##VIDEO ID:Y0rcIGP9Ebc##  EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER TONIGHT AS DECEMBER 9TH, 2024. THANKS FOR EVERYBODY JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL AND THANKS TO EVERYONE JOINING US ONLINE AND WATCHING. WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU ARE ABLE PLEASE STAND REMOVE ANY COVERING AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  ONCE AGAIN WELCOME AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO IS WITH US TONIGHT COUNCIL OUR AGENDA FOR EVENING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO APPROVE AS WE MOVE INTO THE BIT INTO THE MEETING OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT WE'VE GOT TWO OR THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNDER ITEM THREE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE NO HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THIS MEETING BUT UNDER ITEM FOUR UNDER ORGANIZATION OF BUSINESS WE DO HAVE FIVE ITEMS IN A 4.1. WE WILL GET AN UPDATE ON OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND IN 4.2 WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER UPDATE THIS BEING ON THE FLEET GARAGE PROJECT ITEM 4.3 WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON THE 2024 TAX LEVY AND BUDGET AND THAT'S ONE WE'VE WE HAD TO PUSH OFF FROM LAST MEETING JUST AS WE GOT IT IN THE EVENING. SO WE'LL FINISH THAT UP. THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT IN ADVANCE OF OUR TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING NEXT WEEK ITEM 4.4 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER TRANSITION AND WE'LL WRAP UP AS WE DO WITH ITEM  4.5 THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED IF NOT I WILL MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NOR FOR THE COUNCIL ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA AND ON THAT AGENDA THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM TWO CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WITH OUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT AS I CATCH HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF TAKING HIS JACKET OFF AND I HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON PLEASE COUNCILMEMBER THERE BUT I MOVE ITEMS 2.1 TO 2.3 OF A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THE SECOND ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT OF BUSINESS AS STATED ITEMS 2.1 THROUGH 2.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER RUELAS MOVING ON TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEM 4.1 AN UPDATE ON OUR ANNUAL ENERGY ACTION AND ADDRESS IS COMING FORWARD TO LEAD THIS CONVERSATION KNOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE JOINING HER AS WELL. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME.  THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M HERE WITH JAMEELAH BOO ALI AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABLE COMMISSION, ANGIE BOGART AND WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE THE ANNUAL UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE ENERGY ACTION PLAN. AS A REMINDER WELL WE'RE GETTING THE SLIDES UP. THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL BACK 2018 SO EACH YEAR WE COME TO COUNCIL AND DISCUSS WHERE OUR GOALS ARE AT WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST YEAR FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IN THE NEXT YEAR PERFECT SO OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IN 15 MINUTES WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH THE HIGHLIGHTS SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A REMINDER OF THE GOALS PLAN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRESS OUR GOALS. MORNING IT'S IT'S THE BEST NEWS UNIMPLEMENTED STRATEGIES THEN HAVE SOME TIME FOR Q&A SO AS A REMINDER WITH OUR IN THAT ENERGY ACTION PLAN IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE SET CLIMATE GOALS FOR THE CITY SO WE HAD OUR OVERARCHING GOAL FOR THE CITY TO REACH CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050 WHICH WAS SET BY A RESOLUTION IN ALIGNMENT THE PARIS AGREEMENT FOR THE PLAN SPECIFICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A 75% REDUCTION IN CITYWIDE ENERGY RELATED GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM A 2016 BASELINE AND THEN ON TRANSPORTATION PRETTY IT WAS PURSUE ALL OPPORTUNITIES WE DIDN'T HAVE SPECIFIC DATA AT THAT BUT WE WERE LOOKING INTO THESE SUPPORTING BIKE AND PED INCREASED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MIXED USE ZONING AND TELECOMMUTING SO FOR IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION UPDATES WE HAVE ENERGY USE FIRST JAMILA IS GOING WALK US THROUGH 1 TO 4 UNIT RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. THAT'S HOW WE GET DATA THE ENERGY UTILITIES SO THAT'S HOW WE TRACK IT. THEN THEY'LL PROVIDE SUMMARY OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE WITH OUR CITY FACILITIES AND THEN WE'LL END TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.  I WILL PASS IT ON TO JAMILA. GOOD AND WELCOME.  GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS AS A REMINDER RESIDENTIAL ENERGY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE THIRD OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN BLOOMINGTON AND IN RESIDENTIAL ENERGY THAT INCLUDES 124 UNIT PROPERTIES. SO SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX TRIPLEX QUAD AND ALSO TOWNHOMES AND CONDOS. SO EACH YEAR WE GET DATA FROM CENTERPOINT AND XCEL ENERGY AND IN 2023 THERE WERE 2300 ENERGY EFFICIENCY ACTIONS THROUGH CENTERPOINT ENERGY PROGRAMS AND 2600 ENERGY EFFICIENCY ACTIONS THROUGH XCEL ENERGY PROGRAMS.  IN ADDITION, OVER 2000 RESIDENTS PARTICIPATE IN AN OPTIONAL PROGRAM TO PAY EXTRA TO SOURCE ENERGY FROM RENEWABLE SOURCES.  AND AS FOR THE TIME OF SALE ENERGY DISCLOSURE PROGRAM, WE'RE NEARING THE END OF OUR THIRD YEAR AND AS A REMINDER THAT PROGRAM ISSUES ARE A REPORT ON ENERGY USE AT THE TIME OF SALE AND PROVIDES RESIDENTS WITH FREE SUPPORT SERVICES TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDED UPGRADES. SO OUTREACH ON THIS PROGRAM INCLUDED OUR FARMERS MARKET AND ALSO HOSTING OUR SECOND ANNUAL HOME ENERGY WORKSHOP THAT YOU CAN SEE PICTURED.  WE ALSO SENT OUT A FALL MAILER AS WE USUALLY DO BUT THIS YEAR WE HAD AN ELECTRIFICATION LETTER TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO LOOK INTO BENEFICIAL ELECTRIFICATION UPDATES AND THIS WAS SENT TO RESIDENTS THAT HAD HIGHER ENERGY SCORES THAN THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS AND AS OF THIS MORNING 3015 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.  AS FOR HOME ENERGY SQUAD, THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES DIRECT INSTALLATIONS OF ENERGY SAVING PROJECTS PRODUCTS AS WELL AS AN ENERGY AUDIT TO BLOOMINGTON HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS IN 1 TO 4 UNIT PROPERTIES AND THE BLOOMINGTON HRA CONTINUES TO BUY DOWN HALF THE COSTS OF THIS VISIT AND PARTNERS WITH THE UTILITIES THIS YEAR WE WANT ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR NORMAL OUTREACH TO MEET RESIDENTS WHERE THEY'RE AT TABLING AT PARKS LIBRARIES, EARLY LEARNING EVENTS AND MORE. AND WE ALSO TESTED A NEW METHOD TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION.  WE REQUESTED PARTICIPATION DATA BY CENSUS BLOCK GROUP FROM XCEL ENERGY AND WE FOUND THAT SEVERAL TRACTS HAD ZERO PARTICIPATION IN HOME ENERGY SQUAD.  SO WE CHOSE TWO OF THOSE TRACKS AND WE DID DOOR KNOCKING IN THOSE AREAS AND WE GIFTED RESIDENTS WITH LIGHT BULBS AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR AN ENERGY AUDIT AND WE'RE HOPING THAT NEXT YEAR WE'LL CHECK THE DATA AND SEE IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE DOORKNOCKED IN AND THE ONES THAT WE DID NOT AND IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THE HELP OF OUR BLUE AND BLOOMINGTON INTERN MEGAN BANK AS WELL AS SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSIONER BONNIE ATAR. YOU AND IN IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S ENERGY ACTION PLAN GIVEN THAT EQUITY IS A PRIORITY WE ALSO FOCUS ON CONNECTING RESIDENTS WITH ENERGY AFFORDABILITY RESOURCE IN ADDITION TO FOCUSING ON REDUCING ENERGY USE.  AND IN THE PAST YEAR WE'VE WORKED TO MAKE QUALITY MATERIALS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AND TO DEVELOP NEW PARTNERSHIPS TO BE SURE THAT BLOOMINGTON KNOW HOW TO AVOID HEAT SHUTOFFS IN THE WINTER AND ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO STATE ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS THAT HELP TO PAY THEIR BILLS. AND WE ALSO ASSIST RESIDENTS WITH HOME WEATHERIZATION TO REDUCE THEIR USE LONG TERM OR WE HELP CONNECT THEM WITH THE WEATHERIZATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT DOES THAT. WE'VE ALSO ESTABLISHED PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS OFFICE OF EDUCATIONAL EQUITY EARLY LEARNING, THE LIBRARIES, VEEP AND MORE IN ORDER TO GET THIS INFORMATION THERE.  AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDE INCREASED OUTREACH THE SOMALI AND CAMBODIAN COMMUNITIES WHERE MANY HAVE NOT HEARD OF THESE PROGRAMS BEFORE. OMAR THANK YOU JAMILA.  AND BEFORE WE GET TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE PAST AND A HALF HAVING JAMILA ON THE TEAM HAS BEEN AMAZING AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN TO BUILD PARTNERSHIPS AND REACH OUT TO RESIDENTS THAT WE WERE NEVER INTERACTING WITH BEFORE. SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE THAT WORK STARTING AND CONTINUING ON OUR CLIMATE EFFORTS AT THE CITY SO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL YES SAME AS ME. DO YOU WANT QUESTIONS ON RESIDENTIAL NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE END? HOW DO YOU PREFER IT? WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER WE HAVE NO PREFERENCE.  WELL YOU COULD. WHY DON'T WE GO? YOU CAN ASK NOW I JUST HAD THANK YOU.  APPRECIATE IT. UM, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  SO ON THE TIME OF SALE ENERGY AUDITS I'VE BEEN KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THE HOW HOW WHAT FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED THE PROGRAM.  ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WHEN WE STARTED IT YOU KNOW WHO DOES IT ACTUALLY BENEFIT? SO IS THERE IS THERE INFORMATION THAT IS GIVEN TO THE SELLER WHO CAN THEN TAKE CERTAIN IF THEY WANT TO PRIOR TO PUTTING THEIR HOUSE ON THE MARKET FOR EXAMPLE? THAT WOULD BE ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO BENEFIT. THE OTHER WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT BUY THE HOME WOULD THEN HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND I'VE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY USE THAT INFORMATION TO DEMAND CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS BE MAKE TO THE HOUSE BEFORE THEY'RE WILLING TO SIGN THE CONTRACT OR IF IT HAPPENS AFTER THE FACT. I JUST I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE AN OF HOW THAT THAT INFORMATION IS ACTUALLY BEING USED IN THE BUYING AND SELLING OF HOUSES. ARE COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO.  GREAT QUESTION. SO WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR ANNUAL CHECK IN EARLIER TODAY WITH TIME OF SALE SO TODAY WITH THE MARKET THE WAY IT IS TO BE HONEST PEOPLE AREN'T THEIR NUMBER ONE THING ISN'T IS THERE INSULATION IN THE ATTIC BUT WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF EMAILS RECEIVED THAT PEOPLE ARE SELLING HOME, THEY'VE MADE UPGRADES AND THEY WANT TO UPDATE THEIR ENERGY REPORT AND HAVE THAT DOCUMENTED. SO THAT'S A GREAT FIRST TREND TO SEE. WE ALSO ARE SEEING FROM RESIDENTS WHEN WE DID OUR ANNUAL ENERGY WORKSHOP THIS SUMMER WE ABOUT 40 PARTICIPANTS AND WHEN WE ASKED WHO RECENTLY HAS BOUGHT THEIR HOME IN THE PAST YEAR THE MAJORITY OF HANDS WENT UP. WE ADVERTISED THAT CITYWIDE BUT WE ALSO DID DIRECT MAILERS THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND RESIDENTS ARE COMING AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT NEXT BECAUSE OF THAT PROGRAM SO IT'S NOT THE ONLY AVENUE PEOPLE ARE GETTING INFORMATION BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY STARTING TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THEIR SCORE AND WONDERING WHAT THEY CAN DO NEXT.  REAL QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION. ARE YOU LOOKING THEN WAYS TO KIND OF QUANTIFY THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF THESE LIKE SOME OF THESE TRENDS TOO? THEY'RE GREAT ANECDOTES OBVIOUSLY AND QUALITATIVE DATA IS AWESOME BUT I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT A WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT QUANTITATIVELY. I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A TWO PAGE REPORT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM CENTER POINT ENERGY HELPED US GET DATA TO ABLE TO TRACK THE WHO HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM, RECEIVED THEIR REPORT AND THEN MADE A RECOMMENDED UPGRADE FROM 22 AND 2023 AND WE JUST RECEIVED THE INFORMATION FROM CENTER FOR ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS THAT.  THERE'S AN ESTIMATED $17,000 THAT RESIDENTS ARE SAVING BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT THEY'VE MADE BECAUSE OF THE UPGRADES.  THANKS, MR..  SO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TWO THIRDS SO THIS IS A BULK OF WHERE OUR EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM ON ELECTRIC SIDE WE HAD ABOUT 300 ACTIONS AND WE HAD ABOUT HUNDRED ACTIONS ON THE NATURAL GAS SIDE. SO AGAIN EVEN THOUGH WE WERE SEEING A LOT MORE ACTIONS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, HAVING A LARGE BUILDING MAKE UPGRADES MAKES A BIG.  SO NEXT SLIDE WHICH WOULD BE ME.  SO WE HAVE OUR LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING PROGRAM SO THAT ALSO IS IN ITS THIRD YEAR WE WERE EXCITED TO REPORT THE HIGHEST SO FAR WITH THE PROGRAM SO WE HAD JUST OVER 85% AND COMPARING TO OUR PEERS HAVING COMPLIANCE IN THE THIRD YEAR OF A PROGRAM IS PRETTY GOOD. WE ARE NOW USING THAT DATA TO HELP WITH NEW OUTREACH TECHNIQUES. SO ONE EXAMPLE IS THAT JAMILAH WAS ABLE PARTNER WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HOUSE STAFF WHEN THEY WERE DOING THEIR ANNUAL HOTEL INSPECTIONS AND BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES HAD THE LOWEST SCORES AND PRIORITIZE STAFF TIME TO GO OUT AND SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT REBATES AND AUDITS PROGRAMS SO THAT'S ONE WAY WE'RE STARTING TO USE THIS INFORMATION TO BE A BETTER CONNECTION WITH THOSE PROPERTIES AND I WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK WITH AN UPDATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND THE FIRST FEW YEARS THE ENERGY ACTION PLAN WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON THOSE LARGEST PROPERTIES.  AN EXCITING THING THAT WE LAUNCHED THIS FALL WAS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT'S LOOKING AT MORE OF OUR SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZED BUSINESSES ORGANIZATIONS. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CENTER FOR ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT AND THEIR ONE STOP EFFICIENCY SHOP PROGRAM THAT ALSO WORKS WITH XCEL ENERGY. SO THERE'S A FREE AUDIT AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF STAFF AND THE C TEAM THAT WE WENT OUT AND WE SENT A MAILER EARLIER A FEW WEEKS BEFORE WE SHOWED UP AND TALKED TO BUSINESS OWNERS ABOUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY UPGRADES AND THAT THEY COULD HAVE A FREE LIGHTING AUDIT YOU KNOW ON THE SPOT PEOPLE TOOK US UP ON IT AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING REBATES AND INTEREST COME THROUGH. SO THAT'S A REALLY EXCITING NEW OFFERING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP COVER 20% OF AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECT UP TO 20 $500. SO ISN'T A HUGE AMOUNT BUT IT IS ENOUGH TO KIND OF GET PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT TAKING THAT ACTION SOONER.  WE ALSO HAVE MULTIFAMILY AND BUILDING EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS.  HOW DO WE TRACK THIS IN THE ENERGY WORLD? IS THAT FIVE PLUS UNITS ARE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUT RECOGNIZING A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE RENTERS AND MAKING SURE MULTIFAMILY ARE ENERGY EFFICIENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO HERE'S JUST TWO EXAMPLES OF OUTREACH MATERIALS OF SENDING DIRECT MAILERS,  PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN ALSO HAVING INFORMATION THAT RESIDENTS CAN SHARE WITH THEIR PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THAT FREE AUDIT PROGRAM THROUGH CENTERPOINT AND EXCEL. SO NOW CITY FACILITIES WE CONTINUE TO TRACK OUR OWN ENERGY USE AND AS WE KNOW SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE NOT THE MOST ENERGY EFFICIENT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM WE HAVE A OF OUR FEW OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE ON A TOUR WITH OUR ICE GARDEN MANAGER AND LENNY SHARING ABOUT THE UPGRADES WITH THE NEW RENOVATION PROJECT WHICH IS VERY EXCITING BECAUSE BEING AROUND THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT TRACKS OUR ENERGY USE BIG IS CURRENTLY NOT ENERGY EFFICIENT AT ALL SO VERY EXCITED FOR THE INVESTMENTS BEING MADE IN THOSE CITY.  I ALSO WANT TO CALL OUT THAT'S REALLY EXCITING WITH BRYANT PARK AND THE PARK BUILDING THERE THAT WILL BE THE FIRST BUILDING EVER THAT COUNCIL APPROVED TO BE BUILT WITH GEOTHERMAL AND SOLAR AND HAVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST AN AMAZING FIRST STEP TO BE PRIORITIZING WORK AND STAFF ARE ALSO LOOKING INTO WAYS THAT WE BE INCORPORATING MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY INTO PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH TO TRANSPORTATION LARGEST SOURCE OF OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. AGAIN AS I STATED ANY STRATEGY ESSENTIALLY UNDER THE SUN THAT WE CAN DO TO REDUCE EMISSIONS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO EARLIER THIS YEAR IN THE SPRING SEVEN NEW FORD ELECTRIC VEHICLES WENT INTO PLACE. WE HAVE SIX MORE THAT ARE WE'RE WAITING ON AND THAT ARE PURCHASED SO WE'RE MAKING MOVEMENT WITH OUR OWN CITY FLEET TO TRANSFER THAT OVER TO ELECTRIC. EARLIER THIS YEAR CITY ADOPTED ITS FIRST EV INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AND STAFF ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE CHARGING SMART PROGRAM WHICH IS A NATIONAL FREE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT HELPS CITIES TAKE AND ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THEM AND WORK THROUGH THE FIRST STEPS.  SO THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE STARTING IN THAT AREA THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN ALSO WAS APPROVED IN 2023 BUT AS ENGINEERING STAFF HAVE PRESENTED THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GREAT BIKE PROJECTS IN THE WORK AND ALSO SAFER TO SCHOOLS LOOKING AT SLOWING SPEEDS WHICH ALL MAKES THE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE GETTING AROUND BIKING, ROLLING, WALKING A SPECIAL PROJECT WE DID THIS SUMMER THAT WE STARTED WITH OUR BLOOM IN BLOOMINGTON IN TURN WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE TO PARK A CAR IN THE CITY BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON BIKE RACKS AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO BIKE TO A LOCATION DID THEY HAVE A PLACE TO PARK BECAUSE PARKING CAN BE IMPORTANT SO WE WORKED WITH OUR GIA STAFF AND MEGAN VAN CAO OUR INTERN WAS ABLE TO START DOCUMENTING ACROSS THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE BIKE PARKING AND THEN ALSO START TO TAKE PICTURES AND MEASURE TO SEE IF THE CURRENT EMPHASIS ACTUALLY IS MEETING THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS ESPECIALLY AS WE THINK ABOUT ELECTRIC BIKES AND CARGO BIKES BECAME MORE POPULAR PEOPLE MIGHT BE TAKING THOSE BIKES TO THE GROCERY STORE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO BE SUPERHUMAN TO CARRY ú50 OF GROCERIES AND YOU MIGHT BE GOING TO THOSE DESTINATIONS OF JUST RECREATIONAL TRAVEL. SO DO YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PUT A CARGO BIKE CURRENTLY FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING? NO. SO WE ARE CONTINUING COLLECT DATA SO THAT WHEN WE DO NEXT STEPS WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO START DEVELOPING STRATEGIES ALSO RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION EARLY THIS WE COMPLETED A STUDY AROUND OUR TRANSPORTATION RELATED GAS EMISSIONS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY ESSENTIAL TOOL BUILD UPON WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OF HAVING A BETTER ROAD OF WHERE OUR EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM, WHAT TRANSPORTATION LOOK LIKE TODAY SO THAT WE CAN PLAN MOVING FORWARD TO THAT NET ZERO GOAL. SO HERE'S SO DONE GREAT THINGS UNFORTUNATELY OUR PROGRESS TOWARDS GOALS NOT LOOKING GREAT SO HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT DATA NEXT IT'S A GRAPH FROM THE ANNUAL DATA THAT WE GET EXCEL IN CENTER POINT AND I WANT TO PAUSE AND SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UTILITIES BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD TRACK THESE WITHOUT INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDE TO US. SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING A GRAPH OF METRIC TONS OF CO2 EQUIVALENT HOW WE MEASURE GAS EMISSIONS AND THE BARS IN BLUE DARK AND DARK BLUE IS RESIDENTIAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS LIGHT BLUE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL THE GRAY AT THE TOP IS FROM CITY FACILITIES. SO WE'RE SEEING FROM 16 WE TRACK EACH YEAR WEATHER CHANGES THINGS RIGHT SOMETIMES IT'S HOT IN THE SUMMER, SOMETIMES WE HAVE COLDER.  