So, we have meeting minutes just in the 10th at table the 17th. >> How you doing? >> I'm good. I just have this like lingering off and I'm No, I'm not I can't I can't be contagious. I can't I
was sick like four weeks ago >> and it's just like sitting there. That's all. I swear I'm not like if I come in here next week. >> Yeah. Move over anyway. talk about that That's >> Oh, is it
>> make motion to test the minutes for November 10th. Here, >> I'll let you look over. I'll second that. >> Any discussion? >> No. >> I thought you wanted a second. So, all in favor? >> I
>> I All right. So, motion to table the meeting minutes November 17th. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> All in favor? >> I >> I All right. We need just a motion for Sarah. So motion to appoint Sabrina Pooler as conservation agent for
conservation commission. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> No. >> TJ, you guys signed those papers last week. So you're not formality. >> I just needed the Here's a warrant you
look at. Split them. I have a question on the notes really quick. the money for the assessor software. The money's there. Where is it? Anybody know? Is it in the assessor's bucket or
is it >> move money from one account to another? >> This was one. >> Um I'm just trying to find the name of the company that this is. It's a 4,750
um for highway. This is the wired payments. I just don't see it. It says the address is 377 hang no that's Kelly. >> Okay. That's Kelly. Okay.
>> That is an interesting road name. >> She lives in um >> Beach Margarita. >> Mark. No, she No, she does. I'm not joking. Yes, that's what it's called. They told me just like the last >> be there right now. >> Oh, thank you very much.
>> Starting to get over here to do something. You need that one. Oh, you need to unless Yeah, that's one. A motion to approve
uh warrant 12 counts payable and wire payments and warrant 12 pay. >> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? >> I um we've got the letter to Springfield Water asking them to engage in mission
level with commercial solar at best the town of Lford that you put together. Jack, you want to? >> Sure. Um, I felt it was necessary. You know, I had contacted them, didn't respond. He'd been out of town. This,
uh, Joshua Chanel Chanel, and I had contacted again, but then I reached out again. >> I fig him letter telling him that 89 Chester is moving forward from a solar stand um to see what this
mean. I'm not really sure. You know, I I really think we need to keep it at his level and get him exposed to as much as we can. Um, but there's only so many letters I'm going to be sending out to us to get paid. >> Yeah. >> So, I'll try calling him and setting up
face to face with him if possible. Let's say here's how we're structured. Here's our committee. If you want to get involved, this is where you get involved. But we're, you know, as you both know, we're in the middle of our bylaw changes. And he had stated in his
other letter to us that he wanted to be understand more about the bylaw. Okay. Well, you want to know that's right. >> Um, and it's the holidays, so you just kind of have to >> give him some slack, right? Um but uh
you know at there's going to come a point where it's a wizard >> contacting us but we'll try again see if he responds. Uh I gave him a phone number this time once called the message with his administrative assistant.
That's about as much as we did. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Um so I gave you guys letter to review. Make a comment if you want. let me know and then I'll flip it out this week. Okay.
Um, while we're talking about that, I will say that I was on a what I thought was going to be like an hour meeting turned into a three-hour with the EFSP, which is the ones that handle the larger platforms.
Uh they're doing they were doing a review with all of the state level constituents that are involved with this whole sighting process. uh the panel DFS panel in right was
there and obviously in DPU's concern is the whole intent of doing this was to move things faster through the process and all of these folks that stood up and gave their review the way the sum of it
brother >> uh all the folks that are involved are the people that are like kind of creating the scoring systems and you know other more important things environmental these are these are people that are worried about the environment that sit at scale level
>> okay that are dealing with the EFSB >> it was obvious to me if you if you were you might have heard the same thing but it was obvious to me that the EFSB is like you know gez this is a lot of things for these vendors to jump through to get these approvals which they want
to move faster right um but they haven't done the final final approval approval yet >> of the process. They they approved today what they had presented today. >> Now I have a copy of that if you want to read it but it's many I did read it the
whole thing and it is very long and lengthy. Yeah. >> But it does explain everything that they're going to be looking at. um and the scoring model and what the vendors are going to have to go through and the process for this town to
escalate if they wanted another review done. >> Um the challenge that I there wasn't I couldn't because I didn't tell them ahead of time I wanted to speak. They weren't opening it up to everybody and like three people spoke. That was it. Um,
bottom line, my take, this is just Jackie's take was that they're not ready and they got to be ready by March >> to get it approved. >> So, who's not ready to stay? >> The state of they're not ready with their whole process. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because they got to figure out how
much money they're going to make out of it, I bet. >> No, no, no. They It's a process. So, >> it's a Yeah, every process cost money. >> I get that. But at the same time, if they would to execute too early and the town start getting involved, it's gonna
make it's gonna slow. >> And what's wrong with that? >> I'm not saying there. >> No, no, no. I I mean, >> th this is me being aggravated because the state is just trying to figure it out how through the small towns so they
can escalate this and get it done. And they don't care about the small towns. That's >> I I can't >> speak to that. All I All I This is the way this is my perception of the whole thing. >> Our best deal here is to understand it
all. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Soup to nuts. And when they darken the door and start coming in with what they need us to do and how they need us to do it, we need to be educated to the point where we can deal with them versus play
the victim. We can't play the victim. You gota, you know, so in other words, if they are doing something and we know dog on right that we have the right to go over here to this other environmental group and have them look at it and we have the right to do that. It's when when you don't know and don't understand what
they're doing, you could get in a jam to where they will come in and just blow you over. Yeah. >> Well, that's the plan, >> right? I So, >> I'm very negative on this because I don't trust I don't trust the state. I don't >> I'm not I'm not and that's okay. But
that's not that that doesn't help us when we want to be educated enough to be able to push back because if we push back with I don't want it here. They don't care. Well, well that and and that's exactly the point
>> right >> they if you read the first memorandum that came through from the state >> right >> when we wanted to uh put up a mor moratorum all right they stated what you can't use as objectionary like changing
the characteristic of our town changing the social structure of our town you can't use any of that so otherwise the state is telling we don't care. And that was right the opening statement. what I what I you know let me say this what I
thought of posit you know there is no real positive spin to any of this but the knowledge that I gained by listening was good for me personally >> because understanding the different constituents
that are involved with deciding what is in and out of scope from land you know that sort of thing as there was one group and I can't remember what the me there's so many acronyms There had to be 10 different groups there. >> Oh no.
