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DEUX TOOK ONE CITY COUNCILOR AND THEN THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS TODAY SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2025 AND IT IS EXACTLY
1002 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025 MODIFYING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND RELIEVING PUBLIC PARTIES OF CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT THAT
PUBLIC BODIES CONDUCT ITS MEETING IN A PUBLIC PLACE THAT IS OPEN AND PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE CONDUCTING THIS HEARING VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED.
IT IS ALSO BEING LIVESTREAMED AT BOSTON DARK OF FORWARD SLASH CITY COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 AND
FIREHOUSE CHANNEL 964. WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT SEXY DOGGO BOSTON DARKO AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THIS HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO TESTIFY. IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR
PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT DONE SO PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON MEGHAN CAVANAUGH AT AMAGI AND DOT K V
AND AGE H. I COULD DO THAT BY MEMORY NOW. MEGHAN AT BOSTON.COM FOR THE ZOOM LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST. TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET
0900. AN ORDINANCE CREATING A MUNICIPAL ID CARD IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR JULIAN HERE AND WAS
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON MARCH NINE, 2025. TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF THEIR ARRIVAL COUNCILOR FLYNN BRANDON MEJIA THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
LOUIJEUNE AND I'LL GO TO MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LEAD SPONSOR COUNCILOR MEJIA FOR ANY OPENING REMARKS THEY MAY HAVE
COME TO MEJIA YOU THE ZOOM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN HOSTING THIS HEARING AND THANK YOU TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES
FOR JOINING US TODAY. I'M I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR HEARING AND LEARNING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION NATIONAL LEADERS FROM PHILADELPHIA, NEW ORLEANS AND CHICAGO, LAWYERS FOR CIVIL
RIGHTS AND INDIVIDUALS HERE IN BOSTON WHO WILL GREATLY BENEFIT FROM A MUNICIPAL ID. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME BOSTON HAS CONSIDERED A MUNICIPAL I.D. PROGRAM.
IN FACT, AS FAR AS 2017 THE CITY UNDERTOOK A DETAILED FEASIBILITY STUDY OF WHAT WAS THEN CALLED ONE CARD INITIATIVE. THAT PROCESS PRODUCED A COMPREHENSIVE ROAD MAP BUT
STALLED BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION, LEAVING IMPORTANT QUESTIONS UNRESOLVED. AT THAT TIME MANY OF US INCLUDING NOW MAYOR WU THEN A CITY COUNCILOR WERE ENGAGED IN THESE DISCUSSIONS AND
RECOGNIZED THE POTENTIAL OF SUCH A PROGRAM. SEVEN YEARS LATER NOW WE FIND OURSELVES HERE AGAIN. AND WHILE THOSE EARLIER EFFORTS DID NOT COME TO FRUITION, THE
STUDY THEY PRODUCED GIVES US A FOUNDATION TO BUILD UPON. TODAY'S HEARING IS ABOUT PICKING UP WHERE THEY LEFT OFF AND LEARNING FROM THE GAPS AND HURDLES OF THE PAST AND CHARTING A PATH FORWARD THAT
AVOIDS DELAY AND MAKES MUNICIPAL IDENTIFICATION IN BOSTON A REALITY. THE BENEFITS OF A MUNICIPAL ID ARE CLEAR IT IS A TOOL THAT EXPANDS ACCESS AND REMOVES BARRIERS FOR RESIDENTS UNABLE
TO OBTAIN A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR A STATE ISSUED ID INCLUDING UNDOCUMENTED RESTAURANT RESIDENTS. LGBTQ EYE A TWO PLUS INDIVIDUALS PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN FORMERLY INCARCERATED UNHOUSED RESIDENTS AND OTHERS. THIS CARD CAN BE THE KEY TO SAFETY, DIGNITY AND ACCESS TO ESSENTIALS CITY SERVICES.
MY HOPE IS THAT THIS DISCUSSION TODAY BUILDS ON THE PAST WORK AND BRINGS US CLOSER TO IMPLEMENTATION THAT REFLECTS BOSTON'S VALUES OF INCLUSION AND EQUITY WITH THE RIGHT FRAMEWORK.
BOSTON CAN FINALLY JOIN THE GROWING LIST OF CITIES WITH LOCAL ID SO REALLY EXCITED TO LISTEN AND LEARN FROM THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING WORK ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND FIGURING OUT WHERE THE GAPS ARE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN HERE IN BOSTON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I YIELD THE REST OF THE TIME I DON'T HAVE. THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR MEJIA. COUNCILOR FLYNN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT.
I'M HERE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BREADON.
I WOULD JUST HAPPY TO HEAR A LISTEN AND LEARN AND HEAR ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. SO I HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT . THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE SUPPORT THOSE WHO ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS INCLUDING UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, FOLKS RETURNING HOME FROM
INCARCERATION OR THAT ALL THAT SORT OF KNOW HOW THIS WOULD INTERPLAY WITH WORK THAT WAS DONE TO PROVIDE DRIVER'S LICENSES FOR THOSE REGARDLESS
OF LEGAL STATUS. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THAT INTERACTION A LOT THAT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT WE CAN TALK TO ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE. SO YEAH, I MAY HAVE BUT LIKELY
GOING TO HAVE TO HOP PRETTY SOON BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING THE HEARING AND FOLLOWING MY COLLEAGUES ON ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COLLEAGUES ON AT
THE MOMENT BUT I'LL BE SURE TO RECOGNIZE THEM AS THEY JUMP ON . MY COMMENTS ARE ALSO VERY LIMITED. I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THIS CONVERSATION BUT I WANT TO THANK THE OR FOR THIS ITERATION OF THIS DOCKET AS ALWAYS A PART OF THIS HEARING.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND FROM VARIOUS ADVOCATES WORKING WITHIN THIS SPACE. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CHIEF REGISTRAR THE CITY REGISTRAR
AND THE CHIEF OF EQUITY UNDERSTANDING HOW SUCH A PROGRAM MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTED LOCALLY. THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES IN NEW YORK AND LOUISIANA AND HOW THAT
INTERACTS OR INTERTWINES WITH THE WORK THAT HAS JUST BEEN DONE THROUGH THE FAMILY MOBILITY ACT AT THE STATE LEVEL. HOW THE R&B COMES INTO PLAY AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL THERE'S OR AT LEAST IN SOME OF THE
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE STUDY IN 2017 OR 2018 THAT IT COULD ALSO INTERACT WITH OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM.
SO I THINK JUST GENERALLY GATHERING INFORMATION AND UNDERSTANDING THE POTENTIAL ADMINISTRATIVE IMPACTS AND THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF SUCH A PROGRAM ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT I'M
CONSIDERING. AND OF COURSE HOW THE BROADER FEDERAL LANDSCAPE MAY AFFECT BOTH THE DESIGN OF THE PROGRAM AND THE PROTECTION OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND SO MY GOAL TODAY IS JUST TO
ASK QUESTIONS, TO GATHER FACTS AND TO ENSURE JUST A FULL BALANCED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF THIS ORDINANCE COULD PRESENT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION.
WITH THAT I'LL PASS IT OVER TO CITY REGISTRAR PAUL CHONG AND OUR CHIEF OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION MARY ANGELES. SO PLEASE SERVE AREA FOR ANY
ORDER IN WHICH YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK IT OFF AND SORT OF PROVIDE SOME GROUNDING
AND SOME CONNECTION AS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SAYING TO THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN OUR CABINET AND IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND IN CONNECTION TO THE WORKING FAMILY MOBILITY ACT AND THEN I'LL PASS IT OFF
TO MY COLLEAGUE PAUL CHONG TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS. GOOD MORNING CHAIR. GOOD MORNING TO OUR LEAD SPONSOR COUNSELOR HERE AND OUR
COUNSELOR ZERO PRESENT. AND MARIANGELA, I AM A TEAM OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE HOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY IS INDEED A HOME FOR EVERYONE
PARTICULARLY FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE WE ARE CONNECTED TO WHO WE KNOW HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED HISTORICALLY AND PRESENTLY WE ARE VERY AWARE THAT THERE ARE
MULTIPLE BARRIERS PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDS INCLUDING FOR IMMIGRANTS, LGBTQ PLUS PEOPLE OR RETURNING CITIZENS AND OR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS WHO MAY
STRUGGLE WITH THE FEES. THAT IS WHY ALONGSIDE OUR STATE PARTNERS FOR THE CONTINUED WORK OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY LEADERS AND THE FEM THE WORK
AND FAMILY MOBILITY ACT PASSED IN 2022, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP SHARING RESOURCES, SHARING BEST PRACTICES.
AND FROM THEN WE ARE AWARE THAT THE R&B HAS HIRED 250 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR PERMITS AND DRIVER'S LICENSES. THEY'VE EXPANDED THEIR SERVICE HOURS.
THEY'VE ADDED SATURDAY APPOINTMENTS. THEY'VE TRANSLATED MATERIALS IN 15 LANGUAGES. THEY'VE BEGUN TO OFFER THE WRITTEN TEST IN 35 LANGUAGES. WE'VE MADE INTERPRETERS AVAILABLE FOR HUNDREDS OVER 100
LANGUAGES. AND THIS HAS LED TO THE R&B ISSUING MORE THAN 180,000 NEW LEARNER'S LEARNER'S PERMIT AND MORE THAN 120,000 NEW DRIVER'S LICENSES TO MASSACHUSETTS
RESIDENTS. AND THE FIRST YEAR AND WE WE BRING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT WAS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MEMBERS OF OUR DEPARTMENTS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SOME OF THE ADVOCACY WE'VE BEEN A PART OF AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. IN MARCH OF 23 THE DRISCOLL
ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED IMPROVEMENTS TO ACCESSIBILITY TO STATE IDS FOR INDIVIDUALS BEING RELEASED FROM MASSACHUSETTS DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION. THIS STREAMLINED PROCESS BEGINS SIX MONTHS BEFORE AN
INCARCERATED PERSON IS SET TO BE RELEASED SO THAT THE ID CARD IS READY TO BE GIVEN TO THEM UPON RELEASE. AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR OFFICE OF RETURNING CITIZENS, WE ENSURE THAT THIS CONTINUES
TO BE THE CASE BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS BEEN A HURDLE IN THE PAST AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THESE BARRIERS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE
CAN WELCOME OUR OUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND OUR NEIGHBORS BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THANKS TO THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND TO OUR MAYOR'S INVESTMENTS.
WE HAVE ALSO INCREASED OUR LEGAL AID FOR BOTH IMMIGRANTS AND LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITIES. SOME OF THE LEGAL AID WORK HAS SUPPORTED ASSESSING, ACCESSING
DOCUMENTATION AND ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTS TO OBTAIN PAPERWORK THAT WITH THEIR UPDATED INFORMATION. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT IN
PARTICULARLY IN OUR LGBTQ PLUS OFFICE THROUGH A GRANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO PARTNER AND YOU ALL HELPED US DOUBLE THE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR NAME
REPRESENTED IN THE DOCUMENTATION. SOME OF THE OTHER LEGAL ACCESS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO MOYA ENSURING THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE CONSTITUENT SERVICES THAT ARE SO NEEDED FOR
RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT WHILE WE'RE ALL HERE SHARING
AND VALUES WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING SORT OF THE INTRICACIES OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BETTER SERVE ALL RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED.
SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE OF UNDERSTANDING THIS AND REGARDING THE BENEFIT OF AN ID THAT PROVIDES AN X MARKER AS AN AGENT, AS AN ADDITIONAL GENDER
DESIGNATION. OUR OFFICE SUPPORTS REMOVING THE GENDER MARKERS FROM ALL FORMS OF GOVERNMENT IDENTIFICATION TO BETTER PROTECT PRIVACY AND SAFETY PARTICULARLY FOR GENDER DIVERSE RESIDENTS.
THIS IS BASED ON BEST PRACTICE FOR NOT COLLECTING PERSONAL DATA WHEN NOT WHEN IT'S NOT NECESSARY. AND THIS HAPPENED AFTER EXTENSIVE CONSTITUENT FEEDBACK FOCUS GROUPS SURVEYS ETC. AND
IT'S NOW IT'S ALSO WHAT INFORMED OUR GENDER AWARE GUIDELINES THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON IS NOW IMPLEMENTING. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW THE CITY CAN BE EVEN MORE RESPONSIVE AND
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND WHO HAVE FACED AND CONTINUE TO FACE CHALLENGES. OBTAINING A GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID. BUT I'M GOING TO NOW PASS IT OFF TO MY COLLEAGUE PAUL CHONG WHO WILL WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL
CONSIDERATIONS THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO SPEAK TO AND HE'LL HE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CONNECTIONS THERE FOR US. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
G G JAMES FOR THE HANDOFF I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR SPONSOR AND THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND ALL THE COUNCILORS WHO ARE PRESENT FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION'S
OPERATIONS AND THE WAY THAT WE MIGHT IMPLEMENT AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS. SO MY NAME IS PAUL CHONG AND THAT'S MY AS PART OF MY ROLE I
OVERSEE THE REGISTRY AND I HELP WITH ELECTIONS AND PUBLIC RECORDS. AND SO A LOT OF OPERATIONALLY FOCUSED WORK.
I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT EQUITY FIRST AND WHAT THAT MEANS IN THE CONTEXT OF OPERATIONS IS THAT THE KIND
OF WORK THAT WE DO IN THE REGISTRY IN PARTICULAR WE GIVES FOLKS MARRIAGE LICENSES, WE GIVE THEM BIRTH CERTIFICATES. THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT
DOCUMENTS THAT HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS LIVE THEIR LIVES AND DO THE THINGS START FAMILIES GET INSURANCE TO REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL THINGS.
AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL POLICIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN AND CONSTRUCTED AND THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO CREATE. FIRSTLY, WE HAVE WORKED WITH
THE EQUITY CABINET, THE US DIGITAL RESPONSE AND A WHOLE SLEW OF PARTNERS INCLUDING THE STATES TO REMOVE GENDER AND SEX FROM MARRIAGE LICENSES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN NO LONGER REQUIRE AND IN BOSTON THAT ACTUALLY LED THE STATE IN DOING THAT. SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
WITH BIRTH CERTIFICATES WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS WHERE YOU DON'T REQUIRE AN ID. STATE LAW GIVES THE REGISTRAR
DISCRETION TO REQUIRE ID AND I CAN RELEASE FIRST CERTIFICATES FOR OFFICIAL PURPOSES USING DISCRETION. AND SO WE HAVE A FORMAL POLICY TO DO THAT.
WE ALSO WAIVE FEES FOR ANY CONSTITUENTS OR RESIDENTS THAT ARE UNABLE TO PAY FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES. SO WE'VE DONE ABOUT 200 FEE
WAIVERS THIS YEAR. WE WERE VERY CLOSELY WITH THE OFFICE OF RETURNING CITIZENS THE SUFFOLK COUNTY D.A., ANY
NUMBER OF NONPROFITS. SO ANYONE WHO NEEDS ACCESS TO THEIR VITAL RECORDS GETS THEM. I REGARD THIS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE ABLE TO PAY AND WE DO TAKE.
WE DO DO OUR DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CASEWORKER OR WE CAN LOOK AT SCHOOL RECORDS TO VERIFY PEOPLE'S IDENTITY BUT WE DON'T LET THAT BE THE PRIMARY BARRIER TO
PEOPLE RECEIVING THEIR VITAL RECORDS. SO I JUST WANT TO START WITH THAT FRAMING THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEEPLY IMPORTANT TO US AND THE WAY THAT WE CONDUCT OUR OPERATIONS
. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WITH THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. FAMILIES NEED TO. FAMILIES NEED TO PROVIDE A COPY
OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN ORDER TO ENROLL THEIR KIDS IN SCHOOL AND SO IN THE PAST I HAVE A WONDERFUL LETTER FROM THE
ACTUALLY FROM THEIR FLYNN'S ERA THAT SAYS DEAR PARENTS, THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN YOU MAY WANT TO REQUEST A BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR THE PURPOSES OF SCHOOL ENROLLMENT.
PLEASE SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED ENVELOPE WITH POSTAGE PAID AN ENCLOSED CHECK FOR $5 AND WE WILL RETURN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.
AND SO WE HAVE SAW IT IN THE IN THE YEARS SINCE THEN TO REMOVE THOSE BARRIERS AND NOW WE HAVE AN ELECTRONIC PORTAL THAT
CERTAIN BEEPS WELCOME STAFF ARE ABLE TO ACCESS AND TO ELECTRONICALLY ACCESS THOSE BIRTH CERTIFICATES FOR BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS.
SO ALL THIS TO SAY WE'RE THINKING REALLY HARD ABOUT ACCESS TO DOCUMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT MONEY AND ID ARE NOT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
YOU CAN GET IN A VICIOUS CATCH 22 WHERE YOU NEED THAT ID TO GET A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND A BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO GET AN I.D.. AND WHAT I CAN PROMISE YOU IS THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE
PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE THAT ARE BOSTON RESIDENTS WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE. AND MOVING ON TO THE
OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR ISSUING OR EVEN CREATING KIND OF THE PROGRAM TO ISSUE MUNICIPAL IDEAS, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE. WE WOULD NEED TO DESIGN SOFTWARE. WE WOULD NEED TO PROCURE HARDWARE. LIKELY WE WOULD HAVE TO DO
STUDIES WITH USERS. WE WOULD WANT TO DO THIS WELL. SO MY PARENTS ARE HOURLY EMPLOYEES. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T GET PAID TIME OFF.
AND SO IF THEY HAD TO COME TO GET AN ID, I WOULD WANT IT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. AND IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT, WE'D HAVE TO DO THIS WORK REALLY WELL. RIGHT?
AND SO WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS THAT WE DESIGN SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES THAT ARE AS FAST
AND SECURE AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. SO WE'D HAVE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH PROCUREMENT TEAM
WITH THE EQUITY CABINET AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO FOCUS GROUPS. WE TALK TO PEOPLE, WE TALK TO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN OTHER CITIES LIKE OUR PANELISTS WHO JOINED
US TODAY. WE'D HAVE TO DO A LOT TO BUILD PROGRESS AND SYSTEMS. SO WE JUST WE DON'T HAVE THAT
RIGHT NOW. AND I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID THAT REALLY WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUDGETED OR DO.
A TEAM IS INCREDIBLY CAPABLE. BUT WE WOULD NEED PROJECT MANAGERS, WE WOULD NEED FUNDING AND SO I DON'T SAY THAT TO THROW UP OBSTACLES.
I SAY THAT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT IF WE WANT TO DO THIS WELL THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MARSHAL. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MARSHAL THOSE RESOURCES IN ADDITION TO
THAT. I WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE LOOKS LIKE IN PERSON. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAME TO CITY HALL AND YOU WENT TO THE TRANSACTION LEVEL AND I KNOW
THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THESE IDS IN LOCATIONS IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IF YOU CAME TO CITY HALL WHICH IS PROBABLY WHERE WE BASE MOST OF THE OPERATIONS OUT
OF THE SECOND FLOOR HAS A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT PLANNED RENOVATIONS. SO IN ADDITION TO THE 6000 APPOINTMENTS THE COUPLES HAVE
FOR MARRIAGE LICENSES AND THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO COME FOR MOVING PERMITS AND TO PAY PARKING
TICKETS OR FOR ELECTIONS OR OUR STRONG PARTNERS WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING SOME SERIOUS UPGRADES THAT ARE LONG OVERDUE QUITE FRANKLY. BUT WE'RE REPLACING OUR
ESCALATORS. WE'RE PUTTING IN A FOUR STOP ELEVATOR AND I THINK COUNCILORS ARE ALL AWARE OF THIS STRONG IS UNDERGOING RENOVATIONS NOW WE'RE MAKING OUR SERVICE COUNTERS WHICH ARE ABOUT THIS
HIGH AND THIS DEEP. WE'RE MAKING THOSE ACCESSIBLE ALL THAT IS GOING TO BE DISRUPTIVE. AND SO OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT
SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE'D NEED TO FIND SPACE OR OUR RESIDENTS TO GO. NOT ONLY THAT BUT WE WOULD NEED STAFF TO DO THIS WORK.
