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Part 1 (Video ID: sfLC-W2GDDg):
- 00:00:04: Call to Order, Pledge, Member and Student Introduction
- 00:00:58: Student Report: Senior Year Festivities and Drama Club
- 00:03:08: Student Council, AP Testing, and Mock Trial Updates
- 00:04:27: Middle School Report: Career Fair, Honors, Field Day
- 00:05:54: Middle School Athletics: Baseball, Softball Wins
- 00:08:19: Consent Agenda: Approving Warrants and Meeting Minutes
- 00:09:09: Policy Review Begins: Parent Organizations and Raffles
- 00:10:52: Legal Counsel Clarifies Rules on Raffles, Fundraising
- 00:12:27: Games of Chance Must Be Run By Separate Organizations
- 00:13:46: Policy Focus: 501c3 Status and School Affiliation
- 00:15:38: Defining Recognized Parent Organizations, Informal Groups
- 00:17:14: Parent-Led Fundraisers and the Calendar Raffle Question
- 00:19:05: Navigating Restrictions on Fundraising for Smaller Teams
- 00:20:39: Non-Chance Fundraisers: Soliciting and Community Support
- 00:21:27: Donations to the School Committee for Specific Purposes
- 00:22:34: Selling Snacks at School Events: Policy Concerns
- 00:23:54: Parent Booster Organizations Shall Obtain 501c3 Status
- 00:26:51: Defining Parent or Booster: Using School Name
- 00:30:26: Policy Review: Determining Benefits of Official Recognition
- 00:32:21: Legal Counsel Examines Current Practices and Regulations
- 00:34:01: Staff Involvement in Fundraising: Staff Capacity
- 00:35:25: Employees Barred: Clarification and Recommendation
- 00:36:36: Staff Member Can Be Member of Booster Organizations
- 00:37:59: Students Cannot Organize Raffles or Sell Tickets
- 00:39:04: Limiting Policies and Student Capacity for Fundraisers
- 00:41:30: Closing the Loop on Student Participation Language
- 00:42:54: Concerns Over 501c3, Raffles, and Student Risk
- 00:44:13: Sending Language for JJ, GBEC, and KBE Concern
- 00:45:34: Control and Preventing Organization Inundation
- 00:46:55: Formal and Informal Groups: The Recognition Factor
- 00:48:14: Parent Groups That Want to Fundraise for Dugouts
- 00:49:32: Accepting Water Bottle Donations and Monetary Gifts
- 00:50:33: Gifts to Sports Teams: Formal Approval Required
- 00:51:22: Revising Going Forward: No Votes Until Revised
- 00:52:26: Policy Review: Concluding for Now
- 00:53:17: ACAB Policy and Alignment with District Wording
- 00:55:00: MSBA Update: Schematic Design and Senior Centers
- 00:56:16: Community Outreach: Website Updates and Town Meetings
- 00:57:06: MES Water Update: Pilot Program and Monitoring
- 00:59:00: Notification of Bottled Water and Monitoring
- 00:59:50: User Fees Discussion: Athletics Overview and Transportation
- 01:01:42: Waiving Fees for Reduced Lunch or Family Cap
- 01:02:51: Difference Between High School and Middle School Sports
- 01:04:11: Surrounding Towns' Charges, Propose Family Cap Split
- 01:05:14: Sport and Band Fees Should Not Be Together
- 01:06:21: Increasing the User Fees to Offset Transportation
- 01:07:43: Disagreements Over Family Caps: One or The Other?
- 01:09:03: Family Caps Like the The Music Program Schools
- 01:10:56: Tiered System Just Bringing on a Tiered System
- 01:12:02: Recordkeeping: User Fees Done for the First Time
- 01:13:05: Don't Raise Sideline Fees. Implications: Title 9
- 01:14:27: Roughly 50, and Roughly 27 Both Together
- 01:15:34: Not Comfortable with Taking the Cap Away
- 01:16:04: The Total Amounts for Music for Transportation
- 01:16:51: Talk About Music and Matt's Viewpoints
- 01:17:57: It's for All the Students That Are Paying the Fees
- 01:18:28: Ask Families for Help and Submit a Sharing Form
- 01:19:17: Music User Fees Proposal Changes
- 01:20:26: Woodwin Choir: An After School and Is a Stipen
- 01:21:31: Questions Why they were Paying the Same for Marching Bands
- 01:22:50: Just to encourage the Kids to Get Excited about It
- 01:23:24: Uniforms in the Middle School, a Combo of Things
- 01:24:10: A User Fee That People Don't Feel Like is Just an Alm
- 01:25:14: Matt Feels, A Necessary Tax for Parents' Pockets
- 01:26:34: Money, Tax Money is Funding the Budget
- 01:27:22: New to Blackstone, Not to Mass and the Elderly State Person
- 01:28:45: It's a Necessary Evil and the Hardest Way to Go
- 01:29:31: Not Even Going to be able to get to Kathy for Help
- 01:30:54: Uniforms Every Year and the Sticker Shock Feared
- 01:31:56: Discussion of User Fees, Sports, and Music Programs
- 01:34:11: CMAC Scheduling and Travel Costs Reduction Efforts
- 01:35:47: Concerns About Small Districts Competing with Larger Schools
- 01:36:50: Impact of Proposed Fee and Cap Increases Discussion
- 01:38:12: Concerns and Debate Regarding Athletic Cap Structure
- 01:39:35: Exploring Per-Season Caps and Impacting Overall Numbers
- 01:40:22: Requesting Additional Data and Alternative Fee Structures
- 01:41:14: Justification for Marching Band Fee Increase Compared to Athletics
- 01:42:36: Analyzing the Music Side, Eliminating Middle School Fees
- 01:43:26: Splitting Middle School/High School Sports, Music Program Participation
- 01:45:54: Seeking Motion to Move Forward, Cap Number Discussion
- 01:46:24: Motion Discussion on Combining Caps, Music, and Athletics
- 01:47:12: Discussing Specific Fee Increases for Athletics and Cheer
- 01:48:50: Clarifying Cheerleading Fees: Sideline vs. Competition
- 01:50:08: Proposed Fee Adjustments: Cheer, Football, Other Sports
- 01:51:15: Music User Fee Comparison and Options Discussion
- 01:52:08: Comparing Middle School Programs: Jazz vs. Sideline Cheer
- 01:53:14: Proposed Adjustments and Impact on Future School Committee Meeting
- 01:54:18: Family Cap: Revenue Changes and Percentage Affected
- 01:55:12: Concern About Low Percentage Affected and Hikes
- 01:56:15: Reorganization of School Committee Subcommittees Discussion
- 01:57:41: Discussion of Each Subcommittee Changes for Members
- 01:59:25: Health Policy and Wellness Committee Discussion
- 02:02:43: School Committee Packet Changes from Previous Year
- 02:04:51: Mystic Aquarium Trip Discussion and Approval
- 02:06:16: Summer Programming Overview: K-22, Credit Recovery, Sports
- 02:07:58: ESY (Extended School Year) and ELL Enrichment Programs
- 02:09:04: Introducing the Summer Literacy Institute for Families
- 02:10:08: Credit Recovery Program: Virtual Approach and Fees
- 02:11:28: Past Credit Recovery Approaches and Hybrid Format
- 02:13:06: Emphasis on Success: Program Design and Support Systems
- 02:14:11: Credit Recovery Program Cost and Incentive Discussion
- 02:15:37: Family Process and Ability to Pay: Incentives to Graduate
- 02:17:00: Discussion of School-Based Programs Credit Recovery Alternatives
- 02:18:19: Summer Programming Program Motion and Fee Approval
- 02:19:05: Introducing Athletic Summer Camp, Discussion to Expand Programming
- 02:19:57: August Timeline, Get Kids Involved and Back to School
- 02:21:17: Out of Season Rules Affecting Athlete Involvement
- 02:22:04: Summer Breakfast Lunch Program Locations Discussion
- 02:23:25: Camp Registration and Accommodating Multiple Sports
- 02:24:29: Basketball, Football, Soccer Field Location Discussion
- 02:25:33: Nurse Volunteer to Attend Athletic Summer Camps
- 02:26:04: Session Breakdown and Daily Timeline Overview
- 02:27:24: Enthusiasm and District Support for Expanded Summer Programs
- 02:28:59: Town Coordination and Engagements Discussion
- 02:29:14: District of One Event and Community Involvement This Weekend
- 02:31:31: High School Project, Touch Truck, Games, etc
- 02:32:48: Business Office: Budget Journal Entries Overview
- 02:33:52: Personnel Report: New Appointments, Resignations, Retirement
- 02:35:05: Expenditure Report: Grant Spending and Stale Checks
- 02:36:24: Discussing Pre-Purchasing Requests and Year End Spending
- 02:37:31: Pre-Purchasing, Budget Lines, and Ending Year Balance
- 02:39:19: Pre-Purchase Needs, Supplies, and Discuss Moving Line Items
- 02:41:53: Facilities Updates: Loading Dock, Parking Lots, Industrial Burner
- 02:43:14: Irrigation System Updates and Turf Technologies Update
- 02:44:18: Playground, Fence, New High School Location Discussion
- 02:45:38: Advertising, Publicizing the Projects, Town Meetings
- 02:46:41: Ten Inches of Mulch, Testing, and Facebook Posts
- 02:48:15: Facilities Updates: Fence, Basketball Hoops, Pressure Washing
- 02:50:26: IT Department Disposal of Equipment Motion and Approval
- 02:51:39: Surplus Items List: Kitchen Equipment to Sell Motion and Approval
- 02:52:31: Facilities Surplus: Lawn Mower, Spreaders, Tents Disposal
- 02:55:30: Questionable Hot Dog Machine and Wheelhorse Tractor
- 02:56:47: Facilities Surplus: Tractors, Weed Whackers, Disposal
- 02:57:35: Facility Use Requests: Town Meetings in Blackstone and Millville
- 02:59:02: School Committee Forum: Maya's Recognition


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Okay, I will call to order the school committee meeting May 7th, 2026. Um, let's stand for the pledge of >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Introduction of members. Start with Aaron. >> Aaron Vidaco, Milville. Jane Reio, Milville. My name >> Matt Catalano, Milville. >> Chuck Dunton, Blackstone. >> Tara Scobby, Blackstone.

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>> Tara Larkin, Milville. Maya Gier, student body president. >> Kristen Dinado, director of finance and operations. Jill Pilgalerani, interim superintendent. Great. And um we will have student representatives. So, we'll start with Maya. So, we've got

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lots of end of the year festivities going on at BMR. First off, our 8th and 11th graders are in the process of electing their officers for next year. It's a big deal for our juniors because it will be their senior year next year. So, there's a lot of buzz about that. You see the posters in the hallway.

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Everybody is really hyped about all of that. And speaking of seniors, um the end of the year senior schedule for the class of 2026, my graduating year, has been finalized. On the 20th, the community service day will occur at the Blackstone Boys and Girls Club. That'll

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be 8 to 1. Lunch will be provided for the seniors and that will be followed by a banquet in North Smithfield at 12 acres and that will be later on in the evening. On the 22nd, the seniors will have their last day parade where they walk all of the schools where they had attended so many years ago. And they

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will do their senior signing where their future plans will be on the slideshow. And they'll get to have their parents there as well as their faculty sponsors. And there will also be a lunchon. On the 27th is the senior class trip. It is white water rafting this year and a barbecue lunch will be provided. And the

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28th is awards night. So that is when all the scholarships and different little like community awards come out and that'll be at the same place where our graduation will be held the following day. And graduation is at 6:00. And as of right now, it's outside. Crossing my fingers honestly for an

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outdoor graduation. It's lovely how we do a nice open graduation and everybody could come regardless of like ticket sales and anything like that. So hoping for an outdoor graduation because that seems like the plan as of right now. We had prom this past Friday on the 1st at Crystal Lake and was a huge success with

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over 190 students in attendance. >> Speaking of success, we're hoping for the same for our drama club who will be holding a talent show this Friday at 5:00 p.m. So if you're available, definitely stop in at the BMR auditorium. They've actually been rehearsing their acts for weeks. They've

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had different practices throughout the months and we are very excited to see that. Um, at our past regional student council conference, we had somebody from BMR student council, Joselyn Hagerty, run and she was elected to the regional board. She will serve as a delegate the

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following year. Yes, we're so proud of her. She is carrying on the tradition. I ran for regional, then Julia ran, and then she ran and we all got elected to the board. So grateful. And this year was also a pretty competitive year. Less than half of them actually made it onto the board. So I am very proud of Jocelyn

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and I know she represent BMR student council and our community very very well. It is AP testing season as of right now. It began on May 4th and will conclude the 15th. Today we had AP World History in the morning and AP statistics

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in the afternoon. And we will have AP testing throughout next week as well. and that occurs in the library and media center. Our mock trial team is also preparing for the spring tournament. That is the Apple Blossom tournament. It is an invitational hosted by Westford

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Academy within their high school and we will be on the defense side of the case. So that will be occurring I believe the Friday the 22nd and the Sunday of the 24th breaking for the 23rd. And that will be a great experience as we've had

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new team leadership start to move in for next year. >> Great. >> Fantastic. >> Thank you. >> That was all from memory. You you knew it all. Wonderful. >> Thank you. >> I appreciate the talent. >> Great. >> Thank you. I enjoy this. >> Good. Thank you so much.

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>> And we do have some middle school representatives. You want to come up to the table so we can hear you with an update from our middle school. It's nice that there's part you're a partner tonight. >> You just tell us your name that we >> and I'm no Catalano.

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>> Okay, great. >> Um our student in instructional leadership team has been actively engaged in this year's planning this year's career fair. Last year's event was great a great success is and

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students are excited to build on that momentum. We are currently seeking professionals from a variety of fields who are are interested in sharing their experiences and inspiring our students. We are also proud to share that our grade six students have received their

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invitations to apply for the National Junior Honor Society. This marks a milestone for our school as this is the first group of sixth grade students to have this opportunity. In in addition to academic initives, students have been actively recognizing

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and celebrating members of our school community. Last week, students honored our principal, Mrs. Repa, by creating cards and messages highlighting her as a superhero. We also recognized our lunch heroes for their daily contributions. This week, students continued these celebrations by

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showing appreciation for our teachers and nurses for all they do to support us. We are also currently seeking donations for our upcoming field day. If you are interested in com in contributing, we welcome donations of bottled water which can be dropped off

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at the main office. Middle school athletics start off to an outstanding start this spring. As our future Chargers continue to demonstrate dedication, resilience, and pride both on and off the field, student athletes across all programs have shown a

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consistent com commitment to improving each day, and their hard work is already paying off. We are especially proud of that several of our middle school athletes have earned Charger of the week honors. On the track, our athletes have been have embraced every challenge

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thrown their way. From demanding perimeter runs to grueling hill workouts, they have proven their toughness in dermatitations. That pre has translated to impressive re results with multiple athletes achieving

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personal records and even qualifying for the state meet. The middle school baseball team has also been putting in the work day in and day out and their efforts are were rewarded with a dominant 17 to1 victory over Randolph

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marking their first team win of the season. It was a complete team performance with every player contributing to an exciting and well-earned win. Similarly, the middle school softball team continues to show their tremendous growth and commitment.

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Whether it's extra reps on the pitching machine, additional ground balls, or putting an in extra time in the bullpin in their their dedication is ev evident. That is hard work. That hard work led to

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their first win of the season as well. A thrilling thrilling 16-2 victory over Sutton. We couldn't be more proud of our middle school student athletes. Their progress both individually and as teams is just the beginning. The future is

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bright for Charger athletics and we look forward to an exciting rest of the season. Good job. >> Excellent. A lot of great information. >> Very well done. >> Very well. >> Thank you very much. >> Thanks. >> All right. Moving on to consent. Consent

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agenda A. Anyone like to make a motion to approve the warrant? >> So move. >> Second. Motion by Aaron, second by Tara S. Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? >> Motion passes.

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>> And looking for a motion to approve the minutes from April 9th. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Motion by Tara, second by Chuck. Any discussion? Discussion. Hearing none. Call for the vote. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed?

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Eyes have it. All right. All right. Is there anyone for public forum? Seeing none, we will move on to school committee. We are going to take it out of order and start with E >> policy review and reconsideration. We do have our attorney um here. So, we'll get

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right to it. So, if you look under uh we had three items um that we had that was discussed as a school committee and I know there was a request to have legal counsel come and just answer or clarify any questions. So um we have um Kelly

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Gonzalez who is here and we have we're going to if you look in your packets there are there are four policies but we're going to start with the E ones which is relationships with parent relations with parent booster organizations KBE gifts and solicitations by staff GBEDC and student

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fundraising activities JJB So, I think the last time that there was a discussion, there were some questions. Um, these have been in your packet. So, I didn't know with Kelly here if she wanted you wanted her to review or you had specific questions you would like to

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ask. So I I think a lot of the question was the around the you know the legality of it, right? I think that's what they were with the there was a little bit of conversation about it last time. >> Yes. I think Kelly, some of the questions were there was a concern that

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um some of these talked about or one of these talked about the fact that staff um you know shouldn't be involved as staff. So maybe if we can clarify that and then I know there was some also questions about any requirements for raffles being a 501c3,

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what type of activities can take place, you know, outside of the school. Um and I think everyone wants to be able to do the right thing but still allow people to have opportunities to kind of raise funds. So maybe if we start with, you know, when it comes to staff, um, being involved in activities, maybe we start

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there and, you know, if there's any other specific questions. Um, I want to make sure, Kelly, can you It looks like you can hear us. I just wanted to make sure I can hear you. >> Can you hear me? I was speaking. Can you hear me? >> Now we can. Yes, >> I can hear myself echoing. >> Oh, lovely.