>> Things like as an example was there are areas within the state which they cannot do anything. You can't do anything. >> So someone from the panel said well do you know what percentage of the state is? It's kind of like their own. You know how we're going to do the overlay
mapping? >> They're doing an overlay mapping. And he said and he or she said 38% of the state can't be touched. What is that? I want to know what's in there in Blandford possibly that we need to know about that they've already taken off,
>> you know, as part of their overlay map and then we will go in with our overlay map and have a discussion around why we think that is more uh critical. are they uh you know if we see things that are
not rational we should be stepping up and saying look you know like as an example since I didn't get to speak today but I wanted to was they have failed to go out into the communities that are involved to find out whether or not they could handle an emergency
situation period >> right >> they have failed to go out and educate themselves on these vendors that are coming through the are understanding whether or not they know what the hell they're doing as an example. >> None of that is written. So, in other
words, we're just going to let them go out and do their thing and the town's the one that's going to be responsible. No, >> but those are the kinds of things that I'm saying, you know, like Mission Energy came in here, never done it before, had nobody live.
>> There was no historical data to say that they know what they're doing. Who's evaluating that? >> Well, these gentlemen that were here last week >> who >> the they were talking about the uh financing.
>> No, no, no. I'm saying safetywise. When you know when you have a vendor come in, right? If when you have a vendor come in, you have to do your due diligence on the vendor to say, do they know what they're doing? Let alone charging them. Do they know what they're
doing? And the state nor us are asking those questions. We're just looking at sighting. The state's only looking at sighting. No one has said, "Hey, mission energy or whatever your name means." Do you know what you're doing? You've already done this before. No, we all
know they've never done it before. Okay. We have no history. >> You have the you said what you read. Do you have that the plans or can I >> look at a copy of Thank you. >> Um, no, I agree. I think that we have to be as educated as possible and prepared. It's unfortunately it's not easy stuff
to understand. It's pretty complicated. So, >> it's not as bad as what you think if you really read read what's important versus all the >> legal referencing and all that stuff. >> Okay. >> Um and I'm not saying all I'm saying is
that they're no different than anybody else and that they I didn't I didn't come away with the fuzzy feeling that they're ready to go. Now, there was one gentleman that was on there. This is not just the western side of the state. There was a gentleman on there from Cape
and his town is getting bombarded with windmills. >> Mhm. >> And it's destroying, you know, their area basically. So, they're getting hit from all sides on this. >> I don't you know, and there was one gentleman on the panel that said, "Are
we ready for this?" Because all of a sudden all these guys that we're dealing with right now have gone quiet. has nothing to do with moratorum. Has to do their waiting, >> right? More than likely. That's what I'm thinking. What? >> They're waiting. >> Yeah.
>> They're waiting for the state. Well, I'm sorry, but the state's got a panel of what handful of people and they're going to review all these. So, all I'm saying is watch, you know, watch the movie take place because it's going to be an interesting interesting
ride. And all we can do is be extremely educated to where when they come to us, we know what's really going on. >> Mhm. And I would imagine that our attorneys are paying attention hopefully. >> I don't know. I never talked to the attorneys. I was told not to call. So I
don't call them. >> So I don't know at what point, you know, like for example, one of the notes in there was the money that we could get our hands on. They're still looking at that and evaluating how they're going to roll that out. Well, I don't know when that's going to come out.
>> And that that money is is not like, oh, you know, it's for specific things, right? Like it's not just, oh, you you know, you had something come through the EFSB. Oh, okay. You get it's it's for um >> for intervenor status. >> Interest
>> um for pursuing it. It's funding for that. And it's not they haven't as you said decided on how much that will be if it'll be even be available if it's first come first serve if you know they they haven't set the parameters for that money yet. >> I mean I would like to with permission
from the board and is to go there on February 2nd. They're having a big in in meeting and you can join via Zoom but it's more compelling to be in the room >> and speak. Yeah. Where is it? So, it's in Boston that their normal
>> building house. >> Yeah, I'm willing to go >> and I'll put together kind of like the I'm going to say >> um representing Blandford. >> Um but I'm going to have to put some thought behind it because you probably have your normal three minutes or whatever to stand up and say whatever
you want to say. >> So, I'll put something together, but I'm willing to take that drive. >> Yeah. >> Just to at least have a voice at the table. Mhm. >> You have eyeball. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> The parking rates in in Boston.
>> I thought you were going to take me and drop me off. >> Um, okay. So, that's that. Anything you want to add, Christina, from Did you get the same sense? >> Yeah. I mean, they're they're talking about the deadlines. I don't think that they're going to be done when they think
when they had projected. It's hard enough when you have just say eight or 10 people in a room trying to come up with the same thing all at one time. They have like multiple different agencies involved that all have to sit down at the table and come to an
agreement on varying things >> specific >> and I don't see that happening within by March. I I don't know. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. >> Well, maybe there'll be an extension then >> which could be the case. But I mean the more you know what do they say? Keep
your keep it close. Closer you are, the better off you are. >> Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate it. >> Keep your front pulsies. >> I want to say we're enemies. We'll see. >> We're not enemies. We just want to
understand it to where we know what our what we can do and what we can't do. >> All right, Ray, come on down. Right. So Jackie, I'm not sure why I put select for Jackie and then put your question under new veggies.
>> No, it's late. You get creative once a month. >> Okay, good. >> What's life without whimsy? How you doing, Ray? >> Doing all right. How's everybody doing? >> We got through the storm. Okay. >> Yeah, bad. Had a couple issues with some trucks, but we got them resolved.
>> Oh, good. Um, >> so we have you on here for payment of Connor Ogden invoices. >> Yep. So >> he's Oden. He's um >> Sorry.
>> I don't think he'll >> he probably doesn't. >> This is the uh flow the backflow meter. >> He came and did that. We had the inspection done. Um Steve and Mike ended up coming
later in the evening, but that's the original. So, I just I didn't know what you wanted me to end up doing with that. The bathroom I ended up processing this past week. So, >> also I ended up getting the portaotties removed from the parking lot and it was just in the way. So, they ended up
coming and getting that. So, I have that. That's for the testing. >> So, the money in your in the bath for the bathroom got transferred. You saw it? >> No, I didn't. >> Right. You didn't see it? No, I ended up checking uh through betar and there was
no deposits at all. >> Well, was transfer that was supposed to be transferred like months ago, weeks ago. >> Well, they only recently got the certified minutes to be >> That's a conversation. >> Well, I'm sure a little bit. >> I know. I know we talked about it
before. I know you said that it was in there that it was taken care of. So, I just said, "Okay." But I didn't want to hold him up. So, I ended up processing that on on Thursday. So, that's taken care of. Um, I have I just This is one question I have.
>> When Dave was here, was there have you guys remember there's a there's a draft written up. How long has KP Law been in town for? >> Forever and >> Okay. So, he's been our lawyer forever. There's a name on the back, a female's
name. I'm guessing it could be one of his >> Did say KP Law on it. >> I would think so. Especially >> maybe. Yeah, she >> she works She works for him. >> I think so. >> Okay. All right. So, I was wondering if there was any record of that ever being
put in effect or did Dave follow through with it? I ended up uh >> What is it? It's a contract that the town would basically hold Springfield Water accountable for taking care of issues in town.
