This is workshop meeting agenda of the governing body of the Faroh Bloomdale, Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 at 6 p.m. All me into order. Ice to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Roll call, please. Mayor, here. Councilman Brocker, present. Councilman Catalano, here. Councilman Graciano
here. Councilwoman Hudson here. Councilwoman Schubert here. Councilman Yazni. Um, Councilman Yazdi is running about 15 minutes late. He text me stuck on traffic on 287. So people will be on
the way. We also have our tenant administrative assistant Amy Greenspan, business administrator Michael Sagmire, and Burough Attorney Dawn Sullivan. This meeting is called pursuant to the provisions of the open public's meetings law. Adequate notice of this meeting is
advertised at the Herald News on May 11, 2025. Copies were provided to the local news media and posted continuously in a municipal building. A copy of this notice is available to the public and on file in the office of municipal clerk. As per state fire code, I'm required to
acknowledge there are two emergency exits in this council chambers. the main entrance which you entered through in a secondary exit to the left of where I am seated. If there is an emergency, walkerly to the exit, exit through the door, down the stairs and out the building. There's any questions, please
raise your hand. Seeing no one, um I need a motion to authorize Amy to be our administrative assistant tonight for temporary ser. Second. All in favor? I Okay, we do have
one non-aggenda item tonight. This is for recreation program. They're adding lacrosse program. Correct. Um which is great. This will be the first time for Bloomingdale. So, we're just going to do that as a non-aggenda. That'll be an introduction to May um because they want
to start in July. Correct. And adopt the next meeting start. Correct. Um, we are there is as you all were were notified there's no reason to go into executive session tonight. So we will open up early public comment. Do I have
a motion up to open early public comment? Second. All in favor? Anyone wishing to come up? Please come up. Seeing no one motion to close. So moved. All in favor? I Okay. Reporting
committees. I've been working uh for the um for the town fireworks on June 28th and we have about 10 um food trucks and we have one um
on our very own Bloomingdale Frontier the maple syrup vendor that's going to attend. Um I reached out to um um Mr. Riley about possibly um when he cuz like for the um Memorial
Day parade he opens up uh the museum. I'm hoping he can uh keep his hours as usual, Saturday hours, and um maybe have his uh talk regarding the um the Bloomingdale's participation in the um
revolutionary uh war and the federal hill site. So, um I'm hoping he he could he could do that. Um we the again the Blue Senior Center um has a
lot of um projects and um they just did their Pinker Lake trip on May 20th. Uh June 19th they're going to Casabianca to see um restaurant and um they have June 25th
Little Mermaid at the April Mill Playhouse. Um all their uh things are listed on the Greenale um calendar under the senior center plus um Al they also have their own um Facebook page. Um they
also have their um through the P County food um nutrition calendar they have um the June schedule up as well. um as and also
for I do not have um the name numbers for um the trib however um they as you mentioned last week uh uh the mayor and
um Mr. first and outside all attended the um first the tribal first aid squad. Um it was their week for um
it was EMS week. EMS week. Yes. Um I heard about it a little too late so I did not attend also. Um but for April their numbers were um six they had 636 calls and
um back in uh 2024 they had a total of 541 calls. So they're definitely increasing. Um as always they have uh rentals if you needed um assistance in any kind of uh
wheelchairs and other items. They also have a um um it's helpsy. It's a clothing drop off um containers that are in front of their um address which is at 51 staff in Butler
if you have any items that you wanted to to drop off. Um next is for the library. They have um their small library big impact. Next year they're going to celebrate their 100 years and
they're encouraging the stories of of Bloomingdale if anybody is interested to um sign up for that and also to take advantage of their many um
literacy programs including uh Hoopla which is a free service and they have um their next um big Um on July 17th they
have a uh speaking from spirit with Rosemary Marie um Babonetti. Um it's a medium. She's going to be speaking um if anybody is interested. You do have to register. Seating is limited. Um and
it's going to be here in C chambers. And um their annual um fundraiser for the library is Julian panels October 17th. and or and it's always everything's located on
