Want to do the pledge? I got it. We'll start in just a few minutes. Board member Turkin is going to be here momentarily. Good morning everybody. Thank you so much for coming. Today is Saturday, November 8th, 2025. The time is now 9:07
a.m. and the special joint workshop of the Boon Beach Community Redevelopment Agency Board and the City of Boon Beach Commission is now called to order. Let's proceed to the invocation led by board member Haye followed by the pledge of allegiance led by board member Cruz. Let's all stand for the invocation and the pledge of allegiance.
Lord, we thank you for this day and this opportunity to once again to come together and dialogue about the future improvements to our city. We thank you for this combined meeting of CRA and
commissioners. And we pray, Father, that we remember that it's not just about policies and projects, but it's about families and people. And as we make decision, we ask that you be in the midst of all of our decisions. We ask it
all in your name. We pray. Amen. >> Amen. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. >> Thank you everybody. Let me turn to Deputy City Clerk Tammy Stanza. Stanzion, if you could please begin the roll call. >> Chair Shelton, >> present. >> Vice Chair Haye, >> present. >> Board member Cruz, >> present. >> Board member Turkin,
>> present. >> Board member Kelly >> here. >> Chair, you have a quorum. >> Thank you. We are now moving on to additions, deletions, corrections to the agenda. Let's begin to my right with board member Cruz. >> Uh, none for me. Thank you. >> And board member Haye. >> Nothing. >> Board member Kelly.
>> Uh, chair. Yes. Can I I wanted to just very briefly um because we have a meeting coming up on Monday. We had an uh a recent issue come up with a parking issue at the pier site and I was talking to Katherine and she said it would be a
simple fix of our part of our agreement with them. And so I wanted to get a consensus that Katherine can come back to us on Monday um with that proposed change so that we can uh reserve some of those parking spots for the business uh
customers. Um we're getting a lot of uh construction employees parking there and preventing um parking. So, I just want to get a consensus um today to direct Katherine to uh to change that language or provide us some uh you know
information on that on Monday. >> Yes. Do we want to designate a specific number of parking spots so it's clear and concise? >> I think that's something that we would collaborate with the business owner. I don't make that decision. I don't
operate that that restaurant. And uh >> I think maybe we allow Katherine to go negotiate and bring something back to this board for Tuesday or hopefully >> I'm assuming that's what your intention is. >> Yes. >> Yes, I would agree with that >> because it would be my understanding
it's a simple um fix to just allow them to reserve parking um in their parking lot during business hours because that's the time that they're having an issue. So >> yeah, those guys are out there now, >> right? So, >> okay. >> And do you have any commission uh board
member Turkin? Do you have any additions, deletions, anything? >> Uh, nothing new. >> Thank you. >> Do we have a motion to approve the agenda? >> So, move. >> Second. >> We have a motion to approve and a second. All those in favor say I.
>> I. I. Post say nay. >> Motion passes unanimously. Um, let's move on to legal. Council, are there any legal items to discuss? Uh, thank you, board chair Katherine Ross Mill, Lewis Longman, Walker. No legal items except I'll take your direction to bring something back for you to
consider. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Now, let's beginformational items and disclosures by board members in CRA. Let's begin on my left with board member Turkin. >> Nothing. Mayor >> and board member Kelly. >> No. Thank you, chair. >> And board member Haye. >> Nothing. >> And board member Cruz.
>> Thank you. >> And I have nothing. Let's move on to the next portion of the agenda, which is public comments. The public comment section of the meeting is for public comment on all items on the agenda or items that are not on the agenda. Each speak each speaker will be given a total of three minutes to
comment on all items on the agenda. However, the board retains the right to increase or decrease three-minute limit prior to the start of public comment. Each public speaker shall be given the same number of minutes unless it becomes necessary to terminate a speaker's comments in order to maintain orderly conduct and proper decorum in the public meeting. Persons making public comment
may not assign or donate their public time to any individual to allow that other individual time to comment. However, any persons requiring assistance will be accommodated as required by the American Disabilities Act prior to addressing the board. Speakers present at the meeting will go to the podium to make their comments and speakers participating virtually will
unmute their device at the time requested. Speakers may be asked to state their name and address for the record and provide any person may provide written comments to the board prior to the board meeting. And you're on deck, Miss Oyer. >> Okay. Thank you, Susan Oyer Boon Beach.
And we don't actually have to give our addresses by law anymore. So, you only have to state your your city. Um, I I'm here to talk about a few things. First of all, um, I think under your your plans, I What is the status on that
special utilities building that was built that is supposed to power all of downtown and bring us tons of money and lots of cheap, free, easy power and um, is it on deck? Is it running? We never hear about it yet. this the residents
our taxes spent millions and millions of dollars building that over where the um police substation is here right across the street and that utility was supposed to run everything downtown like they apparently it does in Jacksonville it's supposed to be super cheap easy almost
free power and what is the status and why are we never hearing about it and where's the money going and you know I think that's worth looking at as you look at your comp plans because that was supposed to power the whole downtown and all these incoming apartment buildings that none of us want. So, I think that's
worth discussing and looking at. Yay. Dan's so excited. I walked up here this morning with this, huh? And you didn't even know about it. That tells me a lot about this the status of this building that we spent millions of dollars on. Um, when you're looking at
your strategic plans and how you're going forward, what are your beautifification goals? I've said this for years and years and years. The number one goal of the businesses and CRA did this survey. The number one thing the businesses in this city want is beautifification. There's been a
delay on the beautifification board. I know you're moving forward with it because Dan and I talk about it. You know, I send you stuff all the time as a commission, but where are we going? That needs to be part of your goals. What is the status of the Avenue of the Arts? We are in one of the original art cities.
We should be promoting this. This used to be an economic development driver. We used to have tour groups come in and we would have tours up and down Ocean Avenue of our art. This is not happening anymore. And that's that's an easy money maker. We need to be focusing on
Connecticut, which is what sets us apart and makes us different than every other city. Um, and kind of on the city side of things that your tree ordinance is not being enforced because there's trees all up and down my street that are growing into all the sorted lines and
code does nothing to them. So get code out there to deal with the tree problem and make sure you're taking the train out of your comprehensive plan out of any and every plan. There is no train coming. Let's get it the heck out. Let's stop trying to define building and
development in this city around a train that we're never going to get because we don't want it and we did not get it assigned to us. And so let's please take all that out and thank you for your time this morning. Thank you. Next, please.
Cindy Falco decaro decaron beach. Um, I thought this was going to be a strategic planning because the last time we had one, it was actually a different kind of venue where they showed us kind of the ideas and we were able to impart and talk and it was more not in a business forum. It was more community-minded
where we were able to address and speak to the different parties and persons and it was more free flow. I didn't realize it was going to end up like a regular meeting. But my concerns are for the future of Buon Beach as I have a home here. And um I that's very perplexing to
me as well, Susan, hearing that that we spend all this money plus the money we spent over here and for this building and $42 million that was stolen. I mean, it's just on and on and on. And where are we at with the $42 million that was stolen by the last regime? And I call it
a regime because it was a hijack of our dollars, of our city, and of everything. And we had planned this strategic u idea out months and months and years and years and and I thought we had come to a resolve and to find out we're back to square one and now we have other expenditures and things that I mean when
is this going to be built next to us? Who owns it? Do we own it? What are we doing with it? Um how are we building the businesses? And I don't know if you've seen that monstrosity of a building that they bought, that apartment complex they're building. Every time I drive by it and I even try to look inside of it, it's just concrete everywhere. I mean, I don't even know
how people are going to live there. It it looks like a compound, a jail compound to be honest with you. Has anybody went out there and looked at it? Have you looked at the construction of this place? It is hideous. I mean, we have I know it was the other regime, and I call them a regime because that's what they were. They took over our city, and
now we look like we are not beautified as as Susan was talking about. I drive around. I'm a floral floral designer. I'm a floral artist. And I look and I go, where is the beauty? Even coming off of I 95. It's disgusting. I It's really an eyesore. And I grieve because I spent a lot of money to keep
my home beautiful and I spent a lot of money in taxes which just went up again and we have nothing to show for it but more ugliness. And I'm sorry but I think District 2, they look beautiful. We look like we're like been the redheaded stepchild. What is going on? And why
isn't this city spending its money, time, and energy and making it beautiful, making it a place for tourism? making it a place that you want to come to instead of some place that you repel and do not want to come to because you never know when you're going to be attacked by a police officer. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Anyone else for public comment? >> Mayor, I I do want to take a moment just to address the utility plant aspect that was brought up. >> That that's the chiller plant, Susan. And that was designed to provide cheaper >> air conditioning essentially to all of
the downtown buildings. When Town Square happened, we went into litigation and when we were in the process of negotiating with Time Equities, who's now going to build our new Town Square, they did not see the necessity of using
that and that was the reason why that was not used in the future downtown plans. >> Yeah. And I think that's unrelated to a utilities department. That was uh from my understanding I think that was Colin
Gra's baby in the previous administration where I think we have yet to identify the logic behind that initiative or see any form of return. >> Yeah. >> It's just to get awards. >> Yeah. So I think there's uh I think if you if you look there's something there
that you know could or couldn't be nefarious. Not saying is or isn't, but I definitely think those concerns are are uh you know, I I think there's something there, but I unrelated to utilities. >> Yeah, you you guys were exactly you're you're correct. I just want to say that.
But I I right now that chiller plant serves probably about 10 to 15% of its capacity. the private aspect. Town square was not built and you're left with the public aspect of it which obviously there's no Avalor revenue coming in from public buildings. So,
>> and we have offered to have >> developers use it and and build into it. And my understanding is that when it comes the only the only really use um that makes sense for using a type of chiller plant like we have is a hotel
that doesn't have individual air conditioning systems because that's you know developers don't want to use a chiller plant for air conditioning because as you know like this entire building will go out and um and they can't have that when you're when you're
talking about individual um tenants. So um I know we have I know staff is every development that comes in that's a conversation that is had on we have this available and you can tap into this and there's really not a lot of interest. So it's unfortunate. It is a I think it's a
it's a pain in everyone's side that's sitting up here that we have this chiller plant that is not being utilized um because we got some awards for it and spent a lot of money. Um, but like you know, you said, Commissioner Jurgen, it was, you know, somebody's baby and and we're all and we're all stuck with this.
So, so those are my thoughts on that. So, thank you. Sorry to interrupt the meeting. >> Anyone else? >> Okay, seeing that there are no old agenda items, let's move on to the items under new business. The first item for
discussion and consideration is the discussion and consideration of overall visioning of the CRA. So, Mr. TAC like to >> Good morning uh city commission and CRA board. Tim Tac, acting executive director.
>> Is that on? >> Yeah, it's on. >> I'm just not talking into it maybe. Is that better? Uh so at the September 18th, 2025 special joint meeting, uh the city commission and the CRA board called for a SP uh special joint workshop,
which is today, to discuss the overall visioning. Uh it's open to your discussion. um wherever you guys would like to go and discuss and um we're looking at possibly the CRA plan properties for acquisition or our goals and an approach to property acquisition
within the CRA. So um it's up for your discussion and consideration. >> Um yeah, I'll start with um some of the vision component of the discussion. you know, as we've been discussing over the last maybe eight months about
establishing, you know, uh a switch to focus on waterfront, commercial development, recreational, um marina facilities. I'd like to uh get consensus to have
staff research in creation creating a uh marina overlay district. Um that way we can establish a clear uh clear vision of what we want to accomplish regulatory uh framework
surrounding uh our marina now any potential CRA or city-owned properties so that we could position this district as an economic driver for the city. So would like to have staff explore any opportunities
um that would attract support marine related businesses uh that fit our strategic plan as along with our CRA plan which is the enhancement of waterfront access commercial waterfront and then the
expansion of marine recreational. It's identified in a strategic plan. It's identified in our CRA plan. What I'm looking for is that we just have that in our land use as well as a as a an actual overlay. In conjunction with that, I would like
to know what we how do we define waterfront property because I've heard a lot of talk about over on 13th uh Avenue, Northwest 13th Avenue, uh that that is uh being talked about as
possible waterfront property. And I want to make sure that we're all on the same page before we move further. uh with defining what is waterfront property because a lot of these people have been living there for 50 60 years
and uh if you go with the waterfront definition which I have no objection to uh that could mean that the their property and taxes uh will go up and many of those are senior citizens. So we
need to be careful uh when we start assessing uh property values and and what is waterfront and what is not. So if we're talking about in a coastal fine no problem >> but uh we need to be careful when we
when we go in land. That's that's my concern. >> Yeah. for clarification. Um what what I'm looking for is the inter coastal waterway a uh marine overlay district at that site. Um
that I don't know it laptop just crashed. Um yeah, I'm not that is a good point because water waterfront as you know in real estate could be like a little pond, right? You could advertise a house as a waterfront property and there's like a little pond in front of it or a lake. So, um yeah, for
clarification, I am I am uh envisioning the uh the inter coastal waterway for that for that overlay district. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Uh I would like to ask this question uh
for my clarification. Um I I I have the agenda in front of me. But what are we looking to come out of here as a u product today in terms of uh why we're here? The purpose of this
meeting um what are the uh outcomes? Uh what is what what is this meeting all about? I I think um I think when we look at the agenda item, it seems that it has been consolidated with a few different discussion items. I know one of those
was land acquisitions that um Commissioner Cruz had discussed about looking at, hey, we're purchasing these properties. Why? What's our vision like strategically so that we're not just purchasing properties to purchase them? If I'm wrong, please correct me,
Commissioner Cruz, but I think that was one of the uh the ideas. The other one was discussion of of what I had just brought up of a waterfront uh district destination commercial and make sure that at least for me my understanding is that city and CRA are
lock in step and and executing and mirroring the CRA and strategic plan and making sure that they have the instruction, the consensus, the resources to then I I would imagine design some form of of plan that um they
could you know bring back. I'm not 100% sure. That's probably you know more a discussion amongst Tim and Dan of what that looks like but my understanding is that there is a few items that have been consolidated and uh been categorized as like the vision of the CRA if I'm not
mistaken. Tim please jump in if I'm wrong. think that maybe we >> are doing this and then we may have to do it again after we put RMA in place after the contract negotiation because that's why we brought them on board as
their vision and and their connections and things that they've already done. So I think that they know things that none of us up here know. Um, so I don't know if it's a little >> I I I think I think that's that's a that's a fair point. And I think the
>> I think I think what Commissioner Haye said about what are we doing here? What are we going to get out of is maybe that's dialogue. Maybe that's a few a few points or a few properties or a few things that are tangible that then when there is a transition to RMA, it can be
easily picked up and uh follow through with a follow-up workshop. That way, we're not just up here talking and that we're moving towards something because I definitely don't want to be here just to have dialogue. I think we need to hone down on, you know, three or
four things. um whether they're properties, whether they're districts, you know, whether they're um you know, discussing the hotel, whatever that may be, and then move forward from there. And then, like the mayor said, follow up with uh another joint workshop. I guess
I'm assuming that's what you're um insinuating, Mayor. >> Possibly. I mean, I think that we're really not going to know until we get him in and sit down. And I think there might be some more efficient ways to do it. We're looking at another joint workshop in the uh beginning of the new
year. So, um timing wise, I I don't think there's going to be an issue with onboarding and getting uh RMA in and then also uh coordinating with the city on whatever that overlay vision would look like, >> right? And at least today we can get our legislative priorities done.
>> Yeah, that's >> so we know what we're doing in Tallahassee. >> That's exactly where I was going with with the this this question. And we're going to be bringing in RMA and I could see having this conversation again.
>> Oh, for sure. >> Are we premature here or >> um are we looking to u see we have a CRA master plan? Uh >> it's >> over the years we've had several of
those master plans that collect dust. So, I'm I'm I'm sort of concerned to the point that we're not here and RMA comes in and change uh everything that we're talking about here this morning because
that's not the direction that he wants to go in. No, I I I I think what we need is to and the the overall uh meaning of this meeting is to give direction to both myself and Tim so we can actually
sit down with RMA and explain what the vision of the board is going to be moving forward from both a CRA and city um vision. >> May I apologize respectfully. Uh if I may clarify for the record that RMA has not officially been put under contract and that is still up for decision-
making. So RMA in this conversation is a standin for whoever ultimately fills the executive director. Right now they're the successful proposer but that is not a completed decision. >> Right. Thank you. >> Vision. >> Right. So I mean when when this came up
um it I think it has it has evolved. I feel like every time we talked about the joint meeting we added something else to it. Um one of the things that that I have brought up many times and we have started the discussion. And I think I think ultimately this is going to be a lot of discussions that we're going to
have especially when we're talking about um writing a new or creating a new um CRA master plan on what our I mean the last one was done in 2016. We're now you know 11 almost years out. Um the vision
you know the city evolves vision changes depending on you know leadership. um but also depending on on the residents and and what they're looking for and who we represent. So um you know one of one of the things that you know has has I don't
want to say worried me or been problematic for me is that we we continue to acquire properties with no plan as to what we're doing. And so I was looking forward to having this meeting to kind of look at, you know, what is what is our vision when we when we purchase um a property. Um you know,
is it is it are we I know some of them can be long-term when you're talking about um you know, purchasing blocks. Some of them are just like that's a great deal. Let's pick it up and see what we can do with it. But when we're sitting on properties for 10 and 15 years, um we're we're coming up against
it seems like it's far away, but 2044 is not so far away when we're sitting on a bunch of of land. Um, and so I'm, you know, I was wanting to start that discussion of are there any of these properties that we
have that we can either, you know, put out to an RFP for um, workforce single family homes or what are we doing with the post office? Um, what, you know, can we start talking about what our vision
is for that for that, you know, that parcel? so that we can then start having that discussion on on what that what that's going to look like. It's one of our main uh corners of uh Seress and Point Beach Boulevard. And so um you
know if that means that then we're having community meetings. I want to start that process instead of just sitting on it and waiting and then the post office moves and then we're having that discussion. So I think this has evolved. I think it started out as a oh great let's sit let's talk about the
properties that we have to then let's uh you know talk about a a waterway marina overlay to let's talk about the um CRA master plan. So I think we've kind of bounced around quite a bit. Um but I I think it's important that we start
having these conversations instead of just continuing to purchase um properties even if it's a single family lot or or something you bigger like the inn. So now we have the inn. What's our plan? Because do we want to sit on on, you know, the $8 million and just sit
and wait. So or do we need to start having community meetings? It's about to be knocked down in in the next 30 to 60 days. Do we need to set some community meetings to talk about what the resident's vision is and what our vision is? Um, and so that was kind of my hope for this meeting is that we would start
having these conversations so that we're we're not just continuing to, you know, go meeting to meeting purchasing land and not really being doing the other part of it. Um, which is which is the development side of it.
And, you know, whoever we do, you know, ultimately bring in as the executive director, I mean, I've had conversations about what my vision is. Um, that we focus on federal highway. Um we have we have neglected federal highway and um and I feel like that is uh something
that we can we can really invest in and put our and and it's in the 2016 CRA plan that we focus on federal highway and yet here we are um with a lot of empty dilapidated blight along Federal
Highway. And so, uh, that was kind of my hope for this meeting, um, is that we could start having this conversation and and that's why we've kind of set this ongoing joint CRA, um, commission meeting is so that we are now starting to do the work because it's difficult to
to do the work um, during our regular meetings. >> Thank you, mayor. Just uh, for clarification, I just want to see if I got consensus to do the uh, marina have staff at least research that portion of
a marina overlay district >> on my end. Yes. Okay. >> And can we get um >> see what that looks like, how the transition happens. >> Can we get some updates from time to time as to what's happening? Sometimes, you know, >> sometimes things start to move forward and and I feel like sometimes
information gets to certain board members, but sometimes not all board members. So, I just want to be mindful of that that as we're, you know, requiring consensus to make the make these type of important decisions that we, you know, keep everybody um in the loop as to what's happening before
decisions are made. Um yeah, thank you. >> And then um I I think I think uh Commissioner Kelly hit it right on the head. I think I I have a proposal. Maybe, you know, as we transition with the new executive director role, maybe it's not a bad idea to have some form of
survey at least to kick off what the Boon Beach vision is because that is gaining a lot of traction through the community. So, I think a survey is is simplistic. It's a start. It's easy. It allows feedback. Um, I can tell you from what I've seen, it's uh people don't want housing, right?
>> Um, you know, definitely entry entryway has been discussed. So, I don't know if uh my colleagues have an appetite to start with a survey. I think it's an easy it's an easy tool to at least start getting some feedback as we uh make that transition. So, I don't know what your
guys' thoughts are on that. And then I know that as the as a CRA, we've adopted that policy to where we can allow um builders to solicit some of these properties to build a single family home. So maybe we capitalize on that,
widen the scope or hone down on that >> on that initiative. >> I've got a lot of um emails and also on my Facebook page, no more apartments. No more apartments. >> Um so I think that that's that's overall, but it's something that's going to make the place look beautiful. That's
the gateway into our downtown. And >> um what's is what's the timeline on this demo? I've I've heard two different times. >> 60 days from now. >> Or was that when it was back? Like is that backdated? >> We're anticipating somewhere between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
>> Okay. >> I have a >> Is that right? Because I was just told late January from I think someone the other day in the city. >> Kevin, do you have an update? >> Come on up, please. >> I just think it's a big moment
considering how many kids were trafficked there. Even since I've been in office, I think it's a >> I'd love to see that. Please. >> I've been telling them it's 60 days from the day they awarded which was Tuesday >> based on the speestus study permitting and mobilization. Is that is that
accurate? >> I've been Yes, that's that's correct. And there may be opportunity. We we started permitting a little bit earlier through our uh BG group and so there might be a window between Thanksgiving and Christmas. That was a quiet plan to see. Of course, we'll let you all know a
way ahead advance, but yeah, January would be a safe bet and we've been working behind the scenes to try to jump up quicker, but for now, yes, 60 days is ahead. >> Okay, that will be a big celebration and that gives us enough time to coordinate with the new executive director, do the
survey, possibly have a Forest Park meeting, >> which I would like to do. >> Yeah, I think I think that's uh very important. Doug Brutderman can set that up for us. Um, I don't know if we want to maybe throw out some ideas or or leave it to staff to develop those ideas
for the survey. >> I think we got to leave it to staff to >> Okay. All right. >> We We can go ahead and put a draft survey together, bring it back before you, and you guys can approve those questions or add questions. you like >> priorities maybe you know they can rank priorities in the use the former
compreh the CRA plan as like a guide of what was on it before and how it would change >> because we've always looked for >> has changed >> we've always looked for it as a a part of this area plan a gateway feature within there and this has always been identified as a critical piece of property that would be able to
affectuate the Boon Beach Boulevard district plan >> absolutely >> I do want to say that I I support a survey to hear community feedback and um in addition to that, you know, we as the leaders of the city elected by the people can also have our conversations
with our constituents and and I think for me specifically, I would say that I would support again, I don't want to get preemptive. Uh but I I do want to say I want I support not putting housing there. I think that that's something that the community has already started screaming about. And also um if it was a
hotel, I would not be opposed to I don't know looking at what we could do with it. But um my concern is you know one of the reasons why we purchased a property was to prevent live local from happening. So I mean I do believe that we need to have
a nice hotel somewhere in our downtown. But um we'll see what the survey says. But in the meantime I I don't I want to say I don't support having any sort of housing there. >> Yeah, I'm happy to do that. I think um when it comes to the hotel, it's better to have it somewhere down here so that
people can be going to the beach. And I think to put a hotel in that same location, it's just going to bring a lot of the same problems unless it's very high-end. But my concern is if I'm a high-end hotel developer, what about the rest of the street? The street looks
>> Yeah. And and again, you know, this was before I think all of our times, but the light there, you can't cross the street. There's a lot of pedestrians just all over the road. I drive it every single day. I think you come into the neighborhood that way. Um I just the
design of it's kind of weird, right? It it's not uh cohesive for people to be able to go from one location into the downtown. Um so I would and again I know that we've heard many times about the 13 parcels. Um and I don't know if that's
going to be discussed today at all or where we are with that. I haven't heard anything on that issue. Um, but again, my concern there is it's not a clean assemblage and we would need strong community input before we even thought about doing that. And again, I'm not
opposed to it because it's going to get rid of a lot of those 13 parcels are still being um they're landlordowned and uh they're tenant occupied with sober homes. And we know this and um you know, I just think that that's a way for us to really control what's going on, but not
if it's 13 parcels. Well, and and really what the resident buyin is going to be because sure the neighborhood may want us to purchase it, but then what do they want to see there that we're that will benefit them but also benefit and bring
somebody in? Because if when you pay a lot of money for this property, that means that then somebody is going to have to pay us for that money or it's going to have to be some sort of partnership and it there has to be value in it to bring in um a developer to develop that whether it's some
commercial aspect whether it's some you know mixed bag but you know to spend that kind of money I you know there has to be resident buy in on what what they're willing to um to to look at. So, um, >> and and hopefully with the hotel gone, because I know the police are using it
now for training. >> Yes. >> But with the hotel gone, maybe that still is going to free up some patrol to be because there's a lot of stuff still going on on the weekends. The gas station um behind the check cashing store. Um, again, I live two streets over. I think that, you know, I see it.
