Good morning. Thank you all for joining. We will get started in just a moment. As a reminder, when you are joining from the waiting room, please do remain on mute unless or until you are providing testimony before the board. have just another moment to clear the
waiting room. Good morning. This is a hearing before the licensing board for the city of Boston. Today is Tuesday, February 10th, 2026. Today's hearing is held pursuant to temporary amendments to the open meeting law. That is what allows us to meet virtually. Today's hearing is being
recorded and will be posted to the city of Boston's website. Before I review procedural matters, I will introduce chairwoman of the board, Kathleen Joyce. >> Good morning. My name is Kathleen Joyce, chair of the Boston Licensing Board. Today I'm also joined by Commissioner Liam Curran and Commissioner Ka Saxon.
>> Please ensure that your audio and visuals are working properly if you will be testifying before the board this morning. We'll call each item in the order that it appears on this morning's agenda. I'll then ask who is present on behalf of the Lency, who is present on behalf of the Boston Police Department, and whether there are any other
individuals with firsthand knowledge of the alleged incident who wish to testify. I will then swear in all parties. After that, the police report will be read into the record and the lency or the representative will have the opportunity to make a brief statement followed by questions by the chair and
commissioners. All testimony will be limited only to those individuals with firsthand personal knowledge of the alleged incident. We'll begin with the first item on this morning's agenda. Calling item number one, Razerbacks Lesie LLC doing business as the W. Boston located at 100 Stewart Street.
Date of the incident, October 3rd, 2025. Failure to cooperate with police not allowing register inspection in violation of Mass General laws chapter 138 section 64 and boards rule 1.10A and B. Who is present on behalf of the lency?
>> Attorney Tyler Hensler from Upton Canel and Develin. Uh and as well as Thomas Botszford and Muhammad Jalah from the W Hotel. >> Thank you very much. I'm just looking to see um if both of those individuals are on my screen.
Um, Mr. Boser, Mr. Joel, if you're with us, if you could please come on camera and unmute yourself so that we can swear you in when the time comes. Not sure I see either of them. >> I don't see them. I just spoke to them. So, um, maybe I'll give them a call.
>> Thank you. In the meantime, uh, Chairman Joyce, would you like to take a second call for the so we can have the >> Sure. >> give the witnesses time to show off. Thank you. Um, we will return to this item for a second call. In the meantime, moving on to item number two. Calling South End Partners, Inc. doing business
as SRV restaurant located at 569 to 575 Columbus A in Roxberry. Date of the incident October 10th, 2025. Salt and Battery Patron on Patron in violation of Mass General Law Chapter 138 section 64, Chapter 265, section 13A. Who's present on behalf of the Lency? Uh good morning,
Attorney Green, Chairman Joyce, members of the board, Attorney William Ferillo on behalf of Sulten Partners, Inc. Uh we should have uh James Cocher, who's the uh one of the principles, and Christina Garcia Roberts, who is the manager on
duty and uh the responsible party that evening that gave the report. >> Thank you very much. I do see both on my screen. Thank you. Who is president on behalf of the Boston Police Department? Good morning, sir. >> Sorry. One more time. One at a time. If
you could please just identify yourselves. >> Uh, Officer Matthew Negrelli, D4. >> Thank you. >> Sorry about that. Uh, Detective Jared Taylor from >> Thank you very much, Officer Neglli. Dive Taylor. Are there any other Sorry,
one more. >> Officer Ramro from D4. Yes. >> Thank you. Are there any other individuals with firsthand knowledge of the alleged incident who wish to testify this morning? >> Can you all please raise your right hand?
>> Uh, thank you. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. >> I do. >> I do. >> Thank you. Who will be reading the report for the record? Officer Gley, Detective Taylor, um if you'll be reading the report to the record for the board.
>> Yeah, I I can read the report, sir. >> Thank you. If you could please proceed. >> Y about 10:39 p.m. on Friday, October 10th, 2025, Officer Negrelli assigned to the Delta 415 Frank responded to a fight in progress at Columbus A and
Massachusetts Avenue. Multiple D4 units responded to assist. Upon arrival, officers observed the victim, Brett Ginsler, being held up by a friend outside of 569 Columbus Avenue in parenthesis SRV and parenthesis.
Officers observed the victim to be bleeding heavily from his nose. When officers asked what had happened, the victim stated that they were attending a wedding party when a fight broke out into the street. The wedding party was being held at the SRV restaurant. Officers spoke to other people inside of
the party who stated that they not they did not see who hit the victim due to a large crowd being out on the street. Officers gathered the manager's name, Christina Garcia Roberts. The manager stated that they have CCTV that faces towards the exit of
the establishment. Patrol supervisor arrived on scene and checked the establishment's permits. Boston EMS 3A10. Sad drone arrived on scene and evaluated the victim. Boston EMS transported the victim to Boston Medical Center for
further evaluation. >> Thank you very much. Attorney Furlow, would you like to address the alleged incident? >> Um, yes. Uh, as far as the officer, just quickly, u Officer Degrelli, uh, staff was cooperative, uh, with you that evening, >> correct?
>> Okay. And um to explain the background of this uh SRV um is a fine dining Italian restaurant uh 569 Columbus have uh has been there for 10 years. Uh currently they host somewhere in the
vicinity of 30 35 events a year where the restaurant is booked out generally uh for weddings. Uh on this date, October 10th, a wedding was booked from October 10th, a wedding was booked from uh 400 p.m. until 11:00 p.m. with uh 400 p.m. until 11:00 p.m. with approximately 100 guests. Um Christina approximately 100 guests. Um Christina
Garcia Roberts, who's present today, was Garcia Roberts, who's present today, was one of the two staff managers that was one of the two staff managers that was on duty supervising the wedding. There on duty supervising the wedding. There was also a a third party uh event was also a a third party uh event planner uh that was assisting that planner uh that was assisting that evening. Um wedding took place uh
evening. Um wedding took place uh approximately 4:30. Uh on this date, approximately 4:30. had a sitdown dinner. Uh there was a reception with dancing uh music and so forth. Uh while uh Miss Roberts uh and the wedding planner were circulating the room, they noticed that two gentlemen close to the
front of the restaurant near the bar were uh having words very loudly and being disruptive. They approached the two of them uh asked them to either you know stop, tone it down, don't dis
excuse me, don't disrupt the wedding um or leave if in fact they weren't going to do that. Um they did. They separated. They seemed to calm down. Um the staff went back to uh making sure every everything else was going well at the
wedding. Uh several minutes later, um Miss Roberts noticed that a number of the guests were rushing out the front door. U she followed to see what was going on. uh at that time she uh saw outside that one of those two males uh
was bleeding from the nose. Uh a woman that was with him um was also uh sitting on the sidewalk at the time. She approached the two uh asked if she could be of assistance. Uh the woman said she had fallen while she was trying to
separate the two males from uh from fighting. Uh she had a staff bring out some towels and ice for the gentleman that was bleeding. Uh she then went in and called the police uh and the EMTs who arrived shortly thereafter. Um uh
when she went back in, she went to the uh the bride groom and suggested uh that they end uh the wedding a bit early. It was about uh at that point it was about a/4 to 11. Uh which they did. They turned off the music and they asked people to gather their belongings to
leave. Uh as stated, she assisted with the police uh in terms of uh telling them what they they had observed inside and then uh what took place outside on the sidewalk. Uh we would point out that uh again uh we do a number of these
events. We've never had any problems uh with weddings and um we tried to calm the two individuals down while they were inside and they evidently carried their uh disagreement out to the sidewalk. Uh we'll answer any questions that the
board may have uh with regard to any of the issues. >> Thank you. We'll see if there are any questions from the board at this time. Chairman Joyce, any questions? >> I don't have any questions right now. I might have questions after. Thank you.
>> I have no questions. Thanks. >> None from me. Thank you. >> Thank you. If there are no questions, the board will take this matter under advisement. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Calling item number three, 175 Apes Street LLC. Doing business located at 175 Apswitch Street. Date of the
incident, October 25th, 2025. Assault and battery patron on patron in violation of mass general laws chapter 138 section 64 and chapter 265 section 13A. who is present on behalf of the Lency. >> Good morning, Attorney Green. Madam Chair, members of the board, Dennis
Quilty, attorney representing the Lency. With me are a number of people, not all of whom will need to testify, uh the uh manager on duty, Martina Rosenbomb, Jim Carrey, the individual who called the Boston Police Department, uh Ismile
Salem Scott Hento, and Joseph Dunn. Um good morning. Good morning. I do see all of those individuals on my screen. Thank you for that. Who is present on behalf of the Boston Police Department? >> No one else is here to read.
>> Thank you. Are there any other individuals with firsthand knowledge of the alleged incident who wish to testify? >> Is um Officer Ramroot here for this one? Yeah, I thought I saw that officer as well. >> That officer's here. Good. >> Sorry. Officer Ram, you're you're on
mute right now if you're speaking to us. There we go. Officer, are you here on on behalf for this item? This is MJ Music Hall item number three. >> Yes. The two lines down street one >> switch street.
>> Yep. Yeah, this is 175 street. >> I'm here for the one for the two lands down street. >> One the beginning of the narrow incites two lands down street. >> Perfect. Thank you. All right. >> Oh, it does. You're right.
>> Thank you. And uh just Mr. Kerry, your your screen is just currently black. We can't actually see you on screen. If you will be um testifying, then we'll we'll need to get your video straightened out. >> Otherwise, trying to do that right now. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Uh in the meantime, uh can you all please raise your right hand? >> Thank you. Do you sort of tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Thank you very much. Officer Ammer, are you going to be reading the report to the record for the board? >> Yes.
>> Thank you. You may please proceed. About 9:30 p.m. on Saturday 10:25 2025, officers Hassan and Ramro and the Delta 101 Frank responded to a radio call for an assault
and battery in progress at Tuland Sound Street, Boston MGM. Upon arrivals, officers spoke with a caller identified as Kimberly, I'm sorry if I butcher her last name, Rash date of birth, 1012 1982, who stated that her son/victim
identified as Kayn Johnson, date of birth 426, 2007, was assaulted by an unknown suspect, who fled the scene prior to officer's arrival. Mrs. Rash stated that the suspect appeared to be intoxicated and was pushing random
people. Mrs. Rash stated the suspect grabbed her stepson identified as Michael Hodgej datab 74 2008 by his arm. Mrs. R stated she held on to her stepson's other arm to prevent the
suspect from pulling him. Mrs. Rash stated her son Johnson tried pushing the suspect off his brother when the suspect began punching her son Johnson in the face. Johnson fell to the ground and the suspect started to kick him in the head.
