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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: Y3z5RdBv3lE):
- 00:01:16: Meeting Commences: Attendance and Ethics Presentation Overview
- 00:07:10: Proclamation, Advisory Board Appointments, Consent Agenda Items
- 00:08:33: Beach Concession Stand RFP Award; Menu Balance Concerns
- 00:19:54: Vulnerability Assessments and Cybersecurity Solutions Agreement
- 00:21:34: Project Updates: Chapel Hill Drainage, Playgrounds, Roads
- 00:27:55: Ordinance Restriction Removal and Cemetery Plot Pricing Discussion
- 00:32:10: Cemetery Rules Enforcement and Compliance Discussions
- 00:36:42: Additional Agenda Items and Art Feed Policy Update


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I see uh Vice Mayor Turkens on. Is the mayor on? >> Mr. Kelly's here, too. >> Okay, I see Commissioner Kelly and uh we're waiting for Commissioner Cruz. We have like two more minutes, guys.

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Okay. We're going to go ahead and uh proceed with the uh agenda. So, we'll start with 3A. We have a presentation by the Palm Beach County Commission uh on ethics. Palm Beach County Commission on Ethics Education Communication Manager S.

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Elizabeth. Martin will give a brief overview of the independent watchdog agency and how the community can contact the staff. This is our annual um commission on ethics presentation we uh we do every year. Um I will say I'm

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looking to uh probably schedule a commission on ethics training that we have to do annually um in July. I reached out to the uh COE and they uh they gave me a date sometime in July. So, we'll we'll bring that forth unless

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the commission >> the back there's a there's some feedback. >> What's that? >> There's feedback. >> What about now? >> Yeah, it's still I can I can hear you talking about the ethics thing right now.

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>> A 30 second like lag. That's playing back. >> Hey, Commissioner. I had that problem a while ago. I had to log in and log out like three or four times. It's really bizarre and it's really confusing. >> You want me to log out?

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>> Yeah, I only had that for a second like early on before the before we started, but now it's fine for me. I'm not having an issue. But I get the frustration for sure. Oh, it's it's crazy.

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>> Yeah. >> All right. Are you guys good now? >> I'm fine. I don't think Turkens made it back in yet. >> Okay. >> I don't see him yet. Dan, are do I have um community support funds I'm going to do. Can I just send

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them to Tammy and to Andrew? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay. >> And we'll we'll uh we'll do the add-on. >> Okay. Thank you. Just waiting on uh Vice Mayor to rejoin, guys. >> Yeah, I'm back. Can you guys hear me? >> Yeah, we got you.

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>> Nice. That's better. Thanks. >> All right. So, uh, I'm looking to schedule something probably, uh, in July for our, uh, annual ethics training, and that's going to take care of any online ethics training. But if you guys want to do the online version, you can do the

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online version. Um, but it's always a little bit easier and more interactive if we schedule the actual inperson. So, and it normally takes about an hour or two and then you're good for the year. Sounds good to me.

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>> Okay. Uh 3B is a proclamation for mental health uh health awareness month. Uh we'll scroll down to uh 5A. Andrew, open up the advisory board. I want to say uh Commissioner M. McCrae has one appointment

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and that's Anthony Garafalo and that's for the art advisory board. The other one is the education and youth of board and I want to say that's commissioner uh Kelly. >> All right, you can go out Andrew. >> Tammy's running the slides then.

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>> Oh, okay. Tammy. So, we have one item on consent agenda. It's an extremely light agenda, guys. So, this is going to be the ILA for the demolition over at 670 um Oak Street.

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That's a property that uh the CRA just purchased. >> And this is going to be the demolition cost for that uh for that particular parcel. 7A consent bids. It's going to be a uh and reward request for proposal for a

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snack bar. This is going to be our concession stand out at the beach at Oceanfront Park. Um RFP was awarded to Dope Adventure Partners. They're the ones that came in and uh they did a sampling. I want to say that was in room 115. Probably about a week ago. They

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dropped off some different juices and some uh sliders and things like that. >> Quick question on this one, Dan. Um, so do we have like an idea of like what they're going to be serving >> because because I know like a lot of the

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stuff it was very good, but I just want to make sure that like they're still offering non-vegan items. >> They are. Yes. I had the same question. >> I just think it's it's important. I like other stuff was good. >> However, >> can you open up the menu?

