Good morning. Thank you all for joining. We'll give just a moment to clear the waiting room. As a reminder, when you are entering from the waiting room, please do remain on mute unless or until you are presenting or providing testimony before the board. Just another moment as folks are still
entering from the waiting room. Good morning. This is a hearing before the licensing board for the city of Boston. Today is Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. Today's hearing is being held pursuant to temporary amendments to the open meeting law. That is what allows us to meet virtually. Today's hearing is
being recorded and will be posted to the city of Boston's website. Before I review procedural matters, I will introduce chairwoman of the board, Kathleen Joyce. Good morning. My name is Kathleen Joyce. I'm chair of the Boston Licensing Board. Today, I'm joined by Commissioner Liam Currin and
Commissioner Kiana Saxon. Thank you. Please ensure that your audio and visuals are working properly if you will be presenting before the board this morning. I will call each item in the order that it appears on this morning's agenda. I will then ask who is present on behalf of the applicant. You'll make
a brief presentation regarding your proposal followed by questions by the chair and commissioners. After questions, there will be an opportunity for testimony beginning with elected officials or their representatives. For members of the general public wishing to provide testimony, please limit your testimony
to two minutes and please state your name, address, and affiliation if any. Begin with the first item on this morning's agenda. Calling item number one, Keen Couta LLC. doing business as Brassica Kitchen and Cafe located at 3710A Washington Street in Jamaica
Plane. Holder of a common victer 7-day neighborhood restricted all alcoholic beverages license has petitioned to amend the description of the license premise from a one-story building with license premises consisting of approximately 4,460 ft with seating for 126 indoors along with four dining
areas, two bars, kitchen storage, and restrooms. two seasonal patio areas on private property with seating for 25 on patio A and 18 on patio B with a patio closing hour of 10 p.m. Sunday and 11 p.m. Friday and Saturday. Two means of ingress and six means of egress. Two,
the new proposed description premises identified as 3710 to 3712 Washington Street in Jamaica plane. Space A and space B are connected through a vestibule in the rear. Space A, the 3710 Washman Street side is approximately
1,37 square feet with dining area with seating for 26, bar with seating for five, kitchen, storage, and restrooms. And patio A, which is a seasonal April to November, approximately 440T patio on private property, seating for 25. Space B, the 3712 Washington Street side is
approximately 3,161 square ft with three dining areas with seating for 80, bar with seating for 15, kitchen, storage, and restrooms, and patio B, which is a seasonal April to November approximately 227 foot patio on private property seating 18. Patios have a closing hour
of 10 p.m. Sunday through Thursday at 11:00 p.m. Friday and Saturday. Two means of ingress, six means of egress. Attorney Adam Barnoski. Attorney Barnoski. Thank you, Attorney Green. Uh good morning madam chair, members of the board. Adam Barnoski on behalf the lency. With me today is Phil Couta. He's
the co-owner and manager of record along with Rebecca Keane from Brasica. We are here uh regarding a modification for the alteration of premises that was approved by this board in the ABCC in 2013 or 2023 rather. Um as the board will recall
uh Brasa is in the process of combining its restaurant with the adjacent space. It's the former Dogwood space. The original intent uh was to combine these two retail spaces and make them contiguous through an internal uh shared
commonwall. Uh and during construction uh it was determined that that connection was in fact uh unworkable. So the amended plan which was was provided to the board uh creates a rear interior vestibule that connects the premises.
So, it's it's really um more of a floor plan update. There's no uh there's no changes other than uh uh this connection which is now in the rear. Um and the you know this the subject approval and and the the overall intent remains the same.
Uh as part of this as attorney Green went through uh in detail, it was requested that the uh description of license premise be updated as part of it. Um happy to answer any questions the board has. Uh thank you. So is it going to be a
totally different concept in this new space? No. No. Okay. No, it's it's it will be it will be uh it will continue to be Brasa Kitchen, the same restaurant in the Dogwood space. Uh they might utilize
the space that is uh currently Brasa is more of a um a traditional cafe, but it is uh the DBA is the same. And essentially, it's just making the floor uh the floor plan, the seating larger. Okay. Thank you. Um I have no questions.
Commissioner Karin or Commissioner Saxon? No questions at this time. Thank you. No questions. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Yes, madam chair, members of the board, Connor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood
services. This time the mayor's office deferred to the judge of this board. Uh previously this application uh the proposal went through a community process back in 2023 with our office also connecting to the JPNC um which were ultimately supportive of this proposal. Unaware of any concerns at
this time with that we'll defer to the board. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on this matter? I do see a hand raise uh from Michael Riskin. Mr. Ricekin, you may please provide your testimony to the board. Uh my name is Michael Ricekin. I
live at 425 South Huntington Avenue in Jamaica Plane, chair of the public service committee of the Jamaica Plane Neighborhood Council. We had a neighborhood hearing on this issue on September 5th, 2023 and supported it at that time. This
is essentially the same u application with a minor change of the description to have the uh connecting um passage in the rear instead of the front. no change for the community and we fully support
this new description. Thank you. Thank you very much. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on this matter? The board will take this under adisement. Thank you very much. Thank you. Calling item number two. Marquero Marketplace Inc. doing business as
Lambert's Marketplace located at 10 Temple Place. holder of a retail package store wines and all beverages license has petitioned to change the category of the license from a retail package store wines and all beverages to a retail package store all alcoholic beverages license attorney Luke Casses attorney
Cassus. Good morning madam chairman, members of the board, Lewis Casses from Mccario Marketplace. With me is Hanny Gad. He's the operator of the of the store and has been so for the last seven or eight years. Uh back then we applied for a beer and wine license with the support
of the community which was granted by the board. This is an application to change the category from a wine and malt license to an all alcoholic license. And I would note that this will not be an expansion of the the amount the number of alcohol there. It's going to be more of a substitution. Some of the wine will
be removed and some of the all alcohol will be replaced by it. Uh we had previously agreed um to have no nips, no miniatures, no singles and that agreement would would continue to this application. Uh we met with we had a neighborhood meeting and there was no no
opposition. We also met with the uh downtown the right name this the downtown neighborhood association and they've written a letter of support with Mr. Gad. He's been a really good fixture in the community and welll liked by all the people there and provides great
service to the community. Mr. Gad's here for any questions if you need to ask. Uh thank you attorney. Thank you for joining us. Mr. Gat, I I did look at the floor plan um when the application came in, but I don't have it in front of me right now. Um I can pull it up, but could you just briefly describe for us
where um I'm familiar with the store where the um alcohol will be. Is it downstairs in the back? No, we are we have in the front in the cashier. We have the cooler in the in the right and in the left and we have a
shelf in the middle. Okay. And and anything it's uh like a liquor liquor maybe going to put me behind my counter for the safety. It'll be behind the counter. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Um and you will continue to um and you'll add no nips, no miniatures, and no singles. No, no, no singles. Okay. What do you um currently have for ID verification? Okay. We have the system uh for the the
cash registers, we always when anyone purchase, we have the check the data purse and also we have the app we using. I can explain to you. So I have all the people work with me has it one
second. Okay. I'm going to show you here his name. His name product application. We can this way here. Sorry this app. Okay. We can have to scan it the ID.
