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GOOD MORNING.

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WHEN IT COMES TO. >> WELLNESS IS PREFERABLE TO WHAT I CAN. ONE MORE TIME TO.

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THANK YOU.

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AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AND ROTATION. THE EXACT TIME IS 10 A.M. IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO OF THE ACT OF 2025 MODIFIED CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF OPEN

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MEETING LAW AND RELIEVING PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES MUST CONDUCT MEETINGS AT A PUBLIC PLACE THAT IS OPEN AND PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE

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CONDUCTING THIS HEARING VIA ZOOM. THE HEARING IS BEING RECORDED. IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED ABOUT CITY OF BACKSLASH CITY COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST

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I'D CHANNEL EIGHT HOURS GENERALLY TWO AS CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL. UM UH THESE THESE D W L A TV

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ACROSS THE DARK UP AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON TO JUSTIFY THE WHICH THEY THUS

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MAY WHILE TWO MINUTES TO TESTIFY IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT DONE SO PLEASE. PLEASE ON THE COB AT CARON DOT

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COB SEND BACK UP FOR THERE'S A LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 0968, AN ORDER AUTHORIZING BOX

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AND OFFICE OF HOUSING TO ACCEPT AND EXTEND $30 MILLION FROM THE INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT POLICY FOR THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY MAYOR RACHELLE BLUE AND IS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON

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MAY 30TH 2026. UH, TODAY UM I DON'T HAVE ANY OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES JUST YET. UM AND I DON'T HAVE ANY LETTERS OF ABSENCE. IF THAT CHANGES I WILL LET

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EVERYONE KNOW. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS JOINED US TODAY. WE ARE HERE TO CONSIDER AN ORDER AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OFFICE. HOUSING TO ACCEPT AN EXPANDED 3

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MILLION INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT POLICY FOR INCLUSIONARY ZONING WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2000 TO SUPPORT THE PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH NEW MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT,

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AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING HAS OVERSEEN THE ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATION OF ITP SINCE 2013. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OFFICIALS JOINING US THIS MORNING FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

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OF HOUSING PROPOSALS AND CHRISTINE O'KEEFE AND ANDY FELDMAN AS WELL AS MANY STAFF MEMBERS FROM STEWARDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BOZEMAN THROUGH THE ITP FUND OVER THE YEARS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN

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BOSTON AND I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION IN CHIEF SHEILA THAT THERE'S BEEN A LEADER IN OUR UM IN OUR UM, CITY AND UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, CHATTING WITH HER ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

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EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS MONEY. UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS WORK AS WELL AS THE PROCESS FOR THESE INVESTMENTS BECAUSE THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES

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AUTHORIZATION PROVIDES AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR OVERSIGHT BUT ALSO EXCITEMENT ABOUT WHAT'S COMING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. RESIDENTS ACROSS POSSAM ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR RENT AND FIND HOUSING MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.

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WE ARE FACING A CHALLENGING MOMENT WITH ECONOMIC PRESSURES THAT EVERY CITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS ALSO FACING. THAT MEANS WE ALSO USED TO HAVE TO USE EVERY TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX JUST FOR HOUSING.

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OUR UM CITY URGENTLY NEEDS. WE MUST CONTINUE TO COMPARATIVELY AND PROPERLY. WE ARE HAPPY ABOUT HOW WE CAN SUPPORT RESIDENTS ABILITY TO LIVE AND UM, JUST BE A PART OF THAT.

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AND UM THERE ARE MANY POLICIES THAT CONTRIBUTION TO SCHOOL AND LOOK FORWARD TO UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE THAT INCLUSIONARY ZONING PLAYS IN OUR HOUSING STRATEGY THIS MORNING. SO UH, FIRST WORK UH, WE HAVE

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BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR I PLAN TO WELCOME COUNCIL BUT UM, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO UM THE PANEL UM, WHO IS BY TO PRESENT UH, SERIES OF SLIDES AND I WILL GET

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INTO QUESTION. AND OBVIOUSLY I SAID THIS BEFORE BUT I'M LOSING MY VOICE SO UM SO AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT OUR.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILOR. UM, I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

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HOPEFULLY THAT WORKED. YES, WE CAN SEE IT. ALL RIGHT. UM. GOOD MORNING. UH, COUNCILORS. AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RICK WILSON. UH, I'M THE DIRECTOR

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OF ADMINISTRATION AND FINANCE AT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING. UH, AND I'M JOINED BY CHRISTINE O'KEEFE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND AND DEVELOPMENT HOUSING POLICY

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MANAGER AT HOME, WHICH. UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TO ACCEPT AND EXPAND UP TO $30 MILLION IN INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT POLICY OR IDP FUND REVENUE.

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UM, IDP REVENUE IS A RESULT OF THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT POLICY, WHICH REQUIRES THAT DEVELOPERS OF PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITH TEN OR MORE UNITS, UH, CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ON SITE UH, OR

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OFF SITE OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE IDP FUND PURSUANT TO A FORMULA . UH IF THE PROJECT IS MEETING THE IDP REQUIREMENT BY PROVIDING UNITS ON SITE. IN OTHER WORDS, IN THE SAME BUILDING 30% OF THE UNITS MUST

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BE SET ASIDE AS I THINK I'M RESTRICTED IF THE PROJECT IS PROVIDING UNITS OFFSITE OR MAKING A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF UNITS. UM THE REQUIREMENT IS 15% OR 80% UM INCOME RESTRICTED