online. And this weekend we had the um Memorial Day parade which was very highly intended and it was a beautiful beautiful day. Um and that's it. Just one item reminder, June 14th we
have the Park Festival from 3 to 9:00. Main Street will be closed between Reed and Liry and it'll be a really good time. And again, that's 3 to 9:00 on June 14th. Okay. Um, regarding the fireworks, uh,
June 28th, they start at 6 PM. The rain is the 29th. The walking path uh at Walter T will be closed starting at 2 PM either day depending on if we have rain or not. Um again reminder the garage sale is this Saturday, June 7th from 9
to 5. Signups are closed um Parkfest. Uh on July 4th, just a reminder, the burrow is closed. No, no DPW pickup. Um also I wanted to say a thank you to everyone that showed up for cleanup day. we
probably had in the vicinity of about 70 people. So, it was great. And uh thank you to everyone that participated. Also, I wanted to say a thank you to Sam Scuturro, the head of uh search and rescue. He um did a presentation uh last week here in council chambers to a
number of people. We had representatives from police departments, OEMs, um state officials, state officials. Um they it was a wonderful presentation about search and rescues, how they're conducted. um programs that they use. Um
and I want to say representatives came from quite uh West Milford, uh Palton Lakes, Waniku, Oakland, um who else did we have there? Bloomingdale clearly the county was there, the state was
there. So really wanted to thank Sam. was very informative and we have gotten a lot of great feedback from um a couple police departments that actually are uh considering some of the software that we use. So again, thank you Samurro. Uh um
our board of health, we have two ordinances that passed. If you have any questions on that, you can email me dhudson bloomingdellj.com uh.net, I'm sorry. Um also don't forget to sign up for recycle coach. It's on the main page of the website, the bottom
right hand side. The same with RAVE. Um bottom right hand side, that's our emergency notification um system. And also a reminder, which I have said a couple times now, if people have questions on how to reach employees and
individuals at the burrow, please refer to the burough website. Um Google does not necessarily work. So the burough website is the best place to get information on phone numbers and emails for anyone in the bureau. Actually on the Google website the phone number is
incorrect. Yes, it's incorrect for a lot of department but we never set that up. Um so that's just whatever. Um but we've had a number of people asking for contact information and we really just are trying to refer
everyone to the website because everything is on there and updated. Okay, that's all I got. Okay. Uh, the board of ed had their May meeting where they recognized three outstanding teachers who had received the governor's
educator of the year award. Uh, Sage Donnelly, Shannon Gomez, and Gabriella Herbert. They also recognized two specialists who were awarded by the governor's award, uh, Lauren Podik and Janine Cider. So it was a nice meeting,
a lot of recognition from some hardworking individuals in the school district. Uh so as far as uh the environmental commission is concerned, I know we heard the close of last week and public comment discussion on the Beaver Culver
at uh Oakwood and uh we did get the EP approval letters to start that project. I know Mike's got some work to do for pricing out the material list, but hopefully you guys will see something in the coming meetings on moving forward with addressing that situation. Uh, a
lot of thanks to Patrick from the environmental commission for that. And then that obviously you heard with Wreck, we have the lacrosse program that we're going to be uh discussing tonight. We have a new ordinance and I think they've got a sound bath coming up on the 10th.
is interesting. June 10th, what is it? It's like a a healing and yoga event going on where it's like sound healing and like brass Tibetan play bowls. Supposed to be very soothing and calming. Summer solstice. Yes. See, there there it is. Summer solstice.
Yeah. On June 10th, I believe it is. So that's that's all I have right now for wrecking in environmental. Yep. Um, Catherine and Belly, they're finishing it up. They're milling and paving this week. Probably wrap it up next week.
Uh, Bo Pun, we are looking to do a official grand opening on the 14th. Uh, right now it's technically at 9:30 in the morning. Um, I'll send out some invites to the county uh to see if any of the commissioners want to come up because obviously they got us the open
space grants to help us. Yeah, I remember I told we definitely would invite them. Couple little punch items, very minimal. U with the fencing. You have to put some caps, secure caps, otherwise we're feeding end up in the pond.