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>> Yeah. Exhibit F. Exhibit F right there. >> Okay, I see it. There we go. >> So, I see the plant powered stuff. Where's the uh >> the F the Fred classics are nonvegan options that are available. >> Got it. Okay, >> perfect.

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>> Do they have like uh dairy ice cream there or no? Just a vegan ice cream. >> So, they do plan on getting a um an ice cream machine that was part of their um the equipment that they want to purchase.

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>> Okay. like um like soft serve assuming. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that there's options, you know, for for everyone because this is obviously like vegan heavy and you know, I I would argue that that like the

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percent of the market people that are going to be shopping here is vastly larger than people who are vegan and you know, there's some people who don't like to eat vegan. There's some people who are skeptical about how those foods are made. Um, so I just want to make sure

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there's a a healthy balance for these options. You know, from what I see here, it's just there's just one section of the menu with options and then everything else. Um, I mean, maybe I can talk to them

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offline, you know, is everything else is, you know, >> well, you guys you guys don't have to award this contract obviously. um if there's any issue vegan aspect I think it's important for the like I listen I I I met the applicants I saw like when

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they brought the food and the food was really good you know and I just think it's I think it's like I think we should the commission should have a conversation with them at least from my perspective to be like hey you know like it like can we have a balance because I

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just don't see that here >> I think what we can do is if you can go ahead and improve the contract and then we can work with them based on you know we can bring back a menu uh with, you know, based on the dialogue at the commission meeting >> or >> how long is the contract for?

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>> It's a four-year contract with one four-year renewal. >> So, so that would be my thing is I would put a contingency on that because like yeah, we can have dialogue, we approve the contract, but if they have an approved contract for four years, they're not held to any standard or accountability in order to change

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anything on the menu from what I understand. Like I I imagine they'd act in good faith, but I just want to make sure, you know, that, you know, if we're going to negotiate after a potential uh, you know, award for the contract that, you know, we're we're we're doing that

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before we have zero leverage. >> So, we can um because they're going to have at least 45 days before they actually can get up and running. So, what we can do is if you award and then we can have them bring back any changes to the to the menu for final approval.

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Yeah. for the commission. >> Yeah. >> Are they going to have vegan in their name when they're advertising this at the beach? >> It's It says vegan the menu company. >> Yes. Yes. They will um have that title

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on the facility, but we we mentioned these same concerns that you gentlemen are talking about to them. >> I don't like I don't I don't like this. I don't like the fact that we're go doing a concession stand at such a small segment of society. I think the

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advertisement and the name is I I people are going to get they're going to think >> I think it'll deter I think it might deter people. It might not I'm just I'm just thinking about like not marginalizing um like a large group of people that

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might not they might just get turned off by like oh vegan whatever. >> Yeah. I'm looking. All of this is plant-based. Everything >> except for the fresh classics. >> Maybe they can change the name to dope vegan and more >> or something that More >> or they could do a DBA and just write

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like I don't know Bon Beach concession card or something. I don't know. But I you know >> okay guy are you guys okay with pulling can we pull this item as opposed to going forward? I think what we ought to do is maybe

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pull it and have a discussion um Tuesday and then we can not approve it and then we can work with the vendor to get all the concerns you have worked out. >> Yeah, but this is this is making the vegan menu the primary menu versus I think this should be flipped on its

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head. And correct me if I'm wrong, guys, like completely. I'm just looking at from the percentage of society. I don't know if anyone on this call right now is vegan and why why we're it's almost like we're

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catering to a small segment of society versus the overall picture and then offering a smaller vegan menu. >> I'm just thinking about what it's not even it's not even just about offering. It's about what's going to be successful. >> It's an optics, >> right?