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>> Yes. And Selma is my colleague and she's here as well. She actually um did the Yman's work in in researching this. So, she's here as a resource if we need her. Um, I think you know, cuz this isn't your first time talking about this, um, that

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there's some kind of arose because NASC updated their policies regarding these raffles and games. Um, there's some laws in the books and also the um, attorney general issued some guidance. Um and and there's the long and the short of it is

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that there are restrictions on who can host raffles and games of chance and things like Vegas nights. So it's limited to those. We're not talking about you know the car washes or be sales. We're talking about again raffles um lotteryies those kinds of things.

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So um the again the background is is that these policies were all updated to make it clear um sort of the line of demarcation. So one of the main rules about lotteryies and games of chance is that they have to be done only by only sponsoring organizations.

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So generally speaking, it's charities, right? It's like veterans groups, church functions, educational groups. Um even though you are a school district, it doesn't count as an educational group. Municipalities and public entities do not. So basically the long and the short

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of it is that if you want to if your folks you know associated with the schools um the boosters organization want to do a Vegas night or do a the you know calendar raffle things or any of those kinds of things. Uh but it needs

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to be kept separate from school. Uh and the way that's usually done and um I believe it's I think Joel was starting us with KB E. uh it sort of it lay lays out these requirements for I want to call them school associated organizations. They're talking about

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boosters and you know friends of music, the theater parents, those kinds of things. Um they they have to be a separate organization to be able to have these types of fundraisers. So if you look at the policy kind of one, two, and three set out some of these rules. Um

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the biggest one is in number three which talks about having 501c3 charity status. So that's why the requirements under the the law the guidance is that they have to have this you know that the charity status and then they have reporting requirements and things like that. Um so that's what

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this is about. And then the new language which um I think assuming you're looking at the table I am new paragraph 4 um that does talk about um organizations again that they have to comply with the law. Um you know those of you who have

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been in policy meetings with me before know that policy should be relatively high level and I think this this captures that um so again it sort of makes clear that um if you want to be affiliated with us and we we want to be affiliated with you that's clear then you need to make sure that you're uh

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using the you follow the lot for the lotteryies and things like that if you want to do them. So this I think isn't the one if I understand correctly and I'm certainly happy to answer any questions but I don't think this was the one that was causing >> I think this one >> I think it was once >> so I think this one and I'm sorry the

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one the person who's here who had the most specific examples but I think this one was the defining kind of what is a parent organization and if it's a you know a group of parents who want to support the girls lacrosse team and I

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don't think we have one of those. So, I can say that nicely, but the girls lacrosse team and they want to get them all new t-shirts for whatever. Um, that they that that group of parents who maybe their kids are seniors have to now

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be a 5013 to do uh, you know, doughut sales at the local Dunkin Donuts or something. and and the concern was those groups change kind of as the parents change and and making sure there's

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continuity in the 501. So what I think the question was what actually defined a recognized parent organization affiliation >> the 501c3 >> what affiliates that group with the school. >> Yeah.

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>> So one of your other I'm going to not answer that question yet. I want to answer that a related question just because I think this is where some of the confusion lies. Um, so again, just to be clear, this I know this isn't your question, but that they're holding a big sale or something at Dunkin Donuts isn't a game of chance. So that wouldn't be

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something that would be restricted for these I want to call it an informal proof. Um, so again, if you want to do the games of chance and the raffles, then you have to have a 501c3 and be doing it for some period of time. So it's usually for a more kind of formal again. It's usually like you know the actual formal booster the actual you

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know PTAs things like that. You do have a policy I don't know if I have it printed out that talks about actually I think it is this it's KBE the first first part of it >> right >> and your current policy you do have um

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some language about circular issues with the organization. So, um, you know, there's usually, um, some kind of, you know, recognition if you want to have it there. I mean, you can't really prevent parents from organizing a group or force them to organize a group for that

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matter. Um, you do have a policy that that does limit the use of your um, advertising school or using your the school district name and things like that. So, that's usually how it's controlled, but there's not I don't know there's a formal um process for

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recognizing of what a booster club is per se. I mean, again, it's just this KBEB that that talks about. Um, >> so if you have a group of parents, Kelly, that next basketball season in the winter, they get together and they

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start selling drinks and snacks at the basketball game and then and their goal is to buy gifts for the kids at the end of the season or pay for their banquet in in general. Um, and they're they start selling snacks and then they do a

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calendar raffle which is just a big big fundraiser in our community. Usually the the everyday gift is donated gift card of some sort or a service. Um, obviously that's a game of chance the the calendar and it's a raffle. Is there

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a different is there a different way to do that or is it something and or is it because they're not a 501c3 they're not held to that game of chance >> and the ladder so they're not supposed to it's it it's a little bit silly

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because this is obviously trying to prevent you know like mobsters hitting up pools you know with with books on the corner um but again they're because they're not a permissible organization which is the 501c3 that's recognized you had to fill out forms and get kind of

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permits to hold these too. So, um you know, and I I I've seen many of these things. I don't know that everyone complies with it. I don't know. Either way, they may well comply with it. But using your example, like they couldn't do the calendar option because that would be again if it's a raffle, that's

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a game of chance. >> Comes a snack. >> They could sell with snacks. Um, so the the way to to kind of do that is to have, you know, got if there's like an overarching booster that already is a 501c3, which I feel isn't the same thing as what you're talking about, which is a

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sort of a more in in hormone group, but they may have to work through the boosters or the, you know, the kanas or whatever else is sort of a existing charitable group. >> Mhm. to do that if that's and then what they do is they then gift the money to

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the the school committee to buy those things. If all of this stuff is completely separate, I mean that's um again it it still isn't permissible. But, you know, if the neighborhood wants to get together and do something that that's completely unrelated to the school, that's a whole separate matter. But that's again, that's not really what

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we're talking about now either. Kelly, >> no. I think one of the I'm sorry. The one of the biggest concerns for and Carrie's not here, but I know one of her biggest concerns with kind of forcing the hand of every parent that wants to help

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one of our smaller teams do anything that this kind of reads like they're going to be forced at becoming a 501c3. So, it's either going to not happen and the kids aren't going to have that support or um

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it feels like it's an impossible hill to get over if we're if if we're writing the policy in this way, the KBE, does that mean any group of parents that want to support any of the activities

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for BMR, they have to become a 501c3? or is there something in here that's saying the size of the group or the longevity of the group? >> The the the turning point is really the games of chance, right? So, the raffle piece is the turning piece and it's not even related to the schools. It's any

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group. So, any >> that's it. >> Again, like a neighborhood group of moms could get together >> and they technically can't sell raffles either or or calendars because they're not a member of a >> of a 501c3. So the way to get around this and certainly getting around it,

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but the way to avoid this concern is to have fundraisers that aren't beans of chance. >> So if it's, you know, guess the jelly beans or I don't deal with a a duck derby of some kind where there is that element of skill.

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>> Um, hope you know we that that gets us around this this real sort of raffle game of chance piece. I mean, I heard your middle schoolers doing a really nice job of soliciting, you know, water bottles for Pelag. So, all those things that are sort of, you know, a more direct way of gathering money. The

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problem arises when it technically is one of these things of chance. So, once it becomes a raffle, once it becomes, you know, a lottery or a casino night, that's when you have bump into this problem. >> Kelly, I just wanted to get clarification. >> Mhm.

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>> I lost her. I just had two quick questions. you mentioned, I just want to make sure I was clear. You said that if a parent organization fundraises they're there then to could come to the school committee make a donation but for a specific purpose. So we would like to

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use you we would like to be able to donate whatever do they is that a requirement >> if they make it for a specific person purpose you're supposed to use it for that specific purpose. Okay. But you just, you know, it's preferable to say here's some money and you can use it,

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but you know, if the not to keep picking on the basketball team or the basketball team does it for, you know, a new whatever if they're banan um and it's school sponsored, which but then, you know, you want to use it for that those are for upgrading uniforms or or

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something like that, new helmets. >> Great. And then my only other question was for events. If they're an outside organization, they're not a 501c3, but they're still a parent group that wants to do work. If they're saying, "Okay, we want to come and sell snacks or food or whatever

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at a a school event, that would mean that anyone could come and ask us to sell things. I think I think that's sort of the concern there which is kind of there's a um there's pieces here about

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you have other policies um obviously like your facilities use public solicitation in the schools um so you know there are ways to doing provision obviously you need to be careful about um discrimination you know you don't want to have sort of only some groups are

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allowed others aren't we can say things like only student affiliated groups are so you know Um, you know, parents are people who are raising funds where students can but other organizations can't. Um, but you have I'm just looking at policies. I do have things about adverising in schools, student

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fundraising activities, um, public solicitation in the schools. So you have a couple other policies that that will do that. But I would caution you about sort of opening the floodgates to anyone being able to all trucks roll up to the basketball or baseball game because then you you do

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end up with it become open space and you have a way technical and Duchan can't be there. But I guess I'm still concerned about KBE because KBE says relations with parent booster organizations. And it's like if you want to be a parent

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organization, you get recognized by the school committee. You, you know, you are officially recognized by letting the building principal know you're going to do it. Um, and it says shall obtain a 501c3. It doesn't say to do a raffle or to do a whatever. Like the next line

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number four says, you know, to have a raffle, whatever. But the other one just says all parent organizations shall obtain 501c3 status and file appropriate paperwork. And I think that's where Carrie was like hung up like if I just

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want to be a, you know, BMR lacrosse moms, again, we don't have them, so we're good. But um >> and do a bank. >> The way this policy re read to us was that we now have to have a 501c3.

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>> Yeah. >> That number >> you can you know I mean that if you want to have you know you don't need to adopt this policy exactly as written. So if you wanted to say you know um as some kind

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of recognition process by the school committee in general and then you know say and then make the 501c freeze status etc apply with >> just to the raffles >> could we link that other fees it looks like and I I could be looking at the wrong place so please forgive me if I am

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but I if I have I'm looking at your prior version of the policy it looks like you already had >> 501c3 status is >> we We did. >> Did it say shall though? What does it I don't have the copy. >> It says shall

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>> shall in the m >> shouldn't number three at the end say if you do games of chance. >> No, >> it should. >> Oh, number three at the bottom. All parent

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organizations shall obtain a 501c3. So not all parent organizations want to go through all that hassle. So but if you do games of chance and need it. >> Yeah. But but that's how it used to read. Why are we crossing that out? >> It does. It's not how it used. This is

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the wait which is the how it used to right. >> This is the how what we had in our game. >> This is current the marked up one is our graph. >> Yes. Correct. This is our old. So it says parent booster organization wishing to conduct raffles and games of chance

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must comply with all required federal state >> reading this one. >> Yeah that's the proposal. >> This is the old one that has two sections. So it has to foster relationships and there's four new way paragraphs and then to accomplish the above and four new way

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paragraphs. >> That's what we have. It's not the proposal. Correct. >> Yeah. That second part and the proposal is the one with the red line and it doesn't have >> correct. Okay. >> And a sort of top part. >> Correct. Yes. >> Yeah. >> So, Kelly, can I ask a question? And it's

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>> so early you said that as you know, you mentioned something to the effect of using the school's name or something like that. So if if someone is out there and they're the parents of Blackstone

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>> Lacrosse >> Lacrosse, thank you. >> That that does not mean that they're a booster or parent organization. That just means they're a bunch of parents out there. But if they're out there, am I right in that assessment?

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>> Yeah. I mean, they're technically not supposed to be using your >> Right. All right. So, if they just say Blackstone, I mean, anybody can use, >> but if they say PMR or Blackstone Mill, you know, baseball logo or >> what did we did we approve the logo piece? Cuz I thought that the logo was brought to us. I thought we didn't

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approve that language. >> I I don't know. >> It should be a KHB. I think I'm looking at that little image. >> AHB. >> I don't think we approve. >> Yep. >> I know that we looked at this I think we

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tabled that one too because the logo given to us. >> When I first got on the committee, we looked at this because there was the organization that wanted to put the sign signage around the track. >> Y >> um and because it did it was only for a specific

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>> um >> we we it would have to have changed the policy which we didn't do at that time um because it was going to because that track isn't just for one sport or one one group. So we we said we nixed that. We said no.

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So that's not my question though. My question is more pertaining to what defines and I think this was already asked. What defines a parent or booster? Is it that they use the BMR name? Is that they or is it that they

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give money to or collect money for >> for a BMR activity? So I I I I think the answer is if you again if you look at your current want the red line if you look at your current PVE >> Mhm.

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>> they have this to accomplish the above and talks about the maintenance of formal parent organizations including boosters and then it says they'll officially recognize parent organizations and in that has those four procedures. So I think to be this sort of formal

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booster parent recognized organization you need to be one of these formal organizations. So that is again for the music boosters but the group of parents for the lacrosse team wouldn't be one of these formally recognized groups. Um and they also

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what that means I don't entirely know. I mean, I'm sure other policies will say that if you look at one of the policies, it says something about um the PTO counts as a student at a school group. Um

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yeah, so if you look at policy K AJ um that talks about public solicitation, it does talk about um you know, PTO groups representing school employers be considered school groups and governed by the staff solicitation. So I think there's it I think you get sort of whatever

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benefits the committee is granted to these officially recognized organizations. I'm just going to call them you know formal boards. Uh so they have these um recognition and then they um I think they get some kind of

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benefits like either being able to use your your logo or whatever else is allowed under all these policies where you look at what the formal groups are. See if I can do a search. So, Kelly, if we were to approve it with the word with KBE written as parent

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booster organizations the apparently the way it was written wishing to rap to conduct raffles and games of chance that they must comply with the applicable laws. Um, but somewhere put the language in there

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that they they are the ones that have to be the 501c3. That's there. No, >> the way it used to be written, >> it says all parent organizations shall obtain 501c3, >> right? >> Then it the way it used to be written, parent booster organizations wishing to

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conduct raffles and games of chance must comply with applicable laws. >> If that became >> part we've gotten there that they have to that they have to have that status and apply with the laws. Well, the there is a a major question from a member

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that's not here about the expense of becoming a 501c3 for such a small group for such a short like a winter sport or a spring season 8 weeks like who how are they going to do that and how are they going to roll that over to a new group when they has you

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have to have an elected board for 501c3 you have to have bank accounts >> absolutely >> your point's all taken I guess my point is they may not be >> they can still exist as a informal proof. It's just not going to be a quote unquote recognized, >> okay, >> formal parent organization.

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>> And do we need to point that out? >> Question really is is what benefits come from being a recognized parent organization. Is that fair? >> I think that's a great answer hearing it from our legal like they can still exist. That was her answer and we couldn't get past that at this table. >> Yeah. So, I'm just think I'm trying to

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look where it might change things. So, I'm wondering if like just like your facilities use might have a preference for for official groups. So, we don't >> um >> let anyone use it. >> I I don't know where else we might have it. It looks like it's just looking at I doing some pre-word searches, there might be some, you know, benefits to

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some of these. >> So, it felt like we were forcing the hand of those smaller groups for shorter times into the 501c3. Then when they become a 501c3, then we're we're approving JJ, which

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kind of ties their hands on the fundraising legally. So if you are a 501c3, you can pay the $10 to your town or state and get that permit to have >> your raffle >> a raffle. Okay. But now we have another

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policy in place approving this. If we approve this that says >> students cannot participate ever regardless if the permit is gotten I believe correct me if I'm wrong and nor can staff. Now what we have in our towns

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here is a very small community. Some of the staff have children that are students that are participating in some of these that so are those staff members going to be at risk of of losing their job if they part if if we were to adopt

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this policy? Are we putting our staff at risk in any way just because they gave a a child $10 for a fundraiser that wasn't cookie dough? It wasn't for an item.

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>> So, yeah, I like the wrapping paper, but um yeah. So, if you G B E BC is the one that bigger piece because that is the one about the staff. >> Mhm. >> Um then says employees are barred for participating in such activities unless

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doing so as a member of a sponsored organization such as a parent organization as defined by law. Oh, I I don't see this as being a huge risk um of a again a parent who's a a teacher um

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being fired for this. But it I I do think because I I was thinking about this one option would be to kind of make it clear that you know um differentiate acting in a professional capacity right so when you're in the school what you're doing as a teacher is limited once you

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go home you take off your teacher hat and you put on your parent hat and citizen hat then then you have more freedom to you know there's still ethics rules and neither that apply but um you could still you can then go to the the raffle or do whatever effort is you going to do. So it that's something that

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I think we could do an easy tweak just to make it clear to differentiate between professional capacity versus personal capacity. >> So you have a recommendation for that language. >> Um so if you look are you on GBBC?

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>> Correct. So the second sentence is employees are thus barred from participating in such activities unless doing so as a member of a sponsored organization such as a parent. You can say that they're barred from participating in such activities in

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their um professional capacity. However, they may do so in a personal capacity as a member of a sponsoring organization such as >> what is so Kelly so by state law and regulation raffles and games of chance may not be organized by schools as a sponsoring

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organization. Employees are thus thus barred from participating in such activities um in their official capacity but may do so um in a personal capacity or as a member of a sponsoring organization such as a parent or booster organization.

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>> I wouldn't do I think actually I think it should say is that um official professional capacity. Sorry I said official but >> okay and get rid of >> um >> the as a member of a sponsoring organization. No, I think it but they do so in their

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personal capacity um as a member obvious sponsoring organization etc. >> Thus for participating in social >> so they would have to be a member still organization things apply. So, Kelly, they have to be a member of the booster

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organization. They can't just be >> Yeah, that was my >> Yeah, that was Yeah, that's why. >> So, so if I have my lacrosse team and I'm a 501c3 and I'm and I get my permit to have my Super Bowl raffle, the number the pick a number, whatever.