Okay. And that's updated. You up you keep that's from that's from FDA. Okay. Um I just urge you to stay on top of the updates and we've been having beer and wine. I'm sorry. Uh for more than six years we
didn't get any verification about the age or anything like this. Okay. I just urge you to keep the app updated on your scanner because sometimes they go out of date and you have to update them regularly. Yeah,
thank you for that. Um, Commissioner Cara, Commissioner Saxon, I have no questions at this time. Thank you. No questions. Thank you. Thank you very much. Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter, beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Yes, madam chair,
members of the board, Connor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood services. This time the mayor's office is deferred to the judgement of this board. Some background information the community process ons had held in a butters meeting on April 7th was likely attended. Um as you heard the applicants committed to not selling nips and
singles. Um the applicant was connected to the downtown Boston neighborhood association which was supportive of this proposal and information on the proposal was also shared uh with the uh downtown the downtown business association as well. Uh with that information, we'll
defer to the board. Thank you. Good morning, madam chairs and members of the board. Laura Toadaniano here from councelor Flynn's office. At this time, the counselor would like to go in record in support of this proposal. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on
this matter? Board will take this under adisement as well. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Calling item number three, Pasta Beach Rosearf LLC. doing business as Pasta Beach located at 30 Rose Wararf. Holder of a common bitchel or 7-day all alcoholic beverages license has petitioned to
transfer the license from the above to 1928 Boston Harbor LLC doing business as 1928 Rose Wararf at the same location. Kristen Jenkins manager 1:00 a.m. closing hour. applicant has also petitioned to update the description of the premise as follows to
5,333 square feet total 2953 square feet on ground floor with main dining area and bar seating. Kitchen and storage and rear mezzanine level for additional equipment and storage. Two entrances exits off Atlantic A. Additional entrance exit on northern side of premises.
2350T annual patio on private property with seating for 70. Closing hour 11 p.m. Attorney Kristen Scanland. Attorney Scanland. Good morning, Madam Chair, members of the board, Attorney Green, Kristen Scandlin for the applicant. Signed on with me this morning is owner and proposed manager of record, Kristen
Jenkins. Um, by way of a notation, Kristen has been previously approved by this board and the ABCC um as manager of record at her other establishment, 1928 in Beacon Hill. Uh this particular application before you this morning is a transfer of an all
alcohol beverage license at the same location at iconic Rose Wararf on the Boston Harbor. The footprint of the space is staying the same both inside and out as is the closing hour at 1:00 a.m. However, there will be an updated concept of course for this location. Uh
just a brief note too on the footprint of the space. I know it it might seem um somewhat larger than the existing lency at that location which is pasta beach but the landlord had done a reme-measurement of the space adding common area to the space which is the
reasoning for the change in the discrepancy in the overall square footage but the envelope itself is exactly the same. Um, by way of background, Kristen Jenkins also owns 1928 Beacon Hill, as I previously mentioned, on Mount Vernon Street, which
initially opened in December of 2021. And since opening of Beacon Hill in 1928 has been the recipient of numerous accolades with inclusion on several best of lists like Open Table, Timeout, Boston Common Magazine, uh most recently
actually receiving the best of Boston's most romantic restaurant at this location. Uh the particular concept for Rose Wararf will essentially be an extension of that concept but with more of a coastal vibe and atmosphere given the location um here on the harbor. The
menu, the look and the feel will otherwise be pretty similar. Uh the menu itself um is kind of seasonal American classic with a focus on local seafood and approachable familiar classics essentially elevated home cooking. Uh
the seating uh proposed for inside is for 59 with an occupancy of 72 which is the same as the existing LE and with 100 uh seats outside. Uh hours operation proposed daily from 11:30 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. serving lunch and dinner. In all
likelihood given the location and the foot traffic um over there they will likely close um probably by 10 or 11 during the week with the extended hours on the weekend. um with Pasta Beach um where it's been nestled into this Rose Wararf location for approximately 15
years. It has served as an anchor restaurant at this location for the hotel, Boston Harbor Hotel, nearby residents, office workers, and thousands of visitors to Boston. Essentially seeking to to do exactly the same as what Pasta Beach has served um very
nicely for this location. Being sandwiched between Atlantic Avenue, across from the Greenway and the harbor, it really is a prime location for a classic concept with approachable offerings with outdoor seating. Um, after some brief cosmetic work, um, which is more a furniture paint um,
situation, uh, they do hope to be open by August or September of this year. That being said, happy to answer any questions or address any concerns the board might have. Uh, thank you for that explanation. I
want to um get a better idea of what the security relationship is between this license premise and the hotel. Who will be responsible should um something come up? It sounds like there's a really big outdoor space as well. Um when we have we've been seeing some of these
restaurants within hotels, some confusion amongst the management over who's responsible should an incident um arise, who should be calling the police, um who's responsible for dealing with um an unruly patron or an unruly um person
um in the license premise. So can you talk to me a little bit about that? Uh Kristen, did you want me to answer that? Sure. I mean I think the short answer is the lency the approved lency would be responsible for that but Kristen if you want to elaborate with any relationship with the hotel as well
please feel free. Sure we've already been in talks and we've you know agreed like our our manager on duty will have be sharing phone numbers and contact information but it would be us. Um, I also have a security team that I've been working with on my other place and that's been going really well and
they're on top of everything and things, you know, I I feel like it can be handled well with having two security um people on staff. So, you'll So, is that security team at your other location going to be the security team here? Uh,
there's one person that runs it and he sends people out. So, at my other my other location at Cambria Hotel, we've had security there and they've been great. Okay. Just want you to think through as the manager of record responsibility
should an incident occur that requires um police presence. Um at other locations, I'm not saying Cambria Hotel, but other locations in the city, we've seen some confusion between managers of the licensed premise and hotel security as to who is responsible for cooperating
with police. So that you should have a good understanding of that as a manager of record. Your staff should have a good understanding of that and the hotel should have a good understanding of how they work with you and your security team. Okay. Do you have any recommendations as how you want that handled?
I think I mean it's up to you as manager of record, but I would have a very well thoughtout security and operations plan. I know your concept isn't to be a nightclub. Um, but with the outdoor seating there and alcohol and a hotel and just your location in general, you should really think that through. Again,
I can't impress upon enough to people to applicants how important it is to the board for to cooperate with the police. And sometimes it's confusion if you have your own staff, then you have a private security team, and then the hotel has a team and you're within the hotel about
who's responsible for what. So, that should be something you put some thought into. I would, if it was me, I'd put it down on paper. I would I would train your staff about it and I would talk to the hotel as well. We'll do. Yep. Thank you for that. Um, Commissioner Karin, Commissioner Sax, do you have any questions?
Um, I'd just like to second all of your concerns. Uh, Madam Chair, and add on another piece of experience that we've had, and I don't know if you have it, but in these outdoor spaces, especially along the the harbor there, you you you might see people trying to leave your,
you know, designated premises with alcoholic beverages. That's a big issue. Can be in the summer. So, think through that as well. Right. Thank you. That's helpful. Appreciate it. I'm on it. Uh, nothing to add. Thanks. Thank you. Are there any individuals who
would like to testify on this matter beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter? Good morning, Madam Chair, members of the board. Um I know I believe this is in um councelor Kleta's district, but councelor Flynn would like
to go in support of this um proposal at this time. Thank you. Thank you, Laura. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on this matter? The board will take this under advisement as well. Thank you very much. You calling item number four, Harvard
Convenience, Inc. doing business as Harvard Convenience located at 157 Brighton Avenue in Alustin, holder of a retail package store, wines and mall beverages license as petitioned to transfer the license from the above to Patel Harvard, Inc. doing business as Harvard convenience at the same
location. Tushar Kanu by Patel manager 2 a.m. closing hour. Alcohol sales ceasing at 11 p.m. And secondly, the African has petitioned to pledge the license and inventory to Rockland Trust Company. Attorney Jackson Christian. Attorney Christian. Good morning everyone. My name is Jackson Christian. I'm the attorney here
for the applicant, Patel Harvard, Inc. Tar Patel is also here. He is the owner of the applicant. Um he's also the president and the proposed manager of record. So, Tujar, he formed Patel Harvard, Inc. to purchase all the assets, including the beer and wine license from Harvard Convenience, Inc.,
which is doing uh business as Harvard Convenience at 157 Brighton Avenue in Austin. So, it's going to be the same name, same floor plan, same concept and everything. It's just going to be new management and new ownership. So, there's no connection between the new management uh and the previous management or ownership there. Um, so
Tushar is going to be manager of record. He's tip certified and he has experience like working as a clerk at other locations that have beer and wine licenses and they never had any violations anywhere where he's worked before when he was working there. Um he's also a US citizen. The other thing is Rockland Trust as you mentioned is
going to be providing financing for this. So they're looking for a pledge of the inventory and the license. And then the other thing I wanted to mention is that we did go through the community process for this application. So we had an abutters meeting with the office of neighborhood services and uh no one really showed up to speak at that. there was somebody but their camera wasn't on
and they never spoke. And then we also did the um all six civic association hearing and they they were supportive of our application after we went through that. So there's just three things we're asking for. The first is the approval of the transfer of the license. The second is approval of Tushar as the manager of record and the third is the approval of
the pledge of the inventory and the license to Rockland. So if you guys have any questions, uh Tushar and I are both happy to answer. Um thank you very much. Uh, Mr. Patel, are you 100% owner of this license?