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>> Yeah. And it's an optics thing. Like it says dope vegan and people are going to go, "Oh, it's all vegan food." They're not even going to look at the menu because it's going to be like, "Oh, it's just vegan stuff." And then I I I fear that it won't be as successful as we

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expect because we're sitting here thinking, "Well, they're going to have regular menu items, too." But what's to say that they're not somebody who doesn't know? I mean, we're having this conversation and so we're a little bit more knowledgeable than the average person walking up to the concession and says, "Oh, it's a vegan

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hot dog or it's a ve I mean, because because now they have that stuff." And so then it's like, "Well, is it vegan or is it real?" Like I get like turkey and cheese. Obviously, it's turkey and cheese, but like I think there's I think like what Vice Mayor Turkin was saying,

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maybe they maybe and you know, maybe it's something that we assist with, but something to do a DDA or something just for this concession so that it's a little bit more like open-minded, I guess, as opposed to because people will just see, oh, it's

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dope vegan, it's just vegan food, and they'll move on even if it says and more. Because I thought of that, too. And I'm like, well, what's the and more? So, they have ice cream or they have, you know, they're not going to think like, oh, there's a whole other section

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of the menu that has regular all American, you know, regular food that's not vegan. So, because usually with ve's crossover, it's there's no question mark. It's vegan or it's nothing.

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>> Yeah. So, I think it just it gives people it I I fear like it will give people the impression it's just vegan and won't they won't even look at the menu to see that it's not >> justware

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>> just so you're aware they were voted the best bite at Taste So, they were wellreceived but I agree on the optics. >> Oh, yeah. I don't Yeah, I I tried it too. I agree. I think it was I think it people would be pleasantly surprised that they're eating vegan food when they

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eat it. But I think also because of they're charging for it, somebody's going to go, "Oh, I'm not going to pay $9 for something I'm not sure I like." >> They was just going to mention really quick. I I think they're extremely

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flexible to make any adjustments that we request because we sent them back to the drawing board by two times to revamp the menu and add more traditional items, if you will. So, they're open to do anything. So, all of these recommendations that you guys have, I am

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sure they would be open um to doing so, whether it's an adjustment to the name or potentially additional non-vegan items on the menu. I think they would be willing to do so because they've accommodated every single request we've done so far. >> Yeah. >> So, just wanted to put that out there as

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well. >> Thank you, Fabian. And I think we have to remember also that just because it's a vegetable doesn't mean it's vegan. So, like if it's a salad, it's a salad. It's not necessarily just there's nothing that makes it, you know.

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So, I I think that there's a lot of options on there that aren't vegan, whether that be a salad or a sandwich, you know, whatever. So, um but the So, anyway, that's my feedback.

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>> Yeah, I I agree. I think the big the big thing is the name. I I would definitely like uh like if I would have them change the name to where it's just something that wouldn't and and ultimately like this is to help them, I think. like I don't want them to feel deterred >> and um you know and a lot of people are

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asking about this right now like what's going at the beach so I want to make sure we get it right >> especially it's going to be a four-year contract um you know so I would I would I would tailor this to where maybe it's more focused on the beach or it's maybe

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very generic name you know inviting whatever the case may be and then people see the options and then >> you know then then they're asking questions right then and they're going through the menu versus just like Commissioner Kelly mentioned, just being deter deterred immediately. So, I mean, do we are they going to be at the

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meeting on Tuesday or is staff going to like kind of relay this to them or how does that work? >> I believe they will be at the meeting, >> correct? Yes, they'll be they're planning to be at the meeting there. We can we can make an adjustment if needed, but we have a presentation ready and

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they are planning on being at the meeting. >> Okay. Awesome. It'll be nice if we can get everything out on the table that that night and then they can just agree to it and then we can move on because it's going to be at least 45 days before they actually move in. We want to make sure they're there for season next year.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Dan had to step out for a second. Um, Alana, are you on or punam?

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>> Yes, I am. >> Did you want to go over 7B or if Alana's on? >> I think she may not be. Um, okay. But it's basically the state is requiring uh comprehensive vulnerability assessments to be updated. the state changed some

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things for how those vulnerability assessments needed to what what all needed to be addressed and these whatever we do like each city has to do this and when we do that that's what's used when we are going out for grants for certain things um and so this is

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grant funded um so it's a great opportunity for us to get this sorted out and uh out of the way and still be able to utilize uh um the information that we get from the vulnerability assessment to be able to apply for grants and uh also show that we've done

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this completed this task. So, a couple of different things that are driving this. Um but it's a grant-f funed project, so we should be able to move forward with this once it's approved. >> Any questions? >> No.

