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Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=awJ5Q7Z6oRI

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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: awJ5Q7Z6oRI):
- 00:00:58: Meeting Called To Order; Introduction of Attendees
- 00:04:23: Councilor Fitzgerald's Opening Statement: Appreciating City Workers
- 00:05:44: Councilor Flynn's Opening Remarks: Focus on Basic Services
- 00:07:04: Chief's Presentation: Pothole Causes, Prevention, and Repair
- 00:15:25: Councilor Fitzgerald's Questioning: Road Timeline and Reimbursement
- 00:22:10: 311 System Updates and Upgrades for Reporting Potholes
- 00:26:07: Councilor Flynn's Questioning: Asphalt Pickup and Distribution Process
- 00:33:51: Road Walkthrough Invitation and State/Congress Street Updates
- 00:38:23: Public Testimony Slot
- 00:39:22: Councilor Fitzgerald: Budget Constraints and Cold Patch Usage
- 00:43:09: Ideal Road Construction Methods and Materials
- 00:45:56: Councilor Flynn: ADA Ramp Requirements and Water Pooling
- 00:51:11: Dorchester Avenue and Washington Street Resurfacing Updates
- 00:54:03: Sidewalk Conditions on Beach Street; Utility Company Requirements
- 00:55:36: Pothole Reporting Procedures and Repair Timeframes
- 01:00:09: Acknowledging the Work of Pothole Repair Crews
- 01:00:55: Asphalt Temperatures, Safety Guidelines, and Traffic Recommendations
- 01:06:06: Adjournment and Thank You To Public Officials


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GOOD MORNING AND BOSTON CITY COUNCILOR ED FLYNN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE TODAY'S

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MEETING IS ON DOCKET NUMBER 0515. IT'S AN ORDER FOR A HEARING TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF ADDRESSING POTHOLES IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. WE HAVE ADMINISTRATION

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OFFICIALS THAT ARE HERE TODAY WITH US, INCLUDING THE CHIEF OF STREETS NICK OF INCLUDING THE PUBLIC WORKS SUPERINTENDENT OF STREET OPERATIONS HIGHWAY DIVISION

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DANNY NATE AND NORMAN PARKS. UM PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT DIVISION. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THESE, UM, EXCEPTIONAL CITY

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EMPLOYEES AND WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE NORM AND NORM AND YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 40 SOMETHING YEARS. 40 YEARS AND WANT TO SAY THANK

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YOU TO YOU, NORMAN, FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF BOSTON ALONG ALONG WITH DANNY ALONG WITH ALONG WITH UH THE CHIEF AS WELL.

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THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED. IT IS BEING LIVE STREAMED@BOSTON.GOV CITY COUNCIL DASH TV. BROADCAST ON XFINITY CHANNEL

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EIGHT RCN CHANNEL 82 FIOS CHANNEL 964 HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL ASKED KCI

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TO@BOSTON.GOV C CC AT KCI T@BOSTON.GOV. IT WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL AS ALSO IF ANY UM

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PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT ARE LISTENING THEY ALL CAN THEY ALSO CAN EMAIL ME DIRECTLY ED.FLYNN@BOSTON.GOV. PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

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AT THE END OF THE HEARING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON IN ORDER WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP. HAVE TWO MINUTES. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING IN PERSON PLEASE ADD

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YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER ON THE LEFT. IF YOU ARE UH, LOOKING TO TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL

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OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON LIAISON SHANE PAQUETTE. SHANE S H A N E.PACK@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE LINK YOUR NAME WILL BE

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ADDED TO THE LIST. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO SHANE FOR BEING HERE FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ETHAN THAT'S IN THE UM

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TELEVISION VIDEO ROOM. THANK YOU TO ETHAN. THANK YOU TO SHANE. AS I MENTIONED, DOCKET 0515 WATER FOR HEARING DISCUSS

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POTHOLES IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY BOSTON CITY COUNCILOR JOHN FITZGERALD FROM FROM DORCHESTER.

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UM. I'M GOING TO GIVE OPENING REMARKS, BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL FITZGERALD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO GO BEFORE ME.

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COUNCILOR FITZGERALD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, GIVE AN OPENING STATEMENT? YEAH, PLEASE. AND THANK YOU. UH, CHAIR. UH, FOLKS, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. ALL OF YOU. UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH

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I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. UH, LAST NIGHT I WAS AT THE RETIREMENT PARTY FOR DARLENE WILLIAMS, UH, AND GOT TO MEET A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, UH, THAT ARE IN, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WORK ON OUR STREETS, UH, FILL

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OUT POTHOLES, TAKE CARE OF OF THE CITY SERVICES THAT PEOPLE EXPECT. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS OUR GOVERNMENT DOES THAT UH, DON'T AS PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT BUT THE ONE THING THEY WANT IN PAYING THEIR TAXES JUST

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TO MAKE SURE HEY, I JUST WANT MY SIDEWALKS OKAY? MY STREETS. OKAY. UH, AND DELIVERING ON THOSE BASIC CITY SERVICES. SO IT WAS GREAT TO MEET A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS LAST NIGHT. UH, AND KNOWING THE LEADERSHIP

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TEAM UP HERE, UH, AND THE GREAT INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU ARE. UH, I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND, UH, AND THE CAMARADERIE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AMONGST EACH OTHER. UH, I FELT THAT LAST NIGHT AT

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THE RETIREMENT EVENT. UM, AND JUST THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT EACH OTHER AND THE REASON THEY STAY 37 YEARS, UH, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WORK THEY DO FOR THIS CITY. SO, UM, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU .

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UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LATER ON, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE TIME, CHAIR, AND APPRECIATE THE PANEL BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL FITZGERALD. MY OPENING STATEMENT WILL BE BRIEF. AND THESE. >> ARE THE ISSUES I LIKE TO

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FOCUS ON AS THE DISTRICT CITY COUNCILOR FROM DISTRICT TWO BUT ALSO CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. THIS COMMITTEE IT'S THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF CITY GOVERNMENT

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THAT RESIDENTS REALLY WANT US TO REFOCUS OUR ENERGY ATTENTION ON, ESPECIALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS. I THINK THEY WANT ELECTED OFFICIALS TO ADVOCATE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FOR

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BASIC CITY SERVICES, THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF CITY GOVERNMENT WHETHER IT'S POTHOLES, WHETHER IT'S WATER AND SEWER RELATED ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S PARKS, WHETHER IT'S CLEAN STREETS AND

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UM IMPROVING IMPROVING SERVICES . THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I THAT'S WHY I BECAME A CITY COUNCILOR IS REALLY TO JUST TO DEAL WITH THESE. THESE ISSUES.

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UM. I'M HERE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW WE FILL POTHOLES, THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE AHEAD OF US,

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HOW RESIDENTS CAN GET MORE ENGAGED AND ACTIVE BUT ALSO UM, LISTENING AND LEARNING MORE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM ON UM, THESE QUALITY OF LIFE

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ISSUES. LET ME STOP THERE. LET ME ASK THE CHIEF OF STREETS IF HE'D LIKE TO GIVE AN OPENING UM, PRESENTATION I BELIEVE YOU

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MIGHT HAVE A SLIDE SLIDE PRESENTATION? YES, COUNSELOR. >> THANK YOU. YEP. >> GO AHEAD. NICK. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. UM, COUNCILOR, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TO DISCUSS POTHOLES.

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UM, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A CRITICAL BASIC CITY SERVICE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SPEND, UH, QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON. SO, UM, WE UNDERSTAND POTHOLES ARE A VERY FRUSTRATING

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PERENNIAL ISSUE IN BOSTON AND OTHER COLD CLIMATE CITIES. UM, PUBLIC WORKS HAS ADOPTED AND IMPLEMENTED STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES TO ADDRESS THIS ROADWAY DEFECT. BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, I

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WANT TO START BY PROVIDING SOME BACKGROUND ON ON WHAT CAUSES POTHOLES. UM, WATER INFILTRATION IS THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF POTHOLES SO

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RAIN OR SNOW MELT SEEPS THROUGH CRACKS IN THE ASPHALT SATURATES THE SOIL AND THE AGGREGATE BASE BENEATH THE ROADWAY. UM SOFTENS IT AND CAUSES IT TO

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WEAKEN DURING FREEZE THAW CYCLES. UM, THIS WATER UNDER THE ROAD, UM, FREEZES, IT EXPANDS, CREATES A GAP UH, UNDER THE IMMEDIATE ROADWAY SURFACE AND

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WHEN THAT ICE MELTS, THE VOID THAT'S LEFT BENEATH UH, COLLAPSES UNDER UNDER TRAFFIC LOAD. UM, PROPER DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS A

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KEY FACTOR IN HELPING MANAGE, UM, POTHOLES. IF WATER CAN'T DRAIN AWAY FROM THE ROADWAY, IT CAN PULL AT LOW SPOTS AROUND MANHOLE CASTINGS AND CURB CUTS.

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AND THIS THIS CONTRIBUTES TO THAT FREEZE THAW CYCLE PROBLEM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY UM AGING INFRASTRUCTURE UH OLD PAVEMENT UH ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN

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COMPROMISED BY UH UTILITY REPAIR TRENCHES UM AND ROADS WITH POOR BASE COMPACTION. UM THESE ARE ALL MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO POTHOLES THAN THAN A STREET THAT ISN'T.

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IN GOOD CONDITION. UH, WHY ARE THERE MORE POTHOLES IN THE SPRING? WELL, THIS IS POTHOLE SEASON HERE IN NEW ENGLAND. UH, POTHOLES FORM, UH, BECAUSE THAT GROUND UNDERNEATH THAT'S

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BEEN FROZEN ALL WINTER UH, MELTS. AND SO THAT SUBBASE, UM, GETS SOFT. AND UNSTABLE. SO THIS WINTER, UM, WAS YOU

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KNOW, WE HAD SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL, UM, AND WE HAD A LONG DURATION PERIOD OF OF SUBFREEZING CONDITIONS, UH, AND THAT CONTRIBUTED TO A FAIRLY

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SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE UH, FREEZE THAW CYCLES. WE SAW A 13% MORE THAN AN AVERAGE THAN THE AVERAGE OF THE THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS, UM,

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WITH MORE THAN 70 DAYS UH WITH UH HIGH TEMPERATURES ABOVE FREEZING AND LOW. TEMPERATURES BELOW FREEZING. UM, SO THE WINTER AND THEN AGAIN THIS WINTER ALSO SAW OVER

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60IN OF SNOW UM, WHICH AGAIN REPRESENTS MORE THAN TWICE THE AVERAGE UH OF THE UH FIVE PREVIOUS WINTERS. SO THESE FACTORS ALL CONTRIBUTED. TO A. >> PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING UH

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PART ALL SEASON THIS SPRING. BUT WHILE WHILE THIS SPRING 311 POTHOLE REQUEST DID INCREASE SHARPLY IN MARCH UM, LIKE EVERY SPRING OUR CONCENTRATED EFFORT

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IN RESPONSE HELPED REDUCE THE VOLUME OF INCOMING REQUESTS. THIS EVENTUALLY RESULTS IN LOWER AND MORE STABLE SERVICE REQUESTS OUTSIDE OF THE SPRING POTHOLE SEASON.

