>> MAYOR: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, IT'S 6:00 P.M., WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR ONE MORE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION. IT'S CUSTOMARY TO WAIT FOR EVERYONE TO ARRIVE.
IF SHE'S NOT HERE BY 6:05 WE WILL BEGIN THE MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> MAYOR: IS JOHN GILMORE IN THE AUDIENCE? GOOD EVENING, BOTH OF YOU
GENTLEMEN.
>> MAYOR: GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, IT IS NOW 6:02 P.M., GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH CITY COMMISSION MEETING. TODAY IS TUESDAY FEBRUARY 18, 2025. THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF OUR
RULES OF CIVILITY AND DECORUM, SPEAKERS MUST BE ADDRESSED BY THE CHAIR AND NOT INTERRUPT OTHER SPEAKERS. PUBLIC COMMENTS MUST BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT ANY PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL ON THE DAIS, AUDIENCE, ATTACKS, INSULTS ARE
STRICTLY PROHIBITED. SHOULD YOU VIOLATE THESE RULES YOU MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE THESE CHAMBERS. LET'S BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL. >> MAYOR PENSERGA? >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER KELLEY?
>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER HAY? >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> HERE. >> THOMAS TURKIN. >> HERE. >> MAYOR: WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LET'S ALL
STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, THIS EVENING, PASTOR. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. ALL MIGHTY GOD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY AT THE START OF ANOTHER MEETING OF THIS CITY COMMISSION, AND WE REMEMBER THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY KIND TO US, IN
GIVING US SO MANY BLESSINGS. THE COMMUNITY, THE GOVERNMENT, THE PUBLIC SERVANTS IN THIS ROOM, THE TALENTS AND ABILITIES TO SERVE THIS CITY, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR ALL OF THIS COMES FROM YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THE DIVERSITY AND BEAUTY THAT IS REPRESENTEDS
IN THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT WORK TO PROTECT AND CARE FOR THIS CITY. NOW AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE FAVOR ON THIS TIME. ON THE WORK OF THIS GATHERING. WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM AND GUIDANCE.
WE PRAY FOR THE GOOD OF THIS CITY. WE PRAY THAT THIS MEETING WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AND HELPFUL, AND THAT THOSE INVOLVED WOULD BE CHARITABLE IN THEIR DISAGREEMENTS. FATHER, WE PRAY FOR YOUR FAVORITE TONIGHT. AND I PRAY ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.
>> AMEN. [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ]
>> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS AGENDA APROVAL, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS AND CORRECTIONS. LET ME BEGIN ON MY LEFT THIS TIME WITH COMMISSIONER TURKIN. WHAT ABOUT COMMISSION HAY DID YOU HAVE ANY REQUESTS?
>> NO. >> MAYOR: VICE MAYOR? >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO A -- MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING IN MARCH, A CONVERSATION ABOUT TAKING A LEGISLATIVE BREAK IN JUNE LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. >> I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> MAYOR: LEGISLATIVE BREAK IN JUNE. NO OBJECTION TO THAT FROM MY COLLEAGUES? I'M SEEING NO OBJECTIONS. WE'LL ADD THAT TO A FUTURE AGENDA. COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> YES, SINCE I KNOW I HAVE A
CONSTITUENTS HERE FOR ITEM 10C, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT UP TO PRIOR TO PUBLIC HEARING IF POSSIBLE? >> MAYOR: ITEM 10C, DISCUSSION
OF CONSTRUCTION HOURS NEAR RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT UP TO -- >> BEFORE 8. >> MAYOR: I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT. ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES?
IF THERE ARE NO MORE DISCUSSION, LET'S HAVE A MOTION. TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AGENDA. >> APPROVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL IN FAVOR. >> AYE.
>> MAYOR: MOVING ON TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS FROM THE CITY COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER CRUZ IN. >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY. >> MAYOR: VICE MAYOR IN. >> NO, MAYOR, I DO NOT. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER HAY? >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO -- IN CONTINUING MY COMMENTS ON BLACK
HISTORY MONTH. TONIGHT I WANT TO BRING MY COMMENTS TO OUR HOME CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. BOYNTON BEACH IS A CITY OF MANY FIRSTS, WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK
HISTORY. THE FIRST BLACK POLICE OFFICER IN BOYNTON BEACH WAS OFFICER WILLIE BUTTER. A/K/A, OFFICER BILL BUTLER.
OFFICER BILL BUTLER WAS FORBIDDEN IN THE WHITE COMMUNITY. HE COULD NOT ARREST WHITE FOLKS. HE HAD TO DRIVE HIS PERSONAL CAR
TO PATROL THE BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT GIVE HIM A POLICE PATROL CAR. NEXT MANY OF YOU REMEMBER DR. SAMUEL LAMAR WRIGHT SENIOR. DR. LAMAR WRIGHT IS A NATIVE FLORIDIAN.
HE GREW UP IN BOYNTON BEACH. LAMAR WRIGHT WAS THE FIRST BLACK CITY COUNCILMAN IN BOYNTON BEACH, HE MOVED TO TAMPA IN 1985, WHERE HE SERVED AS A
PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA. WE HAVE ISSA HESSLER, HE WAS THE FIRST APPOINTED AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITY MAYOR IN BOYNTON BEACH IN
1988. AND THEN THERE WAS MISS LILLIAN OTTIS WHO IS MY BLOOD SISTER, SHE IS A SCHOOLTEACHER AND CITY COUNCILMAN. SHE WAS THE FIRST BLACK FEMALE
CITY COMMISSIONER IN BOYNTON BEACH SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN INITIATING THE CITY'S FIRST BLACK AWARENESS CELEBRATION IN 1980. SHE PRODUCED A GOSPEL CONCERT IN
WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE HERITAGE FESTIVAL HELD EVERY FEBRUARY. NEXT WE HAVE PERRY PATTERSON, THE FIRST BLACK FIREFIGHTER IN BOYNTON BEACH FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. HE IS THE BROTHER OF SISTER
MELINDA COLLINS OF NEW MT. ZION MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN BOYNTON BEACH. THEN WE HAVE A YOUNG LADY BY THE NAME OF NATASHA DENISE KLEMEN. 2345 TASHA, THE FIRST BLACK
FEMALE TO BE A DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF IN BOYNTON BEACH. NATASHA CLEMENS IS A HOMETOWN GIRL FROM A SMALL SECTION OF OUR CITY KNOWN AS CHERRY HILL RIGHT
HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH. BOYNTON BEACH IS THE ONLY CITY THAT I KNOW OF IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS TWO HEISMAN TROPHY WINNERS. LAMAR JACKSON WAS THE FIRST
HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER. AND YOU GET THE HEISMAN TROPHY BY BEING THE BEST NFL PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY. AND SECONDLY, WE NOW HAVE TRAVIS HUNTER WHO PLAYED WITH OUR OWN
LITTLE BULLDOGS RIGHT HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH. THEN THERE'S YOURS TRULY. COMMISSIONER WOODROW L. HAY. I'M THE FIRST ORDAINED MINISTER TO SERVE AS CITY MAYOR, VICE
MAYOR AND AS COMMISSIONER HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH. I'M STILL LEARNING A LOT ABOUT MY OWN HERITAGE.
RECENTLY I READ ABOUT GLORIA GILMORE WHO WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE TO HAVE HER PAPERS IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, MANUSCRIPTS. THERE ARE MANY, MANY OTHERS THAT I COULD MENTION.
WE AS AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE A RICH HISTORY -- RIGHT HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH. THEN THERE'S YOURS TRULY. >> MAYOR: WE HAVE AN ECHO. LET'S GIVE IT ONE MINUTE. WE HAVE A RICH HISTORY AND ARE
PROUD TO TELL THE WORLD ABOUT IT. HEAR THIS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. BLACK HISTORY IS AMERICAN HISTORY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
>> MAYOR: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER HAY, COMMISSIONER TURKIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATIONAL ITEMS? >> NO. >> MAYOR: THE NEXT PART OF THE
AGENDA ARE FOR ANNOUNCEMENTES, COMMUNITY AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND PRESENTATIONS. THE FIRST IS A PROCLAMATION 211 AWARENESS MONTH. LET'S BRING UP THE PROCLAMATION SO I CAN READ IT INTO THE RECORD. THE PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS. 211 HELP LINE AND CRISIS LINE
CONTINUES TO BE THAT BEACON OF HOPE, PROVIDING LIFE SAVING CRISIS SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE OVERWHELMED AND DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN. PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND WALKS OF LIFE ARE REACHING OUT ABOUT THEIR GROWING STRUGGLES AND MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH,
ADDITION, HOUSING AND OTHER CONCERNS. 211 STAFF LISTEN TO EACH AND EVERY PERSON TO PROVIDE VALUABLE RESOURCE OPTIONS, AND TO HELP THEM STRATEGIZE AND PROBLEM SOLVE. 211 HAS SPECIALIZED ADVOCACY AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT INCLUDE CAREGIVER
SUPPORT, HELP ME GROW, AND 211'S LIFE SAVING SUNSHINE DAILY PHONE CALLS, WHICH CONTINUE TO BRIGHTEN THE LIVES OF ISOLATED SENIORS AND CAREGIVERS. WHEREAS 211 ALSO RESPONDS TO THE 988 LIFELINE NUMBER AND SUPPORT
LINES THAT INCLUDE FIRST RESPONDERS AND MY FLORIDA VET FOR VETERANS WITH PEER TO PEER SUPPORT, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO THESE SPECIALIZED GROUPS AND THEIR FAMILIES. NOW, THEREFORE, I TY PENSERGA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BOYNTON
BEACH, PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 18, 2025 AS 211 AWARENESS MONTH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU DO. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. TY BARNES IF YOU COULD COME UP AND ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION, IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE GREAT WORK YOU ARE DOING. LET ME COME DOWN AND GIVE THIS
TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS RECOGNITION. AND FOR HELPING RAISE 211 AWARENESS. 211 IS THE ONLY 24-HOUR A DAY 7-DAY A WEEK CRISIS LINE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. LAST YEAR WE TOOK NEARLY 120,000
CALLS FOR HELP. WE RESPONDED, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF THE IMPACT IN THE BOYNTON BEACH COMMUNITY. WE RESPONDED TO 6,700 NEEDS OR PROBLEMS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OVER A THIRD OF THOSE WERE
HOUSING RELATED. SO ABOUT -- OVER 2300 HOUSING RELATED PROBLEMS AND NEEDS FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. FOLLOWED BY 17% WERE SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS, AND OVER 10% OF THOSE WERE FOR
UTILITY ASSISTANCE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 750 COLORS WITH NEEDS RELATED TO UTILITY ASSISTANCE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AND AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE DO RESPOND TO TAKING CALLS FROM THE NATIONAL 988 SUICIDE
HOTLINE. 65 OF THOSE CALLS WERE SUICIDE RELATED CALLS, HERE IN THE BOYNTON BEACH COMMUNITY LAST YEAR. ANYONE FACING THESE STRUGGLES CAN GET A CARING VOICE AND CONCRETE HELP.
WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, FOR THEIR PARENTS, FOR CAREGIVERS, ELDERLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, VETERANS AND FIRST RESPONDERS. WE DO ALL THAT BY MAINTAINING A DATABASE OF 1600 AGENCIES, WITH
LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF RESOURCES FOR MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY. EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY 365 DAYS A YEAR, OUR TEAM IS HERE TO HELP. WE'RE ACCESSIBLE VIA TEXT, CALL, CHAT. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR THIS
RECOGNITION, AND HELPING ENSURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT 211 IS HERE TO HELP THEM. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> MAYOR: THE NEXT PROCLAMATION
FOR THIS EVENING IS FOR THE LORD'S PLACE, THE PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS. HOMELESSNESS IS A SERIOUS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC ISSUE, IMPACTING ALL LEVELS MUCH OUR SOCIETY, THE
CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH AND THE LORD'S PLACE RECOGNIZE THAT ALL PEOPLE DESERVE RESPECT AND A PLACE TO CALL HOME. THE LORD'S PLACE ARE PARTNERS IN PROVIDING A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR MEN, WOMEN AND FAMILIES WHO ARE HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH EXTENDS ITS APPRECIATION FOR LEADERSHIP ON THIS CRITICAL SOCIAL ISSUE, AND IT'S WIDE ARRAY OF SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, CHANGING THE LIVES OF THE HOMELESS ONE LIFE AT A TIME. AND WHEREAS THE LORD'S PLACE
WILL HOLD ITS INAUGURAL 5K MARCH TO END HOMELESSNESS ON FRIDAY --
ENDING WITH A CEREMONIAL PROGRAM AT 150 NORTH CLEMATIS IN WEST PALM BEACH. MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUPPORTING SLEEP OUT, INCLUDING THE HONORABLE M. BROWN, AND
WHEREAS THE MISSION OF THE LORD'S PLACE IS TO END THE CYCLE OF HOMELESSNESS AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE SERVICES TO MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY. I, TY PENSERGA, MAYOR OF BOYNTON
BEACH, FLORIDA PROCLAIM MAY 8, 2025, AS THE LORD'S PLACE SLEEPOUT TO END HOMELESSNESS AWARENESS DAY. I WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO JOHN GILMORE. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE CENTER, SO HAVE MY
COLLEAGUES, AND YOU'RE DOING PHENOMENAL WORK. WE KNOW YOU HAVE A CERTAINER IN BOYNTON BEACH, IF YOU COULD SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE GREAT WORK YOU'RE DOING IN OUR
CITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> MY NAME IS JOHN GILMORE, I'M DIRECTOR OF SERVICES AT THE LORD'S PLACE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR MAYOR AND OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. THIS MEANS A LOT TO US. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE CAMPUS HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH, WE SERVICE 50 MEN AND --
>> MAYOR: WOULD YOU MIND COMING CLOSER TO THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU BETTER. >> MY NAME IS JOHN GILMORE, DIRECTOR OF MEN'S SERVICES AT THE LORD'S PLACE. WE HAVE A MEN'S CAMPUS RIGHT HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH.
THERE WE SERVICE 50 MEN THAT ARE EITHER RETURNING CITIZENS FROM THE PALM BEACH SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HOMELESS, PEOPLE FROM THE LEWIS CENTER, CLIENTS THAT HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE. WE HAVE AN ARRAY OF PEER
SPECIALISTS THAT HAVE A LIVED EXPERIENCE THAT SERVICE THEIR CLIENTS IN HELPING THEM MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL RATE. WE HAD OVER 80 CLIENTS THAT LEAVE OUR PROGRAM AND RETURN WITH FAMILY, GET THEIR OWN APARTMENTS AND MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES. IT'S BEEN 90%, WE JUST WENT UP.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SERVE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND RETURN THEM FROM WHATEVER WALKS OF LIFE, TO BE TAX PAYING CITIZENS WITH JOBS, AND MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT CAUSING ANY RESIDCI
RECIDIVISM. AND IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO LEAD THAT PROGRAM AND THE LORD'S PLACE. WE WOULD WELCOME YOU TO COME OUT TO OUR MARCH TO END HOMELESSNESS, OUR GOAL IS TO RAISE A MINIMUM OF $350,000.
AND THE HONORABLE A.M. BROWN IS GOING TO MATCH THAT FOR US. WE THANK YOU, AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO PARTNER HERE IN BOYNTON BEACH, AND CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY A GREAT COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN.
[ APPLAUSE ] >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. WELL DESERVED PROCLAMATIONS. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE AGENDA. AS ALWAYS THE SAME RULES APPLY, WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, EACH PERSON HAS THREE MINUTES. AFTER WE CONCLUDE WITH THOSE IN
THE ROOM, WE'LL GO TO THOSE ONLINE. AND LET ME GET THE TIMER READY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. >> SHAKING IT UP TONIGHT, SUSAN
OYER BOYNTON BEACH. I WANTED TO NOTE, WE HAD OUR 13th SHOOTING OF THE YEAR SUNDAY NIGHT ABOUT 12:36 IN THE SAND CASTLE AREA. SO I HOPE WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND FIX WHATEVER WAS WRONG, BECAUSE WE
WENT SEVERAL WEEKS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. MY TOPIC OF THE NIGHT IS TRANSPARENCY AND THE NEED FOR IT. SO I'M QUITE DISTURBED BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, I'M QUITE THE ENVIRONMENTALIST, I'M ALWAYS SENDING YOU GUYS EMAILS AND
TAGGING YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF, ABOUT WHATEVER COOL ISSUE IS OUT THERE THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. I WAS QUITE DISTRESSED, AND I THANK YOU BARBARA FOR MENTIONING THIS. WE HAVE HAD TO DIG A DEEPER
WELL, BECAUSE THE TOP WELL IS GOING DRY OR RUNNING SHORT OF WATER. WE ARE IN A DROUGHT, I DON'T SEE THE CITY DOING ANYTHING. SO I'M CONSTANTLY STEPPING UP ABOUT THIS, AND SAYING, WE NEED TO STOP BUILDING APARTMENTS, WE CANNOT PUT ANY MORE SHOWERS AND
TOILETS AND DISHWASHERS AND WASHING MACHINES IN THIS CITY, IF WE'RE DIGGING DEEPER WELLS TO ACCESS WATER, THAT MEANS THERE'S NO WATER. THERE ARE STORIES COMING OUT IN NEWSPAPERS IN TAMPA AND ACROSS THE STATE. I GET FLORIDA TREND, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOW THE
STATE IS RUNNING OUT OF WATER. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE ONE OF THE OLD ORIGINAL CITIES, WE SHOULD NOT BE FOLLOWING. WHAT ARE ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO. IN ADDITION TO STOPPING THE INSANE BUILDING OF APARTMENTS, THAT WE DON'T NEED.
THERE'S AS MANY PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF THE STATE AS THERE ARE MOVING IN, SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING, IT NEEDS TO BE REDISTRIBUTED. WE NEED TO BE CHANGING OUR CODES FOR MORE WATER SAVING OPTIONS. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I TAKE ISSUE
ON IS, 7B ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THEY'RE PUTTING IN 953,516,000 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION. NOT THAT THIS IS NOT A VALID
ISSUE, HOW ARE WE SPENDING ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS ON A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPARENCY. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO FINISH OUR CODE ISSUES. YOU BROUGHT UP THE LIMIT OF HAVING TREES NEAR ANY KIND OF
LINES. DID IT EVER GET FINISHED? DID YOU DECIDE ON 15 FEET OR 25 FEET? DID YOU PICK A DATE FOR THAT TO COME INTO EFFECT. HOW ABOUT THE ASTROTURF ISSUE. THE CARPORT CODES WHICH, I
MEAN,S THAT POOR MAN COMES UP EVERY WEEK, I WANT TO CRY WHEN I LISTEN TO HIM. ARE WE SENDING OUT OUR RULES YET? I KNOW DAN HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS, IT TELLS YOU BASIC RULES, WHAT YOU NEED A PERMIT FOR AND WHAT YOU DON'T. THESE ARE EASY THINGS TO FIX,
TRANSPARENCY IS A KEY, AND HERE'S A FIST FOR EACH OF YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. >> MY NAME IS CINDY FALCO-DiCORRADO.