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>> You get the squares. >> Okay. So, I I've got my 501c3. I got my permit. I'm lacrosse team. I got my permit. We're doing the Super Bowl raffle and a teacher wants to buy a raffle ticket

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that doesn't have any kids. She just wants to buy >> She just wants to buy a raffle ticket. Not during school hours. >> Mhm. >> At the Dunkin' Donuts. >> Yeah. Exactly. Okay. >> And they buy it. >> Then let's go with what Joe said. >> Okay. Okay. So, we'll put stick it or

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personal capacity or as a member of >> Yeah. sponsoring organization. Got it. That that makes sense. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. >> Oh, I think that is that is Aaron Purern

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that covers PB. >> So, they do not have to be a member of >> No, >> the booster. They they can be a staff that doesn't have children. They can be a parent >> because they're doing it in personal capacity, not during their work. So,

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can't do it during work day. So we'll do it as personal capacity or as a member of that's why we don't want to say and so or >> they can wait till the end of the school day go over in Venmo. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Do the little from research.

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>> Yeah. All right. That got us in. That didn't get us on the all the other ones >> on JJ E. Kelly. I think the new underline lines people had concerns that. So it says students and student groups are barred from state law and

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regulations from organizing raffles or games of chance participating in sales of or purchasing tickets of such games. So I think we just wanted some clarification. So that means students should not be engaging involved or purchasing if a game of chance raffles

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or games of chance that's JJ >> and they sell it. >> Yeah. Uh, they shouldn't be selling the games of chance, but I think we're back to the can they buy a ticket at the Dunkin Donuts. Um, >> yeah, we're still on my lacrosse team

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selling the Super Bowl ramp. >> I know. I I'm with you. I'm thinking I'm picking up the Munchkins. So, maybe we do verify that to um, you know, >> Well, I guess I guess so. This is where I have a where I have an issue with it

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cuz my issue was like what is the law and the law says if they're not 18 they can't buy a raffle ticket right so they can't shouldn't be able to buy a raffle ticket whether it's >> can they sell them can they be the kids at the basketball game selling the 50/50 raffle ticket >> put the ticket in front of all the parents

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>> not a sale price but a game of champ donation amount like could they accept a $10 donation >> in one set 5050 ticket, >> right? >> They're not supposed to. They're not supposed to handle the money. They're

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supposed to be able to sort of set up the >> That's awesome. >> You know, if it's like a a casino night, which you know, but let's say it's something like that or they're going to have a raffle. They can help set up the little booth for our ask us to handle the money. That's the that's the the line. And you know, I

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guess there's sort of an overreaching problem which is similar to the one with the teachers that this one is written even more broadly. >> Kids collect the money >> to your point. it. A student isn't supposed to buy a raffle ticket. If a bunch of kids on a Saturday are doing football or Sunday doing football squares completely separate from school, not

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doing anything to school, it you don't need to does this need to be addressed by your policy. Um, and technically, I think what you're saying is that this theoretically would cover that. Um, and I think what we're really worried about, this goes back to the sort of officially recognized groups, right? student groups

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can't do this or students acting like they you know um yeah so I think it's student groups or and students acting on behalf of student groups I mean it's their capacity as a student more than as a

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>> yeah it does say students and student groups >> and that's just for the raffles and games of chance they can collect a donation from >> correct >> other correct >> actual donations for aff racket. They can't buy a square, >> right?

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Mom or dad. >> I mean, my my general view is that, you know, policies need to put people on notice of things, but they also don't need to be, you know, he every single circumstance >> thought of. So, we can also look at some

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of the language from um trying to go where it is. I think it might be the attorney general's guidance that I mean we could have again like student groups are barred from >> posting organizing them right or participating in the um and if you know if the group of parents are organizing this they can't then handle lacrosse

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table or door to door selling the raffle um in their uniforms you know but um I think we could limit to students and then say you know again has to comply with applicable laws >> right laws

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apples and games of chance. >> Make it just higher level. Like I think it's um >> and I don't think anyone here doesn't want to follow the law. We just want to make sure people are protected for when >> for you know like their job and that

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even kids aren't going to get in trouble for >> right and you're making a policy that makes sense because again no one needs to be policing someone's basement to see if kids are doing Super Bowl squares if they're doing it on their own time and theoretically and again no I don't think anyone intends it to be but

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theoretically a student could be in trouble for doing that know there's no real nexus to the school >> but myself as a parent could do the Super Bowl squares next January and I could come in front of this committee and say I'm donating this money. >> Doesn't matter how I raised it and I'm

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donating it to your school. >> They they don't care where I got my money from a basement. >> Money comes from a legit place. >> Well, legit means so if you could just say I >> money that I have

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>> that would make things better than you know bringing up the the squares. Yeah. >> Um, preferably don't use squares to raise the money from them. >> It raises so much money, Kelly. >> So much money. I know. >> So much money. >> What will you buy next? Um, so just to

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kind of close loop on this one, I think we can, and I don't have the language off the top of my head to be perfectly frank. I could try. But >> honestly, if you could just get it to us, I think we would feel more comfortable with >> if you could just get that language to us so we can >> I'm thinking along the lines of student

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groups/ student fundraising activities won't have students doing these things and then steal the language from KBE that basically says that, you know, we'll comply with all applicable laws, whatever regarding, you know, fundraising, something like that. Thank you.

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>> So, Kelly, you'll be sending along some language for JJ. We did talk about the language update on >> Send that to Jill. Who should I send that to? Sorry, Jill. >> Sure. >> EB XYZ subcommittee person. Does Jill or someone else? >> Yeah, Matt is the chair of our policy

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subcommittee. So, if you want to include um Matt and you can feel free to add me if you'd like. And then GBEC, I know I wrote that down. Um we know we're going to make that change for that one. And then I'm I can suggest I think we know

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KBE the concern is that is there a possibility of looking at that language and considering moving the three because I think what I heard was in order to be required for number three the 501c3

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it's really after if it's a wishing to conduct raffles and games of chance. So I'm wondering would it make sense to tweak the language and flip them? >> So I guess that's that's a question for the committee is

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>> your number for your current official groups right now have to jump through certain groups including a 501c3 status. This is unrelated to the games of chance. So question one is do you still want to have kind of those requirements in a

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process for these groups? I I I think it might be worthwhile because again it that gives you some level of control and it and it prevents being inundated with three groups of here's here five there and then you're having to please all of them and then worry about you know yes to this group no to that group and it

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may be legit but I I think if you kind of have these very limited and very specific sort of again formal organizations that doesn't prevent other organizations from existing it just doesn't call them kind of school sponsored. Um so I I I like the idea of having sort of these official ones. Um,

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and then you already have the 501c3 requirement, so I don't know that it makes a difference. >> Yeah. Um, >> where it say adding that the bill chance be pie, I guess. >> So, you're recommending keep KBE as is because this this is for those that are

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actually recognized by the school committee as actual organizations. Correct. To to >> by the principal, not the school committee. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. By the principal. um that they're officially recognized. They send this the organization papers to the superintendent and then they would

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follow all those rules which what you're saying is is the other kind of floating groups who just want to do you know what I mean do a bake sale or do something on the outside of school >> informal groups >> it wouldn't apply to this because it's not a formal group or organization recognized by the school

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>> right again they wouldn't be able to use a chance but you're not like I'm just worried that you're going to have all these groups that have some kind of like tangential connection with You're never going to be able to monitor them all and if someone, you know, just the liability >> I don't think it's going to be any

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different than it is right now for decades >> for forever. Yeah, it's already how we're doing it to be honest. I I do we have more than one 501c3 group. I believe we have one >> one >> there. We have one and then we have

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booster pop I want to call them pop-up boosters. when when you have active parents for that season, they show up and they do a lot and then they're gone cuz their kids are done. >> I mean, I hope there's a possibility >> and we want to encourage that

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>> and and I hope >> and we don't they don't need to do this like formal thing though, right? Like I think it goes both ways. Like they don't need to be all that formal either. They can go in and do what they want to do. >> They can't afford it either. And we were feeling like that was going to force them to to have to afford that,

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>> right? But they also don't they can kind of do their own thing though, right? Like they don't need to be like the formal school groups. Like can a group of parents be like, "Hey, we're going to get together and raise money for this season." >> You're placing the the dugout. I don't know. Um don't hate it. They can get and

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it doesn't have to be a school sponsored, school affiliated group. It could just be a group of parents want to do this. >> Okay. I'm playing devil's advocate and I hate to but I'm going to >> Are you back at Dunkin Donuts? >> No, I'm not back at Dunkin Donuts. I'm raising money for the dugout and we raised it on our own and we put the

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dugout in and we're we called ourselves the >> BMR dugout blasters. I don't know what but but whatever but we called ourselves BMR and a kid gets hurt putting in the dugout. >> Well, we have regionals no different

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than an Eagle Scout project. >> We have to accept that. >> Yeah, >> they come to us. We approve it. >> Right. So, you'd accept the money, right? So you wouldn't accept and if they wanted to help with the actual project, you'd have to go through all the oops, you know, if there's any kind

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of like bidding requirements or something. >> We accept the money under their other policy that talks about gifts and donations. So they didn't have to be a 501c3 or anything to raise it, but they have to bring it to us to accept it.

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>> Okay. All right. >> Yeah. Yeah. So they can donate the money and but again the slight caution is if you know that your money is not supposed to come from shady places. So you're supposed to get you're not supposed to accept a gift if it's from you know this thing fell off the back of a truck and

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someone's trying someone and sold all those things and giving you the money. You're not supposed to accept it. But again that's why we're talking about parents trying to help. >> Kelly can I ask a question? Does it have to be a money that is requested for the

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committee to accept or can it be item like somebody comes and says I'm would like to purchase 25 warm-up shirts for the baseball players on my cost. They don't have to give the money. They can just purchase those, right? >> Yeah, you have to accept it. But yeah,

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they can they can do that. I mean some you have to be careful because sometimes there's like a you make sure there's like quit proquo for it you know it doesn't have someone's face on or something but but yeah someone wants to do that again you have to go through the acceptance process which is good because it gives you some kind of level of

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discretion but you know again nine out of 10 times it's someone trying to help out and of course it'll take them. So, Kelly, anytime there's a group that wants to give something like warm-up shirts to a team, they can't just give it to the team, it has to come before

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the school committee first. >> I mean, it's supposed to. >> So, if the pop-up booster raised money all season, all across season, and at the banquet, they want to gift all 10 kids a a a t-shirt, it would have to be

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approved at committee before they can gift at the banquet that they paid for. We have to approve the banquet >> that >> I don't think so. No, because it's not a school any school sponsored activity.

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>> See, it's it's not it's a pop-up booster, >> right? >> So then they can just show up at practice and be like, "Hey, popups funds got you all a shirt." >> It's a t-shirt. >> Okay. And we've done this. We've had we've had parents do the boys baseball uniforms

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>> basketball somebody doesn't. >> So it's really not changing. It's just a procedural. >> Yeah. I think it's just submitting the information to the business office >> only if it's an official. >> I can't tell you how many kids have the football jackets that we never they just

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get them at their banquet. So >> they're nice. >> They're >> Yeah. I mean, we're not going to prevent I mean, I would love parents can obviously give each other gifts and things when they want. Um,

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so it it's just the it's the limit of you. They can't do it in school, right? So, if they're like, you know, if you're giving them free access to your cafeteria for the banquet, which it sounds like you're not, you know, during the school day or something, then that's a different conversation. But if they're having a banquet cuz it's all the parents of the the prostate want to go

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celebrate the end of the season and give everyone a whatever then that's not really a school thing. That's a popup later. >> We got pop-ups. >> All right. So we going to these going to revise a little bit. So we're not going

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to No votes tonight. >> Yeah. >> Are there any further discussion comments on these? Are we something with ACA? >> I think we're just doing these three right now >> with Kelly and then D is um a new one

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that we have from the policy sub. >> Oh, that's so we're good. >> Yep. >> No, this is >> So are we letting Kelly and Ra go or do you want them in case? >> Good. >> These ones we just >> did today. >> All right, I think we're all set. Thank

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you so much for joining us for all your advice. >> Thanks. Thank you, Kelly. >> Thank you, Kelly. >> Do you want to go back to next policy? >> Sure. Do you want to do the next policy while we're while we're here? >> All right. Go to D. >> Yep. So, it's ACAB. Um, so what we did

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um in our our policy subcommittee um we had sent to Kelly based on some title mind changes. We wanted to update all of our connecting policies. So, the first one is ACAB. The top section is what we currently have and the um the section

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behind it, anything highlighted is just some updated language um that um we're where uh the the policy subcommittee is proposing. Well, Kelly gave us this, but >> yeah, but and it comes right from title.

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And that's very cool. This was also just to align it with district wording rather than >> correct, you know, some clerical stuff in there. And um

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>> right, we'd be listing the current officer. Good. You want a motion to approve as amended file um policy a ACAB motion by Jane. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Matt. Any additional

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discussion. >> All right. Hearing none. We'll move for the vote. All in favor? I. >> Any opposed? Right. >> We will approve the amendments to ACAB. All right. Uh, MSBA update.

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We just have a a quick update. Um, we're continuing to work on a completion of our schematic design and I think the more meetings we have, it's, you know, it's really starting to come to life. Um, we've done presentations um, and I know Jane has accompanied us on on both

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as well as um, Greg and Vivian from both DRR and Collers. represented at both boards of selectmen. That has been done. We have visited the Milville Senior Center and we do have a um a plan to visit the Blackstone Senior Center in June. I believe it's June 4th.

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>> Um we did have um we had a the elementary dance was was just happened. It was very active dance. But what was really nice is a lot of parents actually did come up. I know Matt, I saw you there came up and asked a lot of questions. So having the boards there was great cuz that's what kind of drew

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them over and we were able to have some conversations and ask some questions. It was a lot of positive feedback. Um um Kristen and I were actually we attended the national the honor society and we had some flyers. We didn't have as many folks come over but we did have some some folks come over and ask some

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questions. Um and again the goal of the committee when we get out this information is just accurate information so people have what they need to make the best decisions moving forward. Um, we I would encourage people to visit our district websites now that the web page is updated. We're putting new

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information up there as we get it. Um, and we're trying to get as much information as we can out for community presentations, um, our reports when they're done. Um, and to send along any questions um, and there's a site on there and I do continue to include that. Not only is it on our site, but all

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these links are in the community update when you when you get those. And I we have an upcoming meeting next week. Y and if and if anyone is available, we're going to have the boards at the town meetings. So maybe people from the other town who want to do Millvilles on the

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11th and then people from Milville who want to do Blackstones on the 26th. But we have the frequently asked question sheet and we have the handouts and so if anybody thinks they can go for an hour before the Millville town meeting, let us know. >> Anything else?

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No, I think good summary update. Um, and then our MES water update. Um, I know with Jen Gil who was moved on from the board of selectman, Kristen Foody would now is now um the my contact. So, we know that the pilot program started

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on officially on February 25th. It was delayed a couple days of because of snow. Um, and it continues to move forward. They are monitoring it regularly, but they are making some adjustments to some of the filters um as they're getting some of those updates. And when I spoke to Kristen um this week, she said that they're just waiting

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now for the results of the water testing for quarter 1, which if it started at the end of February, it would probably be at the end of May. Um so we're we're keeping up to date on those. So as of right now, no results since the new system was >> not an official, but what they do is

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they monitor it on a regular basis and based on what they're seeing. For example, they were they must have looked at the pH, right? So they had to um add soda ash. I learned all about soda ash and what that does, the salt and that. So that's been added, things like that, but no official results. That's coming

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out hopefully. She said once she sees once she has those, she'll let us know. Um, but we're continuing to monitor on our end if we have any concerns that come up. Um, I know Matt reaches out right away. Um, he saw some condensation one day and we reach right out and I'm going to say the water company

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themselves, State Mccclure, they have been really very anytime we call them, we we are getting phone calls back um and they've been very responsive. Are we still following the same um policy where if it's not in the I want to use the

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word healthy range >> that the notice has to be >> posted and shared. I haven't we haven't received anything that it hasn't been but if it does come through right now we are still remember we would get that out but we're still doing bottled water for all drinking and cooking. So, I was just

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going to say >> yes, >> we should definitely notify if we if we're legally bound to notifying. We should also put like maybe right on the top >> bottled water is still in use. This is a legal note or something. >> Yeah. >> The the notice normally goes right through the Milville and then they reach

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they have Peter always sends us the notice and that we have to post and we have to respond. >> So, under this pilot, >> yes. >> Is it required? >> I don't see why it wouldn't. It's still water but they are expecting the the quarter one. >> Okay. But because it's a pilot, there's like some ongoing things that they're

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doing in the meantime to make sure it's running properly. >> Okay. >> So, and that's up for the MS water. >> Thank you. Okay. >> User piece. >> Yes. So, the user piece, I'm going to have um myself, Kathy, Elizabeth, and

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Todd come to the table just to kind of go over um some of the information that we have in our packet. So, we've actually I say we Kathy's been working hard um looking over all of our athletic

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fees and our music fees and gathering some data. Um, we have not done any kind of increases in the fees in quite some time. And as we've been talking about with all of the meetings that we've had this year, the

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costs have really increased um significantly over the years, especially with transportation um with them. And that is that is how we've been um or that's the offset that we've been using. The user fees that we have been collecting has been going

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towards transportation. So, we're going to start with athletics. Um, so there's some data points here that we this year we received a total of 68,675 in athletic user fees. So, we have collected a quite quite a bit of of

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money on that. Um, but just to kind of give you some data against that, our cost for transportation just for athletics this year is $121,719. And that is with some estimated costs for the last three months of the year.

