WHO AROUND DISTRICT FOR CITY COUNCILOR NOW THE CHAIR OF THE BOSSIER CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS. TODAY IS NOVEMBER 24, 2025 THE EXACT TIME IS 2:03 P.M..
THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED IS ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED AT BOSTON DARK BACKSIDES CITY COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST ON EXTENDED CHANNEL EIGHT OUR
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AGE, M.A.S.H. O U H AND HAVE BOSTON.COM FOR THE LINKING YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON MULTIPLE DOCTORS AS FOLLOWS DOCKET NUMBER 1967. MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR YOUR
APPROVAL IN ORDER TO REDUCE DEATH BY 26 APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY $6,733,196 TO
PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE APPLIED 26 INCREASES CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE BOSTON POLICE PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION.
DOCKET NUMBER 1968 MATCHES IN ORDER FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY APPLY 26 IN THE AMOUNT IS SIX $6,733,196.
TO COVER THE NY 26 CAUSE ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE BOSTON POLICE PATROLS MINNESOTA IN THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT
OF JULY 1ST 2025 THROUGH JUNE 30TH 2026 IT MADE A PROVISION THAT THE CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE INCREASE OF 2% AND 1% INCREASE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY DIFFERENTIAL. THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS
REFORMS RELATED TO POLICE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND REQUIRE OFFICERS TO WEAR NAMETAGS DATED NUMBER 1969 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR YOUR
APPROVAL IN ORDER TO REDUCE TO NY 26 APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY $506,452 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON
PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION FOR THE NY 26 INCREASES CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION AND SEIU LOCAL 888
PROGRAM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT DOCKET NUMBER 1970 MESSAGE THE ORDER FOR SUPPLEMENT THE APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION
FOR THE FY 26 AND THE AMOUNT OF $506,452 TO COVER THE EMPLOYEE 26 COST ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION
AND SEIU LOCAL 88 PROGRAMS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT. THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT COVERS OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2027. THE MAJOR PROVISIONS CONTRACT
INCLUDE BASE WAGE INCREASES A 2% ALONG WITH FLAT DOLLAR WEEKLY INCREASES TOTALING AN ANNUAL INCREASE OF 500 200 550 THEN $500 TO BE GIVEN IN
JANUARY OF EACH. THE CONTRACT TERM THE AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES AMENDMENTS TO THE LONGEVITY SLASH CAREER WARS AND RECLASSIFICATION SIGNS ON
LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEES. THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY MAYOR MITCHELL WHO REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 19, 2025. TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND ORDER
ARRIVAL COUNCIL FITZGERALD CASTLE WEBER AND THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE COUNCILOR PEPEN. I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE ADMINISTRATION PANEL FOR THEM
TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ON THEIR PRESENTATION. THE FLOOR IS NOW YOURS. THANK YOU CHAIR WORLD AND
COUNCILORS OFFICE GERALD WEBER AND ALL IN COUNCIL PREPARED MY OWN CITY COUNCILOR. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
TODAY. MY NAME IS JIM WILLIAMSON, THE BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN. I'M JOINED BY RENEE BUSHBY FROM THE OFFICE OF LABOR RELATIONS
OF LUMINARY WHO IS A SENIOR LABOR ADVISER TO THE MAYOR DAVID SAUSAGE IS FROM THE LABOR TEAM AT BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH
COMMISSION AND JOHN WILTON FROM THE GLOUCESTER POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE LABOR GROUP AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR RANK SO JOHN BROWN FROM THE BOSTON
POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT UH AND SO WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THESE FOUR DOCKETS AND OF YOUR IMPLICATIONS WITH CITY BUDGET
ARE THE THE AS YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE INTRODUCTION DOCKETS 1967 AND 1968 MOVE $6.7
MILLION OUT OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET FUND. THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE BOSTON POLICE
PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION IN DOCKETS 169197 MOVE $506,000 OUT OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE INTO THE BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION
BUDGET TO COVER THE UNION CONTRACT BETWEEN PHC AND THE SEIU PROGRAMS. THE PROJECT AS WAS APPROVED IN
THE FBI 26 BUDGET IS FINALIZED IN JUNE 2025 THAT INCLUDED A $102.7 MILLION COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE IN AGGREGATE THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR TOTALING $58.5 MILLION. AND WITH THESE THESE FOUR
ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTALS THAT TOTAL $7.2 MILLION, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED WILL WILL HAVE APPROVED 6.5 $65.8 MILLION
WITH WITH THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THESE LAST FOUR DOCKETS WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANYBODY ON THE ON THE CITY PANEL IF THEY WANT TO
A STATEMENT OR WE CAN GO RIGHT TO QUESTIONS BY THEIR COUNCILORS LOU. AMANDA RAINEY HERE, SENIOR ADVISOR TO MAYOR WU FOR LABOR. I THINK WE WILL MOSTLY DEFER TO
THE COUNCILORS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE AGREEMENT . LET'S SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS UP TOP. THIS IS A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE HERE TO CATCH
OUR BREATH TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LARGEST POLICE UNION REMAINS UNDER CONTRACT. I THINK THIS IS THE THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WE WANT TO BE DOING IN THE ADMINISTRATION. WE HAD A LOT OF STUFF SORT
OF STACKED UP. WE SORT OF STITCHED IT ALL TOGETHER AND DID A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT HERE. BUT I KNOW IT'S SORT OF TRADITIONAL TO DO THREE AND FOUR YEAR AGREEMENTS AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE NATURE
OF THIS IS THAT THERE ARE LARGE PERIODS OF RETROACTIVITY WHERE WE SUBSEQUENTLY SETTLE AND THEN GO BACK AND PAY OUR WORKERS. WE REALLY DON'T CARE FOR THAT AND YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM THE
FACT THAT WE'VE HAD TO SETTLE EVERY CONTRACT IN THE CITY ESSENTIALLY TWICE IN THE FIRST TERM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO TARGET NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTS THAT A PRETTY GOOD
PLACE IS TO SORT OF DO STUFF LIKE DO PEOPLE UNDER CONTRACT WITH ONE YEAR DEALS AND THIS KIND OF A THING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO PROMULGATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE THINK TO KEEP OUR WORKERS PAID AND MAKE
SURE THAT THEY HAVE RAISES AT REGULAR INTERVALS SO THAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS AGREEMENT. THIS IS THE NATURE OF THIS ONE YEAR AGREEMENT. AGAIN, WE'LL LEAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCILORS TO ASK SUBSTANTIVE QUESTIONS.