THIS ISN'T WEATHER NORMALIZED BUT WE CAN START SEEING A TREND WE'RE MOVING DOWN WHICH IS GOOD IF WE LOOK AT WHERE OUR FOR 2035 IS THAT 75% REDUCTION AND THEN BRING OUR ATTENTION TO THE VERY STARTING IN 2017 WHEN WE START TO IMPLEMENT  TRACKING OUR ENERGY SAVINGS IN 2018 IS WHEN WE STARTED OUR ENERGY ACTION PLAN. THAT ENERGY SAVINGS LINE WITH THE BLUE DOTS IS TALLYING UP ALL THE SAVINGS FROM THE 300 BUSINESSES DOING ELECTRIC ENERGY EFFICIENCY UPGRADES, NATURAL GAS, ALL THE RESIDENTS THE 2000 SOME RESIDENTS HELPING BY SIGNING UP FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS. THE WHOLE COMMUNITY WORKS ON THIS RIGHT?  IT'S A HUGE COMMUNITY EFFORT BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE THAT'S GETTING US THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SAVINGS WE NEED TO GETTING EACH YEAR IT'S SO MUCH LARGER TO BE ON TRACK TO REACH THAT 2035 GOAL AND THEN ULTIMATELY NET ZERO AND 2050. SO THE TAKE HOME MESSAGE IS WE'RE DOING SOME GREAT WORK. WE'RE REALLY THINKING NEW STRATEGIES TO REACH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVEN'T IN THE PAST.  THERE'S SOME GREAT MOMENTUM HAPPENING BUT I'M UNFORTUNATELY THE DATA DOESN'T LIE WHERE WE SEE WHERE WE'RE THE SAVINGS AND WE REALLY NEED TO BE SEEING AN INCREASE IN MAGNITUDE OF EFFORT OVER ANY WAY GOING TO BE CLOSE TO REACHING THE GOAL THAT WAS STATED IN THAT PLAN.  SO THAT BRINGS US CLOSE TO THE END OF UNIMPLEMENTED STRATEGIES.  SO THE PLAN IS SIX YEARS OLD WE KNOW THAT FUNDED ACTIONS COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR PROVIDED STRATEGIC FUNDS TO FUND A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. STAFF ARE WORKING ON THAT RFP AND WORK ON DEVELOPMENT WILL START NEXT YEAR AND THAT WILL BE THE NEXT PHASE TO THIS PLAN BUT ALSO INCORPORATE A BROADER FOCUS ON CLIMATE NOT JUST ENERGY AND HOW WE CAN MITIGATE THE PROBLEM BUT HOW THE COMMUNITY CAN BE RESILIENT TOO AS WELL. CURRENTLY UNDERRESOURCED OR UNREACHED SOURCED INITIATIVES LOOKING AT THOSE LARGER THEY'RE STILL LEFT IN THAT DOCUMENT RESIDENTIAL FINANCE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROGRAM THAT'S HELPING PEOPLE FINANCE THOSE WEATHERIZATION PROJECTS. WE KNOW THAT OVER HALF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES NEED ATTIC INSULATION THAT'S SOMETHING WE CLEARLY KNOW THERE'S BENEFIT THERE'S FINANCIAL SAVINGS THERE'S PUBLIC HEALTH SAVINGS FOR INDOOR AIR QUALITY BUT IT COSTS MONEY, RIGHT? SO HELPING BE ABLE TO DO THAT ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DON'T MEET THE STATE QUALIFICATIONS FOR AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS BUT DON'T MAKE ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT FEASIBLE TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT THEIR HOME. SO THAT'S ONE LARGE PROJECT THAT CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE FUNDING ALSO SUSTAINABLE BUILDING POLICY THAT WAS SOMETHING THE PLAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET WORK STARTED YEARS AGO ON THAT AND THEN WAS PAUSED I'LL DIRECT YOU TO YOUR PACKET WHERE THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION WROTE MEMO TO COUNCIL OUTLINING THAT AND THERE'S QUESTIONS IN THE Q AND WE HAVE THE CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION WITH US HERE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BUT THAT IS THE SECOND I WOULD SAY LARGEST REMAINING STRATEGY IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN.  AND WITH THAT THANKS FOR WALKING THROUGH THIS UPDATE WITH ME AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER QUESTIONS. WELL THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE WORK BEING DONE AND I'M ESPECIALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PULLING A THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MEETING FACE TO FACE WITH RESIDENTS IS A GREAT STRATEGY TO GET THEM INVOLVED AND ACTIVE AND INTERESTED SO WELL DONE WITH THAT I MEAN I'M IMPRESSED WITH THAT THANK YOU. ARE SHOWING THE THE GRAPH THAT YOU SHOWED WITH THE GOAL.  I MEAN REALISTICALLY WHAT WOULD WHAT STEPS WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT ENORMOUS JUMP CONSIDERING ALL THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE NOW WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD HELP TO MAKE THAT JUMP? I SUPPOSE THAT REDUCTION THAT WE HOPE TO SEE MR. MAYOR COUNCIL IT ALL COMES DOWN TO RESOURCES SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DEDICATED STAFF TEAM RIGHT NOW SPECIFICALLY FOR CLIMATE. THERE'S MANY STAFF IN THIS ROOM AND OUTSIDE ROOM THAT ARE KEY MEMBERS TO HELP MOVE THIS WORK FORWARD.  BUT RIGHT NOW TO REACH THAT GOAL WITH THE STAFF CAPACITY WE HAVE WE'RE JUST LIMITED BY THAT AND ALSO RESOURCES IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR COMMUNITIES THEY'RE SPENDING A LOT MORE MONEY AND STARTING TO INVEST IN THESE AREAS IF YOU THINK OF STARTING A RESIDENTIAL HELP PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE FINANCE WORK THAT NEEDS HAVE FUNDING WE HAVE UNFUNDED RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS THERE'S JUST IT COMES DOWN TO STAFF EXPERTIZE AND TIME AND THEN FUNDING COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS HERE COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU. SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENTIAL FINANCING PROGRAM IS, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO OUR HOME LOAN PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THOSE DOLLARS COULD BE USED FOR THAT. SO WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT THAT THERE'S SORT OF A RESOURCE OUT THERE.  BUT I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HOW THAT WORKS. COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF HOW THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THAN THAT HOME LOAN PROGRAM? MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN IT COULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT PROGRAM.  I KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES ARE INCREASING THAT FUNDING POOL.  ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECTS CAN BE USED FOR THE HRA HOME LOAN PROGRAM AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE BEING USED ALREADY. BUT JUST THE SCALE OF THE FINANCING THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IT WOULD NEED TO BE AT A MUCH GREATER LEVEL TO BE ABLE TO REALLY DO THE OUTREACH TO SAY HEY WE CAN SIGN YOU UP TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE AND HERE'S THE FINANCING TO DO IT SO THOSE NUMBERS WOULD WORK WITH THE HOME LOAN PROGRAM WE'VE GOT FOR I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT START. THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T CAPPED AT CERTAIN INCOME QUALIFICATIONS SO SOME A CERTAIN PORTION IS FOR INCOME QUALIFIED BUT THEN ANOTHER PORTION IS AVAILABLE JUST TO THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS THEY HAVE FRANCHISE FEES THAT GO TO CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY TO DO FINANCING THAT'S A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL THAN WHAT OUR CURRENT HOME EFFICIENCY OUR HOME LOAN PROGRAM IS. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE CAN AT.  SO THERE'S DEFINITELY NEW IDEAS THAT WE COULD BRING TO THE TABLE BUT ALSO INVESTING MORE MONEY IN THAT CURRENT PROGRAM I SEE AS A POTENTIAL PATHWAY FORWARD. AND THEN FINALLY MAYOR,  IN TERMS OF WE LOOK AT THAT GRAPH, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED YOU KNOW, HAVING LARGER STAFF WHICH HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED YOU KNOW, TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BUT IN TERMS OF A PROGRAM SINCE THESE THE LAST TWO ONES I SEE ON PAGE 59 HERE OF THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE HERE BEYOND THAT FROM A FROM A PROGRAM STANDPOINT IS THERE A SPECIFIC PROGRAM WE SHOULD SUPPORT BEYOND THESE THESE TWO THINGS THAT WE AS A COUNCIL SHOULD BE LOOKING TO TRY TO DO TO KIND OF REALLY TAKE A BIG OUT OF THAT THAT NUMBER OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I THINK OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS THAT'S TO BE THE DOCUMENT WHERE WE'RE GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE BRINGING EVERYONE AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE KEY NEXT STEPS OF WHAT THOSE ARE IN THE INTERIM. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT HAVING MORE JAMILAH OR HAVING MORE STAFF TO GO AFTER GRANT FUNDING OR THINK ABOUT OUR INTERNAL FACILITIES TO FACILITATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN POLICY LEVEL LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO GET FUNDING FOR THIS WORK. THAT'S ALL WORK THAT COULD BE HAPPENING NOW BEFORE THE NEW STRATEGIES AND PRIORITIZATION WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I HAD A VERY SIMILAR QUESTION RELATED TO PRIORITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR US IN THE FUTURE. I FEEL LIKE I HEAR ALL THE TIME DIFFERENT IDEAS OF THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING NOT NECESSARILY FROM YOU BUT JUST IN GENERAL.  RIGHT. WE TALK ABOUT THEM UP HERE. RESIDENTS EMAIL.  THERE'S JUST THERE'S ENDLESS IDEAS FOR WHAT WE COULD BE DOING TO ADVANCE SUSTAINABILITY AND MITIGATE OUR IMPACT CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE CITY. AND SO FOR ME PERSONALLY WHEN I START TO THINK ABOUT IT I'M LIKE GOSH, WHERE DO WE EVEN START? AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CLIMATE PLAN THAT WILL BE CREATED AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE WILL BE SPECIFICS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND I WOULD HOPE SOME MORE SPECIFICS LIKE IF WE WANTED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS A CITY LIKE WHAT WOULD THAT REQUIRE? WHAT WOULD IT MEAN? IT WOULD MEAN ANOTHER STAFF PERSON. IT WOULD MEAN WE NEED $500,000 OR WHATEVER THOSE RESOURCE NEEDS ARE.  SO I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO TO COMMENT ON THAT AND I SAY OBVIOUSLY THE BUDGET SITUATION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IT IS IS VERY CHALLENGING AND SO I KNOW FOR PERSONALLY AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE APPROACH I TAKE IN GENERAL I WILL JUST NEED TO KNOW LIKE WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS, WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY FUNDING? BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THOSE AND VERY SUPPORTIVE AND CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN THE TIMELINE FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER?  SO RIGHT NOW STAFF ARE WORKING OR IS SELECTING THE STAFF LEADS FOR EACH CHAPTER SINCE THERE WILL BE WASTE AND URBAN FORESTRY IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE.  WE'RE WORKING ON THE RFP WE'RE LOOKING AT BY THE END Q1 HAVING A CONSULTANT FOR THAT AND APRIL SO THAT OVER THE THERE CAN BE BACKGROUND RESEARCH AND ALSO RECRUITMENT OF COMMUNITY GETTING THE WORD OUT BECAUSE THAT IS AN EMPHASIS OF THE PLAN AND MAKING SURE ENGAGING THOSE WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND THEN IN THE FALL HAVING MORE OF THE WORKSHOPS OR CONVERSATIONS AND THAT IT WILL FEED INTO 2026 TO GET THOSE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES AND GET TO A DETAIL OF SAYING OKAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, HERE'S A BUDGET, HERE'S A HIGHER LEVEL REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL AND THE ADDITIONAL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE THE NOTE ABOUT PUBLIC FACILITIES YOU HAD MENTIONED AND I'M JUST CURIOUS I BELIEVE WE'VE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING AS WELL. IT WASN'T IN THERE.  SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST CHECK, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING TO HAVE THOSE INSTALLED.  YEAH. COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO NEXT YEAR IS THE PLAN WE WERE HOPING FOR THIS YEAR. IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET EQUIPMENT THESE DAYS SO WE WERE WAITING ON SOME EQUIPMENT BUT THAT WILL THE PLAN IS FOR THAT TO BE HAPPENING YEAR.  OKAY. REGARDING TRANSPORTATION I WOULD I WOULD THINK I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE BUT I WOULD SURMISE THAT THE CITYWIDE LOWER LIMITS ALSO WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON ENERGY AS IT RELATES TO TRANSPORTATION JUST FOR THE OVERALL IMPACT OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON.  NUMBER ONE, AM I CRAZY TO THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE TRUE ? TWO IS THERE ANY PLAN THAT WE MIGHT BE TRYING TO LIKE QUANTIFY IN SOME WAY SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON SOME THESE THIS GOAL AS A RESULT?  I MEAN IT WASN'T WHY WE DID THAT BUT I WOULD I WOULD THINK IT HAD IT WOULD HAVE A BENEFICIAL IMPACT. I'M CURIOUS OF YOUR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO MOVING THE SPEED LIMIT DOWN. YES, THERE'S MORE EFFICIENCIES IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE LOWERING SPEED LIMIT. BUT I WOULD SAY STILL IF WE HAVING PEOPLE EITHER SWITCH TO ELECTRIFIED VEHICLES OR OTHER MODES OR IF WE'RE STILL HAVING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, THE DIFFERENCE IN SAVINGS OF KNOW SOMEONE GOING 25, 30 VERSUS 3540 IT'S NOT GOING TO SAVE THE DAY BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A BENEFIT QUANTIFYING MIGHT BE DIFFICULT BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO. I DON'T NEED YOU TO SPEND TIME ON THINGS THAT AREN'T SUPER HELPFUL BUT I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.  OKAY. LAST QUESTION FOR ME ON ON THIS AND THEN I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT IF THAT'S OKAY.  THE BICYCLING THE BIKING INFRASTRUCTURE, A PROJECT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL. THANKS FOR DOING THAT. HOW WE DOING IN TERMS OF OUR OWN FACILITIES AS IT RELATES TO BIKING INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE PARKS AND REC, PUBLIC WORKS, ANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT YOU KNOW THE CITY ITSELF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR?  COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I WOULD SAY WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL STANCE ON WHERE WE'RE AT. WE DID DO A SURVEY OF STAFF TWO SUMMERS AGO NOW ON WHO'S BIKE COMMUTING AND DO THEY HAVE THE FEEL CITIES THEY NEED? DEFINITELY SOME BUILDINGS ARE SET UP BETTER THAN OTHERS. FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NEVER COMPETING WITH ANYONE OVER AT PUBLIC WORKS FOR A SHOWER AND LOCKER SPACE. BUT I KNOW THAT OVER IN CIVIC PLAZA THAT CAN BE MORE OF A SPACE ISSUE. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY I WOULD SAY IMPROVEMENTS BUT THAT ISN'T SOMETHING WE HAVE FEEDBACK ON OF THE UPGRADES THAT WOULD NEED. DO WE HAVE A DO WE HAVE A REQUIRE PAYMENT SOMEWHERE IN OUR PARKS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR EXAMPLE THAT SAYS THERE NEEDS TO BE SO MANY BIKE YOU KNOW, RACK SEATS WHATEVER THEY CALL THEM LIKE SPACES I GUESS. I NOTED FOR EXAMPLE LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID GIRARD PARK UPGRADE TO THE THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT THAT ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PIECE OF FEEDBACK I GOT IMMEDIATELY AS I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AROUND TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT WAS I LOVE THAT I CAN I YOU KNOW IT'S MUCH BETTER BLAH BLAH BLAH BUT I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PARK MY BIKE LIKE THERE'S A RACK AT GIRARD THERE MAYBE NOW BUT AT THE TIME THERE WASN'T. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY EXPAND WHAT THAT PERSON IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW TO DO AN ASKED, YOU KNOW, AN ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THINGS LIKE PARKS AND OUR OWN FACILITIES.  COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBERS. OH SANDRA I FEEL LIKE AND OR SOMEONE FROM PARKS AND REC WOULD BE THE BEST TO ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC OF HOW THEY'RE TRACKING BIKE REQUIREMENTS FOR FACILITIES.  I KNOW THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A SUSTAINABLE BUILDING POLICY THAT CALLS OUT SPECIFICALLY REQUIREMENTS FORCE SUSTAINABILITY BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT MOST PARK PROJECTS ARE INCORPORATING RACKS AT THIS POINT. WELL LET ME ASK IT ANOTHER WAY IS THE MAPPING BICYCLE PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE COUNTING OUR OWN STUFF? YES. SO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS THE GIFT MAP THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.  SO WE DO HAVE THE LOCATION OF RACKS FOR CITY PARKS.  OKAY. SO WE COULD IF I ASK THE QUESTION HOW IS THAT LIKE YOU COULD GET THE DATA BECAUSE THE DATA IS THERE THE DATA IS THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.  LET'S PREMIER NELSON THE THINKING OF AS AS I CAN HEAR THE BUSINESS EFFICIENCY THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THAT PROCESS, WERE YOU ABLE TO TALK WITH THE LANDLORDS AS WELL WHO OFTENTIMES OWNED THE BUILDING A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES OR ARE A SPACE OUT AND MAY NOT BE IN A POSITION TO ACTUALLY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING. SO WERE YOU TALKING TO THE LANDLORDS AS WELL? COUNCIL NELSON SO WITH OUR FIRST OUTREACH EFFORTS JAMILA DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN WITH ANY DETAILS? YEAH SO WE WENT OUT TO SEVERAL BUSINESSES WE FOR THE MOST PART WEREN'T ABLE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH LANDLORDS. HOWEVER A OF THE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS LIKE LIGHTING OR LIKE GETTING A SMART THERMOSTAT OR THE REFRIGERATION UPGRADES DON'T REALLY REQUIRE THE LANDLORD TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE ABLE TO BE DONE BUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES LIKE A ROOFTOP UNIT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED SO YEAH.  GREAT. THANK YOU. JUST SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AS YOU MOVE FORWARD SO CAN'T DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE IN TERMS OF THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION CHART AND WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT AT ALL. JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT . WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE SOURCES FROM THE UTILITY AS THEY MOVE TO MORE AND MORE GREEN SOURCES?  IS THAT BEING REFLECTED IN THAT CHART? COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YES. SO ON THE NATURAL GAS UNFORTUNATELY THERE AREN'T THE SAVINGS THAT YOU CAN GET FOR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BUT EXCEL DOES HAVE GOALS AROUND DECARBONIZING THEIR ELECTRICITY. SO WE ARE UPDATING THAT WITH THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FACTOR IS UPDATED EACH YEAR BASED UPON WHERE THEY ARE FOR THE MIDWEST GRID. OKAY, GREAT AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE FINANCING AND HOW DO WE HELP BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS PAY FOR THIS?  I GUESS JUST A COMMENT I KNOW THERE'S LIKE A PACE PROGRAMS,  THINGS LIKE THAT OR WE HAVE OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND WHICH DOES MORE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT IF WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT IN A WAY THAT IS A REVOLVING FUND WHERE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BURDEN ON PROPERTY TAXPAYERS BUT IT CONTINUES TO GET PAID BACK AND THEN LOANED OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE LIKE SOME OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK COMMENT. LAST QUESTION AND I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER FROM THE NEW ADMINISTRATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON BUDGETS THAN IT IS ON INVESTING IN THE SUSTAINABILITY.  