Yes, I'm 100%. Okay. And no one no one from the previous entity has any ownership interest in your business or in the alcohol license? No. that can you like you know we are not going
to close at two 2 o'clock we are going to close at 11 okay and for like you know the to make sure the ID we got ID signs over there and I'm going to continue that too okay so that's what I wanted to talk a little bit about is what you plan on doing for ID scanning
yeah we do have ID signs so like you know with that we can scan okay you'll are do you plan on scanning every ID for people that look over under a certain age. No, I have to scan everyone like you know who's below like you know 50 because I'm I'm going to be new over
there. I don't know people. I don't know them. So I got to make sure each and every time to scan their ID. Okay. And like I said to one of the previous applicants, I urge you to keep your technology updated. these things go out of date more often
than you would probably think and that is not a defense should you be founded found that you have um s you've sold alcohol to someone underage it's not enough to say I use the ID and it's scanned um it's scanned like a good ID
it's that's just a backup for you we we are going to update every time like you know there's a system ID ID science it's get connected to the internet like you know you can update every other day if you want to update it every other day or you want to do it on a week basis. So we
are going to try to set up like you know if they have something like that there is like a auto update. Okay. I'm going to ask them if they have auto update like you know every single day they can do it like that then I'll do that. Okay great. Or if they doesn't have it then
I'll I'll do it by like manually because I'm going to be there every single day. Okay. And what do you accept for a backup form of ID? Backup form of ID like you know I do I'll get the phone application. There's one
application to scan ID on the phone like you can scan the barcode and then read it. I sent one of my friends to so I'm going to get that one to for backup. Okay. Commissioner Karina, Commissioner Saxon,
do you have any questions? Um just the so the did Mr. Patel did you say you're amending the application to be 11 p.m. closing hour only? Okay. Uh well I don't think there was an amendment uh to the application because
or t are you saying that the store itself is going to close at 11 p.m.? Yeah. Okay. So do you need us to amend the application to reflect that? Yeah that's like you know we are not going to keep open till late night. Sure. If the store will indeed be
closing at 11 p.m., then if you could just resubmit the um just with to reflect the correct closing hour. Okay. Yep. Okay. And then I might have missed it, Mr. Patel. I just want to be sure. Um are you a resident of Massachusetts?
Yes. All right. I was I just want to make sure that came I think that's all I have. Thanks. I actually I don't think I understood there's a scanner that can scan backup IDs.
It's called passport passport ID. It's a So it it just scans passports. No, it can scan ID. Oh, okay. Just regular like there's a barcode. It will scan the barcode behind the license.
Got it. All right. Thank you. Any further questions from the board before we move to public testimony? Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter? Beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Yes, madam chair, members of the board. Connor Newman with the mayor's office of
neighborhood services. At this time, the mayor's office deferred to the judgement of this board. Some background information, the community process on conducted a full community process after there were some issues uh at this establishment with the prior ownership group. Uh, no butters meeting was held. It was very lightly attended and no
concerns were raised in that meeting. The applicant was then directed to meet with the Alson Civic Association which they did. Uh, ACA was supportive of this proposal with the proviso that the new ownership not be related uh to the previous owners. Uh, with that we'll defer to the board. Thank you.
Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on this matter? Seeing none, the board will take this under advisement as well. Thank you. Thank you. Calling item number five, Water Dragon LLC. Doing business as Blue Dragon
located at 324A Street. Holder of a common victual or 7-day all alcoholic beverages license has petitioned to transfer the license and the location from the above to Maple and Ash Boston LLC. Doing business as Maple and Ash located at 131 Seapport Boulevard. Premise consists of in one room on
ground floor with lobby for main entrance. One large room on second floor with dining room, kitchen, storage and office space, service bar and wine room, additional room and rear with additional dining and bar. Reception area and restrooms 11,237 ft. Annual outdoor terrace on
private property on the second floor, 1100 ft with approximately 56 seats and an 11 p.m. patio closing hour. Altogether comprised of approximately 12,337 square feet with three exits and one entrance and a 2 am interior closing hour. Shauna Gilda, manager, Dennis
Quilty. Attorney attorney Quilty. Good morning, Attorney Green, Madam Chair, members of the board. Dennis Quilty, attorney representing the applicant uh for this transfer. With me this morning is Jim Laskkey, who is the owner and founder of the Maple and Ash restaurant
operations. Additionally with us, Sean Gild Day, the proposed manager of record. Uh, as indicated in Mr. Attorney Green's comments, we're seeking approval of a transfer uh from not too far away in the Four Point neighborhood. The former Blue Dragon uh restaurant uh is
is the license in question. Uh Maple and Ash is a fullervice fine dining American steakhouse originated in Chicago by Mr. Laskkey. has presently um other locations in Scottsdale, Arizona, Miami, Florida, and others in the planning
stage. Mr. Laskkey and his team are very excited to be uh in the Boston restaurant scene. Um the uh the uh restaurant will be, as I suggested, an American steakhouse uh very well uh
thought of and considered around the country where they exist. This we hope will be an addition to the dining uh scene in the seapport and uh will will not be uh a situation where there'll be uh concerns raised by this. We find it
will be uh akin to the many other fine dining establishments in the immediate area. uh for example, Saver, um Ocean Prime, uh Morton's, um all of the various high-end restaurants in the in
the Seapport. Uh we had a an ONS a Butters meeting on May 5th. Uh we had conversations with the Seapport Neighbor Association uh to determine whether they wanted to meet in addition to our meeting with ONS. uh they uh suggested that they did
not need a further meeting did ask us to confirm planning operating hours which we did uh in a recent series of phone calls between myself and Mr. Lind of the Seapport Neighborhood Association. Um
this uh this lency is comprised of um it is quite small actually for the for the location. Uh 140 seats indoor, 56 outdoor. The 56 outdoor seats have an 11 p.m. closing hour. They are also
interestingly that outdoor area will be enclosed in glass uh so as to allow for viewing of the of the harbor and surroundings but will hopefully keep down any excess noise that might otherwise emanate from that area. So we
we we think we have a positive uh influence to bring to the neighborhood and we look forward to um answering any questions the board may have this morning. Thank you. Uh, thank you. I may have missed it, but is Mr. Gild Day an approved manager?
I I don't He was He's actually a part owner of the of the former Blue Dragon. I do not know as we sit here that he was a manager of record. Sean, are you You know, I I should know that. I I don't I might might have been Ming. I think it was probably Ming. Okay. I think it was
Ming. Yeah. For the record, just going to ask the manager record questions of Mr. Gilad. Yes, ma'am. Sure. Are you a citizen? Yes, I am. Are you a resident of Massachusetts? Yes, I am. And um we know your experience in the
food and beverage industry. Is there anything else you'd like to add about your experience? Uh, well, I actually have known Dennis Quilty for 50 years and spent many, many years in the restaurant business and have got to know the people from Maple and Ash very well over the last five
years and have a lot of respect for what they do. The people who own it, who run it. It's a first class operation and I think they're going to be a great addition to the neighborhood. Okay. Um, and are you familiar with the rules
and regulations of our board, the ABCC, and the laws of the Commonwealth as they pertain to the sale and service of alcohol? I am. Great. Thanks. Um, I have no questions. Commissioner Caron, Commissioner Saxon, do you? I do not. Thank you. None from me. Thank you.