I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT, LAST WEEK, AS I WATCHED THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL IN THIS ROOM. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT, WHICH EACH OF YOU HAVE PARTICIPATED IN
IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. EACH OF YOU MUST BE REEDUCATED IN WHAT IS PROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR, TO LEARN HOW TO GOVERN YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY. I WAS ASSAULTED RIGHT HERE IN THIS VERY ROOM, BY SERGEANT GENE WITTY, ALL OF YOU ARE WITNESSES,
TO WHAT YOU SAW SITTING IN THIS ROOM, ME BEING ATTACKED. THE DISRESPECT, DISREGARD OF WE THE PEOPLE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT A COLOR, A PEOPLE. GROSS NEGLIGENCE OR INCOMPETENCE, KEEPING POOR
RECORDS, ABUSIVE BEHAVIORS, FALSIFYING RECORDS, CONFLICT OF INTEREST. FAILING TO MEET PROFESSIONAL OBLIGATIONS, PRACTICING BEYOND ONE'S QUALIFICATIONS AND ENGAGING IN ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS WITH FELLOW CO-WORKERS. WHO DEFINES THESE PROFESSIONAL
MISCONDUCTS, I'LL TELL YOU WHO, THE PROFESSIONAL BODIES, REGULATORY AGENCIES AND THE LAW. IT'S VERY SAD TO COME IN HERE SOMETIMES AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PEOPLE WE ARE TO BE RESPECTING, AND WHO ARE TO FIGHT FOR US.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THOSE WHO DID SUPPORT ME IN THE COMMENTS ON THE BOYNTON BEACH GONE WILD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS OF SUPPORT OF THE ABUSE I HAD TO PUT UP WITH, AND WAS DONE IN THIS VERY ROOM. NOW I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ANOTHER ISSUE IN REGARD TO FOIA'S.
A FREEDOM FOR INFORMATION ACT. FALSIFYING A FOIA CAN LEAD TO CRIMINAL PENALTIES, INCLUDING A FINE UP TO $5,000 OR IMPRISONMENT. IT'S A FEDERAL LAW THAT GRANTS WE THE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO REQUEST RECORDS FROM ANY UNITED
STATES AGENCY. THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THE MOST LAWSUITS AGAINST THEM? WELL, AS YOU KNOW, MY DOCUMENT WAS FORGED, IT WAS NOT DONE ACCURATELY, IT WAS DONE UNDER
PERJURY AND THEY LIED ON THAT DOCUMENT. I ATTRIBUTE THIS TO POOR LEADERSHIP. FALSIFYING A FOIA REPORT, YOU
LOST THE VIDEO, THAT'S REMOVING INFORMATION. THAT'S CRIMINAL. WE THE PEOPLE MUST DO BETTER AT HOLDING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S A DUTY, IT'S NOT A CULTURAL OR SHADE OF SKIN COLOR ISSUE. IT'S CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, THAT IS YOU AND THAT IS ME. IF IT'S BEEN DONE TO ONE OF US, IT'S BEEN DONE TO ONE OF US. IT GOES TO THE VERY CORE OF OUR FREEDOMS, WE THE PEOPLE MUSTITE. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. LET'S NOT FALL INTO THIS PIT AGAIN.
>> MAYOR: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. EITHER SIDE. YOU'RE GOING TO PASS THAT OUT? THAT'S FINE.
>> THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL YOU GET IT OR SHOULD I START? >> MAYOR: WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS WREN STEEN. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE
TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US. HOW HARD IT IS TO USE OUR CITY'S WEBSITE. LET'S TAKE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE, IT'S EASY TO USE, IT HAS A LANGUAGE BAR AT THE TOP, SO PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH CAN STILL NAVIGATE
THE SITE. THERE'S A FONT SIZE TOOL, SO PEOPLE WHO HAVE TROUBLE SEEING, HAVE HELP. IT'S BOYNTON-BEACH.ORG. RIGHT NOW THE TOP OF THE HOME PAGE IS EMPTY, THE LANGUAGE BAR
IS AT THE BOTTOM, MAKING IT HARDER TO FIND, WHILE THE SITE DOES SUPPORT 248 LANGUAGES, YOU HAVE TO ZOOM OUT TO ACTUALLY SEE ALL 248 LANGUAGES. WHY DO WE HAVE 248 LANGUAGES WHEN OUR STAFF DOESN'T SPEAK MOST OF THOSE LANGUAGES.
WE SHOULD HAVE IT SIMILAR TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE, WHERE IT'S FOR THE MAJORITY, FRENCH, HAITIAN-CREOLE AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE, WHERE HOMEOWNERS MUST FILL OUT APPLICATIONS JUST TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S NO LANGUAGE BAR AT ALL. IMAGINE SOMEONE TRYING TO USE THE WEBSITE WHO DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH. THEY MAY HAVE TO TAKE TIME OFF WORK TO COME TO CITY HALL FOR HELP. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ON LINE. GOOGLE TRANSLATE IS FREE, YET IT
HASN'T BEEN ADDED TO THE WEBSITE. LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING EVEN MORE CONFUSING, BOYNTON-BEACH.ORG. WHY WHEN WE GO TO BOYNTONBEACH.ORG IT GOES TO BOCA RATON'S CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS, THIS
IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR OUR CITY'S REPUTATION. IF SOMEONE'S LOOKING FOR OFFICIAL INFORMATION, AND ENDS UP IN BOCA RATON INSTEAD OF OUR WEBSITE, IT MAKES US LOOK UNORGANIZED AND UNPROFESSIONAL. WHO IS MANAGING THE WEBSITE, WAS
THIS DONE ON PURPOSE OR BY MISTAKE. BOYNTON BEACH DESERVES A STRONG RELIABLE ONLINE PRESENCE, NOT A CONFUSING MESS. AS A CITY, WE CAN AND MUST DO BETTER. I ASK THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE FIXING THESE WEBSITES A PRIORITY. MOVING THE LANGUAGE BAR TO THE
TOP, AND USING GOOGLE TRANSLATE WILL HELP THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, AND WE MUST FIX BOYNTON BEACH.ORG, SO IT DIRECTS PEOPLE TO THE RIGHT PLACE. BOYNTON BEACH IS A GREAT CITY, AND OUR WEBSITE SHOULD REFLECT THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THESE CHANGES AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, AGAIN, GUYS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> MAYOR: NEXT SPEAKER, ANYONE ELSE INSIDE THE CHAMBERS? >> I HAVE SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS HERE FOR -- IF YOU
WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT. SO IT'S NOW OR NEVER. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER. LIKE ALL SPEAKERS, IT'S THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. I'M GLAD YOU CLARIFIED THAT, IT'S A GOOD THING.
EITHER ONE OF YOU, WE HAVE TWO 30ED YUMS. STATE -- PODIUMS, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND START WHEN YOU'RE READY. >> MY NAME IS BETH SANSOM. I LIVE ON MONTERREY CIRCLE. THIS IS ABOUT ITEM 10 D, THE
CONSTRUCTION HOURS NEAR RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES JUST 40 FEET FROM A HUGE WAREHOUSE THAT IS BEING BUILT AT EGRET POINT, 3800 SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE, I
HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF HOW LOUD AND DISRUPTIVE CONSTRUCTION IS. IN THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS, I'VE EXPERIENCED AND ACTUALLY MY ENTIRE COMMUNITY HAS EXPERIENCED THESE THINGS. HEAVY EQUIPMENT MOVING AS EARLY
AS 6:15 A.M., SHAKING OUR ENTIRE BUILDINGS. AND I MEAN RATTLING THE LIGHTS THAT ARE HANGING FROM OUR CEILINGS. RATTLING THE WINDOWS. I FEEL IT SHAKING IN MY SOFA, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
THE HOUSE. AND LITERALLY THE PICTURES ON MY WALLS HAVE BEEN TILTED. I'VE HAD TO FIX THEM MULTIPLE TIMES. LOUD GRINDING, CONCRETE FROM THE OLD BUILDING, THE PLUMES OF DUST
SO THICK IT LOOKS LIKE A FIRE. I'VE HAD HEADACHES AND A HARD TIME BREATHING FOR MORE THAN SIX WEEKS. THAT WAS EARLY IN THE CONSTRUCTION. MOST RECENTLY, LOUD POUNDING ALL DAY, EVEN ON A SATURDAY, WHEN EVERYONE'S HOME.
MY NEIGHBORS ARE TRYING TO ENJOY THEMSELVES, TRYING TO HAVE A PEACEFUL SATURDAY, AND THERE'S NO SUCH THING. TRUCKS BEEPING ALL DAY LONG AS THEY'RE BACKING UP. AND THE CEMENT POURS FROM MIDNIGHT TO 4:00 A.M. WHEN
RESIDENTS ARE SLEEPING, JUST 25 TO 40 FEET FROM WHERE THOSE POURS ARE HAPPENING, IT WAS BAD. IT WOKE ME UP, IT WOKE UP OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT WAS DEFINITELY NOT A GOOD
THING, AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE CITY ISSUED THE SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THE CEMENT POURS. BOYNTON BEACH CURRENTLY ALLOWS CONSTRUCTION NOISE UNTIL 10:00 P.M. AT NIGHT. 10:00 P.M. CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING A
1-YEAR-OLD AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT 1-YEAR-OLD TO SLEEP AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION NOISE GOING ON? THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. MOST TOWNS IN OUR AREA RESTRICT NOISE TO ENDING BY 8:00 P.M.
MOST. CONSTRUCTION NOISE HAS DISRUPTED MY WORKING FROM HOME, MY SLEEP AND MY ABILITY TO ENJOY MY PROPERTY. I LIKE MANY PEOPLE HAVE PAID MY TAXES, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT MY CITY COMMISSIONERS ARE
LOOKING OUT FOR ME. AS WELL AS MY FELLOW RESIDENTS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. >> PLEASE VOTE AGAINST -- OR PLEASE VOTE FOR THE REVISED HOURS. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER? >> HELLO, COMMISSION. MY NAME'S AMELIA, I LIVE AT 165 LAKE MONTERREY CIRCLE. MY HOME IS DIRECTLY BEHIND ONE OF THESE GIGANTIC EYESORES THAT
HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO BE THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED IT, RIGHT NOW OUR MOST PRESSING ISSUE IS THAT SPECIAL PERMIT IS DONE. BUT THE NOISE THAT IS STILL
ALLOWED UNTIL -- I THOUGHT IT WAS 12:00, IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. IS RIDICULOUS, WE HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO DURING THESE EIGHT MONTHS HAVE BEEN WOKEN UP CONTINUOUSLY. ADULTS, WHO DON'T -- I
PERSONALLY GET OFF OF WORK AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, TO GO HOME, A HOME IS DIFFERENT FROM A HOUSE. A HOME IS SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AT THE END OF THE DAY AND FIND PIECE. YET MY NEIGHBORS ARE AVOIDING THEIR HOME DURING THE DAY.
THEY CAN'T FIND PEACE THERE. I GO HOME AND I WORRY ABOUT HOW I'M GOING TO COME HOME TO MY HOUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY. WHEN I HAVE MY DAYS OFF, I DON'T GET TO ENJOY MY HOUSE, I CAN'T
WATCH TV IN PEACE. I CAN'T JUST BE IN MY HOME LISTENING OR HAVING SILENCE BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION ALL DAY LONG. I GET HOME AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, AND I SHOWER AND I GET
READY FOR BED, AND TO LAY MY HEAD ON THAT PILLOW, AND AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING BE GREETED BY CONSTRUCTION NOISE, FINALLY BE ABLE TO SLEEP AND GET WOKEN UP AT 4:00, 5:00, TO THEN WAKE UP
AND HAVE TO DO A DAY OF WORK. I DON'T GET HOW ANYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BE PRODUCTIVE, LET ALONE BE ABLE TO HAVE THOUGHTS WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS ALLOWED TO GO ON UNTIL 12:00.
THEY HAVE VIOLATED THE SOUND RESTRAINT BEFORE TO ALLOW IT TO KEEP GOING ON TO THE LATE HOURS OF THE MORNING IS UNACCEPTABLE. PLEASE CHANGE THIS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ] >> MAYOR: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS? LAST CALL. LET'S GO TO THOSE ONLINE. I SEE ONE PERSON ONLINE, THERE IS A MIKE K., MIKE, YOU MAY UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS REMAINING, SINCE YOU'RE ONLINE. BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME FOR
THE RECORD. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS MIKE KNEWER, I LIVE AT 57 VISTA DELRIO. THE LAST TIME I HAD AN ISSUE WITH MY NEIGHBORS THAT WERE
SPYING INTO MY BACKYARD WITH VIDEO CAMERAS, THE CITY AND THE POLICE DID NOTHING UNTIL I CAME TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SO HERE I AM AGAIN WITH ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN UNRESOLVED AND REFUSED TO BE ADDRESSED. THE LEASH LAW IN PALM BEACH
COUNTY, I'VE DOCUMENTED MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS OF MY NEIGHBOR WITH THEIR GERMAN SHEPHERD RUNNING LOOSE BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND AROUND THE HOUSE, RUNNING ON THE EASEMENT, AND NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WHEN LIZ WAS STILL WORKING WITH
BOYNTON BEACH, SHE SENT THEM AN OFFICIAL WARNING LETTER. WHEN SHE RETIRED, I GUESS IT WENT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY HAVE REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I'VE SENT VIDEO DOCUMENTATION AS WELL AS MULTIPLE EMAILS, AND NOTHING'S
BEEN DONE. SO I'M JUST HERE TO PLEAD WITH YOU FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR UPHOLDING THE LAWS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, TO PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE LOOK INTO THIS, AND STOP THEM FROM LETTING
THEIR DOG RUN AROUND LOOSE ALL THE TIME. IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE SMALL DOGS, THAT THEY WALK THEM ON LEASHES, AND TO HAVE GERMAN SHEPHERDS ROAMING
FREE IS ACCEPTABLE AND DANGEROUS. JUST WANTED TO PLEAD WITH THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR HELP IN HAVING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE ADDRESS THAT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST PERSON FOR PUBLIC AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC AUDIENCE IS NOW CLOSED. WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PORTION, THERE'S NOTHING UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE. ANY ITEMS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL UNDER CONSENT AGENDA? ANY REQUESTS. COMMISSIONER CRUZ?
>> I RECEIVED A CALL FROM ONE OF THE PROPERTY MANAGERS FROM MONTERREY, HE WANTED ME TO DISCUSS 6-C. >> MAYOR: LET'S PULL ITEM 6-C THEN. ANY OTHER REQUESTS, BESIDES 6-C? I'M HEARING NO OTHER REQUESTS.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE ENTIRETY OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
LET'S NOW ADDRESS 6-C. IT READS, PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 25-047 AMEND CIP 303
FUND BY UTILIZING $15,000 FROM FUND BALANCE TO COVER FOR A CHANGE ORDER FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 203,080.80. FOR UNFORSEEN ISSUES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF LITTLE LEAGUE/HIGH POINT PRIVACY WALL
CONSTRUCTION. MR. RAMSEY, IS THERE ANYONE FROM STAFF THAT WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? ANDREW? >> CAN I -- IS IT OKAY? >> MAYOR: 6-C? >> YES, I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW
COMMENTS. >> MAYOR: THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. >> I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE TOWN HALL. I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN IN MY DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO MONTERREY, THE
CONSTRUCTION, THE NOISE AND THE LIGHT THAT'S AFFECTING MY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE'RE BUILDING A WALL NEARBY ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL AREA,
WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT THING TO DO. I RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENTS ASKING, WHAT ABOUT US, WHAT ABOUT MONTERREY. WHEN DOES MONTERREY GET A PRIVACY WALL, AND WHEN DOES MONTERREY GET THE SAME BENEFIT
TO PROTECT FROM THE NOISE AND LIGHTING NEARBY. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE -- MANY OF YOU ARE NODDING YOUR HEADS, WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST. YOU WANT THAT PRIVACY WALL. THE CURRENT PROJECT IS ONLY 6 FOOT.
AND CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY FEET THIS WALL IS GOING TO BE? >> MAYOR: I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU FROM THE MIC. >> THE WALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S COMPLETED. THAT WAS DONE PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO, TWO 1/2 MONTHS AGO.
YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TALL IT IS? IT'S 6 FEET. >> THE SAME THING AS THE OTHER ONE. OKAY. SO THE COMMUNITY IN MONTERREY WANTS THE WALL BY THEIR PROPERTY TO BE TALLER, AND SO I WANTED TO
MAYBE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WHAT CAN WE DO? I KNOW THEY'RE HERE TODAY, AND THEY'VE ASKED ME QUESTIONS MULTIPLE TIMES, I'VE HAD TOWN HALLS WITH THEM THAT LASTED OVER 2 HOURS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP
THIS COMMUNITY? SO I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT, I WANT TO OPEN UP THAT QUESTION OF LIKE WHAT CAN WE DO? WITH POTENTIALLY SETTING AWAY
SOME FUNDING TO HELP THAT PROJECT, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY OF MONTERREY CAN HAVE THE PRIVACY THEY NEED WITH REGARD TO THE NOISE AND THE LIGHT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THE PARTICULAR WALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ON THE CITY'S
PROPERTY, WHICH IS DELINEATED FROM THE HIGH POINT RESIDENCE. >> YEAH. >> THE SITUATION YOU'RE MENTIONING IN MONTERREY IS TOO PRIVATE, THE CITY CAN'T SPEND FUNDS ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT'S SOMETHING -- I BELIEVE THEY ALREADY HAVE A PRIVACY WALL
THERE, CORRECT? >> YEAH, IT'S 6 FEET, ACCORDING TO MY CONSTITUENTS, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
>> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER CRUZ, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I CAN TELL THIS IS GOING TO BE A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION, A VERY IMPORTANT AND MUCH NEEDED CONVERSATION, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE COULD ADD TO ANOTHER ITEM FOR TODAY'S AGENDA?
