It's all of the pitched roofs. Are you the roofer? Okay. And just as it's downloading, what's the color? Is that it? Okay. Is it Is it Is it's in It's in the packet. Okay. We're just
Okay, that's This is victory right here. Um, do you have because it's taking a little while to load. Uh, do you have the the the color right there? Can I just see it real quick? It's just okay. It's like a multiolor
blend. If you could just show everybody. Can we just get a motion, please? >> Second. >> Okay. Uh David Scarlet on And by the way, um Edward Lea join the meeting. I have a motion, a second. All in favor say I. I. >> I.
>> Motion carries. Okay. Thank you. You're good. You're welcome. Thank you. >> Monday. >> That's it. Thank you. Thanks for everything. And he said he emailed you the color that he just showed us. So it
just has to be attached to the pack to the to the >> you don't have it I will think again the portal >> if not can you just upload it to the portal I mean is that the way it's supposed to work is instead of >> upload that to the portal or email
>> well you have to because I tried to run the portal >> okay it's closed oh no just email it to me now >> thank you >> thank you >> all right so we had an add-on uh number M ed 11929 Northeast 6th Avenue if it's
for windows um he got an email saying that he was on the agenda uh but just so back up okay so where's the window going okay is that in the back of the house >> that faces the backyard and what is the
color of the window >> which are what is what bronze okay and what type of window is A fix went. Okay. All right. So, it all faces the back. It's I have it. David. Yep. >> A second.
>> Scarlet. All in favor say I. I. Okay. So, do you have this? >> You're good. We just approved you, sir. >> Or one window. It's in the rear of the house. This is the one that he said he 929
Northeast 6. Right. You're good. Thank you. Thanks for bringing that information. Okay. So, we do have a um discussion item C 951 Northeast 16th Street, new construction for you. So, I'm going to have you just come right
here, ma'am, with the plan. So like the render sheet of the cover >> I mean you do have some dimension >> here so Yeah, lots in an area with lot
>> 951 Northeast 116th Street. >> Okay. So, you're taking down the existing house? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um >> I have the setbacks here. Front is 30 ft. It's 30, right? >> 30 ft. Yes. So, you have Can I write on this? >> Yes, of course.
>> Okay. So, you're good there. You have your 10 foot side 10. You have you're providing 12 over there. Okay. >> Well, actually it's it's it's actually just 10 10 in the back. >> Okay. >> Um so it's 10 10 10 but the pool but the
pool is a 10 foot. It's an accessory structure >> to the water line. >> So it'll be a separate permit but it would be good to put it on here because it counts toward your jour. It counts towards your lot coverage. >> Okay. So, I don't have the solid meeting again. >> Yeah. Well, I wouldn't want to like have
you put in all of this and then turns out you don't have enough lot coverage left over to put the pool in. So, it's better to try and calculate your driveway, any walkways, any AC pads, any generator pads, >> any basically anything that
basically anything that touches >> Can I use your >> Yeah. Anything that touches the ground is considered part of the law coverage. >> Okay. >> But I'm going to double check this. So 10. Yes. >> And do you know if this is inside this
34? >> Okay. >> I know this is inside and I know I think the pool is also and this part >> because one thing that is helpful for us to see on on it is the breakdown. So it
says pool, building, driveways, other covered areas, AC or equipment pads. Each of the line items to then have it because it I assume it probably will be a little bit bigger than 345. It's just the rough mass it
>> let me if it's 55. If it's 5 by >> 8 the lower part I think is 100 and then >> yeah it looks like a but so basically if
I take 55 >> and then I take off those pieces off of a 75 then it's 55 by 53 so I know that this part is missing right so it would be oops it would be a number >> less than 2915 right just because of
that >> that carve out but And I think when you add, you see how this says 2980. >> I think that this space because it's 20 feet by at least 30 feet, right? Because and then it gets wider.
>> So that's another 600. So let's say that the >> the house is is 21. So that's why I'm saying if you have the breakdown, I think that that's there and I don't think that that's included in this. So I think you're going to be closer to 50. >> Okay.
>> But you understand the 50% that it's 50% everything. Okay. >> Driveway. I mean, it's it has to be of the same material, the approach and the driveway. So, if this is concrete, that's concrete. It's a different style, but it's I think that's
>> Yeah, we're going to do everything the same. >> Okay. >> What else? >> Is there a tree? Is are any trees coming down or anything? That's >> nothing. >> Yeah, it's a pretty empty lot >> here. Nope. >> Okay.
