##VIDEO ID:y46FPUe16Ig## .  GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT AS MONDAY OCTOBER 23RD, 2024. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO IS JOINING US IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WATCHING ONLINE. WE HAVE A SPECIAL HONOR ONCE AGAIN THIS EVENING WHERE THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT GUARD WILL BE PRESENTING THE COLORS. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF WHITNEY.  SET US UP FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE COLORS. THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE STANDING IN THE WAY I'M ABLE TO TALK .  OFFICERS, PLEASE THEN ARE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IN ORDER  YOU MAY BE SEATED.  THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR HONOR GUARD AND ALL THE REST OF YOU. I THINK THAT IS JUST SO COOL WHEN THEY DO THAT. I MEAN AND JUST SO APPRECIATIVE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE HONOR GUARD AND THE FACT THEY'RE WILLING TO TO HELP US OUT HERE AT COUNCIL MEETING. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN STILL HEAR ME OUT THERE BUT EXTEND OUR THANKS TO THE HONOR GUARD FOR FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  AND COUNSEL, AS WE GO THROUGH OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY THE HONOR GUARD WAS WITH US THIS EVENING OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS, OF COURSE, IS TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA AND UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS 2.1 WE HAVE A SWEARING IN OF OUR BLOOMINGTON POLICE OFFICERS AND ALSO HAVE AN INTRODUCTION OF DEPARTMENT CIVILIAN MEMBERS AND RECOGNITION OUR BLOOMINGTON EXPLORERS AND THEIR COMPETITION RESULTS WHICH WERE VERY IMPRESSIVE.  ITEM 2.2 THEN WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATION ON THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY BRAIN HEALTH SERVICES PROGRAM THAT IS PART OF OUR BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT VERY PROGRAM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IT RECEIVED SOME GOOD PRESS IN THE MINNESOTA STAR WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE RECOGNITION OF THE OUTSTANDING DONE WITHIN OUR BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS THAT IN 2.3 IS A PROCLAMATION FOR VETERANS DAY AND ITEM 2.4 IS A PROCLAMATION FOR A NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.  AS WE MOVE ON BEFORE A CONSENT BUSINESS WE'VE GOT AN ITEM UNDER ITEM FOUR, A TIMED ITEM WHICH IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE SALE OF TAXABLE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE REVENUE BONDS FOR THE THE ICE CARD AND THE THE ICE CARD IN THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN. AND IHINK YOU WILL HEAR WE HAD A VERY GOOD DAY IN THE MARKET TODAY BUT BECAUSE THAT IS A TIMED ITEM AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING WHO DON'T KNOW TIMED AN ITEM MEANS WE WERE PAYING CONSULTANTS TO BE HERE SO WE MOVE IT UP IN THE AGENDA SO WE GET IT DONE AND WE CAN GET THEM OFF THE CLOCK AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO THAT'S WHAT A TIMED ITEM IS AND SO THAT WILL BE THAT WILL COME IN AFTER 2.4. WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT BUSINESS.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS CONSENTED THIS EVENING AND WE HAVE 15 ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. WE WILL THEN BACK TO ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND GO TO ITEM 4.2 OUR ONLY PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING THIS REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS AND THAT IN PARTICULAR BEING THE CANNABIS LICENSING REGULATIONS A NUMBER OF THINGS ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND IN 5.1 IS A STUDY ITEM ARE OUR CONTINUING REVIEW OF THE IRS ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO REVIEW ITEM 5.2 IS ANOTHER STUDY ITEM AN UPDATE ON THE SOUTH LOOP PLAN ITEM 5.3 IS A DISCUSSION OF OUR PROPOSED TEN YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THEN WE GET INTO SOME OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS ITEM 5.4 OR 2025 BUDGET DISCUSSION WITH OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT ITEM 5.5 IS THAT SAME DISCUSSION REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITEM POINT SIX OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION REGARDING OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND WE WILL WRAP UP AS WE DO UNDER ITEM 5.7 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A RATHER BEEFY AGENDA AGAIN THIS EVENING. SO I WOULD ASK COUNSEL AND I WOULD ASK STAFF AND ANYBODY PARTICIPATING MAKE SURE THAT OUR OUR QUESTIONS ARE SUCCINCT AND OUR STATEMENTS TO THE POINT AND WE GET THROUGH THIS SO WE'RE NOT HERE UNTIL NOVEMBER AND WE CAN GET THIS DONE AND MAKE SURE WE GET IT DONE ON TIME SO.  THAT IS THE AGENDA I WOULD UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS I WILL MOVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. SECOND A MOTION IN THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA PRESENTED HERE NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES AT SEVEN ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA AND ITEM 2.1 ON THAT AGENDA IS A SWEARING IN OF OUR BLOOMINGTON POLICE.  WE WILL START WITH THAT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE INTRODUCTION OF THE DEPARTMENT CIVILIAN MEMBERS AND THE RECOGNITION OF EXPLORERS AND COMPETITION RESULTS POLICE CHIEF BOOKER HODGES, WELCOME THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND THANKS FOR KICKING THIS OFF FOR US. THANK YOU. I WON'T CALL A AUDIBLE HERE THOUGH. I'M GOING TO DO THE CIVILIANS IF THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DO THE CIVILIANS FIRST. SO FIRST WE'LL BRING UP ON DANIELLE AND HAYLEY.  SORRY. YOU KNOW I HAD TO CALL AUDIBLE. YOU'LL BE ALL RIGHT SO IF YOU COULD JUST TELL THE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WHO YOU ARE WHERE YOU GREW UP AND THERE'S A QUESTION THERE FOR YOU TO ANSWER RIGHT.  CERTAINLY MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. MY NAME IS DANIELLE KUSHER.  I JUST STARTED HERE IN JUNE. I GREW UP IN THE WES METRO IN CHASKA.  I GOT MY MASTER'S IN BUSINESS FROM SAINT MARY'S UNIVERSITY BEFORE STARTING HERE I WAS THE SUPERVISOR IN THE JURY OFFICE SERVICING, THE FOURTH DISTRICT WHICH IS HENNEPIN COUNTY. IF YOU GET CALLED JURY DUTY THAT WAS NOT ME. IT WAS ALL RANDOM. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. WELL, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND WELCOME THE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AS WELL. MY NAME IS HAILEY SIMPSON.  I GREW UP PARTIALLY IN DES MOINES, IOWA AND PARTIALLY IN  ,MINNESOTA. I AM WITH DISPATCH HERE.  I ACTUALLY CAME FROM A DISPATCH AGENCY IN COLORADO,  NORTHEASTERN COLORADO, WELD COUNTY AND I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALSO FOR THOSE YOU DON'T THINK IT DOES OUR JCP PROGRAM SO I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'LL BE MEETING WITH YOU ALL AND SHE'S REALLY HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND HAILEY IS DOING A GREAT JOB IN OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER AND I THINK YOU'RE ALMOST DONE WITH TRAINING, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH SO WE'D LIKE TO NOT BRING PEOPLE TO THE COUNCIL UNTIL THEY'RE ACTUALLY DONE WITH THEIR TRAINING.  THAT'S JUST ONE CHANGE I MADE WHEN I WAS CHIEF SO NEXT UP WILL BE THE POLICE OFFICERS. SO FIRST I'LL BRING UP RYAN THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS STUFF AND I'LL BRING UP NICK. YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS STUFF AND THEN WE'LL DO THE OATH OF OFFICE THE PIECE .  GOOD EVENING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS RYAN BANISTER.  I GREW UP IN COTTAGE GROVE, MINNESOTA. I HAVE AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM IMPERIAL SECURITY COLLEGE AND PRIOR TO COMING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I WORKED FIVE YEARS IN THE U.S. POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU. ALWAYS GLAD TO TAKE YOU DOWN EMPLOYEES.  WE CAN THEY'LL SMILE.  MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. MY NAME IS NICHOLAS HART.  I GREW UP IN THE GREAT CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. I AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM CENTURY COLLEGE AND PRIOR TO HERE I WAS A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER AT RAMSEY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR FIVE YEARS. I'M VERY GOOD. WELCOME SOMEONE TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PRIVILEGE HERE. I'VE KNOWN NICK SINCE WHAT?  I THINK I WAS 19 YEARS OLD AND SO THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE GOT TOIRE HIM. I HIRED HIM AT RAMSEY COUNTY AND KNOW DON'T CRY, MAN. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET EMOTIONAL HERE. BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS KNOW I GOT SEVEN YEARS LEFT TO WORK SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO SWEAR IN EITHER EITHER OF MY SONS ARE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE STILL YOUNG AND IF I'M STILL WORKING THEN SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAS HAPPENED. BUT SO NICK IS GOING BE THE CLOSEST THING, YOU KNOW, TO ME AS A YOUNGER BROTHER. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR HIM TO BE HERE AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB FOR THE OF BLOOMINGTON LONG AFTER I'M GONE SO KEEP THIS RECORDED NICK SO JUST IN CASE YOU SCREW UP WE GOT THIS LINE UP. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE NOW. SO IF BOTH OF YOU WANT TO STEP HERE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND, JUST INTERRUPT FOR JUST A MOMENT HERE IF THEY'RE FRIENDS OR FAMILY HERE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ONCE. SO GET IN A GOOD POSITION TO TAKE A PICTURE AND DON'T BE SHY. WE'RE NOT AT ALL WE DON'T STAND ON CEREMONY.  SO IF YOU GET CLOSE COME ON OUT AND DON'T DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO NO COME ON UP. THERE YOU GO. HEY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME.  DON'T WORRY ABOUT HIM. I'M JUST A NOISE READER OVER HERE TODAY.  ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY UP HERE WHO WANTS TO GET HERE TO TAKE A PICTURE?  ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO SAY YOU SAY I AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME BUT ACTUALLY SAY YOUR NAME NOT SAY STATE NAME IF THAT MAKES SENSE.  I I, I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES ABLE TO DISCHARGE THE DUTIES AS A POLICE OFFICER POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CY OF BLOOMINGTON THE CITY OF MINNESOTA MINNESOTA TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT LONGEVITY AND ABILITY CONGRATULATIONS AND  YOU GOT THAT STATEMENT .  THANK YOU.  GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU.  CONGRATULATIONS. WELCOME. THIS IS A GRADUATION PHOTO.  ALL RIGHT. SO FOR THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS THERE'S A RECEPTION UPSTAIRS SO I'LL LET NICK AND RYAN TAKE YOU UP THERE TO THAT AND IF I COULD JUST SAY CHIEF VERY QUICK TO OUR NEW OFFICERS BUT ALSO TO TO HALEY AND TO DANIELLE, WELCOME. CONGRATULATIONS WELCOME ABOARD. WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU A GOOD ROUND OF APPLAUSE. WE SHOULD GIVE EVERYONE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. WELL, TO YOU AND TO OUR OFFICERS AND I SAY THIS TO ALL OF OUR NEW EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THIS GROUP WILL COME AND GO. THEY OR MAY NOT RECOGNIZE US WHEN WE'RE OUT AT CUB OUT ON THE STREETS THEY KNOW YOU WHEN THEY SEE YOU AND THEY WORK WITH YOU EVERY DAY. YOU'RE THE FACE OF BLOOMINGTON BASICALLY SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY BUT.  IT ALSO COMES IT'S A GREAT PRIVILEGE PRIVILEGE AND APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE AND YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOU REPRESENTING BLOOMINGTON AND SERVING OUR RESIDENTS IN THE BEST WAY THAT YOU CAN FOR AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN. SO WELCOME ABOARD. GLAD TO HAVE YOU.  ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT I'M GOING TO GO TO IS OUR EXPLORERS AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THAT.  I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL GOT I WANT TO STAND BETWEEN YOU ON COFFEE AND CAKE OVER HERE.  ALL RIGHT SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP OFFICER ANDERSON HERE WHO'S ONE OF OUR EXPLORER ADVISORS AND THREE OF OUR EXPLORERS.  SO OUR EXPLORER PROGRAM HAD A REALLY GOOD COMPETITION HERE OVER THE LAST MONTH AT THE EXPLORER CONFERENCE AND WE WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXPLORER PROGRAM IS FOR KIDS I SAY KIDS BECAUSE I'M OLD BUT 14 TO 20 YEARS OF OLD YEARS OLD WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THIS STARTED BACK HERE IN 1972 AND THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO A LOT OF HANDS ON A COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS.  THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM YOU WANT TO GO TO NEXT SLIDE AT THE LAST ASSOCIATION COMPETITION YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY DID VERY THEY PLACED FIRST IN TRAFFIC STOP SECOND IN SEARCH AND ARREST AND STREET DECISIONS SECOND IN AN UNKNOWN TROUBLE WHATEVER THAT ONE IS ON AND YOU GUYS MAY HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AND THIRD AND FIRST AID WHICH IS YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN OUR EXPLORER POST THIS YEAR HAS GROWN I THINK WE'RE AT 22 SO MEMBERS AND PARKS DIRECTOR AND HER SON IS ALSO ONE OF OUR EXPLORERS AND YEAH HE SHE IS UP THERE TAKING PICTURES OF THEM EMBARRASSING THEM SO SO OFFICER ANDERSON, YOU WANT TO SAY COUPLE OF WORDS ABOUT THE EXPLORER PROGRAM? HE WAS A FORMER EXPLORER TOO. GOOD EVENING, OFFICER AND WELCOME MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BE HERE AS CHIEF SAID YOU KNOW I WAS A FORMER EXPLORER, GREW UP IN BLOOMINGTON AND EXPLORERS FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW THE LEAD ADVISOR FOR US YEAR DOING THAT I'VE BEEN AN ADVISOR FOR THE LAST IT'S ME MY FOURTH YEAR AS WELL SO I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THESE GUYS GROW.  IT'S REALLY AWESOME FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND BE RECOGNIZED BY YOU GUYS.  DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD THAT BEFORE SO I APPRECIATE IT. UNKNOWN TROUBLE IS BASICALLY JUST GOING INTO LIKE A911 HANG UP YOU KNOW THEY SEND YOU TO AN ADDRESS AND IT BE YOU KNOW SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY DIALED 911 OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF ASSAULT THEN YOU GUYS ACTUALLY DO SCENARIO YEAH SO YEAH OKAY OKAY WELL WELL IT WAS LIKE A PROPERTY DAMAGE, RIGHT? YEAH IT WAS SOMEONE JUST IN THE SHED. OKAY. AND YOU GUYS GOT DISPATCHED DON'T ADDRESS AND YEAH WHEN THEY GOT THERE THEY FOUND OUT THERE WAS A DAMAGE THAT WAS TAKING PLACE AND SO I THINK THEY SCORED CLOSE TO PERFECT IN THAT SCENARIO. SO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXPLORER PROGRAM I KNOW IT WAS UP THERE BUT I'LL JUST SAY IT'S EIGHT OF US POLICE OFFICERS WE MEET EVERY THURSDAY AND WE TEACH THE YOUTH BASICALLY A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND THE SKILLS THAT WE LEARN AND WE TEACH THAT THEM AND THEN WE GO TO DULUTH FOR THIS CONFERENCE AND THEN WE GO DOWN TO ROCHESTER THE END OF APRIL FOR THE BIG STATE CONFERENCE.  WE COMPETE AGAINST DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS.  OH, VERY GOOD. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON DOING SUCH A FINE JOB IN THE COMPETITION. I KNOW THAT IT'S A BIT STRESSFUL. I KNOW AND ESPECIALLY YOU'RE COMPETING IN SOMETHINGHAT YOU'VE BEEN TRAINED TO DO THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY COMPETITION BUT YOU PUT THOSE SKILLS TO TO USE AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE FOR ALL THAT THANK YOU OFFICER FOR FOR LEADING THEM THROUGH AND CHIEF FOR SUPPORTING THIS AND I KNOW THE EXPLORER PROGRAM IS IS BURSTING AT THE SEAMS NOW AS IT IN THE PAST SO APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'VE SHOWN WITH THAT SO THANK YOU ALL. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU.  I, I AND I JAMEY JUST REMINDED ME WE CAN'T LET YOU GET AWAY WITHOUT INTRODUCING YOURSELVES. I'M I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO CALL THEM BACK UP HERE TO THAT I FORGOT ABOUT THA I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO READ ALL THAT STUFF ON THERE OR YOU COULD JUST SAY WHERE YOU GO TO AND WHO YOU ARE.  HI, I'M KYRA FINO. I AM A FIRST YEAR COLLEGE STUDENT AT UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN EAU CLAIRE NOW THIS IS MY GOING TO BE MY SECOND YEAR AND EXPLORERS IT'S BEEN A REALLY NICE, GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM OTHER OFFICERS FROM BLOOMINGTON AND IT'S JUST IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU AND WELCOME.  HELLO, MY IS CESAR EUGENE GARCIA. I GREW UP HERE IN FOR MOST OF MY LIFE.  I'M GOING FOR A DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OVER AT HENNEPIN TECHNICAL COLLEGE HOPING THAT MY EXPERIENCE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON EXPLORES IS GOING TO HELP ME GET A POSITION HERE IN BLOOMINGTON EVENTUALLY AND THEN I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY CHIEF GEORGE THANK YOU THANKS FOR BEING HERE.  I'M NICHOLAS KURTZ. I AM CURRENTLY A JUNIOR AT MANKATO UNIVERSITY. MY MAJOR IS LAW ENFORCEMENT SO I HOPE TO BE A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND FUTURE I'M CURRENTLY CAPTAIN OF THE POST AND ALL OF OUR ALL OF OUR ADVISORS AND THE PEOPLE IN IT'S I MEAN I HAVE SUCH A GOOD TIME WITH EVERY EVERYONE SO THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THE BS LOOK GOOD ON YOU. WELL DONE. SO CONGRATULATIONS .  AND ONE FINAL THING WHILE WE'RE TALKING POLICE ACCOLADES I KNOW THERE WAS A MAKE A WISH EVENT OVER AT THE MALL OF AMERICA AND I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY DETAILS BUT I KNOW THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH IT OVER THE PAST WEEKEND AND SO THANK YOU TO WHOEVER IF ANYONE HERE PARTICIPATED, RAISE YOUR HAND AND THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. IF NOT PASS THE THANKS ON TO THE MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT DID BECAUSE THAT'S A GREAT IT'S A GREAT WAY TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THAT AS WELL. THANKS.  ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE LAST ONE YOU GOT ME FOR HERE TODAY.  WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY BRAIN HEALTH SERVICES PROGRAM.  SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS UP. THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THIS AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS A YEAR AGO, IF YOU HAD TOLD ME WE'D BE WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, I WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED IT. SO THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT ADDITION HERE SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS JUST A PICTURE FROM THE PRESS CONFERENCE WHEN WE STARTED THIS A YEAR AGO AND THE PROGRAM IS SET UP TO WHERE WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CRISIS IMMEDIATE IN-HOME THERAPY BECAUSE ONE OF THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE SEEN WE HAVE IN BETTER SOCIAL WORKERS HERE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT OUR SOCIAL WORKERS WERE HABITUALLY TELLING US THAT PEOPLE NEEDED THERAPY AND THE GET THERAPY WAS 8 TO 10 WEEKS OUT AND THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD INSURANCE. SO IF WE COULD THAT GAP AND GET THEM IMMEDIATE IN-HOME THERAPY THERAPY HERE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SOME OTHER LOCATION AND EVEN TELEHEALTH WE FELT THAT WE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  SO THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM WERE OBVIOUSLY TO DECREASE INDIVIDUALS IN CRISIS MUST WAIT TO RECEIVE SERVICES AND ALSO DECREASE OUR OFFICER RESPONSE TO NONVIOLENT HEALTH CAUSE AND TO ELIMINATE THE COST BARRIER FOR IN-HOME THERAPY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDED THIS SERVICE TO EVERYONE FOR FREE THE INITIAL 8 TO 10 WEEKS BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE THE LESS WE HAVE TO GO OUT TO SEE SOMEONE IN THE STEPS WE CAN TAKE TO GET PEOPLE HELP IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO. TO THIS DATE WE ARE THE ONLY POLICE DEPARTMENT I CAN FIND IN THE COUNTRY THAT'S EVER TRIED TO DO THIS.  MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING THE CALL RESPONDER MODEL WHERE WE SEND A POLICE OFFICER OUT WITH A SOCIAL WORKER AND THAT SHOWN SOME SUCCESS IN TERMS OF REDUCING CALLS TO PATROL.  BUT IT HAS NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE SHOWN THE SUCCESS THAT GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR PROGRAM. SO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS JANET AND LUCAS AND THEY TWO CONTRACTED THERAPISTS. LUCAS IS ACTUALLY HERE ON A FULL TIME BASIS AND JANET IS HERE ON A PART TIME BASIS.  NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKING IN PROGRAM NOW. SO WE HAVE OUR CONTRACTED THERAPISTS AND THEN WE HAVE OUR INTERNS OUR INTERNS ARE HERE GETTING THEIR CLINICAL HOURS SO THEY CAN GET THEIR DEGREE. NEXT SLIDE. SO WHAT HAVE WE SEEN SINCE JANUARY? AGAIN, WE'RE KIND FLYING THIS PLANE AND THEY'RE BUILDING US PLANES. WE'RE FLYING IT.  39 REFERRALS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT.  OF THOSE 17 CLIENTS HAVE CHOSEN TO PROCEED WITH THERAPY ,OVER 130 SESSIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.  17 CLIENTS BY THE AGE RANGES FROM 8 TO 90 YEARS OLD. ALL THE CLIENTS RESIDE IN BLOOMINGTON AND THE THERAPY WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO PEOPLE IS AT THEIR HOME THEIR OFFICE AND A COUPLE ARE USING TELEHEALTH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  WE'VE BEEN OPERATING WITH MINIMAL BUDGET. WE STARTED THIS WE USED SOME OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADDICTION ISSUES AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY MONEY START THIS UP RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SEE WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE FULL TIME THERAPIST, ONE PART TIME THERAPIST, THREE INTERNS AND THEN LATER IN THE BUDGET PRESENTATION THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ASK TO CONTINUE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND I THINK IT'S BEEN REALLY EFFECTIVE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  ALL RIGHT. SO THE GOALS ARE TO REDUCE DANIEL MENTAL HEALTH CAUSE THEY WAIT REFERRAL PROCESS TO REDUCE BARRIERS AND INCREASE IN EFFICIENCY AND OBVIOUSLY OUR PARTNERSHIP PUBLIC HEALTH I CAN'T SPEAK ENOUGH ABOUT HOW THAT'S REALLY BENEFITED US AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OF PARTNERING WITH PUBLIC HEALTH I MEAN IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS IN THE CITY THAT WE LIKE TO DO AND I KNOW WE'RE CRUSHED ON TIME.  BUT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.  WE'VE RECEIVED A FEW NOMINATIONS FOR AWARDS FOR THIS PROGRAM ALREADY AND WE'VE JUST GOT AND STARTED I THINK MOVING FORWARD THIS WILL BE THE MODEL FOR AGENCIES AND I MEANT WHEN I SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE CORE RESPONDER MODEL IS EVEN THOUGH PATROL COPS MIGHT NOT BE GETTING THOSE CALLS THERE'S THE CALL RESPONDERS ARE STILL GETTING THE CALLS BUT WE'VE SEEN AS WHEN WE'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE THAT THERAPY THEY'RE NOT CALLING PERIOD SO IT'S NOT JUST SENDING OUT THE CALL RESPONDERS DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THE PEOPLE ARE NOT THEY'RE NOT CALLING 911 PERIOD BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. AND I END ON THIS THIS PROGRAM IS NOT A CURE ALL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO ACCEPT TREATMENT BUT THOSE WHO ARE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SEE SOME POSITIVE RESULTS AND I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO SEE THIS MANY PEOPLE IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF COUNSEL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO . COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THANK YOU CHIEF THIS IS AMAZING AND APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON IT.  FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT TYPES OF THERAPY AVAILABLE IS IT YOU KNOW ACROSS THE BOARD DEPRESSION, BIPOLAR, SCHIZOPHRENIA, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, OTHER THINGS CAN YOU GIVE US SORT OF SOME PARAMETERS ON WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT COME TO THIS PROGRAM FOR? SO RIGHT NOW THEY CAN HANDLE ALMOST ANYTHING, RIGHT? SO IF SOMEONE IS SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION AND CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY ISSUES THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FAMILIES ALSO WHO MAY HAVE OTHER ISSUES THAT REQUIRE FAMILY THERAPY. ARE THEY ABLE TO DO GROUP THERAPY WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO START DOING WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM OPIOID ADDICTION SO THEY ARE FULLY SERVICE THERAPISTS. THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE A GAMUT OF SERVICE.  THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ISSUE PSYCHOTROPIC MEDICATIONS PER SE BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT THERAPY SERVICE.  AND THEN ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP ARE HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH THE EMBEDDED SOCIAL WORKERS WE HAVE? WOULD THE EMBEDDED SOCIAL WORKERS REFER PEOPLE THIS IF IT MAKES SENSE OR OUT OF OUT OF THAT DOES THAT RELATIONSHIP WORK IN ADDITION TO THE POLICE OFFICERS? YES. SO THE EMBEDDED WORKERS DO IS ONE OF THE AVENUES THAT OUR THERAPISTS DO REFERRALS TO. I CALL OUR EMBEDDED SOCIAL WORKERS THEY'RE LIKE GENERAL CONTRACTORS. RIGHT. THEIR JOB IS TO FIND PEOPLE THE THEY NEED AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES AND WE DO GET REFERRALS THROUGH OUR SOCIAL WORKERS FOR THE SERVICES OF THE THERAPIST AND WE ALSO GET REFERRALS FROM BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  THEY ALSO REFER STUDENTS AND FAMILIES TO THE PROGRAM TO NOT STARTING TO GET OUT THERE. WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A PICKUP IN REFERRALS.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR..  THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THIS. THIS IS REALLY, REALLY AND I AGREE WITH YOU IT WOULD BE GREAT IF EVERY SINGLE CITY AND COUNTY TOOK THIS ON BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES.  I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE THERAPIST THEMSELVES AND I GUESS HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS CAN THEY SUPPORT YOU KNOW, PER THERAPIST AND IF WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS LATER WHEN WE GET BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THAT'S FINE. AND THEN HOW MANY SESSIONS THE FOLKS GET IN THE PROGRAM WITH A THERAPIST? YEAH.  SO THEY CAN EACH SUPPORT ABOUT 15 AT A TIME AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON WITH 8 TO 10 SESSIONS. SO WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO DO NOW IS ONE OF THE GAPS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WITH THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IS ONCE WE START DOING INTAKES WE'RE GOING TO START REACHING OUT TO THE CARE PROVIDERS RIGHT AWAY TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT SOFT HANDOFF 8 TO 10 WEEKS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF YOU NEEDED SERVICES TODAY AND YOU WENT TO PARK NICOLLET OR HEALTHPARTNERS OR ALLINA, IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU 8 TO 10 WEEKS TO GET SERVICE. SO WHEN WE GET THE PEOPLE IN THE DOOR NOW WE'RE GOING TO START TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION TO MAKE THIS OFF HANDOFF. RIGHT. OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFICATION SO YOUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SERVICES IMMEDIATELY AND BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THAT AND THE LONGER CARE PROGRAM THEY HAVE WITH THOSE PROVIDERS. YES.  YEAH. THIS IS NOT A LONG TERM LIST. THAT'S WHY I CALL IT CRISIS. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. COUNCIL VERY GOOD. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SUCCESS OF THE FIRST YEAR OF THIS PROGRAM. I KNOW WHEN YOU ROLLED IT OUT WE WERE ALL EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT WAS GOING TO WORK AND AS YOU SAID YOU'VE KIND OF BEEN BUILDING THE PLAN AS YOU'RE FLYING IT AND CLEARLY IT'S BEEN WORKING SO WE CRASHED YET WORK GOOD WORK SO WELL DONE AND AND CONTINUE THIS SO THIS IS THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB WITH IT SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THANKS. THANKS.  I COUNSEL NEXT ON OUR AGENDA ARE TWO PROCLAMATIONS BUT BEFORE WE GET THERE I'M GOING PULL OUT A BIT OF MAYORAL PREROGATIVE HERE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S GOING TO LOSE YOUR MIND BECAUSE THEY'VE GONE OFF AGENDA SCRIPT HERE. BUT I DID WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY AND A LOT OF FOLKS WATCHING.  WE RECEIVED SOME VERY SAD NEWS LAST WEEK THAT FORMER MAYOR CORAL WHO PASSED AWAY AND CORAL SERVED AS MAYOR OF BLOOMINGTON IN THE MID-TO-LATE NINETIES AND IN ADDITION TO HER JUST REMARKABLE LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON.  SHE HAD A REMARKABLE STRING OF LEADERSHIP AS A AS A WOMAN MAYOR IN THE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AS SHE'S RECOGNIZED AS IS JUST A A THOUGHTFUL, CARING LEADER WHO GOT A LOT OF STUFF DONE AND SHE DID A LOT OF VERY GOOD WORK WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND SHE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED AND WANT EXTEND OUR CONDOLENCES AS A CITY TO BOTH TO JOHN AND THE ENTIRE WHOLE FAMILY AND I OUR WE ASKED OUR COMMUNICATIONS STAFF TO PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER AS QUICKLY AS THEY COULD AND THEY DID OVER THE WEEKEND AND SO WE'D LIKE TO PLAY THAT NOW JUST AS A BIT OF A TRIBUTE TO CHORAL JUST THIS WAS A SCENE IN JANUARY 95 WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER HALL BECAME MAYOR COOL I CHORAL WHO DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAD SPENT THOSE YEARS OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN THE CITY ON THOSE ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I KNEW CITY WELL. I KNEW IT WAS MY TIME TO SERVE AS MAYOR.  I FELT READY AND PREPARED WHO WAS A VERY VISIBLE OFFICIAL YOU OFTEN SAW HER AT THE CITY'S ANNUAL RIVER RENDEZVOUS EVENT VARIOUS COMMUNITY AWARD CEREMONIES, GRAND OPENINGS AND VISITING WITH CITIZENS FOREIGN LANDS POOLS AS SHE RELINQUISHED HER FULL TIME JOB IN ORDER TO COMPLETE DEVOTED HER TIME TO BE A GOOD PUBLIC SERVANT. GOOD MORNING.  WELCOME TO THE MAYOR'S MARCH FOR MAMMOGRAMS. I THINK WHAT LEARNED IN SERVING AS MAYOR ON THE COUNCIL IT'S VERY RARE THAT YOU HAVE A BEGINNING AND THEN ENDING IN GOVERNMENT AND CITY LIFE. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MAYOR CHORAL HALL THE FIRST AND ONLY WOMAN TO SERVE AS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO I REPRESENTED PUBLIC AND TRYING TO LIMIT ACCESS TO TOBACCO TO YOUTH EVERYONE SAYS THIS BUT IT TRULY COMES FROM THE DEPTH FOR ME IS IT REALLY HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE IN BLOOMINGTON. IT IS AN EXPERIENCE THAT TOO FEW PEOPLE TO SERVE AS MAYOR AND IT REALLY HOLDS A VERY, VERY SPECIAL PLACE IN MY LIFE AND I JUST FEEL VERY HONORED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT .  WE WILL MISS CAROL CERTAINLY EVEN AFTER SHE RETIRED AND KIND OF SLIPPED INTO THE STEPPED INTO THE BACKGROUND A BIT. SHE I KNOW SHE STILL HAD A LOT OF INFLUENCE. SHE WAS A GREAT I KNOW TO ME AND TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND ALWAYS WAS THERE TO OFFER SOME ADVICE.  SO AGAIN, OUR OUR SYMPATHIES TO JOHN THE REST OF THE FAMILY AND I KNOW THAT OFFICIAL DETAILS ABOUT A MEMORIAL SERVICE ARE COMING OUT I BELIEVE IT'S IN MID-NOVEMBER AT SOME POINT BUT BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR AN OFFICIAL OBITUARY SO BUT CAROL WAS A POWERHOUSE. SHE WAS SOMETHING ELSE. SO WHAT SHE'S GOING TO BE MISSED THANKS TO OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER ON SHORT NOTICE AND THAT'S VERY NICE VERY NICE WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS AND I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM  FOR  AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ONE REGARDING VETERANS DAY NOVEMBER 11TH, 2024 AND I'D LIKE TO CALL UP DEBORAH BANGLE. DEBORAH IS A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT, A 20 YEAR NAVY VETERAN. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU CAN COME ON RIGHT AROUND HERE WITH ME AND I'M GOING TO READ PROCLAMATION AND THEN TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO DEBORAH . PROCLAMATION FOR VETERANS DAY NOVEMBER 11TH, 2024.  WHEREAS THE COURAGE, DEDICATION AND SACRIFICE OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SERVED IN OUR ARMED FORCES HAVE SAFEGUARDED THE FREEDOMS AND PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH OUR NATION STANDS. AND WHEREAS OUR VETERANS HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE CALL TO SERVE BUT HAVE ALSO SHOWN EXTRAORDINARY RESILIENCE LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING OF OUR NATION. AND. WHEREAS, IT IS OUR COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND PROVIDE UNWAVERING SUPPORT TO THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED ENSURING THEY RECEIVE THE RECOGNITION CARE AND ASSISTANCE THEY DESERVE. AND. WHEREAS, THE SERVICE OF OUR VETERANS TO INSPIRE AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY REMINDING US OF THE IMPORTANCE OF UNITY, COMPASSION AND RESPECT AND. WHEREAS, BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE EXTEND A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 50 5055 550 FOR THEIR UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF OUR VETERANS APPRECIATION CELEBRATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND THIS YEAR'S GENEROUS THOUSAND DOLLARS DONATION HAS ONCE AGAIN ENSURED THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HONOR OUR VETERANS IN A MEANINGFUL AND MEMORABLE WAY THEIR DEDICATION TO OUR VETERANS.  THE COMMUNITY IS DEEPLY APPRECIATED AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR ONGOING PARTNERSHIP NOW THEREFORE I'M HERE TO BLESS YOU DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMR 2024 AS VETERANS DAY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND TO HONOR OUR SERVICE THE CITY WILL DISPLAY THE VETERANS PHOTO WHILE THE CIVIC PLAZA FROM OCTOBER NINTH THROUGH NOVEMBER 15TH WHICH CAN ALSO BE VIEWED VIRTUALL BLM DOT AIRMEN FORWARD SLASH VETERANS THE CITY WILL HOST A VETERAN'S APPRECIATION CELEBRATION ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 8TH AT THE MINNESOTA MASONIC HERITAGE CENTER AND ADDITIONALLY THE PRISONER OF WAR MISSING IN ACTION P.O.W. MAY FLAG WILL BE FLOWN AT CIVIC PLAZA AND BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC WORKS FROM NOVEMBER 8TH TO THE 15TH IN TRIBUTE TO THOSE WHO REMAIN UNACCOUNTED.  I ENCOURAGE ALL BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS TO HONOR AND REMEMBER OUR VETERANS BY VIEWING THE PHOTO WHILE REFLECTING ON THEIR SACRIFICES AND EXPRESSING OUR PROFOUND GRATITUDE FOR THEIR SERVICE. SIGNED THIS 20TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2020 FOR THE VETERANS DAY OBVIOUSLY AN ANNUAL REMEMBRANCE DAY IN THE UNITED STATES AND CERTAINLY HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT EVERY YEAR IT JUST TAKES ON I THINK A GREATER AND GREATER MEANING CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF WE CONTINUE TO NO LONGER HAVE WITH US FROM WORLD ONE OBVIOUSLY BUT WORLD WAR TWO. AND NOW AS WE HEAD INTO KOREAN VETERANS AND VIETNAM VETERANS AND NOW THE MOST RECENT VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVED CONFLICTS ACROSS THE GLOBE AND WHO HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR US AND IT REALLY DOES TAKE ON QUITE THE QUITE THE SIGNIFICANCE. AND DEBORAH , I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE WITH THIS EVENING.  I APPRECIATE THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE COLORS THAT YOU'RE WEARING AND I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU AND LET YOU SAY A FEW WORDS YOU ALL RIGHT? GOOD EVENING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE HAVE GATHERED HERE TODAY. I WANT TO EXTEND MY HEARTFELT THANKS TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THIS INCREDIBLE HONOR. WHEN MCROBBIE REACHED OUT TO ME EXPRESSING HER DESIRE INCLUDE A FEMALE VETERAN IN HIS PROCLAMATION I WAS TRULY ABACK.  IT IS WITH DEEP PRIDE THAT I STAND BEFORE YOU ACCEPTING THIS RECOGNITION ON BEHALF OF ALL THE BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN WHO HAVE SERVED THIS COUNTRY AT THE AGE OF 18. I MYSELF LIKE MANY UNSURE OF WHAT MY FUTURE WOULD HOLD.  