And then they got to do some more soil and uh some seeding. They're going to hydro seed around there. They lost a lot of the seed. So, all the rain had they just put it down because torrential rain. So, and then I'm looking to we have money left over. I don't know how much yet of the
grants up there um of the open space funding that is from the county and I'm looking to get a actually a nod from this committee here the govern body to go back to the county with a letter asking if we can reappropriate some of the funds due I'd like to take the
papavers route that go from go through the middle of the park uh go from Sandy Lane to Bow Drive uh cuz a lot of the papers end up in the lake uh kids are picking them up the ones that used to go through the center is now concrete sidewalk. Uh so I fig we just massive
concrete. Um so that's we got to get a number for that and then they want to do a camera system up there as well since we just spent a million dollars. We have a lot of issues up there with vandalism and the basketball court stuff like that. So we like to put cameras up there and then I figured we could try and we
have money there and it's county money or open space money for us. uh try and get the money to replace the fountain that we did, but then replenish our rose fun with put our money back in the rose fun and use the open space money for the fountains. There's that much left over.
There is. Yep. Is it advantageous for us with the other open space projects down at what I'm going to do if they allow that? I know where you're going. Anything that's left over, I'm asking them to reappropriate down to delay to cover that whole thing. if there's anything
left with the park on one down there. We have we got money from them for that and we got the LRNG grant uh for that project as well and if we reappropriate what's left whatever left after that we'll put that towards the grant we just got for the grand stand side and the
back stops and stuff like that. Yeah, we just got aund $80,000 open space for this year for that project. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah. So if everybody's on board with that, I'll send a letter
and ask plan if they can appropriate that those funds for us. Yeah. Can you guys go with that? So just to be clear, you have to figure out the laser cost first. No. And these other items or you just No, I just got
to figure out what the cost is for both the three things I want to do that we want to do. I want to do we want to get the town. Uh and then ask them if we can reappropriate some of the money for that to cover those those three expenses for us. And if there's anything left,
reappropriate what's left to delay your uh playground. The way it works is the project is the playground project, right? It's set for the scope of work within that project. You go outside that you got to get permission to use even though it's still in the same park. Is our likelihood
higher for doing the three projects there close to the current project than having it moved to another location? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. We don't want to let I think we'll get approvals for all of it. Okay. They will because they'd love to upgrade parks. We've done we've done we've tried this in the past with
both basketball. We bought benches, tables that they wanted us to spend the money. So I don't see them saying no. I have a question. The um bathrooms this is part of it. No no that's the the other
secure that's a separate only separate project. And then that project are the bathrooms going to be able to be accessible like bigger entrances? That's what we need to talk about. That's what we secure money for. We need to put plans together for that now.
Third open. That's the third open space. Third open space. Yeah. Two years. Two playground and then about two years away. About two years. Yeah. You get an award. We got two years to do it. Uh one question on uh Vogue.
Are I understand the 14th will be the grand opening, but we're going to be doing a soft opening prior to that as long as it's ready to go. Correct. No, we were just going to do it. Right. We Yeah, because there's still the work that has to be done is not going to be done in a week. All right. Cuz they're scheduled to do other work and then once
they go and do their punch work, we got to go back and have it inspected. So the time that's all done, we'll be ready to do the ground. Okay. Right. That is we're going to do the morning of the Sloan Park fest down there. We didn't
want to obviously interfere with that. They do that probably in the morning. People get after the turnout with kids. Um also we're going to invite right to treat them. Yeah. Um Elijah, the little boy that passed away
tree and honor him by the new playground. And then we also put the little library back. We did. That's back in there that we dedicated to um Delane. Yep. And actually another we were going to purchase a new sign
park sign match all the other signs we just redid the town saying type thing. So that's that's also part of that and I don't know if you might have to look at it. I've been going out there pretty much a couple times a week just to see the progress. It's beautiful. It
is. It's beautiful. Mhm. There's some little ones. I get emails every day. I can I can name it. I'm getting them on social media as well. Crazy. So, just be patient. It's coming. Yeah. So,
all right. Anything else? No. Thank you. You want update on Catherine? I did. You did that. Sorry. Okay. Um Amy, anything? Nothing this evening.