SO AT THE REGISTRY FOR EXAMPLE AND WE COULD GET YOU SIMILAR NUMBERS ADDS THE PARKING CLERK OR NEXT DOOR MY SEIU COLLEAGUES
PERFORM ABOUT 90 TASKS IN ANY GIVEN DAY. SO ISSUING BIRTH CERTIFICATES OR TAKING MARRIAGE, ISSUING MARRIAGE LICENSES AND TAKING
THOSE APPOINTMENTS I HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR PARTNERS AND LABOR. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT STAFFING AND BECAUSE THE LAST
THING I WOULD WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE STRESSED, OVERWORKED, OVERLOADED AND THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING SUCH A KEY PIVOTAL GOVERNMENT
ID SO WE WOULD NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM A LABOR PERSPECTIVE. AND I THINK IN 17 AND YOU KNOW THIS WAS A DIFFERENT WORLD I
BELIEVE THAT THE ESTIMATE WAS $8 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. AND SO I JUST SAY THAT AND AND I'M SURE WE COULD DIVE INTO THE
GUTS OF THAT. I'M NOT FAMILIAR I HAVEN'T REALLY REVIEWED THAT PROFORMA IN ANY WAY BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IT
WAS $8 MILLION FOR FIVE YEARS OF THE COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD TAKE TIME, RESOURCES AND PEOPLE TO DO THIS AND I'M NOT OPPOSED. THAT'S MY JOB TO BE HERE TO DO
THAT TO DO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAN FOR IT AND THAT WE DO IT WELL. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND I HOPE THAT THIS WAS HELPFUL TO YOU IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY REGISTRAR WAS CERTAINLY
HELPFUL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AS WELL AS TO THE CHIEF. I JUST WANT TO CALL THAT CALL OUT THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR BEN WEBER. BUT I WILL GO TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT
SHE MAY HAVE. I'LL PROVIDE US 7 MINUTES FOR FOR EVERYBODY AND YOU'LL HEAR THE TIMER. COUNCILMAN, HERE YOU HAVE BEFORE AS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR AND TO THE ADMINISTRATOR
OCEAN FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE BARRIERS AND THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND BEING ABLE TO MEET THE MOMENT AND REALLY HELP SUPPORT FOLKS.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, PAUL, IF YOU COULD FROM A I'M GLAD THAT YOU ENDED WITH LABOR BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR ME MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE
ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF AND MEETING WITH FOLKS CITY WORKERS WHO ARE PART OF UNIONS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HELP EXPAND THE LABOR WORKFORCE AND MAKING SURE THAT
THEY HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES. SO I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON HOW WE GO ABOUT THIS COULD BE AN ADDED VALUE FOR A LOT OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE UNDER UNIONS RIGHT NOW THAT THIS COULD BE A WAY TO ADD MORE
MEMBERS AND CREATE MORE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS. SO REALLY EXCITED THAT YOU ARE CALLING IT OUT IN THAT WAY BECAUSE I REALLY I'M GOING TO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS AN ASSET, AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO PROVIDE MORE JOBS TO CITY RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR IT FOR LEVEL SETTING US IN THAT WAY. NOW YOU'VE MENTIONED AND I THINK BOTH THE CHIEF AS WELL A
LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS THAT THE CITY IS DOING TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED AND FOLKS YOU KNOW, AROUND GENDER AFFIRMING
LABELING AND I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE OUR INTENT WAS BEYOND THE CITY, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO CASH CHECKS, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A
DIGNIFIED WAY TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT THEY POTENTIALLY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO WITH YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN'T GET A STATE ISSUED ID. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS KIND OF WHAT WHAT CAN YOU SPEAK TO IN REGARDS TO JUST OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL?
COULD YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BIRTH CERTIFICATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? BUT WHAT ABOUT UTILIZING AN I.D. SO PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE BANK AND CASH A CHECK AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF? CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?
SURE. I WOULD DEFER TO THE CHIEF ON THIS. I THINK SHE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT'S DONE BUT SHE'S HAPPY TO SHARE MY $0.02
AS WELL. SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND STATUTORILY I DON'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION OVER BANKS OR
PARTNERS A UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE OUTREACH TO SOME OF OUR FINANCIAL PARTNERS AND THE PARTNERS WERE OPEN MAYBE
HESITANT BUT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS FORMALIZED. I THINK EACH INDIVIDUAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD ACCEPT A BOSTON ISSUED I.D.. AND SO THERE'S IT'S THE KIND OF SITUATION WHERE EXCUSE ME I
THINK LEGALLY IT COULD WORK BUT THE BANKS THEMSELVES HAVE A SAY IN WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD ACCEPT THESE MUNI ID AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNCIL TO MEET WITH OUR PARTNERS AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THE CHIEF DID I DID I COVER THE BASE THERE? YEAH.
THEN THE ONLY THE ONLY ITEM I HAD IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO COUNCILOR, IS EXACTLY WHY WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING THESE PARTNERSHIP OPS WITH LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THE
MASSACHUSETTS POLITICAL TRANS COALITION TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE HELPING PEOPLE WITH THEIR DOCUMENTATION SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE AS RESIDENTS HERE IN THIS IN THE CITY AND BEYOND.
SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED WITH SOME OF THOSE PROGRAM ADEQUATE INTERVENTIONS TO AND TO ENSURE THAT YOU SEE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO MEET THE NEEDS WHILE ALSO BEING OPEN TO
FURTHER EXPLORATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN I'M JUST CURIOUS YOU KNOW, PAUL, YOU MENTIONED SOME SOME DOLLARS AND CENTS HERE IN TERMS OF THE COSTS THAT IT
COULD POTENTIALLY BE THAT WE WORK. I KNOW THAT FOR ME WHEN I GET MY LICENSE I THINK IT COSTS I DON'T KNOW THE DOLLARS. I CAN'T REMEMBER BUT THERE IS A FEE. RIGHT.
AND SO I'M LIKE IF I DO $50 TIMES 150,000 PEOPLE LET'S JUST SAY FOR INSTANCE IF WE EVEN WERE TO CHARGE THAT THAT WOULD BE $7,000,007.5 MILLION THAT
THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COLLECT TO PAY FOR SUCH A THING. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD RAISED.
YEAH. I MEAN I'M JUST THROWING OUT $50 BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF LIKE JUST STARTING OFF SOME BASE HERE. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, IF WE CHARGE FOLKS TO DO I MEAN ARE YOU THINKING THAT WE
WOULD BE DOING IT FOR FREE LIKE JUST GIVE ME SOME UNDERSTANDING ABOUT LIKE THE $8 MILLION AND ARE YOU THINKING THAT THIS WILL BE A FREE PROGRAM OR WHAT WHAT WAS YOUR THINKING BEHIND THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
COUNCILOR, I. I DEFER TO YOU AND THAT THIS BODY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS I THINK CURRENTLY AS WRITTEN IT'S IT'S
FREE. I WOULD SAY THAT BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE HERE IN THE REGISTRY $14 IS WHAT WE CHARGE FOR A COPY OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES AND
THAT CAN UNFORTUNATELY BE A BARRIER TO SOME FOLKS. SO I'D BE I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT $50. I WAS I WAS SORRY I THREW THAT OUT AS A GENERAL LIKE I WAS JUST BASED ON WHAT IT COSTS TO
DO THE LICENSE BUT IT WAS JUST A BALLPARK FIGURED I WOULDN'T. I THINK PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING ALREADY STRUGGLING. SO WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE FURTHER FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. BUT I WILL ALSO SAY IN THAT
SAME BREATH THAT WHILE IT'S WRITTEN YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE. THIS IS THE FIRST HEARING THAT WE HAVE AND THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO THINGS HERE PAST ITERATIONS
OF THIS BODY IS IS THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HEAR AND IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE GAPS AND THEN WE GO BACK TO OUR COALITION PARTNERS, GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEN WE DO A SERIES OF WORKING SESSIONS.
SO THIS IS THE INITIAL PART OF THE POLICY MAKING PROCESS. SO WHILE IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S ROOM FOR FOR THAT HERE IN THIS DIALOG SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU POINTED OUT THE FINANCIAL
BARRIER AND I THINK THAT THERE IS WAYS FOR US TO HELP ADDRESS THAT CONCERN THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AND SO APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT DIALOG.
SO JUST FROM THE ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE I THINK YOU KNOW I WORKED AT THE STATE ENOUGH AS THE FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR A WHILE SO I THINK ONE THING THAT
WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF IS THAT COLLECTED REVENUE LAGS UPFRONT INVESTMENTS, RIGHT? AND SO IF THERE ARE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE, IF THERE ARE UPFRONT
COSTS FOR THE PROGRAMS THEN YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT A KIND OF MULTIYEAR BUDGETING AND SQUARE UP WITH OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND WHAT THE
ACTUALS END UP BEING. AND SO THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY PARTNERS IN THE BUDGET OFFICE
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A TIMING QUESTION HERE IN TERMS OF IF WE WERE TO COLLECT FEES THAT REVENUE WOULD BE LAGGING BEHIND THE INVESTMENTS WE WOULD
NEED TO START UP THIS PROGRAM. YEAH, AND I KNOW I BELIEVE THAT MY TIME IS ENDING SOON BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS YOU KNOW, THE WAY I USUALLY I WE HAVE A CAN DO
ATTITUDE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON IS THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING AND ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WHEN WE ARE DEFINITELY UPLIFTING OUR MOST MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES
AND THIS CAME TO US THE BOTH YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO WERE UNDOCUMENTED AND AFRAID AND ALSO FOLKS WHO YOU KNOW, WHO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR GENDER IS AFFIRMED AND THAT
THERE ARE NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT LITERALLY. AND SO THAT ALL SAID, OUTSIDE OF JUST CITY GOVERNMENT WHICH I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO
YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN NAVIGATE OUTSIDE OF OUR OUR EVERYDAY FUNCTIONS. WHAT DO YOU THINK I CAN GO BACK
AND TELL CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL AND THIS MOMENT BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATION. SO ARE WE SAYING THAT THERE IS NO APPETITE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH AND BECAUSE
YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY DOING THINGS SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT'S WHAT I HEAR BUT THAT'S USUALLY WHAT A LOT OF THESE HEARINGS COME DOWN TO KIND OF LIKE JUST I JUST WANT TO GET RIGHT TO THE CUT HERE LIKE WHAT ARE WE SAYING HERE THAT WOULD
BE HELPFUL TO ME AND MY CONSTITUENTS? I WOULD I WOULD IMMEDIATELY START WITH PLEASE REACH OUT AND I MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SHARE
THE BEST CONTACT INFORMATION HERE TO THE DIFFERENT OFFICES AND THE EQUITY CABINET AND THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING CITIZENS IS TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE
SERVICES THAT YOU ARE ENTITLED TO AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. THANK YOU.
AND THAT IS THAT IS TIME CONSIDER HERE BUT WE'LL GO BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND. I JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT IN SECTION NINE IT DOES TALK ABOUT FEES WHERE THE APPLICATION OF THAT OF THE IDEA WILL BE FREE OF CHARGE SHALL NOT
COLLECT ANY FEES. AND SO IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A WORKING SESSION OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE THE SECTION IN WHICH WE WOULD DO SO. COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU HAVE 7
MINUTES. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM THAT IS HERE TO THE CITY REGISTER.
PRIOR TO MY JOB AS A CITY COUNCILOR I WORKED AS A PROBATION OFFICER ACROSS THE STREET AT SUPERIOR COURT AND WHEN SOMEONE WAS RELEASED FROM
PRISON ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY WOULD DO COMING INTO THE COURTHOUSE WAS ASK ASK MY HELP . BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
AND SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I TRIED TO DO WAS WE WOULD WALK OVER MOSTLY WAS WAS A MAN BUT I'D WALK OVER WITH THE
GENTLEMAN AND HELP HIM GET HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AT CITY HALL . BUT THAT WAS ALWAYS A BARRIER REALLY IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR
BIRTH CERTIFICATE COMING OUT OF JAIL AT PRESENT IT ALMOST PRECLUDED YOU FROM DOING A LOT OF FOLLOW UP PAPERWORK THAT YOU NEEDED TO DO.
BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST STEP AND SO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW IT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE YOUR TIME BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TEAM THERE THAT WAS AT THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE THAT WERE VERY
RESPECTFUL TO RETURNING CITIZENS WHEN THEY CAME INTO THE BUILDING. SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE THE STAFF, THE CAREER STAFF
THAT'S BEEN THERE SO SO. SO MR REGISTER, I HEARD AND LISTENED TO THE REASONS I HAVEN'T TAKEN A POSITION ON
THIS BUT I HAVE LISTENED TO THE REASONS WHY THIS PROPOSAL MAKES SENSE. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING FROM YOU
AS A AS SOMEONE THAT HAS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROPOSAL IF IF IT'S PASSED, IS THERE ANY DOWNSIDE TO THIS?
THANK YOU COUNSELOR, FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE ARE SO PROUD TO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS AT D.O.C. AND THE THAT THE STATE AND THE OFFICE
OF RETURNING CITIZENS WE NOW DO BATCH REQUESTS FOR THEM SO THEY SEND US THE LIST AND WE HAVE OFFICIAL SIGN OFF ON BOTH SIDES AND THEN WE PRESENT BIRTH CERTIFICATES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT IT'S THE WORK THAT YOU DID ON BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT ENABLED US TO SAY HEY, THIS HAPPENS A LOT. HOW COULD WE DO IT MORE EFFICIENTLY?
IN TERMS OF DOWNSIDES, I WANT THE THE COUNCIL TO JUST CONSIDER AND DELIBERATE ON THE PUBLIC RECORDS ASPECT OF THIS ORDINANCE.
SO CURRENTLY THE ORDINANCE DOES REFERENCE STYLE EXPLICITLY OUR STATE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW AND PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITIES AND ENCOMPASS PUBLIC RECORDS AND
STATE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW REQUIRES EXPLICIT STATUTORY EXEMPT CHAIN. AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS
MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL LAWS CHAPTER 66 STATES THAT FOR EXAMPLE SEXUAL ASSAULT AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THE RECORDS
CREATED BY THE STATE AROUND THOSE ARE EXPLICIT, HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT FROM THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW THAT IS WRITTEN ELSEWHERE. MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL LAW
CHAPTER FOUR I BELIEVE AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO WITHHOLD THOSE DOCUMENTS UNDER THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW THERE IS NO SUCH
STATE STATUTE EXEMPTING MUNICIPAL IDS OR THE RECORDS CREATED AROUND THOSE. THERE IS A PRIVACY EXEMPTION THAT'S EXPLICITLY NAMED AND I
THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE GOOD GROUNDS WORKING WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO WITHHOLD PHONE NUMBERS AND ADDRESSES.
BUT AS I THINK IT MIGHT BE HARD PRESSED FOR US TO WITHHOLD THE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.
IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE HERE BECAUSE THE THING THAT THAT ALSO WE HAVE THE STATE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW DOESN'T PROTECT AGAINST IS AND AND MAYBE
PROTECT IS THE PROBLEM WORD HERE BUT IT DOESN'T EXEMPT US FROM ANY OTHER DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW SO IT'S A FEDERAL ORGANIZATION OR TO SUBPOENA US
OR INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION THEN WE WOULD COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND THOSE RECORDS WOULD BE CREATED AND AVAILABLE. OBVIOUSLY WE'D DO EVERYTHING WE COULD TO SECURE THEM DIGITALLY
SO THAT THERE'S NOT UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS BUT THOSE RECORDS WILL EXIST AND THEY WILL BE VISIBLE TO OTHER PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE AND HOPEFULLY THE
DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. MAYBE I'M THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX A LITTLE BIT BUT IF SOMEONE
REQUESTED A IF SOMEONE WANTED A LICENSE FOR FOR WHATEVER REASON WOULD WOULD YOUR TEAM CONDUCT A
A BACKGROUND ON THEM TO ENSURE THAT IT'S THE RIGHT PERSON REQUESTING REQUESTING TO GET THE BACKGROUND TO GET THE ID
AND ALSO WOULD WOULD QUARRY CHECK ALSO BE DONE AS WELL SO COUNCILOR THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY
CONTEMPLATED IN THE ORDINANCE I WOULD SAY THAT THE BOP THE STATE QUARRY CHECK PROCESS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF
HERE ARE TRAINED IN AND AS YOU KNOW THE THEY KEEP A VERY, VERY TIGHTLY CONTROLLED ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TRAIN AND STAFF FOR US AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION AND
I KNOW MY TIME IS IS GOING TO BE UP I'M I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT IDENTITY THEFT THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN MANY
NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY WHERE YOU COULD YOU COULD TAKE OUT A CREDIT CARD IN SOMEONE'S NAME AND MAX OUT THE CREDIT
CARD. BUT HAVING THIS HAVING THIS IDENTIFICATION CARD COULD YOU POTENTIALLY THEN GET ACCESS TO
A CREDIT CARD AND AND THEN USE THAT CREDIT CARD FOR A FRAUDULENT GET FRAUDULENTLY GET
A AN I.D. BUT THEN USE THAT TO OPEN UP A A CREDIT CARD AND THEN MAX OUT STEAL ON SOMEONE'S IDENTITY. IS THAT IS THAT A SCENARIO THAT
THAT COULD HAPPEN IN IN HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. I SEE THE CHAIR'S HAND I'M SORRY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HERE I'M SORRY I SHOULD HAVE ARTICULATED IT JUST TO SAY THAT TIME IS UP, THAT'S ALL. I APOLOGIZE FOR CONFUSION. GO AHEAD TO THE REGISTER. THE FRAUD IS ALWAYS ON OUR
MINDS. I WOULD SAY, COUNSELOR, THAT WE WOULD WORK CLOSELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WE NEEDED TO BUT
WE WOULD NEED TO REALLY DESIGN AROUND THAT AND SO THAT WOULD TAKE AGAIN THE TIME AND RESOURCES WE WOULD CONSULT WITH EXPERTS AND DO EVERYTHING WE
COULD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A SECURE SYSTEM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF REGISTER FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR FLYNN, COUNCILOR BURTON I THINK SHE MAY HAVE HOPPED OFF CHAIR OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOUIJEUNE I THINK MIGHT HAVE ALSO JUMPED. WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY ,THANKS. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
GREAT. OKAY, SIR. YEAH, I GUESS. PAUL I DON'T KNOW. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN IN NEW YORK AND SAN FRANCISCO?
IN PHILADELPHIA THEY HAVE CITY IDEAS AND YOU KNOW HOW MAYBE CUTTING COSTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOU
KNOW, DO THEY HAVE THE SAME SORT OF WOULD THEY FACE THE SAME COSTS? WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THEM. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. GREAT NEWS ON THIS FRONT.
I BELIEVE THAT THE CHIEF HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO THIS BUT ALSO I BELIEVE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM SOME OF THOSE CITIES ON THE CALL HERE IN THIS HEARING.