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Um, and in there you'll see there was 210 athletes who participated in a sport throughout the year. Um, and there are some athletes that have their fees waved because of um, they're certified by the state um, for free and reduced lunch. We

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do not charge any any parents or families that are economically, you know, have some economic challenges. So that is free for them and that is 21% of those children have had their fees waved. We have also had 7% of their fees waved because they've reached the family

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cap and the family cap is $600. So the current fees that we have right now for athletics, we charge $100 for sideline chair, $325 for football, and $200 for all other sports.

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Um what our proposal is is that we'd like to increase the fees for all the sports $25 except for sideline chair in middle school sports. Um so the middle school

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sports if I recall we were going to keep flat without any kind of increase and that's because there is a big difference. there's a discrepancy between what's happening with middle school sports and high school sports and what they participate in. >> I mean, I can speak to that a little bit. So, my biggest goal here is to or

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we're all trying to make it right, quote unquote, right? So, we're trying to look at how we can help offset transportation while making it fair for the families and for the kids on what they're getting. Um, a big thing for me, and you can look at the table on the bottom, is high school sports. If you're parents

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here, I know we have families that are involved in athletics, right? you know, what your kids get at the middle school level is far different um than what they get at the high school level. Um they play a significant they they play at least five games less, right? They don't have an opportunity to make playoffs. Um

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a lot of their games sometimes you only have one official. Um unfortunately there's an official shortage and that's where it goes, right? So middle school is not the priority. So there's a lot of different things. They don't practice on the weekends. They don't practice over vacations. It just it's different. Um, so we firmly believe that it shouldn't

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be the same a user fee for what you what you get at the high school level and middle school level. Um, so that's kind of where we're coming from on why we're saying 200 and then high school sports is that 225. Um, and then obviously then football will go to 350 because we're

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increasing high school sports by $25. Um, and remaining sideline chair the same. It's our understanding we kind of are doing a dive into sideline cheer. Um, and it seems like they just come to home football games, they don't travel or I I'm getting >> they've started the last couple of years.

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>> My expectation will be that they're like I want them to get more involved, but this just seems like a starting point of where we're at right now and what seems to kind of write things per se. Um, so that's that middle school piece. And on the bottom of the sheet, it does

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Elizabeth had looked at what surrounding towns are are charging currently so that we can see if we are in line um with with areas around here. Um does anyone have any questions? And one of the other things that we talked about

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was the family cap and seeing that we would like we would propose that we we split the family cap so that athletics is separate from music. Um, and that we would increase the family cap for athletics to $900.

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>> Wait. Okay. I'm sorry. So, if you have a child who does band and does a sport, they're paying both those fees. And those two fees together are not combined for the cap. That is what we're proposing. >> Why? So, I noticed that some schools

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here give a break. Like, so if I only have one child and they do both a sports Mhm. >> And music. I'm now over $1,000. The same amount for somebody who has four kids or five kids or six kids.

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Like, and I know that that that doesn't, you know, it's like, oh, well, you only had one. I don't know what the answer is, but it just seems in in that increase, it seems a significant increase for a family that might have >> a similar activity. It's a similar

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activity. One's music, one sports. >> I just I would like to know why why that recommendation is it where is there a financial piece or is it what what made you recommend that? >> I think when we were looking if we started looking at athletics and we're trying to come up with reasons behind

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where we're like where were we getting these numbers and we had talked about four sports like you can get whether it's two children and two sports but the cap brought you to four sports is where we we got that number from. a family cap where I'm coming from for the athletic side of things. I won't speak to the

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music side. Um for us, right, it the goal is to help offset transportation. It's really expensive. Um the CMAC conference is really expensive. We're sending teams a lot of different ways, right? So the budget's only going up. So trying to find a way to make sure we're properly offsetting it so that it's

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manageable for us. So, we need to make sure that we're getting the majority of user fees for us to help do what I need it to do or we need it to do. >> A family cap in my eyes and our our viewpoint is it should be to help those

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families that are like Carrie, I'll use you for example, like multi-kids and three sport athletes. Like the goal of a family cap is to help those kids that do three sports. >> Yeah. But you're doing it at the disservice to my kid cuz I've only got one and they want to play three sports.

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So now I'm up to my $900 or six, whatever it is. And I'm one kid on that bus and no offense >> because you don't have four kids, but she's four kids on the like same bus, same whatever, but I'm not paying I'm paying more of my fair share.

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>> You also have kids that are 100% on the field hockey team in the fall and 100% in marching band in the fall. Now you're Now you're a parent. Are they going to make the kid choose? I don't know. >> I would I don't know. >> I would be like, >> it's already hard to fit in schedulewise. >> Moneywise, I'd be like, which one which

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one do you want more? You're choosing band or sports. There's no cap together anymore. I'm It's one or the other. And then >> yeah, >> I think it happens more than mix than I mean. >> I don't think any of us are arguing against raising. I think we've got to

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combat the cost of the transportation. And there's transportation in both of the fields. So we know we need to do that. I just want to do it fairly >> across the like as fair as we can across the like so that everybody shares the

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burden and it doesn't seem like >> somebody's getting a huge discount. >> Point Jane the sideline chair if they're going to start going to away games why can't they increase by 25 too. >> It's not even all just about transportation. The cheerleaders uniforms are the most expensive uniforms

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we pay for when when we buy them. It's not and I and it's nothing against cheerleaders. I was one, but it is the most expensive uniform that we pay for maybe minus football if you put all the pieces together.

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I don't I don't even if they're not being transported, it's >> I mean, they're already under the other sports. So, if we're going to increase everybody to by 25, then they get the $25 increase, too. they're still below everyone else. >> I I think it's interesting if you start looking at the chart at the bottom though when if we're going to talk about

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the family caps like the three schools referenced for music have no family cap and then other districts like they don't have a cap but they provide a discount the more activities you're involved in pretty unique >> or it's a per season. So we could

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combine >> sports and music per season and have a cap maybe that way like >> Well, I would like to see King Phillip sport. Why? Why don't we have their sport? >> I can talk to it. We didn't put it on here. Um King

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>> the reason for these three for music was they were the three closest schools who compete at the marching band level. >> Towns like Bellingham or something don't compete in marching band. So, we were trying to give you a sense of somebody who has a competitive marching band, what their fees would be. That's why

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those schools are so different than what you >> But what is King Phillip sports fees I think should be comparable. >> King Philip no longer has a competitive winter guard and win a percussion. King Phil, they only have a marching marching band. >> Wow. >> Um, King Phillips

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>> athletics, they tier their sports. So they um looked at it >> and I don't agree with it at all. I they deem >> um >> basketball is the most important. That's going to be 350. Um football like they

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put sports into pods and I'm not going to say that one sport I believe all sports are equally important. Um >> so they tear it based on that. >> Do they have a family cap for sports? >> Um don't recall.

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I think they do something similar to if you look at Northbridge how it kind of the first sports 150 and then it goes down like that. I think it goes down on your third season or something like that. Like they just do one season off on a discount. Something like that.

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>> That's a lot. >> I don't know the exact number. I can get it for you. >> Right. bringing on a tiered system like some of the other schools. >> Yes, it's a lot of >> I'm just going to throw it out there.

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Thank you. >> And I'll be honest, I like I that I looked at Kathy and I'm like, "Oh, how cool would it be to have like an early for me like I'm trying to make people understand that there's registration deadlines and you have to register." Oh my gosh, how cool would an early

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registration be? How do you track that? like it's really hard to track these things. >> Mhm. >> Um it's not easy to do and it kind of complicates things >> cuz I love the >> three sport >> right the three sport athlete discount. I I know we have very like we have I think one senior who's a three sport

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athlete. >> I don't know if we have many more than that in the junior class. Like I would love that but how do you like what a recordkeeping nightmare is it to track? >> It's your pleasure that I do that. I work at the pleasure of the school committee. I just uh this is my second

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year doing user fees and this is finally coming to the point where people understand what the user fees are that they're due before the season is like it's been a uphill battle for the last two years of explaining what they what they are and getting them and making sure that they're paid before season

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starts. So if you would like to go to a tiered it can be done. I it just adds a whole another layer to the whole this I think we were trying to >> simplify it >> simplify it as easy as possible and right size it feeling like maybe 200

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wasn't the appropriate cost and I think we figured out um Todd you said music hadn't been looked at for 10 years you thought >> I think it's been over that >> so we're one I don't know when the last time the athletics were looked at um and I think we were just trying to rightsize it and I think the reason for the

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hundred for sideline cheer was it was so kind of unusual >> than the other ones that we didn't want to try to touch everything and change everything. >> Don't want to um >> touch everyone but one. >> No, I I I don't totally disagree. >> Yeah.

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>> Might have title N implications, too. >> Yeah. >> Say again. >> Didn't even >> if we >> if we don't raise them across the board, does it have title n implications? >> Sorry. >> No, you're right. You're right. Sorry

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guys, it's going to be that wet blanket again. Um question is how many families hit the um the cap this year this or or all sports been and music has been paid for. So AC across the board probably

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>> I think it says it here right of the total 33 33 >> students >> students but yeah >> 7% >> 7% >> oh no I'm sorry >> probably only totals out to probably 20 families

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>> like three >> and most of them are >> are >> a family that has two children at least playing two to three sports or they have children doing both marching band and um sports

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and have multiple children. And there was on the music one, it did say that the family cap there were 27 students um had hit the family cap for music fees. So, and they could that could be a com combination between that and the

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athletics that they're they're in both categories. >> That's roughly 50, right? >> Yeah. So, I think we were trying to see how many families within the district do both. Um, and I don't know if it was they said, you know, maybe a handful.

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It's you don't have the majority of the kids are not doing both music and sports. Um, but you do have a handful of of them. >> Well, I don't think you have 27 families that hit the cap for music without having sports involved because our music fees are

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>> are where they are because 10 years ago So if it's a small >> because of all the other money that parents pay into the activity, it was fought very hard by Mr. Schaeer to keep it down at that time is and to answer the question, it was music and sports were 10 years ago. It neither has been

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touched except for co we waved fees for that entire year. >> Okay. >> For everyone to >> or the year 21 the following year maybe 20 there was nothing. >> Those two years right when it was all one year of really nothing. And

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>> that's a small percentage of students that do both. I'm not comfortable taking their cap away cuz I'm not comfortable with making families choose. >> No, I would hate to see that or see the participation in either one go down. >> Yeah, but you could but you could increase it.

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>> They can $25 is >> What was the total amount on each end for transportation cost that directly correlated to that? Do we have that here? So, I had Hold on. Where's my sticky? Oh,

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so I have transportation for at for the music was $36,311. >> Is our um is this transportation part of chapter 90? >> Um no, it is not. >> No, >> no, that's regional transportation that

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has nothing to do with athletics. And the athletic was >> 21 or something >> $121,719. >> So, so I don't know if we want to kind of come up with a a consensus on athletics before we move on to music or do we want

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to talk about music as well? I think we want to talk about music, but Matt, did you >> No, I'm just saying all So, all of the monies on both ends went to transportation, >> correct? >> Didn't even cover it. >> Didn't cover it >> yet. It offset it. >> Yeah.

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>> So, >> I mean, you could pull any number. >> You could pull any number from the line items. You could say, "We spent this much on uniforms for athletes. We spent this much on uniforms for marching band." like you could it it's not going

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to cover one specific thing. It's just a >> offsetting >> a little bit of an offset off of each >> and I think we're trying to keep it so that it covers all the sports. I think it gets a little bit tricky when you say well user fees are going to cover uniforms when we're not buying uniforms

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every year. So, I think we we've been trying to be mindful of how do we >> make sure the money that is coming in is for all the students that are paying for those fees. >> Good point. >> Right. So, that lacrosse parent doesn't say, "Why am I paying $200 this year

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when my kid didn't get a new uniform? >> They're wearing the uniform I wore." >> Correct. And I do try to work my raffles with parents >> that I told my dun that are not directly certified. But I I do I put it out there as much as possible. Please contact me.

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We'd like to we'd like to help. >> Like we're not I don't ever want any sport athlete, musician to come out and say, "I didn't play because I couldn't pay the user fee." I'm more than willing to I help out and or listen and say,

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"This is what we can do to help. On that front too, just for people that are listening, we did change things over as well that we have asked the families to to submit a sharing form. Um because in when students are free and reduced,

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that information stays with the food service director and food service department and cannot be shared with any other department unless a family fills out a sharing form. So no one in the school should know who is free and reduced um unless a family says it's

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okay to share it with our department so that we can wave those fees. So I know there was some concern where you know people were asking why do I have to fill this out and it's just because we're trying to make sure that that that information is secure and is not shared

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unless we we get that >> permission. Um, as far as with the music user fees, I'm going to we'll go into that. So, again, is the top is the overview and our proposed changes were to increase the the marching band from

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$140 to $180. So, there is a $40 increase that we're proposing there. the winter percussion in guard which has less competitions. We were just proposing a $10 increase as well as the high school jazz band

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and we were going to remove the fees from the middle school jazz band and the woodwin choir. Um and again that's part of right sizing. I think we're looking at all of these and trying to understand why are we why are we charging fees and what is it going towards and some of

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these the jazz band the woodwwind choir it's hard they're not they are not in the same category as what the marching band is doing and what we're paying for with the marching band. Um so there was we were trying again to to rightsize and

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say okay do you know do we drop fees or how do we do it so that's fair for families and what >> are you looking at those two areas as more like a club an after school club >> any of the middle school students participate in the high school band? >> Yes. >> And so they do they pay the high school

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fee or the no middle school the high school fee. Okay. >> I I don't know. I I I feel like that recommendation might partially be coming from thinking it's going towards transportation. There are other expenses. We we're paying stipens. It is

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it is many hours after school, maybe middle schools weekly, not twice a week. >> Yeah. Middle school, both those middle school groups, well choirs, a little bit of high school, a little bit middle school. They practice once a week. Um and the only performances they do are for the community or for a school event.

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>> W Choir played at National Honor Society. Um, jazz band is playing at jazz night next week and that's that's the majority of their performances. >> There's still line items for those groups. >> What are the current fees for those groups? Right now,

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>> it's all $140 for all music activities. >> And there were quite a few questions this year over Woodwin Choir and Jazz Band of why they were paying the same as a marching band. >> Yeah. And again when we were looking at it trying to understand what are the fees

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why what are we doing and it was it seemed to be that's more of a club you know national honor society or some of those they're not paying fees they're not paying activity fees is this truly an activity that's one one time a week um so

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>> I just think we need to be very careful and if we start calling it a club there's no stipen associated to our club advisor separate ones So like I think the high school has chess club for example, correct? And there is a stipen attached to >> your national honor society has a

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stipend. >> Yeah. >> All all your advisors receive a stipen for >> your activities. A >> lot of Yeah. So I I mean I love the idea of not charging the middle school or

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charging significantly less like you're recommending for the athletics too just to encourage them to get started with it like to get excited about it to you know and if they aren't traveling and they don't go any like I don't know I like the idea of maybe it

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can't be zero but maybe it could be something less but I like cultivating that and in the for athletes too like keeping lower for the middle school, although they do go to away games, so they do travel. Um, so there should be something, but I like that it I like the

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idea of minimal. >> When it comes to um uniforms for middle school athletes or so, we have we have middle school, we have JV, and varsity, right? Right. For many sports, >> do you purchase new uniform? I can't

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remember. Do we purchase new uniforms for the middle school or do they get like hand-me-downs? >> Both. >> It used to be hand-me-downs combo, but it's probably >> I think I don't know if I've spoke about this before, but I know there's that uniform cycle.

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>> Um I've looked at the need and I've done a deep dive because there is a need for certain teams to have un proper uniforms that fit all students. Um, so we're kind of next year on the three schools that three sports, excuse me, that we propose new uniforms for, one of them is a

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middle school sport. Um, because they they don't have uniforms that are appropriate for them. Um, now I just think it's ve very murky to talk about uniforms and then user fees because I think that could give like she mentioned

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families a false impression that I'm paying this so I should get a brand new uniform that's the exact size I want for my child and things like that. So that's where it gets a little tricky. >> Well, um, >> I'll stop you there. If a family is paying a user fee, the expectation

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should be that they're getting something out of that user fee. It shouldn't be that it's just they're just giving a a an alm to the to the school district. >> Correct. We just said let's not tell them that it's just for transportations. Let's not tell them it's just for it's for everything. Understood. And it's a

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minor minor offset of the overall cost of this. So yes, if a parent is paying to for their student to be in a sport, they should have an expectation. They should absolutely have an expectation that the transportation is going to be

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there. They should have an expectation that they're going to have proper uniforms, and they're going to have they should have an expectation that they'll have a a a coach or or a teacher or or an instructor. That is all proper expectations. So I don't want to keep saying that we shouldn't be saying this

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cuz we don't want the parents to think this. No, no, no. This is a additional tax for parents specifically of the school district that by and large already pay taxes to have this to fund this budget which we worked very very

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hard at coming in at to very you know very minimal increases but it's still high and it still takes up a huge amount of the overall town's budgets. So, it's an additional fee, tax, whatever you want to call it, but it's more money out

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of the out of the parents pocket. So, you know, when we're talking about increasing and you know, who's getting, you know, is it fair for everyone to should we increase everybody? I mean, I've already made it clear I want to do away with >> user fees completely. Um, I think that

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it's just an over it's just an excess tax um for for parents. Uh, I understand where where it goes. I understand that it goes to transportation. I understand that it goes to, you know, everything that's involved with it. Um, but you know, and I understand everybody else does it for some reason except for

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Grafton. >> They're actually adding. They're in the in the process of of changing that as well. >> They have every sport under the sun, don't they? Yeah. That's amazing. >> I mean, just keep in mind that everything we're talking about is extracurricular. Okay. So all of our

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money, tax money, budget money, revenue from our towns, revenue from the state is funding our our budget. >> Mhm. >> Um extracurricular means it's beyond the educ educational. >> Yeah, I understand what extracurriculars means. But

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>> so I think just a blanket statement of a user fee offsets the extracurricular activities period. Not transportation, not uniform, not it's just it offsets the extracurricular activities. And if your child's participating, that's where that that need comes from.