Oh, I'm sorry. If anyone Oh, you guys came to know later. This is Daniel Canning. He's an intern at our office for the summer and he's just here to see how local government works. She picked the right town. Of course, I
picked the right town. Evening, Daniel. Um I had the opportunity to swear in um Clintette as the she was nominated to be the SR O officer of the day at the school. So, we
brought her in here last Thursday and swore her in as the officer of the day. And I don't know if you watch it on social media, but she got to um ride along and participate in events through our police department and she had a
great time. So, it's a really nice program that started I think that started up last year. Yep. And they're going to continue it and it was nice. Yeah. If I can expand on it because I I happened to get to encounter her during the day while she was doing it. It uh it happened to be the day of the
kindergarten and uh play or end of the year show and she got to be security for the door for entrance in and out along with our SRO and it was I think she did really well. Yeah, she she looked like she really enjoyed it. Strong good young individual. They had her outside doing
calisthenics outside, push-ups. She was right with the guys cuz they go a whole through a whole regiment in the morning when they the shifts change and um she did everything. Very very nice. Very nice. Okay. Um if there's nothing else,
resolution item number 10, resolution 2025 6.1, the cassette agenda. Have a motion to for the cassette agenda. Second. Any questions? It's pretty simple. Roll
call. Rockers, yes. Catalano, yes. Rosiano, yes. Hudson, yes. Schubert, yes. Item number 11, A. Second final reading, public hearing, ordinance number 17-2025,
amended chapter 17, water and chapter 18, sewer rates, charges for service. Public statement, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. This ordinance was posted in the municipal building, published in the Herald News, and copies were made available to the public so that a motion may be made that it be
title. Do I have a motion to read by title? So move. All in favor? I an ordinance of the Bur of Bloomingdale to amend and supplement chapter 17 entitled water and chapter 18 entitled sewer of the revised general ordinances
of the burrow of Bloomingdale including a schedule of rates and charges for services rendered to the users of the water supply system and sanitary sewer system. Do I have a motion to open up public hear? So move second. All in favor? All right. Come on.
I didn't know I was going to come up. You're our best customer. I know. I'm custom. Okay. Mike, what about all the questions I asked you last week as far as the surplus that we have and as far as going
up 8%. And what other expenses are being transferred from the burrow to the water and sewer? Uh, I guess the last one first. There's nothing being transferred from general into water. So none of your none of your salary goes
there. None of my salary goes there. They we used to in the past. We used to have a part of mine, part of Bri or I should say B, part of the municipal clerk, part of treasurer, CFO, all went part of went in there 3 years ago or so. We changed that. We just put four
individuals in there. It's the superintendent of DW, the assistant super, the foreman of the water department, and the labor of the water department. So, make it easier on the county upstairs. It's four salaries that go into that. And it's the same number. It was about $475,000, whatever that
number was, that salary line was. Uh, so just easier on them. Instead of doing percentages out of the four or five other people in town, they just did four individuals into that work. Okay. Okay. Then I have to look at the budget then it should if I go back three years there should be a big increase in the salaries
for administrator for um there'll be an increase in Okay. Yep. And then your surplus. So last year we generated 23 we generated about 368,000
in surplus and we used 150 to offset last year's budget. Uh this year we had about a $500,000 surplus because we raised rents back in the end of 23 because of the reason and we are using
333 334,000 this year to offset the water budget which leaves about 125 in there and we're going up the operating surface surplus according to the your financials. Yep. was $671,029
as of December 31st, 2024. And if you're using 300,000, it leaves $371,000. Uh I have my fund balance was 521,000. [Music] That's direct as of December 31st, 2024.
And that's from finance. This this is our Yeah. Yeah. This is what's even online. Yes, this is on the web page. Anybody can get this. I did. And the total that's just December 31st. The total is a 671029.
[Music] 52129 on balance. [Music] 671. Oh, you're looking at the You're not looking at the annual financial statement. You're looking at what the
budget was. Okay, this is the financial statement that the auditor did. This is what actually this was 2024 according this was on the budget for that's under 2024. It's not the audit amount. So I know the audit amount is different but
that's 671,29. And here there's our mom looking at the 521 which tell me that's what the fund balance is which we need the surplus this year. That's what I mean in total that's our surplus 5.1 and we're using
333 of it. I guess we'll have to get financial statements. Mhm. But the reason we're going up obviously we as the mayor stated we did have a increase from the sewer authority. How much? Uh about $82,000
increase. And what percentage is that? Uh that's about 4 and a.5%. So we're all going up 8% to cover 4 and 1/2%. No, let me let me finish that. So that gets taken care of in the operating the OE operating expense line.