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UM WHILE REPAIRING POTHOLES IS A CRITICAL BASIC CITY SERVICE UH, IT'S IT'S ONLY ONE COMPONENT OF OUR LARGER ROADWAY MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S WHY WE

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WE'VE INVESTED HEAVILY IN ROADWAY MAINTENANCE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE RESURFACED 50 MILES OF ROADWAY LAST YEAR AND WE'RE. PLANNING TO. >> DO ANOTHER 45 THIS YEAR. UM. >> ROADWAY MAINTENANCE IS IT'S

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A CONTINUAL YEAR ROUND EFFORT. UM, AND AGAIN, POTHOLES IS ONE COMPONENT OF IT, BUT OUR ENGINEERS ARE ROUTINELY ASSESSING GRADE THE CONDITION OF PAVEMENT ON EVERY BLOCK UH,

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ON EVERY STREET CITYWIDE. UM AND WE WORK WITH ALL THE UTILITY COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE DONE ANY NECESSARY REPAIRS AND UPGRADES TO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE WE GO IN

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AND RESURFACE A ROAD. UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE UTILITY COMPANY GOES IN SOMETIMES IT'S MULTIPLE THEY GO IN, THEY COMPLETE THE WORK SIGN OFF. UH, THEN WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT STREET, UM, FOR RESURFACING.

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I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF OUR POTHOLE REPAIR PROCESS. UM. >> WE PICK UP ASPHALT TWO AND IT'S CONCRETE, UM, EVERY MORNING. UM, WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS WORK

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IN HYDE PARK THAT WAY WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE'RE GETTING A REAL HIGH QUALITY AGGREGATE WHICH. >> IS. GOING TO WHICH IS GOING TO HOLD LONGER AND LAST LONGER. UH, IN THE IN THE DEFECT THE

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311 SERVICE REQUESTS THAT COME IN WE ORGANIZE THOSE BY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE ASSIGN THEM TO THE RESPECTIVE UH PUBLIC WORKS DISTRICT YARDS CREWS THEN YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE

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BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO TO COMPLETE THE WORK. UM. >> BUT ALSO THEY'RE. NOT JUST DOING THE REPORTED CASES. SO IF THEY GET A CASE ON A STREET AND THEY SHOW UP AND

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THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A HALF A DOZEN OTHER POTHOLES AROUND MAYBE THERE'S A YOU UH, A DAMAGED UTILITY CASTING. THEY'RE ADDRESSING THOSE POTHOLES UM, AS WELL.

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SINCE 2021, UM, POTHOLE REPAIR CLOSURES, UM, HAVE MATCHED INCOMING DEMAND ACROSS DISTRICTS. OUR AVERAGE RESOLUTION TIME IS IS 18 HOURS. UM, WHICH IS WE.

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>> THINK PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. UH, AND OVER TWO THIRDS OF ALL CASES ARE COMPLETED WITHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD. AGAIN, I THINK THIS DEMONSTRATES THAT WE'VE. >> YOU KNOW, WE'VE. PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES INTO ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

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UM, REPAIR ACTIVITY DOES, YOU KNOW, FLUCTUATE SIGNIFICANTLY SEASONALLY. UM. >> BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPH HERE UH, LONG TERM UH, REPAIR TRENDS HAVE REMAINED STABLE.

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UM, EARLY 26 TRENDS ARE IN LINE WITH UH, PREVIOUS PREVIOUS YEARS. YOU KNOW, WE WE CERTAINLY DID SEE A INCREASE UH, IN EARLY MARCH. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GRAPH THERE'S BEEN YOU

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KNOW, YOU COULD SEE THAT SEASONAL NATURE OF THE WORK ON THE LEFT. UM AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU KNOW. DEMONSTRATES THAT THERE'S. >> BEEN. REALLY NO SLOWDOWN IN. THIS ACTIVITY. UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE POTHOLE

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REPAIR ACTIVITY DOES FLUCTUATE SEASONALLY. UM, AGAIN. >> YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT YOU COULD SEE 2026. UM. >> TRENDS ARE IN LINE WITH OTHER YEARS. SO OUT OF ALL THE POTHOLE CASES

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OPEN SO FAR IN 2026, 74% HAVE BEEN CLOSED BY THE DISTRICT. UM. >> 77% OF THOSE HAVE GONE TO OUR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION UNIT. AND THAT IS THE. TEAM THAT WORKS SPECIFICALLY WITH OUR UTILITY PARTNERS, UH.

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TO ADDRESS DEFECTS AROUND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN THE REMAINING UH, 19%, UH, GO TO NORMAN AND HIS TEAM. UH. >> BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF, YOU KNOW, PART OF ROADWAYS THAT ARE GOING TO BE. >> EITHER.

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RECONSTRUCTED OR RESURFACING RESURFACED, UH, AGAIN. BUT THAT SAID, WE YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS ADDRESS SOMETHING TEMPORARILY UNTIL UNTIL THAT WORK HAPPENS. SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED

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EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. WITHIN WITHIN THE PUBLIC WAY. UH, UTILITY. COMPANIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE. UM. >> YOU KNOW, MANY REPORTED

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POTHOLES ARE IN FACT DEFECTS AROUND UTILITY CUTS AND CASTINGS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. UM. >> WE DO REFER THESE DIRECTLY TO THE UTILITY COMPANIES. UM, YOU KNOW, WE. REGULARLY INSPECT THESE LOCATIONS.

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UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART HELPING WITH THIS WORK. SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WELCOME UH ANY QUESTIONS UM, THAT YOU MAY HAVE. UH, WE HAVE WE HAVE OUR SUBJECT

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MATTER EXPERTS HERE FROM THE. TEAM WHO CAN CAN HELP US. UH. >> ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> CHIEF. I'M GOING TO GIVE UM, EACH COUNCIL UH, MAYBE EIGHT MINUTES

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AND THEN I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST, JOHN AND THEN I'LL GO AFTER YOU. MAYBE OTHER COUNSELORS MIGHT BE HERE. UM, BUT I'LL I'LL GIVE US EIGHT MINUTES IN A WAY IF WE HAVE TO GO TO A SECOND AND WE'LL DO A SECOND ROUND. YEP. >> SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.

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UH THANK YOU CHAIR. AND AGAIN THANK YOU PANEL UH, FOR BEING HERE. I WILL START ONLY BECAUSE, UH, I'M SURE THERE'S ALL OF US, UH, COMING INTO WORK EVERY DAY AND LEAVING JUST LOOKING AT THE,

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UH, THE TIMELINE FOR STATE CONGRESS, UH, AND THE WEAVING IN AND OUT OF THAT LAND MINE FIELD OF UTILITIES. UH, THAT ALSO SEEM PRETTY OLD TO A LOT OF THEM. I'VE SEEN SOME SOME BROKEN ONES AND I KNOW THAT'S ON THE

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UTILITY COMPANIES. UM, BUT THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING A RIGHT ON A CONGRESS EVERY DAY OUT OF THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, LIKE OH BOY, LET'S LET'S GO. RIGHT. UH, WHAT'S WHAT DO WE GOT FOR THE TIMELINE THAT. UH, SO CONGRESS STREET UH, WAS

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WAS MILLED. UH. >> THAT WAS. EARLY LAST WEEK. UM, AND SO. UM. >> YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF STREETS DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW THAT. WE'VE MILLED THAT WE'RE WORKING. >> TO COMPLETE RESURFACE, PUT DOWN FRESH PAVEMENT.

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MARKINGS IN ADVANCE OF THE FIRST FIFA MATCH AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS. >> THIS SUMMER. SO YOU KNOW, WE PRIORITIZE CONGRESS STATE A BUNCH. >> OF THESE OTHER STREETS. UH, SURFACE ATLANTIC. SO. UM, I THINK. >> THE FIRST PAVEMENT GOING DOWN I BELIEVE WHAT SUNDAY

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NIGHT OR MONDAY WHEN I'M SAYING YEAH, SUNDAY NIGHT. UH, WEATHER PERMITTING. SO. UM. >> ALL THIS STUFF DOWNTOWN THAT YOU'VE SEEN MILLED THE CASTING WORK IS IS DONE. PAVEMENT WILL, WEATHER PERMITTING, WILL START. GOING DOWN, UM, THIS WEEKEND.

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AND FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT CASTING WORK MEANS. SO IF YOU'VE GOT, UM, A UTILITY ,YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT EITHER, UH, MANHOLE. OR YOU'VE GOT A WATER BOX UM,

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SOMETHING IN THE ROADWAY THAT CASTING SITS UP. AND SO WHEN WHATEVER WE'RE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK. >> YOU. KNOW, IF THAT CASTING WHATEVER IT. >> IS IT. NEEDS TO BE RESET, REPAIRED, REPLACED. UM. >> YOU'LL OFTEN SEE LIKE IF YOU'RE OUT ON CONGRESS TODAY.

