All right. So, we got uh Vice Mayor Hayes on. I see Commissioner Kelly is on. I see the mayor's on. Is uh is Commissioner Cruz on and Commissioner Turkin? See them on yet.
>> All right, we'll give it like uh two more minutes and then we'll get started. All right, we'll go ahead and get started. I uh briefly want to go over a uh lawsuit that the city was facing. I just uh want to give kudos to uh the
city's legal department as well as Rob Sniffing. um the case with uh Tanil Dosti where we were being sued for um an EEOC. >> Hey, can you guys hear me? >> Yeah, we can hear you. >> Hey, I'm here.
>> Yeah, I'm just uh going over the lawsuit and dismissal. Um and just giving the legal >> legal department kudos. This has been probably about two and a half years. Um we got summary judgement today from a federal judge in the Southern District.
uh fully dismissing the lawsuit. So, it uh had zero merit. So, that's uh that lawsuit's done now. So, uh >> kudos, Shauna, Stacy, 96 Bulls, baby. So, I know we went through or at least
some of us went through um OIG investigation, Commission on Ethics Investigations, uh multiple depositions, and so bringing some closure to that, I'm sure, is a relief for I know Daniel Whitefield, myself, Andrew Mack, like
Shauna, we uh we really went through the uh meal and we did things the right way. So, Um, with that being said, if there's uh no comment on that, I'm gonna move forward. Uh, so we'll start off. >> Plenty of comments, but I think uh for
time sake, I'll I'll >> Yeah. Who was that? Was that Danielle? >> No, it was Amy. Right. >> Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, right. Amy, I mean, gosh, what a Yeah. You know what? But I do want to talk about this because this was I mean this was unjust crazy and
this just goes to show that it all comes out in the wash and you know there's people that are on the right side of this and there's people that were not and I I just think that um you know I just got to give my heart out to Andrew and and and Dan and Shauna and everyone
else that and y'all's families who were negatively impacted by this and you guys, you know, stuck talked through it. You didn't quit. When I say you didn't quit, you didn't quit on the city. You didn't quit on the mission. You didn't quit on the residence. You didn't quit on the commission. And you put one foot forward and you did the right thing. And
um you know, I know we don't typically get uh you know, too involved, you know, with with lawsuits that are dropped, whatever. But, you know, for me, this was, you know, to see the direct impact on on how it affected you guys, you know, you know, emotionally with your
families. I mean, this is a this just goes to show that, you know, you do the right thing, you trust the process, and um you know, what a what a huge win for the city. And you know, hopefully this chapter is is over with. And you know, when you look at the last year, I think
this commission, the city has really made leaps and bounds as far as progress. And um you know, I mean, gosh, what a time. I mean, gosh, I remember I mean, crazy how different it is, isn't it, Amy? >> Just the whole vibe and the culture. I
mean, completely different. >> And I think it's, you know, I I hope that, you know, it's, you know, lessons learned to those like unfortunately unfortunately for our staff that was dragged through the mud in this, you know, the internet is here forever. And
so now their names are dragged even though everything was cleared and our staff was cleared and this lawsuit was dismissed and there's because of no there was no no valid um claims there. I
the internet and the news that you know threw it all out there and threw mud on them. I it it's there forever and it's it's disappointing that that that's how that went along and there were people that supported that and so I you know I
just you know I just want to remind people you know this is a lesson like this you know this is our staff these are these people love our city and and work really hard every day and we have to have their backs because they have
ours every day and so you know it's just it's disappointing um that you know their names got dragged through the mud on nonvalid issues and and stuff that you know was
unfounded and you know it just it's it's disappointing. I'm I'm glad that you know it you know the truth came out and we knew what you know you know we we all felt how it was going to turn out those that were you know in support of our
staff. So, I just, you know, that's those are my thoughts on it. I'm glad to hear um you know, our legal team fought really hard um for this and and didn't back down. And so, you know, great job and and uh sorry that our staff had to
get dragged through the mud on it. So, but yep, those are my thoughts. >> No, I do appreciate all the support. Um Andrew, you can let Mo know that you're not racist. Thank you.
>> All All I want to say is just ditto to what's been said. Okay. We we really need to uh to move forward and be uh be be the city that that we we can be. All of this uh was just uncalled for,
unnecessary, but like uh one of you just said, it it'll all come out in and in in the end. So, I support it. I can say one thing that going through it was tough, but coming out on the other side of this, I think
it's strengthened our team. It's made the city better. Um, not something I want to go through ever again, but I can tell you that we're better off on the other side of this. >> Okay. >> Yeah. All right. Well, >> the the only other thing I I would just
like to say I just hope that there's some some lessons learned in terms of when we when we hire someone to to to add a little more vetting, you know, to to our search criteria. I mean, look at
>> more. I know we did our our best, but let's not just take um one person's uh word for it without doing our homework, if you know what I mean. >> Yeah. Yep. Definitely agree with you. >> Yep.
Okay, I'm done. >> All right. Well, moving on. Uh we got a 3A we'll start with. We have the annual magic wheels and special deals event Thursday, February 5th at uh 5:00 pm at the Eel Hester Community
Center. Uh we also have the barrier the annual barrierfree 5K event takes place Saturday, February 7th. Luckily, it's not this Saturday where you could get some uh nice 30°ree weather to run in.
Um that's going to be uh February 7th at 7:30 a.m. starts at the Berry Free Park over on South Congress. Uh is uh Hey, Chief De Julio, you feel uh I I just have some questions about the
overall are we going to be shutting down Congress Avenue or are we gonna have police uh police presence over there during that uh um 5K? >> We're not going to shut down Congress. We'll just uh we'll give them a lane buffer as they as they make their way
through their route. We we've done we've done it with um similar things up on Serest. We just try not to to shut down the road. >> Okay. >> Is it not going through Hunter's Run this year like it usually does? >> I don't exactly know where it's going
out completely. Um but the the major the major road on Congress where it would would they would come out at some point um would be would be blocked off would be blocked off only as they're running the one lane. >> Yeah. Normally like I mean I've done it
several years and it we start at barrier free and we go right into Hunter Run to that back entrance and we go into Hunter's Run and then come back out. So it's Yeah. I mean they've always it's like one little section that gets blocked off. >> Yeah.
>> To traffic and then the Hunter Run security people block off within their development like they have it all. >> Yeah. That that's correct. >> Yeah. Okay. >> All right. So, uh public audience 5A community support
funds. I know uh Commissioner Kelly you had briefly spoke to me last night about the uh women's foundation. Um I didn't know did you want to give uh any funding to to that group or >> Yeah, I'm going to do that um probably
at the next meeting. I had to talk to them and see what initiatives they have going on right now. And um I know they've been doing a um like a teen uh they partnered with uh Boon High School uh Boon Beach High uh
to do some teen workshops. And so I'm going to get with them and see uh what their next uh big initiative is and but I'll know that for the next meeting. >> All right. Uh yeah, Mayor Shelton, you're giving $500 to the Boon Beach
Garden Club, >> correct? >> Okay. Vice Mayor Haye, you have three separate uh contributions here. One to the girl Girl Scouts of Southeast Florida for 500. Pathways to Prosperity Mental Health Program and Services 500.
Pathways of Prosperity $500. Sure Ricky Petty's going to be happy about that. >> That's correct. That's correct. >> And if Commissioner Cruz is on, um, you're providing $1,000 to Young and Faith.
All right. So, moving on to consent agenda. 6A is approving a permit application. The city Boon Beach Police Department temporarily moving its radio system electronics into the county shelter at the public safety tower site.
And this is just uh moving it from our uh previous old dilapitated site that we uh I want to say we got a million dollars in an appropriations from uh federal. >> I hear an echo. You haven't I have an echo.
>> I don't hear an echo on you. >> I don't hear an echo either. >> I don't hear an echo either. >> I don't either. >> Okay. So, you guys are good to go. >> But I would Dan if you could blow that up a little bit or whoever is is u doing the screen just a tad bit.
One more time. Uh you went the other way. That's good. That's good. Thank you. >> No, it's it's bigger on my end. Can is it bigger on your end? >> Yeah. Yeah, it did increase. Thank you. >> Okay.
>> Um, so yeah, this is just moving our uh our our communication equipment to another site and uh getting ready to uh move it on to our permanent new site. Uh 6B is approve an amendment to the letter
agreement with a contract for bicycle and pedestrian focus initiative. This is what IPM from the University of North Florida grant. They're tripling our grant from uh 5,000 to 15,000 for bike patrol and safety. So 6C is
appropriation agreement uh between FD um DEP and the city of Boon Beach in the amount of $500,000 for the sanitary sewer collection. We got this C and also H. If you guys remember last year we had $875,000
in appropriations given to us uh through the state of Florida. Um the these are both those project. is going to be bent tree and lime tree which is uh outside of our jurisdiction but we're still responsible for the maintenance uh maintaining the uh the the water
equipment and also the sewer equipment that's out there. So this is going to help touh repair some of those dilapitated uh subterranean infrastructures that are uh are out and we got $875,000 towards that uh repair from the state of Florida free of charge. So that's uh
it's definitely a win. Um 6D is going to be calling for the so D and F. I am going to allow uh Mirina or Candace, you guys want to speak on these three items. Feel free >> that one's actually me uh D and F.
>> Oh me item. Yes, >> these are all dealing with the upcoming uh referendum items that we're putting uh towards the uh referendum and it's dealing with the uh the language changes, residency and I can't remember
what a third one is. So both deming board these three are the same ones that we put forward every year. Um they're just one is to approve the agreement with the supervisor of elections office for their part of it. One is for the camcency board where the county is our
convincing cvcy board and the other one is um just calling for the general election for the three referendum questions. >> All right, no questions. We'll move move on. So 6G, that's the PY cottage district developers agreement to share
the cost of milling reservicing the full width of the roadways of budding the proposed development. Can you pull the uh map of that up if you don't mind, Candace, so you can see all the roadways that are being repaved. And >> while you're pulling that up, we had a
very exciting morning at the cottage district and um it was great to see um to see those houses uh complete and on their way. So it was very exciting this morning.
>> Absolutely was. Lot of happy uh people there this morning. Atmosphere was just perfect. Little cool, but >> it was okay. You keep moving. You keep moving. >> If there wasn't sun, it was going to be bad. Yeah.
>> That's right, Amy. >> All right. So, these are the roadways are going to be paved around the uh around the parcel and you'll see them. So, those are going to be all new paved roads in district two. So, >> beautiful. >> Yep.
All right, you can go ahead and close out of that, Candace. We can move forward. Thank you, Matt. All right. So, where was I? I already went over H. That's a vent tree lime tree. Uh, approve authorized mayor sound
2025. This is our annual tree you um arborday foundation program and Alana's been doing that annually now for a few years. So, 7A on consent bids and purchases. We
only have two, which is the lowest in the last three and a half years since I've been doing this that I've seen. So, we have A and B. So, one is the uh renewal agreement with the uh expenditures with Motorola for the continued maintenance and repair of the
P25 radios and that's not to exceed 200,000 annually for the next 5 years. Uh that's for um does that include both FD and uh PD chief or is that just PD? It's for both. It's for the It's for the
dispatch. >> Okay. All right. >> So, uh 7B, uh that's all of our piggybacks. Can you open that up just so you can show all the uh renewals of our piggyback agreements? So there's a lori layer
metal containers and looks like a utility project for uh cured in place pipeline. >> Yeah. >> Are those the only three? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Okay. Go and close out that. Uh we don't
have any new updates on any of the uh second readings. These are all uh Jo um Jos's restaurant dealing with their uh new location at 3047 North Federal Highway. So there's no new updates unless you guys have any questions on
those. We can uh move down for the ebike disc discussion. This isn't as a robust agenda like we had last time uh where we were combining essentially multiple different uh agendas due to the uh holiday break. So
discussion on a proposed ebike ordinance. Uh I do we did we mirror other municipalities off of this uh Adam did we mirror this off a specific other city? And obviously this is up for discussion with uh the commission and as
far as any sort of amendments or input you guys have into uh trying to make this a safer environment for a lot of these especially teenage kids and younger uh younger adults that are operating these ebikes on roadways. I we've all seen them.
>> Yeah. Uh this is this is mirrored. Yeah. Similar to how other juris jurisdictions have have done it. And I know that the city attorney's office had provided a memorandum uh to the city commission. I think earlier earlier this this month um providing some background statutoily and
some some provisions that we can we can adopt um should we wish to move forward with uh regulating ebikes within the city. >> Chief Chief, do you want to um is there anything that you want to add to that? Have we had many incidents with the the
ebikes and and in Bora? >> We we've had a few um traffic fatalities. Um as far as what the ordinance is reading, those particular incidents uh wouldn't be covered. The ordinance is basically saying ebikes are going to be
prohibited on to be on sidewalks. Um and that's mostly from all the complaints we've been getting. Um there are a lot of concerns about our pedestrians and also concerns about the ebike riders on the sidewalk traveling at a high speeds, cars pulling out in front of them. Um uh
thankfully we haven't had any of those type of incidents, but our our traffic fatalities with ebikes have occurred be because the ebikes were traveling against the the flow of traffic or violating some other traffic law, not specifically to the sidewalk. The sidewalk is more to address all the
complaints we were receiving. >> Yeah. What about um >> what? >> Sorry. >> Okay. >> Sorry. >> I was I was gonna ask about quickly and I'll get out the way here. What about those uh I guess you call them escooters or whatever. I've gotten some complaints about those things. Uh depending on the
size, uh they can be just as hazardous as the ebikes on the sidewalk. So, are we looking into that as well, Chief? >> Uh yes, sir. there. It's actually covered in the ordinance. I believe they're called on the ordinance they're called recreational devices. Um but it
will include the the micro scooters. >> Okay. Micros scooters. >> Yeah. That that's becoming more and more of a a challenge to you know I was one pass
by me and that that thing was moving pretty good. Uh if if I had moved it just a little bit to the left, uh it could have been disastrous for the bike, not me. I made a steel. But no, really, it it it I think it
deserves our uh looking into to make sure that we can be proactive and whatever fashion that we can. The only thing that I'd add is not only does it cover the the use and operation of these devices, it also uh covers the
the storage and parking of these devices, you know, making sure they don't uh block pedestrian uh access and things like that. >> One other question, um talk a vice mayor. I I said I wasn't going to
say anything else, but but those ebikes those ebikes, they can't be like motorcycles and park in in a in a parking space. Is that correct? >> They're not supposed to be. They're not they're not considered motorcycles. Unfortunately, the way the Florida state
statutes look at ebikes, there are considered bicycles as far as what the law states. Um so they follow all the bicycle laws. Um they do classify the ebikes into class one, two, and threes. And I believe threes could look like a motorcycle. Um but generally, um they're
not they're not allowed to park in those spots. However, we all know that they do. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. A go ahead, commission. >> Okay. No worries. Um Chief, what what is this? I mean, so there has the statute
been updated to it's been updated to include ebikes, right? So it classifies them as bicycles. Is that or or is it still the same statute that talks about two- wheeled vehicles or are considered
bicycles or self-propelled? >> So the state statute does address ebikes and classifies them. However, the bicycle law pertains to the law as it it relates to ebikes with the exception of if you're if you're on an ebike that can
be 28 miles or higher, you're not allowed to be on a sidewalk. Uh any ebike under 28 miles an hour um can be and I I find that speed to be high. And I think if you got hit >> if you got hit by if you're a pedestrian, get hit by an ebike doing 23
24 miles an hour, you're going to feel it just as if it's doing 29 30 miles an hour. Um, and that's kind of where the state statute stops and allows municipalities to to put more um, you know, more restrictions in place. And we kind of looked at what the town of Palm
Beach did a little bit when we started crafting the the ordinance for your for your review and approval. Um but it's it's definitely, you know, a draft and and you know, it's a it could be brought back and amended any way the commission likes. So this is just a starting off point.
>> Yeah. I mean, I feel like ebikes are kind of because of the speed component. It's kind of like road cycle, you know, the guys the, you know, the the racers or the, you know, the professional and semi-pro and even just avid enthusiasts,
you know, who are going 29, 30 miles an hour on their bicycles, their manpowered bicycles. um you know that I mean that's why we created these bike lanes and and areas off of the roadway so that you know on most of the roadways obviously
um to provide that that barrier for them but also provide a safe sidewalk for people to walk who are you know just walking. But does the statute address is it the same as requirement um as far as lighting goes because I
know we see a lot of ebikes and e- scooters in the mornings and they're not lit and you know I mean they're on the sidewalks obviously because it's safer than being on the road and in the morning at 4:30 nobody's really on the sidewalk or on the road. So, um, but
most of them don't have lights. And so, does the statute address in particular lighting requirements for ebikes or is it >> Commissioner Kelly? I don't want to interrupt you. I got to step off. My aunt May has called me like four times and I want just want to make sure it's
not an emergency. Andrew, can you take over for me for a couple of minutes, please? >> I'm not going to be too long and the chief and I can talk offline, too, if it if we need to wrap it up. So >> just just quickly to answer your question, state statute talks about lighting requirements for bicycles.
It'll apply to ebikes as well, meaning they'll have to have a front and rear light. >> Okay. So, I mean, this comes down to I we talked about this months ago about education and and we did some things and then I think I think and the county did
some things and other municipalities did some things educational wise and I think it you know when we had some you know incredibly sad you know uh you know deaths with you know countywide there was a big push for you know educating
um like that's kind of dropped off and I feel like that's where um you know there is a disconnect you know we're you know whether we pass this or not it's kind of like we're we go through the motions of having an
ordinance but if we're not educating the residents on you know safety and how to do it right what's what's the point >> yeah I think the ordinance is is just is just one thing and I agree with you I
think the education component needs to be in there as And we have been doing PSAs and we've done some videos just recently. Um, a lot of our initial enforcement with ebikes. Uh, it was more of an educational, but I think that needs to be more educational >> um from the parent level as too because
a lot of these operators that ride bikes are are, you know, juveniles. >> Yeah. No, and I Yeah, absolutely. Well, and their parents buy them as presents and then, you know, don't force them to wear helmets and don't force them to put lights on and because maybe they don't
know or they don't really aren't thinking about, you know, the, you know, what happens when you don't wear those things. So yeah, I mean we we can keep talking, but I think education is key and you know what no matter what
we decide to do as a city as far as an ordinance, I we we do have a responsibility of the residents to to you know to to educate and to to push out the statute that's already there um at the very least. So
that's all I have. Okay. Um, that's it. If there's no other questions, I think we're done. Any other comments before we end? >> Yeah, I have a few comments. Uh, on the meeting on the meeting that we had uh
Monday night, there were quite a few question that the community brought up. um some of which uh we didn't appear to have a good response to. I would give him some thought for that. Uh Andrew,
you weren't there. Uh and I think Adam had to leave early. Um who was there? Um Candice was there. Not not Candice Wall, but uh from the code enforcement.
Um, are you on Candace from code enforcement? Probably not. Um, >> she's dealing she's dealing with a family family issue, I guess. >> Oh, okay. Okay. But but I I I think
there was some some valid uh question that came out of that that I think should be uh answered or or looked into. Um, I don't know who from the staff was in the meeting cuz I didn't kind of look
around behind me. Um, so what do we stand on on that? Are we doing any um addressing of those types of issues that came up? Um, >> well, isn't it limited to like just a
few streets that there's not that parking on? because I did have a conversation with some residents about it and I have residents that have messaged me and and want this ordinance change, but I I think it's limited to just a couple streets that would need to be reviewed. >> Yeah. So, let me I I kind of want to
take the uh the the lead on this conversation and I'll tell you guys the crux of it. um where we're at. And I'll tell you um I I guess some I don't want to say that we're
it's going to be a hard no, but there's maybe some informal approaches that we can take. The commission uh was presented with an ordinance. Uh that ordinance passed not one but two readings unanimously.
We did not take into effect back in I want to say in October, November. We gave it a fourmonth educational period all the way until February 1st. Uh we've conducted multiple town halls um doing information as far as like what the
expectations of the ordinance is. This was taken from multiple different municipalities. And I know from Carolyn Sims, uh Commissioner Haye or Vice Mayor Haye, you were there. I know commissioner or commissioner-elect McCrae has reached out to me and the
issue is some of the streets in district 2 are narrowly designed and they were smaller and they were built during the segregation periods. And what I would like to do is is if we get consensus
from the the board tonight is extend that educational period to March 1st. And I want to be able to come back and maybe present some administrative um waiverss or hardship waivers that we can
kind of look at to where or we can maybe carve out an amendment where sections of the city this new ordinance that we passed uh it would be it wouldn't be logical to enforce it
when the properties are so narrow and small. And the streets are so narrow and small that we would have to essentially go in there and actually have the homeowner build out their property or essentially pave the entirety of their u
front yards just to be able to fit two or three cars. Now, typically a family of four, wife, husband, two kids, three kids, as those children get older, Andrew, you can attest to this. Uh you you have four kids. Uh, how do you and
I'm sure your property line is larger. And how many cars do you have at your household? >> Any given time I could have four for sure and makes it difficult. >> So we have to we have to look at some workarounds for that. I just I need
about a month with staff so we can evaluate some things. What I don't want to see happen is I don't want to have to bring this ordinance back to the dis and second reading and I there was a lot of work that was put in both by the
mayor by commissioner Turkin and by the board as a whole on on on crafting this. So, I'd like if you guys would give us probably about a 30-day window or it's not probably about a 32-day window before we can actually look at some
stuff and I can have some meetings with my staff and see what the appropriate approach would do. So, if you guys would >> Well, I do think we need to extend the education simply because some some people have not been notified. So, I do agree with that.
>> Yeah. The other piece of that uh uh mayor uh is is like Dan was just stating some some of these houses were built during a period where I don't know whether the code was overlooked for that section of time but trying not to go there but I think that
would work uh Dan what you just stated uh just kind of extend the the period of of education and try to work uh things out that would that would be beneficial to to those people who are caught between the rock and hard place because
it >> and also remember we had Miss Young talk about doing alternate street parking on those streets at one of our meetings. She came down and mentioned that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I thought we and I thought some of the streets we took off
of the we temporarily held and staff have talked about this for that exact purpose to look at evaluating streets that we could one way and I thought that we had kind of taken those off of the table for now because of that because it
was going to take more time to figure that out but or come with some plans or you know ideas and options. So, I'm fine with extending the time period. I think the more >> I'm fine with it, too, Dan.
>> Okay. I appreciate that from you guys. I got one more thing for you guys to consider. Um, I just need a consensus. The parcel over on Nicholls Boulevard that we were exploring and the Palm
Beach County Housing Authority auctioned their parcel off. We were going to uh we had a buyer for our par parcel was for 5 million. The commission decided against that. They decided to preserve that parcel and not sell it to become one
single development with the same um developer. I'm not sure who purchased that during auction, but we explored doing an environmental impact study, but then we looked at a deed restriction and it wasn't going to be developed. Um, I
can say that I' I've spoken to some of you and there's been a uh a an idea that we could go beyond the deed restrict and look at doing a restricted covenant um on that parcel so it can't be developed
in the future. I know Commissioner uh Kelly, you've done that and I know uh Commissioner Turkin, you've also done that with Harvey Warrior Park. Is there an appetite to go forward with this particular parcel so it soos any sort of anxiety for any future development with
some of the residents that came out during that time? >> Yeah, I'm um I think that's a good idea. Maybe we >> Me, too. >> You know, I think we look at the language of what that's going to include in the covenant. Maybe um
Florida sanctuary. you know, there's a lot of development going on and maybe there's an opportunity to uh partner with D or some of these other organizations and um you know, try to participate and be eco-friendly and you know, I know
there's some in Central Florida where they they'll rehabilitate and relocate some of these tortoises to other places when you have projects coming out of the ground. So, I don't know if this is an opportunity to complement that.
and have that here in Boon. So for me, I'm okay to, you know, do that and maybe look at even going a step further and incorporating this into a tortoise sanctuary. >> Um, my only I mean, my hesitation is
it's in the county, so um and it's zoned single family right now. So, I don't I mean, is the county going to work with us to allow us to do something like that? I mean, my my whole position is that we're not going to the whole point
of it coming from the county to the city was for future development because of the mall being right there and all that. So my thought is if we're not going if that's not the plan and the plan is to then why are we hanging on to property
that is not it's not in our city. So we have that means we have to go to the county for zoning. We'd have to go to the county for approvals on use and on all that stuff. So depending on the commission at the time, if they're not supportive of that or
they're not supportive of what we want to do on our property, then what are we then do we really have the ability to do anything like that or do we just go back to the county and say you want it, you know, we want to
preserve it, you preserve it and you figure out what to do with it because it's not in the city and it's although we own it, We can't right now it's zoned single family. We can't just turn it into a sort of sanctuary without the county approving
that and allowing us to do something. And and so I mean I'm kind of like I can't make a decision on what I would agree to do without having conversations with the county on what they would allow us to do because it's in the county. So
I mean that's kind of my thought on that. This is just to put this as an item on the future agenda for discussion and we could bring it to the dis and you guys could decide whether or not you want to explore those options. If it's not possible then it's not possible. I
agree with you being it's in county jurisdiction but the city owns it and it was donated to us. But I can tell you that Greg Weiss himself was out there essentially uh with those individuals
that were actively against any future developments. So, >> no, no, I get it. I'm I'm fine having conversation, but I'm we're not having this conversation in a future agenda meeting unless somebody from the city has spoken to the county about what they're going to would even entertain
any other options except leaving it as single family. Because if that's the case, then I mean then we don't even need the conversation is over. We they're not going to let us do anything. So I mean that's all I'm saying is that because it's in the county it's in a
county pocket. We can have a conversation but the county has to have been part of that conversation or at least spoken to before to see what they'll even entertain. So, I'm optimistic in that conversation.
I think when you holistically look at all the development and development as an issue, not just in Boon Beach, but in Palm Beach County and um at the state as a whole, I think there's a huge opportunity where we already have the land. Yes, it's in the county, but I
think and I I think the county looking at this, it'd be advantageous for them to either maybe do a partnership, look at this. So then that way there is a synergistic way of preserving green
space, right? You have the opportunity there to do that. Um otherwise, >> I'm just saying that's what I'm saying. like we just get what you're saying. Like that's the I 100% agree. I think there needs to be a conversation with the county about like hey what do you
like because obviously there was the thought of like maybe the county buying it that wasn't wellreceived by the community, right? So I think from what I remember there's a lot of pressure on preserving that space and keeping it in control with the city. Yes, it's in the
county and maybe that is just doing nothing with it, right? maybe that's just doing nothing with it and leaving it as is and we just move forward and you know it is what it is and if there is an ability to establish that legal mechanism to keep it um and or withhold
it from being build on you know that's an opportunity too but I definitely agree like let's have a conversation with the county I don't think that conversation's solely just to look at preserving you know the land for a certain species but maybe incorporating
it into, you know, preservation of green space, which I think the county, you know, ultimately I think it's good for them, too, to uh, you know, look at this as as a as a preservation initiative, you know, because they're developing a lot, too. So, I think this could be a
win-win for the city and the county. >> Yeah, I mean, I'm okay having the conversation. I agree. And currently, it's a liability for the city. I mean, I'll throw it out there. It's it's a junkyard. It's a dump. It's a homeless camp. It's a liability for the city. And
so, I mean, as much as yes, the animals are there and I'm totally pro saving the animals. I have coyotes in my neighborhood because of all the development out west. So, um, but it's a liability for the city right now as it stands. They pulled out a trailer full
of garbage and there was probably five more trailers of garbage back there. So, we have to figure out what to do with it. And if it does turn into some sort of preserve, it would have to be fenced in or something because if it
retains because of the liability issues because it's it's literally a junkyard back there. So maybe maybe there's >> maybe there's an opportunity where we you know we we have that conversation with the county and transferring it but
you know striking some type of agreement where you know maybe it's not developed upon they don't want to do anything but now that that uh liability so to speak or maintenance >> accountability is on them you know I'm not
>> swapping for Ka Park. >> Yeah, I'm okay with that too. Like I think there's opportunities >> obviously you know they have their agenda initiatives and you know if there's something that's synergistic with our strategic plan I you know why not I think um I think it's I think we
need to do something and that something is a conversation with the county and maybe you get those ideas and then and then if it's something feasible and realistic then let's bring it on on the agenda and talk about it >> right. Yep. Vers versus uh you know, I'd
rather like hash this out now, let staff go back to the county, you know, have those conversations and then if there's something that you know has legs, you know, let's let's discuss at a meeting. >> Yeah, I agree. I'm good with that. >> Me, too.
>> Okay. If there's uh nothing else, guys, this will conclude uh tonight's agenda review. >> All right. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, staff. >> Yep. Thanks everyone. Have a good night. >> Have a good night. >> Good night. Bye-bye. >> Let staff go back to the county, you
know, have those conversations and then if there's something that, you know, has legs, you know, let's let's discuss at a meeting. >> Yep. I agree. I'm good with that. >> Me, too. Okay, if there's uh nothing else guys,
this will conclude uh tonight's agenda