I WON'T GET INTO THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF THE OVERALL PANORAMIC VIEW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN MY OPINION.
THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL GO TO COUNCILORS FOR QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GO TO COUNCILORS AND ORDER ARRIVAL STARTING STARTING WITH COUNCILOR FITZGERALD. WHEN YOU SEE ME POP BACK ON THE
SCREEN THAT MEANS YOUR TIME IS UP. COUNCILOR FITZGERALD THE YOU A THANK YOU CHAIR. APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND BY THE POLICE TO BE HERE TODAY.
YOU KNOW I SUPPORT THE ONE YEAR CONTRACT AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BRIDGING SORT OF NOT GOING WITHOUT A CONTRACT FOR TOO LONG AT A TIME AND SO LOU, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY
TO GO FORWARD WITH THESE CONTRACTS. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TIMING FOR IT BECAUSE I THINK I THINK FAIR NEGOTIATIONS WERE MADE ON BOTH SIDES TO GET THIS DONE.
BUT IT BEING ONE YEAR I'M THINKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE AHEAD AND DO YOU GUYS KNOW SORT OF WHAT YOU HAVE AS GETTING THE NEXT THREE YEAR FOR YOU
WHATEVER DEAL COMES UP MULTI-YEAR DEAL WHEN THAT WILL BE NEGOTIATED BY? WELL I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK THAT IMPINGE ON THIS.
WE HAVE TO FINISH THE OTHER ONE YEAR CONTRACTS WITH THE OTHER THREE BARGAINING UNIT. SO WE HAVE THE DETECTIVES, DETECTIVE SUPERIORS, THE SUPERIOR OFFICERS FEDERATION THAT WILL IMPINGE ON WHEN WE
START AGAIN AND THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST IN FAIRNESS A LOT OF THE POLICE UNIONS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS WITH LOCAL 718. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT TO START OR THEY MAY WANT TO SORT
OF FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IF WE GO TO ARBITRATION THIS IS A LONG WAY OF SAYING THERE ARE A LOT OF IN THE AIR TO KNOW WHEN WE WOULD COMPLETE THE NEXT SET OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE BPP.
I WOULD SAY THAT OUR GOAL I THINK IS TO TAKE THE HOLIDAYS OFF AND START AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE NEW YEAR IF WE CAN SO THAT WE HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE OF GETTING MOST OF THIS DONE BY JUNE 30TH
OF 2026 WHEN THIS CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE AND ALSO EVEN IF WE DON'T AT LEAST WILL HAVE A LOT DONE TOWARD ANOTHER CONTRACT. SO AGAIN THE OTHER THREE CONTRACTS ARE THE OTHER THREE
CONTRACTS FOR THIS ONE YEAR DEAL. WHAT IS THE FATE OF LOCAL 718 AN ARBITRATION AND ALL THAT? THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SORT OF FIGURE OUT BEFORE WE GO BUT IT IS OUR INTENTION ESSENTIALLY TO STAY AT THE TABLE AFTER TAKING A BREAK FOR
THE HOLIDAYS. THAT SOUNDS GREAT AND I WOULD HOPE SO BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PIECES OF NEGOTIATIONS LIKE EDUCATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
SORT OF IN THIS NEXT ONE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT BE AFFECTED GIVEN IF YOU IF YOU EVEN WERE TO NEGOTIATE BY A CERTAIN TIME HAVING IT GO INTO EFFECT FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE
THE EDUCATION PIECE TO ALLOW THEM TO ACTUALLY NOT A WHOLE NOTHER YEAR BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, USE IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE, THEY'RE GOING TO YEAH, I'M AWARE OF THE
PROBLEM YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTING AND IT IS UPPERMOST IN MY MIND AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD AN EXCHANGE ON THAT AND I FULLY INTEND TO HONOR WHAT I PROMISED. I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT WAS A GOOD JOB AND AGAIN APPROPRIATE REFERENCES ON BOTH SIDES WERE MADE AND YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS GOING FORWARD. IT'S NICE TO SEE IT COME
TOGETHER QUICKLY WHICH ALL CONTRACTS COULD SORT OF FOLLOW THE SAME TIMELINE BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MULTI-YEAR ONE AND APPRECIATE THIS GAP, THIS BRIDGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNSELOR WEBER. COUNSELOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE PANELISTS FOR BEING
HERE AND 4000 CITY WORKERS REPRESENTATIVES FOR GETTING THESE NEGOTIATED AND AND DONE. I GUESS JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT LAST POINT FOR LOU, YOU
KNOW, IN TERMS OF LIKE WANT THE ONE YEAR YOU KNOW, THIS BEING OUT OF THE NORM HERE, I MEAN IT'S I GUESS IN GENERAL LIKE IS
THAT ARE WE OR DOES THAT GIVE LIKE YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER AN ADVANTAGE NEXT TIME ARE YOU YOU'RE GOING HEY IS GOING UP AND THEN YOU GET A
SHOT OF LIKE TWO QUICK BUMPS IN A SHORT SUCCESSION THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CONCERN WITH THE SHORT TERM CONTRACT BUT WELL I MEAN I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS I MEAN CERTAINLY THIS
IS APPROVED BY OUR FINANCE FOLKS SO JIM IS JIM IS REPRESENTING FROM THAT CABINET TODAY BUT I MEAN I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS A THIS IS A A MANAGEABLE CONTRACT AS AGAINST
ALL THE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE SETTLED. I MEAN I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE ONE. I YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SORT OF OVERDO IT WHETHER WHETHER
THE DURATION OF THE CONTRACT IS FOUR YEARS OR THREE YEARS OR ONE YEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO BANKRUPT THE CITY AND DO THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE. THAT'S JUST NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. SO YOU KNOW, OUR FINANCE FOLKS
CLOSELY LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROPOSALS, SLIDES BACK EVERYTHING AND DO A NO GOOD CLOSE THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS. SO I DON'T THINK THE DURATION AFFECTS THE PROBLEM YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. AND THEN JUST AND I APOLOGIZE IF THIS IS JUST WE'VE RESERVED A COUPLE DUMB QUESTION THREE
FOR YOU AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS CONTRACT AND THE PRIOR ONE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POINTS. ONE IS SO FOR DETAILS IT SAYS THE DETAIL PAY MAY OVERLAP WITH
REGULAR SHIFT PAY BY A MAXIMUM OF 2 HOURS. IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT CONTRACT? AND THEN CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? WILL YOU BE ESSENTIALLY IF YOU
SIGN UP FOR A DETAIL 2 HOURS BEFORE YOUR SHIFT ENDS IS THAT THAT'S HOW I READ THAT. NOW I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO DATE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS REFERENCE BUT CAN I PHONE A FRIEND? I'D LIKE JOHN WILTON TO UH,
TAKE THIS WHO WAS VERY HELPFUL IN NEGOTIATING THIS CONTRACT AND HAS THE ESSENTIAL DETAILS OF HOW THE DETAIL SYSTEM WORKS MUCH BETTER THAN I MEAN YOU JUST GET ONE OF THOSE EACH HEARING SO THIS.