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>> YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN. MOUNDED AROUND THE CASTING BECAUSE YOU WANT. >> TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT. SET. >> WELL RIGHT BEFORE YOU GO IN AND PUT DOWN THAT FIRST. BINDER COAT. UM, FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE UH

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,EARLIER THIS YEAR OR MAYBE IT WAS IN THE FALL. UH, DEPOSIT AVE WAS MILLED. UM, AND IT LOOKS GREAT NOW. UH, BUT THE TIME I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE TIME DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN WHAT IT

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IS. YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A MILLED INTO WHEN IT IS PAVED SOMETIMES IS A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO UM. YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS EVERY DAY MYSELF INCLUDED JUST LIKE OH, IN CONGRESS WE'RE DODGING AND WEAVING AND FOR THE MOST TIME

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WE'RE DOING OKAY. UM, AND THEN ONE DAY SNIPER BOOM BOOM TWO TIRES RIGHT RIGHT OVER IT. UH. YOU KNOW THAT PROBABLY LOOKING AT MY PHONE WHILE I'M DRIVING DOING THINGS I SHOULDN'T BE BUT

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UM AND SO I WENT OH MAN. AND YOU KNOW, GOSH, I WAS RIGHT NEXT TO HANNIBAL'S AUTO REPAIR. THANKFULLY IT WAS ABLE TO PULL IN, UH, GET IT REPAIRED. WHAT IS THE, UM WHAT IS THE THE

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TYPICAL TIMELINE BETWEEN WHEN SOMETHING IS MILLED TO WHEN IT IS PAVED? UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND YOU GOT TO LIVE THROUGH THIS STUFF TO TO DO IT. BUT THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO LONG YOU CAN DO IT

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BEFORE IT'S GOING TO GET YOU RIGHT LIKE IT DID TO ME. AND SO, UM, JUST WHAT WHAT IS THAT TYPICAL TIMELINE? YEAH. >> WELL, WHEN I I'LL LET NORMAN NORMAN ANSWER THAT. SO TYPICALLY WITH THAT UM, WE'RE DOING. SORT OF THERE'S THREE PHASES TO

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THIS RIGHT. THERE'S A MILLION FACTOR WHERE WHEN WE TAKE OUT TWO INCHES A MILLION WE WRITE IT DOWN, THEN WE HAVE TO RESET THE CASTINGS AND THAT'S THE PROCESS WITH THAT. THEN ONCE WE SET THE CASTING

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THEN WE DO THE OVERLAY UM WITH THAT PROCESS INSIDE THE EIGHT DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH OF STREET. SO THE STREETS WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE THE DOWNTOWN AREA DEPOSIT DEPARTURE STREETS SO FORTH STREETS IN A LARGE LIKE THAT IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE AS YOU SAID

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THERE'S A LOT OF CASTINGS OUT THERE. SO IT'S A LOT OF REPAIRS TO TO FIX OF COURSE. IF THE CASTINGS AREN'T FIXED THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE TILTING AND YOU GET THE UNLEVEL SURFACES SO YOU WANT TO LEVEL THOSE OFF.

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SO THE MORE CAST THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE THAT TAKES MORE TIME TO GET THOSE. COMPLETED TO THEN DO THE RESURFACING. GOTCHA. >> AND IS IT ON THE UTILITIES TO RESET THEIR CASTINGS. OR DOES THAT WORK THAT THE CITY DOES? DID YOU UTILITY SAID SOME

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CASTINGS UM SOME CASTING SUPPLIES SOME UTILITIES AND THE CONSTRUCTION CREW THAT'S WORKING OUT TO SET UP. UH IS THAT TYPICAL THE LONGEST TIME FRAME OF THAT OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS? YES. >> SO USUALLY WITH THAT IS IT. >> ON THE UTILITY COMPANIES? >> YEAH.

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DO YOU HAVE THE TIME INSIDE THAT WAS LIKE YOU KNOW USUALLY IS IS THREE PHASES LIKE THREE DIFFERENT PHASES LIKE WITHIN A WEEK RIGHT. YEAH BUT BUT WITH WITH THE TIMING THE LENGTH OF STREETS THAT'S A LONGER TERM THAT WAS JUST MORE CASTINGS MORE PRODUCT

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YOU HAVE TO PUT DOWN. UM ALSO CONSIDERING THE TIME OF DAY WHERE WHERE WE'RE WORKING RIGHT WE'RE RESTRICTED TO NIGHTS FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA . SOMETIMES IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS MORE DAYS. UM AND THEN IT CAUSES SO MUCH

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CONFUSION OR ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC FLOW. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP A A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE TO ALLOW CAUSE TO BE THERE TO TRAVERSE TO THE AS WE'RE DOING. AND I WAS TOLD YOU KNOW, I'LL

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REACH OUT TO THE CITY FOR UH REIMBURSEMENT. UH AND SO I TRIED THAT RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S A HEFTY PRICE AND THEY UH THEY SAID YEAH, I NEVER HEARD OF YOU AND I SAID THAT'S FINE. MOST PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING

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HAVEN'T AND THEY SAID UH WE UH YOU'RE DENIED RIGHT? AND I SAID OKAY FAIR ENOUGH. LIKE RIGHT NOW NOT GOING TO FIGHT CITY HALL ON THIS ONE. AND UH I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT IS THE.

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LEVEL OF TO WHICH SOMEONE IS REIMBURSED FOR WHICH THEY WHICH THEY AREN'T. JUST FOR THE EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. LIKE OKAY, I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE RIGHT I CAN CALL CITY HALL AN APPEAL TO HAVE A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE DAMAGE

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DONE. OR WHY WHY NOT? YEAH NO GREAT GREAT QUESTION COUNSELOR. YOU KNOW, THE UH ESSENTIALLY THE APPEALS PROCESS IS RUN. THROUGH UM. THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND YOU

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KNOW, EVERY EVERY APPEAL UM, IS UH YOU KNOW, A REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT. IS DEALT WITH ON A. >> ON A CASE BY. >> CASE. BASIS DEPENDING UPON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE. CIRCUMSTANCES OF. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE. DAMAGE WAS AND WHAT. >> THE AND WHAT THE ROADWAY CONDITION.

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I'M SORRY I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES. >> NO NO NO THAT'S THAT'S FINE BUT IS THIS ABOUT HE SAID SOMETHING IT WAS PROPERLY NOTIFY IT'S PROBABLY SIGNED AND NOTIFIED AND THEREFORE YOU KNOW INDEMNIFY US UH THE CITY SO TO SPEAK.

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AND IS THAT SO? AS LONG AS THE RIGHT SIGNAGE IS UP, NO MATTER HOW LONG THE ROAD IS IS MILLED UH OR NOT REPAVED AT THE MOMENT, NO. MATTER HOW LONG AS LONG AS SIGNAGE IS UP I THINK THAT IS THE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.

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DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? CORRECT. >> AND AND. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP. THIS IS. YOU KNOW. WE ALWAYS ASK THAT PEOPLE SLOW TO SLOW. >> DOWN AROUND ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION OBVIOUSLY BUT. PARTICULARLY WHEN OUR ROADWAY

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IS MILLED WE'VE REALLY REALLY. ASK PEOPLE TO TO SLOW DOWN UM YOU KNOW NOT JUST. >> FOR. DAMAGE TO THEIR VEHICLE BUT UH ,YOU KNOW. WITHOUT PAVEMENT MARKINGS. RIGHT. >> THE ROADWAY CAN BE CONFUSING, PARTICULARLY IF IT'S NOT. >> A. STREET THAT YOU TRAVEL EVERY

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DAY. SO, YOU KNOW. >> WE. REALLY DO. ASK PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN. UH, WHEN WE'RE DOING MILLING WORK. I AGREE WITH THAT. UM, LASTLY, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE REPORTING. UH. >> POTHOLES WHEN THEY SEE THEM

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UH, TYPICALLY LEGAL 2311. ARE YOU GUYS DOING ANYTHING TO SORT OF UPDATE THAT OR ADD OTHER NEW THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT? UM. >> UH AND YOU CAN TEACH US ABOUT THAT PROCESS THAT'S GOING ON AND MAYBE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPROVE IT.

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SURE. >> UH, AND I'M GONNA I'LL LET. KIND OF DANNY. ANSWER THE SECOND. >> HALF BUT UM YEAH. SO YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS HAD THE 311 SYSTEM FOR FOR A LONG TIME. WE ARE UH. >> THERE IS A LARGER EFFORT ONGOING RIGHT. NOW, UM, TO.

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>> KIND OF UPDATE AND UPGRADE THAT SYSTEM. UM, BUT YOU. KNOW. >> 70% OF THE 311 REQUESTS THAT. COME IN IN THE CITY COME INTO PUBLIC WORKS. SO AND. YOU KNOW, IT IS A TOOL. THAT WE RELY ON NOT ONLY FOR

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HOW WE MANAGE AND DISPATCH OUR WORK. BUT IT'S ALSO. YOU KNOW, OUR. THE BASIS. >> OF OUR KIND OF. RELATIONSHIP AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WITH WITH YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE.

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RIGHT? >> THEY TRUST THE SYSTEM. >> THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THERE IT'S GOING. >> TO GET ADDRESSED. UH, AND YOU KNOW, POTHOLES IT'S ONE OF. >> THOSE. EXAMPLES BUT I'LL I'LL. LET DANNY. >> KIND OF ANSWER SOME OF THE MORE SPECIFICS OF THAT WORK. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

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THANKS, COUNCILOR. SO 311 LIKE THE BACK OPERATING THE BACK OFFICE OPERATING. SYSTEM EXCUSE ME HAS BEEN AROUND UM. JUST SINCE THE. THE TIME THE RED SOX WON THE WORLD SERIES IN 2004.

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SO IT'S. AGING UM, IT'S LIMITED IN WHAT IT CAN DO BUT IT IS EFFECTIVE. UM, WE'VE WE'VE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO IT AND WORKED WITH IT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE SOME

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2620 YEARS LATER, 22 YEARS LATER, UM, THE ADVANCEMENTS MADE IN TECHNOLOGY UH, IN COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING IS HAS GROWN, YOU KNOW, 100 FOLD. SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW.

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UM, NORMAN, MY TEAM AND NORMAN'S TEAM OF FIGURING OUT. THE THE. PROCESS MAPPING HOW WE'RE. GOING TO HANDLE THESE CASES GOING FORWARD. UM. SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS OUR STREET LIGHTING. DEPARTMENT AND ACTUALLY PARKS DEPARTMENT HAVE ALREADY. >> KIND OF MOVED OVER TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND THEY'RE SEEING

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GREAT RESULTS. UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. WHERE YOU. >> KNOW, HAVING MEETINGS ALMOST DAILY NOW. WITH UM. DO IT. >> AND THE. ANALYSTS UP THERE. >> AND THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE WELL THE PAST. YEAR TO. >> REALLY DIVE IN WITH. >> OUR. CREWS TAKE RIDES OUR YOU. >> KNOW, HOURS. WITH OUR PATCH CREWS.

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AND OUR SUPERVISORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR WHAT WE DO AND MAKING THE SYSTEM FIT TO WHAT WE NEED. WHEREAS WE KIND OF MADE. UM WHAT WE DO WE MADE IT TO KIND OF FIT TO WHAT DID PULL

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THROUGH ON ONE SYSTEM AND SO 311 IS STILL THE BEST WAY. UM. >> YOU KNOW A PICTURE. YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CLOSE UP PICTURE BUT JUST SO WE CAN GET KIND OF UM. PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE IT IS AND, YOU KNOW. CORRECT ADDRESSES PEOPLE YOU

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KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES FOLKS GET CONFUSED BECAUSE THE GPS ON THEIR. PHONE IF THEY'RE CREATING WITH THE. PHONE COULD BE OFF AS MUCH AS LIKE 100 YARDS. AND SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN A CITY RIGHT IN THE NORTH END THAT COULD BE THREE STREETS.