Thank you. Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter, beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Yes, Madame Chair, members of the board. Connor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood services. This time, the mayor's office deferred to the judge of this board. Some background information
the community process. Uh ONS had run in a butters meeting on May 5th. Uh there were a number of residents on who expressed concerns with the 2 a.m. closing time as well as expressing concerns regarding potential for noise spilling out into the courtyard and impacting residents who live above. uh
they were connected with the Seapport Neighborhood Association which I understand shared a lot of those concerns. I see Norm is on here so I'll let him elaborate on that. With that I'll defer to the board. Thank you. Morning madam chairs and members of the board. Please note councel would like to
go on record in opposition due to feedback for neighbors in the seport neighborhood association who is also against this proposal. Residents had highlighted concerns on noise and quality of life issues with the 2 am closing hour due to existing issues in
the neighborhood. Thank you. Thank you. I see Mr. Lynn with his hand raised. Um Mr. Lind, you may please provide your testimony. Uh thank you very much. Appreciate that. Um yes, as as was said previously, uh we did have the abutters meeting. Uh we think this is a fine business coming in. another
nice restaurant uh which will be uh welcomed for the uh amenities can provide. We were concerned about the closing hours. We the one ask we had coming out of their buters meeting was to to confirm what the actual closing hours would be. Uh attorney Kilty
referenced some of the fine dining establishments uh surrounding this this business such as Savers, Morton, Ocean Prime. Um, they all have closing hours ranging from 9:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. depending on the uh day of the week. Uh,
we hope and continue to hope that uh the business will uh be in agreement with those types of hours in line with those kind of hours. Uh, this is in a residential complex. It's uh main entrance is in a courtyard uh the the
the three buildings surround with hundreds of residential units uh surrounding it. Uh reasonable closing hour is very important. Uh noise concerns are important. Uh we appreciate a lot of what they've done, including closing the uh second floor uh uh
outdoor seating area, which is great. Uh but we truly ask them to commit to what their closing hours will be, and we ask that they be in line with the other businesses so that we can avoid any uh future issues. We also ask that going forward they work with us and with the
uh and with the buildings on the exact plan for the u woodfired drill uh how they will event how that will be released. You know there have been problems with some uh similar type of setups in the neighborhood. Uh those have been resolved and we would like them to work with us to make sure that
that doesn't cause any kind of disturbance as well. Thank you very much. Thank you for your testimony. I see a hand raise from Frank. Um, Frank, I'm going to ask you on mute if you could please identify yourself and the board and you'll have up to two minutes to provide your testimony. Uh, yes. Thank you very much. My name is Frank
Licolo. I am a resident of the 133 Seapport uh location. Uh, and I am also the vice president of uh this 133 Seapport uh homeowners association. Uh, I I have to echo many of uh Mr. Lynn's
concerns. uh but must it's it's very important that I that I represent the entire community uh within the Echelon complex um made up of two residential condominium associations as as well as
uh multiple uh other um enterprises. uh the the 133 for the board's uh edification the uh the licensing board's edification the 133 uh complex itself is uh is comprised of 255 family units and
the 135 homeowners association which we work very closely with uh is comprised of 192 units total. So the total uh residential units uh family units uh is 447. Uh the Maple and Ash will be
located within the 133 building complex. And uh while we welcome them, uh we do have several concerns that I don't believe have been addressed adequately. Uh the first uh is some assurance. And I know that Norm has mentioned that
there's been a sort of a soft agreement on the hours. Uh but I'd like to have a firm understanding uh of the closing hours uh for uh that particular restaurant. Uh I know they mentioned that the terrace uh will be open until
11 p.m. But it needs to be understood that this terrace overlooks uh the courtyard uh and is surrounded by those 447 units. Uh so uh that is of concern. I have not received any uh uh any uh
indication of what they're going to be doing in order to close that terrorist. I' I've been told that they will be enclosing it, but I don't know how they will be doing that. And I'm also under the impression that as a uh as a member
of um the primary board that has to oversee the entire echelon complex uh that that enclosure would have to be approved by the primary board and I have not heard anything uh to that effect uh officially. Uh so that is an open
question as well. uh the concern about people coming and going. Uh as mentioned, the only entrance into the facility will be through this courtyard. Uh and so people that will be entering the restaurant will have to be coming either from B Street uh Seapport
Boulevard or uh Pier 4 Boulevard. Uh we have concerns about the parking uh the uh the blockage of the uh garage entrances uh and we have not received adequate answers as to how they're going to be handling those those issues.
Security is another factor uh that as I mentioned again it is a very very relatively small and closed courtyard. Uh people coming and going within that courtyard in the middle of the night is of concern to us. Uh so what will they
be doing? uh in the way of security to make sure that people are moving in and out uh with no issue uh and also raising the issue of venting uh in terms of uh uh the um the odors uh that would be emanating from the restaurant. Sir, you
are over your two minutes if there are final points you you would like to I'll wrap up by saying that we we'd love to work with these folks uh but we really do need closure as to uh uh how they will go about answering our concerns. Thank you for that. And also additional
comments can be sent uh in writing to licensing board at boston.gov. I see another hand raised from a Carl Fischer. Uh Mr. Fischer, you will also have two minutes to provide your testimony. Thank you. Um I also a res uh here. Um
and from me being in my individual capacity as a resident, I represent uh the one uh resident uh as vice president. Um, this is the first I'm hearing of of the intent to
enclose glass enclosure. Um, I'll Frank said that the the condo uh documents, you know, the proposal there um restrict it, you know, terrorists uh absent primary approval. So um the
suggestion to keep this open uh until 11:00 um given a the you know enclosure of that space is um there's going to be outside approval required for that. Uh we need to see plans and so forth before we ever
uh authorize such a thing. Um, separately from that from uh there there's you know decibel requirements uh that govern the use of the uh of the courtyard and and patio spaces adjacent
to it. um that I think are 75 dB from um 900 p.m. uh sorry uh 65 decel max from 9:00 p.m. to 11 p.m. Um which I'm not sure that you know using that patio
after 9:00 p.m. would be permissible. Um where it would not be anticipated that uh they could keep that under 65. Um, other than that, I think the same the same considerations everyone else has is we've have we have a an existing
establishment um which we've had difficulties with uh you know uh having patrons leave uh and noisily at the end of the night um without some understanding of the hours um and the
you know the maintenance of uh of of suggesting that they want to keep this as a as a 2 am issuance without committing to an 11 p.m. closure is problematic. Mr. Fischer, you're over your two minutes as well. If there's a final point you'd like to make.
Thank you. Are there any other individuals would like to testify on this matter? Mr. Green, can we respond? Uh, yes, you may. Um I just just wanted to make sure the board uh knows that we uh attended our butters meeting with all
you know great hopes to be cooperative. We continue to be in that mode. Uh I have known Mr. Lynn for many years uh have discussed many many things with him over over that time have always been cooperative. We will continue to do so.
An example, the uh the enclosure of the patio was done with an eye towards reducing noise, not adding to any problems. We hope that that will be uh what what occurs and we will certainly follow any regulations with regard to the building ownership in that context.