OKAY SO IN A FRIEND COUNSELOR IT IT IT IS A CHANGE FROM THE LAST CONTRACT WE EXPECTED TO HAVE A VERY MINOR EFFECT JUST ON PEOPLE WHO WORK OFFICE SHIFT BECAUSE NOW ALL DETAILS WILL BE
SCHEDULED TO CONFORM TO THE REGULAR CONTRACTUAL SHIFTS MOST OFFICERS WORK. 732 FOR A 4 TO 1145 AND 1145 TO
730 SO THAT IS A IS A CHANGE BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL EFFECT. OKAY. JUST A DEFAULT. DOES THAT MEAN IF I WORK THE
SHIFT FROM YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS LIKE NOON TO 2 TO 7 THAT I CAN SIGN UP FOR A DETAIL THAT STARTS AT FIVE BEFORE THE END OF MY SHIFT WHEN I'M WORKING IF
AS LONG AS THE DETAIL IS STILL AVAILABLE BUT IT IS UNLIKELY TO BE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER ONE WAS JUST TO
COMPARE THIS TO ON THE SICK TIME REDEMPTION AND RETIREMENT IT JUST SAYS YOU KNOW NOW IT CAN BE 40% OF UNUSED SICK DAYS. I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
CURRENT CONTRACT SAYS TO YOU. YOU KNOW, I CAN I CAN TELL YOU THAT. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP HERE THAT DEVELOPED BETWEEN THE VARIOUS FOR BARGAINING UNITS IN THE POLICE.
SO WE HAVE THE BPA AND THEN THE DETECTIVE UNIONS I THINK A CORRECT ABOUT THIS BUT SOMEBODY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO SELL BACK 200 DAYS AT 40% AND THEN
THE FEDERATION WHICH IS SERGEANTS CAPTAINS AND LIEUTENANTS HAD THE ABILITY TO SELL THAT 260 DAYS AT 40%. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY ABOUT BETTER EQUALIZING WHAT HAPPENS
BETWEEN OUR LARGEST POLICE UNION WITH RESPECT TO THIS AND THE OTHER UNIONS THAT YOU KNOW, THE UNION WITH 600 MEMBERS, THE UNION THAT MOST PEOPLE INTERACT WITH WHEN THEY DEAL WITH THE
POLICE IN THE CITY OVERWHELMINGLY BY A FACTOR OF FOUR OR FIVE, SIX, 7 TO 1 IT WAS JUST CLOSING THE GAP ON WHAT THE RANK AND FILE PATROLMAN COULD SELL BACK VERSUS THE OTHER UNITS.
THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. SO IT'S MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE EQUITABLE BETWEEN THE FOUR UNIONS. OKAY. THANKS A LOT.
I GUESS GOING INTO WELL, I MEAN HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS FOR OVERTIME SPENDING FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR AND YOU KNOW, GOING INTO NEXT CONTRACT, IS IT
CORRECT TO SAY THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS CONTRACT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD LOWER OVERTIME SPENDING? JUST LOOKING AT I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT. NO, ACTUALLY COUNSELOR YEAH.
THAT THE EXPANSION OF THE SUMMER VACATION PERIOD OKAY IT SPREADS OUT THE NUMBER OF SUMMER VACATION PERIODS ACROSS MORE DATES AND SO YOU
HAVE LESS PEOPLE OFF AT ANY ONE TIME. SO IN THE CASE OF A DISTRICT OF 112 PATROL OFFICERS, YOU
WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE 14 YOU WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE 14. NOW IT'S 14 OFF AT ANY ONE TIME BUT PRIOR TO THIS IT WOULD BE 16 OFF AT ANY ONE TIME.