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DEPENDING ON THE ZONE UH AND THE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF UNIT FORMULA UH ALSO VARIES BY ZONE FROM 200,000 TO $380,000 PER UNIT. UH IDP AS YOU MENTIONED COUNCILOR ATTITUDES ARE

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SUPPLEMENTED IN 2000. IT HAS BEEN UPDATED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS. UM I'M ALWAYS TOOK OVER ADMINISTRATION OF THE IDP FUND FROM THE BPD IN 2014. UM I TOOK OVER IMPLEMENTATION

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ADMINISTRATION OF ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF THE IDP PROGRAM. UM IN 2024. UH, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UM IDP AND NOT UH, INCLUSIONARY ZONING OR

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IS UH IS BECAUSE THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY UH, IS BEING GENERATED BY PROJECT SUBJECT TO IDP NOT NOT AS. UM SO AS I MENTIONED, IDP FUND

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REVENUE COMES FROM UH PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF UNITS ON SITE OR OFFSITE UM WHICH ARE AND THOSE PAYMENTS ARE TYPICALLY MADE IN INSTALLMENTS. UM AND ALSO FROM SMALLER ONE TIME PARTIAL UNIT PAYMENTS THAT

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RESULT FROM THE FROM THE CALCULATION OF THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED UNITS. UM IDP FUND REVENUE CAN BE USED FOR THE CREATION AND PRESERVATION OF LONG TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. UH IDP FUND UNITS UM CAN BE

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HOMEOWNERSHIP RENTAL COOPERATIVES UH OR OTHER FORMS OF PERMANENT AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. UH AND ALL IDP FUND UNITS ARE SUBJECT TO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESTRICTION. UH AS FAR AS INCOME TARGETING GOES.

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UH RENTAL UNITS CREATED USING IDP FUNDS UH HAVE A MAXIMUM INCOME LIMIT OF 70% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. WHERE AM I? UH, ALTHOUGH MANY UNITS ARE RESTRICTED TO LOWER INCOMES.

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UM, HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS CAN BE CAN GO UP TO 100% OF AMI ALTHOUGH IF ANY WITHIN ANY GIVEN PROJECT AT LEAST 50% OF THE UNITS MUST BE RESTRICTED TO 80% AMI OR LESS UH FOR THE

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ADMINISTRATION OF THE FUND. UM MY WHICH TRACKS WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING AND INVOICING IDP FUND OBLIGATIONS. UM TREASURY DEPARTMENT OVERSEES AND DEPOSITS THOSE FUNDS UM AND

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IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AWARDING AND DISBURSING FUNDS COMPETITIVELY TO PROJECTS TO OUR ANNUAL FUNDING ROUND. UM DISPOSITION PROCESSES UH OR SPECIAL INITIATIVES LIKE THE ACQUISITION OPPORTUNITY

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PROGRAM. UM THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE IMPACT OF THE INCLUSIONARY INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT POLICY UH, SINCE ITS INCEPTION SINCE ITS INCEPTION. UH, THESE NUMBERS HERE ARE UM UNITS UH, PERMITTED OR

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COMPLETED. UM, OVER THE PAST 26 YEARS. IDP HAS RESULTED IN THE CREATION OF OVER 8800 AFFORDABLE UNITS. UM, INCLUDING 6800 RENTAL UNITS

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OR 2000 HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS. UM OVER 4400 OF THOSE UNITS HAVE BEEN ON SITE. UM THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED SECTION UH SHOWS THE UNITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE IDP FUND.

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SO NEARLY 3800 TOTAL NEW UNITS UH SUPPORTED INCLUDING 3000 NEW RENTAL UNITS. 800 NEW HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS UM AND 441 UM RENTAL UNITS PRESERVED.

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UH AND WE'VE INVESTED 100 OVER $188 MILLION IN THOSE IN THOSE UNITS. SO IDP HAS REALLY BEEN UH, AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TOOL FOR CREATING AND PRESERVING HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BOSTON.

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UM, AND PROMOTING MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS. SO LET'S TURN TO THE UM IDP FUND UH, ITSELF. UM, SINCE I TOOK OVER

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ADMINISTRATION OF THE FUND IN FY14, UH, WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER $217 MILLION. UM, BASED ON SIGNED IDP AGREEMENTS AND PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE, WE ARE PROJECTING TO COLLECT ANOTHER $26 MILLION

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OVER THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS. UM, AND THAT IS UH THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THE ACCEPTED EXPAND REQUEST. UM, AND THAT WILL RESULT IN REVENUE OF $243.5 MILLION. TOTAL REVENUE.

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UH, WE HAVE TO DATE WE HAVE COMMITTED FUNDING TO 189 UH, NINE ALMOST HUNDRED AND $90 MILLION THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR. UH, AND WE EXPECT TO COMMIT ANOTHER $36 MILLION TO PROJECTS

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OVER THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS. UM, WE ALSO ALLOCATE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF IDP FUND REVENUE TO FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT EXPENSES. UM, YOU ADD THOSE TWO UP AND YOU GET TOTAL UH, PROJECTED

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USES OF $237.8 MILLION. UM WHICH LEAVES THE BALANCE OF ABOUT 5.8 MILLION THAT WE WILL MAKE AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR UPCOMING UH, ANNUAL FUNDING ROUND.

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UH, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME RECENT IDP FUND PROJECTS. UM UH, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL TO SHOW SOME EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS UH WE USE THIS FUNDING FOR. UM, THE FIRST IS STONY BROOK,

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UH, AND JAMAICA PLAIN. THIS IS A 45 UNIT HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECT WITH FIVE ARTIST LIVE WORK STUDIOS. UH, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS JUST COMPLETED IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.