So our operating best line last year was the [Music] 2,91,431. This year's operating expenses is the same 2,9001431. What we did in the finance department,
they cut 81,000 plus 82,000 out of all the other lines to make the OE because that's what we were directed by the budget committee to do to bring the OE in flat. So, we cut other lines and that's what they're nervous about because other lines we went over with last year and if we go over this year,
we are going to be in the red. The bond principle, we went to permanent bond last year. Uh, our bond principal payment last year was 150,000. This year, this is outside of uh is now $390,000. So, it's a $240,000 increase. Yeah. to
bond interest went up $8,000. Uh what's the total bond interest? Uh what we're paying, we paid $237 last year. We're paying 245 this year. So it's $8,000 increase on interest. So 245 and 300. So overall water budget went up
really 5% on 2024 to 2025. Went from 3.9 to 4.2 is what we're asking for in the budget this year. No, eight. Well, the increase of 8%. We're the budget went up 5%. We have other things that that take effect in there that we're not looking at is we
have statemandated testing that has to be done for the department of environmental protection. Uh that we're we're lead paint uh lead I mean lead water and lead pipes. Uh so that we have to we sign a contract uh for x thousands
of dollars which company H2M to run all the reports for us and keep us on track. We have a 10-year plan to get to every single household to see every single meter and every single line coming in to make sure it's not lit. Uh we have to do 10% of those a year. Uh material costs
obviously are up uh with things going on the national level. Uh and obviously that affects our water breaks. Uh we've had multiple order breaks this year already uh on Main Street. Uh we had three in the last two months here. Uh and obviously we have outside fender
that comes in and pays for us. So, as those costs go up, payment goes up. Obviously, our rates are going up. And what we're being told by our auditors and by our finance and CFO is that we need to raise 8%. I guess also the salary is going up 3%
for 3%. That's another Yep. Salary went 3%. We went from we had 475. Uh, so they went 15,000 to 490. Uh, which is 3%. Uh, so you're correct on that statement. Um, and that's
and just one caveat if I wrote here if we would have stayed with the same valley water, it would have been worse because they're charging us almost two times what they're charging for. See now when the budget comes out with these 3% raises where Mr. Catalano said that's never going to hurt our budget.
We'll see how much it hurts our budget this year. Those are the words I used. That just want to be clear that don't the words I used. You said it wasn't going to affect us. [Music]
Anyone else? We got extra money. No, we're not there yet. No, no, just for the water. This is just the water. Wait, wait. We're approving an ordinance. within the ordinance there's an open public hearing
regarding just the ordinance. So when we get to that stage of open public you can come up and ask questions about the ordinance. I see no one motion to close. Second. All in favor. Motion for adoption.
So move second. Any questions? Roll call. Catalano. Yes. Rosiano. Yes. Hudson. Yes. Short. No. Robert. Yes.
Can I ask a question? Can I have to vote how you like? What would you do to rectify the problem if we can do this? Um, just the increments seem I mean obviously yes
there there's no way around the increase but to just seems a lot for for us being that you know our water bills already so high and these are um
[Music] this is just to keep us out of the red. Okay. So we can pay our bills to continue to upgrade our systems. All right. I gave you for example the pipe on between Warren and Catherine on on
Elizabeth Elizabeth Street the Cath street side excuse me there was 2in galvanized pipe which were forced to replace all comes out of the the water department budget which we did last year down Catherine that's being paid as part of the project for the cast project but
we did the water side way before all the stuff they were doing all these upgrades that we have to do to get rid of galvanized pip make sure that averages is about $100,000 when you combine it all together. Yeah. So, we have to fulfill our obligation or we're going to
be I would say in trouble and then you got to use general funds to to get out of the taxes are going up. Nobody nobody on this on this council wants to see an increase. There was many years going back Mayor Dunley days and before that
that we didn't increase water at all. We're pretty stable. But as you start doing all these infrastructure projects, Hamilton Street, Chestnut Street, Warren Street, um Orchard, Orchard Street, we did Boston Street back 15 water brings on Boston Street going back was there
was a hole that was ft deep. As far as the engineers, are they proactive as far as checking these things before they like Were they these anticipated breaks or you know completely? It was because the system was 100 years old. Okay. And
before we got involved going back now I don't mind any project being done but we need to upgrade our infrastructure. If our sewer lines are not upgraded and we don't do that our sewer lines were falling apart. So when it rains where's that water go in our sewer pipe. our