I THINK THAT'S A FAIR WAY OF PHRASING THAT AND WHAT IMPACTS DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAVE? AGAIN I DON'T NECESSARILY AN IMPACT OR A ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WE LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS BECAUSE SOME OF THE SOURCES OF OUR FUNDING INCLUDING OUR OWN PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, IF OUR ONE PROJECT IS DELAYED AND THEN THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS ARE CANCELED, ARE WE AT RISK OF LOSING OUT ON SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO BE MINDFUL OF AND ACCELERATE THOSE PROGRAMS IN MY OPINION. SO.  COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I WON'T. WE'RE AT THE AND ALREADY OVER TIME SO I WON'T GET INTO THAT BUT KNOW THAT WE TRACKING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES HOW MIGHT CHANGE AND THEN ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE THOSE PROJECTS SEEM TO BE HAD THE MOST FOR CONTINUING WITH FINANCING BECAUSE THEY ARE CREATING LOCAL JOBS AND THERE'S BEEN SUPPORT FOR THOSE FROM  MANY DIFFERENT POLITICAL BACKGROUNDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANKS FOR THE COMMENT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING WONDERING THE SAME THING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF WASHINGTON LOCALLY HERE. SO THANK YOU BECAUSE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS. WHY DON'T WE THANK OUR PRESENTERS AND THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND THANK YOU CONTINUE ON THANK YOU SO MUCH AND IN 4.2 IN OUR AGENDA IS AN UPDATE ON OUR FLEET GARAGE PROJECT TED WILLIAMS AND FRIENDS COMING FORWARD.  YES GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I'D TO INTRODUCE MIKE SCHILLING. HE'S WITH JAY LG AND HE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE UPDATE FOR THE FLEET GARAGE AND I'LL FOLLOW WITH SOME NEXT STEPS. MR. SHANNON GOOD EVENING. WELCOME .  GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR AND CITY STAFF AS DEB MENTIONED MY NAME IS MIKE SCHILLING, PRINCIPAL WITH GEOLOGY ARCHITECTS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING THE DESIGN PROCESS AS WELL AS THE PROGRESS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S NEW FLEET MAINTENANCE GARAGE THE FLEET.  I'LL GIVE A QUICK UPDATE AND REVIEW OF THE CITY'S STATISTICS AND WHERE WE'RE AT TO DATE THE FLEET MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS A 33,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE MAIN PUBLIC WORKS CAMPUS WHERE.  THE TWO PARCELS THAT SIT WERE CURRENTLY WHERE THE SALT AND THE SAP INC. BUILDING ARE SITTING ON THE EXISTING SALT SHED AND THE SAP BUILDING WILL BE DECONSTRUCTED. AND I'LL REVIEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS HERE IN A FEW MOMENTS AND THE SALT SAID WILL RELOCATED IN A NEW CONTAINMENT FACILITY BUILDING JUST SOUTH OF THE NORTH GARAGE. THE FACILITY IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND EFFICIENT OPERATIONS SO IT'S OPERATIONALLY EFFICIENT FOR FLEET STAFF AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHILE MAINTAINING AND KEEPING AN EYE ON WHAT FUTURE NEEDS ARE FOR BOTH STAFF OF MAINTENANCE MECHANICS AS WELL AS CITY VEHICLES FOR EXAMPLE THE ADDITION OF EVA AND HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE OUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS FOR THE ONES WE HAVE AND THE FUTURE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE VEHICLES MOVING FORWARD.  THE FACILITY IS DESIGNED AS WELL TO MAKE IT AN EXAMPLE OF CITY BUILDINGS BASED ON THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHERE OUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES AS WE MOVE THE PROCESS WITH A GOAL OF RE REACHING A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OUR ENERGY USE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SB 2030 MINNESOTA GOALS AS WELL AS OUR B THREE AND INITIATIVES.  ALTHOUGH THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO BE DOCUMENTED FOR LEED CERTIFICATION WE ARE USING THOSE AS GUIDELINES AND DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SEE MOVING FORWARD.  ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS THE DECONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON SITE. WE PLAN TO SALVAGE, REUSE AND DIVERT AS MUCH AS WITH A 75% REDUCTION TO OUR LANDFILL IN THOSE MATERIALS GROUPS,  NONPROFIT GROUPS AND SALVAGE COMPANIES COME IN AND, TAKE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. WE'RE REUSING AS MUCH OF WOOD FROM THE SALT SHED IN OUR NEW DESIGN AS POSSIBLE DIVERT AS MUCH AS THAT MATERIAL FROM GOING TO THE LOCAL LANDFILLS.  THE PROJECT KICKED OFF IN LATE JUNE WITH A PROJECT KICK OFF MEETING AND SINCE THEN IT HAS BEEN A COMPLETE COLLABORATION WITH FLEET STAFF IN THE DESIGN PROCESS WITH US IN THE ROOM GOING OVER WHAT THE NEEDS ARE ,HOW THEY OPERATE AND HOW TO MAKE IT A FIT AND EFFICIENT WELL-ORGANIZED BUILDING FOR SAFETY, WELL-BEING, EFFICIENCY FOR THOSE STAFF MEMBERS. WE STARTED WITH PROJECT TOURS THROUGH BUILDINGS AND OTHER FACILITIES THROUGH THROUGH THE LOCAL MINNEAPOLIS SAINT PAUL AREA AS WELL AS TAKING TIME SPENT SITTING WITH THEM ONE ON ONE TO LEARN THEIR OPERATION ON A DAY TO DAY ASPECT.  WE DID THIS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW STAFF UTILIZES THE EXISTING SPACE THEY HAVE NOW AND HOW IT CAN BE BETTER UTILIZED TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT, SAVED AND BETTER ORGANIZED FOR THEM IN THE FUTURE.  WE TOOK A LOOK AT AND WE HAD MODELS SET OUT ON THE FLOOR AND WE WERE ORGANIZING WATCH SPACES GO TRAFFIC FLOW AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN PATTERNS THROUGH THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WE SEE THERE. WE ORGANIZED THE BAYS BASED ON EFFICIENCY OF WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING, HOW THEY'LL BE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, THROUGHOUT CURRENT OPERATIONS AS WELL AS LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.  SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DECIDED TO DO WORK ON ITS OWN FIRE ENGINES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE BAYS THAT WE CAN WORK ON THE LADDER TRUCK FOR EXAMPLE, AS WELL AS EVE AND EV CHARGING STATIONS AND EVE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE BAYS NEED SPECIAL ACCESSORIES LIFTS AND BATTERY HOLDERS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THOSE TYPES FACILITIES.  WE ARE CURRENTLY FINISHING UP SCHEMATIC DESIGN MOVING INTO DEVELOPMENT WHICH MEANS WE'VE GOT THE BASE PLAN SET INTO SET INTO PLACE AND WE'RE MOVING INTO ORGANIZING THOSE DETAILS . WE'RE DOING FULL ENERGY MODELING TO TO MAKE THAT WE'RE HITTING OUR GOALS AS WELL AS GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE HOW OUR DECISIONS ARE AFFECTING THOSE OUTCOMES WITH A CONSTRUCTION START DATE OF SPRING TO SUMMER OF 2025 GOING THROUGH 2026 AND OPERATIONAL AT THE END OF 26 BEGINNING OF 27 DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.  WE STARTED EACH PROJECT WITH A SET OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES. THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES HELP US TO INFORM OUR DECISIONS.  ARE WE MAKING DECISIONS THAT ON THE ONSET OF OUR PROJECT WERE IMPORTANT TO US SO OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES WERE UM WE HAVE WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A BUILDING THAT WILL PRIORITIZE STAFF WELLBEING BALANCE EFFICIENCY FUTURE FLEXIBILITY IS SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT IS INNOVATIVE. WE ASK STAFF TO THINK BIG BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T ASK FOR IT WE DON'T IF WE CAN DESIGN FOR IT. THESE WERE THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED THEM TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAN THEY WORK BETTER? WHAT DO THEY NEED ON AN ON A DAILY BASIS TO KEEP THEM SAFE, TO KEEP THEM WORKING AND TO KEEP THEM EFFICIENT?  AND THE RESULT WAS AND THE OUTCOME WAS THROUGH A COMPLETE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS. SO WE'VE ENGAGED STAFF AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING.  WE'VE HELD WORKSHOPS, DESIGNED CHARADES AND WE TALKED WITH THEM ONE ON ONE AND GET THEIR INPUT.  WE'VE GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, PROJECT UPDATES AND INCLUDE THEM IN THE MAKING PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE FLEET MECHANICS THEMSELVES OUR PROBLEM SOLVERS AND DESIGN THINKERS AND HAVING THEM AS PART OF THE TABLE AND PART OF THE PROCESS HAS JUST BEEN A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND MY TEAM.  THE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING MATCH MUCH OF WHAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IF THE CHARGERS AND EV READY MAINTENANCE AREAS 75% DIVERSION FROM LANDFILL USE NATIVE PLANTINGS AND GREEN SPACE AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET ON A SITE GOING TO LOOK LIKE A LOT OF PAVING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONTAINMENT OF THAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE UNDERGROUND CONTAINMENT UNITS RAINWATER ROOFTOP THAT IS READY FOR THE SOLAR INITIATIVE AND SOLAR FORWARD AS WELL AS EMPLOYEES AND WELL-BEING NATURAL DAYLIGHT SPACES SO THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY FROM THE HARSH WORKING ENVIRONMENTS SO THE OFFICE AREA IS ACOUSTICALLY SEPARATED COMFORTABLE THERMALLY SEPARATED FROM THEM FROM THE MAINTENANCE BAY HAS ACCESS TO AN OUTDOOR PATIO SO THAT THEY CAN GET A GET A LITTLE REPRIEVE FROM THEIR DAILY ACTIVITIES IN THE SHOP AND SHOP AREAS.  I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DECONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS. WE ARE GOING TO USE THE WOOD FROM THE EXISTING SALT SHED IN AREAS OF OF A TRELLIS AND SCREENING FOR OUR PATIO AND OUTDOOR SPACES. WE'RE UTILIZING THAT INTERIOR WOOD FOR INTERIOR CEILING ELEMENTS WITHIN OUR BUILDING AND THEN WE'RE HAVING A LOCAL WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH LOCAL NONPROFITS TO COME IN AND, SALVAGE THE MATERIALS FROM THE ASSET BUILDING AND THE SALT SHED.  WE'RE UTILIZING BRICK AND CONCRETE INTO PAVING AND RETAINING WALLS ON SITE AS WELL AS SITE ELEMENTS THAT HELP US DIVERT OF THAT FROM THE LANDFILL.  OUR MATERIALS WE'RE USING SALT SHARED WOOD AGAIN AS A FORM OF FORMWORK FOR OUR CONCRETE PRECAST PANELS THAT ALLOWS US TO TIE INTO SOME OF THAT AND NOT TO USE NEW WOOD OR SOMETHING THAT WAS AS WELL AS TRANSLUCENT PANELS SO THAT WE CAN GET IN A DIFFUSED LIGHT INTO THE SPACE SO IT'S NOT DIRECT INTO YOUR WORKING AREA BUT IT PROVIDES A DIFFUSED LIGHT THROUGHOUT THE SHOP AREA AND THE OFFICE AREA. SO IT LIMITS OUR NECESSITY AND REQUIREMENTS FOR ARTIFICIAL AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT VIEWS AS MUCH OF THE NATURAL ELEMENTS AND LANDSCAPING THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ACCESS TO THE FRONT PATIO FOR THE LITTLE BIT OF RESPITE THAT THE STAFF HAVE ONSITE.  ON THE SITE PLAN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE NEW MAINTENANCE FLEET MAINTENANCE FACILITY JUST NORTH OF 96TH STREET TAKING UP THOSE TWO PARCELS. THOSE TWO PARCELS HAVE BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE CITY PARCEL THAT THE MAINTENANCE WILL SIT ON THE SALT SHED. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOVEMENT OF EXACT PLACEMENT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT PARKING LOT JUST SOUTH OF THE NORTH GARAGE.  RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AND SURE THAT OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS FOR BRIAN AND SALT REMAIN SAFE AND THAT WE RELOCATE SOME OF THE PARKING BECAUSE THAT WE CAN USE THE EXISTING FLEET GARAGE LOCATION FOR SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING AND HOW THAT MOVES THROUGH AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTAIN THAT SALT SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW PAD AND A NEW CONTAINMENT AREA FOR THE MIXING AND THE LOADING OF THE BRINE AND THE SALT BUILDING.  YOU CAN SEE HERE THE LATEST PLAN WE HAVE 16 BAYS, MECHANICS BAYS DRIVE THRU ACCESS TO LIMIT THE BACKING UP OF OF THE EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE HEAVY DUTY BAYS. TWO OF THOSE BAYS ARE SET UP TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THE FIRE TRUCKS WHEN WHEN THAT DOES GO IN EFFECT IT ALLOWS US FOR THE HEIGHT TO BE ABLE TO RAISE A BUCKET FOR EXAMPLE TO A FULL A FULL ON CHANGE OF OF ANYTHING THAT'S NEEDED. WE HAVE LIGHT DUTY BAYS THAT SERVICE OUR POLICE VEHICLES AND SOME OF THE PERSONAL VEHICLES AS WELL AS THOSE WILL BE THE ONES THAT ARE SET UP TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR EVA MAINTENANCE AS WELL SOME LIGHT WELDING AND SOME AND INVENTORY. SO OUR CITY'S INVENTORY IS TO MOVE OVER TO THIS FACILITY AS WELL. SO THERE'LL BE A DELIVERY SPOT IN THE BACK FOR INVENTORY AS WELL AS IF SOMEBODY THAT'S WHERE THEY GO WILL NEED TO PICK ITEMS.  SO THERE'LL BE SOME TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE SITE AND THAT IS ABOUT 28,600 SQUARE FEET AND THEN THE OFFICE AREA IS ABOUT 4600 SQUARE FEET CONTAINS INDIVIDUAL OFFICES, OPEN OFFICES, A FLEX OFFICE FOR CITY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A TOUCH DOWN LOCATION AT THAT POINT A TRAINING ROOM THAT CAN BE OPENED UP FOR LUNCHROOM OR SEPARATED IF IT'S USED AS A TRAINING ROOM SMALL KITCHENETTE, OPEN OFFICE AREA RECEPTION DESK AND LOBBY,  SMALL LOBBY WAITING AREA THESE AREAS HAVE ACCESS TO THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED ONSITE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE WINDOWS AND HAVE SOME OF THOSE TRANSLUCENT PANELS THAT BRING IN THE LIGHT . WE'RE REALLYOOKING AT THE FLOW OF VEHICLES HOW THEY COME OFF THE STREET, HOW THEY CIRCLE THROUGH THIS SITE, HOW PERSONAL VEHICLES ARE LOADING AND UNLOADING AS WELL AS QUEUING UP OF VEHICLES THAT ARE YET TO BE WORKED ON WHERE THOSE ARE PARKED HOW THEY'RE MOVED INTO THE FACILITY.  WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY EVENT THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO GET WORKED ON WHERE THEY PULL UP, HOW THEY ACCESS THEIR THE STAFF THAT THEY NEED TO GET TO THE SECOND FLOOR BASICALLY JUST MEZZANINE.  SO WE HAVE A LARGE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE SHOP AREA MOSTLY STORAGE UPSTAIRS WE'VE GOT TIRE STORAGE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO BE ABLE TO STORE AND HAVE ACCESS TO SO MOSTLY OVER THE INVENTORY AND PARTS AREA WE'LL HAVE TIRE STORAGE AND JUST YOU KNOW THE SEATS THAT COME OUT OF COP CARS, THE THINGS THAT ARE JUST STORED UP THERE SO LOTS OF ADDITIONAL STORAGE.  WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT SHELVING UNITS, HOW THAT'S ORGANIZED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET TO THE THINGS THAT WE USE THE MOST PRETTY EASILY AND EFFICIENTLY AND WORK THROUGH THAT.  THEN WITH THAT THAT'S THE BUILDING I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.  VERY NICE DESIGN AND I'M IMPRESSED AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE SUSTAINABILITY PRESENTATION KIND OF FLOWED VERY NICELY INTO.  THE NEW BUILDING AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING NOW.  THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD I GUESS IT NEVER EVEN OCCURRED TO ME THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T ALREADY WORK ON FIRE TRUCKS AND THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE A THING THAT'S COMING.  ARE THERE OTHER VEHICLES WITHIN THE CITY FLEET THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO WORK ON RIGHT NOW AND WE'VE GOT TO FARM OUT THAT WILL BE COMING BACK IN-HOUSE WITH THIS NEW FACILITY.  MR. BARRETT GETTING THE MAYOR COUNCIL YEAH. FIRE TRUCKS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE DO NOT WORK ON RIGHT NOW BUT EVERY OTHER CITY VEHICLE WE DO WORK ON.  OKAY, THAT'S GREAT. GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. COUNSEL QUESTIONS HERE.  COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU. MAYOR.  SO I DID SEE IN YOUR SLIDE ON PAGE 68 WE TALKED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY IN RESILIENCE AND ABOUT THE THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING BEING ABOUT 50 YEARS AND SO AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RUN INTO WITH THE CURRENT SHOP IS JUST THAT THAT HEIGHT KIND OF RESTRICTION AND HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT AND WE IMAGINE THAT YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW YOU KNOW, THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO CONTINUE GET BIGGER AND LARGER AND BIGGER ARMS AND THAT KIND OF THING. HOW DOES WORK WITH THIS CONCEPT OF RESILIENCE? WHAT'S WITH THAT?  YEAH, THE THE BIGGEST CONSTRAINT TO THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON IS BAY WITH SO WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT WITH STAFF AND WENT INTO THE PARKING LOT AND CHALKED OUT LINES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BAY WITH THAT IS BECAUSE AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT PLOWS AND ATTACHMENTS AND BEING ABLE TO WORK ON THOSE SAFELY EXTENDING A WING OF A PLOW INSIDE OF THE BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT. SO WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY BAYS THAT WE NEED UM WITH WISE THE HEIGHT IS A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A CONCERN BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING IT UP FOR THE LADDER TRUCK WHICH IS QUITE A BIT OF HEIGHT TO DO. WE WILL EXTEND THE LADDER TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE UNLESS WE GET A BIGGER LADDER TRUCK BUT AS SNOWPLOWS TEND TO GET LARGER MOST MORE MORE IN IS OUR WIDTH TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT SO.  I THINK WE'RE SAFE I FEEL SAFE ON THE HEIGHT IT'S THE WITH WE REALLY WANTED TO WORK ON. SO IS YOUR SITE BIG ENOUGH TO EXPAND IF IF NEED BE? WITH THAT IN MIND TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER IN TERMS OF IF WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE BAYS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SO WE SET THE BAYS AS LARGE AS WE COULD ON THE SITE AND THE SITE IS REALLY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF BAYS. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WORKED WITH STAFF AND INITIALLY THE STAFF WANTED 14 HEAVY DUTY BAYS, SEVEN LIGHT DUTY BAYS.  NOW WE'RE AT 116 TOTAL BAYS SO WE REALLY CUT THAT.  THEY CUT DOWN THE NEED FOR ALL OF THOSE BAYS TO MAXIMIZE THE WIDTH. SO WE PRIORITIZED THE WIDTH AS FAR RATHER THAN MORE BAYS OR A NUMBER OF BAYS JUST SO THAT 50 YEARS JUST GET CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TOWARDS THE TAIL END BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF WHAT DROVE US INTO INTO KIND OF DOING THIS. SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE TIGHT. YEAH.  AND THE OTHER ASPECT TO THAT COUNCILMEMBER IS IN ENSURING WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SET UP TO DO MORE AND MORE OF THOSE MAINTENANCE ITEMS BECAUSE THE NAVY USES DIFFERENT USES DIFFERENT HOISTS AND DIFFERENT LISTS TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, IF IF WE WERE TO, YOU KNOW, DO A BATTERY CHANGE AND WE TALKED WITH STAFF THAT THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN ON DAY ONE IF YOU KNOW IF THAT BATTERY CHANGE IS GOING TO BE DONE, IT'LL BE DONE IT YOU KNOW, THE DEALERSHIP OR SOMEBODY WHO SPECIALIZES IN THAT. BUT IF WE START TO MOVE INTO MORE OF THAT AND THAT BECOMES A REGULAR ROUTINE, WE WANT TO HAVE THE SET SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE MORE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND BEING ABLE TO USE THOSE LIFTS AND HAVE THOSE OPTIONS AVAILABLE AS WE GET INTO THAT THAT THOSE VEHICLES ARE QUITE BIGGER. HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE?  IF NOT, THANK YOU. YES.  I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH NEXT STEPS SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM HERE. I'M. WELL, LIKE MIKE SAID, WE'RE AT SCHEMATIC DESIGN SO WE STILL HAVE TO GET THROUGH PLANNING THE DRC AND PLANNING AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT CHOICES FOR A SALT SHED. SO THAT COULD BE INTERESTING TOPIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO INVEST SOME TIME IN AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT COUNCIL WILL BE BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE BIDS AND.  