I WAS LIVING WITH MY AUNT AND UNCLE AND MY THREE COUSINS AT THE TIME AND KNEW I NEEDED A NEW DIRECTION WITH THE FULL SUPPORT OF MY FAMILY I MADE A DECISION TO ENLIST IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY.  LOOKING BACK IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS OF MY LIFE.  I BEGAN MY NAVY JOURNEY AT BOOT CAMP IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA . AFTER GRADUATING I WAS ASSIGNED TO A TASK RATHER IN VA 42 AND HE HAS OCEANA AND VIRGINIA BEACH WHERE WORKED ON THE 86 INTRUDER AIRCRAFT. AT THAT TIME I HADN'T CHOSEN A SPECIFIC JOB BUT I EVENTUALLY FOUND MYSELF AS A PLANE CAPTAIN.  IT WAS AN EXCITING BUT DAUNTING RESPONSIBILITY ENSURING.  OUR AIRCRAFT WERE FULLY PREPARED FOR FLIGHT. FROM THERE I DECIDED TO BECOME AN AVIATION ELECTRICIAN'S MATE WHICH CAME WITH GREATER RESPONSIBILITIES.  I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ABOARD USS JOHN F KENNEDY AND THE USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT DURING A PERIOD WHEN INTEGRATING WOMEN INTO THESE ROLES WASN'T PROCESS.  MY NEXT CHAPTER BROUGHT ME PATROL SQUADRON VPI 49 AT NASA JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA WHERE I WORKED ON THE P-3 ORION. WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS MASSIVE AIRCRAFT WHICH WAS 160 FEET,  116 FEET LONG, 33 FEET TALL WITH A WINGSPAN OF ALMOST 100 FEET. I REMEMBER THINKING WHAT HAVE I GOT INTO?  BUT AS I'VE LEARNED TIME AND AGAIN NO CHALLENGES TOO GREAT WHEN YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND GROW OVER TIME.  I GREW TO LOVE THE WORK AND TOOK PRIDE IN SUPPORTING THE ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE AND MARITIME SURVEILLANCE MISSIONS THAT TOOK US ON DEPLOYMENTS TO PLACES LIKE ICELAND, SPAIN, SICILY AND, PUERTO RICO. I KNOW THEY'RE DIFFICULT PLACES BUT IT WAS GREAT AS A NAVY AS A NAVY CONTINUE TO EVOLVE SO I.  WHEN MY SQUADRON DECOMMISSIONED I TRANSFERRED TO VPI 30 THE P-3 TRAINING SQUADRON WRE  TOOK ON THE ROLE SHIFT SUPERVISOR A POSITION STILL LARGELY BY MEN. AT THE TIME I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSIGNING DAILY TO SAILORS AND ENSURING EVERY TASK WAS COMPLETED WITH THE HIGHEST. I OUR EXCUSE ME IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT ONE MAN COULD LEAD JUST AS WELL AS OUR MALE COUNTERPARTS AND EMBRACE THAT CHALLENGE. FOR MY FINAL TOUR I CHOSE TO JOIN TWO IN ROTA, SPAIN WHERE I ONCE AGAIN FOUND MYSELF MYSELF IN A SUPERVISORY ROLE LEADING AROUND 20 SAILORS IN THE ELECTRICAL.  IT WAS A FULFILLING WAY TO CAP OFF MY 20 YEARS OF SERVICE CONTINUING TO MENTOR AND LEAD THE NEXT GENERATION OF SAILORS. I TAKE IMMENSE PRIDE IN MY DECISION TO ENLIST IN THE NAVY AND THE WORK I ACCOMPLISHED OVER THOSE TWO DECADES. IT WASN'T ALWAYS EASY BUT THE JOURNEY WAS WORTH EVERY CHALLENGE. TODAY I STAND HERE NOT ONLY AS A NAVY VETERAN BUT AS A TESTAMENT TO POWER AND PERSEVERANCE, PURPOSE AND SERVICE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS INCREDIBLE HONOR. I ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF ALL VETERANS THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE ME, THOSE WHO SERVE TODAY AND THOSE WHO WILL SERVE IN THE FUTURE. LET US ALWAYS REMEMBER THEIR SACRIFICES AND MAY WE CONTINUE TO HONOR THE LEGACY OF SERVICE BINDS US TOGETHER. THANK YOU  VERY MUCH. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET AN OFFICIAL PICTURE HERE.  IT IS SO.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU.  OH OH. WE'RE GOING TO START WE'RE GOING TO DO  THREE.  GOT IT. CONGRATULATIONS.  THANK YOU FOR SAVING .  A SECOND PROCLAMATION TONIGHT IS FOR NATIVE AMERICAN MONTH WHICH IS NOVEMBER 2024 WHICH WERE JUST A COUPLE DAYS AWAY FROM DESPITE THE 80 DEGREE WEATHER. AND I WOULD LIKE TO UP CAROL MCDONALD OR OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSIONER TO STAND WITH ME HERE.  SHE CAN HAVE SOME COMMENTS AS I FINISH UP HERE. GOOD AND WELCOME. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT . I'VE CONFLICTED YOU PROCLAMATION FOR NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH NOVEMBER 2024 WHEREAS DURING NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH WE CELEBRATE THE RICH TAPESTRY OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND HONOR THEIR VIBRANT AND DIVERSE CULTURES WHICH WE RECOGNIZE AS INEXTRICABLY INTO THE HISTORY AND PRESENT TIMES OF THIS COUNTRY. AND WHEREAS THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESIDED ON THIS LAND PRIOR TO THE ARRIVAL OF THE EUROPEANS EXPERIENCED INJUSTICES ATTEMPTING TO SUPPRESS AND ERADICATE KNOWLEDGE, PRACTICE AND OBSERVANCES OF THEIR OWN CULTURAL AND SPIRITUAL HERITAGE. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS BUILT ON LANDS ONCE BY NATIVE AMERICANS AS WHERE THE WATER TOUCHES THE BLUFFS AND WHERE SACRED BURIAL MOUNDS OF THE ONES WHO CAME BEFORE US REMAIN.  AND. WHEREAS, NATIVE AMERICANS HAVE A LONG AND RICH HISTORY AND PRESENCE IN BLOOMINGTON INCLUDING DAKOTA, OJIBWE AND IOWA.  AND WE RECOGNIZE THE 11 TRIBAL NATIONS THAT CALL MINNESOTA HOME.  AND. WHEREAS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE AND CONTINUE TO MAKE ESSENTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO LAW AND JUSTICE ARTS, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND MANY OTHER ENDEAVORS. AND. WHEREAS, THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL RESOLVES TO SUPPORT THEIR LEGACY AND PRESERVE THEIR SACRED HERITAGE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. AND. WHEREAS, THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL EQUITY AND INCLUSION AS ONE OF ITS STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND STRIVES MAKE CONTINUED AND MEANINGFUL PROGRESS TOWARDS EQUITY INCLUSION FOR NATIVE AMERICANS . AND. WHEREAS, THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL RECOMMITTED TO SUPPORTING NATIVE AMERICANS AND WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH THEIR LEADERS TO SECURE A STRONGER AND SAFER COMMUNITIES. AND. WHEREAS, DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER WE COMMEMORATE THE RICH AND DIVERSE CULTURE OF NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND RECOGNIZE THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS IN STRENGTHENING THE DIVERSITY OUR SOCIETY.  NOW THEREFORE I AM HERE TO SAY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH SIGNED THIS 20TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2024. SO CAROL, YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO REPRESENT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU.  OKAY, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE THE TALK WITH YOUR PAY UNPAID TO US TO TANYA AND WHEN SHE COPY CAROL MACDONALD THE MONKEY UP HERE THELMA COTA OKAY MUTARE ONE KEY EVENT TO ON WHICH ARE KEY. YUP KING DAY NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH EPA Q NO ONE WERE YOU ONLY KING DAY. L.T. WE TASSA WE EXCAVATE. WE TEST. WHAT TO US ARE WE TO WHERE TO PUTUMAYO AND TRANSLATION GOOD DAY. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. MY NAME IS CAROL MCDONALD.  I AM DAKOTA. I AM IN . I ACCEPT THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF ALL NATIVE PEOPLES. THANK YOU.  THANK YOU ALL.  NO ONE'S ELSEWHERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. THAT'S GREAT. SO NOW YOU GO.  THANK YOU .  THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING AND BEING PART OF OUR PROCLAMATION.  THANKS FOR YOUR YOUR WORDS HERE IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THANKS SO MUCH .  NEXT SENATOR AGENDA COUNCIL.  AS WE DESCRIBED WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA, WE'RE MOVING UP IN 4.1. IT'S A TIMED ITEM SO WE ARE GOING TO GO TO 4.1. THIS IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE SALE OF TAXABLE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2024 BE OUR ECONOMY SHOULDER IS HERE TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH US THIS IS JULIE ADDINGTON ONLINE AND ELIZABETH BERGMAN ARE FROM BAKER TILLY,  OUR MUNICIPAL ADVISOR. THEY HAVE WORKED A LOT OF TO WORK THROUGH ALL THE SALES TAX PIECES AND THIS IS OUR FOR SALES TAX BOND. SO THEY'RE HERE WITH US.  SO BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE FOR OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THE THREE TRIPLE A'S AND WE'VE HELD THAT HONOR FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. WE ARE ONE OF 37 MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE THE TRIPLE TRIPLE-A AND AGAIN THAT'S FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.  BACK IN AUGUST WE HAD A PRESENTATION WITH BAKER TILLY AND THEY DID GO THROUGH WHEN WE HAVE A REVENUE BOND IT WOULD WHEN LOOK AT OUR INFORMATION IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS GENERAL AGGREGATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLEDGING PROPERTY TAXES FOR THIS OR THE REVENUE BONDS. SO WITH STANDARD POOR'S THEY RATED US A AND THEY GAVE US A VERY NICE OUTLOOK AND THEY LOOKED AT THE HEALTHY PART OF THE MANAGEMENT THE GOVERNMENT, THE METRO AREA AND OUR ROBUST INFORMATION. AND SO FAR WE'VE HAD FOUR MONTHS OF SALES TAX REVENUE AND EACH MONTH HAS PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN BETTER. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME CYCLES OF MONTH TO MONTH ACTIVITIES PROBABLY ONCE CHRISTMAS HITS WE MIGHT HAVE A LULL UNTIL SUMMER MONTHS BUT WE'LL SEE.  PROJECT BEFORE US IS UP FOR THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN WE WENT INTO THIS MORNING'S BOMB SALE WITH A PRELIMINARY DOCUMENTS FOR 38 OR 34,865,000 WITH THE SIX BIDS THE LOW BID BEING BAIRD. ROBERT BAIRD WE HAD SIX BIDDERS. ELIZABETH LOOKED AT THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE MARKET TODAY AND WITH THOSE SIX BIDDERS WE GENUINELY GOT MORE BIDDERS THAN MOST OTHER ONES.  A LOT OF THE OTHER ONES WERE GETTING TWO AND THREE. SO PEOPLE LIKE BLOOMINGTON OUR INTEREST COST WAS A .09 AND SO WITH THAT TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK IT LOOKED LIKE THE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN TICKING HIGHER AND WE WOULD PROBABLY BE AT THE SAME RATE THAT WE THOUGHT BACK IN SEPTEMBER ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF. SO WE CAME IN AT ABOUT 40 BASIS POINTS LESS THAN WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. SO A GOOD DAY IN THE MARKET IN THE 20 YEAR TIME FRAME WE HAVE A MIX OF PREMIUMS,  DISCOUNTS, INITIAL PREMIUMS AND DISCOUNTS ON A IN THE FIRST TEN YEARS AND DISCOUNTS IN THE LATTER TEN YEARS. SO THAT HELPED REDUCE AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE RESERVE BY ABOUT 100,000 EACH YEAR. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THE SALES TAX AS PART OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN FUND THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND 35 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TOTALLY REDUCE THE BONDS BY ABOUT ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND.  SO TIMING WE'RE SELLING THE BONDS TODAY AND WL RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS ON THE 26TH OF NOVEMBER.  AND BEFORE YOU IT'S THE NOTION ELIZABETH IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE MARKET.  THANK YOU SO MUCH. CALLS FOR QUESTIONS ON THIS VERY GOOD LIKE I SAID IT'S AN IT WAS A GOOD DAY IN THE BOND AND BOND MARKET FOR US SO CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COUNCIL TOO.  IT'S ALL OF US THAT BRINGS THAT FORWARD.  COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, I WOULD ASSUME YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. I AM AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THE NUMBER I THINK THAT WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE IT WAS 34 MILLION 865 AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE MOTION SHEET IS 34 MILLION 780 IT'S LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS DIFFERENT IN SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WENT OUT VERY GOOD BUT I'D HAPPY TO MAKE MOTION IF I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT BEFOREHAND. NOTHING MAKES YOU MORE CHUFFED TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY THAN WHEN SEE LIKE ALL LEVERS BEING ALL CYLINDERS BEING FIRED RATE. SO WE HAVE THIS GREAT ENGAGEMENT EARLIER WEEK WITH THE PARKS AND REC TEAM AND WE GET A LOT OF KUDOS TONIGHT ABOUT HOW WELL THAT WENT. I WAS AT A MEET I WAS AT A THING OVER TWO EARLIER OVER AT OAK POINT AND I HEARD WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC FOLKS WHO ARE TALKING PEOPLE.  NOW WE'RE SITTING HERE AND YOU KNOW IS THE BEST YOU CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO SALES TAX BONDS. WE GET THAT AND WE KNOCKED THAT OUT OF THE PARK AND THAT WAS JUST AFTER OUR TEAM RAN THE TABLE AND OUR EXPLORERS TEAM RAN THE TABLE AND THE VPD IS INTRODUCING A PILOT FOR BRAIN HEALTH AND I DON'T KNOW I JUST I'M FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT BEING A PART OF THIS FUN TEAM SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT AND I KNOW LORI YOU'RE ONE OF THE LEADERS ON THE TEAM SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS THAT FROM AN OUTSIDE LOOKING IN PEOPLE PEOPLE THINK WE'RE REALLY DARN GOOD. IN FACT I WAS DOING A DOORKNOCK YESTERDAY WON'T SAY WHY OR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. SOMEBODY SAID THAT THEY WERE USING OUR BLOOMINGTON HOUSING ORDINANCE AS THE BASIS FOR THEIR POLICIES AS WELL. SO EVEN IN THAT AREA WE'RE LEADING THE CHARGE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT WITH THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION AWARDING THE SALE OF TAXABLE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2024 B AND THE ORIGINAL AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF 34,000 $780,000 FIXING THEIR FORM AND SPECIFICATIONS TO RECOGNIZE OCCUPATION AND DELIVERY AND PROVIDING FOR THEIR PAYMENT. SECOND PASS ALONG THOSE SORRY 34,780,000 I KNEW I HEARD THOUSAND TWICE AND I'M LIKE I'D SAY THAT PARDON ME IF YOU DON'T DALLAS IN UNDER A SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN ARE FOR THE RESOLUTION AWARDING THE SALE OF TAXABLE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2024 BE IN THE AGREEMENT FOR AN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL OF $34,780,000 FOR COUNCIL SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU TO OUR THE WORK OF URBAN COUNCIL AND THE WORK THAT GETS DONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. IT'S APPRECIATED THANK YOU MUCH.  BACK ON TRACK COUNCIL WILL MOVE TO ITEM THREE OUR CONSENT AGENDA COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WILL HOLD 3.1 THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT DONATIONS AND I HAVE NOT HEARD OF OTHER HOLDS BUT THEY HAVE 3.2.  ALL RIGHT, 3.2.  COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, ANYBODY ELSE USUALLY THROWS SPONSOR DOWN. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 3.3 THROUGH 3.15 SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND AM 3.2 COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS QUESTIONS ON THAT YES PLEASE I JUST I'M JUST FOR THE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I COULD EXPLAIN MYSELF SO THE WHAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE TRYING TO NARROW THE NOTES TO COUNCIL THEIR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IS TO CITY PROPERTY. MR. BARRY THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THIS IS AN ANNUAL HOUSEKEEPING AND WE THIS EVERY YEAR FOR PROJECTS WHERE THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT OF CITY PROPERTY. SO YOUR THOUGHT IS HERE TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE.  MS. ECONOMY SURE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS.  AS THE CITY MANAGER EXPLAINED, THIS IS A STANDARD WITH NORMAL PAYMENT MANAGEMENT WHEN WE HAVE CITY ASSESSOR ASSESSMENTS WE CANCEL THEM OFFICIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE COUNTY BUT INTERNALLY WE MOVE MONEY OUT OF ONE CAPITAL PROJECT FUND INTO ANOTHER TO PAY FOR THEM. SO THE CITY STILL PAYS THE SAME SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AT THE SAME RATE EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IN THAT COUNCILMEMBER.  OKAY. IT IS ACCORDING TO THE PACKET THAT WE GOT IT SAYS THAT THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THAT COME FUND THE DEB SERVICE FUNDS SO THE QUESTION IS HOW ARE THOSE OF THAT DEBT SERVICE FUND FUNDED WHERE DID THIS MONEY COME FROM MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER BACK IN THE NINETIES ACCUMULATION OF INTEREST IN DEBT THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING BACK THEN BEFORE SPECIFIC IRS AND FCC RULES WE WERE ABLE TO ACCUMULATE FUNDS IN THIS ACCOUNT AND IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR VERY SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE THIS OR OTHER DEBT ACTIVITIES THAT CAN'T BE USED OR IT CAN'T BE MOVED OUT OF THERE TO UTILIZE FOR OTHER CITY FUNCTIONS. SO THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THAT FUND IS TO PAY FOR THIS CITY DEBT, THIS TYPE PIECE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER DEBT ISSUES THOSE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT BOND ISSUE AND THAT DEBT.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER NO. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE THEN MOVING ITEM 3.2 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? YES SO I JUST THIS IF YOU COULD PLEASE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CANCELATION OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS LEVIED TO LEVIED ON THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES LISTED BELOW IN THE AMOUNT OF $135,000 147 TO $0.28 SAYING MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO APPROVE THE CANCELATION OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AS STATED IN ITEM 3.2 NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND DOUBLING BACK TO ITEM 3.1 THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT DONATIONS. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER YES. SO I MAKE THE MOTION I JUST WANT TO SEND SOME THANKS OUT TO SOME ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY AS RECEIVED SEVERAL DONATIONS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I WANT TO CALL OUT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE FROM THE BLOOMINGTON OBEDIENCE CLUB.  SO WE RECEIVED AN 1800 DOLLAR DONATION FOR THE K-9 UNIT AND THEN RECEIVED SEVERAL OTHERS. WE ALSO RECEIVED A DONATION FOR THE BLOOMINGTON CENTER FOR THE ARTS IN MEMORY OF DARLA KAY MCKAYLA MAJELLA I MIGHT BE MISPRONOUNCING HER NAME AND SO I WANT TO THANK MARTHA COOLEY FOR THAT AND DAVID EKLUND AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST I WANT TO THANK THE AMERICAN LEGION POST FIVE FOR THEIR DONATION TO HELP SUPPORT THE VETERANS APPRECIATION EVENT SO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO WRITE THE APPROPRIATE THANK YOU'S AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE DONATIONS AS LISTED IN MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT DONATIONS LISTED DISCUSSION THAT COMES FROM MR. RUBIN THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER APPRECIATE  YOU SHARING THIS AND ACKNOWLEDGING SOME FOLKS I WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO AREN'T INDIVIDUALS BUT ARE GROUPS THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE OFFICERS FEDERATION IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ALONG WITH THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION EACH DONATED $500 FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES UNIT AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO THE HOLIDAY SEASON IT'S IT'S A REALLY NICE THING TO SEE THAT EVERY YEAR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS STAFF ARE PUTTING THEIR OWN RESOURCES IN TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, REALLY APPRECIATE THEM DOING IT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET RECOGNIZED FOR IT.  THANK YOU MR. FOR BRINGING ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.  WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ITEM 3.1 NO NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR CARE OF TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS. MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING AND IN 5.1 IS A STUDY ITEM PROPERTY HANDLING IS 4.2 BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID 4.1. SO SKIPPING RIGHT OVER ON MR. GRILLOT HERE ITEM 4.2 THIS IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING REGARDING THE CITY CODE AMENDMENTS FOR THE CANNABIS BUSINESS LICENSING REGULATIONS. MR. BUTLER.  GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. GOOD TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN ARE BRINGING THE CANNABIS BUSINESS ORDINANCE ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WITH YOU TONIGHT.  CLICKERS WORKING.  HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. SO A LITTLE BIT RECAP.  I DON'T HAVE MUCH FOR YOU IN TERMS OF A PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I WILL JUST GO OVER SOME BACKGROUND AND HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ORDINANCE, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN GET INTO QUESTIONS. SO IN 2023 THE MINNESOTA LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW LEGALIZING CANNABIS SALES POSSESSION AND USE AND SETS UP A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY. PORTIONS OF THE LAW ARE NOW IN RIGHT PORTIONS OF THE LAW ARE IN EFFECT NOW AND OTHERS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE AS THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS COMPLETES ITS RULEMAKING PROCESS AND BEGINS ISSUING LICENSES TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES IN 2025 STATE STATUTE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THE RIGHT TO ADOPT REASONABLE RULES REASONABLE ON THE TIME, PLACE AND MANNER OF THE OPERATION OF . CANNABIS BUSINESSES CITIES CANNOT PROHIBIT THE ESTABLISHMENT OR OPERATION OF A CANNABIS BUSINESS BUT CAN IMPLEMENT LOCAL INCLUDING ZONING DISTRICTS AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OF OPERATION BUFFER REQUIREMENTS AND LIMITING THE NUMBER OF LICENSES.  SO DURING STUDY ITEMS HELD EARLIER THIS SPRING AND SUMMER ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION ON ALL OF THOSE ISSUES I JUST MENTIONED BASED ON THAT POLICY DIRECTION, CITY STAFF PREPARED TWO CITY CODE AMENDMENTS ONE COVERING THE ZONING CODE ASPECTS WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO ON SEPTEMBER 30TH AND THEN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT COVERING THE LICENSING AND REGISTRATION STANDARDS FOR CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESSES.  THE ORDINANCE FOR AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING INCLUDES AMENDMENTS TO CITY CODE CHAPTERS WHICH COVERS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL AND CHAPTER 14 BUSINESS LICENSES AND PERMITS TEXTURE ONLY.  THIS AMENDMENT REPEALS TWO EXISTING CODE SECTIONS REGARDING MEDICAL MARIJUANA FACILITIES, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2015 AND THE HEMP PRODUCTS OR LOWER POTENCY HEMP EDIBLE PRODUCTS WHICH WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2020 TO REPLACES BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS WITH A NEW SECTION WITH CURRENT MINNESOTA STATUTES REGARDING ADULT USE CANNABIS CANNABIS AND LOWER POTENCY HEMP PRODUCTS.  THE ORDINANCE DOES INCLUDE A MINOR UNDER THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL PIECE. JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT.  THAT WAS TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF EXCLUSIVE LIQUOR STORES TO BRING THAT IN LINE WITH CURRENT STATE STATUTE AND TO LIQUOR STORES TO SELL THE LOWER POTENCY HEMP PRODUCTS IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE COVERING THE HEMP PRODUCTS. THERE WAS A PROHIBITION ON LIQUOR STORES SELLING THOSE PRODUCTS AND.  THE PIECE OF THAT THE PIECE OF THE ORDINANCE IN CHAPTER 13 THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AMENDING TONIGHT HAD A VERY SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF WHAT A LIQUOR STORE CAN SELL.  KIND OF SPELLING OUT A LIST OF THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY CAN SELL INSTEAD OF DOING THAT IN OUR AUDIENCE WE'RE JUST GOING TO REFER TO STATE WHICH DOES GET AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME.  SO OUR I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE TOPICS COVERED BY THE ORDINANCE SO THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES RETAILERS TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY OFFICE.  IT SETS REGISTRATION FEES, AUTHORIZES STAFF TO INSPECT AND CONDUCT COMPLIANCE CHECKS, ESTABLISHES IN VIOLATION OR PENALTIES AND FINES FOR VIOLATION OF BOTH ORDINANCE AND OF STATE STATUTE PROHIBITS SELF-SERVICE, SELF-SERVICE OR AUTOMATED SALES AND THE SAMPLING OF PRODUCTS THERE IS IN IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THERE'S NO LIMITATION THE NUMBER OF RETAIL LICENSES BASED ON THE DIRECTION PROVIDED BY THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.  IT SETS RETAIL OR LIMITS RETAIL HOURS I SHOULD SAY TO MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 8 A.M. TO 10 P.M. AND ON SUNDAYS 10 A.M. TO 9 P.M. WHICH IS ABOUT AS CONSISTENT WITH LIQUOR STORE HOURS AS YOU CAN GET. LIQUOR STORE HOURS ARE A LITTLE TIGHTER SUNDAYS BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE'RE AS CONSISTENT AS WE CAN BE AND THEN IT IMPLEMENTS OTHER PROVISIONS OF MINNESOTA STATUTES CHAPTER FOUR 342 AND THEN I'LL JUST QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE NOT IN THIS ORDINANCE BUT ARE BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT'S RULEMAKING PROCESS THINGS LIKE PRODUCT PACKAGING AND LABELING PRODUCTS INVENTORY TRACKING.  IT ESTABLISHES COMPLAINT PROCESS THE RULEMAKING, THE RULEMAKING STANDARDS WILL ALSO INCLUDE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR BUSINESS SECURITY ALARM SYSTEMS, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, SECURE TRANSPORTATION KINDS OF THINGS.  AND WE'LL ALSO ESTABLISH THINGS ITEMS SUCH AS ENVIRONMENTAL ORDER LIMITS, WATER AND ENERGY USE SOLID,  WASTE DISPOSAL THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS ARE ALL BEING FURTHERED THE RULEMAKING.  SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOST I THINK PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL IS THE BUFFER DISTANCES. SO I'LL SPEND A LITTLE TIME THERE POLICY DIRECTION HAS BEEN TO IMPLEMENT BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FOR SCHOOLS,  RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES AND ATTRACTIONS A PUBLIC PARK THAT ARE REGULARLY USED BY MINORS INCLUDING A PLAYGROUND OR ATHLETIC FIELD TO BE KNOWN AS PARK ATTRACTIONS FOR SHORT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A 300 FOOT BUFFER DISTANCE CONSISTENT WITH REGULATIONS FOR LIQUOR STORES WHILE THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH RECOMMENDED ADOPTING THE MAXIMUM DISTANCES UNDER THE STATE LAW. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MAXIMUM UNDER STATE LAWS 1000 FEET FOR SCHOOLS, 500 FEET FOR THE OTHER USES BASED ON ALL OF THAT INPUT ADDITIONAL COUNCIL DISCUSSION BACK IN AUGUST THE DRAFT ORDINANCE INCLUDES THE DISTANCES YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE TABLE THERE. SO ACTUALLY LET ME BACK UP TO THE EXISTING BUFFERS FOR OTHER LICENSE TYPES. SO THE PRODUCT RETAILER WHEN THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2022 INCLUDED A 500 FOOT BUFFER DISTANCE.  SEVERAL PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD HERE THE COUNCIL HAS SHOWN FOR REDUCING THAT TO 300 FEET TO BE CONSISTENT WITH LIQUOR.  THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA CHAPTER IS BEING DELETED ENTIRELY SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT STRUCK THROUGH THERE AND THEN THE ORDINANCE INCLUDES THESE NEW BUFFER DISTANCES FOR CANNABIS RETAIL EXCLUSIVE CANNABIS RETAILERS ALSO KNOWN AS THE DISPENSARY. SO 500 FEET FOR SCHOOLS, 300 FEET FOR PARK ATTRACTIONS AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES AND THEN SOMETHING THAT'S NEW THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS AS MUCH IS A SEPARATION BUFFER BETWEEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES. SO THIS BE IN ADDITION TO THOSE BUFFERS FROM THE SENSITIVE USES ALSO PUTTING IN PLACE A 300 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES WITHOUT STAFF FILTER WITHOUT A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF RETAIL LICENSES A SPACER REQUIREMENT IS ANOTHER WAY TO GET AT AVOIDING AN OVER CONCENTRATE OCEAN OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES IN ANY PARTICULAR RETAIL AREA THE CITY SO I'LL JUST REAL QUICKLY WANTED TO PULL UP THIS MAP WHICH IS HARD TO READ AT THIS SCALE BUT JUST THE COLORFUL AREAS ARE THE ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ALLOW A RETAIL.  SO THAT'S WHERE THE COLORED BLOBS YOU SEE UP THERE ALL OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE A CANNABIS BUSINESS COULD GO.  THIS MAP FOR SIMPLICITY DOES NOT SHOW ANY OF THE BUFFER CIRCLES MAP GETS VERY BUSY BUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE I THINK GETS SAID ANY CONCERN THERE MIGHT BE OF YOU KNOW,  NUMEROUS CANNABIS BUSINESSES IN ANY ONE AREA OF THE CITY. I THINK IN PARTICULAR I THINK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS 90TH AND PENN FRANCE AND OLD SHAKOPEE SOME OF THOSE YOU KNOW THE THE LYNDALE AVENUE CORRIDOR IN GENERAL ESPECIALLY WHERE WE HAVE SO KIND OF SMALLER BUILDINGS WHERE A CANNABIS BUSINESS MIGHT WANT TO OPEN JUST ENSURING THAT THOSE CORRIDORS DON'T BECOME OVERWHELMED WITH WITH CANNABIS BUSINESSES. THAT SAID 300 FEET IS NOT THAT GREAT OF A DISTANCE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK SO.  THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU ON MY PRESENTATION. I KNOW WE'RE LIMITED ON TIME TONIGHT. THIS ROUND OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS COMPLETES THE FIRST PHASE OF AN ANTICIPATED AMENDMENTS OVERALL STAFF WILL LIKELY COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO MODIFY OTHER PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE OR OTHER PARTS OF CITY CODE AS STATE REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES ARE FINALIZED.  THANK YOU, MR. BRILLIANT COUNSEL.  QUESTIONS OF MR. BULLARD COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THEN COUNCILMEMBER LONG JUST A REAL QUICK ONE MR. CLARKE, GOOD TO SEE YOU BET. ALWAYS ON REGARDING YOUR BUFFER ZONE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR YOUR EAR SUGGESTING THAT THE THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE ADOPTED THE DISTANCE THAT WE'RE SETTING UP IS NOT JUST FOR THOSE BUFFERS ,THOSE EXPLICIT LOCATIONS BUT BETWEEN EACH OTHER AS WELL. CORRECT THAT I READ THAT THAT MY INTERPRETING THAT YOU DID INTERPRET THAT CORRECT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER LIMIT NUMBER I JUST GOT A QUESTION ON THE BUFFER ZONE. HOW DOES IT WORK WITH MALLS THAT HAVE HAVE STORIES?  YEAH, SO THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION I SHOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THAT ONE A LITTLE MORE THE DON'T KNOW NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT. NO I CAN SAY I'M SORRY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I CAN SAY THAT AS WRITTEN IT'S THE DISTANCE WOULD ONLY BE MEASURED HORIZONTALLY IT WOULD NOT KIND OF TAKE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF VERTICAL SEPARATION AT A AT A LARGE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LIKE A MALL.  WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ALL OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'RE GIVEN I DON'T REMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.  DO WE HAVE A LIMITATION OR A DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR LIQUOR STORES CURRENTLY MAYOR COUNCILMAN NELSON THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY SEPARATION ORDINANCE FOR LIQUOR STORES. OKAY. AND DID WE WHEN WE HAD TOBACCO DID WE DO WE HAVE ONE FOR TOBACCO? NO, I DON'T MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PRIOR TO THE SUNSETTING OF TOBACCO THERE WEREN'T ANY BUFFER DISTANCES THEY WERE BEING AS PART OF THAT EFFORT. BUT THEN I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL INSTEAD CHOSE TO GO THE ROUTE OF SUNSETTING TOBACCO LICENSE RATHER THAN IMPLEMENT BUFFERS AT THE TIME AM I CORRECT TO UNDERSTAND THIS WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS IS A NEW THING THAT WAS INSERTED COUNCILMAN NELSON THAT IS CORRECT.  THERE WAS SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSION TO THAT AS WE WEREN'T SURE WHETHER THE COUNCIL WAS WAS GOING TO BE INCLINED TO PURSUE LICENSE LIMITS THERE IT SEEMED TO MAKE SENSE YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ADOPTING A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF LICENSES TO TO OFFER THAT ADDITIONAL SEPARATION BETWEEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES JUST TO AVOID OVERCONCENTRATION I THINK YOU COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU. CAN YOU BRING UP THE MAP AGAIN ? YEAH AND I MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES IF YOU DO WANT TO SEE IT OVERLAID WITH ANY OF THE BUFFERS.  SURE. YEAH IF YOU GET THE 300 BUFFERS IT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE JUSTY THINKING AS I'M THINKING THROUGH THIS IS THE 300 BUFFER BETWEEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES. YOU KNOW IS THERE IS THAT GOING TO NATURALLY LIMIT?  IT WOULDN'T NATURALLY LIMIT AND SO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT COMPETITION AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMPETITION AND THAT KIND OF THING.  SO THAT'S JUST YEAH WE'LL SEE. I MAY HAVE A MAP HERE OR NOT EXACTLY WHAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET UP AND MAYBE CAN HELP ILLUSTRATE SO APOLOGIES WHEN I HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH A HANDFUL OF EXTRA HERE NOT TOO MANY SO THERE'S THE CITY WIDE MAP WITH POTENTIAL FOR DISTANCES ON THERE. SO THE IN THE ORDINANCE IS THE 500 FOOT BUFFER. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE MIDDLE RING OUT OF THE 300 501,000 MAY HELP TO LOOK AT THE NEXT MAP WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE ZOOMED IN KIND OF ON THE 98TH STREET AND LYNDALE AREA. SO YOU SEE THERE THE THREE DIFFERENT DISTANCES ILLUSTRATED LIKE I SAID EARLIER A 300 THE 300 FEET THAT IS IN THE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE BETWEEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES REPRESENTS A DISTANCE OF ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK SURE THANK YOU.  WELL ANYTHING ADDITIONAL?  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. DON'T GO FAR MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BUT FIRST THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 A PUBLIC HEARING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS THE CANNABIS BUSINESS BUSINESS LICENSING REGULATIONS ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING MR. ALDERMAN WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE LINE WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2. THERE IS NO ONE ON LINE, MR. MAYOR. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS, COUNSEL NO ONE ON THE LINE WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 NOBODY IN THE CHAMBERS COMING FORWARD I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AT AN 4.2 SOME MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.20 FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON INTENDS 4.2 SO COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF MR. BRILLANT ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WELL, I'VE GOT SOME COMMENTS HERE THAT I JUST WANTED MAKE AND AGAIN WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND NOT THAT I'M OPPOSED ANYONE USING CANNABIS OR ANY OF THE FUTURE USES THAT THESE BUSINESSES MAY END UP EMPLOYING IN THE FUTURE. BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER MENTIONED WHILE MUCH MORE SUCCINCTLY THAN I DID OR I'M GOING TO DO TODAY BUT I AM N GOING TO BE FOR THOSE REASONS AND MANY OTHER REASONS I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION DUE TO TODAY AS IT'S WRITTEN. THANK COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.  YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE WOULD PREFER THAT WE JUST MIMIC LIQUOR. THEY'RE BOTH INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES. I DON'T HAVE DATA IN FRONT OF ME BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS FAR MORE PEOPLE USE LIQUOR THAN USE CANNABIS AND I SINCE WE DON'T HAVE BUFFERS BETWEEN LIQUOR STORES I BELIEVE MARKETPLACE IS PROBABLY TAKING CARE OF THAT BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH LIQUOR THAT WILL BE SOLD IN ONE AREA. SO EVERY SO MUCH WEED THAT SOLD IN ONE AREA I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A BUFFER BETWEEN STORES I DO THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE.  