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>> I understand it's a necessary evil, but at the same time, >> in the in the world of public education, user fees are are newer to the world of public education. How long have we had user fees? Less than less than I'll say less than 26 years.

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>> Yes. >> Matt 2004. >> What's that? >> I think they started in either 2003 or 2004. >> 200. It's not >> it's not Yeah. So I I'm gonna I >> Jane's video >> the elderly states person in this group

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>> user fees may be new to Blackstone normal new you know whatever or new to this area or new to Massachusetts but as a uh soon to be next year 50-year high school graduate um my folks paid user

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fees for us to be on athletic teams and for my um sister to be in music events. So they're not new. They're not >> They're not new >> to this district. >> Yeah. >> To most districts, too. I mean, I would I would venture to guess that it's most districts. >> So, you'd like to find a way to cut user

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fees. >> I mean, I I know we're all we're looking at how to >> how to, you know, conservatively raise them. And I can resp I understand. Don't get me wrong, I understand why we need user fees. You know, I'd hate to see any athlete or musician not have

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the the sport or the, you know, the music uh um avenue that they can go down um because we're cutting because we cut fees and I would never want to put my name on that. I'm just saying, you know, in my heart of hearts, I wish we didn't have to do this. >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Right. >> I think you summed it up though, but you it's a necessary evil. Correct. I would love to be able to open up everything to every kid and we've got five kids interested in volleyball. Oh, let's throw a volleyball team together or what? Like I wish we didn't have to do

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this, but I don't know. >> I don't know a different way around it, >> but how do we make it? How do we make it equitable? How do we make it equitable so that a family

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is not a burden to any a family who has children with different interests that want to do music and sports and >> but can we talk about the expense? >> Is there any Mr. Shaver? I was wondering if there was anything you wanted to add

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to the the request for the increased fees. There's other other fees. I don't I honestly don't know the answer for like say baseball or track, but this isn't all the music family pays.

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>> No, I I told Kristen and Kathy heard me say this about five times when we met uh last week. I hate to ask our parents for anything more. Um it just to me it and especially it, you know, Kathy's been wonderful about working with families.

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My fear is the sticker shock of a parent not even getting to Kathy and being like, "Oh, they went up." In that case, no, you're not doing it. Not even like, "Oh, let's talk to Kathy and see if we can work something out." That's my fear. Um because, and I will be honest, for both winter percussion, Wintergard, not

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Jazz Man, but winter percussion, Wintergard, and March Man. This is just one fee of others, right? >> Um our music association picks up a lot of the cost especially for winter percussion and Wintergard, but there's still there's still a lot of expenses with those activities. So, you know, this is an increase in that fee, but

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then they still have these other ones. So, and like I always said, I I I understand what everyone's saying. I understand that, you know, there's there's a revenue gap here. Just hurts. I like I said, if I lose one kid, that's going to stick with me a long time. >> What average? Like, they buy uniforms

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every year. So, they average 100 bucks, 250. Um, so for with the the good graces of the school committee, I think two years ago, um, we added a line item to help offset cuz the marching man uniforms were 225 a year. Um, and we

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last year were able to keep it. So families only paid 100 bucks. Um, winter percussion changes every year and Wintergard does as well. Uh, winter percussion this year, what that come at? Uh, 115 I think. Um, winter guard I

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think was uh 85. Um and and obviously those families keep the uniform. What they do with it, I have no clue, but um they do get to keep the uniform because they paid for it. Um but it is an additional cost. >> So those fees kind of bring it to what the sports fees are

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>> because there's also band camp fee >> camp fee >> and then a bus fee for >> national championships. So there's several things. In talking to Todd, I think that's why we there was originally our conversation was do we match them, right?

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>> Do we make them exactly the same? And talking to Todd, there is differences and so we need to kind of factor in those differences. I think trying to up some and let go of the middle school andor the jazz middle school jazz woodwin choir was our way of trying to

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help everybody like increase those that are playing but decrease the ones that we feel aren't using we keep saying it transportation as much that we had to base it upon something so that that was our basis but hoping that we were helping but I would I would hate for any

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student to not play music or sports for any reason because of these increases. Someone made the comment, you know, costs are going up. It's um like you said, it's like you have to make a choice. You can't play both. So,

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it is nice to keep them low. >> I did see the number. I did I did add up your um revenue of all of both of them together. What it would bring in your approximate it's a little over 46. Okay. >> For what?

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>> And that's if we had all the recommendations, >> the changes in the revenue, the how it would change our revenue. >> That's if we went with all of >> Yeah, that's if we went with all what we just talked about. Yeah, it's 46465. >> Still doesn't cover all of the athletic

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transportation, >> right? >> Still doesn't pay the bus. >> I'm just throwing the number out there to see if it's worth it. You know what I mean? just fig >> and I think we we try to do it by which line items so that if we say okay we want to do this but we we don't want to do the family cap that's not something we don't want to merge them then what is

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the change there then that so we're trying to make all those changes in revenue tiered so that you can say yes to one thing no to something else um or if you want to change the amounts or think that's too much I mean it's this

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is after meetings what we felt was fair but we do think that something has to happen or >> Elizabeth is it I I know you've had the monumental task of dealing with CMAC in the going out to Boston going out here

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and I know you spoke before where that's going to be curtailed this year in some way is are we looking at closer >> like scheduling for next year >> correct >> um every team that I've done so far is with an exception to a game on either

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side is pretty much 50/50 home in away um making a >> as far as the the >> travel >> travel >> they still have to go >> distance are they still going like >> half the season yeah >> so they are going >> and I don't have a choice so it's every two years so next year our teams within our conference will be going to the same

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places but I'm making efforts for the non-division games to not be going as far um we don't need to um we can stay or there's a lot of really good teams around here that can that can help our teams so >> trying to balance it that way the conference is not changing.

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>> To that point, I know last year there was mention that there was because of how the schedules ran, everyone was going everywhere. So, I did look at what the cost of transportation was last year compared to this year. Last year, we spent $189,000

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in transportation compared to our estimate of 121. So, with what Elizabeth has done, and again, that was two seasons that the first season she didn't control. >> Good scheduling. that is that is the savings that has happened. Now again, I

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don't know if we're going to get much more savings. Um, but just so you know, based on how Elizabeth has run it, she has done an incredible job in trying to maximize the money that we have to in and be able to >> see is unfortunate. They don't think

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about these small districts at all. Yeah, I feel torn a little bit because from the competitor and athlete side of myself, >> I watch the games and what's going on and I mean, we got it right in terms of everybody is has a chance to win every game they play competitive. It's

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awesome. >> Um, the other side of this brain that I'm in here, the school committee financially, >> it's really it's really hard to be a little town like ours. Um, >> and to keep up with the schools that don't have the challenges. Um, and I mean it's I we sit here and we're we're

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talking about increases and none of us want to do it. Like I I went to the school. I did band, right? I was a first trumpet. I still remember it. I did sports. Like I want to help all families and get every kid to be that, right? We want every kid involved in something. We

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don't want to hurt any any kid. We just need to try to figure out how to make it. Do we have a do we have a sense of the impact if we if we raise $25 per as as recommended here and raise the

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music as recommended here but we cap it 900 combined music in do we know what the impact there would be? Uh, no, I don't I don't know that >> we can. Yeah, I know on the bottom of the change in in revenue, the first line

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will show you that 200 the increase in $25 um was for athletics was the $10,425. >> But the cap piece, I don't know that we have a sense of that. >> And that'll change. That'll Well, I

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mean, they all change, but >> the cap Yeah. There were only well there were 14% of people who reached the cap. >> Yeah. When it was combined before I just question enrollment numbers

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changing the cap. You know what I mean? What if they need that? What if they need to hit that cap and that's why their kid plays that extra sport or that's why their kid adds on the band? >> You know that's a good point. Never even

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thought of that. Well, seriously though, >> go out and run track. >> No, seriously. >> No, seriously though, >> you get to run it for free. Um, what if they want to do that and then now they're not

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>> I don't know. I I'm struggling with the cap. I'm sorry. Even the cap for both. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's And if we're going to do this, I I mean, the effort is made like only increase the fee by $25. Only increase this music fee by $10. I think I would be more comfortable

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increasing one portion of this. Like if we're increasing user fees, okay, increase that without adding in the >> getting away the I mean like raise the cap but not >> Yeah. raise to match the individual score. >> Don't raise the cap but not separate

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music from >> Can I just ask a question just like to get a pulse check? I guess if we went to something like a per season cap and kept it combined, do you feel like that is fair, would that be something that you think is more

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>> Well, are the seasons are the seasons compatible? >> Well, that's the thing. So, so music we have fall, our winter season goes starts when the sports winter season does ends in midappril and then we don't have spring season. >> Yeah. Okay. So, you don't have >> Okay. So, that wouldn't match a good

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idea. I wouldn't be opposed to raising the cap if you're raising the fee. You It would make sense to raise the cap because they're going to get to the cap quicker if you don't >> numbers on both. >> But just 900s >> and not eliminating the joint. >> Yeah. No, not eliminating joint cap.

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>> No. >> Raising the cap. >> Sorry. >> No, I'm sorry. >> Try to figure this out. Um what you just said with the per season fee. I know it doesn't line up, but if you can give us what that would look like as far as impact to these overall

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numbers. And then also I mean I think 900's too much for sports u for for a cap. I think that and it unless as if it's on its own. What if it was combi? What if it was combined with

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>> I still think it's too much, but um >> you know if there was if it was it's a little bit more to easier to swallow if it's combined. Do you want us is the thought that we're going to pull some more numbers and come back to this for the next meeting and

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have >> so in that >> so if that is the case what information would you like in in where do you want us to pull the >> So what so what would be the impact of $25 for per athletic

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>> team whatever it is >> she gave that right >> but not but not uh and keeping middle school, whatever you recommended. And then the I don't I guess if it's $25 for sports,

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why are we jumping $40 for music? I I would do 25 like across the board there for marching band, but not necessarily for the winter guard and the jet. Like keep the $10 for that one. >> Can I just I don't know. it just why is

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one going up 40 and one going up 25 but then what would that be with a combined cap of >> I'm going with 750 >> do we have do we have that answer why we're going up 40 for marching band as >> because and Todd can speak from his point of

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view I guess our thought was a marching band travels as much as an athletic team really I mean and over the past few years we've actually limited where we were going cuz when we used to travel, we went way out to Connecticut. Um, and I know we're not going as far anymore.

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So, from both sides, like I know the middle school boys and girls travel together, so we're trying to save money there. Um, the marching band isn't traveling as far out for all their competitions. Like, these two have done a really good job of re realizing that transportation and going far is is um

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expensive. Um, but when we looked at it, 10 competitions for a marching band is somewhat in keeping with an athletic season. So for them to be at 140 and for us to say just because it's athletics we're going to move you to that you're at 200. We were trying to even it out a

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little bit comparing the two and I I I don't know maybe I shouldn't be comparing the two. >> Yeah. >> Did we set the family cap to 600 so that it was after three sports? >> No. Because football is more expensive. So it would have been it was >> it was affordability.

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>> It was just a number. I I would >> I'm just trying to do the math on the on the music side. It looks like if we change if we change the user fee for jazz, middle school jazz and wood,

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we're like $4,800 negative. >> Mhm. >> But release the family cap. We'll It says we'll have 37. We're like $1,100 short. Just I don't know. I >> I I feel like maybe those two should be looked at like sideline cheer just a

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less a lesser of a fee. >> I'm going to throw a little wrench into that comment then cuz I >> I would think as far as >> the athletic side of it. I do have a music question though too, but athletics I think middle school sports should be one fee and then all JV varsity sports should be a different one. And I would

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include sideline cheer in with that just because of uniform cost. They are now um the last couple of seasons I believe the cheerleaders were traveling to football away football games. >> So I would kind of group them together. But as far as music, can you be in more

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than one music program per season? >> Yes, we have kids. We have several kids that do uh high school jazz band and winter percussion. We have a couple kids that do high school jazz band and winter guard. We have kids that do woven choir

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um and actually woven choir, jazz band and winter percussion. So yes, you can do several things >> and they can play basketball. >> That's what I was trying to figure out like basketball >> the cost for one >> music like I mean athletics is you pick one sport and that's what you have for

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that whole season. But >> my fear with eliminating the middle school fee for music is there are many times kids are asked to do high school jazz band or and is parent going to say no but are they going to say no I'm not paying or is that going to happen too if

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you do a middle school fee for athletics and a high school fee >> and and by the way we moved our eighth grade two years ago. They used to be middle school so now they're all high school. There's eighth grade still. I'm just like you're kind of co causing like lines in the sand for

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>> participation >> with the cost associated to it. >> I don't think in terms of I don't think if if a kid was invited to participate in high school jazz ensemble, they would bat that just because of the fee >> only because it's a competitive group

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and the middle school jazz band only plays a couple concerts in the school. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I still I like the lower middle school. I mean, maybe sports can't be zero, but

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lower just to cultivate teams like getting people. I mean, it kind of gets to Matt's like we shouldn't have fees. Well, maybe at the younger ones we don't. We cultivate them and then now I've become this great track star and now I still want to do it. Now, now my parents got to pay 300 bucks. I

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>> pay to play. >> Pay to play. Yeah. So, >> I would agree with your proposed changes. >> Need the money. >> Thanks, Chuck. >> Thank you.

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>> Even Even >> like bottom line, we need more revenue. >> Do we get a motion? >> Not wrong. >> Not wrong. >> I just $900. >> You put a lot of thought into it. >> Killing me. >> Much more than we are.

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>> No. I think >> sounds like it is. >> I think we have to talk about it and everyone has to be in agreement and and be happy with the decision >> that we're making. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> can you play over with the cap number? >> Yeah.

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>> So, the cap, what do you want? What do you want us to do? I want you to getting rid of a cap between athletics and band. I don't >> I'll make a motion. We don't have to do that. Second. >> Is that Is that a >> Are you guys set on that as a group? >> Okay.

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>> I don't think you're going to get that. >> So, you would like the cap? >> Is it a real motion? >> No. >> No. No. No. No. We were I mean, do we want does a committee want >> We're not finding consensus for separate caps. >> Okay. So, you'd like one cap that like we have now? >> Yep. >> That is for music and

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>> play with the number. Give us two options and a number. >> Two options. >> Give us two options. Give us a low ball and a high ball. >> 750. And are we okay with athletics with a $25 increase with athletics for

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um all of the high school sports and leaving middle school sports at $200? >> I'm good with a lower middle school. >> Okay. Yeah, but including the >> cheer. So cheer. We want cheer to do a

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$25 increase as well. >> They're traveling now. Yeah, they're expensive. Is cheer 100 right now? >> So, it is 100. I wasn't here in the fall, so I don't really know how it was run. I did ask questions trying to understand sideline cheer. I obviously probably have a very different

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expectation of how it's been done maybe. So, it's kind of resetting that. They didn't travel a lot. She shared maybe a couple times. M >> um >> so it's I think whatever direction we go in it's making sure that the expectation matches matches that

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>> they have competition don't they go to competition >> and not in the fall they they only competition >> do they pay 100 in the spring and 100 in the fall? >> No. So they pay 200 for competition cheer in the winter >> only in the winter. >> They pay 200. >> Are there girl are there cheerleaders that are just sideline basketball and

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they're paying 100 or is it just >> We ran into that. It's funny. We ran into >> because I think there's a certain amount on the >> So you can alternate >> or you could be on the comp team. >> So what user fee do they pay? >> They pay 200 because they have an opportunity just as if you didn't start

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in baseball. You have an opportunity. They're learning the routine. They're going to the competition and if someone gets hurt, they're next in line just like a baseball team would be. So we made that decision that it that no matter what it was their role, it was 200. So the only time we have sideline is fall. >> Fall.

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>> Okay. Talk to me like I'm a child cuz I am when it comes to cheerleading. So we have sideline cheer and we have competition cheer. Those are two different things. Do they currently pay a different fee? >> Yes. >> So the sideline pays 100

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>> right now. And the competition pays >> 200. >> And the competition travels to only their competitions or do they go to basketball games or whatever? >> They do sideline and competition. Correct. They do every home game, girls and boys. >> Basketball.

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>> Yep. And I brought them to like um the Clark tournament. I brought the cheer team to the Clark tournament. Um unfortunately conflicted so they could only go to one of the teams, not both, but they would have gone to both if it was different days. >> Um and ideally playoffs as teams make runs. I would like them to be going to

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that as well. >> All right. >> And they get the same uniform as competition. Chair. The uniform's different. >> I cannot answer. I can't answer that. I can ask the question. I don't know. I'm assuming they were in I'm assuming they were in the cheer uniform for the fall as well. >> Yeah. You know, I'm the I'm asking you

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that only cuz I know you don't you don't know. I'm asking cuz now I'm like when you do the cycle, do they fall together? >> I'm like I didn't know they were different. So >> I know. I'm sorry. I know you weren't here for that. >> I will I will

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>> I'm out of the chair loop too, Jane. So you'd like them to go to 125 and increase just like every other sport. >> Yeah. >> By the Okay. So they'd go to 125. Football would go to 350. All other sports that are at 200 would go to 225.

