everyone and welcome to the Bradenton City Council meeting on Wednesday, December 10th, 2025 at 8:30 a.m. City Hall Council Chambers. And as we always do, we'll start out with our invocation and our pledge. This time, if everyone will please stand, we'll ask
Councilwoman Barnaby to do our invocation. Please join me. Great creator, in a world filled with noise and division, we ask for your peace.
May your spirit calm every heart and bring unity among us. Let our holiday celebrations be marked by understanding, compassion, and joy. Teach us to listen more than we speak.
to love without condition, putting service above self. And together, let the people say, >> "Amen." >> Amen. Thank you. I would ask Mr. Perry to lead us in the pledge, please.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat]
>> Thank you. And we'll call this meeting to order. Um, and I will say right out of the box, the reason I asked Mr. prepared to lead us this the pledge because he's the proud grandpa now of a baby boy. Kellen uh was born on I guess
Monday morning early and he was made it to see the birth with his daughter and his wife in Indiana. So congratulations Mr. Perry. >> Thank you mayor. Uh yeah. [applause] >> Yep. Moving on. Madame clerk, >> the first item on the agenda is a
presentation for our quarterly employee recognition. >> All right. Thank you. Come forward, Miss Nilsa. >> Thank you. Good morning, Mayor, City Council, Mr. Perry, Mr. Williams, Attorney Woodell,
Chief Gear, and Chief Kramer. I'm Nelson Taylor, director of administrative services. Today, it gives me great pleasure to recognize several employees for accomplishments that resulted in exceptional customer service, teamwork,
and commitment, and outstanding support to another department. The quarterly recognition program is to recognize employees and/or teams that demonstrate outstanding service to the city of
Bradenton are citizens and co-workers. Employees were nominated by their peers, supervisors or directors and evaluated accordingly. Based on these accomplishments, we are pleased to announce employee of the quarter, team
of the quarter, and two runner-ups. >> Good morning, mayor, council. Uh, first we would like to start with our first runnerup. If Mr. Shan Heran could come up, please. [applause] Sean Haran is our uh superintendent of
the streets and drainage division. He's been uh nominated on behalf of citizen miss Gail Lofren uh from the Ironwood sits condom condominiums. Uh recently she became aware of a broken pipe in a storm drain on their property and the
broken pipe was causing a large sunken area in their side yard which was very concerning. Mr. Shan Heran took charge of the project and led a very impressive crew of employees. These men repaired the storm drain, replaced the broken
pipe, replaced the saw that had to be dug up, and replace the stones on the patio. The pipe extended from the storm drain to the pond in the back of the condominium. So, you can imagine the scope of the project. We would like to extend our sincere thank you to the city
of Bradington for quickly recognizing the issue which could have turned into a dangerous situation and give high praise for the professionalism and response of city employees who provided exemplary service and results. Uh we were totally
impressed with the service provided and care that they took in restoring our property to its original condition and eliminating what could have turned into a real problem. We are grateful to the city and you should be proud to be represented by these employees led by
Mr. Shan Heran from the streets and drainage division. So at this time if you all would join me in uh recognizing Mr. Haran for our first [applause] >> [applause] >> Thank you.
And at this time, will Miss Zelda Bryant come forward [applause] as she comes up? Miss Zelda Bryant is our second runner up, nominated by Susanna Ackles. Zetto takes on many hats at one time and shows composure while
doing her job. Her priority is always to fulfill customer needs as she completes the details of state and city codes involved in each transaction. She always shows each customer and city employee respect no matter the situation and serves everyone with a smile and an
environment you would want to be in. Zelda is never afraid to educate and train her team. If she does not know an answer, she will go overboard to find the answer. She is the role model for planning permitting division. She is called upon by her peers to assist with
the permitting process and procedures. She is a positive role model and provides consistent exemp exceptional customer support and service to all. So thank you Miss Zelda. [applause] Thank you.
Thank you, Miss Standifer. And uh team of the quarter. This team nomination was submitted by Mr. Sha Heran on behalf of Bradenton citizen Floyd Pierce. Citizen Pierce would like to recognize and
commend several employees from public works streets and drainage. Ted Holly and I would like these employees to start coming forward please. Ted Holly, Jude Placid, Daryl Baker, Marco Edmund,
Diane Gonzalez, Greg Hillibbrand, Corbett Mabberry, Roberto Ramirez, Damas Raymond, John Simmons, and Alex Smith for their exceptional dedication
and commitment to public service. >> [applause] [applause] >> And to give some context to this, on their scheduled off on their scheduled day off, this team went above and beyond by working extra hours to ensure our city roads were repaired promptly and
maintained in a condition that is safe for all who travel on them. Their efforts did not go unnoticed. The level of dedication reflects high standards of professionalism and proud in serving our community. Congratulations.
[applause] >> So once everything's done, we'll have everybody come back up and get a big picture. So yep. >> And uh lastly, employee of the quarter. Employee of the quarter, Garrett Falconer.
[applause] Mr. Falconer was nominated by Officer Ian Emer. As fleet superintendent, Garrett has many responsibilities, not just making sure fleet services runs efficiently, but ensure services are
completed in a timely manner and issues are addressed. His efforts keep those that keep that help keep the city running, the roads maintained, the landscaping kept, the garbage trucks collecting garbage, and the patrol
vehicles out patrolling. It never fails anytime Garrett is called, he is eager to assist in any way he can. if a battery needs to be replaced. So, the high school has a light tower for their football game or police needs a tire for
a trailer or assistance with a gas pump that isn't working properly. Garrett is willing to help no matter the issue. Recently, police department's heavyduty dual truck would not start. Officer
Emmerick called Garrett at 5:50 a.m. This was over an hour before Garrett's shift start. Not only did Garrett answer the phone, but he assured someone would be there immediately. 10 minutes later, there was a technician
in the parking lot uh of the station trying to get the truck running. G Garrett arranged for a tow truck and was able to secure another suitable vehicle capable of moving heavyduty security
camera trailers, four-wheelers, and side by sides to GT Bray Park for the Charlie Kirk Vigil. It was if it was not for Garrett Falconer's dedication and commitment to the city, these tasks would not have
been able to have been completed in a timely manner. He was and is there when we need him. It is because of this his dedication and professionalism should be recognized. Officer Ian Emer, congratulations.
[applause] >> [applause] >> He He's also not a bad cook either. [laughter] >> With some help from others, right, Eddie? [laughter] >> No. All right. >> And at this time, I would like all those that were recognized to please step
forward so we can do a photos. >> We'll do is have everybody line up in front and we'll stand here. So, >> you going to let her get on something that's high? Do you have it?
>> Are you sure? >> Got to squeeze over to the other side. Some two on the other side. [laughter] >> You look like they're gonna say, "Wow." >> Weird, right? >> Yeah. Rob's good thing Rob's back. He's
[laughter] >> awesome. >> GQ right here. >> Look at David at the camera. >> Stephen Spielberg Perry. >> Awesome. Great job. Congratulations. [applause] >> We just want to and I'll let the council
say anything too before you all walk out that um thank you for all that you do. The city could not run without obviously everyone that's in this room and the rest of your um friends and and family that work with us because I know we do have a lot of husband and wives and
different family members that work together um or work for the city and we just want to say thank you because most times you are the face of the city. You know, we get up and we get the spears thrown at us sometimes and we get the accolades but but you guys are the ones getting that for us. So, thank you for
all you do and uh we really appreciate it. Any counsel? >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. [applause] >> Thank you. Have a great day. [applause] >> Mr. Mayor, just just real quick, I've
had an opportunity to work with a lot of these folks really closely and exactly what you just said. They truly unsung heroes of the city and they do a phenomenal job. very dedicated and uh we're just very fortunate to have them. So >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> All right, Madame Clerk, it's citizen comments now. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. At this time, citizen comments will be accepted during the citizen comment portion of the meeting on any non-aggenda item, agenda item, future agenda item, or topic of relevance to the city. Comments will be accepted on the public hearings at the
appropriate time. And I do have two cards. Remember that you please come up and state your name, your city of residence, and you will have three minutes. And the the council will not engage during the citizen comment till at the end. So first I have Jennifer
Hoffman. >> Good morning. >> Good morning everyone. Uh I am Jennifer Hoffman, executive director of Keep Manatee Beautiful and also a resident of Bradenton. And so, uh, I wanted to take
this opportunity since it's under staff, uh, just to let you know how incredibly popular the tree giveaways have been through the Bradenon tree board. I am also the chair of the tree board. Um, we
have given away 2700 trees that you all have paid for since uh, the hurricanes. So, it is an incredibly popular thing and one of the things that we'll be
asking for is the October, November, December payments, but also if you guys want to continue on into the next year because our original agreement was only this year. So, we're December. But I also wanted to just put a little bug in
your ear. Uh being that this is America 250 that we're coming into uh Earth Day this year, we are doing a large project in downtown Bradon and downtown Palmetto getting you guys ready for the whole shebang. And it's just going to be an
entire beautifification. And I just wanted you guys to know so that you could get uh April 18th on your calendars. And we would love to see all of you out there. Um, you know, getting sweaty and dirty. Uh, Kemp was trial by
fire. He came out and did all of the mulching with us this last month. And of course, our lovely mayor is is at almost all of our events, uh, he and his wife. But I'm just so excited and truly truly blessed that I get to be a part of y'all
and help you guys get your mission out there um, in a very visible way. So, I wanted to take the chance to thank you, wish you all a happy, happy holidays, and let's have a great next year. >> Great. Thank you.
>> Thanks, guys. >> Uh, next we have Pat Simmons. >> Good morning, Miss Simmons. >> Good morning, Pat Man County. Is that Do you see it? Okay. >> Yes, ma'am.
>> This is a sticker that I designed and it says fix in 26. [snorts] And the wheelchair obviously is for people that use mobility devices is to
honor them. The microphone is EI and it represents people with communication disorders like myself.
And then the X there's a white cane for people with um low vision or blind. And what I'm looking for is a sponsor to
get these stickers made because what I want to do is to give these stickers out to businesses and companies, restaurants, governments
that um [clears throat] take a pledge and say they will do one or two or whatever simple fixes to make life just a little
easier for people with disabilities. If they do that, I'll give them a sticker and they can put it [laughter] on their front window and that way people will know, hey, I'm welcome here.
the I got this idea in New Orleans about seven [clears throat] years ago because they had um pelican stickers everywhere. They were trying to drum up support for
their MBA team and there were stickers everywhere. So, I thought, why not do that here for people with disabilities?
Last night, I was at a restaurant that has an access lane that that ends into a curb. and uh the manager heard me asking
someone about it and he came flying out and said, "We'll look into this tomorrow." Um the city of New Orleans, I emailed [laughter] them the last time I was there.
>> All right. Thank you. you and I know we have been uh I have no other citizen comment so I know that um you'd sent me some stuff and Kelly my assistant and I were looking into some things but I I will reach out to Miss Simmons and there's some uh some ideas I have that
might be able to help because my personal opinions the sticker might not get what you messaged but maybe a QR code on it that would take you somewhere but let me reach out to you and >> and do that. Thank you. >> Please do. Thank you. >> All right. Any other
citizen comments? Seeing none, any council comments? >> Oh, yes. Would you just have to fill out a card, but come up and talk then fill out the card afterwards. >> You don't you can you can still talk. I mean, >> yeah, but you can come up and do your
three minutes and then just fill out the card and give it to Miss Melton after done. >> So, you have three minutes. Please state your name and your city of residence. Uh Colton Herman. I'm live in Bradenton. Uh and I'm just uh
concerned about affordability right now. Um, I wrote out this whole basically like a budget that would um, put me under like I don't have enough money to even
live on my own in a studio apartment here in Bradon. And I'm sure a lot of people in my demographic or whatever also feel the same way. Um,
it's not even just like a feeling. It's just facts. Like when you you can't even afford, you know, like health insurance or anything like that. like um can't even afford to like go out
just like work all the time. Um so yeah, I guess I'm concerned about uh taxes going up, rent going up, and uh the minimum wage staying the
same. So, uh, I don't know if you guys can do anything about that, but yep, just wanted to put that out there. Affordability, it's right around the corner.
Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. All right. Um, don't have any other cards, like I said, and anything else. All right. Thank you very much. want to keep going.
>> Let's do it now. Let's get now. Yeah. >> Oh, Miss >> Did you want council comments? >> Yeah, that's Is there any comments? [clears throat] >> Uh, two things. First off, with regard to uh keep manity beautiful, I I uh 100%
I think part of our identity is so tied to our trees. So, I I am in full support of of you know, supporting the trees. [laughter] Uh anyhow and uh the other thing um the the discussion of affordability lately
has really I mean of course we're all concerned about that especially that is a very common um thing that we hear. I think our job needs to focus on jobs. We've got to set policies and be leaders
that have an atmosphere that wants businesses to thrive here and that create good paying jobs. Um I I realize we have to work we've we've done quite a bit to for affordable affordable housing, but I think that the real key
is to um lifting everybody up by having the good paying jobs. And some of the rhetoric that you hear right now, I think is very anti- business. um you know, a lot of the discussion and this is really more dealing with um the
growth out east, but when you start shutting down growth and shutting down things like that, you're you're killing industries. You're not you're not they they think they're just hurting the big developers, but they're hurting the painters, the drywallers, the brick layers, the the realtors, the the
lenders. I mean, they're killing the economy and killing the industry. So, we need I'm not saying growth at all costs, but I think that the real focus needs to be on having good leadership that's willing to go out there and make
decisions that are going to help our industries grow and have good paying jobs. Just have to say that. >> Vice Mayor Moore, >> um I I can Well, first actually, let me also say that out of the 2,700 trees, I am the proud owner of three of them now,
and I love that program. Um, but I I I echo your sentiments. I think that um we're on the same page as I think that up here we are definitely economic development is a thing that we're trying to focus on and that's what we do potentially have a little bit more
control over. I want to commend you for coming up and speaking because I have children I suspect about your age and I think that there's a um a temptation to not engage uh because of the difficulty. So, I appreciate you coming up here to
say that. Another uh thing I think that we can do and I think that we all do is advocacy. I just spoke to um a state legislature that or state legislature who asked us to basically, you know, be the the boots on the ground and let them know what people are thinking and
feeling. And so, it's very helpful when PE community members come and and tell us what they're thinking and feeling so that we can convey that as well. Um uh so anywh who but I think to uh Councilwoman Coker's point, I think our
focus on on downtown economic development and the surrounding areas is what we can do to kind of further uh make it more vibrant and more affordable for our residents. >> All right. Thank you. And yeah, that's
one of the things that since I've been up here as mayor or as a council member that we have tried to make things affordable housing. We put 700 plus units in downtown. Some of them seem not as affordable, but we say workforce attainable. Some of those key words that
are making a difference. Um, we've got some opportunity even on this agenda today to add some more that will be down the road. Um, also with some of our changes that we made to our density and our heights and what those were can
actually grow some of that affordability even though we took out a portion of that in the downtown urban core. You know, sometimes you have to take something away to get more of that. And when it was a hindrance to every project
that we were doing saying that you have to have this much of something and it actually was stopping progress. Now by eliminating that once these projects get going the city will actually have more opportunity to get some of that
workforce attainable um type of housing. Um obviously we don't control the the rates unfortunately so you know the u minimum wage and all of that but we have tried to make it where some of the things are more affordable when you're
doing that you know and then we're really trying to to look at those things because we all have um kids and that have gone through and and really worked it in the time and one of the things that I did see the other day that was
interesting um when you really go back can look at the cost of homes today from compared to 50, 80, 100 years ago, everything has articulated pretty consistently up. If your grandparents bought a home and then you bought a home and then or your parents bought a home
and then you bought a home, it's very similar. The things of today though is we all have higher car payments. We all have cell phones. We all have amenities that we I didn't have because it was most important thing to me was to buy my home. and I drove two old beers that we
had, but I was fortunate enough my mom and dad helped me, my wife's mom and dad helped her. We kept those cars for several years until we were able to do things. So, sometimes it's always not just an affordability situation, it's a spending issue. So we talked about some
areas that maybe we train maybe we give some in the insurance committee the other day we talked about how we might give some of that help people with you know some affordability and have some training on that retirements and that. So, I think there's a lot of opportunity
that we can help our staff see some of that. But if everybody has two $700 car payments, they're not going to be able to afford a house. And you know, sometimes that just has to be looked at in internally and training and giving some opportunity to learn about it. So,
and then obviously Keep Manity Beautiful I love. So, um loved it for everyone when we used to do it on 26th Street by the funeral home. um had our sign up there and I would I didn't just do it once a quarter. We did it every day driving down 26th Street going home from
work. But um it's been something that's great. We did all that bark I guess you call it with Ross and the group and all the guys out there and then we had like 25 people that were able to go through Village of the Arts and and Kemp um going out there and spreading. I think
we did almost 600 bags of it and I saw some areas we missed. So we got to get it. So, um, well, now that the parking lot's developed there by, uh, the Heric properties. So, but those things are great and the trees are great and that's one thing that I think that we got to
keep doing because that's what that tree funds for is to get more trees out and help our city. So, um, all right. Anybody else? Miss Coachman, >> thank you. Uh, yes, of course, keeping manity beautiful is definitely your mantra and it's actually what you do.