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ALL RIGHT. SO UM. THE NEW SYSTEM THERE'S SOME THINGS TO ADDRESS THAT INCLUDING CONTACT DETAILS. WE'RE NOT. TRACKING YOU TO CHARGE YOU YOU. >> KNOW LATER. UM, WE JUST WANT A CONTACT, SO HEY. I'M OUT I'M. >> HERE AT YOUR CASE.

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I DON'T SEE IT. COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME MORE PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE IT IS SO JUST OPENS UP THE COMMUNICATION. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW SYSTEM GOING FORWARD. UM. >> WILL BE. >> BETTER INTERNALLY THE WAY WE HANDLE CASES AND PAST CASES OFF BACK AND FORTH RIGHT.

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SO A LOT OF TIMES A CASE WILL COME IN HIGHWAY CREWS WILL GO OUT, THEY'LL PUT A SMALL BAND-AID ON IT. UM KNOWING THAT RIGHT THIS THIS IS THIS NEEDS TO BE. A IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE WE NEED YOU KNOW, IT MEANS MORE WORK.

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THEY REFER TO NORMAN'S ENGINEERING TEAM. AND THEN THEY INCLUDE IT IN A PART OF A PROGRAM GOING FORWARD. SO IT'S MAKING THAT COMMUNICATION WAY MORE EASY. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR I LOVE THE

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EFFICIENCY. UH, NORMAN DANNY, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO. AND NICK UH, I DON'T KNOW UH, IF PEOPLE TELL YOU ENOUGH BUT YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB UH, IN THE INTERIM.

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AND SO, UH, PLEASE KEEP IT UP. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. JEFF. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AGAIN. WANT TO REMIND ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

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TESTIFY THERE'S A SIGN IN SHEET RIGHT NEAR THE DOOR ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIGN YOUR NAME, UM, AND WE'LL CALL YOU, UM, PROBABLY RIGHT AFTER

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ME AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC TESTIMONY IF THERE IS PUBLIC TESTIMONY. UM, BUT AGAIN, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY, UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION.

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UM, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD. UM, CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED IT BEGINNING THAT. WORK CREWS. GO IN THE MORNING TO HYDE PARK

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TO GET, UM, ASPHALT. OKAY, SO TELL ME ABOUT THAT PROCESS. WHAT DID THEY WHAT DID THEY GET THERE AND HOW DID THEY PICK IT UP? HOW DO THEY DISTRIBUTE. TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER LOCATIONS?

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SURE. >> THANKS, COUNSELOR. YEAH. SO THAT IS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S. >> THE CLOSEST PLACE FOR US TO PICK UP. UM, UM, AGGREGATE IN THE MORNING. SO YOU KNOW, THE CREWS ARE DISPATCHED FROM THE RESPECTIVE DISTRICT.

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DISTRICT GUARD. UH, CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 4 MAN. CREW, RIGHT? >> A COUPLE TRUCKS. THEY'RE GOING TO. >> THEY'RE GOING TO BASE THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT THEY. PICK UP RIGHT BASED ON. >> THE ON THE WORK PLAN FOR THE DAY. THEY GET LOADED AT THE PLANT. UH, THERE'S GENERALLY A LOT OF.

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>> OTHER PEOPLE THEY'RE GETTING GETTING. MIX FOR THE DAY AS WELL NOT JUST FOR POTHOLES BUT YOU KNOW . MAYBE PARTICULARLY DURING RESURFACING SEASON. RIGHT. >> UM SO THEY GO AND THEN FROM THERE THEY GO TO THEIR MAP OF LOCATIONS.

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UM AND. AGAIN YOU KNOW THERE THEY MAY GO WITH YOU KNOW, 2311 CASES BUT IF THEY SHOW UP AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK. UH, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THOSE THOSE REPAIRS WHILE THEY'RE THERE. OKAY.

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>> IF A RESIDENT AND I USE THIS OPPORTUNITY OFTEN ESPECIALLY FOR SENIORS THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION, THEY MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE

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311 SYSTEM. BUT IF A RESIDENT IS NOT USING THE 311 SYSTEM AND THEY WANT TO CALL IN A POTHOLE, UH, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. OH ABSOLUTELY. YEAH THEY CAN CALL EMAIL.

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YES OKAY. WHAT PHONE NUMBER WOULD THEY USE? WE'D STILL ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE THE 311 LINE THAT'S STAFFED YOU. KNOW UM 24. SEVEN BUT THAT SAID YOU KNOW WE

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HAVE WE HAVE FOLKS WHO CONTACT EITHER THE. BTV OR PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE. WE HAVE PEOPLE DROP IN SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE HERE MAYBE PAYING A. PARKING TICKET OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO UH. YEAH WE WE'RE WELCOME AND

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ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE 311 BUT. UM YOU. KNOW IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING A PHONE CONVERSATION. WE WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT OKAY.

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AND IF. IF THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS OUT DOING POTHOLES UH, THAT SOMEONE CALLED IN AND THERE'S SAY THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS IN AND

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AROUND THE AREA MAYBE MAYBE A STREET OVER. TELL ME ABOUT THE PROCESS OF DOES THAT HAVE TO BE IN THE 311 SYSTEM BEFORE THEY DO IT OR

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IF THEY SEE IT CAN THEY PUT CAN THEY GO AHEAD AND UH FILL IT IN? YEAH ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK YOU KNOW THE NATURE OF OF POTHOLE WORK RIGHT LIKE LIKE. FRANKLY A BUNCH OF OTHER WORK

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THAT WE DO. RIGHT THAT WORK PEOPLE SEE US WILL OFTEN PROMPT PEOPLE LIKE. >> WHOA, WELL YOU KNOW, I. >> COULD USE SOME POTHOLES HERE AND AND IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT IN IN REAL TIME RIGHT

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BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT YARDS ARE MANAGING THEIR THEIR RESPECTIVE. 311Q SO. THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE DO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TO USE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS

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THE QUICKEST WAY. >> TO GET THAT. INFORMATION TO. >> THOSE SO THOSE TEAMS SO IN SOME CASES YEAH WE MIGHT HAVE A CREW WORKING TWO STREETS OVER. THEY GET A311 CASE THEY MIGHT GET. >> THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUMP OVER THERE THAT THAT SAME DAY. CAN'T I WILL SAY THE REPORTS WE

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GET EACH DAY FROM THE. PATCH CREWS. USUALLY IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS A COUPLE PICTURES ASSOCIATED WITH IT BUT THEY'LL SAY WE YOU KNOW WE PICKED UP TWO AND A HALF TONS OF ASPHALT. WE HANDLED UH. 13 CRMS WHICH IS THE CONSTITUENT UH WHICH IS THE

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CASE GENERATED BY. 311 AND THEN THEY'LL SAY WE DID 46. >> OTHER REPAIRS. >> SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER. >> YOU KNOW SMALL POTHOLES OR LARGER POTHOLES RIGHT. WHATEVER THEY SEE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA WE TYPICALLY DON'T COUNT THEM. FOR THIS DATA.

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JUST BECAUSE IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO KIND OF GO. BACK AND. AND AND. QUANTIFY YOU. >> KNOW AS WE GO ALONG. SO WE JUST KIND OF STICK TO IT. >> FOR. THE DATA WISE. IT'S JUST 3.1 CASES BUT. AS THESE GUYS ARE OUT ON THE ROADWAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DRIVE.

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BY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. IT'S ALSO UM AS SOON AS THEY GET RID OF THE PATCH, YOU. KNOW THEY GO. >> ON BREAK SO YOU KNOW. AND IT'S AS IT. COOLS ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AND BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH. SO THEY WANT TO GET IT.

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>> OUT OF THE TRUCK. >> IT'S EASIER TO WORK WITH. >> IT'S A BETTER. UM IT'S A. BETTER REPAIR. THE WALMART IS AS THEY GO WHICH IS WHY WE ONLY GET LIKE. >> TWO. TWO AND A HALF TIMES PER DAY. SO SO WHEN WHEN THE PUBLIC

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WORKS CREW IS PUTTING DOWN SO IT'S IS IT ASPHALT THAT PUTTING DOWN CORRECT. YEAH OKAY. >> SO THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN ASPHALT ONTO THE ROAD. WHAT IS THE ROAD. IS THE ROAD ENTIRELY ASPHALT.

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YEAH BITUMINOUS. CONCRETE YEP. OKAY YES YEP. WE'LL BE A DIFFERENT. TYPE OF MIX. SO YOU. YOU'RE RESURFACING YOUR REPAVING. MIXES IS. A STURDIER MIX. THIS THE THE UM.

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THE POTHOLE KIND OF THE PATCHING MIX IS IT'S SMALLER AGGREGATE. A LITTLE BIT MORE STICKY SOMETIMES. UM TO HELP WITH THE REPAIR OKAY. YEAH THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS IS

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IT FREQUENT THAT WHEN YOU FILL A POTHOLE? UM. BECAUSE IT'S. BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENTIRELY THE SAME AS WHAT THE ROAD IS

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ALREADY UM WHAT THE ROAD IS BUT IS THERE LIKELY THE CHANCE THAT THAT POTHOLE WILL NEED TO BE REFILLED A COUPLE YEARS LATER? YEAH. >> UNFORTUNATELY AND SOMETIMES EVEN.

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SHORTER THAN THAT COUNTS. BUT AND IT REALLY DEPENDS. UPON WHAT THE UNDERLYING. ISSUE IS WITH THE DEFECT RIGHT . SO IF IT'S IF IT'S A POTHOLE THAT'S LIKE. NEXT TO. A UTILITY CASTING IN THIS.

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WATER INFILTRATION. GETTING INTO THAT MANHOLE OR. WHATEVER IT. >> IS YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY THAT CAN THAT CAN. REPEATEDLY REOPEN. UH SAME IF IT'S. UH YOU. >> KNOW IF IT'S A WASHOUT AND THERE'S WATER GETTING THROUGH THE SUBBASE THAT CAN THAT.

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CAN BE A PROBLEM. UH. AND FRANKLY AS SOME OF THE STREETS ARE JUST OLDER. UM, THE CONDITION. OF THAT SUBBASE AGGREGATE. JUST GETS TO A POINT WHERE IT.

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YOU KNOW, IT. WON'T HOLD THE MATERIAL UH, AS AS. LONG IT IS IS. THE ASPHALT THAT WE YOU USING IS THAT THE MOST EFFECTIVE UM,

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MATERIAL THAT WE THAT WE THAT'S ON THE MARKET? IT WE FIND IT THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND. EFFICIENT TO. >> TO WORK WITH UM YOU KNOW THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME OTHER METHODS AND PRODUCTS, UM.