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>> Okay. 7C. Um we're piggybacking an agreement with Omnia um partners for TD Sinex to handle um cyber security solutions for the city. Um this project uh we we get software services and

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hardware services through this contract and it's just a a renewal or re re-uping a contract that we previously used under city manager report. Um, Commissioner Tur, Vice Mayor Turkin asked us for an update on several

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projects. So, uh, we have an update for the Chapel Hill drainage project. The the engineers will be here to to provide an update. Um, Forest Park playgrounds, also other playgrounds. The parks and recck department will do update on the playground status. And then public works

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will do a a status update on the the the lowest rated roads and and the condition assessment. and then uh and some uh projections on cost and stuff that we have for the remaining the worst roads in the city. Any questions on that item?

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>> Yeah, just real quick on those. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> I was just going to say no, I'm glad we're doing this now well in advance of or at least in advance of budget so we can really talk about, you know, prioritizing, you know, these items and

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making sure we can we can get it in the budget. Yeah, for um for those presentations, Andrew, does it have like the um I know like the big thing recently like having that castle removed. I think I think that you know that should be moved

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forward with a lot of parents are complaining about that. I'm getting emails and pictures as as you are too as you've seen. Um, the other thing is are we looking at potentially like redoing that park or maybe just switching out that castle with something else? And

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then um like obviously what those costs would be if we have the funds for that. Do we have any potential remedies for the the the park? And then um I know we'll go into the drainage with the roads with which are a little bit um I

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think there's a little bit of an overlap there because the remaining roads I know we're holding off until that drainage comes and so I think it's really important for us to really nail down and like try to get this done because otherwise what I see happening is this continues to get kicked down the road.

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the words get the roads get worse and you know maybe we don't get grant funding for this and this project gets pushed out 10 years then we could have done the roads now and at least provided some form of relief you know for the neighborhood and so I really want to focus on like not just like where we're

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at but where we're going and what what options we have to move forward with these projects if that makes sense. >> Yeah. So that may not be actually in the presentation but that's definitely something that we wanted to talk about for sure. I mean, the paving part for sure. I'm we you exactly hit it on on

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the head. You know, we have drainage problems in there, so we're not wanting to fix the roads, but like you're saying, it could be a 10-year time frame. So, by the time we could have paved the roads, they've been ready to repave 10 years from now. So, those are definitely logical items that we'll talk

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through. Um, as far as the forest park, the the castle, we're strictly going to go over the status of the playgrounds, kind of like all the So, we basically we're doing an update from our outside consultant who does a independent inspection on the playgrounds. We're going to go over the status of the

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inspections and then we can talk about which playgrounds are are needing repairs and then we can talk about the castle separate because it's not really identified in the presentation. Um, and we can talk about what you want. If you guys give us that direction, then we can

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go ahead and remove that playground. Uh, make provisions to do that as well. But that'll all be discussed at the meeting for sure. >> Okay. >> Andrew, is is that all the Old Kids Kingdom stuff that they insisted on moving to Forest Park? Is that what that is?

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>> Yeah, that's correct. >> Yeah. >> And I >> which was in horrible condition when it was moved and, you know, fought to be saved. and now here we are having to pay to remove it. It's just it's mind-blowing to me. >> It was it it was definitely a

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controversial move. I know u former commissioner Mike Fitzpatrick, he was part of the design >> and he wanted to see it preserved. But the problem is is we have to we have to align that with the liability that the city's going to absorb in in the event a kid gets hurt.