SO I WOULD HATE TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY HERE BUT CHIEF, MY
UNDERSTANDING PRE-DATING MYSELF MAYOR WU BUT THEN COUNCILOR WOOD THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE BETWEEN THE HUMAN SERVICES CABINET AND PROCUREMENT OFFICER ON A FEASIBILITY STUDY BUT AS A
RESULT WE ARE ALSO HERE TO LEARN FROM OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS OTHER CITIES. OKAY. AND THEN SO IN TERMS OF THE
NUMBER OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE THINK WOULD UP FOR THIS, IT MAY BE AT THE BEGINNING ROUNDS AND MAYBE IT IS IN THE FEASIBILITY
STUDY AND 2017 OR WHENEVER THAT WAS DONE I CAN MAKE SURE TO PULL I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER ON US BUT WE DO KNOW
THAT THE NUMBER NOW WOULD BE LESS GIVEN THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE MOBILITY ACT IN THE STATE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE R&B
IN THE STATE AND DELIVERING BUT WE CAN GET YOU THE NUMBER OF FROM THE ORIGINAL FEASIBILITY STUDY. OKAY. AND SO I GUESS PAUL, I THINK
JUST TO SUMMARIZE I THINK YOUR ANSWER TO COUNCILOR FLYNN IF WE IF WE HAD THIS DATABASE YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE THE NAMES OF PEOPLE BUT NOT THE
CONTACT INFORMATION IS THAT TO YOUR SENSE AND OBVIOUSLY THIS ISN'T LIKE A LEGAL OPINION BUT THAT AND MAYBE THAT WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE LITIGATED. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY CLEAR.
SO NUMBER ONE, IT'S NOT CLEAR. NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THE NAMES AS THAT TO MY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR RIGHT. YES. AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE A
COUNCILOR AND A COUNCILOR AT LAW SO I WILL BE CAREFUL OF MY RESPONSE HERE. BUT THIS WOULD FALL EXEMPTION C THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE THE
REGULATORY AUTHORITIES. SO IF SOMEONE DISAGREED WITH US WE WOULD FACE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL THERE AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO SUPERIOR COURT. SO I DON'T I AM NOT OF EXISTING
CASE LAW AROUND SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY LIKE THIS BUT I FAIRLY IN MY EXPERIENCE WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE
SOMETHING. OKAY. AND WOULD WE HAVE TO IN TERMS
OF LIKE CREATING THIS DATABASE SO DO DO WE HAVE TO ADD PERSONNEL IF WE YOU KNOW IF WE IF WE HAD THIS PROGRAM IT WOULD
EITHER BE PERSONNEL OR OUTSOURCED. SO TIME OR MONEY IN THIS INSTANCE GIVEN THAT IT'S FAIRLY SENSITIVE INFORMATION, I DID MENTION THAT WE'D WANT TO DO
THIS IN-HOUSE BUT THE STATE OUTSOURCES THEIR VITAL RECORDS DATABASE. SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION AS WE START TO PLAN THE THE PROS AND
CONS AND AND THE DOLLARS AND CENTS. OKAY. AND THEN SO IF IT WAS IN-HOUSE WOULD WOULD IT BE THROUGH DO IT OR YOU KNOW WHO WHO WHO WOULD
ADMINISTER IT IN THAT OR HYPOTHETICAL ABSOLUTELY I I THE TECHNOLOGY COMPONENT OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE ADMINISTERED
BY DO IT AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS A RECENT EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARD FOR IT
NOT TO BE A DO IT OKAY LET ME SEE AND I GUESS IN TERMS OF I YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER GOING
TO A PRESENTATION A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT LIKE VOTER ACCESS AND YOU KNOW, THIS SORT OF PUSH BY THE REPUBLICANS FOR LIKE VOTER
ID AND PRESENTING ID AND THE NUMBERS OF OF YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES, AMERICANS WHO DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A YOU KNOW, A CURRENT DRIVER'S LICENSE, I THINK IT'S
PRETTY BIG. IT'S LIKE 20 MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. DO DO YOU HAVE SOME SENSE OF OF
IT EITHER IN THE STATE OR IN THE CITY OF HOW MANY PEOPLE MAYBE KALLSTROM HE ALREADY SAID THIS YOU KNOW, I'M I'M NOT SURE OPENING BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO
DON'T HAVE A CURRENT DRIVER'S LICENSE THIS IS INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, U.S. CITIZENS WHO JUST DON'T HAVE A GUN, CAN'T DRIVE, DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE
OR DO WE HAVE SOME SENSE OF HOW HOW LARGE OF A POPULATION THAT IS THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION?
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE R&D. I THINK ON THE ELECTION SIDE WE DON'T REQUIRE ID FOR VOTERS SO
THAT'S THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA FOR. YEAH, IT'S SORT OF THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THE REQUIRING VOTER ID IS TO POINT OUT LOOK HOW MANY
PEOPLE BE KICKING OFF YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S A YOU'RE NOT JUST YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ABOUT VOTER FRAUD IT'S THERE'S MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE WITHOUT THAT.
I SEE THE CHAIR WHO'S BACK. I THINK THAT'S THE END OF MY TIME NOW I'VE BEEN ON CAMERA. YOU EVER GET SORRY A MINUTE LEFT. GO AHEAD.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN THAT IS THE DEBATE BUT YOU KNOW, TRY TO HAVE PEOPLE SAY LIKE YEAH WELL YOU NEED AN ID YOU KNOW, TO GET ON AN AIRPLANE, YOU KNOW, 70 I.D. TO VOTE BUT REALLY LIKE YOU'D BE KICKING OFF A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO THERE'S A LOT OF AMERICAN CITIZENS DON'T HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSES. JUST THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY HERE IN BOSTON WHERE YOU CAN RIDE THE T AND THE BUS
AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU KNOW, EVEN LESS OF AN INCENTIVE TO GET A DRIVER'S LICENSE. BUT I THAT'S ALL I HAVE A CHAIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANKS
TO PAUL AND MARY ANGELA FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU TO OUR VICE CHAIR. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BUT I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF AND MAKE SURE I PUT 7 MINUTES FOR
MYSELF. I DID HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PUBLIC RECORD ASPECT OF IT BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN ANSWERED. I'LL CIRCLE BACK IF NOT IF I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME
OUTSTANDING INFORMATION THAT I WANTED TO GET BUT IT WAS HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN TERMS OF OPERATIONAL CAPACITY AND WHAT IS AND IS IT CURRENTLY
BUDGETED AND DO IT IS AWESOME. THEY ARE ALSO OVERSEEING MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND SO IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR THAT WE NEED PROJECT MANAGEMENT DESIGN SOFTWARE. I WAS IT WASN'T MENTIONED BUT EVEN LIKE THE LONG TERM PROTECTION AGAINST NEFARIOUS
ACTIVITY TO TRY TO GET ACCESS TO INFORMATION LIKE THIS PROCURING HARDWARE STAFF ALL OF THAT THAT COST WAS ESTIMATED
AT $8 MILLION IN THIS RECENT STUDY THAT WAS CREATED BY I FORGET WHO BUT I KNOW THAT IT WAS 2017 IN 2018 THIS ORDINANCE DOESN'T PROPOSE CREATING A
BRAND NEW PER SAY BUT IT DOES DESIGNATE AN ADMINISTRATIVE OR ADMINISTERING AGENCY WHICH WOULD PRESUMABLY BE YOUR SHOP CALL.
HOW LONG AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCES AND WE TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE BUT DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE IF THIS WERE TO PASS AND AND THE ONLY REASON I ASK THIS IS
BECAUSE IN THE ORDINANCE IT DOES GIVE A RUNWAY OF ONLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS. BUT HOW LONG WOULD THIS REALLY TAKE IF WE WERE TO ENDEAVOR ON
INSTITUTING THIS ORDINANCE UP? I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MEASURED YEARS FOR A FULL
ROLLOUT. BUT I THINK IF YOU IF WE WERE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THE TIME AND RESOURCES AND GET THE STAFFING,
I THINK WE DID IT AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO GET SOMETHING GOING. BUT AGAIN THAT'S I'D HAVE TO WE'D HAVE TO AS THE CITY DEDICATE THE RESOURCES TO MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD DO
THAT. SO AND THEN WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BALANCE ALL OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME IN THE CITY OF BOSTON WITH LIMITED RESOURCES. I KNOW THAT WE ARE A RESOURCE
RICH CITY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE LEAD SPONSOR SAYS OFTEN GIVEN THE NEW FEDERAL LANDSCAPE AS I MENTIONED IN MY OPENING REMARKS AND JUST VARIOUS ONGOING
INITIATIVES WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT, HOW WOULD A PROGRAM LIKE THIS FIT INTO YOUR WORKLOAD AND WHAT SORT OF INVESTMENTS OR SUPPORTS
CURRENTLY ARE YOU CURRENTLY WORKING ON? I THINK LIKE WHAT IS THE TOP PRIORITY RIGHT NOW OF CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE COMING TO YOU WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON
WITH THE STATE OF THE CITY AND WHICH IT IS IT'S IT'S AN IT'S IN A GOOD STATE I WOULD SAY I WOULD ARGUE BUT I THINK THIS IS MORE FOR MARY AND JULIE'S OF WHAT ARE YOUR ONGOING
INITIATIVES AND WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO ALLOCATE MORE INVESTMENTS AND THE INVESTMENTS IN THIS LAST BUDGET THAT YOU GUYS ARE PRE ADMINISTRATION AND
IT'S ONLY HEIGHTENED NOW WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON CONTINUING TO DO THE LONG TERM PROACTIVE TRANSFORMATION OF SERVICES PROGRAMING. THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE DO THROUGH OUR TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, OUR E AND I ACADEMY THAT'S ALL IN-HOUSE STAFF BEING HIRED WITH EXPERTISE, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS.
THEN THERE'S ALSO A PIECE FROM WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF US THE MOST RIGHT NOW WHICH IS FUNDING DIRECTLY INTO THE HANDS OF CEOS
THAT ARE DOING THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF WORKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT A GRANT THAT YOU ALL HELPED US DOUBLE WENT FROM $25,000 TO $50,000
THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GRANT TO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAS HELPED OVER 150 PEOPLE GET LEGAL DOCUMENTATION THAT REPRESENTS WHO THEY TRULY ARE
THROUGH LGBTQ PLUS OFFICE AND SO I THINK I HOPE WHAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM HERE IS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO FIND THE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. AND SO IF YOU CAN HELP US CONTINUE FINDING WHAT THE GAPS
MAYBE WE CAN CONTINUE FINDING NEW NEW WAYS OF ADDRESSING THEM AND SO I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S MORE DOLLARS HOUR INTO THE WORK
THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY NEED AND THE AND THE DIFFERENT ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING. THANK YOU. AND MY OTHER QUESTION THIS MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEBODY FROM DO IT ON HERE BUT
PAUL, IF YOU CAN TRY TO ANSWER BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT INTEGRATION AND PARTNERSHIPS, THE TECHNICAL INTEGRATION THERE'S YOU KNOW, THE BOSTON PUBLIC LIBRARY THIS COULD ACT
AS A LIBRARY CARD. I KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES DO THIS AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM THEM OF HOW THEY DID THIS SUCCESSFULLY. BUT EVEN WITHIN LIKE THE CHARLIE CARD SYSTEM OR OTHER
CITY CITY COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS, HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND DO THAT WELL AND ALSO SECURE THAT INFORMATION ACROSS ALL OF THESE
VARIOUS SYSTEMS WITHIN DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WITH THE MTA AS WELL AS WITHIN THE CITY LIKE BPO. I THINK THIS IS WHY WE'D BE
LOOKING AT PROJECT MANAGERS SO THERE WOULD DEFINITELY I THINK TECHNICALLY I BELIEVE THAT TOO AND COULD DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO
WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH AT THE STATE AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TECHNOLOGY MESHES SO WE'D HAVE TO WE'D
HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT AND I THINK THAT WOULD THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CARD THAT WORKS EVERYWHERE IN
THE WAYS THAT WE WANT IT TO. THANK YOU. JUST GOING TO REVIEW MY QUESTION ON PUBLIC RECORDS. JUST IF AN ENTITY WE DON'T HAVE
TO NAME WHICH ONE REQUESTED DATA ABOUT HOW MANY ID CARDS ARE ISSUED TO NON-CITIZENS IF WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE NAMES BUT THERE'S CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS.
DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND THE CITY CAN TRY AND SAY THAT THIS IS AN UNWARRANTED INVASION OF PRIVACY.
THERE'S JUST ALWAYS A RISK THAT WE WOULD LOSE IN LITIGATION. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE RISK IS. THANK YOU. I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THE LEAD
SPONSOR COUNCILOR MEJIA FOR A 5 MINUTES OF QUESTIONS. CAN YOU HEAR ME AND SEE ME? YES, WE CAN. OH, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU ALL NOW I'M JUST ALL RIGHT, SO I'M
JUST HERE AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO PRESENT HERE TODAY. IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT FOR US, YOU KNOW, DATA PROTECTION IT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE AND WE DO NOT WANT ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
SO SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR UPLIFTING THAT. AND WE ALSO HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AT THE FOREFRONT TOO. SO I REALLY I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THOSE RETURN ON INVESTMENTS
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN AND HOW FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE BEING THREATENED RIGHT NOW. AND THAT SAID, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAVE ANY FIGURES ABOUT
HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO PRINT, YOU KNOW, OUT LIBRARY CARDS AND SEVEN CARDS STUDENT IDS AND OTHER CITY CARDS AT THE MOMENT AND IF THERE'S ACTUALLY ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY BY
CONSULTING DATING ALL OF THOSE INTO ONE CARD AND KNOW THAT'S A BIG QUESTION PAUL AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THE ANSWER IN TERMS OF JUST THE DOLLARS AND CENTS. SO I WANT FOR THE RECORD FOR THOSE WHO ARE TUNING IN TO
REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WITH THIS IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T TRUST GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW AND BECAUSE THEY TRUST US AT LEAST ON THE LOCAL LEVEL BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME COMFORT FOR
SOME FOLKS WHO ARE AFRAID TO EVEN GO THROUGH THE STATE TO EVEN GET A LICENSE. RIGHT. THERE'S JUST SOME FOLKS WHO JUST DON'T WANT TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO
COMPROMISE THEIR STATUS OR TO UNDERMINE THEIR GENDER AFFIRMING PRONOUNS AND HOW THEY WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED. AND SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE
WHO'S TUNING IN TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE WHY WE'RE BEING WHY WE'RE PUSHING AS HARD AS WE ARE BECAUSE THE CLIMATE IS VERY DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT WAS IN 2017. AND I THINK THAT IF THERE'S
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS AND AND MEET THE MOMENT FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE CONSTITUENTS, THEN THAT'S WHAT MY OFFICE IS LOOKING TO DO AND LISTEN AND
LEARN FROM OTHER NATIONAL LEADERS WHO HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS SUCCESSFULLY. AND SO BOSTON HAS A CAN DO ATTITUDE AND I'M JUST REALLY LOOKING TO JOIN OTHER FOLKS WHO
ARE PROGRESSIVE IN THIS. THAT'S THE OTHER WORD THAT WE LIKE TO REALLY AFFIRM HERE IS THAT WE'RE A VERY PROGRESSIVE CITY AND THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE IDEA THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE
RESIDENTS. SO JUST CURIOUS ABOUT ANY SAVINGS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAP INTO AND THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX REGARDING THIS INITIATIVE.
SO I THINK ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED IN MY TIME IN GOVERNMENT IS THAT ONCE YOU START START TAKING EXISTING PROGRAMS AND MERGING THEM TOGETHER, THAT TAKES A OF TIME
AND MONEY TO TAKE THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROGRAM AND THE STAFF THAT DO FOR EXAMPLE THE PUBLIC LIBRARY CARDS AND THEN MERGING THEM INTO OURS.
SO I THINK DEPENDING ON THE TIMELINE DEFINITELY YOU COULD SEE A SAVINGS BUT UPFRONT IT WILL TAKE TIME AND, MONEY AND I WOULD JUST ALSO SHARE COUNCILOR THAT ONE OF THE
PROJECTS THAT I WAS FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH CHIEF ON WAS REMOVING GENDER AND SEX FROM OUR MARRIAGE LICENSES AND WE DID A NUMBER OF FOCUS GROUPS
WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID TO US WAS YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WOULD FEEL BETTER BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE SO
INCLUSIVE OF PEOPLE'S IDENTITY AND SO WE WANTED THE FORUM TO SAY WHATEVER FOLKS WANTED IT TO SAY. BUT WHAT THEY SAID IS WE DON'T WANT IT TO SAY ANYTHING AT ALL
AND THAT WE WOULD BE WE WOULD FEEL THE SAFEST IF YOU JUST DIDN'T COLLECT INFORMATION FROM US. AND SO I DO THINK THAT THAT IS
ONE ASPECT TO CONSIDER. DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
COUNCILOR YOU'RE MUTED. COUNCILOR SEE I CAN FIX THESE BUTTONS. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT PAUL I DO
APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR RESPONSE AND THEN I'M JUST CURIOUS AS WE CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE THESE CONVERSATIONS YOU ARE MENTIONING TIME AND MONEY
BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE AND PEOPLE POWER. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT'LL COST US MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THIS I 7
MILLION AND THAT INCLUDES STAFF SOFTWARE I MEAN BECAUSE DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE SOFTWARE TO MAKE OUR IDS AS MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES WE HAVE OUR ID CARD
SO AM I OVERSIMPLIFYING IT? I MEAN I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS ON TO SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A CITY ID THAT WE HAVE TO WEAR AND IT HAS IT
GIVES US ACCESS, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE ALREADY HAVE APPARATUSES LIKE THAT ALREADY IN THE SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXISTING
SOFTWARES THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING WHAT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE I, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE INS
AND OUTS OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IT'S ID PRINTER BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS DEFINITELY THE SOFTWARE AND THE HARDWARE EXISTS BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROCURE A LOT MORE OF IT AND WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
WORKED FOR THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES. SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PRINTERS IN THE REGISTRY BUT THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE COPY CENTER
DOWNSTAIRS, RIGHT? IT'S JUST JUST BECAUSE WE CAN PRINT THE SAME THINGS THAT THE COPY CENTER DOES DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD OR THAT WE DO.
SO I THINK THAT THE CITY IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER MUNICIPAL IDEA THAT WE CREATIVE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF SECURITY AND FEATURES THAN
TWO BADGES THAT WE CURRENTLY PRINT IN CITY HALL. SO I WOULD JUST I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT WE HAD THE EQUIPMENT IS IS ACTUALLY VERY DIFFERENT AND
THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SECOND PANEL SO WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSPIRATION AND A MORE HOPEFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO BECAUSE THIS FEELS A BIT KIND OF LIKE
SOMBER AND LIKE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING HERE. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM NATIONAL WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS WAY BEFORE US EVEN CONSIDERING IT. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT VERY
HOPEFUL AND INSPIRING CONVERSATION THAT WE'LL HAVE WITH NATIONAL FOLKS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MEJIA. I'M JUST GOING TO ASK IF ANY
OF MY COLLEAGUES IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS CONSTABLE ELEANOR WEBER THANK THOSE WHO ARE ON IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS I COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU'LL HAVE 5 MINUTES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE CITY REGISTRAR. SO SO IS THIS SOMETHING THE
COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS IS NOT PROVIDING SUCH AS AN ID THAT MAKES IT CRITICAL THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON PROVIDE AN I.D.?
WHAT WHAT IS WHAT IS THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS NOT PROVIDING THAT MAKES IT NECESSARY FOR US TO TO HAVE A MUNICIPAL ID AND HAVING SAID
THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS IS ALSO A VERY PROGRESSIVE GOVERNMENT UNDER UNDER UNDER GOVERNOR HEALEY.
SO JUST JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS MIGHT BE. THANK YOU COUNCILOR. I THINK THAT SOME OF THE
FEATURES THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE A CLOSER INTEGRATION WITH CITY SERVICES LIKE THE LIBRARY OR TI
CARD. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY THE STATE ID DOESN'T ALLOW IT, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS.