Um, but I want to say to the young man that that spoke, I hope you leave here feeling that what you said was heard and it didn't fall on deaf ears. >> All right. Thank you very much. We'll move on. Mr. Perry, did we want to
>> Sure. Mary got a special recognition today of an employee that's going to be retiring. >> Uh, Mr. Bruner is in the back and he of course is our facilities um manager and he's done a great job for the city. Uh Lori, his wife is with him. She works for the city as well. Has done a great
job. If you guys could come up a little to the podium and >> Lance, you want to take it? >> Uh Mr. Lee is gonna >> Mr. Lee take care of it. Thank you. Yes, sir. >> Come [clears throat] on up, Don. >> Come on up. >> You Yep. You and your family. >> Don't be shy.
>> Yor. [laughter] >> And if you know Lori, you know Lory's not shy. Urban League, director of public works and utilities. >> Get closer to the microphone. >> Urban Lee, director of public works and utilities. Uh I thought it was very appropriate after yesterday's uh lunchon
uh that we take a few moments uh to to recognize you know and and I I I've said this many times um uh there's so much that goes into a career especially a career in
public service um and the career that that Don has chosen um literally has impacted you all up close and personal because the the the work that he's done uh not only uh you know for for city
facilities but in particular here at city hall uh again you you all have have benefited from it and and I believe that um it has been a positive experience for you uh and I I I couldn't let us get away or let him get out of here after 30
years of service to the city of Bradenon and the citizens of Bradon. I I I I asked him to to come up. I know he really didn't want any recognition, didn't want
any special uh consideration taken for him, but uh the the kinds of things that he does behind the scenes uh uh and and it's not the uh it it it's it's not the
big uh huge uh parades and and you know accolades that that go along with with the city, but it's those little things that that he's done uh to to to make a decision to to to make a procurement
action uh to do something um to keep the environment the the temperature just right. Um and and these are things that that go unnoticed. uh and I wanted to make sure
that he knows that not only from my perspective I'm in and my uh tenure here compared [clears throat] to to his service is just a a vapor uh but I wanted you to hear it from from me and
and let these folks, you know, give you the accolades that that that you would do uh for a sustained career of of support and service to people who really appreciate it. So, that's all I had for you. [clears throat] >> Thank you.
>> No, no, no, no. Come up. Come up to the microphone. >> Still working. Um, I'll start out and I and I probably didn't really over all my years being here really understand as much and I know Mr. Callahan's in the audience and and when we shuttered the
the uh banquet hall there and and all that we've done, you know, over the years and you were doing a lot of that and it was really really looking at it many years ago, but probably didn't realize your importance until the POC and especially two years ago with the hurricanes that
went through and that building just opening up and what you did to get us a couple of years earlier into that building when it was just a building and we kind of managed it a little bit um for a storm or two but didn't have anything in it really. It was just the walls right at that point. then changing
that into what it is today and thank goodness we didn't have to use it this year but it's so important that you've kept the little things the auditorium that over the years and you know like I said behind the scenes as much as possible but you know you think 30 years
of stuff and uh I can see the emotion that you know as we get older we get a little more emotional at times and you don't think you will but I just want to say thank you because you can't replace what you've done for us. But, you know, and I know we've pushed it a lot the last few years, more than we had
probably in a lot of years, but thank you very much. And I think the citizens, you know, don't see it, but that's what's the most important is that you did it when it mattered and got things done 247. I mean, I think that's probably the thing that I I realized more than not. So, from my standpoint,
I'll say thank you. I know others will, too. But, Mr. Perry, >> thanks, Mayor. And just to echo on some of your thoughts, it's uh I think people kind of like look at things out of sight, out of mind and and Don kind of is the out of sight getting things done
in mind. Um every facility we have has a tag number and I think there's what 500 plus num facilities different types of assets we have that are considered facilities. And it's not just daytoday facility maintenance, whether it's city
hall or the peace or or a pirate city or or the golf course um and things like that. But he's also an ambassador and our our our facilities that we rent out, lease out over at the garage for retail space. When we first activated those, I
think Don and I were talking about somewhere in the order of probably five to eight times a a weekend uh because of evaporation that was leaking on inventory, air conditioning, and Don would would get out there and and and take readings and try to deal with those
problems. And he was a great ambassador for us uh with the public as well as in the internal and things like that. And again, like the employees we had this morning, kind of making us all look good. And then in emergency situations you take for granted like those storms we were talking about and for sure
preparation of emergency operations center and and everything that he did there. But also after the fact he had to basically go out and get all those roofs fixed, those buildings restructured, all the mechanical systems and everything else. And he's put together a great team. It's not just Don as an
individual, but it's Don as a manager. Don is somebody that cares. Don is somebody takes pride in his work. And Don has been here for 30 years doing it day in and day out. So, I just want to express my appreciation for that and acknowledgement of all the things you do that are both seen and unseen. >> Thank you, Mr. Williams.
>> So, I'm just going to echo what the mayor and Mr. Perry said. So, Don and I have worked closely, I don't know, for the last 11 years, but more closely, you know, recently, but um Don is one of those gentlemen that you can call and he's going to talk through a situation.
He's going to find out what the best solution is, but he's also mindful of the fiscal side and what it how it affects employees and not even just his employees. He takes care of all of the employees u because of our facilities
management. He's done a phenomenal job in in in leadership with the facilities group and he's done a phenomenal job with the leadership in the electrical division as well. We always talk about facilities and you think of Don Brunner, right? and he's, trust me, the man has a
wealth of knowledge far beyond facilities. Um, but he he handled our demolition for our public works division. Um, he's he's kind of a a jack of all trades and probably mastered most of them. So, um, no. All right. [laughter] And I know he likes to work
on cars, too. So, um, but Don, I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart that, you know, our relationship and working together and trying to make the city a better place um, couldn't have done it without you. and I truly appreciate it. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Williams. >> Mker,
>> just very quickly, um, we haven't had a lot of interaction, which I think is kind of testament to the good job that you've done. Um, but I I really feel like it's important to call attention to um, in this day of transfer portals and
instant gratification. I I just want to thank you for your loyalty. 30 years staying with the city. I mean, that kind of loyalty is uh something that I hope starts to come back to to to some of the the people in the world right now. And
so, I just want to thank you for that and call attention to it and and I wish you all the best. >> Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Miss Moore. Thank you. I would like to echo that sentiment um again because um I often say that one of uh one of my prayers for my
17-year-old son is that he would appreciate the what it feels like to accomplish something and the um and that feeling that you get from a job well done and hard work and I feel like you're exemplifying that and putting it into you know something that is uh
tangible and it's admirable. So, I'm excited to uh wish you well, but thank you also for your service. >> Great, >> Ditto, [laughter] >> Miss Barnaby. >> Well, I haven't known the city without
you >> because you got here before me and now you're leaving before me. But you have certainly earned your retirement. I wish you the very best and I thank you for your service, your loyalty, [cough] and the example that you have set for
everyone. You are a true gentleman. Thank you, >> Chief Kramer. >> Thank you, Don. Um, we've known each other quite a while. I appreciate everything you've done for us at our department. Um, I liked being able to talk to you because you didn't sugarcoat
stuff. I didn't, which I really appreciate because you just cut right to it and that's what we needed. um doing what we had to get done. So, thank you and thank you for what you contributed to our new build uh with the generator and I know Brian said a lot of electrical uh advice work on that. So,
thank you, >> Chief Gear. It it was kind of a running joke all through the years about every time I called you, it wasn't to see how you were doing that day [laughter] and and it was always oh no. And uh I appreciate you always answering and um from all the
incidents we had and you assisted with and uh more than just facilities, but all through the night and it was always true. I never called for anything good and I appreciate you always answering and so thank you. You'll be missed. >> Yeah. And I just listen to everybody and
like you said a lot of times they're behind the scenes or getting things done but it's that important to us to make sure that it's done so we can operate and like I said until the Pock I didn't really understand as much of what you did from that standpoint. But seeing
that and and not just you know a lot of facility people are like in one area one facility but you had the whole city. So again, thank you for all that you've done and um the institutional knowledge that when you know when you leave um but
maybe some phone calls I'm sure who comes in and what they do hopefully [laughter] keep answering just for a little while might need you cut it off. So thank you very much and uh do you have anything you'd like to say? >> Uh it's been a good run. >> Y
>> and there are people in place to take care of what I did. Well, that's that's the good sign of a great leader that somebody can come in and follow up that's in house. So, we appreciate that and and congratulations and enjoy the next 30 years. So, yeah, try. Thank you.
[applause] >> [applause] >> retired city administrator Callahan. How >> is retirement? >> And I just want to say one thing that that Don was unbelievable. I mean, from the 26 years that he started over overlapped almost entirely with me for those that time. And the one thing that
you all know me that um what I believed in and he absolutely took to the furthest way was a common sense approach to problem solving. And that was I would like to say it's it was too unusual but that's pretty much exactly what he did. And I will officially take him out of my
cell phone now. [laughter] Thank you. [applause] All right. We've had a great morning and some great information so far. And so, madame clerk, >> item six is the consent agenda and staff is requesting approval of items A
through W. >> Chair will entertain a motion. I I uh would like to um if we could just discuss item 6N. Uh >> approve the consent agenda. Taken off N.
Yeah, I just think there's a discussion a bigger discussion to be had. >> All right. So, we'll go um A through W with N off to discuss. >> Second. [snorts] >> All right. >> Mr. Mayor, I just want to for the record
just note that um I had the opportunity to talk to each council member individually um discuss all the items on the consent agenda and answer any questions they may have. >> Good. Okay. Perfect. So, we have a motion to approve consent agenda A through W, but pulling in for further discussion by Councilman Schustler and
seconded by Councilwoman Coker. Um, we'll start the vote in W two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Approved five to zero. Councilman Schustler, >> you have some questions on an or
>> Yes. just regarding N you know we have the workshop coming up um that uh part of that workshop is on solid waste and in general I just think there's a lot of unknowns uh regarding uh solid waste in
a in a larger discussion to be had. Uh so in line with that, I just think it's a little bit preliminary to uh perhaps be adding a new garbage truck until we can have that larger discussion around uh solid waste.
>> Okay, Mr. Williams. >> So thank you, sir. Um so we had uh Mr. Schuster or Councilman Susler and I had a conversation about some of the vehicles that we we were purchasing. Um what you're looking at on Elmo right now
is our pictures of the vehicles that are used in our solid waste division. So you're looking at a garbage truck, uh a I think there's a Grappler truck on there and then there's um a rolloff uh truck as well. Um so some of the things
that we look at um looking kind of into the future and and like men mentioned we have a a meeting tomorrow or a workshop tomorrow to discuss um solid waste in general. Um but some of this this business um you know when we talked
about reserves back in the past this is what we're buying and these these vehicles are assets. We run we run a utility or I'm sorry we run an enterprise. Uh solid waste is an enterprise and this is part of the equipment that needs to be refreshed um you know every every so often usually
five to seven years. Um there's some things that we're going to mention or talk about tomorrow to try to provide some suffic efficiencies. Um but some of the the rolloff equipment that you're seeing we we're kind of identifying some opportunities uh to kind of cover those costs. So
>> I just wanted to add a couple of things here. The list of equipment too I believe includes about six different pieces of equipment. Some of it is not directly related to solid waste. So I want to show you a couple examples of pieces of equipment that we have. I believe there's potentially I think there's two maybe three of these. These
are actually from the mechanical division. And you know what these these heavy duty pickup trucks do? They back up to basically big big lift stations and they pull pumps out of the ground. And those pumps are basically made of wire and steel and they weigh a lot. You
see that crane on the back? That pickup truck right there basically lists on a government contract for $60,000. But when you add in all the equipment and aperture related to it, if you look at that photograph, you'll see a crane that's attached to it. Crane is operated by a hydraulic pump. You'll see
outriggers that stabilize the vehicle so that it can pick up I think the I think it's 60,000 lbs on the max on that. And what we have to be able to do is pull up to lift station 14 and pull those pumps out of the ground so we can clean rags. We can change out the pumps. We can do the switching and things like that. And
so we operate these enterprises and the for the purposes of solid waste. Solid waste is about 11 million a year enterprise. We bring in $1 million basically. Our operating cost out of that is about probably nine n. But then we have to capitalize it with repair and
replacement equipment. Whether we're building plants out at the Detroit, Michigan for Henry Ford which has a bunch of tooling equipment basically to build vehicles or whether we're operating a solid waste or mechanical system for for water and soar really what does that is two things uh men
women and equipment labor and equipment and we have to recapitalize that equipment. Now I understand that coming up we are having a a discussion tomorrow in the workshop about the solid waste mater uh program itself. However, those vehicles that were depicted there do a
little bit more than just solid waste, too. I want to give you an example of this piece. >> Mr. Perry, the the item he's talking about one truck 6. >> Mine was specific to Is it specific to that? >> 6N. So, >> that would Can you give us That's the >> Peter built 520.