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UM, NEXT IS 775 HUNTINGTON AVENUE IN MISSION HILL. THIS IS A 12 STORY MIXED USE MIXED INCOME PROJECT WITH 112 UNITS AND GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE AND THIS IS IN

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CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. UM ALSO IN CONSTRUCTION IS 95 AVERAGE STREET AND ALLSTON BRIGHTON AN 88 UNIT MIXED INCOME UH RENTAL PROJECT AND THIS IS EXPECTED TO BE

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COMPLETED UH SUMMER OF 2027. THIS IS PLAN NUBIAN UH 75 TO 81 DUDLEY STREET AND ROXBURY WITH 15 AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP

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UNITS AND A COMMUNITY SPACE AND THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN SPRING OF NEXT YEAR. UH, NEXT 370 6384 BLUE HILL AVENUE OR MASTER PLAZA IN

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DORCHESTER. UM 18 UH 18 AFFORDABLE CONDOS, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, A COMMUNITY SPACE AND AN OUTDOOR GREEN SPACE. UH, AND THAT PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO START CONSTRUCTION

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,UM, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. UH, AND FINALLY, UM, PARCEL 12 THE 1492 MY STREET, UH, IN CHINATOWN. UH, MIXED INCOME PROJECT WITH 111 UM RESTRICTED RENTAL UNITS

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AND GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE. UH AND THAT PROJECT WAS JUST AWARDED FUNDING OUT LATE LAST YEAR. UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. UM, ONCE AGAIN, COUNCILORS, WE

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WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT POLICY AND THE IDP FUND. UM, AS FEDERAL FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS DECLINED OVER OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES.

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UM IDP ALONG WITH LINKAGE AND CPA HAVE BECOME EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TOOLS TO SUPPORT THE CREATION AND PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BOSTON . UH, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, I'M GOING TO GO FIRST TO MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILOR AND UM COUNCILOR. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SIX MINUTES BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK FOR STICK AROUND.

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THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY FOR YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. I WAS, UM, TWO MINUTES LATE FOR THE START OF THE HEARING.

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I HEARD YOUR ENTIRE, UM, PRESENTATION RUBRIC, BUT I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR EVERYONE. UM, FOR FOR ME BEING LATE. UM, I DON'T I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT BY BEING LATE. I'M SORRY.

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I'M SORRY. UM, BRETT. CAN YOU RE-EXPLAIN I GUESS THE THE IDP PERCENTAGES.

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JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR. CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT THOSE AGAIN AND AND TELL US, UM, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN WHY ONE IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN UM, THE OTHER PLEASE.

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UM, YEAH. COUNCILOR HAPPY TO UH, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE ANDY. DO YOU MIND TAKING THAT THAT QUESTION. UH, ANDY, I CAN HEAR YOU.

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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHERS. YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU, ANDY. IS IT A LITTLE MUTE BUTTON? THE MUTE BUTTON ON THE MICROPHONE. MAYBE ON THE HEADSET.

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NO. >> IT'S ANY BETTER? YES. >> OKAY. >> APOLOGIES, APOLOGIES. I ALSO. >> CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN, BY THE WAY. OKAY. >> I TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ME. I'M HAPPY TO STOP SHARING MY

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SCREEN. OKAY. >> UM. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FOR THE QUESTION. SO UNDER THE IDP POLICY, THE ON SITE PERCENTAGE UH, REQUIRED WAS THE 13% ACROSS THE BOARD.

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UH, BUT THEN IF A PROJECT WAS DOING EITHER THE OFFSITE UNIT SO SO DOING THEIR IDP UNITS AT A COMPLETELY SEPARATE BUILDING OR DOING THE PAYMENT DOING THE PAYMENT INSTEAD OF ANY UNITS, UH, DEPENDING ON WHETHER THEY

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WERE IN ZONE A OR B OR C UH SOMETIMES THE CALCULATION WOULD BE 15 OR 18%. UH JUST SPENDING DEPENDING ON WHICH ZONE UH GEOGRAPHIC ZONE THAT THEY'RE LOCATED. THANK YOU THANK YOU ANDY AND

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JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP I HAD A LOT. I HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT TWO. UM, OFTENTIMES OR IN SEVERAL CASES I SHOULD SAY. THE OFF SITE AND I SUPPORTED

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THIS ALONG WITH CONGRESSMAN LYNCH AND SENATOR COLLINS. REPRESENTATIVE BILL. UH, BUT OFTENTIMES WE SUPPORTED UM OFFSITE TO SUPPORT VHA UNITS

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UM, AND IN PUBLIC HOUSING. CAN YOU TELL ME, ANDY ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND UH, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE AND WHY?

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AND AGAIN I SUPPORT THAT BUT TELL ME WHY THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE POLICY. SURE. >> SURE. THANK YOU COUNCILOR. SO UM. AS I. >> MENTIONED THAT UH, THE IDP POLICY UH, OFFERS THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR

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DEVELOPERS TO MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS. SO AS RICK MENTIONED, ONE IS ON SITE. SO IN THE SAME BUILDING WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR MARKET RATE UNITS UH THE SECOND IS OFFSITE. SO IN A UM IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING SOMEWHERE LOCATED

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WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THE OF THE MAIN PROJECT. AND THE THIRD IS BY MAKING PAYMENTS UH, INTO THE IDP FUND AS RICK SHARED WHICH THEN UH, CHRIS CHRIS'S TEAM IS ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE AN AWARD TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

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DEVELOPERS. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN OPEN TO DISCUSSING WITH DEVELOPERS WHICH OF THOSE OPTIONS OR EVEN MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR A GIVEN PROJECT MIGHT BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND APPROPRIATE. UH, SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE

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DIFFERENT UH, ADVANTAGES OR DISADVANTAGES TO THOSE IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION COST AND IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS LIKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU MENTIONED COUNCILOR SO WE'RE ALWAYS VERY OPEN TO DISCUSSING AND LOOKING

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FOR THE BEST HOUSING OUTCOME UH ,WHETHER THAT'S ONE OR MULTIPLE OPTIONS OF THE OF THE OBLIGATION METHODS. THANK YOU. >> THAT'S THAT WAS THE CASE MOST SEVERAL TIMES IN UM UH,

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MARY ELLEN MCCORMICK UH PUBLIC HOUSING UM DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH BOSTON WHERE IT WAS UH WAS RUN DOWN UM UNFORTUNATELY BUT UM WE

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CAME TOGETHER TO REBUILD IT BUT SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM UM DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OR IN OUR DISTRICT OR IN SOUTH BOSTON I SHOULD SAY UM IS GOING TO THAT DEVELOPMENT.

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UM I THINK IT'S UH BUT BUT THAT'S A CRITICAL FINANCIAL PIECE THOUGH, ISN'T IT? AND ERIC. . >> YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD YOU KNOW, I THINK UM IT'S ALWAYS UH YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CASES WHERE

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YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY PIPELINE THANKS TO THE GREAT WORK OF CHRISTINE'S TEAM. UM, AND I KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS OUT THERE. WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY PIPELINE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES.

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SO WHEN WE SEE A PROJECT THAT HAS A NEED FOR FUNDING, RIGHT I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THOSE POTENTIAL MATCHES OF OF MODERATE ID PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO TRIGGER IDP. UM, AND YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING

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WHETHER IT WOULD MAKE SENSE INSTEAD OF HAVING UNITS ON SITE TO TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE REALLY NEEDED FUNDING FOR UH FOR A NEARBY UM NEARBY PROJECT WHICH TAKES SOME PRESSURE OFF OF OUR UM OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE

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FOR AFFORDABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO ABSOLUTELY LIKE ANDY SAID I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WHERE WE'LL TAKE IT HOWEVER WE CAN GET IT. WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING HOWEVER WE CAN GET IT. UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE ID

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THE PURPOSE OF THE IDP UM, PROGRAM IS TO CREATE MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS WHY WE YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHY THERE'S THAT SORT OF, UH, REQUIREMENT THAT OFFSITE PROJECTS BE WITHIN UM, THE VICINITY OF THE OF THE MARKET

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RATE PROJECT. UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ANALYZING IT FROM MULTIPLE PERSPECTIVES AND TRYING TO GET THE BEST, UH, WHAT'S BEST FOR FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THANK THANK YOU WORK AND AND

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ANDY BUT I ALSO FAILED TO MENTION I ALSO WANT. >> TO SAY THANK YOU TO CHRISTINE FOR HER IMPORTANT WORK, HER IMPORTANT LEADERSHIP AS WELL. UM. MADAM CHAIR, I WAS GOING TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BUT I DON'T WANT TO.

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I DON'T WANT TO DO IT IF IF MY TIME IS SHORT. IT'S JUST UH SO, YOU KNOW, ASK AWAY. UH, I COULD ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. OKAY. UM, SO MAYBE. I'LL ASK THE QUESTION TO. >> TO CHRISTINE. >> UM.

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CHRISTINE, WHEN WHEN THE IDP MONEY IS MOVED INTO PUBLIC HOUSING, UM, TO SUPPORT PUBLIC HOUSING THEN THEN WHAT IS THE

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MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING'S UH RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS. >> OF. ,UM, WORKING WITH THE VHA? TELL ME ABOUT WHAT IS THAT RELATIONSHIP OR DID OR DOES.

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THE MONEY JUST GO INTO VHA AND THEN VHA UM MOVES FORWARD WITHOUT WITHOUT MUCH INPUT OR UM UH FOLLOW UP FOLLOW UP IS THE KEY BUT CAN.

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YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT . UM HOW YOU FOLLOW UP WITH BOTH ON OFF SITE INTO VHA DEVELOPMENTS? YES. >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE WORKING

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RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BAR ON ALL OF THEIR PROJECTS THAT WE DO, BUT THE PROJECTS THAT UM ARE DIRECT DESIGNATIONS TO A BJ PROJECT. THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE MUCH INVOLVEMENT IN THE UNDERWRITING

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PIECE OF IT. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TEAM AND STAFF OF IT. WE OF COURSE ARE MAKING SURE THAT THE ALLOCATION FROM THE IDP FUND IS THE ACCURATE AND CORRECT AMOUNT THAT SHOULD BE GOING TO THE PROJECT.

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SO WE MONITORING THAT SENSE. BUT THE BAR IS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE DEVELOPER OF THAT PROJECT SUCH AS MARY ELLEN MCCORMICK. BUT UM ENRIC YOU MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE MONITORING PIECE

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OF IT IN THE SENSE OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNITS AFTER LISA. YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION UM, WHEN IT'S AN OFF SITE UH, AN OFF THAT OBLIGATION WHERE

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LIKE YOU SAID, UH, CHRISTINE, THE MONEY IS THE FUNDING IS GOING DIRECTLY FROM THE MIGRATE DEVELOPER TO THE OFFSITE PROJECT THAT ACTUALLY DOES NOT FLOW THROUGH THROUGH WORK AT ALL AS OPPOSED TO MAKING A

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PAYMENT INTO THE IDP FUND. AND THEN WE WERE DISPERSING IT IN THAT CASE WHEN IT'S AN IDP FUND PROJECT PROJECT THAT WE ARE DISBURSING, WE OF COURSE ARE WE'RE DOING ALL OF OUR UH YOU KNOW, OUR TYPICAL

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MONITORING THAT WE WOULD DO FOR ANY ANY PROJECT THAT WE FUND UNDERWRITING ETC. AND AND THE ONGOING THE THE ONGOING MONITORING BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A HAVE A STRUCTURE ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY BUT UM BUT IF IT'S A

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DIRECT IF IT'S A DIRECT UM DESIGNATION UH TO TO A PROJECT I THINK IT WORKS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN. UM, SO ARE YOU GOOD ON QUESTIONS FOR NOW? YES YES I AM THANK THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR. UM, PERFECT. I WANTED TO ASK UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT YOU

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MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE 36 AROUND 36 MILLION EXPENDITURES OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU HAD A PROJECT THAT THAT WOULD ALLOCATE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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YEAH WE ARE WE DO AND UM HAPPY TO HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT UM, UM TO YOUR OFFICE UM I KNOW YOU HAD REQUESTED THAT I SENT IT TO IDR I'M NOT SURE IF THEY THEY GOT IT TO YOU IN ADVANCE. I HAVE IT I WOULD JUST WAS CURIOUS IF YOU COULD READ IT INTO THE RIGHT. >> OH SURE.

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OF COURSE. YEAH YEAH SO AND JUST TO UM TO UM TO CLARIFY YOU KNOW THE THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW THE $30 MILLION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AUTHORITY FOR, UM, IS BASED ON OUR PROJECTED

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REVENUE OVER THE NEXT 1 TO 2 YEARS. UM, BUT BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS TAKE 2 OR 3 FOUR YEARS TO TO PROGRESS FROM THE TIME THAT WE AWARDED UM, AND SINCE MOST OF THAT FUNDING

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IS ALREADY ACTUALLY ALLOCATED TO TO TO TO PROJECTS UM SO THE THE PROJECTS AND IF YOU I'M HAPPY TO UM TO TO READ THESE OFF IT'S YOU KNOW A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD THESE ARE AWARDS I WILL JUST POINT OUT

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THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE UM BUT THESE ARE UM WHAT WE ANTICIPATE UM, COMMITTING FUNDING TO OR CLOSING ON UH, IN THE NEXT 1 TO 2 YEARS. SO THAT INCLUDES UM 353 TO 359

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AND 391 TO 395 BLUE BLUEBELL AVENUE AND ROXBURY UM UM SO UM SPONSORED VILLAGE RUSSELL HOUSE AND MATTAPAN UM 2085 WASHINGTON STREET AND ROXBURY TWO STAR

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SHEEN UM AND EAST BOSTON 4052 WARREN STREET IN ROXBURY UH DUBAI APARTMENTS ROXBURY UH TOP BLOCK UM PHASE TWO THE HANCOCK

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BUILDING AND DORCHESTER UM ONE WAVERLY AND ROXBURY UH PARCEL 12 C AND CHINATOWN AND UH DREXEL VILLAGE AND ROXBURY. THANK YOU. UM, I WANTED TO ASK ONE

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QUESTION RELEVANT TO ARTICLE 39 WHICH ALLOWS OFF-SITE UNITS TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN LIEU OF PROVIDING THEM ON SITE IF THEY'RE IN ONE HALF MILE RADIUS OF A PROJECT RIGHT NOW THERE'S

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A PROPOSAL FOR THE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, TO CHANGE THIS REQUIREMENT BY INCREASING THE RADIUS TO TWO MILES. UM, MY DISTRICT DOES HAVE SOME

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CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE OFTEN WANT TO SEE UM YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING WE WANT TO SEE THERE YOU KNOW, BEING AFFORDABLE UNITS IN

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DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS AND CLOSE TO TRANSPORTATION. UM, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS SORT OF UM, I DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR LIKE THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF EACH ON THIS, BUT I JUST

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WANTED TO ASK WHAT, UM, IMPACT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD HAVE ON THE TYPES OF, UM, PROJECTS THAT GET BUILT, UM, AND AND KIND OF THE UM WHICH YEAH. >> THANK YOU.

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COUNCILOR, I CAN START WITH THE MATTER OF IF UM AND IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I UM I THINK AS YOU SAW FROM THE UH IN THE LIST OF PROJECTS I JUST

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RATTLED OFF AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE THE IDEA OF YOU FUND PROJECTS UH, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I MEAN, WE DON'T WE DON'T ALLOCATE OUR FUND REVENUES TO

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ANY PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD OR WE WE DON'T WANT TO SIT ON FUNDING AND WAIT FOR PROJECTS TO MATERIALIZE IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING CRISIS. RIGHT? SO WE PUT IT OUT THROUGH COMPETITIVE PROCESSES AND TRY TO GET IT GO AHEAD AND AND A LOT OF THAT FUNDING HAS GONE TO

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GONE INTO YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE ROXBURY, MATTAPAN, DORCHESTER NEIGHBORHOODS UM THAT THAT ARE SEEING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE PROPOSAL AROUND THE OUTSIDE I GUESS AND I APPRECIATE YOU

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SAYING THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE OFFICIAL UM, MAJOR MAYOR'S OFFICE UM, POSITION ON THIS. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER UM, AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS

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OF THE IDP UM, PROGRAM IS TO CREATE MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT TIGHT RADIUS. IT'S BECAUSE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE SEEING MARKET RATE, UH, DEVELOPMENT GO UP ESPECIALLY IN

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A LUXURY DEVELOPMENT GOING UP, THEY WILL ALSO WANT TO SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOING GOING UP IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL TO KEEP UM TO KEEP IT UH MIXED INCOME. UM SO I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AND SO RELAXING

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THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD I THINK YOU KNOW, TEMPER THAT A LITTLE BIT BUT UM BUT AGAIN THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHTS THAT . I WANT TO BE FOR SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE THE FENWAY CIVIC ASSOCIATION WHICH

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IS ONE OF OUR MOST ACTIVE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS IN MY DISTRICT, UH, WAS VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ON IN THE FENWAY AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE

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PROJECTS NEARBY THAT MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS UM, A MIX OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND I'M CURIOUS UM,

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OBVIOUSLY WE'RE UM IN SORT OF AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN AS IT COMES TO MARKET REDEVELOPMENT AND I'M CURIOUS, UM, YOU KNOW,

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THIS UH, BY THE SINCE 2000 HAS COLLECTED DID YOU SAY OVER IS IT OVER $250 MILLION? UM, WE'VE YEAH, WE'VE COLLECTED UH, SINCE WE'VE SINCE WE'VE

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BEEN ADMINISTRATING 2014 REFLECTED 217 MILLION AND WE'RE PROJECTED TO COLLECT ANOTHER YOU KNOW, 2530 MARK. OVER THE. >> NEXT YEAR OR TWO. SO I'M CURIOUS UM, GIVEN HOW THIS YEAR'S UH, PROJECTION

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COMPARES TO OTHER YEARS. YEAH, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT $15 MILLION A YEAR IN REVENUE FOR FOR A WHILE NOW. UM, AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR THE NEXT 1 TO 2

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YEARS BUT WE ARE BECAUSE BECAUSE PAYMENTS, YOU KNOW, ARE BEING MADE AT THE TIME THAT BUILDING THE INITIAL THE INITIAL PAYMENT AT LEAST END OF THE CURRENT POLICY IS MADE AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT. UM, SO THE SLOWDOWN THAT WE'VE

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SEEN OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE ARE WORRIED THAT THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR PROJECTED REVENUE GOING FORWARD. UM, NOW THINGS CHANGE VERY YOU KNOW, KIND OF VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND UM, WHAT I'VE SEEN

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IN MY TEN YEARS HERE IS THAT UM OFTEN WILL BE YOU KNOW, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHERE WE WE WERE EXPECTING REVENUES TO DROP OFF AND THEN YOU KNOW, A FEW BIG PROJECTS HAPPENED DOWNTOWN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S YOU KNOW, THAT TRIGGERS

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BIG OBLIGATIONS AT THE FUND. SO UM YEAH, WE'RE DEFINITELY WORRIED ABOUT THE DECLINING UH ,IDP REVENUE AS WELL AS AS WELL AS UM UM LINKAGE BUT UH,

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YOU KNOW, THAT COULD CHANGE AND I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THINGS UM, UH, TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE SOME OF THESE STOCK PROJECTS, MARKET RATE PROJECTS ALONG THAT WILL WILL GENERATE SOME IDP UNITS AND

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REVENUE. YEAH, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A MYRIAD OF LIKE OTHER TOOLS ARE USING TO TRY TO KICK START DEVELOPMENT AND THE HOUSING SALARY COMPANY AND AND

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OBVIOUSLY THE PARTNERSHIP WITH UH WITH THE STATE AND I THINK UM YOU KNOW HAVING YOU KNOW, BIT OF THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT HOUSING WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT PARTNERSHIP

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AND I THINK THAT UM, YOU KNOW, I AM ALSO HOPING TO UM SEE SOME OF THE UH, FAIR SHARE, YOU KNOW, MONEY COME OUR WAY AND TO TO MAKE SURE THAT LIKE WE'RE

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ACTUALLY INVESTING IN WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CPA FUNDING I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO AND

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GENERATE AND CREATE THE MOST GOOD. UM, SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO EMILY FOR UH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP OF THE STEWARDSHIP I FEEL LIKE UM, KICKSTARTING

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DEVELOPMENT IS A COMPLICATED TO BANK BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A LOT OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF BOSTON CANNOT CONTROL.

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UM, BUT AS MUCH AS AS MUCH AS WE CARE AND I SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CREATE THIS MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES AND THERE ARE UM,

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YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY LIKE THE VHA IS A BIG PART OF THIS AS WELL AND UM AND SO EXCITED UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE POTENTIAL UH, FOR MORE OF THESE

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PROJECTS EVEN IN THE FUTURE OBVIOUSLY MIGHT INVOLVE I MEAN OVERALL ADMINISTRATION AND SOME OTHER FACTORS BUT UM, I THINK THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR FOR OUR

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CITY TO REALLY TAKE HOLD AND GIVEN THE, YOU KNOW, MOST RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT AROUND RENT CONTROL BEING OFF OF THE BALLOT ,UM, WHICH HONESTLY I FIND TO BE A LITTLE BIT EARLY BECAUSE I

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THINK IT WE'RE IN THIS MOMENT WHERE UM, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES THAT ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND IN ALMOST POLLING UM, THIS GUN VIOLENCE QUESTION I LIKE THE

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DISTRACTION OF LIKE SO MANY UM ,SO MOVING I THINK UM FINDING THE AFFORDABILITY AND TRYING TO LIKE SUPPORT AFFORDABILITY TO ME MEANS SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT

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AND FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, 20% OF SOMETHING OR SOMETHING OR SO HOWEVER WE CAN GET THIS UM, KICK STARTED I THINK UH I THINK FOR UM, YOU KNOW, COVETED BUT

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OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A HUGE HOLE IN OUR IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR REGARDING UM, SMALL PROJECT PERMITS AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK SORT OF WHAT COLLABORATION

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IS HAPPENING WITH THAT IN THE MAYOR'S CABINET TO KICKSTART DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE ON THE RECEIVING END OF SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT

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PROJECTS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. UM, I JUST CURIOUS SORT OF WHAT KIND OF TASK FORCE OR COMMUNICATION IS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE

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MAYOR'S OFFICE AND YOUR WORK? YEAH. >> SO COLLABORATION DEFINITELY HAPPENING. UM AND DO YOU WANT TO UM SAY MARIANNE MORE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE NETWORK? YEAH, SURE. >> THANKS, RICK. AND THANKS, COUNCILOR FOR THE QUESTION.

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I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE. UM, AS I THINK RICK MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS ALWAYS HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN TO DISCUSSING WITH DEVELOPERS, UM, YOU KNOW, OF NEW PROJECTS OR APPROVED PROJECTS WHICH OF THE

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DIFFERENT IDB IDP OBLIGATION METHODS MIGHT BE MOST APPROPRIATE UH, AND MOST SUITABLE TO THEIR PROJECT AND YOU KNOW, OUR DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN UH, TO HEAR FROM HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS AND HEAR PROPOSALS SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY MUCH. UM YOU.

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>> KNOW ALWAYS WILLING. TO TO TO TO SPEAK WITH. >> FOLKS. I THINK UH I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK AS MUCH FOR SOME OF THE UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY BUT I, I KNOW THAT UM, THERE'S THE AS RICK

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MENTIONED, THE HOUSING ACCELERATOR FUND, UH, WHICH IS A PART OF THIS OFFICE FOR RESIDENTIAL CONVERSION AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS SOME OTHER INITIATIVES AS WELL. SO CERTAINLY UH, WE'RE ALWAYS

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UH, WANTING TO BE COLLABORATING WITH WITH UH EXTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PARTNERS AND THERE'S A LOT OF US HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY AS WELL. AND I DO WANT TO SHARE THAT I DO HAVE A CONCERN I MEAN, IT

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REALLY IS HAS BEEN THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OVER 100 UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING LIKE THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING BUILT AND I THINK UM COUNCILOR FLOOD

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ACTUALLY HAS REALLY BEEN THE LEADER TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT LIKE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REGULATORY HURDLES WE NEED TO

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ADDRESS AT THIS MOMENT AND UM, WHILE I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF BERTO AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF UM, THIS THE REGULAR STRETCH CODE, I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL MUNICIPAL OPT IN STRETCH

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CODE. UM, BECAUSE THE THICKNESS OF THE WALLS, THE WINDOWS, THE ENGINEERING UM SPECIFICALLY UM YOU KNOW, I'VE MET WITH SOME

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ENGINEERS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE NEED FOR AMBIENT AIR GIVEN THAT WE'RE SUCH A COLD CLIMATE . UM, THERE ARE ENGINEERING CHALLENGES TO SPECIFICALLY AND ESPECIALLY THE LOGICAL OPTION

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OF BERTO, WHICH I WAS A PART OF A PART OF THE REGULAR STRETCH CODE. AND SO I WAS CURIOUS IF EMIRATES HAS BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS REGARDING REGARDING THAT ESPECIALLY ON

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THE SCHOOL OPTION. UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE OPTED INTO THAT AND THEY WANTED TO ROLL OUT OF IT. UM, WORCESTER IS ONE EXAMPLE

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AND THEY WERE BASICALLY TOLD THEY COULDN'T UM THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ROLL OUT OF IT UNTIL THEY HAD THREE YEARS OR THREE YEARS OF COMING UP WITH IN JANUARY 2027.

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SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW EACH OF THEM AND ANY POLICY DISCUSSIONS REGARDING UH BECAUSE I REALLY THINK IT'S LIKE WE DON'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MUST BE PART THAT. YEAH. >> RICK, IF I COULD JUST JUMP

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IN ON THAT UH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW BERTO AND YOU KNOW THE COSTS RELATED TO STRETCH AND STUFF IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT COMMITTEES WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED

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IN, BUT WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND LIVABLE COMMUNITIES AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE MATCHING. AT ONE POINT WE HAD DIFFERENT

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ONES AND ADDED CONFUSION AND STUFF BUT WE HAVE ALIGNED A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON YOU KNOW, COMING UP ON THE THREE YEARS I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT EXACTLY HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT

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APPROACHING THIS GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND COUNCILOR FLYNN, UM, YOU KNOW I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THIS UM I'VE HAD SOME ENGINEERS ACTUALLY AFTER ONE OF YOUR

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HEARING ORDERS JUST TO UNDERSTAND MORE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A POINT OF COLLABORATION TO JUST TRY TO COME TOGETHER AND SEE UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN

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TERMS OF ENGINEERING WE DEFINITELY NEED HELP PLAN UM, BECAUSE IF THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS OVER 100 UNITS OF HOUSING BEING BUILT IN THE CITY LIKE WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES AND AND ALSO OTHER

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CITIES THAT HAVE OPTED INTO A SPECIAL MUNICIPAL OFTEN UM ARE ALSO FINDING IT POSSIBLE TO BUILD UH LARGER UNITS OF HOUSING. UM, YOU KNOW SOMETHING WE

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DEFINITELY SHOULD LOOK AT UM, AS COUNCILOR PLENTY OF ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM, MAYBE MAYBE TO TWO POINTS. UM, I I JUST WANTED TO LET

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CHRISTINE. AND ANDY AND RETNO AND I KNOW. AND I KNOW YOU DO KNOW. >> BUT, UM, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, UM. I FOCUS. >> A LOT ON PUBLIC HOUSING. UM, I HAVE THE MOST PUBLIC

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HOUSING UNITS OF ANY DISTRICT CITY COUNCIL IN BOSTON. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE IN SOUTH BOSTON. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY MORE VHA UNITS.