So, we're happy to hear that that has to be approved by uh the condominium association. Uh I do want the board and I'm sure you're aware of this. Uh the all of these buildings were built with the intention of retail and restaurant uses on the same levels that we're
seeking to occupy today. Uh it's unfortunate that these folks have had issues with another lency in the area. I'm quite familiar with that as I represent them as well. uh this the the the two operations are as dissimilar as
two operations could be. We're talking here about a steakhouse. We're talking here about a place where business people are going to have meetings where where uh folks are going to go to dinner etc. This is like uh Aan Lou, Capitol Grill,
Morton's Savers, Ocean Prime. These are restaurants. They are not clubs. They're not music venues. They're just totally totally different. Many, if not all of the licences, which were referenced here this morning, have 2 a.m. closing hours
on their licenses, but they close earlier. We get it. We were asked to provide uh closing operations for Mr. Lind. We told them the last seating would be 10:30. Uh it's it's it's it's a restaurant.
We're not going to have people hanging around coming and going, screaming and yelling and shouting. It's people going out for a nice meal to have dinner. Uh there is a value to these closing hours. The board is well aware of that. I know the people we've met with are very well
aware of that. They understand that these places uh have the 2:00 licenses and really do not utilize them all the time. But in the event that it's required for an event or a party or a wedding or a function, they like to have that uh that that freedom, if you will.
These are restaurant operators, not nightclub operators. They have every intention of cooperating with the residents, uh with the Seapport Neighborhood Association, with Councelor Flynn's office, etc. Um they will learn
the uh operating style in Boston as we go forward. uh and and I know they will be cooperative and will be good neighbors. Uh you know they are I I think the unfortunate situation involving the other lency which this application
followed led to a lot of issues that really uh I I think are unfounded uh given the style of this operation. But uh again, we ask for an opportunity to get open, operate, be a good neighbor,
and uh we will cooperate with the board, the BPD, Council Flint, and the neighbor association. And we thank you very much for your time this morning. Thank you. Um another individual's ha has raised her hand to provide testimony as well, Sun Albach. You will also have
two minutes to provide your testimony to the board. Hi, thank you so much. My name is son Alfak, also a resident and a board member of 133 uh Seo Boulevard along with my colleagues Carl and um and Frank. Um thank you for the opportunity
to speak. So there are two things that I wanted to bring. The first is that the Sunday closure of the courtyard is actually 10 p.m. per our condo documents such that 11 p.m. actually the proposed 11 p.m. closure of the patio closure is already in violation. Um, so that's one
thing. The second item is I believe the um I believe the the comment around the closing time is referencing the last reservation is at 10:30. Is that correct? And if so, then
that um would likely extend the actual closing of the business closer to 12. If you look at surrounding businesses, all of those surrounding business, high-end businesses that were referenced actually say they are closed at 11 o'clock. So,
they're not taking patrons at 10:30 because no one's going to finishing be finishing at high-end meal in 30 minutes. So, I just also wanted to point that out and it would be great to work as a community to address these uh questions um before the establishment um
comes in. Thank you. Mr. V, I just want to make sure the board knows this patio is not in the courtyard. It's on the second level. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. In the courtyard. Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to provide
testimony on this matter? Yes. Is it possible to speak? Yes, if you could please identify yourself. Uh, yes. My name is Moren. I'm a resident at 135 Seapport. Um, I am opposed to this 2 am close. I understand
uh Mr. Quilty saying that this is a fine dining restaurant but again as others have mentioned Savers Morton all those other place are fine dining and they close at 11 and then he kind of contradicted himself by saying that mostly it would be closed at 11 until there's parties so parties is not fine
dining parties is people coming out to drink we already have an issue with Borito and Mr. Quilty at that time was again saying the statement of being a good neighbor but then once the problem arose he started to deflect by saying
the noise from Borito was actually residents at Seapport or saying it was delivery people. So I really don't trust uh what he has to propose as far as this business because I think he gets what he wants and then when it's a problem he's he's not willing to be a good neighbor
anymore. So, I think residents should be very concerned about this. Thank you. I want to make it very clear. I did not suggest they will close at 11 o'clock. I never said that. Thank you. Following all the testimony,
are there any questions from the board? No questions. Thank you. Uh if there's no further testimony, then the board will take this under advisement as well. Thank you. Thank you. Calling item number six, Third Cliff
Bakery LLC doing business as Third Cliff Bakery located at 3531 Washington Street in Jamaica Plane has applied for a common vixular or 7-day wines and malt beverages with Laor's license to be exercised on the above. Approximately 1,418 square ft across one floor of
shared building with two public and one private entrance and exit. Two bathrooms, front service area with 25 seats, kitchen and storage area. Also to include a seasonal patio April to November on private property with 10 seats approximately 400 square feet. Patio closing hour 5 pm. Alcohol will be
stored inside cages in dry storage area and under counter fridge for service manager Margaret Crowley. Closing time 10 p.m. Who's present on behalf of the applicant. Hi. Uh my name is Margaret Crowley and I'm the owner of their cliff here to
speak on our behalf. Thank you for being with us this morning. if you could please briefly present the proposed concepts to the board. Sure thing. Um, so Cliff Bakery, we actually were before the board in April of 2020 for our patio lensure. Um, so coming back almost five
years later, uh, to talk about expanding our service. Um, we're a community coffee shop and bakery in Jamaica Plane. Um, we opened in October of 2020 and have been doing breakfast and daily service ever since. It's been great. We love our community. We've um built some
really strong relationships and we see the need for uh kind of a third space gathering space uh in our neighborhood in the afternoon and evenings. Um right now on this strip of Washington Street, uh there's only one place that serves
alcohol be the Midway Cafe, which is primarily a music venue and kind of a bar setup. Um, so we're hoping to fill the need in the community for somewhere that folks can go for a light something to eat, maybe a glass of wine or beer in the afternoon, evening. Uh, not full
dinner service, but rather extending our current uh experience uh until about 8:00 p.m. Um, we do have a seasonal patio with 10 seats, but we're actually planning to not serve alcohol on it after engaging with some of our neighbors and talking
about concerns of noise, etc. So the alcohol would only be served and consumed in the building itself and not outside. The outside patio would be reserved for people enjoying you know coffee, tea, non-alcoholic beverages and food. Um and we offer counter service
currently. We would plan to continue offering counter service um where uh we currently have a model where when somebody orders we take their name to go with their order and then when it's ready we call that person and give it directly to them. Uh we think that will translate well for safety with alcohol
where we can uh have name and ID at the register when ordering and then turn around and pair that and give that exact order to the person whose ID we've already verified. Um we're building systems around this by uh participating in a bar management boot camp um through
an organization called offsite which I know has partnered with the city in the past. um they're helping us develop protocols and um some good best practices around this in addition to doing uh tip certification training for our entire team. Um so I think that kind
of wraps up what we're doing, what we're planning to do, how we're getting there. Um the other only other element of preparation is that we haven't spoken in person about it, but y'all have probably seen some of our one-day license applications. Um, over the past year or so, we've been uh preparing for this by
doing some internal testing. We pulled a handful of one-day licenses to host different uh special events on site. We've done a wine dinner. We're about to do um a stamp carving workshop, um different ways to use our space and uh
see what folks in the neighborhood would like to see us do. Um so we can meet that need. And it's gone really well. Uh we've learned a lot. We're excited to apply that to uh permit wise if if we are issued one. I think that covers all points, but
I'm happy to answer questions. Uh thank you for that explanation. Um so you said you will not be doing full dinner service. It will just Are you going to close at any time during the day and then reopen in the evening? How is that working?
