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Part 1 (Video ID: 9UnDrFp7QsE):
- 00:00:52: Introduction and Announcements: Flag Football Team Recognition
- 00:02:11: Community Funds, Advisory Board Appointments Review Discussion
- 00:03:33: Consent Agenda: Budget Amendment, Sewer Plant Ratification
- 00:06:42: Public Safety Facility, Software Purchases, Chapel Hill Paving
- 00:08:22: Wastewater Plant Furniture, School Zone Camera Termination
- 00:09:12: Question: Separate Contracts for Cameras?
- 00:09:48: Ordinance Regarding Conduct on City Property Details
- 00:12:26: Police and Fire Chief Pension and Building Permit Rebate
- 00:14:34: Question: Rebate Communication and Contract Amendments
- 00:15:55: Commission Discussion: Fire Chief's Pension Clarification
- 00:16:28: Followup Clarification: Fire Chief Pension
- 00:18:03: Tax Reform Impact and Founding Father Statue Discussion
- 00:22:10: Discussion: Bill Language and Implications for Save Homes Act
- 00:26:31: Meeting Adjournment and Thank yous


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Hey, can you guys hear me? >> Yep, we can hear you. >> Yes. >> All right, so we'll go ahead and get started then. Um, everyone, thank you for joining. This is Andrew Mack. I'm the deputy city

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manager. Uh Dan Duggar had a conflict tonight and couldn't attend. Uh this is the agenda review for the upcoming June 2nd city commission meeting. Um we'll start with going through the announcements. Uh we're going to have

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the the girls pla pal flag football team come to be recognized by the commission. Um this was I think their second year in the league and um we had a lot of new girls this year and a lot of girls this is their first time playing flag

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football. So I'm really proud of what they accomplished this year. You had one team that won came in first place or champion and then the second team the 12U team that was runner up and then the U14 team came in third place. So really proud of the girls and what they

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accomplished this season and the coaches. Uh public audience number five we're going u community support funds. Um I believe the community support funds are for Commissioner McCrae. Um he's donating $1,000 of his support funds to

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Young Men of Distinction. Uh advisory board appointments. Do you want to open that up? Uh um Tammy so we can see that. So there are several appointments. Uh I'll go over them briefly. So you have one appointment to the building board of adjustments and

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appeals. Uh Andrew Padre. I will note that um Mr. Padre was on this board before and um actually he quit in the middle of a meeting. So I just put that out there. Um Education and Youth

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Advisory Board. U Mayor Shelton has a selection and the applicant's name is Perry Jeder. Uh nothing for historic resources preservation board library advisory board has one appointment and is Mayor Shelton's appointment. Uh Pamelina

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Baglio is the applicant. Uh nothing from recreation and parks board and senior advisory board has three appointments. Uh Vice Mayor Turkin, uh Commissioner Kelly and Mayor Shelton, uh Shelley Mc Mckver, Linda Wildman, and Max Caner are

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the three applicants. And are all of them do they meet the criteria? Are there any exceptions? >> I don't see any waiver requests here. Um Tammy, do you know if any of these are have waiver requests? >> None of these on this agenda have any waivers. The next agenda will have

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several. >> Okay. Excellent. All right. On to consent. Um we'll note here that um I had a request that came in late yesterday afternoon to be added to consent. Um we

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had uh application to submit for FDOT permit to close lanes on federal highway for the Fourth of July event. I just couldn't get it done in time. So we will uh adding that item probably tomorrow and republishing. Um it's just an application that needs to be signed by the mayor or the city manager.

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Uh going over consent item 6A. This is our midyear budget amendment. Um mostly recognizing additional revenue. Um we're increasing from 137 million to 140

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million. Uh the revenue is the ICE 287G program for about 640,000. Increased special police detail recognizing a half 500,000. uh another police services contract with the CRA of another 104 thou 103,000

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and then a P5 settlement of 1.3 million. On the expenditure side, I'll note that uh the b biggest expenditure here is just doing the budget transfer to the CIP to cover the cost of the paving for the Chapel Hill resurfacing project which is later on in this agenda. uh we

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up the increased the overtime and reimburseable wages for PD and then we also increased some of the public uh safety equipment that are being offset or purchased through these 287g funds. Uh I do have Fabio and Allen on. If you guys have any more detailed questions,

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we can go into it or I can go on to the next item. Okay, hearing none. Uh 6B is just simply our annual ratification of the sewer south uh central regional wa water wastewater treatment plant disposal

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board um budget. Um that's here we can answer questions that if you have any uh 6C um 6 C is in reference to Mangrove Park over by the St. Mark's Church. So, our second amendment was executed, but we

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didn't bring it to the commission because um we just didn't have time. So, we rat we're bring it back to ratify. Um that second amendment, that was an extension that gave us six months. Um we recently got our um permits to do the demolition of the boardwalk. So, our