>> But we are not Keep it up. >> Only this one. This is the >> only >> you have the floor plan the first and second floor plan. Let's start with that. So we know that this is at 10 ft and this is at 12 was it? >> Yeah. >> 12
>> 12 feet. Okay. So first floor I don't think there's any that's So, this is where we have a little you're going to have to do some working on this. All right. So, our code says that on the second floor you can have 30
feet at the 10-ft setback. Okay. Anything above the 30t has to be at 15 ft back. >> So, it has to be 30 from the setback or 30 from the tent. >> 30. You only have 30 feet of building at 10 foot back. So you would basically
have 54 foot8. >> Oh, >> so 24 foot8 of this elevation has to step back five more. >> Okay. All this part or just 30 >> you want to to reduce the total. >> I'm only talking about the side building
at 10 foot cannot exceed 30 ft. It can be 30 foot then step back. You can undulate it. You can do it break it up however you want. >> And it can be broken up. You could do 15 in the front, 15 in the back, and step like, you know, the bathroom's back or something. But basically, you have 30
feet from here to here to work with at 10 feet. Then everything else has to be stepped back to 15 from the property. Five more feet. >> So, it has to be this and five from here. >> Well, well, not the front. The front's you're at 30. You're okay. And then the
back you're okay. >> Like the length up to 30. >> Yeah. At at the 10 foot setback. So this is right now you're at 10 foot set back from the side property. Okay. So you can only have 30 feet of wall at the 10 foot set back. Once you have more than 30 feet, the rest of it has to set back
another five. Right? So you can have this be 30 and this be 24 or you can have it this.
As long as this and this and this add up to 30. >> Well, at the 10 foot setback, you can't have 30 feet of wall. >> And this one has to be >> another >> or both. >> Yeah. So then and so the other side, so
right now you're at 12. >> Yeah. >> So you have the same thing. You have 30 feet that have to be um that can be at 12 and then >> theory at 10. Yeah. But then anything above 30 has to come back to 15 plus
five. >> Okay. So that side only has to go back three. >> Exactly. So you need you need to set back 15 foot 2 in of this wall. Three more to 15 instead of 12. You also don't need 12 on that side.
Push out to 10. The purpose is just to avoid having solid wall >> break that up. >> Okay. Okay. >> And then so some people, you know, push
the rest, you know, the bathrooms in or however. >> Yeah. Yeah, that that increase the cost of the >> Sure. And then if you don't stay out >> Yeah. I think
>> maybe it's easier to move, you know, here. This is only a second floor. >> I'm I'm just thinking about structurally, how does it work? Because you have, you know, like your main wall here that supports everything. But if
you move everything then >> Yeah. I agree. It's something you and your design team figure out. But if you were to jut this in right now, you have an exterior wall that's like this. So on the first floor, you have to. >> That's why some people Whatever they're doing on the second
floor, they do on the first floor. >> Yes. What is the cheapest option? >> It kind of creates an opportunity to have some windows. Since we're also there on the second floor, um all portions of the side of
the building on the second floor within the rear 2/3 2/3 um shall be designed in such a manner as diminish visibility property. So, so this window and possibly this window as it's 23
have to be up high or they have to be done in a way that and then this window here has to be done um to to to diminish visibility into your neighbor. So, obviously we're trying to provide privacy to the
neighbors. So, keep that in mind. use this one. I can I just I can take out this one because this is like the stairs and whatever. >> Oh, like a frost. >> Okay. Oh, I can do frosted. Yeah, because I'm concerned about this one
because essentially sometimes with Yeah, >> absolutely. >> Yeah. >> If you just want to write down 10.3 It basically spells out what we're talking about. >> Okay. How can I find that?
>> It's under code park. It should come up and it's in our land. >> The what? Sorry, >> the land development. Now we can look at the elevation. side elevation. The problem render
it. Well, this part is okay to be >> this part that it's >> let me just go over a couple other things. Um, There shall be no houses constructed a single level. So um there must be at least two or more
roof levels at least one minimum clearance. So that one level all level elevation that you have. I would maybe suggest reducing down the part that comes out forward or something. But you need to provide two
different roof levels because right now you basically have a flat top roof that goes all the way across at >> some like eyebrow. >> But it looks as if you have some degree of parapet. Correct. So if there's a way even that you just remove a portion of
the parapit, you could probably create at least a foot elevation change. >> Yes. So even here uh I can have something you know I can this is so maybe I can >> do you want to write down the section that
>> it's I mean all of this is in 10.3 which is our architectural design section of our code. >> Okay. So yeah, it just you need to it's pretty clear no single level black
is flat top. >> So we're just trying to avoid boxes, you know, boxes. >> Um the next thing on the elevation would be um wall planes shall be designed in such a manner to provide movement and articulation to prevent extensive blank
walls. Which looks like You have >> you have some blank walls. You have some blank walls here. >> So, you know, we would look >> I think that's >> side is blank but also we need to figure out >> Yeah.
>> like run your eyebrow across run this eyebrow you know just >> okay >> articulation and also yes like said when you go back five feet it's going to provide some of that Okay.
>> This is one of the reasons we like >> we're giving you feedback and then you're making notes and come back with something better. base. So you have to indicate somewhere
you've got like some indications but I don't know what are starting at zero right so somewhere here you have show >> that and then show the measurement of the total height from It should be on your I would imagine on
your survey somewhere. >> I don't know. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then we do require a tree survey, but you have no trees >> on on your first one. So I don't know if
you need to have a specific >> in the new survey because I did a recent survey that I have about to expire. So, I did a new one and I think the new one show >> what we're going to do is we're gonna put this off to
second review which just like this review. >> Um so, whenever you're ready, you'll just put it on the agenda as a second point that we're looking and everything. >> Okay. Yeah, I'm going to print the renders. I'm going to bring uh like the
surv I'm going to show everything here in the plan also like except >> definitely don't go any further with your drawings. >> A lot of people will be like >> no my architect was pushing but I know how you know how sonic meetings work and
I said hold on and let's wait to see what happens. spend a lot of money. >> Yeah, exactly. So, we're done. >> Yes. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. >> Have a good day.
>> Uh do I need to send a grading plans and for this meeting or not? No, >> your building permit review. This is yours, right? >> All right. So, we have uh Commissioner Tutor here. Hello, sir. How are you?
>> I know it's been a while. I'll see you at the meetings. Uh um Jay, that's um 11400 Northeast 8th Avenue for driveway. Didn't we already approve that one before? This is an existing gravel that you have
there. No new gravel or anything like that. Um, it's J >> J. >> And the borders are going to be concrete. >> So, he's adding borders to an existing already approved driveway.
>> Okay. It's David. All in favor say I. I. Hi. Carries. You're all good. Thank you. Try you later. Nice seeing you. All right. We approved um old business D. That was
that variance for the pool D. So they came back in, they applied. Now the variance is going to be for 10 foot setback from the side front property line. So, we recommended approving the variance request, the three of us.
It was old business D. Yeah, I think the last meeting the gentleman came in with the actual owner. Um, we recommend approve. Um, B, uh, was a tile roof. We approved that. >> Yeah, boy. You were here for that one,
actually. And then everything else, we we you were here. All right. So, um just to start back up at the top. So, the commission approved um the synthetic
turf ordinance uh with our changes. So, you know, advoc advocacy helped pays off, you know. So, they we um you know, they took our recommendations for it. Now, it's all residences in the
park. Um um they they have to provide a tree survey, a landscape surve a regular survey. Um what else? What other changes did we
recommend? Um can't be in the rightway right or the swale. And then also they added other vegetation because we only they only had trees before. So now
it says it's it's more in line with the the state um uh memo which says other vegetation. So that means has to has to be around all the other leg vegetation. It can't just be, you know, around just trees. Uh it kind of defined what the
the drip line is. Huh. No, that's not what you have. Sorry, I'm this. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just reading the ordinance that was >> Yes. Sorry, that's not what we talked about. Um,
and then also it can't be within 12 inches of any other flower beds, gardens, things like that. So now there's a set that was something that we added. And then there was also they added um they added it to
um the lot coverage. So there's a 50% maximum lot coverage including synthetic turf. So it's not exclusive of our lot coverage. It's actually inclusive of it now. So So basically they can't pave over the entire yard with synthetic
turf. So, so that was approved by the commission at the last meeting. So, that's a good thing. So, um the other stuff we'll we'll come to when let's just go through the agenda and we'll come to it. Uh did we have minutes from the last meeting?
Did we look at is it in the drop? Everybody we have the minutes from our meeting of May 4th, 2026. going on over to the ambulance now. It's less than ideal. Take a motion whenever you are ready.
>> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Charlotte David. All in favor say I. I carries. Okay. Next will be uh old business A uh 511 Northeast 119th Street for offense. Old business a
yeah this is the corner. So they're setting the fence back three feet from the property line is going to be columns and the gates. I I don't know what that is. It's not we we when the fence lady was here last
time, she didn't even know about it. So, um, that's up to code to be dealing with that. >> I was asking, >> it's interesting because the permit application says driveway. just it's a fence and I'm not even
really sure what what is the material what see concrete post does there is product approval for horizontal planks boards And it's a maximum of four feet high.
It's three feet back. I see four feet high. They're doing a little um walking gate in the front is also set back. Okay. They came within the code. that rolling gate they have. We're okay
with that. >> Yeah, because it's on the side. It's It's not technically in front of the house. It's on the side front. It's part of the a roll. A gate is basically a fence. So, you're allowed to put a fence over on the side like that.
>> Okay. There's so there are certain houses that do have gates on driveways of the location. Was Ed >> second >> David say I >> Yeah, I was just because that was the only driveway. I was
>> Yeah, it's a side front so it falls within that. Somebody's on a corner. Is that why somebody >> is that why those I guess developer guys that had that triangle big lot why we were okay with
their gate being on the side but not on >> well they put up those gates illegally and got a variance for one of them >> yeah but the >> reason that we were okay with the variance because it wasn't that wasn't their primary budget >> no I think we we
>> we as a board we are opposed to it we were opposed to it and the commission and heard the, you know, believe their story and then they turn us like the next month. Um, >> all right. Old business B. Same address,
511 Northeast 119th Street. This is for a roof. This is the one that had like conflicting um materials. Barcelona roof tile, but still says flat roof. Well, the
house has two. It has a I think that addition that's closest to fifth is actually got a hip roof on it. And then and then the the original house is like a mission with the the paradise and all that. So, it's got two different roofs going on. Motion to approve.
David Ed all in favor say I. I. >> Hello. Good. Come on in. >> Are you on the agenda tonight? >> What's the name? >> Juan Perez. >> 420.A. Okay. We will go ahead and take
you right now. >> No problem. All right. So, that is That's all right. So, we'll go to new business K 11420 Northeast 8th Avenue. Uh, this is for an addition was in here last time. It's just a
little closet, right? Remember correctly. All right. So um what the it's this is like a little mission house, right? What is the material of the new addition? Okay. Okay.
Okay. So it's on the side. I guess our next thing would be what is your um there's no setback issues. What is the lot coverage is to make sure that you're We didn't have I just don't see any lot dimensionation.
And it looks like a pretty sizable lot. >> Yeah. >> But I guess one thing is is it doesn't look like it's altering what the actual coverage is. If I look at the bottom page, which I assume is the existing survey, right? Is there something there
already like a pad or something? Sorry, Ed. Sorry, David. Is it grass right now? There's like tile stone. >> Oh, I I I understand what's happening. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes it makes more sense.
>> No, but it was that small AC thing that I saw there. It's a different size. So, I mean, he's adding at most he's adding two feet by four feet. >> So, he can we just have to have that
form uploaded. There's a there's an actual form that has like the calculations on it and it cannot be more than 50%, which I don't think you're anywhere near more than 50%. So um >> so motion to approve pending the upload
of black coverage for >> Is that okay? You understand? >> Yes. >> Yeah. It's just >> I was looking at you because he was looking at at you. I was like, "Oh, we if you haven't noticed, generally speaking, we just look at Gage's eyebrows and what they do is how we vote." Well, he was here two weeks ago
and I just don't want to like postpone something for just a lot coverage, you know. >> Yep. Okay. All in favor say I. I. Well, it's just that we we're getting push back from the village about the about approving things pending and so we're
kind of caught in this like qu and and And I I mentioned it to you the last time you were here, but I just really want to stress that the garage, whatever it is there, I mean, it's not a separate structure. It's not a separate residence. It's not a it's a it's a it's
a wreck room or a guest house that has no kitchen or actually you're not even supposed to you're not supposed not even a guest house. You're not supposed to sleep in it. Okay. So, I know this house is probably built in 1920 or something like that or 25. Um so, um just
Because right now you have it on this plan as like a separate residence which is not okay. It's a it's a it's a an office or a gym or something like that. Okay. Okay. So it's not a residence.