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And middle school would stay the same at 200. >> Is 350 is that about what football is everywhere? Yeah, >> we actually asked >> people I actually have heard. >> It looks like Bellingham and North uh

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excuse me and Nitmuck both are 350 for football. >> The other schools like Sutton um they co-op. Douglas they co-op. Um Oxbridge does not co-op so they don't charge more but like Sutton and Douglas you they pay

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whatever user fee is just like we do for ice hockey when we go to Bellingham. I was going to ask you 500 Bellingham Terra face. >> So now, so I think we have we're straight with athletics

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now for music user fees. Do we want to look at a comparison or a um or are we okay with the marching band going to 180 winter percussion and guard going to the 150 and the jazz band going

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the high school jazz and the others not removing fees or what do we want if you want me to >> what is the current fee for middle school jazz band and woodwin choir >> everything is the same name as a 140. >> So Woodwin Inquire doesn't The only

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thing that they use is a teacher with a stipen. They don't use busing. They don't have forms. >> Yeah, they don't. >> And they don't Yeah, I think they've done they went to the Millville >> library this year so far. I mean, they're going to do some other things, too.

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>> But would it be fair to compare them then to Sideline Cheer? And >> no, because sideline chair has the ability to go >> they have sideline chair has uniforms. They have they're >> saying price-wise if we were >> Yeah. No, >> instead of the 140 go to like 125.

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>> No, I'm agreeing with the remove the >> remove it. >> Middle school jazz band hasn't had a competition or is not. So neither of these are competitive. Let's let's look at that that way too. Neither of them are competitive. They might right >> just entertaining and learning. >> They only play forth to build. It's a

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community. It's a community. >> Yeah, >> it's a community service really. They play for the senior centers and all that. So, >> full disclosure, I have kids in both. So, I just, you know, but >> and and full disclosure, my kid was the

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one that decided to do woodwing choir >> and winter percussion and you know, so yeah, you can do them both in the same even though he plays clarinet. >> So, Yeah, I I just I I feel like 140 to 180

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is too much of a jump. >> Okay. Well, >> I know what you were trying to do to get >> 140 to zero is too much, >> but I think it's too much. >> Even the transportation is far and again far less than >> it's still offsetting the entire program, though. Yeah. >> So, what about half of

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>> Well, I would do the 25 like we did for all the other things. So do the 140 to 165 and then for the other ones since it's much less travel than any sport any anything just four and three middle school

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>> I'm okay with the 150 >> but the recommendation is to go to zero so >> zero no to go to >> the recommendations for woodwin choir 15 middle school jazz is what they're saying >> sorry Jean I was on the wrong lines >> are you okay with that increase up to

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150 >> I'm on one one out at eight. So I don't >> I agree. >> Yeah. >> And that would be for winter percussion guard high school jazz. >> Yeah. Would be the 150 >> would be 150. >> What is marching band? >> 165. >> 165 for marching band. I

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>> I don't >> And if we are separating out or we're not I'm sorry. >> Disregard. So we will get those numbers for you for the next school committee meeting and then we can do make

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>> make a vote then based on those. Is there any other changes and then the family cap we will do a $900 and $750 for the family cap as a combined. Did you want to see? You seem to be set on these numbers. So, you don't need me to

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run numbers changing the user fees for any of these. So, it's really only the number for how the user cap >> number would affect us. >> Marching band and the others have changed. Marching band changed 165. Yeah.

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>> But do you do you want to see the change in revenue on any of those or is it just the um user fee caps that you want to see the numbers on? I think I want to see the the caps. I think you already presented us with the

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changes with the revenue changes here. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they're going to change. >> Yeah, they're going to fluctuate. >> Yeah, it it was trying my best to estimate as best. >> The reason I'm asking is cuz the family cap seems to be a low percentage of people, so it might not be worth the

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hike. I could also tell you how many families >> Yeah. That'd be >> actually it affected who actually hit the family cap. >> Yes. >> Might not be worth it. Might also be worth the >> Exactly. >> the optics. >> Exactly. >> You know. >> Yeah.

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>> If we don't have to do it, we don't have to do it. >> Thank you for I know this was a ton of work. There's a lot of numbers here. >> It's a lot of work. >> No te No. >> Thank you. Nobody

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>> just think that after all of the area overrides either go through or don't go through what some of these >> well I mean >> all right >> thank you very much >> thank you

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$600 >> now we are at reorganization of school committee subcommittes >> and you do have in your packets the committees. They want to move around or what do we

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everyone happy where they are? >> I'm sorry. Pardon? We're looking at the subcommittees. There's a a sheet that lists what everyone is currently doing. >> How have we done this in the past? People express their interest and then we have a new list next time. >> Yeah. >> Well, we say

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Exactly. Does anyone want off of something that they're currently on? Do we want to start there? >> But are we we're going to go through every single one or do do we want to submit or >> Oh, it's up. >> I don't know. It would just make it quicker tonight. >> Do you want you to say finance? Anybody

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coming off or going on? >> Does anyone want to join finance? >> Does anyone want to leave finance? >> Good as is. Building committee. Anyone leaving or want to join? as is negotiations.

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>> I would come off. >> Wants to leave. Matt, Jane, and Dan would stay. >> Can I just ask do what is our next unit? >> I don't think we have one this year to see. >> Is it this year? >> It would be C. >> In the fall. >> In the fall. Correct. Yes.

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>> I can't do that one anyway. So, >> anyone else want to join that? >> It's so fun. Chuck. >> All right. Policy. >> I will come off. >> Anyone else?

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>> I'll get go on negotiations. >> All right. Thanks, Chuck. >> All right. Peer pressure. I'm sorry. Thank you. All right. Policy just everyone's leaving. Everyone else is staying. Anyone else want to join?

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Looks good. Superintendent Evaluation Committee. >> I will join. >> Erin, I thought you ran that. >> It was I got off it last year. >> Oh, you did? >> It was great. >> The whole year without it. Just kidding. >> Any other movement

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and sick bank? >> Got to tell you, Sick Bank is the one to be on. But that's the one to be on. People, >> you come 15 minutes early, like twice a year. >> Only what I was signing up for this year. God. >> All right. So, we can make those two changes. Three changes. Yeah, >> they're all Aaron.

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>> Erin's out. Chuck's on. Erin's out. Eron's on. Aaron >> Charles's added negotiation. >> Glad we got that over with. >> Done. >> And then if the end has any changes, he can do that on the side. >> All right. Um Jane, did you mention um

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the student who came? Did we want to add the health policy? We need to a new committee for like the health. you mentioned. >> So, we are required to have a I don't know if it's called a health and wellness or a health um but a committee

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and it includes the school nurse. It includes somebody from athletics. It includes somebody from the dining services. Um I know it's not called dining services here, but you know what I'm talking about. Um and somebody from the school like I think there were two of the last time I remember going Jack

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Keef was on the school committee. So what does that tell you? Um but you know we met regular like we had policies we had to make sure certain things were happening and >> um but that's where the mental health >> the the the young person who came to

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talk to us that is the group that would consider that. So we need to get that group together and we also >> need to get the um regional agreement group. I know we picked people. >> Dan said

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Milville. I think Blackstone chose their representatives. I think we were waiting >> um for Milville with the new members. So >> I know Kristen was on it, but I don't know if they had a second yet. So Okay. >> Yep. >> I know Dan is working on that. >> Was on agreement. >> I know I was one, but I don't know who

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else it was. >> I think was Dan on it. I think it was Yeah, I think it was one was it? I think it was Jane. It was one from Blackstone, one from Milo. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> What was your thought one called that you were talking about?

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>> It's like health and well I honest I have >> Yeah. It's like health and wellness or wellness policy >> said health and wellness. >> It's contractual unit A >> to have something. >> We should have it. It's in the unit A contract.

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>> We should be organizing. >> Yeah. just saying that >> does anyone want to be on this health and wellness whatever the actual name is any volunteers. >> Well, what I can do is I can bring the actual requirements for this and then

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that may be helpful decide what the requirements are and how many. >> Yeah, >> it was it was like they were very good discussion like a lot of stuff but kind of >> be with the nurse, the athletic director and the food services. >> True. But are there students? I don't

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think there >> um >> I don't I'll look into it. I'll get it on the next one. >> There might have been students >> student rep. >> Um but it's not the athletic director. It's like the gym teacher. >> Yeah, she was. >> Okay. So, it's not the director.

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>> Well, they're the wellness teacher, so that makes sense, >> right? >> And um >> why do I think am I miss am I confusing this? I thought it was wellness of the workplace. No, no, no. It's definitely not that. >> It's different cuz it was >> I know what you're talking about the

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safety and like when it came I don't think there's been any meetings with that for years. Yeah. >> Yeah. But I'll bring that I we will have that on the uh one of our agendas to >> and I can look I can look back too I'm sure. But >> all right. Yeah.

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>> School committee packets. >> You might Dan that was something Dan wanted to add. Maybe we hold off until he either arrives or we move it to the next meeting unless you have >> I don't think I have anything but I feel like I mentioned it to him. It was more like not to print all this paper. >> Oh. >> Oh, I brought that up a couple years ago

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>> and that's what I said. I said I know Tara's in favor of it. I'm in favor. >> It came up to the um the building committee. I was kind of like I hate all the paper that we get for that. Some of those packets are ridiculous. >> I got to like pay a shred company for what I bring home. Like >> I don't know if we can just be selective

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on what we want. If anyone has an opinion, do you love having a full packet? Would you rather have less only like certain matters we get printed? >> I would like a full packet. >> Maybe we'd all have to like give our preference. >> Mhm. >> And then I don't know.

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>> Otherwise, we would probably just have to have everything always presented. >> Well, things like this could be presented up there, >> right? We don't need to get this printed. You know what I mean? Even I think a lot of Kristen's like the budget entries we could just presented and then it's in a it's available online. It

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would be scanned like there'd be a packet that you could >> like anything that's a request or like a new item or something to Erin's point we probably should have but something like this is just pretty much can go right up there on a slide. >> So would you like Kristen and I to go through the general items that we

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normally do and come with a proposal to say this would this make sense for you? Give a couple of options of what you're thinking. >> Yep. That'd be perfect. So, we can move that to the next with those details >> because even like the when people want to like print space or we don't all need handouts of that,

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>> right? >> And would it be okay to have the packets sent to you electronically instead of actually delivered as paper? >> Yes. >> And it used to be and at one point that's how we >> and only if we had changes did we get it

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paper for the meeting. Poor dogs wanted to like run outside and play with Scott. >> Well, I I feel sorry for the person who has to come in. >> So, we will we will put some something together for for your consideration. >> Perfect. Okay. Stands here, but

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>> All right. And then we've got the Mystic Aquarium trip. >> Yes. Out of state. >> Oh, we just finished school committee packets. >> Isn't that answer question? Yeah, Jill's but they're going to bring more details for it. >> They're going to bring for you.

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>> Of course, I didn't match up tonight. >> All right. Is there um discussion on the Mystic Aquarium trip? We have going there. >> So, it didn't say what grade. I was looking at this. It didn't say which grade. So, it says biology, marine biology and zoology.

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>> I think these are two classes that are offered >> at the high school. >> Yeah, it's a high school. It's It's actually part of their grant, one of their grants that they have that they're using grant money to be able to go on this trip. >> Zero cost to the district. A good experience for both classes.

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>> Is that like a program that do we know that the aquarium offers? Is that like how what was the grant from the aquarium or was it from >> No, it was part of their innovation pathways. >> Oh, okay. >> So that they were using money for that. I believe that was was it the innovation >> and it's connected again to both marine

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biology and zoology. Yeah. So >> is there a motion to approve? Motion by S. I further discussion. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed.

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All right. Motion passes. And I will turn the meeting back over to Mr. Keith. >> Thank you. Summer programming 2025. Summer credit. >> Okay. Mary, do you want to come on up? So, we wanted to give you an overview of

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our summer programming and then also talk a little bit about um our summer school credit recovery just to give you some updates on that and then we'll get into our summer sports uh proposal for a summer sports camp. Um

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Elizabeth, you want to come up on now since it's all it's kind of all in one and join Mary so she's not alone? So, in your packet, you'll see um we put together um just an overall what our programs are. Mary's going to talk a little bit about that. Then we'll get into the second um handout that talks

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about the summer uh recovery. So, a lot of the programs are staying the same because they've been working really well. So, the um the math and literacy explorers group that we had last year for K1 and 2 will still be the

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same thing. uh they they'll do math and literacy and then one hour of some sort of an enrichment. Last year we did art. So that that's what we're kind of looking for for them. Um and that'll be

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for uh from 8 to 11:30 and Tuesday through Thursday. That will be at Millville. And then we have CCLC which will be here at Hartnet uh 8 to two and grades four to seven.

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Middle school credit recovery and high school credit recovery. We always did those together. We've only actually had only one time a kid that a student that we had for uh middle school. So mostly it's high school credit recovery and

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it'll be run a little bit differently. So I'll go back to that one. Extended school year will be at um also here and um that will be from K to 22 years old. Secondary will be 8 to 11 and then

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elementary will be 9 to 12 >> and that the pro that program for our um uh ESY for special education some of the programs for some of our younger students will remain at Milbury and some of our older students will come to school. >> Mhm. And for ELLL enrichment grades 1 to

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four, we're going to make it because we have not um we're not having the bus this year. So this we're going to just make that for 2 hours instead of having them here for four. And um I'll probably be

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running that one. And then we have So Christina started this last year and it was a it was really a success. So we added it into our summer program for uh for everyone. Um so she did families

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were invited to participate in a summer literacy institute where teachers so for example um the the STEM teacher ran a little bit of a STEM program but centered it around a children's book. So, and we ran that the teachers chose

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what day of the week they wanted to do it and we changed it up for different times of the day. So, sometimes it would be offered in the morning, sometimes maybe right after like in the afternoon and sometimes in the evening if parents are working and and all the families

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were invited to come together like as well. It wasn't just for the kids. So, I'll go back to uh credit recovery. We have been looking into this and I've been uh speaking with other um assistant

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superintendent and curriculum directors in the around the different districts. And so we're going to go with um with a um a virtual program. So we'll only have a few teachers. We'll have um English,

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math, and science teacher here, but we're going to it's a a program um that we're going to try to use that's been very successful. Um it's called Egenuity. We It's through Imagine Learning and we've used that for Imagine Learning for our ELLL programs before.

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So, they're good company. And um but we were considering that we would uh require families to pay instead of um just offering it for free. Egenuity is a a

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good price. And um so I looked around. I did a little bit of research and there's quite a few schools in the in the area that pay have the families pay for this. So just wanted to see what you thought about. Mary, you're not recommending. We

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have some other types of supplementary like extracurricular activities. >> No, this is just for this is just for credit recovery. Everything else would be still no fee. It would just be credit recovery. >> And we haven't gone to 100%. What have

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we used for credit recovery in the So credit recovery is for someone who was not able to complete their I'm using a topic but English course >> right >> so what have we used for them in the

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past to meet the requirements of their ninth grade English or 10 like what have somebody taught them something or >> Yes we we hire all since I've been here teachers we've been h we've hired teachers to to to run credit recovery for any of the courts and and also

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virtual because some of the classes I haven't been able to find a teacher. So, history, Spanish. So, it we've it's been hybrid since I've been here >> and and other institutions, other schools are finding that sticking

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somebody on a computer for 4 hours a day >> going to let them recover their >> It's actually two. So it's 4 hours because like some we have some students that fail more than one subject. So they would it's two and two. So it would be 2

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hours a day. And it isn't just being on a computer. They it's it's um it's more interactive than than you think. It's not just a getting on a computer. I hear I understand what you're saying though. I I hear you. I'm just I you

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know I >> so what I will say >> I sees these students every single day of my working days. um somebody who wasn't already successful, we need to find ways to help them be

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more successful. Not necessarily, but but it's working. It's working at a lot of places. Sounds like so. >> Yes. >> And Mary, there will be staff there. Students need assistance to work with them >> that are specialists in, you know, in in the core content.

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>> So, they're coming here to do it or they're doing it? >> No, they can't do it at home. So there's the building. >> Yes. So I I tried that once >> and that wasn't very successful. So we last year when we did do the hybrid, they had to come in and do it in with a

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teacher in the um in the library and >> we monitored them and also tutored them when they needed help. So, but this program that I'm going to try to do this year, they actually also have videos and tutors and um that the kids could use

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even if they wanted to grab like go home and try to use uh do this as well. >> Does this have built-in assessments that you know that they achieve? >> And and it also it it it aligns with um with mass standards and the mass

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curriculum. What's the um what's the co the cost compared to when we're paying the teacher here? >> It's way less >> and it's less cuz we're charging them or is it way less? >> It's if even without a charge.

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>> So it's it's a it's it's $120 per family. And that would be if you failed if you failed English and math. Let's say it would still it's just those it's not for each subject. >> Was there any fee prior when kids came

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for credit recovery? >> I'm sorry. >> Did we have a fee prior? We haven't had a fee since um co before co >> I think was it like 25 before >> in the past they used to I think it was it was more than that it was

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significantly more than that but I don't believe we've had a fee for probably since right before co it went away after that >> are we able to find that fee >> I mean we already paid for them to take the class once >> I yes >> and and and I feel like something like

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this is going to give them more opportunity to to reach what they need. >> So I also think that it might give them incentive not to get to this point. >> Yeah. >> So I I when I spoke with the guidance counselors here that was

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they they would like to an answer so that they could start to reach out to some of the families. >> And if a student can't pay or what if a family can't pay? >> They go they go through that process again. >> Oh, it's the same process. But but what if they

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>> do they get a choice? >> They don't get a choice. They don't graduate, >> right? >> Well, they would have to take the class again. >> So there are kids that don't come to credit recovery that they have to just take it the following year.