Officers observed redness to Mr. Johnson's right eye and cheeks. Boston EMS were on scene and evaluated Mr. Johnson. Officers searched the surrounding area for the suspect to no avail. The suspect was described as a white male in his 40s, medium build,
about 5'11, wearing green tank shirt, jeans with black sneakers with tattoos on his left arm. The suspect fled in the direction of Ipssworth Street towards Boston Conservatory. >> Thank you,
is yeah if I may I know that Sergeant Gallagher is there a supplemental >> yeah sorry one moment >> I can read that >> thank you very much authored by Detective Norman Texer on 112
26 at about 18 11225 1845 hours detective terra and kahill MGM musical to landown street to conduct the code 35 premises Inspection detective texter issued license premise inspection notice
number 016912 to the management MGM user call Scott Hentosh violation AMD patron on that is Detective Tixer's report. >> Thank you very much. Attorney Quilty, would you like to address the alleged incident?
>> If if I may, thank you attorney Green. Um officer uh first of all your um report do you know who made the police call officer Ramro? >> Um it was to my um knowledge the Mrs.
Rash. >> Okay. All right. Um were you ever informed at any time that it was actually a staff member who called the police? Um I no
>> okay did did you interact with any of the staff either Mr. Hentosh or Mr. Kerry or Ms. Rosenbomb at the site at the scene? >> Not to my knowledge at all. >> Okay. Um and Detective, thank you. Detective Gallagher, you you you read
from uh Detective Tasher's report concerning uh inspection notice 016912 and it's is is correct is it not that on that report were the police called? Yes. By whom? Staff employee?
>> That's that's what that report states. Yes. >> And down below did owner manager cooperate with the police is checked. Yes. >> Yeah, they did. >> Okay. Um, would that lead you to believe that the detectives uh believed that staff called the police?
>> It would, but he's not here. He's at Rock Springs. He might come in later, but uh we have to go with what's written. >> Okay. No, I understand. I understand. Uh, thank you. Um, I we I don't have any further questions. I I would like to uh
provide um or ask some of the staff members to provide testimony, but we we we do believe and Mr. Kerry will testify that it is he who called the Boston police and actually followed this individual down the street uh explaining to the police where he was throughout
that time until the guy disappeared in the crowd. Um so perhaps Mr. Kerry, if your camera is working, could you please uh There you are. >> It is now. Mr. If I could just briefly have you raise your right hand since we didn't catch us on camera. Thank you. Do you sort of tell the truth the whole
truth and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Jim, would you just state your full name and what your position is at the MGM musical? >> Sure. Attorney, my name is James Kerry. My position is security supervisor at MGM Music Hall.
>> Okay. And on the night in question, were you alerted to an incident that happened uh inside the music hall? >> I was. Yes. >> And what occurred? >> My understanding there was a there was an individual inside that was acting
erratic and had been uh he actually left the music hall on his own out the window but out the side if switch door. Um, and I observed him outside in a conversation
with another individual who I did not know. >> And what was your attention originally directed to this individual by other staff members? >> It was. Yes. >> Okay. And as a result, were you were you looking to find this fellow?
>> I was. Yes. >> Okay. And and ju just tell the board what happened. Did you go outside, follow him? Did you call the police? >> I did. That conversation seemed a little heated and his behavior was erratic. I was concerned both for his safety and safety of other people on the street.
So, I made the decision to call Boston Police Department because we did not have a detail. Um, and when I called D4, if I remember correctly, they connected me to the 911 dispatch, but my practice
is typically call T4 directly. Um, so I called T4, they connected me to 911 and while I was on the phone, the individual started to move and I followed him around from the side of the building, the Switch Street side where he
continued down if Switch Street um, and I directed the officers in his direction. >> Okay. And did do you know what did the officers ever make contact with this individual? >> I'm not aware that they did. Uh they did come and I did speak with the officers
in front of the music hall. >> Okay. And you did you explain to them at that point in which direction he had gone, what he was wearing, how tall he was, etc., etc. >> I did all of the details that I had at the time. Yes. >> Okay. And did did he did he disappear
from your site at some point? >> He did. Yes. He went around the corner as if switch street bends. >> Okay. All right. And then did you interact with the Boston police? uh officers at that point. >> I did. Yes. >> Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Carrie.
The board may have some questions for you. Um if I may just quickly ask Miss Rosenbomb. Uh Martina, are you with us? >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Just again state your full name and your position visa via the music hall.
>> Sure. My name is Martina Rosenbomb. I'm the senior operations manager here at MGM Musicall. >> Okay. And at some point that on the evening question, did it come to your attention that there was an individual uh in in the facility causing some issues? >> Yes. >> Okay. And what who who who called you?
Who spoke to you? What did they say? And what did you do as a result? >> Sure. Yeah. The um the the individuals that are listed on the report, the mother with the two sons, they came out of the music hall. Um they were visibly upset at that point. uh when we got details from them about uh what had
happened, we sent security inside to look for this individual. And at that must have been around the same time, he came out a different door and left on his own. Um which we didn't we didn't know until we couldn't find him inside. And then another staff member mentioned that they saw him outside. Um at which
point then Jim uh because he was acting so erratic, he was kind of he was being very loud with his friend um sitting down, standing up um whatnot. Uh at that point Jim Jim called um so that we could get eyes on him um as Jim mentioned we
had asked for a detail that day and it did not get filled. Um so we just wanted to get eyes on him and also for these individuals to to talk to the cops and press charges if they wanted to. >> Okay. So, you did you stayed with the the woman and her sons
while Jim was outside trying to track this guy down? >> Yeah, we we gave them some space with the EMTs because they were a little um obviously upset. So, the EMTs were were with them, but I was standing by um waiting for whatever they needed once the EMTs had checked them out.
>> Okay, great. And did you happen to be uh there when the detectives came back a week or so later? >> I I may have been. I think Scott was the one that that talked to them, but um but yeah, but we were we were fully aware. We had already pulled footage of the situation at that point.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um thank you, Miss Rosen. Again, the board may have some questions for you. I would just Mr. Green have one question for Mr. Hentosh. Um >> I may Scott again just state your full name and your position visa v the lency.
>> Scott Hento, senior security manager at MGM Music Hall. Okay. And you your name appears on the um inspection notice. Did you actually interface with Detective Terara? >> I did. Yes. >> Okay. And did you give him the information about Mr. Kerry and what
your team had done? >> Affirmative. >> Okay. All right. And did he have any questions, further questions for you at that time? >> No, negative. >> Okay. All right. Thank you again, Scott. The board may have some questions, so please stand by. >> Sure. Uh, thank you, Madam Chair, and
Attorney Green and Commissioners. If there are any questions, we're certainly happy to take them. >> Thank you all. We'll see if the board does have any questions at this time. >> Uh, thank you for all that information. Um, I don't have any questions at this time. >> No questions. Thank you.
>> None from me. Thank you. >> Thank you. If there are no questions and the board will take this under adisement as well. Thank you all. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Calling item number four. CMGCP-1 LLC doing business as Cavo located at 1:3 Plaza. Date of the
incident December 7th, 2025. Assault and battery patron on employee in violation of Mass Generalized Chapter 138 section 64 and chapter 265 section 13A. And assault and battery employee on patron in violation of mass generalized chapter 138 section 64 and chapter 265 section
13A. Who is present on behalf of the Lency? uh William Burke, Prince Le Thai for the Lency and together with me are Joseph Okconor, Joe O' Conor and uh MDI uh Tanguino
from the establishment. >> Thank you. I do see Mr. Okconor on screen. M uh up there and Mr. Tango is coming on camera now as well. Thank you. Who is present on behalf of the Boston Police Department? Uh >> Sergeant
Thank you. Are there any other firsthand knowledge of the alleged who to testify this morning? >> Can you all please raise your right hand? Uh, Mr. Tongo, if you could please raise your right hand as well. >> Oh, thank you. Do you sort of tell the
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. I do. >> Thank you. Sergeant Flynn, if you please read the report to the record to the board. So there's the original report was written by officer Okconor. Uh I'll start with that and then I can
read my supplemental. >> Great. >> Yeah. About 12:12 a.m. on Sunday, December 7th, 2025. Officer Okconor and the Alpha 421 Alpha responded to a radio call for an assault and battery report
at One Center Plaza Cavo in Basley. Upon arrival, Officer Okconor was approached by the caller. later identified as Alexandra Foazi, informing him that her friend victim, later identified as Gabrielle Fagan, was bleeding from the
back of the head. The caller Fazy stated that multiple bouncers working inside of Cavo put their hands on the victim and drew him to the ground for no reason. The caller later stated that she did not observe what happened between the victim and the bouncers inside of the club,
only that her husband was escorted out of the building without a reason. The caller stated that she also left her coat in the nightclub and she stated that a bouncer said absolutely not in shoving the caller which resulted in a heated verbal altercation. The caller stated that security eventually brought
out her jacket but remained confrontational with all parties. Officer Okconor began speaking with the victim and observed the victim to be highly intoxicated. Upon closer examination, Officer Okconor observed the victim to have a laceration to the back of his head with dried blood around
the wound. Officer Okconor asked the victim if he would like to be seen by Boston EMS, but he denied medical attention. Officer Okconor asked the victim what happened inside a cavo tonight, and he stated that he and his girlfriend were dancing near a rope that separates the dance floor from other
tables when he was grabbed by security. when he was grabbed by security. The victim stated that he was thrown into the tables as he was attempting to defend himself. The victim stated that's when multiple bounces then grabbed him where he ultimately hit his head and when he woke up he was being carried out
of the establishment. Officer Okconor asked that the victim if at any point he went unconscious to which he stated quote not fully. Further stating that he trains mixed martial arts and knows what it feels like to be completely unconscious. The victim stated that when
he was escorted out of the building, he again hit his head off of the bricks out front of the entrance. When officer Okconor asked which bouncer pushed him once he was outside, the victim was unable to answer. Officer Okconor asked the victim a second time if he would like to be evaluated by Boston EMS,
which he again denied. The victim, caller, and all other parties then left the scene in an Uber. Officer Okconor began speaking with a bouncer stationed outside, Mr. Russell Jones, who stated that after being escorted out of the nightclub, the victim made threats to
quote, "shoot the door off." Mr. Russell also stated that the caller made multiple attempt of charging the front door, but security was able to hold her back. After all of that took place, Mr. Russell stated that the parties began walking around out front, but no further
altercation took place. Officer Okconor then spoke with head of security Made Tong Guano who stated that the victim and his girlfriend were continuously blocking a roped section of the establishment used by employees to render services to patrons. Mr. Tonguino
stated that bounces explained that he cannot block that section and it was at that point the victim pushed a bouncer inside. Mr. Tongino explained that when the bouncer reacted to being pushed by the victim, he grabbed the victim and the victim ended up on the couch, not on
the floor. It was at this time multiple bouncers grabbed the victim and escorted him out of the building. Officers then spoke to another bouncer stationed at the front door, Jason Digitano, who stated that the victim was aggressive while in line waiting to be let into the nightclub. Mr. Digitano stated that when
he attempted to scan the victim and his party in, the victim made an attempt to walk past security. Mr. Digitano stated that the victim was unhappy with having to stand in line in the cold due to only wearing a short sleeve shirt. Officer Okconor then spoke with the general
manager manager of Kevo, Nadim Duren, who showed officer Okconor two separate recordings of interactions between the victim and his security. Mr. Duran showed officer Okconor one video of the victim pushing a bouncer inside the nightclub as he was approached for
blocking a service station. Following the push by the victim, the victim appears to throw a drink into the face of the bouncer. The next video shown to officer Okconor by Mr. Duran shows the victim being carried out of the nightclub by multiple bouncers and being gently placed onto the ground out front
of the entrance. Officer Okconor provided Mr. Duran's Boston Police Department email and requested the CCTV recordings of the incident which Mr. Duran agreed to send to officer Okconor. At the time of the writing of this report, Mr. Durant had not sent officer
Okconor any footage of the incident. Officer Okconor notified the patrol supervisor of the alpha 907 Sergeant Flynn of a code 35 violation and his body warn camera was activated. >> Thank you, Sergeant. And uh you are going to read your supplemental as well.