sewer pipe and we get charged by the the sewer authority for for our water benches getting in there by doing all the improvements we make we're making we're keeping our our our sewer system that is just for sewer products that go
through there all right almost all of the flats I'm we got to pay for it I understand I still want to be a no because you I'm feel that you know with all of you know we're doing a lot of other improvements And there's other like police department and other things
that we want and um you know I I'm not part of the budget committee so I I don't know obviously something that you guys have to do but that's my Okay, that's fine. I just wanted to see if we're maybe had an idea that we can get around the 8%. Um to help out with Mike
and the budget committee we went through this and finance through the whole thing and this is where it came down to. Um just a question is Butler also getting that that type of increase or just us like all four towns Butler Riverdale Kim and
a small part of that river and the sewer authority regional sew authority that that hits all the towns and I just want to let you know I spoke to one of our representative because each town has a representative the sewer authority I spoke to them and he said it's only
going to get worse because all the mand mandates coming down from the state that they have to fulfill. So if they cost them money, where's that going to roll to? When they do a major fix like they just did in Butler last year on the railroad tracks and through
the main street they had to shut down for a couple months that was all sewer related. We all eat that bill. We're all part of the authority, not just part of the bill. They'll split evenly. Same thing when they come here and work on ours. They'll cover our cost as well. They share part of the authority. We all
share the cost. And the other sad part about it is we don't have enough users to offset the cost big time. We have a small amount of users but we all share that capacity and we have capacity and we have capacity to build. So okay
we do not have any new business. So do I have a motion to open up late public comment? Did we finish the voting? I thought we did. Yeah. Yeah. We did. No. But didn't you say you had a something late? Oh yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Um yes, the
non-aggenda item. Uh I need a motion to read by title the ordinance change for our recreation program chapter 2 administrative section of 2-64 11 fees for recreation programs. We have a motion. So moved. Second. All in
favor? Uh an ordinance of the barell and the county of the state and city of New Jersey amending chapter 2 administration section 2-64.11 fees for recreation programs of the code of the borrowing. Okay. And that will be
[Music] June 17th. Okay. It came at a perfect time. Make public comment. I have a motion to make public comment. Second. All in favor? I
[Music] address. Yes. Yes. Jasper 125 Redford Trail. Um about Bo Pond. So if there's big excess, can we get like a basketball courts like children's size? because my
kids go there and those things are 10 feet high and they stare at them like what am I going to do? Can they put them on the sides? That's one. And then the pond is being used a lot. Like I drive by a lot, right? There's always people fishing there now. It's constant. So it's part of that maybe like there's like a little fishing pier on the side
where like it's all marsh something so that people can access more of the lake. And then at the um end where it goes the outflow goes into Oakwood Pond, you know, where the poison ivy's like crazy. Take care of that. So like there's maybe like a platform or something like where the cement is um so that people can
stand on. Would you think that other body can make decision if they want that otherwise it's good for kids? I like the dock idea like we have in Oakwood then they can get out actually on the lake for kids like it just gives them more basketball court. I don't know if
we can we have to see where that money's coming from. Oh that's not part okay. All right. So that's like a pond then we had an open space grant about two years ago or so for actually three years ago now for the gold pond basketball court and we redid that with open space. And
then um I'm also thinking like uh with the higher fishing pressure, right? Maybe we put warm water fish in there like you know we have the people come already that deal with the chemicals in the lake. Correct. They can also you know put bass in there because there's only like 10 of them. There's a ton of bass in there. I mean I'm telling you
not a lot. So, I mean, I I think I'm I'm pretty capable. It's not as good as what it should be, you know, based on the pressure. I mean, they're getting hammered. And the only way to alleviate that a little bit is like maybe some of the small ones go or a larger one goes
when they, you know, come and do their job. I hope they're not taken. Well, also that' be another one, catch and release, right? Because we can put regulations on the on the water vines in town, right? I don't know that. I don't know how you I'm pretty sure the town can like in Pennsylvania, they have it. So maybe we do move to catch and release with the lake, right? Except for the