>> It's the first one 6N. >> And yeah, and I I understand fully that a lot of these vehicles are end of life and I I agree with you that they should be replaced. My query was specific to uh solid waste and I just think that with it coming up in a workshop and a a bunch
of unknowns regarding round it Mr. Perry that we should >> any you know uh Mr. Williams had said that there were perhaps a truck outside of that that was involved in in solid waste maybe the rollers but mine was just specific to adding a new vehicle in
front of a discussion that is yet to be had. I just thought it was preliminary. should be a number on it. >> Peter bill 520. >> So, yeah. >> Well, we can certainly we can certainly pass this and and pick it up again. Um,
we want to make sure that we kind of lock in any contract pricing. Uh, that's >> that's what I was going to ask. Is there >> a big price? One of the things I think that we've, you know, and obviously we'll have the discussion tomorrow. Um, even if some of our solid waste did
adjust in a way, this is the most lucrative part of solid waste is the commercial. >> Absolutely. >> That we would would keep up. And I think that's where, you know, when we see how things go tomorrow. >> Um, and and again, I don't know if this
matters for uh two weeks that or three weeks that we don't order it or is there a price break if we order it now because it's end of year. >> Yeah, I can actually. Yeah, I so there there is with um with the government contract they do have windows of opportunity to order. So we want to make
sure that we stay in that window, but we can certainly address that. We can even I guess get discuss it tomorrow if >> if need be, >> but we won't be able to pass anything to January meeting if we >> um but I we can find out with Garrett, our fleet manager, you know, that's an opportunity. But um yeah, I think even
though I'm trying to figure out what this particular vehicle is because we have the Grappler and the Rolloff. Um >> that's the front end load, >> right? >> Yeah. The Grappler obviously is what we pick up our our bulk items with and then the rolloff is on the commercial more on
a commercial basis. >> But yeah, for commercial dumpsters. Yeah. Yeah. That's a large rolloff. >> That's the We have it up. We have it on our >> we call a [clears throat] crusher. It's a standardized front front end loader. >> It's on our screen. So
>> yeah, same thing. So >> yeah, that's >> Yeah. So um but and also though if if anything did change or we adjusted if if something happened, anybody we dealt with would take over our equipment and
give us current cash value. So >> I think that >> regarding that, I think my only concern would be if you know just when you roll a new car off the lot, it immediately depreciates. So that was my hesitancy to begin with. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And just uh just one more comment
that these types of vehicles actually take about 18 months to produce. >> So typically much like the you know our heavy equipment in a fire department, there's somebody that's going to take that vehicle. So, if we decide at some point we want to back out of it, then we
haven't had any issues of being able to to not purchase or complete the purchase of a a trash vehicle. We've never really had to do that. But, um there are there is a demand for these vehicles. That's why it takes so long to to get them from from order to actually on the lot in our
loan. >> So, Councilwoman Barnaby, then Coker, then more. Um, gentlemen, is this this is not an addition to the fleet. Is this a replacement vehicle? Um, and it seems
like every time I'm driving down 9inth Street, I see one of our vehicles either being repaired or the tires worked on or something. And I, you know, we run >> our vehicles till they basically don't
run much more kind of thing. So my the questions that I had was this isn't an addition this is a replacement vehicle and number two um it do we have some sort of pricing differential located now as opposed to
if we order it three four months from now kind of thing. Um because some sometimes, for example, with the fire trucks, we had [clears throat] the opportunity to lock in a very specific lower price if we placed the order by a certain time and that's why the council
chose to do it. >> I think generally speaking, that's a great question, too. I I can't tell you about the specifics as it relates to the the the pricing lock of it, but they typically are priced on a lock for a period of time, whether it's 30, 60, or 90 days. You pointed out the example of
the fire truck, which is basically the platform that we purchased three years ago that was delivered this year. We paid $1.5 million for. When we ordered one this year that will be then delivered three years from now, it was $2.5 million. And so we're always
concerned about escalation and particularly in today's world, talking um to Mr. Coloulton regarding affordability and and you know, I talk with vendors all the I go, "How does things go up that much?" Whether it's building materials or heavy equipment, whatever. And and I get this common
answer. It's because they charge what they can. I I don't I don't know what that says. I have an economics degree. I've never heard that theory, you know, in in any economics background. Uh typically, it's a supply demand type situation, right? But for whatever reason, we are always concerned about
escalation. An interesting thing you're going to hear about the ironwood is is the quote that we have for construction on that has an escalation provision and it the long cover. >> Yeah. >> I'm not saying I I I'm kind of with councelor Chisler on this to the extent
of if we want to hold off on end I don't have a problem. It's probably a good idea um on end but we will have to come back eventually. And the reality is is that that equipment we drive it in the millions of miles a year. That's it's like a city bus, you know, the a transit
bus. They put a lot miles on these things. Um, their lifespan is is they're ridden hard and put away used. It's just the nature of the beast. That thing weighs 60,000 lbs. It's about what $400,000 thereabouts. All kinds of
different equipment on it. We've done what we can. You know, mayor had a great and you all approved the thing about putting the Sims Sera system on there, the cameras, and you can actually get on our whether you want to or not, him and I get noticed every day about incidents and it's the craziest thing. You see
these trucks, how they work >> and the conditions they have to work under because again, it's about labor and it's about equipment that's brings in and operates that 11 million industry >> for the city. So if we can uh table this
or delay it and if we get somewhere where we need to have a special meeting just to approve that because of >> once we talk tomorrow and you know before Christmas to approve it if it comes down to where it's going to save us money and we've realized what we've
got to do. I think that's an opportunity. So Miss Coker and then Miss Moore. >> Yeah. Uh I think what I would like to hear is um a couple of things. First off, I I think part of the reason why they they price what they want because
is because they don't have competition. And um I wonder if out there, you know, with technologies coming ahead, you know, with AI, with everything, are there other ways of doing things? I
mean, I'm not in the in that business, but neither really are y'all. Um, but are is there someone who is in the business that goes to these trade shows and knows what the best practices are? Um, because I'm concerned as we're
redeveloping downtown that these big commercial trucks are going to be more difficult to get through and service all of the businesses that I'm hoping we're going to be having come. Um, so I just would like to make sure that we're staying on top of
technology and best practices and and all that. And uh, >> what I can tell you about that is is that I don't do it for business. Mr. Moira does it for a business. >> That's what >> Mr. Mo worked for me since 2009 in the city of Albuquerque, which has 300,000
accounts. We have 16,000 here. Um, the way they do it in the city of Albuquerque back then is the same way they do it in the city of Bradenton today with equipment and labor. It's all diesel there. You know, they have looked at natural gas that so there's been some
of that stuff that's dealt with it. But at the end of the day, when you think about it, solid waste hasn't really transformed itself with a high degree of technology because it has to do a route and the routing and the dispatch and the use of that equipment to get on the
roads to pick things up from a from a service area to take it to a consolidated dump area. Um, it really hasn't changed. Um, and and I don't see it really changing a whole lot. Um, I don't think there's we're going to get drones to come pick up your trash.
I don't think that we're going to get robots. I don't think that somebody's going to be able to digitalize it. What we're going to have is a is a hardworking city employee that get drives a truck, gets off the back of that truck or operates some hydraulic equipment.
>> Yeah. I I I mean, I'm not in the business, but I haven't seen anything that looks like that technology is going to impact it. But Mr. Moore would be probably >> because he's done it for a lifetime. Well, and I think too we've seen some, you know, we talked about the one arm
pickup, the truck. So, I mean, that's an example of how maybe some technology has changed, but you're still looking at a $400,000, $500,000 vehicle. Um, but, you know, some of the events we've had recently with our police department, our fire department, you've seen the smaller
uh trash trucks. So, we do have a variety of different sizes for different purposes. Um, so as things develop and specifically downtown, we can accommodate some, you know, some of those, I guess, space issues, uh, you know, if you will, but we, you know,
you're still looking at several hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on how large the vehicles are. >> Vice Mayor Moore, >> um, I I also had asked Mr. Williams about that and I but and I do have
though some confidence based on some conversations with Wastist Bro at conferences and whatnot that they do help you with dealing with your fleet if you if we move to that. Um but I since you have brought this up though because I think that it's a good thing to have brought up. Um I'll note that the quote
expired in November. So unless you all have some confidence that there's really some savings to doing it right now, I wouldn't be adverse to a special meeting if that was the case so that we could flesh it out tomorrow if that would reassure everyone for the for that purpose. So I was just going to say I'm
I'm okay with that. >> All right. We can have a special >> meeting >> if we need to next week. >> Seriously, I mean probably if it's >> Yeah. >> If anything else pops up too >> Yeah. Because we'll have the workshop tomorrow. we can get some additional information >> and then and then schedule a special
meeting. >> And I do know what we talk about daily about different things is you guys don't want to spend $400,000 either. But even if things did transition differently than what I think in my own mind could
happen from previous council meetings that we've discussed things, >> we're still going to need a truck >> to do the job. And the trucks we have aren't sufficient to last us another year. >> And um unfortunately they wear out
quickly because we do ride them very hard. And if one breaks down, we're in trouble. I'm getting calls from Shake Pit. I'm getting calls from everywhere that their garbage isn't picked up. And these businesses that do two, three, four days a week can't afford to miss
one day. Or sometimes you might miss a a green can and they can maybe go another day. Waterworks pier. >> Oh, pier. Yeah. All of them. >> Yeah. So, um, >> but anyway, no, I think that's good. And like I said, it it I don't have a
problem calling it if it's if if they say it can wait till January, whatever our first meeting is, okay? If not, we need to call it to get it. But, um, and again, these companies are 18 months out. So there's been times that we could adjust if we've ordered it and then say
cuz everybody will buy one. We've bought some before like that where it's special purchase where somebody calls and says, "Hey, >> we got cars." You know, >> Chicago backed out of 300 cars, get some, right? >> So um so do we just officially do we
have to table this or >> either staff can pull it >> pull it till it will pull it. >> So n will be pulled. Is that all right, Mr. Schustler? >> Yes. >> Okay. So it'll be pulled for further discussion. Okay. Thank you.
>> All right, Madame Clerk. >> At this time, I'll administer the oath. Anyone wishing to address the board during the following public hearings will please stand and raise your right hand. >> Do you swear or affirm that the factual statements and representations which you
are about to present to this board will be truthful and accurate? Thank you. Item 7A is resolution 2599 related to a special use permit to operate a drive-through restaurant.
>> All right, who do we have presenting? Oh, here she comes. Hi. Sorry that was short. Um, hello council. Um Jamie Shindolf with the planning department and I have been sworn.
All right. So, yes, as stated, this is a request before you today for a special use permit for a drive-through facility at uh 126 Fifth Avenue Drive East, 604 Second Street East, and 608 Second Street East here in Bradenon, Florida.
This is an overview of the case. Um, you can see it's about 3696 acres, um, currently vacant. This is the subject parcels zoned uh I'm sorry the future land use
is urban central business district and the zoning is T5. This is within our formbbased code area and drive-through facilities are listed as a special use. This is part of a planned retail development with a separate commercial
space to the south on these same properties. The future land use typically prohibits autoor oriented uses. However, this is within an exception area that was approved by city council. The overall purpose of the urban central business district category is to
establish, define, promote, and facilitate the redevelopment and enhancement of the city's primary and historical urban center. This is the site plan, which I know is very busy. Um, I've circled here specifically the proposed drive-thru.
Uh while you are approving the use today, the site plan is not currently completely code compliant. Um the applicant will need some form-based code adjustments. Specifically, they have applied for that form-based code review and received comments regarding what things do need to be um fixed to be fully up to code,
but this is a a general conceptual site plan um at this time. Here you can see what the property looks like now. These are our general special use standards. Um, all special uses are
meant to comply at a minimum with these standards. Um, the one I do want to point out which is very commonly a a difficult one for properties within the formbbased code to meet um is the landscape separation strip um that is required of at least 10 ft along all
property lines and streets. Um there is a proposed retaining wall and fence between this project and the property to the west. Um but otherwise it's it's obviously difficult when you're on these smaller properties in a denser area to provide that much separation.
Um these are the criteria that will be cited as reasons for approval or denial of the application. Um the things I want to point out here are that the provided parking per the plan we were provided with this application doesn't quite meet our code standards. um it doesn't meet the code standard for handicap parking
with um they may have fewer spaces than needed by about one and the dumpster location may not be serviceable. Um and they've been provided these comments and can make adjustments moving forward. Um regarding these criteria here, any
lighting or signage will be in accordance with our requirements and plan review during the building permit process will ensure compliance with those standards. They haven't provided signage or lighting plans at this point. It doesn't appear this use would have an impact on the value of surrounding properties given the existing and
planned uses around it such as uh drive-throughs already and a car wash. This property is located as stated in an exception area of our comp plan for those autooriented uses. And the hours of operation that have been proposed are approximately um 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
leaning more towards early mornings than late nights. Um so as stated there are some challenges potentially in meeting the special use criteria but planning commission voted um in November to recommend approval of this permit 61.
And we do have a representative of the applicant here and I think he does have some [clears throat] excuse me changes uh to show you all since they have met with our development re review committee and um address some of the comments. Any comments or questions from
Jamie first? All right. Thank you. Have the applicant. >> Thank you. >> I'll pick one. Go ahead. >> My name is Abid Sui. Braden, Florida. I'm representing the main city plaza
proposed building project that you see before you. Uh we have had our comments or our meeting about the comments. There have been adjustments with regards to the stack drive-thru. It went from 7 to 8. Our parking is in code now and there's
11 parking spots with one of them being for handicap. The total building space is 5200 square feet between the two buildings. Um, so that does meet the 500 square feet per parking spot. The dumpster, there's been two different proposals on conceptual drawings for
approval for public works to approve. We've moved the current dumpster site location that was approved by public works last year to a different spot on property as well as we're in discussions with KFC to share their part their dumpster and expand it as well as
potentially share their parking if business becomes too busy. So I can show you what we've done. >> [clears throat] >> on here. We've moved the dumpster that was here and we've put it on the corner
of the building so that a dumpst truck can pull in back out and continue back out on route with a one-way exit onto State Road 64. It's a oneway in except your drive-thru. coming out of the drive-thru, there's
only a one way out, and that would be to the right onto Fifth. Uh, in this particular plan, there's two different handicaps parking spots. It will be adjusted to where there will only be one, and you will have 10 parking spots plus one handicap.