>> I will. Yes. I'm just trying to get to you. >> No worries. 00 51 hours on Monday, December 8th, 2025. Sergeant Flynn, assigned to the Alpha 907 unit along with Officer Ortiz Arias assigned to the Alpha 426 Alpha
unit, responded to the Cabo nightclub located at number one center plaza in the downtown section of the city of Boston on a code 35. This code 35 is in relation to an incident that occurred during the early morning hours on 12725 and was documented in the original
incident report by officer Okconor. The reporting party in the original incident alleged that staff members of Cavo had assaulted him while removing him from the premise. Staff members of Cavo report that they were assaulted by the reporting party as they attempted to remove him for unruly behavior. Sergeant
Flynn was met on this date by Naim Duran, the general manager. Mr. Duran was entirely cooperative during the code 35 and the licenses were posted in an easily accessible and conspicuous area. Sergeant Flynn issued license premise violation number 018126
for AMB employee on patron and AMB patron on employee. Mr. Duran signed the license premise inspection notice and was provided a copy in hand. >> Thank you very much, Sergeant. Attorney Burke, would you like to address the alleged incident? >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Green. Good morning,
Sergeant Flynn. Uh you you were not present on the night of the uh the 7th, correct? >> That is correct. That was not >> Have you spoken with Officer Okconor? >> I did speak with him at the time. Yeah. >> Okay. And have you confirmed with him what's written in uh in his report of
this matter that you read out to us earlier? >> Yes. >> Okay. And can you confirm that uh the Boston Police Department has since you wrote your report on December 8th, I think it was, you have received the video that was um that was viewed by
Officer O' Connor. um uh from the management at uh my client. >> I I cannot answer to that. I spoke with officer Okconor uh about this incident in detail back then, the seventh and eth around then. I haven't spoken to him much about it since. >> Okay. So, you don't know one way or the other?
>> I I don't know one way or the other. >> Okay. And with regard to your service of the citation, uh Mr. Duran, the general manager, was cooperative with you? >> Yes. A complete gentleman. Yes. >> Okay. Fine. Um thank you. Uh, Sergeant
Flynn. Uh, for that, uh, members of the board, I'd like to, uh, ask some questions of Mr. Joe O' Conor, who's the, uh, manager of this establishment? Mr. Okconor, would you identify yourself, please? >> Yeah. Joe Oconor, nightlife director and and manager.
>> And as a result of this incident on the 7th, did you in fact cause an investigation to to be taken of the incident in question? >> And first, let me get out of the way. Did you in fact forward copies of the video that's mentioned in Officer O' Conor's report? >> Yeah,
>> yes, we did. We did send them in January. We had an issue with uploading them to a link, but we were able to get them over. >> All right. And if the board doesn't have those for any reason, we have them and we'll provide them over to you. Of course. >> Thank you. >> We don't have them. >> You do not have them. Well, I'll get
>> unless so just for your own knowledge, unless the licensed premise unit, Sergeant Gallagher or Detective Hernandez, asked for them, we often don't get them, so you should also send them to us. >> Okay. Absolutely. I I'll have them forwarded over today. The link will be uh be up and available. Uh Mr. Okconor,
what describe for me if you can uh what was the result of the investigation you caused to be undertaken of this incident? uh similar to in the report. I mean, you know, he the security officer had, you know, approached him just to ask him to slide over. The guest um you know, struck him with a I don't know if
it was a hand or a fist right to the chest. The uh security officer then went to walk towards him and as he did that, a drink was thrown in his face. Um so that point, you know, he he did um approach him with another another officer. They grabbed him. They ended up lifting him out. They sat him down
gently on his butt um outside on the brick. He wasn't, you know, face down or laying down. He was gently dropped outside. Those those uh officers went back inside and um the guest had taken like another swing at a door guy and
then ended up um heading down the street. >> All right. And did you have opportunity to talk with your head of security, Mr. Madi Tonguino, concerning this incident? Yeah, my mad had been at the front door that night when he was there, so he was he was aware of it. >> All right. And in fact, did you view the
videos yourself that you sent along to Officer Okconer? >> Uh, yes, I did. >> And are is your view of the videos consistent with his description in his report that uh that Mr. uh Fagan was in fact gently placed onto the ground out
in the front of the entrance? >> Uh, very much so. >> All right. And Mr. Mr. In fact, in that video, Mr. Fagan, as soon as he's placed down, he's in a seated position, is he not? >> Correct. >> And he gets up right away. Correct. >> Yes, he does.
>> Okay. And um uh Mr. uh Tonguino, you're the uh head of security for this establishment. Kevo, sir. >> And on the night in question, you've you've heard the report as read by
Sergeant Flynn. Do you have anything to add to that? >> That's exactly what happened. >> Okay. >> And do not recall hitting uh the individual. We never we have a hands off hands up. We practice our hands off. Um
we don't put hands on our clients. >> Okay. Did you ever observe them being dropped or having his head smashed on the brick walkway outside? I was right there and when they sat him down on his butt and then he got up himself and then just walked away. >> And have you seen this video? The video
of inside and outside? >> Yes, I did. >> Okay. And that's consistent with your description of them placing him down gently on his on his back end. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um I don't have any further questions. If if the board does, uh I I
would uh I would think it would be important to note here that uh there's apparently some evidence as observed by officer Okconor of dried blood on this man's head. Um the incident in the interior is is right on the video and
you can see it is a is an assault by Mr. Fagan on on one of the security men throwing a drink at him, pushing him and there's a a bit of a grappling. The next thing we see is them being brought outside. I I'd submit to you that any dried blood on this guy's head is is
from a circumstance that had nothing to do with either the interior or the exterior uh incidents. Blood just doesn't dry that quickly, I'd submit to you. Um the uh video also I've I've viewed it myself and we'll of course pass it along. It speaks for itself as
to the manner of escorting him out of this out of the property. He's uh he's he's put down very gently on his back end and and bounces up right away. Um this is an incident that that got out of
hand solely because Mr. Fagan and his uh his uh female friend uh were uh continuing to obstruct service. They had been repeatedly warned about it and when a step was made to move them out of the way, they reacted violently. The guy is
a selfdescribed martial arts trainee. Um, he seemed to have met his match, I guess. I don't know. But, um, the the wound on his head doesn't seem to be causally related to anything that occurred at Kevo, as far as I can see.
And I welcome your review of this. Um, that's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Chairman Joyce, you have any questions? >> Uh, yes. Do you know how long this individual was there and how much he drank?
>> Mr. Okcon, >> I would I'd have to check the time he was there. He was with a group, so it'd be hard. It wasn't an individual tab, so we'd have to do some digging on the um But, you know, I think that night we opened at 11:00, so I think this happened at 12:07, so the max amount of
time it could have been there is >> probably an hour. >> Yeah, an hour max. Yeah, they came from a my party from Springfield, I heard. >> Okay. So, you don't know how he got this laceration in the back of his head with dry blood? >> No.
>> Okay. Um I am curious. So, how many people were in his group and how much how much alcohol did that group consume? >> I can I could probably pull that for you. >> Okay. That would just be helpful. >> No, of course. and we'll wait for the video and um at this point I have no
other questions commissioners. >> Yeah, I'll wait for the video. Thank you. >> Similarly, thank you so much. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, members. Thank you, Mr. Green. >> Thank you all. If you could please just submit that video as soon as possible, as well as if there's any answer to the question of how many people in the group
and how much alcohol they consumed at the premise. >> I'll get the video I'll get the video over to you right now and then follow with the invoices. >> Thank you very much. Shall share those with the commissioners when received. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Board will take this under advisement for the time being. Calling item number five, Broad Street
Entertainment LLC doing business as Tiki Rock and OSA located at 1 India Street. Date of the incident, November 18th, 2025. Serving intoxicated patrons in violation of Mass General Chapter 138 section 69. Patrons leaving with alcoholic beverages in violation of Mass
General Law Chapter 138 section 64 and boards rule 1.09D. and possession of a class D substance on the premise in violation of Mass General law chapter 138 section 64. Who is present on behalf of the Lency? >> Curtis McMillan. I'm the general manager and I'm here with manager on duty for
the evening Brennan Lamb and our head of security Mike Nelson. >> Thank you. I see Mr. Nelson. I do not see the uh Oh, there we go. Thank you. >> Who's present on behalf of the Boston Police Department?