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>> They're see graduating. >> They do. Yeah. >> Then you're paying. >> So there's an option for them if they choose to choose 121. Yes, >> I'm all for paying. >> My kids come to the service. >> Pay for your mistakes. >> They've been given the course once with

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lots of >> Yes. opportunities along the way if they needed it. >> Absolutely. >> In more ways than one. So, yes. Can they choose to go to another district or go to another credit recovery program or do they have if

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>> if I recall I >> So when I spoke that's a good question years ago Matt they years ago I I'm not saying that you were part of this group at all. So years ago there were students who would go to Bellingham because we didn't say it was a foreign language that we couldn't offer. They would go to

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Bellingham or Winsake but it was a school-based program. To my knowledge, we've never allowed students because these programs didn't say, "Oh, just go do any online thing and we take it. It has to be >> but we ha, you know, we'll have it here." Um, and with this online program, what's good is if you have a kiddo who

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needs to take chemistry, we could look at the program because it is hard to get those staff in here, but I I do know in the past it was Bellingham and one socket that >> So, Bellingham's using this program, too. So it wouldn't help if they >> No, I was just wondering if they had if

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there was other if there was other opportunities. >> No, that's a good that's a good question. Um if it I mean maybe if the times were like better or you know if like let's say a student was working in the morning and they offered it in the afternoon. >> Um but I would say like we could always

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work with those students. I did we did work with a student that had to go away out of state for the for the summer and we I you know we worked with him. Um so I mean we'll it's it's not set in stone but for the most part they have to come

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in >> but like it's credit recovery it's because you didn't do what you were supposed to be >> right and that's why they have to be here. >> They have to get up in the morning and >> they have to be here. So, I make a motion we accept the summer summer

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summer credit recovery program as presented with the fee to the >> Do we need to accept all of the summer programming that Mary just presented or just the >> No, I think it's well because there's a fee involved with the fee as

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>> Yeah, I second Erin's motion. >> Motion made by Aaron, seconded by Carrie. Any further discussion? Uh, how just are you going to start letting the families know now? And >> so I won't, but the um the guidance

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counselors will. Yeah. >> Okay. And just to reiterate that there is an opportunity for families to >> um if they receive like reduced lunch and all that, they don't they don't pay for this. Correct. Yeah. >> Okay. Just want to be clear on that.

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>> I um Yes, I will. I I mean we we'll I will work with the guidance counselors and and and with um with the principles on this, but of course if kids if there's a need, we will definitely address that need. >> Any further discussion?

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>> All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Any oppose? It's unanimous. The eyes have it. >> And then we'd like to go on to our athletic summer camp. So, we're looking at Elizabeth and I, we had a had a conversation about what's been happening in the past and we're hoping to see if

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we can expand this year. So, if if there's interest, so if you want to talk a little bit more. >> Yeah. So, I'm hoping this is just a little small piece and we can grow it for for the following summer. Um, so I'm proposing it to be the first week in August. So, it's a Monday to Thursday,

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August 3rd to August 6th. Um, the timeline of it, it's after CCLC. So, if students want to be able to do both, they can do both. Um, because we want them to be able to get involved with everything that they they choose to do. So, it helps with that. And then it's a nice little twoe break after for all of

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our sports before they come back to school and they kick off um >> all of their seasons. >> Um, so I'm I was going to originally run it as a full day camp, but I just thought in August it gets hot. Um, so

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it's better to keep it in the morning and and allow them to play their sports and learn their craft before it gets really really hot. Um, for safety reasons. So, and I apologize, I didn't put the grades on here. Um, so I am thinking of doing it grades 2 to six.

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>> Um, why? I really want to get our little kids involved. I want to help them learn the sport. I want our high schoolers to have the opportunity to be leaders and role models and and help give back to the sport. Um, and I want my varsity

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coaches to run to run the camps because their face is the program, right? I want them to learn the kids' names. I want the kids to meet the coach, meet the players, come to our games and look forward to being a part of of our programs eventually. Um, >> Elizabeth, this wouldn't then being 2

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through six have any conflicts with >> that was where I was going. So, because I want my varsity coach to be running it and I want my athletes to be involved, um, there's a lot of coaching out of season rules that you really have to be careful with. Um, so grades 2 to six are

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not involved in our high school athletics at all. If I go to seventh grade, that's when it becomes really tricky. Um, because our seventh graders participate in JV a lot. >> I want to stay away from that. Um, I also, again, this this camp for me is

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getting getting our kids and our community involved and trying to teach the sport rather than help our athletes get better at their sport. >> Elizabeth, can I make one note? >> Yeah. >> Because of that out of season um rules and stuff, uh, coaches can't make it mandatory for

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the varsity players to be there that week. >> They won't. And I've already spoken to them. I think a great way to do it. So, kids, they work in their summer, maybe rotate a couple days. Kids have Monday, Tuesday. A couple kids have Wednesday, Thursday just to >> be different faces and and get involved. >> We do summer lunch.

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>> We do. Yes. Breakfast and lunch. >> Yeah, we do. >> Yes. All of our programs. >> Yes, it'll be a grab and go. All of our programs throughout the summer, including the um that first week in August, we'll have breakfast and lunch. >> I apologize. I part of the state. >> Yes, it is. >> The the summer programs going into

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August. >> Elizabeth's pro. Well, yes. One of the our programs has additional week and Elizabeth will be the first. >> The other ones just go to the end of July. >> Yes. So, I've worked with food services. They're going to provide they're actually going to come to every location that our teams are in. Um, and they're

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going to provide right away grab-and-go breakfast when we're doing check-in. That way, the kids can eat. Um, they can have breakfast and we'll kind of just walk them through their day. Um, and then at the conclusion, I'll go through the timeline, but at the conclusion when they're packing up, they'll get a grab-and-go lunch as well. So they'll be

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provided a breakfast and a lunch. Um and then the other thing is no cost to participate. So it's it's going to be a free athletic camp for for all students in our towns that that go here and want to be a part of it. Um and then they're going to there's going to be a registration process. It's going to be

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similar to how you would register for a sport here just to make sure that we understand allergies and certain things like that. So they will register. Um, I also understand that there might be a kid who wants to try both sports. Um, and I'm totally open with working with

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those families. So maybe they do. We register them two days for basketball and two days for um, baseball or however it may be. So we'll work with those families, too. Um, going into it. So the sports we're offering, it's a little bit small. Again, it's not every every

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sport. It's just what we think just start this and get the ground running and expand on it. So, I've talked to coaches and I know I have coaches that want to give back and kids that want to give back for these programs. So, this is where I want to start it. So, it'll be basketball, both boys and girls. Um,

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football, soccer, both boys and girls, field hockey, cheer, um, baseball and softball. Um, locations. So, trying to think about helping out food services as they're going to be kind of moving around different

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locations. So, what makes the most sense to us is basketball and I love that kids at the younger levels will have the opportunity to play in our high school court. I think it's really cool. Um, so we'll run basketball there. Um, football will be up at the field where they where

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they play their games. Soccer, both boys and girls will be at the JFK, so that big space there for soccer will use that space. Field hockey, the lower field, so by like the baseball field down below, they'll be there. Um, baseball and

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softball. I I I would like to put baseball here. Um, I think they're going to be little. There's a little league field at JFK, so they're littles, right? They don't need to be on a big field. So, I think that space would be would be ideal. Um, and then softball. I think I like the idea of having them together

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and both at JFK, but we'll also have the ability for our softball field, too, if we need to. Um, so that could go either way. And then cheer at the high school in the cafeteria. So, they're little, so we won't have a concern with stunts and things like that. So, the height of the ceiling isn't isn't a problem. Um, I

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have gone in a hund different directions just to make sure I have rain plans um to make sure. I didn't put them on here, but there is a plan. We'll utilize all the gyms and cafeterias and things like that to make sure that if it does rain, we can go inside. Um, I know I'm like a little competitive and I was like, Jill,

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well, if it rains a little bit, like we can go outside. She's like, Elizabeth, they're little. They're not like high schoolers, so I understand. We won't push it. there's there's a rain plan if there needs to be. Um, and then a timeline. So, what I think makes the most sense to get the most out of the

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short time that we have for the camp is they'll check in, they'll get their breakfast, we'll make sure that all kids are there, um, that are registered and help them out if they're in the wrong place or whatever it is. Um, and then for an hour and 15 minutes, we'll do a session one. I think it's important to

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coaches focus on a couple fundamental skills each each day of the camp. Um, so they'll go through those skills, they'll practice, then they'll have a break and snack. It might be hot, they need to drink some water, have a snack, things like that. And then we'll go through

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session two. Um, and that's really, in my opinion, they should start to compete a little bit with each other. Um, and really put the skills that they just learned in the morning in the beginning part to work. Um, so you'll do those mini games and things like that. And then at the end, they'll pack up. We'll

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just make sure they're all good. Um, and then they'll get their grab and go lunch and leave. Um, and I know there has to be a nurse involved. So Jill and I have talked about that. So we'll make sure that that's covered, too, so that there is a nurse available for any student that has that has to be seen. Um, I'll

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be there obviously and I I'm really excited. I think it's small. I'd love it to be more. I think ideally next summer we try to get this started and build. Um, but this is kind of what I'm proposing. >> Sounds good. Is there a limit? You

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putting a limit on any of these or just >> I want the more the marrier. >> Perfect. >> If I could get all of Blackstone Milville kids from two to six, I'd be I'd be jumping for joy. So, no, there's no limit. >> Cool. >> Sounds great. >> I wish I had little ones to send.

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>> You can come volunteer so you can see. >> Yeah. >> Is there any cost of the district on this as far as >> it's what we've already planned for other summer? >> The summer. The summer. Yeah. >> And have we requested to use the um soccer fields at the draft? K.

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>> We were going to go there after I I mean I'm I'll work with them, but I just wanted to kind of see what you guys thought first and then I'll move forward with >> Well, I I thought of that, but wasn't going to say anything, but I It's also at during the week at 8:30 to 12 before things

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>> just check with Celeste. >> When is the 250 the end of July? >> It's the 23rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. July. >> No. 23rd, fourth, and fifth. >> What? Third >> and sixth. Yeah, 27th. >> I said it right. >> Third, too. >> No, fourth, fifth. No. Yes.

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>> 24th, 5th, and >> July. >> Thursday to July. Thank you. Yeah, Thursday to Sunday. >> I'll speak to them right right after. I know if we're good to move forward with it. >> Yeah, that's in it's weekday mornings in the summer. I don't think there's uh

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>> anything going on over there. >> I was I was going to wait till after. I wasn't going to ask. >> And I mean, we're very fortunate. We have so many different town fields too. So we'll make it work with them too to make sure that it makes sense for all of us. >> Let us know if the town gives you any

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we'll use our leverage. >> They've been great to work with so far for me. >> Yeah. >> It's great to great to have your engagement with the towns too. It's big difference. It's a few people from box and Rex have said very positive things.

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>> Thank you. I appreciate it. Do we need to approve this or just as a notification? >> Just information. >> Great. >> Excellent. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> And my final agenda item is this Saturday, I'm going to say this more than once. Rain or shine. Rain or shine.

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We are having our um district of one event. Um it's from 1 to 4. Again, it's at the high school. And I do want to send a huge shout out to Renee Christie and Jen Aszavito. They've been absolutely amazing. They do so much work to plan and prepare for this. Um, and I totally thank them for all their

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efforts. Jackie's been a big part of this as well. Um, I'm going to go through some of the activities just to give people some ideas, but following the event, there actually is I think Maya mentioned it at 5:00 they have a talent show. So, that'll be in the auditorium. But, we have, and I wanted to make sure, and I'm hoping I don't

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miss anyone because our list continue to grow, but we have a lot of community um involvement this year. We actually have more vendors this year. We're hoping no one drops out. Um, we already have a plan. If it rains, we've already come up with that of where we're going to move all the vendors. Um, so right now for

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our community, we I know Uni Bank is involved. Betty's Donuts is making a donation. We have the Milville Library, the Lions Club, our town youth sports, Southwicks is bringing a friend along, South Zoo that day. Um, we have the Roast House who's giving a a food

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donation for a tasting, the senior center um in Blackstone. We have the Blackstone Library, the Millville libraries, the toll booth has a a big raffle um basket that they're donating for that. And we know we have the boys the boy scouts, the girl scouts from both towns. We know the

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semiquincentennial group is coming as well that they have a table. Um so I'm really hoping that no one was left out on that. But some of the activities we have is we're going to have some crafts um at no costs. Um we're going to have some snacks. We're going to have hot

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dogs. I know. Um, we're the district is providing those this year. We're going to have some bake sales. We have cotton. So, our district table, yes, our table for our new high school project. We're going to have some information there. And we're going to have some charger tattoos and some cotton candy available.

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Um, we have some food. I believe um Dr. Rema is doing a food um her food presentation. She's going to be I'm not sure what she's cooking, but she'll have that. We do have the touch truck um from both Blackstone and Milville that is going to be out in the back as it always has. We do tentatively have the

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helicopter, but of course if it rains um the helicopter won't be there and the toucher truck will it won't be out in the back, but we're going to we'll bring some of the equipment. Um and we do have some of the therapy dogs arriving. Um again, crafts, baked goods, scouts, drama club, face painting. Um we have

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some games. I hear there's going to be a giant Jenga and a giant connect four that will will be there. Um, I know our color guard is going to be there. Todd does a music musical petting zoo as he does every year. Um, we'll have some musicians there. We're going to have a coffee station um set up on the inside.

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Um, we do have our um district of one t uh district table with some tours of the high school and we also do have and I don't know that the the frosty truck or the slush truck. So, if it rains, we're just going to move it closer to the building so people could still enjoy that. So, we're hoping it doesn't rain.

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We're keep keep checking all of that, but um we we do have a plan um for Saturday. So again, rain or shine, it would be great if we would see, you know, folks there on Saturday and um that's it.

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>> On to the business office. >> All right. So, we'll start with um the budget journal entries. You'll see that we'll have 10 journal entries, budget journal entries here. Um, we have a couple of grants. We are getting to the end of the year where we're doing a um,

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just review of what we received for grant money and what we've said we're going to spend the money on and if we have to shift that money around um, and and change things a little bit. So, that is what some of those budget entries are as well as just realigning what our

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actual spend is within departments. Um there is one we did purchase a new lawn mower um and that was out of our grounds um groundskeeping line but it did move to a um an asset line. So that was one

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of the budget entries as well. Um if anyone has any questions on those >> um would take a motion to approve the uh budget journal entries. >> So moved. Motion made by Tara Lockan. >> Second.

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>> Second by Carrie. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Any oppose? It's unanimous. >> All right. For a personnel report, we do have five new appointments that are listed here. Um, four resignations and

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one retirement. That retirement 92127. >> Yes, that's what it looks like. So I'm guessing yes. >> Okay. >> Birthdays come into play. So yes, we'll be told >> 26 26. >> I think 26 is right. >> It's September. >> It is this coming. >> Yeah. For this coming fall.

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>> Are we are we >> Yes. >> bringing that person to the end of the year school committee to >> Well, we should because >> unless you'd like to wait. It's just that a whole year would go by when she had retired. So >> we do a special one. Yes. >> Around her time.

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>> At some point. At some point we need to do that. >> All right. And then for the expenditure report, um we're finishing out strong um for our budget. Um right now just focusing on closing out grants, cleaning up our

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accounting system. Um one of the projects that we have um Kathy is working on stale checks. So, if anyone in town or that is watching gets a letter from us, it is not a fishing thing. We are You may have a check that

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has been outstanding and we are trying to see if you'd like to get that check reissued. Um, so we are working on >> Yes, Mr. Ke. >> Yes. >> So, um, so we are working on that. Um you will see um in miscellaneous

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revenue, any of our stale checks or checks that um our batch checks, there were some duplicate checks over the years, you'll see um will end up hitting our miscellaneous revenue. Right now it's at a negative because we're cleaning up some liabilities, but once

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we clear the some of the badge checks, I think we're estimating we'll have unexpected revenue of about $50,000. Um, so that is that will help things out for

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us as well. Um, but nothing else is unexpected at this point. We are just trying to close up the year, see what we have left. We've asked for all spending to kind of come to a halt as of the 15th. Anything after that um is coming through us for requests so that we can

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kind of find out where we where we're landing for the year. >> Um, >> Jill, are you going to come to us? by the next meeting with pre-purchasing requests. >> We're working on our >> we are so there was a pre- purchase that

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we had the pre-purchases for our budget that we're working on. So what was approved with the budget, >> right? >> Is >> but we can't end the year with this balance. >> Correct. So if you if you look from last page onto your END calculation,

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>> yep, we need to spend some money. There is the second where it says with expected says spending. You'll see that we have some of our purchases in there. That'll bring our END down properly. >> Copy to where we'll end the year. >> Okay. I Okay.

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>> Buffering. >> Is there something else that you're >> I just think it should be a little higher. I I don't >> and we can as we get closer we can definitely I think we can kind of go through line by line on >> So you're suggesting $80,000 in pre-purchasing.

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>> Am I reading it wrong? >> The $80,000 is based on what we had approved when we did the budget. There was a listing of everything that we intended on prepaying. >> We've done quite a bit of that pre pre I'm saying prepaying pre- purchasing already. what is left of what was

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approved or when we talked during our budget times is $80,000. So that's what was discussed is nothing new in that number. Um along with that $500,000. Those with those two items would bring our year end to that $1.2 million at

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that 4%. >> Again, I think >> year end balance. >> END balance, I'm sorry. Yes. And >> but if we if we end with a surplus of this year, that money goes into END.