I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THE IDEA AND I WOULD DEFER TO THE SPONSOR AS WELL ON THIS BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO REPLICATE SOME OF WHAT THE
STATE DOES GET YOU IN THE MUNICIPAL I.D. NOT AS MUCH AS IS THERE A GAP IN WHAT THE STATE ID PROVIDES. SO FOR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES
ANOTHER VULNERABLE POPULATIONS CHIEF TO SET THAT SOUND RIGHT? YEAH, I WOULD SAY PEOPLE WITHOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS WHO DON'T WANT WHO DON'T WANT TO OR
CANNOT GET A DRIVER'S LICENSE WE HAVE PLENTY OF EXAMPLES WITHIN OUR STATE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO THERE'S AN OLDER THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO THAT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO
DRIVE AND THE PERSON IS IN HER FIFTIES RIGHT. SO NOW I HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE IN ORDER TO GET SOME FORM OF STATE ID SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF OF WHAT THE GAP HERE IS
. OKAY. SO IF WE GIVE SOMEONE AND I IF
SOMEONE GETS A CITY I.D.. ARE WE IN COMPLIANT COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL
GUIDELINES ABOUT ABOUT PROVIDING ID TO SOMEONE IN THE VERIFICATION PROCESS IS IS THERE ANY CHALLENGES THAT THAT
COULD POSSIBLY COME UP? WELL, I FEEL LIKE YOU'LL DEFINITELY HAVE MORE OF THE REGULATIONS LAWS ANSWER HERE BUT THERE ARE MANY
CONSIDERATIONS FOR US TO THINK ABOUT SUCH AS YOU KNOW, TO THE COUNSELOR'S POINT EARLIER IF THERE'S JUST BECAUSE A MUNICIPALITY WORKS AND BOSTON
DOES IT MAY NOT MEAN THAT IT WORKS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF BOSTON AND SO VERY LIKE HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND THE THE IMPACT OF AN
I.D. BUT WE CAN'T IMAGINE OTHER ISSUES BUT ALSO I'M UNAWARE THAT THIS WOULD CONTRAVENE ANY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW. OKAY.
OKAY. SO SO THIS I.D. WOULD BE LEGAL IN THE EYES OF THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE TO
SAY? I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING PREVENTS US FROM ISSUING THIS LICENSE IN STATE OR FEDERAL LAW. OKAY.
SO IT WOULD BE WOULD BE A VALID IT WOULD BE A VALID ID IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE FEDERAL
BUILDING TO ACCESS A MEETING OR SERVICES SAY AT THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET WHERE I GO FREQUENTLY AT THE DMV. DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS
OF THE VA ADMINISTRATION IS THERE. THEY THEY ASKED FOR ID BUT SO YOU COULD YOU COULD USE YOUR MUNICIPAL ID AND A FEDERAL
BUILDING BASICALLY. SO COUNSELOR I'M SORRY LET ME JUST CLARIFY I THINK THAT NOTHING PREVENTS US FROM ISSUING THIS I.D. WHETHER OR NOT OTHER FOLKS WILL ACCEPT IT .
WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WHETHER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD ACCEPT THIS I.D.. FOR EXAMPLE, I BECAUSE OF THE
REAL I.D. REQUIREMENTS BUT I DON'T THINK THAT A MUNICIPAL ID ,FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD ALLOW YOU TO FLY. OH, OKAY. ESPECIALLY THINKING OF LIKE THE
REAL I.D. COMPLIANCE AND EXPECTATIONS THAT THIS WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE IN THE SAME BASE AS THAT. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
I, I WENT OVER TO THE HAYMARKET REGISTRY THE OTHER DAY. I UNEMPLOYMENT TO GET THE REAL I.D. THEY'RE GOING TO MAIL THAT BACK TO ME IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. BUT I GOT I GET SO BACK TO THEM
AND THAT WAS MY POINT WAS WHAT WOULD A A MUNICIPAL I.D. ALLOW YOU TO FLY GOING INTO LOGAN AIRPORT?
YOU KNOW, SO THE ANSWER WOULD BE WOULD BE PROBABLY NO. I GUESS RIGHT BACKWARD. OKAY. MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR
GIVING ME AN EXTRA MINUTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FLYNN, I SEEING NO HANDS RAISED BY COUNCILOR WEBER
,I THINK I WILL TRANSITION BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SO PATIENT . OUR COLLEAGUES FROM VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES ALL CAPS ON MY HAND. YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST REITERATE THIS SO THOSE WHO ARE TUNING IN IS THAT OUR HOPE IS THAT THIS BENEFICIAL ID IS FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS BASIC
FUNCTIONS LIKE BANKING YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE LIKE ACCESS TO THINGS THAT NORMALLY ON THE CITY LEVEL THAT
WE CAN CONTROL AND ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS FROM SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES LIKE BANKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO IT WOULD BE MORE FOR PEOPLE
TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO BASIC CITY FUNCTIONS AND NEEDS. SO I WANTED TO LET COUNCILOR FLYNN KNOW THAT I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN IDEA THAT
FOLKS CAN USE TO TRAVEL. SO AND I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT NOW THERE'S THE REAL ID THAT'S THE ONLY ID THAT YOU CAN USE TO
TRAVEL BASED ON WHAT THAT LAW CAME INTO EFFECT IN MAY. SO YEAH, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE SORT OF AND IF ANYONE'S UNCLEAR IT'S NOT ABOUT TRAVEL IT'S REALLY ABOUT
JUST BASIC FUNCTIONS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND JUST UNDERSCORE THAT AND IT'S ALSO NOT A STANDARD DRIVERS LICENSE.
YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND GET A CLASS D AROUND FROM FROM THE R&D. OKAY. I THINK WE WILL TRANSITION. I WANT TO THANK OUR CITY REGISTRAR AND OUR CHIEF OF EQUITY FOR BEING HERE AND ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS.
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIRELESS EFFORTS TO MAKE A MORE EQUITABLE AND JUST CITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS IN THE WORK YOU'VE DONE THUS FAR. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTNERSHIP IN ALL OF THIS AND
JUST THANK YOU. IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON PLEASE DO. I WILL DO THAT BEFORE I LEAVE AS IT I WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO LISTEN AS ADMINISTRATION BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO FOLLOW UP
LATER BECAUSE A QUESTION THAT I AM STILL HOLDING ON TO IS LIKE WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC GAPS IN SERVICES RIGHT NOW THAT RESIDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING BECAUSE WE WANT TO ADDRESS THEM WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH THIS
PROCESS OR A DIFFERENT PROCESS. SO DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE THAT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL GO TO THE EXPERT PANEL WE
HAVE BROOKE AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAY YOUR FIRST OR LAST NAMES INCORRECTLY. WE HAVE BROOKE SIMONE, OUR STAFF ATTORNEY FOR THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND VALENCIA FOR THE CITY CLERK
OF THE CITY OF CHICAGO. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, CITY CLERK AND LOUISE FUENTES WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF CHICAGO CITY AID AND JANET VELASCO, DIRECTOR
OF PHILADELPHIA CITY ID AND KHALEDA LLOYD, DIRECTOR OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUITY. I LIKE THAT TITLE FROM THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS.
I'M COUNCILOR MEJIA. DID YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE OF WHO GOES FIRST IF WE SAW THE CITY CLERK ON I THINK WE'D LOVE TO HAVE HER GO FIRST. I DEFER TO YOU. MADAM CHAIR IS IN ATLANTA IS
STILL WITH US. THE CITY CLERK OF CHICAGO. YEAH, ACTUALLY SHE HAD THE JUMP OFF AT 945 UNFORTUNATELY. BUT I'M HERE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT.
EXCELLENT. WHY DON'T WE START WITH YOU WITH AND THEN WE'LL GO TO END? JEANETTE, I APOLOGIZE AGAIN IF I'M SEEING YOUR NAME INCORRECTLY FROM PHILADELPHIA
THEN WE'LL GO TO NEW ORLEANS AND THEN CIRCLE BACK HERE AT HOME WITH THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS. YEAH.
SO LISTENING TO SOME OF YOUR SO YOUR TESTIMONY FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON THIS PANEL. I HOPE THAT THE INFORMATION I CAN PROVIDE WILL HELP YOU GUYS
IN, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS THING THROUGH AND YOU KNOW, BRINGING IT ON. I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. IT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT DOES HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE
HERE IN CHICAGO THE WAY THAT WE ADMINISTER IT IS WE WORK WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITY GROUPS AND WE ALSO WORK WITH A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICES, OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS, STATE DEPARTMENTS, COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND WE GO OUT AND WE DO A MOBILE ID AND SO AND THE WAY WE DO THIS IS WE
ONLY HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ON STAFF IN THE OFFICE THAT ACTUALLY HELP ADMINISTER THIS BUT WE DO HAVE SOME CONTRACTED DELEGATE AGENCIES AND THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY ON TWO NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP US ADMINISTER THE IDEA THEY'RE CONTRACTED BY THE CITY. THEY GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE PAY THEM AND THEY SUPPLY STAFF THAT CAN DO PRETTY
MUCH ALL THE FUNCTIONS THAT ANYONE IN THE OFFICE CAN DO REGARDING THE CITY I.D. WE DO HAVE WE DO INCORPORATE A
LIBRARY CARD INTO OUR WE ALSO HAVE A CITY CHICAGO CITY VENTURE CARD WHICH IS A TRANSIT CARD THAT ANYONE CAN MOVE MONEY INTO AND AND TAKE THE AND TAKE
THE TRAIN OR THE BUS. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS IS WHAT THE I.D. LOOKS LIKE WITH NOTHING ON IT SO IT'S BLANK ON THE FRONT BUT IN THE BACK IT'S ACTUALLY PRINTED ON A
VENTURE CARD. SO WE PURCHASE THAT FROM THE CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND THEN IT IS ALSO A LIBRARY CARD AS YOU MENTIONED. JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT AS
WELL. SO THIS IS MY THE TOP NUMBER THEY ARE SEE IT SORRY IT'S A LITTLE BLURRY BUT THE TOP NUMBER IS A LIBRARY CARD NUMBER AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AS PART
OF THE I.D. A PRESCRIPTION DISCOUNT PROGRAM THAT'S VERY POPULAR WITH SENIORS ARE VERY, VERY POPULAR WITH THE UNHOUSED WITH THE UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY .
AND THAT PROGRAM WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS. IT WAS IT WAS A NON IT'S A CONTRACT THAT THE NATIONAL CONTRACT AND SO WE HAVE THOSE
SERVICES AS WELL AND WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO HELP OFFER SOME DISCOUNTS TO SOME OF OUR CARDHOLDERS. AND SO WE HAVE YOU KNOW, SOME
OF THE PROFESSIONAL TEAMS WE HAVE OR THE CHICAGO FIRES, THE MLS TEAM WE HAVE A WNBA TEAM THE CHICAGO SKY IS PART OF OUR GROUP. WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF THEATER THE GOODMAN THEATER
HERE IN CHICAGO, A BIG OFF-BROADWAY THEATER. WE HAVE NUMEROUS SMALL BUSINESSES, LOCAL BUSINESSES, ANYTHING FROM TIRE SHOPS, COFFEE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, THINGS OF THAT SORT. AND SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS THESE
ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO HERE TO TO HELP BRING THE BENEFITS OF THE IDEA UP AND SO THAT MORE PEOPLE WANT TO OBTAIN THE ITEM ON OUR ID IS
COMPLETELY FREE AND SO WE WE DO NOT COLLECT ANY MONEY FOR THIS I.D. AND OUR OPERATING BUDGET
AT LEAST LAST YEAR WAS $1.266735 MILLION OR $1,266,735. SO FAR WE HAVE PRINTED OVER
150,000 IDS AND YEAH, WE WOULD KEEP YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING I KNOW INFORMATION IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
WE DO NOT KEEP ANY INFORMATION ON WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE USE A STATE STATUTE TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT. SO WE GO OUT AND WE PRINT THESE FOR PEOPLE AND THEN ONCE THEY
LEAVE THE EVENT AND WE ASK THEM OUT OF OUR OUR COMPUTER SCREEN, THEIR INFORMATION IS THE LONGER THEY'RE AND WE DID THIS BECAUSE INITIALLY WHEN THIS IDEA WAS CREATED WE KNEW THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH A LOT
OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND AT THE TIME THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION WAS WAS NOT ONE THAT WAS TOO FRIENDLY TO INDIVIDUALS FROM THOSE POPULATIONS. AND SO WE DECIDED TO ADMINISTER
THE IDEA THAT THAT WAY NOW OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THE IDEA HAS GROWN TO A POINT WHERE YOU KNOW, WE WE WERE GOING TO EVENTS AND EVENTS
WERE SO OVER OVER POPULATED THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR US TO TO TO REALLY ADMINISTER THE I.D. IN THAT WAY. AND SO WE DECIDED THAT HAVING AN ONLINE APPOINTMENT SYSTEM
WOULD HELP. SO WE DID THAT FIRST AND THAT HAS SHOWN TO TO REALLY HELP WITH THAT. BUT THEN WE ALSO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS
ESPECIALLY FROM THE YOU KNOW, THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY ARE WORKING PARENTS AND THEN ALSO WITH SENIORS THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF ACCESS BECAUSE ONE THE
EVENTS CAME AT A TIME WHERE MAYBE PEOPLE WERE WORKING ON BUT ALSO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE YOU KNOW, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET TO THE EVENTS AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW,
THE LINES WERE LONG AT THE TIME AND SO WE DECIDED TO CREATE AN ONLINE PLATFORM AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO PAUSE AN IMPACTFUL BECAUSE OF INFORMATION ISSUES ON THAT I
CAN I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE BUT AT THE MOMENT WE'RE FUNCTIONING WITH AN ONLINE APPOINTMENT SYSTEM AND WE GO OUT AND DO EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITIES AND
SO WE BRING YOU BRING THE SERVICE OUT TO THEM AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PRINT PRETTY GOOD YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF IDS AT THESE EVENTS WE TEND TO DO BETWEEN THREE AND 4 HOURS
LONG. I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP EVERYONE'S TIME BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE AND
TO EDUCATE US ON ON EVERYTHING THAT CHICAGO IS DOING. IT'S IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE SO I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. NEXT UP WE'LL HAVE ANJANETTE VELASCO, THE DIRECTOR OF THE PHILADELPHIA CITY ID YOU HAVE
THE FOUR. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. CONSULTATION LOUIJEUNE AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS DANIEL VELASCO AND I
SERVE AS DIRECTOR OF THE MUNICIPAL I.D. IN THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY TODAY IN SUPPORT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
TO CREATE MUNICIPAL I.D. INFORMATION AND BOSTON SAVES THE LANDFILL PHILADELPHIA THE MUNICIPAL I.D. PROGRAM HAS
BECOME A VITAL TOOL FOR BUILDING TRUST BETWEEN CITY GOVERNMENT AND RESIDENTS. THE LCD IS A HOW WE CALL CARD
REALIZED IN THE FUTURE AND SECURE GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PHILADELPHIA RESIDENTS REGARDLESS RACE, ETHNICITY,
GENDER IDENTITY, IMMIGRATION STYLES AND CULTURAL EDUCATIONAL OR HOUSING SITUATION. OUR TEAM HAS SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW
DHL CREDIT CARD KING IS TRAINING, INCLUSION AND BELONGING SPAN ACCESS TO CITY SERVICE, IMPROVE INTERACTION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
PROMOTE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. THERE ARE SOME KEYS THAT WE LEARN FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN PHILADELPHIA THAT INCLUDE ACCESS TO CITY SERVICE MORE
THAN 92,000 RESIDENTS WHO PREVIOUSLY STRUGGLE TO ACCESS A LIBRARY OR PARTICIPATE IN PROGRAMS AT RECREATION CENTERS
OR OTHER CITY SERVICES ARE NOW ABLE TO DO EASY PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRUST RESIDENT FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE FOR ENGAGING WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CITY DEPARTMENTS AND HELPING TO BUILD STRONGER AND SAFER COMMUNITIES ECONOMIC AND CULTURE BENEFITS THE CREDIT
CARD IS WIDELY SUPPORTED BY CIVIL SERVICE CITY FUNDED PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS CONTRIBUTING TO LOCAL ECONOMIES AND SOCIETIES.
PRIDE IS A DIGNITY AND LEARNING FOR RESIDENTS WHO PREVIOUS THE LAG TO OBTAIN A GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID SUCH AS SENIORS,
YOUTH RETURNING PRESIDENTS, LGBTQ RESIDENTS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, MIGRANT FAMILIES THE CARD REPRESENTS THE
CIVILITY, DIGNITY AND SENSE OF WELCOMING TO ISSUED WITNESSING. WHILE THESE OUTCOMES ARE MEANINGFUL, I ALSO WANT TO
CANDID ABOUT CHALLENGES LAUNCHING AND SUSTAINING AND WE NEED TO BUT I PROGRAM REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT OF RESOURCES PARTICULARLY LEGAL STAFFING AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH
CAPACITIES. THE LAUNCH PHASE IN PHILADELPHIA REQUIRED DEEP COLLABORATION ACROSS THE CITY AGENCY IS STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND ONGOING FUND
FUNDING COMMITMENTS. THIS INVESTMENTS WERE ESSENTIAL FOR ENSURING THE PROGRAM'S LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND CREDIBILITY. WE LEARNED SOME LESSONS FROM
PHILADELPHIA LAUNCH A STAFFING CAPACITY DEDICATED STAFFING WERE NEED NOT ONLY TO ISSUING ID BUT ALSO TO MANAGE COMMUNITY
OUTREACH, MULTILINGUAL COMMUNICATION AND INTER AGENCY COORDINATION, LEGAL
INFRASTRUCTURE AND EARLY ONGOING LEGAL REVIEW WAS CRITICAL TO ENSURE THAT OUR PROTECTION I HEAR MANY
OF COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DATA PROTECTION, PROJECT PRIVACY
STANDARDS AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND FEDERAL LAW COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP TRUST. WE WILL COMMUNICATE WAS BUILT THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH
LEGAL AID GROUPS IS COOL ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS AND SAVE THE EATING FISH WHICH WAS CRUCIAL FOR BUILDING TRUST IN
REACHING RESIDENTS SUCCESSFULLY . OUR OUTREACH TEAM WERE WORKING VERY HARD AND WE STILL WORKING TO TRY TO GET MORE RESIDENTS TO
DO GETTING A LEGAL TEAM, OBTAINING THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS CONSIDERABLE EFFORT WAS REQUIRED TO EDUCATE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE CARD
BENEFITS. THIS INCLUDES MULTILINGUAL CAMPAIGNS AND ONGOING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND OUR STAFF WERE IN
EVERY SINGLE EVENT A PRESIDENTIAL AND ALSO VIRTUAL TO EDUCATE THEIR RESIDENTS AND
BALTIMORE COMMUNITIES TO HOW TO OBTAIN THAT A CITY AND WHAT IS A DIFFERENT WE DARE I STATED IN
THE MUNICIPALITY AND THAT WAS VERY POWERFUL WHEN WE ARE DOING THOSE EDUCATION BASED ON PHILADELPHIA'S APPEARANCE I
ENCOURAGE THOSE ON CITY COUNCIL TO BE WAY TO ASSESS OPPORTUNITIES OF MUNICIPAL PROGRAMS AS WELL AS THE REAL RESOURCES DEMANDS WHETHER THAT
THEY ENTAIL THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER THE MUNICIPALITY WORKS AND REALLY THAT THAT WORKS BUT WHAT THEY RAISED AND NECESSARY
COMMUNITY OF STAFFING INFRASTRUCTURE OR LEGAL CAPACITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WITH TEAM FROM THE LUNCH
THEY WERE ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE EVERYTHING WE FOR BEFORE THE LAUNCH OF THE PROGRAM. I COMMEND THE COUNCIL FOR ITS LEADERSHIP AMBITION AND
CONSIDERING THE ORDINANCE WHICH BY PROTOCOL CAN BE INVALUABLE BREACH WITH THE CITY WILL REMAIN IN COMMUNITY BUT ITS SUCCESS WILL DEPEND ON ENSURING THE RIGHT RESOURCES AND A
STRUCTURE I PLACE. THANK YOU ON THE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
SO I'M VACCINATED AND A LOT TO LEARN FROM PHILADELPHIA. NEXT UP WE'LL HAVE CARLITO LLOYD, THE DIRECTOR OF MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUITY FROM THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. HI. GOOD MORNING AND MAYBE AFTERNOON FOR YOU ALL. MAYBE NOT YET. MY NAME IS CARLITO LORD. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS EQUITY IN NEW ORLEANS WHERE WE HAVE HOUSED OUR CRESCENT CITY ID PROGRAM. AND SO I SIT ON THE SHOULDERS
OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE WHERE I RUSH THEM IN A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TO LEARN. AND SO I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR HAVING A PANEL SUCH AS THIS TO LEARN KIND OF THE INS AND OUTS .