trout, whatever, you know, like they can take those, but like the bass, I know they have this in Pennsylvania, some of the lakes like where they stock the trout, they're going to die. You can take those out. But the pond, like for the warm water, cooler fish that could live, it's catch and release for those cuz I do know that people take out the bass. I've seen it. I'm like, you know,
it takes a long time for the thing to go from this stop to this and then it's yanked out. It's like, come on. There was a juvenile eagle fishing that pond. Well, that's different a year ago, too. Ham doing a pretty good job of it. That's a natural one. We can't get upset about that. But yeah. Yeah. No, it's totally understandable. There isn't as
much bass in that as there are other waters in the region. Yeah, I think I mean it's pretty deep in there, right? And I can fit. It's deeper in Oakwood. All right. Relative. Everything's deeper than fish can survive in there. And there's always like a couple big deeper in. Yeah. I mean, anything. Yeah. So
like I don't know maybe get that better ch you know put you know regulations on it to stop people from taking them out because you know people do come at night in Oakwood they take the car out like what are you doing? So consideration. All right. And then about the sewer, right? Is there a way with the sewers
like to like they have mapping right of like when stuff was like put in repaired, right? Is there a way like to like roll through it? Cuz I'm sure it's much more expensive to fix something when it's an emergency. Correct. Like it's like to get here. Yeah. Like my friend the plumber, he's like, "Yeah, I love it. Boiler goes out, you make three
times the amount, right?" But is there a way to try to keep those expenses at bay? And we know we're going to get hit with water main breaks and stuff, right? To proactively go after like I guess the Boston's like a worst offender, right? But to go after ones that based on like looking at everything and like what
engineers know, but look at the age. Yeah. Look at number of bricks that were on that road and that's what determines if we go and fix it, replace it. So we are proactive like I can tell you like Hamilton Orchard all the ones we did now Boston Street and um Park AB we did all
that because that is the oldest section of town. All right. So now that is utilities wise that is the newest section of town. All right. And now next year we're doing over on Ellen and and so there there's targeted effort right.
Yeah. We just don't, you know, our water department, we sit there, we know, like I go back to Boston Street because it was break and nothing was ever fixed. The first thing we did when John was here is we went in and we redid actually, you know, when John first got on council, I think Linda was on the
council when we did that was Mark Conlin was still here. Um, we did Boston Street because there was so many breaks on the street. It was the first one we got because it was horrendous. Yeah. Probably two breaks in emergency is what it would cost to like fix the whole thing. Sure. Right. To to replace sewer
and water down one street is probably more than a half a million dollars. So question Main Street is that that's an issue, right? So when they do all the paving and the resurfacing of the road and they mill it down, like can't some of that like the worst stuff there be done at the same time or is that that's
on usense county? I'm just trying to Everything on the top is a county. Everything from the curb in or out I should say the properties is us. Okay. So everything under the ground is
us. The county has nothing to do with it. Okay. And we haven't had that many street just I want to get it all news. I can just keep right here. But uh the work that was done last night if you saw that that
was from the last water man right there. We just went in and when the water man break that they tempted everything out to get crystal fresh out. So that was a plan. All right. Fix last night. And also by finding that break we found more gallonized pipe. All right. So do it
while you're there. We did. We don't make another hole. Yeah. So we did. All right. And and then with the shared costs, right? Like on that is it like 25 25 like equal percentage or is it on population? Bet population. Just making cuz you never know. Yep. Bloomville and
Butler are about 30 something% and then Riven K1 are below that like 38 34 22 and 28 and whatever the numbers fall out. All right, fair enough. No, that's all just throw that out there. But yeah, if you guys are on your just fingers crossed cuz it was a lot. It was like
three in a row. I'm like, well, what's going on here? We got a lot of water coming up. All right. And there was one on also on book and read back maybe a month ago. The table rises as high as it has. So winter's over. Yeah, we have a lot of water in the table. It doesn't It doesn't help. Lot of water. All right.
Okay. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. See no one else. Um motion to close public com. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. Um our next meeting is June
17th um at 7:00. Have a motion to object. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. Appreciate it.