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>> Correct. >> Correct. So I think >> I the plan will be as we get closer to >> to work with school the school committee of where where are we? What do we want to do? Um

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>> I think there's still time. Mhm. >> Are you suggesting trying to get closer to that 5% is where you'd like to get to? Is that >> lower? Not higher. Okay. >> I'm suggesting lower. I'm suggesting maybe a little more pre- purchasing. >> Okay.

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>> To lighten up next year. >> I know, right? Where's Elizabeth's? I'm sure there's things like supplies. We usually do it could be paper goods. It could be. >> So, what we'll do is as we get closer, we can definitely bring those to you. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. >> If you'd like us to.

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>> I just don't want to get too low because we did expect to use so much in next year, >> right? >> Um so that's it's going to be a it's going to be a balance and >> but because either way we're using it to offset a portion. It'll just keep the surplus

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rolling is what our intention usually is. >> So, whatever we pre- purchase right now frees up that line item after July 1. >> All right. I mean, I my personal recommendation

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would be another $200,000. >> That we're still at a million dollars in END. That's We're freeing up next year's budget lines >> for this year. >> I'm not recommending we spend it. I'm saying let's look at we can pre-purchase next year's budget lines

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>> and leaving our END at a million dollars, not one point. >> So, would it make sense for us to go back, take a look at we already know what we're pre- purchasing, see where we are right now because there's still a lot of moving pieces and be able to come back to you and say, "Here, here are

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some options." Okay, I can do that. >> We also typically in June take a look at some purchases. >> Correct. Correct. >> As well. >> That's usually when we >> What did you say? I I just remember I said that like >> Yep. Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We look at certain

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needs that we could >> address, but we we got a What was the offset we used this year? Was it 500,000 END? >> No. >> Um we had >> was 750 at the beginning. >> It was 458,000. Mhm. for this

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>> this coming budget for next year I think it was 500. So yeah so50 >> that's already >> that will be from this from next if we're considering that next to fiscal 28. So >> so e we're still using it no matter what

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to offset the impact on >> uh you know that's the >> I'm not suggesting Christmas in July. I am suggesting pre- purchasing. >> No. >> On >> I think we're on the same page. >> I agree because typically we'll look at June. We'll look at certain things that we

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>> I just want to make sure the eyes were on it. That's >> the eyes are on it for >> next meeting. >> I don't we have another meeting in two weeks. I don't think that there'll be anything for meeting but when we go into June >> do we only have one meeting in June?

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>> I'm living day by day right now. I don't tell you what your team is bringing. >> You're the only one on here, isn't he? >> Okay, facilities. We We good? We facilities. We move on to the facility. Thank you, Scott. >> Good evening. >> Good evening.

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>> So, a lot of updates. Um, as you know, the loading dock handrailing got ripped off. So, we uh did get a quote and we're moving forward to have that replaced. Um, it is a safety issue, so we want to get right on that. uh parking lots were swept for an April

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vacation and they were painted until I had a malfunction with the paint machine. Uh one of the wheels broke off and uh >> now the lines go like this. >> Well, come on now. Let's not I have no practice at walking straight lines. Let's just say that.

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>> No comment. >> Um so yeah, once I get the tire replaced, I'll I'll get back on that. Um, I did receive a new tube for one of the wheels, so I'll fix that. Uh, industrial burner was in to replace the heating coil, so that's completed.

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>> Well, it's good to hear that name again. >> Yep. Yeah. You know, now that summer is here, we won't have to mention it. >> Um, and let's see. Uh, so the backboard, we did take the motor down. I took it apart, uh, removed the broken screw, put

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it back together. We just got to install the motor back on the backboard now. So, that'll be done hopefully by the end of this week. Uh, now that we're moving the district of one inside, it may not happen, but we're working on it. So, uh, did fire up

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the irrigation system on the lower field, uh, soccer field. I don't know if you recall, but back in October towards the end of the soccer season, it stopped working. The pump wasn't drawing water out of the well. Um, I did have A&J well come out and check it out and nothing

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was wrong with the system. So, we're just assuming it was low water. Um, we're hoping it doesn't happen again, but it's been running for a week now with no issues. I do have Turf Technologies coming out tomorrow also to look at a couple of broken sprinkler heads and to start up

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the irrigation system up on the track. I did receive a compliment on how well the grass looks down on the baseball field, which was nice. Um, somebody did say that we cannot put the new building down there because that fields never look so good. So, >> um,

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>> spoiler alert, >> right? >> We're going to have other nice new fields hopefully. Uh, let's see. During vacation, uh, two toilets were clogged up at the high school. Uh, we found plastic containers that were flushed down there. So, we're

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keeping an eye, vigil, an eye out for those containers and hopefully it doesn't happen again. The middle school, the parking lots were also swept and repainted and that's where the tire broke off. You may see a yellow dot in the middle of the parking lot cuz I was trying to save the

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machine. I grabbed the paint nozzle and so um so those are done. Um, I am going to paint the yellow lines too at the high school just so everybody knows the fire lanes, the marching band, uh, practice field lines and stuff. So, that

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will get done. Um, as you notice, Multiplay completed the playground out back. It's beautiful. U, huge shout out to them, as well as Aubrey and Paven who did the excavation work for us free of charge. Could we get a really nice photo

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of that out soon since it's done? And I mean that was a capital item at town meetings. I think before our town meetings that should be blasted everywhere that it that it's done and how nice it came out >> and >> I don't think it would ever went

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anywhere. >> Right. Um Jill did put it in her community updates >> a picture. >> Yeah. >> Um >> but you're almost saying like get it beyond the school community. >> Yeah. The town should see >> like the towns should see what it looks like. >> It needs to Yeah, cuz they were the ones that paid for it. That was a capital

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item. >> I hate to ask this question, but >> because we do go through it every year. Do we have a hand? Do we give a hand out at town meeting? >> We have a book. >> We give our budget. >> We give our budget book. >> Budget book. >> The book that goes like if you go to Milville and a couple there's like 50 of you hand them out to everybody or

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>> we could put the playground. >> Yeah, we got a copy of that. You can put an insert of the truck that the town bought, the um the mower and the um the towns bought and the play. >> Yeah. And the uh just put a pictures of what they purchased last year

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>> and the playground. >> We could also get it moving on social media too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Is there some >> Let them know we are spending money. >> Is there padding underneath the mulch out there? So, we were out there last night. It's great. It's a lot of fun. I said it on the policy meeting.

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It's really high. That that climb over thing is really really high for adults, too. >> Listen, not for the middle schoolers, Matt. >> Age limit on that. >> Climb over. >> So, yeah, >> we know what Matt was doing. >> Just call me out. I have given you a boost.

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>> It was No, I was able to get up there. It was a It was the getting down that I needed. >> Um, >> was it a hard landing? >> No, it wasn't. And that's what I wanted as a hard landing because I mean, it's so spong. Is that all mulch or is that >> There's 10 inches of mulch. >> There's 10. I mean, you got to go out

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there and and you get us all the video >> from last night between 6 and 8. >> Camera. >> Can we Can we do a >> That is very fortunate that the camera is on the far side of the parking lot. So, it may not zoom. If you zoom it in, it's fuzzy.

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>> Can we do a Facebook post what the town's people pay for with Matt on the >> Captain Captain? Yeah. Boach trying to bite his shoes. I think it's important to get >> maybe we get >> we get the truck, the mower, >> the playground

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>> and the playground all in one picture. >> I got some p I got some pictures of the truck for you that you could probably >> No, no, we'll pass the ability of it to be able to >> Yeah, we shows the tiltability to the vehicle. >> We won't get into that.

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>> Thanks for that, Jim. >> Can we want to public while you were out? We want to publicize the what the towns paid for that now that are now all complete. >> Yes. It's amazing how efficiently the school district can respond to warrant articles when approved and they get everything done before the next

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fiscal year where towns are still waiting to even start warrant articles. >> And I'm sure you talked about the kids loved the playground. >> So did Matt. >> So did Matt. >> Matt. So did Matt. >> Yes. Except he got stuck on the top. >> No, Matt fell off and cushions.

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>> He appreciated the 10 inches of mulch. >> Yeah. That's how I learned. I was like, "Wow." I just started digging >> big airbag underneath mat. >> Those first few days of the kiddos went down there to see I you know to see what they they were so excited. All of the kids, not just our fourth graders or fifth. They were all very excited. >> There was a line down the parking lot to

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get on that spinning >> spinny. They love that. >> It was ridiculous. They were setting the rules how the spinny thing should be used. >> How you should have attended. >> I didn't li my ability.

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Yeah. >> Yeah. So, huge huge shout out to that. >> Thank you. Thank you, Jane. That's full agreement with that. >> Uh section of fence that was damaged. Me and the hiccodian were able to pull it back into place. So, that's that's good. Um and we ordered new basketball hoops

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for the outdoor parking outside parking lot, I should say. Those uh actually came in on Tuesday. We just got to assemble them, put them out there. uh Milville Elementary School, the sprinkler pipe, um as you know, that was rescheduled because they double booked us. I mentioned that at the last

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meeting. So, that's going to take place on June 24th. Uh the sections of the building were pressure washed that was completed over April vacation. Uh a couple of sections of fence were also damaged down there by people plowing. Um no no names or anything, but so the

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fence was pulled back into place there. Um, there are a couple of poles they have to replace and they did damage the platform out front um at the road for the sign. >> Do realize I do have pictures of you when that new truck tipped sideways. >> Wait, I think he sent me one, too. Tell

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me not to feel so bad for tat. So, um, yeah. So, that's all completed. Um, they built a nice little step out the sign out front, too, for whoever changes the sign. So, very nice. and a JFK parking lot was swept as well during

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a vacation. And that's the update. Any questions, concerns? Want me to help you spend some of that money? I'll be happy to waste items from the IT department. >> Well, I can't answer for the IT

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department. >> So, there's a listing here. We had our um IT director look through what he has and if there are um items that are unusable, broken, um unsupported, obsolete, um that we would like to get rid of. And

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the listing is here for everyone to see. Need a motion. >> Yes, please. Motion to uh uh from Tara um Scobby to approve the waste it waste items. Seconded by James. >> Any further discussion? All those in

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favor signify by saying I. >> Any oppose? You guys have it. >> All right. Next, we have your kitchen surplus items. So, there are pictures as well on these um of what it is that some of the equipment. Some of it is not used

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and other pieces are broken. Um there is a plan there's some gov dot govdealss.com where we have the option if we want to sell them >> um that we are going to look into as well and see if it's something that can be offered to the community >> um any of the items that aren't being

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used as opposed to just >> throwing them out. So I make a motion to approve the kitchen surplus items to and looking into selling them selling them. >> Motion made by Terrace Kobe. >> Second. >> Second by J. Any further discussion? All

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those in favor signify by saying I. Any >> oppose? The eyes have it. >> All right. Next one is the um facilities surplus. Yeah. So, the first picture you see is a a lawn mower engine that is part of a leaf vacuum system that we had

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for our previous lawn mower. >> There's an extra packet because this those packet that was originally in there didn't have everything. So, I passed out extra packets that are on the table for everyone. >> Yeah. So, that goes on a trailer that

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toes behind the mower to suck up leaves and stuff. We haven't used that thing in probably 10 years. And it's a large trailer that's taking up space downstairs underneath the gymnasium that we also use for storage. Um, so we'd like to get rid of that. Uh,

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the next picture over is a old spreader. It was used for salt, so the internal parts are all rusted out. Um, it's got flat tires. It's it's been sitting there for probably 10 years as well. On the next page is all the tents that

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we bought for CO. Um, yeah. And >> well, now there's hab. >> So many of them actually have holes in them from when they wind blow them over and the poles poke through them and stuff and they're just laying around taking up space and I would just like to be able to trash them.

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>> These tents, >> Matt did a lot of work to get these tents. >> Yep. You don't need them for your 250th. >> Oh, well that's exactly where I was going at. Yeah, but >> I think Scott, did you say they have holes in them in the tarp? >> Some of them have holes. Some of them the ropes that used to anchor them down are broken, too. I'm not saying all of

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them, but >> Can we sell any of this stuff? >> Duct tape. >> Yeah. >> Dan's going to then ditch them after. >> Dan wants them. Then we can dump. >> We can set them up to see if they work at the high school. If they're no good, we'll leave them for you. >> No, thank you. No, no, you take them

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with you. Once you touch them, they're yours. Yeah. >> No takebacks. >> I second that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I know where they're going to end up. Right in my junk. >> Okay. I will, if there's no objection, for the town's purposes, if you're going

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to dispose of them, we'll absolutely see if we can make use of them. >> We have a few in this building as well. These were just from the high school. >> So, can we make >> We probably have them in every building cuz we had them at every building. We had them. >> Some of them were ripped so bad that they did throw them away. >> Yeah. or if you didn't put them away,

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right? They got mold on them. Like I know at the Millville school, I believe we stored them in the trailer. >> All of them together, we may be able to salvage a piece. >> Oh, you'll get a few. You'll get a few. It's just that, you know, >> we have no need for them anymore. >> Motion to dispose of or donate.

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>> Wait, are we not using the hot dog machine at the >> the district of one event? >> Oh, they're going to warmer. We don't have a hot dog and I get >> No, I couldn't. She didn't send me a hot dog. >> Like a cute rolling

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>> that was purchased when this building first opened up. >> The hot dog machine. >> Kim Shaood purchased that. So, you can just imagine what condition it's in. >> I just thought they could use it on Saturday. >> Yeah, I thought so, too. But the thing is it's hasn't been used in years and it's >> it's one of those old roll >> nasty looking

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>> ones. So, I believe we're grilling on Saturday. We'll have fresh grilled hot dogs. >> Oh, I got a real one. Is this at the high school? Is that these tent? These pictures? >> Those tents are at the high school. >> There are some in this building with >> that wheelhorse tractor. >> What is it gross like? >> I don't have that. You guys have that as well.

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>> The updated one >> on the back page. >> Yeah, that was the second hand out. >> Okay. So, yeah, you'll see the old wheel horse tractor in there that I used when I started grower 26 years ago. >> Um, >> it's probably 20 years old when you started it.

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>> Well, it was quite a few. In fact, we replaced the motor once on that. So, yes, it is ancient and it's a hydraulic drive and the hydraulic system doesn't work very good. So, it's really slow. Um, it hasn't been used. I think the last time it was used was maybe 5 years

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ago to drag the base off the field, but it's it's just not worth keeping up. See, it's all dilopated and whatnot. Uh, the other thing you may see is a mower that you tow behind the John Deere tractor. Again, I used that when I was a groundskeeper 26 years ago. I used to

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drive that John Deere tractor to Milville Elementary School to mow the field there with that at least once a week. So, and I'm not sure. Oh, so you probably see the trailer on that too that the uh motor attaches to to suck up the leaves.

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>> Yeah. >> Leaf sucker upper. >> Yep. And broken weed whackers that are just sitting around that should have been thrown out years. That's what you >> What motion did we make on the kitchen surplus?

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>> Um to dispose or sell >> or sell. >> All right. >> So for facilities, can we motion to dispose of or donate? >> Or donate. >> Yeah. >> Second. >> Motion made by Carrie, seconded by Jane. Any further discussion? All those in

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favor signify by saying I. I. >> Any oppose? You guys have it. facilities use. >> All right, we have >> to slow down. >> So, we have um two different um events.

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One is the annual town meeting for the town of Blackstone. That is going to be held on Tuesday, May 26th from 5 to 9 at the Millville Regional High School. And there is no charge for this event.

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>> 5 to 9. >> That's it. 9:00 lights go off. John's over. >> Start off. Sorry. The second night. >> We're not voting on this one. >> Keep that in mind. >> It doesn't start at 5. >> 9:00 the lights. Do >> you want me until >> do both so that we don't

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have Milville Regional High School? But that's okay. It's elementary school. >> No, the first one. >> Oh, it's a Blackstone Milville Regional High School for Blackstone. >> So, the next one is the town of Milville meeting. That one's going to be at Milville Elementary School in the auditorium. That is for May 11th, Monday

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night from 6. That one's to be determined. That one doesn't have an end time. >> J. >> And there is no charge for that. >> I mean, the only part I disagree with is no. It says, "Will admission be charged?" They should

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>> Everybody's paying admission. >> See how many people show up. Uh, and just a quick update on that too, Milville did reach out to me. They want to come on Wednesday to look at the generator. Um, they got a company coming out to give an estimate. >> Excellent. The days before >> that's going to be on the Millville town

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meeting. So, >> okay. >> Motion to approve facilities requests. >> Motion uh made by Tara Lockett. >> Second. >> Second by Tara Scobby. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I.

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>> Any opposed? The eyes have it. Uh, anyone have anything for for school committee forum? >> Uh, can we do something at our May 25 meeting to recognize Maya having been with us all year? We used to give a nice

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gift to the senior who served and it' be nice to do that again. >> Okay, >> we will. Thank you. >> Any anyone else? >> Of course, but only if she can tell me

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how many days till graduation. >> Did she know tonight? >> She's not in a rush. She loves it. >> She's not happy to leave. She loves it here. >> Did show up fairly early uh one of the days of the EP testing because she had two tests that day. So,

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>> oh lord. >> Oh, poor kid. >> No, she's done a lot. We we need to recognize. Yeah. >> Okay. Our next meeting is uh May 21st, 2026. And now we will um I'll ask for a

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motion to enter into executive session which we will adjourn out of um for the purpose of of uh non negotiation. >> So move a motion made by Jen. >> Jane. >> Second. >> Seconded by Matt. A roll call. Jane.

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>> Yes. >> Carrie. >> Yes. >> Aaron. >> Yes. Matt, yes. Chuck, >> Sarah Scobby is Yes. Tara Lockin. >> Yes. For me as well.