THE BONDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE SOLD IN MID-JUNE TO JULY FOR THIS PROJECT. VERY GOOD. THANK WHO KNEW THAT THE DISCUSSION OF A SALT SAID COULD BE AN INTERESTING TOPIC ? CHECK OUT THE CODE . THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.  THAT WAS LIGHT AND 4.3 IN OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONTINUED DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR FINAL 2025 TAX LEVY AND BUDGET AND COREY CARLSON IS HERE WITH US AGAIN THIS EVENING. APOLOGIES FOR TIME WHEN YOU WERE CUED UP AND READY TO GO AND WE JUST RAN OUT OF TIME LAST MONDAY EVENING. SO THANKS FOR COMING BACK THIS EVENING AND THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.  THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.  SO DURING THEIR NOVEMBER 25TH PRESENTATION ON THE 2025 TAX LEVY AND BUDGET WE HEARD YOUR CONCERN FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT A PROPOSAL 9.97% INCREASE FROM 2024 AND YOU ALSO HAD SOME REQUESTS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO WE DECIDED WE SHOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S NEXT WEEK JUST HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION SO YOU COMPILED THIS INFORMATION I AM ABOUT TO PRESENT TO ASSIST IN DETERMINING WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE THE 2025 TAX LEVY TO ALIGN FOR THE TRUTH IN TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE ON DECEMBER .  SO FIRST OF ALL JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT IMPACT OF THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY TAX LEVY OPTIONS ON THIS CHART. SO THIS CHART HIGHLIGHTS DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SOME VARIOUS TAX LEVIES AND AT THE TOP IS THE PRELIMINARY 2025 LEVY. SO THAT WAS SET BY THE COUNCIL INITIALLY 11 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE OVER 2024 AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 25TH WE PROPOSED A $1.2 MILLION REDUCTION FROM THAT PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY. SO THAT LOWERED THE INCREASE 9.97%.  AND TONIGHT WE ARE ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WHICH WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 1.8 MILLION AND CUTS FROM THE PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY . SO THAT WOULD RESULT IN A 9.25% INCREASE AND THE 9.25% IS WHAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.  SO YOU CAN KIND OF FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE MONTHLY IMPACT AND THEN IN A YEARLY IMPACT AS WELL AS YOU KIND OF FOLLOW ALONG TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES THE CHART SHOWS THE MONTHLY IMPACT ON THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME OWNERS CITY PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE THE REDUCTION FROM 9.97% OVERALL TAX LEVY INCREASE DOWN TO 9.25% IS ABOUT UNDER 90 CENT SAVING PER MONTH SO $0.90 PER MONTH SAVING AND IF WE WERE TO FURTHER LOWER IT FOR EXAMPLE FROM 9.25 DOWN TO 9% THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL $0.30 PER MONTH FOR THE MEDIAN INCOME. SO JUST TO GET A SENSE OF IMPACT OF THE DIFFERENT TAX LEVY OPTIONS OPTIONS AND THEN THIS SIDE WAS TO PUT TOGETHER THE REQUEST TO HAVE A CUMULATIVE SLIDE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING DURING THIS BUDGET SEASON. SO THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT ON A RESIDENT SO MEDIAN VALUE HOME WITH MEDIUM UTILITY USAGE SO IF YOU RECALL THAT SLIDE FROM THAT WHEN WE WHEN THE UTILITY RATES ARE SET SO THIS IS THE MEDIAN ONES THAT WOULD BE MEDIUM GARBAGE CAN SIZE 5500 GALLONS OF WATER USAGE PER MONTH AND THEN REFLECTS A COMBINED EFFECT OF THE CITY AND PORT AUTHORITY TAX LEVY INCREASES TO THE MEDIAN VALUE HOMES. SO ALL OF TH TOGETHER IS AN INCREASE OF $13.46 PER MONTH AND THEN IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO TO AT THIS BUDGET IN AN OVERALL INCREASED GENERAL FUND BUDGET ON NOVEMBER 24TH WE PROPOSED THE 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND WE'D SHOWN IT BROKEN OUT BY DEPARTMENT AS WE TRADITIONALLY SHOW IT AND WE'VE ALSO SHOWN IT LIKE THIS AS WELL. AND SO THIS IS JUST AGAIN HIGHLIGHTING THE BREAKDOWN BY CATEGORY EMPHASIZING THE SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT IS 70% ALLOCATED TO THE EMPLOYEES SALARIES AND BENEFITS THE PEOPLE WHO DELIVER THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND THEN 13% OF THE BUDGET IS GOING TOWARDS INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS SUCH AS HEIDI FLEET FACILITIES, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS EQUIPMENT AND INSURANCE AND THEN ONLY 8% OF THE BUDGETS ALLOCATED FOR MATERIALS, PLAYS AND SERVICES AND THEN WE DO HAVE ABOUT 1% 1% FOR CONTINGENCY.  AND THEN I WANTED TO GO OVER A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THE ADDITIONAL THAN THE REQUESTS FOR NEW POSITIONS IN THIS 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET. SO THIS IS AND BENEFITS INCLUDED AND THE COST FOR THE FIRST THREE POSITIONS ON THE SLIDE ARE ASSUMING A JANUARY 1ST START DATE THE LAST TWO ARE THE FIRE POSITIONS THE ADDITIONAL FIRE POSITIONS THAT WOULD NOT START UNTIL APRIL WHEN THOSE 18 NEW FIREFIGHTERS WITH THE SAFER GRANT WOULD ALSO BE STARTING.  SO JUST THE INTENT OF THE SITE TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THE DOLLAR IMPACT OF REMOVING ANY OR ALL OF THESE POSITIONS FROM THE 2025 REQUEST AND THEN THE NEXT COUPLE SIDES I JUST HAVE SOME INFORMATION JUST OUTLINING WHAT THE IMPACTS OF NOT INCLUDING THESE POSITIONS AND THE 25 BUDGET WOULD BE SO FIRST OFF IS THE TARGET MARKET PROGRAM COORDINATOR THAT WOULD BE IN FINANCE ALL UNDER $130,000 FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS STARTING AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY.  AND SO THIS WOULD JUST MEAN DELAYING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW TARGET MARKET PROGRAM PURCHASING PROCESS. THAT'S ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC GOALS BUT THAT'S AIMED AT SUPPORTING LOCAL  SMALL BUSINESS, PROVIDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO BID ON CITY CONTRACTS, ALIGN WITH OUR EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GOALS AND THEN THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON POSITION THAT WOULD BE ONE MORE ONE ADDITIONAL CRIME VICTIM LIAISON POSITION IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SO NOT ADDING THAT IN 2025 WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN INSUFFICIENT STAFF TO COMMUNICATE WITH CRIME VICTIMS AND ATTORNEY'S POTENTIALLY RESULTING IN UNFAVORABLE OUTCOMES TO VICTIMS IN DIFFICULTY MEETING STATUTORY MANDATES THAT CAN IMPACT PROSECUTORS PROFESSIONAL LICENSES AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON THE SLIDE IS THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER RECREATION MANAGER THE TO ADD THAT POSITION NOW AND SO WITHOUT THAT POSITION AND 2025 THE KEY OF PRE OPERATIONAL PLANNING STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS COMMUNITY HEALTH ON THE CENTER IT COULD BE AFFECTED POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THE CENTERS READINESS TO MEET COMMUNITY NEEDS WHEN IT OPENS AND THEN ON THIS NEXT SLIDE THESE ARE THE TO ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED TO START IN APRIL. SO NOT HAVING THE FIRST ONE THAT'S FOCUSED ON TRAINING CAN THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO MAINTAIN RIGOROUS TRAINING STANDARDS SO THAT CAN IMPACT FIREFIGHTER READINESS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE ASSISTANT FIRE AND CHIEF POSITION FOCUSED ON EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES COULD HINDER THE CITY'S TO ENHANCE EMS SERVICES OR EMS COULD RESPONSE TIMES CRITICAL CARE EMERGENCIES AND THE FIRE CHIEF SUPPLY ME JUST TO GIVE A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS THAT FALL UNDER THIS YEAR EMS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE MIGHT NOT REALIZE THEY'RE JUST THINKING FIREFIGHTERS THAT IT'S FIRES BUT THERE'S A LOT OF YOU MUST CALLS WELL  SO THIS SLIDE IS A COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF COMING INTO OUR 9.25% PROPOSAL ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES SO POSSIBLY INSTEAD OF ELIMINATING THESE POSITION REQUESTS POSSIBLY DELAYING START DATES UNTIL EITHER APRIL OR JULY ADDITIONALLY EXPLORES THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING REDUCTIONS IN ONE OR MORE OF OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS WHICH COMES WITH SOME OTHER ISSUES. SO THE APPROACH OF REDUCING CHARGES OR TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM INTERNAL FUNDS AND COULD STRAIN SOME OF THE FUND BALANCES FOR EXAMPLE IT WOULD BE REALLY CHALLENGING IN OUR I.T FUND OR OUR FLEET FUND IF YOU RECALL I'M LOOKING THOSE BUDGETS HOWEVER TRANSFER FROM THE SELF INSURANCE FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND COMBINED WITH SOME REDUCED INTERNAL CHARGES FOLLOWING UP IN 2026 THAT COULD BE A VIABLE OPTION.  YOU WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THAT SO THAT WOULD BE BRINGING IT DOWN AT $582,908 MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED THE LAST TIME AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT WOULD BE A 6.92% INCREASE OR MEDIAN VALUE HOME AND THAT BREAKS DOWN TO A DOLLAR 89 A WEEK $8.20 A MONTH OR A LITTLE UNDER $100 A YEAR AND ALSO WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE QUESTION ABOUT GRANT REVENUES. WE DID PUT TOGETHER A HISTORY BACK TO 2019 GRANT REVENUES FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE AND OUR GRANT REVENUE IS INCREASING.  THIS SLIDE PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW FROM 19 THROUGH 2024. IN 2020 THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE DUE TO $6.7 MILLION IN CARES ACT COVID RELIEF FUNDS THAT'S ALLOCATED THERE AND THEN FROM 2021 THROUGH 2024 THOSE FEDERAL GRANT REVENUES DO THE CONSIDERABLE IMPACT OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS.  BUT HOWEVER, EVEN EXCLUDING THOSE ARP FUNDS, OUR OVERALL GRANT REVENUES HAVE INCREASED FOR EXAMPLE IN 2024 WITHOUT THE S&P FUNDS IT WOULD STILL BE AT 8.6 MILLION COMPARED TO 5 MILLION IN 2019 AND IN AS YOU KNOW IN 2020 WE DID ADD A MUCH NEEDED GRANT COORDINATOR ACCOUNTANT'S POSITION TO THE DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS A CRITICAL GAP IN MANAGING AND ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH GRANT FUNDING.  AND THIS ROLE ENSURES PROPER GRANT PROCEDURES AND POLICIES ARE FOLLOWED AND TRACKED IN OUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE AND WE'RE AND ALSO WORKS CLOSELY WITH PURCHASING AND DEPARTMENTS AND THERE ARE MANY ADDITIONAL STEPS REQUIRED IN PROCUREMENT AND IN REPORTING THAT ARE UNIQUE TO SPENDING GRANTS.  SO GRANT REQUIREMENTS ARE EXTENSIVE AND OFTEN DEMAND SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL WORK AND, ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION AND NONCOMPLIANCE POSES SUBSTANTIAL RISKS INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF CURRENT OR FUTURE FUNDING DAMAGE TO THE CITY'S REPUTATION AND CREDIBILITY AND DISRUPTIONS TO PROJECTS AND SERVICES SO WHILE WE CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE GRANTS TO FUND CITY SERVICES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT GRANT FUNDING IS NOT MONEY COMES WITH STRINGS ATTACHED REQUIRING DEDICATED STAFF CAPACITY TO MANAGE THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM PRE AWARD PLANNING AND ALL THE WAY TO POST AWARD MANAGEMENT AND REPORTING AND PROVIDING DOCUMENTATION AND INFORMATION FOR AND SO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES I KNOW THE FIRE CHIEF WOULD VERY MUCH WANT ME TO SAY THIS IS A FORECAST WHICH I HAVEN'T READ SO ESPECIALLY BEYOND 2025 BECAUSE FACTORS SUCH AS AN EVOLVING ENVIRONMENT AROUND FIRE SERVICES AND THE CITY'S ABILITY TO CONTINUE NEW PART TIME PAID ON CALL FIREFIGHTERS WORK ALONGSIDE FULL TIME CAREER FIREFIGHTERS COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THESE PLANS BUT THESE ARE THE PLANS WE HAVE WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND SO I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THESE PRETTY DETAILED SLIDES. I HAVE TWO LINES HERE SO.  LAST TIME I WAS HERE YOU'D REQUESTED A TIMELINE OUTLINING THE FINANCIAL AND LEVEE IMPACTS OF TRANSITION INTO A COMBINATION PART TIME AND FULL TIME PRIOR DEPARTMENT UPDATING OUR REMAINING FIRE STATIONS PHASING THE RELIANCE ON SAFER GRANT FUNDING AND OPTIONS REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN BY UTILIZING A PORTION OF THE FIRE PENSION FUND BALANCE. I AM TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT ALL IN THIS IN THIS CHART SO I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT SO FIRST ONE GOES FROM 2023 TO 2020 AND MY NEXT SLIDE WILL CONTINUE TO 2032. SO AT THE TOP THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTS THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF THOSE SAFER GRANT FUNDS WHICH HAVE JUMPSTARTED OUR TRANSITION A COMBINATION FIRE DEPARTMENT BY FUNDING A TOTAL OF 36 FULL TIME POSITIONS 18 FOR THOSE THREE YEARS FROM 2023 TO 26 AND I SAY THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING AT TWO FULL THREE YEARS BUT IT STARTS IN APRIL AND THEN ENDS IN MARCH AND THEN ADDITIONAL 18 THAT GOES FROM 2020 528 AND THEN BELOW THAT IN A CHART IT SHOWS CHANGES IN THE GENERAL REFLECTING THE ADDITION OF NEW POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE TRANSITION OF SAFER FUNDED TO THE GENERAL FUND ONE THAT SUPPORT FROM THE SAFER GRANT IS EXPIRING AND THEN BELOW THE RED SECTION ILLUSTRATES OUR PLAN TO MITIGATE TAX BURDEN BY TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM THE FIRE PENSION FUNDS THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY FORTUNATE WITH THE INVESTMENTS AND IT HAS GREW YOUR OWN.  ADDITIONALLY THE SLIDE OUTLINES THE IMPACT OF THE FIRE STATION REBUILDS AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE DEATH TAX WITH THE ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE AND IT'S SHOWING THE ADDITIONS ALL OF THESE ARE KIND OF SHOWING FOR THE GENERAL FUND IMPACT AND THEN THE INCREASE IN THE THAT IS THAT ADDITION FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND THEN AT THE END FINALLY IT'S SHOWING HOW THESE FACTORS COLLECTIVELY INFLUENCE THE OVERALL TAX LEVY INCREASE AT THE BOTTOM LINE THERE. SO AGAIN THIS IS A FORECAST BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING RIGHT NOW. SO THAT GOES TILL 2028 AND THEN HERE WE HAVE 2019, 2032 AND SO WE WILL HAVE TRANSITIONED OFF THE LAST OF THE SAVE FOR GRANT IN 2029 AND THIS PLAN SHOWS THAT THE ADDS TWO FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND INCREASED INCREASED DEBT SERVICE FOR FIRE STATIONS WOULD GO UNTIL 2032 .  AND THEN I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING. SO AS YOU ARE AWARE THE RECENT BUDGET BUDGETS SORRY AND TAX LEVIES HAVE CHALLENGING DUE TO PRESSURES FROM INFLATION THE COMPETITIVE LABOR MARKET PARK MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRANSITION FACILITY NEEDS AND DEMANDS FOR SERVICES JUST AHEAD AS WE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME TO 2026, THE OUTLOOK REMAINS A LITTLE DAUNTING AND SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS WILL BE NECESSARY TO PRIORITIZE SPENDING WITHIN OUR LIMITED RESOURCES.  SO I MENTIONED OUR OUR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. IT'S OUR VENDOR FOR OUR ENTERPRISE ERP SYSTEM RECENTLY ACQUIRED RESOURCE X WHICH IS A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING SOFTWARE THAT THEY'VE INTO THEIR SOFTWARE CHOICES AND WE HAVE SOME DEMOS LINED UP THIS MONTH ACTUALLY THERE'S ONE TOMORROW THAT THE ACME SPONSORING AND THEN AN JUST ONE TO EXPLORE IF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WOULD WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO US IN THE 2026 BUDGET AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH EVERYTHING ON THE SLIDE BUT HERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS AND IT'S A STRATEGIC APPROACH THAT ALIGNS FUNDING WITH COMMUNITY PRIORITIES BY EVALUATING PROGRAMS ON THEIR IMPACT AND THEIR EFFECTIVENESS. AND IT USES DATA DRIVEN INSIGHTS AND A.I. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TOOLS TO OPTIMIZE RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND ENSURE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND.  THIS COMES FROM SOME MATERIALS FROM THE TYLER THE VENDOR SO PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IT'S A SHIFT FROM BUT IT'S NOT A REPLACEMENT OF LINE ITEM BUDGETING IT JUST IT GOES DEEPER AND LOOKS AT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES HOLISTICALLY ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE THE BROADER IMPACT AND IT DETERMINES THE PROGRAMS MOST ALIGNED WITH COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND IDENTIFIES RESOURCES OR REALLOCATION STRATEGIES AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE MAYBE LESS ALIGNED.  AND AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT THE CITY DULUTH USES AND THAT TAUGHT ME THIS QUOTE BUT THERE'S A THERE ABOUT FROM THE CITY DULUTH THAT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES HAS IN THEIR MATERIALS FOR THEIR SOFTWARE.  AND SO FINALLY ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T USED A PRIORITY BASED BUDGET SOFTWARE LIKE I JUST IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS IN THE PAST WE HAVE CONTINUOUSLY ASSESSED OUR SERVICES TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND ALIGN WITH OUR PRIORITIES. SO THIS JUST SHOWS A TIMELINE OF ASSESSMENTS GOING BACK TO 2016 AND SOME OF THESE ASSESSMENTS LIKE THE FLEET ASSESSMENT HAVE RESULTED IN REDUCED STAFF AND REDUCED VEHICLES AND REDUCED EQUIPMENT . OTHERS HAVE IDENTIFIED CRITICAL INVESTMENTS NEEDED SUCH IN PARKS, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FACILITIES AND FIRE SERVICES, ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS UNDERWAY OR FORTHCOMING INCLUDING OUR REVIEWS OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN ANIMAL CONTROL, THE FUND RESERVE STUDY PROCUREMENT PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND AN ASSESSMENT OF THE BLOOMINGTON CENTER FOR THE ARTS.  SO THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS PROPOSAL AND THE DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IN PREPARING FOR THE 2025 PROPERTY TAX LEVY AND BUDGET THE SUMMER 16 WELL THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT AND AS I SAID I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN COMING BACK TO US THIS WEEKEND AFTER WE BUMPED YOU OUT FROM LAST WEEK JUST TO CANCEL A COUPLE OF JUST COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS ON ALL OF THIS.  FIRST OF ALL I APPRECIATE WE I MEAN WE STARTED AT 11.5 AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS SAID PUSH IT DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU COULD. AND SO TO TO BRING IT DOWN BY TO AN EXTRA TWO AND A QUARTER I THINK IS APPRECIATED IN THE 9.25. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE HOW YOU'VE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP AND ESPECIALLY THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING. AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TIMELINE AND SO ON AND THEN THE WHATEVER I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND I TALKED ABOUT THE WHAT IFS IF THESE POSITIONS WEREN'T WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AND HOW IT ALL KIND OF WORKS. WHAT I THINK SOMETIMES WE WE WE TEND TO GET LOST IN THE IN NUMBERS OF THE LEVY AND THE PERCENTAGES OF THE LEVY AND IT ALMOST BECOMES WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT 9.25 OR WHAT ABOUT 8.25 FOR ABOUT 8.8 AND AND TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO SEE THAT IN FACT, YOU KNOW TO GET DOWN TO POINT FIVE IT WOULD BE ANOTHER $0.90 PER MONTH SAVINGS FOR A TYPICAL YOU KNOW, THE MEDIAN VALUE IN THE CITY.  AND SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET TOO TIED UP IN THAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE AND WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THAT AND THEN TO KEEP CONSIDERING HOW ESPECIALLY WITH THE THE PROPOSED STAFFING INCREASES I MEAN THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THE BUDGETED IT REFLECTS WHAT WHAT WE WE ALL HEAR AND WHAT WE SAY THE STAFF AND WHAT STAFF ALL IS IT REFLECTS THE YOU KNOW, THE VALLEY AND THE PRIORITIES AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE AND AS A PROVIDERS CITIES CITIES ARE SERVICE PROVIDERS WE DON'T MAKE WIDGETS WE CAN'T CUT WE CAN'T CUT INPUTS IN PRODUCTION BECAUSE.  