OR A FUTURE AGENDA. >> YEAH. >> MAYOR: I REALIZE THIS REQUIRES MORE INFORMATION. >> YEAH, THAT'S FINE. >> MAYOR: ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. >> THAT'S ALL, THAT WAS IT, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR, IF I MAY. I THINK PART OF THIS MIGHT BE,
MAYBE STAFF CAN REACH OUT TO THAT DEVELOPER, DOING THAT INDUSTRIAL SPACE, AND MAYBE IN GOOD FAITH, THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS SINCE THE CITY CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> I'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR THAT, AND THEY SAID IT COSTS TOO MUCH
MONEY. >> SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE OIL, MAYBE WE KEEP ASKING. >> YEAH, I -- THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT, AND MAYBE WE CAN ADD THIS TO A FUTURE
MEETING, AS YOU SAY, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO A FUTURE COMMISSION MEETING IF WE COULD DISCUSS THIS, IT'S BEEN STATED BY YOURSELF TO TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PER CODE, COULD WE HAVE THAT
DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE AND SEEING IF IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EXPAND TO POTENTIALLY HELP RESIDENTS. WHEN WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT IS FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T -- ART IS GREAT, BUT A WALL OF PRIVACY AND PROTECTION FOR NOISE AND FOR QUALITY OF LIFE HAS SO MUCH MORE VALUE.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD EXPAND THAT DEFINITION AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MEETING, SO WE CAN AT LEAST JUST HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND TALK ABOUT IT? >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA YET, I ASKED ABOUT THIS
IN DECEMBER, WITH REGARDS TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, SO MAYBE THIS IS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WITH A WIDER SCOPE, YOU KNOW, TO INCLUDE THIS EXACT SITUATION. I THINK IF I'M A RESIDENT, I'M
SORRY FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, ESPECIALLY THE WOMAN WHO HAS TO WORK UNTIL 2:00 A.M., IF IT'S A MATTER OF HAVING A PRIVACY WALL OR A PIECE OF ART, I THINK THE MORE OPERATIONAL NECESSARY THING IS
THE PRIVACY WALL, I THINK IF I'M A RESIDENT, I'M GOING TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE, AND MY QUALITY OF LIFE THAN A PIECE OF ART THAT I'M GOING TO GET TO WORK WHETHER IT'S THERE OR NOT. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
>> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, BOTH OF YOU. THIS IS A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION THAT IS MUCH NEEDED. I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA ABOUT CONSTRUCTION HOURS AND NOISE. I THINK ALL OF THAT IS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION, I THINK THAT IS
THE MORE APPROPRIATE ITEM I WOULD COMBINE IT WITH. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDING MECHANISMS THEREAFTER. OKAY, ITEM 6-C WAS PULLED. >> NO FURTHER FOR ME. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING 6-C SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO CONSENT BIDS AND PURCHASES OVER $100,000. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL?
>> YEAH, I'D LIKE TO PULL 7-C. >> OKAY, WHAT ABOUT YOU, VICE MAYOR? >> 7-B, PLEASE. >> MAYOR: ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED UNDER THIS SECTION? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE
THE REMAINDER. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE REMAINDER OF CONSENT BIDS AND PURCHASES, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> MAYOR: OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S ADDRESS THEM IN ORDER.
THIS IS 7-B, FOR THE RESOLUTION R 25-049 TO APPROVE A TASK ORDER FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, INCLUDING SURVEY, PERMITTING ASSISTANCE, DESIGN SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SUPPORT FOR SEA
MEADOW SOUTH, WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. GOOD EVENING. >> EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGEMENT. VICE MAYOR KELLEY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO START WITH THE ISSUE YOU HAVE
REGARDING P. >> YES. >> MAYOR: COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? >> KEITH. >> SEA MEADOW IS A NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY DISTRICT, THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE FIELDED MANY PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS
HAVING TO DO WITH OUR UTILITIES, WE TOOK OVER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND AT THE TIME DIDN'T MAKE THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS, I WANTED JUST A SUMMARY FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING
IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. >> YEAH, SO IT'S A LARGE INVESTMENT THAT UTILITIES IS MOVING FORWARD WITH. THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT IS TO DO WHAT WE CONSIDER SEA MEADOWS SOUTH, SOUTH OF CONGRESS, AT THE INTERSECTION OF CONGRESS AND LAWRENCE.
IT'S TO REPLACE ALL OF THE SEWER AND WATER UTILITIES IN SEA MEADOWS. CURRENTLY THE WATER UTILITIES INSIDE SEA MEADOWS, THERE'S NOT ADEQUATE FIRE FLOW IN THERE. MOST OF THE MAINS IN THERE ARE 2 INCH OR 4 INCH. THERE'S NOT AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT
OF FIRE HYDRANTS IN THERE, A LOT OF WATER MAINS ARE IN BETWEEN THE TRAILERS. IDEALLY, THE WATER MAINS WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE STREET. THE SEWER MAINS ARE LOCATED BETWEEN THE TRAILERS, WHICH CREATES A SERIOUS ISSUE, BECAUSE ONE, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCESS WHEN THERE'S ISSUES WITH
THEM. AS WELL AS, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO CLEANOUTS, WHETHER IT BE CLEANOUTS. THE CITY DIDN'T USED TO OWN SEA MEADOWS UTILITIES, WE TOOK THAT OVER WHEN WE TOOK IT OVER APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS AGO.
NOW, WHEN THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH THE CUSTOMER'S LATERAL, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DISTINGUISH IF THE ISSUE WITH THE SEWER IS THE CUSTOMERS OR IF IT'S THE CITIES, WITH THIS PROJECT, WE'LL BE MOVING ALL THE SEWER MAINS TO THE STREETS AND ADDING CLEANOUTS, BOTH CITY OWNED AND
CUSTOMER OWNED, IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, WE CAN DISTINGUISH WHETHER THE ISSUE IS THE CUSTOMERS OR OURS. >> THANK YOU, KEITH. YEAH, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT TO BRING THAT TO THE STREET, SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN THE UTILITY INTHAT
STRUCTURE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. >> YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, WERE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, VICE MAYOR? >> MOTION TO APPROVE 7-B. >> SECOND.
>> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO 7-C, PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 25-050, TO AWARD A TASK ORDER, AND APPROVE A BUDGET
AMENDMENT TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR CRAVEN THOMPSON & ASSOCIATES FOR THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF SOUTHSEA CREST STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $161,000.
>> RICK HOFFER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANDREW, I KNOW YOU KNOW PROBABLY BETTER THAN ANYONE IN THIS CITY, HOW LONG -- HOW MUCH OF A TIME COMING THIS PROJECT IS, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN
NEGLECTED 30 -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY NEGLECTED, BUT BEEN AN ISSUE FOR 30 YEARS, BECAUSE OF THE JURISDICTION OF SEACREST ROAD, WHICH IS A COUNTY ROAD FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC, OUR HANDS ARE TIED. SO ANDREW, CAN YOU WALK-THROUGH HOW WE GOT HERE, AND HOW THIS IS
THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST STEP OF A LONG OVERDUE ISSUE? >> SURE, WHEN I STARTED MY CAREER WITH THE CITY, ONE OF THE FIRST PRODUCTS I DID WAS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NORTH ON SEACREST FROM BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD TO THE SEA MEADOW
CANAL. THIS PROJECT IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS GOING TO MOVE SOUTH, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING CURB AND GUTTER SECTIONS, BEAUTIFICATION WITHIN MEDIANS, ACCESS CONTROL ALL ALONG THE CORRIDOR FROM BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD, THIS
PROJECT WAS PLANNED, THESE PROJECTS WERE PLANNED LIKE 20 YEARS AGO, AND WE RECENTLY -- LIKE I SAID, FINISHED THAT ONE, I THINK IT WAS IN 2010, 2011 TIME FRAME, AND NOW THIS ONE, GETTING TO THIS ONE, I THINK IS PRETTY AWESOME FOR MYSELF, THE
LAST PROJECT COMPLETED TO SEE THIS ONE, AND THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE THAT'S NEEDED, THIS CORRIDOR, WE HAVE A LOT OF SWALE EKS ISES IN THIS AREA, I THINK THE PROJECT WILL BE A LOT -- IT WILL HELP BOUGHT IF I THE AREA
AS WELL AS THAT SECTION OF THE ROAD. ONCE WE FINISH THIS, WE WILL -- THIS IS JUST FOR CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE DESIGN. WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO MAKE SURE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE PUTTING IN OR PROPOSING WITH THE COUNTY, DOESN'T IMPACT THEIR
LIVES. THE OTHER THING WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON IS, ONCE WE GET THESE PRELIMINARY DESIGNS, WE'RE GOING TO TURN THEM OVER TO THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN THEIR FIVE-YEAR WORK PLAN. THEY'LL TAKE OUR INITIAL DESIGNS AND PUT IT INTO THEIR WORK PLAN TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
>> AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? >> IT SHOULD BE IN THEIR FENCE, YES. WE'LL HAVE SOME COSTS. THE LANDSCAPING THE COUNTY WILL PAY FOR, THE BEAUTIFICATION EXPERTS WE'LL HAVE TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON THAT. THAT'S TYPICAL. THAT'S WHAT WE DID ON THE NORTH
SIDE AS WELL. >> YES, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THIS MOVING. MY COLLEAGUES JOIN ME IN THIS VENTURE, YOU MENTIONED WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THE FOREST PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'LL REACH OUT TO DOUG, I KNOW HE'S EXCITED ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
I KNOW COMMISSIONER MARCY WOODWARD WAS A BIG HELP TO GET THIS THING MOVING. SO KUDOS TO HER. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> MAYOR: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> MAYOR: ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT CONSENT BIDS AND PURCHASES. WE HAVE MOVED UP 10-C TO BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS, LET ADDRESS
10-C. CONSTRUCTION NEAR RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO KICK THAT OFF?
I SEE STAFF MOVING UP. I BELIEVE THERE IS A POWER POINT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSIONERS. IN ORDER TO HELP FACILITATE THIS DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE CITY
COMMISSION, STAFF WORKED WITH COMMISSIONER CRUZ TO PREPARE A BRIEF POWER POINT OF THE CONSTRUCTION TIMES AND SOME OF THEIR EXEMPTIONS. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COMMISSION, CITY MANAGEMENT, PAT HEART. WE DID PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF
EIGHT CITIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA, WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION TIMES AND THEIR EXEMPTIONS, OUR FIRST ONE IS OURS, WHICH IS BASED OFF OF NOISE. WE DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. ALTHOUGH, WE DO NOT ALLOW
CONSTRUCTION ON SATURDAYS -- EXCUSE ME, SUNDAYS AND MAJOR HOLIDAYS. WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS CONSTRUCTION FROM 7:00 A.M. TO 11:00 P.M. IN OUR CITY, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. SUNDAYS IS NOT ALLOWED, AND NEITHER ARE MAJOR HOLIDAYS.
THE OTHER CITIES WE HAVE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SWITCH TO THE NEXT ONE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, THEY HAVE A FEW OTHER HOURS THAT ARE A LITTLE EARLIER, AND THEY CHANGED THEIR HOURS ON THE WEEKEND BUT OURS ARE PRETTY CUT
AND DRIED WITH THEIR EXEMPTIONS. WE HAVE EXEMPTIONS ON -- FOR EARLY HOUR WORK, FOR CONCRETE POURS AND SUCH THINGS, WHICH TEND TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE, AND ALLOW THINGS TO GO FASTER.
EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES, IT'S NOT THE MOST WELL RECEIVED. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS PAGE? THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR DOING THIS RESEARCH.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO SHOWED UP AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING IN MONTERREY. THESE ARE REALLY REALLY TOUGH CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THE -- THIS DOESN'T EXPLAIN IT, IT'S JUST
THE COMPLETE OBSTRUCTION OF THE PIECE AND SLEEP AND QUIET OF MY CONSTITUENTS. SO HEARING THEIR CONCERNS AND HAVING MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, I THINK IT'S MY DUTY TO STAND UP FOR MY CONSTITUENTS
AND DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY,S BUT POTENTIALLY FUTURE PROJECTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH REGARD TO CONSTRUCTION HOURS. BUT I'LL LET YOU START YOUR PRESENTATION. >> AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE CURRENTLY
HAVE SOMEONE RANDOMLY GOING OUT ONCE A WEEK TO THE MONTERREY PROPERTY AT 6:00 A.M. UNTIL 7:00 A.M. TO LISTEN TO EARLY WORK, AS OF NOW, WE HAVE NOT CAUGHT ANYBODY OR THEM WORKING, WE'VE ALSO OBVIOUSLY I'VE TALKED TO
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAD THE MEETING WITH THEM, THEY HAVE GOTTEN WITH ME ONE TIME WHERE THEY HAD A CONCERN, WHICH WE DID ADDRESS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS OR ANY FOUND EARLY
WORK. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO LOOKING AT THE STATUTE FOR BOYNTON BEACH, AND REALLY GETTING TO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF HOW WE GOT TO HAVING CONSTRUCTION IN MY DISTRICT FROM MIDNIGHT TO 4:00 IN THE MORNING.
I WANT TO SAY THAT CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO A PEACEFUL HOME, AND I THINK THAT US APPROVING THAT CONSTRUCTION TAKES THAT AWAY FROM THEM. I THINK WE OWE A DUTY TO MAKE A CHANGE, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE HAVE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SPECIFICALLY
WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET, AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT RESEARCH. BUT THE STATUTE STATES, THESE CONSTRUCTION HOURS CAN BE CHANGED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE SUBMISSION AND APPROVAL OF A NOISE MITIGATION WAIVER
FROM THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE NOISE MITIGATION WAIVER. AND WHO GETS TO APPROVE THAT. >> SURE. JOHN KUNTZMAN, DEPARTMENT
OFFICIAL AND DIRECTOR OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE USED A WAIVER FORM, IT WAS CREATED WHEN CITY HALL WAS CONSTRUCTED. I USE THAT AS A BLUEPRINT OF CREATING A DOCUMENT, AN APPLICATION.
AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO AGREE AND ACKNOWLEDGE SEVERAL POINTS, OKAY? SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE FOR THE NOISE MITIGATION PLAN. THEY HAVE TO SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND
EXITS, LOCATE TIRE WASHOUTS, CONSTRUCTION, FENCE, SCREENING, TO REDUCE THE NOISE, AND IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED, ALSO, LOCATE THE EMPLOYEE PARKING AND VERIFY POLICE AND EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, THE CONTRACTOR ALSO HAS
TO NOTIFY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT ONE BUSINESS DAY PRIOR TO CONCRETE POURS, SCHEDULED PRIOR TO NORMAL WORK HOURS. ALL TRUCKS ARE TO DISABLE THE AUDIBLE BACKUP ALARMS AND STATE
THEY'RE GOING TO USE A WHITE NOISE BACKUP ALARM. FLAG MEN, ANY TIME THE BACKUP ALARMS ARE DISABLED, AND THAT COMPLIES WITH THE OSHA
REQUIREMENT, WHEN A BACKUP ALARM IS NOT AVAILABLE, A FLAG MAN NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE, PER OSHA. ALSO, THEY'RE NOT TO USE HORNS, MEGA PHONES OR LOUD SPEAKER SYSTEMS, ANY SITE LIGHTING IS TO
BE TURNED INBOARD AND DOWN SO THERE IS NO FLOOD OF LIGHTING INTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND THE CONTRACTOR WILL KEEP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AVAILABLE
THROUGHOUT THE SITE. THIS PROJECT, THE CONTRACTOR ALSO PROVIDED PD ON SITE WHILE THEY'RE DOING POURS, SO THEY MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE FOR THESE REQUIREMENTS.
WE USED THE SAME WAIVER WHEN RIVER WALK WAS CONSTRUCTED. THE CONTRACTORS ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A COMPLAINT LINE THAT'S MANNED ANY TIME,
WORKING HOURS, DURING THE MORNING HOURS WHILE THEY'RE POURING CONCRETE. WE KEEP TABS ON THAT, THIS
CONTRACTOR ALSO HAS VIBRATION SENSORS PLACED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. I'VE BEEN GIVEN SOME OF THOSE REPORTS. THE ONLY TIME THEY'VE HAD HIGH
READINGS, IS WHEN THEY USE THE ROLLERS. THEY STOPPED USING THOSE ROLLERS, BECAUSE OF THE -- THEY GOT TWO COMPLAINTS THAT DAY. AND THEY'VE BEEN -- THEY ONLY USED THE ROLLERS FOR COMPACTION OF DRIVE WAYS AND PARKING AREAS,
THEY DO DENSITY TESTS EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO USE THE VIBRATION ON THE ROLLERS. OTHERWISE, THEY JUST USE THE STATIC. >> MAYOR: CAN I JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE USING VIBRATION. THE SENSORS YOU MENTIONED, WHO
OWNS THEM? >> THEY ARE OWNED BY A SUBCONTRACTOR. THEY DO NOT OWN THOSE VIBRATION SENSORS. >> MAYOR: GOT IT, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE SENSORS WORK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION? >> YES. THEY'RE INDEPENDENT AND THEY'RE
SUBCONTRACTORS. THEY PROVIDE THEM WILL >> MAYOR: PERSONALLY, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THE SENSORS ARE OWNED BY THE CITY, IF SOMEONE SAYS THERE'S NO ISSUE, WE'RE NOT GET-- WE'RE
GETTING IT FROM OUR OWN INFORMATION NOT A THIRD PARTY. I WOULD TRUST THAT A LOT MORE, KNOWING IT'S NOT SOMEONE PAID BY THE PERSON DOING ALL THE SHAKING. THAT WAS AN INITIAL THOUGHT, PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR COMMENTS. >> I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, MAYOR.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD PUT IT IN THE CITY'S HANDS TO -- IT WOULD BE MORE WORK LOAD FOR PUBLIC WORKS, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE CITY CHOOSING THE CONVENIENTER -- >> MAYOR: THAT WOULD WORK. >> AS A WAY TO MITIGATE ANY
BIAS. AND THEN -- DID YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP GOING? DID YOU WANT TO GO? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. >> DID YOU WANT TO FOLLOW-UP? OTHERWISE, I'LL MAKE MY OTHER COMMENTS. >> THE PURPOSE FOR BRINGING THIS UP, WAS REALLY TO PROVIDE RELIEF
TO NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS -- OBVIOUSLY, THE RESIDENTS OF MONTERREY, BUT IN THE FUTURE AS WE BUILD MORE. ANY RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN A CERTAIN FEET OF RESIDENTIAL AREA. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR ANY
RESIDENT TO BE AWAKE FROM THE HOURS OF MIDNIGHT TO 4:00 IN THE MORNING. UNFORTUNATELY, NOT TO -- I'M TRYING TO BE KIND BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WASN'T REALLY INFORMED ABOUT THESE CHANGES HAPPENING IN MY OWN DISTRICT BEFORE THEY HAPPENED.