IT MAY NOT END HERE JUST SO YOU KNOW OF JUST FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BUT I'M PROBABLY THE CLOSEST TO REALLY FIGURING OUT WHETHER WHAT IS THIS THING
HOW DO WE DO IT, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS IT DOES COST MONEY AND SO YOU DO HAVE TO ALLOCATE MONEY FOR IT BUT IT ALSO IS A
REALLY GREAT BENEFIT FOR COMMUNITY. WE LAUNCHED LAST WEEK TO THE PUBLIC AND SO THAT WE'RE FRESH OUT OF BLOCKS HERE WE STARTED
OFF WITH OUR CITY EMPLOYEES IN ORDER TO GARNER INTEREST AND ALSO GET SOME KINKS OUT RIGHT IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ISSUE THE IDS.
TECHNOLOGY IS TECHNOLOGY AND IT IS HEAVILY TECHNOLOGY TYPE OF PROGRAM. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO ADD VALUE TO MAYBE SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD BEFORE SINCE I WAS ON EARLIER AND NOT TO
DUPLICATE MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME MUCH LONGER THAN NEW ORLEANS. ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY IS WE HAVE PRIDE OUR PROGRAM TO BE
AN ID FOR ALL AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT IS AN ID THAT CAN BENEFIT EVERYBODY. WE WANT IT TO BE A WIN WIN FOR OUR CITY RESIDENTS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PRIDE IN BEING
FROM NEW ORLEANS LIKE PROBABLY ANY OTHER CITY. RIGHT. AND SO PART OF THAT IS HOW CAN THIS BE AN ID FOR ALL? AND SO THE WAY WE MADE IT THAT WAY WAS ALSO GLEANING ON OUR
OTHER COLLEAGUES AT OTHER SISTER CITIES WHICH WAS HOW IT CAN BE LIKE YOUR LIBRARY CARD. SO YOUR LIBRARY CARD IS ALSO YOUR NORD CARD WHICH IS A
RECREATION RECREATION FACILITY HERE THE CITY AND IT ALSO SERVES AS DISCOUNTS FOR DIFFERENT BUSINESSES ACROSS THE CITY AND SO THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY, RIGHT?
SO YOU MAY NOT OR YOU MAY NOT NEED AN ID BUT HEY, WHY NOT A CARD THAT'S A THREE IN ONE YOU MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, USE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SERVICES BUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO ENHANCE ACCESS TO THOSE
SERVICES BECAUSE NOW IT'S IT'S A CARD THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. BUT THEN THE OTHER PART IS REALLY THE BUSINESSES THE BUSINESSES ARE KIND OF THE LINCHPIN, IF YOU WILL AND IT'S
A WIN WIN. AND SO SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND SO WE HAVE CREATED OUR PROGRAM SURROUNDED ON OUR ID FOR ALL EVERYONE
SHOULD GET THEIR ID AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. SO THAT'S ONE PART ON THE OTHER PART IS THAT IT'S FOR YOUTH AS WELL AND SO AGES TEN AND UP TO
GET AN I.D. AND THAT ALSO JUST HELPS WITH YOUTH BEING ABLE TO INTERACT WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS JUST INTERACT IN GENERAL AND WE ALSO DID SOME ADDED THINGS LIKE
CREATE BEING ABLE TO PUT HEALTH ALERTS ON YOUR CARD SO BEING ABLE TO PUT OUR IF A CHILD HAS AUTISM AND BEING ABLE TO WRITE THAT ON THE CARD AND SO THAT IF ANYONE'S INTERACTING WITH A CHILD THAT COULD BE SOMETHING
THAT THEY CAN REALIZE PARENTS HAVE APPRECIATED THAT WE ALSO HAVE AN EMERGENCY CONTACT ON IT. SO PARENTS HAVE APPRECIATED THAT ADULTS HAVE USED IT TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY CONTACT ON MY
CAR. RIGHT. IF YOU IF I NEED SOMETHING TO CALL MY MOM. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVE ADDED THOSE KIND OF ADDED BENEFITS THAT KIND
OF A NORMAL ID IF YOU WILL LIKE A STATE ID WOULD NOT PROVIDE. AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THOSE ADDED BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE ADDED TO HIM. WE WOULD NOT DO THIS ON OUR OWN. AND SO I THINK I HEARD YOU ALL
SAYING YOU HAVE INTERNAL SYSTEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU. WE PROCURED AND WE PUT OUT AN RFP TO PROCURE A COMPANY IN ORDER TO HELP US DEVELOP A
PROGRAM AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY AND TO GIVE US THE SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO PRINT IDS. IT IS DIFFERENT THAN PRINTING
YOUR ACTUAL MUNICIPAL CITY ID IT'S NOT THE SAME. YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY FUNCTIONING AS LIKE A MINI DMV AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIFIC SOFTWARE
AS WELL AS PRINTERS AND CAPABILITIES FOR THAT. BUT I THINK THE OTHER LAYER I WILL SAY IS NEW ORLEANS IS A LITTLE BIT LESS YOU KNOW,
BOSTON IS LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE DOUBLE OR A LITTLE BIT LESS DOUBLE THAN THE POPULATION OF NEW ORLEANS AND WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR OUR COLLEAGUES IN
PHILADELPHIA AND IN CHICAGO. AND SO THE WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE DEMAND IS REAL. PEOPLE NEED THIS. PEOPLE WANT THIS ESPECIALLY IF YOU MARKET IT AND COMMUNICATE
IT RIGHT. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A STAFF OF THREE AND WE HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER AND TWO SPECIALISTS WHO ARE ABLE TO ISSUE IDS ON THREE DIFFERENT
SETS OF EQUIPMENT AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH IN THE WEEK THAT WE HAVE WATCHED OF COURSE IS VERY FRESH, IT'S VERY NEW AND SO THAT MAY TAPER OFF. BUT WE DID HAVE A GOAL AND WE
DO HAVE A GOAL OF ISSUING 10,000 IDS IN THE FIRST YEAR. AND SO I WILL SAY THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF IN ORDER TO MEET THAT NEED THAT IT WILL
BE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTS APPRECIATE. RIGHT. AND WHAT I WILL ALSO SAY IS THIS WAS ROOTED IN COMMUNITY AND THIS WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT OUR MAYOR WANTED TO GET ACROSS
THE FINISH LINE BUT IT WAS ROOTED IN THE FACT THAT COMMUNITY AGREED AND WANTED IT . AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
WE DO THIS BY MOBILE POP UPS AND SO WE HAVE MOBILE POP UPS ALL ACROSS THE CITY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO DIFFERENT PLACES IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LIBRARY, OUR NORTH FACILITIES
AS WELL AS DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE APPOINTMENTS IN OUR OFFICE AND SO AGAIN WHERE WE CAN AND SO THAT THAT MIGHT CHANGE OVER THE
COURSE OF THE PROGRAM BUT SO FAR THAT'S KIND OF OUR MODEL AND OUR OPERATIONS AND YEAH AND SO I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR THINKING ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY TANGIBLE BENEFIT THAT RESIDENTS CAN SEE AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS PROGRAM CAN BE REALLY SUCCESSFUL OVERALL AND
BENEFICIAL ULTIMATELY. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT FEEL HELPFUL BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WAS ADDED VALUE TO TO MY COLLEAGUES. WELL ALSO WE DON'T RETAIN ANY
INFORMATION AND SO NO INFORMATION THAT IS GIVEN WE HAVE AN APPLICATION, WE GIVE THE APPLICATION BACK, YOU SEE THE DOCUMENTS WE GIVE THE DOCUMENTS BACK WE HAD WE DO
HAVE AN OPT IN FEATURE WHERE IF YOU WANTED TO OPT IN YOU CAN RETAIN YOUR INFORMATION BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED WITH COMMUNITY OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION THEY WERE LIKE THEY MIGHT LOSE IT
THE NEXT DAY AND SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE IT THE NEXT DAY IF YOU DON'T RETAIN YOUR INFORMATION YOU HAVE TO SHOW US ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ALL OVER AGAIN. AND SO PART OF THAT WAS FOR PURPOSES OF REPLACEMENT IF
PEOPLE NEEDED TO REPLACE IT. SO WE DO HAVE AN OPT IN IF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THEIR INFORMATION BUT WE ENCOURAGE THOSE WE'RE ENCOURAGING THAT
THAT'S NOT THE CASE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES GOING FORWARD. BUT YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH CARLITOS VERY INFORMATIVE AND I WILL ASK OUR
COLLEAGUES FROM VARIOUS CITIES AND STATES TO STAY ON BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I CERTAINLY HAVE QUESTIONS BUT BEFORE THAT OUR LAST EXPERT TESTIMONY IS GOING TO COME FROM A LARGE COMMITTEE
FROM CIVIL RIGHTS BROOKE SIMONE WHO IS A STATE ATTORNEY FOR CARE BEFORE HELLO. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M BROOKE SIMON. I'M A STAFF ATTORNEY WITH LAWYERS FOR CIVIL RIGHTS HERE
IN BOSTON. LCR IS A IS A NONPROFIT LEGAL ORGANIZATION WHOSE MISSION PRIMARILY FOCUSES ON PROTECTING AND ADVANCING THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AND IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
LCR HAS SUPPORTED THE CREATION OF A BOSTON MUNICIPAL ID SINCE THE CITY FIRST EXPLORED THIS BACK IN WAS AROUND 2015 1617
AND THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM THAT HAVE DEFENDED A MUNICIPAL ID PROGRAM IN OTHER CITIES FROM LEGAL CHALLENGE SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCE AND STRONG ADVOCACY IN THIS AREA AND WE
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE MUNICIPAL ID PROGRAM HERE IN BOSTON PARTICULARLY AS IT WOULD HAVE REALLY GREAT BENEFITS FOR THE MEMBERS OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR AS A
FEW OTHER FOLKS MENTIONED THE WORK IN FAMILY MOBILITY ACT WENT INTO EFFECT A FEW YEARS AGO AND THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTS WITHOUT LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES TO APPLY FOR A
STANDARD DRIVER'S LICENSE HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS. AND CERTAINLY THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLY WORTHWHILE AND SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. THERE ARE STILL MANY BARRIERS FOR A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS IN OUR
COMMUNITY WHICH OTHERS HAVE TOUCHED ON AS WELL. SO I'LL JUST REITERATE A FEW OF THEM THAT THAT PROCESS COSTS A MINIMUM OF $115 WHICH IS VERY
EXPENSIVE. ALSO THERE ARE MANY IMMIGRANTS WHO DON'T DRIVE OR HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR AND FOR THOSE THAT DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME OFF FROM WORK TO TAKE THE PERMIT TEST AND THE ROAD TEST TO
CONTINUALLY GO TO THE RMV MULTIPLE TIMES AND THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS AND SO LCR IS POSITION IS THAT THE CITY CAN HARNESS THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE W FEMA ON THE STATE LEVEL AND NOW CREATE A MUNICIPAL ID THAT IS MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE AND WE BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S FREE.
AS THE CITY REGISTRAR MENTIONED, HE SEES FOLKS FOR WHOM A $14 COST FOR A BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS A BARRIER AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CITIES
THAT ARE CHARGING AROUND $10. BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WOULD BE A BARRIER FOR FOR A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING IT FOR FREE AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT AND IMPORTANT TO GIVE ID TO AS MANY BOSTONIANS AS POSSIBLE BUT PARTICULARLY FOR IMMIGRANTS THERE ARE MANY
WHO ONLY HAVE ID FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AND SO HAVING AN I.D. THAT'S ISSUED FROM AN ENTITY IN THE US WILL REALLY PROVIDE A SENSE OF BELONGING
AND INCLUSION AND A REAL FEELING THAT THEY ARE FULL PARTICIPANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHICH THEY ARE. ADDITIONALLY, IN THE EVENT OF A STOP OR AN ENCOUNTER WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT IT CAN PROVIDE A SENSE OF COMFORT AND SAFETY TO AGAIN HAVE THAT ID ISSUE THAT SAYS HEY, I'M A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THEN I'LL ALSO ADD THAT THE ID AND THE
RESOURCES THAT IT OPENS UP WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, RESOURCES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE CITY BUT ALSO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED LIKE BEING ABLE TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT OR APPLY
FOR A JOB OR APPLY FOR A LEASE ALL OF THOSE THINGS MAY ALSO BE HELPFUL TO ESTABLISH COMMUNITY TIES IN THE EVENT OF A LEGAL PROCEEDING SO IN INSTANCES
OF ASYLUM OR CANCELLATION OF REMOVAL OR A NATURALIZATION PROCEEDING, THE GOVERNMENT PLACES A BIG EMPHASIS ON AN APPLICANT'S GOOD MORAL CHARACTER AND THAT CAN
DEMONSTRATED THROUGH SUSTAINED COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND TIES AND MAY ALSO BE RELEVANT IN CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS SUCH AS A HEARING FOR PRETRIAL RELEASE OR BOND OR SENTENCING HEARING.
AND SO THIS THIS IDEA WOULD HAVE SUCH GREAT BENEFITS FOR ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THOSE OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. BUT AS THE CITY MOVES FORWARD,
LCR WANTS TO CALL ATTENTION TO A FEW AREAS IN PARTICULAR THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE A FOCUS. FIRST IS THAT THE CITY SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO ENSURE THAT THE ID IS NOT REFERRED TO
NEGATIVELY AS AN IMMIGRANT ID IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW PANELISTS FROM NEW ORLEANS THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IT AS AN ID FOR ALL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE HERE AND
THIS CAN BE DONE THROUGH A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN EXCUSE ME INFORMING BOSTONIANS THAT THE APPLICATION DOES NOT ASK FOR IMMIGRATION AND THAT THE ID IS AVAILABLE
FOR EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE OTHER FORMS OF ID. I KNOW MYSELF HAVE MULTIPLE FORMS OF ID IN MY WALLET AND IT CAN'T HURT TO HAVE ANOTHER THAT
WOULD AFFORD ME ACCESS TO BENEFITS LIKE YOU KNOW, MUSEUMS, CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS, DISCOUNTS AT LOCAL BUSINESSES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE CITY SHOULD AND
ENCOURAGE ALL BOSTONIANS TO GET THIS ID AND THE MORE PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS THAT HAVE THE ID THE LESS LIKELY IT'S TO BE STIGMATIZED FOR A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT GET THE ID THE STRONGER BOSTON IS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT AND THE MORE PROTECTED ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL BE LEGALLY LCR WANTS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS
PROGRAM IS LEGAL. IT DOES NOT VIOLATE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY OVER NATIONAL IMMIGRATION MATTERS AND THAT IS
SORT OF KNOWN AS LIKE FIELD PREEMPTION OVER THE FIELD OF IMMIGRATION. BUT THIS MUNICIPAL I.D. PROGRAM IS NOT REGULATING THE FIELD OF IMMIGRATION. AGAIN, IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL
RESIDENTS. IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT CONSIDERED AT ALL IN THE APPLICATION AND ADDITIONALLY JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT ANY STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUCH AS BOSTON HAS THE AUTHORITY AND
THE RESPONSIBILITY TO REGULATE AND PROTECT AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO ALL OF THEIR RESIDENTS. THESE IDEAS THAT I JUST MENTIONED HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED IN COURT.
THERE HAS ACTUALLY ONLY BEEN ONE LAWSUIT CHALLENGING A MUNICIPAL ID PROGRAM AS A AS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW BECAUSE IT'S PREEMPTED AND THAT
WAS IN 2008 AGAINST THE CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO AND THE COURT AFFIRMED THE CITY'S PROGRAMS FOR THE REASONS JUST EXPLAINED SO AGAIN, THE MORE THAT THE CITY EMPHASIZES THAT THIS IDEA
IS FOR EVERYONE AND THE MORE THAT PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS GET THIS IDEA, THE BETTER OFF ALL OF US ARE. AND THEN LASTLY WANT TO TURN TO SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED
BY A LOT OF OTHER PANELISTS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY WHICH IS ABOUT CONCERNS INVOLVING DATA PRIVACY. SO THERE ARE SOME RECENT CASES THAT SHOW SOME OF THE POTENTIAL
CHALLENGES THAT BOSTON MIGHT FACE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUED NEW YORK STATE EARLIER IN THE YEAR CHALLENGING ITS GREEN LIGHT LAW WHICH IS
SOMEWHAT OF AN OUT SOMEWHAT OF AN ANALOG TO OUR THE FMA IN THAT IT ALLOWS RESIDENTS WITHOUT LEGAL RESIDENCY STATUS TO GET DRIVER'S LICENSE LICENSES AND IT ALSO PREVENTS
FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES FROM ACCESSING DMV DATA WITHOUT A WARRANT SO THAT LAWSUIT IS STILL ONGOING. THE CITY OF NEW YORK FILED A MOTION TO DISMISS THAT CASE AND
THAT MOTION IS PENDING AND THEN ALSO IN CHICAGO, MY MY FELLOW PANELIST FROM CHICAGO HINTED THIS A LITTLE BIT BUT THEY RECENTLY HAD TO PAUSE THEIR
ONLINE APPLICATIONS FOR MUNICIPALITIES AND THAT IS BECAUSE A FEW MONTHS AGO I ISSUED A SUBPOENA TO CHICAGO'S MUNICIPAL ID OFFICE FOR APPLICANTS PERSONAL INFORMATION
. AND SO AT LEAST MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS THAT THE STATE OF ILLINOIS REQUIRES INFORMATION SUBMITTED ONLINE TO BE RETAINED. AND SO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT DATA DOESN'T BECOME ACCESSIBLE AND AVAILABLE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY'VE NOW PIVOTED TO AN IN-PERSON ONLY PROCESS. SO THESE ARE SOME POTENTIAL
CHALLENGES THAT BOSTON COULD FACE. WE AS A CITY ARE ALREADY FACING LEGAL ACTION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR OUR STATUS AS A SANCTUARY. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE
PREPARED FOR AN ATTACK TO THIS THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM IN PARTICULAR. LCR WE'RE HEARING FROM MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE REALLY HESITANT TO SHARE
INFORMATION WITH ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WITHOUT ASSURANCE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PROTECTED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO AGAIN THIS WAS DISCUSSED LITTLE BIT BEFORE BUT PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT
LANGUAGE IN SECTION FIVE OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE REGARDING CONFIDENTIALITY. I THINK THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR US AND OUR PARTNERS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY
NEEDS TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH APPLICANT'S INFORMATION, WHAT IS BEING RETAINED IF ANYTHING WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT. I KNOW THE CITY REGISTRAR SAID
THAT APPLICANT'S NAMES WOULD BE INFORMATION THAT'S RETAINED BUT I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT A WAY TO AVOID RETAINING ANYTHING
AT ALL. ALSO MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE THE CITY TO HAVE A PLAN FOR DEFENDING AGAINST ANY SORT OF SUBPOENA OR REQUEST OR LEGAL
ATTACK TO GET THAT INFORMATION UNDER FEDERAL LAW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN'T FORCE THE CITY TO PROVIDE ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR IMMIGRANT AND
ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES WITHOUT A VALID COURT ORDER OR A SUBPOENA. BUT AS WE SEE IN CHICAGO AND SOME OTHER PLACES, THERE ARE CITIES THAT ARE STANDING UP AND SAYING NO TO THOSE SUBPOENAS
RIGHT NOW AND SO LCR FEELS STRONGLY THAT THE CITY SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE A PLAN AND MAKE CLEAR WHAT THAT PLAN IS. AND THEN LASTLY, JUST MAKING
CLEAR WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS. I KNOW THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS WITH RESPECT TO PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION AND
PUBLIC SAFETY SO MAKING SURE THAT IN ANY SORT OF EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AS AS THE COUNCIL CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS THAT
THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ARE AT THE FOREFRONT AND ALSO JUST AGAIN REITERATING ALWAYS THAT THE APPLICATION DOES NOT ASK FOR IMMIGRATION STATUS THIS NONIMMIGRANT ID
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE AND ENCOURAGE FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOSTON COMMUNITY AND SO AS LONG AS THERE ARE APPROPRIATE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE BOSTON'S
MUNICIPAL ID PROGRAM WILL ALLOW A LOT MORE OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO FEEL AT HOME HERE AND THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT LCR SUPPORTS SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU AGAIN
FOR HAVING ME. WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THIS HAS BEEN SUCH AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS FOR ME AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BUT I'LL PASS IT OVER TO OUR LEAD SPONSOR COUNCILOR MEJIA. WE'LL DO 7 MINUTES AGAIN FOR THE FIRST ROUND. LET'S SO I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP THE WAY
THAT YOU DID BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE POLICYMAKING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. AND SO SOMETIMES WE THINK WE KNOW HOW TO DO THINGS AND
SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE OF BOSTON TO LEARN HOW YOU GET THINGS DONE SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK. AND SO I WISH THAT YOU WOULD HAVE GONE FIRST BECAUSE THEN
THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED ME WITH MY IDEAS AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD FOR THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IS NO LONGER A YEAR BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS A NUMBER OF THINGS BUT
FIRST I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I REALLY LOVE THE FACT THAT LOUISIANA DOES IT FOR ALL AND I HAVE A HASHTAG THAT SAYS ALL MEANS ALL SO THAT MEANS EVERYBODY GETS IT AND EVERYBODY
BENEFITS FROM IT AND THAT ALSO DETERS FOLKS FROM TRYING TO TAP INTO OUR WHO IS USING IT AND WHO IS NOT AND I SO I THINK
THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY GREAT WAY TO REDUCE AND THE HARM THAT POTENTIALLY COULD COME OF IT RIGHT SO THAT WE WILL PUT AN ADDITIONAL TARGET ON FOLKS. RIGHT.