WE OUR PRODUCTION COMES FROM PEOPLE AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO MEET THE THE DESIRES, THE PRIORITIES, THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND STEP UP TO THAT AND ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY OUR FIRE CHIEFS FOR ASSISTANT CHIEFS I THINK ESPECIALLY THE THE REC MANAGER TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE THAT WERE PREPARED WHEN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER OPENS THEY'RE JUST VERY GOOD EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY INSISTS ON OR EXPECTS FROM US AND AND IF WE COME UP SHORT ON THAT TO GO FROM A LEVY PERCENTAGE YOU KNOW, FROM 9.25 TO 9.15 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK WE'RE SELLING OUR COMMUNITY JUST I AS I SAID I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO BRINGING THE FROM THE PROPOSED AND THE PRELIMINARY LEVY DOWN TO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL AND APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT ANSWERED AND WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE NEXT FRIDAY OR NEXT MONDAY NIGHT WE HAVE TO DECIDE. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M STANDING AFTER HOW MANY BUDGET DISCUSSIONS HAVE WE HAD SINCE DECEMBER? WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW SO OTHER COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. THE UH WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS IN THE FUND PERCENTAGE INCREASE BY EXPENSE CATEGORY NUMBER 41 WE HAVE 78% OF THAT OVERALL INCREASE ASSIGNED TO SALARIES AND BENEFITS. I AH WE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT 78% IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE 659,000 AND NEW STAFF CORRECT. OR ARE WE SAYING THAT MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAT IS ACTUALLY A PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET I BELIEVE. YEAH, YEAH.  SO OH NINE IS AN INCREASE SORRY. RIGHT THAT THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED IN THE 2025 BUDGET AND AND ANY YOU KNOW STEP INCREASES OR UNION SO THAT'S THAT IS ALL IN THAT INCREASE AS WELL IN ADDITION TO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS OKAY SO SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THE NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE MAKE APPROXIMATELY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT 7570 8% SAID ANOTHER WAY IF WE DIDN'T DO IT WE'D BE AT 72% VERSUS 78% OR SOME SMALL IMPACT.  YES ON ME. I'LL SEE IF I  LOOK AT MY NOTES AND SEE HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE. BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT. IT WOULD THAT'S NOT A HUGE IMPACT IN THAT SALARY POSITION. YES, I WOULD SAY ACCOUNTS BRING BACK A NAPKIN MAYBE A PERCENTAYBE 1%. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. I MEAN THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE SO. SO OUR TWO LET ME LET ME IF I CAN LET ME TRY TO HELP YOU TRACK WHERE MY HEAD'S GOING WITH THIS IS THAT WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT BY REDUCING THE THE REDUCING THE THE LEVY WE'RE KIND OF KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT WE KNOW THAT AS IT AS EXEMPLIFIED BY THE TREND ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STUFF FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S 2.5% LEVY INCREASES COMING LIKE IF WE DON'T IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO START PAYING THE PEOPLE WE GOT THESE LABOR GRANTS FOR RIGHT SO SO WHAT I WANT I WANT TO BE CAREFUL I UNDERSTAND IS IN ADDITION TO THAT WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE THE WHAT IS THAT LEVY INCREASE THAT WE ARE KICKING DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU WILL JUST A FUNCTION OF LIKE WE HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THIS BUDGET ABOUT LIKE THAT THAT A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OF WHAT IS GOING INTO THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO WITH THE TREND YOU SEE IN EVERY PLACE WHICH IS EVERYTHING MORE AND HAVING PEOPLE HERE COST MORE AND IF THE IF THE IF THE CONTRACTS ARE THE REASONS THAT OKAY BUT AND I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED I THINK I DON'T I APOLOGIZE MR. FERBER I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT IS IN THE PROCESS BUT I KNOW WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME FIRM SOME RE RELOOKING IF YOU WILL, OR KIND OF REVISIT RE-ENVISIONING THINGS LIKE OUR DEFERRED COMP AND OTHER LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FITS IN OR I'M ASSUMING NONE OF THAT'S RELEVANT THIS THIS YEAR BUT IS IT IS IT THE EXPECTATION IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO A CRYSTAL BALL IF IF IF I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT WASN'T IT SOMETHING LIKE IF WE WENT BELOW NINE AND WE WENT CLOSE TO NINE THIS YEAR WOULD BE IT LIKE 16 NEXT YEAR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHAT WHAT IS THAT FUNCTION OF JUST SALARIES LIKE HELP US UNDERSTAND IF YOU CAN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE BUT THIS THIS LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT TO ME THAN KIND OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING BEFORE WHICH IS WHICH IS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND ACCORDING TO LIKE DEPARTMENT OR WE LOOK AT AND DON'T KIND OF WORK PRODUCT OR WHATEVER THIS IS JUST A FUNCTION LIKE 78% OF THIS INCREASE IS JUST A FUNCTION OF PAYING PEOPLE WE'VE OBLIGATED TO PAY THEM BECAUSE OF OUR CONTRACTS GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE HOW HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE? LIKE HOW HOW MUCH IS THAT A FUNCTION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS? I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. MR. RUBY MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I THINK THAT THAT IS PROBABLY A GOOD INDICATOR OF SORT OF WHAT A STATUS QUO INCREASE IS GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE AT A POINT NOW WHERE PEOPLE COST SALARY AND BENEFITS IS ABOUT 78% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET RIGHT AND SO I THINK THAT ALIGNS PRETTY CLOSELY AND SAYING 70% OF OUR INCREASE IS DUE TO PEOPLE COSTS. THAT'S ALSO THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO PEOPLE RIGHT.  AND I DO THINK COUNCILMEMBER I THINK WHERE YOUR IS GOING I MEAN I RECALL IT'S MAY HAVE INCREASED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BY A COUPLE OF THREE PERCENTAGE I REMEMBER A NUMBER AROUND 75% OF OUR 7475 SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT WERE WHERE PEOPLE WERE SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND SO HAVE SEEN THAT INCREASE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE EVERYTHING COSTS MORE AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE THE LABOR PRESSURES IF YOU KNOW IF WE'RE IF WE'RE NOT PAYING AT LAKE VILLA PLYMOUTH AH AND I MEAN IT'S A MATTER OF TRYING TO TO RETAIN THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE EXPECTED.  YEAH I THERE'S THERE'S A WHAT I'M THINKING THROUGH IS YOU KNOW IF THIS 78% IS A CONSISTENT NUMBER AND THE FIRE NUMBER IS A CONSISTENT NUMBER THEN OF THIS OF THAT 6% THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPE NEXT YEAR ,THERE'S I MEAN WHAT ARE WE REALLY KICKING DOWN THE ROAD I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS FEEL PRETTY STATIC TO ME AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING RIGHT.  SO LIKE IF IT'S 12% IS 12%, 12% IS 12% LIKE YOU KNOW, I GUESS I STRUGGLED TO STRUGGLE UP HERE TO COME UP WITH THINGS FOR US TO DO DIFFERENTLY IF THESE IF SO MUCH OF THE NUMBER IS ALREADY BAKED IN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE 16 ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE PRESENTATION THAT THE CFO PROVIDED REGARDING THE DEBT MOVING FORWARD IN A FEW YEARS. SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND 5% OF THAT NUMBER FOR 2026 IS RELATED TO DEBT AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IT IN OTHER YEARS TOO. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND THAT'S A FUNCTION THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE DECIDED TO TAKE ON RIGHT IS CORRECT LIKE THE THE THE MAINTENANCE GRUDGE IS THE BIG IS THE BIG ONE NEXT YEAR. YEAH.  OKAY. YEAH. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION REGARDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STUFF. I THINK I THINK PROBABLY TWO OR THREE MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE COULD GET AT BY THE 16TH NECESSARILY. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT BUT LIKE THE PARKS PLAN, THE THREE PROJECTS THERE, THE DEBT WE ISSUE FOR THOSE RIGHT THAT'S COMING AND IF THERE ARE INCREASES TO THE WITH THE WITH THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WE KNOW THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL SALARY AND HOURLY AND SALARIED EMPLOYEES THAT WILL COME TO MANAGE THAT PLACE LIKE YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF THING.  I'M JUST WONDERING IF IF WE CAN GET INTO THE HABIT OF FOR SOME OF THESE STRATEGIC PROJECTS GETTING THAT KIND OF A VIEW AND WHETHER OR OTHER PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT. BUT I THINK I THINK IT JUST REALLY HELPS FOR US TO SAY LIKE YOU ASKED, YOU KNOW, THE WE'VE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO THESE THINGS. WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS. HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS AS THE IMPACT. SO WHEN WE COME TO YOU AND SAY THE LEVY IS GOING UP BY X, HERE'S WHY IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE JUST I MEAN WE GET A LOT OF FLACK SOMETIMES A COUNCIL OF SAYING WE JUST KEEP THROWING STUFF AT COUNCIL RIGHT THE STAFF AND LETTING THEM DO NEW SPECIAL PROJECTS THESE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT TO ME AND IT FEELS LIKE 15.9% OF THE 16% WE MIGHT BE ASKING NEXT YEAR FALL INTO ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES WE'VE ALREADY DEFINED.  AND SO I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY ROOM TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THINGS OTHER TO SAY NO LET'S NOT DO THE MAINTENANCE GARAGE OR NO LET'S NOT ACTUALLY THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WELLNESS CENTER THESE TYPES OF THINGS RIGHT. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST MY MY TAKE ON IT AT THE MOMENT BUT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS PARTICULAR PERSPECTIVE HAS LEFT ME WITH TONIGHT AND APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS. THANKS. OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I SAW YOUR HAND UP COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR.  I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE 78% IS OF AN INCREASE AND I THINK WE WERE IMPACTED LARGELY BY PEOPLE MADE MORE MONEY.  YOU KNOW, THEY NEGOTIATED BETTER UNION CONTRACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE LAST YEAR.  EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED WITH INFLATION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS 78% OF THE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO YOU KNOW SO ALL THAT ALL DEPENDS ON THE LABOR MARKET AND KNOW IF THE LABOR MARKET CONTINUES AS IT IS AND PEOPLE CONTINUE TO GET GOOD FRANKLY THAT'S GOOD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IF YOU'RE MAKING MORE MONEY THAT'S THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYTHING. SO BUT THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT TO CITY BUDGETS IF THAT DOESN'T CONTINUE TO HAPPEN THAT'LL BE 78% OF A MUCH SMALLER NUMBER. IF WAGE INCREASES ARE MUCH SMALLER THE FUTURE YEARS ALSO HEALTH CARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW, YOU HOPE PEOPLE DO BETTER BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BUDGET SO KIND OF A CATCH 22 THERE I GET A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THE GRANTS.  THE SAFER GRANT IS INCLUDED THE OVERALL GRANT CHART SIMILAR TO WHAT IT'S SHOWING THE FIRE COST CHART IS THAT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE THE SAME.  YES IN BOTH. OKAY.  AND YOU SAID THAT OF THE 13 MILLION IN 2024 OF GRANTS THAT WOULD BE REDUCED TO ABOUT 8.6 MILLION WITHOUT ARP. AND THEN IF I NOTICE CORRECTLY THE FIRE WAS APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION SO THAT BRING OUTSIDE THOSE TWO LARGE ITEMS WOULD THAT BRING THAT DOWN TO ABOUT 6.6 MILLION FOR 24 TO BE JUST COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE DID IN 2019?  YES. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT IF WE TOOK THE SAFER GRANT OUT AS WELL THAT THAT WOULD BE ABOUT OKAY. THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. YES. IT STILL SHOWS MILLION SOME IN GROWT OVER THAT SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING NUMBERS AND WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE. OBVIOUSLY I'M ALWAYS A PROPONENT OF TRYING TO GET MORE SO THANK THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THE THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION. THE DUHON DESIGN IS THAT IN THIS BUDGET OR WAS THAT REMOVED? MR. BROOK IT YET MR. MAYOR THAT WAS PUSHED FORWARD A COUPLE OF YEARS RIGHT OKAY. THAT OUT AND I WILL JUST AND IT WOULD BE ON THE GULF FUND ANYWAY IT WOULDN'T BE YES IT WOULDN'T BE THE GENERAL FUND I WILL ADD MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT THEN GOLF FUND DOES NOT HAVE A PROPERTY LEVY FOR 2025.  OKAY THAT WILL GET ME INTO MY NEXT QUESTION AND THEN YOU CAN TRY TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THESE WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUR OTHER POSITIONS THAT WEREN'T TALKED ABOUT HERE THAT ARE BE ADDED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN OTHER FUNDS NOT THE GENERAL FUND BUT DON'T THEY ULTIMATELY GET PAID FOR BY SOME TYPE OF SUBSIDY FROM PROPERTY TAXES AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THOSE IF WE PUSH THE GA THE GOLF DESIGN OUT, IF WE PUSH THOSE OTHER POSITIONS OUT FORWARD WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT TO THE LEVY AMOUNT BECAUSE MEAN WE IF WE DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY IT HAD TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE AND THE GOLF FUND DOESN'T MAYBE THE GOLF ON JUST BARELY BROKE EVEN A YEAR AGO OR WHATEVER JUST PAID BACK THE OLD DEBT IT DOESN'T HAVE 300,000 SITTING AROUND TO PAY FOR THAT SO IT'S GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE AND AND THOSE POSITIONS AS WELL SO A MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILWOMAN ALLISON I BELIEVE ONCE PLANNED FOR THE GOLF COURSES WHEN IF BONDS WERE ISSUED THAT WOULD BE REIMBURSED THEN IF IF A REMODEL WAS TO TAKE PLACE FOR THE CLUBHOUSE SO THAT IT WOULD COME BACK INTO THAT FUND SO THAT IT WOULDN'T SO THE FUND WOULDN'T BEAR THE COST OF THAT GOING FORWARD. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE OTHER POSITIONS I'M JUST LOOKING FROM WHAT I PRESENTED SO THOSE FOUR POSITIONS WERE IN TWO OR THERE'S A CENTER FOR THE ARTS ASSISTANT MANAGER POSITION. SO THAT IS THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS FINE. AND THERE IS A PROPERTY TAX SUBSIDY FOR THAT FUND AND THEN ALSO ALSO IN THE CENTER THE ARTS FUND THERE'S CURRENTLY A PART TIME MAINTENANCE AND PRODUCTION SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT'S PART TIME THAT WOULD GO TO FULL TIME SO THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASED COST.  AND THEN IN THE ICE GARDEN FUND THERE AN ARENA SPECIALIST SO THAT WOULD NOT START UNTIL SEPTEMBER 2025 WHEN IT COMES BACK ONLINE AND THEN A SERVICE TAX TECHNICIAN IN THE FACILITIES FUND.  SO THAT'S AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE A DIRECT PROPERTY TAX IMPACT BUT YET THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS ARE FUNDED FROM THE OTHER FUNDS INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND. SO IF THERE'S INDIRECT IMPACT SO JUST MY COMMENTARY ON THAT I'M NOT COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH THE TWO ART CENTER ONES I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WHOLE ARTS CENTER OVERALL WE DO INVEST SIGNIFICANTLY IN THAT. IT'S A GREAT ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO THERE TO GENERATE REVENUE AND HOW DO WE BETTER PARTNER OR PUT SOME MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPECTATIONS ON SOME OF OUR PARTNERS IN THEIR IN TERMS OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND I QUESTION THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PERSON WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION WILL START FALL OF 25 AND I'LL BE COMPLETED UNTIL SOMETIME IN 2027.  SO I HAVE AN 18 MONTH CONSTRUCTION CYCLE. I'LL JUST BE BLUNT I THINK OUR STAFF IS IS DOING A GREAT JOB ON MULTIPLE PROJECTS AND CAN GET THE INPUT INTO PROGRAMING WITHOUT THE NEED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL PERSON AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO FOR 18 MONTHS WAITING FOR IT TO GET OPEN IF THEY'RE THE MANAGER OF IT OR MAYBE I'M JUST NOT THAT POSITION BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HIRING SOMEONE YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE WE NEED THEM AND IN INCURRING THAT EXPENSE THAT ENTIRE TIME THE OTHER ONES WITH THE FIRE AND WITH THE MIGHT I SPOKE PREVIOUSLY ON THE VICTIM LIAISON I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT POSITION IN THE FIRE ONES BUT THOSE OTHER ONES ARE OF CONCERN TO ME.  LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THE TRANSFER IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE FIRE MODELING WITHOUT THE TRANSFER FROM THE FIRE PENSION? THE ONLY I ASK THAT IS IT DOES SORT OF MASK WHAT THAT ACTUAL COST IS EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A FUND THAT WE CAN TRANSFER MONEY FROM IT'S SORT MASKS WHAT THAT ACTUAL COST IS AND LET'S BE BLUNT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO PERFORM I MEAN WE'VE HAD A RECORD RECORD MARKET YEARS. I MEAN IT'S IT'S NOT IT'S NOT NORMAL FOR THE STOCK MARKET INCREASE 20% YEAR OVER YEAR FOR MULTIPLE YEARS IN A ROW TO EXPECT MARKET CONDITIONS CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN THAT SAME WAY AS I THINK WOULD BE NOT BEING GOOD PLANNING IN MY IN MY MIND THAT SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS THOUGHTS QUESTIONS ONE THING I'LL ADD MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON FOR THE FIRE PENSION FUND WE DO CONSERVATIVELY ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY OUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT RECENTLY.  WE HAVE THAT FACTORED IN IN ADDITION TO THOSE TRANSFERS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TO INDEFINITELY IN 2025, THAT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO AND A HALF MILLION THAT COULD BE PLANNED . I'D LOVE TO PICK THAT UP WHEN WE CAN.  SO OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER RIVAS YOU JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS UP IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING AGAIN THANKS FOR BEING HERE FOR SATURDAYS. I SAY ANYTHING NICE HERE BUT I JUST HAD TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHAT IS THE ACTUAL BUDGET FOR THE ARTS THAT WE HAVE THAT THE CITY PROVIDES THE ARTS WITH?  SO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVA I WAS I JUST HAD VOTE FOR THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY SUPPORT AND THEN 2025 BUDGET I BELIEVE $1.5 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT SO IS THAT CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE THE PROPERTY TAX FOR THAT IS 1.5 MILLION.  THE ONLY REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE I YOU KNOW ME A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED VERY IMPORTANT ALL OF THEM FIRE THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MENTIONED I MENTIONED THE SAME THING LAST TIME THE THE ARTS ASSIST AND ALL THOSE POSITIONS AT THIS POINT ARE DIFFICULT TO SUPPORT. I EVEN HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THAT I SUPPORTED THE CRIMES VICTIMS LIAISON I YOU KNOW THE COUNTY PROVIDES THAT THE STATE PROVIDES YOU KNOW SO AND WE'RE PROVIDING ALSO THE SAME THAT THE STATE AND THE COUNTY PROVIDE ALREADY SO I QUESTION THE WISDOM ABOUT THE CITY INVESTING MORE INTO THAT. I MEAN THE ARTS I MEAN IS IT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT WE HAVE THAT SERVICE IN THE CITY? IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE REST IS NEED TO TO TO LEAVE YOU KNOW I WROTE THREE OR THE ITEMS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT BUT THE BIGGEST OF ALL I THOUGHT IT WAS $1.8 MILLION FOR THE AREAS BUT IT'S 1.5 AND IT PROBABLY LOOKED AT THE WRONG THING BUT THAT SAID I JUST I MEAN IF WE CAN SLOWLY ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THAT ARE NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE PUBLIC AND BEING THE DECISIONS THAT ARE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO IT IN THE FUTURE I'M ALL FOR THAT.  