Uh, what Jamie was talking in regards to the landscape strip right here on the west side, there's already current uh landscape of grass and some trees between KFC and the west side. the [clears throat] state road 64 side there's a setback rule for the building
has to be within 8 ft of property line. So we are going to adhere to that with also expanding the sidewalk so we stay within code as well as on the east side as well. And then the building size for the main
building will be 4,400 square feet and the other I'm sorry 4,230 square feet and the other building will be just under,00 ft bringing you just under 54 uh 5,300 ft.
>> Any questions? >> I [clears throat] have questions. Yeah. are I don't know am I allowed to ask I mean what what kind of restaurant this is going to be I I because I'm seeing two buildings I'm not totally understanding I don't know if I'm
allowed to ask that or not okay and um >> I'd also Yeah so I have a couple of little questions yeah >> far away >> so what what kind of restaurant is this why it's two buildings >> the only food establishment would be on the drive-through side it's either going
to be a Black Rifle Coffee Company or Dutch Brothers. Whereas the main the retail center will be actual retail like that we have an ebikes LOI as well as uh AT&T potentially will be moving there based on their score. >> Oh, so it'll be totally different
business. >> Yes, it'll be separate businesses. Correct. >> So the only drive-through is for the that smaller >> That's correct. >> Oh, okay. And how many cars did you say would stack up? >> Uh on this particular plan right now it's eight. >> Eight. Okay.
And then you also mentioned about the wall between with Ka. There's going to be >> not a wall. There is no wall. It's a patch of grass. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, I thought she said something about a wall. Okay. And then you might be able to share parking with them
>> if we need. We currently meet code with regards to parking >> and we are actually in the process of trying to purchase the KFC. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. That's all I had. Thank you. All right, Vice Mayor Moore. >> Um, when you say that you're doing this exit to the north [clears throat] on
State Road 64, do you mean Fifth Avenue Drive? >> No, that is for the exit only for drive-thru patrons that have finished their drive-thru. They will only be able allowed to turn right. It's a right turn only. >> Right. Okay. Right turn onto what though?
>> Fifth. I'm fifth. >> Um, Mr. Mr. Mayor, that doesn't mix here. >> Yeah, that doesn't make sense. >> Let me uh bring you up a different [clears throat]
>> because it's 6th Avenue on the south side of KFC. >> That's State Road 64. >> No, the north side is State Road 64. It's the one way they call it, but it's Sixth Avenue. >> Right. >> Right. >> May I interject? >> Yes, Chief K. Uh that area is a little
bit of a a map anomaly. >> Oh, is it? >> Fifth Avenue Drive basically for mapping purposes serves as 6th Avenue. >> Okay. >> Which is why these addresses that are actually north of 6th Avenue have a 600 block address. Normally that would be
south, which the chief and I were talking about, it's going to affect things when we try to respond. We have to know business names and things like that. Um, but in looking at all the mapping and all the other local addresses, like Wawwa, for example, address is 701. So, it's south of that.
Um, I obviously have concerns about where cars are going to back up and turn on to and things like that, but that's a different story. >> If you look at this current survey, you'll see State Road 64 is 6th Avenue East. And to the north, you will see in between all those lines, Fifth Avenue
Drive East. That would be between the car wash and the current site. >> So, can I >> And it's You said it was a coffee one of those new coffee shops that are popping up everywhere. >> Okay. >> It's It would potentially be one of those two, correct? We currently own the
Starbucks as well, but we are trying to let the lease expire and leave. >> Okay. Well, that makes a makes people probably feel a little better that things will be off of that main, >> correct? >> So, it won't be too coffee shop. taking that into consideration with regards to
the buildup of traffic in the morning to Starbucks. >> So, will there be ingress from State Road 64 or will there be any >> exit only? >> Exit onto >> exit only from the site onto State Road
64, >> which right now you can get on and off there to get to the Starbucks. >> Yeah, but you can turn left. >> Yeah, >> you can only access Oh, I'm sorry. I take that back. Yeah, >> with regard to Starbucks, correct? It's only through 301 Manatee Avenue, Second
Avenue coming around onto the side road just >> Well, it's all un undeveloped property. It's correct. >> It's being developed currently right now. >> Yeah. So, that changed, but used to be able to drive from a lot of over grass and >> no longer no longer the the case.
[laughter] >> We have eliminated the homeless problem there as well. >> Yeah. Right. >> Are you done? I had vice more first. >> Oh, would that that answered my question, but I'll have comments, too. But that's why I raised it back up because I don't know if we're done with,
you know, go to Miss Barnaby. >> I'm still trying to figure How do people people turn off of Manatee Avenue heading east? I'm still trying to figure out how they get there. >> There's several different avenues. If
you're traveling on 301, you could take a right on State Road 64 and pull a left on Second Avenue and pull another left onto Fifth to pull in. Or you could continue on 301, turn a right on Fifth Avenue Drive and pull into there as well as come off Manatee Avenue down Second
going south currently. >> Okay. >> Pull into there's three different access points to that site from that particular. >> You got to remember the North South Second Street. >> Okay. Right. So that's one that you that's where you used to go and try to zigzag correct sometimes to get to KFC
>> and uh >> which KFC is >> and from my understanding I believe FDOT was planning on making second a one-way street and putting a potential light on Manatee Avenue and second from what I understand that's no longer that's not going to happen. No, >> that was something that when they were
talking about eliminating the left turn lane on First Street going north and then making people turn right and left and then left >> made things worse. >> There's too much stacking and that is DOT has backed away from that. [clears throat] No, I'm
>> you mentioned one entrance way would be if you were I guess heading north on first and then you turn right onto sixth a is that was that one of the >> you turn right off of >> off of >> 30141
turn left on make a left turn right on 64 take a left on the very first street which would be second which would bring you to the right of the building or should I say to the east of Okay. So, you're talking about First Street heading what? South or north? >> North.
>> Heading north. Okay. Wawa. >> Wawa's on the south. >> On Wawa's on the south. >> We're going to turn to go into KFC. You just keep going down to second and then turn left and then you can get into all that plaza. >> It's Well, >> it's >> KFC's on the corner,
>> right? But what I'm saying is if you turn like what you're talking about, I think is if you turn right on the sixth and you want to go into across, >> right? But you just turn right, go into KFC's driveway. Now you just go down to second, continue down to second and turn left and then you can access all that.
>> Okay. So I'm going to bring something up for you today. >> The visual part you can't we can't get. >> Okay. >> Does this help? >> Yeah. >> There we go. >> Yeah. >> So your access points to this property right here. Your entrance is where the
mouse is. You can come down sixth, take a left on second, make another left on fifth, pulling into here. >> You could also come up First Street, >> make a right on Fifth, pulling into here, as well as Manatee Avenue East. You can make a left going down Second
Street and make another right pulling up to the plaza and pulling in there as well. Okay. Three access points. >> That was it. I wasn't I was >> I think everybody's thinking of the property from Manatee Avenue to 6th and that was there. This is just the corner
the whole corner behind KFC. Yes, sir. >> So Fifth Avenue goes in between it. So when you pull out of the drive up of KFC, you go right onto Fifth. >> And the confusion is you have Fifth Avenue Drive East, >> right? >> And Fifth Avenue, which is Manatee. Right. >> Right. Yeah. >> And I wasn't thinking of where the
entrance was there on Fifth Avenue. I wasn't I was thinking there was also an interest on six. >> Yeah, >> the visual makes it a lot easier. >> Vice Mayor Moore I'm sorry, are you done miss? >> Yeah. >> Vice Mayor Moore, >> are we I don't have any other questions. I are we in discussion time.
>> Well, we're going to go to public hearing and then we'll get in discussion >> then I will hold my comment. >> Any other questions? >> All right. Thank you. >> So, um this time, Mr. Rutell public hearing >> unless staff's making a presentation.
has any more. >> She did. >> Where did she go? >> She did it. >> No more. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. >> All right. So, at this time, we'll open the public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone
wishing to speak? Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Vice Mayor Moore. Um, I have some concerns about uh what's before us. Um, as to the Starbucks and the potential purchase of
uh the KFC, Mr. Russell can correct me if I'm wrong, but our approval today will have no bearing on there's not going to be any commitment to what is happening with Starbucks or the KFC today. So, that's just I'm going to put that out there that we don't have that
guarantee if we do this today. Um I will note that um I have I have aspirations I guess you could say for this whole area as far as economic development goes. Um and automotive uses does not really uh
align with those uh visions. We have the hospital adjacent. There's the uh the property to the east of this parcel is um building more medical office buildings. Um it is a very very tight
space and to have any kind of cars stacking in this area in my opinion would be problematic and would move us away from we have the hospital and we have those apartments on the north uh west corner of um first and manatee a
and I think that the goal for this area is to encourage the pedestrian friendliness and the uh multimodal versus encouraging automotive uses. Um, so my thought is that I I I appreciate what
is being proposed on the other side of the parcel, the retail and the um and the potential for some commercial uh smaller business space there. I think that would be very suitable and would go along with what is um this area and what we're trying to maybe develop there. But
at this moment, um, really not having any guarantees, having some problems with parking and accessibility. Um, I'm struggling. >> Miss Coker. >> Yeah. Um I kind of um this kind of goes along with what I was saying earlier
about um being businessfriendly and he obviously thinks he's got a concept that's going to be of course we are concerned if things stack up um in the drive-thru, but we're just approving his ability to have a drive-thru here. And
um if you I I did drive over to the site and if you look, you've got KFC has a drive-thru, you've got Starbucks has a drive-thru, and you've got the car wash that's coming in to say now you don't want to have it. I mean, you've got Waw Was across there to to say that you want
this to be a pedestrian. Um, I just I don't know that that seems very realistic, but I think that we've got a business, jobs, we want I want to support it and uh you know, I'm in favor of it. >> Miss Coachman,
>> thank you. Right now though, I we've heard that there's a potential that you've already purchased KFC. >> No. >> No, you potentially correct >> and you already have purchased Starbucks. We've owned it for a long time. >> Okay. Okay. And you can bring another
coffee. Anyway, um can we can we ask what is potential for the other sites? >> We already know. >> I mean, what we already know KFC is
going to stay KFC. >> Okay. And Starbucks is going to stay Starbucks. >> And the car wash is being built. >> And the car wash, I know the car wash is in the middle. And you know Starbucks has a terrible problem with their >> right. I think we can't be dialoguing with him sitting out there. I'm sorry. I
didn't mean to that. We could bring him back up. One of the things I want to go back to our initial when the approval of all of this I think is important to remember. We put some stipulations or we ask for it that they would try to do something with the Starbucks drive-thru
from backing up on first. Um, if you just generally think, and I know we can't consider whatifs, >> but do you really see two coffee shops staying there, especially with the owner of it and the new all these ones that are building all over the city in the
county that are just little ones in parking lots now? And and another thing that that really is is concerning to me is that we even want to consider that being a walkable area. You know, with First Street, Manatee Avenue, 6th Avenue, you don't see people walking
across there. And I don't ever know unless we put a walkable bridge that that would that would ever happen. So to make this where you would actually bring the coffee shop off of the roadway and again we're not we can't make them say
you have to open this one and close Starbucks but if you're in the business world you really think that's going to happen it's going to bring it back and so I think this is actually making this area better and I sat through the whole Waw Was situation when that came in and
I don't see many people walking to Waw Was you know from a standpoint across other big roadways you don't see very and I drive there a lot and you know so I just think that this actually could make that corner better especially if
Starbucks decided to go away and he owns that property so um I got Vice Mayor Moore and then um Miss Coker >> I just I just to the point about bringing in businesses I want that too but I want the right mixture and and it's notable to me that the the people
that own the property to the piece are building what we want them to build there. They are building office medical office park buildings. That's what it's currently zoned for. That's what we are trying to encourage in this area. And I every time that we approve an automotive use in an area that is so tight and so
congested, um I think we're moving away from the from the goal of trying to revitalize this area. Um, we have, you know, hopes also of future FOT action in this area that could potentially be
beautifying the [clears throat] this area. And I and while I can't count on that either, I can hope that we can move towards alleviating the congestion, the the safety issues. Um, and I just don't
think that we get there with this. I want to encourage the businesses. I want to encourage the office parks. I I want to encourage all of that, but I think the continued uh one-offs of automotive uses is not conducive to what we hope this area will be. >> Well, when when say automotive uses as
well, it's not a car lot. It's it's it's a a drive-thru. There's a drive-thru right next to it right now that probably I would imagine >> in the afternoons would have the more traffic. The coffee shop would have the morning traffic more than anything.
Miss Goker. >> Well, I I just wanted to kind of comment. You had said you didn't see two coffee shop, but I actually do because I think anybody wanting to go and get their coffee on their way um you know, oh, they're backed up at Starbucks, I'll go over to Rifle or whatever it is or
vice versa. So, I think sometimes having that little concentration and having choices sometimes um maybe would make it because when you're driving, you're like, "Oh, I want to stop for coffee. Where should I stop? Well, my best chances are where there's two right there. So, I don't know. Um and
>> spread out the the backup. >> Yeah, exactly. >> It'll be too late. >> Attract it. But I I do think um you've already got um >> you've already got all those drive-thru theres. Um I I just don't see the the idea of
saying they have to be walkable. I think that we that the drive-throughs are there. that that that's kind of left the barn. >> All right, Miss Coachman, I >> I I'm not so stuck on the walkability, but but I have seen people from the apartments walk on the weekends, early
morning, Saturday or Sunday, but walk over to Starbucks, but other than that, no. So, but I'm more concerned about the the just the congestion, the the traffic, the the cars stacking whenever time of day. Um
it's just so tight in there and and we got to think about more than business. Uh what about um response time and abilities and so forth? Um if there's an emergency
um and and to your point, you're saying that if they see Starbucks is is busy, then I'll go to the other. Well, now they've got to cross over Manatee Avenue, go around the hospital. >> No, they'll be able. It's an open >> There's Okay, they're going to be able
to Okay, you if you see beforehand now, now a car wash is going to be there. So, are they going to be able to see that Starbucks is stacked up? Uh, >> we we'll ask the applicant. >> You can come up. Why don't you come up >> for for some response that you've heard
>> to answer several points? >> Just state your name. >> Abbid Soy from Bradon, Florida. >> Yeah. to answer several things. That is the busiest intersection in Manatee County. That corner >> that Starbucks is the busiest Starbucks
in the state of Florida with over 382,000 paying customers on an annual basis. >> I'm one of them. >> No. >> Okay. you have many access points to this particular site as well as your comments in regards to to make this
potentially a walkable site. Unless you eliminate 75% of the traffic, it is not possible. With regards to the medical spaces that you're talking about, medical facilities to the east of the hospital, there are three large buildings that are vacant that are all
medical buildings. Those buildings can be reconstituted to be medical sites and built up or recommissioned to do exactly what you're proposing. With regards to the stacking, you have a eight car stack in the drive-thru more
than Starbucks as well as that traffic is going to be off the main roads which would cause less congestion for waiting into a coffee shop on se on second and fifth. With regards to the police chief and the fire chief in regards to
actually getting to site, it would be easier for them, in my opinion, and they would be able to answer this better than I could, that if they were to pull their truck or their vehicles onto fifth or onto second, you would not hinder State Road 64 or the main first at all because
you would be off the main roads and they would be able to do what they need to do. Well, my question, my comment was for them to be able to do what they need to do. I wasn't really even thinking about them, you know, blocking.