It's not a residence because this >> Yes. Don't call it a residence because it's going to draw attention to it and it's gonna >> not even guest house just >> like not living in it. >> It's your garage thing. That's >> No, mine was mine was the garage because
I had office >> office. Yeah, >> but we know where you live is what we're saying. These are nice technical drawings. Yeah. >> Yeah. I just is nice technical drawings and we just want to make sure that in in
that there's nothing planned in the future for it or anything like that that it's it's a it's a office. So, okay. >> All right. Thank you. All right. So, that we approve that. Good night. >> Okay.
>> Can I ask you guys what's the on. >> Okay. >> Um, >> okay. So, let me just get back here. I'll just show it to you. Okay. So, hey, first of all, you have a really
nice wall. So, I mean, you you actually I think you have a really beautiful >> very well done wall there. >> What do I possibly >> Okay. So, let me give you this. I'll give you a little lesson. All right. So you're you're on a corner lot. So you
have two fronts. You have a front front which is this is the front of your house. Okay. This is your side front. Okay. The way our code is written is right now you can have a f you can have a fence at um the minimum is three feet to the side setback or side property line. So So here's your property line.
So right now you can have a fence at four feet high three feet in from your property line. Okay. If you want to have it higher, then at five feet it becomes five feet from the property line. So five feet in. And then if you even want it higher, you can go up to six feet,
but it's got to be seven feet in. So you have three feet, five feet, seven feet setbacks on your on your side. So the point is is that here's the corner. So you run out here and all this you're able to fence in
with those stipulations I just told you about. Okay? With that being said though, chain link, >> but it wouldn't couldn't be chain link. Yeah. >> Okay. >> It would have to be metal pickets. >> Yeah. Kind of like I think you have pickets now, I think. Aren't they kind
of like pickets on a wall or something? >> Okay. >> Yeah. There's no chain link. So there would be So this this all this area that faces the street, no chain link fence. So, if you want to do like a wood picket or >> something.
>> All right. Um, old business C 11619 Northeast 6th Avenue. This is for the pool. The variance that that has been before us before. >> We already did this. >> No, this is the other variance for a pool. This is the gentleman um
>> him and I had some uh we're good friends. >> Yeah, the vinegar. Okay. >> So, u but he provided the he provided the necessary dimension line you're looking for and again he does have a variance in place with the
village for this and I looked at it. >> Okay. So, they >> separate >> is that okay? I know I read I I saw it somewhere. Hold on. Oh, here it is. Pool. Okay. So, yeah, Victory sent it on Friday.
So, it's the survey and he's showing the pool is going to be I don't have it downloaded, so it's really hard for me to see. 14 ft. Ed, can you download it?
>> Yeah. 14. So he's prov he provided the dimension that we needed from the side property line and 14. Motion to approve. >> Second. >> David Scarlet. All in favor say I.
>> Now this is the variance that that the commission approved like two or three months ago. This is the gentleman that came in. He was here maybe three or bunch of times over three or four years for this pool the commission
group varian request. I don't know if you remember he's the guy I had a very discuss >> exactly the way it is right now where it's on that the thing was is that the drawing that they submitted last time did not have that actual 14 ft. So we
were like approving something that we weren't really clear on how far from the side property line was supposed to be. All right, that was approved. Correct. All right,
new business A. 519 Northeast 118th Street. This is for demolition structure fence 519. Or these that super super house.
>> Is this the one that's right off of Griffin? >> It's the like really I think it's the one that the really small That's like right one block in from Griffin, right? >> Yeah. It's like the dude living in his car.
>> Yeah, that guy. Yeah. I mean, >> don't we have the legal obligation to approve it? And then they don't have >> this going to get compiance. Well, they're just not going to approve the the We can approve it, but then they're going to turn around and say, "Okay,
well, do you have your fence permit?" And they're say, "No." Then they're going to be back next week with the fence. >> Oh, there is. >> Okay. So, all right. David, say hi. Hi. Curious. I mean, this is the lot that's
I wish they would come in and work with us because this is got some serious issues with setback. >> Yeah. I think that we saw one group of plans at one point to talk to us about it >> you like ran
>> because they have a 50 foot front setback which is makes this lot very hard to build on and be profitable. So all right um motion was carried. Um next will be building C uh 728 Northeast
115th Street roof Looks like it's just flat. It's a flat roof. >> David. >> Yeah, it is flat. I'm looking at it. All in favor say I. I. very dangerous thing for both of you guys to do.