BUT HAS IT EVER BEEN CONSIDER A WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT BEHIND IT THINKING THAT IT COULD VIABLY SAVE ONE AND A HALF TO TWO OR  $3 MILLION IN A YEAR? AND I USED THOSE FUNDS TO FIND SORT OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE WANT TO CREATE.  THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE SO I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ANSWER OR NOT BUT JUST TO COMMENT THANK MR. FOR BRINGING MR. MAYOR COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I DO WANT TO JUST RESPOND TO ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON SERVICES BEING DUPLICATIVE ARE NOT DUPLICATIVE. WE HAVE OUR OWN INDEPENDENT CASELOAD HERE AND THOSE THOSE HAVE TO BE PROVIDED BY OUR PROSECUTION SERVICES. THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN CASELOAD THEY PROVIDE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON SERVICES FOR THEIR CASELOAD SAME AT THE STATE SO WE'RE NOT PROVIDING DUPLICATIVE SERVICES FOR OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT THANKS FOR THAT GRATIFICATION.  BEFORE I GO BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, I WANT TO GIVE COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK COMES FROM THE WOMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE AS YOU ASK ABOUT THE ARTS PIECE THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MOST PART AND PART OF IT I'LL TALK ABOUT LATER ON WHEN I ASKED MY QUESTIONS I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF THE THE ARTS WITH CITY HERE AND EVEN IN THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.  IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS IN TERMS OF THAT AND THEN ALSO YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE ARTS, YOU KNOW AND I'M NOT AS GREAT OF A COUNCILMEMBER AS A NATHAN COULTER WOULD TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE HISTORY OF HOW MUCH ART CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL ECONOMY, YOU KNOW, IN IN MINNESOTA IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF IT. SO WHILE YOU MAY SAVE MONEY FOR ONE YEAR, YOU KNOW, AS YOU AS YOU SLICE SLICE LET DOWN AND AND YOU KNOW, PARSE OUT AND GIVE THAT TO A, YOU KNOW, OTHER PRIORITIES IN THE LONG RUN IT WILL CREATE YOU ECONOMIC IMPACT BY DOING THAT NOW CERTAINLY THERE'S LEGITIMACY I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THAT IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF WHAT THE ARTS HAVE MEANT TO THIS THIS BUILDING TO TO THIS TO THIS BODY ITSELF.  AND THE IMPACT THAT OVERALL HAS TO OUR OUR EXISTING ECONOMY IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MEANS AND COUNCILMEMBER ALTMAN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ONCE YOU GO AHEAD AND THEM OKAY YEAH IF I IF I CAN TAKE THAT NOW THEN THANK YOU MORE SO ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS KNOW ON OUR LAST MEETING MANAGER AND MAYOR CURRY WE PASSED OR CHARGES AND ONE OF THE IMPACTS OF THOSE SAC CHARGES WAS THAT THERE COULD IN THAT FIRST YEAR OF PASSING THE SAC CHARGES THERE BE IMPACT AT THE RESIDENTIAL LEVEL TO WHAT I COULD UNDERSTAND FROM FROM READING TO THE PROPOSAL AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE ON FUTURE LEVIES OR EVEN ON THIS LEVY HERE.  MR. RUGGIE. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE WAY THE THE SAC FEES AS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL ARE BEING ASSESSED IS ON A PER UNIT BASIS DEVELOPERS SO THEY'RE THE PLACE WHERE THE SAC THE ISSUE POTENTIALLY IMPACTS TAXPAYERS IS IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE SAC FEES IN PLACE AT THE TIME THAT WE HAVE TO THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE SANITARY SEWER THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT AMOUNT LIKELY BY ISSUING DEBT THAT THE THE TAXPAYERS WOULD PAY. SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO SO THE RATEPAYERS EITHER HAVE TO PAY MORE OR WE'D HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO ISSUE DEBT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE REVENUES COMING FROM THE SECRETARY'S THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT CLARIFY ALSO IT FOR DEVELOPERS. YES, IT WOULD IMPACT A HOMEOWNER IF THEY DID. IN ADDITION ON THEIR HOME AND PUT A BATHROOM IN OR AN ADDITIONAL SINK AND A MOTHER IN LAW APARTMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEN IT WOULD IMPACT A HOMEOWNER BUT FOR FOR YOU OR I OR A GENERAL HOMEOWNER NOT DOING AN ADDITION ON YOUR HOME THOSE CHARGES ARE IMPACT NO IMPACT AT ALL. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I GET THAT THAT CLARIFIED BECAUSE I GOT SOME I GOT SOME EMAIL QUESTIONS ABOUT AND I WANTED TO BE SURE I ADDRESSED THAT HERE BEFORE IT KIND OF WENT SIDEWAYS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT TOO. SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME IMPACT AND THANK YOU MAYOR FOR THAT THAT LAST BIT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE WELL YEAH THERE'S SOMETHING AT THAT BUT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION TO ADD WAS I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOUA HAD BROUGHT FORWARD AN IDEA TAKING SOME DOLLARS OUT OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.  WAS THAT AT ALL CONSIDERED OR DID WE?  I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE THAT DISCUSSION LANDED THE LAST TIME TO KIND BRING THE LEVY DOWN. ADDITIONALLY MR. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND I WON'T PRESUME TO SPEAK FOR COUNCILMEMBER REMOVAL I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS MORE A SUGGESTION OR JUST WONDERING BUT I THINK THAT WAS DISCUSSING WHETHER COULD UP THE AMOUNT OF TAX LEVY STABILIZATION THAT'S COMING FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND MY OWN BELIEF IS I WOULD DISCOURAGE INCREASING THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE IT ONLY INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE IN THE BUDGET WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE GOING FORWARD. IT'S AN OPTION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS IF YOU IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL BUT IT'S NOT ONE THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND SO I'D BE ABOUT OTHER MEMBERS THEIR OPINIONS THAT THAT PARTICULAR TACT AND SO THEN FROM COUNCILMEMBER SANDRA'S COMMENTS I WANTED TO JUST BE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT MAYBE NOT FOLLOWING THIS COMPLETELY SO YOU KNOW IF WE WERE TO TAKE MORE OF SOME OF THOSE DEBTS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN THIS LEVY AND TRY TO SMOOTH OUT FUTURE YEARS, THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT ON YEAR'S LEVY. THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I'M STARTING TO HEAR.  IS THAT TRUE MANAGER OR NOT? I'M SORRY ONE MORE TIME. SO IF WE WERE TO TAKE ON SO IF WE WERE TO A SO FOR EXAMPLE WE WOULD HAVE A HIGHER LEVY THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF BEEN TAKING ON SOME OF THOSE YOU KNOW SOME OF THOSE FUTURE COSTS THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT TO NEXT YEAR'S LEVY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M STARTING TO HEAR THIS EVENING IS THAT WHAT STAFF IS SAYING?  WELL, IF YOU LET'S SAY YOU WERE TO LEAVE THE LEVY AT WHERE YOU SET IT FOR PRELIMINARY IT WOULD LOWER THE LEVY INCREASE THAT'S NEEDED IN 2026 JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF INCREASE BASED ON WHERE YOUR BASE AS IT IS IS TO GO UP SO YOU COULD SEE THE TAX NUMBER COME DOWN BY A COUPLE OF PERCENT IF YOU LIFTED 11 AND A HALF? I THINK I THINK WE'RE AT LIKE 14 IF IF IT WERE STILL AT A LEVEL OF HALF OF THE QUESTION YOU RAISE. YEAH THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M ASKING BECAUSE BECAUSE I'M STARTING TO HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT THAT IF WE WERE TO LOWER WOULD MAKE NO IMPACT AT ALL. NO. AND MAYBE I MAYBE WOULD HAVE MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. NO BECAUSE YOUR LEVY BASE IS HIGHER YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PRESENTING HAVE A PLACE YOU'D BE SPENDING THAT MONEY UNLESS YOU WANTED TO ALLOCATE IT TOWARDS A SPECIFIC EXPENDITURE OR YOU JUST WANTED TO SUPPLEMENT THE PRIORITIES FUND OR ANYWHERE ELSE YOU'RE DESIGNATED FOR BUT IT WOULD INCREASE THE BASE OF THE LEVY GOING INTO NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE EFFECT OF REDUCING THE INCREASE 2026. SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING CERTAINLY YOU KNOW TAMARA TO YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE AT THE OUTSET OF THIS CONVERSATION THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHERE TO PLACE THIS, I AM ALWAYS THINKING WHAT WHAT IMPACT THAT TODAY HAS ON TOMORROW.  YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO CALL THAT YOU KNOW,  ANY OTHER THING AND I DON'T WANT TO I WANT TO GET INTO IT BUT BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOME WISDOM TO WHAT YOU'RE NOW IF IF THAT ISN'T INDEED THE CASE THAT I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE SOME OF THOSE ART CENTER POSITIONS DOES MAKE SOME SENSE GIVEN THAT WE JUST SAW THAT THERE IS A REVIEW OF THE ARTS CENTER AREA IF WE WANTED TO DELAY THAT THOSE ITEMS I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT REALLY GETS US IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW WHAT BROAD DOLLARS THAT THAT GETS US FROM THE BUDGET. MAYBE IT TAKES US DOWN A HALF A PERCENTAGE OR A QUARTER PERCENTAGE BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S ONE THING TO KIND OF KIND OF LOOK AT IN TERMS OF IF WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO THAT. AND THEN I ALSO THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER WAS IDEA IN TERMS OF WHICH WOULD CREATE A AN IMBALANCE GOING INTO THE INTO THE FUTURE IS ANOTHER ANOTHER OUT TO KIND OF LOOK AT BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU KNOW STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORWARD YOU KNOW REASONABLE NUMBER BASED ON THE REDUCTIONS THAT WE'VE KIND OF ASKED THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED THERE.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, I THINK A FOLLOW UP TO THE DISCUSSION EARLIER A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES A ONE ON THE ARTS CENTER ALL I'M ADVOCATING OR DISCUSSING AND PUTTING OUT THERE IS ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF. I'M NOT TALKING REDUCING EXISTING THINGS. I THINK THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE DURING THE THE ASSESSMENT THAT'S COMING UP IF WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BUT I THINK THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE POINT THAN HERE WHERE WE HAVE INFORMATION WHERE WE CAN ADD IT OR NOT ADD IT. I DON'T WANT TO WITH ONE WEEK LEFT TRY TO JUMP INTO DOING A WHOLE ASSESSMENT OF THAT WHOLE THING.  I ALSO JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION I LOOK AT THE ARTS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I LOOK AT WITH PARK AND REC I MEAN WE SOFTBALL FIELDS FOOTBALL FIELDS, SOCCER FIELDS ALL SORTS OF ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DO THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE EXPANDING THAT.  THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR AND DESIRED AND AS TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THERE'S A CHALLENGE OF WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ASKING FOR A COMMUNITY THAT'S FULL OF THESE AMAZING AMENITIES AND WE'VE GOT OTHER PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND WE'VE GOT TO FIND A BALANCE THERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK IT'S KIND OF APPROPRIATE WE'RE GOING TO TELL MOST OF OUR COMMUNITY LIKE TAXES ARE GOING UP. WE SHOULD ALSO MAYBE JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND EVERY AMENITY, EVERY REQUEST AND THAT'S JUST REALITY.  IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF BOTH SIDES OF THIS COIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT A BUDGET TOGETHER . I THINK LET ME JUST BE FAIR. I THINK STAFF HAS DONE THAT. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE LOOKED AT THOSE AND WHAT CAN WE FIND AND WHAT CAN'T WE DO AND BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE REQUEST OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO REQUEST THINGS BUT THEN YOU GOT TO GET AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THEM IN TERMS OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND UTILIZING THAT, MY ONLY COMMENT THAT WE HAVE THIS PROCESS WHERE THE BUDGET POSITIVE BUDGET VARIANCE GOES INTO THAT AND AND I WOULD LOOK AT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE STRUCTURAL BALANCED IF THAT THAT BASICALLY AS A REDUCTION TO NEXT YEAR'S THE FOLLOWING YEAR'S TAXES AND JUST HAD A POLICY OF THAT AS MUCH AS WE COULD MAINTAIN IT OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL COULD CHANGE THAT IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE 1,000,005 TO THE GOOD FROM ONE YEAR WE JUST ROLL THAT OVER AND USE THAT TO REDUCE THE IN THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN WE CAN MANAGE THAT STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WITHIN THERE AND WE CAN SET THAT IN THE BUDGET IF WE NEED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY ASIDE FOR WHATEVER REASON CITY MANAGER KNOWS MY OPINION OF THAT FUND BUT SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING I WOULD SAY THAT I, I DON'T WE'D BREAK STRUCTURAL BALANCE IF WE HAD THAT TYPE OF POLICY WHICH I THINK WOULD KIND OF MEET SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER WAS TALKING ABOUT.  SO THOSE ARE MY TWO INTERESTING FOLLOW UPS. MR. RUDY AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I DO JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME HISTORY ON THE CENTER FOR THE TOO IN THE STAFFING REQUEST I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE DID A COUPLE OF FULL TIME STAFF PRIOR TO 2020 FOR THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AND RIGHT NOW WE BASICALLY HAVE ONE AND THE BUILDING IS OPEN ALMOST 80 HOURS A WEEK AND HAVING THE ARTS CENTER MANAGER HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL OF THOSE HOURS IS SIMPLY NOT SUSTAINABLE. I'D ALSO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT BACK IN 2019 ART HISTORY WHICH HAS A LOT OF THE PROGRAMING AND A LOT OF THE ACTIVITY IN THE CENTER ALSO HAD TWICE AS MANY STAFF AS THEY HAVE TODAY. SO JUST FROM A HUMAN AVAILABILITY PERSPECTIVE, THE NUMBER OF HUMANS AVAILABLE TO SERVICE THE ARTS CENTER ARE REALLY COMPROMISED AND I THINK WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN EXPANSION JUST ASKING FOR AN ADD BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. THANK YOU MR. BERGER COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HERE A LONG, LONG TIME AND WE HAVE BUT I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THE STAFF HAS PUT INTO THIS. WE'VE LITERALLY TURNED EVERY STONE IN IRAQ. THERE IS NO FLUFF IN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT.  NO ONE ONE'S BEEN CARRYING EXTRA MONEY IN THEIR FUNDS YEAR OVER YEAR JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT THROUGH THE YEAR. THEY'RE LITERALLY DOING AS MUCH AS WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF HAS DONE THAT AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO INVEST IN THE THINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS SAID IS IMPORTANT US POLICE AND FIRE PARKS AND RECREATION ARTISTRY THE THINGS THAT DRIVE A CITY GIFT CITIES CULTURE GIFTS, CITIES CHARACTER ARE WHAT WE'RE INVESTING IN AND IF WE REDUCE ANYTHING THE THING THAT I'VE BEEN HARPING ON IS THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT THEN WE NEED TO DRIVE EFFICIENCY TO SAY THAT WE CAN DELIVER THE SERVICES WITH FEWER PEOPLE AND WE KNOW THAT THE THE PRESSURES IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD ARE GOING TO KEEP CONTINUING AND WE CAN'T JUST THROW MONEY AT IT. WE CAN'T THROW PEOPLE AT IT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO MAKE IT THROUGH TODAY. SO YES, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT TOMORROW BUT TODAY IS STILL VERY IMPORTANT IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT TO TOMORROW LIKE THERE'S NO POINT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.  AND SO I I APPRECIATE US GETTING TO 9.25 EVERY DOLLAR EVERY MONTH MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN WHETHER SOMEONE CAN BUY A LOAF OF BREAD OR NOT.  AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE DONE THAT AS FAR AS THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE PERSON CAN DO 80 HOURS WORTH OF WORK EVERY WEEK AND SO I'D THE GETTING THAT POSITION IN PLACE THAT OUR STAFF CAN ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOBS AND WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN SCHOOL CUT MUSIC AND ART FROM THEIR PROGRAMS AND THAT IMMEDIATELY CUTS TO MORALE.  IT CUTS CREATIVITY IT CREATES DISPARITIES BECAUSE THE KIDS WHO CAN WHO HAVE FAMILIES WHO CAN AFFORD IT OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL DO BETTER THAN THE KIDS WHO CAN'T WHO RELY ON SCHOOL TO DO THAT AND THAT DIRECTLY TRANSLATES TO A COMMUNITY WHEN THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT WE CUT. AND SO I, I SUPPORT THE ARTS THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HERE AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS AS FAR AS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES NOT REALLY LOOKING TO ADD ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THAT FUND THIS YEAR, I JUST DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD THE WE HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE IT MOVING FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR AND ONWARDS ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY, VERY LARGE LEVY LEVIES COMING IN FUTURE YEARS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE FIRE ISN'T GOING TO BE DONE UNTIL 2032 AND SO THAT I THINK TO ME DEMANDS THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FUND WHETHER IT'S A SET EVERY YEAR THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT OR IF WE'RE TAKING ALL OF IT OR WE'RE JUST SPENDING. WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS? I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS CAN GET BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED.  AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SERVICES ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING.  WE MIGHT BE DELIVERING A-PLUS WORK RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S PROBABLY DRIVING A LOT OF THE COST THAT WE HAVE SO.  CAN WE GO DOWN TO B-PLUS WORK AND STILL GIVE EVERYONE WHAT WE AND STILL BE A JEWEL OF A CITY IN THE METRO HERE BUT BE ABLE TO GET THAT RELIEF THAT PEOPLE NEED. SO I THINK STAFF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION ON MONDAY NIGHT NEXT MONDAY NIGHT BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THE THIS IS ALWAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT CONVERSATION WE HAVE AND IT'S ALSO THE HARDEST ONE WE HAVE. SO I APPRECIATE IT.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, ANYTHING? NO.  ALL RIGHT. THAT'S FOR NEXT MONDAY. VERY GOOD.  ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL JUST AS WE AS WE NEED TO GET TO A NUMBER SO WE CAN GET TO MONDAY NIGHT. SO I'VE HEARD A HANDFUL OF SPECIFICS AND LET'S JUST DO A SHOW OF HANDS THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN WINK WITH YOUR RIGHT EYE SHOULD SEE US IN THE LEFT EYE IF IT'S NO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES ABOUT SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE MADE AND LET'S START COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN COUNCILMEMBER THE NOTION OF BRINGING SOME OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND INTO THE MIX THIS YEAR HELP BUY DOWN THE THE THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES INTEREST IN THAT WE'VE GOT ONE WE GOT TO WE'VE GOT THREE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR I WONDERING IF MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER COULD JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE OF THAT ARE LIKE. SO WHAT YOU WE'VE MENTIONED THAT THAT CREATES A STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE BUT WHAT WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY.  MR. RUBIO WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS NEXT YEAR RIGHT. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO CURRENTLY THE TAX LEVY STABILIZATION THAT'S BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS ABOUT $1.1 MILLION. SO IF YOU WANTED TO INCREASE THAT BY A CERTAIN  IT WHAT WE TRY TO DO WHEN WE PROVIDE THE BUDGET IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFIC REVENUE TO OFFSET SPECIFIC EXPENSES. RIGHT. THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS NOT NECESSARILY A SPECIFIC REVENUE. IT'S FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY. BUT ANY TIME YOU USE FUNDS THAT ARE ONE TIME FUNDS THAT DON'T HAVE A PREDICTABLE COMMITMENT GOING FORWARD, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR OR AT LEAST AT THAT AMOUNT. RIGHT. SO WHEN WE SAY IT'S STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN'T COUNT ON THAT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING AVAILABLE WHICH JUST COMPLICATES THE ABILITY TO PUT TOGETHER A BALANCED BUDGET IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS. SO IF WE HAD THINGS IN OUR BUDGET THAT WERE JUST REALLY TRULY ONE TIME FUNDING WE COULD SAY OKAY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUNDING TO BE DEDICATED TO THOSE THINGS.  BUT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE MAJORITY OF THESE COSTS ARE RELATED STAFF AND BENEFITS AND SO AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO START PAYING THE ACTUAL COSTS WITH A STEADY RATE REVENUE STREAMS THAT WE HAVE COMING IN . RIGHT. SO WE'RE JUST DELAYING IT'S KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD HAPPENING. OKAY. THANK YOU SO ONCE AGAIN AND AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW IF WE SET THE LEVEL AND I THINK IF IT WERE 1.2 MILLION WOULD WERE THAT BY A DOWN BY TWO POINTS OR 1 MILLION OR HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO QUICK MATH AND GO TO THE CHART THAT CURRY TO SEE HOW MUCH SO IF YOU WANTED TO GET ANOTHER QUARTER PERCENT YOU'D HAVE TO GET SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $200,000 OF ADDITIONAL REDUCTION IN THE BUDGET AND THAT GETS YOU $0.30 A MONTH.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. QUICK QUESTION. CAN YOU REMIND ME BECAUSE I THINK DID HAVE SOME BUDGET STABILIZATION AND THAT IS STILL IN THE 2025 SO WE ARE ALREADY UTILIZING SOME OF THAT $1.1 MILLION ALREADY. OKAY. THANK YOU.  AND MR. MAYOR. YEAH. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS WE BEGAN THAT COMING OUT OF COVID THAT WAS A POSITION THAT THE COUNCIL TOOK THEM TRY AND MANAGE THE LEVEE IMPACTS AND WE HAVE THAT STABILIZED AND BEING PHASED OUT IN 2026. SO THAT'S PART OF WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER FOR YEAR THAT LEVEE NUMBER THAT'S PART OF THE NUMBER AND SO THAT'S A POLICY ISSUE THE COUNCIL AS WELL BECAUSE THAT WILL GET YOU IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT $1.1 MILLION COMING OUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A PERCENT ON THE MOVIE.  VERY QUICKLY, COUNCILMEMBER, WILL THAT BE PART OF THAT JEFF HIGHWAY FUND STUDY? WILL WE LOOK AT THAT FUND TO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILOR NELSON THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS NOT ONE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE OR EXPENDITURES AND THAT CAN BE USED AS THE COUNCIL WISHES BUT IT'S LOOKING MORE AT THE THE FUNDS THAT WE BRING FORWARD FOR OUR OPERATING BUDGETS.  OKAY. I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND MAYBE WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND WE CAN DO IT IN THE BUDGET CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR . SO COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN AGA SHOW OF HANDS WHY DON'T WE DO IT THIS WAY IF WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW MUCH?  BUT AGAIN A SHOW OF HANDS FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO USE THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND TO TRY AND BUY DOWN THE LEVEE INCREASE THIS YEAR CAN I JUST ASK OVER AND ABOVE THE 1.1 MILLION THAT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED POINT 1 MILLION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. YES.  AS A COUNCILMEMBER AND OTHERS . ALL RIGHT.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SUGGEST THE REMOVAL OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER RECREATION MANAGER ARE THERE OTHERS WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF THAT SO MR. MAYOR, I HAD ASKED I HAD SAID SOMETHING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT SOMETHING SIMILAR NOT NECESSARILY REMOVING IT BUT FOR DELAYING ITS HIRE WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION FOR US.  I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE DELAYED UNTIL IT STARTED APRIL.  APRIL HIRE, RIGHT? OR MAYBE NOT BUT IF TO KIND OF CUT THAT IN HALF IF WE HAD IT THE REASON I THINK IT MIGHT BE VALUABLE IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS NEED TO FIND HOMES AND HAVE HAVE LIKE SOMEBODY SUPPORTING THEM WHILE THE COMMUNITIES IS DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING TO CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT THERE PERSONALLY GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE PROGRAMS TO SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY BUT MAYBE WE HAVE IT DELAYED UNTIL JULY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE SERVICES DELAYED UNTIL APRIL. IT'S A SAVINGS OF $34,000. SO JULY WOULD PUT US AT ABOUT AND JUST GUESSING HERE 50 MAYBE MAYBE 45 YET ANOTHER 34,000.  ANOTHER 34,000. OKAY ANOTHER 34,060 $68,000 OR SO TO DELAY THAT. SO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR SO I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD SOMEBODY WHO RAN THOSE PROGRAMS I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A SAY MANAGER WHO WILL BE CONTINUING TO RUN THE PROGRAMS . OUR CREEKSIDE MANAGER ACTUALLY DEPARTED SO BUT WE HAVE THAT POSITION, WE HAVE THAT AND I SHOULD SAY SORRY. YES SO I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEN SO MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE'VE GOT TWO POSITIONS OR SO THERE'S THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER MANAGER POSITION SO WITH THE CREEKSIDE MANAGER VACANCY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A POSITION UPGRADE THERE. OH THAT'S THAT'S A ONE FOR ONE WITH THIS RECREATION MANAGER POSITION AGAIN THIS IS A POSITION THAT IS BEING ESSENTIALLY OFFSET BECAUSE IT'S REVENUE NEUTRAL THE GALAXY PROGRAM FUNDING WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS BEING DISCONTINUED SO THE FUNDS ESSENTIALLY WASH THERE BUT FROM STAFFING PERSPECTIVE I THINK MAYBE IT'S GOOD IF DIRECTOR CARTER CAN JUST UP AND TALK ABOUT WHY THAT POSITION IS NECESSARY AND PART OF IT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND STRAIN THAT THE STAFF IS UNDER ALREADY THESE PROJECTS. RIGHT. AND SO THE PROGRAMMATIC JUST ISN'T HAPPENING.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH JAMIE MAYOR MEMBERS THE COUNCIL I THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD REPRESENTATION SOMETIMES I THINK THAT STAFF MADE THIS WHOLE BLOOMINGTON SALES TAX PROJECT DELIVERY MAY LOOK A LITTLE BIT TOO EASY IF YOU ALL REMEMBER WE HAD FULL TIME JOBS BEFORE WE TOOK ON THE DELIVERY OF THESE PROJECTS.  SO WE ARE NOT ONLY DESIGNING PLANNING FOR OPERATIONS,  PLANNING FOR PROGRAMING AND IMPLEMENTING BUT WE'RE IN THE DETAILED DESIGN OF THESE FACILITIES AND WE'RE DOING THE FULL TIME JOBS THAT WE HAD PRIOR TO THAT. WE LITERALLY DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY.  I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY TOO THAT OUR STAFF IS WORKING 70 HOURS A WEEK AND IT'S IT'S RUNNING INTO THE GROUND. SO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO POSITION OURSELVES TO HAVE THE BEST FACILITY THAT WE CAN DELIVER WHEN THE FACILITY OPENS TO HAVE THE COST RECOVERY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTING, WE NEED HELP BECAUSE MEMBER CARTER THAT'S JUST VERY HELPFUL TO HEAR BECAUSE I MEAN IT'S A GOOD REMINDER WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU JOBS BEFORE BUT THE ADDITIONAL WORK OBVIOUSLY I MEAN WE'VE SEEN THE PLANS AND ALL THAT GO HAS GONE INTO PROJECTS AND SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION THANK COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SUPER QUICK ANY CHANCE THIS CAN GET REIMBURSED FUNDED OUT OF THE SALES TAX WHEN WE DO THE BONDING SIMILAR TO I MEAN WE HAVE DESIGN COSTS ARCHITECTS LIKE THAT IF THIS IS GOING INTO PLANNING OF THAT PROJECT IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE THAT AND NOT GENERAL FUND IT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT OPENS?  MR. KIRBY YEAH. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER THAT WOULD BE AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE'S ANY ROOM WITHIN THAT BUDGET TO ACCOMMODATE WE CAN SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THERE. WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SECOND WHAT IS IT GOT TO BE SURE HERE IN COUNCIL THE LEGISLATION SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE SALES TAX IS FOR THE DEBT SERVICE COST OF ISSUANCE AND THE SET UP OF THAT. SO IN THIS LAST PLAN SALE WE USE THREE MONTHS OF REVENUES THAT CAME TO SET UP A DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FOR IT. IT CANNOT BE USED FOR STAFF.  SO THE ANSWER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IS NO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF I COULD ADD ONE OTHER THING TO IN TERMS OF A STAFFING PLAN WE ARE DESPERATE NEED OF GETTING A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER MANAGER HIRED TO ASSIST WITH THE DESIGN THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE THE DETAILED DECISIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT PERSON HIRED TO WITH THOSE DECISIONS I WOULD ADD THAT I WOULD LIKE IDEALLY TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER HIRED BEFORE WE HIRE THE MANAGER THAT'S GOING TO BE TASKED TO PROGRAM THAT FACILITY AND, TASKED TO PROGRAM THE RECREATION IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO I DON'T THINK IF WE EVEN POSTED THE CENTER MANAGER POSITION IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE SOMEONE STARTED UNTIL APRIL THEN WE START THE PROCESS OF HIRING A RECREATION MANAGER. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. SO WE'RE REALLY IN IN A CONCEPT LOOKING AT PROBABLY THE THIRD QUARTER BEFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A RECREATION MANAGER ON BOARD AND JUST WANT TO REITERATE WE TOOK THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AS WE LOOKED AT OUR BUDGET THE COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER POSITION IS ALREADY FULLY FUNDED AND IT'S BEEN SITTING VACANT SINCE MAY 6TH OF THIS YEAR AND AS JAMIE MENTIONED WE FOUND FUNDING INSIDE OUR BUDGET TO MAKE SOME CUTS TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE RECREATION MANAGER POSITION.  YOU'RE GOOD AND SO WE'RE AND ARE WE AS A GROUP GOOD WITH THE THE THE RECREATION MANAGER ALL RIGHT AND THEN THE FINAL SUGGESTION THAT I HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF FOLKS WAS FUNDING FOR A CENTER FOR THE ARTS WHICH I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. I DO THINK YOU'RE CORRECT IN SAYING THAT WE NEED TO DO THE THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS BECAUSE IT'S THE 1.5 MILLION IS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT BY THE CITY ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THE FACILITY WORK THAT GOES ON AND SO ON BUT I ALSO AM A BELIEVER OF THAT I MEAN WHAT I EARLIER THAT THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THE PRIORITIES AND VALUES OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS COMMUNITY VALUES THE ARTS I MEAN WITHOUT QUESTION THIS COMMUNITY VALUES THE ARTS AND THAT'S WHAT I WILL SAY FOR THIS ONE. BUT I WOULD LIKE A SHOW OF HANDS DO WE WANT TO DO WE WANT TO REDUCE FUNDING FOR THAT COUNCILMEMBER CREATOR AND AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR SO.  THERE WAS AN INCREASE THIS YEAR, RIGHT? WE WERE AT A MILLION AND THEN WE WENT TO 1.5 AND I, I CAN SEE THE MODEL THAT SHOWS THE FUND GETTING GOING INTO THE RED CURVE. I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OBVIOUSLY.  I DON'T HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY BUT THAT'S I THINK I ASK QUESTION LIKE DO WE HAVE TO INCREASE THIS YEAR LIKE CAN WE STICK WITH THE 1 MILLION? BUT I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING WITH THE LEVEL OF THE SERVICE FUND THERE IS MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER YOU'RE CORRECT THE FUND WAS LOOKING PRETTY BAD. WE IN THE LONG TERM GOT IT OUT OF THE RED BUT SOME OF THAT IS PUTTING SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE FACILITY FROM TO RIGHT AND SO IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HYBRID FROM HOW WE NORMALLY APPROACH THINGS WHERE ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE EMBEDDED IN THAT BUDGET AND WE PUT SOME OF THOSE ONTO THE FACILITY FUND OKAY THANK YOU. I WILL JUST SAY THAT YOU KNOW I FEEL SO THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS WAS OBVIOUSLY CREATED LONG BEFORE I WAS CITY COUNCIL AND AT THAT TIME THE CITY COUNCIL'S YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY MEMBERS DECIDED THAT THIS WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT PRIORITY AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INVESTMENT A LOT OF INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY AND TAXPAYERS BUT ALSO PRIVATE DONORS.  WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THEM DURING THE ART HISTORY CONVERSATION AND I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO MAKE ANY MAJOR JUST INVESTMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME ROBUST COMMUNITY.  I JUST DON'T WE SAW THE KIND OF FEEDBACK WE GOT WHEN WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE DMV FOR VERY SIGNIFICANT BUDGET REASONS. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WE DISINVESTED IN THE ARTS SO I WILL JUST SAY I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING ANY MAJOR DECISIONS RELATED DISINVESTING OR CUTTING FUNDING WITHOUT DOING SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE INVESTED THEIR OWN RESOURCES INTO THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THIS IS PROBABLY IRRELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE, BUT I KNOW MR. BRUGUIERE MENTIONED IN , YOU KNOW, JUST ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE AN ASSESSMENT NEXT YEAR FOR THE ARTS. AND I THINK NECESSARY.  I DO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS THEIR MISMANAGEMENT OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THE BUSINESS AND AND KNOW YOU MAYOR HAS MENTIONED THAT BEFORE SO THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I STRONGLY SUPPORTED THE ARTS HOWEVER I DON'T SEE THE EFFECT IT DOES HAVING OR THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OUR LOCATION YOU KNOW RIGHT AFTER A PLAY MOST PEOPLE GO HAVE DINNER OR JUST BEFORE THE PLAY WE DON'T HAVE THAT THOSE AMENITIES AROUND HERE SO I DON'T REALLY SEE THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF HAVING THE ARTS CENTER HERE IN IN CIVIC PLAZA BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN AND AND PETER THAT YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND HOW IT CAME ABOUT AND ALL THAT. BUT I DO HAVE A HARD TIME BECAUSE OF A LOT OF EVEN EVEN RESIDENTS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH ME EMAIL ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT THEY MISMANAGE A LOT OF THEIR FINANCES SO THAT'S IT THAT'S YOU KNOW I AGAIN I FOR THOSE REASONS I WILL NOT SUPPORT THESE I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE COUNCIL IS 100% BEHIND IT BUT I AGAIN I FEEL THAT I GOT ELECTED REPRESENT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED ME IN AND I'M GOING TO LEAN ON THAT THIS TIME AND I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER I DO. BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION THE ORGANIZATION ART HISTORY HAD THE FINANCIAL ISSUES WE'RE ABOUT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS WHICH IS A CITY ORGANIZATION BASICALLY THE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU IS THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS ART ARTISTRY IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT PUTS ON PLAYS WITHIN THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS SO IT'S A THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WHEN YOU SAY MISMANAGEMENT YES ARTISTRY MESSED BIG TIME THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE ORGANIZATION. IT'S MORE THE THE STRUCTURAL AND THE OPERATIONAL PORTION THAT HOUSES ART HISTORY CONTINENTAL BALLET, THE CHORALE I MEAN ALL THE DIFFERENT ARTS GROUPS THAT ARE HERE THAT SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THERE SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD AND CLEARLY THINK OF IT'S A METAPHOR FOR THE EXPLANATION. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE LISTENING RIGHT NOW AND IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TO DO IT THE QUESTION THAT ARISING THOUGH IS IN REGARDS TO SOME DONATIONS THAT CITY TO TO ARTISTRY BEFORE SO IF HE'S ANY GLORIFICATION WHICH A BE THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS THAT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL I COULD SAY YOU KNOW I JUST I BASE A LOT OF WHAT I SAY HERE ON WHAT I HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENTS NOT SO MUCH AND WHAT I BELIEVE BECAUSE I'M 100% WITH A LOT OF WHAT THE CITY IS DOING I THINK IS IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT NECESSARILY FOR US. I MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE AROUND TO SEE A LOT OF IT OR THE BENEFIT OF IT BUT BUT IT IS BUT IT IS I MEAN I'M TALKING ABOUT MYSELF WELL YOU GUYS ANTONIO MR.. BUT THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW,  YOU THE COUNCIL AND THE MANAGER STAFF HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN THE LAST TEN YEARS OR SO. I MEAN THE CITY HAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTER A LOT OF MODERNIZATION HAS TAKEN PLACE BUT BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE NOT BECAUSE OF MYSELF BUT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED ME SO THAT SAID, I LEAN ON THINGS THAT SEEM THAT I'M A LOT OF THE CITY PLANS AND DECISIONS BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB I KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU.  YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS IMPROVED TREMENDOUSLY FROM THE TIME I MOVED THE CITY BACK IN 2010 BUT AGAIN IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT.  I VOTE DIFFERENT WAYS SOMETIMES THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT HERE TO MYSELF AND I WILL SAY KUDOS TO YOU AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I MEAN YOU'RE WRAPPING UP YOUR FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL HERE AND HAS SEEN DEFINITE GROWTH AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. SO GOOD.  MR. VERHEUGEN THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER, U.S. SO GOING BACK IN HISTORY IN 2016 THE CITY DECIDED TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARTISTRY FROM WHAT ESSENTIALLY WAS A COMMUNITY THEATER TO A PROFESSIONAL REGIONAL THEATER AND THE PLAN THAT WAS LAID OUT INCLUDED ESSENTIALLY A A BRIDGE FOR THEM TO GROW INTO THAT VISION. SO THERE WAS AN ANNUAL OR WHAT WE CALLED A SUPPLEMENTAL ARTS GRANT BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE DO CULTURAL ARTS GRANTS TO ART ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY PRIMARILY.  THE SEVEN RESIDENT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS THIS WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL ARTS GRANT TO ARTISTRY TO HELP THEM BUILD INTO THAT PROFESSIONAL REGIONAL THEATER AND JUST AT THE END OF THAT WHAT WAS INITIALLY A FIVE YEAR INVESTMENT IS WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND SO THE COUNCIL AGREED TO EXTEND BY A YEAR OR MAYBE EVEN TWO THAT SUPPLEMENTAL ARTS GRANTS TO GET THEM TO STABILITY.  AND THEN YES, THEY RAN INTO FINANCIAL ISSUES. THERE WAS A LEADERSHIP IN ART HISTORY. THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO MAKE ONE LAST INVESTMENT TO GET THEM STABILIZED AND WE ARE NO LONGER PROVIDING A GRANT TO THEM OTHER THAN THE CULTURAL ARTS GRANTS THAT THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ACCESS TO THE OTHER THE OTHER COMMENT THAT I SAY IS THAT THE IMPACT TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY FROM PRESENCE OF ARTS IN OUR ORGANIZATION IS SIGNIFICANT AND.  IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS. THERE WAS A 2019 STUDY I BELIEVE THAT LOOKED AT THE ECONOMIC IN BLOOMINGTON FROM THE ARTS AND ARTISTS AND IT WAS $13 MILLION A YEAR. SO IF YOU PUT THAT IN CONTEXT OF THE ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS THAT'S THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ROI ON THAT INVESTMENT.  THANK YOU MR. BRUIN SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, A LITTLE CONTEXT FOR YOU THERE AND IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE THIS ALONG AND MAKE SURE STAFF HAS CLARITY AS WE GO FORWARD HERE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUNDING CHANGES FOR THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS FOLKS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.  AND AGAIN FOR CLARIFICATION, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DEFUNDING I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT INCREASING UNDERSTOOD AT THIS TIME. UNDERSTOOD BUT I SEE COUNTING NOSES. I SEE THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS WHO WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IT SO I BELIEVE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS HERE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING I THINK THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS THOSE WERE THE SUGGESTIONS BROUGHT FORWARD. ARE WE COMFORTABLE TURNING IT OVER TO STAFF AND HAVING THAT SET FOR NEXT MONDAY NIGHT FOR OUR TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING ? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON DOES ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TARGET PROGRAM SPECIALIST THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED IT EXPLICITLY BUT THAT WAS OTHER ONE IN THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. IF NOT THEN LET'S SAVE THE TIME CAN I JUST REAL QUICKLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF FOLKS WHO BE VIEWING AND AREN'T SURE WHAT THAT IS, THE COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED AS A STRATEGIC THAT ALIGNS WITH THE EQUITABLE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO DEVELOP A SUPPLIER DIVERSITY PROGRAM THE TARGETED COORDINATOR IS THE PERSON THAT ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE THE STAFF TO GET THAT PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING AND THEN IMPLEMENTED SO THAT WE COULD MEET THAT OBJECTIVE. SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S SUGGESTION ANY ANY SUPPORT FOR PERHAPS ELIMINATING THAT FROM THIS PROPOSED BUDGET?  COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER FOR COUNCILMEMBER SO JUST A QUESTION ON THAT AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF OF BRINGING ON A EQUITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE TRANSITION AT THE TOP. IS THERE ANY CONCERN THAT THAT IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO DELAY TO FUTURE BUDGET TO TAKE THIS ON? HELP ME UNDERSTAND MR. FARRAGUT MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER MALONE AND I THINK ARE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF NOT FUNDING CERTAIN POSITIONS AS A TARGETED MARKET PROGRAM COORDINATOR OR ONE OF THOSE YES.  KNOWING THE NARRATIVE ABOUT OH, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT SO THAT WORK IS ACTUALLY PRIMARILY GOING TO BE DONE IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND NOT IN THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION OR ABLE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY BUT IS PRIMARILY A PERSON WITHIN FINANCE WHO'S GOING TO GET THE PROCESS UP AND RUNNING SO THE YOU KNOW, THE TIMING OR THE DECISION ON WHO THE CHIEF EQUITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER IS GOING TO BE IS IS INDEPENDENT OF THIS PROCESS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT THEIR PRIMARY ROLE IS OR THEY'LL BE ADDITIONAL THAT THIS THIS PERSON GOING BE DOING THIS WON'T BE ON THIS.  WELL, I THINK YOU SEE ON THE AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE THE IMPACT WOULD BE IF IT WAS IT WOULD JUST THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PRIOR THE PURCHASING PROCESS. YEAH RIGHT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THIS ONE IS REALLY CHALLENGING BECAUSE I THERE IS PART OF ME THAT'S LIKE WELL LET'S JUST DELETE UNTIL 2026 AND THE OTHER PART OF ME THOUGH IS YOU KNOW I THINK ABOUT OF THE I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES LOCAL FOLKS WHO ARE JUST LIKE WE CAN'T EVEN IN YOUR IN THE RFP PROCESS THE CITY LIKE WE CAN'T GET YOU KNOW LIKE FOR WHATEVER REASONS THERE ARE A VARIETY OF BARRIERS AND SO SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR I, I JUST THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE BARRIERS AND MAYBE I'M NOT DOING A GOOD JOB OF REALLY ARTICULATING WHAT THIS IS EXACTLY BUT BASED ON WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND WHAT'S ON THIS SLIDE AND WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT THEY'VE HAD FRUSTRATIONS IN THE PAST AND THAT THIS WOULD HELP OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM AND SO SO I WOULD BE INCLINED TO TO KEEP IT DELAYING THE START BUT KEEPING IT SO SO THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO DELAY IT UNTIL JULY.  ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR ARE THERE ENOUGH FOLKS WHO ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?  MM HMM.  YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THAT UNDER IS THAT CLEAR? ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, IS THERE ANYTHING COUNCILMEMBER YOU MAYOR ONE THING THAT I HEARD FROM COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THAT I JUST TO MAKE SURE TO EVERYONE LISTENING IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT OUR BUDGET HERE I'M NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT WHO ELECTED ME INTO OFFICE AS A AT LARGE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.  MY ROLE IS TO THINK ABOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE ALL 92,000 PLUS OF US AND NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO AGREE WITH WHAT I THINK AND I'M NOT GOING TO AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE NOT WITH EVERY WELL EVERYONE ELSE THINKS WHAT MY ROLE IS. I THINK ABOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE ABOUT ALL 92,000 PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT EACH DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER HAS TO DO IS THINK THEIR WHOLE DISTRICT BECAUSE I ONLY GOT ELECTED BY 55 SOME PERCENT THERE'S 45% OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO DO NOT ELECT ME TO OFFICE BUT I STILL THINK ABOUT THEM WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS BUDGET AND I STILL CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO IT AS A CITY A WHOLE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE PIECE I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR IS THAT WHEN WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, WE'RE TALKING LITERALLY ABOUT OUR CITY AS A WHOLE. AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER SO COUNCIL ARE WE COMFORTABLE HEADED TOWARD NEXT MONDAY NIGHT? I'M HOPING TO SEE SEVEN NODDING HEADS, SIX NODDING HEADS. WE'RE GOOD GARY YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED TO.  GET US READY FOR NEXT MONDAY NIGHT. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 9.25% WITH MAYBE PERHAPS THE THE THE DELAY THE OF THE PROGRAM MANAGER UNTIL MIDNIGHT. OKAY.  MID-YEAR NEXT YEAR SO IT WON'T IT WON'T MOVE THAT NEEDLE ALL MUCH SO.  ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK  GOOD WORK COUNCIL GOOD WORK ON THAT I MEAN THAT'S I COUNCILMEMBER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE DO ALL YEAR AND SO I APPRECIATE THE INPUT AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONING AND I APPRECIATE THE THE WORK THE RESPONSE FROM STAFF AND THEN THE BACK AND FORTH AND I WELL DONE WORK A GOOD SPOT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC HEARING MONDAY NIGHT AND TO SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY WILL BE ON ITEM TEN AND 4.4. THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION OUR CITY MANAGER TRANSITION. YOU'VE ALL HEARD BY NOW THAT MR. VERBRUGGE WILL BE LEAVING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AFTER ALMOST TEN YEARS HE'S TAKEN THE ROLE AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES, TWIN CITIES AND GOOD FOR THEM NOT SO GOOD FOR US BECAUSE THEY ARE CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS AN OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION AND AND JAMIE, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU VERY HAPPY FOR YOU.  YOU'RE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS WITH THE ORGANIZATION. I KNOW YOU WILL AND WE CAN WE GET YOU MORE AS WE GET INTO JANUARY AND WE CERTAINLY WILL DO THAT. BUT I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND LIKE I SAID, GOOD FOR THEM, BAD FOR US BUT WE'LL WE WILL WE WILL MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS BIGGER THAN ONE PERSON. RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE AND SO THAT IN MIND AS WE LOOK AT THE TRANSITION I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL AS TO WHERE WE WERE. THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF PIECES TO THIS I THINK AND DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE AND I'M GUESSING THAT DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE MADE EITHER BY NEXT WEEK OR INTO THE COMING WEEKS AND BY NEXT WEEK I HOPE TO HAVE A DECISION MADE REGARDING AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER. WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEBODY TO FILL THE FILL THIS CHAIR AND AND COUNCIL NIGHTS AND TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY JUST IN GENERAL AND WE'LL HAVE THAT WILL WE'LL COME TO THAT DECISION BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONDAY NIGHT AS TO WE WANT TO STRUCTURE THAT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK IN TERMS OF THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND THEN IN THE NEXT COMING WEEKS WE WILL ULTIMATELY TO PICK A SEARCH FIRM TO HELP US THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT AND THE ULTIMATE OF THE NEXT CITY MANAGER. THIS IS I MEAN FACE IT BLOOMINGTON IS A IS THE PLUM JOB IN MINNESOTA THIS IS THIS IS THE BEST CITY MANAGER POSITION I THINK IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES, WE COULD SIMPLY PUT AN AD IN THE STAR TRIBUNE AND I THINK WE'D GET A TON OF FOLKS BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS RECRUITMENT CORRECTLY AND DO IT WELL.  AND AND SIMILARLY I KNOW THAT THE THE RECRUITING FIRMS THE SEARCH FIRMS IN THE TWIN CITIES ALSO SEE THIS AS A PLUM OPPORTUNITY.  THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND THEY WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO THAT TIME IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO I WOULD SAY TOWARD THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AROUND THE TRANSITION TIME JUST BECAUSE AS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE HOLIDAYS HERE, IT'S JUST GOING TO BECOME HARDER AND HARDER TO TO ABLE TO FOCUS AND TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN SEARCH FIRMS AND LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT AND DETERMINE HOW WE WANT WHAT THEM WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO AND HOW WE WANT THEM TO DO IT. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY COUNSEL ,THE SAME WILL BE TRUE WITH YOU IF THE AS SOMEBODY WHO WENT THROUGH A SEARCH LAST TIME I CAN SAY THAT EACH ONE OF YOU WILL BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.  THE SEARCH FIRM THAT WE BRING IN WILL TALK TO EACH OF YOU TO TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU HOPE TO SEE IN NEXT CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IT IS INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE AND TO BE AS HONEST AND OPEN AND FORTHCOMING AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN BE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE AS A COUNCIL COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE PROFILE AND THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE FOR THIS POSITION.  AND IT'S IT'S NOT A SMA TASK AND THEN ULTIMATELY AS WE GET INTO AS WE GET INTO INTERVIEWING AND SELECTION, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION FROM A COUNSEL STANDPOINT IF WE WANT TO DO IT AS A AS A WHOLE, IF WE WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, HOW WE WANT TO DO THAT AND THEN WELL THAT'S WHAT THE SEARCH COMMITTEE OR SEARCH FIRM WILL HELP US DO AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE. BUT SO THOSE THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE STEPS MOVING FORWARD. FIGURE OUT AN INTERIM BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK, PROBABLY AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR OR MAYBE INTO MID-JUNE WHERE WE FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS AND START MOVING FORWARD ON THE SEARCH FIRM.  THEN AS WE GET INTO THE SEARCH THE COUNCIL WILL BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED.  I'M GUESSING THAT'LL BE THE FIRST AND MAYBE PUSHING INTO THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2025.  ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT MR. DRAGHI DID I FORGET ANYTHING? NO, MAYOR, YOU DID NOT. I THINK OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WILL WILL PROBABLY JUST WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT IDEAL TIMELINE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR YOU TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE INTERIM PERIOD OR EXTEND THE INTERIM PERIOD THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT HOW LONG EXPECT THAT TIME FRAME TO BE IF IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S NECESSARY FOR SELECTING A RECRUITING FIRM BY JANUARY 6TH. THE NEXT MEETING WOULDN'T BE UNTIL JANUARY 27TH IF YOU DO HAVE AN OPEN MONDAY ON JANUARY . SO YOU KNOW IF YOU NEEDED TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING JUST THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS TIMELY WE COULD PROBABLY ARRANGE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. WE COULD SO COUNCIL THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THAT'S THE THE PATH FORWARD AND AS I SAID WE WILL HAVE TIME TO PROPERLY VET MR. MR. ROONEY AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE TO THE JANUARY SIX DEPARTURE DATE CONCERNING EMPLOYMENT. SO JUST ONE ONE QUESTION SO I'M ASSUMING GIVEN THE TRANSITION THAT PROBABLY PUTS THE KIBOSH ON ANY RETREAT FOR THIS BODY. OH, I REALLY WOULDN'T SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN I AM STILL PRESUMING THAT SATURDAY JANUARY 11TH WILL BE A COUNCIL RETREAT AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THAT RETREAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE AN AWFUL LOT TO TALK ABOUT. YEAH, YEAH.  STILL ON THE CALENDAR AND I THINK THIS TRANSITION WILL PROBABLY BE A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT A COUNCIL RETREAT SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT ON YOUR CALENDARS PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR, FINAL THIS EVENING'S ITEM 4.5 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY IN ISSUE UPDATE I HAVE NOTHING MR. RUBY MR. KOPPEL MR. MAYOR NEWS LAST FRIDAY POSITIVE NEWS FROM AN ECONOMIC IMPACT PERSPECTIVE FOR CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SKY WATER TECHNOLOGIES IN IN THE SOUTH LOOP AREA YOU MAY RECALL THAT A YEAR AGO THE COUNCIL HAD SIGNED OFF ON A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THEIR FEDERAL CHIPS FUNDING APPLICATION.  THEY'RE A COMPANY THAT IS IN THE SEMICONDUCTOR BUSINESS AND THEY RECEIVED THEIR UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE CHIPS FUNDING ALLOCATION ON FRIDAY AT LEAST THE I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE GIANT CHECK IN THEIR HAND THERE'S A $19 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL CHIPS FUND AND THAT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE FOLKS IN OUR PORT AUTHORITY WHO HELPED PROVIDE THE SUPPORT.  SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE CONTINUE TO A LOT OF REALLY POSITIVE FORWARD PROGRESS IN INVESTMENT AND REINVESTMENT IN BLOOMINGTON ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGH TECH INDUSTRY.  ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I'LL START SAYING THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME TO TO DO THIS SO MANY YEARS AND I GUESS I WOULD SAY PROBABLY DECADES. THE CITY COUNCIL OF BLOOMINGTON GRANTED ADDITIONAL TIME OFF FOR CITY STAFF AND AND SO AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO TO GET TO DO THIS TONIGHT. I BELIEVE SO SO DEEPLY THAT WE HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST AS IT COMES TO CITY STAFF. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING TREMENDOUSLY DAY AFTER DAY, ALL YEAR LONG AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COUNCIL TO JOIN ME IN SHARING APPRECIATION WITH ALL BLOOMINGTON CITY STAFF AND THEN APPROVE AN ADDITIONAL HALF DAY OFF AROUND THE HOLIDAYS. AND I THINK THAT WAS DECEMBER 24TH THIS YEAR. DO I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION WE OFFICIALLY NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO TO GRANT STAFF A HALF DAY OFF ON DECEMBER 24TH OF THIS YEAR. SO I MAKE THAT MOTION SAVING A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER MOTION IN THE SECOND TO GRANT STAFF A HALF DAY OF VACATION ON DECEMBER 24TH THIS YEAR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS COUNCILMEMBER YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN TERMS OF THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT OUR STAFF DOES DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TO PROVIDE THIS FOR THEM SO COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE FOR OUR COUNCIL ISSUES AND UPDATE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON VERY QUICK THING SO WE GOT OUR CALENDAR OF MEETINGS NEXT YEAR WHICH KNOW WE ALREADY APPROVED AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO BRING IT UP THEN BUT MAYBE IN THE RETREAT COULD WE TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOR ME IT WOULD BE EASIER TO JUST MEET EVERY MONDAY AND GET OUT OF HERE CLOSER TO NINE THAN 11 I THINK AND I DON'T KNOW YET. I MEAN IT'S ANOTHER NIGHT FOR STAFF BUT IT'S ALSO HOW MANY TIMES DO WE GO UNTIL 11 AND THEN CUT SOME STAFF LOOSE AT 1045 AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN ANYWAY? SO ANYWAY, I JUST SOMETHING TO DISCUSS DON'T NEED TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT? YOU ARE CORRECT COUNCILMEMBER WE DID APPROVE THE CALENDAR BUT YEAH THAT COULD BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT OUR AT  OUR RETREAT AND AND COUNCILMEMBER CURRY I'VE GOT A QUESTION OR I WAS JUST SAY LITERALLY JUST BROUGHT THIS UP TO JAMIE AND MAYOR BECAUSE I WAS LIKE CAN WE JUST WE JUST MEET EVERY AND BE DONE BY NINE LIKE SO WE DON'T MEET YEAH SO MR. FAROOQ YEAH. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS ONE OUT INTO THE LIGHT OF DAY BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM MORE THAN ONE OF YOU ABOUT THIS I HEAR CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED THE NATIONAL LEAGUE CITIES CONFERENCE. THE THREE OF US HAD THIS CONVERSATION OVER SO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO STAFF AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE MEETINGS. RIGHT. AND IT SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR THE COUNCIL TO TALK IS GOING BACK TO HAVING ONE MEETING OUT OF THE MONTH THAT'S JUST A STUDY SESSION AND TAKE THE BUSINESS ITEMS ESSENTIALLY AND JUST PUT THEM ON ONE NIGHT RIGHT THEN SO I THINK IF IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO DO THAT AND WILLING COMMIT TO MEETING EVERY MONDAY NIGHT THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO MANAGING THE YOU KNOW HOW LATE THE MEETINGS GO YOUR SESSIONS MAY GO LATER BUT THE OTHER THE OTHER MEETINGS MAYBE WILL GO A LITTLE BIT QUICKER SO SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RUBY. COUNCIL THAT WRAPS UP OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING NO FURTHER BUSINESS HAD ENTERTAINED A MOTION TO ADJOURN SOME MOTION THE SECOND TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING YES PROPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT COUNSEL THANKS TO STAFF THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO IS JOINING US HERE AND JOINING US ON LINE EVERYBODY.  HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR WEEK