what we'll do is call the Braden city council meeting on Wednesday March 12th 2025 to order thank you Madame clerk the first item on the agenda this morning is a proclamation which I'll read on behalf of the mayor government Finance
professionals week March 17 through the 21st 2025 whereas the Florida government Finance Officers Association is a professional association founded in 19 19 37 and serves more than 3,300 professionals from state county
and City governments school districts colleges and universities Special Districts and private firms and whereas the fgfoa is dedicated to being your professional resource by providing opportunities through education
networking leadership and information and whereas this government Finance professionals week sponsored by the fgfoa and all its member governmental organizations is a week-long series of activities aimed at recognizing
government Finance professionals and the vital services that they provide to our state and our community and whereas during this week government Finance professionals throughout the State of Florida will be acknowledged for their hard work dedication and Leadership now therefore
be it resolved that I Jean Brown as mayor of the city of Bradington Florida to hereby Proclaim March 17th through the 21st 2025 as Government Finance professional professionals week and extend our appreciation to the
government Finance professionals here in the city of Bradon for their dedication to our community sign Jee Brown mayor all right who do we have to accept this coming forward Finance people like to be behind
the scenes mostly right so since you jumped up Heidi it's your turn or Linda no don't don't make her don't make her speak yeah um mayor and councel and
Mr Perry so this is a a good honor a great honor for us to recognize our finance staff and you're looking at it like this is the entirety of our finance staff well M it's Maggie our new new new hire um extremely dedicated you know they do a lot of work that a lot of
people don't see um if you come in on the weekends I guarantee you you'll find two of them here and uh you know Linda and Heidi in the last several months have spent tirelessly hours number of hours getting our finances wrapping up
the year end um getting our act for produced having changes come out of left field from them a couple invoices that you know we Rel late on but they get it all squared away they tighten it up they put it in a box put a bow on it and for the last 50 years we've got we've been
recognized for their hard work and dedication so I just want to show my appreciation and um have Heidi come up and say a few words but I can do it from here don't [Laughter] worry um I just want to thank you all
for the recognition um I have a small But Mighty team and I just um I really appreciate all of their hard work and dedication to could do without them thank you
anyone Miss Coker I just want I just wanted to express my personal thank you I know y'all are unsung heroes and I know I've been here and been surprised to see you on weekends and evenings and so thank you Miss Coachman yeah I I
wanted to say the same so ditto to all of those words and yeah I catch y'all here on Saturdays and Sunday I think once too great job thank you we appreciate you miss more um I I want to give you a shout out for taking something that's
super complicated and helping guide us through it and it's a process and I don't think any of us could do it without you all so appreciate you vice mayor Kramer thank you for keeping the money moving
payroll Mr Perry thank you mayor Cel I just want to put in my Kudos I work down the hall obviously from these folks and actually watch them work it's it's a it's a Marvel and pleasure to watch them work they're dedicated they're Innovative uh some of the things that they're implementing um in the past as
well as now into the future will show great uh process Improvement and efficiencies for the city when you look at a $200 million budget and the the the bread of what we do with that 200 million to serve our community on behalf of our leadership and the distribution
of those funds the accountability of those funds major public safety operations major public works operations and projects and trying to handle all that to handle that much with just this staff it is pretty impressive for me and when I got to the city I think we were
kind of down to like four people but we our budget was considerably less and we did a little bit less too um at this point what we do we do very efficiently the it's awardwin as Lance talked about about and again it's it's so cost effective and cost efficient on behalf
of taxpayers that I would basically put these folks up against any Finance government finance department and say that we get a lot of bank for the buck so I express my appreciation to them personally and professionally and uh keep up the good work I enjoy working with them and the only the only problem
I have is on Saturdays when I tell them to go home they don't listen to me so you know but no it's uh it's great to see you know what what happens in the city we we kind of get all the outside looks from the public you guys don't ever get the the Kudos that you deserve
because one of the things that we've done especially in my five years as mayor now are coming up over five years um is we've got a lot of projects on the board and a lot of things going on that this council is is really supporting and going through compared to the previous
five or 10 years so we appreciate the effort because there's a lot of moving parts and without you they would keep moving because they wouldn't get paid so keep up the great work and we really appreciate it and speaking for Miss Barnaby she's under the weather today but I know she'd be up here giving you
the Kudos too so um thank you very much and and uh keep up the great work so thank you you want to get a picture real quick come up here and we'll stand up behind you I pushed your chair back that would be
[Laughter] danger do we need to turn sideways Dave thank you appreciate you guys thank you madam clerk our next Proclamation is sunshine leak Mark March 16th through the 22nd
2025 whereas James Madison the father of our Federal Constitution wrote that consent of the Govern requires that the people be able to arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives and whereas every citizen in our
participatory government has an inherent right to access government meetings and public records whereas an open and accessible government is vital to establishing and maintaining the people's trust and confidence in their
government and in the government's ability to effectively serve its citizens and whereas the protection of every person's right of access to public records and government meetings is a high priority of the city of Bradon and whereas the city of Bradenton
is committed to openness and transparency in all aspects of its operations and seeks to set a standard in this regard now therefore be it resolved that I Gene Brown as mayor of the city of Bradon Florida to hereby
Proclaim March 16 through the 22nd 2025 as Sunshine week and will ensure our citizens continue to have public access to government records and information to increase information provided online and electronically and to ensure that all
meetings of deliberative bodies under its jurisdiction and their committees are fully noticed and open to the public sign Jean Brown mayor thank you and who do we have coming forward for this Mr Bill Ackles and staff of
one um thank you it's been said or it's been told to me uh Florida's open open access laws are some of the most complex and open in the world I don't know about the world but I do know this is a responsibility that in the State of
Florida you don't take it lightly um in my years as the rmlo each of you have expressed that commitment to open government time and time again and so mayor city council Mr Perry Mr Williams or legal counsel the administrative
staff my trusty willing or unwilling prot I don't know everybody here at the city that works so hard to uh ensure that the records laws in this state are adhered to fairly and equitably to everybody thank you all we appreciate it
thank you Bill and I know that uh there's a lot of things that happen that you know maybe aren't as pleasant every day that you get blamed for or don't get blamed for but one of the things I'm impressed with is we have nothing to hide and people may come up and say that or they may email that but if there's a
record it's going to get gotten in the right way to that person and it's it's very important to to maintain that integrity and you do that every day so thank you for taking care of that so yes vice mayor Kramer as someone who worked
with you quite a while I want to commend you on your composure because it is quite often that people who are requesting public records are not requesting they're demanding and they demand them right then and they think that some how you or all of us are
magically able to create these records and have them at our in our backpacks or something uh thank you for keeping your cool in the face of um outside pressures I'm I'm glad I'm doing that sometimes I'm not so
sure Mr Williams so I just kind of want to reiterate everybody's appreciation uh Mr akles does a phenomenal job with the public as a as vice mayor said um and he's very to the letter of the law and and
it's very um you know there's no there's no emotion in it it's just very matter of fact and we're going to get the the information that's requested um and he does a phenomenal job of tracking it making sure he follows through with it making sure our our directors and leaders provide the information that's
been requested um very dedicated individual um have him on a couple special projects because of his uh dedication and uh attention to detail and then maraville um is is as he mentioned is Protege so at some point
bill will will retire hopefully not not too soon but uh we have uh you know we want to make sure that we have somebody that is trained by Bill to make sure that that Legacy continues throughout the city so thank you very much thank
thank you uh Miss goer just I want to definitely um you know it's it's a big responsibility and as you mentioned the Florida law is very complex and you have such a command of it it allows me to sleep at night knowing that I'm covered
so thank you all right thank you very much let's get up here and get a picture I don't want to re it up M right there you guys get right in the middle push maybe push the microphone down thank you you help with that all
the time too thank [Applause] you madam clerk there are not any presentation presentation scheduled today all right thank you and now we'll go to Citizen
comment CIT citizen comment will be accepted during the citizen comment portion of the meeting on any a non-agenda item agenda item future agenda item or topic of relevance to the city comments will be accepted on the public hearings at the appropriate time
and today um we only have one public hearing but um the second item is not a public hearing it's only a first reading so we have um one citizen comment at this time which will be by Patrick penich please come forward state your
name your city of residents and you'll have three minutes good morning good morning Patrick kostic 109 23rd Street rington um I want to just comment on a couple items one one as you mentioned uh items that either on the agenda or soon
to be on the agenda but first I want to talk about the sunshine week Proclamation uh I I really hope that soon we change the arbitrary rule of three minute speaking there are some people that need more time to communicate their message in whatever fashion and I think although there needs
to be limits the 3 minutes is much too constraining uh for this process I want to talk today about the proposed ordinance 40 4058 which is chicken ordinance uh decisions I realize that many of you have opinions and maybe have
already made up your mind on the March 12th and 26 proposed ordinance however I want to just cover a few facts uh although there may be many opinions or decisions I can assure you that we've lived with this experiment this beta experiment for the last seven months
with having chickens in our backyard we chose to move from Florida from the north I also have property in Tallahasse and a few other areas but uh we wanted to come to Bradington because it is a friendly City we were assured that our outside space is living space in Florida
uh it's not under this example we have chicken smell chicken feces floating in our pool during floods and heavy rains we have uh roosters crowing and roosters and maybe even chickens I'm not sure but we can assure you that that takes place almost
on a daily basis and for sure on the weekend at early morning hours uh so that peaceful possession is in danger I realize that some people desire an agrarian lifestyle one that allows more connection with nature I've lived that
lifestyle and where livestock and poultry are abound but that's not the city of Bradington by my observation most most Lots in Bradington are one4 to uh 1/5 to one4 acre that's
8,712 ft to 10,000 40% of those lots are consumed by homes driveways or sidewalks there's really not room for chickens in this environment with 44 seconds left I'll just get to my point I'm opposed to this
ordinance for many reasons but I also think it's pretty much discriminatory in that single family residence is in the proposed ordinance meaning if I live in an apartment a duplex or a condo you're not going to afford me that right and I'm probably the one if I'm in that
environment that could most financially benefit from the raising of livestock or poultry in this case chickens so I would like to improve the quality of life in brington not degrade it and I would not I would request in my final
three minutes three seconds here that you not approve this ordinance thank you thank you sir um I have no other citizen comment so Madame clerk there's any comments anyone want to make any comments I'm sorry I know we'll be possibly discussing later all right
Madam clerk item six is the consent agenda and we will be moving Item B to item a and item a to Item B so it's just switching the two the order so staff is requesting approval of
item a through S all right chair will entertain a motion Mr Mayor I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda items a through S yes all right is there a second second second all right any further
discussion hearing none we'll start the vote in Ward five yes one yes three yes four yes carries four to zero thank you madam clerk at this time I'll administer the oath anyone wishing to speak during the
following public hearing please stand and raise your right hand do you swear or affirm the factual statements and representations which you are about to give to this board will be truthful and accurate thank you welcome Mr dong good
morning PowerPoint opened up we've been through many of these I believe so many more to come so I think there's kind of we know kind of what it is and it's what it is yeah so this is a request again for a sidewalk cafe with
alcoholic beverages at 316 12th Street West and this is resolution 25-24 and planning case pln ds-24 d00 00007 here's just some basic quick information of the property um this is
Jack's Wing Company um new business in downtown burington we're happy to have um it is in a T5 zoning district with an urban core future land use um he currently does not have a Sidewalk Cafe unlike the other ones you've seen but he wouldd like to have that opportunity to place one out there in the future Mr
dong that business that was there before had one they used it did yeah but we don't transfer these so going on ahead and he's getting a new one uh so here's just a quick location map um of where the uh business is located City Hall is actually right up here to the on the
upper right hand corner and here's just a proposed layout um the area is 15 by 10 or 15 by 19 he will be putting out four tables with eight chairs there'll be no busing or hosting stations um he is requesting to allow two tables remain on the sidewalk
with when the business is closed um they'll be placed adjacent to the building and locked together Mr Joshua hash is here right now I'm gonna have him come up real quick he is the owner of Jack Swing company and he can talk real briefly about his proposal and um if you have any questions for him then
I'll come up and wrap it up okay thank you just please state your name and your city of residence uh Joshua hatchin and pal Med Florida all right thank you do you have any comments or I don't know that there's probably too many questions because we've been through many of these
pretty straightforward and it's not something we want to use on a day-to-day basis obviously if it's not being used for a couple of days at a time we'd bring it inside we have a storage facility set up with Tom the building owner already so we can get it off the street so it's not an ISO and it's not being used just tied up all the time um it just gives us the ability to have
that a little bit more visibility with the uh the public especially when we're doing uh farmers markets other events on Main Street it just gives us a little bit more outside seating um and also a place we don't allow animals inside cuz we we are a full restaurant and so it gives a seating for people with with
animals outside to to kind of hang out there too and then just as a side note we are a beer and wine only so we are not a uh bar we are a restaurant with this that beer and wine license all right any questions all right thank you thank
you all right I will run through this pretty quickly since we've seen a few of these in the past um here's just a quick zoning map T5 zoning as mentioned before or future land use is urban core um here's the sidewalk definition or Sidewalk Cafe definition it's
basically where food and beverage is served from an adjacent cafe or restaurant in this case it' be a Jax and it is where the patrons are seated outside enjoying their uh food and beverages um sidewalk cafes are actually a permitted use in the T5 zoning District um with the exception that if
you do have alcoholic sales um you have to have a special use permission through city council and that is why we are here today day um there is also a 20 seat limit and he is below that calculation at a total of eight um here's just a quick site plan again that I had up
before showing the layout here are some photos um of the business um he does have the bump out which is kind of nice it's kind of hard to see on this photo because it kind of Blends in but the car is parked up against the bump out so there will be some tables out in this area here and
also up here so he'll have the 5 foot minimum traversable space which meets our code and ADA requirements um the comprehensive plan just talks a little bit about um encouraging sidewalk activity including sidewalk cafes um and under policy 1.2.5 it does
talk about that minimum 5et of clearance um on the sidewalks um these are just some areas out of our land use regulations when it goes from the form based code to the land use regulations talking about sidewalk cafes seating um talks a little bit about um having maintenance of the
sidewalk which we do have our teams downtown keeping our sidewalks looking great all the time um but there's also some things in here about Assurance um and insurance indemnification agreements there's a lot listed under land use regulations that need to be met um shouldn't the approval of a Sidewalk
Cafe be passed by city council um there are some general standards under 3.3.1 of the land use regulations um again this falls under the special use category um with the downtown area being built it is a little difficult for these Property Owners to meet some of these
such as landscape separations so we kind of move past those um but there are other ones that need to be met under 3.3.2 um he does meet these it these items um and then we'll move on to really the criteria um that city council
and also Planning Commission need to use when they make their decision on sidewalk cafes with alcoholic bever sales and that's under 3.3.2 point5 um it talks here about a little bit about um Ingress and egress um you know location and design of refu which is
already established in this area talks about utilities screening and buffering signage um all of these items are met by the applicants um when we have these come forward through uh Planning Commission city council and item K is the consistency with the city's
comprehensive plan responses to these criteria were also put in the staff report and um so you have it on record um with your uh City CC packet so under resolution 25-24 um city council is encouraged to evaluate the requests based on the provided criteria as well as input from
staff the applicant and the public it is in staff's opinion that this request is consistent with section 3.3.2 point5 of the land use regulations and also the design element of the comprehensive plan Planning Commission did meet on February 19th um to review this case they did
recommend uh 40 um to approve it with stipulations and these stipulations are very similar to what you've seen before um with the exception of C where he is only requesting for two tables to remain on the sidewalk but with this one is they have to get their indemnification agreement um back to the city within 30
days I've already sent that off to Mr hatch to start that process that they maintain to clear pedestrian Pathways of 5 feet on the sidewalk and that includes for seating and tables um that the property owner obtain all necessary licenses from the state um
sometimes there is an extension of premise license that is required if you're having sales of alcohol on the sidewalk so they need to make sure he has that in hand um we do have the team like I said that cleans the sidewalks downtown but if he does decide to do any sidewalk cleaning that any solution be
uh reviewed and approved by the Public Public Works Department and if there's any increase in the seating of The Sidewalk Cafe um that city council will approve it and that is pretty much what I have questions short and sweet comments apologize if I talk fast all
right so well will open the public hearing anyone wishing to speak anyone wishing to speak anyone wishing to speak hearing none we'll close the public comment chair will entertain a motion Mr Mayor yes sir Mr vice
mayor I move to approve resolution 25 24 with the stipulations recommended by staff second all right and I hear a motion by Mr vice mayor Kramer and seconded by Mrs Coachman any other discussion hearing none we'll start the vote inward
one yes three yes four yes five yes carries four to zero thank you very much Madame clerk item 7B is the first reading for ordinance 4058 an ordinance of the city of Bradenton Florida amending chapter 14
Article 1 Section 14-4 of the city's code of ordinances relating to keeping live poultry allowing for the keeping of of chickens pursuant to the terms and conditions contained herein providing for permit requirements providing for
penal penalties for violations providing for codification providing for repeal of ordinances and conflict providing for severability and providing for an effective date and the second reading and public hearing for ordinance 4058 is
scheduled for March 26th okay all right um I know and we heard that gentleman talk under citizen comment so I think there you know is going to be probably some more discussion on this at the meeting when
we come down to the public hearing so and if there's adjustments or changes or things like that that can be done at that time as well um to the ordinance and I talked with Miss singer about that earlier so you know we'll probably get more comments and it'll be important to
listen and try to come up with a plan that meets you know all neighbors and neighborhoods and that from what it's going to be so thank you madam clerk item AA is the emergency procurement report Mr Perry thank you mayor council
I'm here to give the emergency procurement report and I think it's good to give you a little bit of background on these emergency purchase uh purchases themselves uh they basically started after Hurricane Milton I think the first one was
10624 and now here we are uh really going going through the LA the the the three that came in since the last Council report and you're looking at a total of probably 50 items that had to be addressed as emergency purchases that
were related to the storm season that we experience out of those 50 items a rough estimate of cost is about $4 million probably in repairs the reimbursements for those costs will come in two forms generally speaking that is going to be
through our our our Inland insurance policy because we have property damage insurance for Inland Marine coverage and so when you look at re roof repairs and the like there's a whole list that public works and some of these Finance people that were in here earlier have been putting together to go through our
insurer we've had several meetings including last week with the insurers themselves who have I believe it's about 17 claims or so um that are related to the storms and there's multiple types of repairs in those storms so the first thing that's required because FEMA will
not re reverse if you have private insurance um items a through G which I won't get into but those are the reimbursable FEMA categories is the insurance and so our the good news is is that we do have insurance for a good amount of these losses there's there's
uh deductibles and minimum mandatories for various ones that FEMA will reimburse the deductible in certain cases so the the safety net here and the fallback position is the FEMA reimbursement as you know and we've discussed categories A and B which is
basically debris hauling and also protective measures were expedited reimbursements and so the city tries to get at least 50% of that money back very quickly and we have actually um that that that total was on the order of
about 67 million so if you remember at Council Mr Williams gave a report where he estimated probably about 10 maybe a little bit more in damages to the city and total costs related to these storms 10 million that is um these emergency
purchases represent probably about 4 million in total just as an approximation of me looking at the list of those 50 items um we have received some partial payments from the insurer they're working on some claims and they will be rapidly paid opposed to FEMA
that has a more protracted type of reimbursement but moving to the claims today um and emergency purchases we have three basically on 33 2025 we have clarifier number three and that is a $106,000 um repair to clarifier number
three in that particular instance our clarifiers continue to this day to have problems with processing solids and some of that is an engineering deficiency where the clarifier can't waste to the digestors and so if it can't process it
it puts the solids back into the oxidation car parel which is the first phase of Wastewater management don't want to do too deep a dive and so that's slowing our ability to do it what this particular expenditure is for is to connect the clarifier to advanc uh
digestive processes um at the plant and really the way you do it is by putting a fairly large 8 in pipe between clarifier 3 over to the digestor and connectivity to the other digestive so you have connectivity and you're you're fully um
completing the solids removal process p and Kent who's the contractor on our nuc clarifier gave us a bid for this um and it came in at 106,000 it that piping is all over overground um it doesn't have to be trenched and laid in underneath um
and it involves both 250 ft of piping a series of valve fittings and the labor associated with it so that's that particular matter we do believe it will considerably help us with the processing removal of solids ultimately leading to back to getting the plant fully
functional as a matter of its processing capacity um and that's an important thing the second item is three March 4th 2005 which is list station pumps again our list stations took pretty severe
damage throughout um the storm some of them were underwater for prolonged periods of times and that put strains on the electrical components the one of the biggest electrical compon components in a lift station is the pumps themselves this $91,000 purchase was for two two
pumps those a 440 volt pumps for a total of 880 in capacity if you think about it most of the stuff in your house runs on about 110 electricity this is very high capacity pumps that pump millions of gallons per day capacity and so uh that
is for the list station improvements and that was done by Barney's pumps the pumping company who we contract with uh lastly 3 on 35 2025 uh Mr Bruner discovered and made repairs to the metal siding and flashing on the roof and
fascia sides of some of our buildings over at the sanitation department off of 17th Avenue barely minimal purchase there of $4 million probably completely coverable you know with our inland marine policy itself how much was that Mr Perry that was
$4,620 you said 4 million so I I am so sorry the millions and the get a little bit uh connected right but uh I knew what you meant but I'm sure you did right yeah and and and and I have to report this to you weekly which
I've tried to do fairly diligently I've triy to provide you additional information so with some background obviously that kind of does a deep dive on things as to the repair itself the reimbursability of it the cause of it and where we move from here as far as the benefits uh that information is required for all emergency purchases
pursue to our policy for purchases saying 2 2 37.2 and with that I'll stand for questions all right so questions will come and then uh but then we'll ask for a motion to approve yes sir right so I don't even think that's necessary under the purchasing policy Tam shaking her
head I have to give a report I authorize based on emergency and that's the thing so is there any comments before I get a couple but I I actually have a question yes um with regard to those clarifiers is that um probably original design flaw
or is this something that is this going to be a Band-Aid I mean it's it's a great question I I I think I would characterize it and again as I have said probably a hundred times in the last few months I'm not an engineer uh but but but but as I'm told by the engineers and
this was recommended by Jacob's Consulting too from an engineering perspective for from our internal engineering uh folks on the environmental engineering side that for whatever reason that clarifier did not waste and did not have connectivity to
waste and so as I talked about earlier what it does is it rejects the waste that is in process back into the the oxidation Carousel which causes another problem um You probably to get deeper than that have to talk with an
environmental engineer that understands what's called mixed liquor because that's the phase and it's not the kind of liquor you would drink at a social club yeah it it it's actually liquor that is a term in in in environmental
engineering talk that that refers to um micro biology processing well I think one of the things that I've learned and going to that question because asking a lot of questions on that is are we banding it are we fixing it are we doing it obviously we've got a clarifier going
in the ground now that's a lot larger that will help some of that that will be with the updated technology that's out there now but to probably and what I understand it to be is the volume when it goes through
if the volume is normal it should work but with the volume being so um escalated at times that's what's not working so um yes and I agree with that question that is it going to be a bandid or is it going to be fixed this is a
bandid to get it fixed and because you put a Band-Aid on when you take it off you hope it's healed and this will be one of those things I Mr Perry you can kind of weigh in on that I think you described it pretty well exactly what it is um it was probably a design FL with it should have been connectivity but uh
one of the problems with those solids is is that the solids come into the plant every day and so there's a certain level of solids um as you're trying to get some out you're always having some come back in and the
microbiology basically of of the activated sludge part of a mixed liquor plant is that microorganisms will help break that down and eat the solids basically and if if you have dead and ineffective microorganism it basically contributes
to the solids the solids blind the filters ultimately create blankets and ultimately as a result of that can cause overflow at the clarifier is that about right you got it one o'clock in the morning when you're watching the Overflow right it's very interesting but
one of the things that that again shows collaboration ation is when we had some of our microbiology get overwhelmed and then the county came in and helped us but then we had the backto back stuff and all of that and the plant was sick
so now it's getting better but it's taking a little bit more time because it had got too sick because of the the threat to it which was the three you know people want to talk about two hurricanes we really had three major events and the first major event is what
put us behind the eightball uh and Debbie but we we we receded that plan as M's talking about one day before I think it was Helen came back uh no actually it was in between Helen we had the massive rain we had those massive rains right
and and as we were out there at 1: in the morning you could see the microorganisms which are a darker color coming over the top and so we receded the plant and it it it didn't work because of so much volume I mean you're talking about a plant again I always say is rated at 9 million averages about
somewhere between 6 and 7 million gallons per day and we were processing 25 to 30 million gallons at high volume flows as the mer pointed out for volume it kind of all connects together and and uh and you'd have to probably talk to a
an operator or an engineer for any more in-depth uh conversations right any other questions yes ma'am um I don't know if this is the appropriate time but I was going to bring it up in my ward comments um I'm getting a you mentioned lift station pump purchasing and I'm
getting a lot of inquiries regarding the area Bo for that was negatively impacted by the season questions regarding what we're doing to prepare for the upcoming storm season and in the word comments I was going to suggest that maybe we have
a you know a presentation to let people know what we're actively doing for the upcoming storm season lift station 13 I've been getting a lot of comments about that because actually thank you to whoever tidied it a little bit um it still
is very unattractive looking um so it still needs a lot of work but I do appreciate the the cleanup effort and it was certainly underwater um and so it's not really a question but more of maybe a request that in a future meeting we can have some kind of
presentation as to what we're doing actively for the upcoming storm season in regards to the plan the lift stations because I'm getting those kind of questions yeah and I I'll go to that Mr Perry um everyone recently last week got about some on workshops
and different things so that's something that I wanted to see what dates in April and May because we may want to try to have three or four on different times of what's going to as the staff to look into that because obviously you and I get a lot of those together um in emails
and talking to them and you know they don't feel like they've seen activity there's been a lot of behind the scenes and and again and I know it happens more in W two and W four that the Tide's the tide you know the pipes are clean but
the Tide's the tide and unfortunately we don't control the tide um especially when it's a king tide which we're having more of but but you know we need to show that and even we've got cameras that are going out still and cameraing the lines and making sure they're clean but that is a process that we're working through
and that's why I wanted to have a workshop because again this is more of you get a report in this but it's not the Deep dive where we can do in a workshop so but nope good question yes ma'am I just want to make a statement it's not really about the lift stations but the gentleman that was in
here earlier speaking about the chickens and the smell think about the people who live around the water treatment plant I'm not too far from it from one of them and um all of that liquor and microorganisms
and solids yeah but we I think we do a pretty good job considering what's all there to to minimize any discomfortable smells but it's worse than chickens one thing that I think that and Miss more
and and others not just you but but when you talk about what's going to happen with these lift stations there may be some properties that we have to purchase close to those that our homes now that if they're for sale it might be worth purchasing and making that as a pump
station on that property but the neighbors are going to have to understand it's you going to have the best of both right or the worst of both whatever you want to say but I think there's some opportunity to look at that and say okay um or do you have to close
a street to make it happen and that's going to be something that that is we got to make it better but making it better might also hurt a little bit in some ways yes I have been um I I agree with you and it might be a little painful but I do think that um you know
like I always say in hardship I try to find an opportunity and um I communicate when I when I see Parcels that are listed for sale or or have a for sale by owner sign I have been in the habit of sharing that with um Mr Williams and
sometimes even miss clayback so that they can analyze whether they'd be useful for that function no Perfect all right any other questions of Mr Perry on that all right moving forward for Madame clerk uh settlement of backflow claim
and acquisition of 504 9th Avenue West Mr Perry uh mayor council item 8B which is the settlement of backflow claim uh when you talk just recently about having to purchase property this is a property that we have to purchase uh this
particular home is a small residential property located at 504 9th Avenue West um it had a past history of annual flooding from lift station 17 lift station 17 is a master lift station it
it processes somewhere on the order of plus two million gallons a day this particular home is has a Mainline transmission from the lift station only 40 feet away and so what happens is that when that area floods the lift station
backs up and the grade in that area is I think probably around 12 ft above sea level and the water table is fairly close to 12T above sea level too so with rain type of flooding um that will contribute to the lift station becoming
overwhelmed when that happens it backs up into this home again it's it's flooded several times in the past because it's a low-lying area because of the engineering design um it was only 40 ft away you'd say why would people put a
a uh a connection box within 40 ft um of a master lift station and I think the answer may be is because a railroad track is very very closely related to it we actually did an engineering review of it to see if we could reroute that
particular lateral to the home uh along with the transmission line and it would require about a 400 foot relocation and so that would be quite costly too we initially um uh had negotiations with the land owner because when we flooded
her out we got an appraisal for the property that was roughly about I want to say $190 $200,000 um which was was I believe a fair appraisal in that particular neighborhood for that type of property um however there was also an over
$50,000 loss of of personal property in the home and it was documented with photographs it was flooded fairly High uh with Wastewater not just rainwater and to that extent we we took a look at it and say well let's take a look basically at purchasing it we were unsuccessful to negotiate with uh that
individual and she obtained an attorney we actually filed um a a a condemnation proceeding to eminently domain take the property and under the the the take laws of eminent domain in Florida we would be responsible for paying all cost
associated with the uh homeowner uh defense of the valuation of the property what that means is we would have to pay for her lawyer we'd have to pay for all of her hydrology experts her engineering experts and the like and a court would decide whether our appraisal was was
adequate um when you combine that with the property damage with these legal fees and Associated costs we submit it basically um an application to purchase the property to $290,000 we have a contract to do that thus far we're going to provide that
individual um a certain amount of time to get out of the home we've been paying um for for or temporary housing as well through a very variety of different funding sources the funding for this settlement will come through um basically the utility Reserve fund that
we do have funding for and ultimately I don't think we'll be Surplus in that property I think we'll probably be redesigning some sort of mitigation uh program uh with the use of that property so that's where we're at on this one all right questions I yes
ma'am I'm it's really more of a statement I'm glad we were able to work something out and not necessarily go the hard way um because I mean it was the lift station that was causing
the problem for for them um so playing a little hard ball and all that but I'm glad it's working out um it's not the first time we've paid more for the value of something um because it's so important so I'm I'm just just glad it
worked out and I'm I I've watched that home for years it's gone through some changes and um I'm I'm glad that it's working out U now we can fix face and fix face it and fix it yeah that's that's one of the Loose Ends of that
campaign I think is that type of problem right yeah well one of the things though and obviously being involved with Mr Perry and and staff that's done a great job at communicating and working with the family um but they purchased the house knowing it had had other issues
with it previously from another family member so it wasn't that they didn't know that that happened but um and that's why you know I was impressed with Mr Perry as he would bring it to me and ask me questions about what I thought or or go through it um but I thought you
know our first offer was pretty fair and uh it but to do it without having to go through all the lawyer parts of it and all the rest of it um and is you know the right thing to do but also it's been
something that was previous owner which was a family member of this family member knowing and it was an issue that was going to continue no matter what even if we fixed it without thinking it was fixed because um as we know stuff just doesn't flow uphill it flows back and we would have
had to remediate the house and we actually got I think two or three estimates for remediation cost and they were in the $75,000 I think was the low one which it was going to happen again if and this was before the storm so this really didn't have anything to do with and and
to come to the family's defense that bought it from their family member in some situations when people don't have a lot you know keeping family property in the family even though it may not be a mill
million dooll mansion it's important to them so to to their defense that they bought something that was damaged but it was because I mean that was probably the best they could do at that time but I'm glad we're working it out and it's you know more civil than going you need a motion for this yeah we do need a motion
for this and again I you know I I try not to get out in front of my skis when I do these kinds of expenditures to put the city on the hook for this kind of money I want you to know the the full aspect of it I don't sign contracts or do other things that I I don't think are in the interest of the city and and
authorized so I want you guys to know that there's a pretty compelling reason on this one Mrs Coachman yes maam um motion to authorize City administrator to effectuate the settlement of the claim
and purchase of the property located at 504 9th Avenue West for the amount of $290,000 and to execute settlement and transactional documents Associated therewith second second by Mr vice mayor
Kramer any other comments just lastly on that ynard has been reviewed by legal we' had Mr vett and from clock Walters as well as Mr Rell kind of be involved in that and uh there's a settlement agreement that waves any and all claims against the city uh in relationship to this so it is
the end of the road here all right so we have a a motion by Miss Coachman second by vice mayor Kramer to approve we'll start the vote in Ward three yes four yes five yes one yes carries four to
zero thank you and again Mr Perry I'll say to you and everyone that worked on that I know it was back and forth and the Motions get high but thank you for doing what you did on that to to get it settled and it's a fair price for everybody I really think it is so um all
right Madame clerk we do not have anything listed under Unfinished Business Council reports starting W five oh no okay oh wow
um our meetings are always interesting it doesn't matter how much is on the agenda um uh I first of all want to remind everyone that the okay let me find it the
Angola uh Festival is coming up and okay glasses it's this rescheduled from Yes it have been rescheduled um it's March 15th and 16th and it's at
Manatee Mineral Springs Park and um it's always been really really fun and and festive and and it it it has a very deep Heritage to it and um I'm just glad that
they were able to reschedule it all right and also I just kind of wanted to make a comment um you know when the gentleman spoke earlier and and he referred to us as being the friendly city [Music]
um sometimes it seems like yeah we are the friendly City and sometimes not uh we're friendly to some and maybe not so friendly to other but that's because you can't please everyone but I'm very very appreciative of how we work that out
with that family um in lowincome areas we can't think about why someone bothers to purchase something compared to how we would well I think we we might think if we are in
different situations um spending that money is is is well spent we we find 1.2 million to pay a consultant to tell us the best thing to do in terms of a very large
project and I think we need to keep in mind that when that project is complete and looking all nice and shiny we have our employees our staff that has to maintain it our Public Works law enforcement to
keep it safe uh because it is in an area and I'm talking about city park it is in an area that requires a lot of care uh and and requires a lot of the services that make us the friendly City so I I
don't I I don't know why it was on my mind on my heart to talk about it but I just feel like if we're going to be the friendly City to our citizens we also need to make sure we're the friendly City to the people who work here um we're friendly to people who live work
and play in the city of brington so I think we need to really look at how we finance department find money so that we can really let our employees that do the work that makes us the friendly City make the feel like we care that they do
that okay I don't know why that was on my heart but it was just on my heart uh other than that W five is alive all right word one uh not too much I just did want to give a big thank you to public works for finding us a location on the west side
for the recycling bin I was over there yesterday it was looking good hopefully it will stay that way I spoke to the neighbors told them that we you know we were going to try to be on top of not allowing the illegal dumping um so thank
you to public works for finding something on the west side because it was definitely missed um also if I just wanted to give a shout out to the Pirates went to the game yesterday it was a great game a lot of fun a lot of happy people there the stands were filled um so I want to encourage the
public if you don't have to take the opportunity to go to a game it's a lot of fun I think uh I think our history with baseball here in this community is really one of the little jewels in our Crown uh Crown in our jewels in our
Crown I guess um and I and I even if you're not a huge sports fan it really is fun to see the kids out there and the players are just so generous with their time and and you can tell that they appreciate
our city here so I just um want to thank you know all the his toric um efforts that have been done to to make pirate the Pirates and and leom field what it is and um encourage the public to enjoy
it as well because it really is Dice and um that's it all right board three thank you sir um want to remind everybody that uh in addition to spring training games next
week is spring break for man County Schools so that uh that's all right I just I knew you were here I felt it coming from you you just forgot to mention it um you're thinking about what you're going to be doing I think it's probably it um but be mindful there's uh
traffic might not be quite as heavy but you might see a lot more children out and about so be careful getting around town um last week at my other job uh we had an event uh where we had to declare
code red on our campus I want to thank the chief and her Personnel uh the Sheriff's Office and their personnel and actually a father who is uh a canine with St Petersburg Police Department who heard about it and came down to assist and uh I just want to thank them
all for helping uh a safe outcome it was a long day it was a situation we haven't had there before and I know the school district's dealt with it quite a few times um and think even BR Christian's recently gotten a few but uh I'm I'm
happy to say everything came out well at the end um I want to wish a happy birthday to Bailey he was his dad you met I think a couple of you met his dad at the game the other night and I think it may be somebody else's birthday up here right now
oh if Mrs Barnaby was here I'm sure we' be singing but that's up to the rest of the council if they want to sing or not I will lead if necessary all right thank you that's than mayor Kramer Miss Moore thank you
councilman uh Kramer um I uh I was going to mention the back to Angola Festival I am also going to be attending I completely Echo your sentiments about the importance of honoring our history um I have an
upcoming tour of the uh wastewater treatment plan on Friday that you reallyit weird to say that but it had to be rescheduled when I was ill and I appreciate everyone right Muk
boots which of course I have um um I wanted to give uh Mr Scott Williams a shout out I know he's not here right now but his supervisor is and um I've personally he has been of great assistance to me and I know that many of
my neighbors have also given me compliments on um I've had to refer people to him and he has been very attentive and provided good information um so I just really appreciate his efforts to help people as they kind of continue to rebuild and figure out what
they're going to do with their um properties so kudos to him um and then the the last thing um actually and I apologize because I I'm gonna be kind of surprising the chief about this question um and I I don't think that
officer Gideon is here but I've been getting and I don't know if you all have been but I have been getting a ton of commentary on the red light camera um thing and I wanted to just point out a couple of things that I've been hearing about the program to see if maybe you know my my observation is that it's
probably like a work in progress as my guess and I know that it's a vendor that we employ so I'm thinking that maybe there's just some things that we might have to tweak with the vendor um but the comments that I was getting that are concerns involve I don't know if there's a way to notify people um I've heard
from at least two single moms who received several tickets in a short amount of time so not enough you know they get the um they get the notice and by the time they're getting the notices it's like they've gotten like three one woman even told me 10 officer Gideons
was wonderful giddens I'm sorry um he was um he was really great in being responsive to the to the two that reached out to him they both both of these women told me that they worked with him and that he was very helpful um
but my concern is a bunch of people that are not you know thinking to themselves that they should reach out to him for that kind of assistance um so I don't know if there's something we can do about people getting a flurry of the tickets before they realize they have to modify their behavior in that area um
and then I think that at least one of them mentioned to me that this was when I had 10 that the thing for her that was super confusing was she has children of a certain school age I can't I believe it was Elementary or middle but the
hours of school are different for the elementary and the middle and the high school so they don't always know what speed limit they're supposed to be adhering to was the feedback I got um I don't know if there's a way to
somehow put more signage or to let people know where they are to kind of help with that a little bit I'm going to take it a little bit at first and and uh if that's okay because I've driven through every speed zone that we have with the cameras in the last two weeks
um every one of them starts with a blinking light and says the times there was some in the middle that didn't have the daytime speed you know between the non-blinking lights so if it's 30 or 40 or whatever else so I have talked to to
Mr G about making sure and some of them are County Roads 43rd in front of Braden Christian and that but the speed signs are before them and after them Ballard has it um different there but again it's 11 miles an hour over the posted speed
limit we know speed kills and if you're going faster than you should you got to slow down and I mean 11 miles an hour isn't insignificant when you're talking about 15 miles an hour and and I I loved what some of the County Commissioners
said about if 55,000 people are doing something wrong we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater you try to fix the problem so what you're bringing up is a good point but if somebody got 10 tickets or 10 speeding of 11 miles an
hour over at the posted time you know you got to slow down and I know people are in a hurry and anxious and that but I I just I've never apologized for trying to make people abide by the safety in a school zone and maybe I have
a different view because I've seen the 5-year-olds and the seveny olds that got hit by cars going going too fast and maybe I have a different view but it's a view that I'm going to you know always support I support it red light cameras for not the abuse of a right turn on red
but the and not the way the cameras were before but I have always supported the safety in the areas that will protect the lives of my children my grandchildren your children your grandchildren and so I just think that
you know we got to pay attention to where we are and slow down you know I you know and then and I know when we did the red light cameras there was an opportunity and our officers that uh researched them or reviewed them looked
at those things they didn't give the silly just because it was a ticket you get money they made sure that people and I had one guy call me on that and say you know and one the red light camera or the uh school zone camera and he was going um 17 miles an hour over
and I told him I said well it was during this time and he goes yeah it was actually when the light was flashing and uh he said ' I paid it because I was speeding and he goes now I slow down or I find a different route you know so I'm just saying I'm not but I mean again I've I have a different View and I
probably will never change my view because um sitting with there with those you know and it's just a a process of my livelihood over the years and and career I know it was really more of the just you know it's a new program so this
is just the thing I was hearing from people and if it needs tweaking or if there's a way can improve it then I agree 100% that's why I said let's get the speed limit signs so will help it's it's you you fix the problem you don't
try to just throw it out in my opinion so miss Coachman yes um and we're not I know we're not done with your stuff oh yeah no but it's good to talk about it I think yeah if we're going to talk about that I need definitely um only we
can the one thing I want to ask was prior to them being actually issuing citations wasn't there like a warning period and they were told were they told
then you were speeding one of my funeral directors at the funeral home got the warning in our car so it came right to me and he was speeding and but it was a warning so you know because it's right in front of the funeral home in front of Jesse P Miller right and he got we got
the warning so you know I said next time you're paying it you know because it is in the vehicle you're in I'm just wondering if the mom was going that way during that period and she got those warnings though I don't know they didn't you know that cuz I
mean yeah you but but and then the other was I don't know if on the citations it has contact information to call um obviously getting to you know discuss anything but
he's given the he's going to work within the benefit of the doubt yeah Miss Koker yeah I was extremely disappointed that the county just did away with it because I like I say no one knows if they're in the county or the city but I feel like the safety of our children if that's
what it we got to do that's what we got to do and um I agree I'm glad to hear that there are blinking lights at at everyone I think that's that's the the best part of it because it's so hard to look for signs because I don't have kids school age anymore and so I don't even I
didn't even know that they were I thought they were just different schools have different times so I'm glad to hear that there's a blinking light but I mean I stay committed to to the whole thing like the fact that you have 10 tickets and you're at least 10 miles over the speed limit I'd be embarrassed to tell
anyone I think that's awful um but anyhow I I I just wanted to weigh in that I'm still committed to it maybe there is some tweaking that needs to be done and if you had a law enforcement officer that was ticketing that person they'd be getting points on their license and losing insurance they had 10
tickets in school zones a lot twice three times of money if I could in her defense she has modified her route because of the confusion um so I don't think I mean to date the people that have reached out to me have not expressed a desire to violate law like
they have said I will modify my behavior MH but I I also have been you know like they're just right correct like it's stressful but at the same time has she modified her route by going slower down that route or is she going entirely different enely she's not changing her behavior she she's still spe I mean
still makes the children safer all right Miss Coachman did you have something yeah I I just now I can't really remember what it was um I think my comment was sometimes I mean the the flashing lights are at the beginning and end or whatever um
some people probably are entering the [Music] roadway in between those blinking lights and sometimes not thinking so I don't know if there's signage for cross streets to say hey during this time yeah there is there is on when you
go down sth Avenue on 40 43rd Street you come up to in the middle of that intersection there is a sign that says has all the time spelled out so again I think that's something we can do better you know and that's where um what do we
call Jeremy now Mr giddens yeah I mean he's not off Reserve officer still officer Mr G I wanted to I wanted not Captain but you know Captain offic Mr giddens is driving those he's looking at them and I was too because I want to you
know again I don't want to do anything that's wrong or trying we're not setting people up to get these tickets we're trying to set them up to succeed glass half full and don't speed in a school zone you know and um the you look at a
lot of school zones even during the day when it's not flashing there's kids out there walking from Jesse P Miller to Shake Pit there's kids walking to the daycare down the street doing classes with their teachers off you know so a school zone should be
a safe Zone and and again in know we've got to protect that part of it and if it you know my buddy said and I said well if you'd got a ticket going that you'd got four points on your license and then I think we had we've had a couple of Super Speeders that could have lost
their license in it and shame on them going 30 40 miles an hour over the speed limit it uh you know posted at the time you know I mean again not that everybody makes a mistake and you know they realize it but modify the behavior in a
school zone or go a different way way and then figure it out when the officer gets the ticket and you get points so now Chief I you guys have done pretty good you've earned your Police Commissioner badge today um you know the only thing I'll
add and and Jeremy left me some of his notes but you guys have covered a lot of it and and the percentages have changed as T we we review our data weekly but um you know at the end of the day these cameras are bringing down Speeders um I
don't mean taking down but bringing down speed issues in our city um the research shows it's anywhere from 14 to 65% I think we're trending right now at about 60% it it's it has become a behavior modifier for us and and that's our goal
our our goal all along I I probably get more calls than all of y'all um I get asked this every time I go and speak and I I always pose the question okay so we we know that speed is what kills um we we want to just ignore it so are we going to ignore like people running red
lights are we going to ignore people running stop signs all of a sudden now because we've applied a sanction it it's become it's become a big deal um I'm going to stand by them it it's allowing our officers to turn their attention
towards other issues problem intersections um blocking the Box issues things such as that and we did take care of of some of the repeat offenders um they still got one citation but but maybe not some of the other ones but my
goodness um that's somebody who has a speeding problem you know uh when we uh look at some of the feedback we've gotten I know we have six hearings coming up so that'll be interesting we have a magistrate that's going to um
help help regulate and decide those thanks to to codes for sharing those with us um but I'm not going to back away from from it I I think I think it's slowing people down in our city and we all understand that that has become a
problem Nationwide it it lends itself to some of the road rage that we're seeing out there and even even for our own employees as we all know that was going to be my question our employees other municipality employees other uh what would you
say I guess just say it Police Department Sheriff's Office Highway Patrol we're we're all all being held accountable I'm uh I'm I'm the bad guy with all this and I don't have a problem with it um just because you're working just because anything you're you're
going to be held accountable for excessive speed so um you know we've all been up on the interstate and seen those lights behind us those blue lights behind us um for a lot less sometimes an 11 over right FHP um they'll they'll they'll get you
for a lot less I I may know that um they will but you know I I think 11 over in in our neighborhoods and around our schools um it's it's what needs to keep happening I appreciate that you guys are supporting this program and and hopefully you stand by that no great
question so thank you yeah moving on for the rest of that that actually is it I um I am I have a birthday today and but you do not have to say we're I am feeling very uh very blessed and very loved um and I uh I
appreciate um all of you guys all right thank you everyone I just Echo everyone's sentiments on all of the activities that are going on everything we are and one of the things that that the gentleman that did come up in public comment talk about three minutes
we're three minutes you know you can go to five minutes you can go to 10 minutes you can go but a message can be got too what they say in three minutes a lot of councils and uh commissions are two minutes you know know and when you look around three minutes is a fair and if
there's different items they can actually talk on different items at times and if there's public hearing you know they can talk on their three minutes but I think that's you know very fair um some of the emails we get and asking to do a presentation for 10
minutes and that I do sometimes have to say you have your three minutes and that's important because you know when things are said over and over and and over again and they're not getting the answer they want because we're doing what we feel is right at the moment or by the law just to say it again and
again and again isn't going to change some things but no it I've always been and one of the things that that I will stand by is um we have done the same thing since I've been mayor three minutes to everybody no matter who you
are and you know again it doesn't meet a narrative of some people so you know it's just what we are um couple other things that that we are literally five months out from a storm and three over a
three Monon four Monon period three devastating storms to our community and we were five months out there's some people in the community as we know still are having the major catastrophe storm areas issues and
dealing with them but from what our staff and everyone has done through all of the Departments we're only five months out and we're in a good place one of the things that really made me think about that from the standpoint of um talking about a reserve fund that
we have that is there to help do some of the things that we needed to do and then get the emergency purchase and hopefully get reimbursed um was a good thing the forefathers of this city had had done and saved some of the money um there's some of our surrounding municipalities
that unfortunately didn't have that fund and have the money to front it where others came in and helped but you go out to some of the beach communities still on this West Coast of Florida they still look in areas devastated because they didn't have the means or the wherewithal
to actually get some of that stuff done that we did and that's what makes me proud of our councils and all of the people before us and then definitely our staff to say how did we set that up to suc seed um Miss Coker talked about
recycling in different areas you know one thing that we did several years back is we really really ripped off I don't even want to say the Band-Aid we ripped off the the Heming from your neck going because it was something that was
failing and we said we're going to try to fix it and we're going to really working hard we had a meeting with one HOA in her area that we talked to and you know because we did have to eliminate GT Bray because of the misuse
the county eliminated GT BR because of the misuse and we tried to do things we tried to educate and this neighborhood said well you know it's not there you know we don't we want to do it and Mr Perry and I have been looking at a lot
of different options and things to go but you know we know that the people that want to do it do it right others use it as a garbage can and that wasn't working either but we offered this community and I went to another one after Miss Coker and I talked with this organization or this HOA I went to
another HOA and basically offered them if they wanted to put one of those blue bins in their parking lot of their HOA we would work it out funny thing is neither one of them wanted to do that so it's like it's we're trying things but you
know we'll get back to Bringing things to this Council that I think we're going to be very happy with when the time is right that you know one of my promises always was if we can bring back curbside recycling we will so um to be
determined very soon um Wastewater when you look at things and you go over things you know Mr Perry and I and Council I guess to be invited to be public um information but we're going to give a talk in a couple weeks to um a group
that um has been getting some wrong information from some of the Publications that are out there and we're going to face it and fix it you know people oh you shouldn't go talk to them you shouldn't go I'll talk to anybody about it because I know what we're doing you know we know what we're doing and are we going to be able to fix
it today or tomorrow no but stay tuned for more on that too about how things are going to be fixed it's a it's a this it's fun because accomplishments and we talk about generational things that are going to change well some of the things we look at and we make a decision that
may not be the most popular to the very few is stuff that we're going to get out and it's it's coming I'm you know I get a little bit more excited but some things have to take time and Cycles um another thing with our
employees I've asked for which is all public record information on how we do things and pay and what we pay and contracts and all of that and I would be I would challenge the council to go and
ask for this Nilsa the same thing that I ask for in payroll in different areas of what some of our employees make and what they get with the package you know and it's not it's about you've got to work a business you got to work a process you've got to work things and you know
when you do things I would challenge you to look at those numbers you know and see what we're paying to some of our employees do we want to pay more absolutely since I've become mayor some of the the pay has gone up and it's with the council support and when you look at
when you're going through negotiations and doing things and you're up in the 30 plus percent you know I'm I'm proud that when I started we were at $45,000 starting pay for our Police Department that officer that started at 45 is now at 67
plus in three years that's just their salary that's not all the benefits most of the benefits double what their salary is what the city pays so you know I want people to look at the
facts and know what's happening and you know again can we give more we always want to give more but we also have to be good stewards of the money so I I would you know decisions have to be made and sometimes it's moments it's timing and
things will be right and that's something that we've strived to do and you want to go to Every department and do the same thing so but um moving on any department heads that want to say anything Mr May man say something I appreciate you saying that um and and as
always I'm so brief with what I say and I don't always clearly um Express what I'm thinking I'm just saying that we I'm just saying that we be mindful continue to be mindful cuz we have been I I it was just on my heart to say that
and it wasn't in any way to critique or you know criticize what we're doing because I think we're doing a great job but I was just I guess I was saying it so that we continue that no and it wasn't anything I was going to say that anyway because you know again when when stuff comes at us I want to be able to
say do I feel like I'm doing right or wrong and if I'm doing something that may not be the the most right I want to try to fix it and but you also have to make decisions at times and move forward so thank you um Mr Perry anything no sir
all right anyone else for the good um I would just like to to mention again please if you haven't already got dates to the The Madame clerk there that we want to look at those as much as possible because it's not you know if it needs to be on Monday morning at 8
o'clock Friday morning at four o'clock we'll figure it out because I do want to get a lot of this information out there and have the workshops so we can continue the progress because we've got a lot of good progress and legislatively I look out there at Mr Burton know there's a lot of things going on
legislatively not only with CRA and other things that we've got to figure out you know how we manage through things and you know again we've got to continue to do that fix it face it as we fix it and move forward so um hearing
nothing else we'll be adjourned thank you e