>> Um, I got my eyebrows up. New business D. Um 840 Northeast 116th Street >> Temporary 840 Northeast 116. Is there a demo? What is the fence for? Temporary fence around the front.
Um, it was David and Ed said he could leave. >> Yeah, I know. Thank you. So, is there a demo permit on this record or 840 Northeast 16th Street?
They're all different sizes and materials are damaged. The thing is >> I'm sorry >> there's a bunch of different fences like it's a hodge podge between like three
and a half ft chain link 6 foot wood um 4 foot chain link damaged temporary six foot chain link >> so I would suggest we we deny it a a
because they don't have a demo permit um or or just They're applying for a fence in the front yard without any application on what their intents of doing. And then also the fence needs to go around the entire perimeter of the property at six foot high, whatever. So
they I mean we can tie it into existing fences, but we need to know what that is. >> They have a lot of notes on the fences, but but they're all different. It goes from six foot wood, three and a half foot chain length right next to it. um back six foot wood in the back. Bend it
down to 4 foot chain link. >> It says damaged >> damaged >> wood fence. >> And then there's a temporary fence >> 3.5 chain link fence damaged. Yeah, it needs to be around the entire perimeter.
So >> Scarlet say I I And then also the fencing system. Um, building E one 107 Northeast 115th Street Mueller like a musician
like he should have like Okay. W and D. What is W? Oh, windows and doors. >> Why is the first document look like a shed or something? A windload chart.
We're looking at 18 19 five and six. What about two and four? It looks like they really Yeah. I was wondering is this is this the guy that did the driveway this next
motion to approve >> David. Scarlet say I I >> for the record, >> uh, building F108 Northeast 16th Street for a revision to a permit, I guess.
Windows. They added window number E. It's like maybe for egress or something like that. >> I think they added a bedroom foundation detail. Yeah, I think they added like a bedroom floor and bathroom. Well, so in that
case, I already down, but they don't have an updated um lot coverage. So have the motion to deny because I think we need a >> survey with it and therefore coverage.
motion. Well, they added that additional bedroom there. Just we don't have an updated lot cover. All clouded. We had the footprint that I'm okay with it as long as that footprint was
already. Yeah, it looks like >> or some kind of >> Yeah, they they decided it was a Okay. Well, then in that case then then motion to approve. >> Second. >> David Scarlet say I I
>> All right. Next would be building G. New business G. Um 10801 Northeast 8 Court. Another W and D. Okay. >> Yeah, it looks like it's just the door.
That's the first thing that's highlighted in red. >> Yeah, it says Yeah. >> Yeah. >> French door, front door, >> entry door. Motion to approve. The bottom says replacement. >> David Ed. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Next would be building new
business H uh 10840 Griffin Boulevard for a pool bel. Well, it's it's not a pool. It's just new steps and bench addition to existing only an $8,500
spend. So I think they're just adding Yeah. to the west the west side and motion to approve. Second. Okay. Um, uh, David Scarlet. All in
favor say I. I carries. Next would be, uh, new business. I, 11102, Northeast 9th Court. More windows and doors. This doesn't have both windows and
doors. I'm going to beond. Why did 58. >> I think it's the door that opens to the living room. Uh, this house is kind of interesting. The front is inside the bumpout. So, the
end that doesn't have any windows. The the end that's to the bottom of the page is the end facing the street. >> Yeah. Yeah, I see. >> But it's has two I meant doesn't have. >> But it's got horizontal rollers. Horizontal rollers. Casements.
>> Why are you picking on Motion. >> Motion to approve. David. All in favor say I. Next would be new business L12010 Northeast 11th place for demolition.
They have a fence thing. Motion to approve our house. 1210 norththeast trees. We're going to approve the demolition, but that we need to get
before we issue the the U. I have a motion from David. Uh Ed, all in favor say I. I Okay. All right. Next would be um our discussion items. So um I passed out um
the memo that I typed up um based on our conversation. >> This house is already behind. one that we just de or the I just >> there's already a fence permit in the >> Well, there's already a fence existing
on Google on Google construction. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So then probably already approved and that's like out of our hand. >> Hopefully we've already we did approve it. Um
so this was based on our meetings of March 30th. Yeah, and we had a few little discussive discussions about it. Uh, so changes to the rightway parking would be
um combination approved parking surface including approach. So we want to make sure people understand that it's surface and approach. It's all considered the within the 40% We took out the word impervious. Now we're saying parking surface, which is
how it's defined in the code as a parking surface. So which means gravel, concrete, asphalt, paper, all that kind of stuff. And it can't be more than 40%. And it's clarifying also the fact that
there's now there's people that are arguing that they're saying that they have driveways but they don't have an approach and they don't feel they have to put an approach in. This actually now clarifies that you must have an approach to your driveway.