AND SO I REALLY LOVE THE INCLUSION THE WAY THAT YOU ALL GO ABOUT DOING IT. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE IN TERMS OF OUR COMMUNICATION AND OUR ROLLOUT
THAT THIS BENEFITS EVERYONE ESPECIALLY EVEN YOUNG PEOPLE. MY DAUGHTER IS WHAT 15 SHE WAS TRYING TO GET A BANK ACCOUNT LIKE GO YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN I.D. SO YOU KNOW, BUT SHE'S
STILL ON MY CASH APP. BUT THOSE ARE THE SORT OF THING I THINK THAT EVEN HAVING YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE AN ID I THINK ALSO HELPS IN OTHER WAYS. SO I JUST WANT TO I LOVE THAT.
AND THEN LOUIS OH MY GOD. YOUNG COSTS YOU ALL A MILLION POINT SOMETHING DOLLARS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW Y'ALL HOW HOW HOW IS THAT ONLY A MILLION?
BECAUSE MY FOLKS HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT $7 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE. SO I WANT YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE THE HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO KEEP COSTS AT
THAT THAT AT THAT RATE AND ALSO I BELIEVE YOU THE YOU HAD MENTIONED IN LOUISIANA YOU HAVE THREE STAFF SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW KIND OF IF
EVERYONE'S DOING IT HOW HOW YOU ALL ARE LIKE WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL IMPACT. SO LET'S START OFF WITH SOME MONEY Y'ALL BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT THE MONEY PART ADDRESS THE
MONEY PART Y'ALL SO THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM FROM HOW YOU ARE MAKING THIS HAPPEN FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT IF LOUIS IF YOU WANT TO GO FIRST OR I'M GOING TO GO FIRST ONLY BECAUSE
I THINK WE'RE CLOSER TO YOUR POPULATION IN TERMS OF LIKE YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN US SO IT WOULD BE A HIGHER BUT I HAD TO TAPER WHEN I GOT THEIR NUMBERS
. BILLY IN CHICAGO I HAD TO TAPER WHAT MY ASK WAS TO TO OUR CITY GOVERNMENT AS WELL AND YOU JUST YOU DO NEED TO BASE IT ON YOUR POPULATION RIGHT?
BECAUSE THE DEMAND WILL REFLECT THAT. AND SO THE PROGRAM AND THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SOFTWARE YOU YOU WANT TO AT LEAST BUDGET AT
LEAST 200 TO 300 AT LEAST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT, THE SOFTWARE, THE ONBOARDING AND YOU'RE ABLE
TO PUT OUT A GOOD RFP THAT WILL COVER WHATEVER YOU KNOW, WHOEVER RESPONDS TO IT IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT PART AND THEN YOU JUST REALLY HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT THE STAFFING. I THINK THREE IS TIGHT FOR US AND WE'RE ABOUT HALF YOUR YOU KNOW YOU GUYS ARE LIKE ALMOST DOUBLE THE POPULATION FOR FOR
CHICAGO I MEAN FOR NEW ORLEANS . AND SO YOU KNOW WE ARE HERE FOR EQUITABLE SALARIES AND AND MAKING SURE SO THAT THAT WOULD
BE UP TO YOU ALL BUT OUR PROGRAMS BUDGET THIS MOMENT IS A LITTLE BIT OVER HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT CONTEXT BUT WE ARE FRESH
RIGHT? AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THEREAFTER WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. SO JUST PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT IN TERMS OF THOSE COSTS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ALSO YOU
IN IT'S FOR EVERYONE RIGHT SO WE WERE WE SO THAT WE HAVE TO DOUBLE THAT IF EVERYONE'S DOING IT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER FOR US SO I LIKE I LIKE THE FRAMING THAT
YOU'VE PROVIDED BECAUSE IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR CAPACITY WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE POPULATION THAT THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THAT LOUIS YOU
HAVE ALSO FOR US ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS US KEEP COSTS DOWN IS OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE STAFF IN-HOUSE RIGHT? WE ONLY HAVE FIVE PEOPLE WHO
WORK IN ADMINISTRATIVE AND THEN WE PAY WE LAST YEAR WE PAID $300,000 TO TWO DELEGATE AGENCIES SO THEY SPLIT THAT
MONEY BEFORE THAT THAT NUMBER WAS CLOSER TO 500,000 AND WHAT THE CHANGE WAS WHEN WE WENT TO THE ONLINE PLATFORM WE HAD TO PULL MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE SO WE DECIDED TO PULL IT FROM THERE
BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO ALLOW US TO DO LESS IN-PERSON PRINTS, TO HAVE LESS STAFFING NEEDS AT THESE MOBILE PRINTS.
UNFORTUNATELY LIKE YOU KNOW LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE DONE, WE WE WERE FORCED TO PAUSE THE ONLINE PLATFORM. WE STILL DO HAVE OUR ONLINE
REPORTING SYSTEM AND SO IT'S STILL A LOT EASIER THAN IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF TWO YEARS AGO WHERE WE WERE DEALING WITH YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO EVENTS AND PEOPLE WERE WE WERE TELLING PEOPLE TO GET ON PRINT 250
IDEAS AND A THOUSAND PEOPLE WERE SHOWING UP AND SO THAT YOU KNOW, THAT MADE IT SO THAT WE NEEDED TO DO THIS. WE DO WORK WITH OUR VENDOR WHO IS I BELIEVE THE SAME VENDOR FROM ORLEANS AND PHILADELPHIA.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE DEALT WITH GOOGLE CRIME TECHNOLOGIES. THERE ARE GREAT I WILL SAY THAT YOU KNOW THE UPFRONT COST FOR US WAS OBVIOUSLY PURCHASING THE
EQUIPMENT, PURCHASING THE LICENSING AND SO WHEN THE PROGRAM FOR STARTING NOW THIS WAS BEFORE I GOT HERE THEY USE BASICALLY ANY IN-HOUSE STAFF IN
THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHO WAS NOT A UNION MEMBER RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE A UNION MEMBER YOU HAVE YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION AND YOU KIND OF HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT JOB DESCRIPTION. AND SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE ALL
HANDS ON DECK AND SO BECAUSE ALL THE MONEY WENT TO PURCHASING THE EQUIPMENT AND PURCHASING THE LICENSES AND AND THINGS OF THAT SORT BUT NOW THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE
EQUIPMENT, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO USE SOME OF THE MONEY ELSEWHERE. RIGHT? RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING NEW PRINTERS, THE PRINTERS THAT WE
HAVE WE NOTICE ARE THEY KIND OF HAVE LIKE A 40 LIKE FOUR YEARS OF SHELF LIFE AND ALL OF THIS ALL THE COST IS GOING TO DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU
GUYS DESIGNED THE CART RIGHT. AND SO OUR CARD HAS HAS HOLOGRAMS IN IT AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE TO USE A SPECIFIC TYPE OF PRINTER AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO USE A
SPECIFIC TYPE OF FILM AND RIBBON WHICH ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT GO INTO THE PRINTER THAT ONE THE RIBBON GIVES A COLOR AND THE FILM GIVES IT THE HOLOGRAM. RIGHT? AND THESE ARE SECURITY FEATURES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CARD AND
SO THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO I KNOW THAT WHAT I SPOKE TO KHALIDA WHEN SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, STILL IN THE PROCESS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE DESIGN DONE FOR THE ROLE AND STUFF
LIKE THAT WAS YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COST OF EVERY SINGLE CARD. I THINK THAT WE PRINT OUR CARDS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE $5 MARK
IT'S A LITTLE UNDER MAYBE LIKE $4 IN LIKE $0.89 OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT AND THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS US PER CARD TO PRINT. AND AGAIN WE DON'T SEE REVENUE FROM THIS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T CHARGE PEOPLE FOR IT AT
ALL. AND THEN WE ALSO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT ID FOR ALL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE
YOU KNOW THE BUSINESS PARTNERS, RIGHT? WE HAVE BANKING PARTNERS, WE HAVE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THAT'S HOW WE TRY TO ATTRACT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO SAY YOU WHAT I HAVE AN IDEA I DON'T
NEED I DON'T NEED ANOTHER I.D. WHEN I GO. THIS IS NOT THE SAME KIND OF IDEA. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT COME WITH THIS IDEA, RIGHT. SO WE AGAIN THE OTHER THING IS WE INCORPORATE LIBRARY CARD
NUMBERS, RIGHT? WE DON'T WE DON'T WE DON'T PAY FOR THAT. THOSE ARE GIVEN TO US BY THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THOSE WE DON'T THEY DON'T EVEN COME TO US. THEY GO TO OUR VENDOR WHO PUTS
THEM IN OUR SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN WE'RE TREATING PEOPLE'S IDEAS OUR IT PUTS THE I.D. THE LIBRARY CARD NUMBER ON THERE FOR US. BUT YEAH, SO A LOT OF THIS I
THINK YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO ONE GET A GOOD IP GET A GOOD SET OF OF TECHNOLOGY VENDORS I DON'T I KNOW THAT THERE'S CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOMETHING IN-HOUSE I WOULD
ADVISE AGAINST THAT JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A LARGER LARGER POOL THAN THAN YOU THINK TECHNOLOGY WISE.
YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO HAVE SPECIFIC KIND OF LIKE AGAIN LICENSING AND AND HAVING THE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.
I THINK IT'S IT'S THE WAY TO GO. IT'S TO HIRE A COMPANY WHO AND I DO WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR ANYBODY BECAUSE I WANT YOU GUYS TO DO YOUR PROCESS BUT THE ONE THAT WE HAVE WE'VE HAD THEM
SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING AND YOU KNOW, THEY'VE THEY'VE KIND OF ADJUSTED TO ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. THEY WORK WITH US REALLY WELL AND SO JUST GETTING A GOOD PARTNER IN THE TECHNOLOGY FIELD
WOULD BE A BIG HELP. I HOPE I HAVE ONE MORE TIME FOR ONE MORE QUESTION. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS GOING TO BE FOR OUR FRIENDS IN PHILLY. I KNOW PHILLY LIKES TO BE
COMPETITIVE SO JUST IN A NUTSHELL I'D LIKE TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT YOUR IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS WAS LIKE AND THEN FOR MY GOOD FRIENDS AT LAWYERS FOR
CIVIL RIGHTS AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU WERE HERE AS A PARTNER WITH OUR OFFICE ON THIS INITIATIVE AND WHAT CAN YOU SAY FROM THE LEGAL BECAUSE I KEEP
HEARING ABOUT RECORDS IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO DO LIKE OUR OTHER SISTER CITIES ARE DOING AND SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHARE INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO JUST WITHHOLD IT?
IS THAT SOMETHING LEGALLY THAT WE CAN DO HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON BECAUSE EVERY CITY AND STATE IS DIFFERENT WITH THEIR LAWS? CAN WE TAKE A LOOK? WE SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP ANY RECORDS. SO PHILLY, FIRST YOUR
IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS AND THEN THE LAWYERS FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND THEN I WILL FOR MY SECOND ROUND I THANK YOU. WE ACTUALLY WORK VERY CLOSELY
WITH WITH CHICAGO BECAUSE WE DO SHARE THE SAME VENDOR ON MICRON TECHNOLOGY IS AND THEN WE DO LEARN A LOT FROM DOING OUR
IMPLEMENTATION WAS WORKING WITH A COMMUNITY LEADERS TO MAKE SURE THEY PROVIDE US YOU KNOW ADVICE OR YOU KNOW OR DOCUMENTS
THAT THEY EVERY PHILADELPHIA RESIDENTS CARRY. WE LEARN FROM OUR LAUNCH PHASE A LOT I HEAR FROM FROM CHICAGO
ACTUALLY AND ALSO FROM NEW ORLEANS THAT THAT YOU KNOW LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU JUST SIT UP
LATE ON THE STAFF WAS NOT ENOUGH AND THAT LUNCH YOU BROUGHT IN BUT THAT YOU KNOW AFTER THAT YOU DO ADJUSTMENTS
OF HOW WE YOU SPEED THE PROCESS HOW THAT YOU KNOW LIKE OTHER ORDER DOCUMENTS COULD BE ADDED
TO THE REGULATIONS TO HELP MORE RESIDENT IN PHILADELPHIA AND MORE AND MORE COMMUNITIES YOU KNOW IS IS IS A OF WORK WITH
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE THERE IS IN OUR YOU KNOW CITY OF PHILADELPHIA LAW DEPARTMENT
TO I GUESS OUR OUR PROGRAM TO DO WE CAME THAT THE THAT THE SEAT THAT ABBY FOR EVERYONE AND THEN THE SAME THING YOU KNOW I
CHAIRED THE SAME THING I SHARED WITH YOU IS IS THAT YOU KNOW LIKE WE PROMOS ARE WHERE YOU KNOW THAT AL-QAEDA WE AS YOU
KNOW WE THE BENEFIT PARTNERS YOU KNOW LIKE IS THAT THE STRONG ENGAGEMENT LOCAL BUSINESS TO TO PROMOTE THE YOU
KNOW THE BENEFIT THAT COME IN ALONG WITH THAT THE PHC THE 80 BROOK TAKE IT HOME NOW WHERE
THEY SHUT ME DOWN THANK YOU SO I THINK THERE'S KIND OF TWO PIECES TO YOUR QUESTION FIRST IS WITH RESPECT TO THE RETENTION OF INFORMATION AND THEN SECOND HOW TO RESPOND TO ANY REQUESTS FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. I THINK WITH RESPECT TO RETAINING INFORMATION AT ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE
TO HIRE A YOU KNOW, A CULTURALLY COMPETENT THIRD PARTY CONSULT AND TO DISCUSS THE DATA SECURITY. I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO NOT
RETAIN ANY INFORMATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHY NEW ORLEANS AND SOME OTHER BUT PHILADELPHIA I THINK OTHER PROGRAMS ARE DOING IS KEEP NO INFORMATION AT ALL SO SOMEONE APPLIES AND THEN CERTAINLY
THEIR DOCUMENTS ARE HANDED BACK TO THEM BUT ALSO THE APPLICATION FORM THAT HAS THEIR NAME AND THEIR BIRTHDAY AND YOU KNOW, ADDRESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE ALMOST
AIRTIGHT WAY TO ENSURE THAT DATA DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY'S DATABASE OR OTHERWISE TO THEN BE TURNED OVER. BUT IF SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE RETAINED OR THE CITY DECIDES
IT DOES WANT TO RETAIN SOMETHING PERHAPS FOR AN OPT IN PURPOSE IN TERMS OF FOLKS WHO ARE UNHOUSED WHO WANT THAT INFORMATION ON HAND FOR THE FUTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
HIRING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT SPECIALIZES IN THAT I THINK WOULD BE WISE IN TERMS
OF THE RESPONDING TO A REQUEST. SO AS I BELIEVE I TOUCHED ON BEFORE UNDER FEDERAL LAW PARTICULARLY THE 10TH AMENDMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT OBLIGATED COLLECT OR
SHARE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR IMMIGRANT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES AND THAT'S AFFIRMED BY COURTS IN CASES INVOLVING SANCTUARY CITY POLICIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN'T COMPEL A LOCAL JURISDICTION TO SHARE INFORMATION, TO DISCLOSE INFORMATION UNLESS REQUIRED BY A VALID COURT ORDER OR A SUBPOENA.
AND THERE IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AN ONGOING LAWSUIT RIGHT NOW AGAINST THE CITY OF BOSTON WITH RESPECT TO ITS TRUST ACT AND OUR STATUS AS A SANCTUARY CITY.
AND BOSTON HAS INDICATED THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ITS SANCTUARY CITY POLICIES. SO I THINK THE WAY THAT THAT SHAKES OUT IN THE COURTS IN LITIGATION MIGHT PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHAT COULD
HAPPEN HERE. BUT THE CITY IS NOT OBLIGATED TO TURN ANYTHING OVER WITHOUT WITHOUT LIKE I MENTIONED A VALID VALID COURT ORDER OR
SUBPOENA ONE OF THEIR BIT JUST TO TO TO TOUCH ON GOING BACK TO THE FIRST PIECE ABOUT RETENTION RETENTION OF INFORMATION THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS UNLIKE SOME OTHER STATES, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE FORUM THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED SO IT DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN INFORMATION THAT'S SUBMITTED
ONLINE VERSUS IN PERSON IN PAPER WITH RESPECT TO PUBLIC RECORDS LAW IN MASSACHUSETTS IT'S BASED ON THE CONTENT OF THE INFORMATION. SO YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE
OF INFORMATION IS BEING REQUESTED. AND SO AGAIN THAT'S KIND OF WHY LIKE NEW ORLEANS, LIKE PHILADELPHIA, OTHER CITIES IT'S BEST TO NOT RETAIN ANY SORT OF INFORMATION BECAUSE UNLIKE
CHICAGO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S SUBMITTED ONLINE OR IN PERSON ANYTHING WOULD BE CAPTURED BASED ON BASED ON THAT CONTENT. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR
QUESTION A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME THAT YOU ALLOWED ME TO HAVE. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. THANK YOU ALL.