SO IT REDUCES THE REPLACEMENT HOURS REPLACEMENT OVERTIME DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD I WOULD ADD TOO OF A SICK TIME BUYBACK SO A PHENOMENON YOU SEE
AT THE END OF YOU KNOW OFFICERS CAREERS IS THAT THEY'LL SELL BACK WHAT THEY CAN SELL BACK BUT THEN USE A LOT OF ACCRUED UNUSED SICK TIME WHICH HAS A CASCADING EFFECT OF PEOPLE
BEING BROUGHT IN TO COVER ON OVERTIME AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF A SITUATION. SO THE ABILITY TO SELL BACK THIS TIME MEANS LESS TIME GETS USED AT THE END OF AN OFFICER'S CAREER. WE'RE HAVING LESS REQUIREMENT
OF BRINGING PEOPLE BACK ON MANDATORY OVERTIME TO COVER THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT POTENTIALLY GET THAT OVERTIME TO. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. I GUESS JUST MY LAST QUICK
QUESTION HERE ON THE ADT CONTRACT JUST IN TERMS OF OTHER THAN THAT, ARE THE PAY BUMPS
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT ELSE CAN YOU KNOW OFFSETTING WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR ON VERSION WITH SORRY AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND THAT
CONTRACT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY OUR DAVE DAVE SOUTHWICK THAT'S FOR YOU IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE HAVING WE'RE CROSSING OVER HERE BUT YOU'VE YOU'VE YOU'VE ALREADY
OVEREXTENDED HERE WHEN OF COURSE DAVID ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR WHAT WHAT WHAT THIS PROVIDES FOR IN OUR
MEETING WORKERS YES. THANK YOU SO IN ADDITION TO THE THE GENERAL WAGE INCREASES WITH WHICH CHAIRMAN WERE I WENT OVER AT THE AT THE BEGINNING WE'VE
ALSO FOCUSED ON RECLASSIFYING SOME OF THE POSITIONS PARTICULARLY FOCUSED ON THE LOWEST PAID POSITIONS SO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES IN THE LOWEST TWO GRADES ARE BEING
RECLASSIFIED AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT. WE ALSO AGREED TO A AN EMPLOYER FUNDED LEGAL SERVICES PLAN WHICH ONE OF OUR OTHER UNITS
HAS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CITY UNITS HAS AND WE ALSO MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE LONGEVITY AWARD PROGRAM TO BRING IT IN LINE WITH ONE OF OUR OTHER
CONTRACTS. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNSELOR PIPPIN.
COUNSELOR, YOU'RE THE FLOOR EVERYONE THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. WE'RE HOLDING IN SPACE AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR BEING PART OF THIS ONE. I'M JUST VERY GLAD THAT WE ARE CLOSE TO JUST REACHING
AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR OUR HARD WORKING CITY BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT SOMEBODY THAT I PRIORITIZE A LOT AND I WANT TO ASK ABOUT IS ARE THERE ANY PROTECTIONS FOR
THE POLICE OFFICERS MENTAL HEALTH AND ANY TIME REGARDING TAKING TIME OFF IF THEY NEED IT BECAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS
INCLUDED IN THIS IN THIS CONTRACT IS 30 MINUTES OF WORKOUT AND MEDITATION TIME ON A REGULAR SHIFT BASED ON
OPERATIONAL NEED. SO WE'RE HOPING OFFICERS WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT IF THEY NEED TO DECOMPRESS A LITTLE BIT DURING A SHIFT AND THAT PER
SHIFT OR OR CAN THEY ALSO TAKE LIKE IN LIKE A DAY OR CERTAIN TIMEFRAMES OR ETC. THE THE 30
MINUTES IS IS FOUR TIMES A WEEK ON THEIR REGULAR SHIFT BUT IF THEY NEED TIME OFF YOU KNOW WE CERTAINLY THEY DO HAVE CERTAIN
DIFFERENT TIMES OR TIME TO USE AND WE HAVE A VERY VERY GOOD PEER SUPPORT UNIT AS WELL. OKAY NOW I APPRECIATE THAT WE WE WE JUST HAD A HEARING THE
OTHER DAY OF THE WORK THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS DO WITH RESPONDING TO CALLS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO WITH THE BEST TEAM, THE PTSD TEAM AND TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS PART OF IT BUT ALSO WANTED TO KNOW THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS WERE WE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY SAVINGS OR EFFICIENCIES AS A RESULT OF A
NEW CONTRACT OR THE CITY OF BOSTON? I WOULD SAY THAT THE ONE THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MOST
IS THE SUMMER VACATION EXPANSION REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OFF ON SUMMER VACATION DURING THE SUMMER WHEN WE HAVE THE MOST AMOUNT
OF REPLACEMENT OVERTIME COSTS WILL HOPEFULLY IT'S DESIGNED TO REDUCE OVERTIME REDUCE OVERTIME. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S GOOD THAT'S
THAT'S I THINK WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THERE. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT JOB. MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LOU OR MAYBE EVEN THE CHAIR IN
REGARDS TO TIMING, ARE WE THE COUNCIL RESTRICTED ON TIMING ON WHEN WE NEED TO PASS THIS LIKE DO WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS IN THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING? CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT YEAR OR LIKE ARE WE LOOKING FOR A QUICK
TURNAROUND HERE? I'M LOOKING AT BRING THIS UP FOR A VOTE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. PERFECT. OH THAT SOUNDS GOOD THEN I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS HEARING HERE BUT YOU GUYS ANSWER A LOT
OF THE QUESTIONS. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ALREADY ASKED THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. SO MR CHAIR, THAT'S IT FOR ME TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME . THANK YOU. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES COUNCILOR FLYNN. COUNCILOR, YOU GET THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU TO THE POLICE INVESTIGATION TEAM THAT'S HERE . WAS THERE ANY THING IN THE CONTRACT RELATING TO ANY
LANGUAGE RELATING TO MILITARY OR VETERANS? THAT'S AN ISSUE OF WORKED ON FOR EIGHT YEARS AND WANT TO SEE HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING VETERANS
OR RETIRED RETIRED MILITARY THAT ARE ON THE POLICE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT IS SUPPORTING THEM IN THEIR UNIQUE SITUATION? COUNCILOR IF I MAY, THERE IS NOTHING IN THE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING MLA SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH THAT. HOWEVER WE DID AS AN ADMINISTRATION ROLL OUT A CHANGE TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME
THAT VETERANS CAN HAVE ON VETERANS DAY. GLAD TO BRIEF YOU SUBS SEPARATELY ABOUT THAT THAT ACTUALLY RELATES TO ALL CITY WORKERS, ALL VETERANS AND ALL OF OUR UNION.
SO IF WE COULD SEASONABLY UPDATE THE RECORD TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE ROLLED OUT ON VETERANS DAY THAT WAS VERY MUCH TARGETED TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT. THANK YOU.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE THE INCREASES BASICALLY 2% IS THAT ACCURATE? IT IS NOT 2% IS THE THE WAGE OR
THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT AND THEN THERE IS A 1% THAT IS GOING INTO HAZARDOUS DUTY SO THAT'S A DIFFERENTIAL THAT EVERYBODY IN THE BARGAINING UNIT GETS.