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>> And >> absolutely. I I I think if we're not maintaining that and when I I've been over there several times and I uh I I just I I think that it definitely needs to be removed. I'm not sure what we need

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to replace it with. Um >> but when the playground >> we'll have a conversation with the neighborhood about that, right? It changes. I think we'll do we, you know, we'll have a meeting. Uh we'll set that up. >> But um I just want to make sure

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's someone's got their their stuff going. Um but yeah anyways um so yeah I just want to make sure like not just rapport and a presentation but some type of you know creative solutions to these

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issues whether that's moving money around you know um whatever the case may be because that you know I don't want to beat a dead horse but that that drainage project you know has been kicked down the can or kicked down the road um you

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know year over year over year and I can understand why but for the residents who don't see anything changing um you know with with regard to you know the the drainage you know they're not that aren't as involved they don't you know they don't they don't understand and um

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you know I just want to make sure that you that's something that I I committed to and I'm going to do everything I can to get that done and advocate you know for whatever you know budget um recommend commendations, transfers, etc. that we need to make going into

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this next fiscal year. >> Definitely looking forward to the conversation. I agree with you that it's very hard pill to swallow for for us to tell you we can't fix your roads because your drainage. We don't know when we're going to fix your drainage. So, we don't want to fix your roads. So, it is it's a

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catch 22 and we definitely need to talk through it. >> Okay. All right. Where did you leave off, Andrew? >> Uh, you're on 10A. >> 10A. >> Okay, Sean, are you uh you on I know this was a uh I think I want to say a

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resident brought this to our attention. >> I'm here. So, a resident brought this to her attention >> and essentially I looked over the ordinance and determined based upon

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the speech that this was an unconstitutional uh restriction of first amendment free speech. So, my recommendation and I I spoke with um Vice Mayor Turkin about it and I I was sent a memo that this needed

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to be removed >> and Shauna and we're just going to rely on the county's uh ordinance at this point. >> Yes, we'll be Yes, we we were restricting further than what the Palm Beach County Code of Ethics did and and that's where the problem was. Um, so you

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know, we can't listen. Obviously, if someone's on a board and there's a conflict, then they shouldn't vote on it. But what this was doing was going further that they couldn't even come to the commission and advocate for it, which was, you know, again, free speech if

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they're not Yeah, it was an issue. So, >> yeah, because code of eth I mean, I've gotten opinions on that and code of ethics is very clear that you can participate in discussion. you just can't vote. So, >> correct. Correct. As long as it's not before your board and you know, if a

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person goes before a board to advocate for it, then it's good. So, yes. So, we're just removing the entire thing. >> Got it. >> All right. So, B, C, and D I'm going to talk about together, and this all has to

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do with our cemeteries. So, for item B, and we've ran into this, I want to say once or twice, where we've had residents that will actually purchase a plot or they will purchase multiple moseliums

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and what they'll do is they'll resell those to residents that are outside the city. And we had one particular instance where they were sold to a company in Boca Raton and they subsequently subdivided the mausoleum plots and sold

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them for profit because the city is essentially subsidizing these plots comparative to private sector um cemeteries. And I'll a perfect example is the Palm Beach County

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Memorial Cemetery which is located at 300 North Serest going towards Hypoxuxo. If you were to go there and try to bury a loved one, um it would cost you anywhere between $8 and $10,000. If you come to the city of Bo Beach, you

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can purchase a plot for $325. So, what you're doing is you're taking city owned property and you're essentially subsidizing the bearing of a loved one for $325.

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And the issue really isn't that. The issue is we have a cemetery fund dedicated to the maintenance and the operations of our cemeteries and the upkeep. So, when we continue to do that, what we're doing is it's twofold because then the city's having to pay to maintain these cemeteries and we've had

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multiple complaints come up at city commission meetings. And so, this is us trying to raise those um prices and not even to where it's going to match the private sector, but at least to where it's going to help us offset some of the

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costs the city's incurring. And we work we work with Commissioner M. McCrae and I want to say Kevin. And so we think $2,500 is a a better price arrangement. Um that's going to help offset the cost that the city's absorbing um with these

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plots. Um 10 C, that's going to essentially go over what I just spoke about about the actual um cost of the uh the cemetery plots. But 10D, that's one of the things I think is going to require a little bit more of a

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comprehensive conversation with the uh commission due to the fact that currently right now we're not really enforcing the rules of our cemeteries. We're allowing people to leave stuffed animals, plant trees, um plant uh

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different bushes and things like that. And essentially they're doing also they're putting gates up, makeshift gates and fences. So, a lot of that stuff is not allowed pursuant to our ordinance, but we've been allowing it out of compassion for uh for those loved

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ones. So, um and we've heard um residents come up voice those same concerns about our cemetery. So, this is us addressing a lot of those concerns. So, um that's what uh 10 B, C, and DA are.