I SEE COUNCILMAN WEBER SO ON COVER EVERYONE FOR YEAH THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU YOU KNOW MR FUNT AS YOU SAID IS LIKE $1,000,000. IT'S JUST I YOU PROBABLY SAID
THAT SO I JUST MISSED IT IN TERMS OF IS THAT LIKE A YEAR THAT THE START UP YOU KNOW BUT WHAT DOES THAT WHEN THE INITIALLY STARTED IT WAS JUST $1 MILLION FLAT FOR THAT YEAR
RIGHT NOW OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR 2025 WAS 1,266,735. OKAY.
AND IN THAT I'M SORRY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DOWN FROM 222 FOR BECAUSE IN 2024 WE WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE ONLINE PLATFORM AND SO WE ASKED FOR MORE MONEY.
THEY GAVE IT TO US. I THINK THAT WAS CLOSER TO 1.5 MILLION BUT THEN SINCE THEN WE BROUGHT IT BACK DOWN TO TO THE NUMBER. IT IS NOT AND THEN SO CAN YOU
EXPLAIN WHY WOULD IT BE YOU? MY SENSE WOULD BE LIKE IT COSTS WOULD GO AS PEOPLE GET THE IDS
AND YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE EVERY YEAR BUT IT WOULDN'T EVEN IT WOULDN'T. AM I WRONG IN EXPECTING LIKE OKAY, YOU KNOW AFTER A YEAR
MAYBE WE'VE GIVEN OUT YOU KNOW, X NUMBER THOSE PEOPLE DON'T NEED IDS ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'VE PROVIDED WOULD YOU SET IT TO GO DOWN OR WOULD IT BE WOULD THE
OPERATING COSTS BE THE SAME EXPECTED FOR EVERY YEAR I GUESS OF ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON? YEAH, YOU'RE THE LONGEST RUNNING HERE SO YOU WOULD YOU
WOULD ASSUME RIGHT? I WOULD SAY BUT WE OFTEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW YOU'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE POPULATIONS THAT WE WORK WITH. RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED.
WE HAVE YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH WITH SCHOOLS, WE WORK WITH GERMAN CITIZENS AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A STABLE ENVIRONMENT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, THEIR THINGS. AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOSE THEIR STUFF.
RIGHT. AND SO I CAN SAY THAT WE PROBABLY REPRINTED A QUITE A BIT OF IDEAS ON, YOU KNOW, THE COST THAT WHEN IT GOES UP DURING ANY PARTICULAR YEAR A
LOT OF IT IS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING NEW OR NEEDING TO EITHER PURCHASE A LICENSE OR HAVE SOME KIND OF NEW EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, SO
LAST YEAR IN 2024 WE WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT AN ONLINE PLATFORM THAT COST US AN ADDITIONAL I BELIEVE $125,000 AND THEN WITH THAT COMES MAINTENANCE. RIGHT.
AND SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO PAY OUR OUR VENDOR A MAINTENANCE FEE FOR THE UPKEEP OF NOT ONLY OUR ONLINE PLATFORM BUT THE PORTAL THAT WE USUALLY
GO OUT TO EVENTS IS ALSO MANAGED BY THEM AS WELL. AND SO YEAH, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE COSTS THAT THAT FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE NEEDING TO DO. BUT IDEALLY YES THE COST SHOULD
BE GOING DOWN BASED ON THE NUMBER OF IDEAS THAT WE HAVE TO PRINT ON NOW YOU KNOW AGAIN WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE CITY. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WERE YOU KNOW, MOVING INTO THE CITY AND
SO TO SPEAK. SO THEY TEND TO KIND OF STAY PRETTY SIMILAR THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. WE DO PURCHASE THINGS IN BULK AND SO FOR INSTANCE THE CITY CARDS THAT WE GET WHERE WE
PRINT THE THESE ARE THE VENTURE CARDS AND THOSE WE BUY THEM IN LIKE 50 200,000, YOU KNOW, UNITS AND SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE ENOUGH LEFT OVER AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE DON'T NEED
TO BUY SOME THE FOLLOWING YEAR AT LEAST NOT FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS. AND SO THAT KIND OF HELPS US KEEP THAT SOME OF THAT COSTS DOWN. BUT YEAH, SO IT'S YOU KNOW, AGAIN IT FLUCTUATES BASED ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO BUT WE'RE
ALSO TRYING TO MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY OVER TO SOME SPACES WHERE IT WILL ALLOW US TO GROW THE PROGRAM AND SO ON. ADVERTISING AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. YOU KNOW WE YOU KNOW WE KNOW THAT WE'RE SAVING MONEY AT THIS
END. WELL, LET'S USE SOME OF THAT MONEY BECAUSE AGAIN WE KNOW THE WORKS AND I'M ASSUMING IT WORKS THE SAME THE SAME WAY BOSTON THE CITY GIVES YOU MONEY AND IF YOU DON'T USE IT, THEY TAKE IT BACK. YEAH.
YEAH, WE DEFINITELY HAD TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT DURING BUDGET SEASON . WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON NOW SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING. YEAH WELL I GUESS SO. LAST QUESTION FOR CHICAGO WOULD
BE LIKE YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN THE CROSSHAIRS OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. WE ARE LIKE NEXT IN LINE OR I DON'T KNOW. SO YOU GOT SUED FIRST? WE GOT SUED AFTER YOUR LAWSUIT
WAS AGAINST THE SANCTUARY CITY POLICY WAS DISMISSED BY THE FEDERAL COURT JUST IN YOUR OFFICE HAS SINCE THE YOU KNOW WITH THE THREAT AND DISARRAY
IT'S AND ALL THIS STUFF. HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BECAUSE HONESTLY LIKE YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW, ARE WE SIGNING UP PEOPLE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFORMATION SHARING AND
YOU KNOW AND WE HAVE A TRUST WE HAVE THE BOSTON TRUSTS ACT AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SHARE THAT. BUT I THINK TROUBLINGLY I THINK THE IT'S LIKE WHEN I READ THAT CASE IN ILLINOIS THAT THE
FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T WITHHOLD IMMIGRATION STATUS INFORMATION OBVIOUSLY I DON'T THINK WOULD KEEP WERE OBTAINING IMMIGRATION STATUS INFORMATION IN THIS BUT YOU
KNOW IF WE SOMEHOW HAD IT LIKE EVEN IF WE HAD THE INFORMATION WE MIGHT WE WOULD HAVE TO TURN IT OVER EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A TRUST. SO THAT'S MY READING OF IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTICIPATE IN
IMMIGRATION ACTIONS. THAT'S WHAT THE 10TH AMENDMENT SAYS ANYWAY, SORRY BUT SO JUST ANY CONVERSATIONS IN YOUR OFFICE ABOUT OKAY LIKE NOW
WE'RE HAVE THIS PROGRAM IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT NOW THAT YOU KNOW LIKE YEAH YOU KNOW YEAH WE'VE HAD THIS ESTABLISHED
PROTOCOL FOR OUR IN-PERSON EVENTS SO THAT IS YOU KNOW FEDERAL AGENTS DO DECIDE TO COME OUT NOW AGAIN WE DON'T YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO THERE THERE YOU KNOW WE KIND
OF LIKE JUST KIND OF LET THEM DO THEIR THING. UM, LUCKILY WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE YET. WE DO WORK A LOT WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE IN THAT IN THAT GROUP YOU KNOW THE THE WE CALL NEW CITIZENS OR NEW RESIDENTS OR OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A NONPUBLIC EVENTS WHERE WE DON'T PUBLICIZE IT ANYWHERE. WE JUST KIND OF WORK WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND THIS CAN BE ANYTHING.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE JUST NOT PUBLICIZED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST FREELY WALK INTO A SCHOOL AND AND DECIDE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN I.D. YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR THE STUDENTS AND STAFF OF THE SCHOOL.
BUT A LOT OF IT IS IS YOU KNOW, COMES FROM THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO PUT SOME SOME PROTECTIONS IN PLACE SO TO PROTECT THESE THE POPULATION WE WORK WITH. AND SO WE WILL HAVE NON
NONPUBLIC EVENTS WHERE WE DON'T PUBLICIZE IT ANYWHERE. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHO WE'RE PRINTING ON WE GO THERE WE DO THEM AND THEN WE GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS BUT WE
DO HAVE TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC FORUM WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF BACKLASH FROM JUST YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR LONG TERM RESIDENTS SAYING A YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST
DOING THIS IN SECRET THEN WHO ARE YOU REALLY REACHING AND WHO IS THIS FOR? RIGHT. AND WE WANT YOU KNOW, SO THE IDEA FOR ALL YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE IT BE ACCESSIBLE TO
EVERYONE AND SO WE DO HAVE THOSE THOSE THINGS IN PLACE ON THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS YOU KNOW, SHUTTING DOWN OR PAUSING THE ONLINE PLATFORM WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DID JUST
EASILY IT WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION, A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS WITH SOME OF OUR OUR FRIENDS IN CITY COUNCIL, SOME OF OUR FRIENDS AT
THE STATE LEVEL AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DECIDED IT WAS IT WAS FOR THE BEST FOR THE BENEFIT OF OF OF EVERYONE TO GO AHEAD AND AND SHUT THAT DOWN FOR THE TIME BEING. BUT WE WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION
OF BRINGING IT BACK. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW I'M I'M ASSUMING IN PHILADELPHIA AND NEW ORLEANS SIMILAR CONCERNS OR
CONVERSATIONS I MEAN OBVIOUSLY JUST WE DO KNOW YOUR AGE TRAININGS YOU KNOW, FOR IMMIGRATION AND IT'S LIKE WHO'S GOING TO SHOW UP AND TRY TO
REACH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY? I GUESS IT JUST IT'S JUST SO MISS LLOYD IT TURN YOU MAKING
THE IDS ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, HOMELESS PEOPLE LIKE WHAT KINDS OF HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE ID AND YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THEY THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT PROVIDING
LIKE A UTILITY BILL LIKE HOW IS THIS HOW DOES IT WORK? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT
ACCESSIBLE POSSIBLE AND SO I THINK WE LEANED ON OUR THE WISDOM FROM FILLING WITH A LETTER OF CARE AND SO WE CALL
IT A LETTER CARE THAT ANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZER ASIAN 501C3 SHELTER CHURCH YOU CAN FILL OUT
THIS LETTER OF CARE IF THEY ARE WILLING TO VOUCH FOR THE IDENTITY OF SAID PERSON WHO'S RECEIVING SERVICES FROM THEIR ORGANIZATION THEY ALSO CAN
VOUCH FOR THEIR RESIDENCY WITHIN ORLEANS PARISH, THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS. AND SO OUR BIGGEST HURDLE THUS FAR WITH JUST SO WE CAN SO I
WANT TO PREFACE THAT IS PEOPLE FROM OTHER PARISHES WANT TO GET THE ID AND IT'S LIKE 19 YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT AND WE KNEW THAT WOULD
BE WOULD HAPPEN AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE JUST THE CITY IS JUST VERY CLOSE TO OTHER CITIES AND AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF BUT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT
CHARGING FOR THE ID IT IS FUNDED BY TAX DOLLARS. IT IS EXCLUSIVELY ONLY FOR CITY RESIDENTS AND IT ALSO IT'S A CITYWIDE SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES
IT AND SO WE DO A LETTER OF CARE THAT THEY CAN FILL OUT IN BE ABLE TO VOUCH FOR THEIR IDENTITY AND ALSO VOUCH FOR THEIR RESIDENCY IF THEY'RE IN
LIKE A SHELTER OR THEY'RE RECEIVING SERVICES THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO THAT HELPS CREATE ACCESSIBILITY FOR THAT GROUP THAT MAY NEED AN ID SOONER
RATHER THAN LATER BUT ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOUCH FOR ONE'S IDENTITY SO THEY'RE RECEIVING SERVICES. WE'RE ALSO HOPING THAT THAT WILL CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES. RIGHT.
AND SO THEIR MOTIVATION IS I NEED AN I.D. AND THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED TO ANY SERVICE HERE IN THE CITY. OUR JOB NOW IS TO LEVERAGE OUR PARTNERS WHO WE'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH TO CONNECT THEM SO THEY CAN GET THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE HOPEFULLY THAT THEY NEED WITH THIS MOTIVATION OF LIKE LET ME GET THIS I.D. SO OKAY, THANKS.
YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW JUST YOU KNOW, SO THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF KATRINA AND I WAS I REPRESENTED MIGRANT FARM WORKERS WITH TEXAS. WE HAD RANDY LEGAL AID AND WE
HAD A GROUP OF FARM WORKERS THERE WHO ARE LIKE BELLE CHASE WHO GOT STRANDED AND I WENT I WAS IN NEW ORLEANS ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AFTER KATRINA AND JUST
YOU KNOW, I CAN NEVER FORGET IT AND I JUST I WAS IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT IN AN APARTMENT WITH LIKE NO POWER AND PEOPLE HAD
REFRIGERATORS BEING REMOVED FROM THEIR THEIR HOUSES, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSES THAT WERE LEFT STANDING BECAUSE LIKE THEY HAD TURNED INTO LIKE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS AT THAT POINT BECAUSE PEOPLE LEFT THINKING THEY'LL BE
BACK IN A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ONE MEMORY A DAY THEY'LL SORT OF STREETS LINED WITH REFRIGERATORS AND SOMEBODY WROTE GRAFFITI ON ONE IT SAID DO NOT OPEN CHENEY INSIDE.
AND SO THAT'S I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT. BUT JUST ONE LAST QUESTION FOR BROCK I GUESS I MEAN LIKE JUST HOW DO WE AVOID A SITUATION
WHERE WE ONLY CREATED SOME SORT OF DATABASE EVEN IF IT JUST MEANS THAT IT'S LIKE OKAY, LIKE LET'S GET THOSE NAMES AND NOW WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO
ROUND THOSE PEOPLE UP. I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FEAR IF THERE'S REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT SOMEONE'S UNDOCUMENTED JUST BECAUSE THEY WORK IN A CAR WASH OR YOU KNOW, SPEAK ENGLISH WITH A FOREIGN
ACCENT, YOU KNOW LIKE THAT IT LIKE I MEAN IS IT A VALID CONCERN OR IS IT YOU KNOW IS THAT A CONCERN THAT'S OUTWEIGHED BY THE BENEFIT OF IT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A VALID
CONCERN. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANY RETENTION OF DATA POSES A RISK OF THAT BEING YOU KNOW ASKED FOR AND TURNED OVER TO THE GOVERNMENT.
I THINK THAT ONE STRATEGY THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ARE DOING ALREADY IS THE IT REALLY ENCOURAGING AND EMPHASIZING ALL BOSTONIANS TO
GET THIS I.D. THE VALUE OF THE DATA WHETHER IT'S NAMES OR YOU KNOW, THE VALUE OF DATA BECOMES MUCH LESS VALUABLE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF PEOPLE
FROM ALL SORTS OF BACKGROUNDS ARE APPLYING IN OBTAINING THE ID. SO I REALLY THINK THAT EMPHASIZING THAT THIS IS A PROGRAM FOR ALL YOU GET ALL THESE WONDERFUL BENEFITS AND
ALSO REITERATING THAT IT DOES NOT ASK FOR IMMIGRATION STATUS IN THE APPLICATION. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROCESS AT ALL. THIS IS NONIMMIGRANT ID THAT WILL REALLY REDUCE THE VALUE
OF THE DATA IF AGAIN IT'S JUST FILLED WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO WHO DO HAVE LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES. OKAY. THANKS. JUST JUST QUICKLY THEN LAST THE
LAST FINAL QUESTION FOR ME. SO FOR CHICAGO AND PHILADELPHIA LIKE WHAT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE THE IDS YOU HAVE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR JUST LIKE IN A NUMBER
MAYBE SOME THIS I DON'T KNOW I CAN ESTIMATE OUR POPULATION IS CLOSER TO 3 MILLION. WILL WE HAVE 100 LITTLE OVER
150 154,000 AT THESE PRINTED SO YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT MIGHT DO YOU KNOW IF NEW YORK CITY IS HIGHER I KNOW NEW YORK CITY HAS THIS AND HERE THEY HAVE A LARGER THEY HAVE A HUGE BUDGET.
THEY HAVE A LARGE TEAM. THEY HAVE WAY MORE RESOURCES THAN ALL OF US COMBINED. THIS IS GREAT. NO SURPRISE. I MEAN THE NEW YORK CITY BUDGET IS LARGER. IT'S LIKE THREE TIMES THE SIZE
OF THE BUDGET OF THE ENTIRE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS. BUT YEAH, I BECAUSE I THINK THEY OFFER LIKE DISCOUNTS ON THINGS YOU KNOW SO YEAH YEAH SO WE DO THE SAME THING WE OFFER
DISCOUNTS WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO I TRY TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE YORK TO GET SOME OF THEIR BIGGER PARTNERS TO BE LIKE COSTCO AND TARGET AND YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCAL
PARTNERS WE HAVE A LOT WE DO HAVE SOME BANKS THAT TAKE IT WE HAVE SOME A LOT OF CREDIT UNIONS BECAUSE WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT DOES HURT WHEN YOU DON'T KEEP ANY INFORMATION THE
BANKS DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT NOW IN LOCALLY WE DO HAVE A LOT OF BANKS THAT WILL SAY HEY, WE'LL TAKE THE IDEA AS A SECONDARY IDEA BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADVERTISE IT AND THEN
WE HAVE BANKS THAT ACTUALLY WORK WITH US THAT ARE ON YOU KNOW THEY'RE THERE ON OUR WEBSITE AS BANKS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO TO TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT WITH THE IDEA AND SO BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT DOES HURT OR HURT YOU WHEN YOU DON'T KEEP INFORMATION. I WILL SAY THAT WE GONE THROUGH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE US FEDERAL COMPTROLLER WHO WAS ABLE TO
WRITE US A LETTER SAYING THAT ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THIS IS A VALID FORM ID FOR THE PURPOSES OF OPENING A BANK ACCOUNT BUT AT THE END
OF THE DAY THE BANKS, YOU KNOW, CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY DON'T THERE'S NO JURISDICTION SAYING THAT YOU MUST TAKE OUR I.D. SO WE DO GET A LITTLE IT IS A LITTLE
DIFFICULT IN THAT SENSE. WE HAVE OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST SO SO THE DISCOUNTS IS THAT LIKE THROUGH PHILANTHROPY I MEAN I KNOW WE WE WE WE WE PROCURE YOU KNOW, WE GO OUT TO
DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND WE JUST KIND OF LIKE TRY TO GET THEM TO JOIN ON AS A AS A PART OF THE A LOT OF THEM THE DROP IN THE OFFER I MEAN THESE DISCOUNTS ARE SOME OF THEM CAN
BE LIKE 10% OFF THEIR BILL. I GOT A RESTAURANT SOME OF THEM ARE YOU GET YOU GET IN FRENCH MUSEUMS YOU KNOW SO BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE PROCURE AND AT A LOCAL LEVEL IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IT'S DONE
PHILANTHROPICALLY WHERE PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW, GIVING US MONEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO, I MEAN I WOULD CONSIDER LIKE WORKING WITH SOME LOCAL DIABETICS OR I DON'T KNOW I'M
TRYING TO REMEMBER MY CHICAGO PIZZERIA DO A WOULD WOULD JUST SAY LIKE HEY, YOU KNOW MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME EXTRA CUSTOMERS .