SO IT'S A 2% PLUS THAT 1%. OKAY, 3%. OKAY. ONE OF THE ISSUES ARE FOCUSED ON IS SUPPORTING POLICE
OFFICERS AND GIVING THEM TIME OFF WITH THEIR FAMILIES. IN MY OPINION WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CITY. POLICE OFFICERS ARE
CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY. BUT WHAT HOW DOES THIS CONTRACT SUPPORT POLICE OFFICERS IN
THEIR FAMILIES IN ENSURING POLICE OFFICERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK THEIR SHIFT AND THEN GO AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES WHETHER IT'S TAKING THEIR KIDS TO AFTERSCHOOL
PROGRAMS, SPORTS PROGRAMS. BUT THE FORCED OVERTIME IS STILL A CONCERN FOR ME AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ADVOCATING FOR MORE FOR HIRING MORE POLICE
OFFICERS IN THE CITY. SO JOHN SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, COUNSELOR, IF THERE'S THE
30 MINUTE WORKOUT TIME WE WOULD HOPE WOULD ALLOW OFFICERS TO DE-STRESS WORK OUT IN MENTAL HEALTH AND MEDITATION PER SHIFT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONTRACT
THAT WOULD PROHIBIT IT REQUIRED OVERTIME BUT WE ARE. YEAH, BUT JOHN MIKE, MY CONCERN IS WHEN A POLICE OFFICER IS WORKING THEIR SHIFT THEIR EIGHT
HOUR SHIFT AT THE SIX HOUR THEY HAVE ANOTHER 2 HOURS LEFT ON THEIR SHIFT. THEN THEY'RE CALLED IN BY THEIR SUPERVISOR INS AND THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK AN EXTRA 8 HOURS
EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR KID TO A AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR KID TO A TUTORING PROGRAM. THAT'S UNFAIR TO ME. THAT HURTS MORALE.
THAT HURTS I BELIEVE IT IMPACTS PHYSICAL HEALTH. I BELIEVE IT IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY EITHER AS IT MAY BE IN MY
DESCRIBING THAT ACCURATELY. JOHN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE A COUNSELOR AND YOU KNOW WE DO WE DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WE DON'T LIKE SEEING WE DON'T LIKE REQUIRING OVERTIME.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT MIGHT BE NECESSARY BASED ON THE STAFFING LEVELS. I DON'T KNOW IF IF DEPUTY BROWN YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY INPUT ON
ANYTHING HERE ON THE STAFFING. WELL JUST RELATIVE TO THE THE OVERTIME YEAH I MEAN I THINK THAT THE VACATION THE NEW VACATION WILL DEFINITELY HELP
ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE THAT THOSE ARE THE TIMES WE HAVE THE MOST REQUIREMENT WHEN WE NEED OFFICERS AROUND AND RELATIVE TO THE 16 HOURS I MEAN A LOT OF THE OVERTIME THAT HAS DONE
IS IS DEFINITELY VOLUNTEERED WHILE WE DO HAVE THE DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE TO COVER AND DO WE DO HAVE TO ORDER JUST GOING BACK TO THIS VACATION TIME AND KIND OF SPREADING OUT THIS TIME LIKE
THIS I THINK IS DEFINITELY VERY GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL MOVING FORWARD WITH THE VACATION PERIOD NUMBERS. THE WAY THEY WORKED OUT I THINK WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ANYWAY.
WELL, THAT'S A THAT'S A TOP PRIORITY FOR ME IS HIRING MORE POLICE OFFICERS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND I JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE
WORKING 15, 16 HOURS A DAY AND IT'S IMPACTING THEIR FAMILIES AS CITY COUNCILORS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE TIME OFF TO BE WITH OUR FAMILIES. SHOULD WE SHOULD OTHER CITY
EMPLOYEES ENJOY THAT SAME OPTION THAT WE ENJOY? I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES. I CAN'T I CAN'T JUSTIFY THAT WHEN I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN THEN A
FELLOW CITY WORKER DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S UNFAIR TO ME AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE FIGHTING FOR MORE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE
BUDGET EVEN THOUGH MY COLLEAGUES ON THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT SUPPORT THAT. I THINK WE DESPERATELY NEED TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS. 200 300 POLICE OFFICERS EVERY
YEAR CONSISTENTLY FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE AND I WORK FOR. YEAH, I THINK IS IT AS A TECHNICAL MATTER THERE IS WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO IN A
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT . SO I THINK IT'S JUST WORTH SAYING THAT THINGS LIKE STAFFING MINIMUM STAFFING ARE NOT SUBJECTS OF BARGAIN. THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SOLVE IN A
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT . I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM THAT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY DETRACT FROM THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST AS A TECHNICAL MATTER I
THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SAID I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND REPRESENT A DISTRICT THAT HAS A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS AND THEY THEY TALK TO ME ALL THE TIME ABOUT THESE CHALLENGES THAT
THEIR FAMILY EXPERIENCES AND I CAN'T SIT HERE AS A CITY COUNCIL AND REMAIN QUIET THAT'S NOT MY JOB. MY JOB IS TO FIGHT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. I THINK IT'S UNFAIR THAT POLICE
OFFICERS ARE WORKING CONSISTENTLY 16 HOURS A DAY AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO AN EVENT. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR SPOUSE BECAUSE AT
THE LAST MINUTE IT WOULD CALL TO TO WORK ON AN ON ANOTHER SHIFT. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT, BE FAIR, BE
RESPECTFUL TO THESE FELLOW CITY CITY WORKERS AND THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS. THEY'RE OUR YOUTHS, SPORTS COACHES. THEY'RE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THEY'RE OUT THERE
ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT FROM US. LET ME ASK ONE MORE ONE MORE
QUESTION WHAT IS THE WHAT WILL THE IMPACT OF THIS CONTRACT AND I THINK ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED IMAGINE IT WHAT WILL THE IMPACT OF THIS CONTRACT
HAVE ON SERVICES AND SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND SUPPORT FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES? WHAT'S IN THEIR THE 30 MINUTES
OF WORKOUT AND MENTAL HEALTH TIME PER REGULAR SHIFT WE BELIEVE WILL HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND DE-STRESSING. WE ALSO HAVE A AS I MENTIONED A
VERY, VERY GOOD AND DEDICATED SUPPORT PEER SUPPORT UNIT UP IN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE THAT IS THERE TO HELP AND ASSIST WITH
ANYTHING THAT ANY OFFICER MIGHT BE GOING THROUGH. THANK YOU, JOHN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU GUYS OFFLINE AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL HAS FUNDED FOR 200 OR I'D LIKE TO SAY SUPER SUPER CLASSES AND
WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST IS THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET THE 200 RECRUIT BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY FUNDING FOR THE SUPER
CLASSES AND IT'S ALL ABOUT RECRUITING. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES CASSIE MURPHY CASSIE YOU GOT THE FLOOR .