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YOU KNOW, THAT ARE USED. >> FOR KIND OF UH REAL UNIQUE CASES. SO FOR EXAMPLE UM NEXT NEXT WEEK AS PART OF THE GREEN LINE DIVERSION OUT IN CLEVELAND CIRCLE.

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UM, YOU'VE. >> GOT THE GREEN LINE TRACK IN CLEVELAND CIRCLE THERE'S THERE'S SOME REALLY. BAD DEFECTIVE PAVEMENT AROUND THAT. INFRASTRUCTURE AND. >> THE MBTA IS GOING TO. >> BE COMING IN TAKING ADVANTAGE.

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UM OF THAT OF THAT TEMPORARY. CLOSURE UH TO. >> USE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIAL AND PROCESS. IT'S UH IT'S A THERMAL. HEATED PROCESS. UM. >> AROUND THE TRACK BED AND AND GENERALLY YOU KNOW. THAT THAT PAVEMENT UM.

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WELL THAT. YOU KNOW, REPAIR WILL HOLD A LOT LONGER THAN A. TYPICAL UM. UH, POTHOLE. OKAY. >> I'M HAVING A WALK THROUGH OF THE SOUTH THEN IN THE BACK

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BAY MOSTLY THE BACK BAY AREA NEXT FRIDAY, MAY 15TH AT 1 P.M. WE'RE STARTING AT THE MARRIOTT COPLEY THIS IS RESIDENTS REQUESTED ME TO KIND OF DO A

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WALKTHROUGH WITH THEM WHICH IS 110 HUNTINGTON AVENUE BUT WANT TO INVITE TT DE TRANSPORTATION AND DPW PUBLIC WORKS IF YOU

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WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME I BELIEVE PUBLIC UH POLICE OFFICER IS US TOO WERE JUST DISCUSSING QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES PUBLIC SAFETY UM BUT WANT TO WANT TO EXTEND THE INVITATION TO YOU

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AND THAT'S AT THE REQUEST OF I REPRESENT A SMALL PART OF THE BACK BAY DOWN TOWARDS SAINT PETE 12 STREET UM NEAR THE MARRIOTT NEAR THE UH, COPLEY AREA.

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UM. WE APPRECIATE THE INVITE, COUNCILOR. AND YES, WE. >> WILL BE OKAY. THANK YOU. >> UM, SO CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED ALREADY CONGRESS STREET AND AND STATE STREET AND I KNOW NORMAN

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IS DOING A GOOD A GOOD JOB AND I KNOW DANNY'S DOING A GOOD JOB. UM, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE I HAVE A RESIDENT A FRIEND OF MINE, SUZANNE THAT LIVES IN THE WHARF DISTRICT

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WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM UM, STATE STREET BUT ON CONGRESS STREET ITSELF AND I KNOW YOU SPOKE ABOUT IT BUT WHEN THE MANHOLE COVER IS SAY

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WHAT IS IT ABOUT 3 OR 4IN HIGHER NOW THAN LIKE THE ROAD ITSELF. RIGHT. UM BUT BUT I SEE. PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING AS JOHN WAS MENTIONED BUT I DO SEE

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PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING BECAUSE THE THE MANHOLE THEY ALMOST TAKE A SHARP LEFT OR SHARP RIGHT TO AVOID THE THE MANHOLE BUT THEY'RE NOT PUTTING THEIR BLINKER ON YOU KNOW. BECAUSE THEY.

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>> THEY SEE IT AT THE LAST SECOND AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ACCIDENTS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BUT IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GET INTO AN ACCIDENT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND YOU'RE MAKING A SHARP TO THE

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LEFT OR A SHARP TO THE RIGHT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU FACTOR IN TO? YEAH, AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE US KIND OF DO LIKE SPRAY PAINT AROUND A CASTING BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GRAB PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. BUT YOU KNOW.

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FOR EXACTLY THE REASON THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED THAT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE. TO TO. SLOW DOWN. >> YOU. KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING SLOW ENOUGH THEY. >> REALLY. SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF MOVE. BUT YOU. >> KNOW, IF SOMEBODY. >> IS IN A REALLY LOW CLEARANCE VEHICLE OR SOMETHING AND THEY.

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>> DON'T WANT TO UH HIT THAT. UM THAT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO BE. ABLE TO. UH REACT TO THAT. OKAY. >> I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME. I'M GOING TO GIVE JOHN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. BUT LET ME LET ME JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE I GO TO

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JOHN. PROBABLY MY FAVORITE. STREET IN BOSTON. UM, I LOVE STATE STREET. I'VE ALWAYS I'VE ALWAYS LOVED STATE STREET. UM LOVED THE OLD THE OLD

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BUILDINGS. UM, HOW ARE WE DOING ON STATE STREET? WHETHER IT'S POTHOLES, WHETHER IT'S JUST QUALITY OF LIFE, WHETHER IT'S UM, CLEANLINESS

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BUT I ALWAYS KIND OF THINK OF THAT STREET AS KIND OF BEING THE YOU KNOW, THE STREET OF COMMERCE. SO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AS WELL BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT LEADS UP

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TO CONGRESS AND LEADS UP TO, YOU KNOW, HEADING TOWARDS THE TREMONT STREET TOWARDS THE BOSTON COMMON IN A WAY. UM, BUT WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT UM STATE STREET?

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YEAH, COUNCIL I GUESS ONE OF THE OLDEST STREETS IN THE CITY. >> A LOT OF A LOT OF HISTORY THERE. UM WE HAVE MILLED IT FROM SURFACE ROAD UP TO UP TO COURT STREET HERE BEHIND US. UM, THAT IS SHORT TERM WORK.

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UM, THERE IS A LARGER. RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR STATE STREET. UM UM THAT IS. IS NEARING. COMPLETION OF DESIGN. UH, THAT WE. ARE LOOKING TO MOVE.

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INTO CONSTRUCTION. >> IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. UM. AS PART OF THIS RESURFACING PROJECT THIS WEEK. WE DID THIS SHORT TERM BECAUSE. THE ROADWAY. >> WAS IN REALLY POOR. CONDITION GOING INTO THE SUMMER. >> AND TO. >> YOUR POINT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT

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OF VISITORS. BUT ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT STATE STREET. IS STATE STREET, WHILE CERTAINLY CARRIES A HIGH NUMBER OF VEHICLES. ACTUALLY CARRIES MORE PEDESTRIANS EVERY DAY. UM, SO.

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IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT OF THE. VISITORS WE'RE. >> GOING TO SEE THIS SUMMER, WE WANT TO. MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROADWAY WAS IT WAS IN GOOD CONDITION. SO THIS IS A VERY TEMPORARY RESURFACING. WORK. . UM, IN ADVANCE. OF THAT. LARGER PROJECT.

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>> THAT WE WE HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD SOON. OKAY. >> UM SO I FINISHED MY QUESTIONS FOR THE FIRST ROUND. UM, I DO WANT TO TAKE ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY. .

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THAT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANYONE HAS SIGNED UP. UM. IF YOU IF. YOU'RE WATCHING ON TELEVISION YOU STILL WANT TO TESTIFY, YOU

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CAN CERTAINLY SEND US AN EMAIL AND IT WILL GET ADDED INTO THE RECORD. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT UM ALL THE COUNCIL IS RECEIVE IT. SO IF YOU DO WANT TO TESTIFY

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AND SEND IN YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS UM PLEASE DO SO YOU CAN SEND IT TO SHANE PACK. SO IT'S SHANE S H A N A DOT

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PACK PACK@BOSTON.GOV AND UM SHANE WILL MAKE SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED THE TESTIMONY BUT OTHERS ALSO CAN E-MAIL ME DIRECTLY BECAUSE I LOVE READING THESE COMMENTS

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FROM RESIDENTS. YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME DIRECTLY AT ED.FLYNN@BOSTON.GOV UM I'M GOING TO GIVE UM COUNCILOR FITZGERALD WE'LL DO

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ANOTHER EIGHT MINUTES AND UM AND I MAY THAT MIGHT BE IT. YEAH. UM COUNCILOR FITZGERALD YOU HAVE. >> THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL TAKE ALL EIGHT, BUT, UM, ONE FIRST. >> AND. FOREMOST JUST WANTED TO SHOUT

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OUT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DISTRICT THREE YARD UH, THAT IS IN WITHIN DISTRICT THREE COUNCIL WISE TWO BUT ANDRE KORNEGAY UH, RUNS A TIGHT SHIP UH AND DOES GREAT WORK OVER. THERE AND UM, ACTUALLY WHEN IT

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WAS I WASN'T EVEN UH ELECTED A WEEK AND I WENT OVER TO VISIT DID A RIDE AROUND WITH HIM UM AND IT WAS AWESOME. HE REALLY HELPED UH, HELPED ME UNDERSTAND AND SET THE. >> TONE FOR THE. IMPORTANT WORK THE CITY DOES. AND WHEN I'M UP HERE TO. ADVOCATE FOR.

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UM, TWO WE HAD SOME OF YOU GUYS IN FRONT OF US UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK FOR THE BT AND PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET AND I'M THINKING ABOUT POTHOLES SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OH MY BROUGHT UP HEY, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE MAKING

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AMENDMENTS AND YOU TOOK AWAY FROM US LAST YEAR WE RAN OUT OF MONEY TO FILL POTHOLES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT THAT THAT LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET UM AND THAT THAT HIT ME BECAUSE I'M LIKE OH

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NO RIGHT THERE JUST THE THE THE THE GRAVITY OF THE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE IN ORDER TO FILL BUT THE REALISTIC IMPACTS THAT. COME OUT OF THAT OF HEY, WE RAN OUT OF MONEY TO BUY PATCH.

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TO FILL. POTHOLES WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF THE MOST BASIC CITY SERVICES PEOPLE WANT TO SEE. UM I DON'T WANT THAT TO OCCUR AGAIN. AND SO UH, DO WE FEEL LIKE WE

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DID WE DID RUN OUT AND WHEN WE DO WHAT WHAT WHAT HAPPENS LIKE RIGHT I MEAN WHAT ARE YOU GUYS LEFT WITH BECAUSE SOME OF THE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE WHAT ARE THE HARD DECISIONS AND HOW DO YOU STRETCH WHAT YOU HAVE OR DO YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY. >> AT TIMES.

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WE CAN'T GET TO THAT POTHOLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO I CAN TAKE THAT ONE. SO YEAH. UM WHAT I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT. SO WE USE COLD. PATCH AS WELL. >> SO THE HOT ASPHALT THAT WE GO TO THE PLANT TO PICK UP. EVERY MORNING. >> YEAH. >> WE ALSO UM.