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Andrew, you got anything to add? just um on 10B, that's an actual ordinance that would help um if you guys are agree with that ordinance, it would restrict from the resales and that they would have to resell it back to the city. So that would close that loophole where people

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could actually resell it and make a profit. They would actually have to sell it back to the city. >> Okay. >> Yeah. It prevents them from even having that idea because they're they can't resell it is what you're saying. >> That's correct.

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Right. And >> only if and the only way they could is if we didn't want to buy it back for some reason. >> Well, yeah, that would be crazy. Yeah. >> With regard, Andrew, with regard to the

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to kind of like the the are we planning to like slow roll, you know, now the compliance thing because obviously I don't want to all of a sudden walk in there the next day after this passes and rip everyone's stuff up and then we're, you know, then

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we it just it's a bad look. So I want to make sure we're like we're being compassionate. I mean, that's why they've been able to do what they've been doing. But, you know, we have to I so I want to be mindful of that and make

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sure that we're slow rolling that and you know because now it's the cemetery on a weekly basis and just going to notice or see and so you know you have people that once a year or whatever and so I just

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don't want them to day and their stuff is gone and they have no idea why. >> Yeah. The plan is to to notify everybody and give them 60 days to come into compliance. Um, and then at that point, you know, we're also going to put up

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more signage in the in the in the part in the in the cemetery so that people are aware of the rules and that that we're going to start enforcing them strictly. Um, which is is the best is the practice in most cemeteries. you know, our cemetery. Unfortunately, I

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think um we had some grieving people that that were leaving a stuffed animal here or put up a little um tribute or monument to to their loved one. Um and you know, and we have some people that, you know, that would go there daily and

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just keep it up and it doesn't look as a problem, but then you have others who do the same thing but don't come back for a year and then it looks terrible, you know. So that's the balance that we're trying to find and it is a very sticky situation. That's why we're bringing it to you guys to to make sure that we're all on the same page because we

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definitely don't want to >> u upset people but at the same time we need to be able to make sure everyone's you know enjoying their you know the resting place. So that is going to be something we'll talk about and we definitely will be phasing it and it won't be just a automatic rip everything out. Um we're going to work with

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everybody to make sure that we get come into compliance. Okay. >> Yeah. Maybe we just we don't address things until we've actually heard from the families. Like we don't, you know, it's not we're not putting giving people notice and then

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when the deadline comes and goes and we don't hear anything, then we just go and take care of it. We don't do anything until we've heard and they they're aware, I guess, is just my thought is that we really make sure that we're we're speaking to them before we do

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anything. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I agree with you. Yeah, I would agree with you that even if we don't hear if they don't come into compliance by we at least reach out to them or try can make an effort to make sure that we touch base with them so they understand before we touch their stuff. Understood.

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>> Correct. >> Yeah, that would be my hope. So, thank you. >> All right, guys. That uh concludes the agenda review. If you guys have any uh additional items to add or anything to uh bring up, now's the time. >> Um just note that we will be

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republishing tomorrow to add a proclamation um for police week and um >> so that that'll be tomorrow. >> We need to also add the community support funds, Andrew, for >> correct. That's correct.

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>> Yes. Yeah. And then um I don't know if um Adam or Amanda if I can get a update or when you think um we can have that discussion with regard to the um the art

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feed policy as it pertains to whether that be not for profofits or whether that be industrial or what the options are. I just I had them reach out to me to see if there was an update on when that would be on the agenda. So >> yeah, I actually just met with staff on

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some uh data just today. I asked them for a little bit more research. So I we should be able What are we on? The first meeting in May. Um we could probably do it at the next meeting is the May 19th meeting. >> Okay, perfect.

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Thank you. All righty. All right, guys. Have a good night. >> Thank you. >> Good night, guys. >> Good night. >> Good night.