THANK YOU. CHAIR WANT TO TURN MY CAMERA OFF A FEW THINGS? YES. WE HAVE SUPPORTED THE FUNDING FOR UP TO 200 BUT I DO BELIEVE
THAT AS THESE CONTRACTS GET STRONGER AND ARE MORE FAVORABLE MORE MORE PEOPLE WILL APPLY AND WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS
APPLYING TO THEN WANT TO FILL THESE CLASSES SO IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE LANGUAGE OR WHAT'S PART OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BUT STAFFING LEVELS WILL DEFINITELY
BE IMPROVED IF MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SEE THAT YOU KNOW THE UNION LEADERS ARE FIGHTING HARD TO GET BETTER CONTRACTS FOR THEIR WORKERS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT
EVERYTHING IS KIND OF CONNECTED THERE. JOHN, CAN I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT VACATION TIME?
OF COURSE, COUNSELOR. YES. SO THERE ARE HOW MANY VACATION DAYS DOES A PATROL OFFICER GET?
IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY HAVE SENIORITY AND YOU ALREADY YES, I BELIEVE THEY START WITH 15 AND IT GOES UP TO 25. OKAY.
AND SO IF YOU'RE STARTING OUT AND YOU HAVE 15 VACATION DAYS, DO YOU HAVE ANY CITIES OR IS IT ALL CONSIDERED YET AS YOU DO
HAVE SICK DAYS AS WELL? IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING FROM A LABOR PERSPECTIVE THE BASE IS THE BASIC TIME IN VACATION TIME IS ACTUALLY DERIVED FROM
STATUTE FOR POLICE OFFICERS, NOT THE CONTRACT AND THEN THE CONTRACT AUGMENTS THE VACATION TIME SLIGHTLY AS A WEEK HERE AND THERE FOR BASED ON
SENIORITY BUT SICK TIME IS DERIVED SOLELY FROM STATUTE AND IT'S IN AND HOW MANY SICK DAYS A YEAR DO YOU GET WHEN YOU
START OUT? I BELIEVE IT'S 15 COUNSELOR SO 15 VACATION PLUS 15 SICK DAYS PER YEAR. IT'S 15 SICK DAYS PER YEAR I BELIEVE IT'S 15 VACATION BUT IT
DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU WHEN THE OFFICER IS IS ON YEAH OKAY BUT IT'S CLOSE LIKE YEAH YEAH I
DON'T NEED EXACT NUMBERS AND HOW MANY OF IF ANY OF THE SICK DAYS CARRYOVER AND HOW MANY OF ANY VACATION DAYS CARRYOVER EACH YEAR.
SICK DAYS ALWAYS CARRY OVER BUT VACATION DAYS EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CARRY OVER UP TO TWO WEEKS UNTIL JANUARY 31ST AND THEN
THEY EXPIRE FOR POLICE OFFICERS . OKAY SO HAVE WE I MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER BUT I WANT TO ASK HAVE WE EVER BECAUSE
OF STAFFING SHORTAGES HAVE TO DENY OFFICES VACATION TIME AND THEN NOT GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE DAYS THAT THEN EXPIRE ON THEM THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CARRY OVER
? WELL, COUNSELOR, I WILL SAY THAT WE DO DENY A VACATION ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW, SINGLE VACATION DAYS NEAR NEAR TO THE
END OF THE YEAR OR AT TIMES WHEN WHEN THE STAFFING NEED IS THERE AND IN THE SUMMER MONTHS. BUT WE TRY VERY, VERY HARD NOT TO ALLOW ANY VACATION TIME TO
EXPIRE FOR OFFICERS. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY INSTANCE WHERE IT HAS HAPPENED BUT I KNOW I KNOW WE DO DENY VACATION
IN SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES. OKAY. AND ARE YOU EVER ALLOWED TO DENY SICK TIME? I SUPPOSE IF THERE'S A QUESTION
ON WHERE THE SICK TIME IS BEING ABUSED PERHAPS BUT IN GENERAL WE NO ONE DENIES SICK TIME. OKAY.
AND WHAT ARE THE STATS OF A OFFICERS CUMULATIVE VACATION DAYS THAT DO CARRY OVER CITIES
AT THE END? HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE MORE THAN YOU SAID YOU INCREASED YOUR BET IT WAS 200. HOW MANY HOURS CAN THEY NOW CASH OUT IN 40% AT RETIREMENT
THEY CAN NOW CASH OUT 250 DAYS, COUNSELOR AND IT HAD BEEN 200. YES. AND THE REASON I'M ASSUMING YOU INCREASED IT IS BECAUSE THERE WERE MANY OFFICERS WHO WERE
LEAVING DAYS ON THE TABLE. TRUE. NOT TRUE. I I THINK IT WAS A PROPOSAL THAT WE AGREED TO IT IT WAS A PROPOSAL PUT FORTH FROM THE
UNION. I'M NOT REALLY I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM AS TO WHY THEY PUT IT PUT IT FORWARD AND IS THERE A REASON DO YOU KNOW AND MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE AND I KNOW I ASKED
YOU BUT IF ANYONE ELSE ON THE CALL HAS ANSWERED TO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE BUT I KNOW YOU PAY ALL THESE ANSWERS. I MEAN I WAS JUST SCHOOLTEACHER THOSE YEARS AND OUR DAYS COULD
ACCUMULATE AS MANY AS YOU WANTED AND MANY TEACHERS OFFICERS WORK, YOU KNOW, DECADES OF SERVICE AND THERE WAS NEVER A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD DO. YOU COULD CASH OUT.