I feel like you're missing which is that only that only one vehicle needed to be a lot. You read F just in it by itself. I thought that what we said is that if it
had a a rightway 20 ft or greater that it only had to be you only had to go 15t the property versus get all of the vehicles like we >> I thought we when we talked about it
last time it was the back bumper of the car can be at 20 ft. So if somebody has a 30 foot rideaway the back bumper can be at 20 ft. So >> yeah, >> I Yeah. So I I agree with what you just
said, but as far as reading it, permanent parking may be permitted on approved parking service in the right of way provided the right of way is 20T feet or greater. So it's eliminating this. What I was trying to say was that anybody that has less than 20 feet, this
does not apply to them. This is only for people that have 20 feet and above. You can now have your parking in the rightway because this is the rideway section of the of the code, not the >> Yeah, but but >> Okay. But >> I'm open to interpretation.
>> Oh, I'm I guess what I'm saying is is if I read this, I could and let's say that I had a 25 foot driveway. If I just read F, I could say, okay, yeah, I don't need to provide any parking on my lot at all because I can
provide permanent parking and permitted on approved parking services right away provided the right way. Okay, >> so that's a good point. Yeah, maybe. >> So, so what it would be is is that you have to that you have to maintain
or that that >> it has to begin at 20 ft. >> Exactly. The parking is allowed to start at 20. >> Yeah, it does kind of read that way that it actually end up parking it right up against the street. Call that your
permanent park. Okay. But yeah, I read All highlighted. Then the next part was 5.603. We're taking we're we're just taking out the guest parking lot on multif family
properties. We added bronze to the metal roof. Um we corrected that gap where it say is equal to or greater than 2 and 12 in for metal roofs. That was an issue that we had
gabled roofs. So on both pitches, if you have a gabled roof, you have to have provide a um 6 in um end for both of them.
Um, oh sorry just so I understand this letter talking about swale and all that stuff. Also the gravel
is that by something different than that or was that likely? >> Oh, so you got it. Okay. Um, yeah. So, the graveling part will be handled by this because now it says 40% max. So, gravel is a parking material. It's a it
is considered gravel is a proof parking surface. So, now we're limiting parking services to 40%. So, gravel to a surface. >> Okay. because >> but the parking on a parking on that I
didn't add it to this because I figured that was the second phase of our our suggestions but I don't want >> that's that's what I figured that I I was checking that this was >> yeah because I I can foresee when people start hearing regulating parking
rightways it's so right now we're just trying to make this as simple as possible so that we can make things Um, I wrote up this part again. I'm open to feedback. Um, regarding the gabled roofs
like seating 28 ft. I figured it was better put it under table A. Again, the commit the attorney might want to put it somewhere else. Second story gabled roofs. The highest point of the roof may see 28 divided.
midpoint of the highest point of the roof. Lowest does not like we talked about >> area two. And then we added in code saying half
inch gap so it's more clear about horizontal planks. We put in a rule saying you cannot use chain link. It's kind of climb a chain link fence, but we allow it kind of.
>> Yeah, that well this is around the perimeter of the yard. This >> is a thing you can't you if you have a pool, you really shouldn't be using chain like Yeah. So, we got one Well, we got Yeah. Yeah. We got one of those today and it
stipulated because it indicated that 500 Supreme link it stipulated because like the Florida statute also is it needs to be 42 and this is moving forward too. So if it's existing, it's existing. But but moving forward, we've been having this
issue where people are asking for fences and then ask for chain link and there's a pool and we're like, I mean, I'm open to breaking it or not, but which permit again?
Oh, he's at 28%. There's no changes to that provided this the okay and then the paint thing. Okay. So the next thing was um discussion B re review paint ordinance. So technically
we should be talking about this as the other board but since we didn't have an agenda item on this I take care of it. This is what was paint passed on first reading at the May mission meeting. Um so they want us to look at it before
they go to the second reading. Um, I personally have an issue with no application is required if the current existing color is unchanged. So, how are they going to
tell whether the old color and the new color are the same? The other >> it's like it's like taking their word for it. The other thing too is there's not a single house. everything like
I can't go ago. So to me the part that I didn't notice and I was like how the hell are we supposed to detect that is the trim color cannot exceed 30%. Who's doing that math but
It's funny that's that's in our code now and we've never once tried to like force that or figure that out or >> you know that's a sh >> Yeah. I I I agree with it. Maybe that
it's just that we have an entire pre-approved palette and most of the times we don't even see paint permits now because people just go in and pick a color and they're done. That was one of the first first parts of that whole thing. I Yeah. The only way
that I could because I see that as other thing is it's like okay so how do you prove that you don't need an application that sending a photo of file but the only thing that's going to h
happen here is that somebody's going to paint their house right and it's not going to get caught until somebody reports it and then they're going to go out and say blah blah blah and then the person say well that the color was before, you know, then they have to go through this entire process
of proving that, you know, um that it was that was the color. Who's the burden on? Is it on code enforcement or is it on the owner to prove that it was painted that color previously? And and in the meantime, we
have a house that's painted right on. It's like there's so there's so rarely that we have colors come in front of us. Why not just make it >> Yeah. Can can I ask a question? If is this language is a little confusing to me because I was like I thought that we had a whole bunch of pre-approved
things. I figured that that part that should be underlined would say no application is required however if the current exterior color uh is from the preapproved list or is to be painted white. I didn't understand the stipulation for it to be painted white.
>> The pre-approved list where it's like, oh, okay, no application is required if the current or if the exterior color will be the pre-approved list. >> That makes sense >> because then if some jackass paints a bright orange, that's on them. They be
like, hey, this wasn't a pre-approved list. But there's no need to stipulate specifically white because white is all >> or prove that you had that same color before like that's almost possible. >> Yeah. >> So we want to strike the
basically no color application required however if the current >> so so basically after however strike the whole rest of it. However, if the color is from the pre uh if the
color choices from the preapproved list, right? Say no application is required. However, if the color choice from the preapproved park list, I don't know exact. >> Well, I mean, actually, it's kind of interesting because it does say the
exterior color is unchanged. So, that means that it had to be previously approved. Well, maybe not. It could have been grandfathered in from before time. I don't know how many houses are bright orange here, but >> I'm just saying if the however if the color has been approved
>> has been had been has been previously approved which would be which would be the the pre-approved band or I I'm open to whatever >> I want to say the pre-approved color list because the thing is is I have no idea what 15 years ago what color
somebody approved or didn't approve but it's the same problem if they said oh that color was approved back then now We're going through and trying to go through like seven systems. >> So you want to say if the color is from the preapproved list,
>> list whatever. >> Victor, you can tell us how often do people come in asking to to do that pretty frequent or not very? >> Not very. Are they are they more likely to submit their own or when you're like, "Hey, we
have all of these. Pick one." >> Well, they come in, they ask the little palette that we have, we give them that. But, you know, the color varies depending on the bread. >> Yeah. >> If it looks close to it,
>> I think that that's probably the safest way because then if somebody goes magenta, we'll be like, "Oh, >> not on the list." pre-approved color palette. >> What? >> Yeah, that's kind of the color palette. It's basically a
>> fan. >> Okay. So, however, if the color is from the pre-approved color palette, uh, no application is required. However, yeah, >> makes sense. >> And we just strike out the white because white is part of the pre-approved color.
Not sure. Okay. So, we took care of that. Took care of that. All right. Um. Oh, we had the you had the the variance. You want us to sign that? You had
something in front of you. All right. So, So, I'm just going to resign it and then I'll fill in the variable. I'll fill in the section. All right. Our next meeting is going to
be on June. We didn't need We don't need Pablo to sign this, right? He's not here. >> Oh, yes, you were. Well, don't wait. Wait, do we have a second one of these also? Oh, no. That that variance had already been approved.
Is everybody going to be back or here? June June 1st. >> Yes. The one after it is when? I'm not here tonight. >> Okay. So, any other business for tonight? >> Oh, yeah. Everybody's good for June 1st.
>> And I have to keep going. >> Okay. Maybe in June we'll talk about everybody's summer vacation plans and we can we'll plan accordingly. >> All right. So, can I get a motion to adjurnn, please? >> Uh motion to David say I. I. for
eternity.