I DO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE RETAIL WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO PARTICULARLY AROUND LIKE LYNDALE AND MAKING WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND LOCKING IN SOME BUSINESSES THERE YOU KNOW DO WE ARE WE RUN AN ISSUE IN THAT AREA BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THE DISTANCES BETWEEN THE BUFFERS AND I CAN GET OVER THE DIFFERENT ONE REGARDING LIQUOR IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO STAFF HAVE TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DISTANCES JUST IF IT'S A HALF BLOCK COME ON LIKE JUST MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.  THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DAMIEN.  I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. I THINK THE ADDITIONAL BETWEEN BUSINESSES IS JUST ADDITIONAL GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND WE DON'T NEED IT AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE MARKET WHEN THE MARKET PLAYS OUT AND I THINK IT WILL BE JUST LIKE LIQUOR WHERE IT'LL SPREAD OUT JUST LIKE IT DOES.  SO ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT STAFF DOES NEED TO DEAL WITH ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DEAL WITH. SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF REMOVING THAT PARTICULAR PIECE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNCIL COMMENTS AND  I WILL SAY IN RELATION TO BOTH OF THOSE COMMENTS SO THE BUFFER IS 14.2 88 AND COULD BE COULD BE EASILY SEVERED OFF SO IT COULD BE IT COULD BE SEPARATED OUT IF WE END UP THERE AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR MOTION KIND OF LEADS THAT THAT THAT'S A THAT'S AN OPTION SO MR. FERRARI MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IF I MAY JUST TO HELP YOU WITH RERENCE IT'S IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET ON PAGE 140 AND IF THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN OFFERING A MOTION I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MOTION TO BE TO STRIKE THE LAST CLAUSE STRIKE OR ANOTHER LICENSE CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESS AND YOU MAY WANT TO PROCESS THAT MOTION BEFORE CONSIDERING THE THE MOTION FOR THE FULL ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YEAH. IT'S JUST A COMMON KIND OF COMMENT TO WHAT I JUST HEARD OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS STATE IT IS TRUE THAT LIQUOR STORES HAVE ANY DISTANCES BETWEEN THEM BUT IT'S A DRAMATICALLY YOU DON'T SEE TWO LIQUOR STORES ONE ON TOP OF ANOTHER.  BUT IF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE VISITED COLORADO OR CALIFORNIA IN PLACES WHERE THEY SELL POT THEY'RE ALL IN JUST ONE AREA AND THE PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING THE STREETS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING CANNABIS AND NOT ONLY USING THAT THEY GRADUATE SOMETHING STRONGER. RIGHT. QUITE FAST.  I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN AN AREA THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN PLANNING TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WALKING AREA AS LINDELL DOES AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I READ AND THE TEN YEAR PLAN TO EMBELLISH THE LINDELL CORRIDOR IF GOING TO PUT A BUNCH OF KIND OF SALES PLACES IN THERE THE POTENTIAL OF A PLACE BECOMING WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OTHER STATES THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IS THERE IS WHOLE KEEPING A DISTANCE 300 FEET SO I WOULD GO FOR IT NOT HAVING IT AT ALL BUT THAT'S JUST ME I, I AM FACING THE REALITY THAT THIS IS HERE TO STAY. HOWEVER JUST NOT HAVING ANY DISTANCES BETWEEN THAT IT CREATES PROBLEMS REALLY I WILL BE WILLING TAKE A COUPLE OF YOU GUYS AND PAY OUT OF MY POCKET TO GO VISIT AND COLORADO PLACES THAT SELL THE STUFF I WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN EXPERIENCE. WHAT I'M ABOUT DO WE WANT THAT IN BLOOMINGTON? LET'S FACE IT IT'S A REALITY. DOGS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. IT'S ADDICTIVE IT IS ADDICTIVE AND YOU THE HEALTH I FORGOT THE DOCTOR'S NAME BUT OUR OWN DOCTOR IN IN HEALTH AND WELLNESS DR. KELLY EXACTLY EVEN HE ADMITS THAT WE'RE HAVING DRUG PROBLEMS IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND WE PUSH THESE YES HE'S GOING TO BE REVENUE BUT THAT'S ALL WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT CONSTANT CONSEQUENCES OF OUR YOUTH AND SIMPLY ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME AND GET HOOKED ON IT AND THEN SIX MONTHS LATER THEY'RE USING CRACK OR WHATEVER IT IS OUT THERE ON THE STREETS IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IT REALLY SUITS YOUR HEART GUYS AND REALLY I WILL BE WILLING TO TAKE YOU GUYS TO SEE PLACES IN CALIFORNIA AND COLORADO SO THAT YOU CAN EXPERIENCE THE REALITY OF THIS . THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR ONE I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE DRUG ADDICTION AND ABUSE DISORDERS THAT MANY PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT.  SO I HEAR THE CONCERNS HOWEVER I JUST UP A MAP FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH IT'S CALLED WEED MAPS.  THEY'RE MULTIPLE BLOCKS APART. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 FEET IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.  THEY'RE NOT THREE THEY'RE NOT WITHIN 300 FEET. I MEAN I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP I MEAN I DON'T ENTIRELY DISAGREE WITH YOU BUT THE DATA DIFFERENTLY AND MAYBE THOSE TWO ARE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER BUT IF I'M THIESSEN AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON ONE DAY I THINK THAT'S A ZONING ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT ON THAT DISTRICT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THE PAWNSHOPS AND THINGS OF THAT WHAT WE IN LYNDALE AND ARE WHAT WE ENVISION AS A POTENTIAL OF DOWNTOWN ISH TYPE AREA WALKABLE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE WANT THERE I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS BRINGS ABOUT WHAT WE WANT FOR A COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT LIKE THE 300 FEET IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONCENTRATION OF THEM BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR SUBURBAN UNLIKE A DOWNTOWN URBAN AREA, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO DRIVE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE ONE CLOSEST TO THEM JUST LIKE THEY PROBABLY GO TO THE CLOSEST LIQUOR STORE TO THEM. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CITY TO GO TO A DIFFERENT LIQUOR STORE ALTHOUGH IT WAS I WOULDN'T SAY DISCOUNT LIQUOR. I DO KNOW THAT DROVE THERE SO YOU KNOW BUT IT'S MERVIN SO I DON'T MEAN TO DISPARAGE THEM A GREAT PLACE BUT RECENTLY BOUGHT OUT AND CLOSED COUPLE OF YEARS ALL I'M SAYING IS THE MARKETPLACE IS GOING TO PUT AS MANY OF THESE PLACES IN AS THE MARKETPLACE DEMANDS IT'S LEGAL. YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT?  AND I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE HAS THAT MUCH MERIT TO IT AND IT'S AGAIN I'M MORE FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE LIQUOR BECAUSE LIQUOR HAS PROVEN OVER A LONG TIME TO BE A VERY HARMFUL PRODUCT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ENJOY WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF THOSE HARMS.  COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I THANK YOU MAYOR. SAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IS THE BUFFER THE BUFFER BETWEEN LOCATIONS IS THAT COMMON IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND I THINK I SAW MINNEAPOLIS HAS LIKE A 500 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN LOCATIONS AND I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD IN COMMUNITIES OR IF IT'S MORE UNIQUE. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I DON'T KNO THAT IT'S FAIRLY COMMON. I DID SEE THAT IT WAS IN MINNEAPOLIS DRAFT ORDINANCE ALTHOUGH I THINK IN THEIR COUNCIL DELIBERATION I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IT INTO THE I DON'T KNOW IF IT SURVIVED INTO THE FINAL ORDINANCE. I DO KNOW THAT MANY STAFF INCLUDED THAT IN THEIR DRAFT ORDINANCE THEY DO HAVE A SEPARATION ORDINANCE FOR LIQUOR STORES. THEY WERE TRYING TO MIMIC THEIR REGULATIONS FOR LIQUOR STORES.  WELL, I'LL SAY THIS ONE IS PROBABLY NOT THE HILL I'M GOING TO. DIANE I'M WILLING TO DIANE I WILL SAY THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE MY COLLEAGUES ON COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER ORDER THAT BUFFER DISTANCE WITH SCHOOLS AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO WANT TO HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH LIQUOR.  I THINK IF WE WERE TO IF WE WERE STARTING FROM SCRATCH WITH LIQUOR RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO GUESS MOST PEOPLE UP HERE IF THE ADVISORY OF HEALTH ARE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WERE TELLING US HEY IT NEEDS TO BE A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER. WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER. AND SO I JUST DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INCREASE I GUESS HARM TO CHILDREN BECAUSE OF LIQUOR. DO YOU REALLY MEAN LIKE IT'S LIKE IT'S A POLICY THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE AND WE CAN'T REALLY DO MUCH ABOUT THAT NOW BECAUSE IF WE DID CHANGE IT WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF NONCOMPLIANCE.  BUT I JUST DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S A STRONG ENOUGH RATIONALE LIKE CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BUFFERS TO GO AGAINST WHAT THE ADVISORY OF HEALTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OUR DEPARTMENT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS TELLING THAT IS NEEDED TO HELP PROTECT KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY . TO ME I JUST CAN'T RATIONALIZE THAT AND I THINK THIS IS THE THAT I'M I'M GOING TO DOWN FOR THIS THIS PIECE OF POLICY SO.  YES. OTHERWISE I WOULD, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE. SO THANK YOU COUNSEL. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO FOR CONTEXT BUCK LIQUORS AND UNITED LIQUORS 90TH AND PENN SIT WITHIN 500 FEET OF EACH OTHER AND I THINK THEY'RE BOTH DOING REALLY WELL. SO JUST GO THROW THAT OUT THERE EITHER OF THEM OR BY A SCHOOL. HOWEVER AND I GET THAT I NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING A THOUSAND FOOT DISTANCE I JUST THINK THAT THE CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH THAT IS SIMPLY THAT I, I THINK WE'RE ADDING IN GENERALLY SPEAKING I THINK WE'RE ADDING INTO CODE SOMETHING THAT GETS HANDLED THROUGH OTHER ENFORCEMENT FUNCTIONS SO FOR EXAMPLE THE THE ABILITY TO ADVERTISE THE ABILITY TO ENTER THE STORE, THE ABILITY TO YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT YOU ON A LICENSEE TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW. TO THOSE ARE THE RIGHT YOU KNOW CARROTS AND STICKS IF YOU WILL THEN POTENTIALLY CARVE OUT PARTS OF THE CITY AND SAY THOU SHALL NOT PASS.  THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN SUPER SUPPOIVE OF IT BECAUSE I THINK THOSE OTHER MEASURES THAT SHOULD BE USED I MEAN I UNDERSTAND ON TOBACCO AS AN EXAMPLE IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE EUROPEANS CHOSE TO GO AFTER IT PERSONALLY I THINK AN 18 POINT FONT ON THE SIDE OF THE THING IN BLACK AND WHITE THAT SAYS IT KILLS YOU IS PROBABLY A BIGGER DETERRENT THAN HOW FAR AWAY YOU ARE FROM A SCHOOL TO BUY THE STUFF. NOW I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THAT AND I'M NOT A POLICY EXPERT ON PUBLIC HEALTH SO I AGREE THAT DEFERRING TO OUR PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.  BUT SO IF THE COUNCIL IF WE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF MODIFICATIONS TO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US ONE BEING THAT WE INCREASED THE SCHOOL BUFFER AND THE OTHER ONE BEING THAT WE ELIMINATE THE BETWEEN BUSINESSES BUFFER I WOULD ADD PASS THAT RIGHT.  THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER AND THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST WHERE I WAS HEADED. SORRY I GUESS I SHOULD SAY MR. MAYOR, I WOULD VOTE YES FOR THAT TONIGHT. I DON'T GET TO PASS ANYTHING MY OWN.  I'M SORRY. UNDERSTOOD. HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND.  WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF IDEAS THAT HAVE COME UP, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST PERHAPS IS THAT WE TAKE THEM KIND OF PASSED OUT FIRST PROPOSED COUPLE OF CHANGES, MAYBE PASS THEM OUT, SEE WHERE WE ON THAT AND THEN LOOK AT THE WHERE WE STAND AFTER.  CONSIDER THOSE TWO THINGS AND THEN LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE JUST IN GENERAL.  SO FOR EXAMPLE AND I'M SCOURING THIS AND I CAN'T FIND IT VERY QUICKLY HERE BUT WHERE THE THE SPECIFIC THE BUFFER LANGUAGE IN THE LINE IF YOU COULD DEFINE IT FOR ME MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS BOTH OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING ARE IN 14.2808 WHICH IS ON PAGE 140 OF THE PACKET HERE IT IS. SO IT HAS BOTH THE SEPARATOR FROM SCHOOLS IN THE FIRST CLAUSE BEFORE THE COMMA AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT SEPARATION OF RETAIL BUSINESSES THE LAST CLAUSE AFTER THE COMMA COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IT THANKS MAYOR I APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTION FOR APPROACH I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU ASKED ME THESE INDIVIDUALLY MY ANSWERS WILL DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU ANSWER IF YOU ASK ME THEM TOGETHER THEY MIGHT AS SOMEONE JUST MAKE A MOTION TO DO THE THOUSAND FEET THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AND REMOVE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM AND SEE IF THAT PASSES OR NOT. SECOND I DON'T MAKE MOTIONS I WAS YOU KNOW COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION?  YES, I JUST HAVE TO FIND IT. WELL, ACTUALLY WHEN WE WHEN WE CARVED OUT FIRST WITH THE AND ONE IN 14 TO 80 A AND CHANGE NUMBERS FROM 500 TO 1000 AND I THINK WE WANT TO DO THIS FIRST AND THEN THEN DO THE IF WE MAKE THESE CHANGES AND THEN DO THE WHOLE THING OH OKAY. OKAY IF THAT MEANS YES. ALL RIGHT.  OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE YES IN 14.2 80A SO TO CHANGE WITHIN THREE MONTHS I GOT A READING HERE 500 FEET OF A SCHOOL TO 1000 FEET OF A SCHOOL AND DO YOU WANT TO DO THEM SEPARATELY OR DO YOU WANT TO DO THEM TOGETHER? DO THEM TOGETHER. OKAY AND STRIKE THE 300 FROM ANOTHER LICENSED CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESS SECOND. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. YEAH. ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT ON THIS MANDATORY MAYOR?  I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE RECORD IF IF COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COULD PERHAPS READ SHE WANTS IT TO BE STATED SO THAT WE ARE ALL CLEAR. OKAY. THANK AND CAN I CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO IS THAT YOU PUT THE WORD AND BEFORE PARK ATTRACTION AND THEN A PERIOD THERE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE INTENDING TO DO OKAY DO I NEED TO SAY THE NUMBER AGAIN JUST READ IT THE 814 POINT OKAY SO I WOULD MOVE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AND SECTION 14.280 TO READ NO REGISTRY NO RETAIL REGISTRATION UNDER THIS CODE SHALL BE GRANTED TO ANY LOCATION WITHIN 1000 FEET OF A SCHOOL OR WITHIN 300 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY OR PARK ATTRACTION PERIOD.  AND I'LL SECOND THAT HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO WAS EVERYBODY CLEAR.  WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PACKET,  YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE ON PAGE 140.  SO WE'VE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S PROPOSING THAT IF WE GO FROM 500 FEET WITHIN THE SCHOOL TO A THOUSAND FEET FROM A SCHOOL AND THEN BASICALLY ELIMINATES THE 300 FOOT BUFFER AROUND LICENSED CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESS, EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT?  WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LAMONT. ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE SO WE HAVE MADE THE CHANGES IN THE .20 SECTION A NOW WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MOVE THE THE ORDINANCE AS WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US? COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I WOULD THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 1314 AND APPENDIX EIGHT THE CITY CODE AS STATED IN THE MEETING TO CANNABIS BUSINESS REGULATIONS. SECOND, AS AMENDED WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE OF MANY CHAPTERS 1314 IN APPENDIX SAY OF THE CITY CODE AS AMENDED RELATED CANNABIS BUSINESS REGULATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SUMMARY PUBLICATION PLEASE I MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 1314 IN APPENDIX A AS AMENDED OF THE CITY CODE RELATED THE CANNABIS BUSINESS REGULATIONS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ON ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU MISS BURTON. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THIS AND FOR GETTING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE SO THANK YOU MUCH.  NOW COUNCIL WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 5.1 A STUDY ITEM REGARDING THE ARTS ONE ZONING DISTRICT REVIEW OUR THIRD CRACK AT THAT PART THREE THINK JOHNSON IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING GOOD EVENING MR. JOHNSON AND.  WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK SO I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THIS AND AGAIN FOR REFERENCE THERE IS ONE ZONING DISTRICT IS OUR LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND OUR ZONING CODE . SO JUST TO OUTLINE THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE PURSUED OR EXECUTED TO DATE SO THIS IS A PROJECT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN. IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR AND THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION ALSO OCCURRED IN FEBRUARY. WE DID HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON ON THIS PROJECT WHILE THERE WAS SOME STATE LEGISLATION AROUND MINIMUM LOT SIZES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WAS OCCURRING THAT WAS ACTIVE AT THE LEGISLATURE IN ORDER TO FIND OUT WHAT RESULTS OF THAT WERE THAT DID NOT COME TO PASS.  AND SO WE PICKED THIS PROJECT BACK UP AND PRESENTED IT TO YOU IN AUGUST OF 2024 WE GOT REALLY CLOSE TO REACHING A GOOD AMOUNT OF CONSENSUS THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL ON MOST OF THE ISSUES AND SO THAT WAS APPRECIATED AND HELPFUL AS WITH MOST ZONING CONVERSATIONS THEY GET PRETTY INTO THE WEEDS AND INTO THE DETAILS SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE FINAL ITEMS TO DISCUSS HERE FOR YOU ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THE CURRENT ARTS ONE ZONING DISTRICT IT'S CURRENTLY APPLIES 216 PROPERTIES ALL CONCENTRATED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF NORMAN BOULEVARD PRIMARILY IN THREE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE ARE TWO STANDALONE LOTS THAT HAVE THIS ZONING DESIGNATION WELL THAT SORT THAT PROACTIVELY AS A PRIVATE SO IN TERMS OF WHAT OCCURRED IN THE AUGUST MEETING ,A CONSENSUS WAS REACHED FROM STAFF'S INTERPRETATION AND PERSPECTIVE ON AMENDING THE DISTRICT AND TEN STATEMENT REMOVING THE MEDIAN SITE REQUIREMENT IN BOTH RS1 AND R1A ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL AS REMOVING THE PREVAILING IN BOTH OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT WOULD BRING CONSISTENCY AMONG.  ALL OF OUR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THAT'S APPRECIATED AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON STREAMLINING FOR A WHILE THERE WERE SOME USE CHANGES THAT THE COUNCIL THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WERE SUPPORTIVE OF BY ALLOWING TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND AS ONE AND PROHIBITING A FEW INSTITUTIONAL USES THAT STAFF FELT NOT APPROPRIATE IN THE LAST ONE DISTRICT AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A POSITIVE DISCUSSION AROUND AFFIRMING CRITERIA FOR EVALUATING REZONING REQUESTS WHICH IS ALSO APPRECIATED AS THOSE RESPONDING TO THOSE INQUIRIES THOSE PHONE CALLS. SO WHERE WE DID NOT REACH A MAJORITY CONSENSUS AS OF YET HAD TO DO WITH THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT AND AS WELL AS THE APPROACH ON ENHANCED DISTRICT SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND.  THOSE STANDARDS COULD RANGE FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND I WILL HEAR IN A MINUTE BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT EFFECTIVELY WE NEEDED TO COME BACK TO GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL PRIOR TO SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING.  SO WE HAVE THESE TWO ISSUES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN OUR APPROACH TO TRY AND BUILD CONSENSUS GOING FROM THERE TO TRY AND ESTABLISH WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS PROJECT WAS TO CREATE EFFECTIVELY SIX OPTIONS THAT HINGED ON THESE TWO ISSUES OF LACK OF CONSENSUS. SO AGAIN THE FIRST ISSUE IS MINIMUM LOT SIZE THE EXISTING LOT MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENT AND RS ONE IS 33,000 SQUARE FEET THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE. THERE WAS SOME CORRESPONDENCE THE PUBLIC AND DISCUSSION DATING BACK TO MAY OF 2023 WHEN WE MADE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT WHICH REPRESENTS THE BULK OF THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN BLOOMINGTON TO LOOK AT A HALF AN ACRE EFFECTIVELY MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR OUR LARGE LARGE LOT DISTRICTS AND THE NUMBER THAT THEY THAT WE STUDIED AND THAT THEY SUGGESTED WAS A 22,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT WHICH BY METRO STANDARDS EFFECTIVELY STILL WOULD MEET KIND OF THE INFORMAL CRITERIA OF WHAT WE SEE FOR A LARGE LOT DISTRICT. AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION TO EVALUATE FROM A FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF LOT SIZE WAS ACTUALLY JUST REDUCING THE MINIMUM LOT TO ALIGN IT WITH OUR ONE DISTRICT STANDARDS THERE IS THE ONE A DISTRICT SOME PEOPLE SOMETIMES ASK ABOUT THAT DISTRICT IT ONLY APPLIES TO SEVEN PROPERTIES AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE A SEPARATE ONE THERE IS THAT THOSE ARE ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE NOT SERVED BY SANITARY SEWER THEN THE SECONDARY ISSUE WHICH CREATES THE THE THREE B OPTIONS ARE A AND B OPTIONS IS WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL THAT ARE DISTRICT SPECIFIC AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF ORDINANCE THESE ORDINANCE OPTIONS I WANT TO STRESS THAT THESE ARE CONCEPTS SO THE CITY COUNCIL COULD CERTAINLY PROVIDE MORE DIRECTION AS TO WHAT OTHER FORMS OF DISTRICT SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS YOU KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT. BUT THE TWO THINGS WE FOCUSED ON WERE WE YOU KNOW, HAD THE GREATEST POTENTIAL IMPACT AS IT RELATES TO INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE SIGHT DISTURBING ACTIVITY IN THIS AREAS WAS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SO ALL STRUCTURES ALL GRADING ALL KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS APPURTENANCES OR OTHER THAT YOU BUILD ON A RESIDENTIAL SITE EFFECTIVELY CREATE IMPERVIOUS AND HAVE IMPACTS TO VEGETATION AND OTHER THINGS.  AND SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE FOCUSED ON.  THE OTHER THING THAT WE FOCUSED ON WAS TREE PRESERVATION AND SO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES SITES TO PROVIDE A TREE PRESERVATION PLAN THEY ARE SPLITTING A LOT OR SUBDIVIDING IN SOME WAY AND THOSE REGULATIONS APPLY FOR TWO YEARS. WHAT WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON WITH THAT WAS A LOWER TRIGGER FOR REFORESTATION AND SO OUR BASE REQUIREMENT IS THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO REMOVE 50% OF THE SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THE SITE BEFORE YOU HAVE TO START TO REPLACEMENT CAMPAIGN EFFECTIVELY AND WHAT YOU COULD DO IN A DISTRICT THAT HAD DISTRICT SPECIFIC STANDARDS IS LOWER THAT THRESHOLD TO DISCOURAGE MORE TREE REMOVAL.  YOU COULD DO OTHER THINGS SUCH AS RAISE THE REFORESTATION REQUIREMENT JUST THE RATIO OF EVERY INCH THAT YOU LOSE YOU HAVE TO PUT TWO BACK IN . YOU COULD ALSO EXPAND THE TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS TO OTHER ACTIVITIES SUCH AS JUST A BUILDING PERMIT I WILL NOTE ON THAT FRONT THAT IT TENDS TO TAKE MORE STAFF INVOLVEMENT ADMINISTRATION TO DO THAT IT ALSO TENDS TO ADD SOME COST ON PROJECTS IN TERMS OF REQUIRING A TREE SURVEY FOR ALL OF ADDITIONAL FORMS OF JUST HOME IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONS AND YOU KNOW LEADING UP TO NEW DWELLINGS AS WELL. SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AND I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS EARLIER FORGIVE ME THAT PAIRED WITH THIS ARE AS ONE DISTRICT ZONING STUDY WHICH WRAPPED UP IN JUNE WAS A OF OUR CITYWIDE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAT APPLIED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS PART OF THAT EFFORT WE LOOKED AT TREE PRESERVATION STEEP OR STEEP STANDARDS WE LOOKED AT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE HABITAT.  THE CONSENSUS COMING OUT OF THAT FROM BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL BASICALLY TO AFFIRM THAT THE CITY STANDARDS ARE QUITE STRONG ESPECIALLY IN COMPARISON TO OTHER FULLY BUILT PEER COMMUNITIES.  MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE A TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENT OR ESPECIALLY STEEP REQUIREMENT. IN ADDITION, THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN OTHER PROACTIVE MEASURES TO PROTECT ENVIRONMENTAL OR SENSITIVE RESOURCES RATHER ESPECIALLY THE MINNESOTA RIVER WITH THEIR BLUFF PROTECTION SO AT THAT POINT AND THAT ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE THAT WAS THE CITY WIDE LOOK THAT WRAPPED UP IN JUNE AND WAS MORE MODEST IMPROVEMENTS I GUESS YOU COULD SAY OR JUST CLARIFICATIONS JUST TO MAKE THE ADMINISTRATION A BIT MORE EFFECTIVE BASICALLY. SO SORRY. JUST TO GET BACK TO WHAT ELSE COULD BE LOOKED AT YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CITIES COULD DO. SOME OF THOSE THINGS MAY MAY NOT BE POPULAR. THERE'S DISCUSSION AROUND WAYS TO SUPPORT WILDLIFE HABITAT IN TERMS OF FENCING OR OTHER BARRIERS WHERE WILDLIFE MOVE REQUIRING DIFFERENT VARIOUS FORMS OF LANDSCAPING ON PROPERTIES WITHIN HABITAT CORRIDORS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO BUT ALL OF THESE AS I SAID BEFORE, CARRY WITH THEM SOME LEVEL OF STAFF IMPLEMENTATION AND ADMINISTRATION ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY DOING AND SO THAT HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES KIND OF A A BASELINE OVERVIEW OF HOW WE DEVELOPED THE SIX OPTIONAL ORDINANCES THAT WE PREPARED FOR YOU AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. I THINK I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS ARE MORE VIEWED AS A CONCEPT AT THIS POINT. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS DON'T GET MARRIED TO THE VERY SPECIFIC NUMBERS ON THE IMPERVIOUS PIECE OR THE TREE PRESERVATION STANDARD BUT WE CAN COLLECT YOUR THOUGHTS.  SO BASED ON THESE STANDARDS ONE VISUAL THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL TO STAFF AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS WHAT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TONIGHT TO YOU IS WE THINK THAT HAS BEEN A LOT OF GOOD WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON THE RS ONE DISTRICT AS WE APPROACH ANY ONE OF OUR PROJECTS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN, WE ALWAYS WANT TO TRY AND EXTRACT THE MOST VALUE FOR WHAT THE TASK IS AND MAKE THINGS BETTER. AND SO AS PART OF OUR ANALYSIS OF SIX OPTIONS A HELPFUL VISUAL FOR US WAS THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF A SPECTRUM OF CHANGE WHAT REPRESENTS THE MOST AMOUNT OF CHANGE, WHAT REPRESENTS MODERATE CHANGE AND WHAT REPRESENTS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE?  THE OPTIONS THAT HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS REPRESENT A MORE MODERATE TO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AND THE OPTIONS THAT DECREASE LOT SIZES REPRESENT A MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE VERSUS A MODERATE CHANGE.  SO IF YOU'RE KEEPING THE LOTS AT MINIMUM LOT SIZES THE WAY THEY ARE, IT'S EFFECTIVELY KIND OF HOLDING TRUE TO WHAT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS FOR THOSE 116 LOTS AND KIND OF CARRYING FORWARD WITH THAT.  THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD ABOUT THIS VISUAL IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGE THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN THING HERE. BUT ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT TWO OTHER THINGS ACTUALLY COMPLEXITY SO REGULATORY COMPLEXITY WE SPEND HAVE SPENT A LOT OF OXYGEN TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE OF TRYING TO MAKE THINGS LESS COMPLEX FROM A LAND USE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT.  SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE ASPECT TO IT. YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU KNOW WE DON'T GET ABOUT THE RS ONE DISTRICT EVERY DAY OR EVEN EVERY WEEK BUT WHEN YOU DO GET THE QUESTION AND IF THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THAT DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE NOT USED TO WORKING THROUGH JUST AS A STAFF PERSON YOU KNOW WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO CERTAINLY TRIP YOU UP OR MISS NUANCE OR THAT DETAIL NOW AND WE CERTAINLY WOULD STRIVE NOT TO DO THAT. OF COURSE.  BUT JUST KIND OF ADDING IN THAT PIECE ANECDOTALLY ABOUT THE REGULATORY COMPLEXITY AND THEN FINALLY AS I THINK MAYBE THE BIGGER ISSUE POTENTIALLY WITH IS THAT THERE'S 116 OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT EXIST TODAY.  IF YOU START TO IMPOSE STANDARDS THAT ARE MORE STRICT THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY, THERE IS  THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY. AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WAS POTENTIALLY LEGAL OR CREATED UNDER THE PREVIOUS STANDARDS WHILE YES LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING SO CERTAINLY CAN BE REPLACED BUT COULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT OR AFFECT FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE SITE AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. SO CHANGE IS ONE THING REGULATORY COMPLEXITY ANOTHER AND THEN LEGAL NON-CONFORMING IS ANOTHER THING. SO BASED ON THESE FACTORS AND WHAT STAFF IS STRIVING TO DO FOR YOU TONIGHT IS PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION HAVE YOU REACT TO OUR RECOMMENDATION AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS TO PURSUE ORDINANCE OPTION ONE A AND THE REASON MORE BROADLY SPEAKING IS THAT WE JUST THINK IT'S THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD PATH MAKE POSITIVE USE OF THE POLICY WORK AND ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE DATE BUILD OFF THE CONSENSUS THAT HAS BEEN REACHED.  BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT GETTING MORE SPECIFIC THE REASONS THAT WE RECOMMEND ORDINANCE OPTION A IS THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME ABOUT BY LOWERING LOT SIZES THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT WHICH CERTAINLY YOUR COMMUTE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF . BUT THERE IS ALSO CONVERSELY THE POTENTIAL TO LOOK AT GOING TO THIS DISTRICT AWAY FROM R-1 AND WHAT THOSE RULES REPRESENT . SO ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT RELATED TO RELATED TO THAT POINT REZONING DOES CARRY WITH IT A LOT OF STAFF COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION CAPACITY AND SOMETIMES CAN BE CONTENTIOUS OR NOT KIND OF UNIVERSALLY IN THOSE AREAS LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY I JUST TO THAT PIECE OF IT I WON'T GO OVER THAT AGAIN THE APPROACH TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SO AS WE PRESENTED TO YOU WITH OUR PREVIOUS STUDY OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND IN THE BEST PRACTICE I GUESS FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE IS THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES OR, ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES OR SENSITIVE ASSETS. THEY REALLY SHOULD BE GEARED THAT SPECIFIC PHYSICAL FEATURE OF THE LAND OR WHATEVER THAT SENSITIVE FEATURE IS AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT IN A BASE ZONING ON A LOT BY LOT BASIS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE REZONING CRITERIA IS THE IMPORTANCE VALUE OF HAVING NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUITY OF THE BASE ZONING AND SO YOU COULD HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU KNOW HALF OF THE LOTS WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT HAVE THIS FEATURE, THE OTHER HALF MAY HAVE THIS SENSITIVE FEATURE OR THIS CHARACTERISTIC BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF PLANNING AND STRIVING FOR MORE REGULATORY WITHIN THESE DEFINED AREAS THERE CAN BE AN ISE THERE. SO WE STRIVE TO HAVE IT KIND OF APPLY CITYWIDE. THAT'S HOW ALL OF OUR REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW WHEN THERE IS INSTANCES OF GEOGRAPHIC SPECIFIC ASSET THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT AND I'LL KEEP BACK TO THE MINNESOTA RIVER BECAUSE THE CITY ESTABLISH A BLOCK PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT YOU CAN LOOK TO POTENTIALLY DEVELOPING ADOPTING AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. I WILL REITERATE I WASN'T HERE AT THAT TIME BUT IT WAS A RESOURCE INTENSIVE EFFORT AND ONE THAT HAS PAID GREAT DIVIDENDS AND THE CITY SHOULD BE AFFIRMED FOR OR CELEBRATED FOR BUT THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF MORE OF A ASSET SPECIFIC OR FEATURE SPECIFIC ZONING TOOL IN THE FORM OF AN OVERLAY.  ON THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT JUST THE APPROACH TO AMENDMENT MODEL PROTECTION IS THAT JUST FROM WHAT I LEARN AND WORKING WITH OUR WATER RESOURCE AND OUR ENGINEERING STAFF, MINNESOTA IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO STORMWATER THE WETLAND CONSERVATION ACT IS VERY STRONG. THE CITY'S SHORELINE ORDINANCE IS ENFORCED BY THE DNR REQUIRING BUFFERS FROM PUBLIC IDENTIFIED.  PUBLIC WATERS WHICH INCLUDES NINE MILE CREEK ARE VERY STRONG. THESE ARE NOT NEGOTIABLE REGULATIONS AND THEN IN ADDITION TO REQUIRING RATE VOLUME AND TREATMENT EVEN DOWN TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS NOW THE WATERSHED DISTRICT IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW HOME YOU HAVE TO DO SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON YOUR SITE AND SO I THINK IT'S MORE OF A MATTER THAT WE FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT OR STRONGLY THAT OUR EXISTING REGULATIONS WORKING AND DO PROTECT A NUMBER OF INCLUDING OUR STEEP ORDINANCE AND OTHER THINGS. SO THAT'S WE'RE AT WITH THAT ONE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT YOU KNOW THIS WASN'T TALKED ABOUT AS MUCH IN OUR PREVIOUS SESSIONS BUT ONE LINGERING THOUGHT IN STAFF'S MIND IS THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF PROGRESSING IS THAT WE'VE STRIVED AT UP UNTIL THIS POINT TO CARRY FORWARD A VERY COMPARABLE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT POSTURE OR EFFORT WITH RESPECT THESE ARE AS ONE PROPERTIES AS WE DID WITH THE R-1 AND THE REASON IS IS THAT WE DID NOT TO PROVIDE WE WANTED TO HAVE AN EQUITABLE AND SIMILAR APPROACH TO HOW WE WERE ENGAGING WITH THESE RESIDENTS OF THESE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PROBLEM THAT WAY OF THINKING OR ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT IT'S A MUCH SMALLER GROUPING OF LOTS THAT WOULD MAKE DIRECT ENGAGEMENT MUCH MORE FEASIBLE OR ACTUALLY ABLE TO HANDLE. AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE AS STAFF IS THAT IF YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS MAKING MORE DRASTIC CHANGES TO THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF OUR US ONE FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE IT PROBABLY WARRANTS SOME DIRECT CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS GIVEN THAT IT IS A MORE MANEABLE NUMBER TO CONTEND WITH.  AND JUST AS A REMINDER THE HOUR ONE LOTS THERE'S OVER 21,500 PROPERTIES IN BLOOMINGTON LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE ONE SO DOING A DIRECT MAILER FOR EXAMPLE OR YOU KNOW ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS AT STRATEGIC LOCATIONS ALL OVER TOWN I SUPPOSE WAS DEEMED FEASIBLE AT THAT TIME. AND THEN FINALLY JUST FROM A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. SO I'LL GET BACK TO THE 116 LOT PIECE OF THIS.  WE THINK EVERY ZONING STUDY IS WORTHY AND THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ON AN ONGOING BASIS. WE APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF WHAT'S GOING FORWARD.  WE ALSO DO WANT TO PRESENT FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION IF WE GO IN MORE COMPLEX DIRECTIONS AND DO WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STAFF CAPACITY AND PC CAPACITY IN CITY COUNCIL CAPACITY THAT WE'RE BEING COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT IT REPRESENTS ABOUT HALF A PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN BLOOMINGTON JUST FROM BULK NUMBERS STANDPOINT AND CERTAINLY IF MORE LOTS GOT RESOLVED THAT THAT INCREASES NUMBER BUT OVERALL THERE MAY BE OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY WARRANT MORE ADDITIONAL OF THAT FOCUSED TIME STUDY.  SO WE WOULD PRESENT TO YOU OPTION ONE A FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE CERTAINLY CAN ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OPTION ONE OR ALL OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU? TERMS OF NEXT STEPS I'LL UP HERE YOU HAVE A LONG AGENDA. SORRY IF WE DO CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD IF FOR SOME OF THE MORE SIMPLER OPTIONS WE COULD BRING SOMETHING FORWARD AT A PUBLIC HEARING IN DECEMBER FOR PLANNING IN JANUARY FOR CITY COUNCIL AS I MENTIONED OOPS OR COMPLEX MAY WARRANT SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT COULD AFFECT SCHEDULE AND THEN IF CONSENSUS CHANGES TO THE HOURS ONE DISTRICT OR NOT SUPPORTED TWO OPTIONS THERE WE COULD YOU COULD OFFER ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO STAFF OR YOU COULD EFFECTIVELY CONSIDER THE STUDY COMPLETED SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE AND COUNCILMEMBERS I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I WAS NOT HERE. I DID GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN THE CONVERSATION THAT THIS GROUP HAD WHILE I WAS MS. . MISSING WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS JUST AN EXCELLENT CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF REALLY I THINK REALLY TWO REALLY GREAT IDEAS . SO JUST TO BE SUCCINCT, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT ON THE ON THE AGENDA HERE MAYOR IS THAT YOU KNOW I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA OF THE CUSTOMER DALLESSANDRO BROUGHT FORWARD WITH THIS IDEA OF REALLY KIND OF A UNIQUE NEW ZONING THING LET'S CALL IT OUR ARE OR JUST TRYING TO TAKE THE RISK ONE TRYING TO MAKE IT INTO KIND OF THIS NEW ENVIRONMENTAL TYPE CODE I CONCEPTUALLY LOVE THAT THAT THAT IDEA AND SO SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT THAT TYPE OF IDEA ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE MULTIPLE ENVIRONMENTAL STRUCTURES ACROSS THE MAP. I LIKE THAT I LIKE THAT CONCEPTUAL IDEA AND HOW YOU CAN LAYER THOSE THINGS TOGETHER NOW ON THE OTHER HAND I'M REALLY OPPOSED TO REALLY KIND OF TRYING TO CHANGE REALLY ANYTHING THAT IS WITH THE CURRENT ARTIST ONE ZONING DISTRICT FOR REALLY MANY OF THE REASONS THAT YOU HAVE KIND OF LAID OUT WITH THIS ONE TOO AND THE THING THAT THE TWO THINGS THAT THE KIND OF THAT I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 116 LOTS OUT THERE BEING ABOUT 1%, THAT JUST REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE AND OF THE THINGS I LIKE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST WAS THIS OF WHAT THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES DID WITH THEIR WILDLIFE ORDINANCE.  AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THE COMMITMENT AND THE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO TRY TO PULL SOMETHING LIKE THAT OFF IS QUITE CONSIDERABLE. AND SO I GUESS IN WHAT I WOULD SAY IS YOU KNOW CONCEPTUALLY I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE LOOKING AT THIS IDEA OF I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE YET. MAYOR IN TERMS OF IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT A NEW ZONING CODE THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO LOOK AT MANY MORE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE THE YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE LAID THAT OUT QUITE IN OUR LAST CONVERSATION WITH THIS IDEA THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE ANALYSIS OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES TO BE ABLE TO TO REALLY KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHICH PROPERTIES KIND OF FIT TOGETHER. NOW OF NOW I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THAT ALSO MAY CREATE SOME NONCONFORMITY AS WELL FROM WENT DOWN THAT ROAD AS WELL BUT I JUST THINK THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING WE TRY TO DO WITH THIS ARTIST WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NOT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY COMPLICATED DIFFICULT AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY OUGHT TO DO THAT BUT THAT'S BUT I DO LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF HAVING A OF HAVING A ZONE LIKE THAT SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COMPLICATES IT MORE OR MAKES IT BETTER I DON'T KNOW IT IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T CLARIFY COUNCILMEMBER IF YOU HAD A LOOKING AT THOSE LETTERS WITH NUMBERS, WHAT WOULD YOU WHAT WOULD YOU WHERE WOULD YOU FALL? WELL I GUESS I'D HAVE TO GO WITH THIS THIS ONE A BECAUSE IT JUST YOU KNOW I MEAN I HONESTLY WOULD LIKE TO JUST DO NOTHING. I'D LIKE TO JUST LEAVE IT THERE, NOT TOUCH IT AT ALL BUT THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. SO YOU.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU.  A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS HERE. SO THERE ARE IN THE INTENT STATEMENT THREE THINGS THERE ARE FOUR THINGS. ONE IS LARGE LAND SIZE BUT THE OTHER THREE THINGS REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENT ARE WETLANDS,  STEEP SLOPES AND VEGETATION WETLANDS AND STEEP SLOPES.  WE ALREADY HAVE AS YOU STATED, SIGNIFICANT TOOLS ORDINANCES IN PLACE THAT WOULD APPLY TO REST ONE ALL AND ALSO APPLY TO OUR AND APPLY TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL THAT THAT ACCURATE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT'S CORRECT. THE ONLY CAVEAT SAY TO THAT IS THAT OUR STEEP ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPLY TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.  IT'S JUST THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SITE FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IT ALREADY APPLIES. SO TO HAVE THAT IN THE INTENT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR ONE. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE THEY APPLY EITHER WAY VEGETATION OR TREES. THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT THAT WERE POTENTIALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY DIFFERENT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO WOULD CHANGE AND THE TREE RATIO WOULD CHANGE ON THE R ONE IT WAS 50% OF THE TREES AND THAT WOULD DROP TO 25% IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM OUT AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WAS 25% TO 35% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO SIMPLY JUST CHANGE OUR ONE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAID LOTS OF TO 2000 SQUARE FEET CAN HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OF THIS ABOVE 22,000 CAN HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OF THIS AND SIMILAR TO THE TREE COULD YOU JUST DO OUR ONE ZONING THAT SAID LOTS OF THIS SIZE COULD BE UP TO 50% LOTS OVER THIS SIZE COULD BE 25% COULD USE CHANGE R ONE AND INCORPORATE THOSE TWO THINGS EASILY INTO IT MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YOU COULD CHANGE THE BASE STANDARDS FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND OR THE IMPERVIOUS HARD COVER AS WELL AS TREES FOR THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS BASED ON LOT SIZE YOU DO THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH IN FACT WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A STANDARD FOR THAT ALREADY IF YOU LOOK AT OUR IMPERVIOUS LIMITS THERE IS THAT PROVISION AROUND THE EXCEEDING 12,000 SQUARE FEET AND IMPERVIOUS THAT'S FOR THE VERY LARGE LOTS THAT'S LIKE SAYING YOU CAN'T GO BEYOND THIS. YEAH I DON'T CARE MANY ACRES YOU HAVE YOU GET YOU HAVE A CAP IF YOU HAVE FIVE ACRES YOU CAN WRITE COVER FOUR SO EFFECTIVELY CURRENTLY OUR ONLY WHAT SIZE DRIVEN CRITERIA IT RELATES TO IMPERVIOUS TODAY THEY DON'T ALL CIRCLE BACK TO MY COMMENT ABOUT REGULATORY COMPLEXITY THE MORE BOXES AND EVALUATION CRITERIA YOU'RE DOING IN EVERY SINGLE INQUIRY AND BUILDING PROJECT YOU DO YOU KNOW THE MORE POTENTIAL THERE IS FOR ERROR A COMPLEXITY. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY AND THIS IS THE PART I'M LESS WITH OR DON'T UNDERSTAND AS WELL IS THAT THE CITY'S CITYWIDE MANAGEMENT PERMIT THE RMS FOR PERMIT PART OF ONE OF THE INPUTS ON THAT MY UNDERSTANDING AND SORRY JULIE I DIDN'T WARN YOU ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION I SUPPOSE BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH MODELING WHAT THE IMPERVIOUS LIMIT IS ON THE BULK OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THAT'S KIND OF ALREADY AN INPUT IN OUR PERMIT MODELING IF THAT MAKES SENSE BUT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND I APPRECIATE THAT COMPLEXITY AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS REDUCING COMPLEXITY BECAUSE AS I'VE STATED PREVIOUSLY I WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE RS ONE AND JUST GO TO R ONE AND INCORPORATE THOSE TWO MINOR CHANGES INTO IT AND JUST HAVE ONE ZONING DISTRICT THAT YOU HAD TO KNOW AND NOT HAVE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE TWO . WITH REGARDS TO COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN'S CONCERNS ABOUT NON-CONFORMITY I MAY HAVE I MAY HAVE UNDERSTOOD NON-CONFORMITY DIFFERENT THAN HIM I THOUGHT THE NON-CONFORMITY WOULD COME UP IF OTHER AREAS WENT TO RED ZONE TO RS ONE AND THEN THERE WE LOOKED AT EXAMPLES OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE 40% OF THE LOTS WOULDN'T MEET THE STANDARDS, 60% WOULD OR VICE VERSA OR WHATEVER. THAT'S WHERE I THE NONCONFORMING WOULD COME IN IS IF WE IF WE SOMEHOW ALLOW THIS TO EXPAND BEYOND THE CURRENT 116 PARCELS. SO MAYOR COUNCILOR NELSON YOU FOR THAT QUESTION? IT'S A GOOD ONE AND GOOD CLARIFICATION SO THAT THAT EARLIER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW YOU COULD RESULT IN PROPERTIES IF THEY WEREN'T MEETING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE THE CITY HAS A LOT OF DISCRETION WHEN IT COMES TO AND BY CITY I MEAN YOU ALL AS THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETION OF WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS YOU APPLY TO PARCELS US AS STAFF WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ISSUING A BUILDING PERMIT WE HAVE NO DISCRETION ABOUT IF YOUR SITE EXCEEDS YOUR MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS LIMIT AND YOU WANT TO BUILD A NEW KITCHEN AT THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE WHAT DO YOU WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO REMOVE THAT TO MAKE MOM AND SO ARE THEY YOU KNOW TRY AND SEEK A VARIANCE OR SOMETHING THEN COME BEFORE YOU I SUPPOSE BUT OR PLANNING COMMISSION RATHER BUT YEAH SO THAT'S KIND OF THE NUANCED DISTINCTION IS THAT YOU CAN APPLY ZONING DISTRICTS TO PROPERTIES THAT DON'T MEET EVERY IT'S NOT A BEST PRACTICE THAT'S AGAIN I'VE SAID BEFORE THEY DON'T TEACH THAT IN PLANNING SCHOOL SO IF THE 116 PROPERTIES THAT ARE READ ONE NOW WE'RE REZONE TO OUR ONE WOULD THEY BE NON-CONFORMING I'M I HESITATE TO SAY YES IN EVERY WAY BUT I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE CONFORMING FOR THE MOST PART YES SO WE ELIMINATED SOME OF THAT CONCERN AND THEN AM I CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING SUN MAPS EARLIER THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR WETLANDS AND SLOPES ARE NOT IN OUR S ONE ZONE. THEY'RE ALREADY IN OUR ONE ZONES AND SO WE'RE ALREADY MANAGING THESE IN OUR ONE ZONING EFFECTIVELY IN THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.  AMERICANS FOR NELSON I'D SAY THAT'S FAIR. YOU KNOW BRIAN AGREED ON THE WATER RESERVE STAFF DO A GREAT JOB OF REVIEWING DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AND BUILDING PERMITS AS THEY COME THROUGH. IF THERE'S A KNOWN WETLAND SOMEWHERE THEY FLAG IT AS AN ISSUE AND THEY ENSURE THAT WAKO IS FOLLOWED WHICH MEANS REQUIRING A BUFFER YOU HAVE TO HAVE BOTH MINIMUM AND AVERAGE BUFFERS TO THE WETLANDS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE AND QUALITY OF WETLAND THAT IT YEAH YEAH AND WE HAVE OUR PARTNERS IN THE THOUGH WITH WATER GROUPS WATERSHED DISTRICT WATERSHED DISTRICTS WE'RE WE'RE A WATERSHED DISTRICT YOU SO YEAH SO IN HAVING PERMITS WITH THEM I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THINGS SO YOU YOU'VE LAID OUT LIKE SIX CRITERIA AND MY REASON FOR AGAIN COMING BACK TO THE R ONE IS I THINK IT REDUCES COMPLEXITY IT'S ONE ZONING DISTRICT IT'S ONE SET OF STANDARDS. THERE MAY BE SOME NUANCES BASED LOT SIZE BUT THAT ALREADY EXISTS TO IT ELIMINATES OR GREATLY REDUCES NON-CONFORMITY BECAUSE ALL OF THE CURRENT RC ONES WOULD CONFORM TO R ONE OR ALMOST ALL OF THEM WOULD. IT ELIMINATES THE OPTION OR THE IDEA OF REZONING OTHER AREAS AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANT AND I THINK BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SAID AT OUR LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS IS SHE WAS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE LOTS SHE WANTED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND THIS TAKES US TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF ENVIRONMENT OR STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY APPLY THEM EVERYWHERE NOT JUST 116 LOTS,  20 SOME THOUSAND LOTS. LET'S APPLY THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND PROTECT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ON THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US. AND SO THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT AND ELIMINATION OF THE RS ONE LIKE YOU COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER THE MAYOR I THE MOST PART AGREE WITH YOU GOTTA REMEMBER NELSON BUT FOR FOR THE SAKE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE ONE OPTION THIS MOVES US AND I THINK THE RIGHT DIRECTION IT GIVES RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THEIR BACK BECAUSE WE'RE STOPPING TO REDUCE ALL THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THERE AND MOVING TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION. I WOULD LOVE US TO BE IN THE ONE ALL ACROSS THE CITY AND LET PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTIES WITHOUT THE RED TAPE THAT WE SOMETIMES ARTIFICIALLY PUT ON THEM BUT FOR WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW I THINK ONE A IS A GREAT MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND I THINK AS THE CITY CHANGES AS WE HAVE MORE THINGS TO CONSIDER AND PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE WANT TO LIVE IN BOONTON THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUE WORK THROUGH THIS AND LOOK AT R ONE ZONING AGAIN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO E I THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I HAVE NOT HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES WHERE ALL THE THINGS I SAID IN PAST MEETINGS JUST KEPT COMING BACK IN THIS. IT'S INCREDIBLE. YOU'D THINK I'D BE IN THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME OR SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF I HERE'S THE HERE'S MY TAKE ON IT MY MY CHALLENGE WITH IS AND I'M NOT AGAINST SURE LET'S GO AHEAD AND AND PUSH ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS TO A HIGHER LEVEL I LOVE THAT CONCEPT RIGHT.  YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BEING NONCONFORMING WE WOULD HALF THE CITY WOULD BE NON-CONFORMING LIKE TOMORROW. RIGHT. SO WE'D HAVE A BIG BIG HURDLE TO GET OVER THAT IF WE PUSH THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THINK WE SHOULD IN THE TIME OF CLIMATE CHANGE . THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE IS THAT WE HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE. YOU HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS SERVICE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A STEEP OR ORDINANCE WE HAVE YOU KNOW BUT BUT ECOSYSTEMS ARE ECOSYSTEMS THEY ARE NOT INDIVIDUAL NATURAL.  WE HAVE TROUBLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND FRANKLY ALL OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE CONSISTENTLY LOOKED AT NATURAL RESOURCES AS INDIVIDUAL THING THAT CAN BE EXTRACTED AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND THE LINE TO WHERE IT DOESN'T CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE.  BUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T ASK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ASK A AN ECOSYSTEM TO ONLY CONSIDER YOU KNOW OH EVERY PROPERTY CAN HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OF UP TO X PERCENT.  OKAY BUT WHEN THE ECOSYSTEM BECOMES 50% COVERED THE ECOSYSTEM IS KIND OF SCREWED UP LIKE IT IS AND THAT'S WE GET HERE BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THEM THROUGH LENSES COMPONENTRY AS OPPOSED TO TAKING A STEP BACK AND LOOKING AT AS A SYSTEM AND THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY I HAVE BEEN PUSHING LIKE I HAVE AND SAYING THERE PLACES IN BLOOMINGTON WHERE WE'VE THESE ECOSYSTEMS STILL EXIST AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY KEEP AS ECOSYSTEMS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT THAT MANY AND SORRY THAT THOSE ECOSYSTEMS DON'T EXIST YOU KNOW OVER ON LIKE YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE AT 87TH AND EMERSON LIKE IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT DID BUT IT DOESN'T BECAUSE 50 YEARS AGO SOMEBODY DECIDED TO BULLDOZE THE AND MADE IT INTO A MANUFACTURED HOUSING SET OF LOTS.  THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE. SHOULDE KEEP REPEATING THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S ALREADY SKEWED. I MEAN MAYBE THE POINT WE'RE MAKING HERE IS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING BLOOMINGTON TO BE INFILL AND WE ARE GOING TO USE EVERY SINGLE SPACE HERE AND SO ECOSYSTEM BE THIS AREA IT'S ALREADY DONE IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT THIS AREA IS A CITY THAT WILL NOT HAVE.  BUT THEN WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON OUR NOT ON OUR PARKS AND ALL THE OTHER RECREATION AMENITIES WE HAVE BECAUSE LET'S JUST DO THAT THEN CAN BE CORUSCANT FOR ALL I CARE LIKE SORRY THAT NERD REFERENCE BUT THE THE FACT IS WE'VE DECIDED THAT ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF BEING BLOOMINGTON IS ITS PRESERVATION OF ITS NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A CHALLENGE FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S HARD. IT FEELS LIKE IT'S GOTTEN MORE COMPLICATED NOT LESS COMPLICATED BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE ARE AREAS ALONG THESE CORRIDORS WHICH ARE NOT FROM ME BUT BY THE DNR AND OTHER PLACES THREE RIVERS AND EVERYBODY THERE'S PLACES ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND WE'RE ALL THIS WORK IN MOYER PARK AND ALONG THE NINE MILE CREEK THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT TOPOLOGY ECOLOGY, GEOLOGY I'M, NOT TRYING TO RAP IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEY'RE DIFFERENT AND ARE WE GOING TO PRESERVE THEM OR AREN'T WE AND I'M THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET AT. AND SO IF YOU WERE ASKING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO ONE B OR TO B AND I WOULD LIKE US TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THESE ECOSYSTEMS AS ECOSYSTEMS AND ACTUALLY DEFINE WHAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE. THE SAME WAY THAT WE DID THE BLUFF WE THAT THING IS UNIQUE AND WE SHOULD HAVE A WAY TO DESCRIBE IT THAT'S SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM THE REST OF THE CITY. I THESE AREAS QUALIFY FOR THAT AND I'M SORRY THAT THEY WERE ZONING WAS USED AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER MECHANISM AND I'D BE OPEN TO NOT DOING ZONING AND DOING SOME OTHER MECHANISM IF THAT WAS APPROPRIATE BUT I RIGHT NOW THIS IS ALL WE HAVE AND SO IF WE WANTED TO GET TO SOMETHING ELSE I STILL AM SUGGESTING THAT AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFINED IN OUR S ONE AND FRANKLY I WOULD EXPAND IT AS YOU ALL KNOW THESE AREAS ARE THE AREAS THAT I THINK DESERVE A HIGHER LEVE PROTECTION AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON THAT BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD'S AT. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC ON THESE BEFORE WE GET TO VOTE ON IT LIKE IN FEBRUARY OR WHAT IS IS IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE PUBLIC AND WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT AND I KNOW I'M COPYING YOU ON THIS I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT IT AND TALK ABOUT THIS YEAH SO BUT THAT BE A WASTING TO DO I REALLY DON'T HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL THIS IS AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS DO BUT ON THAT SUBJECT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET ALL THESE THINGS ON A HARD COPY. SO I HAVE LOT EASIER FOR ME TO CARRY THEM AROUND AND READ THEM AS I GO ALONG SO THAT I CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO BE TALKING WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE BUT MY FIRST THING WILL BE THAT WE COULD MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT AGAIN.  I SUPPORT ONE B FROM JUST LOOKING AT IT BUT AGAIN I WILL REITERATE THAT I DON'T HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL THIS MEANS. I MADE THAT MUCH BUT THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS WITH HEARINGS AND ANY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH.  MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, THANKS FOR THOSE COMMENTS. SO WE CERTAINLY CAN TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO PURSUE ANY LEVEL OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.  YOU WANT US TO MAIL EVERY PROPERTY OWNER AND RESIDENT OF ALL HUNDRED AND 16 OF THOSE PROPERTIES WE WILL THE I REITERATE THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING A NUANCED AND WONKY IN THE WEEDS CONVERSATION ABOUT ZONING FOR MANY HOURS NOW AND SO I MEAN IMAGINE DUPLICATING THAT CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH ZONING AND THAT'S NOT NO DISPARAGEMENT IT'S JUST THAT WHO ARE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE REGULATORY CHANGES WE'RE CONTEMPLATING MAKING AND IT CAN CREATE SOME DIFFICULTY I GUESS I WOULD SAY WE WILL EXECUTE WHATEVER ENGAGEMENT WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU WANT TO. IT'S JUST IT TIME NUMBER ONE AND B SOMETIMES IT CAN UPSET PEOPLE FOR FOR NOT A TON OF VALUE ON THE BACK END OR EVEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. ONE OF THE REASONS WE RECOMMENDED ONE IS THAT WE AS A STAFF FELT COMFORTABLE THAT THE CHANGES NOT SO SIGNIFICANT AND DID NOT CREATE NON-CONFORMITY THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT THAT DIRECT ENGAGEMENT.  THAT'S A LINE THAT WE AS A STAFF AND OUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT WERE WILLING TO DRAW . SO HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON. SO COUNCIL HERE'S MY HERE'S MY TAKE ON THIS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR HOURS NOW OVER MONTHS NOW. IF NOT WE MIGHT BE UP TO A YEAR.  I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A WHILE. I THINK IT'S CLEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO CONSENSUS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE WE HAVE DIFFERING WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS AT DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE'RE NOT GOING COME TO THE CONSENSUS I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OR IF WE'RE MAKING A SIZABLE I WON'T SAY RADICAL BUT SIZABLE IMPACTFUL VERSUS JUST TRYING TO GET THINGS YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD ON THIS I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF WE IF WE WENT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF ONE A FOR THE REASONS THAT MR. JOHNSON LAID OUT NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH AS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TALKED ABOUT WE DON'T THEN HAVE A TON OF NON-CONFORMING PROPERTIES IN THE CITY AND AS MR. JOHNSON TALKED ABOUT JUST THE THE OVERALL BANG FOR THE BUCK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN YOU KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SMALL NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AFFECTED BY THIS AND MY THOUGHT IS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO CONSENSUS ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES I THINK RATHER THAN GETTING TO A POINT WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S TIME OUR TIME STAFF TIME GOES BY THE WAYSIDE, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A MODEST APPROACH OUTLINED IN ONE A AND TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT. COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN BACK OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU. MAYOR SO I'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO SIT HERE AND AN OPEN MIND AND LIKE LISTEN TO EVERYTHING SO WHEN I WHEN HEARD YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TALKING WHEN I WAS IMAGINING WAS LIKE US TAKING A STEP BACK AND LOOKING AT ALL LIKE YOU CAN LOOK AT A GOOGLE MAP AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT WHERE ALL THE PLACES ARE. THEY HAVE ALL TREES IN THE CITY AND ACTUALLY FIGURING OUT LIKE I DON'T KNOW I THINK OF IT AS LIKE CERTAIN AREAS ARE LIKE LIKE WE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREAS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION AREAS RIGHT AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME KIND OF CORRIDOR MAP THAT COULD ALSO GUIDE THAT BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION. IT'S NOT JUST THIS ONE, RIGHT ? IT'S A IT'S ABOUT LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND SAYING OKAY LIKE ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND NINE MILE SHOULD BE LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AREAS AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT GOING TO ASK I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE YOU SAID THROUGH ZONING OR THROUGH SOMETHING ELSE BUT NOT JUST LIMITED TO THESE LIKE HUNDRED AND 20 OR WHATEVER PROPERTIES IT IS.  AND SO IF WE WERE AND I SEE LIKE THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT LIKE LOOKING WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE DONE TO OVERLAY SOME KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ON THEIR ZONING OR AND MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING I DON'T KNOW I DON'T IT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIZE BUT AND YEAH SO IF THAT WERE A PARTNERSHIP WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND PLANNING OR SOMETHING AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A REALLY COOL PROJECT THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN I THINK WOULD GETTING MORE AT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERSUS JUST THIS LITTLE LITTLE TINY AREA OF BLOOMINGTON RIGHT?  SO WITH THAT SAID, I MEAN I WOULD BE FINE GOING WITH ONE EIGHT OR ONE B BUT I WOULD PREFER US HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION AROUND AND MAYBE AGAIN HAVE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE TO REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO YOU AND MAYBE AND MAYBE WE'RE ALREADY ALL THE THINGS MAYBE BECAUSE YOU SAID LIKE WE HAVE VERY STRONG STANDARDS MAYBE WE'RE ALREADY DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THAT SETTING WHO ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS BUT SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WHAT I WAS THAT'S WHERE MY THOUGHTS MR..  JOHNSON MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST SPEAK REALLY QUICKLY TO SAY ONE THING AND I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON ANY OF YOUR DISCUSSION BUT RIGHT NOW THE NATURAL RESOURCE STAFF IS ENGAGED IN KICKING OUT OR LAUNCHING THE URBAN FORESTRY PLAN AND.  I BELIEVE IT INVOLVES A CITYWIDE TREE INVENTORY SO THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BRING TO YOU A LOT MORE DATA AND OBVIOUSLY TREES ARE NOT THE ONLY OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DATA THAN WE'VE HAD BEFORE IN THE PAST AND YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE STAFF EXPERT IN THE ROOM ON THAT PROJECT AND MAYBE IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION FROM ON SOMEBODY.  SO JUST FOR TO BACK UP FOR A SECOND, REMEMBER WHY WE GOT HERE BECAUSE THE THING THAT ONE DOESN'T DO I DON'T THINK IS SOLVE THE PROBLEM WE WERE TRYING TO SOLVE ORIGINALLY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WHEN I SAY THE PROBLEM WE WERE TRYING TO SOLVE I MEAN LITERALLY THE PROBLEM WE WERE TRYING TO SOLVE WHICH WAS WE HAD THE FOLKS OF NORMAN RIDGE HERE REALLY THAT THEY COULDN'T GET PUT INTO OUR S-1 BECAUSE WOULDN'T PUT THEM IN RS1 TO GIVE THEM THESE PROTECTIONS AND THEY WERE AFRAID THAT WITH BEING AN R ONE THAT ALL OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES OF 22,000 OR 25,000 OR 33,000 SQUARE FEET WE'RE GOING TO GET CHOPPED BY GREEDY DEVELOPERS THAT WAS AND THAT'S THEIR WORDS NOT MINE.  I'M JUST USING IT AS THE CONTEXT. RIGHT. SO AND BY THE WAY THAT WAS JUST HAPPENED MAY OF 2023 SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S THAT OLD IT'S JUST THIS IS RECENT. RIGHT? SO SO THE POINT I'M MAKING ONE HE DOESN'T GET PASSING ONE DAY TO DAY DOESN'T SOLVE THAT GETTING GOING AND HAVING THIS BIG DISCUSSION THAT MIGHT TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS DOESN'T SOLVE THAT BECAUSE THEY'LL GET CHOPPED UP LONG BEFORE THAT HAPPENS POTENTIALLY.  I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL. I'M OF THE OPINION THAT EVEN THE ZONING CHANGES DID THE R ONE AREN'T MOVING FAST ENOUGH AND WE'RE NOT MAKING THE GAINS THAT WE WANT TO IN . SO THIS IS WHY I DIDN'T I DIDN'T APPROVE IT AND I DIDN'T IT IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE LEVEL WE NEEDED TO PULL. BUT THAT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE SO SO THE WE CAN WE CAN PASS ONE TODAY BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HELP THE PROBLEM WHICH IS IF IF THE FOLKS FROM NORMAN RIDGE CAME AND SAID TO NICK TOMORROW I WOULD LIKE TO PETITION THAT THIS AREA BE MOVED INTO S ONE HE WOULD DENY IT ON ON IF I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT WAS THE POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE SO I DON'T HAVE A 30 WELL RECORD.  MY POINT IS YOU WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT TO US AND MOST LIKELY MAYBE I WOULDN'T THE SUPPORT UP HERE I HAVE NO IDEA BUT THAT THAT THAT'S THE THING . SO THE REASON I'VE BEEN HARPING ON THIS IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE LETTER THAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND I FEEL A SENSE OF URGENCY AND EXPEDITIOUS NESS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I KNOW DEVELOPERS WANT THOSE PIECES OF LAND SPECIFICALLY.  I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT DOING IT CITYWIDE AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING.  BUT LET'S BE HONEST GUYS THEY'RE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET IT THOSE PIECES OF LAND AND I THINK THEY HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE. IT'S NOT THAT I WANT TO PRESERVE THE BENEFIT OF THESE HOMEOWNERS. IT'S NOT THAT IT'S THAT THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY'VE BEEN LEFT MORE NATURALLY AVAILABLE THAN THE REST OF BLOOMINGTON HAS.  SO YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DID WE PASSED TONIGHT IT ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT KIND OF BROUGHT THIS WHOLE THING UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THERE BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT WE CAN'T TAKE BACK. AND TO BE CLEAR, COUNCILMEMBER ,THIS IS A STUDY ITEM. WE'RE NOT PASSING ANYTHING TONIGHT. IT'S THERE. NO, I UNDERSTAND.  I UNDERSTAND STAFF RECOMMENDATION? YEP, FOR SURE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR TO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WAS POINT THAT SHE WOULD LIKE A DIFFERENT TOOL THAN ZONING I WOULD POINT OUT THAT ACCORDING TO THIS STEEP SLOPES ARE DEFINED BY CITY CODE . IT'S AN ORDINANCE NOT ZONING SIGNIFICANT NATURAL REVEGETATION IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY FORESTER NOT ZONING ITS CITY FOREST OR WETLANDS ARE DEFINED BY MINNESOTA RULES CHAPTER 420 STATE LAW WELL MANAGED AS WE'VE ABOUT ALREADY NOT ZONING THE ONLY THING THAT IS COVERED BY ZONING THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND SO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE ABOUT DOING THIS IN MORE AREAS AND PROTECTING AREAS AND WHY I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH ORDINANCES AS WE ARE DOING IT NOW WE SHOULD PROTECT ALL THOSE LIKE AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO USE ZONING TO GO IN AND REZONE SOUTH BROOK BECAUSE IT'S ORDERED BY A MARSH AND NINE MILE CREEK. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO IN AND REASON THAT AND THEN WHEN WE DO THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEM ALL SORTS OF NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE OF THE LARGE LOT OR THE LOT SIZE OF THAT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WE SHOULD DO IT ORDINANCE I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND IF WE WANT TO TIGHTEN UP THOSE ORDINANCES THOSE ORDINANCES WILL APPLY IMMEDIATELY TO ALL LOTS AND WE CAN PROTECT TREES, WE CAN PROTECT WATER AND YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S BE REAL. I MEAN THERE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT WATER RESOURCES IN NORMAN RICH.  THERE ISN'T SIGNIFICANT STEEP SLOPES IN NORMAN RIDGE. THERE'S THEY DON'T WANT SMALLER LOTS.  I GET IT DON'T SELL YOUROT THIS IS THE ZONING IS NOT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THIS.  I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES AND FIX THOSE TIGHTEN THOSE UP AS WE AS WE NEED TO TO MEET THE NEEDS AND THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY.  SO I FRANKLY I THINK WE ACTUALLY AGREE WAY MORE THAN IT SOUNDS LIKE UP HERE. SO COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND THEN LOOK, LET'S TRY TO GET TO A CONSENSUS HERE AT LEAST MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WE I MEAN THERE ARE GOOD ARGUMENTS ON EVERY SIDE AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION BUT AS I SAID IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND SIX MONTHS NOW OUR FOUR MONTHS WHATEVER IT'S BEEN AND WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.  WELL, MAYOR, LET'S START OFF WITH WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE.  I THINK YOU SAID YOU WERE TRYING TO GET TO CONSENSUS THERE WAS MAYBE TRYING TO DO ONE DAY. BUT WHAT I'M WHAT I'M HEARING IS AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER DELAHUNT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SOLVES  THE PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HOW SHE PUT IT FORWARD, THAT GROUP WAS HERE. I DO REMEMBER THEM BEING HERE AND SO I'M NOT UNSYMPATHETIC TO THAT. SO AND I GUESS THING IS I JUST DON'T REALLY WANT TO SEE IT MESS WITH US ON THIS ONE. BUT YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD COULD COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT SHE REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT TO DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, AND AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS WE TO EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH THIS. MAYBE WE JUST LEAVE THIS ALONE AND WE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE MORE FOCUSED ON THAT BECAUSE.  THAT IS AGAIN THAT'S EVEN MORE NARROW GROUP OF PEOPLE BUT SO I DON'T KNOW I MEAN CERTAINLY I'M WILLING HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ONE BIG IF IF THAT WOULD WOULD HELP TO GET THAT SITUATION RESOLVED AND I'M HAPPY WITH IT WITH THE ONE AIDE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT MUCH CHANGE IN IT BUT BUT I'M WANTING TO HELP MOVE THIS TO A CONCLUSION BUT I DON'T WANT TO RAILROAD MY MY COLLEAGUE HERE I THINK SHE'S GOT A GOOD YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN THAT GROUP WAS HERE WE TRY TO SOLVE THAT THIS DOESN'T DO THAT THE ONE WAY SO I'M OPEN TO WHAT WE GET THAT NOT THERE BUT MR. JOHNSON I THINK YOU HAD A SLIDE IN THERE THAT I MEAN WE WE CAN CHOOSE ONE OF OUR SIX OPTIONS HERE OR IF IF WE CAN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS I THINK I SAW SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING WOULD CONSIDER THIS TO BE CLOSED IN AND THINGS WOULD NOT CHANGE I MEAN IS THAT CORRECT ,MAYOR? IF THE IF A CONSENSUS IS NOT REACHED ON ONE OF THE SIX OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTING IT TO YOU, YOU COULD EITHER DEEM THE STUDY COMPLETE WOULD BE ONE OPTION OR YOU COULD GIVE US ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING. GOT IT. THE ONE THING I'D SAY AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING IS WE DO THINK THAT GOOD WORK HAS TAKEN PLACE HERE YOU KNOW, ADDING TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS, ELIMINATING SOME PREVAILING SETBACKS THAT'S POSITIVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THESE VERY LONG DRIVEWAYS AND SOME OTHER THINGS SO WE THINK GOOD WORK IS DONE AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU OPTION MOVE FORWARD AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT THAT I WOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD BUT IF IF WE GET A POINT WHERE WE JUST CAN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS HERE, I'M NOT SURE WHERE ELSE WE GO SO I'VE HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF FOLKS A FEELING TOWARD 1AI MEAN I'M LOOKING FOR NODDING HEADS TO SEE IF WE HAVE AT LEAST A CONSENSUS MOVING ON ONE A AND COUNCILMEMBER ONE I WANT TO WEIGH IN MORE THAN ONE THAT HONESTLY THERE WERE SO MANY IDEAS THROWN AROUND HERE I JUST FEEL SUPER CONFUSED AND I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T EVEN MAKE A DECISION AT THIS POINT IF I'M BEING REALLY HONEST LIKE IT'S LIKE GO ALL OUR ONE GO I MEAN LIKE IN BIG PICTURE LIKE SMALL LIKE I JUST SAID LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT LIKE WHAT THIS COUNCIL TRULY IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE HONESTLY LIKE 30 SECONDS COUNCIL MEMBER YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST THIS IS JUST FOR ME TO GIVE TO GIVE THE CLARITY. I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER SEEKING SO I'M FINE LIKE YES I WOULD SUPPORT SO I'M NODDING MY HEAD TO YOU MR. THAT I WOULD SUPPORT YOU GUYS GIVING DIRECTION TO ONE A BECAUSE I'M A BIG FAN OF SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT NONE OF THE A'S REQUIRED OUR PLANNING TO DO THAT ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS WORK AND I WANT THAT WORK DONE AND I WANT IT DONE FAST BECAUSE WE'RE UP AGAINST TIME WE'RE UP AGAINST LITERALLY TIME SO.  THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON I WAS SUPPORTING ONE OF THE B'S WAS BECAUSE IT REQUIRED THE TEAM TO GO DO THAT ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS WORK NOW WHICH WHICH IS IT IT IT COULD TO TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT THAT ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS WORK THEN COULD BE EXPANDED ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST GET DONE MORE QUICKLY IF IT DOESN'T GET DONE VIA THIS WHO KNOWS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITY LIST MAYBE WE WON'T GET TO IT TILL 2028 I DON'T KNOW LIKE AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR SENSE OF URGENCY ON THAT I'M FINE WITH ONE IN TWO TO CUT THIS THING OFF IF YOU'RE ABOUT HURT MY FEELINGS ONE DAY IS FINE FOR ME.  I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT US TO CHOOSE THIS ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS BECAUSE AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON POINTED OUT WE HAVE ONE OF EVERYTHING FOR EACH ONE OF THEM BUT THERE'S NOTHING LOOKING AT THEM IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER TO SAY IF TWO OR THREE OF THESE THINGS ARE MET IN A CERTAIN THRESHOLD THIS IS IMPORTANT AN ECOSYSTEM AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I HOPE THAT'S CLARIFICATION.  SORRY FOR THE I DON'T KNOW SORRY FOR THE MESS EARLIER .  SO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION COUNCIL.  I MEAN DO DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD?  I WOULD HESITATE TO SEND IT BACK TO STAFF AGAIN BECAUSE MY GOODNESS SPENT THEY'VE SPENT THE TIME ON THIS AND THEY'VE GOT THE RECOMMENDATION FORWARD AND AND WE COULD AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO CHEW ON THIS BUT.  I ALSO BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IF WE CONTINUE TO CHEW ON THIS I MEAN IF IF WE DON'T GET ANYTHING DONE, WE JUST WE DON'T GET ANYTHING DONE.  SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, IF COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WANTED TO JOIN, I'D DO THREE BE IT REDUCES THE LOT SIZE I'D ACTUALLY REDUCE TO THE SAME AS OUR ONE AND I DO THIS AGAINST ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND I WOULD GO THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE IT TAKES OFF THE LARGE SIZE THING WHICH IS MY BIG HANG UP.  I GOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU NO ONE'S GOING TO REZONE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT TO PROTECT THEIR LOT SIZES.  SO COUNCIL WE'RE BACK TO ORIGINAL QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SUGGESTED THREE B DO I SEE FOUR NODDING HEADS FOR THREE B SO SORRY MR. MAYOR THE DIRECTION WORKS FINE FOR ME. I CAN BE CANDID WITH YOU AND TELL YOU THAT THE PART OF THE BIG PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS MEANS BECAUSE LAST TIME W HAD THIS CONVERSATION I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS ASKING FOR IT. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE NOTES THAT YOU KNOW MR. NICK PUT TOGETHER FOR US AND SO WILL WE COME TO A SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS?  HAVE NO IDEA. SO ULTIMATELY YOU JUST SPOKE IN FAVOR OF ADVANCE ENVIRONMENTAL? I DO. I ADDITIONALLY I AM AND SO THE POINT I'M MAKING IS SIMPLY THAT THAT LIKE WE COULD DO THIS AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COULD GET HIS LOT SIZE AND THEN HE AND I COULD GO TOE TO TOE ON ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND NEVER COME TO CONSENSUS. DOES SO SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S MY POINT IS LIKE FINE EITHER WAY EITHER WAY RIGHT YOU KNOW SO FEEL FREE I AT THIS POINT I SHOULD PROBABLY JUST ABSTAIN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I, I FEEL LIKE I CAN CAN NOTHING IN HERE ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE IS AND IT'S BACK TO MY MY POINT ORIGINALLY THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK WE'RE GOING TO REACH CONSENSUS ON THIS SO SO THEN THE QUESTION IS DO WE SEND IT BACK TO STAFF DO WE DO NOTHING HERE OR WE DO BASICALLY THE ONE AID WHICH IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF THAT WE COULD DO WITHOUT YOU KNOW, IMPACTING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. JOHNSON TALKING ABOUT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID BEFORE KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE AIDE BUT THEN THE NEXT CONVERSATION IS WHAT ARE ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND WHAT ARE COMMUNITIES DOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE IMPROVING THE ENVIRONMENT THROUGH AND WHETHER IT'S HAPPENING OR WHATEVER DISTRICTS I DON'T KNOW. BUT LIKE SO COULD WE COULD WE AGREE ON ONE A AND DIRECT STAFF TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL AND WHETHER IT TAKES I DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE THREE YEARS OR STAFF THERE BETTER THAN THAT BUT ALTHOUGH THE DISCUSSION MIGHT TAKE NO I KNOW A DISCUSSION THEY MAY TAKE THREE YEARS I MEAN I WOULD I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT IF WE WENT WITH ONE EIGHT AND THEN TRIED TO CLARIFY ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT EITHER THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND THEN ULTIMATELY BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER.  AND SO I THINK I THINK COUNCILMAN RECORDER'S REALLY KIND OF IS I THINK REALLY FRAMING THIS WELL BUT THE THING I REALLY WANT TO I THINK THE SENSE URGENCY THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA IS TALKING ABOUT I WITH HER THERE IS A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT CAME BEFORE US AND I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING A RESOLUTION ON THAT AND SO YOU KNOW, I COULD SUPPORT THAT IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE DEFINITION ON THAT ON THAT TIMESCALE WHEN WE GET BACK TO BECAUSE I DO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SENDING IT OFF IN END TO THE NETHERLANDS NOW I UNDERSTAND BY SAYING THAT THAT THAT MEANS IT'S GOING TO HAVE A CONSEQUENCE EITHER IF WE HAVE IT IN PLANNING OR IF WE HAVE AN SUSTAINABILITY THAT'S GOING TO BUMP SOME OF THE STUFF OFF OF BUT YEAH BUT THAT'S HOW I COULD GET TO SUPPORTING THAT AND WE COULD DIRECT BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION INCLUDE IT IN THEIR 2025 WORK PLAN. I MEAN REASONABLY THAT'S THE TIME FRAME.  I THINK THAT'S ALL A REASONABLE LIST. I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY REASONABLE THING. I MEAN IF MY COLLEAGUE WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT I WOULD I COULD SUPPORT THIS ONE AND WE GET THIS DONE TONIGHT OR GIVE DIRECTION THE DIRECTION.  THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE WITH.  ME AND TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.  WE COME BACK WITH A WITH A REQUEST TO ELIMINATE RS ONE ALTOGETHER ASSUMING WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT STILL GIVES US THE PROTECTIONS WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO WE MIGHT GET TO THAT END POINT ANYWAY.  SO UNLESS SOMEBODY THROWS SOMETHING AT ME I'M GOING TO DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE A AND THEN THAT WE LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND WE MAKE THAT PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION'S WORK PLAN FOR 2025 AND MAKE IT PART OF THE WORK PLAN FOR 2025 SO IT DOESN'T GET DRAWN OUT TOO FAR AND WE WE HEAD DOWN THAT PATH AND SEE WHERE WE END UP AND AGAIN UNLESS I SEE A WATER BOTTLE FLYING AT MY HEAD, THAT'S WHEN I'M GOING TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.  VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MAYOR.  THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT .  AND IF I POINT TO COUNCIL AND IT IS 9:00 NOW SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 9:00 AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF A BIGGER ITEMS AHEAD OF US STILL INCLUDING COUPLE OF THE THREE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. SO MR. SAMUELSON IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER SMALL THING THE SOUTH LOOP DEVELOPMENT PLAN ITSELF WHOSE DISTRICT PLAN UPDATE  COMPLETE GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD NIGHT AMINO THEY'RE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. YEAH ITEM IS THE STUDY SESSION LOOKING AT THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN AS YOU PROBABLY ALL ARE AWARE IT WAS A LAST ADOPTED OR IT WAS ADOPTED ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2012. THIS IS PART OF THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN THE SCOPE OF WORK TO JUST LOOK AT THOSE OR WHAT LOOK TO IMPLEMENTING PRIORITY UPDATES THAT'S BOLDED AND UNDERLINED ALL. I'LL DESCRIBE MORE WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT LATER IN PRESENTATION BUT PART OF THAT SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES NOT ONLY UPDATING SOME OF THE FACTS AND FIGURES, SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE THE DOCUMENT BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR INSTANCE AND IDENTIFYING PROPOSING NEW PROJECTS BUT YOU KNOW BRINGING THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE FORWARD TO BE CONSIDERED THAT ARE IN LINE WITH CURRENT CITY PRIORITIES MAY BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE DISTRICT PLANS IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE PLANNING WORK THAT USUALLY HAPPENS YOU'LL SEE HOW THEY'VE DISTRICT PLAN FITS WITHIN THE SPECTRUM OF PLANS ON THE RIGHT SIDE THEY'RE SUBSERVIENT TO THE PLAN BUT THEY AND THEY PROVIDE MORE DETAIL BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE FOCUSED ON US BECAUSE THEY'RE FOCUSED ON A SMALLER AREA AND THEY CAN ESTABLISH GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES OF THAT SMALLER AREA. SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING USUALLY ACCOMPLISHED AT THE CITYWIDE LEVEL FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND SO FITS NEATLY WITHIN THAT BUT IT IS SUBSERVIENT TO THE COMPLETE COMPREHENSIVE SO IT CAN'T OVERRIDE ANY OF THE POLICIES EXPRESSED IN THAT.  WHY THE UPDATE IT'S BEEN 12 YEARS. THERE'S A LOT THAT'S CHANGED. THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT'S PASSED THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION. DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE CHANGED THE REAL REAL ESTATE MARKET HAS SHIFTED AND THAT'S MOST NOTABLE IN THE OFFICE SECTOR. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH LOOP SO GOOD TO PROBABLY TAKE A TAKE STOCK OF THAT AND INCLUDE THAT WITHIN THE PLAN AND SEE HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE OUR VISION FOR IT. WELL NOT OUR VISION. THE VISION WHERE WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT BUT HOW IT MAY INFLUENCE SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD ENDORSE FOR THE SOUTH LOOP THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENTS WE'VE NEW STAFF AND RESOURCES THAT ARE INTEGRAL TO THE TO THE PLAN THAT WEREN'T THERE AT THE ORIGINAL TIME OF THE ADOPTION SUSTAINABILITY AND CREATE CREATE A PLACE TO CREATE A PLACEMAKING SORRY A LITTLE TONGUE TIED WE NOW HAVE STAFF AND EXPERTS IN THOSE AREAS SO . IT'D BE GOOD TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEIR ADVICE ON THE UPDATES THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. AND YEAH LIKE I MENTIONED THERE'S A LOT OF NEW PLANS THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED SINCE 2012 SO WE SHOULD ALSO INCORPORATE A LOT OF THAT INTO OR THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS INTO THIS UPDATE AN OVERVIEW OF THE THE ORIGINAL DISTRICT PLAN IS THAT IT GUIDED DEVELOPMENT AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS OVER DECADES UP UNTIL 2050 SO IT'S A PRETTY LONG TIME HORIZON.  IT'S STRUCTURED ITSELF AROUND FOUR KEY ELEMENTS OR SIGNATURE . LINDA LANE 24TH AVENUE WHICH YOU KNOW RUNS EAST THE MALL OF AMERICA. IT'S A PRETTY BIG AVENUE 34TH AN AMERICAN. THE PLAN KIND OF DESCRIBES MAKING THAT AS LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF NOTED AND THE BLUFF EDGE AREA THAT'S THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND RECREATION IN THE AREA WHICH ARE HEAVY DRAWS THE RESIDENTS AND FOR EACH OR YEAH FOR EACH SIGNATURE ELEMENT IT JUST DISCUSSES IN THE CONTEXT OF LAND USE TRANSPORTATION SUSTAINABILITY AND AND YET IT GUIDING THE DOCUMENT AND THE IDENTIFICATION OF THOSE AREAS IS THE VISION AND GOALS OF THE ORIGINAL ADOPTED IN 2012 AND I'VE BOLDED WORDS WITHIN THAT VISION THAT GUIDE THE THE POLICIES AND THE PROJECTS OF IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN. SO IT'S A TRANSFER TO TRANSFORM A DISPERSED SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AREA INTO A WALKABLE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.  SO A LOT OF THE PROJECTS ARE STRUCTURED TO ADVANCE TOWARDS THAT VISION AND THE GUIDED LAND USE FOR THE AREA ALSO IMPLEMENTS THAT VISION. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOR THE LAND USE IN THE AREA WE HAVE THE LINDOW MIXED USE, WE HAVE THE INTENSITY MIXED USE WHICH IS IS THE THE THE AIRPORT PROTECTION ZONE SO THAT HAS RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE POSSIBILITIES AND THAT'S PRIMARILY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT ON THE WEST SIDE HAVE THE MALL OF AMERICA AND YOU HAVE THE HIGH INTENSITY MIXED USE BUT YEAH THAT'S PRIMARILY CONSUMED BY THE MALL OF AMERICA AND THEN THE SOUTH IS WHERE YOU SEE THE ESTABLISHED AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH ARE MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN AS IS THIS IS THE THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THAT GUIDED LAND USE I HAVE A TABLE THAT'S COMPARING THE THE VERY UNIQUE GUIDED LAND USES FOR THE AREA AND THAT THEY HAVE A CORRESPONDING ZONING DISTRICT. WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE IN DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE TO SCHEDULE THIS KICKED OFF IN JULY SO WE'RE IN THE FIRST ROUND OF STUDY SESSIONS IN OCTOBER AND DONE SOME RESEARCH AND EVALUATION THAT INCLUDED LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT AND AS A TEAM WE HAVE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE TEAM THAT COVERS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTIZE THAT BRINGING TO BEAR TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY AS THEY ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S PRIORITIES AND THE EXPERTIZE THAT WILL YOU KNOW GET THE IN PLACE TO BE ADOPTED BY HOPEFULLY BY APRIL . THAT'S WHAT WE PROJECTED FOR THIS PROJECT APRIL OF NEXT YEAR YOU'LL SEE ON THE VERY RIGHT OF THAT THAT SCHEDULE PROJECT ON FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS THE IDEA IS WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE HOPING TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT WE CAN INCLUDE ON FUTURE SHIPS. SO THAT'S A BIG GOAL FOR FOR THIS UPDATE PROCESS ENGAGEMENT WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE DONE ONE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EVENT BACK IN AUGUST MUSIC IN THE PARK WE SET UP A BOOTH WE HAD RESIDENTS OR JUST ANYONE ATTENDING COME UP AND TALK TO US AND ASK US WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE SOUTH LOOP AND ENGAGE THEM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT OUR YOU KNOW WE'RE HOPING TO GET OF THIS PROJECT AND WE GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK.  IT WAS I THINK IT WAS ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE MOSTLY INTO THE MUSIC. I CAN'T FAULT THEM BUT NONETHELESS WE HAD SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS SO  WE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT AND THEN WE HAVE A LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON PAGE WHERE WE'VE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK. YOU SHOULD SEE THAT AND ONE OF THE EXHIBITS EXHIBIT NINE THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING EMAILS CONCERNING THIS PROJECT AND THE SOUTH LOOP WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE SOUTH OF AREA. SO JUST SENDING OUT EMAILS AND KEEPING THEM ABREAST OF THIS PROJECT AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS OVER THE PAST MONTH HAD A CREATIVE PLACEMAKING ON OCTOBER 7TH,  OCTOBER 2ND SORRY AND A PLANNING COMMISSION WE'VE HAD WE HAD SUSTAINABILITY PORT AUTHORITY IN THE SAME EVENING THAT WAS THAT WAS AN INTERESTING I'VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE SO THAT'S NEW BUT IT WAS QUITE A MARATHON. I SURVIVED IT. I SHOULD GET A T-SHIRT WE WILL HAVE A PARKS COMMISSION MEETING IN DECEMBER AS WELL AND THAT'S WE'LL ALSO CORRESPOND WITH THE SECOND ROUND OF STUDY SESSION MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW THROUGH THESE TALKS AND OUR OUR RESEARCH AND OF THE DOCUMENT AS IT CURRENTLY IS STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A SET OF PRIORITY AREAS IN WHICH WE WANT TO EVALUATE THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND SIFT THROUGH WHICH ONES WILL HAVE THE MOST POSITIVE IMPACT.  SO THE PRIORITY OR AREAS THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED OR THE PROJECT TEAM HAS IS UPDATING THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE FRAMEWORK THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PLAN BUT IT HAS IT'S THAT'S HAS SHIFTED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2021 MASTER PLAN FROM PARKS.  THERE'S TRANSPORTATION UPDATES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT INCORPORATING AND GETTING THAT BROUGHT UP TO DATE WITHIN THIS THIS UPDATE EFFORT. WE WANT TO CLARIFY DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND GUIDANCE FOR THE AREA THAT MIGHT INCLUDE LOOKING LAND USE AND ZONING SO WE'LL SEEING IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS EFFORT.  ANOTHER PRIORITY AREA IS STREETSCAPES PLAZAS AND OTHER PUBLIC SPACES. WE WANT TO JUST EVALUATE TO SEE WITH HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE 2012. THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF OPEN SPACES IN PUBLIC PLACES THAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY ARE OPERATING YOU KNOW THE INTENT THAT WAS EXPRESSED BACK IN 2012. SO WE WANT TO EVALUATE THAT AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY UPDATES AGAIN WE DIDN'T HAVE SUSTAINABILITY STAFF BACK IN 2012. WE HAVE THEM NOW SO LET'S MAKE USE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING ACHIEVABLE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.  SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING IN CONCERT WITH SUSTAINABILITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE DOCUMENT IS AND TO MAKE A MOST IMPACTFUL UPDATES TO IT.  AND WE KNOW AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE DID HOLD A STATE SESSION IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION BACK ON THE 10TH AS YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THOSE BULLET POINTS THEY OBSERVED THAT WALKABILITY HAS YOU KNOW, SINCE 2012 HAS BEEN LACKING OR THAT'S THERE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR OBSERVATION. YOU KNOW THERE'S LARGE BLOCKS, THERE'S FEW DESTINATIONS, THERE'S MAJOR ARTERIALS THAT PRESENT BARRIERS ACCESSING OTHER DESTINATIONS WITHIN THE SOUTH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NOTED THEY SEEM PRETTY ADAMANT THAT GROUND GROUND LEVEL RETAIL IS AN IMPORTANT FEATURE THAT'S MISSING FROM SOME PORTIONS OF SOUTH LOOP. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TON ON THE WEST SIDE IN THE MALL OF AMERICA BUT IT'S PRETTY IT'S PRETTY ABSENT ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE ABSENCE IS NOTABLE AND THEY THOUGHT OR BASED ON STAFF'S RECOLLECTION OF THEIR DISCUSSION THAT YOU KNOW, GROUND OR THOSE TYPES OF USES ACTIVATE THE STREETSCAPE AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE WALKABILITY AND FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN SOUTH LOOP AND THEY THOUGHT IT BEST TO REALLY RUN ON THE UNIQUENESS OF SOUTH LOOP AND LEVERAGE THAT TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT AND VISITORS. SO YOU HAVE THE BLUFFS YOU HAVE THIS UNIQUE COMMUNITY IN , THIS PART OF BLOOMINGTON AND THIS PART OF THE METRO TRYING TO WORK WITH THAT IN ORDER TO RAISE ITS PROFILE SO THAT ATTRACTS MORE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT MATTER.  SO QUESTIONS FOR YOU THAT STAFF HAVE DEVELOPED ARE ARE THE FOLLOWING ARE THERE ANY PRIOR PRIORITY AREAS MISSING FROM STAFF'S LIST?  IF SO, WHAT SHOULD BE ADDED? I SHOULD NOTE THAT IF YOU IF YOU ANOTHER PRIORITY THAT IS THAT THAT WILL ADD TO THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND THAT'S APPROPRIATE MAYBE FOR THIS UPDATE BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ADDING ANOTHER PRIORITY AREA WILL HAVE A COMMENSURATE AMOUNT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND PERHAPS THE PRIORITY AREAS WE'VE DEVELOPED ARE APPROPRIATE ENOUGH BUT THAT'S FOR YOU DECIDE SHOULD ANY PRIORITY AREAS BE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION IS THERE YOU KNOW JUST NOTING STAFF'S RESOURCES AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IF IF YOU'D RATHER US FOCUS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF AREAS PLEASE LET US KNOW ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO OR INVESTMENTS IN THE SOUTH LOOP THAT HAVE OCCURRED WHICH YOU FEEL ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY?  WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THAT WILL GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ABOUT HOW TO MAYBE STRUCTURE SOME OF THE UPDATES THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED NEXT APRIL OR ADOPTED NEXT YEAR AS PART OF THIS UPDATE AND GIVEN HOUSING NEEDS AND COMPETING PRIORITIES THERE'S A LOT OF THEM. WHAT IS YOUR PATIENCE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN WRITTEN VERSUS RESPONDING TO MARKET DEMANDS OR YOU KNOW SHIFTING DEMANDS OVER TIME? SO THAT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND IT'S THANKS FOR MAKING ME FEEL OLD BECAUSE I WAS IN THE COUNCIL WHEN THE FIRST PLAN CAME ABOUT AND YOU'RE WELCOME IN 2012 BUT I APPRECIATE AND I APPRECIATE OBVIOUSLY THE NEED FOR THE UPDATE AND THE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE SO MUCH HAS CHANGED JUST IN GENERAL AND I MEAN IN THE WORLD IN BUT CERTAINLY OVER THERE AND DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.  I'VE GOT A LIST OF THINGS THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH JUST TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED AND IF WANTED TO JUMP IN THEY CERTAINLY COULD AND THEY KIND OF SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS BUT THEY BASICALLY ARE KIND OF MY THOUGHTS AS I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR A WHILE. I THINK ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OVER THERE IS THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE AND SHOULD CONTINUE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING WORLD OVER THERE TO DEVELOP A CONSISTENT THREAD I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL WHETHER IT'S IN THAT AREA IN PARTICULAR OR OR ACROSS THE CITY. I MEAN THE ONE THAT JUMPS TO MIND IS IS WITH THE BIRD, YOU KNOW, DO WE DO WE MAKE OTHER BIRD ACROSS THE CITY WITHIN YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF THING? DO WE DO WE CAN FIND A CREATIVE THREAD THAT WE CAN AND BRING MOVING TOGETHER IN THAT WAY I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB TO FIND WAYS TO INTERCONNECT THE BUSINESSES OVER THERE. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BODIES OVER THERE NOW AND I MEAN AN INCREASING NUMBER OF BODIES THAT WORK OVER THERE. HOW DO WE MAKE THEM PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW DO WE HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE THAN A PLACE WHERE THEY DRIVE TO IN THE MORNING AND THEN GO HOME FROM IN THE AFTERNOON AND WHAT CAN WE DO OUT IN ORDER TO RESIDENCY OVER THERE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HANG OUT TO DO MORE AND NOT NECESSARILY GO OVER TO THE MALL OF AMERICA AND DO MORE BUT HANG OUT IN THEIR AREA IN THAT AREA I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF UTILIZING A COUPLE OF THINGS THE PUBLIC THAT ARE OVER THERE AND IN CONNECTION TO THAT THE LRT WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WAYS THAT OUR LRT STRUCTURE A NATURAL PLACE FOR FOR FOR THINGS FOR BUSINESSES FOR RESIDENTS FOR YOU KNOW A BREWERY I MEAN THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S IT'S A NATURAL SPOT FOR PEOPLE TO GET OFF THE TRAIN AND TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING AND WE'VE GOT TO LOOK FOR A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT. AND THEN I THINK WE'VE GOT TO OPEN SPACES THERE. BUT THEY'RE KIND OF PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND WE CERTAINLY THE RIVER VALLEY WELL WE DON'T HAVE OVER THERE AS A BLOOMINGTON CITY PARK YOU A A PICKLEBALL COURT OVER THERE A YOU KNOW SOMETHING TO FOR BOTH AGAIN THE BUSINESSES AND THE RESIDENTS WE HAVE A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVING OVER THERE NOW TO WHO I'M SURE I KNOW THEY ENJOY THE OPEN SPACE AND THE GREEN SPACE AND THE GRASS BUT EITHER TO GET THEM ENGAGED IN THAT WAY AS WELL. SO I THINK TO INCORPORATE AND INCORPORATE A CITY PARK SO I JUST WENT THROUGH I MEAN THAT INCLUDES CREATIVE PLACEMAKING PARKS PLANNING I GUESS THROUGH LRT OUR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOLKS AND ALL OF THAT AND THEN I ALSO HAVE WRITTEN DOWN HERE PUT A DOG PARK OVER THERE SOMEONE'S FOR GOD SAKE PUT A DOG PARK OVER THERE AND IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS AND I THINK NOTHING BRINGS THE COMMUNITY BETTER THAN A DOG BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. SO SO THOSE ARE JUST MY RAMBLINGS AND THOUGHTS AND THINGS THAT I'VE COME UP.  WE'LL WORK OUR WAY RIGHT DOWN CARTER MORE AND THEN DALLESSANDRO AND ANYBODY ELSE IN BETWEEN?  THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ON THE PARKS COMMENT I THINK JUST LAST WEEK RESPONDING TO A WOMAN WHO WORKS AT KENNEDY AND WAS WORKING WITH THE STUDENT AND HIS FEEDBACK FOR US WAS THAT WE DON'T ANY PARKS IN SOUTH LOOP WHERE HE LIVES IN ONE OF THE APARTMENTS AND SO SHE SENT US AN EMAIL AND LET US KNOW THAT AND COME TO FIND OUT LIKE YEAH THERE REALLY ARE NO PARKS OR PLAYGROUNDS AND SO SO I AGREE WITH THAT AND THEN I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SAID AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS JUST I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THIS BIG ECONOMIC STUDY HAPPENING AND SO I KNOW THAT WILL BE CITYWIDE BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A MAJOR AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR US AND SO HOW DOES THAT KIND OF INTERWEAVE WITH THIS UPDATE FOR THIS PLAN COUNCILMEMBER FREEMAN I'M GOING TO HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD AGAIN WITH THE PARKS PIECE BECAUSE I DID RESPOND I HAD A CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION WITH THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENT WHO EMAILED ABOUT THE NOT HAVING PARKS IN THE SOUTH LOOP AND EVERYONE I HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY AND THAT IS A FOCUS FOR AND NOT HAVING A WALKABLE PARK SPECIFICALLY WALKABLE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND I THINK WE COULD REALLY CHALLENGE OURSELVES TO THINK ABOUT AN URBAN PARK THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE LOOP. YES WE'D LOVE TO HAVE TREES BUT IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH AN URBAN PARK THAT HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL THAT MATCHES THE SOUTH LOOP I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT THE SECOND PIECE REALLY FALLS WITH THE BUSINESS SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT.  I'M PARTICULARLY DISAPPOINTED THAT JACKSONVILLE'S MOVED IN AND THEN IN MONTHS THEY WERE GONE AND I WENT THERE LITERALLY A WEEK AND A HALF AFTER THE OPEN AND I TALKED TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES.  THEY SAID IT'S BEEN DEAD . I ASKED WAS THERE ANY MARKETING THERE ANYTHING DONE TO TO LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW THAT WE'RE OPEN AND WE'RE WE'RE READY TO DO THIS? AND IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING WAS DONE.  SO WHAT CAN WE DO AS A CITY TO SUPPORT IF WE'RE GOING TO WORK TO INCLUDE MORE WALKABLE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT SERVICES SO THAT THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL SO THEY DON'T JUST OPEN UP SHOP, NO ONE SHOWS UP AND THEN THEY CLOSE.  SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOCUS ON IS LET'S BUILD THE SPACE BUT THEN SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, SIR. YES SO PARKS ARE IN PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS PLUS ONE FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY. I ALSO HEARD FROM THAT RESIDENT I THINK WE ALL DID AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. YOU KNOW, I I HAVE TAKEN A SWING ON THE SWING THAT'S IN BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION BUT THAT'S NOT A PLAYGROUND. RIGHT. SO I GET IT. IT IS FUN THOUGH. YOU SHOULD DO IT.  I ALSO AGREE THAT YOU KNOW TWO STOPS RATE I THINK OF ANYTIME I THINK OF LONDON AND MY TIME OVER THERE THE BEST THING PEOPLE DO THEY GET QUITE HAPPY AND THEN JUMP ON THE TUBE AND GO HOME RIGHT SO LIKE LET'S GET THAT DONE. ABSOLUTELY.  THERE'S THIS I DON'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT THIS IS AN ADDED BUT MAYBE A SPECIFIC SPECIFIC CONCEPT TO CONSIDER AS PART OF ONE OF THESE OTHER PRIORITIES WHICH IS I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A POINT OF VIEW ABOUT WHAT WE WHAT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THE FARM AND.  WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SEEING IF THOSE PEOPLE FINALLY SOLD THAT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T CERTAIN THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS CONDITIONS OR SALE BECAUSE IT MEETS WITH BOTH THE SOUTH LOOP'S ECONOMIC BUT ALSO THE SUSTAINABILITY POSITION SO I JUST WE WE KIND OF DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT IT BUT IT'S SUCH A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT BLUFF INTERFACE BETWEEN THE RIVER AND THE SOUTH LOOP AREA AND I THINK IT'S WORTH A CONSIDERATION.  I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AND I DON'T TO IMPLY I MEAN WE BUY IT I DON'T KNOW LIKE WHATEVER LIKE WE COULD TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE ABOUT THIS AND THEN THE I, I WANTED TO JUST PUT A PLUS ONE BESIDE THIS IS THE STATE ABILITY TEAMS I LOVE THE IDEA AND I EVEN SAID IT WAY BACK WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN I FIRST GOT IN COUNCIL THE OF SOME KIND OF A SELF-CONTAINED ENERGY SYSTEM IN THE SOUTH LOOP I LOVE THE IDEA AND I YOU KNOW WORK LIKE THING PROBABLY NOT WORTH IT BUT GEOTHERMAL OR SOLAR OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT THAT REALLY MAKES IT LOOK A 21ST CENTURY URBAN SCAPE.  SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE KIND OF IN HERE THAT I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT.  ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD PUT IN HERE IS THAT AND MAYBE THIS IS KIND TO COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS POINT AND SOMETHING YOU'LL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT AS WE GO INTO PRIORITIES FOR NEXT YEAR AND MAYBE WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS A WHOLE IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY BUILDING TO SUIT AROUND HERE VERY WELL NOW WE HAD WE HAD A HATCH BLOOMINGTON PROGRAM THAT SHOWED UP AND I THINK FIVE OR SIX I CAN'T QUITE REMEMBER BUT I WAS A JUDGE FOR THAT FIVE, SIX, TEN MAYBE OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECTS WERE ALL RESTAURANTS AND WE HAVE NOBODY WILLING TO BUILD THE SUIT FOR RESTAURANTS AROUND HERE AND THEN WE EXPECT THE RESTAURANT OWNER SMALL GUY TRYING TO START UP TO GO THROUGH WHAT IS HIGHLY ONEROUS RIGHT ARE INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS ON GREASE TRAPS AND YOU KNOW SMELL ORDINANCE AND EXHAUST SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, INDOOR GARBAGE AND YOU KNOW ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? GET GET SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD THE SUIT AND AND THEN WE YOU LITERALLY COULD KNOCK THEM DOWN AS FAST AS YOU STOOD THEM UP WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD RESTAURANTS IN THE CITY. SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AS A AS A PRIORITY AND THAT'S KIND OF IN LINE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN COUNCILMEMBER I THINK WOULD BE GREAT THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WAS POINT AND I FORGOT TO A DISTRICT ENERGY PLAN FOR THAT AREA I THINK WOULD BE A NO BRAINER. SO COUNCILMEMBER RIVA SAID YES . JUST A QUICK COMMENT PART I AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYBODY. A PARK IN THERE WOULD BE AWESOME AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS JUST LET THE MARKET DICTATE WHERE YOU GUYS TO ORDER RATHER THAN TO THE PLAN. I GUESS LIKE EVERYBODY SAYING THE MARKET CHANGED AND PEOPLE BUILD DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE THAT RATHER THAN STICKING TO THAT WAS PLANNED YEARS AGO THAT'S MY OPINION. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN I'LL JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YOU CAN LEAVE THE STAFF PRIORITY UP HERE TOO BUT GIVEN THE HOUSING NEEDS PORTION WHAT'S THE DEMANDS?  I THINK THAT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE ATTUNED TO THE MARKET YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK WE'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO WHAT THE MARKET IS KIND OF SAYING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE ADD TO THAT WHEN WE DO THAT, I THINK WE REALLY CAN KIND OF LEVERAGE WHAT'S ALREADY TAKING PLACE THERE AND THEN KIND OF HELP WITH OUR PRIORITIES KIND OF GO WHERE THAT WHERE THE WHERE THE PUCK IS AS YOU MIGHT SAY, IF I GO BACK TO THIS OTHER QUESTION HERE, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES THE INVESTMENT IN THE SOUTH LOOP THAT OCCURRED WHICH YOU FEEL ARE INCONSISTENT?  THE PLAN I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN I THINK IT'S IT'S TOUGH. YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU WE ONCE YOU KIND OF MAKE THOSE PLANS AND YOU PUT THE MONEY IN THERE SOMETIMES THE MARKET HAS CHANGED. SO I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S HARD TO KIND IT'S HARD TO KIND OF TIME THOSE THINGS SOMETIMES. SO YOU JUST KIND OF KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE LOOKING AT THE STAFF OF PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST. YEAH. LET ME GET TUNING IN HERE.  SO I GUESS THE ONE THING THAT I KEEP HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE JUST THIS IDEA OF TRYING TO BREAK DOWN BARRIERS AND CONSTRAINTS THAT EITHER DEVELOPERS HAVE OR HAVE FROM TRYING TO UTILIZE THE UTILIZE THE SPACE.  AND I DON'T KNOW I THINK THE YOU KNOW, THE VISION'S KIND OF THERE BUT THE QUESTION I KIND OF ASK MYSELF I LOOK AT THE NORTH LOOP AND THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF WORK AND I THINK ABOUT HOW THOSE KNOW HOW THE BUILDINGS YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY HAVE KIND OF TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF KIND OF THE SMALLER BUILDINGS THOSE ARE BEING REDEVELOPED AND THOSE SPACES ARE ACTIVATED. SO WHEN YOU LEAVE WORK YOU CAN OF GO OUT THERE AND HAVE THESE EXPERIENCES. THEY'VE GOT FOOD THERE, THEY'VE GOT CLOTHING PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING AND SO JUST I MEAN WHEN YOU LEAVE WORK IT'S ACTIVATED AND I THINK YOU KNOW I THINK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF KIND OF YOU KNOW I LOOK AT NORTH LOOK AT THAT SOUTH LOOP AREA AND IT'S KIND OF IN A SENSE A SHOWCASE FOR WHAT BLOOMINGTON IS. YOU KNOW, WE GO BACK A GENERATION TWO YOU KNOW, THE VIKINGS, THE NORTH STARS IT WAS A PLACE THAT WHERE PEOPLE WERE GATHERING. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I ASK MYSELF TODAY IS HOW DO WE REINVENT THE YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BLOOMINGTON STRIP, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE CREATE THAT PLACE, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AT AND BE A PART OF ? I GO TO CONFERENCES ALL THE WAY ACROSS YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I KIND OF SEE IN SOME OF SPACES WHERE IT'S JUST ACTIVATED AND.  I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE THERE. WE'VE GOT THE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE DENSITY, WEE GOT A LOT OF THE TOOLS. WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WEAVE IT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT ALL THING.  AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY I KNOW WE DIDN'T GET THE WORLD'S FAIR  BUT MAN I REALLY LIKE THAT PARK. YOU KNOW THAT PARK REALLY BROUGHT EVERYTHING TOGETHER BECAUSE IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTED THE IDEA OF GATHERING AND BRINGING FOLKS TOGETHER. IT TALKED ABOUT OUR SUSTAINABILITY, OUR INTERNATIONAL CITY. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND HAD TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT'S WE SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING OF THAT LEVEL OF SCALE IN THAT SPACE.  THAT'S IT. I'LL SHUT UP. YOU KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE REST OF OUR THING.  COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU WANT IN ON THIS OR IS IT GOOD?  I'M GOOD ENOUGH. IS THAT HELPFUL THERE THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL. YEAH, THEY THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.  AGAIN, WE'LL BE COMING BACK IN FRONT OF YOU SPECIFICALLY SOMETIME IN JANUARY.  NEW YEAR 2025 SCARY RIGHT?  AND WE'LL BE HOLDING THESE OTHER STATE SESSIONS IN DECEMBER AND MEETING WITH PARKS. WE'RE ALSO WE'RE IN TALKS TO HAVE LIKE A CHECK AND MEETING WITH WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND THE PORT AUTHORITY AS WELL. SO WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME DRAFTS OF ARE WE WE PLAN TO HAVE DRAFTS OF THESE UPDATES TO BRING THE YOU TO AS MODELS OF YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT INCORPORATING THIS UPDATE EFFORT SO YEAH WE'LL SEE YOU THEN AND YEAH THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.  NEXT IN OUR AGENDA ITEM 5.3 DISCUSSION OF OUR PROPOSED TEN YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN LAURIE ECONOMY SHULER BACK WITH US AGAIN LIVE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THIS TIME AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF I LISTEN TO SOME OF THE BUDGET STUFF IN OUR COPY. WE DO GO THROUGH OUR MISSION AND INVESTING IN OUR PRIORITIES AS PART OUR PROCESS . THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR 2024 SOME OF THE PIECES IN OUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND SOME OF THE ITEMS FOR 2025 AND 26 AS PART OF OUR NORMAL PROCESS WHEN WE TALK OUR CFP,  THIS IS A PLANNING TOOL. IT IS NOT AN AUTHORIZATION SPEND TOOL, IT'S A PLANNING TOOL. ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AN UPDATED THROUGH 2025 OUR 50,000 AND GREATER IN OUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WE'VE INCLUDED PROJECTS THAT ARE $1,000,000 AND ABOVE THIS TOOL DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD UNLESS OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AND COUNCIL APPROVAL OR A CITY MANAGER IS IN PLACE AND THEN WE WOULD FIND THAT FOLLOW NORMAL PROCUREMENT RULES TO OBTAIN THE THE PROJECTS THIS EVENING THE DRAFT IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL THE CFP DRAFT WAS DOCUMENT AND THE LINK TO IT WAS SENT OUT TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO SO THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY REVIEW IT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE DOCUMENT BEFORE THEM NEXT THURSDAY AND THEN IT WOULD BE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER 16TH FOR APPROVAL. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM 24 EACH QUARTER WE UPDATE THE PROJECT DASHBOARD INTO THIS SENT OUT THROUGH BLOOMINGTON THIS WEEK AND IT IS ALSO POSTED ON THE FINANCE WEBSITE FOR THE CIP.  ONE OF THE UPDATES THAT WE SAW THIS SUMMER WAS THE UPDATE TO THE MURAL AND WE ALSO SAW ON THE DOORS CHANGE AND SOME OF THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE ENTRIES TO THE CIVIC PLAZA.  WE ALSO HAD GROUNDBREAKING FOR BOTH TRAPPER AND BRYANT PARK AND THE ROUND RESERVOIR FINISHED ITS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND THEN THERE'S SURFACE I CANNOT TELL YOU WHICH AREAS THEY WERE I KNOW I KNOW MEADOW VIEW IS THE FIRST ONE AND THEN IT'S EMERSON WALKWAY FOR THE NEXT ONE AND WE'RE SOME BUMP UP FOR THE THIRD ONE AND BRYANT AVENUE WALKWAY SIDEWALKS THERE FOR THE FOURTH ONE IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THE TEN YEAR PLAN INCLUDES $850 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THE LARGEST BEING THE CITY FACILITY.  AND AS WE NOTED EARLIER THIS EVENING, OUR FIRST PROJECT FOR THE SALES TAX IS UNDERWAY FOR BIG A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT'S COMING FOR IN THE TWO YEAR SUMMARY ON THIS ONE HERE IS THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WELLNESS CENTER THE FLEET GARAGE FIRE STATION, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THAT FACILITY AREA PLUS OTHER SMALLER PROJECTS.  HERE ARE SOME THE FUNDING SOURCES AS YOU SEE THE BIG BLUE BAR IN THE MIDDLE THERE THAT IS 2025 $100 MILLION FOR SALES TAXES FOR THE SALES TAX BONDS FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND THEN THE BROWN AFTER THAT IS WHERE THE $20 MILLION FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES WARRIOR PARK CENTRAL PARK NINE MILE QUARTER IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU SEE THE OUTLINE OF THOSE PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS FOR 2025 WE HAVE SOME NEW PROJECTS FOR THE CIVIC A RESTROOM AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION AREA ARE BEING CHANGED AROUND A LITTLE BIT. WE HAD OUT THERE A NEW WAS ADDED FOR THE TEAR DOWN OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH BUILDING AND IT'LL BE STARTED IN 2027 AND RIGHT NOW CITY NETWORK EXPANSION IS NOW IN THEIR UPDATE TO THE CITY ACCESS CARD SYSTEM A NEW PROJECTS OR ROUNDABOUT IT'S STREET IMPROVEMENTS THE 998 STREET AND 35 W INTERCHANGE THAT'S A LARGE PROJECT AND A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWAYS AND SEWER MAINTENANCE UPSIZING WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON THE SEWER UPSIZING THE LAST COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS SET CHARGES AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING IN THE FUTURE.  SOME OF THE MAJOR FACILITY PIECES THAT ARE IN ON THE SEWER ONES ARE THE FLEET GARAGE COMMITTEE HEALTH WELLNESS, NORMAL PAYMENT MANAGEMENT AND EACH YEAR SENATOR SO THE NINE MILE CORRIDOR CREEK QUARTER PIECE FIRE STATIONS TWO ONE CLUBHOUSE AND THE SANITARY SEWER NORTH THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WE'LL HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ON THE FLEET GARAGE IN THE COMING MONTHS. I THINK COMING ON DECEMBER 2ND COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS COULD BE COMING IN THE NEXT SUMMER AND THE URBAN ARE NEXT FALL.  SO JUST MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION NOW WE'LL FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCUREMENT RULES WILL ENGAGE CONSULTANTS PAYER STUDIES ALL OF THE PIECES AND WE BRING THIS BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE 25 THROUGH 2034 PLAN USUALLY INITIATES PROJECTS FOR 2020 526 LAST YEAR APPROVAL FOR THE COUNCIL IT STARTED THE PROJECTS FOR 2425 SO THOSE THAT ARE COMING AT 25 ARE MOST LIKELY UNDERWAY ALREADY THE COUNCIL FOR THE FLEET GARAGE ALREADY HIRED AND APPROVED AN ARCHITECT FOR THAT . SO I TRY TO BE VERY BRIEF BUT DISCUSSION FEEDBACK QUESTIONS I CAN TAKE THEM TODAY YOU COULD SEND THEM TO US WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU ON THE 16TH OF DECEMBER.  THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR BVITY. APPRECIATE IT.  COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, ONE GENERAL QUESTION IS THERE IS THERE A JUST HEARD A QUESTION I SHOULD I INTENDED IT TO WHAT IS THE METHODOLOGY THAT'S USED TO DETERMINE THE THE ORDER IN WHICH CIP GENERALLY COMES FROM THE TENURE COULD BE HAPPENING TO A TWO YEAR PROBABLY GOING TO BE ASKED FOR TO HAPPEN KIND OF THING WHAT'S GENERALLY THE METHODOLOGY THAT YOU ALL USE THERE I'M ASKING BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE THE CIVIC PLAZA RESTROOM THING THIS IS THE THIS IS THE FIRST I'D HEARD OF IT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE I, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S BAD NECESSARILY BUT I GO INTO THOSE AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BUT LIKE BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S BEEN DECIDED THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING HAPPENS IN 2025 VERSUS IF WE SAID 2027 OR 2028 THAT'S I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING. MARIN COUNCILMEMBER DID ALESSANDRA THE BATHROOM UPGRADE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN BEEN IN MISSISSIPPI BUT IT WAS INITIALLY IT WAS ALL THE BATHROOMS WITHOUT STAIRS AND DOWN STAIRS TO BE IMPROVED AND THEN AND THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE PRICE WAS IN THE CAP WAS 200 IT CAME IN AT 400 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON THAT THAT WE PUSHED ASIDE BATHROOM IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN PRICES. I MEAN IT'S BEEN LIKE FIVE YEARS SO PRICES HAS INCREASED . YEAH, SURE. AND THEN THE THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD JUST DO TOILETS AND SINKS IN THAT ONE AND NOW IT'S EVOLVED TO POSSIBLY INDIVIDUAL TOILET AREAS AND THEN A COMMON HAND-WASHING AREA.  SO IT'S EVOLVED AND NOW BECAUSE IT'S EVOLVED SO MUCH THAT THEY REALLY THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR. I MEAN SO THAT'S GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I HEAR YOU TELLING ME IS THAT THEY'RE PART OF A FAIRLY NORMALIZED PROCESS OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AFTER A 20 OR 25 YEAR LIFESPAN FOR A PARTICULAR AMENITY AND SO THEY WERE PUT IN THE SIPPY. WE KNEW IT WAS COMING AND NOW WE'RE AT THAT POINT AND IF WE DELAYED IT ANY IT WOULD THE COST WOULD GO UP ETC. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S A COMPLETELY REASONABLE EXPLANATION.  IT I THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL WE WERE ASKED TO APPROVE THIS IS IS IT POSSIBLE DESIGNATE IN THE CIP THAT WHICH IS A NOT LIKE A LIKE HAS BEEN IN THE CIP FOR TEN YEARS AND IT'S JUST ROLLING ITS WAY UP INTO THE TOP OF THE LIST VERSUS THE THINGS THAT WE AS A PRIORITY HAVE HAVE MOVED TO TOP OF THE LIST.  I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO BUT STUFF THAT'S LIKE ROUTINE THAT WE KNEW WAS COMING IN A 25 OR 30 YEAR CLIP THAT'S JUST NOW GETTING THE TOP OF THE LIST VERSUS THE THINGS THAT WE'VE KIND OF ADDED THROUGH STRATEGIC PRIORITY.  WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SEE THAT DESIGNATION SO THAT WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND INFORMED FOR OUR APPROVAL PROCESS IN DECEMBER MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS IN THE FIRST TWO DIGITS OF THAT IS THE YEAR THAT THE PROJECT CAME TO START BEING IN THE CHP. SO YOU MIGHT SEE SOMETHING FROM 2018 YOU MIGHT SEE SOMETHING FROM 2010, OKAY IF IT'S VERY ROUTINE THAT IT'S LIKE PMP, IT'S GOT A 99 ON IT SO IT'S JUST OKAY IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR 2030 YEARS FOR PMP TO CONSISTENT EVERY YEAR OKAY THERE'S A LINK MR. MARIN COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE ITEMS THERE ARE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S WHOLE LOT BATHROOMS NOTWITHSTANDING IF IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT KIND OF SUBJECT IT IS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL MOVE ON SO YOU MOST OF THE ITEMS IN THE CHP ALSO TIED TO A FUNDING SOURCE AND SO ESPECIALLY WITH ITEMS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR OWN FACILITIES, IT'S GENERALLY OUR FACILITIES FUND THOSE PAYING FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND SO OUR FACILITIES TEAM IS LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULING OF THESE THINGS BASED NEED LIKE YOU SAID CRITERIA FOR AGING AND SYSTEMS AND WHATEVER AND THEN MATCHING UP OUR FACILITIES FUND TO TIME OUT WITH CHP SO THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS LANGUISHING THERE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE GOT IT PRETTY WELL IDENTIFIED THE PLACES WHERE WE HAVE IS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE IDENTIFIED AND SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP KICKING THEM DOWN THE ROAD UNTIL YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE A SPECIFIC FUNDING PLACE A FUNDING PLAN IN PLACE LET'S REMEMBER.  THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT JUST TO HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE I MEAN THIS USED TO BE A REAL ARDUOUS TASK AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE IS REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB OF SUMMARIZING SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY A VERY COMPLEX THING AND TO AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT IN TERMS OF DOING THAT.  SECONDARILY, I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THE THIS TEN YEAR DEPARTMENT SUMMARY YOU KNOW JUST HOW MUCH IT'S BEEN KIND OF MAPPED OUT BY US BY DEPARTMENT AT THAT YOU KNOW WE WE CERTAINLY CAN DIG DEEPER IN THOSE THINGS BUT I THINK IT'S A CLEAR INDICATION IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THESE ITEMS DONE. I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE PROGRAMED TO BE DONE BUT JUST HOW MUCH WE'VE KIND OF GOT AS AN OPPORTUNITY AND THINGS WE COULD GET DONE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND IT'S QUITE SIGNIFICANT.  I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AT ALL THEN MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, THE BIGGEST COST DRIVERS IN A LOT OF OUR CHP ARE UPDATING CITY FACILITIES LIKE TO HONOR FIRE STATIONS OR FLEET GARAGE UM AS WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS BEFORE COUNCILS HAVE KICKED THE CAN AND THIS GROUP IS FACED WITH LOOKING AT THAT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THOSE WELL MY FINAL POINT AND I WANT TO BRING UP THE THE BATHROOMS BECAUSE THAT IS A SORE SPOT FOR ME BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THAT CAME UP I MEAN IT JUST I THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH FEBRUARY OF 2020 NOT THAT I REMEMBER YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS COUNCIL NOT THIS COUNCIL BUT A DIFFERENT COUNCIL AT THAT POINT IN TIME REALLY GOT YOU KNOW, WORKED UP ABOUT SOME BATHROOMS AND WE WERE REALLY GOING TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND I JUST THINK OF HOW MUCH WAS LOST FROM THEN TO NOW AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO ME TO LOOK AT THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET JUST $1,000,000 AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN I MEAN I JUST REMEMBER SCOPE OF THAT LAST PROJECT. IT JUST MAKES ME ANGRY THAT WE JUST DIDN'T GET IT DONE. AND SO I JUST YOU KNOW, AS LOOK AT THE THIS TENURE KIND OF THING, I JUST I JUST COMMIT MYSELF TO THIS IDEA OF JUST TRYING AS BEST I CAN TO ARGUE FOR THESE THINGS WE TO GET IT DONE TODAY RATHER THAN KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S JUST REAL IMPACTS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE CAPITAL AND THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TODAY, THERE ARE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IN FUTURE AND I THINK THE STAFF HAS REALLY DONE A NICE JOB OF LAYING THOSE THINGS OUT FOR US TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND REALLY KIND OF WITH A CLEAR VISION AND JUST TRYING TO AS BEST WE CAN AS RESPONSIBLY AS WE CAN.  I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE A NICE JOB OF TRYING TO DO THAT BUT I JUST WE HAVE SO MUCH THAT HAS BEEN KICKED INTO OUR OUR AIR OUR AIR OF SO DON'T CERTAINLY DON'T HEAR ME IN TERMS OF SAYING THAT BUT I JUST THINK BACK OF WHAT IT COULD HAVE THEN IF WE WOULD HAVE JUST DONE THAT ONE LOWER PROJECT AND AGAIN NOT A TON OF MONEY BUT IT IS NOW IT NOW AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE FUTURE STAFF HAVE USED THEIR BEST ESTIMATE OF TODAY'S AND THEN SLATED IT TO WHAT IT COULD BE FOR THOSE COST UNTIL WE COME UP TO THAT YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE TO ACTUALLY STUDY WHAT THAT COST IS IT IS STILL AN ESTIMATE IN HERE FOR THOSE FUTURE ONES COUNCIL THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT. AND I'M SORRY I KNOW YOU SAID IT BUT WHEN WILL IT COME BACK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? 16TH OF DECEMBER.  VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MUCH.  MOVING IN NOW COUNCIL TO OUR THREE DIFFERENT BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FOR THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THAT IN 5.4 OR 2025 BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR THE PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT I SEE A AN ENTIRE TEAM COMING FORWARD AND THEN SOME THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL YES YOU DO SEE AN ENTIRE TEAM COMING FORWARD THIS EVENING AND I PROMISE THAT WE WILL BE CONCISE FOR YOU BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE MANY BUSINESSES WITH SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONS TO HAVE OUR STAFF TALK TO YOU THIS EVENING. SO TONIGHT WILL BE PRESENTING THE DETAILS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROPOSED 2025 BUDGET. OUR TEAM IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO EFFICIENCY AND THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO COMMUNITY.  WITH THAT IN MIND IN 2024 WE COMPLETED A MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS PLAN FOR THE PARK MAINTENANCE DIVISION. WE COMPLETED FOOD AND BEVERAGE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR RECREATION FACILITIES.  WE FINISHED THE BRYANT AND TRUMP PARK PLANS BOTH OF WHICH UNDER CONSTRUCTION. RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING TO FINALIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF ORIGINAL PARKS. WE COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE NINE MILE CREEK PROJECTS AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO KICK OFF AN URBAN FORESTRY PLAN .  SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A LOT GOING.  SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW FOR THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR DEPARTMENT.  WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW OUR STAFFING REQUEST AND WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW OUR REVENUE AND SERVICE DELIVERY ENHANCEMENTS AND WE'RE GOING REVIEW OUR PARK AND RECREATION FUNDS.  WE BELIEVE PARKS AND RECREATION IS ESSENTIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE PROMOTE HEALTH WELLNESS AND SUPPORT CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT. WE CONTRIBUTE THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY BONDS.  OUR INFRASTRUCTURE MAKES OUR CITIES RESILIENT ESPECIALLY DURING NATURAL AND CLIMATE CHANGE EVENTS AND NOTABLY 84% OF U.S. ADULTS ARE LOOKING FOR A TO LIVE CHOOSE WHERE THEY LIVE BECAUSE OF HIGH PARKS IN THE AREA.  HERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE PARKS RECREATION TEAM FOR THIS YEAR THE BLOOMINGTON FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER SAW NEARLY 50,000 VISITORS DURING GOLF COURSE REACHED OVER $2.2 MILLION IN GROSS SALES.  THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN RECORDED A 65% INCREASE IN OPEN SKATING REVENUE.  THE BLOOMINGTON CENTER FOR THE ARTS HOSTED AUDIENCES AT AN AVERAGE OF 78% CAPACITY THE HIGHEST SINCE 2019.  THESE NUMBERS DEMONSTRATE OUR STRONG TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE THIS MOMENTUM GOING 2025.  THIS SLIDE SHOWS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY AND, OUR STAFF THAT PERFORMS THE DUTIES, PERFORM OUR RECREATION PROGRAMS, PROVIDE THE FACILITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE REQUESTING SEVEN STAFF POSITIONS THIS YEAR WE HAVE 54 FULL TIME STAFF CURRENTLY AND 244 PART TIME AND SEASONAL STAFF TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT OUR REQUESTS . FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WELLNESS CENTER MANAGER. THIS POSITION WOULD ASSIST WITH THE DESIGN AND OPERATIONS AND HIRE ALL OF THE STAFF WHEN NEEDED THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER THIS PHYSICIAN IS ACTUALLY THE VACANT CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER THE RECREATION MANAGER POSITION WOULD ALSO BE FUNDED THROUGH A REALLOCATION OF EXPENSES ALLOWING US TO SUPPORT EXPANDED RECREATION PROGRAMS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL BUDGET IMPACT.  WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO PARK MAINTENANCE WORKERS SPECIFIC LEAVE TO SUPPORT FORESTRY AND NATURAL RESOURCES . WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN ARENA SPECIALIST BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025 WE HOPE TO HIRE AN ARENA SPECIALIST TO ENHANCE OPERATIONAL COVERAGE AT BLOOMINGTON ICE GORDON BIGGERS OPEN 120 HOURS A WEEK. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE EITHER A FULL OR REGULAR PART TIME PERSON THERE DURING ALL OPEN HOURS. THAT'S FOR THE SAFETY, SECURITY AND, THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST FULL TIME ASSISTANT CENTER FOR THE ARTS MANAGER THIS POSITION WOULD ALSO BE A REINSTATEMENT OF A POSITION THAT WAS LOST DURING COVID. IT WOULD ALLOW US TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE GROWING PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES HOSTED AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCREASING OUR FACILITY UTILIZATION.  AND WE'D ALSO LIKE TO RECLASSIFY A PART TIME POSITION TO A FULL TIME MAINTENANCE AND PRODUCTION SUPERINTENDENT THIS TRANSITION SUPPORTS MORE EFFICIENT MANAGEMENT OF OUR PRODUCTION AND NEEDS AT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS ENHANCING SERVICE DELIVERY THE FACILITY WE HAVE SECURED PARTNERSHIPS WITH BUSINESS NONPROFITS AND ASSOCIATIONS TO OFFER PROGRAMS, AMENITIES AND SERVICES.  THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT ARE THE TODD POD SOCCER SHOTS TORO CORPORATION AND THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW OUR FEES AND COST RECOVERY AS OUTLINED IN THE PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLAN.  WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR OUR PROGRAMS AND OUR FACILITIES. NOTABLE GRANTS RECEIVED IN THE LAST YEAR ARE A $300,000 GRANT FOR THE PLAYGROUND AT BRYANT PARK $50,000 FOR THE URBAN FORESTRY MASTER PLAN ALMOST $72,000 FOR ASTRO REPLACEMENT AND A LIFEGUARDING GRANT FOR TRAINING AND STAFFING AT $55,000 FOR EACH OF THREE YEARS. THAT WAS A LOT. QUICK UPDATE AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND WITH ALLISON.  GOOD EVENING.  THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. I'M GOING TO QUILY GO THROUGH THROUGH THE FUND FOR YOU. THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU HOPEFULLY FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN YOUR PAST BUDGET PRESENTATIONS AND YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THROUGH ALL OF US HERE TODAY. FIRST JUST SHOWING THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET REQUEST HERE WITH THE INCREASES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IF GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THOSE BUDGET CHANGES YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE SOME INCREASES IN INCOME. WE DO HAVE SOME INCREASES IN SALARIES FOR OUR SEASONAL STAFF FOR ADDITIONAL PROGRAMING AND EXPANDING THAT PROGRAMING OUTSIDE INTO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS. THERE IS A REQUEST FOR $175,000 FOR AN INCREASE IN SEASONAL STAFFING HER BACK FIELDS AND THE SHOULDER SEASONS OF OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITIES.  SO APRIL AND THE END OF THE YEAR TRYING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SAME SERVICE.  THEY'RE SITTING ON $61,000 FOR INCREASE IN SALARIES FOR SOME OF OUR EXISTING THAT FOLLOW OUR SCHEDULE HERE FOR STAFF. THE MOST NOTABLE PIECE HERE IS THE $300,000 IN INTERNAL CHARGES THAT ARE THROUGH OTHER CITY FUNDS HERE AS THEY'RE THERE EXPENSES INCREASE THOSE ARE CHARGED BACK TO OUR OUR DEPARTMENT HERE AND A MODEST INCREASE IN MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES OF 50,000. AND WE'RE ALSO AS I MENTIONED WITH THE THREE OF PARK DISTRICT, WE WILL NO LONGER BE CHARGING BACK PARK MAINTENANCE TO OUR AQUATICS FUND. SO TAKING ON THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND DAVE IS GOING TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL QUICK SERVICE REDUCTION. YES. THANK YOU.  ALONG WITH OUR BUDGET WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU THE IDEA OF ENGAGING COMMUNITY THE COUNCIL ON OUR SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO RESIDENTS THROUGH PLANNING SIDEWALKS.  CURRENTLY WE CLEAR THE ENTIRE CITY. IT'S 260 MILES OR SO AND IT TAKES US FROM 1 TO 3 DAYS TO COMPLETE THIS DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF SNOW THAT WE GET, ALL OF OUR OTHER PLANNING OPERATIONS ARE COMPLETED. THE FIRST DAYS START TO FINISH AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO BACK AND DO CLEANUP THE FOLLOWING DAY. THIS CAUSES A LOT OF CONFUSION THE RESIDENTS AND THAT IT TAKES US SEVERAL DAYS TO GET THROUGH THE ROUTES.  IF THERE'S ANOTHER EVENT WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO GO BACK TO DAY ONE AND START WORKING THROUGH OUR PRIORITIES ALL OVER.  OTHER QUALITY CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ARE BESIDES THE TIME IT TAKES US TO GET TO EVERYTHING THE WAY WE'RE RESOURCED WE DON'T SCRAPE DOWN TO THE BARE PAVEMENT. WE DON'T USE ICE CONTROL. WE DON'T DO AS GOOD A JOB AS AS THEY WOULD LIKE.  SO AND IN FACT BY THE TIME WE GET TO A LOT OF THESE THIRD PRIORITY AREAS THAT ARE REALLY LOW VOLUME RESIDENTIAL ROADS, THEY'RE ALREADY DONE AS WELL AS THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS.  IF WE TOOK A LOOK AT DECREASING THIS WE COULD SPEND MORE TIME WORKING ON PARKS AND GET OUR RINKS OPEN SOONER AND THINGS LIKE THAT  ADVANCE. AND SO SOME OF THE SERVICE LEVEL ADJUSTMENTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST OF ALL,  THE CITY HAS HAD A PRACTICE OF DOING SIDEWALKS DECADES.  I'VE WORKED HERE FOR 30 YEARS. I GREW UP IN TOWN SO IN THE SEVENTIES I REMEMBER PLOWS GOING DOWN THE STREET PLOWING THE SIDEWALKS. SO WE'VE DONE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT REQUIRES RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO IT WITHIN 12 HOURS. SO WE'VE CRAFTED A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS THAT WOULD LOOK AT REDUCTIONS IN SERVICE. SO ONE ON SORT OF THE LOW END OF REDUCTION WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE A ROUGHLY 27% OF SIDEWALKS AND WOULD BE THE LOW VOLUME RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO FINISH 1 TO 2 DAYS THE WAY WE'RE STAFFED AND RESOURCE NOW . THE HIGHER LEVEL REDUCTION WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF 7% AND THAT WOULD JUST HAVE US FOCUS ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO CITY PROPERTIES.  OTHER SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICTS LIKE SOUTH LOOPER OR LYNDALE WE HAVE A COMPLETE ENGAGEMENT READY TO GO. WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY THROUGH LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON AND THE BRIEFING IN PERSON EVENTS AND JUST THE QUESTION HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SIDEWALK BLOWING IN BLOOMINGTON?  HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT RESIDENTS TAKING CARE OF IT YOURSELF? WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE OUT THERE NOW AND WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE? SO THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO ADD EQUIPMENT AND STAFF TO TO GET IT BACK TO DOING IT IN ONE DAY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK YOU, MAYOR. DO WANT TO WAIT FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END OR CAN I JUST ASK? YEAH, I DON'T WHAT THE.  WHEN YOU ARE DEVELOPING THAT SURVEY DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO CLARIFY FOR PEOPLE KIND OF BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS SO I IF I'M RESPONDING TO THAT KIND OF SURVEY I WOULD PERSONALLY BE LIKE OH YEAH NO DON'T DO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS BUT I'D STILL WANT LIKE THE MAIN STREET STAND SO IT WILL BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH FOR PEOPLE. YEAH. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE MAPS AND EVERYTHING FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND CERTAINLY THE PRIORITY AREAS THAT WE WORKED THROUGH ALREADY. YEAH. OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU.  ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ALL RIGHT WITH THAT I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE SPECIAL VOTE . I MEAN PARDON ME. I APOLOGIZE. MR. MINISTER DALLESSANDRO, DO YOU HAVE A SAVINGS EXPECTATION WITH EACH OF THOSE SCENARIOS THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW? WE DO. IF I DIDN'T COVER THAT ADEQUATELY SO THE THE THE THE REDUCTION WOULD BE IN TERMS OF STAFF HOURS BE ROUGHLY 620 STAFF HOURS PUT BACK INTO PARKS AND THEN THE HIRE WOULD BE 1250 AND THAT'S BASED ON FIVE YEAR AVERAGES. WE KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T PLOW ANY SIDEWALKS LAST YEAR SO WE TOOK FIVE YEAR AVERAGES. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE EQUIPMENT IS QUITE EXPENSIVE TOO BUT COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND AND COUNCILMEMBER AND LOOKING AT OUR TIME FOLKS WE'D LIKE TO GET OUT OF HERE BY 11. SO COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS JUST A QUICK QUESTION. DO THE PARKS GET AS MUCH USAGE AS THE.  I MEAN ARE YOU PLANNING ON TAKING CARE OF THE PARKS TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS DURING THE WINTER ? SO THEY GET USED AS MUCH AS SORT OF THE STREET SO YOU WILL STOP GOING THROUGH THE TRAILS GET USED? YEAH, I WAS MY SHOES THIS YES. YOU KNOW I MEAN FOR INSTANCE I'D SAY YOU PLOWED MY SIDEWALK. I WILL HAVE AN ISSUE IF I GO HOW MANY PEOPLE GO TO THE PARK AS COMPARED TO HOW MY SHOES THE SIDEWALK GETS WHERE I LIVE? YEAH. YOU KNOW I MEAN HAS THAT BEEN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS? WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH EACH SIDEWALK GETS USED. THE WORK THAT WE BE DOING IN PARKS WOULD WOULD BE ABOVE AND BEYOND PLOWING THEM.  WE WOULD DO TREE WORK. WE COULD DO NATURAL RESOURCES WORK, COULD GET OUR ICE RINKS OPEN SOONER THAN WE DO NOW THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO START USING THE EXTRA STAFF TIME DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SOMEWHAT. I AM MY ONLY IS BECAUSE DURING THE WINTER I SEE THE LOGIC WALKING BY MY HOUSE HEADING TO THE SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW IT GETS PLOWED PARTIALLY BY ME AND PARTIALLY BY THE CITY BECAUSE I DO WHEN I GET UP IN THE MORNING I DO A QUICK CLEANUP JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND THEN THE CITY GOES LATER IN THE DAY BUT I MEAN THE TRAFFIC IN THERE IS A LOT. SO I'M JUST THINKING YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T MIND DOING MYSELF A DAY. IT WOULD TAKE ME UNTIL I COME HOME FROM, YOU KNOW, 12, 14 HOURS LATER IT WILL BE OLD NASTY THERE THROUGH THE DAY UNLESS THE CITY FINDS PEOPLE WE'RE NOT DOING IT ON A TIMELY MANNER SO.  MR. FURBERG YEAH, THAT'S IT. I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS A BIG CONVERSATION, SAID MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. I THINK TWO THINGS TO CONSIDER ONE WITH THE PARKS WE DO GET ACTIVE USE OF THE PARKS WITH THE WINTER AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO PLOW THE TRAILS IN THE PARKING LOTS IN THE PARKS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SAFELY ENJOY THEM. PART OF THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH THE SIDEWALKS IS TO MR. POINT IS THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR A LONG THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEM IT'S THEIR OBLIGATION RIGHT. AND SO WE'VE BEEN THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE HAVE FRANKLY GOLD PLATING OUR SERVICES IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR THAT TERM THAT MEANS WE'RE DELIVERING SERVICE AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN I THINK COULD REASONABLY BE EXPECTED. RIGHT. SO I WOULD SAY THAT FOR PARKS YES WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD CONTINUE TO PLOW THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE MAINTAINED WITH A PRIORITY. AND THE ISSUE HERE IS QUESTIONING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR SIDEWALKS COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAY I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK THE STAFF HOURS CALCULATION DOES THAT INCLUDE THE OTHER WORK THAT WE DO IN THE SPRING TO CLEAN UP WHEN WE MESS UP PEOPLE'S YARDS BECAUSE I KNOW A RESIDENT CALLED ME AND THERE'S A YOU GUYS MESSED UP MY YARD AND WE HAD TO SEND PEOPLE OUT THERE. DOES THAT INCLUDE THAT. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SAW DAMAGE THAT WE DO. THIS IS SIMPLY FOR PLOWING.  GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON JUST CLARIFY THIS IS NOT AN ELIMINATION OF SIDEWALK PLANNING. THIS IS A REDUCTION SO THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE'S PROBABLY A LIKELIHOOD OF HIGH TRAFFIC IN SCHOOL AREAS THOSE WOULD STILL BE A PRIORITY AND AS THEY HAVE BEEN AND WOULD STILL BE HANDLED BY CITY STAFF. IS THAT ACCURATE?  YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, ANY OF THOSE SCENARIOS COULD BE ACCURATE.  WE WE PORTRAY OR PUT TWO SORT OF EXTREME EXAMPLES AND IT COULD VERY WELL END UP IN THE MIDDLE BASED ON EVERYBODY'S FEEDBACK AND EVERYTHING. YEAH AGAIN ONWARD TO FORESTRY ONWARD.  OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO NOW TALK ABOUT THE PARK AND REC SPECIAL REVENUE FUND AND PREVIOUSLY THIS FUND HAD HOUSED ALL OF OUR LOTTERY AND LIEU FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE MET COUNCIL WITH OUR REGIONAL PARKS AND WITH THE PENDING AGREEMENT WITH REVERSE PARK THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED AND THIS FUND WILL SOLELY TAKE CARE OF OUR FORESTRY FUNDING SO COUPLE OF THE THINGS HERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THE DETAILS ARE THE DECREASE REVENUE FROM THE LOTTERY AND LIEU FUNDING OF 60,000 WE ARE PROPOSING TRANSFER OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND FOR FORESTRY EXPENSES OF $165,000 IN LIEU OF RAISING PROPERTY TAXES FOR THIS FUND WE HAVE A DECREASE IN SALARIES AND INCREASE IN INTEREST AND ALL THESE ARE REALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT AGREEMENT. AND WE LOOK AT A DECREASE OF ABOUT $10,000 HERE .  HERE'S A LONG TERM MODEL YOU CAN THE HUNDRED $65,000 TRANSFERRED IN THERE IN BLUE AS IS PENDING YOUR APPROVAL COUNCILMEMBER OAK REGARDING THIS I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE EMBARKING ON A ON A FORESTRY STUDY. DO I ASSUME THAT THIS SPECIAL REVENUE FUND IS NOT ACCURATE PAST 2025? IF YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME AND ASK FOR A LOT MORE MONEY, IS THAT FAIR? COUNCILMEMBER SANDRA WOULD SAY THAT IS FAIR. OKAY, THANKS. YOU.  AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO DAVID TO OUR NARCOTICS FUND . GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MANAGER AND COUNCIL.  DAVID BENSON, YOUR AQUATIC FACILITY MANAGER TONIGHT ARE GOING TO BE DIPPING OUR TOES INTO THE 2025 REQUEST FOR THE AQUATICS FUND.  AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WATER IS JUST FINE. BOTH OUR OVERALL REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES HAVE DECREASED PRIMARILY REFLECTING THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT ASSUMING OPERATIONS OF BUSH LAKE BEACH WHICH HAS ALLOWED TO REDUCE THE RELATED EXPENSES. THIS TRANSITION POSITIONS US TO ALLOCATE OUR RESOURCES MORE EFFECTIVELY WHILE CONTINUING TO MEET OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS NEEDS.  THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THE DECREASE IN REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TAX LEVY PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED THE BEACH FUND. WITH ITS REMOVAL WE'RE SEEING THE REDUCTION OF $165,000. THIS RESULTS IN AN INCREASE IN REVENUE LESS EXPENDITURE AND OVERALL A DECREASE IN THE BUDGET FOR 2025.  THIS SLIDE PRESENTS A SHORT TERM MODEL OF OUR WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE. THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTS INDICATE A HEALTHY WORKING CAPITAL POSITION ESPECIALLY WITH THE ANTICIPATED TAX LEVY INCREASE COMING IN 2026. IN THE LONG RUN, WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE REMAINS HEALTHY AND SUSTAINABLE WITH THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE LEVY.  WE HAVE SOME ENHANCEMENTS IN 2025 WE WILL BE REVAMPING THE TURTLE REEF CONCESSION STAND WITH SOME NEW MENU ITEMS, EQUIPMENT AND INCREASED HOURS. WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR POPULAR WEEKDAY TOT TIME TO ALLOW MORE AGES AND HIGHER FOR FAMILIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT UP IS THE ICE GARDEN GARDEN.  THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MIGHT ADD IF ANY COUPONS LIKE DAVID BUT WE DO HAVE A COOL FACILITY AT THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN.  2025 IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING BUDGETS I'LL EVER PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF WE CLOSED FOR SIX MONTHS FOR A MODERNIZATION.  SO I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET FOR 2025. YOU'LL SEE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN REVENUES ABOUT 40%. ALSO ABOUT A 14% DECREASE DECREASE EXPENDITURES THE ELIMINATION OF PART TIME STAFF DURING THAT CLOSURE.  SCALING BACK AS MUCH AS WE CAN BUT WE STILL NEED TO OPERATE FOR THREE MONTHS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THREE MONTHS AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND GET THE FACILITY BACK OPEN.  LOOKING AT KIND OF A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN, YOU'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THOSE LOSSES IN REVENUE SHIFTING AROUND OF SALARIES DUE TO THE PARTIAL CLOSURE OR THE SIX MONTH CLOSURE REDUCTION IN THE PART TIME STAFFING. ALSO THE REQUEST AS AN MENTIONED EARLIER OF A ADDITIONAL FTE IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE REOPEN WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING A FULL TIME REGULAR PART TIME PERSON IN THE BUILDING. EVERY HOUR THAT WE'RE OPEN.  OTHER ITEMS IN HERE DECREASES IN UTILITIES OBVIOUSLY BEING CLOSED SIX MONTHS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE UTILITIES FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE AND MODERNIZATION WE'LL SEE SOME LONG TERM REDUCTIONS TO THOSE UTILITY COSTS TO FORECAST THOSE WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS POINT BUT ANTICIPATING SOME SOME LONG TERM SAVINGS THERE.  ALSO JUST SOME OTHER REDUCTIONS DUE TO BEING CLOSED FOR FOR AGAIN A PORTION OF THE YEAR. YOU'LL SEE SOME OTHER INCREASES INTERNAL SERVICE FEES, SOME CAPITAL OUTLAY AND DEBT SERVICE WELL. THE LONG TERM MODEL DOES TAKE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL HIT IN 2025 AGAIN DUE TO A SIX MONTH CLOSURE BUT FORECASTING OUT WITH A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE TAX LEVY. IT DOES RECOVER AND LOOK POSITIVE 2028 AND BEYOND.  OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ALSO AND AS I MENTIONED WE'VE WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN OUR ICE RENTAL AND ICE UTILIZATION. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF NEW PROGRAMS BEING.  ADULT COFFEE CLUB WE ADDED A NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY LAST YEAR WAS HUGELY SUCCESSFUL. SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME CONCESSION CHANGES AS WELL WITH OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THEN LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS LONG TERM TO MAXIMIZE OUR REVENUES IN THE SUMMER TIMES BY REDUCING DISCOUNTED SUMMER ICE IN THE MONTHS MONTHS THEY USED TO BE BEGGING PEOPLE TO COME TO THE RINK AND RENT ICE AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE KNOCKING THEM WIRELESS DECKS BECAUSE IT'S SO BUSY AND THE DEMAND IS SO HIGH.  WHY CONTINUE TO DISCOUNT THAT FEE? SO WITH THAT QUESTIONS OTHERWISE I'LL PASS IT ON TO PETER. LET'S REMEMBER CARTER'S QUESTION I THINK WE'RE SORRY REALLY QUICK.  SO FOR THE POSITIONS THAT WILL BE REDUCED DURING THE CLOSURE ARE THOSE POSITIONS LIKE KIND OF GOING AWAY? I GUESS I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT. I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THERE'S POTENTIAL TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED WORK IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY LIKE HELPING WITH BALL FIELDS OR WHATEVER YOU KNOW THINKING ABOUT THE CAP CONVERSATION EARLIER IF WE HAVE TO REHIRE LATER IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO HIRE PEOPLE IN MARCH MORE THAN LIKELY SO PLUS OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE ON STAFF WE WANT TO KEEP GOOD PEOPLE ON STAFF SO MORE OF A COMMENT BEAR AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WE WE ARE NOTIFYING ALL OF OUR LIMITED REGULAR PART TIME STAFF THAT THEY WILL BE FURLOUGHED EFFECTIVE MARCH BUT WE WILL PASSING ALONG OTHER SEASONAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO THEM FOR THEM TO PURSUE IF IT FITS THEIR SKILL SET AND THEIR INTEREST IN THEIR HOURS WITH THE HOPE OF RETAINING SOME OF THOSE REALLY GOOD STAFF IT'S JUST A LOT CLEANER TO GO THAT ROUTE AND SOME ARE PLANNING TO TAKE SOME TIME OFF . SOME WILL HOPEFULLY BE BACK WORKING FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE ORGANIZATION.  SO THANK YOU .  ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. PETER COVERS THE GOLF COURSE MANAGER.  I GUESS I'LL START WITH THE HEADLINE THINGS ARE VERY GOOD AT DWAN GOING ON. I GUESS IS SEVEN YEARS NOW WHERE WE'VE HAD RECORD REVENUE GROWTH TOMORROW IF ANYBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION IT'S GOING TO BE 80 DEGREES AND WE'RE GOING TO DO 200 ROUNDS AT THE END OF OCTOBER.  SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD SHAPE.  SO MIKE SHOULD BE PRETTY BRIEF HERE. THE BUDGET REQUEST FOR 2025. SOME OF THE THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THE LAST YEAR OF ANY KIND OF LEVY SUPPORT FROM THE CITY FOR THE GOLF OPERATIONS AND THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN FEES AND THAT WHICH WILL OFFSET SOME OF THE THINGS WITH EXPENSES AND IF GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE SOME INCREASES IN MY EXPENSE FOR MATERIALS AND LABOR. OOPS.  YEP. HERE WE GO.  SO THIS SLIDE BREAKS THIS DOWN. AS YOU SEE THE 105,000 WAS THE LEVY SUBSIDY WHICH WAS GOING TO GO AWAY. THE THING FOR ME FOR YOU MAY NOT BE SO BIG IS THE INCREASE OF $360,000 THERE AND REQUEST FOR MATERIALS ONE IS $30,000 FOR REPLACEMENT OF ASH TREES WE TOOK DOWN SEVERAL LAST YEAR WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY DOWN THE REMAINDER OF THEM THIS YEAR WHICH ALL TOLD WILL BE ABOUT 120 PLUS ASH TREES. SO I'M REQUESTING THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR REPLACEMENT AND THEN 330,000 IS FOR THE STUDY FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND THE CLUBHOUSE POTENTIALLY AS WELL AS GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL COME OUT OF CHARTER BOND FUNDS WHICH I UNDERSTANDING WILL BE PUT BACK IN IN 2026. SO IT'LL HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE LONG TERM BALANCE.  OKAY. SO THIS SLIDE IS THE LONG AND SHORT TERM CAPITAL BALANCE AND AS YOU CAN SEE IS VERY HEALTHY 2024 NOT QUITE DONE YET BUT PROJECTION IS WE'RE GOING TO BE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE AND I I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IT IS DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY TAX LEVY SUBSIDY AND GOING FORWARD FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN SEE WE SHOULD BE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE . FINALLY IS ENHANCEMENTS HERE AT THE GOLF ALONG WITH THE OTHER FACILITIES WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE AS A REVENUE SOURCE TO INCREASE THAT. AND THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE BOTTOM SLIDE THERE. IT SAYS 42 PAGE GOLF COURSE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENT AND THIS WAS A STUDY I DID WITH MY MY STAFF LAST YEAR. WE PUT TOGETHER PICTURES, DIFFERENT THINGS ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS ON THE GOLF COURSE SAID WE JUST GOT TO FIX THIS SMALL LITTLE PROJECT BIG PROJECTS AND ALL THESE WERE ABSORBED INTO WHAT WE THE REGULAR OPERATING REGULAR STAFF. WE'VE ALREADY KICKED OFF ABOUT PROBABLY 15 OR 20 OF THEM BUT SOME OF THINGS ARE THEY'RE NOT GLAMOROUS CAR PATH REPAIR,  LANDSCAPING REPAIR, TAKING DOWN MORE FLOWERS. WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT FLOWERS WHERE WE ENHANCE AND TRADE FLOWER GARDENS FOR DIFFERENT FLOWER GARDENS. SO THOSE ARE THINGS AND ALSO OF COURSE BRANDING. WE'VE MADE A BIG EFFORT HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO KIND OF DWAN SO THAT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD AND IN THE COMING YEARS SO THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS?  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU IAN.  GOOD EVENING ALL. HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS BUDGET.  SO BEFORE WE DOVE INTO THESE SLIDES HERE I JUST TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION THAT IN 2025 PARKS AND RECREATION WILL BE HIRING A CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE A FACILITY OPERATIONS ANALYSIS FOR.  WE WANT TO TAKE A TOP TO BOTTOM LOOK AND EVALUATE HOW THINGS ARE RUNNING HERE. THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO MODERNIZE THE OPERATING BUSINESS MODEL THAT WE'RE WE'RE WORKING UNDER.  MEETING CURRENT NEED PROJECTED FUTURE BUT ALSO TO BRING BCA INTO FURTHER ALIGNMENT WITH THIS COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLANNING PRIORITIES WHICH I KNOW IS A BIG ONE. SO THAT WILL BE ONGOING IN 2025 AS WELL. ON THE SLIDE HERE CAN SEE THE BUDGET REQUEST. I DO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO IMPORTANT ONES THAT THE ADJUSTMENT IN THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY AND THEN AS AND MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THE CHANGE TO SALARIES BENEFITS BCA IS ANTICIPATING A $500,000 INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAX LEVY.  THIS WAS ACTUALLY FORECAST IN PREVIOUS TEN YEAR BUDGET MODELS SO THIS IS NOT NEW TO THIS YEAR  AND AS WELL AS WITHIN THIS THE TWO POSITION REQUESTS THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE ASSISTANT MANAGER POSITION AND THE INCREASE TO OUR FULL TIME MAINTENANCE AND PRODUCTION SUPERINTEND. BCA IS A FACILITY THAT'S OPEN 89 HOURS A WEEK AND CURRENTLY HAS ONE FULL TIME POSITION ASSIGNED IT. IT DOES AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF VOLUME BETWEEN ARTS RESIDENT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS BUT ALSO I MEAN DOZENS OF CITY CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND YEAR AND IT'S A VERY DYNAMIC FACILITY. IT'S JUST MISSING STAFFING AT THIS POINT. SO WE'D LIKE TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.  SO AS WE CAN SEE HERE, THE THE INCREASE OF THE TAX LEVY DOES PROVIDE US A SUSTAINABLE SHORT TERM MODEL WHILE THIS FACILITY OPERATIONS ANALYSIS PROCEEDS.  IT'S ALSO IN SUPPORT OF JUST KEEPING THE DOORS OPEN AND OUR ONGOING IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO AND NOW 20 YEAR OLD FACILITY. AND THEN OF COURSE THE TWO POSITION REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS VITAL TO FACILITY OPERATION  SO WITH INCREASED STAFFING SUPPORT WE DO INTEND TO HAVE CITY RUN EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN THE CLASSROOMS AND STUDIOS WITHIN BCA. WE DO INTEND TO CONTINUE SERVICE TO THE CITY CIVIC ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS AND THOSE STRATEGIC PLANNING PRIORITIES WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ONGOING SUPPORT OF OUR ARTS PARTNERSHIPS AS THEIR CONTINUE TO INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR POST COVID AND WITH CREEKSIDE ALSO CLOSING WE ARE IN LINE TO ABSORB A LIMITED AMOUNT OF THEIR PROGRAMING AS WELL AS MULTIPLE PATRONS OF THEIRS IN 2025 AND I BELIEVE I AM LAST. SO THAT MOVES US TO THE DISCUSSION SLIDE FOR ME OR FOR ANYBODY ELSE HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, THANK YOU VERY.  SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION REALLY FOR YOU, BUT YOU KNOW, WE THE FACILITIES CONVERSATION WHERE WE WE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW AND I SAW A LITTLE NOTATION FURTHER BACK WHERE WE'RE ADDING THIS POSITIONS FOR THAT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M KIND OF HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO GRASP KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT OVERALL FACILITIES PLAN.  AND I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO DO THAT HERE IN THE BUDGET, BUT I'M I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT WHOLE THAT OVERALL PROCESS OF GETTING TO THAT WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE WITH THAT FACILITIES PLAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WE ARE SO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IS REFERENCING IS THE FACILITIES SERVICE ASSESSMENT THAT WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THAT IDENTIFIED OPTIMAL SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE WITHIN VARIOUS BUILDINGS BASED ON THEIR FUNCTION AND IDENTIFY THAT WE ARE QUITE A FEW STAFF SHORT OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACTUALLY DELIVER SERVICE AT THOSE LEVELS.  AND SO OUR PLAN HAS BEEN OVER TIME TO TO PERIODICALLY ADD STAFF TO GET TO THAT LEVEL.  MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT WE HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR AND THE FACILITIES STAFFING SIDE DOESN'T KEEP US ON PACE BUT IT'S ON THE BALANCE OF EVERYTHING ELSE. SO SAY THAT WITH ALL THE COMPETING INTERESTS THAT WE HAVE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING BALANCE HERE.  TO IAN'S POINT WITHIN ARTS CENTER WE WE FRANKLY JUST NEED TO HAVE WHO CAN PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT PROVIDING RIGHT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THERE. AND I THINK WAS BEING UNREASONABLY HUMBLE WHEN HE WAS REFERRING ONE EMPLOYEE FOR 89 HOURS THAT THE FACILITY IS OPEN.  I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE FOR THE ONE EMPLOYEE TO HAVE TO BE THAT'S THAT'S HIM RIGHT THERE TO HAVE TO BE ON CALL AT TIMES TO RESOLVE ALL PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE.  WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S PART OF WHY I WAS I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT ANYWAYS BUT THEN THAT REALLY KIND OF KEEP THAT UP BUT I MEAN SO GUESS THERE'S SOME IT'S LIKE WE'VE DONE THAT FOR DISABILITY STUDY AND WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THIS IS I'M LOOKING AT THE HERE SO TRY TO BE CAREFUL HERE BUT THE THING I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS OKAY WE THAT IN PLACE WE PAID FOR THA STUDY AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT.  I HAVE NO VISIBILITY TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.  AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I ASKED BACK WHEN THAT HAPPENED HOW DO WE KNOW IF HAVE SUCCESS WITH THAT PLAN? SO I'D HATE THAT TO BE OBSCURED YOU KNOW, BY THE SITUATION WE'RE AND I GET THE OVERALL YOU KNOW BALANCING THE BALANCING ACT WE'VE GOT TO DO BUT IT CAN'T ALL HAVE TRANSPARENCY TO THAT VIEW SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED OR HOW THAT WOULD WORK BUT THAT'S MY MY PROBLEM AS A POLICYMAKER.  MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, WE CAN HAVE OUR FACILITY STAFF JUST DO A QUICK CHECK ON AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THAT ASSESSMENT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW WHAT MORE IS LEFT TO DO BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THERE SO WE'LL PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU BEFORE WE GET THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.  COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WAS GOING TO ASK ALMOST EXACTLY SAME QUESTION BUT MR. FEINBERG'S ANSWER HAS ME ASKING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WHICH IS THAT FACILITIES FEASIBILITY STUDY, THE SERVICE LEVEL STUDY THAT WE DID PART OF THAT WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE BCA. SO THE QUESTION I GUESS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY IS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED IN THIS HOW MUCH HOW MUCH OF THAT SERVICE LEVEL THAT IN FACILITIES IN GENERAL IS BEING COVERED BY THIS ASK VERSUS A FACILITY, ASK IF THAT'S POSSIBLE SO THAT SO THAT KNOW IF IT IF IT'S IN PART LIKE I KNOW FACILITIES LIKE CLEAN THE BCA THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAN HELP A PERSON INSTALL AN EXHIBIT IN THE ART GALLERY. RIGHT. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING A WHOLE PERSON TWO PEOPLE IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE FACILITY'S YOU KNOW, SERVICE LEVEL REQUIREMENT, THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE PEOPLE YOU'RE ASKING FOR HERE FOR THE BCA AND HERE'S WHY JUST SO WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT IF THAT MAKES SENSE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. LET'S REMEMBER NELSON.  THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GOT A FEW BUT I'LL STICK THE ARTS.  I'LL BE HONEST. I STRUGGLE WITH THE ADDITIONAL POSITION THAT NO OFFENSE I'M DOING A GREAT JOB AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOT BUT PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'RE ALREADY INVESTING SO MUCH IN THE CENTER OF THE ARTS. AND WHAT I HEARD IS WE'RE GOING TO DO A STUDY TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW TO OPERATE THAT AND IT SEEMS A LITTLE PREMATURE TO MAKE CHANGES PRIOR TO THAT STUDY.  I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OUR STAFF HAS VERSUS OUR PARTNERS SHOULD THEY BE TAKING CARE OF THINGS AFTER HOURS MAKING SURE THINGS OKAY AND COULD WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE NOT ARTS RELATED BUT FACILITIES RELATED AND TAKEN CARE OF ? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SAID THE CLEANING AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THEIR EVENTS AND SO THAT ONE I'M STRUGGLING WITH JUST GIVEN ALL OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THAT AREA.  I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT WITH SOME TYPE OF PLAN FOR.  YOU KNOW WE'VE TALKED A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT OTHER REVENUE GENERATING THINGS LIKE A CAFE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE UTILIZING SOME OF THE SPACE IN THERE.  COULD WE PUT SOME TYPE OF REVENUE GENERATING THING IN PLACE TO FUND ADDITIONAL SERVICE LEVEL IN MY MIND MAY MAKE MORE SENSE. SO IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION. IT'S JUST THOUGHT.  THE SALARY FOR THE EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS AT HER BACK. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND IT'S PROBABLY JUST MY MEMORY THAT I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS OF IT AND IT'S A EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE AMOUNT BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT GENERATES ENOUGH ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL COST. AND IF IT'S NOT THEN IS OF THAT MUCH VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN IS RIGHT NOW THE TIME WE WANT TO BE EXPANDING SERVICES WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT 11% LEVY AND LOOKING AT MULTIPLE YEARS OF HIGH LEVEL LEVIES IS THAT IS THIS THE TIME TO BE DOING THOSE THINGS? I MEAN IT'S PROBABLY GREAT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS IN OUR BUDGET THAT FRANKLY I DON'T THINK ARE ALL THAT HIGHER PRIORITIES FOR US TO DOING ON THE GOLF COURSE THE $330,000 FOR THE DESIGN AND THE PROBABLY MAKES SENSE I'VE BEEN IN THAT PLACE IT'S IT'S NOT GREAT NOT GREAT.  MY ONLY QUESTION IS WILL WE BE ABLE TO RECOUP IT THROUGH FOOD BEVERAGE INCREASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT BY MAKING IT A BETTER FACILITY?  IF NOT, WOULD WE LOOK AT JUST INSTEAD OF DOING ALL NEW AND DOING REALLY EXPENSIVE REMODEL IT AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE DEFICIENCIES THAT THERE FOR SIGNIFICANTLY LESS MONEY? I MEAN YOU COULD PUT THAT $330,000 TOWARDS REMODELING VERSUS YOU KNOW JUST DOING THAT INTO DESIGN AND BUILDING THE NEW BUILDING. LASTLY ARE AQUATICS IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY AGAIN BUT THERE'S SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE SOME WHICH MAY BE NECESSARY BUT ANY OF THAT THAT COULD BE DEFERRED. I THINK WOULD MAKE SENSE UNTIL WE HAVE A BETTER CONCEPT OR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER BECAUSE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE AND I BELIEVE I'VE HEARD HERE AS WELL ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING TWO AQUATICS FACILITIES AND THE SUSTAINABILITY AND FEASIBILITY OF THAT AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. AND SO UNTIL WE HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO INVEST DISCRETIONARY MONEY IF BROKEN TAKE CARE OF IT FIX IT BUT IF IT'S DISCRETION AREA I WOULD AT THIS POINT HOLD OFF SO NO QUESTIONS JUST COMMENTS I GUESS.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR OBSERVATIONS.  ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL REGARDING PARKS OR LAKEWOOD COUNCILMEMBER?  NOAH NELSON SAID IN REGARDS TO THIS IT'S A  THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, MISS KADRI. I APPRECIATE IT AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BUT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  NEXT UP ARE 2025 DISCUSSION ON OUR POLICE BUDGET.  CHIEF HODGES, THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US. IT'S PAST MY BEDTIME IN HERE.  GOOD EVENING. NIGHT. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL I'LL BE THE DETAILS OF OUR 2025 BUDGET. I KNOW THERE'S TIME, BUT FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ANY TIME I'M GIVEN THIS PRESENTATION.  ALL RIGHT. SO THE AGENDA FOR THIS JUST LIKE THE OTHER BUDGET PRESENTATIONS IS GOING TO BE 2025 VERSUS 2024. YOU ALL CAN SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE FACT HERE WHAT THIS OH DID I WENT FAR.  SORRY. ALL RIGHT. OUR 2024 BUDGET FOCUSED AROUND PERSONNEL. OBVIOUSLY LAST WE HAVE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE INCREASES ARE MAINLY DUE TO INFLATION. LAST YEAR A LOT OF OUR BODIES THAT WE GOT WERE A RESULT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING THAT THE STATE HAD GIVEN US AND I'LL GET TO THE BREAKDOWN AND THAT LATER BUT WE WERE REALLY NOT ASKING BODIES THIS YEAR LIKE WE WERE LAST YEAR MAINLY JUST INCREASES. DEALING WITH INFLATION AND WHATNOT THIS IS OUR BUDGET HERE.  AS YOU CAN SEE WE WE ANTICIPATE FOR 2025 REVENUES APPROXIMATELY 4.6 MILLION WHICH REFLECTS AN INCREASE OF $844,000 FROM 2020 FOR THE NET TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR 2025 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE EXPECTED TO BE 37.9 MILLION THE LARGEST AREA OF GROWTH IS OUR SALARIES AND BENEFITS WHICH UP BY $3 MILLION AND THEN CHANGES IN INTERNAL CHARGES WHICH FOR US IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $1,000,000  A DETAILED BREAKDOWN HERE THE THINGS IN BLUE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER IN TERMS OUR SPENDING THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN CUT OUR SUPPLIES WE COULD NOT RENT SOME VEHICLES AND WHATNOT AND CAN CUT OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUT THE THINGS AND THE NUMBERS IN BLACK WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. SO THOSE ARE THE UNION THAT WERE APPROVED LAST YEAR. IN ADDITION TO THE BENEFITS AND THEN AGAIN THE INCREASES IN INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WONDERING WHAT THE INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES ARE, IT'S FLEET AND I.T ARE THE MAIN DRIVERS FOR THAT INCLUDING.  SOME OF OUR FACILITIES RENT IN HERE WITHIN THE CITY.  SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY AID AGAIN THE STATE HAD GIVEN THE CITY PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS AROUND $4 MILLION AND CITY OF BLOOMINGTON YOU ARE VOTED TO WE GAVE LEGAL $375,000 AND FIRE GOT $716,000 LAST YEAR AND THIS IS THE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE'VE SPENT OUR CURRENTLY SPENDING THE STATE AID DOLLARS. THIS HAS REALLY HELPED US A LOT OBVIOUSLY FOR THE TAXPAYER BUT IT'S ALSO ALLOWED US TO DO SOME REALLY INNOVATIVE THINGS HERE AT THE POLICE LIKE OUR THERAPY PROGRAM AND WHATNOT.  THIS THIS REALLY HELPED US A CURRENT NEEDS. SORRY I'M BLOWING THROUGH THIS BUT LIKE I SAID IT FEELS FREE TO STOP ME. I PUT UP THE SLIDE YEAR JUST SO PEOPLE KIND OF GET A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF OUR SIZE HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OUR AUTHORIZED STRENGTH IS 129 POLICE OFFICERS. WE'RE CURRENTLY OVERSTAFFED BY FOUR DUE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING THAT WE WERE GIVEN.  BUT IF YOU LOOK WE GOT 92,000 PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, 129 COPS ROCHESTER 124,000 PEOPLE, 158 COPS. DULUTH 88,000 PEOPLE 158 COPS AND SAINT CLOUD 72,000 PEOPLE 116 COPS.  THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE TOTAL IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AS YOU SEE IN THE READ THE POLICE OFFICER PIECE HERE, THOSE ARE THE OFFICERS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY OVERSTAFFED AND THOSE OFFICERS ARE BEING PAID FOR BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS OF 2026 WILL BE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SERGEANT.  SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT BECAUSE IN TERMS OF SUPERVISION WE DO HAVE SOME GAPS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND AGAIN THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SHEET THAT GOES THROUGH OUR STAFFING.  IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT STAFFING NEEDS TO ADDRESS STAFFING NEEDS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THE PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS TO BE OVERSTAFFED AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE NO ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS FOR YOU ALL TO IMPROVE THAT MOST DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET CURRENT STAFFING IN SOME DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE THEY'RE STILL NOT ABLE TO FIND PEOPLE QUALITY PEOPLE TO DO THE JOB. SO FOR US TO BE OVERSTAFFED IS REALLY HELPED I MEAN WE'VE HAD SOME STAFF ATTRITION WITH SOME RETIREMENTS ALREADY THIS YEAR AND TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE UP AND READY TO GO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT MISSED A BEAT BECAUSE OF THAT.  SO AGAIN I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ASKING IN THE FUTURE FOR SUPERVISOR AND OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE SPAN OF CONTROL IN THERE IS JUST WAY TOO IT'S WAY TOO LARGE FOR ONE PERSON TO DEAL WITH IN THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER ORG CHART THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW AND AGAIN YOU CAN ALL READ BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR WITH THAT IN 2025 OR 2026 THERE IS ONE POSITION ON HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK TO FUND AGAIN WITH SOME PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS WILL, BE A COMMANDER OF SPECIAL PROJECTS AND THERE'S A POTENTIAL GRANT FOR THAT. BUT THE SPECIAL PROJECTS COMMANDER THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A RESULT OF THE GEORGE FLOYD NATIONALLY THERE'S BEEN A PUSH TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES GET ACCREDITED AND THAT ACCREDITATION PROCESS IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE. SO THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, THE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION GOT A GRANT TO DO THE CITY OF ROSEVILLE RECENTLY RECENTLY GOT A DOJ GRANT DO THAT WHICH IS GOING TO PAY FOR ONE POSITION FOR TWO YEARS AND OUR PLAN IS FOR US TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT IN JUNE. BUT THIS ACCREDITATION PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO START COMING TO ALL MINNESOTA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. SO WHILE WE THE OPPORTUNITY IT'S I'D LIKE TO GET IT ON THE FRONT END WHEN THE STATE STARTING THEIR ACCREDITATION PROCESS SO ENHANCED IN-SERVICE DELIVERY WE STARTED BABBEL WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT OUT HERE PRETTY QUICK BUT OUR OFFICERS  INCLUDING ME DON'T ASK ME TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW BUT WE JUST STARTED TO USE BABBEL SO WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH OUR COMMUNITIES SO RIGHT WE HAVE 15 OF OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE STARTING TO USE THE BABBEL SOFTWARE ALEXA PAUL BEFORE WE DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRONIC POLICIES OUR POLICIES WERE STILL KEPT ON MICROSOFT WORD ALEXA PAUL HAS ALLOWED US TO UPDATE OUR POLICIES AND ALSO HAVE A POLICY MANUAL THAT WE CAN CHANGE ONE THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GET TRAINED A WELLNESS PROGRAM OBVIOUSLY WE GOT A REALLY GOOD WELLNESS PROGRAM HERE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BRAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THE THERAPY PROGRAM THAT I DISCUSSED EARLIER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE WE CONTINUE TO BUILD ON OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. I MEAN YOU ALL OUT HERE WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE TO CONTINUE TO BE OUT THERE ON THE ACCREDITATION PROCESS. I EARLIER I THINK DID I MISS A THAT REVENUE OH WE APPLIED FOR OVER $800,000 IN GRANTS TO SUPPORT VARIOUS PROGRAMS WE THE CITY CODE ALSO FOR THE FALSE ALARMS PIECE WHICH IS GOING TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THAT SERVICE REDUCTION IMPACT. SO THIS IS OUR MISSION OBVIOUSLY BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS ALWAYS BE WE'RE KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND THE CITY'S MISSION IS TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE SORRY IT'S CLEAR IF WE WERE TO HAVE A REDUCTION IN OUR BUDGET,  OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO IT WOULD HINDER OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE SOME ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND POTENTIALLY DIMINISHING THE QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE AND I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT UP AND OBVIOUSLY IT TAKES FUNDING TO DO THAT AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO NOT ONLY BE THE BEST ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BE THE BEST BUT IF WE HAD TO REDUCE THAT THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO SOME SERVICE REDUCTIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO. UNFORTUNATELY, JUST LIKE ANY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY. SO WITH THAT I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IT'S COUNCILMEMBER LONELY AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER THE THANK YOU SO OBVIOUSLY YOU SHOWED THE SLIDE HERE WITH ROCHESTER DULUTH AND BLOOMINGTON WITH THE AUTHORIZE SWORN OFFICERS.  YOU KNOW, I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER THIS EARLIER TODAY BUT I MEAN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A REASON WHY WE INCLUDED THAT THERE. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IF YOU THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING YOU KNOW I KNOW AT FIRE DEPARTMENT WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEHIND IN TERMS OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT. AND I KNOW WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES HERE TO TRY TO GET GET OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, ON A TRACK. DO YOU DO YOU THINK THAT YOU KNOW, FROM A LONG TERM STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FIVE YEARS OUT THAT WE SHOULD LOOK MORE YOU LIKE ROCHESTER OR SAY CLOUD? I MEAN JUST TRY TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE WITH THE SLIDE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE HOW WE STACK UP AGAINST OTHER AGENCIES. BUT IN TERMS OF TERM STAFFING PLANNING AND THIS IS A LONGER DISCUSSION I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GUYS WANT TO HAVE A 1030 BUT THERE IS THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO GET MORE OFFICERS ON THE STREET. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU ALL ALLOWED US TO HIRE CIVILIAN JAILERS. SO FOR EVERY CIVILIAN JAILER THAT WAS HIRED THAT'S A POLICE OFFICER THAT GETS TO GO BACK ON THE STREET AND THE CIVILIAN JAILERS DON'T EARN AS MUCH AS A POLICE OFFICER. SO THERE'S SOME STUFF THERE. THERE'S SOME OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TOO THAT MAYBE A CIVILIAN CAN DO AS OPPOSED TO A POLICE OFFICER TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO LOWER THE TAX LEVY WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT ULTIMATELY LONG TERM WE SHOULD TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES BUT WE'RE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO TRY TO OFFSET THAT BY CIVILIAN EYES RISES SOME POSITIONS AND CONTINUING TO DO THINGS LIKE THE CIVILIAN JAILORS. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. I JUST I JUST GET CONCERNED I KNOW THAT AS THE DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT AND CHANGE WE'LL HAVE A BIT OF A DIP. YOU KNOW WITH MY GENERATION GEN-X GENERATION AND SO I JUST GET NERVOUS AS WE TRY TO IF WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH FOLKS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT MAY COST TAXPAYERS EVEN MORE MONEY LATER DOWN THE LINE. SO I DO THOUGH THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OTHER WAYS TRY TO DO IT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLY SO.  YEAH. MR. DRAGHI. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL LOWMAN I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AS PART OF THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN.  THE FIRST IS HOW ARE WE DOING ON OUR STAFFING AND ARE WE MANAGING WHAT WE KNOW TO BE A DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE THAT'S COMING WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT PRIMARILY THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SENIOR OFFICERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RETIRING AND SO THAT'S THE POLICE CHIEF MADE THE REQUEST WITH THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS TO ALLOW US TO OVERSEE SO THAT WE DO NOT SEE A DIP WITH THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE DURING THAT TRANSITION THAT WE'RE OVERSTAFFED AND ANTICIPATING WHEN THOSE RETIREMENTS ARE COMING. IT ALSO US PREPARE FOR SOME OF THE EXPERIENTIAL LOSS IF WE HAVE PEOPLE NOW WE HAVE FEWER NEWCOMERS AT THE TIME SO YOU DON'T HAVE LESS EXPERIENCED OFFICERS COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE OVER STAFFING PLAN THE OF OUR OUR AUTHORIZED OF OFFICERS COMPARED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A LONGER TERM CONVERSATION AS THE CHIEF SAID, JUST UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT IS THE BASIS FOR THE STAFFING NUMBERS, THE RATIOS THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER AND THAT'S A LONGER TERM CONVERSATION.  BUT I YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I FEEL GOOD WITH WHAT THE CHIEF AND HIS COMMAND STAFF HAVE LAID OUT TERMS OF A PLAN TO MANAGE US THROUGH WHAT WE KNOW IS WHETHER YOU CALL IT SILVER TSUNAMI OR JUST THE IMPENDING RETIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICE LEVELS AND, MAINTAIN BUDGETS AND MAINTAIN EXPERIENCE LEVELS . THANKS AND I'LL WAIT FOR THAT OTHER CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S I DON'T THINK GERMANE TO THIS BUDGET. I THINK IT'S MORE LONG TERM COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WAS GOOD OTHERS I MUST BE LATE IS WHAT HAPPENS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE WITH ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS HE WAS AWESOME AND A TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU GUYS USE IS AMAZING IT'S IT I MEAN HE WAS JUST I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE GIVES IT AWAY YOU KNOW BUT I MEAN YOU IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE TO YOU KNOW I DID IT IN THE PAST BUT IT'S BEEN CLOSE TO TEN YEARS AND THE STAFF HAS CHANGED SO MUCH AND HE THEY'RE AMAZING THE COPS OUT THERE ARE AMAZING. I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE HE WAS READING LICENSE PLATES IN A FLY.  