>> It just it's strategically easier for them. >> Miss Barnaby, >> um, Chief Kramer, Chief Gear, have you weighed in on this? Do you have thoughts?
Okay. >> I'll say, you [snorts] know, from from the fire side of things, I mean, typically during uh any any building project, you know, we allow or we review the plans along with the building uh department planning and access for us is
considered um in that area. I don't I don't have any access concerns with access for us. Um I think he he's correct in uh uh in our response. So we can pull off the main road and uh be off on one of the side streets and be okay.
>> Chief Kramer, >> I mean, my concern would be for traffic um congestion if the Q lines, let's say they're on the public roads back up significantly. We used to run into that at at Starbucks a good bit. I don't think we do as much anymore because
they're able to bring them into the property a little bit more. Um I think that might be something we want to look at. I know that was a concern when uh the council approved uh the Chick-fil-A out west and they made a plan to basically put as many cars as possible >> running from the ice cream shop on 26th
Street. >> That's another one. That's another one. It's just popularity. >> So you're off fifth. So you're [cough] stacking. Even if you were full in the drive up, it wouldn't stack to sixth or correct. >> If we had 20 cars stack up, we would be on one of the main roads.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. Just >> 20 cars is quite a bit. >> Yeah. It depends on where those cars are, you know, coming from, >> where the 21st car is coming from and the 25th car. >> If you're stacking 20 cars, your business isn't doing very well to get the coffee out. [laughter] >> We're very popular.
>> Um, as much as I would, the only other concern I would have would be, uh, vehicles coming out >> onto Sixth Avenue, um, and turning the wrong way because you see it coming out of Chick-fil-A or I'm sorry, KFC and Waw Wa. Um, it always happens to be right
when I'm right there wondering why why are you doing that? >> Um, but exit, just so you know. >> Well, that that that helps significantly. That actually eliminates any concerns I have [clears throat] with lots of signage saying go that way.
>> I just want to say I'm glad you're bringing business. I mean, [laughter] I'm excited about that. >> Miss Barnaby, finish. >> Um, sorry. when staff was up, they didn't talk about any uh recommended stipulations.
So, would they would the staff like to share the stipulations with us? >> I mean, I have them here. I can read them if you want me to, but >> yeah, there there aren't specific stipulations. However, you're approving the site plan conceptually. Um and so we
do have written in there that the site plan um and elevation shall be reviewed through the formbbased code and during the site improvement uh permitting process the site plan shall be reviewed in compliance with the Florida fire and building codes and the city of Bradenton formbbased code and land use regulations
is applicable. And then third is the uh during the site improvement um permitting phase, the site plan shall be reviewed to confirm um that it reflects to safe and logical traffic circulation and pedestrian access. >> Thank you,
>> Mr. Perry. We'll go to Vice Mayor Moore further. >> Just to upon Robin, this has to go through public works for the site plan. Yes. And she and she just kind of highlighted what that criteria is. um as relates to ingress, egress, um radius
exit ramps and things like that that would prevent from turning the wrong way into streets that would be handled through the circulation of our traffic management section that would have to approve those. Um and and there's certainly some some fairly technical
nuances I think on this property because it's location because it's high volume traffic area and uh obviously emergency access and and and things of that. But that would be something that really public works traffic engineering would look at as it relates to circulation and
take that all into consideration. And you know how sometimes uh those things are are not always viewed by the developer in the most uh uh the cooperative manner, but we have them for reasons. And I'm sure that we would be very very um careful in what we allowed
to go in for traffic circulation as it relates to those ancillary adjacencies of of Fifth Fifth Avenue Drive and Second Street probably east. Um, right now I mean I go there pretty frequently and we know it's a bunch of vacant lots
with fairly interesting tree canopy that's long there. Um, there's been a lot of homeless people and encampments in that area and uh hopefully it'll it'll improve a lot of that. >> Hi, sorry if I may add. Um, I do want to point out that the site plan that was
submitted with the special use application does show the construction of a retaining wall with a 3.5 in fence on top on the western side. And that is what I referenced when I was discussing the special use criteria. So, if that's important to you all, um, then it might
need to go in as a stipulation. It might not be important, um, but it's just something I want to point out >> between KFC and the property. That is what they're showing on this proposed site plan that was originally submitted with the special use application. Um, and I mentioned it when I discussed that
they are challenged in meeting the landscape strip requirements and maybe that's not the best right >> solution, but it was shown on this. >> But looking at this right now, would you say that the top of this photo is north? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yep. So that's what that's I'm trying to
really get the design of this building because >> you were you were shown a diagram by the applicant that had north. >> Right. So the parking lot that's there does that back up to KFC? >> Um if people were parking appropriately
and you know front end in then the lights of the cars would be facing KFC. >> Right. That's what I'm saying. So the parking lot is between the property of KFC and that and you're saying there would be a wall there. That's what is proposed on the site plan that was already >> like just a fence some sort of divider
between the two properties. >> Right. >> Right. So when you're in this drive up to leave it, you would go into the park. So you'd go circulate around the building all the way around to get back where your cursor is there to go
to turn left onto 6th Avenue. If you wanted to go to Manatee Avenue, you'd have to turn right onto Fifth Avenue, then go left on Second to get back to Manatee Avenue. So, this isn't in the center of the property, but it's as close to the center of the property with
circulation stacking and more cars, where our place on 26th Street, you turn off and you're right in the driveoff off of 26th Street and they're taking their orders. And that's why the five cars stack. Five are in in the six cars in
the roadway. It would take a lot of cars to get to the roadway here. Not to Fifth Avenue, maybe drive east, but the circulating roads. I'm just trying to think. I'm I'm supportive of of bringing things that people are going to use. And we know coffee shops, if you say that
Starbucks, which is I don't know why it's changed, Chief Kramer, from what it used to be. You used to be able to see cars stacked up down First Street. and they've done a good job at changing that and that was part of what we really pushed if you get this property from the
previous that came in front of us that you would get the cars off Manatee Avenue and I haven't seen any on or excuse me first backing up >> and I don't know what they've done differently but it's been different >> I think most people >> right though they've learned how to not
stack up on the road and get their horn blown horn >> I do >> so um all right Vice Mayor Moore and on the wall. >> Um, I have a question about that wall, too. >> Okay. >> Why don't we let her get to the wall since she's >> I'm sorry. Just about the wall. >> What's the Okay, [clears throat] now I'm
a little bit confused because he says he's not doing a wall. >> Are you wanting him to do a wall? What's the reasoning to do the wall? What's I'm just trying to understand that. >> It's up to you all. I just wanted to correct the record that I >> was it was presented to >> discussing something that was shown on
the site plan as submitted. There have been other conversations with public works where he's shown conceptual plans and things like that, but this is the official site plan that was submitted with this application. Um, and it's the only thing close to a separation strip.
That's why I mentioned it because the landscape separation strip is technically one of the special use requirements. >> And is that important? I mean, what does that provide? I mean, >> well, usually if it's a like oftent times a special use is something that is thought that might have negative externalities on adjacent properties.
You know, you can imagine a drive-thru could have if it were next to like a single family home, that person probably would appreciate some landscaping and some buffering. >> Kentucky Fried Chicken, it's not as crucial problem. >> So, but I just want you to if you want
it, make sure you >> mention it because it was shown at some point. >> Okay. Yeah. That's all. That's all. I just was curious, >> Vice Mayor Moore. >> Um, well, I just want to clarify that we again, whatever is happening with Starbucks or KFC is not anything that we
are determining today and we can I cannot rely on that. Um, I also want to be clear that while we're talking about a coffee shop, we do not know for sure. There's no guarantee about that either. It could be anything that's going to be a drive-thru because that's what we're
giving them permission to do. Um, and so I just my reservation and it is a strong one is that this area is already a horrible traffic situation. And when we continually permit uses that stack
cars, it is my opinion that we are going to exacerbate a problem that is already a problem. And Manatee County already has a problem with pedestrian safety. I'm not saying that that I like want to perform miracles up here, but I do think
these are things that we should be considering. I want to encourage the businesses. I love the proposed I mean I think that the proposed variety retail to the uh to the south of the property is appropriate. Absolutely. Um it's just
the automotive uses in this particular area in my opinion is very problematic. >> All right. Any other questions or concerns? >> You want a motion? >> Uh, let's So, anything else from staff or the applicant?
>> Nope. >> All right. Councilwoman Coker. >> Uh, I'll make a motion to approve resolution 25-9 with staff's recommended stipulations. >> All right. Do we have a second?
>> Second. >> All right. We've had a lot of discussion. Anything else? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in ward three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> No. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One.
>> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Approved. Four to one. Councilwoman Moore voting no. Thank you. >> All right. We're going to take a five minute recess. >> Thank you. >> Um it is 10:12. We'll be back at 10:17.
Thank you. This is just a property. It's in R1 residential. It is a 3870 acre plot of land. It's right on Riverview Boulevard. And they want to put a dock across the street.
As you can see here, uh this is a subject land right on Riverview. And the dock that they want to build is directly across. So, they came in with a permit. Uh, city land use regulation 3331 specifies that all docks proposed across from rightaway
needs a special use permission prior to installation. There was an existing dock that they came in to replace and we didn't have any permits showing that it was approved in the first place. So, we had to take it in as though it was brand new, which is why we are here.
Uh, once again, it's R1 zoning future land use residential low. So everything's consistent with all the other uh residences and docks that you see in that area. The proposed request is for them to be allowed to have a dock.
Uh scheduled chart 3211 highlights the allowed uses within various land use regulation zoning districts. Dock is a permitted usage by right, but they just have to come to you to get the permission to be able to rebuild it. >> This is as you can see the land area. uh
they want to rebuild recommended stipulations. Prior docks that have come before planning council and then you guys have had these same stipulations on them. So we kept it consistent uh with the same four of the dock shall be kept in good working order
and condition to not degrade from the value of nearby properties. Lighting must be up to FD requirements. All other applicable state and federal permits to be obtained and any extension of utilities, staging equipment and material or access shall require
appropriate rideway permits. For consideration, you are encouraged to do what your heart decides and it was passed through planning commission with a unanimous approval vote. And we also
have someone here to speak on it. Applicant have any? Yes. Come forward. Please state your name and city for the residence. For the record, >> Carl Callahan, go to group 114 25th Street West, Brad Pay, Florida,
representing the applicant. Uh, three things. We agree with staff presentation and stipulations. We concur with the planning commission and request the approval of the special use. That document been there for 40 years and just requesting to be able to rebuild it. >> Any questions?
Hearing none, we'll go uh open the public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Chair will entertain a motion. >> Mr. Mayor.
>> Yes, ma'am. Miss Barnaby, >> I'd like to move for approval of the request with the stipulations uh amended by the planning commission and presented here today. >> Second by Mrs. Coachman. Any other discussion?
Hearing none, we'll start the vote for approval in ward four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Carries. Five to zero. Thank you, madame clerk. >> Item 7 C is the public hearing for resolution 252
regarding a group care facility. >> Welcome. >> Hello again. So what we have here as stated it is a group care facility to be built at 1512 Ballard Park Drive Brandon Wink city planner.
Uh this is a bigger plot. It is4590 acres and it is in the formbbased code area T40 general urban open. Uh as you can see on this map uh probably should have made it a little bit bigger. Uh we're talking about
subject parcel that is in yellow. The applicant owns the parcel right above it and highlighted over in black or outlined in black. And they are looking to do a concept that they'll explain more when they come up to where they're
trying to do this group care facility. As you can see uh by the site plan that was submitted as a conceptual site plan. Uh what they have proposed once again in the yellow is the subject parcel. What
they have existing is outlined in black and the formbbased code use table shows that group care facility is a use case not listed which is why they have to come before you for a special use permit. The applicant sol maternity homes is proposing the group care facility. The current land shown as the
existing in outlined in black has a 2,800 foot residential maternity home and an 800 foot office building. For the zoning map, it is in T40. And the future land use is UCBD, which
would give them the proper density to be able to try and do something similar to this. This is what the yellow outlined subject parcel looks like. It is currently undeveloped and you can see the existing buildings that they had in the uh parcel
they own to the north. For special use standards, uh all special uses shall be subject to regulations. Uh landscape separation strip of 10 ft in width shall be provided along all property lines. That's something that is noticeably not part of the proposal
because they're they own both the properties and because it is a use if the use is listed specific use standards that section must be met. Uh we have maternity solve maternity
homes here to be able to tell more about this. >> Okay. The applicant Good morning. >> Good morning. Um, thank you for having us. I'm Peggy Kerwin, executive director of Sol Maternity Homes. Do you need my
address? >> No, just town of residence. >> Oh, Bradon. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And I am happy to be here this morning on behalf of Solve Maternity Homes. We are a long-standing uh nonprofit group residential home for pregnant women and
parenting women um in our community. Uh we are entering our 50th year in 2026 and we have been located at the current property that um was displayed for you uh for 43 years. Um, so we are
petitioning and requesting special use permit for the property that is behind us at 1512 Ballard Park so that we can expand our services in the community to pregnant and parenting women and families and helping um these women to become better community members and good
parents. >> Any questions? Okay, thank you. staff. Anything more before we go to the public hearing? >> Only thing more from staff is that it was passed through planning commission with a unanimous approval vote.