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THAN THAN ANY UM OR MAYBE OR THE SECOND MOST OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY. UM, I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE. A LOT. >> OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IN THE CITY TAKES PLACE.

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IN IN DISTRICT TWO. UM, IN A LOT. >> OF THE MONEY. DOES LEAVE UM UM AND TO SUPPORT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN ROXBURY. >> AND DORCHESTER. >> AND OTHER WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOODS I. DON'T I DON'T.

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HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. UM, BUT I DO. CHALLENGE UM, OFFICIALS ON PUBLIC HOUSING ISSUES. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M A

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STICKLER FOR, UH, SUPPORTING RESIDENTS IN PUBLIC HOUSING. UM, AND. I ADVOCATE FOR THEM ON ALL TYPES OF ISSUES INCLUDING UM,

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THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS. UM, I'M FOCUSED EXCLUSIVELY NOW ON PROVIDING A SAFER, UM,

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BUILDING FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND SENIORS ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE THAT NEED AN ELEVATOR. UM, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE I I HAVE AN OBLIGATION WHEN I ADVOCATE

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FOR MY CONSTITUENTS THAT I NEED TO ADVOCATE UM EQUALLY FOR PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS UM, OFTENTIMES. AND SHEILA DILLON HAS BEEN AN EXCELLENT ADVOCATE IN WORKING

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WITH ME AND HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR SHEILA AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW . BUT I DO HAVE A CHALLENGING TIME WORKING WITH VHA LEADERSHIP. UM, ON ON QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES ESPECIALLY WHEN IT

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IMPACTS PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. UM BUT I CAN'T GIVE UP ON ADVOCATING FOR MY CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T

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WANT ME TO FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES AND THEY WANT ME TO KIND OF LET VHA UM, FIGURE THESE ISSUES OUT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MY CONSTITUENTS, I HAVE AN

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OBLIGATION TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM ESPECIALLY PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, SENIORS AND AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT UM WITH WITH YOU. UM ONE ONE FINAL.

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POINT I WANTED TO MAKE AND. LET ME LET ME. SAY UM AND I STARTED IT OFF ABOUT THE IDP UH, PERCENTAGES. BUT AND I'M I'M IN SUPPORT.

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>> OF OF WHAT YOUR OFFICE IS DOING. IF IF A DEVELOPER. MAY NOT. >> BE ABLE TO REACH THAT PARTICULAR PERCENTAGE THAT'S NECESSARY. THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT COULD BE HAD TO ENSURE THAT

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THE. DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD AND THAT YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN WORK WITH SOMEONE MIGHT BE ON IDP ISSUES. UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S A.

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SERIOUS UM. AN IMPORTANT COMPROMISE THE CITY MAKES. UM, I KNOW IT MIGHT BE POLITICALLY INCORRECT TO SAY THAT, BUT I DO THINK IT IS

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IMPORTANT TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD ON DEVELOPMENT UM, AND SUPPORT. DEVELOPERS I, I. DO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR DURKAN AS WELL. THE SOMETIMES THE BERTO

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REGULATIONS MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR. UM SHELTERS. IT CAN BE CHALLENGING FOR DEVELOPERS ON UM BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL

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REGULATIONS THAT ARE THAT ARE ADDED. UM BUT I DO THINK WE NEED. >> TO MAKE IT MORE UM. AND MAKE IT EASIER. INCLUDING FINANCIALLY EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO GET PROJECTS

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OFF THE GROUND AND NOT BE BURDENED BURDENED WITH SO MANY CITY REGULATIONS OR STATE REGULATIONS BECAUSE IT IS. HAVING AN IMPACT AND I GET CALLS FREQUENTLY FROM.

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NOT NOT REALLY. DEVELOPERS BUT FROM FINANCIAL PEOPLE THAT WANT TO INVEST THEIR MONEY INTO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND THEY'RE. ASKING ME ABOUT BERTO. THEY'RE ASKING ME ABOUT UM IDP

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THEY'RE ASKING ME ABOUT RENT CONTROL. I KNOW I KNOW THIS RECENT. RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT. UM, BUT THOSE ISSUES. ARE MAKING IT LESS LIKELY FOR

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FINANCIAL PEOPLE, UH, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TO INVEST THEIR MONEY IN THE CITY WHEN WE MAKE A WE MEANING EVERYBODY MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO BUILD HERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

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THOSE TWO POINTS WITH YOU AND MADAM CHAIR. UM THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR KWAN. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR STELLAR, UH, ATTENDANCE RECORD IN OUR COMMITTEE. UM, UM, AND LEFT THERE ANY LAST

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COMMENTS? UM, I DID WANT TO HAVE UM IF THERE AND IF THERE ARE ANY IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY? ON THE RISEN MADAM CHAIR? OKAY. THANKS, BRIAN.

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UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UM, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PANEL, UM, THE HEARING UM.

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JUST TO MAKE SURE. THE HEARING ON DOCKET 0968 SEEING THAT WE HAVE NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY UH, WE'LL BE ADJOURNED. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, PUTTING FORWARD UM, THIS AT THE

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NEXT MEETING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE FUND THESE PROJECTS. YOU CALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILORS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU EVERYBODY.