>> This doesn't even I mean there's it says you need more specifics here. Like it's not complete. >> Not complete. >> We have the intergovernmental um document that talks to that doesn't it? >> So IGAS are specific to certain things, right? Roads.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So not the roads. So like the like those gates access to some gates and stuff. We have it's specific things in town where where sprinkle water sewer and the town sort of like collide whether we own something. No, I
understand that. >> So it's not just like an IG. >> Understood for it does specifically say I read it says specifically these areas where there may be a joining right us and that >> that's from 2022.
I would say no. It hasn't been put in place. Um I'm guessing that Springfield Water >> I don't think they >> agreed to it. >> I don't know. I don't even know if they ever even seen it. You know, Dave Dave could have dropped the ball on it or it
just never made it there. But I think that's a very good basis >> to work off of honestly. Um, after looking through the IGAS that we have previously with Springfield Water, I got to admit it's a lot of
I wouldn't say beneficials to the town, let's say, for the taxpayers. Um, they're working on roads that basically lead to nowhere but their gate. They're working on roads that >> well they can't even use.
>> They're only going to work on things work on roads that go to theirs. So that's where they ended up saying, "Okay, well we're going to pull those two gates." For instance, Second Division Road in Julius Hall. Well, those gates when I first started were closed completely and we would go right up to the gate and that's where we would
stop. Well, >> now they're fixing the road. Well, we'll end up fixing that road and open the gate. Well, they didn't fix the roads. They just did drainage on it, and the roads are pretty much impassible. So, it's kind of like, what did we get out of that?
>> Well, the the thing was is that uh it made it easier for us to access the standard sen cemetery, which is >> that I think that was a opening. >> The standard is up at the top. There's no gate going through that cemetery. No,
but but when uh Peter Sparks goes to that cemetery to to work on the uh cemetery there, >> he has an unregistered ATV or a registered ATV that he takes up there. And so he goes back for him to cut
through that road then and get to the cemetery than it is to go out and go off uh uh the main road >> on on Beach Hill >> on Beach Hill Road and it's >> that deal with Sprinkle Water was just to open the gates at one road.
>> They were supposed to take the gates down which they never did but what's been happening is is uh UPS tried to use the road and uh got caught out there. >> I had a photo of concrete trucks driving in and out of that second division going
to Springfield Waters property. >> Yeah. And >> and it's completely washed out. Like you bought them a 550 out going out through there. I didn't believe it. But when I seen the photos of a concrete truck driving by Ripley's Field, it's like there's a three-foot wash out. Like if
they're going to be utilizing that road instead of ripping it up even more, why not just drop a hold over pipe in it or put it down and then when you're done take it out, you know, like there's >> Mhm. >> I don't know why they even use that road. There's no houses on that road
where the from the gate to the gate on uh South Otus Road. >> Mhm. >> There there's no houses. There's all the only thing there is Ripley Field and Water. >> Yeah. And so I don't understand why they use that
>> access the commission property. >> My question whose property? >> Springfield water. >> Well, >> but FedEx and stuff going out there. >> They're going the concrete truck is going out into Springfield Waters into the commission property. >> Oh, >> I don't know what they're doing out
there, but they're they're concrete delivery. >> It's just like old Chester Road, >> you know, you should your own. My my question because I don't have a history is that is the history with sprinkle water that if we let's say we had
problem with the road that they were working on or they were using did they just say well go pound sand. >> No >> no they would say they have a pilot program put in place or there's they already have this intergovernmental
agreement so that that should cover it work with us. They also had said that they gave us three roads that they wanted to work on that are our roads and one of them is
that um what is it? Gate 21 just below uh Russell or Julius Hall Road on the left side >> uh right before Julius Hall Road that yeah there's a gate there. They this summer they were out there putting stone
out there. stone down and everything. That was one of the roads that they were going to re rehabilitate as long and also Julius Hall Road. I >> that's what we had the IG for those. >> So they worked with us. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah, they do. >> Okay, good. I just wanted to be clear. I
kept feeling like you know here >> the relationship has improved in the last pieces very much so. >> So and this is related to the same road we talked about last week which is where the beavers are. >> Yes. Is that correct? >> Which is the one we were talking about for the bond uh for the um
>> we were talking about writing a a grant or whatever it is >> the letter to yeah the funding request. But before we do that, can we just back up to >> you asked a question about where you're going to pay the invoice for Conor >> Ogden. >> That would I mean it I believe it would
come out of highway. >> Oh, I didn't know. I know we talked about before and then last meeting I was here, you end up saying the town would take care of it. >> I don't know. >> I think we said that the town we were going to look at backflow and other um >> buildings too to make sure that that wasn't a problem.
>> They were fine. >> You had asked you had said we need to check the other ones and we found out they're >> fun. Okay. So just paid out. >> Okay. Um so if we go back to this the question we had was for sure um the engineering has not been
done. Is that correct? Because we weren't sure if we were going to write the request for the engineering or >> she wasn't here. You weren't here. >> This was for >> Yeah. Yeah. the engineering.
>> So we were looking for either funding to complete an engineering study or funding to defay the cost of the work needed to be uh to address the wash out risk. So an engineering study has not been done. >> No. >> Okay. So then that's what we are going to write. We have the example um and we
I mean I'm I can work with you on it. I'm not sure how much I know about it, but we have the signed um IGA but with the brush truck. So we can use that as a model. Mh. >> Um, and then do we have any sort of scope and sequence for what we want done
in an engineering study for Gibbs Road? >> I don't even know why we're even doing an engineer study on Gibbs Road. First off, >> here we got the email, but it wasn't. >> I was supposed to have a meeting with Nicole Sford and Christina >> and it never happened. But I had this
full packet put together to end up talking to her about different options that Springfield Water has to mitigate the situation of the water level rising on Gibbs Road. >> I spoke with other uh Franklin County
Land Trust, >> made them informed them of the situation. >> They ended up taking care of it. I uh gave them the information to get a hold of our uh board of health. They ended up paying for the permit. They ended up getting the trapping done. The water
level receded 3 and 1/2 ft off the edge of the road and there's no issues there. And we didn't have to pay a penny. >> Mhm. >> And that that's how it should be, especially when we're talking about not property.
>> Yeah. Well, we were talking about going forward, we have to decide and send a letter to Springfield Water by December 30th >> what we want help with. Every we got the brush truck. We had funding for I can't remember what was the other >> breathing fire application.
typically put in a request and you know the bridge work on um I think Burill or Vill was part of that um for what we'd like help with and we were thinking since Gibbs road keeps coming up um we could use some help with uh is there a way to sort of reshape the road or
something that would prevent this from happening in the future since this seems to come up >> are going to go away correct >> well no they can go we didn't have this water problem when it was privately owned it's some the water problem on kids only occurred after sprink water.