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WE'RE BUYING UH BAGS. >> OF COLD PATCH WHICH IS. >> UH. IT'S A BAG MATERIAL. >> COMES UP. YEP. >> 20 POUND BAG. UH, WE. >> USE THAT FOR LIKE OFF HOURS. >> LIKE THE C. IN THE AFTERNOON OR OVERNIGHT. A BIG POTHOLE COMES IN. >> THAT'S A PROBLEM, RIGHT? IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT A BARREL ON. >> OR A COLD UM, DEPENDING ON

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WHERE IT. IS, DEAL WITH THE OFF. OUR CREWS WILL USE THAT COLD PATCH. >> TO. FILL IT. >> IN THE PAST TEN YEARS THE TECHNOLOGY. >> THERE HAS. IMPROVED IMMENSELY. IT'S IT'S A GREAT. PRODUCT. >> HOWEVER IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE I WOULD SAY PROBABLY. A 20. >> POUND.

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BAG IS PROBABLY JUST AS MUCH AS A TON OF THE REGULAR STUFF. SO IT'S SO THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SPEAKING OF THAT WE COULDN'T WE COULDN'T. PURCHASE ANY UH ANYMORE. UM WE'VE ALWAYS HAD ACCESS TO. THE YOU KNOW, THE THE PLANT

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DASHBOARD. YEAH. >> HOW OFTEN HOW OFTEN IS THE COAL PATCH USED IN TERMS OF OR. MAYBE HOW MUCH DO YOU GO THROUGH TYPICALLY LIKE WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE YEAR NUMBER THAT WE WE BUDGET TO BUY X

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AMOUNT BUT WE COULD IF WE NEEDED IT AT ALL WE THAT WE BUY Y AMOUNT. GREAT QUESTION AND IF YOU ASK TO DARLENE LAST NIGHT SHE WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU WE USE IT WAY TOO MUCH. YEAH SHE'S THE ONE IN CHARGE OF KEEPING. TRACK OF HOW MUCH WE SPEND. SO UM IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

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>> THE GUYS LIKE THE. CONVENIENCE OF IT, CHUCK, IF. >> THEY JUST GET ONE POTHOLE TO. FRIDAY MORNING. THEY ONLY. >> HAVE ONE POTHOLE. THEY'LL SAY LET'S USE THE COLD PATCH, RIGHT? YEAH. >> AND I TRY. NOT TO. DISSUADE IT BUT. YOU KNOW, DIALING IN AND KEEPING TRACK. >> OF THE MONEY SAYS NOW NO THAT WAITS UNTIL MONDAY. >> SO UM.

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YOU KNOW THAT'S KIND OF THE THE GIVE AND TAKE ABOUT YOU KNOW. WHERE WE ARE. UNDERSTOOD. >> OKAY. IN MY PREVIOUS JOB AND TAKING CARE OF THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL PARK, UH, NAMED AFTER EDDIE'S FATHER. UM. >> WE USE COAL PATCH TO FILL THE POTHOLES ON THOSE ROADS

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OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL THE TRUCKS AND STUFF COMING. THROUGH, BUT. >> I DON'T THINK I WAS AWARE OF. UM. >> AND NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS HAD TO. >> WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY MILES OF ROADWAY OF. COURSE, IN A MARINE INDUSTRIAL PARK BUT STILL I DON'T THINK I WAS AWARE OF, UH, HOW FAR IT'S COME. >> AND HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS NOW. YEAH.

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PROBABLY BACK THEN THERE'S PROBABLY A PILE OF IT IN A YARD. SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? >> A PILE OF. COLD PACKS. >> THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO GO PUT SOME DIESEL ON AND TURN IT OVER. UM, NOW IT COMES IN A BAG. >> AND IT COMES OUT OF THE BAG. IT'S EXACTLY. >> YEAH. IT'S GREAT. YEP. GREAT. >> UM, AND THEN, UH, I'LL END WITH THIS. UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT

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MUCH TIME BECAUSE IT'S A, UH THIS IS LIKE A SPORTS TALK RADIO FRIDAY ASK ME ANYTHING. RIGHT. BUT IN A ARE WE EVER THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO BUILD

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OUR ROADS? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS CAN WE IS THERE THE TECHNOLOGY THE THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIALS ,THE UPGRADES WHERE TO GET TO

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UH THE UTILITIES TO OPEN UP THE ROAD TO REPAVE UH TO TO TO NOT HAVE POTHOLES. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE THAT'S EVEN SHOWING A GLIMPSE OF HOPE OF A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY TO CREATE A ROAD

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AND AND WHAT I GUESS WOULD BE YOUR IDEAL ROAD KNOWING THE PROBLEMS THAT THAT YOU RUN INTO EVERY DAY? WELL WE GOT TO OPEN UP WE GOT TO DIG, WE GOT TO FILL POTHOLES . UM YOU KNOW WE GOT A WE GOT A MILL.

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UM WHAT IS THE IDEAL ROAD LOOK LIKE THAT MAKES ALL THAT STUFF A LITTLE BIT EASIER, RIGHT. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. I JUST I TRY TO THROW I'D LOVE TO THROW AN EXAMPLE BUT MY EXPERTISE. UH. >> FALLS FAR SHORT.

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YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW. AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW. WE WE. >> HAVE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A CENTURY OLD IN SOME

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CASES EVEN LONGER. RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW. GETTING UH AND THERE IS A THAT THE UTILITIES ARE PUTTING A BIG INVESTMENT INTO UPGRADING THAT. INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO YOU KNOW.

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OVER TIME GETTING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. UM TO THE PLACE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU. KNOW YEAH IN A PERFECT WORLD WE WOULD. CONSTRUCT A ROADWAY. >> AND. IN CONCRETE WITH WITH. PERFECT DRAINAGE.

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AND UM, YOU KNOW WITH YOU KNOW IT. BUT THAT UNFORTUNATELY ISN'T YOU KNOW, UH, REALISTIC HERE. UM, BUT. YOU KNOW. I WILL SAY EVERY TIME. RIGHT? >> AND PARTICULARLY NOW BECAUSE WE'RE INVESTING SO MUCH.

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IN RAMPS. RIGHT. >> UM. WE ARE AS WE'RE DOING EVEN ROADWAY RESURFACING NOT FOR FULL RECONSTRUCTION. THESE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE'RE DOING RAMPS GIVES US THAT EXTRA

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. ABILITY TO ADDRESS LIKE. IF YOU'VE GOT. A DEFECT WHERE YOU'VE GOT PUDDLING NEAR AN INTERSECTION OR A CROSSWALK, RIGHT. WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF. THAT NOW, UM.

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TO KIND OF IMPROVE THAT ROADWAY . CONDITION UH. FOR THE FUTURE. GREAT. >> SO CONCRETE WOULD BE THE IDEAL I'M JUST RIGHT. IS THAT THE MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE THE BEST AT THIS. >> MOMENT GIVEN RIGHT WHAT. WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE A CONCRETE ROAD WOULD BE THE BEST.

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BUT FRANKLY, I MEAN NOT IT JUST LIKE COST PROHIBITIVE. YEAH. >> NO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPOSSIBLE. BUT ALSO YOU KNOW IN NORTHEAST CLIMATES COLD WEATHER CLIMATES HAS ITS OWN. UH, MAINTENANCE CHALLENGES IN THE WINTER. YEAH. SO YOU.

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>> KNOW, NOT JUST NOT UNFORTUNATELY THE IDEAL. AGGREGATE FOR HERE. AWESOME THOUGH. >> UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. UH, JEFF ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU GUYS AS ALWAYS FOR ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCILOR FITZGERALD I ALSO WANT TO GIVE MYSELF EIGHT MINUTES AS WELL. UM CHIEF I'M GOING TO ASK A COUPLE I'M GOING TO ASK SOME RANDOM QUESTIONS THAT

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CONSTITUENTS UM THEY ASKED ME BUT. THIS BUT BUT ON THE FEDERAL DECREE SO THE AND THIS HAS BEEN

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THIS HAS BEEN MUCH BEFORE YOUR TIME IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SOMEWHAT 7 OR 8 YEARS OR SO BUT ARE WE ARE WE REQUIRED TO PUT THE RAMP.

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FOR FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN A WHEELCHAIR? ARE WE REQUIRED TO PUT THE RAMP INSIDE THE CROSSWALK? IS THAT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. YES. >> UH THE.

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BUT I WILL SAY. UM THE. ACTUAL LOCATION IN GRADE OF EVERY RAMP. IS DIFFERENT RIGHT. DEPENDING UPON. >> WHERE IT. FALLS EITHER AT, YOU KNOW, A.

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MID-BLOCK CROSSING. OR AN INTERSECTION. SO WHAT MAKES WHAT MAKES THIS WORK SO. CHALLENGING IS YOU KNOW. THERE ISN'T A THERE ISN'T A RAMP. TEMPLATE, RIGHT?

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EVERY SINGLE RAMP. THAT WE REBUILT IS IT'S A HOME MINI DESIGN RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE YOU KNOW THE GRADES HAVE TO BE SHOT. WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW. >> MAKE SURE. >> IT GETS. POURED CORRECTLY.

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UM SO THAT IS THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS UH WORK SO TIME CONSUMING BUT. ALSO EXPENSIVE. OKAY. >> AND I'M GOING TO BOUNCE AROUND FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE BUT

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IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER BUT SO IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN A STREET AND THERE'S THE STREET IS IS IS IS GOING DOWNHILL UM

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IN A KIND OF IN KIND OF LEVELS OUT AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF WATER MAY END UP. DOES THAT WATER HAVE AN IMPACT ON OPENING UP POTHOLES?

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YES, ABSOLUTELY. IF THERE IS NOT APPROPRIATE UH STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO CAPTURE. THAT AND REMOVE IT, UM. THAT EXAMPLE OF POOLING WATER CERTAINLY.

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>> AT THE BASE OF A HILL. IS IS A. SIGNIFICANT UM CONTRIBUTOR TO TO THESE TYPES OF ROADWAY DEFECTS. OKAY. AND AND SO I ASSUME PART OF THE

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PROCESS OF PART OF THE SOLUTION IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT. YES. >> YEAH THEY ARE ONE THEY ARE ONE OF THE UTILITIES THAT. >> YEAH WE. WORK VERY CLOSELY. WITH UH WHEN WE'RE DOING. >> BOTH RESURFACING AND WHEN WE'RE DOING.