Sergeant Jeff King. >> Thank you, Sergeant King. Are there any other individuals with firsthand knowledge of the alleged incident who wish to testify this morning? >> Can you all please raise your right hand? >> Do you sort of tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Thank you very much. Sergeant King, if you could please read the report into the board uh into the record for the board. >> I will. It's a long report, so bear with me, please. About 1:44 a.m. on Tuesday, 11:11 1825,
officers Woods and Whan in the Alpha 103 Alpha responded to a person with a gun investigation out of C11, I number 252097813 that carried over into District A1 in the area of 40 Broad Street, Boston. Upon arrival, officers were met by the
victim from C11 Samuel Duver, date of birth 10682, who stated he was involved in an altercation at Dublin House, where a knife and firearm were displayed to him, at which point he then called 911 and followed a white Honda Pilot bearing
Mass Regge One Zulu Hotel Bravo 28 to the Tiki Rock at two Broad Street and stated to officers that the suspect was inside. Officers observed the vehicle in question parked in the area of 40 Broad Street. Officers from C11
and the hairy 111 Alpha Zamito Foley arrived on scene to assist. The suspect was described to officers as a black male with short hair and a white hooded sweatshirt on. Officer Whan then observed a male matching that description exit the tiki rock and head in the direction of the white Honda
pilot. Officer Whan then advised Officer Woods via radio to keep an eye on the potential suspect and see if he enters the Honda. The male suspect, who was later identified as Jaquan Alexander, date of birth 83102, began to make entry into the front passenger side of the white Honda along with the female
suspect, later identified as Lakesha O'Bryant, date of birth 32625, who was entering the front driver's side of the vehicle. Officers Whan and Sheiel in the Alpha 436 Alpha approached the driver's side and issued an exit order on O'Bryant while simultaneously officers
Zamito and Foley issued an exit order to Alexander. While attempting to place O'Brien into handcuffs, she began to tense up and put all of her weight onto the ground and continued to resist, refusing to be placed into the back of a police cruiser. Officers were eventually able to secure suspect O'Bryant into the
rear boss of a Boston police cruiser. Officers were able to secure Alexander into handcuffs. Officers then conducted a pat frisk of both parties as well as the vehicle based on the totality of the circumstances at which point a firearm was observed in plain view inside of an
open backpack on the floor of the front passenger side of the vehicle. Following this incident, the Tiki Rock bar began to empty out for the night, at which point a large crowd approached the scene and became disorderly attempting to interfere with the officer's investigation. Several individuals in the crowd behaving began behaving
belligerently towards officers, yelling at them and refusing to vacate the area as the officers attempted to establish a crime scene. At that point, Sergeant King alpha 915 requested that additional officers respond to the scene from the nearby districts of A7 and C6. One individual, an unidentified
light-skinned black or Hispanic female wearing glasses, a white shirt with a heavy build, refused to vacate the crime scene after crime scene tape had been set up. The unknown female yelled at officers and chest bumped an officer multiple times. As Sergeant King Alpha 915 attempted to place the unknown female under arrest, numerous
individuals began to physically interfere with the officers. One individual, suspect Vieiera Cabrera, date of birth 12682, was identified as physically interfering with the officers. Suspect Cabrera was placed under arrest at that time. A second suspect, Rashan Nicholas, date of birth
8583, also physically interfered with the officers pushing Sergeant King back. As Sergeant King attempted to push the suspect away from the unknown female suspect, Nicholas smacked Sergeant King's hands away multiple times. At that point, recognizing that the scene had become volatile and presented a significant officer safety hazard. Sergeant King
requested that all available units citywide respond to assist at the scene. After a sufficient number of officers arrived to assist with clearing the crowd and making the scene safe, Sergeant King ordered that suspect Nicholas be placed under arrest. Suspect Nicholas violently resisted, requiring the effort of several officers to force
his hands behind his back and be placed in handcuffs. Another individual identified as Raymond Wolf, date of birth 2777, had been belligerent with officers throughout the incident, yelling at them, refusing to vacate the crime scene despite multiple commands from the officers to do so. Suspect Wolf
stated repeatedly, quote, "I don't got to back up." and stepped up into the face of PO Police Officer Okconor from the Alpha 102 Alpha unit. The officers were forced to physically remove suspect Wolf from the crime scene by pushing him back. Once outside the crime scene, suspect Wolf shouted to police officer
Payne from the Alpha 102 Frank unit that he was quote a [ __ ] [ __ ] Prior to that, suspect Wolf had interfered with officers attempts to place Suspect Muse in the back of a police cruiser. Following the arrest of suspect Nicholas, suspect Wolf again entered the crime scene and refused to leave, continuing to yell and be belligerent
towards officers. At that point, Sergeant King directed that suspect Wolf be placed under arrest. As officers attempted to place Suspect Wolf under arrest, Wolf violently resisted, refusing to place his hands behind his back. Multiple officers were required to physically take suspect Wolf to the ground and force his hands behind his back for handcuffing.
While attempting to secure Alexander and O'Brien, Officer Whan was approached by a female suspect, later identified as Elizabeth Muse. date of birth 9402 in a hostile manner. Officers then placed Miss Hugh placed Muse into handcuffs. Muse then dropped a black clutch style handbag onto the ground at which point
Officer Whan attempted to serve it not knowing Muse's direct involvement with the ongoing investigation. Officer Whan had reasonable suspicion that Muse may have been armed and not want to obtain the black handbag until a proper fisk was frisk was conducted. When officer Whan attempted to pick up the bag, an
unidentifi identified female attempted to pick up the bag, at which point Officer Whan attempted to put his foot on the bag when he was kicked by Muse's shin area in an attempt to stop officer Whan from picking it up. Officers then secured Muse in the back of a Boston police cruiser. Muse then stated
spontaneously that there was no gun in her bag. However, she had drugs on her prior to uh Miranda warnings. Based on the hostile behavior and aggressive bystanders surrounding the cruiser, Officer Santana conducted a quick pat frisk and placed her in the back into the cruiser. Officers were going to release and summons Muse into court.
When she kept coming into the scene, at which point, Sergeant King instructed officers to place her under arrest. When taking Muse out of the rear of the Boston police cruiser 5580, a small plastic bag containing a white powdery substance believed to be cocaine was located underneath Muse. All male suspects in this incident were
transported to Nashville Nashville Street Jail to be booked in usual manner without incident. All female suspects in this incident were transported to Boston Police District 4 to be booked in the usual manner without incident. Suspect Muse to be charged in Boston Municipal Court with uh interfering two counts of
interfering with a police officer, one count of assault and battery on a police officer, one count disorderly conduct, one count drug possession, class B. Suspect Vieira Cabrera to be charged in Boston. municipal court with one count disorderly conduct. Two counts of interfering with a police officer.
Suspect Raymond Wolf to be charged in Boston Municipal Court with one count disorderly conduct, one count interfering with a police officer, one count resisting arrest. Suspect Rashan Nicholas to be charged in Boston Municipal Court with one count interfering with police officer. One count disorderly conduct, one count
resisting arrest, one count A&M on a police officer. Suspect Jaquan Alexander to be charged by the Harry one 111 Alpha in Boston Municipal Court with uh carrying a firearm without a license, carrying a fire a loaded firearm without a license, having possession of
ammunition without an FID card. It should be noted the original 911 call stated that victim Du Verso was inside of Tiki Rock. Officers canvased the area inside of Tiki Rock to no avail. however, could observe visible signs of smoke as well as a strong odor of what
they believed to be marijuana. Additionally, when suspect O'Bryant was stopped while she was entering the white Honda Pilot, suspect O'Bryant was observed to be in possession of two blue cups of a clear alcoholic beverage that she stated she had snuck out of the tiki bar. District A1 detectives notified for purposes of conducting a code 35
licensed premise inspection of tiki bar. Sorry. Drugs logged into Boston police drug control log book 0100014 page 20. Lisha O'Bryant 32684 Niga Baker 616003 and Jaquan Alexander 83102. All
to be charged respect uh which should say respectively out of district C11 as it relates to Boston police incident number I252097813. Body warn camera was activated. And then my supplemental report about 6:37 PM on Wednesday, November 19th,
2025, Sergeant King, Alpha 915, conducted actionection code 35 of Tiki Rock at Broad Street, Boston. Relative to the events enumerated in the original incident report, Sergeant King issued a violation on license premise inspection notice 059125 for serving intoxicated persons, patrons
leaving with alcoholic beverages, and possession of class D marijuana on premise. Employ employee Brandon Lamb received the violation notice in hand. Thank you very much King. I do see that officer Whan who responded uh is with us. If I could just swear you in briefly in case the board does have any
questions for you. Um do can you please raise your right hand? >> Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you very much. Um hang tight. The board may have some questions for me after we hear from the lency. Mr. McMillan, Mr. Lamb, Mr. Nelson, would you like to uh respond to the election
incident? >> Yes. Um I'll start. The officers initially showed up at Tiki. I can't speak on what happened prior to they said that the incident originated from Dublin House. We have no knowledge of
that. So I I'm not even going to attempt to speak on what they had occur over there. I do know that when the officers showed up, they showed up probably about nine deep. Um I was working the door. When they showed up, our doors were
locked. there was nobody that could have got in that came to the area after 100 a.m. They didn't tell us what was going on. They said that they were looking for somebody that they had had an individual call for help. Um and and I'm a little
confused because the officer said that he met the victim down by 40 Broad Street. We're at the beginning of Bard Street 2, which is two blocks away from where they met him. But they said that he was inside of Tiki. He couldn't have
been in both places at the same time. And he was in front of the vehicle that this individual that had pulled the gun on him was standing in front of, which is two blocks away from us as well. Um, when the officers said that they were looking for an individual, we cooperated
fully, come right in. They came in and canvased and looked around, they didn't see either the victim or the individual that they were looking for. Um, and when they asked us about it, again, we gave the information that they
had asked. There was nobody in there that fit the description. We didn't we didn't know anything else to do because again, we didn't know about the circumstances surrounding it until after we received the report. Um what happened at that point where the
officers left they went down to where the vehicle was parked uh which is two blocks away from us and from what I could observe after individuals started being let out because we clear the area in front of
our property to make sure that there's there's nobody hanging around. the entire area down by Milk Street had been yellow taped off so that none of the none of the people leaving
could get to their cars, which was a little confusing in itself. To address the girl with the blue cups, Tiki Rock doesn't doesn't pour alcohol in blue cups. Our policy, we have clear cups for any beverages that we have
other than the the tiki drinks which are in mugs that we keep in house. Um, the best that I could probably even give for you to that is the young lady said that she got them from Tiki, but it's impossible. We don't have blue
blue plastic cups. It's our policy that everything is in clear cups. The officers came in and they they said that they observed or what they observed to smell was marijuana smoke. People can smoke
outside. They there's people that smoke. It's legal in Massachusetts. I can't control what they do. Um only >> to add to that for Mike, we are directly three steps away from two dispensaries.
I mean, we have one directly in front of us and we have one directly on our side. It's one of those things where the picking up on a urban clientele that has the smell of smoke. It's just kind of
interesting that most writeups that's not something that comes up, but because of the clientele, all of a sudden it's the smell of smoke inside the building. That just seems super inappropriate. >> I'm sorry. Whating, sir? >> Pardon?
>> What is he alleging? Um, >> I'm just saying that we have two dispensaries right next to us and the clientele smelled of smoke. That just seems kind of crazy. >> Thank you. Is there anything further that the lency would like to provide to the board before the board asks
questions? And any further testimony, Mr. McMillan, Mr. Lamb, Mr. Nelson? >> No, sir. >> Okay. I see shaking heads. We will see at this time if the board has any questions for the lency or the sergeant or officer who are here with us. Chairman Joyce, any questions?
>> I Yes, I have questions. I'm going to focus on the dispersal um at the end of the night of Tiki Rock and I want to start with Officer Whan. Thank you for joining us today. Can you describe in your own words, we heard the police report right into the record what the dispersal was like at the end of the
night um from the >> Yes, ma'am. So obviously as a report state, excuse me, as a report stated, we were focusing on a specific vehicle based on a call that originated out of Dublin House. And me specifically, I was focused on the car with three other
officers giving an exit order. And originally, it was fine. It was just that group. And then I don't know if the bar let out or a bunch of people just decided to leave. But once we handcuffed the individuals in the vehicle, it got
very hectic very fast. Um, you know, everyone was getting people were getting in the faces of officers, sergeants, at which point also noted in the report, Sergeant King called for many additional units. I I can't tell you off the top of my head how many were there, but it's probably the most officers I've seen on
a call since I've been on in my two and a half years. So, it was very hectic, very fast. >> Okay. Um you can you guesstimate how many people were involved in this hectic scene?
>> Um I think in total we arrest I don't have the report in front of me but I think it was somewhere around seven or eight people were arrested. Um there was probably I don't know I'd say 50 people out there maybe more maybe less. Okay,
thank you very much. Um, my following questions are from someone for someone from Tiki Rock. Um, again, focusing on your dispersal plan at the end of the night. Describe for me how you this is this happened at 1:44 a.m. Describe for me and the other
commissioners what the dispersal plan is at the end of the night. Generally at the end of the night when we open the doors to let individuals leave and they were actually the officers were actually still at Tiki at 1:44. That's when they I'm I'm trying to
figure out the time frame that they had set up because I opened the doors approximately 5 minutes or two an individual started dispersing. Um that's that's typical fashion. They go out they go back to their vehicles. We we make
sure. >> Can I ask you to back up just in general? >> Yes. >> What time do you turn the lights on? What time does the music get turned off? What time do you start telling people to to file out? >> The music gets turned off 15 minutes before closing. So about 1:45 the lights
come on and between 1:45 and 10 minutes of the music is shut off and we start dispersing. >> Okay. And uh you know how many staff are involved in that? Is it security? Like walk me through that. Those are the
things the board is trying to figure out. If you could just describe for us. >> We carry on on a night like that there was seven security. >> Okay. And are they inside? Are they outside? Are they telling people go to your cars, get away from the front door,
disperse the line, move on, move on? >> In the beginning, it's folks, we're closed. It's time to exit the building so that we can shut down. Once the majority of the crowd is outside, half the staff will go if they're lingering around the
establishment. We disperse them. We let them know that they're there people that live actually above us so that there's no hanging out. People generally tend to walk back to their vehicles at that point. Um it's usually a 10 to 15 minute
process to get everybody out and to to clear the frontage of the building. >> Okay. And you actively work on clearing the front of the building? >> Yes. >> Okay. Commissioner Karina or Commissioner
Saxon, do you have any questions? >> Yeah, I think uh probably for the officer. Um where there was an area that was taped off, right? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Where was that? Um, so from what I
remember, it was maybe like 10 feet past where the the vehicle we were looking for was and we just like it was starting to get hectic. So, we tried to put up the tape and just keep people back so we could have our area. Obviously, there was a firearm involved. We don't
>> try to keep people back for our safety, their safety. and we set up the tape and we basically had it running from uh one end of the street across the street in an attempt to keep people back, but things just got out of hand.
So I think I think it was ripped down at one point if I remember correctly. >> I'm not sure by who, but >> and that was where the the car was parked which was a a little bit down Broad Street if I'm
>> Yes, sir. I believe I believe it was 40. >> Yeah. >> 40. >> So, Tiki Rock the the bar is is it not on the same block as 40 Broad Street?
>> Um trying to remember it. It's close. I think it's >> it might be one one or two blocks down, but it's it's close. And that's where like the confusion was when the call came in. obviously person with a gun. It was there was some confusion whether the
victim or the suspect was at Tiki Rock and then it came through, you know, more knowledge that the victim was actually at 40 Broad Street, which is where we met him and he was right next to the vehicle that we were looking for.
>> Okay. I'm just trying to >> Ladies and gentlemen, if I may interject, 40 Broad Street is two blocks away from Tiki Rock. We're at the corner of State Street. The uh where the vehicle was is at the
corner of Milk Street. >> Okay. Is it on the other side of Milk Street? >> Um no, it's it's at the corner of um where where the um
the sports bar is in the parking lot. >> Warehouse. warehouse. >> Okay. So, 40 Broad Street, the building, it's a large building. It takes up the whole It takes up the whole block between
uh Central and Milk, right? >> Uh correct. So, >> and Mr. Mr. Mr. Nelson, you were trying to clarify, so I'll ask you. Takes up the whole block, right? >> Um, to the best of my knowledge, the
warehouse restaurant is on the opposite end down by Milk though. That's where I believe the vehicle was. >> So, you're stating specifically this vehicle was at the end of the building at Milk Street. >> That is correct. >> But not on the other side of Milk
Street. >> No. Okay, thank you. So that >> Oh, you're on mute. Commissioner, you're on mute right now. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I keep clicking into a different window. Sorry. Uh essentially, depending on how you gauge it, it's you know, it's
really just on the other side of Central Street, right? >> Yeah. Where where that actually happened, it was probably a football field away from us. >> All right. I appreciate that. Um, do you guys have any video inside?
>> We have some, but the incidents that all took place are so far away from us that we have no video of that stuff. >> Yeah, but you were written up for um serving over o over sererving or serving and intoxic intoxicated patrons. Uh,
patrons leaving with with drinks, right? So, you have any video that would be relevant for that? I went back to try to grab that video after the fact and because of the time frame in between the hearing now and the point of when it happened I don't have
that video but I also to the extent of the issues that you have brought up. I reprimanded bartenders at the night of we signed the violation at the overs serving and we also as far as the cups
I'm the one that orders them. It is in the three years that I've been here too expensive to have colored cups. It's almost 50 cents more. I've never had >> Sir, when were you written up for uh
serving to patrons and patrons leaving the second day? >> Okay. So, you could have looked for a video that would have spoke to those violations when you were written up for those violations, right? Yes.
>> Okay. Why didn't you? >> Because of the fact that I just followed the violations and started dealing with the issues at the point when they were given to us. >> Okay. You were essentially accused of allowing patrons to leave without alcohol. Right.
>> So on the violation, it never stated anything about the color of the cups. I >> I'm not talking about what was cited as being uh evidence of people leaving. You were accused of allowing patrons to leave with
alcohol. Correct. >> So, without looking at the violation, because I got to go back and look at it. I don't remember there being a write up about anybody leaving with alcohol. The violation was it overserving. We didn't see anything about people leaving with alcohol until we received
the police report, which was far after any of this stuff had happened. Mr. Chairman, I can violate the record if you want. >> Can you hear me? >> We can hear you. Sorry. Thank you,
Sergeant. One moment. I think uh the commissioner is reading the the violation as we speak. >> Okay, very good. Okay. The violation says uh arrested suspect was in possession of two cups of alcohol that she stated
she had got from Tiki Rock. >> Okay. So then I I I'm I'm wrong about that. I'm sorry. >> Okay. So that I mean I guess if you answer the question I'll I'll I'll make a
statement. the when you receive a a violation, the the we expect you to react to that violation appropriately. And and for me, one of the appropriate reactions when you've been accused of allowing patrons
to leave with alcohol, for example, or you've been accused of multiple patrons exiting heavily intoxicated, if you have security footage, I would expect someone in your position would want to prove their innocence by showing
us video that people weren't leaving with alcohol, that people weren't being served while intoxicated. And when you don't do that search, I don't think that that uh is a good I'm not going to uh draw a a good inference
from that. I'm going to draw a negative inference from that. >> If I may, um they they said people were leaving heavily intoxicated and overs served. Nowhere in any of this incident does it say that anybody was arrested
for being overly intoxicated. >> That that's not that's not required, sir. Okay. I'm I'm only asking because I know that a lot of the individuals were um arrested for disorderly. There there wasn't anybody that was stumbling in any of their reports from what I saw any of
that as well. Um and again, I I I'm speak as as a rule of thumb, we try to as with the security, we try to keep an eye on that and we address that as we have in the past. Um,
and and I want to apologize for us not having um the the video that that you're requesting. um in in the midst of again just trying to figure out and and and it's my negligence for
the the the blue cup thing where it's obviously the young lady lied to the officer about where she got the alcohol because that's not what we serve and how or how we serve. Um again, that's for the the board's discretion.
Um and also with with the officers that came there they again they were so deep that we had no issues with by all means come look for the individual but as a policy
as well we close the doors at 1:00 a.m. There's nobody else allowed in after that point in time. The only time the only individuals that did come in were the officers when they came in to look for the uh suspect I guess who they thought was at Tiki who as we find out
was actually at 40 Broad Street. He wasn't inside of Tiki or the individual that they were looking for. When they looked they said they they searched for him and didn't find him there but they seen him walking back to the vehicle after. >> Okay, Mr. Mr. Nelson, this happens all
the time. >> Yes. >> Sometimes what the police are focused on is not the same things that we're going to focus on and we expect the premises to be focused on our violations and the evidence that is going to be relevant to
those. Okay. You're talking a lot about criminal activity, the the investigation that they were doing. That's reasonably where their attention is. Okay. They're focused on reports of a gun, uh, you know, and trying to get that
investigation done. But you, regarding the licensing board, were written up for other things that had nothing to do with the gun. Okay. >> What I'm saying is you need to take those allegations seriously and react in
a manner that would indicate that seriousness to us. And one of those reactions is to get the video. And video, you know, for the most part in in this age of AI, maybe whatever, but
shouldn't lie, right? It should tell the story of whether people were leaving with cuffs. >> Absolutely. Whe >> whether people were falling out the door, stumbling. Okay. These are the issues that are
relevant to us, not how many people, how many police showed up in in regards to this criminal investigation that was rightfully the focus of their efforts. Okay. But that should have all been sorted out
after the fact. What what you guys needed to do in response to what was alleged against you regarding license premise violations. I have video that I don't know would be relevant, but I'll go and look and try to pull it up to give it to the board if that helps in
any way, shape, or form of the said night. >> Okay, I think that's all I have. Thank you. >> Yeah, not to pile on, but I I actually um agree with Commissioner Curran there. Um I think that uh internal
investigation is really just trying to get at the truth. whether you're trying to um generate a defense or to train your retrain your employees or to figure out whether you need to fire or reprimand an employee. It's really um
the outcome is what it is, but um it really should be to get at the uh truth and to a part of your due diligence process um after there is any event. uh Curran and Saxton, I I agree with you
and I I am on board with the situation. The way that I've always handled GMing and dealing with issues, especially of a violation type, is instead of looking at it like it is me defending against the
situation, I instantly take that as something that I hold that we had done wrong. I just do it that way. So when it came to the violation of the overs serving, I instantly went to the staff that had been working that night, reprimanded them and put them on a
training procedure to make sure that they were serving correctly going forward. As far as the violation of the cups outside in circumstances of let out, we have definitely always put staff, especially
security at the door to make sure that no patrons are leaving with a cups. So for them to be found with alcohol outside, it really was something that we have to look at. you know, were they
leaving with jackets that they might have been able to conceal those kind of alcohol, things like that? >> Can I stop you there real quick, sir? >> Yeah. Yep. >> All right. If you had if you gave us video of that actually occurring, you having employees posted and and watching
and confronting it really wouldn't even you you wouldn't be found in violation if people did get past. It's it's more about the effort. But you got to prove it to us. You can't just tell tell it to us. >> I'll get the video. I'll I'll get the video for you because we have somebody posted at the exit doors every night.
So, >> do you have a video of that night? This night? >> I'll I'll go back and find the video for you. Absolutely. I will. >> Okay. So, it's not lost due to the time passage. >> It shouldn't be. No. >> Okay. I thought I heard something to that effect. No, I I think that he was
asking about or or make a reference to outside because outside I don't have any video of we don't have we don't have >> I mean that video would be would be helpful of the night of the of the let out. >> Okay. >> If you have employees posted making
efforts to make sure people aren't leaving. >> So >> for me I'm speaking for myself if you show me the efforts I I don't really care if someone actually made it out. >> So Mr. current. The building actually has two video systems. One being from
the one indica side of things and that's the one facing towards the Milk Street and then we have our internal one. I can I can get the internal video but the one for the one Milk Street we don't have access to that one anymore. >> Okay. I mean if you have anything send
it over uh >> especially with regard to to let out what it looked like and what you guys were doing what efforts you were being made. >> Okay. Okay, thank you. >> Thank you. Are there any further questions from the board? With that, please do forward any video
that you do have of the dispersal of the evening of November 18th. You can forward that directly to licensing board at boston.gov. If the file is too large, it can be dropped off in a thumb drive to room 809 Boston City Hall. With that, the board will take this under advisement. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Calling item number six, Massachusetts Sports Service, Inc. doing business as TD Garden, located at 100 Legends Way. date of the incident November 22nd 2025 person under 21 in possession of alcohol in violation of mass general laws chapter 138 to sections 34A 34 C and 6464A who's present on behalf of the
lency >> good morning madam chair members of the board attorney green Kristen Scanland for the lency with us also this morning is John joins who's the senior director of security at TD garden as well as Eric Rivers who is the general manager of TD garden sports service
>> thank you very much who is present on behalf of the Boston police department. >> Uh, sir, Officer Whan, District A1. Thank Are there any other individuals with firsthand knowledge of the alleg incident who wish to testify this morning? >> Chip Gallagher wrote the LPV. >> Thank you, sir. Gallagher, can you all
please raise your right hand? Do you favor to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> I do. >> I do. >> Thank you. Officer Will, if you could please read the report into the record for the board. >> Yes, sir. Um about 9:10 p.m. on Saturday 11:225
officers Whan and Walsh assigned to a paid detail made an arrest at 100 Legends Way Boston TD Garden. Officers Whan and Walsh were flagged down by TD Garden security personnel who stated they had stopped two individuals for underage drinking inside of the venue.
Officers spoke with the suspect identified as Evan Bishop, date of birth 219 2007, who was initially upset with being approached. Bishop provided TD Garden with his identification. A female member of TD Garden Security was attempting to make Bishop call his
parents so they could speak with them and inform them of the situation. However, they did not answer. Officer Whan was then going to escort Bishop out of the building as he was 18 years of age. When guard and security became hostile with officers on scene and were advised by the female security guard,
she was, and I quote, going to get a captain up here and there was an issue with BPD. Officer Whan then asked the same security guard if Bishop's parents answered the phone, to which she stated, and I quote, "Don't worry about it. I got it." Officer Whan then recognized
the situation start to become escalated and then requested a Boston police supervisor via Boston Police Operations Channel 2 to load 19. Officer Whan again reminded Bishop that he could not consume alcohol as he was not 21, to which he agreed, but was concerned with
the female security guard holding his cell phone and she would not give it back to him. Uh, Captain Heggerty, who is the Echo Charlie 1, and Sergeant Silta, who is the Yankee 912, arrived on scene, at which point Officer Whan informed them of the ongoing situation. Officers were
then advised by Captain Hagerty to deactivate their body one cameras while consulting with the supervisors in accordance with Boston police rule rule 405, section 2.8, which states supervisory counseling outside of the immediate contact with civilians. officers should reactivate their body
one camera when law enforcement related civilian conduct is resumed. While consulting with supervisors, Bishop then began to start verbally abusing security staff members, stating, and I quote, "Fuck you. [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you." Bishop then began to slam his head
off the wall adjacent to the women's restroom outside of Loge 19. Bishop was then separated by Sergeant Silta, where Sergeant Silta attempted to deescalate Bishop to no avail. Bishop was being verbally irate, causing a disturbance inside of the arena's concourse level.
Bishop then attempted to walk away from Sergeant Silta. Under the direct order of the Yankee 912, Sergeant Silta, officers placed Bishop under arrest. Prior to making the arrest, officers on scene reactivated their body one cameras in accordance with uh BPD rule 405.
Officers then escorted Bishop downstairs to the loading dock area where he was then transported to the Nasha Street jail by the Alpha 103 Frank officers Ortiz Aras in Dpina to be booked in the usual manner. Bishop to be charged in Boston Municipal Court with the following uh disorderly conduct chapter
272 section 53 and uh our body one cameras were activated. >> Thank you very much Detective Gallagher. >> Yes. Uh on 11:26 25 about 1:15 p.m. Sergeant Detective William Gallagher. Detective Eddie Hernandez assigned to
license premise unit met with Mr. Merrick Rivers of the Tiny Garden to discuss incident that occurred on 11:22 at about 11:50 p.m. during the Maroon 5 concert. Mr. River stated that he was aware of the incident stating TD god's
investigation believed that it was a pass off of alcohol from someone over 21. As a result what transpired after the 18-year-old was thought BPD placed the male under arrest. BPD A1 informed the license premise unit of the incident. As a result, SD Gallagher
issued license premise inspection notice number 055 032 to the TD garden for person under 21 possession of alcohol on premise. Mr. Eric Rivers signed for and accepted the notice. That's my report. >> Thank you very much. Attorney Scanler, would you like to address the alleged
incident? >> Uh, please. If I may just ask officer Whan a few questions, >> ma'am. >> Thank you. Uh, officer, you were working paid detail the evening of November 22nd, 2025 at TD Garden. Correct.
>> Yes, ma'am. >> And the subject patrons in this instance, um, one were one male and one female. They were initially brought to your attention by TD Garden security personnel. Correct. >> Uh yes, ma'am.
>> At that time, staff indicated to you that they had stopped two patrons or these two patrons for suspected under 21 possession of alcohol. Correct. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And at that time, uh once it was brought to your attention, you quickly learned
that the patrons who were stopped by staff were in fact under 21. Correct. Yes, ma'am. >> One being identified as Evan Bishop with a date of birth of February 19th, 2007, making him 18 years old at the time. >> Yes, ma'am.
>> Upon either observation or information provided by the male patron andor security staff, you learned that staff was attempting to have the patron contact a parent via phone. Correct? >> Uh, yes, ma'am. The male patron at one
point handed the supervisor his phone so she could call the parent. Correct. >> Uh yes ma'am. >> And you were informed at one at some point during that interaction that the purpose of the phone call was in compliance with the lency policy to
notify or at least attempt to notify parents that their child was being ejected for being in possession of alcohol on the premises. Correct. >> Yes ma'am. And as this um situation progressed, both you and the security supervisor
called for BPD captain and additional security managers to respond to the scene for further collaboration on how to proceed given what the supervisor understood the building policy to be. Correct. >> Yes, ma'am. >> When Captain Heggerty and Sergeant Silta responded to the scene and you were all
speaking, the male patron started verbally abusing staff members as indicated in your report. >> Yes, ma'am. And he was screaming profanities at them. >> Uh, yes, ma'am. >> At one point you observed him slamming his head off the wall. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And at this point, you observed Sergeant
Sila attempting to calm him down without success. Correct. >> Uh, yes. He uh pulled him off to the side away from where we were and was trying to deescalate, but he just wasn't having any of it. >> Um, when that u deescalation wasn't
successful, Mr. Bishop attempted to walk away from the sergeant. Correct. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And thereafter, Mr. Bishop was placed under arrest for disorderly conduct. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you very much, Officer Whan. No further questions at this time. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Madam Chair, members of the board, if I
may, um, this particular evening at the garden was a Maroon 5 concert. Um, these two patrons, uh, under 21 were found to be in possession by alcohol compliance staff as was indicated in the police report and cons confirmed by Officer
Will's testimony. Um the incident report authored by the supervisor who directly handled the matter was submitted to the board prior to to today's hearing. She was unable to attend today, but I if the board feels necessary can provide a further statement in addition to her report if required. However, as her
report indicates, um these two patrons initially lied to alcohol compliance officers who stopped them claiming to not have any identification. that particular staff member who stopped them initially uh flagged another employee who flagged a female supervisor to tend
to the matter. Once the female supervisor responded, uh the patrons thereafter admitted to being 18 years old, but continued to um lie to the supervisor and claimed that uh they had no identification on them. It was
obvious at that time to the supervisor that the female patron had an ID in the back of her phone that she was holding. So, she asked her to see it. Uh, at this point in time is when the male patron initially became argumentative uh telling the female that she didn't have to show anything. But the supervisor
proceeded to explain the alcohol policy of the LE that they were in fact under 21. Therefore, they're requesting ID to prove that they were at least 18. Um, that indication is a little important here because this the policy is
different for if they're under 18 versus 18, 19, or 20 years old. Um, the supervisor also noticed a wallet in the male patron's pocket and asked to take it out to show ID and he again refused. That's when the male announced that he
was going to walk out, which is when BPD was called to assist and that's when officer Whan responded. Um, as indicated in his report, the male then handed uh officer Whan his ID, which was then handed to the supervisor. Due to Mr.
Bishop's age and the female patron that was with him as per the alcohol policy of the Lency, the supervisor informed the male that she needed to speak to a parent. Uh, the male was reportedly calling her, his mother, but she wasn't
answering. The male then handed the supervisor his phone almost as if to say, "Here, you try. She's not answering." And the supervisor, it tried to continue to call the mother, ultimately leaving her a voicemail explaining the situation at hand. And
shortly after, she gave the patron his phone back. Uh the supervisor then asked the female to do the same thing. The male again was telling the female that she didn't have to comply. Uh the supervisor explained again, this time in the presence of Boston police that what
the alcohol policy was due to the fact that they were under the age of 21. At that point, the detail officer said they didn't have to give information and let them leave as officer Whan um indicated in his report. This particular supervisor has been at this venue for 15
years. She is an exemplary employee. She diligently applies and enforces the lenc's policies and procedures, especially when it comes to alcohol compliance and uh patron safety and liability for underage patrons found to be in possession. The supervisor here was trying to do her job by the letter
of the book and upon respectful disagreement on site detail captain was called along with security managers which is also per policy. Um, the male patron, as the report and testimony indicated, became incredibly agitated
during this time, hit a wall. He was told to calm down several times, uh, proceeded to escalate his behavior, and he was ultimately arrested, as the report indicated, for disorderly conduct. Shortly after that, the male's mother showed up at the location uh who
was attending the show with her son, and it was later determined that she was responsible for the pass off to her son and the female patron. Contact thereafter was also made with the female's parent um who was then ejected from the building. In this particular
instance, staff did everything they should have done under the circumstances. They intently observed crowds for non-compliance with alcohol laws and regulations, approached the two patrons who appeared young um and were in possession of alcohol beverages, called uh supervisors as well as Boston
police to assist. Um, as per Lency policy, any patron in the 18 to 20 range found in possession, um, the lences policy, in particular, from a safety standpoint, as well as a liability standpoint, is to call parents to notify them to the extent those particular
patrons will cooperate. If they're in possession and not uh under the influence, their policy is to eject them. In the event the patron is thought to be under the influence, they take them to first aid and evaluate them and wouldn't let them leave without someone.
Um, with fortunate diligence of the alcohol compliance team in this instance, they uh, more often than not catch them on a pass off or purchase. In these instances, they're rarely intoxicated, and if they are, they they're likely doing it before they get to the facility. Uh the record here
supports the staff was aware and attentive to not only the pass off and possession here, but the handling of the situation as well and appropriately called police for further assistance at two separate times dealing with the same patrons. This was by the book as far as handling an incident during a garden
event is concerned. There's no evidence or allegation here of any employee or agent of the garden serving alcohol to an underage person. rather in this instance was found and confirmed again to be a pass off by a parent of the male. Uh all staff employed here are trained in alcohol compliance specifically to observe patrons for any
visible signs of impairment and monitor and ensure no service to minors uh occurs and to also eliminate passoffs. Uh we respectfully submit that this was done here in this instance. That being said, we're happy to answer any questions or address any concerns the
board might have at this time. Thank you very much. We will see if there are any questions. Chairman Joyce, uh, >> thank you for all that information. Um, so you're saying the fe described in the police report, the female security guard you're referring to as a supervisor, >> correct?
>> Okay. And she couldn't make it here today. >> She couldn't. >> Okay. Um, so can you address it's it's in the police report um that she told officer Whan, "Don't worry
about it. But I got it. It sounds like she was they didn't see eye to eye about what should be done there. I mean, I could infer that she was giving Officer Will a hard time. So, can you explain that to me? >> I know that and John can um certainly testify to this as well based on his
discussions with her and like we said, we can provide additional statement if necessary or certainly officer Whan provide his perspective. But it was my understanding that, you know, she certainly wasn't trying to be disrespectful or disagree, but explained that this was how the Lency, you know,
in a in a private building handles these matters from number one, a safety standpoint and number two, a liability standpoint where they don't want um people who are under the age of 21 simply to walk out of the building without a parent at least being attempt
uh to be notified. Um obviously, yes, they are adults. I think everyone agrees on that over the age of 18 from a legal standpoint, but to the extent that they can get folks to cooperate that are 18, 19 or 20 years old per their policy, um that they're not leaving alone,
especially um in the in an instance where they may be impaired. Not necessarily the case here, but nonetheless, she was trying to abide by uh a policy she's enforced uh in the building for 15 years. Um, I'm not sure
if officer Whan was aware of that policy at the time. He did testify he's aware of that now. Um, I don't certainly want to speak for him. So, I think he could do that, too. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, I work TD Garden events. I work the overnight, so I try to pick up the garden as much as I can.
I'm there all the time. Um, I would say I have a pretty good relationship with everybody there. You know, security grabs us, we do our job, and we're more than happy to help. And on this instance, I was approached and we attempted to do our job and, you know,
rather than, you know, say, "Excuse me, like the policy is typically xyz, I felt like she came in a little hot and I didn't want to get into, you know, an argument in front of a bunch of people in the garden. So, I just called my supervisor where the policy was
explained to me and that was all I really needed. And I'm I don't I don't want to badmouth anybody. We work there all the time. We have a good relationship. I just if it was explained a little better to me. I don't I don't think it would have gone out of hand as
it did. I feel like maybe we could have just contacted his mother and we could have escorted him out. But obviously Mr. Bishop chose a different route and he was placed under arrest. So I I just think it was a small disagreement. That's all.
>> Okay. Um, thank you for your um, perspective on that and thank you attorney Scanland for explaining that. As you know, that is a very important policy and it's one that I've talked to you and your team about on more than one
occasion because we don't want to see underage people just being let out the door intoxicated in the cold and um, their parents not notified. So I do appreciate that if it's possible because you do have different detail officers
coming and going that that be explained from the bottom up, top down, whatever it should be, but that is a really important policy because in the past there have been allegations, I don't know if they've been proven or not, that young people are being um escorted out
or shown out the back door and um we want to make sure that does not happen and that there is some sort of um evaluation in place as far as whether or not um they are able to um leave safely and we want everyone to get home safely
after these um events at the garden. Um that's helpful, but I do think that should be some sort of a communication improvement. >> Understood. >> Um I have no other questions. Commissioner Cara, Commissioner Saxon,
>> I have nothing to add. Thank you. >> None from me. Thank you. Thank you. If there are no further questions and the board will take this matter under adisement as well. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Calling item number seven, Anchovy's acquisition limited partnership doing business as Anchovies located at 433
Columbus A. Date of the incident November 29th, 2025. Blocked fire exit in violation of Mass General 138 section 64 and boards rule 1.06A. Overcrowding capacity 64. House count 73. Police count 80 in violation of me general law chapter 138 section 64 and boards ro
1.03J 1.06A and F who's present on behalf of the lency. >> Uh my name is Richard. >> Thank you very much. Who is present on behalf of the Boston Police Department? >> I am Detective Hernandez. Are >> there any other individuals with
firsthand knowledge of the alleged incident who wish to testify this morning? >> Detective William Gallagher if need be. >> Thank you. Can you all please raise your right hand? Do you sort of tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. I do. >> I do. >> Thank you. Detective Hernandez, you may please proceed.
>> Good morning. I'm going to be reading from a police report which I wrote on Saturday, November 29, 2025. Shine detective William Gallagher and Detective Eddie Hernandez assigned to the BPD license premise unit responded to Anne Choies at 433 Columbus Avenue
for a prior 311 complaint. the complaint, excuse me, the reporter alleged that they observed underage um drinking occurring inside the establishment. As detectives entered the premise, they observed it to be crowded with patron
standing by the bar behind the seated patrons filling up most of the floor space. Detectives inquired with the door staff as to the count capacity. The staff member said that there was about about 73 patrons in the pre
Detective Hernandez conducted a mechanical count which resulted in 80 persons observed. The listed capacity of anchovies is 64. Detectives relayed these findings to the manager, Miss Karima Cox. In addition,
detectives observed the rear fire exit to be blocked by a table of two patrons. This was also pointed out to Miss Cox. As a result of what was observed, SH detective Gallagher issued license per inspection notice 055035 for blocked fire exit and overcrowding
80 on mechanical count capacity 64. Miss Cox signed for an accepted notice. It should be noted that detectives had been there on two recent occasion and found similar violations. On May 1st, 2025 violation notice 0200050
was issued for the same block fire exit and overcrowding. And on May 31st, 2025, violation 022007 was issued for overcrowding. Um, there is a picture attached uh to the support with the uh
the uh table and chair in question uh in front of that uh rear uh fire exit. That's all. >> Thank you very much. Mr. Terrier, would you like to address the alleged incident? Um, I have had my regular general manager, he had back surgery and has had
a few setbacks and I've been trying to do my best to train everybody and keep everybody um up to their duties and I've in the last couple of months been spending a lot more time there. I've installed another
security system in addition to the one that we have so that I can check things when I'm not there and and trying to just keep everybody up to their duties until my full-time normal GM comes back
and this one slipped through. Uh I don't think that the people that are working know the gravity of when I keep telling them this. I think the door man didn't count the employees as well that night, which put us um a little bit higher than
when he thought that we were not over, but we were. And I'm I'm doing my best to to stay in there and put as much time as I can to uh to keep everybody trained and to keep um to keep us at capacity. We're a small neighborhood restaurant
slash bar. Um it gets very busy. It's a unique place. It gets very busy on the weekends. It's it's hard to have security for every hour that we're open. We do have a door man um for night hours. Um you know, it's not a big place
where we have the means to have, you know, door man and security at all times. Um trying to balance it all and and I apologize. >> Thank you for that. We will see if there are any questions at this time. Chairman
Joyce, >> thank you. I appreciate you addressing that and explaining what's going on. Um these are, you know, difficult times for all uh restaurants. Um uh and I I do think retraining and you
can't retrain enough before shifts, after shifts, or whatever works for your your format. But um I think that is um the best thing any lency can do. Um I don't have any questions. Those are just my comments.
Sometimes it's hard too to retrain the employees when I'm I'm I'm having them put down numbers and it's dollars out of their pockets. So, it's kind of a a constant battle as well where they want a few more people in there to make a few
more dollars. So, I mean, I'm not trying to use it as an excuse, but the retraining and the management falls on me and I'm I'm trying to put the time in. Commissioner Curry and Commissioner Saxon, any questions?
>> I mean, my concern is that the 73 number here is the exact same number as the last time. And if my recollection is correct, it was the number that you were trying to maintain and we had a discussion about, you know, having to uh count employees
and all that, right? Is >> a new door person as well. It's kind of >> Yeah, but why why would that new person be maintaining 73? >> I don't have the answer for that. >> You know, it seems like the last time it
was the number you were trying to maintain over your capacity at 73. So, why are we back to the 73 number again? I don't know if he just didn't start with the staff that night and was just clicking as people were coming in
or trying to do the headcount. >> Okay. Uh I'll go back and watch the the last hearing. Thank you. >> No questions from me. Thank you. >> There are no further questions from the board and the board will take this under adisement as well. Thank you.
>> Thank you. We will take a second call on item number one from this morning's agenda. Sorry to keep you waiting. Attorney Hensler, I I do see that your one of your witnesses is with us. So we will read back into the record. Razorbacks Ley LLC doing business SW Boston located at 100 Stewart Street. Date of the incident October 3rd, 2025.
Failure to cooperate with police not allowing register inspection in violation of mass general laws. Chapter 138 section 64 and board's rule 1.10A and B. Attorney Hunler, if you could just introduce your witness to the board. >> Yes. Uh good morning. Apologies for the uh technical difficulty earlier this
morning, but uh now we have Tom Botszford, the director of operations at the W Hotel. >> Great. Thank you very much. Who is present on behalf of the Boston Police Department? >> Sergeant Detective William Gallagher will read the report of Officer Wells
and Sergeant Shaughnessy not available. >> Thank you very much, Sergeant Gallagher. Mr. Bosford, if you could please raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> I do. Thank you very much. S Gallagher, if you could please read the report to the record of the board.
>> Yes. Uh the first one is from Officer Jordan Wells. Yeah. About 7:59 a.m. on Friday, October 3rd, 2025, Officer Wells and Officer Lassen in the Alpha 103 unit responded to a radio call for investigated person in correlation to
BPD incident report 252 083226 located at 100 Stewart Street, the W Hotel, Boston. Upon arrival, officers spoke with hotel security staff who officied
that why there's sudden appearance to which the staff had returned with a business card from Muhammad Jolie, the director of safety and security for the hotel. Security staff stated to officers that due to their company policy that they could not inform officers if the
person in question has said Thomas Cowins date 31593 was in the location or not. Uh on 103 2025 sign of Shaughnessy issue of license premise violation number 03
7819 for failure to cooperate with police not allowing register inspection violation was handed to manager Tom Bosford who cooperated with the violation notice. Uh this goes back to uh police report
number uh 252083226 and it reads as follows. At about 240 a.m. on Friday 10325 officer Bennett while working at the front desk of Boston Police Station C11 took a walk-in report for a violation of
a restraining order. Victim Emily Phillips stated that she had received multiple phone calls beginning around 1:00 a.m. from the suspect Thomas Cowins whom she stated she had a restraining order against. Victim Phillip stated that the suspect Cowins called him a
phone number and she had not seen before. It was number 857274496. The victim stated that the suspect told her on the phone to come to the W Hotel at 100 Stewart Street in downtown Boston where he was staying. Upon realizing
that it was a suspect on the phone, the victim stated that she hung up the phone. The victim stated the suspect called her numerous times after she hung up. It should be noted that the officer observed the phone number described above calling the victim's phone number and numerous times while at the station.
procedurous inquiry received an active restraining order, the victim Emily Phillips as the plaintiff and suspect Thomas Collins as the defendant that includes a no contact order and that was dated 42825
and that expired on 512 2026 and active warrant was also observed for the suspect. The warrant is as follows. Doc number 257cr1258 administered by the honorable judge Jonathan Ty of Dorchester District
Court. Strangulation or suffocation AB on a family member uh A and B on a family household member. Victim stated that she not feel safe to return to her house on her own accord. The officer inquired if she had any family or friends that she could stay
with. Officer also inquired if she would like a ride to a local shelter or hotel. Victim denied any listed options. Officer Patterson and Donlin and the Harry 104 assisted the victim in an escort to her home. Officers advised the victim not to contact the suspect and
not to and to call 911 if she encounters the suspect. Uh th those are the reports in question. >> Thank you very much. Attorney Hensler, would you like to address the alleged incident? Yes. Uh first I want to thank the board
uh for rescheduling us from the December 16th meeting. Uh we I really appreciate that. Um on this particular incident uh which occurred on October 3rd, 2025, the W Hotel staff uh 100% should have shared
the information uh requested and the W Hotel would first and foremost like to apologize uh for the staff's failure to immediately cooperate with the Boston police on that date. Uh this was a situation where the staff member had never been in this situation before and
they incorrectly but uh in a way perhaps understandably eroded on the side of caution by not giving out info uh that they did not know they were allowed to share. This was wrong but until this point it had never been an issue. This was the first time that anyone at the W
can remember a Boston police detective coming in and asking uh what I'm told is a front desk associate for information. 99% of the time I'm told this request goes through the security office uh who are better equipped and used to dealing
with police uh as opposed to the more customer service facing employees. Um, I'm told that police requests for guest information have come to security uh the security office about 8 to 12 times since Muhammad Jalah uh has been the head of security and they've worked
together in the past on getting police video footage uh both inside and outside uh guest information and and more over the years. Uh so they did have a system in place to cooperate the police uh but it was not used that night. So this incident has clearly shown the W hotel
the need for training in dealing with police for all staff uh front of the house included to ensure speed and efficiency in assisting in Boston police investigations. This instance helped the W Hotel realize that retraining was needed and they've
made a diligent effort to retrain everyone on property so that they uh know a that this is a possibility that people that that the police may request uh information from them uh on a walk-in basis and b uh that staff what staff should do when faced with a police
request uh for information. Um, I can assure the board, uh, Tom can assure the board that if this should happen again in the future, front desk staff, front of the house staff will be able to provide a real-time answer to police without impeding any investigation uh,
so that the police don't frankly leave our property frustrated and that we make the police's job easier uh, as is our our responsibility as a lency in Boston. Uh specifically, uh all front desk staff have been retrained to know that they
100% can and must confirm if a guest is staying at the property. If asked by the Boston police, if the request is for a guest name or names or just whether or not a person is on the property, uh they have to share. They know that. Um and
they have also implemented a clear chain of command system that is in place 24 hours a day, seven days a week uh to escalate a request uh to the security office if the police want more information uh room numbers, addresses, other booking info. Uh this would be
escalated through uh the security office who again have the infrastructure already in place to deal with such requests quickly uh as they have been doing so in the normal course of operations uh for some time now. Everyone on property has been retrained in this way. So we do not foresee this
happening again. Again, we want to apologize. Uh but the incident and the retraining into Spark means uh that there are now uh ironclad systems in place to asssure that staff works better with the police uh going forward. With that uh Tom and I were happy to take any
questions. >> Thank you. We will see if there are any at this time. Chairman Joyce. >> Uh thank you. I have no questions at this time. Commissioner Carer, Commissioner Saxon, any questions? >> No questions. Thank you. >> None from me. Thank you.
>> Thank you. If there are no questions and the board will take this under advisement. Thank you again and thank you for your uh patience waiting through the hearing. Um those are all the items before the board this morning that will adjourn this hearing. Uh the board is set to vote on Thursday because of scheduling conflicts. The vote will be at 3 p.m. Notice will be posted to the
city of Boston's website. That will adjourn this hearing. Thank you all and enjoy the rest of your day. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.