>> Well, regardless the but I mean nobody can get rid of permanently fix the pitch of the road. You can't permanently get rid of beavers. It's going to be an ongoing issue. >> But the the pitch of the road is is perfectly fine. It's the road is fine.
The there's nothing that we need to worry about the road washing out. There's none of that. Our culbert pipe is working just as it should. But if the water level would not be so high because of the beavers in their area of land
that Springville Water owns. If they could mitigate the situation, let's say trap, you know, a couple times a year, then we wouldn't have this issue. You know, when I first started, there was one hut out there. Now there's eight huts out there. And they're not
just huts, they're like mansions. These beavers are munching. like they are going nuts >> and >> I think we're jumping the gun on doing a a engineering for a dirt road. This isn't even a >> So you're not concerned with the
integrity of the road? >> Not at not at all. >> What are So then what is what's the issue? the safety you end up look at last winter we ended up have the water level came up and we had a truck coming from uh Otis came over Gibbs road slid
off the road and went into the pond because the water level was so high >> because of the beavers it is over he went off the edge of the road there was transmission fluid leaking into the he had fuel everything was leaking into there
>> they got the truck out you know it it wasn't wasn't uh our fault. It was the water level was too high at that point. And if we end up looking into raising that road up, let's say we're going to have to widen the road. Now, Scott Brown
has property on the other side and he has a pond there. We're going to have to get into ecological studies with conservation, mass wildlife, D. You know, this is going to turn into a big thing because you're not just affecting the road surface, you're affecting the
surrounding area because one side drops off 12 ft down into this pond that has been there. >> Yeah. >> The other side, the water level's gone up. Uh the women of Blandford ended up getting the beaver deceivers in 2016. They had a beaver deceiver installed at
that one location and it's doing its job. So, >> is it getting maintained? We we've talked about this. highways maintaining it. There's another one up there too that we end up trimming around. We end up cleaning it up. The water's still flowing. It's doing its job. So, a pond
leveler is there and it is working. But the problem is we need to end up having Springfield Waters water level go down. And it's proven from the Franklin County Land Trust up
the road up by 23. the level's gone down. Ever since they came in and they did the trapping with Jean Derby, that water level has not gone up at all. And the the pipes, there's this much water going through them. Before it was going over the road and to have no issues
pretty much 6 months out of the year, that is awesome. That really is. And >> so what do you think? Sorry. Go ahead, Jackie. Tell the thing I was going to say is that from looking at a lot of historical information online minutes and stuff, this beaver damn problem has been going on forever. It
seems >> it's not just in BL, you know, should be if that is the only thing that we have at our disposal is trapping. It should be just this is what we do and not have it come up in discussion every year. >> Well, no, it shouldn't even be us even
doing it. Like I've spoke with Nicole about this and when I've spoken to her on the phone, the the trapping it always comes up and she says that well there's no funding for it. And it's like if there's no that that that's hard to believe like you know you know that this is an issue.
>> You want so it's because it's not an issue for them. >> That's why there's no funding for things that are not an issue for them. That I mean that's putting it plainly. >> Oh, you are right. So just so that everybody understand if it were something that were an issue for them then there's funding for it
>> and that and that paperwork whoever wrote that up whatever lawyer did really lays the ground law down and saying to that they need to be responsible for the public safety of our roadways of >> my what I'm remembering is that they
they weren't amendable to that >> well >> what was the request >> I mean they've done it in the past I've seen the paperwork where they they trapping and they passed an IGA for us. Yeah. >> So >> they didn't want to do like this situation. I mean they want us to write
our letter requesting not >> funding for the re the removal of >> that's what so the removal of the beavers the meeting that I had did you have the meeting with her? >> No I had a meeting with her I spoke with her she it's about tree removal ash tree remov road.
>> Yes. And then she had asked me about Did everybody else see that? >> Yeah, it was a flash on the screen. >> And she had asked me about um the beaver dams on Gibbs >> and she had said that when you spoke to her, you weren't requesting trapping,
you were requesting free. >> I watched a video and it's like I didn't even say that. I wish someone would have had me here so I could voice my own voice instead of someone saying that. Go ahead. So, she explained to me that they historically have never breached a
beaver dam and that one of the reasons they don't do it is because of all the other state agencies that may need to get involved and because like I had just said if it doesn't benefit them it could have actually negative impacts on them not on us on them right so
>> costly too >> I have no idea how much >> Army Corps of Engineers is who you end up calling I did research into this to end up slowly not breaching like blowing it up but to level the dam it again anyway
>> unless you end up unless you are proactive on doing the trapping >> um >> so brutal >> if I can read this for one minute >> um I want to ensure
that everyone the problem is not the surface of Gibbs road but the respons responsibility of Springfield Water directly pertaining to this road on Gibbs. The water level of these key areas in Bamford needs to be addressed. Not just Gibbs Road. There's other roads
that we have issues with that pertain to the same. >> Exactly. Um, if we end up re-engineering the road to conform to Springfield Water, we'll be re-engineering all Blandford
to the amount of land that Springfield Water owns of Blandford. We do need to think and make ground rules to set into bylaws for land owners, not just Springfield Water. to reference within the town of Bamford,
the beaver problem pertaining to Gibbs Road is the issue of Sprintville waters and not Blandford roads or drainage. And that's where I was I was going to ask who's coming up with the idea to do the study um engineering for that road. >> Okay.
>> Uh this is why it's importance of meeting that I had requested with uh Nicole so I could end up voicing our concerns. um and educating her on a few different options that I ended up finding that
they could end up going for an avenue. Um being the highway superintendent, I wish that any any meetings pertaining to our roads and safety of our town's people that I would be included on.
Um, I do understand that we have that IGA renewal coming up, but there's there's other funding needed elsewhere for more importance to benefit the town of Lamford in a positive way rather than engineering a roadway that is perfectly
fine besides the water level rising affecting my crews when they're working in these areas after a heavy rainfall and safety of the public when they're traveling. Bamford rugs. The issue is not the roadway, it is the water level annually increasing year
after year. So even if we ended up engineering Gibbs road and we got a box cover or they say raise the road up 3 ft or however much raise it up. You might be gone. I might be gone, but
10 years down the road, whoever's sitting in these seats, they're going to be having the same issues coming back again. >> So, what do you suggest, Ray, for um a request? Do you have a highway request for >> for Springfield Water?
>> It'd be nice to get two leantos off the salt shed to house our equipment instead of bacon in the sun. >> Don't know that that's going to be related to them. It has to be something that >> relates to Springfield or Sprinkled water. >> Something like the fire brush truck does
that. But no, but if they have a brush fire, it benefits them because we would respond like that. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> How about a boat? >> Mhm. >> A boat for what? >> The water department. >> No, for highway department
that has no issues with its integrity. Floods. I'm about to get over it. >> I'm just if you give me if you give me at least uh till tomorrow, I'll end up emailing everybody and come up with a realistic
>> uh scenario that they pertain to. >> We can we can reach out to fire and ask them for suggestions as well. I'm sure that has a list of things come up with something. >> Okay. We just don't want to let the day go by and not request anything. >> No, I totally understand.
>> Okay. Um I will call me >> are we talking a tradeoff with with friend water? They give us something so they don't have property. >> No this is >> that's not where I want this to go. >> Well that's what it start. >> No this is two different discussion.
>> Turn the page on. >> Yeah. Every every year >> supposed to do that without telling me. >> Every year we write um we send a letter. They allow us to send a letter requesting so that they can put it in their budget. So that's what we're talking about. want to make sure that we request something that's necessary.
>> Getting a favor out of this. >> Um, so I'm going to call Beaver Deceiver and ask them um to quote us for a yearly uh maintenance. They used to do it for us and wasn't expensive. So I'll >> That's $1,600 a year.
>> Yeah. So I'll work on that and get it back. I think >> there's actually a $6,000 bill that's owed in 2016 that you're gonna find. >> Okay. Six how much? >> $6,000 bill. >> So >> awesome. >> Just to let you know, no one followed up
with that, whoever was here at that time. >> Uh but when they came up and, you know, showed me some different options, especially on uh Gibbs, >> never was paid. They kept taking the business.
>> Right. Um do you know how many beers we have in town? used to have one on land but a previous superintendent ripped it out. >> If you think of it just text it to me and then I just have some idea when I call up. >> You had mentioned during your discussion
here that there's a number of places that water is. It would be good to know where all those places are. >> We don't have any ongo but Beaver Deceiver on Blair Road. You got a box. You got a bridge there.
The issue is down further downstream. >> Um yeah, just send me a text if you figure it out and then I'll follow up on that. >> There's four. >> Oh, four more. So, we should um just touch base on I know we last time you were here, we had talked about the bond
um situation and Jackie had done some good research >> um and followed up so that it wasn't Do you want to >> Yeah, I got your email. >> Yeah, I laid out the blowby-blow historical piece, right? But it really
bonding involves planning treasury and you >> Yeah. So, I'm willing to, you know, take some with you to get that process laid out because you can't do anything without knowing that it's happened, right? >> Well, even like the my examples that I
wrote up on that sheet, >> I think that was all it I ended up having all departments multi-EP departmental uh you know, working together. >> You know, I I'll help. We'll just go to the departments. to a heart meeting with them explaining this is what their
responsibility does. This is what your responsibility is. >> You have it. It's just laying it out and everybody knowing right Treasury helps to get involved. >> Uh the uh the part that legal view
really was basically here's an example when you're ready to create one they'll just help you create it. That's all it was. Right. No, that's why I didn't even I didn't even use that because right >> from the ones that are actual bonds that are in effect, that's what I was looking
at and going through and then that's when I broke down everything, wrote in that list of what Blandford needs in a robot. And I understand the confusion of why we had the 2,000 to the 25,000 per mile where that got diced up and then we
got that removed in 2022, I believe. Um, if I'm correct. >> Well, my my question is what should it be? >> 25,000. >> So, I'm going to follow up with >> because you're not talking just dirt roads. You're talking asphalt roads.
Asphalt roads aren't, you know, a couple loads of stone and you got the road fixed. >> Well, my we can't >> and I and I agree. I'd like you did you talk to any of the other towns to find out what they're doing by chance? >> Uh >> because when you look it up, you know, I
did a little research too and it depends on the size, the scale of what's happening is what charge them set like that. If it's a small project, you may not want to charge $45,000 in insurance bond, right? So, so in other
words, it's generally once you get the heads up great, they're going to go out to like, let's just take the example of the solar panel. Someone should have given you the heads up to go out there, take pictures, you have a historical view of what it looks like today, no one's been there, and date stamped and
whatever. And then you determine what do you think that shity bar should be. >> Well, I should I I shouldn't be adjusting prices just off of my knowledge. That just gets a little unethical to be able to do that because
what if my buddy here TJ's got a logging company and he's going to be coming and he said, "Hey, right. I'm only going to be in here for 10 loads." >> You know what I mean? You gotta watch it out. If there was a small operation someplace, a $25,000 refund may not make
sense. Maybe put in the bylaw in the future kind of like size scope. >> Okay. >> Regardless, we stick with our 2000 for now, right? U all I'm saying is that all these people need to know this is what
we're going to do. Even though it's in the the bylaws, we don't have a process to make it happen. If we did, we'd already be doing it, >> right? >> Not just that, but building inspectors, electrical inspectors, plumbing inspectors. You got
the state uh forester that needs to be aware that Blamford has a bonding system because he's the one that signs the check. So, it is a big scope >> that we would have to end up fanning this out. This, you know, you can't just put in the paper and say, "Hey, come to Bford. Uh,
>> make sure you check in at the front office to see Joan." all needs to be thought. It's not as simple as you know what I mean. >> Yeah. No, I totally understand. >> Take the step of getting a meeting together with everybody. So, >> okay. Now, is Mark going to be there? I know last we talked we were going to end up
>> Why? >> Because I thought we were going to end up having a meeting with Mark and talk about what I presented and see what we could put together. >> I don't think we're there yet. I think since Jackie did some more research. >> Okay. >> I think that she's understanding the
process enough where we're doesn't care about the process. All that he cares about is that you have a process that you can actually execute. >> That's important. >> So, and we don't want him involved because he's going to, you know, we want it really clean when we do give it to him and say this is the process mark
what he like, don't like because he charges for all that. We need to work through all that. >> Okay. Um, the other thing on the bonding, what we have to determine is because we do have a $2,000 per mile bond, I think, right? Um, is those that
are in play right now. We don't have a lot of >> Do we do anything about that or do we start a new? >> What do you mean do anything about? >> I don't think there's anything we can do. They're already >> Yeah. I wouldn't be chasing people down
saying, "Hey, we had to collect >> and that's fair. I just wanted to bring it on the table." >> Yeah. >> So, only going forward. Um, and and one question I asked you was, "Do you have a camera that date stamps and timestamps?"
>> There was a camera in the shop that I Rainey was talking about. It was a Garmin and DOT actually ended up giving it to uh >> well to see if it works and that we
that's a truck camera, right? >> It's a Garmin camera. DOT uses it. You end you can end up doing yardage. It was not just like a hey take a camera. It was an actual industrial camera. >> Well, the camera's missing. Even when
Rainey was there looking through all the stuff, it's gone. It's not where it used to be. So, >> the answer is no. You don't camera. >> Sad to say it, but that would have been a nice tool to have. >> So, >> okay. >> Can you find out how something like how
much something like that costs? >> We're going to have to have one. >> Yeah. >> And soon because we've got the solar project going. >> Yeah. >> And we want pictures now of what it looks like. >> Be a good idea for sure. Um, so expect, you know, after the
holidays we'll do this because planning needs to, you know, have a break and, uh, then we'll set something up. >> Fair. Sounds good. Um, all right, Ray, do you have anything else for us?