SO IT JUST SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT WE OFFERED THESE DAYS AND THEN AT THE END WE TAKE THEM BACK AND NOT PAY THEM ALL FOR IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ARGUE THAT TAKING THE DAY IS 100% AND
CASHING IT OUT LIKE THE CITY DOES SAVE 60% WHEN THEY ARE CASHING OUT AT THE END. SO IF MAYBE FOR THE RECORD IF WE COULD FIND OUT IF THERE HAVE IN THE PAST BEEN OR IF ANYONE
FROM THE PATROLMEN UNION KNOWS THAT ANSWER WE'VE EVER HAD OFFICERS RETIRE IN FORCE TO NOT BE ABLE TO CASH OUT ALL OF THEIR DAYS THAT THEY BURNED.
WE'LL BE GLAD TO SUPPLEMENT THE RECORD KIND OF LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SICK TIME AND VACATION TIME. VACATION TIME IS SOMETHING YOU'RE GIVEN AND WE NEVER TAKE AWAY SICK TIME IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE NOBODY'S EVER SICK
AND THEY NEVER HAVE TO USE IT. SO NO, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN THOSE TWO TYPES OF DAYS NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BUT I AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHICH ONES CARRYOVER
AND WHICH ONES THEY CAN LIKE. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S PROBABLY CHANGED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS BUT YOU KNOW WE WOULD GET 15 SICK DAYS THREE PERSONNEL OR FOUR PERSONNEL AND THREE WOULD CARRY OVER.
I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS CERTAIN ONES THAT YOU'LL LOSE BUT YOU YEAH, IF WE COULD FIND THAT OUT JUST IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND
JOHN, YOU MENTIONED AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE IS 30 MINUTES PER DAY FOR EITHER PHYSICAL MENTAL SUPPORT HELP PHYSICAL I'M ASSUMING IS AT A
GYM OR WORKING OUT DOES EVERY STATION HAVE A GYM FOR THE OFFICERS TO ACCESS? YES. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY DISTRICT STATION HAS A
GYM HEADQUARTERS AS A GYM, THE ACADEMY AS A GYM AND I DON'T KNOW DEPUTY MISSING ANY NOT BEING TO THEM IN THE GYM RIGHT NOW AS A MATTER OF FACT OF YEAH
YEAH EVERY EVERYONE HAS A GYM I KNOW SOME OF THE SOME OF THE GYMS AND AROUND THE CITY HAVE ALSO BEEN UPGRADED SO YEAH THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THERE IS A LOCATION AT EVERY STATION INCLUDING HEADQUARTERS AND I
KNOW A LOT OF GUYS GO OVER TO THE ACADEMY AS WELL TO USE THE GYM NOW SO YEAH THERE'S PLENTY OF GYM FACILITIES AVAILABLE AND IT'S CLEAR IF I CAN ADD ONE MORE THING THERE IS CURRENTLY
PRIOR TO THIS MY WAY PATROL OFFICERS HAD A PAY A FEE TO USE THESE GYMS. WE'RE ACTUALLY WAIVING THAT NOW. SO THE USE OF THE GYMS IS GOING TO BECOME FREE. THAT FEE IS GOING AWAY AND THE CITY WILL DO THE OUTFITTING AND
THE MAINTENANCE OF OF THOSE GYMS DIRECTLY INTO OUR SEIU. I HOPE EMT ALSO BILL CALL TAKERS HAVE FREE ACCESS TO
THOSE GYMS ALSO THEY DO NOT THAT'S THAT'S NOT IN THEIR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT . MAYBE WE CAN FIGHT FOR IT KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE HIGH
STRESS LEVEL ALSO. OKAY MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED A LOT OF I DON'T WANT TO ASK REDUNDANT QUESTIONS ON THE AIR. I THINK HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS
I WANT ON THE RECORD BUT THANK YOU CHAIR AND LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL HEARING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILOR. THANK YOU. YES, ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
ASKED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE HERE BUT THERE WAS A CHANGE AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE OF THEM. OKAY UM AROUND THAT THE DETAIL
SYSTEM AS I THINK THEY DESCRIBES THAT OUR DETAILS WOULD NOW BE TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CIVIL UNION FLAG A DETAILS AND I WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO GET AN
UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE SYSTEM BEING STEPPED UP BUT I BELIEVE THE CIVILIAN FLAG DETAIL WAS ONLY PREVIOUSLY ONLY FOR TYPE THREE DETAILS. NO.