THERE WAS DISAPPOINTMENT ON THE SIDE OF MY CONSTITUENTS, CONCERNS ON MY END BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE, AND I STARTED GETTING VIDEOS AT 1:30 IN THE MORNING WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING. SO THE POINT BEING THAT WITH THAT IS, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE
THE EXEMPTION OF ANY CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING, ANY TIME AFTER THE DESIGNATED HOURS, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHERE THE BUILDING TO BUILDING DISTANCE IS
ABOUT -- AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY COME BACK TO FIGURE OUT THAT NUMBER. BUT THAT'S THE GOAL OF TODAY, IT'S REALLY TO FIGURE OUT NOT FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ADJACENT
TO EACH OTHER, THE PROPERTY LINE SPACE IS GOING TO BE ZERO. REALLY FIGURING OUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE OUR RESIDENTS LIVE AND SLEEP, TO WHERE THE ACTUAL BUILDING STARTS
FOR WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE BUILDING, ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. >> YES, IF I CAN JUST ADD, SO I THINK THROUGH EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROJECT, IT BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT A COUPLE ISSUES, I
WOULD SAY WE HAD A LOT OF CONCRETE POURS THAT HAPPENED, JUST TO PUT IT IN THE PERSPECTIVE -- THIS IS A HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE, THE SLABS ARE SUBSTANTIAL. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING NUMBER OF FOOTBALL FIELDS LONG, VERY COMPLICATED, 100 PLUS CEMENT
TRUCKS FOR EVERY SINGLE POUR. THAT WE WERE TRYING TO REMOVE FROM PEAK HOUR ON CONGRESS AVENUE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED, THE CLOSER THE WORK TOOK PLACE, THE MORE FREQUENT THE COMPLAINTS. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF POURS THAT OCCURRED A SUBSTANTIAL
DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE WHERE MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS OCCURRING. SO I THINK IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, LIKE COMMISSIONER CRUZ SAID, WHERE THE WORK, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE,
WITHIN X FEET TO X FEET, NO WORK CAN TAKE PLACE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ACHIEVE. >> THERE'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WITH THAT. THE REASON THESE CONCRETE POURS TAKE PLACE AT THE HOURS THEY DO
IS THE IMPACT OF THE NUMBER OF CONCRETE TRUCKS THAT ARE LINED UP. IN THIS CASE HERE, THERE WERE PROBABLY 100 CONCRETE TRUCKS THAT WERE LINED UP -- THAT HAD TO BE THERE FOR ONE POUR, OKAY?
AND THAT LINE OF CONCRETE TRUCKS, NOT ONLY WOULD BE ON SITE, BUT ALSO ON CONGRESS AVENUE MUCH YOU SHIFT THAT TO THE DAYTIME HOURS, AND THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A HUGE TRAFFIC JAM. ALSO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT POURING CONCRETE AT
THAT TIME, IS THAT THE CONCRETE -- THE CURE TIME IS SLOWER, SO THAT MUCH CONCRETE THAT THEY POUR, THEY NEED A LONGER TIME TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN
IT AND SMOOTH IT OUT. SO THE CONCRETE CURES PROPERLY. AND THERE'S NO BIG HUNKS OR DIVOTS OR ANYTHING, IN THE FINISHED SLAB. AND HAVING IMPERFECTIONS IN YOUR
SLAB WITH TILT WALL CONSTRUCTION CAN CAUSE A HUGE IMPACT ON WHETHER THAT WALL IS GOING TO GO UP PLUMB AND STRAIGHT, OR POSSIBLY CAUSE AN ACCIDENT TO HAPPEN.
BECAUSE NOTHING IS PLUMB AND SQUARE. SO THEM POURING CONCRETE AT THAT TIME IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CURING TIME, BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT CONCRETE. IF THEY DO IT IN THE DAYTIME, THEN THAT CONCRETE WILL CURE A LOT QUICKER, AND IT'S GOING TO
BE A MUCH SLOWER PROCESS, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT IN SMALLER BATCHES, AND THAT IS IS NOT VERY COST EFFECTIVE, AND IT -- IT CAN ALSO CAUSE PROBLEMS. >> AND I THANK YOU. THANK YOU NOR -- I KNOW YOU GUYS
MEANT WELL BY IT, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT PAY MORTGAGE, PAY TAXES, HAVE CHILDREN, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, AND THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTS AND WE'RE HERE, AND IT'S -- I THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO REPRESENT THEM
AND THEIR INTERESTS, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT, AND THE BUSINESS INTEREST OF IT. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE CREATING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET. IT'S NOT JUST FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION, IT'S FOR CONSTRUCTION WITHIN X NUMBER OF
FEET FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING. SO THERE ISN'T THAT HOUR. NO CONSTRUCTION BEING DONE AT ANY TIME AFTER THE HOURS THAT WE ARE SETTING FORWARD WITH THIS ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR: I DEFINITELY SUPPORT CHANGING THE HOURS FOR THE NOISE ORDINANCE, BUT I ALSO SUPPORT ADDING THE RESTRICTION ON THE DISTANCE. IF YOU CAN POUR CONCRETE AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO POUR IT NEXT TO THE RESIDENCE. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES ARE WAITING. >> SORRY, LAST POINT. >> MAYOR: VERY BRIEFLY, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK. >> HERE'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING, OUR CURRENT HOURS ARE 7:00 A.M. TO 11:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS
8:00 A.M. TO 8:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND 9:00 A.M. TO 8:00 P.M., ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE, NOT ANY
OTHER BUILDING WHERE IT'S JUST ALL COMMERCIAL AROUND. >> MAYOR: CAN WE REPEAT THAT? >> MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00 A.M. TO 8:P.M. AND SATURDAY 9:00 A.M. TOO 8:00
P.M., GIVING PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANCE TO SLEEP LATER. AND NO SUNDAY. THIS SPECIFIC PART OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO ANY CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING.
WHEN WE HAVE ADJACENT BUILDINGS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY. >> I SUPPORT COMMISSIONER CRUZ 110%. QUALITY OF LIFE IS MORE
IMPORTANT TO ME THAN REACHING A MILESTONE IN TIME TO GET A PROJECT COMPLETED. AND THOSE ARE THE EXACT TIMES I HAD IN MIND FROM 8:00 TO 8:00. SO YOU MUST PEAKED AT MY CARD.
FROM 9:00 TO 8:00 ON A SATURDAY, AND NO SUNDAYS. I REALLY SUPPORT THAT AND ALSO, LOOKING AT THE DISTANCE, I'M SURE YOU GUYS CAN WORK THAT OUT. STAFF WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE REALLY NEED TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. I GET COMPLAINTS ALSO, PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS DO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH CONSTRUCTION OVER IN DISTRICT 2. BY THE SAME TOKEN, IT MUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT
AND CORRECT. SOONER THAN BETTER. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S -- YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS COMING OUT HERE, COMPLAINING TO US ABOUT THAT. WE NEED TO REALLY ADDRESS IT.
SO I'M -- MY HEART IS WITH YOU. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER TURKIN? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I CAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT, LOOKING AT WHAT DORAL DOES, I THINK IS WHERE YOU GETTING AT, YOU SEPARATE THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT FROM THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S ADJACENT TO A PROPERTY THAT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? EXPANDING THOSE HOURS. I WOULD SAY, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THE EXEMPTION OF EMERGENCY MATTERS, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A PIPE TO BUST IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE NIGHT, AND WE CAN'T TRIAGE THAT SITUATION. SO I THINK WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT LANGUAGE FOR UTILITIES, THOSE TYPE OF URGENT THINGS, WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THAT WAS
TRIAGED THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE ONE OFF SITUATIONS, RESIDENTS CARE ABOUT. AND COMMISSIONER CRUZ, YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING THAT WAS APPROVED. I GOT THE BIG TOWERS THAT WAS
APPROVED, RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE, LOIS MANGO, THAT COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE LIVE LOCAL PROPERTY THAT WAS BYPASSED, ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. RIGHT? SO THEN YOU LOOK AT OCEAN AVENUE, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF
SMALLER DUPLEXES, SMALLER TWO STORY CONDOMINIUMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO ALL OF THIS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET AHEAD OF THIS NOW, IT'S LIKE THE OLD EXPRESSION, THERE'S ALWAYS SUNSHINE AFTER RAIN. THERE'S ALWAYS RAIN.
I THINK IT'S SUNSHINE AS FAR AS RESOLUTION, AND THE RESIDENTS OF LAKE MONTERREY, THIS SITUATION HAPPENED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD TO COME FOR A RESOLUTION, BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO -- ENABLE POLICY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO, ENABLE POLICY, LEARN
FROM THE PAST, SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A BETTER FUTURE. I TOTALLY SUPPORT YOU COMMISSIONER CRUZ. THIS IS NOT JUST A DISTRICT ONE ISSUE, THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE. I WOULD ASK THAT WE INCORPORATE
THOSE EMERGENCY MATTERS FOR ANY POTENTIAL UTILITY OUTLAWS, THINGS LIKE THAT. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. VICE MAYOR, GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK AT ALL, SO THANK YOU. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC, SO
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CRUZ FOR BRINGING THIS UP. MY TIMING WAS EVEN SHORTER, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AND THINKING, AS A PARENT AND HAVING CHILDREN AND HAVING LIVED THROUGH LITTLE CHILDREN.
BATH TIMES, DINNERTIMES, BEDTIMES. IN MY MIND, AND ON THE WEEKENDS, MY SATURDAYS AND NAPTIMES AND ALL THAT, I EVEN MORE SO WAS LOOKING AT DORAL'S TIMES ALMOST EXACTLY.
THEY HAVE SATURDAY LIKE 10:00 A.M. TO 4:00 P.M., WHERE -- I MEAN, THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A QUIET DINNERTIME AS OPPOSED TO CHAOS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOME. SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF US
ESTABLISHING CONSTRUCTION TIMES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT LIKE COMMISSIONER CRUZ HAS SAID, AND COMMISSIONER TURKIN, WE'RE COMING INTO HAVING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING IN THE CITY. I KNOW THIS HAPPENED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY WITH PUBLIX. ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK WE HAD AS
MANY ISSUES AND COMPLAINTS. IT'S STILL IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, SO I AM IN FAVOR OF CONSTRUCTION TIMES. MINE WERE A LITTLE STRICTER THAN WHAT'S BEEN THROWN OUT, SO I'LL SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT,
BUT I MEAN, IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD GO A LITTLE MORE STRICT, JUST TO KIND OF LEAVE SOME ACTUALLY AT HOME, QUIET TIME IN THE EVENINGS. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CENTS ON
THAT, SO -- AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BIG UP DORAL. COMMISSIONER CRUZ, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION, MORE STRICT. >> I AM COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
>> MAYOR: THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED IN DORAL. >> YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO, ESPECIALLY MOVING THE HOURS UP, SPECIFICALLY IN THE MORNING IS A GREAT IDEA AND EARLIER IN THE EVENING. MONTERREY, I KNOW THEY -- WE
WANT TO BE DONE WITH THIS, RIGHT? SO I WOULD SAY -- I MEAN, I WISH I COULD HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT AND HEAR BACK, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OPEN IT UP, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH, BUT I WANT TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM
THE COMMUNITY. >> MAYOR: IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD SUPPORT THAT, TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING A DISCUSSION. >> A THOUGHT PROCESS ALONG THOSE LINES. IF THERE'S DISCRETION FROM THE
BOARD -- EXCUSE ME, NOT DISCRETION, DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD, WE COULD CERTAINLY COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT WHICH THEN ALLOWS FOR THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IF THEY AGREE WITH THOSE TIMES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. WE HAVE A MORE -- IT'S VERY WIDE
RIGHT NOW. WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEARING, KIND OF MODELLING THE CITY OF DORAL, COMING UP WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, BRINGING IT HERE AND DOING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, OR WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IT NOW
TOO. BUT THAT WAS JUST -- >> MAYOR: AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE MAJORITY. THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR THAT. >> I DON'T MIND OPENING IT BACK UP. I'M OKAY WITH THAT, I'M OKAY TO
ADOPT SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE TO TACKLE THIS IN THE FUTURE. QUICK QUESTION BACK TO THE HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION. THESE ARE BASED ON THE CURRENT NOISE ORDINANCE. DO THESE OTHER CITIES THAT WE COMPARE TO, DO THEY HAVE A
SEPARATE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE HOURS OF ALLOWED CONSTRUCTION? DO WE KNOW? >> YEAH. >> AND WE'RE JUST GOING OFF ONE NOISE -- WOW! REALLY? >> THAT'S INTERESTING. I KIND OF WANT TO LOOK AT THE
NOISE ORDINANCE TOO. I'VE GOTTEN SOME COMPLAINTS. WE CAN SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER TIME. >> IT'S PART OF -- >> THESE AREN'T EVEN -- THERE'S NO IDENTIFICATION FOR CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS JUST OFF THE NOISE ORDINANCE. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S NO ONE'S -- WE'VE BEEN
AROUND FOR OVER 100 YEARS, THAT'S NO ONE'S FAULT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. >> MAYOR: WE NEED TO ESTABLISH -- >> WE HAVE A CITYWIDE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND THERE'S A
SPECIFIC SECTION THAT ADDRESSES CONSTRUCTION. >> OKAY. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE 11:00 P.M. DURING THE WEEK IS A LITTLE BIT LATE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> YES.
>> 11:00 P.M.? MAN, YOU GUYS GAVE ME A HARD TIME WHEN I WAS CUTTING WOOD ON A WEEKDAY AT 6:00 P.M. >> WE HAVE A DECIBEL STANDARD, THERE ARE MAXIMUM ALLOWED STANDARDS.
>> I THINK IT HAS TO BE GETTING A READING OF 65 DECIBELS WITHIN 25 FEET. >> YEAH. THAT'S GOT TO BE ENFORCED, THOUGH. THAT HAS TO BE ENFORCED. >> IF IT'S AFTER HOURS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL RESPOND OUT THERE, AND GET A READING AND DO A POLICE REPORT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
>> WE DO ENFORCE THE NOISE ORDER NANCE. I KNOW WE GOT A -- OVER THE YEARS, WE GOT A COUPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT LIVE MUSIC AT DIFFERENT BARS AND VENUES AROUND THE CITY. SO --
>> MAYOR: GO AHEAD, FINISH. >> OH, PERFECT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BIG THIS UP, I'D LIKE, IF IT'S OKAY WITH MY COLLEAGUES, LOOK AT MAYBE RESTRICTING THE NOISE ORDINANCE THROUGH THE WEEKDAYS TOO, HERE'S THE THING WITH ENFORCEMENT, AS A COMMISSION, RIGHT?
AND THIS GOES WITH PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER. IF WE DON'T HAVE UPDATED POLICIES, WE CAN'T GET -- WHEN OUR RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED, WE CAN'T GET UPSET WITH STAFF FOR DOING THEIR JOB OR NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
IT'S OUR DUTY AS A COMMISSION TO UPDATE ORDINANCES, OR REPEAL ORDINANCES OR UPDATE OUR CODE. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS LOOK AT A COMPLETE CODE OVERHAUL ALL AROUND. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF WE NEED TO ELIMINATE, A LOT OF STUFF
THAT'S OUTDATED, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR REPLACING A FENCE, WE WENT FROM 1,000 TO 2,000, DUE TO THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. I THINK WE NEED TO DO A COMPLETE CODE OVERHAUL. MAYBE WE CAN ADD THAT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. MAYBE THAT'S A FEW WORKSHOPS.
>> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TURKIN. LET ME TURN TO COUNCIL AND ASK THE QUESTION, SINCE I'M HEARING THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS ARE INSIDE THE NOISE ORDINANCE. WOULD YOU ADVISE WE CREATE A SEPARATE ORDINANCE SOLELY FOR NOISE AND THEN SEPARATE?
WE ALREADY HAD ONE FOR NOISE, BUT ONE SOLELY FOR CONSTRUCTION HOURS OR DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IT BEING EMBEDDED OR DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE IT IS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT COMMISSIONER TURKIN
HAS POINTED OUT. OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT? IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETIMES THEY'VE RANDOMLY PUT THINGS HERE AND HERE, AND THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME SECTION. WE'VE ACTUALLY, WE'VE DISCUSSED DOING A WHOLE ORDINANCE
OVERHAUL, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTRACTED OUT, I CAN TELL YOU, WE EVEN RAN SOME OF THOSE PRELIMINARY PRICES, IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE IT IS, AND THEN DETERMINE
IF IT SHOULD STILL STAY IN THE NOISE ORDINANCE OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE SEPARATED OUT. AND MAYBE PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND WITHOUT LOOKING RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> MAYOR: GOT IT, NEXT MEETING HOPEFULLY, OR THE MEETING
THEREAFTER, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BRING BACK A DRAFT FOR US? >> THE NEXT MEETING IS THE MARCH 18th MEETING. AND WITH POTENTIALLY -- DEPENDING ON HOW THE ELECTION GOES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE POTENTIALLY NEW PEOPLE ON THE DAIS WHO ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE
THE BENEFIT OF AN AGENDA REVIEW. AND SO I REALLY THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO AT THE SECOND MEETING. FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN APRIL. >> MAYOR: GOT IT, THAT'S FAIR. SOUNDS GOOD. I AGREE WITH UPDATING THE
CONSTRUCTION HOURS, YOU LET US KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A STAND ALONE ORDINANCE OR NOT. I AGREE WITH WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SAID, BRING BACK THE NOISE ORDINANCE SO WE CAN DISCUSS THE HOURS FOR THAT AS WELL. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER HAY.
>> DID WE HAPPEN TO MEASURE THE DECIBEL AT THIS PARTICULAR CASE IN DISTRICT 1 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> HAVE WE DONE ANY NOISE MEASUREMENTS OUT THERE? >> WE HAVE DURING THE DAY. IT'S FALLING WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE NOISE.
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WORKS IS, WE MEASURE 25 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN IT HAS TO BE 20% OF THE TIME, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GO OUT THERE, MEASURE THE AMBIENT NOISE, WHICH IS THE NOISE, BIRDS CHIRPING SO
ON AND SO FORTH. WE MEASURE FOR TEN MINUTES, AND OUT OF THOSE 10 MINUTES, TWO OF THOSE MINUTES HAVE TO ACCUMULATE BEING OVER THE TIME. >> DID I HEAR YOU SAY THEY WERE
WITHIN? >> YEAH, THEY HAVE BEEN WITHIN, YES, WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE STARTING EARLY AND THE AFTER HOURS IS WHAT'S -- >> THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD GO ALONG WITH HEARING FROM THE
RESIDENTS AS A LITTLE WRAP-UP TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. GO AHEAD >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR? >> MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE A
PUBLIC -- WE'VE ALREADY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND RESIDENTS SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. I WOULDN'T WANT TO ALLOW THE SAME PEOPLE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE SAME ITEM THEY PREVIOUSLY SPOKE ABOUT. BECAUSE THEN WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT -- I JUST -- I
THINK THAT WE'RE ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON THAT. >> OKAY. >> I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. I THINK IF WE'RE COMING BACK WITH A NEW ORDINANCE, WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT, COMMISSIONER CRUZ WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE RESIDENTS, WE CAN SPEAK TO THOSE RESIDENTS SEPARATELY. AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN TALK TO STAFF ABOUT, STAFF CAN MEET WITH THEM AGAIN I'M SURE. I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD BE GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY ROAD IF WE ALLOW
PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. >> MAYOR: COMMISSIONER HAY, THANK YOU. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VICE MAYOR IS SAYING. I WANT TO SEE WHAT END OF THE SPECTRUM IS THE MOST PROBLEM, SO
IT WOULD HELP AND THE EVALUATION OVERALL, SINCE THEY'RE HERE. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEIR TAKE IS AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M ASKING TO PUT IN PRACTICE, BUT WE AS A
COMMISSION CAN MAKE EXEMPTIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE COMMENTS AFTER THE FACT. >> MAYOR: LISTEN, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD HAS SPOKEN, THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS. COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> I WANT TO HEAR FROM MY
CONSTITUENTS, THEY ARE HERE. WE ARE IN THE FIRST READING. UNFORTUNATELY NEXT TIME WHEN WE GET HERE. >> THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM. AND I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS TO DO AN ORDINANCE, AND THEN BRING THAT BACK, WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> FIRST AND SECOND. >> OKAY. THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER -- IF THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT WANTS TO DESIGNATE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY REDUCE PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM. OR YOU COULD DO IT NORMALLY LIKE
YOU NORMALLY WOULD. >> I THINK IT'S ONLY LIKE TWO PEOPLE, IF WE COULD ALLOW. >> MAYOR: OKAY, THIS IS NO ARGUMENT HERE, THE MAJORITY HAS ALREADY SPOKEN, RIGHT? THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD DECIDES. NOW, LET ME TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF ANY OF THE RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY INPUT
BASED ON THE DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION YOU'VE NOW HEARD AND SEEN. COME UP ONE SECOND.ALL RIGHT, BEGIN WHEE READY. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BETH SANDSON, AND I
LIVE AT MONTEREY. I DO WANT TO JUST GIVE ADDITIONAL COMMENT. I KNOW THAT THIS IS DISCUSSION AROUND THE ACTUAL NOISE. I WORK OUT OF MY HOUSE, AND MOST OF THE TIME I CAN IGNORE WHAT I
HEAR, BUT MOST RECENTLY THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON WHEN THERE WAS VERY LOUD POUNDING TO THE POINT IT WAS A SATURDAY. I COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. I LITERALLY WALKED OVER TO THE CONSTRUCTION TRAILER, KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, WAITED AND NOBODY CAME. SAW SOMEBODY COMING IN ON A
TRUCK AND ASKED HIM TO PLEASE SEND SOMEBODY OVER TO TALK TO ME ABOUT COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION. TO MINIMIZE THAT SOUND. IT WAS SO LOUD, AND I'M SURE IT
WASN'T A DAY YOUR TEAM WAS THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WAY OVER 60-DECIBELS. THEY DO HAVE SOME PIECES OF CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY'RE DOING INTERMITTENT THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE BUILD THAT DEFINITELY
OVEREXCEEDS THE DECIBEL LIMIT. IT IS NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. THAT'S ALL. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE I LEAVE? GREAT.
>> Mayor: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT PERSON. >> AMELIA 165 LAKE MONTEREY CIRCLE. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR EIGHT MONTHS. EIGHT MONTHS. WE'RE ASKING FOR HELP VERY MUCH
SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. IT'S RIDICULOUS. THE DECIBELS, AND IT IS THE HOURS. IT IS BOTH. YES, WE DO NEED AN ORDINANCE OVERHAUL ON BOTH THE DECIBEL AND
THE HOURS. IT'S RIDICULOUS. WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF RELIEF, AND WE NEED IT NOW. NOT TOMORROW. NOT A WEEK FROM NOW. NOT IN THREE MONTHS OR TWO MEETINGS. WHATEVER IT MAY BE. WE NEED IT NOW. WE'RE LIVING THROUGH HELL.
IT IS HORRIBLE. IT'S ATROCIOUS. NEIGHBORS ARE LOOKING OUTSIDE OF BOYNTON BEACH TO GET OUT. THEY NO LONGER WANT TO LIVE IN BOYNTON BEACH. MY MONEY, AS A YOUNG ADULT, IS
TIED UP IN MY HOME. I DON'T HAVE OPTIONS. SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS DON'T HAVE OPTIONS. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. I NEED HELP. >> Mayor: THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION TO STAFF, RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO MODEL IT AFTER DARYL WITH THE HOURS THAT SEPARATES RESIDENTIAL FROM ARE BUSINESS, FROM WEEKDAY TO WEEKENDS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLARITY ON THAT FROM STAFF. WE'RE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ALSO ABOUT INCLUDING SOME DISTANCE AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT? ADAM, DID YOU HAVE ENOUGH CLARITY FOR THAT? >> I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER CRUZ WAS REQUESTING, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, UNDER THE
EXEMPTION, TO ALLOW WORK WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE BETWEEN PROPERTIES. >> YES, YES, THANK YOU, ADAM. THE PURPOSE IS REALLY TO PREVENT ANY CONSTRUCTION FROM HAPPENING AFTER THE DESIGNATED HOURS AND
REMOVING ALL EXEMPTIONS, UNLESS THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, BUT NOT ALLOWING AT ANY POINT, ANY CONSTRUCTION TO HAPPEN, AFTER 8:00 P.M.
AND REMOVING THE EXEMPTION. >> SO THE DIRECTION IS TO REMOVE THE EXEMPTION ENTIRELY SO WE DON'T HAVE -- SO THAT OUR STAFF
DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO AUTHORIZE CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE THE ALLOWABLE HOURS. >> CORRECT. THANKS. >> OKAY. I WOULD JUST OFFER THAT COULD BE CHALLENGING IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
>> Mayor: SO THIS IS A DRAFT, RIGHT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK A DRAFT. WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE ALL THE IMPLICATIONS AND THE MEANING OF IT. I SEE SOME HESITATION THERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. IT'S A DRAFT, BUT WE'RE TAKING THE STEPS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. >> ONLY WHERE WE ARE ADJACENT TO
A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE THE BUILDING TO BUILDING DISTANCE IS WITHIN X NUMBER OF FEET. IT COULD BE 100, 400, WHATEVER NUMBER WE DETERMINE BASED ON THE SITUATION AND THE SITUATIONS WE
FOFORESEE IN THE FUTURE. IT'S SPECIFIC. NOT FOR MY OTHER CONSTRUCTION. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT -- WE NEED TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS, IF THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO APPROVE SOMETHING, WE CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? I WANT TO SEE ONLY OPTIONS.
I WANT TO LOOK AT EVERY SCENARIO, BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS ANY LITIGATION OR ANYTHING CHALLENGING THE FUTURE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR PRIMARY SOURCE IS OUR RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO
GUTTER CLOG CONSTRUCTION IN A NON-RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE THIS MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT A FEW OPTIONS. LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION IN A SCENARIO THAT
DOESN'T AFFECT PEOPLE, BECAUSE -- >> Mayor: THANK YOU. MY UNDERSTANDING SHE'S REFERRING TO RESIDENTIAL. >> I THINK WE'RE MAKING THIS LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. THE POINT IS, RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO WHERE THERE'S A ZERO SPACE BETWEEN PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.
AND LOOKING AT THE DISPANS -- DISTANCE FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING TO BE X NUMBER OF FEET, ONLY WITHIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT INDUSTRIAL. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT ANY OTHER TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO
A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND SPECIFIC TO A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF FEET FROM WI BUILDING TO BUILDING. AND I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY EXEMPTION, AND THAT IS THE INTENT OF THIS LAW TO MAKE IT FIRM. TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS
SPECIFICALLY. TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP IN THEIR HOMES. THIS IS SUCH A SMALL COPE THAT'S IT'S RELATED FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING AND ADAM WILL BE ABLE TO TELL US WHAT NUMBER OF FEET
STAFF COMES UP WITH. >> Mayor: THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. WE HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION TO STAFF AND LEGAL. WE'RE READY TO PROCEED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM 8A. THIS IS PROPOSED ORDINANCE
NO. 25-001. IT IS A SECOND READING. >> ANYONE THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 8A.
>> IT IS QUASI, SO WE NEED SWEARING IN AND DISCLOSURES. >> SO PLEASE STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT. >> Mayor: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. LET'S BEGIN WITH DISCLOSURES. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD.
>> AS TO THIS MATTER, SINCE THE PREVIOUS MEETING, I HAVE NOT HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMUNICATION THAT IS I HAVE SEEN AT THIS POINT. I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT. I'VE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT
OPINIONS. I REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES AND WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS BE PART OF THE RECORD. AS TO THIS MATTER, I HAVE NOT HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION.
I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT. AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT OPINIONS. I REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES AND WRITTEN COMMUNICATION BE PART OF THE RECORD. THANK YOU. >> Mayor: CAN I BORROW THAT SHEET? REGARDING ITEM 8A. I HAVE NOT HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
I HAVE NOT HAD WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT OPINIONS ON THIS MATTER OUTSIDE OF CITY STAFF. I REQUEST THAT THESE DISCLOSURES AND ALL WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD. >> PERTAINING TO THIS MATTER,
8A, I HAVE NOT HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMUNICATION. I HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. I HAVE NOT MADE A SITE VISIT. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXPERT OPINION, EXCEPT FROM STAFF, REQUEST THAT HAVE TO BE JUST
MULTI-FAMILY AFFORDABILITY. YOU COULD DEVELOP A PROGRAM FOR FOR -- SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERS AND MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE TO ADDRESS THAT. IF THERE'S A PERCENTAGE REDUCTION, IT'S A NUMBER THAT YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IN
TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD. THIS LAST HEARING WE DID HAVE A FIRST READING. THIS IS A SECOND READING. IF YOU ALL WERE TO MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING TO ADOPT THIS, THE FEE WOULD GO EFFECT 90 DAYS FROM TODAY, AND I BELIEVE IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE WE PUT
MAY 2ND. >> I BELIEVE IT'S MAY 25TH. >> OKAY. AND THEN THAT TIME FRAME, WHICH IS ROUGHLY A THREE-MONTH TIME FRAME, WOULD ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO REACH OUT TO PALM BEACH COUNTY
TO START NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM. THIS IS A RECENT BILL THAT WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE. JUST WENT INTO EFFECT THIS PAST OCTOBER. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT NOW IN PALM BEACH COUNTY GOING THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING YOU ALL ARE THIS EVENING, AND THEY WILL BE
GOING FORWARD WITH THEIR ORDINANCES AND THEIR PLAN AMENDMENTS, AND THEY'LL BE HAVING THEIR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY. I WILL SAY WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THIS DATA, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE TIME FRAMES WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON,
AND THESE ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY AND MOBILITY OF SHARE WHAT PROJECTS GETS SPENT IN CITIES, THESE ISSUES STARTED BEING RAISED BACK IN 2015 IN THE CITY OF WEST PALM BEACH. THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF HEARINGS BY GEORGE WEBB IN FRONT
OF THE, HE WAS A FORMER COUNTY ENGINEER, IN FRONT OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY TPA IN 2016 AND 2018 AND 2019. THE COUNTY HAS BEEN IN LITIGATION WITH PALM BEACH GARDENS FOR OVER FIVE YEARS NOW ON THIS VERY ISSUE. WHEN THEY SAY THERE'S SOME
COMMENTARY FROM THE COUNTY. IT'S GOING TO COME UP FOR YOU ALL AND ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN THE CITY. DON'T RUSH. DON'T DO THIS. WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING. WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING. THE COUNTY'S HAD ROUGHLY TEN YEARS TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM, AND IT'S NOT A NEW PROBLEM.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY MAJOR MUNICIPALITY IN THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN ADDRESSING OR ASKING TO BE ADDRESSED OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND AN OBLIGATION PER FLORIDA STATUTE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, BUT YOU'LL BE NEGOTIATING BASED
ON YOUR PLAN BECAUSE THE COUNTY HASN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS YET TO ADOPT ITS OWN PLAN. SO REALLY THE NEED AND DOCUMENTATION AND ANALYSIS IS BASED ON THE PLAN FOR THE CITY
OF BOYNTON BEACH. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD. >> Mayor: THANK YOU, JONATHAN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM FROM MY COLLEAGUES? WITH THAT WE'LL TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. AS ALWAYS, YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES, AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. LET ME SWITCH THE TIMER. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYORS, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. [INDISTINCT] PLANNING DIVISION 2300 NORTH -- WEST PALM BEACH.
BEFORE I DO MY PRESENTATION, IF I CAN REQUEST A MOTION TO RECEIVE FILE COUNTIES -- FEBRUARY 14TH, WHICH YOU GUYS ALL RECEIVED FROM COUNTY'S ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE. >> Mayor: IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISTRIBUTE GIVE IT TO THE CITY
CLERK AND SHE'D MAKE THAT. >> THE COUNTY HAS SUBMITTED WRITTEN LETTERS OBJECTING TO ANY ATTEMPT BY THE CITY TO APPEAL AND REPLACE PALM BEACH COUNTY'S TRAFFIC -- [INDISTINCT] ZONE IMPACT FEE AND --
THESE LETTERS HAVE BEEN COORDINATED WITH COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE COUNTY STRONGLY BELIEVES SUCH AN ATTEMPT TO REPEAL THESE COUNTIES LAWS WOULD BE UNLAWFUL AS MUNICIPALITY CANNOT
UNILATERALLY REPEAL THESE LAWS FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND FLORIDA STATUTES AND THE COUNTY'S CHARTER. SHOULD THE CITY ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE TODAY?
THE COUNTY INTENDS TO PURSUE ALO THE CHARTER AND SECTION 63, 3180 FLORIDA STATUTES. THE STATUTE PROVIDES THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY MUST ENTER
INTO LOCAL AGREEMENT TO COORDINATE THE MITIGATION OF THEIR PERSPECTIVE IMPACTS. IN THE NEAR FUTURE COUNTY WILL BE PROVIDING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
COUNTY IS NOT OPPOSED TO CITY'S MOBILITY FEE AND MOBILITY PLAN IF AND ONLY IF IT IS NOT CONTRARY TO COUNTY'S IMPACT FEE AND PERFORMANCE ORDINANCE.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE COUNTY'S OBJECTION. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ITEM? >> SUSAN, BOYNTON BEACH. FOR THE RESIDENTS WE'RE ALL FOR THIS BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR CHANCE
TO, ONE, GET AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE FOR THESE UNGODLY, HIGH BUILDINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT, DON'T NEED AND WE NEED ANOTHER WAY TO HINDER THEM. AND SO I SAY, Q Q QUADRUPLE THE
RATES FOR SINGLE FAMILY. WE WANT GOOD BUILDING IN OUR CITY. WE DON'T WANT BAD BUILDINGS BEING BUILT. LET'S ENCOURAGE HAVING GOOD-QUALITY CONSTRUCTION IN OUR CITY. NOT THE STUFF WE DON'T NEED. SO, COMMISSIONER TURKIN, PLEASE MAKE THAT MOTION.
CALL IT THE SUSAN AMENDMENT. FOUR TIMES UP, PLEASE. I ALSO THINK THAT THIS MOBILITY STUDY STILL INCLUDES THAT NONSENSE ABOUT THE TRAIN STATION THAT WE WILL NEVER GET, THAT WE HAVE PROVEN IN P&D MEETINGS THAT
I'VE CALLED OUT THAT WE DON'T NEED, DON'T WANT, AND THAT'S AMANDA THAT'S PUSHED IT. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT. WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF GETTING IT, SO THE TRAIN STATION COMPONENT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THIS MOBILITY STUDY. AND I'M GOING TO SAY AT THIS POINT I DESPERATELY THINK WE
NEED TRAMS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT MOBILITY AND MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH THIS CITY. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT PUTTING TRAMS IN. I KNOW THE COUNTY, THE MEETING, COMMISSIONER CRUZ WAS AT WITH THE DOT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THAT THERE WERE LIKE FIVE OF US THERE. I THINK THEY BROUGHT UP THE
TRAMS. I THINK THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING IDEA, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION ON HOW IT GOT DONE IN THE CITY WHERE I BOUGHT MY CONDO IN FRANCE, AND THEY DID IT IN THE LEAST INVASIVE WAY POSSIBLE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY USED AS LIKE THE GOLD STANDARD FOR
ADDING A TRAM INTO A CITY WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT COLLEGE DOCTORAL STUDENT DID A REVIEW ON IT. IT'S AMAZING. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TRAMS, WHETHER YOU'RE MOVING THEM UP AND DOWN US-1 OR UP AND DOWN
SORRY, EAST AND WEST ON BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO USE THE MONEY AND MOVE PEOPLE AND SOLVE SOME OF OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I'M GOING TO FINISH THIS BY SAYING, PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS. JUST REMOVE THE TRAIN STATION, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE OR POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GO FOR IT.
LET'S DEAL WITH WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE COUNTY. SCREW THEM. THIS IS WHAT YOUR RESIDENTS WANT. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS BARBARA WHITTY. I AM -- I WANT TO ECHO WHAT SUSAN SAID ABOUT THE TRAIN
DEPOT. WE DON'T NEED IT. WE DON'T NEED THE EXTRA DENSITY THAT IT REPRESENTS. AND THAT SHIP HAS PROBABLY ALREADY SAIL LED, BUT I WISH IT WASN'T. THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE, IS I CAN'T BELIEVE THE MOXIE OF THE
COUNTY COMING DOWN HERE AND THREATENING TO SUE US FOR PURSUING OUR TAX MONEY BEING RETURNED. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA. HOW ABOUT WE SUE THEM FOR THE MONEY WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN FOR THE PAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS! >> Mayor: THANK YOU. LAST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON
THIS ITEM. SEEING NO ONE. AND I SEE NO ONE ONLINE. PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IS NOW CLOSED. THIS IS ITEM 8B FOR ANYONE ONLINE LISTENING. ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES? OTHERWISE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION APPROVED.
>> SECOND. >> Mayor: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER TURKIN. I HEARD A SECOND FROM VICE MAYOR, BUT COUNCIL, BEFORE WE CONTINUE YOU HAD -- >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. THEY DID BRING SOME DIFFERENT PROPOSALS WITH REGARD TO THE RATES FOR THE ORDINANCE. THE SO IF WE APPROVE IT AS IS
IT'S GOING TO BE THE ORIGINAL RATES THAT DON'T ALLOW -- >> AMENDED FROM DISCUSSION LAST TIME. >> CORRECT. >> SO SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK THERE'S A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. >> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. >> WE COULD DO THAT RIGHT NOW,
AND THEN I CAN JUST ADD THAT LANGUAGE, WHETHER YOU WANT THE 10% OR THE 20%, AND WE CAN APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT THE 10% OR 20% REDUCTION AS PROPOSED BY STAFF.
>> Mayor: I WOULD FIRST ASK IF STAFF COULD PLEASE BRING UP THAT SLIDE. AND IF AMANDA AND JONATHAN WANT TO COME UP AS WE PREPARE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. COULD YOU ORIENT US TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
WHICH ONE ARE YOU REFERRING TO? >> THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S A 10% REDUCTION, AND THE FEES ARE BASED ON 1,000 SQUARE FEET. I WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THE LINES JUST TO SEE THE ACTUAL FEE ITSELF. SO, CURRENTLY THE 10% REDUCTION
WOULD REPRESENT $2,200 APPROXIMATELY FOR 1,000 SQUARE FEET. THE MATH IS DEFINITELY WRONG FOR THE 20%. [LAUGHTER] >> SORRY ABOUT THE DYSLEXIA. THE 2245 WOULD BE THE 20%. THE 2525 WOULD BE THE 10%. >> GOT IT.
>> Mayor: SO SWITCH THE 10 WITH THE 20. >> I APOLOGIZE. LET ME REPHRASE THAT. A 10% REDUCTION WOULD BE THE $2,525 PER SQUARE FEET, AND THE 10%, THE 20% REDUCTION WOULD BE
THE $2,245 PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET. >> Mayor: ALL RIGHT. WHO BROUGHT THIS UP, COMMISSION TURKIN, DID YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? >> YEAH, 20%. LIKE I MENTIONED LAST TIME.
WON'T INCENTIVIZE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. IT'S BEEN STATE INSIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME. WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO INCENTIVIZE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. >> IF YOU COULD STATE THE DISCOUNT OF 20%, AND WE WILL
CHECK THE MATH BEFORE WE AMEND THE ORDINANCE. >> YOU WANT ME TO SUGGEST THE MOTION? >> Mayor: BEFORE THAT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, PLEASE DO SO. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 8B AS AMENDED AS STATED FOR 20%
REDUCTION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS STATED. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> Mayor: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET ME TURN NOW TO OUR CITY CLERK TO BEGIN THE VOTING.
[VOTIING] THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, EVER SINCE I WAS A COMMISSIONER. SO, IT'S NICE TO SEE THIS
THROUGH. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. >> Mayor: THE NEXT PORTION IS SECTION 10. WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT SECTION 10A, DISCUSSION REGARDING WORK FORCE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. VICE MAYOR YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. >> SO MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE I ADDED THIS ITEM. MY REQUEST WAS SOMETHING I ASKED
AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON AND WE AMENDED AND CHANGED SOME OF OUR TO TRY TO ENHANCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND SO I ASKED FOR THAT AGAIN. AND IN TURN IT OPENED A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS AND OPTIONS
THIS IS A GOOD THING TO HOPEFULLY BRING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NOT ONE OF THE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ISSUES WITH LIVE LOCAL, IS LIVE LOCAL IS BRINGING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S BRINGING IN AFFORDABLE APARTMENT HOUSING RENTAL.
AND SO IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH AMANDA, I WAS ASKING HER. YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? HOW CAN WE INCENTIVIZE BRINGING IN AFFORDABLE FOR-PURCHASE AND FOR SALE PROPERTIES. THAT'S KIND OF HOW OUR CONVERSATION STARTED.
AND SO I KNOW SHE HAS SOME GREAT IDEAS TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN START THIS PROCESS GOING. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, THANK YOU. AMANDA RADIGAN, PLANNING DIRECTOR.
I HAVE A BRIEF SUMMARY. SO FIRST I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND/OR WORKFORCE HOUSING. WE HAVE HAD SOME IN COORDINATION WITH THE CRA, SOME UNITS BUILT
WITHIN THE CITY. THOSE INCLUDE ABOUT 250 UNITS WITHIN THE HEART OF BOYNTON AREA. IT ALSO INCLUDES SEVERAL APPROVED PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDES 41 UNITS WITHIN THE PULTI COTTAGE DISTRICT AND
WITHIN THE PIERCE PROJECT. IT ALSO INCLUDES, AND YOU'LL SEE THESE IN RED OUTLINED. THE DUNES AND THE DUNE RESIDENCE ARE LIVE LOCAL PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED SINCE WE ARE PREEMPTED FROM THE STATE TO BRING THOSE FORWARD TO COMMISSION. BUT THAT HAS CURRENTLY BROUGHT
IN 119 UNITS IN ONE PROJECT AND 15 UNITS WITHIN THE OTHER, WHICH TOTALS 572 UNITS WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF AFFORDABLE UNITS. AS STATED BY VICE MAYOR KELLEY, THOUGH, I BELIEVE ALMOST ALL OF
THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS. SO I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING PROGRAM. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PROGRAM IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. IT IS BROKEN UP INTO TWO
SECTIONS, THE BUILDING OR CONSTRUCTION OF WORKFORCE UNITS, AND THE IN LIEU WHICH IS A PAYMENT. THE BUILDING PROGRAM IS TAILORED TOWARD HOUSING DEVELOPERS, AND THROUGH FAR BONUSES.
THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS FOR PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO CONSTRUCT THE ACTUAL UNITS AND IN RETURN A PERCENTAGE OF THE UNITS ARE DEDICATED TOWARDS WORK FORCE HOUSING. NOW, THE OTHER SECTION, WHICH IS THE IN LIEU OF BUILDING PROGRAM, IS USUALLY TAILORED TO THE
MARKET RATE DEVELOPERS. IT IS INCENTIVIZED BY DENSITY HEIGHT AND F.A.R. BONUSES. THE BIGGEST OPTION WE SEE IS IN THE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF PROGRAM. I HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO FUND THE HOUSING TRUST FUND IN ORDER FOR
THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT WORK FORCE HOUSING INITIATIVES. THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS WITHIN THAT PROGRAM THAT ALLOW FOR THE DONATION OF LAND TO THE CITY, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF OFF-SITE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE UNITS AS WELL AS THE PURCHASE OF
MARKET-RATE UNITS. ALL ARE IN LIEU OF OPTIONS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THOSE USED WITHIN THE PROGRAMMING APP. SO THIS HOUSING TRUST FUND. THE HOUSING TRUST FUND IS ESSENTIALLY LITERALLY A FUND WHERE PAYMENTS FROM THIS PROGRAM CAN BE DEPOSITED INTO, AND IN
TURN THE CITY AND WHAT'S UNDEUNDERLINED STRAIGHT FROM THE CODE TO PROVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS. SO, THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS IN THE CODE.
IT JUST SAYS, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING INITIATIVES. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, AND THIS IS TO LEAD YOUR DISCUSSION NOW, IS WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THOSE DOLLARS AS WE ARE EXPECTING SOME PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TO BE DEPOSITED INTO THAT ACCOUNT FAIRLY SOON WITH THE
CONSTRUCTION OF TOWN SQUARE AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS WE SEE GOING UP. AND IN TALKING WITH VICE MAYOR KELLEY, THE FIRST THREE ARE ACTUALLY GEARED TOWARDS FOR SALE OR HOMEOWNERSHIP. SO THE FIRST ONE, AND THESE ARE ALL IDEAS FOR PROGRAMS WE COULD
BUILD IN ORDER TO HAVE THE HOUSING TRUST FUND, FUND THESE PROGRAMS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS TO SUBSIDIZE FOR-SALE WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT COULD BE BASED ON THE PER-UNIT OF FOR-SALE UNITS.
I'M SORRY, A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT PER UNIT THAT IS FOR SALE. THE OTHER ONE IS A DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND THE THIRD COULD BE LAND ACQUISITION THAT THE CITY WOULD DO IN ORDER TO SUPPLY WORKFORCE HOUSING OR TO SUPPLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES,
WHICH IN TURN WE COULD REQUIRE THEM TO BE FOR-SALE PRODUCTS. THE OTHER THREE ARE JUST LOOSELY RELATED. SOME CAN BE HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND SOME ARE NOT HOMEOWNERSHIP. ONE CAN BE AN OVERALL FEE REDUCTION PROGRAM FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS.
ANOTHER IDEA IS RENTAL-ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. SOME OF THAT IS GEARED TOWARDS MOVE-IN COSTS, AND THE THIRD, THE LAST ONE IN THIS CATEGORY, IS KIND OF A CATCH ALL, WHICH IS REALLY TO SUBSIDIZE OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING NEEDS. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SENIOR HOUSING, VETERAN'S
HOUSING AND SOME ADULTS WITH DISABLES HOUSING. ALL NEEDS TO USE THOSE FUNDS, THEY'RE LOOSELY RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF THEY ARE INCOME RESTRICTED. WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THE CODE THE WAY IT IS NOW. SOME OF THESE MIGHT TAKE TIGHTENING UP OR EXPANDING OF THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT THE FUNDS
ARE USED FOR, BUT I THINK EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST COULD BE A PRODUCT OF THE WORKFORCE, THE HOUSING TRUST FUND. AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR FILL IN GAPS IF NEEDED. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR, YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF?
>> SURE! I THINK THAT, I MEAN, THE INCENTIVES AND THE PROGRAMS, I THINK THAT THE FIRST THREE, LIKE AMANDA MENTIONED, ARE REALLY GEARED TOWARDS ATTRACTING
SINGLE-FAMILY OR FOR-PURCHASE PROPERTIES, AND SO IN OUR CONVERSATIONS TRYING TO GEAR WHAT THAT FUNDING COULD BE USED FOR SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF THERE AT THE DISCRETION OF
WHOEVER IS ON THE DAIS AT THE TIME THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. I THINK US ESTABLISHING TRUE PROGRAMS TO REALLY KICK OFF
ENHANCING OUR, THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, IS A WORTHWHILE TASK. THAT'S AMANDA, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR RESEARCH AND WORK ON THIS. AND I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THEIR THOUGHTS. I'VE HAD LOTS OF THOUGHTS ON
THIS, AND I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING, BEING THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH WHATEVER MONEY GOES INTO THE HOUSING FUND, I THINK, IS DEFINITELY A GOOD THING. THANK YOU.
>> Mayor: ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COMMISSIONER. >> I LIKE THE LAND ACQUISITION COMPONENT. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, AND BUY MORE PROPERTIES IN THE EAST SO THEY DON'T BECOME SUBJECT TO LIVE LOCAL. AS FAR AS THE DENSITY OR
AWARDING DENSITY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. TALLAHASSEE'S ALREADY DOING THAT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR. I DO THINK THERE IS A NEED TO LOOKING AT SUBSIDIZING FOR SENIOR HOUSING. YOU HAVE A LOT OF SENIOR
RESIDENTS WHO ARE BEING HIT FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES. WHETHER THAT'S CONDO ASSESSMENTS, WHETHER IT'S INSURANCE, PROPERTY TAXES, COST OF LIVING, RIGHT. THE AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO NOT REALLY LOOK AT,
NOT JUST LOOK AT FUTURE RESIDENTS, BUT LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE NOW AND SEEING HOW WE CAN SUBSIDIZE AND HELP THE SENIORS AND THOSE PROTECTED CLASSES THAT HAVE INVESTED IF OUR COMMUNITY YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR WITH OUR PROPERTY TAXES. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK
ATSHIPPING THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE NOW. I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OPTIONS WITH THAT. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. LET ME JUST BRIEFLY CHIME IN. ONE RECOMMENDATION I WOULD MAKE, AMANDA, IS THAT MAYBE WE LOOK AT THIS THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS.
THAT IS, WHICH OF THESE IDEAS, AND MAYBE THERE'S MORE, WHICH OF THESE IDEAS WOULD INCREASE THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOUSING STOCK? WHICH OF THESE WILL ACTUALLY, AS COMMISSIONER TURKIN ALLUDED TO, HELP THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WITH
OUR CURRENT HOUSING STOCK? AND WHAT, PERHAPS, CAN WE DO TO -- WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, BUOY OR SUPPORT OUR CURN HOUSING STOCK -- OUR CURRENT HOUSING STOCK TO MAKE THEM INTO AFFORDABLE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> IT DOES.
MOST OF THESE COULD FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS, BUT EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS WOULD BE STRUCTURED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO OP OPTIONS 1 AND 3 WOULD ADDO HOUSING STOCK. >> Mayor: NEW CONSTRUCTION. >> NEW CONSTRUCTION, EXACTLY. DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE DOESN'T
NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE NEW CONSTRUCTION. WHAT I WOULD SAY WHEN WE ARE NOT DOING NEW CONSTRUCTION, HOWEVER, SINCE THESE HAVE TO BE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AND OUR PROGRAM IS 15 YEARS, THERE USUALLY WOULD BE SOME REQUIRED DEED RESTRICTION ON THAT
PROPERTY TO REQUIRE IT TO BE MAINTAINED AS WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBSIDIZING ANY GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, THE KIND OF EXCHANGE FOR THAT SUBSIDY, WOULD BE THAT THAT UNIT REMAINS
WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR AN X AMOUNT OF TIME. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. AND ON THAT NOTE, I'M SURE THERE ARE MODELS IN OTHER PLACES. WE'RE NOT THE FIST TO THINK OF THIS. SUBSIDY IS TIME RESTRICTED, IS THAT CORRECT?
FOR EXAMPLE, THESE UNITS WOULD REMAIN AFFORDABLE FOR THE NEXT 10, 15, 20 YEARS IF WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SUBSIDIES ANNUALLY. HOW WOULD THAT WORK? >> IT DEPEND FULLY ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM. FOR NEW UNITS, THE TYPICAL WOULD BE BASED ON A KIND OF GAP
FINANCING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT UNIT. AND THEN IN TURN FOR THE GAP FINANCING, OUR PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY 15 YEARS OF DEED RESTRICTION, LIVE LOCAL REQUIRES 30 YEARS. THAT COULD BE FULLY TIED INTO THE PROGRAM AND REQUIREMENTS OF THAT PROGRAM. IT COULD VARY FROM PROGRAM TO
PROGRAM AS WELL SINCE THE GAP FINANCING PER UNIT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE A MUCH LARGER NUMBER THAN SOMETHING LIKE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. >> Mayor: ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COMMISSIONER CRUZ? >> I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO
SUBSIDIZE, WE NEED TO SUBSIDIZE ONLY FOR-SALE PRODUCTS. I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH THINGS FOR RENT ALREADY, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE IS FOR RENT. AND THERE'S LIKE -- WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALSO, I
THINK ABOUT, IN MY OPINION, AND THIS IS A CONCLUSION I'VE COME TO AFTER BEING, SITTING HERE FOR THREE YEARS. ALTHOUGH IT'S GREAT THAT WE RECEIVE THE MONEY, WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DEVELOPING LAND. SO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOMEONE ELSE TO BUILD
A PRODUCT AFTER ALL. SO, IF WE CREDIT THE INCENTIVES TO BE ONLY, AND ONLY FOR-SALE PRODUCTS FOR OUR FUTURE LAND, THAT IS, I THINK, A MAGNIFICENT IDEA OF HOW WE CAN PROTECT ANY LAND THAT WE DO ACQUIRE, AND
IT'S THE ONLY TIME WE CAN ACTUALLY MANDATE AND SAY IF YOU'RE NOT BUILDING FOR-SALE WORKFORCE PRODUCTS THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING AT ALL. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU KIND OF MIXED TWO OF O THE PROGRAMS TOGETHER. SO TO SUBSIDIZE FOR-SALE WORK
FORCE, IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE ON OUR PROPERTY. WE WOULD SUBSIDIZE AND REQUIRE IT BE A FOR-SALE UNIT AND REQUIRE DEEDED FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS. AND THEN LAND ACQUISITION, ASK FOR THAT SAME THING. WE CAN, AND THAT -- MY THOUGHTS
ON THIS, AND THIS CAN CHANGE AND MORE, BUT WHEN I WROTE LAND AK ACQUISITION FOR WORK FORCE, AFFORDABLE, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TO ADD
FOR-SALE PRODUCTS OR OTHER DEVELOPERS OF THAT NATURE. AND OUR PARTICIPATION IN THAT WOULD BE THE DONATION OF THAT PROPERTY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT WHEN I WROTE THAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE AREN'T OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD SUPPORT LAND ACQUISITION WITH THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO GET, AND SPECIFICALLY MAKING SURE WE DEED RESTRICT THOSE NEW PROPERTIES TO BE FOR-SALE-ONLY PRODUCTS AND NOT HIGH RISES, BUT MAYBE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES OR TOWN HOMES. AND THEN DESIGNATE A PORTION OF
THAT TO BE DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY AND ONLY FOR SENIORS. SO WE COULD DO A PERCENTAGE. WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THE BOARD DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. IT COULD BE 25%, 30%, SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED FOR SENIORS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NIS SOLUTION, BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
>> AND THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO DO WITH A PROGRAM FOR LAND ACQUISITION BECAUSE WE'D BE BUYING OR ACQUIRING ONE PARCEL AT A TIME. SO IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY WHAT PERCENTAGE. AND ALSO, WE CAN ACQUIRE THE LAND, BUT A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE BASED ON THE PUBLIC
APPLYING FOR THESE S SUBSIDIES. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT, IN MY OPINION, TO ADD A PERCENTAGE ON THAT. WE CAN WRITE INCENTIVES TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING FORS IS. WE CAN TRY TO TAILOR IT SO IT INCENTIVIZES CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS MORE, BUT JUST
BECAUSE THIS IS ONE UNIT AT A TIME, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, IT'S, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS. >> THANK YOU. AND NOBODY RESPOND TO THIS. BUT THINKING ABOUT CRA, IF, IN A
HYPOTHETICAL SENSE, IF WE WERE TO ACQUIRE A BIG CHUNK OF LAND AND WE OWNED IT, AND WE WERE TO USE THAT SPECIFIC LAND TO INCENTIVIZE BUILDING, THEN WHY NOT DE-RESTRICT IT FOR SOMETHING WHEN YOU CAN CONTROL THE PRODUCT
ONCE AND FOR ALL. AND IF IT WAS A LARGE ENOUGH PARCEL,I,ING IN ANY AREA, PER S, NOT TO BE SPECIFIC. BUT WE COULD DESIGNATE A PERCENTAGE TO BE ONLY FOR SENIORS, WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH -- >> AND WE CAN WORD IT LIKE THAT.
IT COULD BE BASED ON SIZE OF PROPERTY. IT'S NOT ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOT, BUT IF SOMETHING IS ACQUIRED THAT'S OVER AN ACRE, A PORTION OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE NOT ONLY INCOME RESTRICTED, BUT AGE RESTRICTED. >> THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY.
IT WOULD BE, AS WE'RE SEEING MORE LIVE LOCAL NOW, I'M STILL NOT FULLY EDUCATED ON THE INTRICACIES OR LEGALITIES OF IT. I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION FROM LEGAL AS TO -- IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THIS LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH TO SAY WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO DETERMINE ANYTHING, ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, WITH REGARD TO LIVE LOCAL. I'M NOT EDUCATED ON THAT YET.
I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO RECEIVE IS A REPORT FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER TO EDUCATE MYSELF AND I WOULD SAY EVERYONE HERE, BECAUSE I CAN ALWAYS LEARN MORE, RIGHT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY!
I THINK I'VE DONE AN AMENDMENT BUT I CAN EXPAND OR RE-SEND IT. WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A CONVERSATION. >> I CAN NOTE THAT THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION HAS REALLY GREAT RESOURCES AVAILABLE ONLINE THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE. I ACTUALLY DID PRINT A FEW COPIES OF THEIR OVERVIEW OF THE
BILL, AS WELL AS A PORTION OF THEIR SLIDES THAT TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THEIR PREEMPTIONS, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS READ THIS AND HAS BEEN TASKED WITH ENFORCING SOME OF THESE NEW REGULATIONS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THESE ARE PREEMPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM LOCAL AUTHORITIES,
SPECIFICALLY IN THREE AREAS. SO THERE ARE RULES THAT THE STATE NOW GOVERNS IN TERMS OF DENT DENSITY FOR ELIGIBLE PRODUCTS, FOR HEIGHT AND FAR AND NOW PARKING.
THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN THE BILL, IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE, MEANING YOU ARE PROVIDING RENTAL. 40% OF THOSE UNITS ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING. UNDER 120% IMI. >> 120% IS PRETTY HIGH.
>> YES, IT IS. >> I'M NOT EVEN UP THERE WITH MY MASTER'S DEGREE. >> WITH REGARD TO PREEMPTION. THE CITY STARTS WITH HOME RULE, AND THE STATE CAN COME IN AND SAY WE'VE DECIDED TO REGULATE IT
INSTEAD AND NO YOU CAN'T. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE HERE. WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO REGULATE THAT WHATSOEVER. >> IT'S HARD FOR ME -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE. BUT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S 0% OF AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT FUTURE PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET A LIST OF THINGS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE WHETHER IT'S DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY. THERE'S DIRECT WAYS AND INDIRECT
WAYS, RIGHT. BACK TO I REQUESTED TO LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN. TO DO AN ENTIRE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE CITY. BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE US POWER AND AUTHORITY TO MAYBE LOOK AT GREEN SPACE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> COMMISSIONER CRUZ, I CAN JUST
SAY THAT THE COMP PLAN WOULD NOT SUPERCEDE STATE STATUTE. IT'S KIND OF A TWO-FOLD THING. I'M NOT AN EXPERT. THERE ARE EXPERTS I CAN PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THAT HAVE HELPED TEACH ATTORNEYS AND PLANNERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE HOW THIS IS
SUPPOSED TO BE ENACTED. SOMEBODY WHO IS A REGULATORY PERSON, IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO COME TO GRIPS WITH IT BECAUSE AS AN AUTHORITY, IT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY, AND I THINK ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO IS TALK TO OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND TAKE THIS TO
TALLAHASSEE BECAUSE WE REALLY ARE PREEMPTED. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO. >> SPECIFIC TO THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, JUST -- I WAS REFERRING TO RE-ZONING. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THAT. ONE WOULD BE THE STATE STATUTE
AND WHENEVER YOU DO A RE-ZONING THERE ARE ALWAYS VERY -- THERE'S A MUCH MORE LEGAL PRECEDENT ON TAKINGS, AND IF WE RE-ZONE PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL WE ARE AFFECTING THEIR TAKINGS AND OPENING US UP
TO POSSIBLE LAWSUITS. >> I MEANT THE OTHER WAY TO -- >> Mayor: LET ME TURN -- THANK YOU. LET ME TURN TO -- >> MORE AVAILABILITY. >> AMANDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. COMMISSIONER TURKIN AND THEN COMMISSIONER HAY AND SO ON.
>> I THINK THIS IS A GREAT TOPIC, AND FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THESE THINGS. I PRO PROVIDED MULTIPLE SOLUTIO, FARCE REDUCTION IN DENSITY FROM 150-45 FEET. I DIDN'T GET ANY SPORT OF THAT. WE GOT TO 85 FEET. FOR A LONG TIME I PROPOSED FOR
AN ENHANCING OF GREEN SPACE, RIGHT. AND I DIDN'T GET SUPPORT FOR THAT. WE HAD MULTIPLE CHANCES TO IDENTIFY STUFF TO ROADBLOCK THIS. MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF UNITS, RIGHT. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE HAD BROUGHT UP, AND THEN THE
SPONSORING CITY COMMISSIONER APPARENTLY DID NOT WANT TO SEE IT BACK ON THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW. WE HAD CHANCE AFTER CHANCE -- >> WHOA, WHOA, THAT IS NOT TRUE. I REQUESTED FOR THAT TO BE ADDED. I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. THAT IS INCORRECT. >> Mayor: ONE PERSON AT A TIME. COMMISSIONER TURKIN, FINISH YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> I REQUESTED MINUTES. >> Mayor: BOTH OF YOU. YOU WILL HAVE TIME TO RESPOND AND -- [INDISTINCT] TO FINISH IT. >> I'M TELLING YOU I SAID I DON'T KNOW, SO IF I FINISH THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I DIDN'T CUT YOU OFF, SO PLEASE DON'T CUT ME OFF.
WE HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO MITIGATE THIS. I CAME IN TRYING TO MITIGATE THIS, AND I DIDN'T GET THE SUPPORT, AND NOW WE'RE PLAYING CATCHUP. SO LET LIVE LOCAL BE A LESSON THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT
IT'S A WIDE SCOPE. IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S TRAFFIC, RIGHT. I'VE BEEN HOLLERING ABOUT THIS THE LAST THREE YEARS. YOU SEE IT ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU HEAR ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC COMMENT. RIGHT? TOWN SQUARE. THAT WAS VOTED 4-1.
900 UNITS. WHO VOTED AGAINST THAT? I DID. HIPERION, WHEN THAT WAS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. THEY NEEDED A PIECE OF CITY OR CRA-OWNED LAND IN ORDER TO GET THE PROJECT DONE, RIGHT. WHO VOTED AGAINST THAT?
I DID. SO TO SIT HERE AND SAY WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS NOW, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LOOK BACK AT THE PAST AND SEE HOW WE CAN LEARN FROM IT AND WHEN WE LOOK
AT PUSHING FORWARD GENUINE POLICY, RIGHT, YOU DON'T JUST IGNORE IT.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING AND THINKING. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE DENSITY, SIMPLE AND PLAIN. 150 FEET'S WAY TOO HIGH. 85 FEET'S WAY TOO HIGH. WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR IT. I STANDBY WHAT I SAY. I DON'T APPROVE ANY INCREASED DENSITY. WHETHER IT'S FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FEE SIMPLE. WE GOT A LOT TO FOCUS ON NOW, RIGHT, AND I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN
FOR THE RECORD THAT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS I PROPOSED MULTIPLE POLICIES TO TRY TO COMBAT THIS. THANKS. >> Mayor: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CRUZ, I SAID I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR. AFTER YOUR COMMENTS I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET BACK TO THE ITEM AT HAND TO GIVE STAFF
ADDITIONAL INPUT AND DIRECTION AND PROCEED WITH THE MEETING. >> YES. I DID REQUEST A DISCUSSION FOR MINIMUM-SIZED UNITS, AND THAT NEVER CAME BACK ON THE AGENDA. I DIDN'T REQUEST FOR THAT TO BE GONE. YOU'VE REQUESTED A LOT OF THINGS
THAT HAVEN'T COME BACK, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR THEM NOT COMING BACK. LET'S NOT ATTACK EACH OTHER. LET'S JUST RESPECT EACH OTHER. RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS. YEAH, THAT'S IT. I WANTED TO SAY I DID REQUEST A
DISCUSSION ON MINIMUM-SIZED UNITS, AND I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN INDIRECT WAY TO POTENTIALLY MAKE SOME CHANGES, YOU KNOW. AND IT'S NEVER TOO LATE. THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor: THANK YOU SO MUCH. BOTH OF YOU.
YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN NOTED. COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR, KELLEY, THIS WAS YOUR ITEM. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT:OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> NO, NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THE REASON AND THE REASON FOR
THIS CONVERSATION WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A WORKFORCE HOUSING FUND, AND IT WAS REALLY TO GET INPUT AND START A CONVERSATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON HOW WE CAN BEST
WORD A PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN -- HOW TO USE THOSE FUNDS. SO I FEEL LIKE THIS CONVERSATION KIND OF WENT ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION WAS WHAT PROGRAMS WERE POSSIBLE AND FEASIBLE AND
WHAT PROGRAMS THE DAIS WAS, THE COMMISSION, WAS INTERESTED IN STARTING AND WORKING ON LANGUAGE AND FIGURING OUT HOW IT WOULD WORK. I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE POINT
OF THE CONVERSATION WAS TO DETERMINE, AS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN AND THE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF GOES INTO THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING FUND, HOW BEST CAN WE DECIDE WHERE THOSE MONEYS WILL
GO IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE FOR-SALE PROJECTS GOING INTO THE CITY, WHETHER IT BE EAST, WHETHER IT BE WEST, WHETHER IT BE NORTH, WHETHER IT BE SOUTH, BUT REALLY TO START THAT CONVERSATION. I JUST WANT TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, AND WHAT THE POINT OF
THE DISCUSSION WAS, WAS TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. I THINK LAND ACQUISITION IS ONE POSSIBLE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT ALL THE EGGS IN ONE BASKET BECAUSE LIKE YOU POINTED OUT, AMANDA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE
THAN LIKELY A PARCEL HERE, A PARCEL THERE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A BLOCK WHEREIN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCENTIVIZE OR PARTNER IN A LARGER FOR-SALE PROJECT. I KNOW WE LOOK -- WE TALK ABOUT THE OTHER HAT.
THE CRA, AND WE SEE JUST HOW LONG IT TAKES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SEVERAL LAND ACQUISITIONS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE IT FOR ONE PROJECT. I DON'T WANT TO PUT ALL THE EGGS IN ONE BASKET.
I THINK WE CAN UTILIZE SOME OF THE FUNDS FOR THAT. I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS CONVERSATION, WHERE IT MAKES MOST SENSE TO ALLOCATE OR WHAT PROGRAM WOULD MAKE THE
MOST SENSE TO START. AND IT -- WE CAN -- AND AMANDA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, WE CAN SAY WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH THIS ONE PROGRAM, AND LET'S TRY IT OUT. SEE IF THERE'S ANY -- SEE IF IT BITES, AND ALLOCATE A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND SEE -- NOT PUT EVERYTHING INTO ONE PROGRAM, BUT SEE IF THAT TAKES OFF. SEE IF IT INCENTIVIZES, SEE IF IT WORKS, A DOWN PAYMENT PROGRAM OR SUBSIDIZE FOR-SALE UNITS FOR SENIORS OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN OR WANTS TO COME IN, THEY CAN GO, OH, WAIT, THERE'S THIS SUBSIDY THAT'S AVAILABLE IF I USE FOR-SALE UNITS FOR SENIORS, I'M ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S --
WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHAT PROJECTS AND WHAT PROGRAMS IS THE COMMISSION INTERESTED IN TO START GOING -- TO START MAKING SURE WE HAVE -- WE'RE PUTTING THESE FUND TO GOOD USE SO THEY'RE NOT JUST SITTING IN THE ACCOUNT WAITING. >> Mayor: ABSOLUTELY. VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US THIS.
I HAD SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE SEINE SAME LINES IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. WE HAVE THIS FUND. IT'S NEW. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T A WILD, WILD WEST. THAT WAS THE PHRASE I USED TO STAFF OF HOW WE USE IT. I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD IDEAS HERE. AGAIN, MY COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY. I WANT TO THINK ABOUT THOSE
THREE BUCKETS. WHAT CAN WE DO TO CREATE NEW HOUSING? WHAT CAN WE DO WITH CURRENT HOUSING TO MAKE THEM AFFORDABLE? AND WHAT CAN WE DO -- THE BETTER WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR EARLIER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESERVE THE CURRENT HOUSING STOCK.
ALL THREE PATHWAYS INCREASES AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE RESIDENTS. NOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THOUGHTS I HAD, JUST BIG PICTURE, IS WHO GETS THE MONEY? BECAUSE, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT RENTAL-ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM I. SOUND LIKE A GREAT IDEA. SOUND LIKE IT, BUT LET'S SAY SOMEONE IS RENTING A UNIT AND WE HELP PAY FOR THEORY RENT. IS THAT WHAT'S MEANT BY RENTAL ASSISTANCE? MY WORRY IS THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THE LANDLORD, RIGHT. WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO?
ARE WE MAKING IT AFFORDABLE FOR THE RESIDENT? DO THEY BENEFIT FROM IT? THE LONG RUN? OR IS IT A BAND-AID AND SOME SUPER, WEALTHY PERSON WHO MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THESE TENANTS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, AMANDA?
>> THAT DOES. OF ALL OF THEM UP HERE, I THINK THAT ONE IS THE MOST TEMPORARY OF ALL OF THEM. HOWEVER, IN THE RENTAL-ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS I HAVE SEEN, THEY ARE NOT ONGOING RENTAL SUBSIDIES. THEY ARE USUALLY STRUCTURED FOR MOVE-IN COSTS.
SO IT HELPS THEM GET INTO AN APARTMENT AND USUALLY HELPS WITH DEPOSITS FOR LAST MONTH. THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS A ONE-TIME, LIKE A GRANT, THAT WE HELP PEOPLE GET INTO A UNIT IF THEY ARE FALLING WITHIN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF INCOME.
>> Mayor: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE FEE-REDUCTION PROGRAM. IMPACT FEES, WHAT FEES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> WE CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THEM. THIS ONE IS GEARED TOWARDS BIGGER DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T MEAN MULTI-FAMILY, BUT IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A
BIGGER PROJECT, FEE REDUCTION PROGRAMS WOULD INCLUDE REDUCTIONS IN PERMIT FEES. OR SERVICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO THEM. LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE EXPEDITED PERMITTING. THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF REDUCTION POSSIBLY IN IMPACT FEES. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL TAILORED TO
DIFFERENT USERS. >> Mayor: UNDERSTOOD. LET'S JUST PRETEND FOR A MOMENT IT WAS IMPACT FEES. HAS THERE EVER BEEN A DEVELOP THEORY SAID, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE BUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE IMPACT FEES? IN OTHER WORDS, DOES THAT ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. IF WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO TARGET IT TO? SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF TRAINS OF THOUGHTS I'M HAVING. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU'RE LOOKING, IF THE GOALS OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE FOR FOR-SALE UNITS THIS WOULD NOT BE VERY IMPACTFUL AS WELL BECAUSE
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF OWNERSHIP OF THEIR PROGRAM FOR A FEE REDUCTION. SO THIS PROGRAM IS LIKE ICING ON EXISTING, ON ANY EXISTING PROGRAM THAT IS WE COULD WANT TO FUND OUT OF THE HOUSING TRUST FUND. >> Mayor: SO MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THAT THE MOST -- THE LARGEST BARRIER TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION IS LAND COST. THAT MAY CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I UNDERSTAND IT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME. WE'RE GOING HAVE TO PIECE THEM TOGETHER, BUT CONTRIBUTING TO LAND ACQUISITION FOR FOR-SALE
UNITS, I'D BE OPEN TO THAT. THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PROGRAM FOR THAT. I'M GETTING HEAD NODS FROM ANDREW HERE. I ASSUME THIS WILL EXPAND THAT. THE FIRST THREE IDEAS YOU HAVE, I'M RIGHT ON BOARD, AND IF WE
COULD CARVE OUT SOME ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES FOR SENIOR HOUSING, VETERAN'S HOUSING, WHO COULD BE AGAINST THAT? THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO JUST NOT THINK ABOUT BUILDING NEW, BUT
ALSO PRESERVING WHAT WE'VE GOT. THE OVERALL INCREASE THE HOUSING STOCK, BUT ALSO I'M COGNIZANT OF WHERE THE MONEY WILL GO TO, RIGHT. SO GREAT IDEAS. I WANT -- LET'S GET STARTED. PUT SOMETHING IN DETAIL, AND I'M FULLY BEHIND IT. THIS IS THE RIGHT SPIRIT OF THE
FUND. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAD ON YOUR POWERPOINT SLIDES, AMANDA, WAS THIS -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH SLIDE -- BUT THERE WAS THIS CONCEPT OF OFF-SITE CONSTRUCTION. HAS ANYONE OFFERED THAT TO US YET?
>> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED -- >> CAN WE CLARIFY WHAT'S MEANT BY THAT? SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD MARKET RATE, AND THEY WANT TO BENEFIT FROM WHATEVER INCENTIVE. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY INCLUDE IT IN THAT PROJECT, BUT THEY MAY BUILD IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? >> EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. THE COUNTY HAS ONE THEY COULD BUILD ANYWHERE. ACTUALLY, I THINK PULTI WAS THE RESULT OF A MARKET-RATE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT REQUIRED AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT, AND THAT WAS BUILT HERE. HOUR PROGRAM DOES REQUIRE IT TO BE BUILT WITHIN THE CITY,
HOWEVER. WHICH ON LAND IS SCARCE HERE. WE ARE MOSTLY BUILT-OUT CITY, SO IT HASN'T BEEN OFFERED YET. >> Rep >> Mayor: OKAY. I HAVE A GOOD FEELING. YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT SPIRIT.
YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ANYTHING ELSE FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COMMISSIONER HAY OR ANYONE ELSE? WE'RE GOOD. AMANDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU HAVE DIRECTION, IS IT CLEAR, SUFFICIENT? >> I THINK OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE -- >> THE FEDERAL FUNDING GRANT
MONEY WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR -- SO FOR THIS PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR CURRENT HOUSING TRUST FUND THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET MONEY DEPOSITED INTO. HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES RECEIVE SHIP FUNDS AND CGBD DOLLARS THAT
ARE PROGRAMMED, AND THE COMMISSION APPROVES THE PROGRAM FOR BOTH OF THOSE FUNDS ANNUALLY. THAT IS, I BELIEVE, WHERE WE HAVE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, AND WE EVEN HAVE SOME FINANCING, MAYOR, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT UPKEEP AND PRESERVATION OF EXISTING HOUSING STOCK.
THERE ARE SOME FUNDS AND GRANTS AVAILABLE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM THAT COVER SOME OF THAT. SO I THINK FOR -- WHAT I WOULD LIKING TO DO WITH THE CITY'S DIRECTION IS PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ON A COUPLE OF PROPOSALS FOR A PROGRAM TO TALK THROUGH THE DETAILS, THE DEVIL'S IN THE
DETAILS WITH THESE THINGS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE WRITE FULL PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON WHAT THE GOALS ARE OF THEM, AND WHO WE'RE TARGETING FOR EACH OF THEM. I COULD BRING BACK THREE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY NUMBER OF THEM. I WOULD BRING MORE INFORMATION
ON WHAT CGBD IS USED FOR TO SEE A HOLISTIC VIEW ON THE PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY IS OFFERING. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> Mayor: AS PART OF YOUR RESEARCH, AMANDA, IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY. THEY ALREADY HAVE A PROGRAM, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LEARN FROM THEM WHAT'S WORKING FOR THEM. WHAT'S NOT WORKING.
WHAT ARE SOME GAPS WE COULD FILL IN. >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor: LET'S KEEP GOING. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM AND THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION REGARDING MINER ROAD EXTENSION
BY PALM BEACH COUNTY. ANOTHER REQUESTED BY VICE MAYOR. >> GOSH, HOW DO YOU BRING THIS UP? SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO SOME NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACROSS THE CANAL FROM ME NOTICED THAT THERE
WAS SOME SURVEYORS ALONG THE CANAL, AND THEY REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THIS IS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE COUNTY'S THOUGHT PROCESS THAT MINER ROAD WOULD, FOR WHATEVER REASON, BE EXTENDED FROM MILITARY TRAIL TO LAWRENCE
ROAD. THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS MINER ROAD IS A VERY NARROW, TWO-LANE, OR TWO AND A HALF LANE, I GUESS IF YOU COUNT THE TURN LANES, VERY NARROW ROAD WITH ONE
SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND AS -- WITH COUNTY TRADITION, IS 45 MILES AN HOUR DOWN MINER ROAD. WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT WALK DOWN MINER ROAD TO ACCESS CITRUS
GROVE ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE A FIRE STATION, SEVERAL BUS STOPS. WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE WITHIN 6 FEET OF THE ROAD, AND SO WHEN I GOT WORD OF THIS, I MET WITH THE COUNTY, ALONG WITH CITY
STAFF, AND TO VOICE MY OBJECTION TO THEM EXTENDING THIS ROAD, BECAUSE MINER ROAD, AS WE KNOW, DOES NOT SERVE ANY EAST-WEST PURPOSE, EXCEPT TO GET PEOPLE TO HIGH RIDGE ROAD, AND THEN WEST
TO LAWRENCE AT THIS POINT. AND I WAS TOLD BY THE COUNTY THAT THEIR JOB IS TO GET PEOPLE FROM WEST TO EAST AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT REGARDLESS. SO, I ASKED, AS PART OF THAT
MEETING, TO PROVIDE TRAFFIC DATA BECAUSE THEIR POSITION WAS, PEOPLE UTILIZE CONGRESS AVENUE TO GO NORTH OR SOUTH TO I-95. THEY EITHER GO NORTH OR SOUTH TO GATEWAY. I SAID, NO, I DRIVE THIS EVERY
DAY TO WORK EVERY DAY, AND THAT IS NOT TRUE. THEY GO TO HIGH RIDGE, WHICH HIGH RIDGE IS THEN A SMALL TWO-LANE ROAD THAT HAS NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL, NO TRAFFIC -- NOTHING TO DIRECT TRAFFIC AT HIGH RIDGE AND MINER, AND IT'S
AN ABSOLUTE MESS. WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS NORTH OF MINER ON HIGH RIDGE, AND NOW WITH SOUTH OF MINER, YOU HAVE PUBLIX, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I-95 ACCESS, AND SO I ASKED THEM
AFTER THAT MEETING. I SAID, PLEASE PROVIDE ME DATA ON MINER ROAD WEST OF CONGRESS AND EAST OF CONGRESS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING CONGRESS AVENUE TO GO NORTH AND SOUTH TO GET TO 95.
AND IT'S ATTACHED TO THE BACKUPS, BUT THE COMBINED DATA WEST OF CONGRESS WAS 9,969
VEHICLES THAT HIT THEIR TRAFFIC DATA WEST OF CONGRESS AVENUE. EAST OF CONGRESS AVENUE IT WAS 8,845. SO, LESS THAN 1,000 UTILIZE CONGRESS AVENUE TO GO NORTH OR
SOUTH, AND THEY WANT TO INCREASE VOLUME ON TO AN ALREADY CONGESTED TWO-LANE ROAD IN OUR CITY FOR NO OTHER PURPOSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO DIRECT ACCESS TO I-95. THEY HAVE TO GO NORTH OR SOUTH. AND THE ONLY THING THAT IT'S
GOING TO DO IS IT'S GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO AVOID SCHOOL ZONES ON MILITARY TRAIL AND INCREASE TRAFFIC IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. WE HAVE SANDALWOOD, AND THERE'S ALSO CITRUS GLEN AND NULLWOOD,
RIGHT, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 6 FEET IN THEIR BACKYARDS. A MAJOR 45-MILE PER HOUR ROAD. SO, I -- AND SO ANDREW, AS PART OF THIS BACKUP, HE LOOKED AT THE
PALM BEACH COUNTY FIVE-YEAR PLAN, AND THEIR PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY UPDATES TO CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE ON MINER ROAD, OR THE ROUNDABOUT THAT HAS BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS FOR TEN YEARS, BU-
>> Mayor: W WAS IT TAKEN OFF? >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. THEY HAVE NOT STARTED THAT PROCESS. HOWEVER, IN THEIR FIVE-YEAR PLAN THIS YEAR IS MINER ROAD FROM
MILITARY TO LAWRENCE, RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION FEES. WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE FROM NULLWOOD THEIR LAND, AND THE OTHER HOMES, AND THEN IN 2027 CONSTRUCT THIS EXCHANGE OR
THIS EXTENSION WITHOUT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE VOLUME THAT IT WOULD BRING TO AN ALREADY CONGESTED MINER AND HIGH RIDGE INTERSECTION. AND SO I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO PRIORITIZE. STAFF HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH
THEM ABOUT PRIORITIZING THE ROUNDABOUT, AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE TRAFFIC BEFORE YOU START THIS PROCESS, BUT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUSH THIS FORWARD, AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR SOME CONSENSUS FROM MY COLLEAGUES
THAT WE -- ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT ANDREW HAD WAS IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS FROM MY COLLEAGUES TO PRESENT OUR OBJECTION AS A WHOLE WITH THE
COUNTY, WITH REGARD TO THE EXTENSION THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FORCEABLE THAN MY LETTERS, BECAUSE I'VE SENT LETTERS. I'VE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL BACKUPS. THEY'VE IGNORED MY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDIES. I'M LOOKING FOR SOME SUPPORT
FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS. >> Mayor: VICE MAYOR, AS YOUR NEIGHBOR AND AS YOUR COLLEAGUE, I GIVE YOU MY UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU FOR TAKING UP THIS CAUSE. HOW BEST CAN I HELP? WOULD THE BEST THING FOR ME TO
SIGN ON TO A LETTER? WOULD THE BEST THING TO SIGN UP WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONER? HOW BEST CAN WE HELP YOU? >> ANDREW, WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED AS FAR AS THIS ITEM? >> AS MENTIONED, WHEN I MET WITH
VICE MAYOR KELLEY, I ASKED HER TO PUT THIS ITEM ON BECAUSE SHE DID. SHE WROTE LETTERS IN THE PAST. WE CAN CONTINUE THAT EFFORT, WRITING LETTERS. I THINK DEFINITELY A MEETING IF YOU GUYS WOULD LICENSE THE COMMISSIONER TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT AND SET UP MEETINGS WITH
THE COUNTY. I TOO SHARE HER CONCERNS. I DRIVE THIS STRETCH EVERY DAY, AND TO AVOID THOSE SCHOOL ZONES AND COMING DOWN GATEWAY, SO, THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SOME IMPACTS IF THEY GO AHEAD AND DO THE EXTENSION.
LIKE VICE MAYOR KELLEY SAID, I CAN TELL YOU SOME OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS ON THE NORTH-SOUTH SIDE OF LAWRENCE WILL BE DEFINITELY IMPACTED. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT IMPACTS THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT PRIOR TO EXTENDING THIS ROAD. AND THAT WOULD BE DEFINITELY THE
BASIS OF OUR LETTER AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT EXTENSION THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THEY PUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN SO WE'RE NOT BOTTLENECKING OUR RESIDENTS OR MAKING TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN OUR CITY WORSE THAN THEY ARE ALREADY. >> Mayor: AGREED.
WHAT IS THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO? IS IT A JOINT LETTER? IS IT -- >> I THINK A LETTER FROM THE COMMISSION ASKING FOR VICE MAYOR TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND ON BEHALF OF THIS SUBJECT, AND WITH THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE
COMMISSION BEHIND IT. >> FINE BY ME. >> Mayor: YOU HAVE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor: SO COME BACK TO US WITH THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL DRAFT A LETTER, AND WE'LL SEND EVERYBODY A COPY AND MAKE SURE WE KEEP YOU UPDATED ON OUR PROGRESS. >> Mayor: EXCELLENT.
ANY FINAL -- >> SORRY. ONE THING. JUST ONE THING. IT WAS MENTIONED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ADAM, AND AT A FUTURE MEETING -- OR HE'S NOT SITTING THERE.
OH, OR DAN, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF OUR ANIMAL CONTROL AND HOW THAT'S BEING HANDLED? BECAUSE THERE IS AN ISSUE, AND THERE ARE COMPLAINTS HAPPENING,
AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A SPOT THAT IS VACANT. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS NO PLANS TO FILL THAT POSITION, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A DETRIMENT TO OUR RESIDENTS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A PLAN
MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT IS -- WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW AND HOW IT'S BEING HANDLED NOW IS NOT WORKING. IT'S NOT BEING MANNED. WE KNOW THAT NOBODY CAN REPLACE LIZ. IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE FIVE PEOPLE TO REPLACE LIZ. SHE IS IS AN AMAZING ANIMAL
ADVOCATE AND DID THAT JOB JUSTICE, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING. THE AND I MEAN, FOR US TO GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT LEASH LAWS AND LEASH ISSUES, I KNOW -- I WOULD BET MONEY THAT THAT IS THE LEAST OF OUR WORRIES WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMAL ISSUES RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'RE BEING OVERLOOKED AND NOT BEING HANDLED. AND THAT TO ME IS A PROBLEM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THAT, WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THAT, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES? BECAUSE CODE IS BUSY AND CANNOT
BE WORRYING ABOUT LEASH LAWS, AND WE KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BLUE DEDETECTTIVES, OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE OF FUNDS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THAT POSITION AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. >> M >> IT'S A SIMPLE FIX. IF IT'S THE WILL OF THIS BODY TO
HAVE A FULL-SERVICE ANIMAL CONTROL EMPLOYEE ATTACHED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ATTACHED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT OPTION WOULD BE, BUT HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN IN THE PD. WE HAVE NO ISSUE ADDING THAT POSITION BACK OVER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> I KNOW HOW IT GOT REMOVED
BECAUSE I KNOW I DIDN'T VOTE ON IT TO BE REMOVED AND BE REALLOCATED OR BE CHANGED. IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE US ON HOW THOSE ISSUES WERE GOING TO GET ADDRESSED. SO I AM 100% ON BOARD WITH WE SHOULD HAVE AROUND ANIMAL CRUELTY OFFICER IN OUR CITY.
AND THAT IS A POSITION THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE AWAY WHEN LIZ LEFT, AND SO I -- IF IS GONE AND THAT POSITION HAS BEEN REALLOCATED ELSEWHERE, THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT -- WE NEED TO UNFIX THAT.
WE NEED TO -- BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ANYTHING I VOTED ON. I WOULD NOT HAVE SUPPORTED THAT. THAT'S MY POSITION. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. THE >> Mayor: UNDERSTOOD. CITY MANAGER, IF YOU CAN COME BACK NEXT MEETING WITH AN UPDATE TO THAT QUESTION. >> ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S AN EASY FIX. THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE POLICE CHIEF WANTED TO EXPLORE AS FAR AS GOING FROM THAT BECAUSE NO OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN DEDICATED MUNICIPAL ANIMAL CONTROL PERSON. I KNOW LIZ IS MORE OF AN
INSTITUTION. SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY CLOSE TO 30 YEARS. EVERYONE IN THE CITY KNOWS HER. SHE HAS A PASSION FOR WHAT SHE DID, AND THE POLICE CHIEF'S THOUGHT ON THE MATTER WAS IS, AND YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO THAT, VICE MAYOR, WAS HOW DO YOU REPLACE LIZ? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS. I WOULD -- WHAT I'LL DO IS SIT DOWN WITH THE POLICE CHIEF THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO MOVING FORWARD IS. MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST ONE DEDICATED PERSON.
MAYBE WE CAN EXPAND THAT TO LIKE TWO, SO LIKE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE, ONE ON THE WEST SIDE. >> WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING IS NOT WORKING IF WE'RE GETTING LEASH-LAW COMPLAINTS. THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT IN MY -- >> THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF COMPLAINTS. I KNOW WE'VE HEARD IT OVER AT
FOREST HILL PARK IN DISTRICT 3. >> TO HEAR IT AT A COMMISSION MEETING IS AN ISSUE. WE SHOULDN'T BE HEARING ABOUT THESE. THEY SHOULD BE GETTING ADDRESSED AND IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING ADDRESSED WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. >> Mayor: THANK YOU SO MUCH, BOTH OF YOU.
WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER HAY AND THEN COMMISSIONER TURKIN. >> GREAT WORKING ON GETTING THE SIMS CENTER PROJECT GOING. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT'S MOVING ALONG.
FIRST OF ALL, LIKE TO ADD FOR A RELEASE THE STAFF ON LOOKING INTO SOME PROPERTY FOR THE CEMETERY. I'VE SPOKEN ALREADY WITH SOME OF OUR STAFF ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU WANT ME TO REVEAL THE SITE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO -- I DON'T KNOW IT'S AVAILABLE, BUT LOOKS TO BE AVAILABLE. LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO.
SO, JUST WANT TO RELEASE STAFF TO DO THAT FOR THE CEMETERY ADDITIONS THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED, OKAY. [INDISTINCT] ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO -- THIS COMING AROUND FOR STAFF -- BUDGET RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD ALLOW THE PEOPLE IN WHEEL
CHAIRS TO GET THEIR FEET WET AT THE BEACH. RIGHT NOW WE GO OVERBOARD WITH OUR DOGS AND PETS, AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN WHEEL CHAIRS WHO CAN ONLY GO TO THE BOARDWALK, AND THEY
WOULD LIKE TO GET THEIR FEET WET. I'VE SEEN THESE WHEEL CHAIRS WITH THE FAT WHEELS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE MOBILE IN THE SAND, IN THE BEACH SAND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
MAYBE BECAUSE THIS IS BUDGET TIME, PLEASE LOOK INTO IT. MAYBE WE COULD AFFORD ONE, TWO, FOUR, I DON'T KNOW. BUT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THE LIFE
GUARDS MAINTAIN THEM. THE IDEA I SAW WAS A GREAT ONE AND SOMETHING OUR CITY WOULD STAND OUT AGAIN ON. SO PLEASE LOOK IN -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT. BIG WHEEL WHEELCHAIRS. >> I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OR TWO OF THOSE, COMMISSIONER HAY. >> MAYOR: I'VE SEEN THEM, YES.
>> YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE WE DO HAVE THOSE. >> MAYOR: MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. MAYBE THAT'S THE PROBLEM. >> WE NEED TO MARKET A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I WAS ASKED ABOUT IT AND -- THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. SO IF WE HAVE THEM, LET'S -- PROMOTE IT. >> WHAT I'LL DO IS GET WITH
STAFF AND WE'LL DEFINITELY PROVIDE A CONFIRMATION ON EITHER -- >> THE MATS. >> WHO MAINTENANCES THEM? >> OCEAN RESCUE ARE GOING TO BE
THE ONES THAT MAINTAIN AND THEY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH. WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CONFER AND GET BACK TO YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU. COMARK. >> NO, I JUST WANT TO CONCUR ON THE THING WITH LIZ AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER.
SO WE HEARD IT TONIGHT AND WHEN I EMAILED -- THIS WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME FROM CONSTITUENTS IN ACTUALLY BOTH GOLFVIEW HARBOUR AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN FOREST PARK. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT -- SO THE ANSWER I GOT WHEN
I EMAILED YOU, ADAM, FROM THE POLICE CHIEF WAS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO JUST REALLOCATE THAT POSITION. AND IT ESSENTIALLY DISSOLVED, RIGHT, AND NEVER CAME BEFORE COMMISSION. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING. I DON'T CARE IF WE'RE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS IT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NON-HOA SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENT HOMES. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH ■A LOTT OF ANIMALS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT COME BACK. REALLY, IF IT'S OKAY WITH MY COLLEAGUES, I'D LIKE TO SEE A BUDGET AMENDMENT COME BACK SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT POSITION IF WE NEED TO OR IF
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO ADMINISTRATIVELY. >> I CAN DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH DOING THAT AND JUST PROVIDING THAT SPOT BACK OR THE PD. >> BUT I WANT -- BUT I WANT -- THE POSITION WAS ALLOCATED.
THE POSITION WAS PART OF THE BUDGET. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT POSITION HAS GONE. SO I WANT TO HEAR BACK BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHERE THAT POSITION HAS GONE. I DON'T WANT TO JUST ADD ANOTHER POSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAYING FOR IT. SO THAT'S MY REASON.
I 100% WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RE-ADD IT. I DON'T WANT TO RE-ADD THE POSITION THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAYING FOR AND ALLOCATED AND NOW WHERE DID THAT POSITION GO? WHO DID WE HIRE IN PLACE OF -- DID WE HIRE A DETECTIVE? DID WE HIRE SOMEBODY TO SIT AT A COMPUTER?
LIKE I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT WENT. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S MY POSITION ON IT. >> MAYOR: LET'S GET BACK TO THAT IN A FUTURE MEETING SO STAFF HAS ENOUGH TIME TO RESEARCH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND STAFF FOR JOINING
US THIS EVENING