Yeah, I ended up uh I got an email from Ellen from Porco and Laura and they got our package put together and by May 30th we are going to have the
Russell stage uh retaining wall there, the wall that we ended up digging out completely done with a nice paved apron, paved swale uh butdding up to the of all making sure that the uh precatch basins
that run along the roadside are structurally intact. Make sure that they look good. Um so that that is all done and bids are going to be starting in January. Starting to get that collected. So we got the ball rolling on that.
>> So that was good to see. >> Um >> it's going out to bid. Yeah, the collective bids. >> Are you the the cost of the actual work being done? Do you have any idea? >> Yeah, the cost for the actual work
that's going to be done is 54. >> Well, you can't you can't know how much it is if the bids haven't gone out. Well, from my estimate with the 1,200 foot, the blank, the amount of asphalt, the handwork, the uh everything tacked
into it, my estimate cost is $54,76 >> and that chapter 90. >> That's what we've been using. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Um, another thing on the uh our grant that we uh I applied for for dirt
roller. I ended up uh doing some research and ended up having multiple facets that I ended up looking at and I believe the best
the best option for Blandford is going to be a bow. Um, it's a boat mag roller fully enclosed. So, it comes with a 2-year factory warranty. Um, but I can end up getting
an extended 48month um, warranty and I believe it's 5,000 hours if I'm correct on there. Uh, for an extra >> standard 2year 2,000 hour. >> Yeah, that's how it comes factory. Uh,
and that's 178, right? >> It's kind of like 78, right? >> Yeah. Um, I believe having the extended warranty is the best way to go cuz all the other equipment that I was looking at, even
the calf, they don't want to go over the two-year, you know, it's definitely nice to have that superiority. So, I'm going to end up this would be hopefully the machine that we are end up awarded and uh with the extended
warranty and everything put on out the door would be uh I'm looking at a number around 199,348. >> You apply? >> Yeah. >> Okay. When are they supposed to get back? >> Uh >> you know, >> they they don't close until the 9th.
>> Okay. >> 6th or 9th? I think it's the sixth. So, just to give you a little insight on this. So, this bow mag, same company, same quote. Earlier this year, nine months ago, we got a quote for the same machine and it
was $155,000. >> It was a used machine. >> Uh with uh >> It was a used one. >> It had hours on it. Yeah. This says zero.
>> This one. This one says zero on it >> for the 155. >> 155. So this this price that we ended up getting was on 1225. So the tariffs, I didn't realize it, but
this past nine months going on a year, this past year, the tariffs really are hitting us pretty hard. >> Yeah. And now I'm putting a budget together, you know, to end up going forward. >> Say I'm so sorry. >> Go ahead. >> So the grant that you are applying for, I noticed it says reimbursement grant.
Yes. >> When you go to do your budget, you have to have money set aside reimbursement. So just take that into account when you're doing your budget stuff. I'm sorry. Sorry. >> Um >> I don't know where I was going with that. That's fine.
You said uh tariffs. >> Yeah. So the tariffs the tariffs have been hidden. So getting the budget together and and getting everything together for the end of the month. I'm really taking an account of looking at how much stuff costs from last year because it's it's actually amazing. I'm things have doubled.
>> No, you're crazy. You're just >> I'm not I'm not kidding. >> The grocery store. >> No, >> that might have been the first city. Not the $199,000 roller, but maybe just the groceries. a lot a lot has gone up and um
>> so that really uh I think >> yes >> I don't know >> 100% yes >> fantastic >> so that's why I really didn't want to waste any time >> for partial funding you either get it >> you can't I I could have put uh partial funding if we wanted to end up doing
that but I went all the way so if they end up coming back and saying hey you know we're only going to cover 150 of it we have the money and Chapter 90 at least we just >> you know it's a it's we got a a buffer at least. >> So I just wanted you to see the
>> unfold. Yeah. No, totally. So that's one thing I just wanted to end up uh putting forward that is getting taken care of. >> I did want to end up having a uh another grant paperwork I figure I could tie up before the next >> that would Yeah. No, this is the dirt
road. This is the dirt road one. There's a covert pipe replacement uh that we could end up applying for. Julius Hall. I'd really like to put asphalt on that in the springtime. And the only thing holding me back from that is one cobra pipe that PVPC Angelo there. Um it's in
poor condition. And instead of putting down asphalt and ripping it back up like we see in all these big cities because they got all this money to spend, I'd rather do it right, get the pipe replaced. Uh it is a freshwater tributary. So we would end up uh having
the study paid for. It was 500,000 for the study of getting the uh what's the word the to get the plans together
the engineering part of it. >> Sorry. >> No, it's all right. uh for the plans for replacing the pipe and then we can end up getting up to a million to have that pipe replaced. So >> it's half a million just for the engineering study. >> 250 either it's 250 or
>> business. >> No, there's six of them that I've been reading and So construction grants up to a million and the design grants up to 150,000. So the design that's what I meant is 150
and the construction >> bring you up to 150. You could get a design for 50,000. Well, it all depends on who you go with. Now, one thing I didn't know if I could combine cuz Angela keeps sending me emails wanting me to sign up with PVPC about doing um doing some work with them. You know how
they put that dirt roads. >> Didn't you come flying in my office saying that was a terrible idea and you want to do it? >> So, that's why I haven't gotten back. But, I want to end up getting that taken care of for Julius Hall. That'd be something to be planning for in the spring. Um, next thing that I got, any
questions? So, if I end up getting tomorrow, get that um application filled out, can I end up getting some signatures before Wednesday if I leave it in Christina's office? Is that possible? >> Yeah, >> I think so. >> Is that legal?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I'm not a lawyer. Don't take my advice. Um yeah, somewhere around more so than my daughter. If you were a lawyer, your answer wouldn't have been yes. >> Yeah. >> All right. So,
>> morning that would be good. Um January 11th, this Knox Trail event. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Wednesday, 11:15 a.m. at the fairgrounds. Anyone going to be there at this meeting that I was invited to today? >> I will be working. I think you were the
only one invited. >> Really? >> I'm busy. >> I'm busy, too. >> What? >> What day is it? >> That's Wednesday being held during the week. >> Yeah. No, it's just >> odd time.
>> Department heads uh that are needed like >> giving you >> the rundown. So, like Adam's going to be there. Um, one thing that they ended up asking was who's going to end up moving the if the highway was going to be part of helping
out up there for this Knox Trail event. I didn't know brought it up to >> What do they want the highway to do? >> Uh, basically if there's any like uh sanding and if the snow needs to be pushed back, that's the only thing. Now, we do have
>> that would have to go through the fairgrounds as private property. That's that's what I figured. So I even I told them today I said honestly that's a dicey situation but it has to be brought to this >> be brought up to uh Greg and Matt. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> If you do decide to do that or do any
like they there has to be some sort of waiver. >> You know if we're on their property doing anything then you hold us no liability to any >> something happens. No that's totally understandable which all right. Thank you. the fairground has
equipment available to move the the snow if they have to. >> So I I I would be surprised if they come to you, but if they do, >> you know, I doubt it. Okay. Well, I had a call from uh Chip today.
>> Okay. >> So, I just >> No, I I just I I'm just saying because I'm here at the meeting, so that you know, I was brought to my attention about that. private property you would have to they can ask you anybody can ask you but it's
private property you ask go through the fairgrounds >> okay >> that that committee that's putting that together has no authority on those grounds >> all right well if you don't see me there with highway you'll see me there with the fire department how about that >> um I think that's pretty much it any
questions for me by any chance >> much >> can I get the uh sheet back that Right. That draft paperwork, please. >> It's the only copy. >> Thank you. >> Go ahead. >> I just wanted to uh thank you for doing
a great job on our road. I've seen them looking so much better than they have in the past. >> I appreciate that. >> Especially our road. And I I've noticed they've been cleaning out ditches and leaves and stuff like that. And you know, living on off of Birch Hill Road, you know, watching no water flow down
there and destroying it at one point was horrible, but it's been kept clean and the roads are really looking good, though. A lot of people have said that it's it's really improved over the past years. >> Birch definitely needed a lot of attention. We you know, you can't just
keep driving by it with a truck with a blower or, you know, piece of equipment. You actually, like we had the guys with the weed whackers out there. We had to end up digging out all the ruts so that you know the roots growing so we can end up putting the asphalt in the pave swell. If we don't preserve them now, they're just going to be busted apart
next year, you know. So, >> thank you. >> No, I'll let the guys know. Most definitely. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um Christina Joan, I just forwarded you an email from Furcog. >> I know the signatory thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. I got it. Okay. Thank you.
Um, do you want me to digitally sign or we'll print it out and do put it on the agenda for next week? Yeah, it's fine. Okay. >> All right. >> You're up. >> No problem. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> So, I um met with well talked to Kelly.
We talked about a couple of different things. one being that she uh after she's she's already let everybody know, but Wednesday is her surgery. So, she will be out of commission um at least until well, Friday she Friday Friday we have our special town meeting and
immediately after the results of the special town meeting, I have to call her so that she can do what she needs to do with the DLS and the do and all that stuff. Um but she will have be like less than 48 hours post surgery on Friday. So
hopefully everything goes okay, not because of our special town meeting, but just for her in general, but just keep in mind that she is having surgery on Wednesday. >> And the special town meeting is at 7 or 6. >> So it's at 7. Um I wanted to know if you guys wanted to do a meeting beforehand.
Legal will not be here. Um we may want to meet beforehand only because if Dave Hopson's flight gets delayed by any >> Please tell me what meeting you're talking about. special town meeting on Friday, >> the 19th. >> Thank you. >> Yep.
>> Um if Dave Hopson's flight gets delayed for any reason, we will have to appoint uh a new town moderator just for that meeting. So, we want to probably be prepared in advance of that. So, if 6:30 works for you guys, um we could just be at 6:30.
>> Yeah, I'll give John Crane a heads up >> as he Yeah, I just don't have his contact information. Who is it? John Crane. >> Let me see if I have it to send to you, but I could get it easily if nobody else can.
>> Uh TJ, you had asked me about the accounts for the Sumar Robbins Trust. >> Yeah, >> they're they're going to set up the account numbers. We still just have to wait for the funds to be released, but they both Kelly and Sarah have all the information that they need to move forward with setting up the trust for the >> Okay. And can they combine it?
>> No, they have to keep them separate. I did ask that. >> All right. All right. Thanks. I just sent you John's uh contact. >> Thank you for >> um the special town meeting minutes will need to be certified as soon as possible because that is the only way the we'll
be able to transfer the money from free cash in order to achieve the goal of >> what we need to do by lowering things. >> So it's one question there's it's one it should take two minutes to do >> they want me to reach out and send an
email. Yeah, they need to be done like ASAP. >> Um, >> that has to be done by Doris. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Unfortunately, >> um, I have sent out RFQS for the roof
again. I haven't heard anything. I'm still in contact with Rockwell. Um, so still working on that. Uh, the fire department. I was just made aware today that there is a company called
>> Go back to that for a second. I'm sorry about the group. >> Yep. >> If no one responds to then we have to go beyond what the state list is, right? >> Yeah. I've already gone beyond the state list. >> Oh, you have? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okie dokie. >> Which I felt comfortable doing because
this guy came in at 40. So between 10 and 50, it's just you have to get quotes. And so now I can go off of the list. It doesn't have to be an RFP because >> likely not going to >> cross that threshold. >> Okay. >> Uh so I today there was an email sent to
Kelly uh that she included me on. Uh there's a company called Onseen LLC. Um they reached out today and said we performed uh we perform apparatus service and repair uh work for the Blamford Fire Department under Chief Dolby's leadership. we performed a good
amount of work earlier this calendar year and have sent Chief Dolby invoices and reminders for payment. He mentioned he would follow up in response to the reminder emails and mentioned it may have been due to a transition between accountants. We still have not received payment. Um these bills date back to
February of this year and so they're bills of prior year and they're in excess of $10,000. I've never seen these invoices. Kelly's never seen these invoices. Joanne, I've just never seen the invoices. We never >> Adam never gave it to us.
>> And have you reached out to Adam? >> I just got this today. >> No, I wanted to let you guys know first. It has to go on a future probably the annual town meeting in the spring. Um, but yeah, it's got to get paid. And I had no idea that there were over $10,000
in outstanding bills for And I mean, he included like a lot he included a lot of backup documentation. >> Yeah. So, um, can we give a date to when the certified minutes need to be done for my message? I'm sending
>> Monday. >> Okay. So, by >> it shouldn't it's not it shouldn't be impossible. It's literally just there's one question and people are going to vote. So that's going to be the 9th 20 22 Monday
22. >> Yes, it's the 27th. >> And wouldn't you even asking too much? Probably. >> Yeah, I know. I thought the same thing. >> Well, can we ask?
They can always say no. >> You can ask. certainly ask it's um >> just because of the challenge of timing and stuff that it's done first thing Monday morning or not >> I mean
>> so you want me to ask them to have them done after the meeting? >> Well ask them if they would be able to if they would be willing to given the time frame as a favor to the town. Well, this last meeting we had, did Mary certify it, right?