I see it every day. So, um, >> you know, I think that hopefully there's just something that we can start doing about the businesses that have been there forever, but they don't really care about the community. Yeah, we we're in a different place also than we were 10, 15 years ago. And I don't think we're going to have an issue bringing a
developer in. They're going to be swarming the city trying to get that landmark area of Boone Beach Boulevard 95 because we probably we have a plethora of different projects coming ranging from um homes to also commercial
development. So, I think we're gonna essentially have the pick of the litter and it's going to be the board's decision what they want to be the icon focus of the city going forward. >> Yeah, I think it's what the residents want too and that that it's going to be something that the residents are able to
use and people that don't live in Boon to try to get some money into this city. I had a little laundry list of uh items and most of them been mentioned already but just to review in my own head. I
think the first step is like we said community input uh with the uh survey. Uh the other thing that I uh that came to my mind is in no particular order, but uh the the federal
highway of course uh is a challenge to the city of Boon Beach on the north and and the south end. Um as well as as within the city, uh I I just see we need to really uh light it up. Uh if I can
use that terminology. Uh our city is one of the darkest cities uh physically lighting, not uh morally uh but uh we need we need to to to look at that uh those dark spots, if I can use that
term. Uh we need to light it up. And of course uh the the I95 corridor there um coming off the exit. I I see it as a a golden nugget. we have an opportunity to
um to market ourselves as to what we put there. Um I one of the option would be a a really nice hotel because it's it's not very often that you see a really
nice hotel right off the exit of I95. And I think that would uh help to put uh Boron uh more on uh on the map is to have a nice complex there. The other thing being the u the marina uh along
the inner coastal uh when you look at the physical location of the nearest uh marina from the north and the south uh this becomes a real opportunity for us to expand and
enhance uh our existing uh marina in terms of acquisition lands and having a plan to do whatever we want, whether not we want to increase the slips or restaurants or
housing or whatever. Uh, we can talk about those things. And then I I I I hear a lot of talk about no more apartments, but in certain areas of our city, we could put uh additional affordable housing because there are
still people u that need housing that can't afford it. So, I don't I I I know you're not saying to push that off the table, but by the same token, I I do want that to uh stay on the table and be a viable consideration uh in the future.
Um, another thing I I'm looking at is some type of and I I've talked with uh Andrew a little bit about this uh some kind of a youth center uh for our youth uh because right now in Boon we have EA
HA center. We got uh Ken Sim Center and the pool. We have some amenities, but I I'm looking for uh as I see in other areas as I travel around a youth center that has
uh a lot of um activities going on and a lot lot of things to keep our kids off the street and uh more so than just the football uh and soccer. So we can talk more about the youth center. Um and land
acquisition is certainly um important to me because last time I heard the good Lord is not making any additional land >> and when we have an opportunity uh to grab uh land that would service well in
the future, we need to go ahead and and move uh on that. So, I'm all for uh taking a look at that, maybe doing some swapping with the with the city or CRA or whatever, but uh we certainly need to
uh make land a top priority uh land acquisition uh in our city. One of the things that the BDB talks about a lot of time is uh class A office space which is one of the
items that we don't have much of here in Boon Beach and that's a consideration to draw uh other top businesses uh to our city if we have the proper spacing and office space uh for that. So there's a
lot on the table that uh we need to uh talk about, but I think the first step is like we said earlier is to have a city survey and see what our residents uh have on their mind and what uh they
would like to see uh in this city and the direction they would like to see us go in. and then from there uh we can um uh factor in all the other ideas that we have. So that's where I am. >> Um I agree with you on the lighting and
I think that it definitely goes on the west side of Serest because again our neighborhood we have no lights from Serest all the way to 95 and now that school's in session I'm getting a lot of complaints about that. >> Um but I think that we also need to start focusing a little more on our
seniors. You know, as I sat on the senior advisory board, they got $10,000 last year. They spent $9,000 on a prom, and there is nothing that is getting the seniors mobilized, getting them out of the house. They're not able to do anything. And again, I I'm getting blown up about it. And I get it. There's just
not enough money, but $10,000 was all blown into one prom and it was a fantastic event, but what are they going to do the rest of the year? So, I I know you're mentioning the youth, but I I have to say that I'm more concerned about the seniors at this moment when it comes to trying to facilitate something
for them. >> Um, on on that uh on that note, I a while ago we had purchased that land across from the senior center and I know there's probably potential to abandon that roadway and essentially uh join
those two parcels. Have we discussed potentially looking at some type of conceptual or some type of design where we could enhance or renovate the current or just completely uh redo that senior center
and create a space where, you know, maybe it does include housing. Maybe it's completely recreational and it has, you know, um, a lot more space for amenities or activities that seniors could do, you know, because that space
now isn't isn't the biggest. And so, you know, maybe there's an opportunity there where we can, you know, provide more senior affordable housing and then also provide some amenities. Maybe we put it out to RFP or develop a plan or a
concept, put it out RFP and see if anyone bites. Um, you know, I know there was some dialogue with that. I don't know where that's been, but I think that is a, you know, I don't want to say easy pickings, but I think that's a tangible accomplishment that we could look at.
>> We, what we could do is we there's a couple of different things that uh, we have the ability to do. So, one of the ideas was floated probably about two years ago as far as a parks and wreck bond and being the senior center falls into that those funds whatever if we
went out to bond council see what kind of bond that we could push out and have the citizens vote on that during um elections and if they do pass it we could use those funds to build a senior center that's going to be controlled by the city. The other idea is the P3
aspect. So, we could do a P3 with a private developer. They could build a new senior center with affordable senior housing on top. That's also been floated. But I think what we need to do is maybe add that as a uh future agenda discussion item to get some clarity from the board as far as like what direction
you guys want to see the city going into. But I feel like any plan or design that we go move forward with exactly what you brought up, Commissioner Turkin, that the roadway right there would need to be abandoned in that overall design. So there's a lot of
untapped potential with the city own or the CRA owning that parcel of land and the senior center um there. Anything we do in the city of Boon Beach, we want to be unique and we want to make sure that we put forth a quality item. And there's
the the it's limitless. I go over there, I speak to some of the seniors. some of the seniors that utilize that um facility live on my street and I talked to uh this lady her name's Peg and she goes there with her friend and she was saying like we don't have an indoor aqua
aerobics pool things that so you really have a lot of untapped potential and what you could you could have done from the uh private sector or if we wanted to fund it from a city standpoint. Yeah. >> Yeah. I think economically and when you look at producing, you know, those
higher standard of amenities, you know, someone's got to pay for it, right? And I think, you know, where you you could accomplish something spectacular with more amenities, more recreation. How do you get that done? I think, you
know, my position would be a P3 and then someone would need to provide some form of housing, you know, at a senior rate, which is good, right? So, you're you're not displacing seniors that are getting priced out of their homes now due to taxes and and insurance. And then you
also allow the private sector to invest in those amenities or create something spectacular. Um, you know, so I I would be in favor of of looking at a P3. I think that is the most tangible way. I don't know. You
know, you could we we've discussed the bond. You know, I know that was um a little bit of um uh a trigger pull reaction the last time when we were discussing. I think there's other uses for the bond. The CRA doesn't
have to go to referendum for the bond. It just has to meet Florida. the was it statute 119? What's the statute >> for the for bonds or >> for bonds or P3s? >> Uh bonds for the CRA. >> I don't have it off the top of my head, but >> Okay, that's okay. But um but I don't we
don't the CRA doesn't have to go to referendum, right? The CRA can pull a bond without going to referendum, >> right? So we have specialized bond counsel in my office that I would defer to for that because it's not my area of expertise. Um but CRAAS do generally have different mechanisms because they
don't have advalorum funding. Uh we receive advorum funding by virtue of the tiff but because the CRAAS don't have the authority to levy they don't have the same restrictions on their general funding and bonding activities. >> Perfect. Thank you. Um so you know I think there there's a mechanism there
and it's you know how do we want to leverage do we want to leverage that mechanism you know for something is it this I don't know but I think um you know I I I think there's an opportunity with P3 there. Yeah, I um Commissioner
Turken, I I 100% agree. When we before we were even looking at this property, those were conversations I was having with staff that it's a a great opportunity for us to rebuild a community center that is desperate uh to get rebuilt and also provide senior
housing, which we are in desperate need of having that option for our residents. Um, and so I would not be opposed to to looking into and starting having staff kind of explore what options are out
there or maybe even potentially talking to uh developers to get the to get the kind of the the temperature of the water on such a project and see if it's something that's worth having further conversations on. And if we get down the
road and the and nobody's really interested in such a thing, which I think would be crazy if they're not, but if they're not interested, then we can then we can look at what other avenues to to do it. Um, but I think you're right. I think to get the amenities that
you know if you look at some of the development projects and what they provide to their residents and thinking that that's what our seniors um deserve and could have by partnering with uh you know with someone uh to have you know to
have that I you know I think that it's a it's a win for for our seniors. it's a win for the city to to really be able to to partner and have a a good product come out of this. So I um that's my position on and I think I think it's something worth exploring um and staff
looking at that um whether that's uh you know once you know once we have an executive director uh filled you know to go down that road and you know meeting with city staff and and working together uh to to test that out and see what the
what the temperature is of of doing a project like that. U mayor commission. Um so as a part of our ILA with the CRA, I believe we do have funding to do some preliminary feasibility studies on the senior center. Um we have paused that a little
bit. We are waiting to fill one of the project manager positions which I believe we just recently did. That's going to be the dedicated CRA project manager. Um so we'll we'll be putting that towards that um that project. Well, he'll be doing that project as well as there's been an opportunity for some
additional land on Fourth Street that we were going to be looking at considering potential alternative to redeveloping the current location. So, we are looking at all that stuff and we do plan to bring it back. Um, it just hasn't been prioritized as the highest project on
the list, but it is coming forward within the next I would say next six months. We should have something back to the commission and CRA board. Um, one other thought that I have, um, one of the things that I've noticed as I
travel from city to city that they all have, maybe I've been around too long, a certain character about that city. And what I mean by that, uh, some cities you go into, you can tell right off as you enter that
there's a lot of, uh, tender loving care, um, for this city. Uh, the the shrubberies are cut and trimmed, grass, and all that kind of good stuff. There's a there's a an identity uh, about that
city. Uh to me that adds character uh to that city that they are identified by. I'm I'm uh where I'm going with this is that um a lot of the poles that we have
in our city are the teal color and they have been that way for quite some time. our bridge. If you look at some of the older streets right down MLK on the uh east side of uh the highway all over in
in the community, you still have that teal color, but they have lately been replaced with a different color. Uh I I I think it adds a certain character. It sets
Boon apart. Uh I I think there's something to be said and and as far as I'm concerned, this is a lowhanging fruit that we could do uh instead of painting it that color, whatever color that may be, we could stick with the
tear because it adds character if if once you drive into B and you see all these tier uh con not something that we we didn't invent. Uh it was already in existence, but we seem to be going away
from that. So, I I guess um I I I just I just like to see that um the the forefathers thought that it add character uh by painting those poles that and I can just envision in my head
riding into Boon and uh the poles are the same color as well as the shrubbery and everything else so neatly trimmed. We I think what we're trying to do here is to uh clean up our city, make it look better overall. And I think that's just
another piece of the puzzle, if you would uh take it that way, and just instead of painting the poles like right here in Town Square, we painted the poles uh black uh and just across uh
Federal Highway there are the teal. So just in that one road we changed colors. What was wrong with just keeping a teal? I know it's a small potato, but I think overall uh and the big picture of the matter, it would add a certain character
uh to our city if we just continue with that with that color. That's that's just a feeling that I have. I don't have any stats or statistics to back that up, but it's just something that I think it would uh enhance the city of Boon Beach.
>> Well, considering I saw someone urinating on a poll about two days ago, I don't know what weather is that better, black or teal, when it comes to that. So, maybe that we need to do a study on that. Just kidding. But like I think it like we have to go in about
having community pride. Um, and maybe when as we're tightening up some of these ordinances and people will start caring more about the neighborhood and then yeah, I agree we need to beautify it in a simple but clean >> way, >> but I'm sure the teal probably shows the
urine more than the black. >> I'm just an observation. >> I'm sorry. I saw it. It's interesting because um when discover the Palm Beaches came recently and they did the state of the tourism, I wore a teal dress because exactly because of the
live poles and I'm like what's something that and they had the sailfish as the prop. they have props for different um cities >> and so I thought that was great. But it for to me it is a representation and and to me teal and having those light poles be teal does have like a a meaning um
and and it adds character to the city and it adds identity to the city um as a coastal area. So I think that's great. I definitely >> presentation of the good word. >> Yeah. >> How we marketing ourselves. >> Yeah. So, I would support that and I understand some of them are maybe owned
by FPNL and I don't know. So, maybe that that complicates things a little bit, but maybe we could potentially have an ordinance where within within our city limits we encourage that or >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um the the color of the light
posts are not my top priority right now. I think we can get there at some point, >> but um we have a lot of development coming off Ocean Avenue and I think a lot of those buildings are going to have their own characters, their own architectures, their own color schemes. And I think once those are developed,
then we can really get a good read. And I like the teal, just for the record, but you know, some people don't. It's okay. I I think we can get a good read if what fits better. Maybe it is black, maybe it is steel, but I don't you know back back to um I think the lighting
which which was touched on that is a very important thing and I you know I want to light it up also. You know we've been talking about this for months and I think that within the CRA's bounds I think lighting does fall into uh the
potential funding. So I don't know if that's a master plan. I don't know if that's looking at potential uh sources with solar. I know there was a vendor, I brought this up before at FLC that does a lot of beach lighting, right? That's solar powered >> panel.
>> And you know, maybe there's an opportunity to do that from some for some of these adjacent streets off of the downtown. I don't know if we establish a a lighting fee for new development, you know what I mean? And um or maybe a landscaping fee. There's a lot of things that are going to cost
money, right? And maybe, you know, obviously I want to be a good business partner with people investing in the city, but you know, time and time again, we're exhausting a lot of our our revenues to just simple city services, whereas I think we can partner with the
private sector to kind of, you know, give and take for some of these things launching in the downtown. But I mean for us to you know have almost you know over a billion dollars invested in the downtown and some of these adjacent streets to where you're walking in the dark and you run into a couch is un
unacceptable you know and so I think that should be a a very a very uh like laser lab laser focused uh position that we should have be because I mean people are going to drive around when they're looking to move or they're looking to visit an area
and um you know they might love Ocean Avenue but they might go a couple streets down and and be like, "Oh, the roads don't look that good." You know what I mean? Yeah, you want to see, you know, tangible improvements, you know, around the downtown. And I I think staff has done a great job because there's so
much going on. And um, you know, there's just only so much that we can do, right? And so, I don't know if, you know, we need more st I don't know if we need more planners. I don't know if we need more project managers, you know, whatever we need that the CRA can partner with the city as a funding or
source or mechanism. Um, you know, you know, let's let's let's look at that, right? >> That's great. Um, I we have heard you um with from some of the previous meetings. Uh, I can tell you that William Ley,
who's our new city engineer, as well as with Kevin, they have started coming up with a draft outline of a plan on how we're going to attack looking at lighting in the city. Um, looking at certain corridors, looking into the neighborhoods, prioritizing I can tell you lighting, it seems a little bit simple saying that lighting, we're going
to light it up. I can tell you I was at a public meeting this week where lighting was a subject of we put new lighting in and the adjacent property owners were very upset, you know, because it's shining in their house. So, it is a touchy subject. It's not as easy as a broad brush um as as as as it could
be. I I think we all agree that, you know, lighting is important. Um but I do we we do facilitate that. We will be coming uh forward to the commission or either in the January or um the joint meeting we have coming up, we we're going to present an outline of how we're going to approach that.
>> I I have a question. Um and I know this is probably a problem that you get a lot of time is Pence Park. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, I drove by Pence Park on the way here. I was going to go to Duncan, but the line was so long and it was rough this morning. Um, and I'm getting the other day I got pictures of
some gunshells, bullet shells. I don't know if you got those that happened there. So, I don't know if we're if we're going to light up Pence Park. I know there's a plan, but also don't know if there's possibility to get some cameras there, too, because that's something that I'm just getting loads of complaints on um about the houses across
the street. I believe those houses are condemned. So, what's the process when the city condemns a home? Like, how do how does it get torn down? Because we do have them on fourth. We have the one across from Pence Park, and that's creating people to come there on the weekends and at night and do some shady
stuff. So, once it's condemned, how long do they how long does it take to get them torn down? >> I don't The change the process has changed a little bit and it depends on which avenue we're going. You know, you have the code enforcement route and as well as you have the building official. If it's an unsafe, unsanitary structure,
the building official can react to it. I think it's a 90-day process or a little bit further. There's a lot of steps that he has to go through with um tagging the building, red tagging it, doing a advertisement twice in the Palm Beach Post and those the process. I'm not sure if that has been enacted on those
particular properties, but we definitely will look into it. >> Yeah, they're on the north side. >> Yeah, I saw the I saw the grass this week. And it's but I mean there was just tons of people there this morning and I do get a lot of complaints from a resident that walks there every morning and early morning and late at night.
There's a lot of activity there that's questionable. So I don't know if that's something we can start dealing with. >> One other question I had is a little bit off topic. Um I know Commissioner Haye Vice Mayor Haye had mentioned a community center um our youth center. I
that's something that I'm you know I'm pretty passionate about and you know looking on the west side of the city I know this is kind of a CRA side of it but we really do have a very lack of community centers or infrastructure on the west side of 95 you know I that's something that I would love to see us focus a little bit of time on not you
know obviously today but in the future and then as well as some of the vacant land that the city has like we have the 40 I think it's 40 acres of the old landfill um we also have the golf course out there that is in desperate need of a new clubhouse So, there's also some things outside of the CRA that, you
know, we're going to need to speak about as well. >> Please. Thank you. Thank you, Andrew, for bringing that up. And to agree with the rest of the board on lighting it up, I know we've talked about this briefly at
other commission meetings, but um right near and around Crowder Dog Park, I understand that, you know, the developer created that park. um as part of some development agreement and it is private property. However, um it is a public park that the residents use every single
day um to walk their dogs, to play with their dogs and it's it's like the hub like the social hub for all the public social hub for the residents. So, I do want to really focus when we think about lighting. Of course, Federal Highway is very important, Pence Park as well, um,
and also Crowder Duck Park in that area because it is very much used by the public on a daily basis. Thank you, Andrew. Real quick, what is our um what are our do we have general um park hours
and lighting schedule? because I know that I mean I know in the Meadows they turn off they're off for a certain amount of time. Um do we have um do you know the SK or I mean you can get back to me on it but I'm just I mean we do have a lighting park schedule. Um and I
know that in the Crowder dog park that Commissioner Cruz is talking about um it's owned and maintained by the by the HOAs or the residents the property management company. they're the ones that maintain it. Um, so I would assume
that any lighting that gets put in, even though we have it's our named park, it's really their park. Um, so, you know, we would, I guess, have have to have conversations with them about wanting to to add any lighting to that park, but
it's it's ultimately that neighborhood's park and it's not something that we pay to maintain. That's my understanding. Correct. >> We own the park. They just they they maintain portion of the park. Mostly they maintain the landscaping and irrigation and stuff like that. The hard
improvements the city still maintains. So lighting would be something that would be under the city's purview. Um we do have a schedule for lighting in this city. Most either on a photo cell or they're on a timer um that gets adjusted. I think um there we do have some parks. It just depends on what
amenities are in the parks >> that whether or not they're dusted or if they close at 10. So those are something that would be very specific to the location, but we can definitely if there's something >> I don't want to add lighting to a park that we're not using after 6 p.m. So I
mean it it doesn't So you know if we could just make sure that we're being, you know, I mean like Meadows, I know they're out there playing basketball till, you know, 9 or 10 o'clock at night, but at a dog park is I'm not going to take my dog at six o'clock at night when it's pitch black to the dog park either. Um whether there's lighting
or not. So, um, so just, you know, be mindful of that also, but I'm not opposed to adding lighting. >> If I can quickly respond to that, I've gotten multiple complaints from residents in the area. And when I say the dog park, I
don't mean just the park itself, but people are walking their dogs on the um on the sidewalks up until 10 11 o'clock at night. We have multiple apartments, town homes, um, and people within that area that have nowhere else to walk their dogs but the sidewalk area once
the dog park is closed. So, the complaints are mainly um, safety complaints that they don't feel safe walking late at night um because it's literally pitch dark. It's you can't really see anything at all. Um, on one side you do have the the commercial
plaza which has lighting, but across the street. On the other side there's absolutely no lighting whatsoever at night time and people don't feel safe walking their dogs at night and that's kind of the the concern. Thank you. >> Go ahead. >> I was just going to pivot back to
federal highway corridor. Um, >> yeah. and and crest I think so obviously when we look at like the basal fun basic functions the CRA eliminate slum and blight you know how do we do that we purchase properties we redevelop I think
there's an avenue too where um when you know when the mayor talked about Pence Park some of these condemned properties where we just have completely absent land owners I think there's opportunity where the CRA can look at purchasing some of these uh
properties and trying to get these landlords to start moving, right? Obviously, we only have, you know, a limited amount of funds allocated annually for property acquisition and obviously we want to have vision for these properties. Sometimes that vision,
I believe, is just eliminating what's already there, right? And then, you know, not eliminating a space where you have undesirable activity, right? And that looks different depending on the property. JC Park, all all we did was
establish, you know, some fencing there. Ke, shout out to Kevin. That was a great project. And um you know, you don't have as much of undesirable activity there, right? Um you know, some of these commercial properties that were completely run down, broken, you know,
uh condemning that, you know, you remove the undesirable activity or loitering, whatever. Um, so I I think there's an opportunity where as we look at potential bonds that the CRA could uh look into, you know, maybe we
we look at and I don't know if there's legal framework for this um that follows Florida statute, but looking at creating a bond where we are aggressive in land acquisition on specifically for the federal highway corridor, right? Obviously, we want to talk about that,
but I think this is a a realistic action item to where we can look at a bond and start purchasing properties, you know, partnering with the private sector. you know, maybe you look at um RFPs when you know, contingent on purchasing
properties, which I know has been discussed in the past, which I think is a pretty good idea, but as we get, you know, more clarification on on CRA bonds, you know, maybe pulling a bond, you know, for aggressive property acquisition to really execute a vision
for the federal highway corridor, you know, is a is a tangible action item that this board can pursue. That's something that I think is a pretty good idea and uh allows us to get our feet moving. >> Okay. >> Start with that abandoned car wash.
>> What's that? >> Let's start with that abandoned car wash. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That thing it makes me crazy. Just north just south of the canal. I'm like why? I mean, it has been fenced in and >> I know we have the Yeah, the strip mall. We uh I think we foreclosed on that. Now it's bu When's the demo? It's It hasn't
been for >> Okay. All right. So, there's definitely quite a few opportunities along federal highway >> and I do think all the changes that have been happening with code, which we've we've talked about this, you know, many times is there were policies in place
that really weren't being, you know, put into place. So, I think with that happening, it should be a lot easier to start stacking these violations on these properties >> and taking some action later on because that is the only way we're going to clean up
>> Forest Park to Federal Highway. I can I can name five properties right now that are just nuisance properties I hear about all the time. And the ones on fourth just south of Butcher and the Bar, the ones across from Pence Park, they're they're condemned. They're empty. So, let's let's get them and tear them down because if there's nothing
there, no one can loiter there. >> Um, there's nowhere to hide. >> Yeah. And and I want to touch on one point that I missed that I think is probably the most important about potentially, you know, performing this a aggressive property acquisition
initiative is we then have control of what we want to see developed, right? And so what better way to deliver to our constituents and the residents by having more leverage and what we want to see in our downtown and not leaving it just to the private sector and their property
rights. Right. So, I I I would definitely like staff to and I guess this is more of a um legal sense of homework for for Katherine to see if we can look at pulling a bond for aggressive
property acquisition and you know um to meet the the the CRA's mission. And I I almost feel like that's the precipitating factor before you move forward with the um I guess moving away
from more of a housing focused CRA to more of an a commercial aspect is focusing on the land acquisition part. So, and I everyone on this board most likely has some properties in mind they would like to see the city not only
purchase but redevelop. So, um, as far as on my side of defense, and I'm not going to speak for Tim, but I think we got a good idea where the board stands as far as like what you guys are looking for moving forward, and we can have an additional dialogue from a staff to CRA standpoint. Would you guys like to
transition to the appropriation delegation? >> I I do. I just want to do a recap. I got some notes. That way, we're on the record for like some actionable returns. So, I got Marina overlay district um survey for the in federal federal
highway corridor. We just talked about uh the senior housing RFP potential study. Um the lighting plan, I don't know if there's um lighting plan, I think we kind of already have a return item on that. It's coming back in
January from what I hear. I don't know if there's anything I've missed. I know there's a lot of dialogue. I just know that these things, you know, we could have returned return returned to us hopefully. >> Would you guys want us to do that oneonone or do you want to have a joint
session again maybe in 3 months and we can provide >> in January in January? Sooner than later. >> Okay. >> Because by the time we do it three months it'll be the time change again. >> Mhm. If we do it in March, >> the lighting conversation >> lighting conversation is flared up with
the time change on my end. >> That way, we'll get an extra hour. >> Yes. But it will be lighter at night and we won't know. >> But it the lighting goes back to the seniors, too. We are to build something that's putting them in the same location where they're going to be able to hang
out with each other and be social and use these amenities. But a lot of them don't drive. I took care of both of my elderly parents. They did not drive. The furthest my dad could walk was Hurricane Alley and back and there was really nothing for him to be able to even, you know, go to Kenny's Market and get a
Sammy or something. It was horrible then. He got jumped there. >> So, yeah. Yeah. for clarification on the uh on the survey for the end. Uh Tim and Dan, we're going to you guys are going
to develop some potential um I guess answers for the survey, then bring it back to us to approve. >> What I would like to >> Would that be okay letting them do this autonomously? I think we we know not housing and there there's
obviously um our LDR and the CRA plan that we have to abide by. So I think you could develop those answers from then or maybe I don't know. I don't know. Tuesday is probably too quick of a turnaround. >> Monday
our meeting on Monday right Monday. Thank you. I think it's better for us to work as a board and be interactive about it and when we hear things we can we can discuss it and see if we're going in the right direction. I think that's kind of our job as the as the board members. Um >> if you guys want staff to work with Katherine because I think the way we
frame the survey is going to be very important. Maybe put together five questions. I think it's important not to be too uh convoluted with the questions. Be very direct and lay. And then I can also work with the public affairs
department with Sheila and to actually push that out to the community and that way we can have some some feedback for you guys. >> I just don't want to wait three months to give you guys like the go-ahhead. That's >> so Katherine I mean we're having this joint meeting. We're talking about this
survey but really either of our hats can accomplish that. Correct. So like on the December 3rd, if they have the survey ready for us to look at the first city commission meeting in December, we can as the commission we can review that and give authority with our hat of the
commission because it we're this is a joint meeting. So it doesn't matter what hat we're using to finalize that survey. Correct. >> Right. So, to not speak for the city attorney, um, but I do not see an issue with you giving direction for your staffs to work together and then coming to the first available board meeting.
It's just that whoever approves it, the survey will be issued in the name of that entity, right? So, if the city approves it, it would come out. Additionally, if you all wanted to authorize your staff to run with this, um I it's a sufficiently administrative function, at least on the CRA side, um that as long as you don't make a they'll
bring you back the survey results to make a decision with. So, that would also be legally acceptable. You as the board do not have to approve the survey questions. It's certainly within your purview to do so if you like. So, but I would not say it's a legal requirement. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean I would like to look at just make sure that we're on the right direction and then give the So my
thought is on the first meeting in December as the commission we can say yeah we're good to go with the survey. It doesn't have to be a vote necessarily. It can just be you guys are on the right track and you're free to you're free to go >> is my thought and then that way we get that out the city. So then Dan, that's a
action item for you. >> And we also were able to capture the seasonal people that leave for >> and from another perspective, I I agree with board member Kelly um of having it at the first city commission meeting and at the same time um some of our
residents are familiar with the CRA, some of them are not. They might not really know. So if it comes from the city, people understand more that it's a it's a you know government question and and and things of that nature. Yeah, >> I do think that timing it around the time we do the demo, there'll be a lot of media presence around that. So, the
survey being released at that time would be very well. And I think we also are planning a demo party, a demo breaking kind of >> uh groundbreaking or something there. >> Camera party. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. [Laughter] >> We'll take turns riding on that.
>> Yes, that has to be a thing. Mayor Shel and honor wrecking ball. >> Um I mean hey >> she's had enough medical treatment last her last vision back guys. >> We're talking about brain in the city
here. Come on this what perfect way. >> Well we are going to play that over some speakers. >> Board chair respectfully I apologize. Before you move on to your next item, if I may clarify your legal tasks, which I understand to be to uh work on this parking contract amendment, you'd like for me to consult with bond council and
bring you back options for that and work with Dan on the survey. >> Correct. >> Thank you. >> And again, yeah, I think the survey if it is providing some visionary things because some people might want things that we just can't do there because of the elevation of the property and things like that%
>> want stuff that we can't do there, >> right? So, I mean, even I've wanted some things and been told, "No, it can't be done just by the leveling of the property or the fill." I don't know. I'm not a builder, but the fill and things that need to come in. So, I don't know. I'm just happy to see that we're able to start saving some people's lives by that
place not being open anymore. >> Agreed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> We're moving on. Um, the next item for discussion and consideration is the 2026 state legislation
legis legislative priorities. Mr. TAC, >> um, this I'll actually turn this over to the city staff actually. >> Okay. So, >> hi. Can everybody hear me? Okay. So, um, I've given each of you a, um, two folders. One, Vice Mayor, when we had the conversation at Tuesday night's
meeting, you had asked for the county's priorities. So that's in your second folder for you guys to take a look. Obviously, they're going to be very expansive because of all the municipalities they have to consider with their their priorities. Um, so what I put together is just a kind of a quick draft document um for the commission to
review it. Um, give me some feedback. We can add anything additional that you'd like to have in here. Um, so just to go over, I do have a couple copies in the back if anybody would like one, but um, once again, it's a it's a draft. So, um, home rule is something we normally
champion every every year that we do this. Obviously, I think you're all aware. You know, you guys know your communities best and so you guys should be able to make your decisions. Um, property taxes, obviously, we knew this was coming up. Um, there is not like one
bill that's out there that's like, you know, number one where we need to kind of go after and say we oppose this. Um, I did add, um, in your packet I got from Ballard, uh, the speaker of the house put out a memo about that particular item and, um, there's a few different,
um, joint resolutions that's out there. Um, talking to, um, Matt at Ballard, he just said that these items are going to continue to come up. Um, if they make it out of committee, then we'll we'll know. If there's changes, I'll update the commission and let you know where that's at. Um, Commissioner Turk, did you have
something you wanted to say? No, I I did speak with um a few representatives last night and potentially the governor and it looks I know there's a fear with all these potential property tax uh initiatives being on one ballot. It
seems that's not going to be the case. It's going to be scoped down to one item after it goes through committee. >> Yeah. >> And different processes. Um it seems that the potential priority um for the next legislative
session next year may be a huge focus on local government improving um permit processes was the first thing that I heard and looking at expediting development was was
essentially what seems to be the tune. Again, this is a little bit of speculation. Um, one thing that I did discuss that seemed to have uh gotten a little bit of traction was expanding the use of our enterprise funds, right? I I
think there's a huge mutuality um win there because if there's discussion of, you know, eliminating property tax, repealing the homestead, redoing the homestead, whatever that looks like, it's going to affect local government spending and and revenues.
And so, you know, one of the potential solutions is expanding the enterprise uh use funds and, you know, expanding that restriction from Florida state statute. And so, that's something that I think is tangible that we can look at um in preparation. I don't know if that's like
the highest priority, but I think that that gives a solution to Tallahassee. It gives a solution to us uh to be prepared, right? as many times again we we generate all this revenue let's say in the building fund but we're limited on its use right
>> um for certain capital projects etc etc um so I think there's an opportunity there where we can work with Ballard um work with you know any state reps we have uh relationships with you know to really come up with with a with a
win-win alternative you know I've talked to a couple reps to try to get that and sponsor that bill. Um I don't know what that looks like, but I I just just a thought because we're going to run there is going to be something done about property taxes. Just doesn't know what it don't know what it's going to be yet. Um
>> so I just want to throw out a potential idea. That's something that Adam actually, you know, had Adam and Andrew had had discussed with me. So I think it's a great idea, something we should take take with and run. >> Okay. Um then the third item is unfunded
mandates which we don't want them to pass anything that we don't have funds for. Um there was a Senate bill last year that got passed and some there's litigation. It's Senate Bill 180. It goes against like land regulation what we can do and um some municipalities and
counties have looked at it as like it prevents us from being able to repair um pre and post hurricanes. So, um I I can get more information on that if you'd like, but that's kind of in the same vein. We normally oppose anything where we're not going to have funds to do it. Um the next item is opportunity zones
since tracks. So, this originated from piece of legislation um in 2017 for the tax cuts and jobs act. It basically just encouraged private investment into uh distressed communities. Um the governor selects the tracks. Um, city of Weighton
Beach has two of the third of the original 11 um that were passed by Governor uh Scott and um so it's it's just asking for municipalities to be able to have um some kind of recommendation of like where we'd like to see those in in the community. Um
Adam did send that forward to me as part of economic development. That was a concern of theirs. Um likewise, the next one goes into job growth grant fund and this was also an economic development item. Um that just basically allows for um like funding for to bring in new
businesses to train uh the workforce um those type of items. Um just real quick, sorry I don't forget on that um on that grant fund. Do we have do we get grant funding for that for the job for job
growth? I I'm not sure on that one. It's not something that Ma and I uh have haven't handled that with MNO yet. Um I can ask Adam and see. >> Yeah. I would like to know if we're if we've received any of those funds and um and what we're doing because I know that
we you know as as part of you know our budget obviously we have our economic department and and roll out um you know grants every year but you know if we can capture some some state funding specific for job growth um I think you know I
would like to know if we've gotten that in the past and and what our plan is to to to pursue that a little bit more and these This is super important. I'm glad that we're doing this. Thank you, Commissioner Turkin, for starting this process because there are um I really
want to make sure that we're prepared. I feel like sometimes we go up to Tallahassee and we get up there and the Palm Beach County days is just like a day of like you're bouncing around to offices and you're talking to people, but to really know what you know what the staff's you know what you guys are
working on in the background and what we can work on um separately and independently outside of Palm Beach County days because sometimes it's you know it's a lot that they cram into to 24 hours. Um, and then on the unfunded mandates, can you um it doesn't have to
be today. You can you can get back to me, but I what mandates what unfunded mandates are we still struggling um with and and that are causing us some some issue and is there anything that we can do about that um you know in the future
as far as you know getting some u some support in Tallahassee to maybe uh you know modify those mandates in the future. >> Okay, I can get that to >> Thank you. And the the last one that I had on here, um Adam did send it um for
public safety is that the 9 911 increase um they're seeking to have that because um the call centers they with the carriers only give like 40 cents for the calls and that goes to certain basic infrastructure this or that. But then the the call centers which there are 16
um the municipalities end up picking that extra cost up that's not funded. So, they're trying to get an increase with that um for those activities. Um, one item that I didn't add on here because I wanted to talk to the city manager and um the chiefs is that
there's a proposed amendment to chapter 365 section 171 of Florida Emergency Communications State Plan. Um, and that would impact the those uh answering centers. They're trying to go to like maybe a centralized county one. So, I
need to have a little bit more dialogue with the chiefs to see where we all stand with that and then I'll be able to report that back to the commission to >> the municipalities won't be able to have their own independent 911 center. Is that what that is? Um, call center. >> It appears that way or they won't be able to transfer. Um, so I wanted to get
some a little bit more information on that before putting it on here. But, um, I do know that some other municipalities have kind of started to talk about it, um, that have those centers. Um, and so I'll be able to give that to the commission once I get to talk to the chiefs. >> Thank you. Yeah, cuz I mean obviously we
know in the city on the west side we have a lot of overlap between the county and and it's it's gray in some areas as far as who handles what and I know we have a lot of crossover between um dealing with um you know county dispatch and and city dispatch. So um so if you
could get back to us on that that would be um great. and if it's something that we need to be um you know working on uh with our you know with our with our contacts. Thank you. >> And um the next page, page three, um I just we just put back in here the
legislative appropriations requests that have previously been sent to the commission. Um just to have this in our packet of course. Um and the next item in your packet were actually the bullet points on those projects. So MNA put this together. we reviewed them. Uh
there's a few definitions for like trenchless pipe bursting um and and things of that nature, some terms that maybe you wouldn't recognize. Um so that's in there for you. If you once you guys review this, if you'd like us to add any sort of bullet points to this, we can certainly do so. Um but these are
the five projects that we have that we've submitted to Ballard to get sponsors. And um the high flood swift water rescue response program has sponsors. uh Burman's sponsored in the Senate and I have to go back and look and see who did it for the the House since we don't have Rep. Cassello.
>> Um thank thank you for the one pager on the uh marine response facility. I think this one >> has great potential. My only um ask is if we can add some form of language that and you kind of touch on it with regional safety capacity but
multi-jurisdictional area served I think is what what what representatives are going to look for so that way it's not just uh you know right correct yeah we had that and then that also allows us to turn this into multiple representatives
where it could impact even if they're inland you have a lot of people that go east to the beach right so this isn't just about coastal communities. I think this is a a central south Palm Beach County multi-jurisdictional, you know, initiative that we can,
>> you know, really really propose. Um, but this is great. This is exactly what I think the instruction was. And so I think this is awesome. >> We'll add that to the sheets. We did obviously have that in our proposal when we our our submission when we sent that, but we will add that to this. And then
when when this is um revised, can I just get a copy of it? >> Of course. Yeah. No, we'll send them back out. This was just an initial view. So you could, you know, look at it and say, are you able to convey what this project is? Do you feel comfortable? And then give us feedback. We'll add an item or two like you just asked for um to
each of these and I'll give them back to you. >> Perfect. And then cab uh Candace as it pertains to the marine response unit um when I would assume and you know if I'm not assuming then I'm asking um that we're including and that we're having
communications with the uh neighboring cities, municipalities um that would utilize this to put this on their radar that we're asking for this and we want your support. Um, and you know, because what happens when you go uh to
Tallahassee is that you made appointments and you go in the office and you talk about your initiatives and we have no way of knowing if Highland Beach went and talked about our initiative and and another city went in in support of it. So, I want to make sure that we also are really
collaborating with those uh with those towns and villages and municipalities that that we can that would be utilizing this uh to make sure that it is a priority on their list too when they're up in Tallahassee as well. Um and that uh to to just reiterate the importance
of it that it it really is uh like Commissioner Duran said, you know, a South County um initiative and and we can certainly do that. We normally do that when we get the letters. So, so I typically like to do a delegation style letter so you can get that buy in from everybody so they can really see that
impact. Um, that was something for the um high water rescue vehicle because that's a statewide that can be deployed. So, you know, my my guidance on that was to, you know, look across on the west coast. If we could deploy it statewide, get those members to go ahead and sign into a letter. So that's something that
um you know I'll work with um fire um rescue to see about you know what their their letter is and we can kind of help that. But yes ma'am we can do that for sure. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much for doing this. This helps me a lot because it's my first time >> dealing with this. So I love that I have
this to digest cuz I was organized. >> I was this is very am we we've had anything like this. No, cuz we're just going up there and >> meandering around. >> Please give us some money. >> Kind of what we do. >> I'm also working with your
>> with your commission aids. So, your your travel, I'm going to give that to Ballard and then we can start setting up me uh meetings for you while you're there in Tallahassee. So, I know that um I think Commissioner Cruz is now attending. And so, I'm going to continue now that I think that we have all your travel, your flights um booked now. I'm
going to get with them on uh Monday because Tuesday's the holiday. um and send that to Matt. >> Okay, >> great. >> Candace, I really want to thank you for putting this together >> because one of the things we did the last time we were up there is that we
went together to some because there was commonality >> uh and the the the wish list I can call it that. Uh and then there are points where we separated based on what was on our sheet >> and what you have here. I I guess the
one of the question is um which one of these are are on both county and city of Boon uh sheet that we could >> easily distinguish if we wanted to separate when we get up there to
Tallahassee one go one way one go another >> there so there's three and you'll you'll be able to see it in the the document you have but property tax was on there um this is what you're referring to right the actual legislative priorities correct So, property tax was on there, opportunity zone, uh, zone, census
tracks were on there, and the 911 fee. So, we're just lock step with what staff here believes we need to support as well as the county. >> Very good. >> I didn't um, now the the other item that I have to talk about with the chiefs that may get added once we talk to once
I talk to staff and CM um, and then I send um, I don't believe that was in the county document, but um, that's the only one that I didn't see. Great. Good job. >> Okay. Any other questions? >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. Is there anything is there anything else that we would need to discuss today? N >> I know everybody's like, "It's Saturday. Let's please. I have to work, so I don't know if everybody else gets to go and enjoy your day, but I hope you'll enjoy
it for me." >> Yep. you know, with everything in the press talking about how we're going to get an influx of New York buyers coming down. I don't know. I already got two calls, so I'm out with New York buyers
yesterday and today >> that flew in. So, we'll see. >> Good for you. Let me know if you get overloaded. >> I know, right? I know. I appreciate everyone coming in today. >> There's lots of homes out. Um, and I appreciate
>> I appreciate the three citizens. I know I know Mildred, you're always here, so you're like one of us now, but I appreciate you all coming in on this Saturday morning. So, thank you so much. And, um, all those in favor, do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion to adjurnn. >> All those in favor say I. I.
>> Everyone, have a good Saturday. >> Thank you. Thank you.