No, our plan is to go from 8 a.m. to 8:00 pm. Um, our current menu is very breakfast pastryheavy, but uh if we were to add any kind of the beer and wine to the menu, we have a plan to do like uh grab-and-go sandwiches, some snack plates. We've tested like a grab-and-go
cheese boxes, things that are a little bit more substantial so that it would be like a good safe best practice to offer food that would pair with alcohol both from a taste perspective and like a safety perspective. Okay. Um,
okay. I'm just going to go over the manager of record questions if you don't mind. Of course. Are you a citizen? Yes. Are you a resident of Massachusetts? Yes. Do you have experience in the food and beverage industry? Yes. Okay. Are you familiar with the
rules and regulations of our board, the ABCC, and the laws of the Commonwealth pertaining to the sale and service of alcohol? Yes. Okay. Thank you. I have no other questions. Commissioner Curry or Commissioner Saxon? I have no questions. Thank you. None for me. Thank you. Thank
you. Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter, beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Yes, madam chair, members of the board, Connor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood services. This time, the mayor's office deferred to the judgement of this board. Some background information, the
community process, uh, ONS had hosted a butter meeting on April 24th that was well attended. Uh there was one resident who expressed concerns regarding uh what they thought might be noise on the patio uh trash and also mentioned um rodent issues that exist uh in the community
currently. As you heard from the applicant, uh they agreed to uh not serve alcohol on the patio to to cut down on noise. Um there was another resident who had questions regarding crowd control and staffing levels, which I believe the applicant was able to answer. And then there were five other residents that were present that were
supportive of the proposal and vocalized their support uh expressing desire to have more options in the neighborhood that are walkable and and small uh and support small businesses. The applicant went on to connect with the Stony Brook Neighborhood Association which was supportive of this proposal. Then also
met with the JPNC which was supportive as well. That information will defer to the board. Thank you. Thank you. And I do see a hand raised from Michael Ricekin. Uh Mr. Can you may please provide your testimony. Uh my name is Michael Ricekin. I live 425
South Huntington Avenue in Jamaica Plane, a member of the Jamaica Plane Neighborhood Council and chair of its public service committee. Uh we had a neighborhood uh hearing on this in person on May 6th uh last month and we
urge you to um uh uh license a alcohol license for Third Cliff Bakery at this location. Uh we uh considered the hours of 8:00 am to 8:00 pm and I understand those are the hours she would like.
She's promised to serve alcohol with food only. Um and alcohol will be uh started service at 12 noon. Um no alcohol on the patio. Uh and we really feel that there is a public need for a
license premise in this location. We've lost three licenses uh recently. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on this matter? Seeing none, the board will take this under adisement as well. Thank you.
Thank you. Calling item number seven, Wash L Beverages LLC located at 1395 to 1405 Washington Street in Roxbury has applied for a common vixular 7-day all alcoholic beverages license to be exercised on the above 7393 square ft on the first floor and basement of a
mixeduse building consisting of three spaces connected by a rear area on the first floor. Space one includes 1,240 ft on the first floor, 1,476 ft in the basement for storage. Space 2 includes 1,98 ft on the first floor and 1,268 ft
in the basement for storage. And space 3 includes 1,434 ft on the first floor and 927 ft in the basement for storage. Manager Peter Jarantis. Closing time 2 a.m. Who is present on behalf of the applicant? I am attorney Mike Ross. Thank you,
Attorney Green. And good morning, Madam Chair, members of the board. Um Mike Ross from the law firm of Prince Bell here with the applicant Peter Dragontis. Uh the owner of the proposed license and the proposed manager of record. Uh as attorney Green stated, we're here before you to request a new all alcohol
beverage license pursuant to chapter 202 of the act 2024. We're seeking to bring a license to the new mixeduse development that's currently under construction at 1395-1405 Washington Street in the South End. This is a sevenstory building with
street level commercial retail space and 35 residential ownership units above. The proposed license premises would cover the entire ground floor retail space and associated basement storage below uh totaling just over 8,000 square
ft. The vision for the space is to accommodate three distinct spaces and restaurant concepts connecting through a shared rare corridor. Uh Peter intends to attract multiple operators, providing opportunities for restaurant tours and
enhancing the vibrancy of this part of the south south end. This is an opportunity to create three licenses with one. Uh Peter is a Boston-based real estate developer with extensive experience with commercial projects like this. He has successfully worked with restaurant tenants in the past and
understands the responsibilities that come with operating licensed premises. Peter's a US citizen, a resident of Massachusetts, and familiar with the rules and regulations of Boston, of the board, and the ABCC as they pertain to the sale and service of alcohol. I'll pause there and see if there are any questions. Thank you.
Uh, thank you. Um, I appreciate that and thank you, Mr. Droantis, for joining us. I like the idea of one license covering three distinct spaces, but can you let me know or can you describe for the
board what exactly you're looking for as far as attracting operators? It's really hard to conceptualize something that is seems aspirational right now. Um, so what kind of concepts are you looking to attract? Are they are they steak houses?
Are they small, you know, spots for the neighborhood gathering? Is it going to be an event space? So, what are you looking to do? So, uh we have a um uh a broker who's doing all the marketing for the property and we've numerous um uh
people uh interested in the space um all waiting to hear what happens with the hearing today. Um, and it's everything from um, you know, we've got an Israeli uh, restaurant from um, uh, Cambridge
looking to open. We have the, um, the chef uh, just put in a proposal from um, he left the uh, raffles uh, project. Uh, he was the head chef over there at La
Perona. We have um uh numerous we've uh the daughter of Hammersley's from Hammersley's Beastro back in the day who was looking at the space to do a concept there. So we've got multiple um small uh
sort of uh operators, not not a not a chain restaurant uh at all. Um if that's what you're uh asking for. Uh, so you know, similar to all the other South End establishments, the Toros, the Copas, the um, you know, Barbara Lynch's old
places, you know, they're just, uh, you know, the they're small footprints. They're, um, you know, all sorts of different little concepts to fit into the neighborhood that are missing. Um, we're not looking to do one giant operation there of uh, you know, a big
steakhouse or anything like that. Boston Chops is next door um, for that. And uh this is the former location of Gallows uh who operated a full liquor license there for 20 years um uh before they closed uh during CO.
Okay. Is it is this space built out yet? Yes, we'll uh going for final strife occupancy in August. Okay. Just get going on the operators to uh start building out the space.
And tell me about any sort of neighborhood or community process you've undertaken. We um spoke with Sarah Sharp, the South End liaison. Um and typically at this point, as you know, Madam Chair, because we
didn't have the actual operator and the concept. uh they they did the the quick outreach to the Union Park Neighborhood Association just to inform them that we're in front of you today in front of the board uh and that we would come back
um to do a more um exhaustive community process and butters meetings once we had the operators, the hours of operations and those types of concepts uh ironed out. I've been doing community meetings since the late 90s in the south end for all my
real estate construction projects and um lived in the south end for 20 years and uh had a former restaurant at this location with Union Park Pizza moved to Newberry Street uh during the construction year. So I'm very familiar with the process.
Okay. Um Commissioner Cara, Commissioner Saxon, do you have any questions? Uh not at this time. Thank you. Uh, I do not. Thank you. Thank you. With that, are there any individuals with us this morning who would like to testify, beginning with elected officials or their
representatives? Yes, madame chair, members of the board, Connor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood services. At this time, the mayor's office could defer to the judgment of this board. some background information community process. Uh we're seeing more and more applications like this uh for
requests for liquor licenses where the concept are it's difficult for our office to conduct in a butters meeting. In these circumstance in these circumstances we direct the applicant to connect with the civic association and inform them um and understand if the civic one was to uh have the applicant
present to the neighborhood association. uh information was shared with the Union Park Neighborhood Association in early uh May, I believe May 13th. That information will defer to the board. Thank Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to testify on
this matter? Board will take this matter under adisement. Thank you. Thank you very much. Sorry, I have a I have a um comment. Yeah, I have a comment as well. Um, I am uh an director of butter with the
Arlington Court Condominium Association. I also serve on um the board of the condo association and I'm a member of I'm a board of director on the Union Park Neighborhood Association. Um at a
high level, our biggest concern is that there has been no community process. Um butters, particularly the ones in our building, only learned of this hearing. Uh over the weekend, someone left a
notice in an envelope registered letter on our door. Um and we we we I request that we defer further discussion until uh community uh meetings can be um scheduled with either
through the uh office of the neighborhood services and or the union park neighborhood association because a butters are just learning about this. I there are various concerns but w without
I can't get into the details of them of that because we haven't had any discussions. Um the other thing that the other concern is that and I think Kathleen may have alluded to this is that there's no concept or operator
associated with this application. I didn't know I'm not I don't know if that's typical but it seems quite unusual. So, it's it's very difficult to discuss and respond. We have a proposed
clo uh closing hour of 2 a.m. I know there are concerns with that, but that aside, we just don't know any operational details um to respond to. So for that reason, I I will speak on behalf I think Andrew's
here on behalf of UPNA, but I will on behalf of the Arlington Courtinium Association. We cannot support the application at this time given those concerns. Thank you. Thank you. Um Mr. Cone, I believe you also spoke up that you wanted to provide your testimony. Um
if so, please identify yourself. You'll have two minutes to provide your testimony. Thank you. Um I I'm I'm not sure that uh Mr. Garantis actually answered the question which was from my understanding was what concepts do you want to have in this space. He told us
about the people um the potential people um and that was you know helpful but it doesn't really tell us exactly what you know closing times and all of that. Apparently there's a 2 a.m. request. This is this entire block including that
building is residential. Um and it's very tight. It's very packed in. It's not like there's plenty of space. So, um, and frankly, as a resident of this building, I was, uh, semi involved in the, uh, hearings that we that they had
for the permitting process for the building itself. And we had a very hard time getting the developer to respond to us. It was a year of of nothing basically. So, I I I really agree with
Jeff that we need uh a real community process and not a registered letter, you know, a couple of days before. Thank you. Thank you. U Yep. Hang on a moment. Attorney Ross miss, if there are any other individuals, we'll give you a chance to respond afterwards. There's other there's anybody else with us this
morning who would like to uh provide testimony on this item. Stephanie Ragland, I do see your hand is raised. Uh you could please unmute yourself. You have up to two minutes to provide your testimony. Yeah. Thank you so much to the board for taking the time for this. Um, I also live in the building uh next
door and have, you know, been supportive of the building going up and the new development in the town, but I do agree that there needs to be some more information about the kind of restaurants and operators that are going to go in. Um, I've been listening to the people before and the level of detail
provided is much greater and more in depth than what's been provided here. So, it'd be helpful to understand that, particularly in light of a 2 a.m. closing. There's also a high school and a church across the street. So, it'd be helpful to understand how they're thinking about those neighbors and the
cleanliness because we have had major trash issues um and just keeping the area clean. So, I think all those things need to be decided before we can feel comfortable. Thank you. Are there any other individuals who would like to provide testimony on this item?
following testimony. Attorney Ross, would you like to respond? Sure. Um, I mean, I can completely understand the comments. This is precisely why um, uh, kind of what Connor said is that there there isn't enough to provide through a full community process when you don't
have the actual operators who are going to put their concepts forward. And that's why we will be going back to the community. We will be doing a full of butters meeting once we uh nail that down because we will have to make changes to the license to accommodate to accommodate those um those new applicants. When the building was being
permitted and I didn't handle the permitting as uh as the real estate attorney for the project, but I did look at the file when the building was being permitted. It was being permitted with these groundf flooror retail uh uh units in mind. Uh and it was uh it was
specifically known and approved at the time that these ground flooror retail units could and in fact very likely might be restaurants. Uh the only way to do this is to be able to identify a license and then make that license
available. Uh and it's it's almost a two-step process. I mean I'm saying this to the board. I'm not really saying to this board. The board knows this. I'm just trying to explain and answer the comments that were made by the public is that it's almost like a two-step process. You see this often in larger buildings where where the building is
being built, especially on new construction, you know, going forward after 10 years from now after this building, you know, the transfer of licenses, it would be much different. The reason why it's appearing in this manner is because this is groundup construction. They need to get a license
into the building and then they need to get the operators that they would that they would rent or purchase the condo units to then open the the uh the property. It only happens in this type of circumstances where you have new construction. And that's why we're in this two-step process. I guess what I'm
saying is that we will be back in front of this community to discuss things like trash hours and operations concepts once we have uh a tenant andor a purchaser of the individual um bays that would do this. I hope that answers the question.
Are there any following all that testimony? Are there any further questions from the board at this time? Okay. And just finally to check are there any other individuals who would like to testify in this matter who have not yet done so? Right. Seeing none on the board, we'll take this under adisement as well. Thank
you all. Thank you. Calling item number eight, Mr. Drinkie LLC doing business as Mr. drinky located at 606 Center Street in Jamaica Plane has applied 4A common victory or 7-day alcoholic beverages license to be exercised on the above 500 square ft on
one floor with one entrance two exits included includes a bar that covers length in the space with seating for approximately 8 to 10 and additional booth seating along the wall in front of space with restroom in the rear. Also includes 400t basement for prep space, storage, and office space. Manager Alan
Wong, closing time 1:00 a.m. Who's present on behalf of the applicant? Yes. Hello. All right. Uh, hi. Um, thanks for having me. Um, my name is Alan Wong. Uh, I'm the LLC manager of Mr. Drinky LLC. I'm opening I'm looking to open a small
craft cocktail bar on 606 Center Street in JP called Mr. Drinky. Currently, uh, my family's been at uh, 6106 uh, 60610 Center Street for about 70 years. And this is a business I've wanted to pursue for quite some time.
Over the last decade, I've done several pop-ups around Dorchester, JP, and Boston. And uh these neighborhood licenses represent an opportunity to do a small brick and mortar of my own um on center streets. Um as mentioned, the
space is 500ish square ft. The experience is meant to be small and intimate, quiet, and civil as possible. Capacity would be 24 to 32 or so. Um, as mentioned, there will be about eight to 10 bar seats with the remaining seats,
all seats, no standing, excuse me, uh, being booth or bench seating lying the opposite uh, sides of the bar. I'm proposing operating hours of 5 to 11:00 p.m., although I am asking for a 1:00 a.m. license. Um, this cocktail bar will
place an emphasis on craft and execution at a high level. I'd like to have a serious ice program with ice that's made for specific applications in cocktails. And there will be food as well in the form of small plates. Uh the bar is
meant to be small, quiet, and somewhere for people in the neighborhood to have that third place between work and home uh to enjoy a drink or two and a snack or two and carry on with their evening. Uh, so while there are other restaurants in, excuse me, in the surrounding area,
there aren't any concepts like this one solely focused on cocktails. Um, sorry, I'm tripping up here. Um, I've gone through the community process for meetings um, with various groups and, uh, I think that's what I have to say right now. So, I appreciate your
consideration. Sorry for tripping up. Thank you. Um, so your family has owned the building for 70 years. Um, I don't know when they took over, but they've been there since the 40s. Yeah. Old laundry business. There's still a laundry there to this day. Okay. Um,
thank you. I actually don't have any questions. Um, that was a good description of what you hope to do there. And you said you've done pop-ups in Boston. In what neighborhoods? Uh JP, Dorchester, and then um downtown Boston.
Okay. All right. Thank you. Uh Commissioner Coin or Commissioner Saxon, do you have any questions? Not at this time. Thank you. None for me. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any individuals who would like to testify on this matter, beginning with elected officials or
their representatives? Yes, madam chair, members of the board. Connor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood services. This time the mayor's office was deferred to the judge from this board. Some background information the community process um and a butters meeting was held on March 26th was likely attended. Uh there was one
resident who vocalized their support with the proposal uh citing uh that they'd like to see more options uh for for restaurants and bars in this area. Uh we did receive two letters in opposition both expressing concerns regarding um parking impacts on parking
as well as noise from patrons uh clearing out and then also one letter in support as well uh expressing similar sentiments to those in the abuters meeting. Uh they went on to meet with the JPNC which was supportive of this proposal. With that deferred to the board thank you.