WOULD YOU PAY WOULD YOU PAY THEM TO DISCUSS? YEAH NO NO WE DON'T PAY THEM THEY DON'T PAY US. IT'S ALL BASICALLY YOU KNOW WE SAY WE'RE OFFERING YOU GUYS FREE ADVERTISING SO WE PUT THEM
ON OUR WEBSITE, WE PUT THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHEN WE GO OUT TO DIFFERENT EVENTS WILL TAKE SOME OF THEIR COLLATERAL WITH US THINGS OF THAT SORT. IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, SMALL MARKET STUFF. IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUNNING COMMERCIALS FOR THEM OR
PAYING THEM ANY SORT OF MONEY FOR THEM TO BE A PARTNER ON. SO YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF JUST A GRASSROOTS CONVINCING PEOPLE THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA IN SOME SOME BUSINESSES JUST JOIN
BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S A YOU KNOW IT'S GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY SO OKAY THANKS I GUESS PHILADELPHIA HOW MANY HOW MANY IDEAS WE RIGHT NOW LAUNCH
LAUNCHES 92,000 BUT THE ONLY THING THEY MAY YOU KNOW I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY OR LENDS THAT THE THE THING I
WE THE CD EMPLOYEES HASN'T SEEN I'D ALSO BE WITH THAT GOOGLE LIKE DESIGNATION THIS CD EMPLOYEE WE DO HAVE LIKE YOU TRACK THE SAME THING YOU KNOW
LIKE I MENTIONED THAT TO ATTRACT THAT YOU KNOW LIKE PENNSYLVANIA STAKEHOLDERS I'D STAY HOLIDAY TOO YOU KNOW WORKING A LOT IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH WI LOCAL BUSINESSES YOU KNOW PROVIDING THE DISCOUNTS I GUESS THAT YOU KNOW I WE LEARNED FROM NEW YORK AND IN
CHICAGO AROUND THAT YOU KNOW LIKE THAT PROPORTION OF BENEFITS THAT YOU KNOW MANY MANY BENEFITS TO THE COURT AND
THEN YOU KNOW LIKE A YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW LIKE SOMETIMES EVEN SAY WHY I NEED TO GET IN AND ALL THAT I D AND YOU KNOW BANKS ARE REQUIRING PHILADELPHIA TO TO OPEN IT
COMES TO A FORM SO I D ID IN ONE CAN BE THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THAT YOU KNOW ONLY THAT YOU KNOW LIKE DID THE SAME THING WE
OLDER SISTER CITIES THE LIBRARY CARDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT YOU KNOW LIKE IN THE EMERGING SECOND CONTEXT ALLERGIES OR
MEDICAL CONDITION THE ADDICT IN THE BACK OF THE COURT AND THEN YOU'LL AND AND THEN YOU KNOW LIKE YOU KNOW YOU FOR LPT Q
PRESIDENT LIKE GENDER ID I ATTRACTIVE SO LIKE ALL THOSE STATS ALL BENEFITS ARE CAN BE ARE VERY BENEFICIAL AND MAY ATTRACTIVE TO THOSE COMMUNITIES
OKAY THANK YOU THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR LETTING ME GO ON SO ON THE CHAIR AND COUNCILOR HERE THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT AND BACK TO YOU CHAIR
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND NO WORRIES THIS IS THE I ACTUALLY HAVE VERY LIMITED QUESTIONS NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF MINE MIRRORED MY COLLEAGUES AND I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
THOUGHTFUL AND INTENTIONAL NOT ONLY QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH AND OF COURSE THE LIST THAT I HAD IS NOT IN FRONT OF ME SO I DON'T I'LL GO TO
COUNCILOR MEJIA IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YOU THINK YOU CAN GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY? YEAH. SO THANK YOU ALL I AM I'M GOING
TO I WISH I CAN GO LIVE IN YOUR CITIES AND CONTINUE TO CAUSE GOOD TROUBLE IN THOSE SPACES IN PLACES I'M SO INSPIRED BY EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND CONTINUE TO DO FOR YOUR RESIDENTS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION. I'M ALSO CURIOUS I'M GOING TO ASSUME AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE COULD SPEAK TO THIS BUT LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE
POLICY SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE UBER ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THINGS AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD TALK TO US ABOUT SOME
OF THE HURDLES THAT YOU FACED IN YOUR POLICYMAKING PROCESS. FOR SOME IT MIGHT BE YOU MAY HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS OF MAKING IT HAPPEN. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT IF
ANY HISTORICAL CONTEXT YOU COULD PROVIDE IN TERMS OF THE THE PUSHBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE POWERS THAT BE AS YOU TRY TO NAVIGATE JUST BECAUSE I
FEEL IN THE CLIMATE YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS THAT EVERYTHING IS DIFFICULT. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT LESSONS WHAT HURDLES YOU FACED AND HOW DID YOU OVERCOME THOSE HURDLES JUST SO THAT WE CAN
PREPARE OURSELVES FOR FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HEAR TODAY THAT WILL PROBABLY BUBBLE UP LATER AS WE CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE THE PROCESS WELL,
YEAH, I CAN I CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT SO I CAN SAY SO THE IDEA OF THE ORIGINAL IDEA OF THE IDEA CAME FROM ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS .
SO MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL BEFORE LEAVING OFFICE HIM AND THE CURRENT CLERK AT THE TIME BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO GO AFTER.
THEY WERE MODELING AFTER NEW YORK CITY AND THEN AT THE TIME AFTER IT CAME IN AND SHE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WAS TASKED BY THE MAYOR TO TAKE THIS ON AND TO
MAKE IT MAKE SURE IT'S SUCCESSFUL. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT SHE DID IS THAT SHE DECIDED TO HAVE A ROUNDTABLE WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
SO THEY WENT TO THEIR OVER 50 ROUNDTABLES ON JUST TO GET, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THE EDITION SHOULD INCLUDE, WHAT SHOULD IT YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE AND AND AT THE END OF THE DAY A LOT
OF THEM YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE NOW BUT A LOT OF THEM SAID THIS HAS TO BE A FREE I.D. THAT IS A BARRIER THAT IT GOES ACROSS EVERY SINGLE DEMOGRAPHIC ON.
IT IS YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE FREE. AND SO ONE OF THE BIG HURDLES IS GETTING IT TO BE FREE. RIGHT. OUR CITY COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
THE CITY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT MONEY AND THEY'RE LIKE WELL, YOU'RE PAYING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY ANYTHING BACK FROM IT. SO ON TIME AND TIME AGAIN EVERY
SINGLE YEAR OUR BUDGET WE GET THE QUESTION IS WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START CHARGING FOR THIS? BE RIGHT. A LOT OF THE COUNCILMEMBER THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA BECAUSE THEY FEEL MAYBE THEIR
CONSTITUENT DOESN'T REALLY BENEFIT AS MUCH AS OTHERS FROM IT WILL POINT TO THE FACT THAT WELL YOU THINK YOU KNOW THEY THINK THAT THE IDEA IS AN
IMMIGRANT IDEA RIGHT. AND SO THEY ALWAYS COME BACK TO THAT EVERY YEAR SAYING YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE ONLY PUTTING THESE ARE THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE SO MANY NUMBERS. IT'S BECAUSE WE HAD THIS INFLUX
OF IMMIGRANTS TO THE CITY AND AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALWAYS HAD TO FIGHT AGAINST IS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST NEVER TELL YOU THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY TRY TO AGAIN PROMOTE THIS AS AN IDEA FOR ALL WHICH IS AND YOU KNOW, WE AGAIN WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS WE WORK WITH YOU KNOW,
WE GO INTO THE THE JAILS AND WE PUT KIDS IN THE JAILS. WE WORK WITH A LOT OF NOT FOR PROFITS THAT WORK WITH SPECIFIC GROUPS LIKE THE CITIZENS LIKE THE YOUTH PROGRAMS RIGHT.
ALL THE OTHERS OF THE LIKE SPORTS PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS LIKE THE POP WARNER AND LITTLE LEAGUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE REQUIRED NOW
TO FOR THE KIDS TO HAVE A FORM ID KIDS ARE NOT YOU KNOW PARENTS GOT TO TAKE THEM TO THE DMV PAID $20, $30 OR WHATEVER IT'S A IT'S A PROBLEM IS A COST PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND SO THEY ALWAYS TURN TO US LIKE AS LONG AS OUR RESIDENTS ARE THE SAME AND SO BUT YEAH THAT'S THAT'S FOR US IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN I.D. FOR ALL AND MAKING
SURE THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL AND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS LEAD ON. LUCKILY FOR US WE HAVE A LOT
MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE FOR THIS IDEA AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF SURVIVE, YOU KNOW, SOME ATTACKS HERE AND THERE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. BUT YEAH, BUT THAT'S THAT'S I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE
IF YOU LOOK NOW FROM PHILADELPHIA AT THE LUNCHEON THERE WAS A LOT YOU KNOW, TRUST IN THAT TOWN YOU KNOW WHAT HOW
THIS IDEA IS YOU KNOW THE DOCUMENTS THAT IDENTIFY YOU KNOW WE WORK A LOT WITH OUR VENDOR, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE A VERY CERTAIN EXPERIENCE ABOUT
THE MUNICIPAL IDS, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH ALLIES WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS DIGGING A LOT OF MENTIONED YOU KNOW LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT DIFFERENT
DOCUMENTS CAN BE LIKE YOU KNOW DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS ARE YOU KNOW, CARRY TO IDENTIFY THEM AND THEN YOU KNOW LIKE
WORK YOU KNOW HAVING A WORKING GROUP THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU LISTEN EVERY SINGLE CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND TRY TO WORK IT TO THAT THAT YOU KNOW
THAT'S IS ONE THAT YOU KNOW MAIN HERALDS THAT WE FACE IN THAT FIRST AND THEN WE ADAPTED YOU KNOW BASED ON ALL THAT
BASICALLY WE RECEIVED FROM THE WORKING GROUPS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OR YOU I WOULD ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE THE
NEWEST ONE YOU'RE THE NEW THE YOU'RE THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK SO YOU KNOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTER JASON IN THE WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST NOW MORE MORE RECENT SO JUST
CURIOUS YEAH SO I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN THE BENEFIT OF HOW DO WE GET TO FRAME THE MESSAGING RIGHT AND SO THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THEM BUT I THINK THE
CHALLENGES THAT WE HOW WE'VE OVERCOME THOSE CHALLENGES WAS SO MUCH OF WHAT CHICAGO DID WAS FORMING A WORKING GROUP RIGHT? WHEN YOU HAVE COMMUNITY BEHIND
THE THING IT HELPS BECAUSE THEN IT DOESN'T FALL FLAT WHEN PEOPLE WHO ARE POLITICALLY DON'T TONE DEAF IS COMING UP AGAINST IT. RIGHT.
AND SO PEOPLE SHOWING UP, PEOPLE NEEDING IT AND BUYING INTO IT, BUSINESSES SIGNING ON AND BEING A PART OF IT IT'S MORE VOLUME THAN EVEN QUOTE
UNQUOTE NAYSAYERS AND SO REALLY FORMING A WORKING GROUP, MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE PROCESS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE A PART OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT. THE THE REALLY COOL THING ABOUT
A MUNICIPALITY PROGRAM IS YOU CAN EXPAND THE AMOUNT OF DOCUMENTS TO ACCEPT TO PROVE IDENTITY AND ALSO RESIDENCY. AND SO BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH
COMMUNITY TO SAY HEY WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENT BUT ALSO DO THE FINE LINE DOES COMMUNITY WANT TO DO A LOT OF THINGS TOO UM AND SO HAVING THAT FINE LINE AS WELL I THINK THE OTHER THING
TOO IS WE DID AN ORDINANCE WRITE THE MAYOR COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE HEY I WANT THIS PROGRAM CREATE THE PROGRAM BUT WE GET AN ORDINANCE SO THAT IT'S ESTABLISHED LAW WHICH YOU KNOW YOU ARE WALKING DOWN A PATH
ANYWAY BUT THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART AND SO THAT OR THE ORDINANCE PROCESS JUST HAD THIS OWN INTERNAL GUARDRAILS THAT HELP SUPPORT SUPPORT
SOMETHING AND THEN YOU HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE OF THAT BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CROSSES THE FINISH LINE. SO WE DID HAVE OUR
COUNCIL SUPPORT AND AND ALSO THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFICE WHO'S GOING TO TAKE IT ON. YOU KNOW, I THINK I GOT TO
THINKING ABOUT BEING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. IT'S A IT'S A HEAVY LIFT. IT'S A IT'S A WHOLE ENTIRE PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE ADMINISTRATING CITYWIDE.
AND SO HAVING AN OFFICE THAT FEELS VERY VESTED INTO THE PROGRAM AND COMMITTED TO SEEING IT FROM BEGINNING TO END AND OF COURSE ADDING THE CAPACITY TO IT I THINK IS REALLY
IMPORTANT AND CAN OVERCOME SOME CHALLENGES TO YOU HAVE TO RUN TO ANOTHER MEETING THANK NO BUT THANK YOU. WE'RE HOLDING YOU ALL HOSTAGE
HERE SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR THOUGHT LEADERSHIP AND I DO KNOW THAT WE WILL MOST LIKELY CONTINUE TO LEAN ON OUR OUTSIDE COLLEAGUES
OUTSIDE OF THE MUNICIPAL YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF BOSTON JUST BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO LEARN AS WE NAVIGATE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE OFFICE
OF INSPECTOR GENERAL AND HAVE RELIED ON A LOT OF OUR NATIONAL LEADERS TO HELP US GET THERE. SO THAT'S JUST THE PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE. WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY DONE IT CAN HELP US GET
IT RIGHT HERE TOO. SO THANK YOU, BROOKE. CAN YOU JUST FROM YOUR OWN PERSPECTIVE I GUESS WHAT I'M CONTINUING TO GRAPPLE WITH SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU KNOW
OTHER CITIES CAN SAY WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RETAIN INFORMATION THEN BOSTON CAN JUST SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO RETAIN INFORMATION EITHER. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO ASK OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT I'LL
NEED TO ASK LCR TO BE MY ADVOCATE? YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO FIGHT THAT LIKE JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE AT, WHAT YOUR INITIAL REACTION IS TO WHAT YOU HEARD
FROM OUR REGISTRAR EARLIER TODAY. I'M MEAN THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THE NATIONAL LANDSCAPE. WELL, I THINK THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NEED A
LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON. IT'S A BALANCE OF BOTH CITY LAW AND STATE LAW THERE. THE STATE HAS DIFFERENT LAWS
GOVERNING, YOU KNOW, BOTH PUBLIC RECORDS AND THE RETENTION SCHEDULE FOR DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL RECORDS AND SO SORT OF THE INTERPLAY OF THOSE TWO THINGS AS WELL AS
AGAIN KIND OF YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT COMES OF THE ONGOING LITIGATION RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, IF THE CITY OF BOSTON MIGHT ALSO PROVIDE SOME SOME
INTEL ABOUT KIND OF HOW THOSE TYPES OF ACTS STAND UP IN COURT, I THINK WE KNOW OR WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW THAT MIGHT PLAY OUT.
BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF CONTINUING TO SHIFT AND CHANGE. SO I THINK IT REALLY IS AN INTERPLAY OF THE STATE REGULATIONS AND STATE REQUIREMENTS COMBINED WITH WHAT
THE CITY HAS MADE CLEAR ITS VALUES AND IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW STANCE IS ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
AND I KNOW THAT THE THE CHAIR HAS APPEARED BACK ON SCREEN WHICH MEANS THAT MY TIME IS DONE AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHT LEADERSHIP.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE. I THINK A LOT OF MY JUST LIKE MY COLLEAGUES A LOT OF MY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS ARE REALLY GEARED TOWARDS THE LANGUAGE AND OUR GENERAL
COUNCILOR I ALWAYS PRESUMED THAT ANY RECORDS MADE OR RECEIVED BY A MUNICIPALITY ARE PRESUMED TO BE PUBLIC AND UNLESS WE BUILD SOME OF THOSE
SOME OF THOSE PROTECTIONS I THINK MY MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE AROUND LIKE OKAY, WHAT DOES THAT LANGUAGE LOOK LIKE? OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S MY MY MAIN CONCERN IS TO PROTECT ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
HELP BY PROVIDING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND JUST KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU AGAIN, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL IN WHICH THERE ARE BENEFITS. AND MY ONE QUESTION AND THEN
I'LL GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR AND I WILL DO CHICAGO JUST BECAUSE I HAVE IT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME. BUT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE
A PRESCRIPTION DISCOUNT CARD POTENTIALLY 80% OF SAVINGS ON GENERIC MEDICATIONS, MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, VETERINARY PRESCRIPTION CDS, DISCOUNTS AT CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS,
RESTAURANTS OR LOCAL BUSINESSES ,SPORTS EVENTS, THEATERS, MUSEUMS, THE YMCA, ALL OF THAT. WHEN I WAS A STAFF MEMBER FOR A CULTURAL INSTITUTION HERE IN
BOSTON, WE WERE CHARGED WITH TRYING TO FIND THE BROADER ECONOMIC IMPACT OF OF THE OF THE INSTITUTION AND THIS QUESTION IS GEARED TOWARDS MORE
OF LIKE THAT MACRO LEVEL AND APOLOGIZE IF IT'S IF IT'S TOO LARGE OF A QUESTION TO ANSWER THERE'S BEEN REALLY NO IMPETUS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS. BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE
IF YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO QUANTIFY ANY OF THOSE SAVINGS ON BEHALF OF OF RESIDENTS OR INVESTMENTS INTO LOCAL BUSINESSES OR EVENTS
AND HOW THAT HAS ACTUALLY EXPANDED RESIDENTS BUYING POWER AND HOW THAT AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER INVESTMENTS IN TO LOCAL BUSINESSES OR THEATERS AND MUSEUMS PERHAPS STRENGTHEN THE
LOCAL ECONOMY HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED INTO YET OR IS IT STILL TOO EARLY TO TELL? WE WE'VE ACTUALLY THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO WAS TRYING TO DO A STUDY WERE A
YEAR AGO ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR SITUATION . I DON'T RECALL WHAT THEIR FINDINGS WERE. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS THERE'S
SOME AND WE DO WANT INVESTIGATE THAT MORE WE DO WORK WITH SOME OF THE MUSEUMS. THEY KEEP SOME DATA ON HOW MANY PEOPLE USE IT WHEN THEY THINK WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO THE
ACTUAL MUSEUM. WE HAVE NOT GONE INTO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SAY HEY, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE USED THE DISCOUNT RATE? I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SPORTS TEAMS DO BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTUALLY CONTACTED US AND SAY
HEY, YOU KNOW WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU KNOW, EXPAND ON THE ACCESS AND THE REACH OF THIS PROGRAM. WE'VE ONLY SEEN X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE USE IT IN THE LAST
YEAR OR SO AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT IS AT THE MOMENT BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY ARE TRYING
TO LOOK AT AND TRY TO SEE WHERE WE CAN MAYBE PUT SOME DOLLARS TO MAYBE MARKET IT BETTER AND TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK
THROUGH WHAT SOME OF THE INCENTIVES COULD BE TO TRY TO SELL THIS TO THE BROADER PUBLIC ,TO SOME OF OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS, TO SOME OF OUR PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS AND JUST TRYING TO BUILD THOSE
PARTNERSHIPS AS BEST AS WE CAN DESPITE SOME OF THE WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DESCRIBED AS FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL BARRIERS. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
I AM GOING TO TRANSITION TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU ALL ARE RELEASED FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM BUT I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS AND YOUR WORK ON
ON ALL OF THIS. JUST KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR HAVING AN EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. I'M JUST CHECKING ON CENTRAL
STAFF IF I THINK WE HAD TWO FOLKS ON FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY BUT THEY MAY HAVE LEFT THE THE ZOOM DO WE HAVE ON THREE EVERYBODY IS LONGER IN THE ZOOM.
OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY INFORMATIVE HEARING, REALLY GRATEFUL FOR COUNCILOR TO HIS TEAM AND UP SUCH A GREAT EXPERT PANEL CONSTANTLY HERE FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS. I DO LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THAT CHIEF SOLIS RIVERA HAS REQUESTED ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS.
WE'D LIKE TO LOOK THROUGH THE LANGUAGE AS I MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROTECTION ASPECT OF IT BUT REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD COUNCILOR MEJIA. AND WITH THAT I THINK WE CAN GO
AHEAD AND SAY THAT THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0900 IS NOW ADJOURNED. THANKS EVERYON