>> No, right after you signed something else. >> We're running into >> because that we're running into issues with the me the minutes not being certified in a timely manner. So, that's why we're reaching out. um the elements, you know, it's really
important with that is that if they can't do it that night, then it's got to be done by 9:00 the next morning or something to that effect on Monday. So, we're not sitting here at until 5:00 p.m. going where's the meeting minutes
and you know and just ask them nicely. That's all I can say. Now >> when Sarah comes in after the town meeting, she comes in like on a Monday, Tuesday, something like that. >> Sarah >> Sarah Hunter.
>> Okay. Yep. >> Yeah. And then she's got some work to do, but she wants help uh to stuff. >> That's not sure. >> Let me know cuz my wife might. >> Okay. >> I'll come to
>> You don't even have to lick them. There's a sponge. No, you just peel it. Never mind. So, um, >> well, it helps out Jordana and Yeah, there a break. >> There's very clearly an issue with the heat at town hall.
>> No, >> I don't know if anybody knows. >> I think it's >> all I have to say about that. >> No. Um, I got a solution. >> Did um >> you gonna light me on fire? >> Did we reach out to us out? >> Me. This is a company that does uh
municipal buildings and everything. And the problem is is our heating system is on a computer system. >> Yep. >> And it worked for a little while. Now it's not working >> because nobody knows how to use it. That's >> Well, that's it. And this this company here can come in and adjust it or
whatever cuz the instructions when you know we took it over after gateway they took the computer system the program with them when they left us the building. >> Helpful. You need to be a rocket scientist to figure out. It was a 4hour
>> training that Christopher Dunn went through when the system was put in and copy was part of it >> and he tries his best and then does something and then it >> and then it goes >> was that um what's the name of the company? It's uh >> uh Medford Wellington.
>> Oh, it's not what I thought it was. >> Um >> well, they came highly recommended. >> Okay. I'm a new teacher. >> I had a meeting with uh Wendy Terrell. She is our rep for Maya for health insurance and benefits and premiums and
all that good stuff. >> Uh the formal rate information for the upcoming year should be available but to us by February, but >> I'm sure that's going to go down nicely. Well, she said preliminary estimates indicate projected increases in the
range of between 9 and 13% increase. Uh, as a reminder, Thursday is Sue from the collector's last day. Um, Friday special town meeting to begin
at 7, 6:30 premeating. Um, no attorney will be present. We will also immediately be going into reconvene the tax classification hearing afterwards as well. So don't forget about that. And that's all I got for you guys.
>> Okay. Um I reached out. Adam said that the furnace was repaired. It wasn't that bad. And um fire was just a fan that needed to replace. >> We just replaced the fan. So how did it break again? >> There was a bird the first time. What's the second time? >> There.
>> Another bird. Another huge bird. >> No. So >> yeah, now I was there for >> No, it wasn't a turkey that it's it's taking out a furnace fan twice.
>> The thing knocked it didn't take out the furnace fan twice. All right, the bird was in there once. That was it. It didn't come back or any other birds came back. There's one bird in there. It ended up kicking it off. It vibrated the housing of the furnace, cracked it where
the fan motor slides onto, and the computer board, the green board >> Yeah. >> cracked all the little terminals that it did that connected to. So, we ended up welding the seams that were cracked from the blower fan being une like being off
balance. That cracked everything on the housing. So, welded that together. Martin took care of that. We ended up getting the uh the new housing put in the furnaces everything. Um, >> one thing, one thing I just wanted to
ask, uh, if anyone's going to be posting anything on the town site, if someone could for the winter months just make a post, uh, for residents if they want sand to come to the highway garage, >> you can put an email
at Wendy >> Wendy KS when I did the uh, >> when I did the applications on there. >> He has a new new email, not the town one. >> Wendy,
>> something like that. Mine just pops up automatic. Wait a minute. Here we go. >> Um.com. >> It's a wendy ironblender.comass telephone switch. >> Yes. Okay. So, um
>> Okay. >> They want us to resign contract with this up here because our contract has been expired. >> Yes. >> And it's for three years and they're going to come in and update phones because we're on an old system which
they'll do that January expens. And uh they're charging us another $6,000. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, we're good residing. with that. >> My only other question was expenditure report. >> Yes, that's a good point.
>> Yeah. Do you want me to get >> I can email it to you tomorrow. >> Okay. You guys can review it this week or >> Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. >> You have a department of >> probably not. Um should what would the
date be for that? >> That would be December 29th. um which is the day like right before everybody's budget is due and we'll be meeting them with the budget hearings
and following. >> Okay. >> I I would say skip it giving them the time to work on the budget. >> Right. >> Um Right. And we'll just have regulars coordinating not department levels. So,
we should probably send out an email just letting them know that we're going to give them that time to the >> Well, when I send the reminder email to everybody, I start to send them once it gets closer and I I've only gotten to people's budgets and the assessors building.
>> Okay. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Oh, sorry. >> Comments. Public comments on the Springfield water. Will public involvement help you write letters to them? I mean, I don't know. I would assume so.
Hey, you know, this is >> uh I can't speak to them. I don't know. I really don't. >> I wasn't sure if you needed some help getting >> No, I'll call them again. that has a little bit to do with the holidays, but we'll call them.
>> They also just I'm sorry I'm not interrupting. No, no, go ahead. >> The February 2nd Austin I would be more than happy to go think it would be beneficial next year >> for a little support.
>> Yeah, conservation >> just get in front of them better off. >> I think you made it really good for you about that. I promise they don't know what they're doing because we asked them solar what kind of batteries are you
using and they have no idea. So I made a really could I have a cop that >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I'll send it to you. >> Okay. Are you good for Thank you. Did you have
any questions? One thing uh I did want to ask if there was a laptop found ever down here, you know, town hall. >> Like everything in the history of town hall. >> Uh no. Well, there's supposedly there's
a laptop that DOT gave Dave for the road speed signs in town. And I just talked to Pubio about it and she says she doesn't have it. So, wherever this laptop went, I'm supposed to log information from the speed side and send it to them. And
>> wow, >> there's a laptop that they submitted. That's not here. >> So, I was just wondering if maybe it was in an office or a back room or >> Why does it have to be on a specific laptop? because it has the program that
syncs to the there's a computer in those road signs that documents >> how fast people go by >> but I told him I don't have a laptop at the shop. >> Yeah. So I'm I'm going to have a actual phone conversation with him tomorrow the
technical support up there >> and see how important is this even though that we have the time already and we've had them for a while now. >> Yeah. >> Let's end up seeing if this can just >> wash away you know keep you know >> maybe give you another laptop
>> there. Yeah. Time meeting. >> Thank you. >> 7:25. Thank you. >> All right. I just yell at him. >> Well, if we can do it now, it has to be out of town meeting that
>> get your together. >> I'm kidding. No, now he's got to go back to the vendor and tell him he's not