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YOU KNOW, FULL DEPTH RECONSTRUCTION OF A. ROADWAY THAT IS WHEN WE'RE OFTEN TRYING TO. >> TAKE ADVANTAGE. OF OF YOU KNOW. IF IF STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. >> TO BE. RELOCATED MAYBE TO CAPTURE

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WATER BETTER THAT'S DOES THE EXACT TYPE OF. IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE OKAY. YOU KNOW THAT I REPRESENT CHINATOWN IN CHINATOWN IS VERY

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DENSE NEIGHBORHOOD UM OLD NEIGHBORHOOD OLD WATER AND SEWER PIPES AS YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE OF THE OLDEST IN THE CITY. WE HAVE CHALLENGES WITH THE

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WITH THE PIPES, UH, RUPTURING. BUT WHEN THE WHEN THERE IS A UM A WATER MAIN BREAK SO SAY IN CHINATOWN, UM, THE WATER AND

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SEWER CREW HAS TO COME IN. UM AND FIX IT BUT THEN TELL ME WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS IN TERMS OF PUBLIC WORKS WORKING WITH WATER AND SEWER, YOU KNOW,

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AS IT. RELATES TO ADDRESSING POTHOLES AND UH, FIXING THE STREET. SURE. >> AND UH, YOU KNOW, COUNCILORS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF WATER. BREAKS UM, THIS YEAR AND YOU.

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KNOW, BOSTON WATER SEWER WHEN WHEN WHEN WE HAVE A WATER MAIN BREAK. YOU KNOW. THEY HAVE KIND OF SITE CONTROL. THEY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. UH, THEY DO A GREAT. JOB AT THIS. >> THEY ALWAYS. >> THEY'RE IN CLOSE. COMMUNICATION WITH US. LETTING US.

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>> KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT SCHEDULE WISE. PLAN FOR REPAIR. WE COORDINATE THAT WORK WITH THEM. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR BASICALLY ESSENTIALLY RESTORING.

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UM, THE ROADWAY TO, YOU KNOW. UH. >> PREVIOUS CONDITION. BUT OBVIOUSLY. YOU KNOW. WHEN WE HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE LIKE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND ASSESS THAT. YOU KNOW, AFTER THE EVENT AND

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YOU KNOW. THAT THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW A ROAD MAY GET WILL BE PRIORITIZED UPON. ON THE RESURFACING. >> LIST. IF WE'VE. >> HAD A. >> HAD AN. >> ISSUE LIKE THAT. OKAY SO SO IF THAT IF THAT

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TAKES PLACE THAT SO WATER BUT PUBLIC WORKS WOULD COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE AT THE ROAD OR THE STREET AND SEE UM IF THERE'S ANY POTHOLES IN IN AND

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AROUND THE STREET BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THE UH ROAD WORKS AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED TO IT PRIOR TO THE WATER MAIN BREAK. SO YEAH. YES. >> AND AS YOU KNOW YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME WATER MAINS THIS YEAR THAT HAVEN'T.

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JUST IMPACTED ROADWAY CONDITIONS. >> THAT. BUCKLED SIDEWALK AND PUSHED CURB UP. SO YEAH WE'RE WE'LL YOU KNOW WE GO IN AND EVALUATE ALL OF THEM .

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OKAY OKAY UM LET ME LET ME CONTINUE. AND THIS IS A RESIDENT RESIDENT DORCHESTER.

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UM I THINK JOHN MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS IN THE STRETCH OF DORCHESTER AVENUE WE RESURFACED FROM FREEPORT 3 TO 7 HILL AVENUE.

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UM, HAS AN HAD NEEDS SOME WORK . IS THAT WAS THAT ON YOUR LIST OF THAT AREA? IT'S, UH I DON'T REPRESENT IT, BUT I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM. WHAT WAS THE STREET AGAIN? >> IT'S, UM THE STRETCH

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OF DORCHESTER AVENUE FROM FREEPORT STREET TO SEVEN HILL AVENUE. YEAH. >> SO SO THAT CAR DOOR RIGHT NOW WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED BY DOING IT WE'RE DOING THE RAMP TO THAT LOCATION RIGHT NOW UH, UP THE CORRIDOR THERE FROM 70 LAP ALL THE WAY UP TO FREEPORT

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I ACTUALLY WHERE OUR FREEPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW. OKAY. CONSTRUCTING RAMPS UH, ONCE THE RAMPS THEN UM WE THEN STARTED TO SCHEDULE TO DO A RESURFACING . OKAY, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE

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BOOKS TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE RESURFACING FOR THIS YEAR FOR THAT PARTICULAR SECTION. OKAY. >> THANK YOU NORMA. AND THAT WAS FROM DONNA FROM DORCHESTER. UM.

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UM A CONSTITUENT OF MINE REDESIGN OF WASHINGTON STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN CHINATOWN STRETCH. ANY UPDATES OR INSIGHTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UM, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT?

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UM, WHAT? WASHINGTON STREET IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON AND INTO CHINATOWN. SO WASHINGTON STREET SO WE'RE WE'RE ASKING MAYBE RESURFACING WASHINGTON STREET FROM NEILAN

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UP TO LAFAYETTE UH, THIS YEAR UM, IT'S GOT TO GO IN KIND OF LIKE THAT WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW A LITTLE BIT OF CONFIGURATION CHANGES INSIDE THE NIGHT CONFIGURATIONS MORE CHANGES TO MAKE MORE PERMANENT FIXES ON IT WHERE THE THE FLEX

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POSTERS ARE AND WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF UM UH UPGRADING ON THAT BUT AS FAR AS RESURFACING WE'RE COMING RIGHT UP WASHINGTON STREET AND AND UM RESURFACING THAT WE DID ESSEX STREET LAST YEAR.

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YEAH AND. COMPLETING THROUGH AS WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR CHINATOWN BEACH AND HARRISON RIGHT. WE JUST MILLED OUR BEACH STREET UH LAST NIGHT. OKAY. ON A BEACH ON A BEACH IN

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CHINATOWN. YEAH. >> BEACH AND CHINATOWN FROM UH FROM HARRISON TO WASHINGTON. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THE OTHER PIECE FROM UH TO UH, TYLER TO TO HARRISON AND AS WELL AS HARRISON. OKAY. >> NO, THAT'S THAT'S EXCELLENT

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THE ECONOMIC THE THE EXCUSE FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE IN CHINATOWN OFTEN ASK ME AND OF OF OF REQUESTERS BUT THE THE UM SIDEWALKS ON BEACH STREET ARE

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IN ROUGH SHAPE UM THAT THEY DID THE SIDEWALKS ON BEACH STREET AND THE LEATHER DISTRICT WHICH IS JUST OVER JUST OVER THE WAYS BUT NOT NOT CHINATOWN BUT. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT,

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CHIEF? UM, IN TERMS OF BEACH STREET SIDEWALKS? YEAH. >> I THINK WE WE CERTAINLY HAVE SOME SHORT TERM, UM, SIDEWALK. REPAIRS IN. >> A FEW LOCATIONS IN CHINATOWN. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'RE ALSO. UM, PLANNING.

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>> TO KICK. OFF UH, A LONGER, UM. A LARGER AND LONGER PLANNING EFFORT. ON HOW TO UPGRADE, UM, ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS IN CHINATOWN

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AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING. >> THAT WILL. >> BE OUT. YOU KNOW. >> TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT LATER THIS YEAR. OKAY. >> OKAY. I RECEIVED A REQUEST UH, A QUESTION REALLY FROM DAVID.

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HE BASICALLY ASKED ME UM OR HE SUGGESTED, UM, TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN UTILITY COMPANIES OR ANY ENTITY THAT DIGS UP THE STREET THEY MUST

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REPAVE AT LEAST 50FT IN EITHER DIRECTION OF WHAT WAS DUG UP. HE'S IN THE SAME LEVEL OF QUALITY AS THE CITY DOES WHEN IT REPAVE THE STREETS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

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YEAH, I MEAN WE YOU. >> KNOW. WHAT WE REQUIRE THE UTILITY. >> TO. DO VARIES KIND OF ON. >> A CASE. BY CASE BASIS. BUT YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE IF THEY'VE HAD TO. YOU KNOW, GO IN. >> AND EXCAVATE SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSED LIKE SIGNIFICANT.

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DAMAGE TO UH YOU KNOW, LIKE MORE THAN 50% OF THE ROADWAY SEGMENT. YEAH. WELL WE'LL GO IN AND. >> MAKE THEM. RESURFACE, CURB THE CURB. OKAY. >> UM AND AGAIN I HAVE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTION TELL

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US AGAIN, UM, FOR THE AUDIENCE WHEN THEY SEE A POTHOLE TELL US THE PROCEDURE FOR UM GETTING THE BEST, UM MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET IT DONE. WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR

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RESIDENTS TO, UM, TO DO THAT. EITHER 311 IS THE BEST WAY CALL APP EMAIL WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO CONTACT. EITHER THE PUBLIC. WORKS OFFICE. OR OUR TRANSPORTATION OFFICE.

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UPSTAIRS AS WELL. SO IF SOMEONE PUTS IN 8311 INTO THE APP ABOUT A PARTICULAR ADDRESS ADDRESS UM HOW FAST WOULD THAT GET FILLED?

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OUR AVERAGE UH CASE. CLOSURE TIME IS IS 18. >> HOURS. RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. UM BUT. IN SOME CASES YOU KNOW BUT BUT AS I MENTIONED, I THINK TWO THIRDS OF ALL CASES ARE DONE UM

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,WITHIN 24 HOURS. SO IT IS YOU KNOW, GENERALLY A POTHOLE IS GOING TO GET DONE WITHIN A DAY OR TWO UH, AT MOST. OKAY. >> AND IF IT'S LONGER THAN THAT

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,IS THERE SOMETHING THAT POPS UP ON YOUR SYSTEM THAT THAT SAYS IT HASN'T BEEN DONE AND WE NEED TO GET IT DONE? IS THAT HOW IT IS? YEAH. >> AND CURRENTLY AS I SIT IN THE QUEUE COUNCILOR I. >> DO THE GREEN IF IT'S UNDER THE SLA WHICH IS KIND OF THE

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INTERNAL. SHOT CLOCK. THAT WE HAVE TO FIX IT RIGHT NOW FOR. A IT'S JUST A SERVICE. LEVEL AGREEMENT FOR SOCCER. UH RIGHT NOW SO UH. YOU KNOW. IT'S 24 HOURS FOR A STANDARD

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POTHOLE FOR US TO GET IT DONE. UM, AND IT'LL BE A LITTLE GREEN ICON NEXT TO IT. ONCE IT GOES OVER THAT SLA, IT TURNED IT TURNED RED. SO AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR LIST, YOU KNOW, WHICH MIGHT HAVE YOU KNOW, 12 CASES.