I MEAN IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH HIM AND WAS JUST DOING THAT. I WASN'T DRIVING, YOU KNOW AND RYAN HE I MEAN HE WAS JUST ALREADY PUNCHING THE MINUTE YOU WHEN I WAS JUST READING THE MAIL IS AMAZING. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND I PLAN ON DOING IT AGAIN SO THANK YOU BUT GOOD THAT'S IT AND I'LL JUST CLOSE ON THIS YOU KNOW AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE OVERSTAFFED THE APPLICANT POOL FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT I MEAN THIS LAST PROCESS DID WE HAD 17 PEOPLE PUT IN FOR POLICE OFFICER I KNOW MINNEAPOLIS SAID THEY'VE GOT 1000 APPLICANTS I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH BUT I GET A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT THERE'S A THOUSAND APPLICANTS BECAUSE WE JUST WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MANY APPLY HERE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND THERE HASN'T BEEN THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE GRADUATED SCHOOL IN MINNESOTA IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. BUT WE ALL COUNT NUMBERS DIFFERENT I GUESS. BUT BUT IT'S JUST OF THESE THINGS AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE OVERSTAFFED AND IT HELPS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH PAID PARENTAL LEAVE TOO. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE STAFFING MODEL BUT FOR US AND I KNOW TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT'S ABOUT 1.75 FTE THAT PAY PARENTAL LEAVE IS COSTING US RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S GOING TO GO UP AS OUR OFFICERS MORE OF THEM REACH THAT AGE WHERE THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO HAVE FAMILIES SO ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU CHIEF I LAST BUDGET DISCUSSION IN THE NIGHT AT 5.6 THIS IS OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS MANDATED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO INVITE OUR TWO LEGAL STAFFERS HERE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.  WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT IN PERSON OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON AND OUR DEPUTY ATTORNEY IN CHARGE OF THE CRIMINAL TEAM ON THE TELEPHONE IS WHO I KNOW YOU'VE HAD BEFORE YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES AND PETER FROM THE COMPLIANCE AND CIVIL DIVISIONS RESPECTIVELY SO WITH THAT CAN ELIZABETH CAN YOU ADVANCE MY SLIDES FOR ME AS WE GO AWESOME . THANKS. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S THE INTEREST OF TIME WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT COREY PUTS TOGETHER FOR EVERYONE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING NET EXPENDITURES TOTALING JUST OVER 3 MILLION. THE KEY DRIVERS ARE SALARY AND BENEFITS AND MATERIAL SUPPLIES AND SERVICES AND WE GET INTO MORE DETAILS ON THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE. SO IS THE BREAKDOWN YOU'LL SEE SALARY AND BENEFITS TOTALING JUST UNDER 368. THIS IS LARGELY IN PART OR LARGELY DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL PROSECUTOR AND ADDITIONAL SUPPORT SPECIALIST THAT THE SECOND POSITION WE FUNDED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS BUT THE PROSECUTOR WAS NEEDED DUE TO THE CASE NUMBERS THAT YOU'LL ON SUBSEQUENT SLIDES IN THE NEED TO BE IN COURT NEARLY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK YOU'LL ALSO SEE INFORMATION HERE ON RESTORATIVE COURT OUR NUMBERS GREW SUCH THAT COUNTY WE HAVE A SRED AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY FOR RESTORATIVE SERVICES AND THE COUNTY INDICATED THAT THEY NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON AND SO WE TALKED WITH JAMIE AND YOU ALL AND WERE ABLE TO FIND AN ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON. SO WE HAVE TWO SOCIAL WORKERS THAT ARE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY HENNEPIN COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE A COST SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THEM IN ORDER TO STAFF THOSE SERVICES AT THE COUNTY.  WE HAVE OUTSIDE LEGAL EXPENSES. THIS IS GAP COVERAGE AND ALSO COVERAGE FOR WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS WHICH WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.  THE COUNTY IS SWITCHING TO A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE SYSTEM WHICH REQUIRE US TO PARTICIPATE IN A DIFFERENT WAY . WE'VE COME UP WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS ON THAT THE MATERIALS AND SOFTWARE SUPPLIES THAT IS LARGELY LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY TO OVERCOME THE STAFFING, THE PERSONNEL COSTS AND THE INSERT INTERNAL CHARGES. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT FROM OTHERS. SO I WON'T GET INTO THAT. THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN RED ARE THE BEGINNING OF AN EFFORT BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO CHARGE BACK SOME THE COSTS THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THE VALUE SO TO SPEAK OF LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.  NEXT SLIDE THIS IS THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THERE ARE ABOUT 20 OF US IN THE IN THE DEPARTMENT AND AGAIN BROKEN INTO CRIMINAL CIVIL COMPLIANCE . YOU HAVE A A RISK AND LITIGATION MANAGER THAT WE SHARE WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT A 6040 SPLIT.  THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE THEME OF THIS AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IN THE NEXT THE SECOND PART OF THIS PRESENTATION IS THERE'S A LOT GOING ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'VE HEARD EXCUSE FROM ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THEY'RE ALL ASKING FOR MORE STAFF. THEY'RE ALL TALKING NEW PROGRAMS AND ALL OF THAT IS COMING THROUGH LEGAL FOR THE MOST PART. SO I WILL SHOW YOU ON THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES THAT WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY WHERE WE WERE A YEAR AND TWO YEARS AGO WE ARE TRACKING AND WE PROVIDED MATERIAL TO PREVIOUSLY ABOUT 40 DIFFERENT METRICS OF OUR WORK IN THOSE THREE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AND THEY'RE ALL TRENDING UP. I TELL JAMIE WHENEVER WE MEET THAT THEY ALL LOOK LIKE AIRPLANES TAKING OFF.  SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW SAMPLES TONIGHT. DON'T WORRY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH 40 CHARTS BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE CAN'T WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER THE INPUTS.  WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW OFTEN THE THE OFFICERS PULL PEOPLE OVER WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW MANY DECLARATIONS THE COUNTY HAS THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL WE CAN'T CONTROL ANY CONTRACTS GET OR HOW MANY ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS THERE ARE.  BUT WE CAN ATTEMPT TO MANAGE THE WORKFLOW BY MEETING PROACTIVELY WITH THE DEPARTMENTS WHICH WE DO AND THEN WE CAN ALSO MANAGE OUR LEGAL INVOLVEMENT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND SLIDES. SO IN THIS SLIDE YOU'LL SEE DOCUSIGN WHICH IS THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO ELECTRONICALLY EXECUTE DOCUMENTS WE ROLL THAT OUT DURING COVID AND WE HAVEN'T LOOKED BACK AND YOU'LL SEE ON THAT GREEN CHART DOWN BELOW THERE ARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED AS AN ORGANIZATION AS A RESULT OF USING DOCUSIGN AND WHICHS KIND OF EXCITING 500 AND ú858 OF WOOD SAVED AND THEN CITY BIZ IS OUR ONLINE INTERNAL TRACKING SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO MOVE DOCUMENTS THROUGH THE REVIEW SYSTEM INTERNALLY. SO THERE'S AN ORIGINATOR AND A DEPARTMENT SO THOSE ROUND CIRCLES ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE YEAR 2024. ALL RIGHT. NEXT THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION THIS IS EXCUSE ME THE COMPLIANCE DIVISION.  YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY DO WITH EARN SICK AND SAVE TIME AND PREVAILING WAGE MOST RECENTLY. BUT WHAT YOU MAY NOT ALSO KNOW IS THAT THEY HEAR APPEALS OF ADMINISTRATIVE THEY TAKE ADMISTRATIVE CONFERENCES WITH RESIDENTS AND SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE APPEALING ARE FRUSTRATED OR NEED A WORKABLE PLAN FOR A CODE COMPLIANCE MATTER IT WORKS ITS WAY UP TO THE COMPLIANCE DIVISION AND THEY MEET WITH AMIR AND YOU'LL BE INTERESTED YOU MAY BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT THE MOST COMMON MOST COMMON THINGS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT WITH RESIDENTS ARE CHIPPED PAINT. THESE ARE VIOLATIONS CHIPPED PAINT, ABANDONED VEHICLES AND TRAILERS. NEXT SLIDE.  AND AGAIN, THESE CIRCLES ARE WHERE WE'RE AT. THIS IS THE CRIMINAL DIVISION WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF THE TIME TALKING ABOUT SO OUR PROSECUTORS ALL THE GROSS MISDEMEANORS MISDEMEANORS AND PETTY MISDEMEANOR MISDEMEANORS THAT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHICH MEANS ALL OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE SEE A METRO TRANSIT STATE PATROL IN OUR CITY OF BLOOMINGTON OFFICERS AND WE PROSECUTE THOSE CASES BOTH IN PERSON IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS AND REMOTELY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK YOU'LL SEE HERE THE CRIMINAL CASES OPENED AGAIN WHERE THOSE CIRCLES ARE AND CAN SEE BY THE CHARTS HERE HOW WHERE IT'S GOING THE MOST CONCERNING FOR ME I MEAN I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF IT BUT THE MOST CONCERNING FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT DOMESTIC ASSAULT GET WORSE IS THE CHART IN THE UPPER RIGHT WHICH IS ABOUT THE DOMESTIC ASSAULTS. I'M GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT HERE THE NEXT SLIDE SO SO THIS IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND I THINK IT'S INSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE HOPEFULLY MANY OF YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH IT BUT WE'RE DOWN HERE IN THAT LOWER NAVY BLUE PART AND AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL, THIS IS NOT A VERY INTUITIVE PROCESS AND VICTIMS NEED GUIDANCE WORKING THROUGH THIS NOT ONLY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE TO BE AND WHEN TO BE THERE BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND SO THIS CRIME VICTIM LIAISON THAT WE HAVE ON STAFF WHICH IS A GRANT FUNDED POSITION SINCE 2018 HELPS VICTIMS DEVELOP SOME REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS, UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY SHOULD PARTICIPATE SO THEY CAN BASICALLY PROTECT THEIR ENERGY AND WELL-BEING AND NOT BE RETRAUMATIZED MORE THAN NECESSARY.  NEXT SLIDE OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON IS HERE TONIGHT. MEGAN BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE TWO YEARS SINCE DECEMBER OF A YEAR ALMOST.  SHE'S JUST INTEGRATED HERSELF RIGHT IN WE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE I MEAN FRANKLY I MEAN I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT AT THE TIME BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER IN THIS POSITION IT'S A TON OF WORK AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD WORK WHICH YOU CAN PROBABLY EXPECT. SO KUDOS TO MEGAN EVERY DAY FOR DOING IT SHE TALKS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIFE EVERY DAY FOR A LIVING SO CURRENTLY WE'RE AT ONE FTE AGAIN IT'S PARTIALLY FUNDED THROUGH THE GRANT THAT WE FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING THIS IS AN OJP GRANT WHICH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS GET WE TRY TO GET MORE MONEY BUT THEY REALLY ONLY WANT TO FUND NEW PROGRAMING AND WE WANT TO JUST KEEP DOING MORE OF THE GOOD WORK THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. AND SO THERE'S NOT THAT'S NOT A VERY POPULAR THING TO FUND SO MENTIONED A LOT OF THESE OTHER THINGS BEFORE IN OUR PRESENTATION BUT THESE ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AND AS I SENT TO JAMIE EARLIER TODAY WE HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS WE HAD TO PROSECUTE HER IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA JUST GET PENALIZED BY THE SUPREME COURT FOR FAILING TO MEET THEIR STATR STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR VICTIMS. SO THIS IS REAL STUFF AND THE COURTS TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.  WHAT'S HAPPENING IS BECAUSE WE ARE IN COURT EVERY DAY ESSENTIALLY MEGAN OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON IS IN COURT AS WELL AND SO THE ONLY DAY SHE REALLY CAN REGULARLY BE IN THE OFFICE IS ON FRIDAYS WHEN WE REMOTELY AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR HER TO GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT SHE NEEDS TO DO SO AND WE'RE REQUESTING ANOTHER PERSON THIS IS A THE INFORMATION IS THERE AND WE IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ONLY SEEING AN EXPONENTIAL BUT IT'S BEING THE NEED IS DRIVEN BY TWO OTHER ELEMENTS THERE'S A DRAMATIC IN THE NUMBER OF SCHEDULED HEARINGS IN THE PAST OUR OUR JUSTICE PARTNERS HANDLED CASES DIFFERENTLY AND THAN THEY DO NOW AND THEY'RE JUST A LOT OF HEARINGS WHICH A LOT MORE VICTIM CONTEXT AND THEN ALSO AS I MENTIONED WE'RE SEEING A HUGE INCREASE IN DV CASES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES THOSE RETIREMENTS SERVE AND UNFORTUNATELY INCREASING WE PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION WHAT WE PAY THEM FOR THE SERVICES HISTORICALLY OVER THE OVER THE YEARS AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT WHEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST AND BUT WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO FUND THEIR PART OF IT AS A CONFIDENTIAL VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDER ARE OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON BY COMPARISON IS NOT CONFIDENTIAL. THEY THEY WOULD NEED ONE AND A HALF TO TWO FTE SO AND THEY'RE ONLY DOING THE DV CASES. NEXT SLIDE BEFORE WE GO ON THAT, MELISSA, JUST REAL QUICKLY GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THE I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE UNDER THE WHY I NEED NOW THAT FIRST BULLET THAT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT'S REALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL BECAUSE THAT'S DRIVEN BY BEHAVIOR OF OTHERS WHO ARE OPERATING WITHIN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND SO WHICH WE CAN'T NECESSARILY ASK THEM TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF HEARINGS AS A WAY FOR US TO CONTROL OUR RESPONSE TO THIS.  THANK YOU. THAT'S TRUE OF COURSE TRUE. NEXT SLIDE.  ALL RIGHT, THANKS. BYE.  ALL RIGHT. SO I ALSO WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS THIS PICTURE HERE IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO COURT AND BY THE WAY, YOU'RE ALWAYS YOU'RE ALWAYS ABLE TO SHADOW OUR PROSECUTORS ANYTIME YOU LIKE. JUST REACH OUT ME OR JENNIFER AND WE CAN GET THAT SET UP FOR YOU. BUT IF YOU'RE A VICTIM, YOU'VE JUST GONE THROUGH ONE OF THE WORST PATCHES IN YOUR LIFE AND NOW YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO THIS BIG SCARY COURTROOM AND TRY AND DO YOUR BEST RIGHT. SO IT'S LESS THAN CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ANY OF US,  LET ALONE SOMEBODY IN THAT SITUATION WHAT THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON DOES IS SHE HE OR SHE MOVES BETWEEN THE ATTORNEYS AND IS A CENTRAL POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE VICTIM AND WORKS WITH THE PROSECUTORS TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS GOING ON.  THEY ALSO WORK WITH THE VICTIMS TO PROVIDE VICTIM INPUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THE VICTIMS CAN OFFER SOME NUANCED INSIGHT INTO THE DEFENDANT'S BEHAVIORS SO THAT THEY CAN INFORM THE TYPE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE PROSECUTORS ARE MAKING.  IT ALSO CREATES A RAPPORT IN HER OFFICE AND THE PROSECUTORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THE VICTIMS WISHES INTO THE RESOLUTION OF THE CASE AND ALSO HOPEFULLY PREVENTS OUR PROSECUTORS FROM BECOMING WITNESSES IN THEIR OWN CASES. THE OTHER THING FROM A VERY FUNCTIONAL PERSPECTIVE THEY'RE SENDING LETTERS, THEY'RE REACHING OUT, THEY'RE CALLING THE VICTIMS.  THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE VICTIMS TO SUBMIT AFFIDAVITS FOR RESTITUTION TO TRY MAKE THE VICTIMS FINANCIALLY WHOLE BY ASKING THE COURT TO HELP COVER THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE CRIMINAL ACT THAT THEY EXPERIENCED.  SO AS I MENTIONED A LOT GOING ON NEXT SLIDE AND I THINK I KNOW I MENTIONED IT BUT THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS SO WHAT ARE WE DOING?  TRY AND GET SOME MORE MONEY FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. OUR OPTIONS ARE PRETTY LIMITED AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT GRANTS IN THE CASH SAVING COST SHARING THAT WE HAVE WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY. WE GET A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF FORFEITURES BUT THE LAW IN FORFEITURES HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED OVER THE YEARS AND ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN AND HIGHLY RELIABLE AS FAR AS A SOURCE TO FUND THINGS THAT ARE ONGOING.  BUT THE OTHER THING TO KNOW IS THAT MOST OF OUR REVENUE AND I KNOW I'VE PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION TO YOU PREVIOUSLY GOES DIRECTLY IN THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND. SO WHEN THERE'S FINES AND PENALTIES AND FEES THEY DON'T COME IN TO OUR DEPARTMENT, THEY GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND . ALL RIGHT. LAST YEAR SLIDES SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENHANCE OUR DELIVERY? AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT MONEY IN ENERGY ON EFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THROUGH TECHNOLOGY.  WE'RE ROLLING OUT NEW DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE ALSO ARE WORKING ON A POLICY MODERNIZATION PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO UPDATE AND IMPROVE OUR POLICIES AND CREATE SOME GREATER CLARITY AMONG OUR EMPLOYEES.  WE ARE ALSO SIMILARLY WORKING ON PROCUREMENT CLARITY SO THAT WE CAN MODERNIZE OUR PROCUREMENT, ELIMINATE SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL HOOPS AND STEPS THAT ARE REQUIRED NOT ONLY FOR STAFF BUT ALSO FOR OUR VENDORS. WE ARE WORKING HOPEFULLY THE LEGISLATURE ON THE PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS TO CREATE SOME MORE RESOURCES AT THE STATE TO CHANGE OUR DATA RETENTION AND PROVE THAT AND QUICKEN IT UP SO THAT WE CAN GET RID OF MORE OLD DOCUMENT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP IT IN MORE THAN HAVE NO VALUE ADDED. THE REASON THAT'S PARTICULARLY RELEVANT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE GET DATA REQUESTS WE HAVE TO PRODUCE ALL EXTRA DATA THAT WE ARE KEEPING AND HOLDING ON TO BECAUSE THE DATA RETENTION POLICIES SO OUT OF DATE WE'RE WORKING ON SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH OUR CHANGE ORDER PROCESS WHICH WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE UPCOMING HUGE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON . WE ARE ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPOTS FOR PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN. WE ARE SHARING OFFICES ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO THE POINT AND I DON'T MEAN COMPLAIN BUT THIS IS REAL WE HAVE TO WE HAVE HAD TO ASK SOME EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO WORK IN THE OFFICE TO WORK FROM HOME INSTEAD SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN WORK IN THE OFFICE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO WORK.  SO WE CARRIED OVER SOME MONEY TO DO AN OFFICE REMODEL AND I WAS TOLD THAT I GOT AN UPDATE LAST WEEK BUT IT'S CONTINUING MOVE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AGAIN.  I MENTIONED SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS ALREADY. WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP THAT JENNIFER AND OTHERS DAVID AND JACKSON AND OTHERS ON OUR DEPARTMENT ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION WE JUST HAD A TRAINING ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR STAFF AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP AS WELL. THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING AND EXCITING TO ME. THIS NEXT BULLET POINT ABOUT SUBPOENAS SERVICE EFFICIENCY.  SO WHAT THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON DOES IS REACH OUT TO THE VICTIMS ADVANCE SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE THE THE TIMES THAT THEY'RE GETTING SERVICE OTHER POINTS OF CONTACT FROM THE FROM THE JUDICIAL PARTNERS EFFICIENT AND WE CAN FIND THEM CAN YOU IMAGINE LIKE TRYING DO THIS AND THEN HAVING THE PROCESS OVER SHOW UP AT YOUR HOUSE AND YOU KNOW ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE THE SITUATION BETTER SO OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON IS ABLE TO REACH OUT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS WE'RE WORKING WITH TECHNOLOGY THE EQUITY PROJECT. WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED A RESTORATIVE AND THEN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE HELPING THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS REACH THEIR GOALS.  SO AS EVERY DEPARTMENT WAS ASKED TO COME UP WITH SOME THINGS THAT ARE ALSO UNDER DISCUSSION FOR STOPPING DOING AND SO WE'VE TALKED WITH JAMIE ABOUT ALL OF THESE AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AS WELL AND OUR INTERNAL STAFF WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED REMOVING OURSELVES ARE DEPARTMENT FROM SOME OF THE WORKFLOWS AS A WAY OF REMOVING OUR INVOLVEMENT IN SOME THE LOWEST RISK REVIEW WE ARE PLANNING TO ROLL OUT SOME REDUCED INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AS AGAIN AS A WAY OF MITIGATING RISK ARE MANAGING THE RISK TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE AND DECREASING THE WORK.  THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPTION OF AMENDING OUR CASE RESOLUTION GUIDELINES FOR OUR PROSECUTORS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT OUR OFFICERS WOULD WOULD PULL PEOPLE OVER AND CITE THEM AND WE WOULD NOT PROSECUTE THEM AS JUST AS A DECISION IN ADVANCE LEGAL COUNSEL WE PROVIDE COUNSEL TO THE POURED INTO THE HRA SO STEPPING BACK FROM THAT IS ALSO UNDER DISCUSSION WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE DECREASING INVOLVEMENT IN NON LEGAL FUNCTIONS SUCH THE THE FUN STUFF AND THE OTHER PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS AND THEN THE LAST THING IS AND WE HAVE STARTED DOING THIS ALREADY IS USING OUTSIDE COUNSEL WE PROPOSE USING THEM MORE FREQUENTLY SO WITH THAT FOR QUESTIONS AND AGAIN AS A REMINDER WE HAVE THE DIVISION AND IT DIVISION LEADS HERE IN PERSON AND ON THE PHONE AS WELL AS THE CRIME VICTIM.  THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND UNTIL NO LATER THAN 1115 THIS EVENING I'M GOING TO MOTION IN THE SECOND TO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED OKAY WE'VE GOT UNTIL 1115 LET'S GET THIS DONE ANY QUESTIONS FROM IS AMANDA SAID COUNCILMEMBER NOT A QUESTION JUST A COMMENT I DON'T THINK WE SAY THIS ENOUGH ALL OF YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO SEEING THE GRASS AND SEEING OUR AND THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE TO DO EVERY CONTINUE TO INCREASE YEAR AFTER YEAR KNOWING THAT WE LIVE IN A DYNAMIC COMMUNITY OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE FRONT LINE THE BIG BRIGHT LIGHTS THAT PEOPLE SEE BUT WE DON'T SEE THE WORK IN THE BACK. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU TO YOU IN SPANISH I THANK YOU TO THE ATTORNEYS AND THE STAFF THAT ARE WATCHING IT ONLINE RIGHT NOW. THE WORK YOU DO IS ESSENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE STAY SAFE COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY . THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR.  SO WE'LL SEE THIS YEAR MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.  I WAS SCARED LAST TIME YOU PRESENT AND FREAKED OUT SO IF I JUST LOOK AT THESE SLIDES FOR THE CRIMINAL YOU OUT HERE THIS IS WHAT CAN YOU ROLL BACK A COUPLE TO THE CRIMINAL DIVISION THE CHARTS THERE'S A COUPLE OF THESE ONES WHERE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE 2025. ONE MORE ON HERE RIGHT.  YEAH. SO IS IT IS IT SO BAD THAT A MEMBER FELL OFF MY SEAT WHEN I LOOK AT IT NEXT YEAR OR NO I MEAN WE JUST WE WEREN'T SUPER CONFIDENT IN THE ESTIMATES BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND IN THE OFFICE AND IN THE WORLD AND SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD ONLY STICK WITH STUFF THAT WE FELT PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE NUMBERS ON SO SO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I MEAN I SEE THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE HERE BUT THESE DON'T ALSO REPRESENT A COMPLEXITY OF OF WORKFLOW RIGHT.  I MEAN IF I LOOK AT YOU KNOW, THESE THESE ELEMENTS HERE, THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT TYPES OF , YOU KNOW, COMPLEXITY AND AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THESE THINGS RIGHT. IS THAT A FIRST OR IS ABSOLUTELY THERE ARE CASES THAT ARE PAYABLES THAT ARE COMPLICATED AND THEN THERE ARE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND DWI OF ON THE OTHER END OF IT AND THOSE ARE THE MOST COMPLICATED . SO THAT THAT WOULD BE ALSO I MEAN THERE'S ONLY WAYS YOU CAN YOU COULD CAN DICE IT I GUESS I GUESS MY MY QUESTION IS I KNOW THAT THE LAST TIME THROUGH YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK WE HAD THAT CHANGE WHERE WE GET SHIFTED DOWN TO DOWNTOWN OR ARE WE STILL IMPACTS FROM THAT IN TERMS OF THE WORKFLOW OR HAVE WE MITIGATED SOME OF THOSE SO THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT OF THAT?  I MEAN ARE WE HOUSED ARE WE KIND OF HOUSED DOWN DOWNTOWN IN TERMS OF SO MANY MEMBERS? I WOULD SAY THAT IS IT'S THE NEW NORMAL. IT'S BEEN OUR NORMAL FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND WE'VE ADJUSTED TO IT WE HAVE SEEN A CHANGE BUT WE'RE JUST IN A DIFFERENT POOL OF JUDGES IN A DIFFERENT POOL OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS BUT IT'S JUST THE NEW REALITY. WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO SOUTH DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE AND SO WE ARE LEANING IN AND ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE IN DOWNTOWN.  YEAH AND IT'S SORT OF IT DOESN'T SEEM ADEQUATE.  I MEAN I KNOW AGAIN WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE HERE BUT I'M JUST IT'S VERY SCARY LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS. SO MR. SENTINEL.  YES YOU KNOW, I WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE SEEING THE SURGE IN WORK THAT'S OCCURRING IN LEGAL AND ESPECIALLY IN CRIMINAL.  AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON. ONE IS YOU KNOW, WE WE THOUGHT THAT CRIME IS GOING DOWN WHICH IT IS AND YET WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER CASES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT JUST BPD THAT IS REPORTING ACTIVITY WITHIN BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE OTHER PARTNERS WHETHER IT'S MINNESOTA STATE PATROL OR TRANSIT KNOW SO WE GET CASELOAD FROM FROM OTHER AS WELL THE OTHER THE OTHER THING THAT ADDS TO THE THAT MELISSA'S TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST IS JUST THE THE WAY THAT TECHNOLOGY IS AFFECTING CRIMINAL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IT IT'S A VERY GOOD THING WE HAVE BODYCAMS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, PROTECTING OFFICERS PROVIDING VERIFYING ABLE EVIDENCE OF ACTIVITIES.  RIGHT AND SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY WE THINK THAT BODY CAMERAS A GOOD THING AND THEY CREATE A LOT OF DATA AND A LOT OF DATA TO MANAGE. IT'S A LOT OF DATA FOR OUR STAFF TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TO GO THROUGH DISCOVERY AND IT'S EXPENSIVE.  RIGHT. AND SO A DRIVER THAT'S HERE THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY ISOLATED IS THAT THE LEGAL TEAM'S PARTICIPATION IN OUR TECHNOLOGY THAT MOSTLY IS IN THE POLICE BUDGET IS A IS A REAL DRIVER AS WELL. SO FOR EXAMPLE THE AXON CONTRACT THAT DEALS WITH BODY CAMERAS AND WHATNOT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE PROVIDE SOME MEASURE OF LONG TERM STABILITY IN OUR FUNDING FORECASTS THERE AND MANAGE WHAT WE KNOW TO BE A CONTINUING EVOLUTION IN HOW THAT TECHNOLOGY IS USED FOR THE PURPOSES OF CRIMINAL AND SUPPORT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE EVEN MORE DRIVERS THAN I THINK WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE THAT ARE REALLY CHALLENGING THE OFFICE ITSELF AND THE STAFF BUT ALSO CHALLENGING US FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE. YEAH I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SIDE MIRROR MEMBERS I WANT TO SAY JAN FIVE FOR THE INCREASE IN THE IN THE QUANTUM OF DATA COMING IN THROUGH OUR ONLINE NOT ONLINE OUR BODY CAM EVIDENCE BECAUSE REMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ARE VERY QUICKLY ON CIVIL SIDE YOU MENTIONED THAT THE COMPLIANCE TEAM DEALS A LOT WITH ON UNRESOLVED COMPLAINTS THEY LOOK A LOT LIKE COMPLIANCE RELATED ISSUES TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ORDINANCES CHIP PAINT VEHICLES AND TRAILERS IF THERE'S IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL THAT WOULD REDUCE THAT NUMBER. I THINK YOU HAVE AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE YOU HAVE AN EAR AS AN EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW DO I THINK THAT 24 HOURS ON THE ON THE SITE ON A PUBLIC ROAD IS TOO MANY HOURS? NO. WHAT IF IT WAS EIGHT?  WOULD YOU GET HALF THE CASES THAT YOU DO? I HAVE NO IDEA. LIKE I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE THINKING A LITTLE BIT INNOVATIVELY ABOUT SOME OF THAT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS. IF WE THOUGHT COULD PULL THAT OFF OF YOUR DOCKET BECAUSE THEY ARE SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY RIGHT.  I MEAN I HAD THIS ARGUMENT WITH Y'ALL WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR RVS. WHAT'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 40 FOOT RV AND A 43 FOOT RV LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND LIKE THE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. RIGHT. I KNOW YOU THINK THERE IS BUT I DON'T THINK THERE OH I JUST SAID THREE FEET. THREE FEET. RIGHT EXACTLY. BUT THE POINT I'M MAKING YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN THAT WILL ACTUALLY EASE THAT BURDEN FOR YOU AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER BRINGING THEM TO US BECAUSE I THINK AT LEAST I WANT TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND SAY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A AND YOU WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY OPEN TO THE IDEA. YEAH SO IT MAY MAYOR REMEMBERS IT'S CHIPPED PAINT OVERSIZE AND ABANDONED VEHICLES WHICH TYPICALLY MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE UP TO DATE TABS OR LICENSE. THEY'RE MISSING LICENSE PLATES OR THEY'RE ALL THEIR TIRES ARE FLAT OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THE THREE MOST REPEATERS WITH REGARD TO PREVIOUS CHIEF HODGES, YOU A PREVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING WITH NEXT YEAR AND KNOWS THAT I THAT I THINK THE NUMBERS SUPPORT ANOTHER PROSECUTOR IN ANOTHER ATTORNEY BUT FRANKLY AT THIS POINT WE DON'T MEAN TO PUT THEM SO I HAVEN'T PUSHED VERY HARD BUT WE THE NUMBERS THEM AS YOU CAN SEE I MEAN THIS IS A HUGE INCREASE SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AROUND BUT AND CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR I MEAN WE HAVE CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL BUT THOSE ARE SOME REALITIES.  MR. FARRAGUT NOTHING MORE NO.  SO AGAIN WE HAVE THE CRIME VICTIMS ON HERE AND THE OTHER FOLKS IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ?  WELL, I MN MR. VERHEUGEN THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS. JUST LET ME REMIND THE OF YOU AND ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING AT HOME HOW THIS WHOLE MISHMASH WORKS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE MORE SORT BUDGET PRESENTATION DAY FOR YOU WHICH IS NOVEMBER 18TH. WE'LL BE BRINGING IN YOU SOME OF YOU SOME OF THE SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED YET. AND THEN NOVEMBER 25TH I'LL COME IN WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE TIE ALL OF THIS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW THE COMMENTS AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE PROVIDE THAT RECOMMENDATION NOVEMBER 25TH FOR HOW WE GET TO A FINAL BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT HOPEFULLY WE'RE WE'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND AND TRYING FIGURE OUT WHERE THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO LAND ON A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS AND AND STILL MAINTAIN OUR PRIORITIES. SO THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS WILL UNFOLD.  ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS  ON THAT COUNCIL?  ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU MISMANAGE THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US THIS LATE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR BEING HERE.  OUR LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING IS THAT IN 5.7 OR CITY COUNCIL POLICY IN ISSUE UPDATE I'LL KICK IT OFF ON OUR LISTENING SESSION THAT WE HAD EARLIER THIS EVENING.  WE HEARD FROM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FOUR OR FIVE FOLKS FIVE FOLKS I GUESS MARC GENCO HAD SOME GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT BICYCLE SAFETY AND WAYS TO MAKE THINGS A BIT MORE SAFE FOR OUR TWO WHEEL FRIENDS ON THE STREETS OF BLOOMINGTON SALLY NESS TALKED AGAIN WHY HER NAME WAS ON PAST POLICE REPORTS A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED A NUMBER OF TIMES AND CONTINUES TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US. AND THE QUESTION AND THE ANSWER DOESN'T CHANGE BUT WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM BUSINESS WITH THAT BRIAN WOLF FROM THE NINE MILE CREEK, THE RESTORE THE NINE GROUP CAME AND THANKED US ACTUALLY FOR THE WORK, THE INVOLVEMENT AND THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT ON IN THE WORK THAT AS AS THE THE PROJECT PLANNING PROCESS WENT ON FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR CAME THROUGH AND WE HAD SOME GOOD TO SAY GARY TURNESS WHO IS A I THINK A BOARD MEMBER OF THE BOARD CHAIR OF THE REAL LIFE COOPERATIVE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICE PROPPING OPEN DOORS AND WE WE SAID WE WOULD BE TALKING TO A CHIEF HODGES ABOUT THAT AND TRYING TO COME TO SOME RESOLUTION ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT WORK OUT BOTH FOR THE WORK THAT THE POLICE TO DO BUT ALSO FOR THE SECURITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE FOLKS AT THE REAL LIFE COOPERATIVE AND JERRY HILLER IN IT HAD SOME QUESTIONS CONCERNS REGARDING THE BLOOMINGTON HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER I PARTICULARLY DUPLICATIVE OF SERVICES AND THINGS THAT WOULD BE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AS WELL AS CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOSS.  A SPECIFIC AND UNIQUE COMMUNITY SENIOR CENTER FOR FOR SENIORS HERE IN THE CITY OF SO A GOOD A GOOD CONSOLE LISTENING ONCE AGAIN I HAVE NOTHING ELSE MR. FAROOQUI DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THERE THIS EVENING NOTHING FOR MR. ROONEY COUNSEL TO HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING FORWARD TONIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER ONE THING VERY QUICKLY REMINDER THAT APPLICATIONS FOR THE LEARNING TO LEAD PROGRAM ARE DUE THIS THURSDAY I THINK OCTOBER 31ST IS THE CUTOFF SO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL WANT TO JOIN THAT COHORT AND WE KNOW IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. I'M GOING TO SEND SOME QUESTIONS TO TO STAFF ABOUT THAT PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH IT US TO RUN IT AND IF WE COULD DO IT MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR BECAUSE I'VE HAD AN UPTICK IN PEOPLE INTERESTED BUT MAYBE THE TIMING DOESN'T WORK AND STUFF SO I THINK IT'S A PROGRAM WORTH EXPANDING MYSELF BUT ANYWAY IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED I THINK IT'S VERY SIMPLE IT'S BLAMED ON MEN THAT LEARNING TO LEAD I THINK IS HOW YOU GET TO THE WEBSITE BUT OCTOBER 31ST IS THE LAST DATE TO JOIN. THANKS ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SOMEWHAT AGAIN MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO WE ARE ADJOURNED THANKS MUCH COUNSEL.  THANKS EVERYBODY FOR TUNING IN TONIGHT. THANKS TO THE STAFF EVERYBODY HAVE A HAPPY HALLOWEEN