##VIDEO ID:rxW-pwQZWug##  GOOD EVENING AND LATE TO CALL THE TUESDAY JANUARY 28TH 2025 HOUSING A REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING TO ORDER. WE DO HAVE QUORUM THIS EVENING SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THIS EVENING'S AGENDA HEARING AND SEEING NONE BE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL TO APPROVE OR I'D BE LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL FOR THE TUESDAY JANUARY 28TH AGENDA. SO WE LEAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MUELLER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOUA TO APPROVE AGENDA ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOR A TO ZERO MOVING ON TO ITEM 3.1 THE JANUARY 14TH 2025 INTERIM BOARD MEETING MINUTES THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE TO THOSE MINUTES HEARING AND SEEING NONE WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 14TH, 2025 H.R. BOARD MEETING MINUTES TO APPROVE WE HAVE A MOTION MADE, COMMISSIONER. I'LL MAKE IT. MR. STAND BY COMMISSIONER MUELLER TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 14TH 2025 BOARD MEETING MINUTES.  IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR REPLACING SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION FOR A ZERO MOVING ON TO ORGANIZATION OF BUSINESS 4.1 2024 A YEAR AND HRA BUDGET CARRY OVER ME WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS ERIC KELLY I AM WITH FINANCE ACCOUNTANT.  I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE BUDGET CARRY OVER OF REMAIN THE 2020 BUDGETED EXPENDITURES 2025 THESE EXPENDITURES WERE APPROVED IN 2024 AS PART OF THE BUDGET BUT IT WAS NOT FULLY SPENT ON WE ARE LOOKING TO CARRY OVER THE REMAINING BUDGET FROM THE HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROGRAM WHICH WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ARP BACK IN 2011. I MEAN 2021 TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WAS ALLOCATED ABOUT $11.4 MILLION IN THE ERP FUND $250,000 OF THAT SENT TO A JURY FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WAS FULLY UTILIZED IN 2024 AND ANOTHER $250,000 WAS SENT TO EACH FOR PREVENTION PROGRAM AND UNDER THAT HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROGRAM WE HAVE $175,000 AND 65.9% REMAINING INTEREST STAFF WORKED DILIGENTLY SECURE THE CONTRACT WITHIN THREE VENDORS WHICH ARE ONLINE TOUCHSTONE MENTAL HEALTH BOYS FOR USE IN BLOOMINGTON AND IT WILL ALREADY COMMITTED AND WILL BE FULLY EXPENDED BY THAT DEADLINE WHICH IS IN 2026.  WE REQUEST THE BOARD TO APPROVE AND TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION FOR THIS 2024 IRP BUDGET CARRYOVER FUNDS INTO 2025. THANK YOU.  NO THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS HEARING NO QUESTIONS WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ALL THREE ALTERATIONS TO THE APPROVED BUDGET THROUGH THE APPROPRIATION OF 2024 BUDGETED EXPENDITURES TO BE CARRIED OVER INTO 2025. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ASKING COMMISSIONER WOOTEN TO APPROVE OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE.  ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOR 214420I APOLOGIZE I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM 4.2 IS A 2024 A YEAR END BUDGET ADJUSTMENT MAY WE HAVE THAT STAFF REPORT THANK YOU TO YOUR ACCOUNTANT ERIC LEE I'M HERE FOR THE 2024 YEAR END BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AND BUDGET TRANSFER REQUEST FOR YOUR APPROVAL AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL PROCESS THE BATTERIES REQUIRED TO MAKE THESE ADDRESSED ONE ON THE BUDGET TO REFLECT THE ACTUAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES HERE I HAVE LAID OUT A BUDGET OF ONE AND BUDGET TRANSFER. BUDGET TRANSFER IS THE ONE HIGHLIGHTED IN GRAY ON THE ATTACHMENT FIRST GOING OVER THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF ADJUSTMENT. FIRST IS BASICALLY MOVING FROM UNDERSPEND CATEGORIES TO OVERSPEND TO REPLENISH BALANCE. SECOND IS UTILIZING THE FUND FOR THE OVERSPENT EXPENSES IN THE RENT CHECKS ON THE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM AND REHAB LOANS ARE THE MOST OVERSPENT ACCOUNT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK NOTE ON HERE THAT THESE ARE REIMBURSED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND IT'S ALREADY REIMBURSED SO IT WON'T BE AFFECTING THE CASH BALANCE. BUT I HAVE TO INCLUDE TO ADJUST THE BUDGET SIDE SO THIS IS ONLY COVERING THE BUDGET SITE UH THE GRADE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS THE BUDGET TRANSFER REQUEST AND THAT IS TO BECAUSE EACH AREA MANAGES AND OVERSEES THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND REVOLVING LOAN ACCOUNT WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO THE FUND IN A SEPARATE FUND ACCOUN SO THAT'S A TRANSFER REQUEST FROM INTERNAL FUND TO THE INTERN TO THE OTHER INTERNAL FUND.  UM WE REQUEST THE BOARD TO APPROVE AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION FOR THE YEAR END 2024 YEAR IN BUDGET ADJUSTMENT BUDGET TRANSFER REQUEST THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS HERE HEARING AND SEEING NO QUESTIONS WE'D BE LOOKING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING 2024 YEAR AND BUDGET ADJUSTMENT AND TRANSFER REQUESTS BY THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AND AND FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO APPROVE THEM MUCH MY COMMISSIONER WOULDN'T IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MUELLER TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I'M I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES 4 TO 0 MOVING ON TO NEW ITEM 5.1 THE MINNESOTA HOUSING BRING IT HOME RENTAL PROGRAM APPLICATION MAY WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT GO.  GOOD EVENING. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS ANA SALVADOR ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THE MINNESOTA HOUSING BRING IT HOME RENTAL PROGRAM BY APPLYING FOR THE PROGRAM BLOOMINGTON CAN EXPAND VOUCHER ACCESS WITHIN THE CITY .  OKAY. CAN YOU JUST ADVANCE SOME QUICK BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY THE MINIMUM GRANT AMOUNT FOR BLOOMINGTON IS 1.2 MILLION WHICH RESULTS IN ABOUT 100 MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE VOUCHERS FOR THE COMMUNITY.  THESE FUNDS ARE FUNDED THROUGH A MIX OF BOTH STATE APPROPRIATE FUNDS AND THE METRO SALES TAX THAT WERE PASSED IN 2023 AND THE PROGRAM IS MODELED AFTER THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM AS AN ELIGIBLE APPLICANT HAVE THE OPTION TO UTILIZE EXISTING HCV PROCEDURES.  UTILIZE PROCEDURES WITH SOME PREAPPROVED AMENDMENTS OR PROPOSE A COMPLETELY ALTERNATIVE PLAN FOR.  ADMINISTERING THE FUNDS AND FUNDING WILL ALSO BE MADE AVAILABLE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES AND STARTUP COSTS INTO AN IN ADDITION TO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE GRANT THIS WOULD MEAN CAPACITY ADD STAFF TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM ONCE THE BUILD OUT OF IT IS COMPLETE.  HOW WE ENVISION THIS PROGRAM LOOKING IN BLOOMINGTON FOR THE BLOOMINGTON APPLICATION STAFF IS PROPOSING TO OUR EXISTING HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROCEDURES WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS MINNESOTA HOUSING HAS OUTLINED A LIST OF PRE-APPROVED MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER BASED ON FEEDBACK RECEIVED FROM HOUSING AUTHORITIES  THE STATE THEY ADDRESS WELL KNOWN BARRIERS WITH THE PROGRAM AND ALSO SIMPLIFY OR FOCUS ON SIMPLIFYING ADMINISTRATION WHERE THE IDENTIFIED CHANGES WHICH ARE ON THE BOARD OR ON THE BRD ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU ALIGN WITH FEEDBACK. WE'VE ALSO FROM PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS THE REGULAR RECERTIFICATION AND APPOINTMENTS HERE AT OUR OFFICE WE'VE PULLED THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND INTEND TO CALL OUT SPECIFIC ONES IN OUR RFP APPLICATION.  WE WERE CAREFUL WHEN CONSIDERING THE MODIFICATIONS WITH THE INTENTION OF NOT CREATING MORE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLEXITY BETWEEN HCV PROGRAM AND BRING IT HOME RECOGNIZING THAT WE MOST WILL HAVE SOME STAFF THAT OVERLAP AND WORK ON BOTH PROGRAMS WE WANTED TO KEEP IT AS SIMILAR AS POSSIBLE BUT.  REALLY IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A BLOOMINGTON SPECIFIC NEED OR JUST A WAY TO SIMPLIFY ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM SO THE CHANGES INCLUDE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PURSUE CHANGES TO THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD AND OUR GOAL IS TO ALIGN THAT DEFINITION WITH THE CITY'S DEFINITION OF FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW THROUGH THE CO-LIVING ORDINANCE AND THAT IS ON TRACK TO BE FINALIZED BEFORE WE WOULD NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM SO WE'D HAVE A FINAL DEFINITION THAT WE COULD PRESENT TO BOARD ONCE WE'RE SELECTED THE OTHER THE NEXT TO REALLY FOCUS ON PROJECT BASED ASSISTANCE.  SO THE FIRST ONE BEING ALLOWING FOR PROJECT BASIS WITHOUT LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS RECEIVING ASSISTANCE PER PROPERTY OR ADDRESS. SO THIS POTENTIALLY COULD MEAN THAT WE COULD PROJECT BASE AN ENTIRE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHICH IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE UNDER UNDER THE FEDERAL PROGRAM ADDITIONALLY FOR PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS IT WOULD BE ISSUANCE OF PROJECT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE WITHOUT THE HUD REQUIRE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS IF THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED FOR OTHER REASONS UNDER STATE OR LOCAL LAW. SO WE EXPERIENCED THIS BUT USING A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE UNDER 700 AMERICAN THAT EXTENDED THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THEM FOR UPWARDS OF SIX MONTHS JUST BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS.  SO THIS ESSENTIALLY COULD MEAN GETTING BASED VOUCHERS ONLINE MUCH QUICKER. WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS TO WORK EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY USING THEM KIND OF AS A PRESERVATION MECHANISM ALMOST WITHIN EXISTING PROPERTY. SO SPECIFICALLY UNDER THIS PROGRAM WE ANTICIPATE A LOT OF MOVEMENT PROJECT DISCLOSURES. THE LAST ITEM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS A MODIFICATION WHICH IS AGAIN BEEN PRE-APPROVED MINNESOTA HOUSING IS ALLOWING ELIGIBLE ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS APPLY USING AN INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. SO UNDER THE FEDERAL IF A MEMBER OF A HOUSEHOLD DOESN'T HAVE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, THEIR ASSISTANCE IS EFFECTIVELY PRORATED.  THIS WOULD ALLOW A HOUSEHOLD TO RECEIVE FULL ASSISTANCE THE PROGRAM REGARDLESS OF WHAT IDENTIFICATION NUMBER THEY USE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN. I JUST WANTED TO LIST OTHER PRE-APPROVED MINNESOTA HOUSING MODIFICATIONS STAFF ONCE AGAIN REVIEWED THESE AND EITHER DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD CREATE SOME SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE CHALLENGES WITH SHARING STAFF BETWEEN OR IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS A NEED IN BLOOMINGTON BASED ON CURRENT FEEDBACK FROM PARTICIPANTS NEXT SLIDE PLEASE IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS UPON BOARD APPROVAL WE WOULD PREPARE AN APPLICATION THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE DISCUSSION THIS WE BASED ON MOST RECENT GUIDANCE FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING EXPECT THAT APPLICATION TO OPEN IN ONCE THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED. WE ANTICIPATE KNOWING IF WE'RE SELECTED BY FALL OF THIS YEAR THEN ONCE WE'RE SELECTED WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH MORE DETAILED ADMINISTRATION GUIDELINES AND THINGS FOR APPROVAL.  THANKS.  THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER WHEN GIVEN THE STATE OF AFFAIRS HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH THESE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGING THAT, DO YOU FEDERAL LEVEL DO WE SEE ANY CHALLENGE TO BEING ABLE TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM? THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER. SO AGAIN, THIS PROGRAM IS COMPLETELY FUNDED THROUGH STATE DOLLARS SO SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. I WILL ALSO ADD ANOTHER ADDED BENEFIT OF IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM IS IT CAN CREATE A BACKSTOP FOR OUR FEDERAL VOUCHERS NEEDED IF WE WERE TO SEE OR EXPERIENCE INSUFFICIENT FUNDING AT GIVEN TIME. SO IN OUR CURRENT ADMIN PLAN WALK US THROUGH HOW WE COULD ADMINISTER THOSE AND THE PRIORITIZATION OF THAT AS WELL . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?  HAVING SEEN OTHER QUESTIONS WE'D BE LOOKING AT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 OR LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION 2020 5-03 AUTHORIZING APPLICATION TO THE MINNESOTA HOUSING BRING IT HOME RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM . SO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MUELLER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WOOTEN TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2020 5-03 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NO DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AM I OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FOR A ZERO MOVING ON TO AN TO DISCUSSION ITEMS ITEM 6.1 BLOOMINGTON AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAM WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT.  THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS MIKE CLAREMONT ASSISTANT HRA ADMINISTRATOR.  HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BLOOMINGTON AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAM OR BY OR SOME PEOPLE CALLED BOB. I KNOW BUT I THINK MORE THOUGHTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE NAME BUT I'LL PROBABLY CALL IT THE BOB PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD BUT I TO PREFACE THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE KIND OF GOT THREE STOPPING POINTS WHERE WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE OPEN DISCUSSION BUT IF YOU HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN THE DISCUSSION ITEM BUT YOU HAVE IDEAS FOR THINGS. WE CAN USE THOSE TIMES TO KIND OF INTO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS . THAT'S WHERE ARE SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT THE PROGRAM SO IT'S FUNDED THROUGH MINNESOTA HOUSING WE WERE AWARDED A $3,199,500 GRANT WHICH AMOUNTS TO 118,500 FOR 27 SINGLE FAMILY OR MISSING MIDDLE HOMES TO BE CONSTRUCTED THAT WILL BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW.  WE HAVE UNTIL APRIL 2027 TO GET THOSE HOUSEHOLD HOUSES BUILT AND SOLD. SO A LITTLE BIT OF A TIGHT TIMELINE BUT YOU'LL SEE KIND OF HOW WE PLAN TO DO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM. SO MINNESOTA THE IMPACT FUND WITH MOST GRANTS HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. SO WE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF TRIP A LOT OF DEVELOPERS UP WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH OTHER ABOUT MAKING SURE UPFRONT THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS VISITS ABILITY STANDARDS SO IF YOU'RE NOT VISIBILITY ABILITY IS NOT QUITE ADA REQUIREMENTS BUT IT'S ALONG THOSE LINES WHERE IT MAKES A HOUSE MORE ACCESSIBLE THE DOORS ARE CERTAIN WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE WHEELCHAIRS.  THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN COUNTER HEIGHTS AND THINGS DOOR HANDLES AND WHATNOT THAT ARE NOT ROUND THAT ARE LEVERS SO LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT DON'T REALLY ADD A WHOLE LOT TO YOUR HOUSE BUT IN CONSTRUCTION BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT WILL ADD UP QUICK SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE IN THE DESIGN TO BEGIN PREVAILING WAGE IS ANOTHER ONE THERE ARE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS BASED ON HOW MUCH FUNDING PER HOUSE GO SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PREVAILING WAGE AGAIN ARE THAT CONTRACTORS ARE BEING PAID THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT AND REQUIRING THE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS AND THERE'S ALSO THE GREEN COMMUNITIES CRITERIA THIS IS FROM THE ENTERPRISE ENTERPRISE COMMUNITY BASICALLY IT'S A SCORING SYSTEM THAT YOU GET BASED ON DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN YOUR HOUSE. SO EACH HOUSE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS CRITERIA AND MEET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND PART OF THE REASONING FOR THAT IS MORE EFFICIENT HOUSE MORE UTILITY BILLS THE HOMEOWNER IT'S MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THAT END USER.  SO THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF BUILT RIGHT INTO THE PROCESS SO IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THESE 27 UNITS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPERS WORKING. WE ENVISION MULTIPLE ROUNDS HAPPENING.  WE REALLY ARE LOOKING AT THIS FIRST PHASE WE'RE CALLING MORE OF AN RFQ OR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFIED STATIONS AND I'LL GET INTO SOME MORE OF THOSE DETAILS.  BUT THOSE SELECTED IN THE RFQ REALLY HELP KIND OF GUIDE HOW WE DO MORE OF AN RFP REQUEST FOR FOR EMERGING DEVELOPERS IN THE SECOND ROUND. SO I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE DETAILS AND THERE MIGHT EVEN BE A THIRD ROUND DEPENDING ON AVAILABLE SITES.  SO THIS FIRST PHASE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS AND WE'RE CALLING IT THE PILOT A ROUND ONE PILOT WE REALLY ARE LOOKING TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER THAT'S ABLE TO SECURE FINANCING AND THAT UNDERSTANDS PUBLIC FINANCING YOU KNOW IT'S COMING FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER STIPULATIONS PREVAILING WAGE ETC. THERE WE ENVISION THEM PURCHASING THE PROPERTY FROM US THEY'LL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A HOME AND THEN THEY'LL SELL THE HOME TO A QUALIFIED APPLICANT AND THE TIME WE EXPECT THEM TO PARTNER WITH US ON THIS AND UNDERSTAND OPEN THEIR THEIR BOOKS SO WE THE TRUE COST OF DEVELOPING BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING AS WELL THAT THIS IS NOW ALMOST TWO YEARS FROM THE APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT COSTS AS WE KNOW CONTINUE TO RISE. WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRUE NEED IS TO MAKE THIS AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES AND THEN ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND JUST TEST OUR BLOOMINGTON SYSTEMS, OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS, OUR PERMITTING PROCESS OR OUR INVOICING. ARE WE ABLE TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL FOR EMERGING DEVELOPERS OR WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WHERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON WITH EMERGING WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS AND HELP KIND OF GIVE US THAT GUIDANCE.  SO THE IDEAL CANDIDATE THAT WE WOULD SELECT IN THIS FIRST ROUND WOULD HAVE AGAIN SOME EXPERIENCE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY'VE DONE SINGLE FAMILY OR TWO FAMILY HOMES OR MODERATE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE THINKING FIVE PLUS EXAMPLES WOULD A GOOD STARTING POINT SO BUT ALSO HAVE BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE A TEAM AND ARE ABLE TO MANAGE A IT TAKES A LOT OF MEMBERS TO DEVELOP JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOME BESIDES YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPER YOU NEED FINANCE TEAM YOU NEED DESIGNERS TO DESIGN THE HOUSE AND AGAIN VISIBILITY STANDARDS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. YOU HAVE YOUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MARKET TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE HOUSE SO SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE THAT CAPACITY THAT TEAM TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE THEY FAMILIAR AGAIN WITH KIND OF HOW PUBLIC SUBSIDY WORKS IN PUBLIC PROGRAMS WORKS DO THEY HAVE FAMILIAR WITH THAT IDEALLY WITH THE IMPACT ONE,  THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE WHO HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. IT'S NOT A NEW PROGRAM BUT OTHER FUNDS ARE ALSO JUST BEING ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THEY WILL HAVE TO SECURE SOME FINANCING TOO. SO THIS IS GAP FINANCING TO BRING DOWN THE PRICE BUT YOU KNOW 118,000 AND CHANGE OR A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE OR THERE AND AGAIN YOU NEED SOME FINANCING TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE HOME THEY WILL BE MAKING MONEY OFF OF THIS ARE DEVELOPERS THAT IS THE GOAL THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF BUT YOU KNOW BEING ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE AGAIN FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND THEN KNOWING MARKET HOW TO SELL A HOUSE AND CAPACITY AGAIN JUST BEYOND JUST THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY PROJECTS THEY'RE WORKING ON DO THEY HAVE THE TIME TO DO AND BEING ABLE TO GET THE PROJECT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THEN AGAIN THAT WILLING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HRA AS WE REALLY LOOK TOWARD THE NEXT PHASE WE SEE THEM AS A CRITICAL ROLE IN MAKING SURE THAT NEXT PHASE IS SUCCESSFUL . ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL ALSO HIGHLIGHT THERE ARE SEVERAL EMERGING DEVELOPER PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE ARE HOPING TO TAP INTO FOR ROUND TWO. BUT IF THIS DEVELOPER OR DEVELOPERS WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE ONE OR MANY SELECTED HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH THOSE PROGRAMS OR HAVE SOME ABILITY TAP INTO THOSE PROGRAMS AND ARE ABLE TO KIND OF WORK WITH THOSE GRADUATING FROM THOSE PROGRAMS. SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THEM WOULD BE HELPFUL AS THEY'VE BEEN THERE AND CAN HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW TRANSITION AND UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE THINGS THAT NEW DEVELOPERS ARE OFTEN TRIPPED UP ON.  SO IN THIS FIRST ROUND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THREE SITES THAT THE HRA OWNS.  THEY'RE READY TO DEVELOP THEIR VACANT LOTS. WE THINK EACH ONE HAS A LITTLE UNIQUENESS TO IT THAT I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TESTING SOME OF OUR PROCESSES. SO LET'S GO THROUGH THIS FIRST ONE YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THESE ARE PART OF THE THEY WERE PART OF THE HUMBOLDT LOT RIGHT AWAY LOAN ACQUISITION FUND THAT TRANSFERRED TO THE HRA BUT.  IT'S NOT ON HUMBOLDT AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY IT'S ON 82ND STREET SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ONRAMP TO 35 W THEIR CHALLENGE ON THIS ONE IS THAT THERE IS SOME RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS THAT ARE EASEMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IN THE FRONT YARD WORKING WITH THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT THEY SAY THEY ASSURE IT IS VERY CAPABLE TO DO THIS AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY KNOW A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES RIGHT NOW THAT COULD WORK ON THIS PROPERTY SO THE STEVENS LOT THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER A LOT SO MAYBE THERE'S POTENTIAL EITHER JUST MIGHT SPLIT AND DO TWO UNITS OR DO A TWO FAMILY HOME AND THEN BLAISDELL A LOT I GUESS IS NOT AS UNIQUE. IT'S JUST A NORMAL LOT SIZE BUT AGAIN A BIG GOAL OF THE PROGRAM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE AND GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS SO AS THE ENTRY COMMISSION THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT TOUCH POINTS THAT WE'LL HAVE THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT PROCESS THIS IS KIND OF OUR INTRODUCTION. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE PROGRAM SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT AND THEN LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL COMING BACK IN A SHORT TIME WITH DIFFERENT DECISION POINTS. SO FIRST BEING HERE WHEN WE GET THE RFQ AND WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SELECTING THAT FIRST OR DEVELOPER OR DEVELOPERS SO THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST DECISION POINT YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE PLANNING APPLICATION THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO DO AND THEN WE'LL ALSO THEN TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND WORK TO CONVEY THE LAND THAT THEY WILL BE PURCHASING FOR US. SO THAT'S ANOTHER DECISION POINT THAT THE HRA WOULD MAKE AND THEN WE'LL WORK INTO PHASE TWO. WE ARE WORKING IDENTIFYING SOME SITES FOR THAT AND AS WE IDENTIFY THAT THOSE SITES WE WILL BE LOOKING TO THE HRA BECAUSE IT WILL LIKELY REQUIRE US TO PURCHASE THOSE SITES. SO AGAIN WE WOULD NEED AUTHORIZATION TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD AND NEGOTIATE FOR A DIFFERENT SITE AND THEN SIMILARLY WE PUT AN RFP OUT AGAIN WE WILL BE SELECTING DEVELOPERS, PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM AND LOOKING FOR WE PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL ON THOSE AND THEN SIMILARLY IT COULD HAPPEN LATER ON IF A SUBSEQUENT PHASE AFTER THAT SIMILAR PROCESS WE MIGHT NEED TO PURCHASE OR THERE MIGHT BE OTHER DECISION POINTS.  SO I GUESS THE FIRST DISCUSSION POINT IS ANY THOUGHTS THIS KIND OF PILOT THEN MOVE INTO A SECOND ROUND WE WILL THEN WORKING WITH EMERGING DEVELOPERS AND USING THAT INFORMATION THE PILOT TO SUPPORT THAT SECOND ROUND ANY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THAT POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE CONCERNS ,COMMISSIONER? WELL WELL THE FIRST THE FIRST PLOT HOW MANY HOMES ARE THESE SO THREE SITES BUT HOW MANY HOMES ARE YOU LOOKING CLEAN UP? IS IT THREE OR IS IT POSSIBLY FOR LARGER LOT BEING IT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY FOUR. YEAH AND.  SO IN DOING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE DEVELOPER OR POSSIBLY TWO THAT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.  I THINK IT WILL DEPEND IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH WE MIGHT WORK WITH TWO OR POSSIBLY THREE BUT ADMINISTRATORS EIGHT MIGHT HAVE. YEAH, IT'S A COMMISSION. I THINK IT'LL ALSO DEPEND ON THE PROPOSALS RECEIVE SO WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO PROPOSE WORKING WITH US ON ALL THREE PROPERTIES OR IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE JUST WORKING WITH ONE. SO IT'LL VARY A LITTLE BIT ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER'S PREFERENCE AND WHAT THEY SUBMIT TO US.  SO IN THAT VEIN I'M I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW LONG IT USUALLY TAKES TO PUT UP A PROPERTY LIKE THIS GIVEN SOME OF THE VARIANCE THAT MAY BE NEEDED AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS. WHAT IS THE PROPOSED TIME FRAME BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCES OF CONSTRUCTING A QUALITY HOME FROM DESIGNING TO OPENING DOORS I CHAIR COMMISSIONER RULED IT FROM CONVEYING THE LAND CONSTRUCTING I MEAN IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 6 MONTHS FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE HOUSE BY GOING THROUGH YOUR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION MIGHT IT DEPENDS ON HOW COMPLICATED THEY MAKE IT BUT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T TOO DIFFICULT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME MAYBE A MONTH LEADING UP TO SO IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO LONG OF A PROCESS FOR BUILDING IN TO YOU KNOW UNDERSTANDING THAT PHASE TWO PROBABLY WON'T BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE SITES WE HAVE TO THERE MIGHT BE SOME PREP LEADING UP TO THAT THAT WON'T BE GOING OUT UNTIL NEXT YEAR AT THE EARLIEST SO THEY HAVE SOME TIME TO COMPLETE IT.  HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR THEY'LL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION WITH EARLY COMPLETION OF NEXT YEAR. AND REFRESH MY MEMORY PLEASE ON THIS FURTHER THEY EXPAND IT BY WHEN 2027 OKAY YEAH CHAIR MEASURES I MIGHT JUST ADD THAT THE HOMES HAVE TO BE SOLD BY 27 AND ALSO I THINK IN MY EXPERIENCE WHAT I'VE SEEN SLOW DOWN PROCESS IS FINANCING SO IT WILL JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MIKE SAID IT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY QUICK PROCESS IF WE'RE WORKING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE AN EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER AND ALSO SOMETIMES THE FINANCING ESPECIALLY THIS MARKET DEVELOPMENT IS JUST IS A CHALLENGE. SO AND THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND KINKS AND CHALLENGES DURING THIS PILOT PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER RESPONSE AND PREPARED FOR OPENING UP A BROADER ROUND. YEAH, COMMISSIONER MUELLER, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED CLARIFICATION BUT SO WE HAVE THE THREE PILOT HOMES ARE IS NOTHING GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE NEXT HOMES UNTIL THESE ARE DONE I CHAIR COMMISSIONER MUELLER THAT'S OUR THOUGHT YES THESE ARE READY TO WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER SITES THAT ARE READY TO GO THAT I'LL KIND OF GET INTO. BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF DO THIS AT SCALE. IT HELPS TO DO MULTIPLE SITES AT ONCE. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO COMPILE ENOUGH SITES FOR AROUND TWO THAT WOULD MAKE IT ADD THOSE EFFICIENCIES FOR A DEVELOPER SO AGAIN WITH KEEPING IT SMALL PILOT IT SHOULD GO QUICKLY ENOUGH THAT WE CAN THEN LEARN AND APPLY THAT TO THAT ROUND TOO, RIGHT ? YEAH. OKAY THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WOOTEN. AND CLARIFICATION GIVEN ME IMAGINE THAT ROUND ONE WILL NOT INCLUDE EMERGING DEVELOPERS.  UM CORRECT. IT WOULD MORE TARGETED TOWARDS SOMEONE WITH MODERATE EXPERIENCE NOT NECESSARILY A LARGE CORPORATION. AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT PARTNERSHIP.  WE'VE TALKED WITH A FEW DEVELOPERS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED WHO WORK WITH THE EMERGING DEVELOPER PROGRAMS THAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD FIT WITH THIS BUT THAT'S HOPE OR THAT'S THE THOUGHT FOR ROUND ONE THAT THEY WOULD KIND OF BE A TEST CASE USING THAT INFORMATION ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY GO AFTER FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN SAY HEY, IT TURNS OUT COST ACTUALLY IS THIS MUCH IN 118,000 DOESN'T GET US CLOSE ENOUGH AND WE HAVE THE PRO FORMA AND THE DEVELOPMENTS TO ACTUALLY DO THAT TO SUPPORT THOSE NEXT PHASE COMMISSIONER MM HMM.  FEATURE HOW FEW QUESTIONS DO HAVE WE HAD THE DEVELOPERS REACH OUT ALREADY INDICATING INTEREST IN THIS WE HAVE WE'VE TALKED WITH THREE DEVELOPERS SO FAR THREE OR FOUR THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST AND SOME WOULD BE BETTER FITS THAN OTHERS BUT OKAY AND THEN HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING MORE THAN THREE IN THIS INITIAL ROUND JUST THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TIMELINE BUT WE'VE GOT LIKE 26 MONTHS ESSENTIALLY TO SPRINT THROUGH 27 HOUSES AND IF I, I MEAN EVEN THE BIG DEVELOPERS DOWN IN LIKE LAKEVILLE TRYING TO PUT UP 27 HOUSES THAT ARE HAVING A HARD TIME DOING THAT RIGHT NOW AND SO I'M WONDERING LIKE DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE HOUSES IN THIS INITIAL ROUND TO REALLY PROVE OUT BECAUSE THINK THESE LOTS IN PARTICULAR ARE PRETTY EASY THEY'RE ALL HOUSES ALREADY TORN DOWN LIKE IT'S RELATIVELY EASY GET IN AND OUT BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT MAKES SENSE TO ADD LIKE MAYBE ANOTHER THREE HOUSES THAT ARE MORE DIFFICULT THAN WE CAN THESE MORE EXPERIENCED DEVELOPERS TO WORK THROUGH THOSE SO THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE EMERGING DEVELOPERS WE HAVE THIS DOWN, THE PROCESS IS READY AND YEAH AND THEN WE DON'T IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE SUCH A BIG MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB BECAUSE WE WOULD ONLY HAVE 21 HOUSES INSTEAD OF YOU KNOW 24 TO GO AFTER AND THAT'S A LOT,  YEAH.  CHAIR COMMISSIONER MUELLER THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT AND I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE WITH SOME OF THE SITES WE CAN GO THROUGH. IS THERE ANY OTHER I'D SAY ONE LAST QUESTION I HAD ON THAT. WHAT ARE THE LIKE CHECK POINTS CLAWBACKS LIKE RECONCILIATION LIKE IF A DEVELOPER'S LIKE I WANT TO DO THIS BUT THEN THEY SAY NEVER MIND, I DON'T WANT TO WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? WHAT'S FALLBACK PLAN WAS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP WITH THIS TIMELINE AND BE ABLE TO PIVOT?  YEAH, I COMMISSIONER WE WOULD LIKE WE WOULD I SAID WE WOULD ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THEM TO COMPLETE DIFFERENT STEPS AND IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THOSE STEPS THEN YOU KNOW THE AGREEMENT IS IN BREACH AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER. IT MIGHT BE AS SIMPLE AS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS RFQ OUT MOVING TO THE NEXT ON THE LIST THAT WAS NOT SELECTED BUT THOSE ARE THAT'S A POINT WE SHOULD MAYBE THINK ABOUT FLESHING OUT LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION I'M WONDERING IF WHAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IS HOW MANY HOMES WERE ALLOWING EACH DEVELOPER TO TO DO IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE YOU CAN DO TEN, YOU CAN DO EVERYONE CAN ONLY DO TWO OR YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE LIKE WHAT'S IS THERE A MINIMUM MAXIMUM THAT WE'RE ALLOWING DEVELOPERS IN EITHER ROUND TO DO.  MM YEAH AND PHASE ONE I THINK BECAUSE IT'S ONLY THREE SITES I MEAN IF WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE WHO SAYS I CAN MAKE I CAN ONLY MAKE THIS WORK IF I HAVE ALL THREE I THINK WE MIGHT CONSIDER THAT I THINK IT WILL REALLY DEPEND ON AGAIN WHO SUBMITS BUT I THINK THE THOUGHT IS IF THEY'RE DOING PHASE ONE THEN THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY MORE AFTER THAT PHASE TWO IS RESERVED FOR EMERGING DEVELOPERS AND MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THEM FOR TO BE THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO BE MENTOR OR WHATEVER THAT CONTRACT WITH BUT THAT PHASE ONE THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE PRIMARILY FOCUSED I THINK IT WILL REALLY DEPEND ON HOW HOW MANY SITES THAT WE SECURE AND WHEN WE SECURE THEM TO DETERMINE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THERE IS EFFICIENCIES BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO EMERGING DEVELOPERS WE DON'T WANT THEM WORKING ON TEN HOMES WHEN THEY'VE NEVER ACTUALLY BUILT THIS BEFORE.  SO I THINK THERE IS A BALANCE TO BE HAD ON WORKING ON MULTIPLE SITES BUT NOT BEING OVER ZEALOUS OR OVEREXTENDING YOURSELF AND CHAIRING COMMISSIONERS.  I'LL JUST ADD OF THAT WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS AROUND THIS WHAT MORE FOCUSED ON PHASE TWO WHAT WOULD WE WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE? AND I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE 3 TO 5 WOULD BE AN IDEAL NUMBER . THERE'S ALSO IN ECONOMIES OF SCALE. SO IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY THAT COULD CHANGE BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY CONSIDERING BECAUSE LIKE MIKE SAID, WE WANT TO HAVE THAT BALANCE OF WITH A VARIETY OF EMERGING DEVELOPERS AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WORK.  I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. I MEAN THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM AND THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT OF IT IS THERE'S GOING TO BE QUIRKS. THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES TO WORK OUT. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH MINISTRY OF HOUSING.  SO I'M GUESSING WE'RE JUST SAYING  COMMUNICATION IF WE COME INTO WORK IT'S KIND OF AN EBB AND FLOW TYPE OF A SITUATION. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY LIKE THIS IS VERY MUCH JUST MEETING WITH MINNESOTA HOUSING TOMORROW TO CONTINUE TO GET FURTHER YOU KNOW DETAILS MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING ON THE REQUIREMENTS AND YEAH I APPRECIATE THAT JUST KIND OF THAT CLARIFICATION THAT THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM YES OUT THE GATES FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING AS WELL SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LOTS OF LEARNING TO DO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS I THINK AND I THINK THAT BRINGS UP A POINT TOO THAT IF WE CAN SUCCESSFULLY DO THIS LIKE FUTURE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS MORE GRANT FUNDING CONTINUE TO GROW THE PROGRAM YEAH IS THERE ANY CONCERN THAT THE EMERGING DEVELOPERS WILL BE SLOWER THEIR BUILD AND SUCH AND HAVE WE FACTORED IN TIME ON NOW YEAH CHAIR COMMISSIONER MUELLER THAT IS A CONCERN YEAH AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IF WE CAN HAVE STRONG PARTNERSHIPS WE WOULD TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER TO CAN HOPEFULLY HELP WITH THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO LONG THAT AND CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS IF I COULD ADD ALSO SO PART OF THE PURPOSE OF DOING THE STRUCTURE IN THIS WAY AND HAVING AN EARLY PILOT IS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE DEMONSTRATE PROGRESS IN MOVING FORWARD FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS ONE ALLOWS IS ALLOWS US SOME MORE TIME TO WORK ON THE OTHER SITES THAT AREN'T QUITE READY OR SITES THAT AREN'T EVEN ACQUIRED YET SO WORKING ON DIFFERENT VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES AND ALSO KIND OF REALLY DEMONSTRATING THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM DEMONSTRATING SOME SUCCESS GETTING SOME DEVELOPMENT STARTED THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OF DOING IT WITH THIS KIND OF STRUCTURE.  COMMISSIONER MOUA AND THEN COMMISSIONER THANK YOU CHAIR WHAT WORK HAVE WE DONE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA OBVIOUSLY IS A NEW PROGRAM MANY HOUSE CALLS PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW HAVE WE DONE ANY PRELIMINARY WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS JUST TO START GETTING THE WORD OUT AND WORKING WITH THEM? CHAIR COMMISSIONER MILLER NOT QUITE YET. WE MET WITH COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT DIVISION JUST LAST WEEK TO KIND OF START OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN BECAUSE PART OF IT WE ENVISION IS GOING TO HAVE A LET'S TALK PACKAGE TO KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND EVEN SPECIFICS DIFFERENT SITES AND WHERE THEY ARE IN CONSTRUCTION AND THEN JUST TALKING BROADLY WE'RE WORKING ON A COMMUNICATIONS PN WITH COMMUNICATIONS UPSTAIRS SOOU KNOW DOCUMENT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A VISIBLE PROGRAM AND WE WANT TO SHOW THOSE SUCCESS AND GREAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SO KNOW GREAT VISUALS FROM VACANT LOT TO THAT TO A YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY A SMILING FAMILY MOVING INTO THEIR NEW HOME WE DON'T HAVE QUITE THE DETAILS BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT COMMISSIONER AND I GUESS ALONG THE SAME LINE HOW ARE WE LINING UP PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNERS CHAIR COMMISSIONER WE HAVE SEVERAL PARTNERS ALREADY THAT WE WORK WITH WITH LIKE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND HOME READINESS PROGRAMS.  SO THE INTENTION IS WILL RELY ON THOSE FIRST BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING ENTER HOMES AND MAKE SURE TO CONNECT THOSE WITH THE DEVELOPERS. PART OF IT IS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD HAVE TO MARKET THESE SITES SO IF THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE PEOPLE READY BUT I SUSPECT THEY YOU KNOW WE HAVE THESE PROGRAMS FOR A REASON THAT WE CAN PLAY MATCHMAKER BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S THE DEVELOPER TO GET HOMEOWNERS IN THERE. CAN I ASK ANOTHER COMMISSIONER ONE SO MAYBE NOT TRACKING THIS CORRECTLY BUT WE HAVE 40 TO PROPERTIES OR 42 FAMILIES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY IN RENTAL FOR MOST NOW.  ARE ANY OF THOSE FAMILIES GOING TO BE CONSIDERED? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.  SO THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE JOE WELL HELP UNDERSTAND HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED? I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.  TELL ME HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE. YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.  I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE IF WE CAN PUT IN A PREFERENCE WHERE THE FUTURE OWNERS COME FROM BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONNECT WITH.  YEAH I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THERE ARE FAIR HOUSING THAT IN MY HEAD THAT I DON'T QUITE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO BUT THAT IS A GOOD POINT. I MEAN WE WE ARE FINDING THESE PROGRAMS TO GET PEOPLE READY AND THEY WANT WE CREATED THIS PIPELINE WE SHOULD BE IT RIGHT RIGHT YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CONSENT. YEAH. SO AND I'LL JUST AND ONE LAST THING ON MY END OR I THINK I'M KIND OF FEELING LIKE WE'RE KIND OF CLOSING DISCUSSION ONE IS I DO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THREE THE THREE SITES I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT SITES TO START WITH.  SO I THINK THEY'RE NICE CLEAN EASY SITES SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD THAT PILOT BASE I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT IN THERE.  SO SPEAKING OF SITES SO THOSE WE RATED HIGH THEY'RE READY TO GO. WE OWN THEM THEY'RE CLEAN SITES THAT SHOULD BE LIKE YOU SAID SIMPLE TO DEVELOP FOR PHASE TWO. WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME OTHER LOCATIONS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE RAIL SLOTS THAT TWIN CITIES HABITATS WORKING ON SO WE ARE CONSIDERING USING THAT THOSE SITES AS WELL AGAIN UTILIZING THEIR EXPERTIZE AND GLEANING INFORMATION FROM THEM FOR THAT PROCESS BUT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER SITES WE'VE EARLIER ABOUT SYNDICATED OXBOW LAKE SITES WE DO NOT OWN SOME PROPERTIES WE THIS AS SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY HOME IT COULD POTENTIALLY A TOWNHOME IT JUST NEEDS TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED SO THAT MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHERE AN APARTMENT BUILDING GOES IN AND WE USE THE REMAINING LAND TO FIVE TOWNHOMES OR SOMETHING SO PART OF WHY WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE THREE SITES IS THEY'RE READY TO GO. THERE'S STILL SOME WORK ON OTHER SITES WE'VE GOT THOUGH AND THERE ARE LOTS THAT YOU MIGHT FAMILIAR WITH AGAIN TOWNHOMES PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE THERE SO NOT EXACTLY OUR FIRST CHOICE BUT IF WE ARE NEEDING TO CONSTRUCT A BUNCH AT ONCE THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.  YEAH AND SO THERE'LL BE MORE DISCUSSION AS WE GET IN ON THESE THERE ARE THERE ARE LOTS THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT ALSO EXPLORING WHAT THOSE TRUE INTENDED USES ARE FOR AND WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS TO IT. SOMETIMES THEY TO BE RE ZONED, SOMETIMES THEY'RE GUIDED FOR CONSERVATION ACTION AND THE QUESTION IS DO THEY REALLY NEED TO BE CONSERVATION OR SO THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH ON SOME OTHER SITES BUT WE WILL KEEP YOU POSTED AS WE NAIL THOSE DOWN.  YEAH.  SO ON THE SITE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT'S POSSIBLE TOWNHOMES THOSE ARE GOING TO BE INDEPENDENT FREESTANDING WITH NO FEES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.  THEY'RE NOT AT THAT POINT IDEALLY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO TOWNHOMES. I THINK THE POINT OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE A SINGLE BUT YEAH I THINK THAT WOULD YEAH AS WE GET THERE WE WILL DEFINITELY BE SOLICITING YOUR INPUT ON HOW WE SHOULD STRUCTURE THAT BUT I AGAIN I DON'T I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF HIS AGAIN WITH AND KEEP IT CLEAN AND SIMPLE SO YEAH FINDING WAYS TO MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR THE END USER. ONE THING I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY TOO IS JUST REMEMBER WITH TIMELINE THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST DISCUSSION THEY'RE COMING BACK TO US MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE FEEDBACK. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT THIS ISN'T THE ONLY DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS IS GOING TO COME MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AS AND MORE LIKE DETAILED INFORMATION LIKE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE AS.  THEY PROGRESS THROUGH THE PROCESS.  ONE THING WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT TOO IS PARTNERSHIPS BEYOND THAT PHASE ONE DEVELOPER HOPEFULLY HELPING US . WE WANT TO TAP INTO OTHER PARTNERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.  WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH HOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WORK TALKING AGAIN WITH MINNESOTA HOUSING THEY'VE TRIED FINANCE A HOUSING FUND. THEY PROVIDE FINANCING. LISC HAS THEIR EMERGING DEVELOPER PROGRAM AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AT COUNCIL ANALYZES PARTNERS.  I THINK THAT'S A SAFE FUNDING PARTNER QUICKTYPE I DON'T KNOW IT'S BETTER THAN THE QUESTION MARKS THAT SHOWED UP IN THE BACK BUT YEAH A POTENTIAL PARTNER LIKE I SAID AS WE GET MORE DETAILS ON WHY COSTS ARE WE CAN MAYBE REACH OUT TO THEM FOR FURTHER FUNDING AND THERE'S OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVEN'T MET WITH WITH LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT CENTER LAND BANK OF TWIN CITIES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO KIND OF BROACH THE DISCUSSION WITH AND SEE WHERE THEY CAN FIT IN . BUT I THINK THAT BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT QUESTION IS OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO UNDER OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT FOR SUPPORTING THIS PROGRAM UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE KIND OF OUR NORMAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND POLICIES BUT DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING CONNECTED WITH THE PEOPLE WITH EXPERTIZE.  DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS?  SORRY. YEAH, I WAS WONDERING THE ONE THAT KIND OF CAME TO MIND AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE BUT LIKE MAC V I'M JUST KIND OF A IN YEAH I DON'T KNOW THEY LIVE VETERANS HOUSING YEAH YEAH YEAH I THINK IT'S YEAH I WE'VE HAD GREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT WASHINGTON TO GO DO OTHER POSITIONS. I FULLY EXPECT US TO TAP THOSE RESOURCES. YEAH. MM HMM .  YEAH. THEIR DISCUSSION POSSIBLE PARTNERS.  AND I'LL SAY IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING LATER YOU KNOW I ALWAYS WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO AND THEN GETTING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE DETAILS OF THE FUNDING SO THE THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED IT'S GOING TO THE DEVELOPER TO HELP KIND OF BUY THE COSTS A LITTLE BIT THAT GRANT ALLOCATIONS IS 118,000 PER UNIT AND THAT ONLY GOES SO FAR. SO WE'RE HAVE SOME INITIAL SAYING IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE MORE SUBSIDY WITH JUST HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE. SO WE ARE EXPLORING ARE EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS. YOU KNOW WE MENTIONED MID COUNCIL WITH THE VOTE I'M FORGETTING THE ACRONYM NOW BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT YEAH LOCAL HOUSING INCENTIVES ACCOUNT YEAH LARGE A COULD BE AN OPTION OR HENNEPIN COUNTY HAS THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE FUND WE'VE GETTING LARGER FUNDS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIT WITHIN THIS SO AND IT COULD EVEN JUST BE ASKING FOR MORE IMPACT FUNDS BECAUSE WE'D HAVE THIS DATA YOU KNOW SHOWING DEMONSTRATING THE NEED. SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT SO SOME OF THESE REQUIRE APPLICATION RESOLUTIONS SO WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE TO KIND OF PREFACE THAT MOVING FORWARD AND OUR NEXT STEPS IS TO KIND OF FINALIZE OUR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, PUT THAT OUT, CONTINUE TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT SITES, WORK THROUGH OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THEM. WE NEXT STEPS FOR THE HRA BOARD WOULD BE SORT SELECTING THOSE FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM. I THINK WE SAID WE WOULD EVENTUALLY THEN CONVEY THE LAND TO THEM AND ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WELL AND AT FUTURE SITES THAT WE NEED TO PURCHASE YOU WOULD AUTHORIZE US TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT AND YEAH FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SO ANY OTHER INPUT THAT YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TIMELINE CONCERNS WHICH TRUST ME WE HAVE THOSE TWO BUT ANY OTHER THOUGHTS IN THE PROGRAM OR THINGS THAT WERE MISSING OR COMMISSIONER WOOTEN AND I HAVE SOME IDEAS I CAN'T REALLY NOT BE HERE RIGHT NOW BUT I WANT TO BACK UP HERE. SO FOR THE 118,000, IS THERE GOING TO BE A CERTAIN ALLOTMENT OR THAT WILL BE PAID AT ONCE OR HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED?  THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW THE FUNDS ARE DISTRIBUTED TO US IF IT'S AFTER YEAH CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS I BELIEVE WE CAN REQUEST A CERTAIN AMOUNT UPFRONT FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING AND THEN FUTURE DISBURSEMENTS WOULD BE REIMBURSEMENT BASED. I BELIEVE WE CAN REQUEST A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT UPFRONT UP TO A THIRD I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK BUT THEN WE WOULD DISPERSE IT TO DEVELOPERS YOU KNOW THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS DEVELOPMENT PROCEEDS AND THIS IS KIND OF PARTLY WHERE HAVING THAT FUNDING PARTNER OR THAT FINANCIAL INSTITUTION BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INITIAL CONSTRUCTION LOAN KNOWING THAT ON THE BACK END THEY'RE GETTING THIS SUBSIDY BACK.  SO THAT'S PART OF THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND THEN IN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT SUBSEQUENT TO QUESTION IS THERE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ON WHAT THE GAP WOULD NEED TO BE OR POSSIBLY COULD BE IF 118 ISN'TOOD ENOUGH?  YEAH. CHAIR COMMISSIONER WHEN THAT IS GOING TO BE KIND OF ON EACH SITE AND UNDERSTANDING THE DEVELOPER AND EACH HOME I THINK IS GOING TO BE SITE SPECIFIC AND DETERMINING I THINK WE WILL AFTER THIS FIRST PHASE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT CAP SHOULD BE AND BY ALSO KNOWING THAT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING OTHER FUNDS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE PROGRAM THEN MAYBE IT IS DOWN TO A 60% AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR OPPORTUNITIES . SO THERE IS KIND OF THIS WIGGLE ROOM THAT I CAN'T GIVE YOU A FIRM ANSWER ON BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEED TO DISCUSS TO US OF JUST KNOWING THAT SITE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS TO US AND BELIEVE IS BUT IS THERE ANY PLACE ELSE IN THE CITIES THIS HAS BEEN DONE THAT YOU CAN PULL RESEARCH FROM YOU COMMISSIONER WOOD OR CHAIR COMMISSIONER WE WERE IN MINNEAPOLIS A PRETTY ROBUST PROGRAM AND ACTUALLY OUR PORT AUTHORITY PORT AUTHORITY ADMINISTRATOR WAS OPERATING UNDER THE IMPACT FUNDS. SO HE'S BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE AND UNDERSTANDING AND SAINT PAUL ALSO HAS A PRETTY ROBUST PROGRAM.  THE STRUGGLE IS FINDING ANOTHER SUBURBAN COMMUNITY THAT'S DOING AT THIS SCALE BLOOMINGTON'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE TWO CORE CITIES IN THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE OF LOTS THAT GO EITHER TAX FOR FAIR OR THAT ARE WE CAN GET IT REALLY AFFORDABLE PRICE I MEAN YOU'VE SEEN WHEN WE ACQUIRE LAND IT'S 100,000 AT LEAST SO THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN OUR LOTS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO BLOOMINGTON COMPARED TO OTHERS. BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WE WERE WITH A DEVELOPER THE OTHER DAY AND AND THEY WERE SHOWING US THEIR SAINT PAUL SITE AND JUST GOING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO DO AT SAINT PAUL THAT WE WOULD WOULD OR WOULDN'T WANT TO DO HERE IN BLOOMINGTON . SO WE ARE REVIEWING THEM THEIR POLICIES AS WELL .  COMMISSIONER MILLER, LATER I GOT TO I'M REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD ME SAY ALL THE TIME THAT HOME OWNERSHIP IS SOMETHING I'M SUPER SUPER INTERESTED IN . I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE THE TIMELINE IS REALLY MAKING ME REALLY NERVOUS.  I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU'RE CONCERNED AS WELL BUT I'M STARING AT THIS GANTT CHART YOU GOT HERE WITH THE DATES AND IT'S MAKING ME ITCH . SO FOR ME THE FASTER WE CAN GET THROUGH THE RFQ AND GET THESE BUGS WORKED OUT I'D REALLY DO WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD DO TWO OR THREE MORE HOUSES JUST TO REALLY PROVE OUT I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR US BUT YEAH THIS TIMELINE IS IS REALLY REALLY TIGHT. YEAH SO AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T SPEND THE FUNDS IT GOES BACK.  YES. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS YEAH THERE IS OPPORTUNITY REQUEST AN EXTENSION FROM MINNESOTA HOUSING AND AND UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE CAN BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THAT BUT THAT PART OF THE GOAL OF THE PILOT IS AS YOU SAID TO PROVE IT OUT AND PROVE THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WHEN WE ASK FOR THE EXTENSION WE HAVE SOME SOMETHING TO SHOW AND HOW WE'VE DEMONSTRATED SUCCESS SO FAR ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.  ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION?  YEAH, I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED.  THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE IT AND LIKE I SAID IF YOU THINK OF OTHER THINGS FEEL FREE TO EMAIL AND FOR TO INCORPORATE THAT ON OUR FOLKS. THANK YOU.  ALL RIGHT. MOVING ONTO AN I'M 6.2 IT'S ADMINISTRATOR R UPDATE.  YES, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UPDATE NOW YOU HAVE AT LEAST ONE UPDATE FOR US. YES, SHARON. COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE TO SO I AM SURE MANY OF YOU SAW THE NOTICE THE FEDERAL ORDER PAUSING DISBURSEMENT  FEDERAL GRANTS AND LOANS FROM LAST NIGHT.  I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT. OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD HAVE VERY FAR IMPACTS ACROSS THE NATION AND YOU KNOW FOR THE HRA OUR LARGEST FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM IS THE HCV PROGRAM WHICH IS ABOUT 65 TO 70% OF OUR BUDGET WE DID RECEIVE JUST JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING THAT THAT PROGRAM IS NOT SUBJECT TO THIS PAUSE SO WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH SOME RELIEF AN ASSURANCE THAT THE RENT CHECKS PLANNED FOR FEBRUARY CAN GO FORWA WITHOUT ANY ANY ISSUES.  SO WE WILL BE RECEIVING FUNDS AS SCHEDULED FOR THAT PROGRAM . SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION KIND OF AROUND OUT THERE. I'M SURE WE'LL ALL SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT DAYS.  THAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES AS OF NOW.  SO HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM TOO. THE LIMITED INFORMATION THAT I HAVE THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.  AND THEN THE SECOND UPDATE WAS JUST I KNOW I'VE BEEN REPEATING A LOT BUT THE NEXT MEETING NOW IS THE ANNUAL MEETING AND ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THERE ARE A LOT OF STANDING ANNUAL THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THAT MEETING AND ONE IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.  SO THERE'S THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND TREASURER SECRETARY SORRY.  AND SO IF ANYONE IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE INTEREST IN THOSE ROLES I RECOMMEND JUST REACHING OUT TO THE CHAIR SO WE CAN VOTE THE PROCESS OF NOMINATING AND APPOINTING SOMEONE TO THOSE WILL TAKE PLACE AT THAT MEETING. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO HAVE ON THAT CAN GO TO OUR CHAIR HUGGING THERE AND I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS ONLINE PLEASE NOTE THAT TO THAT MEETING THE ACTUAL THE OFFICERS THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW WILL FINISH OUT THAT MEETING AND THE NEW OFFICERS TAKE APPOINTMENT. THE FOLLOWING MEETING SO THE LAST MEETING IN FEBRUARY SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY I PERSONALLY AM TAKING MYSELF OUT OF THE RUNNING FOR CHAIR FOR NEXT YEAR I WILL BE STEPPING DOWN.  I HAVE A STEPDAUGHTER WHO WILL BECOME SENIOR. I AM IN THAT SCHOOL PART TIME FINISHING UP A DEGREE. SO IT'S JUST IT'S NOTHING.  I LOVE THIS POSITION. I JUST FEEL I CAN DEDICATE MORE TIME BY STEPPING DOWN AND NOT HAVING TO DO ALL THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF RUNNING THE MEETINGS. SO JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY THAT SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT AND HAVE THE HEADS UP ON THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.  ARE THERE ANY OTHER UPDATES CONCERNS FROM COMMISSIONERS THIS EVENING?  ANY OTHER UPDATES WITH THAT?  WE'D BE LOOKING TO ADJOURN THE TUESDAY, JANUARY 28TH, 2025 HRA MEETING WOULD ADJOURN AGAIN WE HAVE OUR MOTION BY COMMISSIONER I WON'T NOW SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MUELLER TO THE MEETING ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES ZERO AND WE ARE ADJOURNED