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THEY WORK BACKWARDS TO TRY TO GET THE RED. ONES FIRST OBVIOUSLY. OKAY. UM, MAYBE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS. UM, CHIEF, I JUST HAD A SOME CONSTITUENTS UH, FROM FROM MY

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NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH BOSTON. I YOU KNOW, I THINK DANNY MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT EMISSION AUTO IS? IT IS. OKAY. UM, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES THERE TICKETING AND TOWING.

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UM, I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS, BUT, UM, COULD YOU I'VE SENT I'VE SENT A MESSAGE TO YOU ON THIS, BUT THEN I FOLLOW UP WITH YOU

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AFTER THE MEETING AND, UM, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS. UM, YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. AND PART OF IT. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A DIFFERENT

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ISSUE BUT PART OF IT IS THE SEVEN NIGHTS PER WEEK RESIDENTIAL PARK RESIDENTIAL PARKING THAT'S NEEDED. BUT UM. WE CAN TALK AFTER I, I DON'T I

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DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO MIX THE TWO. OKAY. UM. I DO HAVE A I DO HAVE A LETTER UM, A LETTER OF ABSENCE FROM

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ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD. SOME CITY COUNCILOR HENRY SANTANA AND COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMITTEE OF CITY SERVICES. I REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT I

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AM UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S HEARING ON DOCKET 0515 WATER FOR A HEARING TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF ADDRESSING POTHOLES IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. I LIKE TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE

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TO CHAIR FLYNN FOR SPONSORING AND HOLDING THIS HEARING ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. I LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING THE VALUABLE INSIGHTS IN THE DISCUSSION IN THE COMMITTEE'S

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REPORT AND RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS. UH, CITY COUNCILOR HENRY SANTANA. UM, CHIEF, MY LAST QUESTION I GUESS DURING THIS BUDGET

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PROCESS ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING IN THE FY 27 BUDGET AND DANNY YOU TO A NOMINEE AS WELL? ARE YOU CONFIDENT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR UM, POTHOLE

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REPAIRS? YES. >> AND I WOULD SAY NOT JUST POTHOLE REPAIRS BUT I THINK WE WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO SUPPORT A REALLY STRONG, UH, PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, UH, NEXT YEAR.

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OKAY. >> UM, I. NO, NO, I'LL. GET IT. >> OKAY. COUNCILOR, IF I IF I HAVE JUST ONE. KIND OF. >> GENERAL MARK IF THAT'S OKAY. >> YEAH THAT YEAH OF. COURSE I JUST I WANT TO I WANT IT WOULD BE IT WOULD WOULDN'T

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BE APPROPRIATE TO NOT TAKE THIS MINUTE AND LIKE RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO THIS WORK. YOU KNOW NORMAN AND AND DANNY PROVIDE INCREDIBLY CREDIBLE LEADERSHIP HERE BUT YOU. KNOW THE. >> WORK OF. ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND

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PHYSICALLY SHOVELING TWO AND A HALF TONS OF HOT MIX IS REALLY LABOR INTENSIVE. IT'S HARD WHO YOU'RE WORKING IN IN IN THE STREET. UM IT CAN BE DANGEROUS WORK.

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AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THOSE FOLKS WHO DO THAT WORK FOR US EVERY DAY. OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY SPRING IT MIGHT BE AFTER A NIGHT THEY'VE BEEN OUT DOING SNOW AND ICE. SO UH.

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JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE THEIR WORK AND AND ASK PEOPLE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THESE TEAMS DOING THAT THAT WORK. PLEASE SLOW DOWN. BE CAREFUL. YOU KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY VULNERABLE ON. THE ROADWAY.

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NO THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD POINT IN THAT I AGREE WITH YOU. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE . PROFESSIONAL WORK THE THE WORKERS DO. UM, FIXING AND FILLING POTHOLES.

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UM, WHEN THE FILLING POTHOLES HOW HOT DOES IT GET? ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME. IS IT HOW HOT IS THAT ASPHALT THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH? YEAH. >> SO IT.

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COOLS SLOWER IN THE SUMMER. UM, AND IN THE WINTER AS AS DANNY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE HUSTLING TO GET THAT MIX OUT OF THE TRUCK BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN IT AS IT COOLS IT GETS HARDER AND HARDER

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TO WORK WITH. UM, IN THE SUMMERTIME, YOU KNOW THAT THAT MIX CAN STAY WARMER. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN IT'S COMING OUT IT'S 180. I WAS. 108 HUNDRED DAYS INTO MY HEAD

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TO. IT AND SO SO NICK AND DANNY AND NORMAN ALL THE WORKERS HAVE TO UM YOU KNOW, SAFETY IS A IS IS

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SOMETHING YOU STRESS. BUT TELL ME ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT OF UM WHAT YOU PROVIDE WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE FOR WORKERS THAT ARE FILLING THE POTHOLES?

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SURE. >> YEAH. >> SO WE, UM UH, THEY GIVE A BOOT ALLOWANCE, RIGHT? SO YOU KNOW, A NICE PAIR OF STURDY BOOTS. UM, YOU'LL SEE THE PAVERS. SO WE NEED IS WHAT WE ARE, UM, AN. EMPLOYEE WHO'S THE PAVER?

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IT'S A RATING, RIGHT? IT'S A IT'S A JOB DESCRIPTION. IT'S WHAT WHAT THEY DO MOST OF THE TIME. UM, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR PATCH CLOSE SO THEY'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE YARD THEY'LL HAVE THEIR LOCKER KNOW. IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW.

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COVERALLS OR OVERALLS. OR WHATEVER THEY WHATEVER THEY USE GLOVES. RIGHT. >> EYE PROTECTION OF THIS VEST ALL. PROVIDED BY THE CITY. IF IF A PIECE OF THAT ASPHALT OVERHEATING JUST HIT YOUR SKIN,

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IT'S GOING TO BURN, ISN'T IT? UM. NOT NECESSARILY NOT BY THE TIME YOU START SHOVELING IT IT COOLS CONSIDERABLY. UM, YOU KNOW, AN EYE PATCH TOGETHER FOR YEARS. UM, IT'S IT'S NOT YOU YOU DON'T

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WANT TO GET IT ON YOU BECAUSE IT'S IT'S DIRTY. IT WAS DIFFICULT TO WASH OFF. UM, SO YOU DO YOUR YOU GET HIT ONCE YOU LEARN A LESSON VERY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, TO TO

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COVER EVERYTHING AS YOU GO. WHEN YOU'RE BREATHING THAT IN THAT'S A STRONG THAT'S A STRONG ODOR. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? IT IS BUT YOU'RE OUTDOORS AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOWNWIND YOU

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KNOW IT'S NOT A CONFINED SPACE. UM, I YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE A LITTLE STRANGE. I ACTUALLY ENJOYED THE SMELL. UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT UM, AS LONG AS YOU'RE IN A WELL-VENTILATED AREA, YOUR

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TIME. AND IN THE WORKERS THAT ARE DOING THAT, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER THEY COMPLETED OR EVEN DURING OR DURING THE WORK BUT THEY HAVE

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AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A BREAK AND HAVE A GLASS OF WATER. OH YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> UM DO THEY DO THE WORKERS PUT OUT ORANGE UM, CONES WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE WORK. WHEN NEEDED? YEP. YES. >> OKAY. >> I MEAN YES, IT'S USUALLY

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WHENEVER WE CAN WE HAVE A FOLLOWING SO ANY ON ANY OF THE MAIN DRAGS THE THE BUSY STREETS WERE THE FOLLOW VEHICLE WITH WITH IN BOTH VEHICLES THE PATCH TRUCK AND THE FOLLOW. VEHICLE WILL HAVE. EMERGENCY LIGHTS ON IT. UM TO KIND OF BLOCK TRAFFIC.

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UM AND THEY'LL SET THAT TRUCK UP TO PROTECT EXACTLY SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE LIKE THE HOT MIX TRUCK IN FRONT YOU KNOW THAT. THEY'RE THEY'RE OKAY AND BUT THE TRUCK BEHIND WILL BE KIND OF SET UP TO PROTECT THEM.

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WHEN WE DO ROADS LIKE RUTHERFORD AVE A LARGER STREET. WE WILL GET A POLICE DETAIL. OKAY. BUT BUT. THE STREET IS NOT NECESSARILY CLOSED FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC THOUGH IS. VERY VERY RARE.

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OKAY. >> YEAH. >> WE STILL HAVE RECOMMENDED SPEED LIMIT. UM, WHEN YOU'RE PASSING A TRUCK OR UM WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE THE VEHICLE OF THE

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DRIVER THAT'S PASSING THE TRUCK? WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION? YOU WOULD YOU WOULD HAVE. YOU KNOW, SLOW AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. >> YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE ON A 25 MILE AN HOUR ROAD PLEASE, YOU KNOW PLEASE DROP DOWN 10. >> OR 15.

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YEAH. IT'S SPACE. RIGHT. DON'T WE JUST ASK PEOPLE TO. YOU KNOW. >> GIVE GIVE. THEM GIVE THEM SPACE TO YOU. KNOW GET. >> TRY TO GET AS FAR LIKE IF WE'RE IN THAT WE'RE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. TRY TO GET AS FAR TO THE YOU KNOW. >> ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER. YEAH IT'S.

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MORE SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU'RE PASSING A A POLICE VEHICLE ON ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THE LAW IS YOU YOU ARE TO MOVE TO THE THE NEXT LANE. SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE OUR

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THOUGHTS ARE WITH THE STATE POLICE A STATE TROOPER THAT WAS JUST UM HIT IN I THINK IT WAS ROUTE ONE MAYBE BUT OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THAT STATE TROOPER BUT I THINK

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ABOUT OTHER WORKERS AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW MBTA WORKERS I SEE OUT THERE AS WELL BUT SLOW DOWN

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TRY TO GO FIVE MILES AN HOUR IF YOU CAN MOVE. OVER INVOLVE THEM. YEAH. UM AND THESE ARE SIMPLE SIMPLE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT IT IS

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IMPORTANT TO REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT UM SAFETY. SAFETY IS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF IT. UM, WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER

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QUESTIONS. I, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO NORMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING WORK AND YOUR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY FOR A LONG, LONG PERIOD OF TIME .

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WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL? UM, COMMISSIONER AND TO TO DANNY AS WELL FOR HIS LONG TIME COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. UM, SO I'M GOING TO KEEP I'M

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GOING TO KEEP THIS HEARING OPEN AND MAYBE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WE CAN WE CAN KIND OF REVEAL AND GO BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS BUT BUT ON

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THIS TALKING 0515. UM, AGAIN I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO SHANE AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ETHAN. BUT ON THIS DOCKET 0515 ORDER FOR A HEARING TO DISCUSS THE

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STATUS OF ADDRESSING POTHOLES IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU.