8:33 and uh we are here for the Braden City Council meeting on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025. Everybody please stand for the invocation and pledge by Councilwoman Jane Coker. Heavenly Father, we come before you with gratitude and reverence during this
armed forces week, honoring the brave men and women who serve and have served in our military. We thank you and honor their courage, the selfless sacrifice of those who put their lives on the line for their comrades and country, and
their unwavering dedication to protecting our freedoms and upholding peace. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Bless our service members, those on the front lines, those in
support, and those who have returned home. Surround them with your protection. Strengthen them with your pre presence and grant peace to their families who carry their own quiet burdens and strength and love.
Lord, we also lift up our leaders, both military and civilian alike. Grant them wisdom rooted in justice, compassion, and humility. May decisions reflect your guidance, and serve the common good. Inspire leadership with integrity, and
to always seek peace over conflict, truth over convenience, and unity over division. In all things, may we be reminded of the cost of freedom and the calling to serve one another. Let this week be not only a time of honor, but a
renewed commitment to justice, compassion, and the care of those who sacrifice for the good of all. We ask this in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, we'll call the meeting to order. Madame clerk, the first item on the
agenda this morning is a proclamation which I'll read on behalf of the mayor. Public works week, May 18th through the 24th, 2025. Whereas public works professionals focus on infrastructure systems, facilities,
and services that are of vital importance to sustainable and resilient communities and to the public health, high quality of life and well-being of residents, businesses, and visitors of the city of Bradenton.
And whereas these infrastructure systems, facilities, and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public works professionals who are engineers managers and employees who are responsible for operating, rebuilding,
improving, and protecting our city's transportation, drinking water, wastewater, and solid waste systems, public buildings, and other structures and facilities that are essential for the daily lives of our citizens. And whereas it is in the
public interest for the citizens, civic leaders, and children to gain knowledge and to maintain an ongoing interest and understanding of the importance of public works and public works programs in the city of Bradenton. And whereas the efficiency of
the qualified and dedicated personnel whose staff public works departments is materially influenced by the people's attitude toward and understanding of the importance of the work they perform. And whereas the year 2025 marks
the 65th annual National Public Works Week sponsored by the American Public Works Association. Now therefore, be it resolved that I, Gene Brown, as mayor of the city of Bradenton, Florida, do hereby proclaim
May 18th through the 24th, 2025 as Public Works Week, and urge all citizens to join with the American Public Works Association to pay tribute to our public works employees and to recognize the substantial contributions they make to
protecting our health, safety, and quality of life. Sign Jean Brown, Mayor. Thank you very much. Who is here to accept the proclamation? Good morning everybody. Brandy Colandrea, deputy director of public works and utilities.
There you go. Thank you. Um, so ladies and gentlemen, esteemed mayor, vice mayor, um, and honorable members of city council, today I have the honor to proudly recognize National Public Works Week, an opportunity to celebrate the hardworking professionals
who keep Bradington running smoothly. Public works is more than infrastructure maintenance. It is the foundation upon which our community thrives. These professionals ensure our streets are safe, our water is clean, and our essential services remain uninterrupted.
This year, we honor the 234 employees of the city of Bradenon's public works and utilities department who collectively bring an astounding 1,784 years of experience to their roles. Their expert their expertise guarantees the critical city functions
from engineering and fleet maintenance to park preservation and waste management operate seamlessly. They are the unsung heroes who answer the call day or night. Whether um excuse me, whether repairing a broken water man at dawn or responding
to emergencies in the dead of the night, these professionals work tireless tirelessly behind the scenes safeguarding the health, safety, and well-being of every resident and business. Their unwavering commitment ensures that Bradenton remains a resilient and thriving community.
National Public Works Week is more than a celebration. It is an opportunity to highlight the dedication of those who keep our city moving. Their contributions make Bradon a cleaner, safer, and stronger place to live and work. We extend our deepest gratitudes
to mayor, city council, and city administration for their steadfast support and recognition of our public works and utilities team. Your official proclamation shines a well-deserved spotlight on our professionals, reinforcing the vital nature of their work. Let us take a moment to express
our heartfelt appreciation. Public works professionals are the backbone of our city, ensuring that Bradington continues to thrive. Thank you for your service, dedication, and unwavering commitment to our community. Thank you. First hand I saw was Mr. Perry, Vice
Mayor, Council, um, Miss Colandre, and all public works. I just want to express our appreciation of public works um for the great work they they do. It's uh the largest um department within the city. It's about 266 out of about 600 employees when you compare you know
other departments of PD being about 165 and fire being about 75. Um it's sizably more frankly and it's it's 11 different divisions do a lot of great work. Um, you all may remember last Friday and the problem we had out on 14th Street and
17th Avenue. And when I got there, it was pretty hot and I watched our street and grains crew a water distribution. Ross showed up landscape grounds and I think we had about 18 people out there trying to get that fixed. Um, it was a a gravity sorine and they got that road um
repaired as best they could and reopened that night um with some millings on temporary basis. But those are the kinds of things that come out of nowhere. And these guys will work till the job's done. And and and at the storm season, immense thanks to all of you for working till the job was done. And the job still
isn't really done. We're still feeling the effects of it, but my heart and appreciation and respect goes out to these folks for sure. Thank you, Miss Coker. Yes. I I uh I just wanted to say as
we're going through the faces and fix it, obviously you're carrying a a a big load with that and we have to and everyone that I have ever interacted with, I always had such a sense that you truly were there um to help make the
situation better for our residents that you really do care about it. It's not just a job. You you really your heart was in it as well. So, thank you all. You are the face of us with a lot of the residents. So, I want to thank you for that.
Thank you. I've said it before. You are the ambassadors of this city because you are out there all over every inch of the 14 square miles. And you
do I was about to say a bad word, but it was a good way. you do an excellent job and and it's not always no, you know, no one uh usually says, "Oh, well, thank you for doing that." But they will definitely tell you something you didn't do. But we
appreciate you very much. Um without you, there's no city. There's no city and and the uh other like 165 BPD 75 fire you all are our ambassadors but
public works it's just what it says public works we appreciate you um um I don't want to belver the point because um you know it's the same sentiment but I just finished or I'm
just wrapping up a book uh called Strong Towns. And in it, it refers to humble leadership actually walking with the residents because uh the theory is that residents aren't going to tell you about the day-to-day minutia that negatively impacts their daily life. You they you
know people become resigned to something that they think is a difficulty and they're more likely to complain about something larger larger scale. Um and that is exactly what you all are doing. You're actually just walking with the residents. I I see you all out there when I'm walking my dog and um I'm it's
always a pleasant experience and it's always um compassionate and caring and I appreciate you all for that. Well, I have said this numerous times, but I'm going to say it one more time. A citizen may never need to call the police department. They may never
need to contact our fire department. They may not need a building permit. They may not need to interact with code enforcement and they may not ever call one of their elected officials, but they see you. They see you every
day. And the job that you do is beyond admirable. When we were dealing with the storms that we were dealing with and we were picking up people's lives in their front yard, you all were there. You never faltered. You did it many times with a
smile on your face when you're standing up to your knees and your waist in water. It was amazing. Thank you. Thank you for being the city of Bradenton to our residents. One of the benefits of going
last, and I try to do that with the ladies up here, is they say everything that needs to be said very succinctly and very compassionately. And so I just get to say thank you. Um certainly this year more than most uh we all were put to the test, but thank you all for
certainly standing up and being there for everyone in the city and everyone who visits the city and everybody who passes through the city. Thank you again. Mayor, could I ask for a photograph and everybody come up? Let's call the mayor in Italy right now and find out.
Yes. Everyone, please come up for a photo. Please don't knock over any cameras. Sorry, Brandy. Herd them up and get them all in 45° angles. 45 degree angles. Good to see you. I think
quickly people, I'm getting older by the minute. Ain't nobody want to see that. Let's get in. We're gonna have to stand on this. He's going to have to get a drunk. Maybe we should have gone to the back.
I'm gonna have to get you a little something. You're as bad as our former assistant fire chief always wanted to give me a boost. I would do that. Come on, Seth. He can do that. Snap.
Coming in the front. I see Brandy. Now I see the camera. The camera can see you. Turn around. Bill, turn around. You're taking a picture. standing on your tip. Come on over to the front. Suck it in.
Thank you. Very good. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. You got to get back out there before the city falls apart. Thank you guys. Appreciate you very much. All of you here don't fall apart. Seth Con, take care. Be safe.
Mr. Vice Mayor, just to close this matter out, I I thought Mr. Conn has is going to be retiring for a second time uh the end of this month. He actually started, I believe, in fleet maintenance with this city and went through uh his engineering degree at USF and retired
several years ago and came back and uh he basically has been a stalworth at uh at the city and their engineering department and we're tremendously grateful for his dedication of the basic part of his professional entire professional life with the city. So,
thank you so much. Thank you, sir. I know, right? We'll wait a few moments to move on. Good to see you. Like the crowd is stand up, sir. Yeah. We're just going to wait till you get out and cameras aren't blocked. Hurry. The city's falling apart.
like a receiving line. And that's probably what half of them really not quite. Good. Everybody working. All right, Madame Clerk. Moving on to
proclamation. Yes. Item 3B is a proclamation for Salvation Army week, May 12th through 18th, 2025. Whereas the Salvation Army has been serving people the people of
Manatee County for 102 years physically, emotionally, and spiritually. And whereas the Salvation Army is present wherever need is greatest, especially during times of crisis, where vulnerable citizens are more at risk of becoming
homeless, hungry, addicted, or spiritually tired. And whereas the Salvation Army invites the citizens of Bradenton to love beyond and help our organization continue to prove to provide life-changing aid by creating
and supporting programs to meet the needs of the community. And whereas it is fitting and proper on Salvation Army Week to recognize the tremendous impact of philanthropy, volunteerism, and community service in the city of
Bradenton. And whereas Salvation Army Week is an opportunity to encourage citizens to serve others with their resources and time during the difficult period many of us are experiencing. Now therefore, be it resolved that I, Gene Brown, as mayor of the city of
Bradenton, Florida, do hereby proclaim May 12th through 18th, 2025 as Salvation Army Week in Bradenton, and urge all citizens to give back to the community in any way that is personally meaningful. Signed, Jean Brown, Mayor.
Thank you. Who do we have to receive the proclamation? Good morning. Thank you, council. Thank you to Mr. Mayor Brown. I'm Monica Kut. I'm director of community relations and development for the Salvation Army here in Manatee County. And we are grateful for the opportunity to have this
proclamation for a very important week and what it represents. I am joined by our board member, Emerson Chappelle, and he would like to share a few words. Thank you. Uh, Mayor Brown, Vice Mayor, Council members, um, on behalf of the Salvation
Army and the board of directors, uh, we just want to extend our sincere thank you for the proclamation of Salvation Army week here in Bradon. Um, we are honored and humbled to be recognized uh, and grateful for your support. Um, the
Salvation Army in Bington has, as you heard, has been here for over a century, uh, servicing the needs of those in our community. And ju just to keep it short, uh, very sincere, heartfelt thank you to continue that service into 2025 and
beyond. Thank you. Thank you. Any council comments? Uh, I know, thank you for being here. Um, I know the Salvation Army's physical location is going to be transforming a little bit with a different mission here
coming up and I really appreciate what you're going to be doing spearheading that because it's a definite need for if you want to describe a little bit of it. We appreciate the partnership and we do look forward to the changes that are coming um gearing towards more of just a
family shelter. We know there's a little little time before that all comes uh together, but it's the partnerships with the other community organizations and those that are getting involved to help shelter everyone in need. And we know it's a daunting task in this community um to take on the homeless situation and
and all the things that are involved within that issue. Um, so we're just grateful for the partnership of the city, of the county, and like I said, the other groups that are getting involved to make sure that citizens have a safe place to go to. And we look forward to that evolution for us, and
we're excited about what that means for us in in different aspects and our growth and improving our facilities and having a safe, warm place for families to come to. So, thank you for your support and partnership and all of that. Okay. Thank you. If you please come up
for a photo. Last one. Thank you very much. All right. Uh, next on the agenda is presentations. No presentations? No, sir. Okay. Next will be council I'm sorry, citizen comments. Citizen comments will be accepted during the
citizen comment portion of the meeting on any non-aggenda item, agenda item, future agenda item, or topic of relevance to the city. Comments will be accepted on the public hearings at the appropriate time. The only public I'm sorry, citizen comment sheet I have is
from Barbara Pson Tersingi. And you have three minutes, ma'am. Yes. Good morning, everyone. I'm here today to for two reasons. Uh the water quality in the Manatee
River was undetectable this week. So everyone, every bird, animal, everyone is doing a great job for the E. coli in the river. The river is clean. And one of our fishermen took a snook out of the
river yesterday. And the snook round to here was this tall, a short Wow. So, that's really impressive.
But uh the other reason I'm here is to also invite everyone in our community who would like to come this Saturday um at 8:00 a.m. We're having we've pushed back our sunrise service to make
it 8 am because many people don't want to get up and be there at 7 even though it's beautiful with the sunrise. But we're having um a time of prayer for our community and inviting everyone who
would like to come. We have a cross um on our waterfront between our plaza, Long Pier, and High Street. And we just want to have people come in prayer. Um we're all concerned about the uh
Palmetto Bridge and we're praying um that the people that are in charge of this, the leadership will be able to find another way instead of the possibility of coming through uh Braden Castle Park, which is an elderly and
historical community. Um we believe in prayer and uh we're having weekly prayer on the waterfront because it's peaceful, it's tranquil, it's serene, and that is
our open air church, so to speak. And so, everyone is invited uh this Saturday at 8:00 a.m. and um probably next Saturday, too, and the one after that. But uh this Saturday definitely we just
love to have everyone in the community come in prayer for the best pray for the bre best decisions for the community and um moving forward. So thank you. Thank you ma'am. No further citizen comments. We'll move
to consent agenda. Chair will entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. Vice Mayor just uh for purpose of the record, I have had the opportunity to speak with each and every counselor regarding consent agenda items 6A
through uh O and uh we had sufficient conversations. I think I was able to answer most questions um with additional information when uh requested or necessary. Thank you. Move to approve consent agenda as presented. Second.
Motion and a second. Any discussion? Yes. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Uh yeah, on the six I keep manatee beautiful adopt a shore. Um they're identifying you want to then move to No, we can just
we can discuss the entire um Riverwalk Drive and Riverwalk Boulevard. I'm not familiar with those streets. Do we know if those are act there was no map attached. Have we clarified that? Does that would that change the agreement if
the streets are misidentified? Uh we did have the conversation about this. I think it was more of a scrivener error and a misinterpretation. This is basically an anop area type program that that keep manity beautiful operates with
different types of volunteer organization. In this case, I think it's called Rivers Runners, and there are a group of folks that run down on the river and they'll be doing cleanup there. Uh the fact that it has not maybe been properly identified um as the
appropriate, you know, area, they're referring to that area basically between, I believe, the hospital and and up past um uh the skate park. I I don't think it has significant um problems associated with it. And
again, it's a voluntary voluntary undertaking by a community organization. I don't Okay. I just wanted to Yeah, I I I call it the Riverwalk. I run it on myself. I pick up trash when I'm out there and do other things as much as I can. Um I didn't I think they were just
loosely referring to it with the incorrect nomenclature. Yes, ma'am. Um, this is the second I think that I mean, obviously they're a great community partner and I think they do fabulous work and I want to encourage them in everything they're doing. Um,
this is the second contract that has come before us that I also felt that would benefit from legal kind of cleaning it up a little bit and I don't know for sure if legal had an opportunity to review the specific one. At this point, I wasn't going to, you know, pull it and make it an issue. But
I do think going forward just, you know, a little maybe even a template that they're probably talking about Riverside Drive between I mean, but I I just don't think that the I mean, they're identifying a location that I don't know
that it exists. And if there was a map attached, I mean, like you said, I don't want to pull it off. I want to encourage all this, but that that's just my question. So, Mr. your preference. We can send it over to legal. I think Scott gets paid fairly
well hourly. We can expend that on this voluntary type of running group's uh uh commitment to do a job that probably is beneficial to the the area and the community and the litter. Miss Hoffman isn't here from Keep Manity Beautiful
who I believe signed the agreement. They are funded basically through various funding sources at the county as well as I think potentially the city. um keep manity beautiful to engage community organizations to do these things. Um I wish they used the right street name and
and and everything. I don't think it's really a street, but if you believe it be significant, let's pull it and and and and tell them they can't do it until we get it rectified. That was not my intent. I
just I don't know. I mean, if the agreement doesn't mean anything, then why are we doing it? And if it does, then I a job worth doing is a job worth doing, right? But we can pass it the way it is. I don't want to hold it up, Mr. Vice Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Um I I think we
could pass this. I think staff could get back with uh keep manity beautiful and say, "Please send us a map and a clarification." And that that should be sufficient. I don't know that we necessarily need to have legal go into it, but I
mean, not that I'm not trying to find work for Mr. read. No. And it and the agreement does say that there is supposed to be a map attached. So, as long as that gets added, that would seem to clarify it. So, let's do that. I'm fine with that. All
right. We've had discussion. We'll start with ward. Let's see. We'll go with W five. Yes. W. Yes. W two. Yes. W three. Yes. W
four. All right. Passes. 5-0. Next item seven. Do the administration of the oath, please. Yes. Anyone wishing to address city council during the following public hearings will please stand and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the factual
statements and representations which you are about to present to this board will be truthful and accurate? Thank you. Bless you. God bless you. Bless you. Good morning, sir. Good morning. Clicker to work here. Good morning. Greg Dong, assistant director of planning
community development and I have been sworn in. Um the next two cases you're going to see are going to be related to sidewalk cafes with alcoholic beverages. Um as we have been working on this diligently, we're getting near the end. Um planning commission has four going next week in front of them. So you'll be
seeing those in June and we really only have about two more outstanding after that which we're hoping to wrap up by July. So we're working hard getting them getting them through the process and getting them in front of you for approval. Um the first one we have today is actually 1166 Third Avenue West. This
is actually city-owned property. That is where Orange Blossom is at the corner of Third Avenue and Old Man or Old Main Street. Um, it is in the T6 urban core zoning district. Um, and as I mentioned before, it is a coffee house that does serve alcoholic
beverages. Here is a uh site or location map uh showing the location. As you can see, it is down here in the corner in orange. And here is the proposed layout that they have. Um they are have four tables outside with 12 chairs and the
area is about 23 by 85 or 58 feet in width. So I'm going to turn it over to Melissa Lily who is the owner of Orange Blossom and she can talk a little bit about the her business and the need for the Sidewalk Cafe and I'll come back up and wrap it up. Thank you.
Good morning councilmen and women. Uh I am Melissa Lily. I am from Orange Blossom Coffee. Uh we do sell alcoholic beverages, but that sounds so serious. We sell beer and wine. Um it's about 1% of our revenue. So um we're not there
serving or over serving. Most of the people get it to go as far as a bottle because we do um carry that license that they could take it home. And it's mostly the hotels that'll come over and get a bottle of wine because they're here on vacation or what have you and maybe an occasional mimosa on Saturday morning.
So, um, with that said, we do have outside tables, which is what the concern, I guess, is. We do carry extra insurance like liquor liability and things for that. None of our tables are on the sidewalk or in where people walk. We bring them in every single night, so
they're not left out for anybody else to trip over. And, um, I think that's about it. We've gone before the planning committee and now we're here to see if you will keep approving us to do this. Mr. Vice.
Yes, ma'am. I think what what you're seeing is we're trying to make sure that everyone is operating under the same regulations and parameters with our downtown and we appreciate you coming in front of us this morning. Um, you've you've had the chairs and tables out
there. It's just that with the regulations that we have, we need to make sure that everybody is following the same rules. And um I've been at your establishment several times. You have lovely staff and you never have uh anything in the way of the sidewalk. So,
thank you. I've just I just I just wanted you to know it's not like you did anything wrong. No, I didn't think so. No, I knew what why we're doing this and I live in the city and my other business is also in the city. So, I'm all for regulations and keeping things the way
that we're supposed to keep them. If I can put a buck in your ear. Yes. I would love for you to stay open when we have events in the evening. You know, our biggest issue has been staffing. Yes. Staffing. Staffing if um Yeah. So, we're
we're doing our best and yes, this year we did plan to be open for every event. Anyone else? Okay. Good. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. All right. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. So, I will run quickly through
the slides um since you've seen this dog and pony show a few times before. Um the zoning map again is T6 future land uses urban core. Um this is the definition of a sidewalk cafe. It's basically an outside area that is adjacent to a cafe
or restaurant that is um serving um the patrons within the restaurant or that are attending the restaurant or cafe. Um in the T6 zoning district, it is a permitted use. Um sidewalk cafes are, but they do have to come before city council if there is the sale of alcohol
and that is why they're in front of you today. And sidewalk cafes are identified as cafes with less than 20 seats. Here is photos of Orange Blossom um when the business is closed. As you can see, she does remove her furniture from the sidewalk. Um and this is when the
business is open. And I know there is a little bit of something here. It's actually a bicycle that was visiting the establishment that has some um items with it. So that is what that that is there. Um but this is when the business was open. The comprehensive plan talks about sidewalk cafes and definitely
encourages them in the uh downtown area. Um so that is under uh item two under policy 1.1.1 and then policy 1.2.5 and this is stressed throughout the comprehensive plan is to make sure that all sidewalks maintain a minimum of 5 ft of clearance
and that is to meet also ADA requirements. Again this is out of our land use regulations that just identify sidewalk cafes. I highlighted the area again which again stresses the um keeping the sidewalks clear so pedestrians have a clear traversible
space to get through and also meet ADA requirements. And it also talks about um removing tables and seating um when the business is closed. We do have some applicants that do come in and request a stipulation allowing them to keep some or all of their furniture outside, but
in this instance um Miss Lily is bringing her furniture in every evening after the business is closed. Um the land use regulations also talks about just maintenance of the area. Um also in assurance um making sure that we have proof of insurance and liability which
we will follow this up after approval today with an indemnification agreement. She'll have to have we'll get that recorded. Um mayor will sign off on it along with the clerk. Um and then there is a site plan attached to it that needs to be posted within the building. This also helps the police department should
they have any issues at the outside cafe or sidewalk cafe. um they can also come and charge people with trespassing if we get through this process. And I'll just kind of skim through the rest of this stuff. There's some general uh standard regulations in the land use regulations under
3.3.1. Um a lot of these are obsolete because this is a built environment downtown. These are more for um new businesses or new construction going in talking about landscape buffers and items like that. Um, as we know, Orange Blossom has not been a problem in our downtown area. Um,
it's been definitely a positive. So, they are definitely meeting all the requirements. And then under section 3.3.2.5, these are the criteria for review. Um, there are responses that were put in the staff report that is submitted in your uh council packet um
that we went through. Um, it basically it talks about ingress and egress. Um, again, off streetet parking is not an issue with this one. It isn't actually the lower level of a parking garage. Um it talks about refues. That's not going to affect that at all. Um everything is
good from the um staff's viewpoint under 3.3.2.5. And it continues on. Um there's quite a few questions that need to be answered. And item K is the is the key one here with consistency with the comprehensive plan. And as I shown before, um it is definitely encouraged
that we have sidewalk cafes in our downtown to um bring up the vibrancy of our community. So council is their consideration is to encourage the evaluate and the request based on the provider criteria as well as staff's input input from the applicant and the
public. It is in staff's opinion that it is found to be consistent with the um consistent of section 3.3.2.5 2.5 of the land use regulations and also the design element of the comprehensive plan. Um planning commission did meet on April
16th and recommended approval with a vote of 50 with the following stipulations. Um again this is that the site plan and conditions be on display and accessible during at the property during business hours. That the clear
pedestrian access points um remain and that is a minimum of five feet. that includes around tables and seating. Um that the property owner shall obtain all proper licenses and based on Miss Lily's testimony today, sounds like she has everything she needs. Um that any
cleaning solution be used that be approved by Bradon Public Works Department and any future increase in seating will again come back before city council for approval. And that is all I've got. Any questions for me?
Any questions? All right, fair enough. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. I would say the chair will entertain a motion, but I'm going to make a motion to approve. Wait, wait, wait. We have to have a public hearing. Oh, you're right. My bad. This time, we'll open the public
hearing. Any anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. At this time, I will make a motion to approve resolution 25-40 with the stipulations recommended
by staff. Second. Motion in a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, we'll start the voting in Ward one. Yes. W two. Yes. W three. Yes. W four. Yes. W five. Yes. Passes
5-0. Madame clerk. Item 7B is a public hearing for resolution 2541. Okay. Hello again. Hello again. Another sidewalk cafe. This one is now at 450 12th Street
West. This is resolution 25-41. Special use case 24-00008. you are going to see some cases still with the 24 number as we switched over to Asella and they are still uploading information. So, um don't be alarmed by the case numbers. Uh
this one is actually for Lo Barrel. Um so Paul Gardik, I'm always messed that one up. Um he is the owner. He is here today. He will actually speak on um about the business. And uh this is located again at 452 Street West. It is
in the T5 urban center district unlike the other case which was a T6. It is also has an urban core of future land use. Here is a location map of showing the location. And here is the proposed site plan. Uh this one is 13 by 22 roughly um
in size. Three tables, 18 chairs, no busing and hostess stations. and he is requesting to leave the tables on the sidewalk adjacent to the building and that they will be locked together um once they are pushed pushed up against the building when the business is closed. I'm going to turn it over to Paul real quick and he can talk real
quickly about his business and then I'll come back up and wrap it up. Good morning everyone. Greg, thank you for the introduction. Um, we've been operating this way since 2011. Uh, when we moved to, uh, downtown Bradenon, we filed our application then. It was
approved at that time. Uh, we've been consistently operating this way. Um, I realize we're just kind of going through the motions trying to get everybody on the same page. Um, we are requesting to, uh, leave our tables and chairs outside and have them neatly pushed up against the building. It's just easier for us at
the end of the night. Um, in addition, um, our outside seating is on file with the state in accordance with our liquor license. Okay. Anyone have any questions? I I do. Yes, ma'am.
Um, leaving the tables outside. Now, I understand they'll be secured. Yes, ma'am. You don't think that would encourage a layover or I mean will there be something on top of the tables also? We can flip them upside down to make it less encouraging
if if you'd like to see that. I still feel okay. Well, I'm just saying that it could create that. Sure. Understood. Potential. was more. My only concern with flipping them upside down is what time do you open and how long will they be upside
down? There's usually somebody there around 10:00. Okay. Well, do we care about that? I mean, I'm ass I think they've been like that since 2011. Has it been Have you had that issue? That's what I was. No, ma'am. There's always the unhoused
wandering around from time to time, but we haven't seen any grave issues. Yeah. And that was that was your that's where you were going with it. I haven't found anybody sleeping on the table yet. So, if that's what you wanted to know, I have I have a little question mark there. Potential layovers.
Yes, ma'am. Good morning. Um, yes, you have had your your um outside seating and as as what I said u to the lady with orange blossom, we're just trying to get everybody on the same page. Um, we appreciate the the
care that you give um to our community. I know that you do a lot. Thank you for um not for profofits and and particularly arts organizations in our downtown and I just wanted to say thank you for that. Thank you for the recognition.
Nothing for me. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Great. All right. Thank you. Um, again, here's just a quick zoning map. T5 zoning, future land use core. I'm not going to run through
all these again. You just recently saw them, but I do have to put them on the record. Just the definition for a sidewalk cafe. Um, unlike the other case, like I mentioned earlier, it was in the T6 zoning district. This is T5. It is permitted, but again, with the alcohol, um, it requires city council
approval. Here are some photos taken when the business was open. And there it is when the business is closed. As you can see, the tables are pushed up against the building and there was no one having a layover at the time. Um, comprehensive plan uh talks about
sidewalk cafes as I mentioned earlier, encouraging them and also maintaining the five feet of traversible space. Again, comprehensive or this is land use regulations. again talks about maintaining uh clear traversible areas and also um you know in this case he's
action for a stipulation to leave the tables outside um when the business is closed. So that can be a stipulation of approval by city council. Um just some more things about maintenance assurance out of the land use regulations under chapter 4.
continue with that. And then again, general uh standard regulations under section 3.3.1 of the land use regulations. And then under 3.3.2, again, this is a built environment. He's been doing this uh
having a sidewalk cafe for many years and we have not had issues. So everything's appears to be good with it. Again, these are the review criteria that um staff reviewed and also planning commission at their meeting. Um it's under 3.3.2. 2.5. Um, again, the staff
comments are in the staff report that was part of your packet. And again, everything looked good. Um, including the consistency with the comprehensive plan. Um, again, planning commission um of this is city council is to evaluate the request based on the provider criteria as well as
input from staff, the applicant, and the public. And it is in staff's opinion that everything appears to be consistent with the land use regulations and the design element of the comp plan. So, planning commission again, they met on April 16th, reviewed this one. They voted 50-0 to approve resolution 25-41
with the stipulations. Um, again, this is the site plan and having it on display during business hours. Um, getting the indemnification agreement. Um, no more than three tables to remain on the sidewalk when the business is closed and they are to be
placed up against the building unit locked with a cable lock. maintain the clear five feet traversible space at all times and that includes seating and tables and that they shall obtain all business licenses. Sounds like uh they
already have that and that any cleaning solution um used on the sidewalk be approved by public works and again any future seating or increase in seating be approved by city council. And that is all I've got on that one. Any questions?
Any questions? Okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome. At this time, we will open the public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to
speak? Hearing none, we close the public hearing. The chair will make a motion to approve resolution 2541 with the stipulations recommended by staff. Second. Motion and a soft second from Yeah, there you go. All right. From Councilwoman Coker. I'm sorry, Coachman.
Uh, we will start the voting in any I'm sorry. Any discussion? All right. We'll start the voting in W two. Yes. W three. Yes. W four. Yes. W five. Yes. Ward one? Yes. All right.
Passes 50. Here we go again. I Well, this is not a sidewalk cafe. It is not. No. No, it is not. All right. Greg Dong, assistant director, planning, community development. Uh, this request in front of you today is a special use request to
allow a club, otherwise reception event center at 1710 Manatee Avenue East. This may sound familiar to you. You saw one earlier this year at 1720 Manatee Avenue West. Um, so this is the second one we have. There's another
one in the pipeline, just FYI, that you'll be seeing in the coming months. Um the applicant here is Nikita Jackson. Uh I mentioned the address at 1710 Manatee Avenue East. The is zone T40 which is our formbbased code area. It's
general urban open with the future land use of urban commercial corridor. Um the existing use as a reception center. This property was originally permitted as a single family residence and was at some point transferred over converted over to a reception center and did not have city
approval to do that. So they are trying to get that cleaned up today with the special use approval. Here is a location map showing uh the location of the property. Um this is it's a little difficult to see with the print size on it, but this is a general layout of the
property or site plan of the property. Um the brownish area is where the single family home or now reception center is. As you can see, they had an original driveway put in with a lighter shading here, and then they have now added um crushed concrete for additional parking
areas around this. Here is a general floor plan. Um this shows how the house was originally approved. I apologize for the yellow. It's a little difficult. I was trying to transfer everything over so you could see. Um, but they're converting
basically the kitchen into a warming kitchen so they don't have to meet commercial standards um by building code or fire code. Um, they're converting the family room to an assembly room and converting the bedroom to an office and a living area to an office and they're
proposing to bring the bathrooms up to ADA compliance. Um, Paul Grievous is here representing the owners and he will come up and talk briefly about the project for you and then I'll come up and wrap it up. Thank you. Morning, ladies and
gentlemen. Um, I'm actually filling in for attorney Petruff, who uh filed this paperwork. Um, I confirmed with attorney Petro and my clients. Uh, Mrs. Jackson is not here, but Horus Jackson is also here to uh address any issues related to this. And we confirmed that with
attorney Petruff and the architect who's involved in this project as well that we are we will we stipulate to all the issues A through H listed on page 356 of your records at the end of the staff comments. Um just on behalf of the Jacksons, I do want to stress that they
have made every effort to be in compliance going back as far back as 2021. and they've had emails with Myra Schwarz, who was then involved with the zoning department, confirming that private events would not require permitting. After an incident back in February of 2024 was brought up, they
again confirmed with Michael McInness that private events would not have to require this. But because there's such a der of resources, event centers like this in Ward 5 on the east side, they're providing a a necessary resource to underserved the underserved community.
Um, there is a pending appeal of a ruling. Um, I think this matter will probably render it moot. Um, the issue that caused that actually was a private event. It was actually Mrs. Jackson's birthday party. So, um, we've gone
through everything. We intend to comply with everything. If you have any additional questions because the nature of the property is kind of maybe a little different than you're used to dealing with in, you know, urban core areas, uh, Mr. Jackson is here to field those questions as well. Thank you. Do you have any questions? Yes. Go ahead,
ma'am. Um, the incident that brought attention, what it was a birthday party, but what happened for it to be even noticed? I I have no idea. Uh, Mr. Powers, please step to the microphone. Sorry. Sorry. This is Forest Jackson, co
owner of the property. Co-owner. Yeah, it was Mr. Powers, our neighbor. He rode by like he always does, take pictures. He sends it to code compliance. They in turns violate us. Like I said, it was my wife birthday party. That's it.
And the violation was the number of cars. I mean, it was No, the violation is that we were having events for compensation. Gotcha. I can't charge myself now. And and but prior to that, this neighbor
didn't have any problems with Well, there was an incident with parking that he and I had worked along to put up no parking signs along with a a temporary fence up until we could u get the the property fenced in. So, we have made
attempts to set boundaries. And one of the stipulations, ma'am, stipulation H is that a fence will be installed, fence or hedging that the city approves will, you know, delineate the space from surrounding areas. There should not be any parking issues in the future. Ma'am,
and I I I intended to drive by last evening to see exactly exactly where it was in reference to Manitel. Your operating hours are will be from 8 to 10 on Monday through Thursday. Sunday through
Thursday. Sunday through Thursday and from 8 to 11 Friday and Saturday. Okay. And that's per the stipulation a um I understand. Um okay. Now one other thing if I may. Now we're we're also a
nonprofit. So we do believe in um um doing community outreach. We um would like to award scholarships to students, give out school supplies, and basically work along with you since you're in our war um in our ward to help facilitate in
any capacity that we could help you or or you know, help the community. We're definitely on board for that. and and referring to it as a club. I think that's what I'm struggling with um instead of an event space, but I guess that's all because of verbiage for the
um it it was a a a single family resident. Again, we had permission from Myra Schwarz, which was the planning um director at that time. She told us it's okay for us to have private events and that's all we were doing. And even when
in March filing a prior complaint for Mr. uh Mr. Powers um we confirmed from Mr. McInness that as long as it was a private event, it was not it didn't require any upzoning, didn't require anything. But because there is there are such a dirt of resources, there's the dream center, but that's about it in W
five. Uh because there's such a dirt of resources for various events, uh the Jackson's wanted to work through council and with the city to try to come up with an alternate location for some of these events. Um can I have examples of what the other events have been other than
the birthday party for your wife? We we um hosted a um community event for all the retired um school board employees and my wife, she did the decoration, I assisted with the um entertainment and we did this absolutely
no charge at all. Okay. And we were um trying to u do scholarships um for the students that were u getting ready to go off to school, but unfortunately our resources have been tied up in attorney fees.
And are there any types of events you would you would reject or you know what are the types of things that you'll do other than community things if someone wanted to have a a wedding reception or
a like we have allowed the space to be utilized for um religious purposes like baptism christening also um uh baby showers, first birthdays, things of that nature.
This is also our home, may I add? So, so we very respectful respectable of who we allow in there. Again, this is our home. This is where we live. But, you know, I have to ask this question. Oh, absolutely. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. School, so, you
know, kind of I'm good for right now. Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Moore. Um, my initial only hesitancy and I was going to ask I think there are the establishments in that area that have access directly off Manatee Avenue, but
do we have any concerns about and this might be first responder questions regarding access being right there by the C school crossing walk um on Manatee A. Um, that's already an area that people would really should drive slower
um and struggles with that. But so that's my first question, but then you just raised another question for me, which is if we approve the commercial use and you convert your kitchen to a warming kitchen, do you intend to continue to live there?
For the time being, yes. Is it? Sorry. I don't know if that's feasible. I don't know if that's I believe I believe uh council had stipulated that it would not long no longer be a live work unit or anything like that. I believe that was what attorney Petra Oh,
yeah. stipulated. Yeah. Yeah. It's not one of the A through H stipulations, but I think with the zoning change, that would be inevitable. Well, of note in the planned the floor plan, I think that's up there right now does have the bedrooms converted to offices, the living room converted office, the
kitchen converted to a warming kitchen. That's correct, sir. So, I mean, that's not it's it's an event space now. We're you're asking for it to become an event space, not a home with an event space. dual use, right? Okay. So, we would need some confirmation on that from you. I
assume that would be, you know, part of the stipulations regarding the, you know, A through H regarding its use. Yeah, that that won't be a problem. And then, um I I know I noted that there were letters of objection included, a reference, but I didn't see them actually attached to the packet. I don't
know if it's appropriate, but if it to the extent that it is, I'm not familiar with um with the operation. So, I just was wondering what the nature of the objection was. I don't we don't need to read the letters if we I don't know if there was a reason why they were not
included. I I apologize, ma'am. I did not see them in the packet. I think um one of the uh that might be a question for staff, too. Okay. If they have read the letters and could just tell me briefly what mainly she would Okay, go ahead. Well,
whichever they were omitted. Oh, that's okay. But is it Can you just kind of briefly tell us? Okay. Um because where I'm going with that is um you know many times I think that what we're trying to determine is whether or not there's a neighborly dispute versus an actual
consideration that we have to make when we're permitting the Yeah. She was more or less concerned um about the hours of operation for the the um patients. Uh they normally close at 5. We won't be getting started Monday through Friday I
should say. Um, for the most part, if we our events would take place on Saturday, so it shouldn't be a conflict. However, what you've put forward does include starting at 8 a.m. Sunday through Thursdays. I think logistically,
um, I I again, I was not here at the planning commission meeting. Attorney Petrif was. I think they came up with that time timeline, a proposed time of events because you have prep for those events. you may not have a lot of attendees. You may have, you know, people setting things up, especially if
it's a small group, a nonprofit, being the former president of a non a nonprofit. I understand that when there's an event, basically it's, you know, it's a handful of people doing all the leg work. And what what a professional crew may do in an hour, you know, a group of people in a nonprofit, you know, doing it on their own may
take, you know, three or four. So, I I don't think having not been there, I can't, you know, say if they thought that was an issue or not. I know the concern with the hours, if I'm not mistaken, was making sure that you did not have events running too late, particularly on week nights. Right. Right.
So, I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Um, so I've had mine up for a while. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. I have I'm understanding then, ma'am. 8:00 a.m. 8:00 a.m. until 1000 p.m. Sunday through Thursday.
And Friday and Saturday, 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. 11:00 p.m. A that's allowing setup time. But what time would your events start? I mean, I understand some some events they
can prepare in in an hour, some may need four hours, but what's the earliest an event would start? Um, probably maybe around by 1:00, but again, we're not doing events during the week. It would be mainly on the
weekends. If there's anything going on during the week, it would be more or less like an office meeting, things of that nature. It wouldn't be no reception or nothing like that because you know it's closer to school. That's where Absolutely. And we're very considerate of that. Yeah. No, we wouldn't do that.
Mrs. Coker. Yeah. I guess uh not being very familiar with the adjacent properties. What is it all residential around it or is it school around I mean what what are the adjacent properties? Manatee Elementary is immediately is not immediately resident property on the
other side of 17th Street. um east. Um there is a vacant medical office that is currently I guess up for sale at 1720 that was part of the manatee memorial u group physicians group that now has been vacant I guess for several months now I
believe and um so there's everything around it is commercial that stretch of avenue east is three lanes each way it's it's divided um traffic should be really impact on traffic should be nominal because notwithstanding the square footage I If
I'm not mistaken, you you and Mrs. Jackson want to keep the attendees capped at 42, I believe, is what you 42 is correct. Yes, 42. So, they're not going to they don't intend to rely on off-site parking. They don't intend to adversely impact traffic to any
significant extent because, you know, that area traffic is usually not an issue. um there the way the property is situated there there's quite a bit of parking and stuff uh space between the main structure and the back lot line. So
I think with that and the time restrictions in stipulation a I think there should be nominal impact on you know the surrounding you know neighborhood. Thank you. How many cars would you say you could park? 14 is what we allowed it
that kind of matches the number of occupancies. They're they're working in conjunction with an engineer that you know does all those calculations m Yeah. We want to stay small. Yeah. Okay. It sounds Yeah. See her tab. You don't
see this? This has been up for 10 minutes. You don't see this? Good to know. Behind. So, we're going to go to Mrs. Barnaby. I apologize for my poor temper.
Um I I mean I'm looking at this and we just recently had something similar approved in my ward. However, the facility was much larger as far as event
space and the average home and I'm assuming this was just an average home that was there, a single family home. Is that I mean I'm about right on that. I've had 42 guests in my home. My
husband has a large family and we've done Christmas Eve numerous times and uh it's tight. It's very tight. And I have concerns about this because this was this was not designed
to do this. It was a home and it's being broken into this and I have concerns about the parking. I kind of feel like you're putting 10 pounds of potatoes in a 5B sack and I'm not sure I can support
this, but I would want to see if there's any other public comment that comes forward. If I if I may, ma'am, just really quickly, um, Councilman Barnaby, you need to use the microphone or else it won't pick up. Sorry. Um, if I may, when they developed this property and
they they built this, they built it in conjunction with the city to allow for this kind of dual use and um the now called assembly room is substantial. Uh, it's very open as as the calculations
from the engineer you hired would indicate and I think even the city had determined that it would be able to hold up to 97 people correct comfortably and they're willing to cap it for the express purpose of making sure that it is not like that ad hoc party you talked about with your family. I've I've hosted
events at my house and I've had similar issues even, you know, with that and I understand this place was actually designed in an open fashion to allow this and they worked with the city as far back as 2021 with then um playing director Schwarz.
I I understand all that and I also understand that you have um capped the time of the events at 11 o'clock, but I also know human nature. So, the event is over at 11 o'clock and people stand around and talk or they go
out to their cars and they talk and they don't necessarily leave until 11:30, 12:00. Um, that's just human nature. So, again, I'm not sure I can support this. That has not been an issue. Thanks. We
have an attendant on um Mrs. Moore and then I have comment. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um to uh Councilwoman Coker's question about you know just general what's the area kind of like my observ my feeling is I'll just generally say
that it seems appropriate to me that property that affront that that fronts Manatee Avenue has a more commercial use. I think that's the more appropriate use of property that fronts or that actually is on uh Manatee Avenue. The
school is to the west. Uh other businesses are to the east and there is residential in the to the south. Um again my only my main concern was access uh directly from Manatee Avenue, but I do think that that wouldn't be an
insurmountable problem for me because other businesses seem to make it work. So, you know, unless an expert told me, "No, this is really a bad area to have access, you know, ingest and egress from Manacey Avenue at this particular location." Um, you know, I would rely on
that um those opinions. Uh I think though that, you know, just just to be clear, once you convert it, you cannot live there and it will not it will no longer be zoned for a single family residence.
Um and I think that uh you know to the point about parking and and occupancy I think we got to the occupancy by way of the parking and as long as we maintain you know that you know just to be clear also if you had more people than that that again is another violation. Um so
that anyways but I just wanted to respond to Miss Coker's question about the you know the nature of the area. Um, and just let you all know my opinion on any redevelopment in the east side ward four or five. I think it's appropriate
to look at properties that front manatee avenue in a more commercial use than single family residents. Mr. President, I would like to make some comments. Go ahead. Um the property history page that we were provided in our packet um notes
that since 2019 you started looking at doing something on the property in 2019 to have an office building. I don't know what happened there, but then in 2020, um, everything from 2020 until May of 2021 was just for a single family
residence. And then a month later, you inquired about using it for commercial use and then by all appearances did start using it for some type of event center, whether it was private events or not. It looked like you started doing that without any type
of permission. And so that's my concern. Uh, I do have a concern with the occupancy. I think the idea of keeping it to a small number is nice until it doesn't happen and then it doesn't happen again and then it just becomes the norm that it is the 97 that I
believe the fire marshall has probably indicated is permissible based on the size. But I'm not I I don't like bad actors continuing to be bad actors. I'm not saying you're a bad actor. I don't want to see something come in
that I think was done surreptitiously potentially um and then us be forced to change through zoning. Yes, ma'am. Um to your point, yes, that
is a lot of commercial on Manatee Avenue and this would be appropriate to be of that nature. Um, I'm taking it all in. There is a need in W five for event space or office space, you know, for
people to have, you know, who work from home, but they want to have a meeting space. Um, and I I of course I'm not supposed to do things by my gut, my gut feeling, but I I do feel like you would try to keep it keep the events
small. But should it ever become larger than that, you'll be in violation if but I don't know if we can make that a stipulation. If fire said it, they can have up to 97 But if so, you know, just to have it
capped to 40 42 42 um got a lot of concerns. One, it the purpose that you're you're presenting is admirable. I mean, War Five does need
that. You know, the community does need space. I often have to use my church. Sometimes I don't want to use my church because the event is not church. Um but you know my my concerns though
are well actually it's probably not really a real concern because during the day it's mostly setup time, not the actual events or or small meetings. So that won't be anything nefarious, you know, near a
school. Um, I'm I'm I appreciate what you're you're you're trying to do. I'm really sad that they misled you. you were misled and you were operating, you know, for a number of
years, you know, um, in violation. I I'm that bothers me because then that kind of taints anything you bring, you know, but we have to keep in mind that you were led to to to do so, I guess.
Um, I'm good. I just Mr. Vice Mayor, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, Mr. Rul, Mr. Rudo. Yeah, I just I following up on Councilman Coachman's comments. Just wanted to clarify a couple things. The the maximum
guest being limited to 42. That's based on their available parking on site. So, that is a calculation under the code and that's where that number comes from. the current stipulation does have the potential for them to go above that. Um
I think we heard today that that they don't intend to have any off-site parking. So that may be a change that we want to make to the stipulation that it's just going to be limited to a maximum occupancy of 42 guests. I think that's something that that we could do.
Um the other thing I just want to clarify is the property is not being reszoned. The zoning will stay the same. What we would be what the applicant is seeking is a special use permit to specifically
allow for the event space use. That is a special use permit required in that zoning district. Um so it's essentially an additional approval that that goes on top of their zoning. So to the extent that we we do want to limit it and I think it would be appropriate to
prohibit residential use of the property while it is being used as an event space we would we would want to add a stipulation for that. Yes ma'am. Mr. Rutil getting this special use does that stay with the land or the minute that they leave is that
null and void? No that runs with the land. Yes. So it would be forever and never amen. Yes. Unless someone came in and and wanted to change it to something else. Correct. Yes. And it would the
stipulations also run with land. So the whole the whole shebang. Well, and then my question is because this was a home. Um, has the building official looked at
this as far as ADA compliancy? And is there a I mean, is is it built up? Do they need a ramp to get into anything? Are they prepared to deal with people uh in wheelchairs, everything that a commercial building would have to go by? Has is that been thought out? Has that
been done? I I don't know. Um, and then just one other thing. Um, yes, you can say that it can be 40 some odd people based on the parking, but what if they have 10, 15
passenger van show up and that allows the parking for that, but then you know they've got more than 42. Um, if I may address some of these issues, ma'am, I will say that, you know, this place was designed and the plans are actually included in this
packet. It's rather substantial and the entryways and all are mapped out on here, I believe, and everything was done in compliance with ADA in the the possibility this could pos, you know, be used for a purpose like this in the future. Um, regarding the attendees, I
mean, the number of attendees versus the number of parking spaces, I'm sure, madam, you've you probably approved any number of permits for use, like the one that's pending on the west side. Um, you know, where, you know, there's you kind of, I hate to say it, you kind of go on
faith based on the number of parking spots available, the number of off-site parking spots available. Um, there would be staff on hand that would ensure that things are done in compliance. um at the events. I presume if if nobody else, at least you and and Mrs. Jackson would be there, correct? To
ensure that, you know, there was compliance. Um and I don't mean this ugly, but my faith is in Jesus and in my husband a little bit when it come when we sit up here, we get told all sorts of things and then the proverbial waste product can
hit the ventilation device at any point in time and we're the ones that are held accountable. I understand that ma'am. I think the process of going through and complying with all the steps through A through H would I think serve well to show that their intentions are in the right place
that they you know they I mean this is substantial. My guess is you haven't had this many stipulations on other special use permits in the past. This seems 1720. I could be mistaken.
They I mean they intend to comply. I have been here a while and we do put a lot of stipulations on people just so you know. Okay. Okay. Stand this. I mean I I I I don't want you to feel special because we do come up with a lot of
reason. We have we we take information from the public, information from the neighbors, and we do come up with stipulations to try to make everyone's feel heard and to make whatever happens happens there in accordance with the
wishes of the council with the stipulations. C could I just make one other comment? Um I have um spoken with um Sheriff Wells and um it's a great need for that community um to have some
type of mentor program. He had assured me once I get a program in place, he would do all he can to support me. So, not only are we uh trying to do events, we're also trying to do things for the community, especially um the underserved
area. Yes, ma'am. Um may I ask Mr. Dong to come up and answer a couple of questions about the current zoning and the future use and then how special use overlays that. Um can you explain a little bit what the current permissible uses under
T40 are? And I understand that the use as a club is a special use. The zoning stays the same. I'm trying to wrap my head around not using it as a single family home anymore, right? And and now moving to this commercial use. Um to the extent
that we have to have faith in that sort of thing. I'll just um let you all know that my thought on that is that's you know code enforcement violation. And so if there's more than 42 people in there, the neighbors are going to complain and the process of code enforcement is going to have to address that. Um, but I just
want to clarify what we're doing as far as because it to me the the special use lines up with the urban commercial corridor future land use designation. So can you explain a little bit about T40 and Sure. The T40 is our
general urban open. It is a really a mix of a lot of things from single family residents to commercial. Um why we choose chose the club definition. Our code even our land use regulations with the case you heard earlier this year does not address event centers. Now the
formbbased code does address convention centers and that was a discussion based on information we when we were going through and preparing um that was a discussion and it is actually actually an exhibit. Um let me find it here. M
the dialogue between the applicant and Myra Schwarz the previous planning manager. Um there was conversation about a convention center at that point. it's doesn't meet the definition of a convention center based on the size of it. So, it kind of went, you know, went
quiet from what I could find in my research. Um, so then when we had this things started happening, we went down the Avenue with the club, which we also did with 1720 Manatee Avenue West because it feels like it's about the
best fit we can find at this point. Um, even if the use in the formbbased code is not defined in our co in the formbbased code, the PCD director can request that it come before through or go through the process as a special use. So no matter what, we would have
probably been in in front of you anyway. But from sta staff's perspective in reviewing this and that's why if you look at the staff report, we felt the stipulation or it met the intent of the comprehensive plan for the UCCC because it is urban commercial. that area is
quite commercial over that direction. Um it is a hightraic area. Um we've also did not feel it was going to be a negative impact on residential in the area. So I'm I'm hoping I'm answering your question. I think so. Yeah. I just wanted to clarify what is going to be
permitted. Um because for me when you remove the when you convert it to a warming kitchen I you know I don't think it's appropriate for someone to live there but I I think is appropriate is not necessarily that is a building code and fire code. I'd probably look over to the assistant chief on that. And that is
to basically um from my understanding at our DRC meeting um if they put it as a warming kitchen, it does not need to be brought up to commercial standards, right? Which is a cost savings in the end for the property owner. I just want to make sure if I'm saying I don't think they should live there, I'm basing that
on, you know, an actual code or ordinance that that falls more under the fire and building code than it does zoning code. We do not regulate kitchen types and zoning. Okay. I don't know if you could um add on anything to that. Just I've been going back and forth with the fire marshall. He's, you know, more
knowledgeable about codes than I am, but uh if the Mr. gentleman over there was occupying that as his residence also, I believe he'd have to get the building sprinklered also. Yeah. Uh, one of the processes that will
have to occur should this be approved is they will have to get a change of use because this property was approved as a single family residence by our building department. Um, so they would have to go through that whole process and bring it up to current standards both building and fire and that includes all ADA. So
that is a process they would have to still go through and and let me ask the similar project on west side. They also have to do sprinklers and all of that. No, because that one was an outside
assembly place or for a reception. Uh they had limited stuff that that uh space was also previously um identified as commercial. So they were already meeting commercial standards. They had no kitchen on the inside. So they did not have to worry about that. Everything
was catered. Yeah. So that one's a little bit different where this one was permitted as a single family residence. So, it's basically two different two different things going on. Yeah. If if I could, that was a law office, right? Right. I was just trying to remember.
Right. And they and they do they did ask for most of their event space is outside. Outside. I remember. Um I I just wanted We still may have a problem with that from what I'm hearing with the neighbors, but
yeah. Okay. I just wanted to clarify that since we have been comparing the two and it appears that legal feels we might be lopsided on this one and I just
wanted to make sure one note I want to make is in the stipulations that are listed stipulation C that was approved by the planning commission 50 I want to make sure the owner and his representative are aware
Fair. A change of occupancy permit must be approved, work completed, and final inspections approved prior to using the interior space for events. The permit must include intended use, occupancy, life safety plan, and required documents as listed in Florida
building code. So, you understand that that says you're not using this for any type of events until all that work is done. Correct? And that's the stipute. Okay. Just want to make sure that's on record. If you want to come up and say yes, that'd be great.
Just to clarify one thing, Mr. Jackson's birthday was on Sunday and he'd like to have a belated birthday party, not inviting, not paying any customers or anything like that. Would there be an issue with that given y'all probably have birthday
parties for family? And I'll look to Mr. Rutes on that. That's probably a question for staff. um my and I have not been involved in the code enforcement process, but there is a pending code enforcement case.
There was a decision made by the magistrate that's been appealed. So, there are a number of outstanding issues related to the ongoing use of the property. Um, I wouldn't want to opine on, you know, one particular event or
not and whether it could be used that way when we already have a decision from the code enforcement magistrate. Okay. Have a question. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So, currently it's their private residence and we're holding them in violation for having a birthday party at
their house. And now you're saying he can't have his pro. I mean, I guess I'm a little confused. I mean, so what can he do? It is um as Mr. Jackson indicated, the violation is also uh because having uh
events for compensation, so not private parties. So, if he's living in the residence and and a member of that resident is is having a birthday party, that's not going to be in violation. But it's when you're accepting compensation um to have an event for other parties
that the violation occurs. And that's what was brought up at the special magistrate. And they did discuss whether or not being a nonprofit would make any difference, but it's still a matter of accepting uh compensation. and they are running um as they can out of a single
family home, a home office uh to be an event planner. So they can continue to do that. Um but they can't have the congregation of people uh in part because of safety issues. Uh they do need to convert the the residents before
they can start having uh uh events for compensation. So a birthday party for somebody who lives at the home, that's fine. Okay. All right. Thank you. Now, ju just keep in mind the compensation violation was from my party
that I hosted for my wife. There is no proof, no receipt. Is Mr. Powers here? Someone Hold on a second. Is that what's is that what's in front of the magistrate now? Yeah, we're not going to read litigate. This is so someone we're going to discuss. Okay. It's in front of the special magistrate. You can make
your argument there. Your representative can make your argument. Thank you, sir. Yes. Are there any other questions? I just want to remind the council we haven't even heard staff's presentation yet. So there may not. And we haven't had the public hearing. So sorry my
fault. I just dived right in. Very very informative. So I'm I'm happy to sit and wait. All right. Again, this is the T40 zoning district. future land uses UCCC which is urban commercial
corridor. Um as mentioned before um you know this use uh they had a violation that started on February 20th of 2024. That's when a complaint was filed with code enforcement. Um code enforcement did go out there. There is information in your packet related to the magistrate
hearing which is exhibit Z exhibit O. Uh here's a little bit of a history of the property. There was a pre-application meeting before our DRC or our development review committee um back on September 5th of 2019. May 20th or May 12th of 2020, a
formbbased code administrative review was filed for a single family residence on the property. May 15th of 2020, a formbbased code adjustment was filed for the building setback. And that is because the formbbased code requires buildings to be closer to the street and
the request was to set the building further back from Manatee Avenue. July 22nd of 2020, a building permit was filed for a new single family residence and all of this information is within the exhibits A through Q in the uh
submitted packet that you received. August 26 of 2020 um a building permit was issued for a new single family residence. And then on May 10th of 2021, a final survey was submitted to the city and on that survey, it identified the
structure as a single family residence. And then on May 14th, 2021, the city did issue a certificate of occupancy for a single family residence. June 2021. Uh there is the emails which follow again under exhibit M that
started between the app the property owner and the former uh planning manager Myra Schwarz um inquiring about a commercial use of the property. Then in February of 2020 or 2024 um code enforcement did receive a complaint that the that the property was being used as
an event center. Um code enforcement did begin their violation process January 7th of 2025. special magistrate did have a hearing for an open violation. They had an order for 180 days to bring the property into compliance. Uh we did have a another pre-application meeting with the
property owner on February 4th of this year um for a reception/event center. Unfortunately, we had to call it a club per our uh form based code. And then February 24th of 2025, uh code enforcement did receive another complaint about ongoing events and
parking at the property. Um, as mentioned, uh, the T40, uh, allows for clubs as a special use. Um, there is the definition below. Again, this is very similar to the definition in our land use regulations. And again,
we we felt it was suitable to bring the applicant forward under this term since we did the previous application um, earlier this year under the club definition. Um, here's just some stuff about the property. The property contains a singlestory little over 25
2600 square foot structure. Again, originally permitted as a single family residence. It has one point of ingress and egress onto Manatee Avenue East. Um the applicant states that the building occupancy load is 96. This was actually provided by the applicant. The fire
marshall did not provide this information. Um the fire marshall at our DRC meeting asked for the applicant to collect the information and he would review it. Um but based on that it said the occupancy in the warming kitchen is
1.22 assembly at 91.93 and offices at 3.15. Um according to the submitted application as we've had the discussion already the applicant is proposing to convert the kitchen to a warming kitchen. It currently has a stove and everything in it. So they would have to
convert it to a warming kitchen um which does not need to meet commercial standards. They're also proposing to upgrade the structure to ADA compliance. Um, single family homes are not required to do that. So, when it was originally built, it was not built to ADA standard. So, they will have to bring everything to ADA compliance if it's going to be
used as a commercial space. Um, the applicant has already widened the existing driveway. Um, as you saw in that earlier photo, you could tell where it was light where the original driveway was and then they have added crushed concrete or crushed asphalt around the perimeter and also
across the backyard. Um the formbbased code does not uh regulate lot coverage include that would include um hard surfaces. Our formbbased code is only for what is under roof. So there is no um maximum lot coverage concerns there.
Um the spaces that are required they will need to be striped. They are currently not striped and they need to be 9 by20 in size. The parking was determined based on the occupancy that was provided and based on the amount of parking they can get on site. So with
the warming kitchen um and assembly area, they would be required to have 31 spaces. The office an additional one. So there's quite a few there. So total off- streetet parking spaces required is 32. Um how we calculate that is it is for an assembly place is one per three. So that
brings the visitors at 42. That's where we got the number of maximum occupants at 42. Um here are some parking options that were in the formbbased code that the applicant can look at. Um to date we have not received any of these considerations brought forward to us. Um
that they can provide data that they that the parking requirements are too extenuous on them that they could do valet parking an off-site parking agreement. This would allow them to get that occupancy load up or occupants in the building instead of capping at 42
where they could possibly get it up to let's say 50 60 or 70 but they would have to provide this information to us and get it um certified by the city and they could also do a shared parking agreement. Here is the parking regulations. Um the formbbased code um
talks about offices um it's one per basically uh 500 square feet. The office space was less So that's where we got the calculation of one. The formbbased code does not really address um places of assembly. So we have to refer back to the land use regulations under schedule
4.1.4.1 and that's where we get the one per three visitors at maximum capacity of assembly. Um development review committee did meet on February 4th with the applicant to review the proposed request. Um the building department
stated some concerns. They want the change of occupancy required converting the building from a residence to assembly and again provide the life safety plan and required for Florida building code documents. The fire department um mimicked what the building department said on the change of
occupancy also bring the kitchen to up to commercial standards or remove cooking appliances which would put it at the warming kitchen and to also provide a life safety plan that includes a seating layout planning. We had some concerns about the hours of operations. So, that was something that was brought
up. Um, and we need to make sure that they have all business licenses filed with the city. Um, public works, uh, they do need to obtain a site improvement plan because they are putting they extended the parking lot. Unfortunately, that has been done without a site improvement
permit. Um, so that will need to get addressed through our public works department. Um, if there is any tree removal, they'll need to make sure that is addressed. Um there's also concerns about storm water um that it must not go onto the street and discharge must be into storm pipes and again they need to
obtain all permits and inspections prior to the certificate of occupancy or in this case it would be the change of occupancy. Again here is just the uh parking plan. It's a little difficult to see. Um it may show up better on your on your monitors but they do have some perimeter parking on the side. Um they
have one ADA space that will need to be solid concrete. you cannot use crushed concrete. So, that'll need to be addressed. Um, but you can see this darker area is where they have brought in the crushed concrete or crushed asphalt um around what was the original driveway and parking pad in the back of
this of the original um plan or single family residence at that time. The comprehensive plan um talks about future land use elements. Um you know, it really does not address commercial addresses commercial here. So again,
this is a light commercial use. Um, so it does feel like staff felt like it falls and does come into compliance under policy 1.2.1. Um, site photos. Here are some photos taken. It's been, this was prior to planning commission. Um, you can see
the structure on the left. That's a front view. Um, this photo here, you can kind of see where the additional crushed asphalt has been brought in around the original driveway that was approved with the single family residence. All of these photos were taken from the public
rightway. So there was no um stepping onto private property when these photos were taken. So these are a little difficult to see, but you can see the crushed asphalt in the rear um that has been laid for parking surfaces and along here too. And you can also see where the original parking pad at the rear of the
residence or the structure and the driveway um were at. And again, just some additional parking. Um there currently is a fence along the east property line. Um, I did not verify whose fence that is, but um, they it will have to be probably corrected. Um,
it looks like it's falling over if it is the property owners, but there is a stipulation on fencing off the even the west and south property lines. Um, and that came up at the planning commission due to some parking concerns which were addressed by Mr. Powers in his letter. Um, here are the general standards of
the land use regulations. Um, talks about uh, special uses under 3.3.1. These look familiar. You saw these earlier today in uh the other two cases. Again, the review criteria talks about ingress and egress
access points. Unlike the other case we had before, you know, Manatee Avenue in this area is one way. So, it's a little less concerning for staff. Um whereas at the other location, it was crisscrossing multiple lanes of traffic. These are the review criteria.
The responses were submitted in the uh staff report. Um the applicant also responded to the uh criteria. Um these are again submitted with the council packet in front of you. Um staff did not feel that there was really any hindrance
with any of these u or these criteria and it is a consistency with the comprehensive plan. City council is encouraged to evaluate the request based on the provider criteria as well as staff input, the applicant and the public. And it is staff's opinion. It is to be it is found
to be consistent with the intent of section 3.3.2.5 of the land use regulations and the design elements of the comprehensive plan. Uh planning commission did meet on April 16th. They did recommend approval by a five vote of 50 um with stipulations and those are as
follows. um they were modified a little bit from the original staff uh stipulations. We did have the hours of operation being um ending earlier on the weekends. Um planning commission felt that 11:00 was suitable on um Fridays
and Saturdays. So they did modify that stipulation. Um this is the ADA that needs to be brought up to standards ADA space um to Florida building code section 502 for parking spaces. Um, as this was brought up earlier by Vice
Mayor Kramer, um, the change of occupancy under letter C, this needs to be completed. We did have a 30-day stipulation before, um, staff recommended, but that was dropped, uh, because basically this will encourage the applicant to probably work quicker
if they want to occupy this as a special event center or an event center. Um, because they should not be having events there until everything is brought into compliance. Um again here's the maximum capacity under letter D. Um again it can increase
if they can provide the city with additional parking. Um it can be offsite through other mechanisms as mentioned earlier that were found in the foreignbased code. Um they could possibly get up to 97 attendants based on the occupancy rate that was provided
to the city. And that number again determined it and needs to be determined and confirmed by the building official and the fire marshall. Um obtain a site improvement plan prior to any building permits. Um provide the tree survey. Again, these are items you I mentioned
earlier that were brought up at the DRC meeting and that any food service areas must comply with the building fire and health codes. And this was a stipulation that planning commission added. They would like to see a fencer hedge be installed along the southeast and west
property lines to define to define property lines and on-site parking. As we said, we've had some parking issues bleeding over onto adjacent parcels. Um I do apologize. I admitted the letters um out of the packet, but we did have letters come in um from Dr. Heidi
Amrani. Um she is the medical director of um Florida, our HCA, Florida Healthcare High-Risk Breast Program. She is looking at opening an operation at 1720 Manatee Avenue East, which is the medical building to the east. And there
was also um an email submitted from Don and Angie Power. Um they own the vacant lot to the west of 1710 um of the subject property of 1710 Manit Avenue West. Um that is all I have. There was a large packet of information I provided
you. Hopefully it wasn't overwhelming. Um I didn't The building plans were a lot. I know I'm sure you did not want to see roof trusses, but I did not want to emit anything from the um submitts that were submitted to the city. So, do you have any questions for me?
Go ahead. Um uh when you say that they have to the stipulation about fire and health and safety codes. Um do we have any concerns about proximity to the school and whether or not they have alcohol included in the events or anything? It's fine. Okay.
What did you mention about traffic? Your concerns for traffic weren't We did not have any. And it was based on what though? You said it was a oneway at that point. Uh the location and the volume of cars ingress and eressing also. Go back to this. Probably be easier just to do
it this way. Believe maybe two-way through there. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's two. Yeah, it is two way. My my bad. I'll correct myself on that one. But but it is a little bit different because there's a median. Yeah. It's not direct
direct shooting across. It is a speedway there. I mean generally in the It is definitely a problem. It is. Um um one more. No, I'm good. Uh I recognize Mrs.
Coachman. Thank you. Thank you. Um, I don't have my glasses on, but I'm referencing Mr. Powers email. The stipulation to have fencing
um, installed, would that satisfy his concerns? I am unsure if it will or not. Mr. Power was notified of both meetings and has not attended and that is the only communication we have had with Mr. Power. Okay. Yeah, we're hoping it will help mitigate
any issues and that was the planning commission's feelings and that's why they requested that stipulation be added. Go ahead, ma'am. Mrs. Barnaby, Mr. Dong, we were looking at the site plan
or or the picture of of the property and one of the things that you said kind of stuck out to me. When they brought in all of the crushed concrete, asphalt, whatever it is, they
had no plan approved by the city to do that. Are do we know anything about how that may have changed the flow of storm water on that property? Um, that is a question for public works and I do not have that
answer. and um the public works. I don't Kim I don't know I'm happy she's here. Um I didn't know if if she would be here or not, but yeah. And can I miss you may not have this information, but my cons
my concern I'll if you know anything about it or if you can opine the property itself as it changes from a single family use to a commercial use has additional
um requirements from public works. They have to provide drainage directly into a drainage system. We have to re-evaluate their solid waste. Um we re-evaluate their uh water connections and their sewer connections to make sure that they are adequate for what they're being used
for now as opposed to a single family home. And those are the primary things, but again with the imperousness that they've added, they're going to have to have a swift mud permit and they'll need an engineer to do their site improvement plans. So those are the primary changes
that we find from public works and changing from single family to uh some sort of commercial or multifamily. Both of those fall into that criteria. Thank you. Did that answer the question adequately? Yes.
Um I I am concerned about a what appears to me to be a pattern of behavior of ignoring requirements. So thank you. You're welcome. Um, Mrs. Clayback, before you go, can you just state on the
record your name and your position with the city and that you were sworn? My name is Kim Clayback. I'm the engineering manager in public works and utilities. And you and you were sworn and I was sworn and I bet she's been sworn out,
too. That too. My apologies, Mr. Rudil, for not clarifying that. Thank you, Miss Clayback. Any other questions for me? Comtock. I know. Any further questions for staff? I have I It's almost like I don't know what
question I want to ask first. Um I'm trying to read this other letter. Is this one referring to noise or something? I'm sorry. I didn't bring my class. You want to summarize the other letter. Do you want to borrow my
glasses? The letter from the doctor did address concerns with potential noise. Oh, okay. Potential. Yeah. But had not Okay. Okay. All right. So, potential but not experienced yet. And he's actually
having events. They haven't moved. They They haven't been there yet. Yeah. They're They're not located in a facility yet. Even when I was out doing the site visit, it's still to occupy it. Yeah. But have not done. So, she's not even sure. She's not sure yet. Okay.
And again, she was notified of the meeting um did not show planning commission or today. I don't know. I I guess I guess I'm just trying to grasp a little bit for the kind of events that are there. I mean, are we talking about this is a place
where you can held a baby shower or or a Bible study or, you know, so it's just you're only you're limited if if it was limited to 42 people. I just don't know that I see
a noise. Um I don't know. I'm worried about I'm just limiting it to 42 people is going to be the purview of the police department who gets called there when it's more than 42 people. That's going to be the issue. Well, I mean that's any place. I mean, you're saying that's where the burden's going to because then
they're going to take the initial report, have to deal with it at the moment and then code enforcement likely these event times are not going to be during the time code enforcement will be working and code enforcement will have to address after the fact. And then I would think that the event person if
they're if they are holding an event and they're being paid for it, the last thing they're going to want is to have that going. I mean, they would limit it. That's what you would hope. Well, I mean, you know, I mean, even in your private home, I mean, I've had events at
my own home and I I don't know. It's just I'm I guess I'm feeling a little bit like we're trying to be a little excessive on on this. Um and that's just my feeling. I thank you. I'm
sorry. May I please? Um I think what's happening also and I stated it unfortunately because there's a history of violation that's tainted the you know you coming before us that that's all but
I I'm I'm more so thinking that that was more air instead of being defiant if that makes sense. However, we are here with a case with the magistrate. But I I I kind of think if
we could take that out of the piece and just look at it as it's coming to us and not think about that, it might help a little bit to to not have such a cloudy, you know, Mrs. Moore than Mrs.
Cooker. Um I um I think you all know at this point that my uh approach to reszoning and special use permit uh issues is very thoughtful. Um and so I just want to point out that this is just my thought so you know take it for what
it's worth. Um that while I appreciate the hesitancy because of previous bad behavior I it it's my opinion that we have mechanisms for that bad behavior and we are not that mechanism. We there is code enforcement, there is a special magistrate. I will defer to that process
to deal with violations and whatnot. Um on the very specific question before us, it seems to me that they have a long way to go to be able to do what they want to do. Um it starts with this because I wouldn't expect someone to hire, you know, to spend money on engineers and a
site plan and go through that process without knowing that they could actually do the commercial use that they're trying to do. Um al so I I want to just reiterate that there's a process. I believe that you know the applicant is aware. I'm sure that their attorneys
will um guide them and advise them in that regard. But at the end of the day based on just the question before before us as to whether or not uh we should grant a special use application um or permit I'm sorry.
a commercial use of this property is, in my opinion, a better use of this property. Um, it will turn a dollar over in a community that we're trying to, at least I'm trying to encourage more economic development. It is fronts that Yes. Well, I just don't want to speak
for anyone. That's difference. That's not singling myself outive over here. Yeah. No, I love the east side, of course, and the west side. Um but that is uh something that has been you know a shared goal I
will say councilwoman coachman. Yes. Um and uh and and so I think that for me that's going to be the thing that kind of governs my my analysis and my decision- making.
Thank you Mrs. Cook. Yeah. Um it's interesting that this is coming up today because um I'm actually going to be addressing some of this even more in my council comments at the end. But um it's kind of a philosophical issue that you know excessive permitting um it it can
create real world problems. It delays projects and it increases the costs and it in discourages mo um you know innovation and entrepreneurship. And I feel like that's kind of what's starting to happen here happen here. And then that just
ends up breeding resentment from your um for your government institution, from the community. And I I really, you know, I think like as Councilwoman Moore said, there's a a lot of stipulations here that they're going to have to meet. And
um so I, you know, I I just would like to see us move forward on this. Well, we haven't we haven't had the public hearing yet. So, public hearing. Well, I mean, I'm just point of order. We need to have a public hearing, too.
Okay. I'm just making my comments. Yeah. Okay. Staff presentation's done at this point. Okay. We're going to open the public hearing. Public hearing is now open. Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Hearing
none. Public hearing is closed. Mr. Vice Mayor, we do typically allow for applicant rebuttal as well. That's part of our process. We we haven't been doing it over the last few items just because there hasn't really been anything brought up to rebutt, but I would recommend that the applicant be
given that first please come forward. I'll just say a few words on you have um I personally having reviewed this case and having um known the Jacksons for some time I do believe that they made efforts to try to clarify what they
were allowed to do, what they weren't allowed to do. I don't think there was any malicious intention in any of that. I think the fact that, you know, u attorney Petrif um is willing to stipulate to these and my client my clients are willing to stipulate to these uh these requirements as as you
mentioned um Councilwoman Moore that this is the beginning of the process. This is not the end. There's a lot of hoops they're going to have to jump through and we're asking you to give them a chance to jump through those hoops. Thank you. Any questions? Thank you. No questions.
Okay. Cheryl will entertain a motion. Vice Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Motion to approve resolution 2538 with the stipulations recommended by staff and I hope we kept up with all the different things we've added. Well, that was going to be one of
the questions that I had. Um I think so. Two questions. one, do we want to add a stipulation specifically to limit the residential use, which I've I've prepared one if if the council wants to add that. And the second question
is, do we want to just limit it to 42 guests without the potential to increase that number with off-site parking? I I say yes unless they build more space
or Yeah, I say yes to limit it. Now the first one. Would you like to read any of that into the record? Yes, I will. I just wanted to make sure that that was something. Okay. So what I would suggest for stipulation D that stipulation D be
amended to just end after where it says 42 guests so that it would just read the club/event center use shall be limited to a maximum 42 guests and eliminating the rest of that uh
stipulation. And then the new stipulation would be stipulation I. Uh and it would read once a change of occupancy has been issued for the event space, the property shall no longer be used for residential
occupancy. Is that your motion? So move. And I would like to bring the applicant since we just read those into the record to make sure they're in agreement with those stipulations. Thank you, Mr. Jackson. You amended below
stipulations as amended. Yes, I am. Okay. Thank you, sir. I'll second. Okay. It's a motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none. We'll start the vote and award three.
Yes. Vote award four. Yes. W five. Yes. Ward one. Yes. W two. No. Passes. 41. Thank you, gentlemen. All right. Next on the agenda,
item 7D is the public hearing for resolution 25-55. And this is just setting a public hearing during a regular city council meeting for ordinance 4059. All right. So, we'll open the public
hearing. Yes, sir. Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Hearing none. I'm not going to go with third hearing. None. We'll move on. Hearing's closed. Is there a date we have that set
for? Yes. May 28th. I'm sorry. Okay. We will need a motion for that one. Setting it for May 20th. Yes. To approve resolution 25-55.
I'll make the motion. Second. Motion. Second. Any discussion hearing? None. Start the vote in ward four. Yes. Ward
five. Yes. Ward one. Yes. W two. Yes. And yes. And w three. All right. Next item 7E is the first reading and uh first public hearing for ordinance 4059, an ordinance of the city of
Bradenton, Florida, amending the city of Bradenton's land use regulations. Chapter 3, District Regulations, section 3.2, Standard Land Use Atlas District Regulations, Schedule 3.2.1.2,
two permitted and special uses mixed use and non-residential land Atlas district, sorry, land use Atlas districts to add docks and peers as a permitted or special use in the urban
village zoning district, providing for cotification, providing for repeal of ordinance and zone conflict, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. And the second reading and second public hearing for this item is schedule are scheduled for May 28th.
Okay. All right. So, we'll need to open the public hearing. That is a Yes, it is a public hearing item. One thing I just want to explain for the council on this one, the reason that the language says or um in
terms of whether it be a special use or permitted use is that staff had originally proposed it as being a permitted use in that zoning district. planning commission recommended that that be a special use and so we've
advertised it as as an option so that the city council can make that decision and then we'll we'll modify the uh the ordinance title and language when we do that. Okay. All right. Open the public hearing. Anyone Anyone wishing to speak?
Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Item 7F is the first reading for ordinance 4060, an ordinance of the city of
Bradenton, Florida, amending chapter 62, article 4 of the code of ordinances to provide for overnight mooring of authorized vessels at the public day dock located at Riverw Walk Park. providing for codification, providing for severability, providing for repeal
of ordinances and conflict, and providing for an effective date. And the second reading and public hearing are scheduled for May 28th, and we don't need any action for this one today. Okay. All
right. Okay. Next then on the agenda is new business by department heads, city attorney and councel. Item A, city administration emergency procurement report. Welcome back, Mr. Perry. But
Mr. Williams will take it from here. Thank you, Vice Mayor and Council. So, um, these are the purchases, emergency purchases that were made to handle the better technology here.
We're going to continue to do this. I have to learn Braille. How was that? Uh, a little bit more. That's good. Everybody able to read those? Yeah. If we could go the other side.
Yep. That's great. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, we had three emergency purchases since the last uh council meeting. um one for 717,000, another one for 400 that was for the a repair of a storm uh pipe and
I'll show you some detailed pictures with those um outlet village green. Um and then we had another one for 429,000 that is our disc filters uh that will be installed at the wastewater treatment plant or water reclamation plant. And
then the last is 83,000 for uh copper sulfate which um actually combats the algae in um our surface water drinking area um to help with smell and and and with odor and taste and so forth. So um
so as far as the the repair the storm pipe goes, obviously $717,000 is a lot for an emergency purchase, but I wanted to Mr. Perry and I wanted to kind of show what they were dealing with. So, this this emergency
actually took um our contractor roughly 3 to four months to get it repaired. Um essentially what they were doing was they were chasing bad storm pipe after bad storm pipe. Um unfortunately u there's some surface support uh that was
that was damaged as well. Um all this was damaged during Milton. Um, so we were able to get a contractor out there fairly quickly. Unfortunately, it just took some time. So, you're talking with you're talking about a 54 in storm pipe. It's a sizable pipe. Um, what you're
looking at now is some of the piping that they actually removed. Um, at the top you can see some of the the damaged aluminum pipe um that was in the ground. And um just to kind of give you an idea of the size that they're talking
about, this is the shoring and you know six foot, you know, men inside that shoring. So that just kind of gives you an idea of how deep uh that storm pipe went and how wide it is. Um so it wasn't uh you know a smaller job that just took
a long time. This was a very large pipe. They had to rebuild some of the um the shoring for it and then also install the pipe and again um even the risers that uh that you'll see were were damaged as well. So just chasing continue to chase
pipe after pipe and in total I believe it was um roughly about 300 linear feet um they ended up having to replace. Um so once they found a good connection then then they were able to actually start the repair. Um
again talking about size. So this is one of the risers. Again, you're looking at, you know, gentlemen that are six foot plus, and you can see the size of of riser material that they're that they're using uh to make the uh make the repairs. And then lastly, just as kind of a cleanup, um they also had to do
some fence reinstallation um to make sure it was all tidied up and look nice like it never happened. Any questions? Yes, Mrs. Barnaby. Um I may have missed this. Did you tell us exactly where this was done? Did you
give us the that on 20th? Uh, it was on 18th and uh 67th Street West. 18th Avenue. Yeah. And and I just had a conversation with Miss Clayback and thank you for saying um I had asked her to stay in case there were any technical
questions. Um but she basically if we didn't have this repair done, we may have lost 18th Avenue. So, it it was a nec a necessary emergency and uh like I said, luckily we were able to get one of our trusted contractors out there to get
the repairs done. Um we are seeing more and more the effects of the amount of rainfall that we had between Debbie, Helen, and Milton and how it's impacting our
infrastructure. Um, I'm I'm noticing like on my residential street, we're starting to see the dips and the what have you because of so much rain coming into that area in into our city and
washing away soil that might have been holding pipes up or holding up parts of the infrastructure. I guess I'm just saying this because um I think we're going to see more and more of it as it dries out. I think
that's probably one of the problems that we had over on Tamiami Trail last week. Um, I just appreciate everybody working so hard to try to get these things taken care of and and hope the the residents
understand sometimes we have to do a temporary fix to be able to open a roadway, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing that we're doing. Exactly. Can you can you speak to that a little bit? Um, and maybe Miss Claybet can speak to a little bit better than I can, but yeah, there is a temporary fix
because obviously we're we're trying to balance um, you know, a little bit of traffic control and and not try to impede people's lives to be able to get from home to work or to wherever they're needed to go. So, um, if if things if projects take a little longer than necessary or there's equipment or
supplies that we need to procure before we can actually make the a permanent repair, then yeah, we're going to try to get at least a temporary um solution put in place until we can put the permanent solution put in place without with minimal impact to our residents. Miss
Claybach may have more information on that. Absolutely. And please allow me to apologize. I haven't worked with Kim Commtock since about 1980 whatever. And when you came up the last time, I called you Miss Comtock and I apologize. No worries. I've been called far
worse. Um, good morning again. We have um an extensive inspection schedule throughout the city. This particular project, so all of you know, is one of a multitude of projects we had submitted through our FEMA, through Hagerty, who's
our um our consultant for our FEMA and storm reimbursements. And it's a big one. Uh this particular pipe was installed in the 1970s. It's corrugated metal pipe and it was set to be lined,
but the storm did so much damage that it was we weren't able to line it. we had to replace it at this time. But from a a maintenance perspective, we are inspecting all of the pipes in the city. We are a good percentage through both
the sanitary and the storm system. And when you hear our requests for um capital projects as we move into the budget season, you'll see storm water pipe lining on there. And when you're lining sanitary pipe at 8 in, 10 in, 12
in, you're paying a much smaller rate per linear foot than you are with a 54 in or even a 24 in pipe. But we do have assessments. We take those and prioritize what the worst pipes are. Um, and and that's part of the process that
we go through behind the scenes. And that's what we do for everything is we try to prioritize paving and sidewalk replacement and all of those things so that and we explain that to people so they understand when they call and say why hasn't this been done is we do
explain to them our prioritization process. Um so we we are working diligently and every day to go out and inspect our systems that nobody gets to see unless their their crystal ball is working. So, does that help you all? Any
questions? Nothing yet, but I don't want to go anywhere. This is more That that did in fact answer my question. It was really more of a comment about as we face it and fix it that we are systematically maintaining what we have faced and fixed
um so that we don't continually find ourselves trying to catch up and and you know have super huge capital improvement projects instead of just routine maintenance of our systems. As an example, last year we came in excess of
10 miles in our storm system as well as another, I believe, 12 miles in our sanitary system, which requires all the cleaning and inspection that goes through it. So, we are systematically moving through the systems to get them
to the point of being prioritized and um and repaired so that we don't run into these failures or minimize the risk of the failure. And I'm sorry, just real quick, let me kind of um broaden that answer a little bit. Remember, we're also we also
started our asset management system and once we get the systems up and running and and replaced and repaired that will actually the maintenance of that is will be tracked. Um and so we're it's more of a proactive approach as we manage the
assets of the city um versus trying to always be reactive or always being in a reactive mode. So the idea is we make the repairs, we do the assessments, we make the repairs, they're in our asset management system and we proactively maintain, you know, those that system
throughout. So whether it's, you know, a vehicle, whether it's a building, whether it's, you know, underground storm water, wastewater, water lines, it's they're all assets to the city. And so, not only are we doing today's work, but we're also bringing in a system,
policies, and procedures to ensure exactly what you just said. We're not trying to repeat history. We're trying to correct some history. So, M um kind of two questions. Uh there was
also, I think at the same time, a pretty large one that was being addressed. It's right where it goes underneath 75th Street, the big storm sewer right there on 20th Avenue. Do you know where I'm talking about? The cut through between Point West and Village
Green. And and at the end down there, it seemed like there was a pretty big project going on. Now, that could have been county since it's going under 75th Street. I don't know. But was that also part of this 75th Street? The project under 75th
Street was the county. That's county. That we had a couple other disturbances in Village Green specifically, some sanitary related. Um, one had bad compaction in the road that happened the day before the storm. Okay. Um, but we
did um we we've gotten through all of those except the fire hydrant replacements. Okay. Um, and there's some problems with that technically, uh, that we're going to be delayed in replacing the hydrants. Well, it felt kind of like whack-a-ole over there right before the
storms and then from started kind of with Debbie and and so I'm hoping that that big project, do you think we've kind of gotten it addressed now? I mean, everybody kept talking about sink holes and I'm trying to say no. Wash outs. Wash outs. We don't have sinkholes. We have pipe failures. Thank you for
knowing that. I appreciate that we don't have the geological environment for sink holes here, but it did take care of a a huge piece of the problem. As we go on 68th and 63rd, there's still some lining to be done. There is the lining company
has a $200,000 work assignment. They're starting the first week of June to do storm water pipe lining there. Um, and we need to look at some water line replacement out there. is probably 10 years out, so it's not going to impact anything immediately, but that that is
in the plan. Thank you. You're welcome. And just to clarify, I know you mentioned it expanded expanded. The initial cost estimate for this was around $250,000, I think. And it just because it you kept having to expand it,
it got to the number ended up at. That is correct. When they went to they had to replace the structure, we knew there was restoration that was going to be involved and there was some pipe replacement and as they continued to move down the pipe there was you have to
connect to solid pipe or when you put the clamping on it or the the gasket to join it, it just collapses the next piece of pipe. So we had to get to solid pipe to make the connection and that pipe goes all the way back to almost Freedom Village.
Okay. Just want to be sure that was out there. Thank you. When people say we just spend money like crazy, that's there's reasons. So, okay. All right. Anything else? All right. Thank you all. Oh, Mr. Williams, I have one more question for you. Yes, ma'am. Did you
have a nice birthday yesterday? I thought I could get away with that. I did have a nice birthday. Thank you. Yeah. And I will be visiting some 55 and older communities because now I can I I was just wondering if you got your
AA or P card yet. All right. Uh any unfinished business? No, sir. Didn't think so. All right. Council reports. We'll start. And uh where do we stop off? H we'll go ward one. Ward one. W start with you.
Okay. Okay. First, I I want to preface my my comments with um that this is not directed at our planning staff whatsoever. This is really really more directed at us up here as the policy makers.
Um government regulation and permitting are justified only when they protect the public's health, safety, and their rights. So, uh, when permits are required for actions that have no bearing on public safety, such as aesthetics, preferences, and
bureaucratic control or revenue generation, to me, it's it's an overreach and it infringes on our personal freedoms and stifles our innovation and undermines our property rights, which is kind of what I was addressing a little bit earlier. So when
we, you know, impose permits for harmless activities um for making minor alterations to private property, it it it ceases to be a protector of the people and um and
these restrictions violate the found founding principles that individuals have a right to manage their own affairs unless the actions harm others. So, um, I kind of addressed earlier how I felt like it would, uh, create delays
and increase costs and discourage entrepreneurship and and innovation. Um, and that it'll cause resentment towards us. Um, we have to be held to a standard of necessity and justification. And so
if if a permitting requirement cannot be directly linked to preventing clear and demonstrable harm to others such as threats to health, safety, and the environment, it we should rethink it. And free citizens should not need
permission to exercise their rights. Um I I'd like with that in mind, I'd like to revisit our chicken ordinance. Um, I personally have tried to go through the permitting process and um have found it overburdensome and I and and like I
said, this is not directed at staff whatsoever. Um, but I just feel like um first off, I don't feel like we should be burdening our staff with inspections and all that
and getting into people's personal business. Um the requirement I understood the requirement for the um the block the stockade fencing but the way the ordinance is written it's not
just to pro to to to um be a buffer with the neighbor it has to be around the whole thing. Well I don't have a neighbor in the back. So to me that's overburdensome and I would have to get a permit for a fence that I
don't really want. And so that's kind of part of what brought me into to thinking about this. Um I think that I have per I I think that I have personally addressed everything else in there and I'm not
looking for special treatment. I'm I'm trying to speak here for the other people that want to do it and do it right. Most people probably would just say, "Forget getting a permit and I'll deal with it later." But I I don't feel like I can do that. Um, and you have um
I I've already spoken to my neighbor and said, "If there's an odor, that noise bothers you. If there's anything that bothers you, let me know and I'll get rid of it." Um, and now here I am looking at an overburdensome process to get a permit. I think that issuing a
permit I understood what the purpose of that was so that you would have jurisdiction if if I if I wasn't a good bird owner so to speak. So let me get a permit. Let me sign off that I agree to to to the follow the restrictions that are
in there and then if there's a problem later you have jurisdiction to come in and say you can't have your birds anymore or whatever. Um, but I would really like to see us um allow I don't know some kind of a
revisiting of it. Um, I I can can understand the permit so that there's jurisdiction. Um, but beyond that I think it's overburdensome. Um so and then also um with my report um
it's graduation time and as we're reaching as as all the graduates are reaching for the stars. I hope that um in the places that they'll go that they'll please know we are clearing you. We are cheering you on
and hope that you will bring your yourself back to our friendly city and share all the wonderful things that you've learned back with us. Thank you, Mrs. Barbie. Thank you.
Um, I would just like to say that um, tomorrow morning at uh, 9:00 we will be having the law enforcement memorial at uh, the on the grounds of the historic courthouse between the old courthouse and the new
judicial center. Um, and if you are downtown and you would like to stop by, I think that would be a a worthwhile use of your time. As well as on Saturday, May the 17th, the city of Bradenton will be
celebrating its 122nth birthday, and there will be an open house at the historical uh library, which is operated by the clerk of the court. when I was growing up, that was the Carnegi Library, and that was the library that I went to. So,
I I can't wait to go in and and reminisce a little bit. But, uh, that will happen on Saturday at the public market. Um, that's May 17th from 9 until 2. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, ma'am.
Uh for W three, um it's always nice to reward our employees and obviously we've had a lot of that recently with police week is actually this week. Um nurses week I think was last week or the week before. But um it's always nice when our
employees can show up here and we can recognize them and then it's on YouTube for them to see later on and share with their families. So it's I'm not surprised that it was a packed house in here. It's always a packed house anytime you have a third of your employees
coming to say hello. Um, also congratulations to graduates. Um, it's going to be a lot more kids on their own here coming up, but uh, especially the ones at St. Stevens. I've got to know several over the last three years and
they are some pretty decent kids. Um, and I want to thank everybody who came out to support the Kowanas Family Festival this Saturday, past Saturday at Leon Park. Um, there were a lot of lot of community organizations involved from
Dodto crew to, um, early learning coalition. Uh, I was at the bike giveaway spot, uh, which had bikes donated by rider bikes. We gave away 12 bikes from the little small ones, 12-in wheels, which looked like
they were 6-in wheels to uh cruisers for adults. So, it was uh it was nice. A lot of people came to the game, didn't have any idea about the family festival, and a lot of people came to the family festival. Had no idea there was a game that day. So, it was it was a good good day to be there. Uh rain got a little
messy, but we survived. All right, ward four. Thank you. Um, I'll speak to Councilwoman Coker's comments regarding the chicken ordinance. I, um, I have no problem revisiting the ordinance. I think that if you had a personal experience that it didn't work the way
that it did when it was on paper, um, that's a valid criticism of something that we've done. And if we've made a mistake, we should absolutely not feel discouraged in any way to revisit something that we think was not the way to go. Um, I will say about property
rights. The reason why I'm so particular about uh and this is just conversation for you guys. Um, the we the reason why I'm so particular about reszones and special use permits is um I think you guys have heard me say this. I liken property law to a bundle of sticks. When I bought when I buy a piece of property,
I have certain rights that are associated with it. If you have to come before me to ask for a change in those rights, that means you didn't have it. And there's must, you know, theoretically there is a reason why you didn't have it. Um, and so I tend to view those um, matters that come before
us with an eye towards what is the best use of the parcel? Does it make sense? That kind of thing. Um, I completely agree with you. Once I've given the right, it would be very difficult for me to take it away. So, I want to just be judicious about what I throw out there,
thoughtful in that. Is it the best use? Will it, you know, is it the best use for really the city as a whole? Um, so that's just my philosophy. when we have those things before us. Uh I I tend to so that's that and you know sure that I
don't know how anyone else feels about it but I'm okay with that. Um I tend to I find that the most that I when I'm reviewing the agenda that uh I would like to see more consistency in the cover memo. I I feel like the questions that I ask are almost always related to
something that has to do with legal and also funding. And I I think it would be helpful to me in our one-on- ons if we consistently said whether legal had reviewed something. What maybe the answer is no, but I would like to know
that. And then the second thing is um sometimes I feel like some people are really super specific and they will like say this was funded out of fund GL35 whatever. Um and then others are just like it's in the budget. And so I feel
like I would like to know a little bit more about that. And I think that our one-on- ons would be more productive if we had that level of consistency. So that's just a suggestion. Um, and then the final thing that I had that I was going to ask you guys about was I'm
finding that, you know, we're seven months out or whatever from the storms. In my immediate area, I still have quite a bit of downed, not in use wires and the metal pole thing that the wires, you know, originally were in the ground
with. And I can't figure out who I should talk to about that. Um, is that something that we deal with? I'm I'm assuming that these wires are from providers, you know, like Frontier, Spectrum, um, FPL. Okay. So, do we have a process for telling them that they
maybe need to hit an area to pick up their wires that are not in use and and kind of clean that up a little bit? Well, I'll do my best to speak about I think the process that we have now is you let either myself or public works
know. Um, and then we do have contacts for those, you know, individual providers. Um, you know, it's hard to identify who's is whose, right? Um, so it is a little bit of a a kind of a guessing game and then or a process of elimination if you will. Um, but the
best process that we can have is just let us know identify the areas and then we can communicate that to the providers. Okay, great. I do what I'm cons what I'm concerned about is a little bit of the that's not mine, that's theirs and I and it's been it's been some time now that Yeah. And in all
honesty, it's not the easiest thing to manage, but we do you know we do a pretty good job of managing it and get it completed. may not be the quickest, but it does get completed. Awesome. I will uh I'll follow up with you then and later. Okay, perfect. Some spots that I took a picture for you. All right, thank
you. That help I will say because I have taken that and he's been great about that, very responsive, but I think that the weak link is the providers. I had not mentioned that before to Mr.
Williams because I didn't know, you know, am I supposed to be calling Frontier myself? You know what I mean? So, I just um now I know another reason why Lance will get texts from me. Lance is a superhero. I got about all that. Well, and remember, he's
getting older, so let's calm down. All right. Go ahead, ma'am. All right. W five. Ward five. Okay. Um, just a comment to your comments about the chickens and and the
burdensome of the regulations. I remember making a statement that what we were doing in and the purpose was to make sure we had some regulations so that the chickens weren't all on top of someone's
roof or walking down the street. So, there was a need for that. But I remember saying, "Wow, this is going to make it where some people probably the people who really really need these for food, uh, they won't be able to afford
it." And you said, "Oh, well, it's, you know, well, people can afford pools and some can't afford pools." You remember saying that? So now you know that uh firsthand that yes, it can be pretty expensive. Um, and hopefully we can
revisit that and ease some of the things that we didn't really see as we were, you know, making the policy because sometimes you don't you don't know if something's going to work until you actually execute and then you find
things you have to fine-tune. Um, and to to kind of uh piggyback on your comments, Councilwoman Gonzalez Moore, um, I have also asked um about having a
little bit more specific information in terms of the financial impact because it is easy to just say, oh, it's an operation budget and that's great, but you know, just to give some ideas and I um, Mr. Perry and I were talking about that and we were saying that maybe this
upcoming budget we could talk about that, you know, from this day forward. I mean, that day forward, whatever. Great discussions today. I love it when we can work on something and maybe not necessarily agree, but we
we talk through it, we work through it, and we're still friends after it's over. I just I just enjoy that. I really do. Um, and I just want to say if I appeared excessive on that particular item, it's
because it's the ward that I represent. But don't get it twisted. I love my entire city and my entire city is in my mind every time I make a decision. When it's specific though to the the the area that I'm the go-to, um I do get a
little, you know, I want to make sure it's right. Um I want to make sure both sides it it's as close to a win-win as possible. So if I seemed a little excessive, um yeah, that's my reason. Um end of school
is coming. Oh my goodness. I think it's 10 days left. Um, yeah, cuz I think yesterday it was 11 and I'm here now. Um, so not long and in and everybody prek
to 12th grade. Well, 11th 12th grade, they out of here anyway. Uh, we'll be out and about. So, definitely be careful. I'm not looking forward to it really. I'm looking forward to being off, but I'm not necessarily looking forward to seeing all of the little
mischief these teenagers can get into. Um, graduation. Some of my friends, their kids are graduating now, and I I see the nervousness in them. I remember, it was a long time ago, but I remember um that that time of of my life. And all
the best to the graduates. You're now embarking on the next chapter. and all the best to you all. Um, we've had some great holidays and we have some more upcoming and celebrations
and recognitions and and just being aware that this great nation has a lot going on and we're just we're in for the ride. War Five is alive. Thank you very much. Department head
reports, please come to the podium, sir, to be recognized. Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Councel, just want to express my appreciation to councelor Gonzalez Moore. This Friday, I believe we're having the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Authority lunchon and
it's the uh meetings held actually at a summit that I think starts tomorrow over at the Palmetto Marriott. and uh you're all invited and have been given tables basically of tables for staff but it's basically an award that we were nominated by councelor Gonzalez Moore
for um um real time basically emergency management on demand and the novelty of that. I gave the presentation on it if you remember um several months ago and um talked about some of the efficiency and some of the delivery of services and some of the the benefits of it and uh we
were contacted we received a great deal of support from some of the ITM teams that were here that utilized the city of Bradon's uh POC to serve both the city as well as I believe it was Homes Beach and um and uh Bradon Beach. Yeah, that
would So we had North Florida uh IMT team which is an FDM team that comes in to support the local team. So they housed out of our facility and they wrote very very complimentary letters on behalf of what we were able to do, our
management style down there, our facility, our support from our public officials. So I'd like to thank you all for that and uh hope to see you at the the meeting on Friday. I also appreciate the comments he made regarding some of the improvements we can make to um some of of of the memos and information
that's provided for the some of the items that go on a consent agenda as it relates to fiscal impact and other information. It's um it's interesting. I think that uh the conversations I had with councilwoman Coachman are pretty good to the extent of it's probably something we should look at improving
when we go into budget cycle because it it it takes into account a lot of different minutia of detail. I think what I need to know is like how how deep a dive do you want to do? Do you all understand what the 430 fund is? Do you
understand that there's two funds that deal with water and soar? that there's a stake and all these things. And really the budget process itself appropriates those funds. And if we have things that come up that are are are additional, we
do budget adjustment requests. They come before you pretty frequently and the like. But it uh it gets pretty detailed from both a budgeting and an accounting perspective. But that's not to say that we can't provide you some um uniformity in the reporting with data points and
information for some of that stuff. And hopefully we'll be able to address that in the upcoming budget cycle. So that's about it. Appreciate it. I appreciate you giving me uh the benefit of being able to take care of a personal item there today. Thank you.
And I um there are some things on uh that are recurring kind of things and you know that it's just those others those kind of out of the norm and just having an idea ballpark you know of the impact. So you don't have to be super
super detailed to the penny but we'll talk about it. We have time. Chief Kande, anything? So, council approved a ladder truck for our department, fire station 3, a couple years ago. We're very appreciative of
that. Um, the buildout on that truck is almost complete. um our apparatus spec committee and chief gear will be visiting Wisconsin next week um at the Pierce manufacturing plant to do the final inspection and it should be delivered to Bradington a week or two
later and we'll bring it here for you all to see at an upcoming council meeting. That's it. Great. Oh, I'm I'm sorry. By any chance, can you give us a ballpark? I I know we approved it, but it always amazes me how
much these things cost. I believe it was 1.1 million. Yeah. And that's that is one of a deal now. Well, and and when I think it was actually 1.35 in today's world when we repriced
it, it was 1.55 and it still takes you three years to get it. It's an aerial platform basically and we have two existing aerial platforms but one of them is just it's out of service I think right now. Um Chief can pound on that more but um
with with some of the higher structures we have it was certainly necessary and again it's a three-year backlog on that equipment and um fire station 2 is coming along. Chief might want to give an update on that too. Quite well. Yeah it's uh moving along. It's been a
pleasure to work with Willis Smith. Um, the project, if you haven't gone a tour yet, um, I recommend it's a beautiful station, but uh, it's on schedule as far as timeline and under budget. So, that's good to hear
that. And and I will say that I'm sorry, council, but that that's also managed by uh John Todd as our project manager and he's worked very well with Willis Smith and and that's that's the result of of that kind of collaboration. And so we're
hoping to have that throughout a lot of our projects moving forward. I I just wanted to ask about the ladder truck. How how many stories does that allow you to go? It is a 100 foot ladder truck, but does it mean that's probably about six to seven stories depending on your
angle. Okay. Thanks, Chief Weez. Yeah. Uh, obviously, uh, Chief Beavenon is, uh, attending one of her last Florida Chiefs Police Association board meeting, so she couldn't be here today, but uh, she did want me to reader a couple things. Uh, obviously,
Councilwoman Barnaby kind of talked on the law enforcement memorial tomorrow morning uh, over at the courthouse. uh will be there as well as uh mentioning that we sent a contingency of uh Burlington police officers up to the uh law enforcement United road uh to hope
tour. Uh they rode 250 miles raises money for the families of those officers who have uh died in the line of duty. So uh that's something that we're also very proud of and uh obviously along with your station, we're moving forward on
our police station as well. And uh again, people like Mr. Todd's a pleasure to work with as we go through that process. So, thank you. Thank you, sir. Chief, when when our officers return, could you please ask them to come to one of our
council meetings so we can thank them for what they do? Because I mean, they're up, many of them are up at 4 in the morning, riding bicycles, and trying to find hills, right, because it's not held where it's flat topography.
So, definitely, I'm sure they'd like that. And just a few follow-ups on the Bradington Law Enforcement Center Police Headquarters. Uh right now they're working as you can see out there in the garage. We have a groundbreaking that's scheduled for I believe it's May 20 20th
and hopefully you can all make it to that groundbreaking. Uh we're also in the process of getting the water lines relocated. There was a small glitch in again um unlocated prior utility from
the gas plant and its its position uh close to the water tower itself and engineering and technical decisions about how to address that which has been addressed. It's fairly minor on the cost associated with it but um that that
project is is you know being managed by Mr. Totty at this point um and through our Seymar if you remember who's MDC construction um that's in the construction phase of the project itself um along with AECOM who is the
contractor I'm sorry the AR the architect of it and also construction manager through the process called construction administration uh it's a very expensive project the mic.
Okay, Mrs. Singer, um we'll put the chicken ordinance on for discussion at your next regular meeting um towards the end of it. I think there has been some confusion about the interpretation of the code. So, we'll try to give you an
illustration of what our expectations were, what we'd be seeing out there in the field. Um, and I don't know that that necessarily is in agreement with what people were expecting for those that were trying to get um the the permit. So, do we have room for it on a
workshop possibly or is that already I know we can we have one coming up, right? Correct. Next week. Is that agenda already pretty robust? No. Well, I I I if I could have like an additional week to get that ready for your regular
meeting, I think that might be better because then I can put some more items on there for illustration purposes if that's okay. Sure. I don't know why anybody feels differently about that. So, okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else for the good of the
order? Mr. Williams, I'm good. Thank you. All right. Mr. Rutil, a lot of conversation with you today. Was good. Good. All right, we're adjourned.