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extension, that second amendment extension, which we're ratifying, actually expires June, I think 30th. And so we're now extending from June to the end of the year, December, um to allow us time to go ahead and get proposals

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and bid our bids on that demolition work and uh and and schedule that that work for to be done. Um this this is necessary because the again if we don't our lease will uh expire with the with the arch dascese

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going up Tammy a little bit 7A um we we are author or requesting to authorize a task order to CPZ architects. This is to do the design by build criteria package and do some of the upfront work on the site planning uh

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for the proposed public safety training facility. Um the um the the funding for this project is actually coming from police impact fees. So, we're excited to get this started to actually um to flush out all the the work that needs to be

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done at this location as well as um getting that project ready and rolling so that we can have the a new uh training facility for the police department. See, item 7B is a piggyback with Kerosoft. This is for various softwares

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that we purchase through they're the resellers. Um we spend uh not to exceed 600 annually on that. Uh 7 C is the um approve approve the issuance of a purchase order to Eminem asphalt DBA all county paving uh in

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amount of 631,000 plus the contingency of 63 to do a total uh not to exceed of 694 for the Chapel Hill resurfacing phase 2 project. Uh this one is also tied to that budget amendment uh moving money into the

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capital to cover the cost of this plus any unforeseen conditions that would come up. And then 7D is um our project out at the wastewater treatment plant that they're renovating the admin offices, the lab

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and everything. As a part of that, we need to purchase some um new furniture. And that's simply what this is is using this this agreement to uh with Empire office to actually purchase that the equipment for the wastewater treatment plant in the amount not to exceed

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83,000. Item 7E uh I think you guys have been briefed on these but I'll go over briefly. um 7E where we're we're going to be um directing procurement to issue a termination for the school zone camera program with uh Vieira and then

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providing an effective date. And then on later on in the agenda, we'll be um doing a piggyback agreement with Redspeed to enact for red light camera and school zone speed detection as well.

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Hey Andrew, is there is there a way to have those contracts separate, the school zone and the red red light camera, or why or do they have to be grouped together? >> Good question. I'd have to ask. >> Hi Stacy. Um, so the red light and

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school zone camera contract here is a single piggyback contract, Commissioner Turk or Vice Mayor Turkin. So, it's all in one >> for the uh red speed. >> Yes. >> It was procured together.

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>> Good to know. All right. Thank you, Stacey. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Go on down to 10 A, Tammy. So 10A I think is in reference to um basically carving out some some rules

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around city property that we own and control to make sure that you know we we're getting in a little bit of a issue with nuisance people that are coming in and causing problems within the lobby and these other areas and secure areas in the city. So, this would just be

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codifying some rules or some ordinance around that and how we can use that. Uh, Shauna is on if or Stacy if you wanted to talk about it any further or did you want to mention anything on TA? Okay.

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>> Okay. I I I'm sorry I can answer any questions or on this but um we essentially had control of Okay. So we have had a first amendment auditor who has come to the city and what has happened is

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this person has recorded city staff and posted it on YouTube by cutting up the video um which he certainly allowed to do in a public area but he's also recording conversations of people in their offices which is arguably

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protected and not telling them that he's recording them and posting it on YouTube with their contact information, which has led to some harassing phone calls and some pretty disgusting um emails and phone messages. One of the

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other issues though is when he comes to city hall, when these they're taking up staff's time. So, I know at the police department, you know, he's not just asking or making a single public records request. he's making them

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stand there for an hour and try to answer questions for him. Um, all so that he can get content for his video and it's really disrupting the um city's ability to actually do their job and conduct business. So, this is um

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intended to limit some of the disruption to city services. >> Perfect. Thank you, Shauna. All right. So 10B and 10 C are both related to the police uh the fire chief.

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Sorry, police fire chief. Um as part of state statute, the police and fire chief, I believe, have the opportunity to participate in the general employees pension fund. So that is just strictly what we're doing now. We're modifying the general employees pension ordinance and the firefighters to allow that as

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being an election by the fire chief. Okay. Um 10D. Adam, are you on? Did you want to talk about this one or? >> Sure, I could I could cover it real quick. Okay.

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>> So, uh D is what we're doing is we're establishing a temporary building permit fee rebate program uh for certain improvements for any residents uh that are for any homesteaded properties uh in the city. And we're we're going to

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retroactively backdate this to May 1st. and we're going to have the program run till September 15th. Um the reason why we're backdating it to May 1st is because we've contemplated for a couple of years um in recognition of building safety month uh having this program. So

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it's going to cover storm hardening improvements uh doors and window change outs, re- roofs, generators, uh hurricane shutters, and since it's the summertime, uh the building official had a good idea and it was mentioned by Commissioner Turkin at the last meeting.

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We're adding uh AC change outs as well. Um there's going to be no application uh required for for somebody to to get this program. We're going to run the reports on a weekly basis and send checks uh for the for the permit fees uh that we collect that are not state required. Uh

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we because we do collect state fees. Um but the the the large majority of the permit fees will be rebated back to the property owner. And the reason why we're doing a rebate program is because the uh contractors typically uh charge the homeowners for permit fees. So, we did

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not want to rebate the contractor. We wanted to make sure that the monies go back to the homeowner. >> Hey, Adam, with um with those rebate checks, can we make sure that we just put a good description when we mail those out so people don't think that

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they're getting like scammed? you know, it's not it's not often you get a rebate check from the government. So, I I don't want I I don't want people to feel appalled and, you know, just kind of trash it. >> Um >> Yeah. >> So, just if we can do our our due diligence and communication there.

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>> Yes, sir. Our plan is to accompany every check with a letter um letting them know what the program was. It was approved by the city commission and uh thank them for making the improvements uh to their to their homes. And just for some numbers, you know, last year, the same time period, uh, we did about a thousand

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of these permits. Um, so we anticipate this, uh, bringing about, you know, a couple hundred,000 potentially back to to homeowners within the city and hopefully encourage people to make some of these these improvements. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Um, one more thing that I forgot to

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mention that would that we're going to we're going to be looking to add on consent bids and purchases. Um when we approved the update to the master ILA between the city and the CRA to cover the change order for the end demo um we

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did not do the amendment to the to the contract. So we can't actually pay the vendor. So we're going to be adding that item um tomorrow as well and republishing that as well. So I just wanted to mention that to you as well so it's not a surprise.

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Okay. Other than that that's all the agenda for tonight. Is there anything that you the commission has that they wanted to bring up for us to discuss or >> Yeah, real quick. Real quick. Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Oh, thanks. So, um I was muted and I

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couldn't get there fast enough on C real quick. Um with regard to the fire chief, is that a cleanup or is that something the law recently changed or >> I believe that's a cleanup. I believe I believe it was already in statute um and it it just wasn't never codified. uh

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Shauna and I think or Stacy, one of you guys can on that. >> So, actually this is allowed by Florida state statute. Um >> and so we're just having um this match what is allowed by state law which they

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can elect either to do correct. They can elect either to do the general employees or they can elect a firefighter or excuse me or the firefighter pension. >> Okay. So, we're not anticipating there'll be any change direct as a

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result of this. We're just cleaning it up so it matches the law. >> Well, it's possible that the fire chief may participate in the general employees in light of the merger >> and that's because he didn't have that

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option when he first came on. Correct. >> That was not an option to correct. So, now that we're codifying this, he will >> he will have that option. This one time option once this is codified. Gotcha. Because the law has changed since he started is what you're saying.

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>> Yes. Um I don't know when the state law was enacted, but I know that our pension doesn't match the state law. So this is one of the reasons why we're making that amendment >> so that we're in alignment with state law. >> Okay. >> I can find out if you want.

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>> Yeah, if you could just find out that that would be great. And then I will talk to Alan. >> I can send you >> I can send you a memo tomorrow. Commissioner Kelly. >> Okay, that's fine. I'll talk to Alan. I do want to talk to Allan offline about the budget amendments, but I'll talk to him offline. We don't need to talk about

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>> awesome. Commissioner Turkey, you had something you wanted to bring up. >> Yeah, I just wanted to see if I could get consensus from my colleagues to add just two brief discussion items. Um, one one being like regarding around this tax reform. I think it kind of overlaps with

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some of the conversation that we had last last meeting. I saw the governor um proposed the bill. Like I said, it was coming um with with the safe homes legislation to go on the ballot. Um I know there's a lot of discussion and

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dialogue right now and so I just want to make sure that we're being proactive on this and we're not, you know, we're not caught like a deer in the headlights. um and and just kind of really allow staff to think creatively on on how to

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combat this uh or come up with creative dialogues or um initiatives. Um I think this is going to be a huge like funding gap for us if it does pass. If it gets on the ballot, I think it will pass. And so, you know, I think staff's done an incredible job with that forward

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thought. Um I just I just don't think that may be enough. And I think, you know, we should have this conversation sooner than later so we're prepared um you know to deliver services and you know be able to fund accordingly. The

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second thing is that we have um 250 America's 250th anniversary coming up. A lot of states around I'm sorry a lot of cities around the state are um providing statues of our founding fathers. One thing I wanted to suggest

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to my colleagues is if we could potentially join that uh movement in erecting um a statue of of our founding fathers. One I thought of was Ham Solomon, which if no one knows a Polish

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immigrant who actually helped finance George Washington's army so that they could continue in the revolution. Um he's one of those that are com, you know, completely forgotten until you do a lot of digging. Um and so I think it'd be a great opportunity

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um to recognize, you know, someone that had a huge um influence and and part of you know becoming the country we are today. I don't believe there is any uh acknowledgement or statue or honor of

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this individual um in the state of Florida. I think he may have one in Chicago or Illinois. Um but you know I think there's an opportunity there to not just um you know honor our our 250

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year anniversary but also honor you know one of our one of our you know quiet founding fathers so to speak. So, I think that'd be something cool. I think that'd be special and um you know, we have the land to do it. Um I don't

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think it'd be that cost effective. I'd be or I don't think cost prohibited. I think you know, I wouldn't mind putting some of my community support funds towards that if that's allowed. Um you know, if we have it in the budget, but I think it'd be a really cool thing for

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Buon Beach to do to honor, you know, not just our founding fathers, but also this country. When did you want those on the agenda if we get consensus? >> I I would like to have it Tuesday. I mean, you know, I don't I can give a kind of brief like I can email like a to

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everyone. Um, you know, he was again, he was a financeier. He was a Polish Jewish immigrant um that came, you know, came to America. very interesting uh history there, but you don't really learn about him in the history books. And so, you

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know, given, you know, Palm Beach County having a large Jewish population, I think this is a great opportunity, you know, to honor someone that was forgotten in the history books. >> Okay, >> Commissioner Turkin.

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>> Yes. Um, I actually just emailed the actual bill language to uh, city management today. >> I did not send that to the commission, but I will send that to the commission if you would like. >> The bill Oh, the bill for the Save Homes Act. >> Correct. Correct.

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>> Okay. So, I'll do that first thing tomorrow. >> I don't know if you want any analysis of it. >> Um, I neglected to send >> conversation. Yeah, I think we Yeah, I think we should get the email. It's a conversation we should have. Obviously, it's got to go through the Senate and

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the House and from what I'm hearing is that the Senate's good to go and maybe even the House. And so, I just and from my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, Sean, is that this goes into effect January for the next budget. I I actually did not see I know initially

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it's only up to 250,000 of a homestead exemption for the first 250,000 but it also does put some caps on businesses. Um so I will send something out first thing tomorrow >> and I will also have the date.

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>> Yeah, that's that's the important thing is the date. >> Vice Mayor Tur Vice Mayor Turken, it is January 1 of 27th. >> Okay. Yeah. So I think you know that's that's that's going to come real quickly. So we um I think we need to get ahead of this.

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>> They are also one of the things they are proposing is there will be a grant program that >> Yeah. through the state. >> Correct. Through the state. Correct. >> Yeah. >> But you know how that is. >> But okay. I will send that around to everyone tomorrow.

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again with me. I I have a risk matrix for it >> that I have some analysis too that we can talk about. >> Yeah. And I have some analysis that I neglected to send when I forwarded the email. So we'll we'll get together

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tomorrow and put something together. So maybe like we can do a brief like an a brief discussion and presentation of of the legal analysis of the matrix, you know, the the financial impact. Um I just don't want to go through budget and

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and then not think about this, you know, and we're going to get to budget quite quite soon. And so, you know, whether that's a workshop or whether that's at this next meeting, I do think we need to address this. We need to look at this holistically. and um just be prepared. I

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mean, there's an opportunity where it doesn't pass the House, doesn't even make it on the ballot or maybe it doesn't pass in November, you know, then we, you know, one less thing to worry about, but I'd rather be proactive than caught off guard. >> Where would you like to place these items on the agenda?

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>> You want them under if there's consensus from my colleagues? Um, you know, just, you know, wherever is convenient for staff. I guess the question is do you want to take public comment on the tax reform because then we could do it under the >> I think we need to take public comment

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on it. I think >> I I I think like this is an analysis but from a legal perspective obviously from an operational perspective you know I've I've been thinking all day of like maybe you know different things we can kind of try to do and maybe the conversation we

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have on Tuesday if we get consensus to do so maybe that turns into a spitball you know think take for a workshop right I don't I don't know you know I'm I'm you know I'm open to anything and everything I just I think it's our responsibility to be proactive with

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this. >> Okay. I'll uh when we republish tomorrow, I'll make sure we add those items in uh get them on the agenda. >> Okay. There's nothing else. >> I'm sorry. I didn't I I'm sorry. I I literally just got an email from the

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Florida League of Cities. Um they're doing a webinar on Monday morning at 9:00 a.m. I can forward that, too. Um because I don't know if any commissioners have any interest in participating in that. If I don't

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>> Are we going to have someone from the city on that? >> Well, yeah, somebody I mean, one of us needs to attend, but um >> Okay. I literally just got the email. >> Okay. All right. Got it. Thank you.

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>> Anything else? >> No. Thank you very much, everyone. >> All right. Thank you everybody. and uh we'll we'll see you uh tomorrow. >> Thanks. >> Sounds good. >> All right. Good night.

