage we didn't have we were playing it by the book didn't want G oh so oh so this that's the reason why you tabled the
last time yeah because now did they correct that yeah they have the lot coverage and they're at 18.51% well they're re they're fixing the pool the pool is so motion to motion to approve it still kills me they have such a huge
backyard that they gave that guy the variant one of his things was his kids needed some place to play and he's got all that backyard right and then he S I have a motion who is it David and Ed or is it Ed and David David and then the good news is he'll never buy another
property in BO par say I I motion carries all right next 6A 733 Northeast 118 Street impact windows and doors is actually the two
say there's no door there oh okay I see Lord room is facing this front one two three all horizontal yeah they're all horizontal roll we know color that's white down onage
oh white yeah I get a motion motion to approve Ed say I I carries next on the agenda is going to be
970 Northeast 117 Street roof is it a flat roof shouldn't do David Ed Alber I I I was wondering why that that Top Line didn't have any lines with the direction next 6D 1075
Northeast 12th Street exterior paint front door walls are kind of white okay wall color yeah white it's the white 6150 Pure White
Pro Ed David all fav say hi I next 6f 10920 Northeast 10th Avenue onete driveway oh oh David okay I can't hear about it can't hear about
it okay thank you David has recused himself and he's left the room all right so um lot coverage 38.6 in the front and 26.7 on the sweat
concrete looks like yes and he's going in from the Middle with a little turn to the right thing 18 foot wide all the parking is on the front put two three three four cars in there if you wanted
to pretty standard Center entryway any question to approve Scarlet Ed on pap I I was approv all right all right I think that's the agenda I believe everything everything
else was discussion we did we did the minutes and we did every else correct all right our next meeting will be March 10th every already good with that the first first
Monday the fact that it'll be one week and two weeks so we and that way we're gonna have March 10th and March 24th so that's because March has one two three four five Mondays in it so we did it because of that so everybody good
with that I got a motion to adjourn at 828k Edward when you were in the bathroom I was telling everyone have a great you did