OKAY. BUT THEY TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE AND THEN HOW THAT AFFECTS THE CIVILIAN FLAG ASSIST SYSTEM. YES. SO TYPE AND TYPE TWO DETAILS WERE ENSHRINED IN THE LAST
CONTRACT THAT WE REACHED IN DECEMBER OF 2023. SO SETTING UP THE IDEA OF PRIORITIZATION ON THE DETAILS WE NEED COVERED THE CHANGE HERE IS THAT IT ADDS A
FEW MORE THINGS TO TYPE ONE SO SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE SOME GARAGES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO LARGE SPORTING FACILITIES. THIS HAS BEEN AN IMMENSE PROBLEM AROUND THE TD BANK
NORTH GARDEN OF PEOPLE SORT OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF THESE GARAGES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO LARGE SPORTING EVENTS. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY PROVIDING THAT THOSE ARE A TYPE ONE AND THAT THE GARAGE CAN GET A DETAIL TO HELP GET PEOPLE IN
AND OUT. I THINK ONE OF THOSE IS ON THE ROSE KENNEDY AS A GREEN GREENWAY TO UM SO THAT'S A CHANGE THAT PROVIDES MORE OPPORTUNITY BUT THE THING THAT I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT
COUNCILOR THE ROLE FOR CIVILIAN FLAGGERS IS LIMITED TO TRAFFIC CONTROL BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO. SO WHEN WE GET THAT SYSTEM
STOOD UP THEY CAN DO TRAFFIC CONTROL UNDER EITHER TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO. WE HAVE BEEN DOING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES STANDING UP THIS PROJECT
. IT'S BEEN SLOW GOING BUT THERE ARE TWO DISTINCT CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE BUILT OUT THAT ARE RELATIVE TO GETTING THE PROJECT STOOD UP. THERE IS THE TECHNOLOGICAL ASPECT IT WE'VE HIRED A COMPANY
FROM NORTH CAROLINA THAT WON THE RFP CALLED EXTRA DUTY SOLUTIONS GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM FOR THE BETTER OF THE YEAR DEVELOPING THE APP THAT WILL SORT OF SHOW HOW THE DETAILS CASCADE THROUGH THE
POLICE. EVERYBODY ELSE AS THEY SIGN FOR THEM. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE ACTUAL HIRING OF THE PERSONNEL . THAT'S AN RFP WE PUT OUT. THE SPRING WAS WON BY THE ED DAVIS COMPANY AND WE'VE BEEN
GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM ABOUT HOW TO ENSURE THAT AS EMPLOYEES AS THEY'RE GETTING VARIOUS EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING ALL OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE MADE WE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED THAT IN THAT POLICE CONTRACT IN DECEMBER OF 2023 THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD HIRE EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS THAT COME AND ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT
COME WITH BEING AN EMPLOYEE AS OPPOSED TO A AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. SO WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT WITH THE ED DAVIS COMPANY TO SET IT UP. WE ANTICIPATE PROGRESS SHORTLY
BUT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY RESHAPING A DETAIL SYSTEM THAT'S EXISTED AS IT HAS FOR 50 YEARS. SO SPEED IS SPEED IS THE ENEMY OF OF PRECISION EFFECTIVENESS. SO I HOPE THAT IS ENOUGH OF AN
UPDATE AND ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS THOUGH. IT DOES. THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU TOUCH THIS IN PREVIOUS QUESTIONS I GUESS IT MIGHT BE FOR JIM TO TALK ABOUT
LIKE THE IMPACTS OR THE EFFECTS YOU KNOW CONTRACTS YOU KNOW THE BPP BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST UNIONS HAVE ON OUR CITY'S PENSIONS OBLIGATION AND THEN
WHEN YOU'RE YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS HOW DOES THE CITY ACCOUNT FOR PENSION AND PENSION AND OPB OBLIGATIONS ?
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO ANSWER. IT DOESN'T IMMEDIATELY DIRECTLY IMPACT THE VENDOR SCHEDULE BUT WHEN OUR REEVALUATION IS DONE
PERIODICALLY TO WAGE GROWTH NOT JUST YOU KNOW BPP BUT ALL ALL SEE WAGES ARE FACTORED INTO THE
LIABILITY CALCULATION SO IT DOES IT WILL INFLUENCE THE COST OF PENSIONS.
ALL RIGHT THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR ON THE LOCAL 88 CONTRACT. CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT AND I'M ASSUMING YOUR WAGES BUT ANY OTHER BENEFITS WITH THE
RECLASSIFICATION FROM PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATE TO COORDINATOR ONE. YES SO THE IN ADDITION TO THE GENERAL WAGE INCREASES WE'VE
DONE A SERIES RECLASSIFICATIONS AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE LOWEST PAID, LOWEST GRADED WORKERS SO
THERE'S MULTIPLE TITLES WHO ARE AFFECTED BY THAT AND THE LOWEST TWO GRADES THAT WE USE THOSE FOLKS ARE BEING UPGRADED THAN
AT THE THE IN ONE OF OUR PARTICULAR PROGRAMS ONE OF OUR BIGGER PROGRAMS THAT HEALTHY BABY HEALTHY CHILD WE'RE CHANGING THE STAFFING MIX THERE A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TITLES BOTH CLINICAL TITLES AND OUTREACH TITLES SO WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE MIX OF THAT A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH FROM NOT JUST USING
PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES BUT USING PROGRAM COORDINATORS WHICH WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM IN SCOPE OF WORK. AND SO SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATE WE CALL THEM PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATE TOOS THAT'S THE HIGHER OF THE SERIES
ARE GOING TO BE RECLASSIFIED AS AS COORDINATORS WITH A JOB DESCRIPTION CHANGE AND SOME SCOPE OF WORK CHANGES AS WELL. THANK YOU THOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK TO COME INTO THIS AGREEMENT WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY FOR THOSE TESTIFYING ON ZOOM. PLEASE ACCEPT THE MESSAGE ASKING YOU TO BE PROMOTED TO
PANELISTS WHEN IT APPEARS WE WILL GO TO JANEY OF UNION REP FOR THE BPP THE FLOOR NOW YOURS
MA'AM. WELL I DON'T SEE JANEY IN THE ROOM, MR CHAIR, I DON'T THINK THAT JANEY IS HERE OR ELSE AND
I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF I SEE YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, AS WE WAIT TO SEE OF JAMIE'S IN THE ROOM, DOES ANY OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES BUY THE SHOW A HAND VIRTUAL HAND
HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNSELOR? CAN I JUST KNOW ONE MORE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IN ALL OF THIS AND I GUESS IT JUST
OCCURRED TO ME ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE GOT OUT OF THIS AND WHY I WOULD CALL THIS THE SECOND REFORM CONTRACT IN A ROW WE DID DWELL FOR A MOMENT ON THE SUBJECT OF NAME TAGS.
THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN AFTER FOR A VERY LONG TIME IS TO GET PATROLMEN WEARING NAME TAGS SO THAT WHEN OUR RESIDENTS HAVE INTERACTIONS WITH THE POLICE YOU KNOW THAT
WHOLE THING IS IT'S MUCH EASIER TO SORT OF ENGAGE WITH A NAME THAN A YOU KNOW, A BADGE AND A NUMBER AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT PART OF THIS PACKAGE AND ONE ONE BIT OF UNFINISHED BUSINESS THAT
WE'RE PARTICULARLY GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IS YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, VERY IMPORTANT STEP IN THIS
CONTRACT JUST GOT AWARE THAT JANEY WILL NOT BE TESTIFYING. SO AGAIN THANK YOU TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AIG YELLOW ESSENTIAL STAFF THE ADMINISTRATION FOR YOUR HARD
WORK IN THE BPA TO GET INTO A CONTRACT. AND WITH THAT SAID THIS HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBERS 196731970 IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYONE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU