WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=mx2MwH4E8iA Part: 1 1 00:01:31.360 --> 00:02:09.200 We'll give it about uh two to three more minutes, guys, so uh Commissioner Cruz and Commissioner Kelly can have a chance to uh join Vice Mayor uh Turkin and also the mayor on And before we start, can we just make 2 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:28.959 sure we have somebody confirm if the pastor Nate Santos is going to give the invocation? >> Yeah. Is uh is Tammy, are you on? >> Yes, I'm here. I will reach out to him tomorrow. All right. Thank you, ma'am. >> You're welcome. 3 00:02:28.959 --> 00:03:25.680 >> You're welcome. Hey, Commissioner Kelly just joined. >> Sorry, my I was having technical difficulties. I'm here. >> I will go and get started. So 3A, we got uh our annual citywide chlorine 4 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:44.080 flush. Um that's uh something we do annually from uh July 9th through July 30th. There's going to be a slight uh chlorine odor and taste to the uh to the city's water supply. uh 3B. Uh our June 10th Junth 5 00:03:44.080 --> 00:04:01.200 celebration starts at 2:00 p.m. Saturday, June 20th at Sarah Sims Park, 209 Northwest 9th Court. Uh June 22nd, we have cocktail party and lecture in honor of America's 250th anniversary. That's going to be in room 115. 6 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:17.239 Uh >> Dan, um pardon me, that is no longer happening. >> Okay. Can we remove it from the uh agenda? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. 7 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:34.240 And then 4th of July, America's 250th anniversary celebration at Inter Coastal Park. That's our annual fireworks display. So, should be uh should be pretty fun. Four, public audience. Five. Andrew, can you bring up the uh advisory 8 00:04:34.240 --> 00:05:00.479 board appointments, please, sir? All right. So, uh, Mayor Shelton, you have the building board of adjustment appeals appointment for George Vellesquez. I pronounced that correctly. >> Do any of these require any waivers, 9 00:05:00.479 --> 00:05:20.240 Tammy? >> They do not. Okay. >> Okay. >> You also tabled your appointment last week, mayor. >> Yes. For the library. Any other applicants come in since then? 10 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:38.960 >> No, that have not. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Do you want to keep Do you want to keep that table? >> We will say no. We will keep it tabled. So, I would remove it from the agenda. So, I just want so I'm super excited. So, Faith Francis, who is um one of the 11 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:53.680 education and youth advis advisory board applicants, she's a student at Point Beach High School and is on their um on their aerospace. She's the actually I think she's she is the um the like the 12 00:05:53.680 --> 00:06:11.520 school council president for um just for um the aerospace program. Um, and so she is a um I'm so I'm excited to see that she's getting involved. I was trying to encourage her um to do this. So um I'm happy to see 13 00:06:11.520 --> 00:06:27.680 her um that she applied. So >> Okay. So are you saying you would like for the mayor to consider Faith Francis? >> I would like her to consider that. Yeah. Well, I think that's the only student applicant, so hopefully 14 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:55.919 >> um that'll >> okay. I'll talk to the mayor about that um behind >> Okay. >> those doors or offline and then we'll go from there. >> No worries. >> Hey, Andrew. Yeah, 15 00:06:55.919 --> 00:07:13.680 >> Andrew, can you hear me? Um, yeah. The Chamber of Commerce, uh, the CEO Rick Maharaj, can we add him on, uh, under the presentations as a 3C so he can do a fivem minute presentation 16 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:35.599 on the chamber of commerce and what they bring to the uh to the city and our partnership. >> Yep. and he'll he'll be at the uh he'll be at the commission meeting. >> Good to go. >> Yep. >> All right. 17 00:07:35.599 --> 00:07:52.000 All right. Moving to uh consent. We have one item which is uh Serest Sound. They are asking for a utility ease easement encroachment agreement. Um, this is uh fairly standard for a lot of our uh developments. They're going to be 18 00:07:52.000 --> 00:08:05.759 installing storm water pipes crossing the 12T utility easement dedicated to the city. So, we'll be entering into a agreement. Any damage they do, they'll be ultimately responsible for during that process. So, 19 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:27.759 go and scroll down to uh 7A. Andrew. All right. 7A. This is going to uh be environmental systems research institute exempt from competitive competitive building. This is our um GIS software subscriptions and 20 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:42.880 it's going to be a $60,000 per year subscription not to exceed $100,000. It's going to be for a total of three-year term not to exceed $300,000 in aggregate. So, this is our software that we need for all of our uh GIS um 21 00:08:42.880 --> 00:08:59.040 employees to use. 7B going to be uh an amendment to the agreement between the city of Boon Beach and C4 rents. This is all of our rental equipment that our event staff use. Again, this is a annual expenditure and this is not to 22 00:08:59.040 --> 00:09:15.600 exceed $200,000. 7C going to be a piggyback agreement and the gift that keeps on giving. If you guys remember, we had one of our large tillers that we essentially sold on the secondary market and we took a fairly 23 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:33.519 significant write down. Uh this chiller is replacing that chiller, but it has a smaller capacity. So, um it's going to be able to do what we needed the uh other chiller to do, but from a capacity standpoint, it's it's more realistic 24 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:53.920 versus what we had that was supposed to be built for all of Town Square. 7D going to be a mutual termination agreement. Uh um Chief Julio on I'm on Dan. 25 00:09:53.920 --> 00:10:08.399 >> Chief, you want to talk about the uh next two items with the drones? >> Yeah, absolutely. Uh so the termination agreement is with Flock. Um that's in reference to the drone first responder. Um if you remember over a year ago we 26 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:24.640 entered into a contract with Flock for their drone first responder and uh unfortunately uh due to uh issues with uh the ability to get a uh an operational drone uh we decided it'd be 27 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:40.480 in the best interest of the police department and the the city if we uh terminate the contract with Flock because we don't see it being uh uh flightw worthy probably anytime soon. Uh so the next item would be the Axon uh 28 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:57.040 agreement uh with SkyO and it's to enter an agreement with SkyO to purchase uh their drone first responders. The difference in the program is we would be purchasing three drones uh one for the building department. Um, we would also 29 00:10:57.040 --> 00:11:13.640 not incur any payment until October 1st of 2027. And additionally, we would get some uh software for efficiency in communications that allows uh real-time 911 data to be transferred over to the RTCC. 30 00:11:18.880 --> 00:11:36.880 >> All right. Thanks, Chief. You got it. All right. So, uh 7F, this is going to uh be renewal amendments for RFPs, bids, and piggybacks. This is fairly standard that we see on, uh the majority of our um 31 00:11:36.880 --> 00:11:56.880 consent bids. Do you want to open those up, Andrew? How many total do we have on there? Scroll. So, we got one, two, just two. That one's computer equipment. That's for the um city's computers 32 00:11:56.880 --> 00:12:14.639 and then the command counseling annual expenditure for 157,000 and that's um Maria Guma's uh organization, right, Chief? >> That's correct, Dan. >> Yes. >> Counseling. 33 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:36.920 >> And that's a split that's a split expense between fire and PD, right? >> That's correct. >> Thank you. Um, can you do me a favor? Um, pull that item until I can talk with both the chiefs. 34 00:12:42.639 --> 00:13:03.519 >> Andrew, did you hear me? >> Yes. Yeah, we can always put that on for the uh next uh commission meeting. I just have some questions. All right, scroll down 35 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:25.600 to uh ADA. All right. This is uh the standard. Whenever the CRA is entering into agreement and some of these uh parcels, we're selling for less than fair market value. The city needs to uh approve these residential infield lots for the 36 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:42.480 affordable workforce housing. This is a nine LAR properties that we're dealing with on the CRA side. I believe it's 419 North Serest and there's I believe a total of nine. So uh 8B it's going to be a first reading 37 00:13:42.480 --> 00:14:14.839 ordinance of the city for the downtown transit orient uh district. This is overlay and it removes l removes language. And if you guys remember, >> scroll down on the agenda. Good. Can you go back up for me, Andrew? 38 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:32.160 All right. So, uh, 8B, this is, uh, this is going to be for the micro units. I don't know if, uh, we remember we were having some issues with, uh, some of our developments creating, um, I want to say Commissioner Cruz brought it up and Vice Mayor 39 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:47.120 Turkin. So, this is the density allowance of units at 750 square ft or less to count as 1/ half a unit, as well as general cleanup of the overall article. >> Hold on one second. Can we get some clar 40 00:14:47.120 --> 00:15:04.560 clarification on this? So, it's going to remove language in regards to density allowance of units of 70 750 square ft or less to count as 1/2. So, it's going to remove that language. 41 00:15:04.560 --> 00:15:21.440 So, then that unit will be a full unit or what's the uh I'm just h I'm having trouble understanding. I just want to make sure this isn't the inverted of what we're trying to do. No, my understanding is one total unit is going to be be at least 1,500 square 42 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:37.120 feet as far as like what it said less count as one half. Gabe, are you on >> for Amanda? >> Yes, sir. >> Amanda's on Amanda's on vacation. Gabe, can you go into the details for vice mayor on this uh particular ordinance? >> I can. So, in essence, by removing this 43 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:52.399 that each unit will count as the the the same as any other unit. Uh therefore the the goal is to encourage that um you would still want to come in with a thousand square foot or 750 are still using the same density count. So it should make the developments a little 44 00:15:52.399 --> 00:16:17.360 bit more fair and equitable across the board. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes sir. All right. 8D is going to be the first reading of ordinance. City commission >> we're on C. Oh yeah, 45 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:34.000 >> my apologies. >> No worries. >> Um Gabe, you want to take uh the rest of the uh the ordinance that are um related to planning and zoning? >> Yes, sir. Uh so 8C um this one is for external uh lighting standards. 46 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:49.759 Currently, there's two different measures of relief. one being a waiver which is done by the city engineer. Um and so that's the one that we're focusing on. So this is just a general cleanup. Um so that way when application comes in we can give them clear advice on that one. 47 00:16:49.759 --> 00:17:08.079 8 D is the first reading as well for this one's a little bit bigger. It's the marina overlay um that we're introducing at the recommendation from commission. Uh so we have drafted the land development regulations um for that. Uh within the pack it does have the uh map 48 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:48.080 and as well as all the uh projected language um for that overlay. Can we see the map Please, >> how far south does it go? >> You zoom out a little bit so she can see 49 00:17:48.080 --> 00:18:09.360 the whole map. Oh, there we go. Okay, >> there you go. >> Thank you. >> It looks goes up the gateway to the north and I can't see that. >> Is that our entire >> So, is that our entire city almost our 50 00:18:09.360 --> 00:18:33.360 entire city limit of inter coastal? Is that what the intention is? >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I go back to the agenda >> and E and F uh are in general the same 51 00:18:33.360 --> 00:18:46.960 uh project. This is for the >> Gabe. I think we need to flip these two because I think they're inverse of each other. >> They do definitely for the second reading for sure. um because staff is going to request for uh ADF to be tabled 52 00:18:46.960 --> 00:19:05.280 to the second reading um for the uh approval of the abandonment. Um so this is a site plan for the Pence Park uh application consisting of multi-purpose fields, office storage, and then there's an abandonment of Southeast Fifth Avenue 53 00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:22.559 and six Southeast 6th Avenue. Uh so that's why uh with the abandonment is the ordinance. Um so it would take two readings. So staff will be requesting that uh AE be tabled uh for that second reading as the abandonment has to be approved uh in order to approve the site 54 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:42.000 plan. >> I know vice mayor probably has um questions in relation to uh these two items. No, I mean me and Kevin met and Andrew and you know I'm happy to see the changes. 55 00:19:42.000 --> 00:20:08.559 >> Okay. >> Scroll down. Andrew. Okay. Is Shauna on? >> I'm here. >> You want to go over uh you >> uh It's a Yes. This is the second reading of the ordinance and actually interestingly I have a law review 56 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:23.760 article that came out which I shared with the commission and I'm adding it as backup which independently supports what we're trying to do and how the way we are doing it is actually very conservative 57 00:20:23.760 --> 00:20:44.880 and uh I think it satisfies what we're trying to do. All righty. The last two are going to be second readings and no changes to these. This just involves the uh the essentially the fire chief being able to 58 00:20:44.880 --> 00:21:00.400 port his pension over to the general employees pension and gives the opt out. And that's also allowable under uh state statute. So I do have to reach out to the pension attorney, Bonnie Jensen. So, I'll probably be reaching out her out to her tomorrow in regards to a few 59 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:21.039 questions. If there's any changes, I'll uh I'll let legal know and um if we have to table these two items, we'll table them. All right. Uh no city manager report on this uh this agenda. Uh tent tent A. Um, 60 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:38.400 if you guys remember, we brought this uh item uh probably about a year and a half ago. And I'll uh I'll let Shauna speak on it. Essentially, this was kind of it was looked at as >> actually Andrew years ago. 61 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:54.880 >> Yeah, >> this was brought at on an agenda review. We were asked to bring this in April. So this is not at the city attorney's request, >> but correct. The commission request us 62 00:21:54.880 --> 00:22:10.240 to bring this back. So we're bringing this back. This will codify all the different pars uh resolutions and things that give the city manager signature authority. So again, this is just codifying what he currently has and cleaning up some other stuff. Um I do 63 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:29.039 have information if you have any questions. We can go over it oneon one if you want to give me a call. Okay. Allan, are you on? You want to go over uh 10B? >> I cannot see it. Sorry. >> That's the one for your Bank of America. 64 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:46.080 >> 10 10B is your approval of the umbrella agreement for government banking services with Bank of America. >> But so this one is I've been working with Andrew R who's going to speak to the the specific procurement uh statutes because I get confused, I'll be honest. But the bottom line is um Bank of 65 00:22:46.080 --> 00:23:02.240 America through our ERP conversion um they are critical for us to be successful in forward on the bank reconciliation. So and then we could not find an appropriate piggyback so we were looking for a waiver. Correct Andrew? >> Yep that's absolutely correct. So we 66 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:17.600 looked at the contract, realized that um we were not piggybacking the contract. So we pivoted and we have to request a procurement waiver um accordance with in accordance with the policy. We need to take it to you guys and present it as a regular agenda item um for your 67 00:23:17.600 --> 00:23:36.280 approval. And the rates and everything we're going to basically be charged are outlined within the agenda item if it's clicked on. Um so if there's any questions about that, that's all there. Any questions or concerns? 68 00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:52.240 >> And our rate was held flat. Correct. Uh our rate was held flat and we're getting a credit. Correct, Andrew? >> Yeah, we're getting a credit. We're, you know, Allan worked at a really good deal. We're getting a credit $30,000. Um and our rates, well, there's a couple 69 00:23:52.240 --> 00:24:10.880 rates in here, Allen, but um you know, once we transfer the the 10.8 28 million. We're going to I think it's the 2.75 is what it is. Again, it's all outlined in the uh in the agenda item. Um we increase the um the uh month the 70 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:34.559 the fee structure increases the the 422, but with the interest, you know, we're not going to pay anything. We just have to present it to you as a waiver per the procurement policy. All right, that uh concludes that concludes tonight's uh agenda review, guys. I know there's a lot of um public 71 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:51.440 hearing items, but quite a few of those are going to be second readings. So, it's a lot of uh a lot of items that have been in the work for uh quite some time. Uh if there's any other further questions or items not on the agenda that there's questions to, just feel free. 72 00:24:51.440 --> 00:25:13.440 Do we have any anticipated dates for the uh future agenda items? I don't have any updates for you, but what I can do, I can get with staff tomorrow, vice mayor, and I can try to iron down some of these dates. I know a lot of times whenever I go back and I 73 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:30.960 speak with staff, uh most of the time it's because we haven't been able to sit down with you guys one- on- one to get a discussion and actually bring it back for further direction from the uh dis as a whole. So tomorrow I'll do the same thing and see what we need. If that's 74 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:46.480 not needed, I'll make sure we'll definitely get some uh um dates um attached to those uh specific items. Yeah, because I see like pending date from city commission to discuss. So like reading that it seems like it's the 75 00:25:46.480 --> 00:26:02.000 ownership and accountability is on me to ask you guys to discuss these items which you know you get consensus from the dis and you know I don't know if you want clarification but feel free to reach out to me for that. That way it 76 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:18.159 just doesn't sit on the agenda because the way I read it is like if you guys are waiting on me, you mean you already know where you already know have interest in this item because I'm asking the body to get it. And so I think the followup should be staff. Hey, when do 77 00:26:18.159 --> 00:26:35.919 you want to meet or what questions you have for me? I'm more than happy to pick up the phone call. >> Um with the with the >> Well, I I think this is more of we were waiting for the board to have a discussion. I I don't remember having So also good point. So then do you guys 78 00:26:35.919 --> 00:26:52.720 want us to be like hey we're going to have this discussion on this date because typically in the past and I don't know when this changed is when we agree on an discussion topic you guys will add it on to the agenda you know under regular agenda where it says discussion about XYZ. 79 00:26:52.720 --> 00:27:11.520 >> No you're you're you're right. That's how how we do business. You're correct. So, I'm just wondering when when did why did we change? What changed? >> Or I'm just a little confused. >> No, you're you're you're you're correct. That's on us. I'll uh I'll get with 80 00:27:11.520 --> 00:27:28.480 staff tomorrow and I'll I'll uh I'll take care of it and I'll uh I'll make sure I get back to each one of you guys so you uh you understand if there's any issues there that we need on staff's side and we'll bring the discussion back and make sure it's put on put on the uh regular agenda. 81 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:44.880 What? One clarification that I have is that's happening here is when they when when it's brought up at the commission meeting about requesting a discussion and it's a discussion amongst the commission and then we add it to the future agenda, but the discussions aren't happening. So when we add a 82 00:27:44.880 --> 00:28:00.559 discussion, we really need it to be date certain then so that we have it and then we're moving it to the agenda when they want to have that discussion. So that's what this means is whenever the commission tells us to move it off of the future agenda to a date certain that's what we int intend to do. So for 83 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:17.360 >> all respect time time out time out it has never been like that. It has never been like that unless that's something new and I would bet that if it is something new it has not been communicated. I don't I have never received an email saying hey you guys 84 00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:33.360 off the future. But when was that communicated? No, listen. It hasn't been communicated. >> That rests with me. I'll take care of it tomorrow and I will get back with you guys. You're correct. We're not we're 85 00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:50.080 incorrect. So, that has not changed. >> And can we just >> But these are these are these are the these are I mean, with all due respect, you know, these are legislative things, right? Which is our responsibility. So when I hear that 86 00:28:50.080 --> 00:29:06.799 we're we're discussing and we're taking the proper procedure where you're having consensus from the legislative body of the city and then that gets held up in some brand new procedural administration instruction that nobody knows about. That's a that with all due respect, 87 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:23.440 that's quite the undermine to then just assume that we're going to do that because if we're sitting there discussing and we say, "Hey, we want to discuss this. Do I have consensus?" And the body says yes or no. If it's no, then it is what it is. But if it's yes, 88 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:40.960 I mean, we've always just added it as a discussion item. >> Yeah. No, I don't. And I'll get with uh Andrew offline, but I know this future agenda items list. It was I I remember it being almost down to Z at one point. 89 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:58.480 >> And as you can see, we're at ABC, C, and D. And I know, Vice Mayor, these are all your items. I will get with staff tomorrow. I will get back to you offline. And there is no intentional undermining at all. Like, trust me, staff wants to get >> How long has the beautifification board 90 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:15.840 been on the agenda? >> I don't I don't I I can't give you a uh a time frame, but I know >> over a year. >> Yeah, I I I I believe it has been over a year. >> So, if you want if you want like, "Hey, here's me saying, can we please have 91 00:30:15.840 --> 00:30:31.840 this as a discussion item?" Right. And I And some of these I've talked to Adam about I know and Andrew um from procurement. I know they're working on this diligently and so, you know, I understand that. But when you have something on here for a year, you know, 92 00:30:31.840 --> 00:30:47.520 and and we went back, I think maybe three or four months ago, we said, "Hey, you know, let's clean this up." Dan, you wanted to clean it up when it was at Z. And we cleaned it up. And you asked the commission what they wanted, what they didn't want. And you had recommendations on staff's behalf saying, "Well, I want 93 00:30:47.520 --> 00:31:02.480 to keep the beautifification board. That was your recommendation. We agreed." and then still sitting here idle. You know, I just want to make sure that like we're not, you know, we're not just kicking the can down the road on the legislative 94 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:22.240 items. >> No, no, not at all. Not at all. That's on our intent. And if it feels like that, then like it definitely definitely not our intent at all on the staff side. But I'll uh if if we can get one of 95 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:39.279 these items off and put it on um the agenda for this uh meeting, we'll definitely do that. >> Well, I don't want it to be done hastily, right? Because I'm >> No, no, it won't. Some of them may already be ready. >> Working on X, Y, and Z. And you know, I understand you guys are doing your due diligence, but then when I ask about it 96 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:55.760 and I hear tonight that it's, oh, we're just waiting for the commission to put that on there, it's like, okay, so this that what that communicates is that this could be perceived as this item's just been sitting there and no one's been working on it because there's a miscommunication that 97 00:31:55.760 --> 00:32:16.240 staff is waiting on us to put this on the agenda, which is not how we've done that. So essentially, you just have all these items just sitting in a queue. Is the way is that's the perception that I'm getting based on what I've been informed. >> Yeah, I'm going to I'll get some further 98 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:34.159 clarification, but that that definitely is not our intent. like we we bust our butts trying to make sure that we get a lot a lot of stuff across the uh the finish line, but these future agenda items, there may be some lingering questions out there. And I know with the 99 00:32:34.159 --> 00:32:51.519 uh especially the last couple of weeks or last month, we've been concentrating on some larger macro items, but I'll uh I'll get with staff tomorrow to clear it up. But no intent to undermine, no intent to uh to delay these. So I but I will see what the uh what the holdup is. 100 00:32:51.519 --> 00:33:08.559 >> So so what so just so I know right. So what do we need to do moving forward? Do I need to say hey at at the next commission meeting move this up as a discussion item? Is staff ready to have that res research? Because I would imagine staff would be like okay we got the research we have a couple options 101 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:25.840 now we're going to bring it for discussion. I I just want to know that I want to know what you guys need from me because it seems to be changing. So I want to make sure that you know I eliminate any barrier that there is. >> Andrew, is there anything you're looking for as far as direction? 102 00:33:25.840 --> 00:33:41.120 Maybe we can talk offline and just to get clarity on how that process works because one of the problems I'm having is if things are getting brought up at the commission for a discussion by the dis but I'm not you know some and maybe 103 00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:57.440 this particular one is not the one I'm thinking about but there's times that when they get added we're waiting for you guys you I want to talk about this with my colleagues at the next meeting or in the future and but we don't put it back on for to have that discussion to get consensus on what the next steps 104 00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:12.960 are. So that's that's what kind of what I'm alluding to is that we need to kind of circle back on when we're adding it to the agenda at the meeting when it's being added. If we have it to be a date certain or we want this brought back in two months after uh staff does the 105 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:28.079 research, you know, I think we just need to make sure we're all talking the same nomenclature. So I I think that's part of the problem and and we'll we'll make sure we you and I and Adam get together and we'll clarify how all this is going to work for sure. >> Right. So So nothing's sitting because I 106 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:44.000 agree that's part of the problem is sometimes that happened before where we thought we were waiting for the commission to have a initial discussion and then unfortunately you know we're waiting to have that and then it just lingers. So that that's definitely something we got to iron out because I 107 00:34:44.000 --> 00:35:00.800 have a little bit of confusion on that for sure. >> Okay. Yeah, I think I think uh it would be helpful like if we can just give an example like item item B for the task force like uh in the future if we can um ask for like a date certain for you guys 108 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:16.160 to have the discussion because that way we understand if there's anything that staff needs to do to prepare for it um we would know after that meeting. So, we can do the task we can do the task force item in in one of the next couple of meetings. Um, that that's going to be a 109 00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:32.960 largely a commission uh item because the commission uh forms task forces, they they they decide what the what the limited scope of the task force is. Um, and if there's anything that staff needs to do, um, you know, we'll be able to be prepared. So, that that one we can we 110 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:48.720 can bring pretty soon. >> Okay. Um, so then let me just let me just clarify that way there's no mixup moving forward. If I ever bring up something on the dis for an idea, legislative update, whatever, right? I >> my my my 111 00:35:48.720 --> 00:36:04.240 I would say if staff isn't doing any research, then I would want that on the next agenda item. >> So then we have that. >> I guess I guess my question but usually staff will will call, hey, here's what's going on. What are you looking for? I'll 112 00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:20.000 say it and then, you know, they'll reach out to others or they'll present something with some information, we'll collaborate, we'll discuss and then we go from there. Historically, that's how it's always been. So, just just know that if I'm asking 113 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:36.720 for something, let's and it's you guys just want a discussion and if there's consensus amongst my colleagues, then bring it on the next agenda. >> Okay. All right. I the the the the the tough part for me is like sometimes you're having a discussion within your colleagues and then we get work after 114 00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:51.760 that. That's the part where I'm kind of lost a little bit because like we may not have a like you they want a consensus to have the discussion to talk about it but there was been no formal direction given that that's where the the breakdowns kind of happening for me. 115 00:36:51.760 --> 00:37:08.400 >> Okay. So then then then I think we should go back to what it used to be, you know, a year or two ago was we request something and then it automatically gets moved on the agenda as a discussion item. >> Like it I mean that's how it's always been. >> Okay, 116 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:31.960 >> that would that would solve it for sure. >> Okay. We we'll circle back and make sure we put something in writing so to kind of solidify so we're all on the same page. So we definitely make sure it's done correctly. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> All right. 117 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:46.680 >> Hey guys, is there anything else? >> No. No. >> All righty. All right, everyone. Have a good night. >> Good night. Thank you. >> Yep.