Thank you. I do see uh Mr. Rkin with his hand raised once again. Uh you may please provide your testimony. My name is uh Michael Ricekin. I live at 425 South Huntington Avenue, member of the Jamaica Plane Neighborhood Council and chair of its public service committee. We had a neighborhood hearing in person
on this issue on May 6th, and we urge you to pass this application with the 5:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. uh hours. Uh this will be a small intimate uh craft cocktail lounge uh very different from anything else on Center Street. So, we
feel there's a public need for this. Mr. Wong has uh long experience with popups um since uh 2010 and um we think this will be a good fit in the neighborhood.
Um he does plan to usually close at 11 p.m. and uh just needs the 1:00 a.m. for special occasions and uh New Year's Eve. Um, so we think this is typical and we this is very um appropriate for the
neighborhood and urge you to um pass this request. Thank you for your testimony. Uh Meg Crowley, I see your hand raised. Um if you'll have up to two minutes as well. Thank you. Um I'm now as Meg Crowley, a
resident of 14 Beethoven Street in uh Roxbury in the Eglesson Square area. Um, I'd like to speak in favor of this application. Um, as somebody who lives in the community as well, I think that Allen's concept is really exciting. I had an opportunity to talk to him a
little bit about it and I think he's um being very thoughtful about the operations and uh taking into consideration feedback uh while being uh holding himself to a very high standard of operation and quality. So, I admire that in a fellow business owner. And
then also, I just can't wait as a resident to see something like this on that particular strip. I think it will activate it in a new way and support the other food businesses there because it really does go in tandem with the existing restaurant concepts in that part of Center Street. I think it will
kind of fill out the offerings of the neighborhood in a nice way. Thank you very much for your testimony. Are there any other individuals uh with us this morning who would like to testify on this matter? The board will take this under advisement as well. Finally, calling item number nine,
O'Brien and Armstrong, Inc. doing business as the green tea coffee shop located at 873 South Street in Roslandale has applied for a common Mitcheller 7-day all alcoholic beverages license to be exercised on the above. 970 ft business on the ground floor with one entrance and two exits. Includes
counterstyle seating for approximately 17, 60t kitchen area and ADA compliant bathroom. also to include a 970 foot basement used for storage, refrigeration, baking, and kitchen prep. Manager, Braden Armstrong. Closing time, 10 pm. Mr. President on behalf of the
applicant. Yes. Hi. Uh, good morning board. Thanks for having me here. I appreciate it. Um, it's good to be here. Um, so I am uh pursuing a all alcohols license for my coffee shop in Rosendale. We are a small coffee shop, small residential coffee
shop. Um, an open air concept. We serve uh breakfast, lunch, smoothies, ice cream, uh and a lot of baked goods. Um I I am seeking this license because I've got a vision of being able to offer draft beers, um craft beers and wine and
some mixed beverages um to folks in the afternoon. We're we're located near uh Fallenfield, pretty big park. And on the weekends, uh we've got a lot of foot traffic. A lot of people come by with their kids, they get ice cream, um they get smoothies, and I want to be able to
offer uh these people a place where they can sit in a quiet atmosphere and have a a craft beer. Um I currently have three uh draft lines right now, which I use for iced coffees and teas, and I'm looking to rotate those over to beers so I can offer adults uh a quiet atmosphere
to just have a couple beers and enjoy their afternoon. I have uh no intention of turning this into a fullscale bar. Um I'm not going to have any TVs, no live music. It's going to maintain the quiet uh coffee
shop atmosphere which it already has. Soft coffee house music. And I really just want to give people a place to be able to sit, conversate, and enjoy the enjoy the uh afternoon. Um, I am pursuing a full alcohol license because I do have visions in the wintertime of
and even in the summer of offering hot totties, Irish coffees, um, and doing board game nights, uh, for the surrounding community, uh, you know, adult board game nights, you know, Jenga tournaments and scotch tastings and, uh, you know, uh, certain things like that.
That's kind of the idea, the concept, but I really just want to be able to uh offer uh the local residents a place to have rotating craft beers and just enjoy a quiet atmosphere. Um that's kind of that's kind of the vision. Are there any
questions for me? I'd love to hear. Uh thank you, Mr. Armstrong. [Music] Um I don't have it right in front of me because I'm taking notes, but do you have seats seating right now? I do inside seating. Yeah, there's 17 at the Well, I've got small counter seating and then there's uh tables and seating for
about uh 17 uh people in there. So, it's a smaller smaller location. Okay. Okay. I'm just going to do the uh quickly do the manager record questions before we get into questions about your proposal. Um are you a citizen? I am.
Are you a resident of Massachusetts? Yes. Do you have experience in the food and beverage industry? I do. Prior to owning a coffee shop, I uh bartended and managed a bar previously known as Flan O'Brien's in Mission Hill for 10 years. Okay. Um are you familiar with the rules
and regulations of this board, the ABCC, and the laws of the Commonwealth pertaining to the sale and service of alcohol? Yes, I am. Okay, great. Um I think you said you're going to be open right now. You're open for breakfast and lunch and you'd like to
stay open till 8:00. Is that right? Uh well, so currently I am open at 6 a.m. Um and we close at 6 PM. Although during the summer time I usually open to 8:00 PM for ice cream and smoothies and uh get the uh you know the evening crowd for that. But I am looking to stay open
till excuse me 10 p.m. with the uh with the beer license. Um I really want to embrace the neighborhood. I I don't want to I'm not looking to do anything late night. Um and so yeah, I'm looking to extend to 10 p.m. with the sale of alcohol. Okay.
Um I think it's a like you said, there's not a lot in this particular um area of the neighborhood for a resident to go and sit down and um enjoy something like this. So um I don't have any questions for you at
this time. I'm glad you've been able to put it sounds like you put a lot of thought and preparation into what you'd like to do should you be granted a license and I appreciate that. Um Commissioner Carina and Commissioner Saxon, do you have any questions? Not at this time. Thank you. None for me. Thank you. Thank you. With that, are
there any individuals uh who would like to testify on this matter, beginning with elected officials or their representatives? Yes, madam chair, members of the board. Conor Newman with the mayor's office of neighborhood services. At this time, the mayor's office like to defer to the judgment of this board. Some background information, the community process. ONS had hosted a
butters meeting on April 29th was attended by a handful of residents. Uh, one resident expressed opposition expressing concerns on the potential impact in parking. Uh, mentions uh, worries of her driveway being blocked in, the bus lane being blocked, etc. Uh, another resident has expressed some
concerns regarding uh, closing hours. Um, the remaining residents that were on the call were supportive of the proposal. Um, mentioned that they like the concept with one resident expressing that they felt fine uh, with the uh, proposed um, hours of operation. Uh the
applicant went on to meet with uh Lana uh which ultimately did not take a stance. That's the active civic for that area. With that information, we'll defer to the board. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other individuals with us this morning who would like to testify on this matter?
Yes. Hello. Good morning. Uh Tyler Hensler, uh resident of Roslandale. Um I just want to go on record in support. Uh there's nothing like this around the area. it would be a welcome addition to the neighborhood. Uh it's already a stop
on my and my fiance's uh walks um and it would be even more so uh now. So just going on record and support. Thank you Tyler. Are there any other individuals who would like to uh testify on this matter? Seeing none, the board will take
this matter under advisement as well. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh those are all the items before the board this morning. The board will convene to vote tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. Notice has been posted to the city's website. Uh the we'll adjourn this hearing. Thank you all and enjoy the rest of your
day. Thank you. Thank you.