>> Okay. Thank you. All right. At this time, we'll open the public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Anyone wishing to speak? Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Chair will entertain a motion. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, ma'am. Miss Coachman. Motion to
approve resolution 25102. >> Second. >> Second. I heard Mr. Shusler >> choir. >> All right. Any other discussion? Miss Barnaby. >> Mr. Mayor. I'm very familiar with this
organization as Helen Katar was a family friend. You all do amazing work and I'm happy to support this. Vice Mayor Moore. >> Um I also just wanted to note that uh in this particular instance, we have the
benefit of seeing them operate uh their nonprofit very successfully in this area. So it's very appropriate in my opinion >> um for to permit them to continue doing that work. >> Mr. Shusler, >> uh uh Mr. and Mrs. Kerwin, I having
driven by your facility every every day, I just wanted to thank you and commend you for the support and life-changing care that you give daily to perhaps our most vulnerable citizens in the community that for at risk uh pregnant
women and teens. Um, and I really look forward to this facility upgrade and you continuing your mission for uh and Salv's mission for the next hundred years. Thank you, >> Miss Coker. >> Well, I don't can't say it much better,
but yeah, I want to definitely give um the appropriate um kudos to Solve House. I think they they've been a great member of our community and probably been responsible for a lot of uh a lot of great stories that otherwise might not
have turned out so well. So, uh definitely in support of this. >> Great. All right, we I think we all agree on that part of it and the ditto with everything. So, um, hearing no more discussion, we'll start the vote and ward five to approve. >> Yes.
>> One, >> yes. >> Two, >> yes. >> Three, >> yes. >> Four, >> yes. >> Carries five to zero. Thank you very much, Madame Clerk. >> Item 70 is the first reading for ordinance 4065, an ordinance of the city of Bradenton,
Florida, amending Bradenton Land Use Regulations, Chapter 5.0, 0 Accessory uses structures and signage. Section 5.1.2.7 fences and hedges to modify allowable residential fence height and location to
provide for temporary fences to provide fences on vacant property and to clarify the limitations on retaining walls. Amending section 5.2.2.4 Four, fences and hedges to modify
allowable non-residential fence height and location to provide for temporary fences to provide for fences on vacant property and to clarify the limitation on limitations on retaining walls and amending chapter 10 definitions to
modify definitions related there too. providing for codification, providing for repeal of ordinances and conflict, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. And the second reading and public hearing is scheduled for January 14th.
>> Okay. >> Item 7E is the first reading for ordinance 4071. An ordinance of the city of Bradenton, Florida, amending chapter 18, article 9, section 18-241 of the code of ordinances to modify
certain provisions of the international property maintenance code providing for conflicts, providing for severability, providing for an effective date and that is also scheduled for January 14th. >> All right. Thank you. Moving on. Item 8A is the Dodto Heritage
Festival Grand Parade. [clears throat] >> Good morning. Please state your name and position for the record. >> I am Kelly Thomas and I'm the coordinator for the event review committee. The event re committee has had an opportunity to take a look at this application. [clears throat]
It is for the Grand Dotto Heritage Festival Grand Parade on April 25th, 2026. This is just the parade you're looking at today. There will be a block party later, but they're separate applications. So, it's just the parade today. Uh event review committee does
recommend approval as the application is presented. >> All right. And we do have the applicant here. Any questions of the applicant or >> I guess my only qu is any changes because obviously we love everything. So, we we're going to go forward with
what we have here, but uh we have some exciting changes I think are going to help um with uh the flow of traffic that's going to have uh we learned a lot. >> We're not going to have the 5K this year.
So, and we are considering the possibility of uh moving the stage right over the across the street facing downtown really bringing everybody back into the old main area. And uh but as we
have we have the permit today, we're ready to go and we're really excited about the opportunities and it was a good parade last year. We managed to get all 144 floats across at 8:00, >> which was amazing. So, we're going to
have a great parade again this year. Hope to have more participation. >> Good weather. >> Good weather. >> Yes. [laughter] >> But we thank everybody for your help [clears throat] with us. Mr. Shustler, did you have anything? >> No. >> Okay. >> Oh, sorry.
>> Did not. Chair will entertain a motion to approve the Dotto Heritage Festival Grand Parade as stated. >> I'll make a motion. >> All right, Miss Coker. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. Miss Coachman. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, ma'am. Miss Barnaby.
>> I just want to clarify with the city attorney. My husband is a member of the Dotto group. Now, he doesn't get any money from them. Matter of fact, it costs some money to do it. So, I'm assuming I can vote on this.
>> Um, I'm not aware of any reason you couldn't. >> Okay. >> All right. No further discussion. We'll start the vote in Ward one. >> Yes. >> Two, >> yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> And five. >> Yes. >> Carries five to zero. Madam, thank you
very much, Madame Clerk. Item 8B is request for expenditure of tree mitigation funds and guidance regarding the 2026 tree giveaways. >> Good morning. >> Hello. Good morning again. Um Jamie Shindolf with the planning department
and I have been sworn I don't know if that's important now. Um so I do have a revision um for this that I need to present here on the floor. I received a new invoice on um the 4th of December for the December giveaway and I have
copies of that for you all. >> Madame clerk and she'll pass them out. >> You want to put in >> Okay. >> Um so you can see it's uh well hopefully you can see. I'm not sure. Um but it went up just slightly. Um, the December
one went up to $5,296.69, bringing the total for all the months to $14,87. Oh, >> and that comes out of the tree fund. >> Yes. So, this is a request um for expenditures from the tree fund uh for
these Wow. for these fall giveaways. um two of which have taken place and one of which is coming up um the Saturday after Christmas. >> Any questions? >> Um Miss Barnaby.
>> Um Miss Underwolf, um the balance in the tree mitigation fund, are you aware of what that balance is? Um, as of September 30th when we requested it, um, for our Tree City USA designation, it was $476,566.82.
>> So, we have the funds to cover this out of the tree fund. >> Yes, our tree fund is >> healthy. >> Healthy. Yes. >> Growing trees. >> Growing. Um, so with these approving these three invoices for 2025 and then
will we do a second motion to approve going forward in 26? >> Yeah. So, as far as 2026 goes, um, the tree board was hoping to get some guidance from y'all as to what you want to see moving forward. Um, they were doing these, usually they do maybe one or two giveaways a year, but with the
hurricanes they stepped it up. Um, but it is a lot of work of course for them to be out there once a month. So kind of what if you all have any feedback um if you would like to approve some funding for next year that would be >> So my question would be [laughter] since
we aren't the agent doing it it's keep manity beautiful and we just basically give them funding what does keep manity beautiful think that we need to do >> excitingly we have a representative and they're also the chair of our tree board so I will invite her up
>> so [snorts] and my question would would relate to that would be is there enough? I mean, is there a up to amount you'd like us to see? You know, obviously we have over almost a half a million dollars or close to over 400,000. I
don't think that should be sitting in the bank. I think that should be growing trees, >> which doesn't help us on Palm Causeway, but >> um I again, Jennifer Hoffman, keep manity beautiful. Um, I'll go through this as quickly as I
can. Uh, the reason this was revised is, uh, we did an invoice based on what they could provide. And what we do is we, um, get back with them on what trees went well the month before, and that's why it
was revised. He had a couple that didn't do so well, so we replace them with others that we know are popular. Uh, so we always try and have things out there that that the people want. Um, that being said, we average
just over $5,000 uh per month giving 200 trees away the last Saturday of every month. Um, I would like all of you to know, I'm sure you know this already, but restating it,
um, we do not make any money on this. every dollar goes straight to the trees. We have volunteers and my staff go out as well as members of the board when they can, the the Bradenton tree board, uh, to populate it. So, I just want you
to know that it's 100% going where it's supposed to go, which is trees to backyards. Um, so I am happy to continue doing it. Um the uh realize Bradenton Farmers Market loves
having us. They've designated a street for us at this point so everybody knows exactly where to go on the last Saturday to come get your trees. Um we're happy to continue doing it. If you would like me to not have to come to you every
couple of months if you would do a blanket up to $6,000 per month, we won't use that. But that would cover whatever the variance is and give you the opportunity to do an entire year's worth.
>> Right. So obviously at the market they're open eight months. >> Okay. So there you go. >> So do you do you feel that it will sometime some way kind of peter out if you did it every month or would every other month
be a better way to do it? I I'm just trying to think. I know people love it when you're walking around the market with the trees, but sometimes things will get a little bit too much. And is there better months for people? >> Hasn't petered out yet. I will say this
though, if you do the up to amount, that allows us to pull back to 150 trees or 100 trees if we see that happen without having to come back to you. >> And then again, I >> sense I mean, I I'm happy to >> Yeah. And I I'll get to Miss Coker in a
moment, but um I don't know if I'm comfortable giving up to $48,000 out of the tree fund because it'll start to deplete it a little quicker then. >> I'm just saying I I think that might be a little much. That's just my opinion. >> No, no, no. Absolutely. But is there like up to
>> do you want to go 25 or 30,000 and then re-evaluate when it comes back again? Isn't June? >> Let me hear it, Miss Coker. What do you think? >> Something like that. Oh, my com my comment was going to be more of a suggestion as someone who has not had a lot of luck with her trees [laughter]
that maybe you could I would be willing to pay someone to come and help me put it in because maybe I don't do it right. Um it might be a way for you to make money. But um anyhow, that was that's what my card was about. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I [laughter] I just I would feel more
comfortable. And then you can see if we did like up to the season 25 or 30,000 this year, you know, where then you could you would say this we certain month you might do 2,000, next month you might do 6,000. But but I this is I'm
trying to think of logistical of how you know because we want the trees out and I do believe that we don't need to be sitting on 400 and some thousand dollars unless we have a plan and I know Mr. Williams and I have talked about spending some of that money, but there's so many restrictions how you spend it to
make our city look better as well. And we've got Manatee Avenue and >> you know, 6th Avenue and the trees. >> What about time of year of planting some of these trees? I mean, if you get into the really hard >> cold into uh consideration, we only use
uh native and adaptive trees. So once they're established, you ought to be able to leave them alone. [laughter] >> Sorry. >> But that being said, uh there are trees that we only give away at certain times
of year uh based on when is a good time to plant them. >> Vice Mayor Moore. >> Well, I I'm ready to make a motion, but if Miss Moore has questions, >> I was just gonna actually to that point. Um, I know we lost quite a few trees in the hurricanes in
>> We lost 30% of our canopy. >> Yeah. So, do we need I mean, I I kind of like the suggestion because perhaps we need to talk to Mr. Williams about also spending those funds on replacing what we lost in the hurricanes. I want to make sure that we have that as well. I
love the giveaways though, too. So, maybe through I forget when when um when we stopped for the summer with the market >> in May. through May. >> So we may in reality >> do we have through this season you know and because we've already got done
October, November, December. So >> correct >> you've got now five months. Do you feel that doing five events is the right time to do it? >> Yes. Because this is the growing time of year. >> Right. So if you said 5 time 5 is 25,000
and and then because again then it goes October goes to our new budget year >> even though this isn't a little different but I would feel comfortable doing it through this season of the market up to 25,000. But Miss Barnaby you had a motion.
>> May I request to 30 just in case there's little ups and downs and I won't use the whole 30. I promise. >> Miss Barnaby. Well, I was looking at making a motion that that we support the tree giveaway through
the rest of the public market, which I believe would take us to May. Um, and then look at what that when we're in our budgeting cycle again, looking at what that means >> and getting it on the cycle. Right. >> So, are you saying up to 30,000?
>> That that would be my motion. >> Yes. Thank you. >> I would second that. >> All right. So, we have a motion to approve the tree giveaways for 26 through the May through the >> May. Wait. >> Oh, >> I I see. >> Hello. I'm sorry. I just wanted to
mention and Jennifer um you may is there an intention to do a special giveaway for Earth Arbor Day >> in the 250th year. Yeah. >> Uh yes, there is. But that will be a different request because that won't be through you. That will be through Keep Manity Beautiful. So that will come in
front of you before April. >> Okay. Great. >> All right. >> All right. >> So we have a motion for >> May. Mayor, just one more question. Yes. >> Do we have any requests for the city for some of our construction projects to use >> the tree board for?
>> Uh should they come through us? Yes. Have they come through us? No. But Ross works with us. >> I knowific that's kind of what I'm asking. Yes. And I I know with the new police station some other things there might be >> we'd love to get involved with that because we have arborists, we have uh
forest service, we have all kinds of people very very interested in what the city does with its canopy. So anything you want to bring in front of the board, we're happy to evenformationally hear about what the city is doing on
their projects. >> Excellent. You guys assist us with some of those trees obviously. >> Oh, we do. Yeah, that's what I thought was important for the for the public to hear >> public to know. >> All right. So, we had a motion by Miss Barnaby and the second was by Miss Coachman. >> All right. For approving up to 30,000
going through the market in May of 2026. All right. Hearing no further discussion, we'll start the vote in W two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Approved five to zero. Thank you. >> Thank you everyone. All right.
>> Mr. Perry, >> sorry. I need I need a clarification. Does that include the request that was before you for the fall >> pay those invoices pay? >> Oh, yeah. To pay those invoices. >> We didn't do that. >> Okay. So, so we do need the motion. So, separate motion. That was the first
motion for 26. I'm sorry. Prove it. You're right. [laughter] >> I'll be happy to make the motion that we pay the tree invoices as presented to us today >> for the for 2025. >> For 2025. Yes. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second, Miss Coker.
>> All right. Hearing no further discussion, start the vote in ward three. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Carries four to zero with Miss Moore out of the room. Thank you. >> Thank you. Yeah, we kind of got ahead of it.
>> Yeah, we got excited. We just >> So now, Community Redevelopment Agency Shuffle Board Court. Miss Madame Clerk, I'm sorry. >> Mr. Mayor, I'd just like to remind you that there is a time certain meeting. >> Thank you. >> Yep. So, you have 14 minutes.
>> Less than that. Mr. Mayor, City Council, Jeff Burton, Community Redevelopment Agency. >> If you don't speak in that microphone, >> softspoken, >> it is uh >> you know better. >> It is discriminatory against tall people. Um,
so, uh, I'm just here to, uh, give you an update on the sale of property. This, the city, uh, asked the CRA to represent it in the sale of 1403 1525 Ballard Park Drive in 9007 at 15th Street West in
accordance with Florida statute 1633 380, the disposal of property in a community redevelopment area. Um it was the land was added to the surplus list in uh August and then right after that the CRA was given the
authority to represent the city in its redevelopment. Uh the sale of land will not affect the current contract that the city has uh for the property. Um, we want to make that clear that that that's
between the city and uh the folks that are using the property and this will go work uh parallel to that and will work in conjunction with that and will have no effect on that contract. Um, and also just to remind you that the
city currently generates, since it is city- owned property, it is off the tax role, it generates $1 a year to the city in value in a in the form of the lease. And [clears throat] the CRA provided analysis to you for every $10 million
spent by the um private sector once the property is redeveloped. And we estimate approximately a $30 million project on the site. The city itself and the county over the lifespan of the CRA will see about
$180,000 and that's in taxes and 5% retainer from the CRA's increment revenue. And the CRA will net generate uh roughly, and I have it right here,
$2.8 8 million over its lifespan. So, you can see that this property in the downtown is a viable economic piece. Um, we're looking to do mixed used housing to vary a little bit away from what the
city has done in the past with 100% workforce or 100% affordable. Uh that is a way to do it, but um we feel a much better way to do it is to have more of a mixed market, mixed income, and even a mixed use. If if if that works out at
the site, uh our next step is to we had one applicant uh in the process. We followed state statutes. Uh we will begin to negotiate with that applicant. Uh they have done work in the city before. And
just so you know, since the city owns the property, the sale of the land will come back to the city for approval. Uh the CRA is just representing the city. We do not have the authority to sell your land. So, uh that's up to the mayor
and the city council to determine if the deal is a good deal or not. We will also bring back to you a costbenefit analysis showing you the the the estimated benefit to the city, the CRA, and the county. and we can even throw in the
school board um to show you what value this land will bring economically and to the tax base. So um just wanted to bring this forward, let you know that we are we have finished this part of the the sale piece and that we are moving
forward in the negotiations. So um um don't expect any questions, but if you have them, I'm willing to answer them. Just an update to keep moving forward on where we are. >> All right. Thank you. Um Mr. Perry, >> try to get >> Thank you, Mayor.
>> Couple of the other things done. >> Yeah. Emergency procurement report. >> Yep. >> I'll pull that up. Basically, we I'm required to submit to you um any sort of emergency purchases that were approved by myself pursuant to policy. And for this particular period, um they need to
be reported at the next regularly scheduled council meeting. I have two to report. You may be familiar with the incident that happened down 26th Street West where we had a water mane uh break. I believe it was back in September. I was actually out there. We had to um we
had to enlist um contract um support as it relates to the repair itself. It was Woodruff and Sun. Um it this this expenditure of $261,972 was within the estimated range. When they actually looked at the project on their estimation the day of and there at
the day the days after um they had to basically do fairly significant underground um pipe excavation fitting curb inlets there um for storm drain um asphalt repair and labor cost. And so that is the first
item and we received that invoice I want to say on 111925 I believe it's been paid. The second item basically was for a water treatment plant transfer pump that was an emergency repair. It was deemed critical and necessary to include
a water treatment and distribution system and continuity of operations there. And uh that was certified by our engineering staff, engineer PE Christopher Eckles. And I went ahead and approved that for a transfer pump in the amount of $93,450,000.
>> All right. Thank you. Any questions? Seeing none, we're going to take a recess till 11:00 when we come back with our time certain um Ironwood water main assessment. Thank you. Okay.
There. bring the meeting back to order here at 11. Mr. Williams. Thank you, Mayor. Lance Williams, chief operating officer for the city. So, um, obviously the meeting is about the, uh, Ironwood water mane replacement. Um, I'm
going to do a a kind of a a quick historical presentation just to make sure that everybody understands where we started officially um, to where we are today and then um, some of the decisions that that we need to make today. Um, we
do have representatives um, from the property management company, their Ironwoods attorney. Um, we have Julie Santa Maria here from our financial advisor group uh with Kim K Clayback here who's been a part of it from from what I understand from the inception. So
if if we have questions, we certainly have the right people uh you know in the room to be able to answer them. Um so the first the first side is is basically the history. So back in September of 14th of 2022 um in a council meeting,
Mr. Mlen, who was a former public works director, presented to city council um that the Iron Ironwood Community Association, otherwise known as ICA, um inquired about talk the city taking over the operation and maintenance of their currently private and aging water system. Um the ICA's attorney, Mr.
Thompson, explained that ICA does not have the expertise to properly maintain the current water system. And then there was a motion to authorize administration through public works to engage in the engineering firm um Jones Edmunds. Yes, that should be you. Uh for design
pre-construction construction engineering services and to obtain sufficient guarantees to ensure reimbursement to the city for payments made on behalf of Ironwood Pine Brook Water System Improvement Project and the motion passed 5 to zero. So those are verbatim from the minutes of uh of that
specific meeting. So uh with that uh moving forward in January 18th of 2023 uh there was another council meeting that we had a reimbursement agreement for the Ironwood Community Association water main replacement project was presented as a
consent agenda item and was approved 5 to zero. Um to date all of the agreed reimbursements have been collected. Um there is another stipulation in that reimbursement that we'll have to uh finalize in our in our financing uh if
we do decide to move forward. But uh for the engineering services, we have been reimbursed to those services to date. Uh January 30th of 2023, the notice to proceed was was issued by Mr. Mlen to
Jones Edmonds um to to begin the design on the water system. Um I know you can't really see this on the screen, so each council member actually has a copy of uh the uh financial example. Um, so in November
11th, 2023, uh, we initiated the services of the city's financial advisor, PFM, uh, Financial Advisors LLC. Um, our representative is Julie Santa Maria, uh, to provide a preliminary assessment example. Um, this is actually an updated version of that
example. U, we we added a 10-year option. So, there's a 10 year, a 15ear, and a 20-year option to um what you have in front of you today. >> Mr. Williams, I'm going to just get to while we're talking about the 10-year option. Um, because we were in
Tallahassee doing some stuff and I got an angry phone call from a or actually an email and I reached out to the person and I did ask in that meeting with the the group that was there that day before that that we add a tenure. Not saying
that I was forcing a tenure, but we were just adding it. And once I talked to that angry resident there, he realized that it, you know, I told him that it wasn't that I thought of it, but maybe there was an opportunity if it would be better because ripping off the band-aid
in 10, 15 or 20 years, it might be easier for the future. But I obviously am very conscious of the cost it would add per year of a 10ear. So it wasn't that I was advocating for that. I just wanted to give options where it could
actually make it better. And I'll go into why I think some options are better. >> More options are better because of what I'm living through where I live today with the same type of thing that's on the tax bill.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. And moving on. So July of uh July 3rd of 2024, um we had 100% design was submitted by Jones Edmund. um our engineering staff reviewed the final design. So at that point we were we were accepting the
design by uh the engineering firm. I put in a little clause in there about the hurricane season because when you see the next date there is a a rather large time gap and it's you know hurricanes come we switch our priorities and that's the reason so um just so our next date
is April 17th of 2025 um project advertisement. So after an extensive review by city engineering um ICA and the city attorney, the water main replacement project was actually sent out for an invitation to bid through our purchasing uh department.
May 23rd to 27 of 2025, the bid opening and results were provided to Jones Edmunds. July 3rd, Jones Edmonds [clears throat] basically reviewed the the bid openings and provided a bid evaluation letter. uh July 7th, 2025, letter of recommendation
was provided to the city attorney and a uh coming up a little closer today. So September 30th, 2025, meeting with with a city of Braden. So city administration met with ICA property manager association president attorney and an
attorney to discuss preliminary city requirements. So this is kind of a crucial point in in in this process. Um, we wanted to ensure that each property owner within the A community fully understood the historical background and the status of their currently privately
owned and aged drinking system water system and the complexity of the water replacement project because this isn't an easy task um along with their financial responsibility and obligation for the project and to understand that the A board of directors asked the city
of Bradon to design, construct and construct the new drinking water system as well as provide the operations and maintenance afterwards. So when we if if this moves forward and gets approved, we will actually replace the system and then at that point we
will the city will own the water distribution system, but it will be brought up to the city standards. >> Mr. Williams, that system was originally put in by the developer, >> correct? >> And it's been a private system >> ever since. And for us to be able to
take it over, it has to be brought up to our standards to take it over. >> Absolutely. >> And that's a policy that I think the city has had certainly had it when I was on the council before dealing with water systems, dealing with roadways.
Um if if someone has something that was done privately by a developer and wants the city to take it over, >> they have the responsibility to bring it up to our standards and then we have the the opportunity to accept it. >> To accept it that you are correct
>> and then to maintain it from there forward. >> From there forward correct. Yep. Absolutely. >> Mayor I just want to comment on that a little bit. Um the current composition it's a water distribution system really and the current composition is asphalt concrete which is not a very desirable. It's a deteriorating type of product and
and we can't replace it with with asphalt concrete any any further. And so it's both um you know kind of taking it out of the aged composition of the system as well as improving the system with the proper sizing and composition of materials and valves and things like
that. Ultimately, we will maintain and operate it. Currently, if a I if that system fails, as I'm sure it has over the years, the uh the associations, the master associations responsible for that. And when you call up a contractor to fix it, they don't like working on
those types of old aged um defective composition systems. And so, moving forward, you know, we would have the responsibility for that. how that's paid for is basically across the board of our system through our our rate for selling the water, the maintenance and operations of the system.
>> Well, I think one of the most important things and and we may and this is where [clears throat] I've asked from when I met several years ago as the mayor talked about it as a council person for a lot of years when I was war two council. I know Miss Barnaby's had many conversations about
it. It's about perfecting the record, per se, because we've had people that are upset with us because we're not taking care of their water system because it's they think the city owns it. Well, right now, all we do is supply it to the backflow and then it goes into their own distribution system. That
distribution system is broke now. And when millions of gallons filled up the lakes and nobody knew it was filling up the lakes years ago, which caused problems because their ponds or lakes were too full and it was costing them all money because they all divide up the money. It's more about my opinion of
perfecting it. So somebody comes in 10 years from now and says, "Why am I paying this money? I just bought this. The city shouldn't charge me." that we can say no, this was the associations coming to us to help fix it because they can't get somebody to fix it. They
couldn't get people to fix things when they were broke because and when you have 10 whatever the master boards are the master board with all the other associations and it's difficult where I think it's a great thing that we come up with it but as Miss Barnaby said we have
to get it in working condition up to our standards. um the roads were the same way in there a lot of years ago that the city didn't own the roads originally and then we took them over and the reason they haven't been paved because we've been waiting for this and um one of the
gentlemen in the room there that I don't think's on the board anymore we met during COVID so COVID slowed it then now the hurricane slowed it but I think we're at a point where we just want it to be on the record that this is a good deed by all of everybody working to
We're trying to work with it, >> but we all know what happens to good deeds. Usually they don't go unpunished. So, but if we have a perfection on the record, if this council decides to approve it, then it's there, but there is going to be a cost assessed to every
home property that's there. And then it's how do you want to do it? And one thing that we've talked about constantly, whatever decides 10, 15, or 20 years and is there the payoff, somebody can just say, "I don't want to pay it. I just want to because it will,
if they don't have that on their tax role, it may make their property more valuable at the moment." But and it will have to be disclosed as Councilwoman Coker and Vice Mayor Moore talk about when you're selling. It should have already been being disclosed, but a lot of people those things don't get
disclosed, but they should be disclosed when somebody new buys what this is and why it is because that's the law if there's something that's unique. Um, so again, it's just more, you know, I just felt it was important from a lot of things I've been through over the years
and, you know, I'm not, my wife doesn't allow me to be on an HOA board anymore because uh, that's harder than being mayor. But we we joke about it. But no, you know me, I I'll do anything. But but in the what I was going to say from my standpoint is I live in River Dance.
River Dance was on the Sand Pile. The Sand Pile was leased to a company. When River Dance was built for the remainder of the lease, every River Dance residence pays that lease payment now for the rest of basically
our lives living at Riverdance. Right now it's about $350 a year. It goes up by the CPI or whatever all the is and it's gone up three%. So every year [clears throat] now that I live in that building and the position I'm in, I have to explain it >> be at the end of you know when the tax
bills come and you know I'm not on the board but with the position I'm in even to some of the same people over and over again but when they purchased it was already there. So that's basically what it is. It's an assessed part on the tax bill from the city of Bradenton. That's
basically what this is going to be. The good thing for Ironwood is it's going to end one day, but it's not going to end for whatever term they decide. >> Exactly. >> So, that's just a synopsis. I don't know if there's any else anything else. I mean, >> question. >> Yes, ma'am.
>> I I apologize. Um, what year were these places built? >> I want early7s around 1971. It started it started in the >> It started in the late60s. They started moving the property and things out there
and then um Ironwood was built and then Pinebrook was built after Ironwood was built. >> Okay. Um not to muddy the waters, no pun intended. [laughter] >> Um what about the wastewater? Is that on a private system as well?
>> No, I believe the wastewater is that correct >> as a cities. It's so it's already >> operation maintenance. >> I'm just thinking as we're doing the plumbing because of all of [clears throat] the old waste water. I I just didn't know where we were with all that. >> I think there's one more thing to point
out is that this water distribution system will bring the potable water, the drinking water to the meters or the backflow preventers into the buildings themselves. That this project does not address that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Those are separate individual
units. And so it's the distribution. And I did misspeak. I think I said asphalt concrete. It's actually >> asbestos. >> I think one of the things now that's confusing sometimes too is there's one master meter >> at at the backflow for all of the HOAs
and they just split it up. Right. >> So I've had people complain to me, >> I'm only there three [clears throat] months a year. Why do I have to pay the same thing when somebody lives there 12 months a year? So that's not that's going to change to building wise because each building now will get their own.
>> So if one building doesn't have anybody living in it, it's a hundred bucks. The other building has everybody living in it, it's a thousand, it's divided amongst their owners. And and so I I again, we're still going to get a lot of questions. I think two, four, five years from now when that new resident moves in
and says, "Well, why is the city charging me for something I should have already had?" >> I just want the record perfected when none of us are sitting here. Um, but good. It will sunset whatever they decide timewise. So, >> and it's an easy reference, >> right? It's an easy reference, but you
know how that goes in politics. >> So, all right. So, do we I I've had a lot more time at this, but >> I think he might have a few more. >> Oh, you're not finished. Okay. >> I thought your history was >> can be done. I mean, I don't need to keep going. [laughter] >> I'm curious to see what else he wants to
say. >> Right. No one went ahead. So, >> all right. Real quick. So September 30th meeting with ICA. So just some of the things that we required them to do to ensure that we perfected the record again and to ensure that each homeowner knew exactly what was happening and and
the why behind it. Um so the master association was to provide each homeowner anformational letter detailing the historical background description dates of the process uh to procure the services cost of design and construction and the owner financial responsibility associated with the total project. Um
they did that. We approved the letter. It was done u completed on October 3rd. Uh certification by each association president. There are 15 of them. Um and that certification was completed through a
notorized affidavit by each president or representative of that particular association. Um, so they basically are saying, "Yes, we provided each homeowner with thisformational letter that gave the historical background, the financing, the responsibilities, and and kind of
the why that we were doing. >> How many total homeowners are there that this will affect?" >> 647 >> 647. So, and again, I see that we had approximately 40 to 50 property owners
>> there. So that's why I I want more information out than less because even though every one of them probably got the letter, they won't complain until they get the first tax bill. And well, why is this? So we've at least tried.
we've done because 50 representatives of 600 is not a very good uh and you know unless they disagreed with it but but we know that and again I'm just trying to more information on the record is better long term for probably not even us as much but
>> the next group >> and will those certified letters um certified mail >> certified mail correct >> yeah to the property owner of record with the HOA >> correct >> yep >> yes sir >> all right So this is kind of the finale.
Uh so our next steps, you know, one, we have to determine if city council would like to um have additional actions by the ICA Masters Association or the property management prior to the project commencement. Um I think, you know, we've pretty much vetted that out as
much as we possibly can. um determine at some point a a payback period and this this isn't in order of what needs to happen but uh but we have to determine a payback period. Um one the assessment can be paid in one lump sum up front. >> It can be if they want to.
>> Yes, sir. >> It doesn't affect anything else. Correct. Other than they're paid off. No assessment on that property. >> Yep. >> Yeah. So the there's a the total assessments >> 50 roughly $5,700. If somebody wants to write a check for that and pay that off without going through the financing
piece, they are able to do that. Um secondly, it can also be paid off early. There's no prepayment penalty. Obviously, they do a uh you know proretic kind of amount with the with the uh principal and then with the interest, but they can pay it off early
without without any penalty. So, if we have a situation where a homeowner is selling their property and this and the buyer says, "Hey, you need to pay this off before I buy it." That can all be worked out uh through the closing. So, um then finally, city council approval or denial of the A water main
replacement project to include maintenance and operation after the replacement project is completed. So if we decide if council does decide to move forward and picks the term of which they'd like to uh to see the financing, we will actually administration will
come back along with public works with specific financing discussions a little more detail and then we'll have uh Miss Sanoria Miss Santa Maria talk a little bit more detail as to how this will work as far as the assessment goes and timing and so forth.
And that is all I have. So, questions to Mr. Williams and I'm going to do something that I just kind of thought of now, but um that Yes, ma'am. It >> is there any benefit to, you know, as
far as the 20-year assessment, was there would there be any benefit to looking at a longer period of time to make that annual amount less? Um, and maybe Julie can speak to I mean we could I don't know how far we can extend it out, but that really is a
decision of how far do you want to extend the city essentially. Okay, because we're paying for so whether we determine and again this is where the fin the specifics of the finance financing will come in, >> whether we whether we pay it out of a reserve, whether we go out to a bank and
get get a loan to do it. Um it really kind of determines what we can get one and then two how far does council want to extend uh you know the term the repayment period for uh you know the city >> pay a lot more obviously if you go farther out >> right yeah >> but I didn't know if they you know if
there's a you know affordability component >> they came up with 15 to 20 I 10 we added 10 >> I asked to add to 10 not to do it but to give Right as an option Yep. All right. Any other questions for me?
>> I just think it's important, mayor, to to point out that really what's happening here is the assessment is being through the legal authority of the city. That that's the only people that can really levy. The term is levy an assessment. We levy that assessment on
the property owner through the tax collector basically. And so it's on everybody's tax bill, but we're levying it at the request of the residents. that that's what has to be on this record right now. We are not just coming up saying that we're going away from I don't know septic systems and and things
like that and we're going to levy a special assessment. This is being levied at the request of the residents and the homeowners of of that area. if they don't want to do it, um what the option would be to continue with an age system
to pay for the cost associated with the maintenance and operation and repair going forward. And I would imagine that they could also look at trying to get a private entity to do this whole financing, but we under the impression that they wouldn't take it on without
the guarantee of repayment because of default and things like that. here the re the recourse is basically a tax lean. If you don't pay your tax property tax bill, you get a tax lean. >> Yeah. And the actual project I, you
know, really kind of failed to mention in the presentation, the actual construction piece of this project is $3.5 million to do the replacement >> with significant es escalation as as estimated. >> Right. >> Yep. So, and also though, one of the
things that that that neighborhood has wanted obviously is repaving of the roads. We've been holding off on that. So, they'll get the water system and then on top of that, >> get the roads repaved, but there was no reason to go repave the roads two or three years ago and then do this. So,
it's been a little bit of, you know, chicken and an egg. Let's get it done first and then do it. There's been other things going on with some wastewater lines and things that we fixed. Mhm. >> So that has been seen and done >> and I believe the construction >> storm water also. >> I believe the construction technique
contemplates open cut. >> Yes. >> Opposed to HDD which is horizontal directional drilling where it goes underground through boring of the underground and when you go open cut you obviously have to repave the road. So it's nice that you also get the the roads as you pointed out. >> Yep.
>> All right. So any other questions? Any uh comments by the HOAs? any uh >> Molly >> Molly's coming up >> and if you could ask her who is here so you get that on the record who is here
for the assessment general things with it. >> Yeah. So this this is Molly and I'm hopefully I don't miss it. Oh, there you go. Tree war and she's a with the property management company. Uh Mr. Stephen Steven Thompson is their attorney who's here as well and Julie
Santa Maria is with PFM who's our financial adviserss for the >> and I also see in the back of the room Molly some of the folks that I'm assuming are probably members of the master association. Yes, we have u if everyone >> you can talk into the microphone a little bit >> and
>> we have representatives from all the >> we have representatives from almost all the individual condominium associations um here the board presidents and representatives >> and there's 15 separate associations I believe >> 15 associations
and uh 10 of [clears throat] 15 are represented with with the and the rest of them are board members So, >> and these are the individuals that signed the certifications that they reached out to all the members of their particular homeowners association that they provided the certified letter that
you held the annual meeting and things of that nature. Right. >> All the signed receipts. [laughter] >> Just perfecting the record. >> Thank you. Do you have any Has it sounded good what we've done and said? >> It has. If you if you don't mind, I'm going to kind of repeat a lot of this in my own words.
>> So, good morning. Um, my name is Molly Treeward and I've been the association manager for Ironwood Community Association for the past six and a half years. Since before my tenure tenure, the Ironwood Community Association has been working with the city to modernize
the now 50 plus year old asbestos concrete pipe potable water system. With me today are the association attorney Stephen Thompson. I don't know where he was. And um there are 17 board member
representatives in support of this project with me. Also the overall objective is to have a modern system designed and constructed to meet the standards established by the city to take over the potable water system. This project project needs to be done as the
Ironwood Community Association board is a group of volunteers that have little experience with the upkeep of a community water system. A break in this water system would be a serious health issue. Pottable water systems in most communities are usually
run and maintained by the county or municipality. The fear that I have is if this system fails, there are 644 owners who are mainly retirees who will be without without a water system. the with the
system being as it is and contractors [clears throat] to fix the system not available at a local level. This could make the repairs less than timely causing great hardship and possible health issues. The association members met and there
has been support of this project by all the members voting starting in 19 uh or 19 2021 and of course the city in 2022 approving this in October. A large group of owners and representatives participated in a meeting for this
project and are in support of this project without any known objections. The city officials have been working with the association volunteers and engineers to design the project with the association paying over 144,000 for the
cost of that design and the project has become a 3.7 million plus project. The city officials are working on helping the community to finance the project. All the owners have been notified by certified mail or hand delivery with receipt that they will be taxed on a
yearly basis to pay for this system. This was also established as a request to proceed with the project by the city. Notorized affidavit attesting to this have been presented to the city by all association member representatives. The
Ironwood Community Association humbly asks that the city's continued support by approving the 20-year financing so the engineers and construction workers can get to work without delay. >> Any questions?
>> Yeah, Miss Tree Warie. Um, so what you what your group is asking is for us to consider the 20-year assessment. >> Yes. >> Okay. Our community, just so you'll know, is a is a retirement community and a large
portion of our community is on fixed incomes. And also, for example, just in my building on my floor, f four of the eight of us are widowed women. So, we're on fi fixed most of them are on fixed
income. So, that's just an example of what our community. >> Okay. And mayor, if if I could just >> Miss Coker had a question quick. So, >> sorry. Uh, but as you had said, you had someone that wanted the tenure. I mean,
>> no, no, no. Just that we've given an option. There's some that might He might want to pay it off. >> There's I was going to say there's no penalty if they >> pay it off if they were to pay. >> Can they make higher payments like you can with your mortgage? And
>> you'd have it'd have to be all amortised out and done. >> Have to revertise it every time >> an extra. >> Who would do that? >> Yeah. >> They're either going to decide after maybe when they sell it, they'll say >> it. I can get a little more value if
it's paid off. Maybe I'm just, >> you know, because the one gentleman I talked to, I don't know if he's in the audience. is he out there that who called and yelled and screamed at me and [laughter] admit it now to um which was fine because I called I he
sent a very scathing email and we were in Tallahassee just coming back sitting there and I got up and these guys didn't know why I got up and walked away but then I talked to him and and he understood then you know and um not that you tried to
not give the right information some people just hear what they want to hear at the moment and but when I explain it to them, oh no, that's good. Thank you. You know, so um but no, I think that I think most people are going to do the it'll just be on their tax bill at the end of the year and done. But there was
one for sure that I know wants to pay it off. >> Um >> I think when they go to sell their units, they'll probably to induce a buyer >> Yeah. >> in this market, they're going to want to just have it already paid off. Yeah, that might happen at some, but it may make it valuable or it may make it easier to do.
>> Exactly. >> So, Mr. Mayor, just real quick, I was talking to Mrs. Santa Maria. Um, really what we need as far as the term is is kind of an automatic term decision. So, she just said that there's there's some options that we can give the homeowners
as far as a payoff, um, different amortization and so forth. So, I don't want to get in the weeds to it. Quite frankly, I couldn't explain it at this point, but Julie could. I just don't it's not a decision that we need to make today, right? >> Um, but if we are re if we reach out to
each resident and we don't hear anything back, essentially council today can say, "Okay, well, we're going to set the term at X, you whether it's 10, 15, or 20 years." Um but there are some payment options that we can that we'll meet with
the with the association and kind of go through them very specifically. Um and then that that everybody then has a choice to do whatever is comfortable for them. So really we just need a an automatic set of if we do not hear from the resident and we don't have a chance
to meet with them and go through the options and they pick an option then then kind of the default or the automatic term is going to be >> whatever council decides today. >> Go ahead. >> So when you say options are you saying like the way you can do with your tax bill or are you talking about they'll be
able to decide 10year 20 year >> Oh so you're going to give them an option? Yeah, it's it's repayment options, right? We're going to give them some options. I didn't I didn't I've never done the assessments before. So, Julie's more of the expert, but again, that's you're we're getting into the details of each one because what we just
talked about was there were quite a few options that are available. Um, but each homeowner could pick one of those options and if they don't pick anything, >> they default to the law. the automatic or the default is whatever the 20 if you guys decide 20 years,
>> okay? >> Then they go off that amortization schedule usually for 20 years and that's what they pay on their on their tax bill. But if if somebody says, "Well, let me think about it, you know, and I want to, you know, I want to 30 days to determine, you know, if I want to pay it off or if I want to just have it on my
tax bill, then that's something we'll come back to council with and say, here are the options that we can present." [clears throat] and then council can approve some of these options that are afford that would be afforded to each homeowner. And again, really what we
need to set today is if we don't hear from a homeowner or we're not able to get in touch with them and and we have to move forward, then the default will be whatever we set today, >> but it sounds like the request is for 20 year. >> Yeah. >> In general, but the maximum is 20 years,
right? Vice Mayor [clears throat] Moore and then Miss Coachman. >> Does it work like And this might be a question for um this is a question either for Mr. Williams or um >> um Julie. I was I was trying to do your last name. I know. I'm sorry. [laughter] >> Um does this work like a pace lean? Like
they have to request a payoff and then pay it off at some point? Do you you know what I'm are you familiar with those or is this just really on the tax role like a special taxing district and Yes, Julie Santa Maria with PFM
Financial Advisors LLC. We are the city's financial adviser. Uh it is more on an amount that's on the tax bill. So, um, in practice, I'm not sure if the individual would need to contact the
city and ask you how much is remaining on their amount to pay off, but they could pay it off on any payment date typically is how it's set up where you would not have a penalty, but you would pay the interest only up to that date,
the interest due up to that date, and then pay it off >> on the balance, >> right? What your portion is of >> Yes. So, if if let's say if someone selected a 20-year amortization, but then in three years decided, I have extra money and I would like to pay it off now, they could do so without any
penalty, and they would have paid the financing costs and interest up to that date. >> Okay. I think I guess the nature of my question was uh and it probably is a little too in the weeds uh for this conversation, but it relates to whether or not they will be will they have to in
a sale situation pay it off. That could be the city's choice whether to require that to be paid off upon sale or to allow the purchaser to continue to to assume that and make those payments. >> Okay.
>> Probably keeping it flexible is is good, but but we've seen it both ways. >> Okay. >> So, what do we need as a a motion today to continue going and start the project? I think
>> yes. >> No, you go ahead because I'm in line. >> Okay. Vice Mayor Moore pretty much asked some questions that satisfied what I wanted to say. But um if the request is 20, which is, you know, a little more
palatable in terms of the um annual cost on their taxes. Um, I I feel like we should be a lot more flexible in terms of if they decide to sell, if you decide to sell, whether you
want to pay it off or not, you know, but I do know, but at least it would be lower, you know, if we could at least go on the lower side if, you know, they're selling and they can at least say, well, it's
not it's not uh 475,000. It's just three. I mean, yeah, it's [laughter] it's um you know um just the lower amount. I'm I'm trying to read real quick, but with and without. But I I I just feel like it would be for th that
person that is not sitting on a big pot of money um to do the 20 year um in terms of paying back and then working out the other having some allowances to work out the other options. I know I kind of ramble through
that, but >> No, no, you're good. >> Because I, you know, it was very important to me that as many residents in me 100% knows, you know, are informed about it. And of course, you're not going to ever get responses until it hits you, you know.
>> Yeah, sure. Well, just just real quick. So, just so everybody knows, the the sheet that you're looking at in front of you, the annual payment is so say for the the 20-year term is $561. The very last >> Mhm. number, right? So then the 15 year
is 646 and then the 10 year is 838. So that's their annual payment every year. >> That'll be on the tax bill that would be on the tax rate often. >> Correct. Yep. >> And also that's a very conservative interest rate just sort of a not to exceed and the actual amount today will
be much lower in terms of interest cost. I will tell you as a property manager when we get the estoppel to when a unit is sold. >> Okay. So this has to be divulged on the >> uh for now. Okay. Once this hits the tax
bill though then it's part of the tax bill. So when the realtor um lists that house at that point it's on the tax bill and who's ever buying usually gets a copy of that tax bill and
we'll see it. So these kind of things are normally a negotiation between the buyer and the seller. Agreed. The delicate part of this is that first year before it hits the tax bill to make sure that what is being sold the people are being told, "Hey, by the way, you're
going to have a little higher taxes than what what the tax bill now states." >> Got Would you would you disclose that before you give the estopples that are necessary for the bank to provide lending? >> It's required. Um, but take for granted I only manage
three of the 15 condominium associations at this point. Um, so I uh, you know, I have sent out because we went through the problem with the the SERS and the engineer the structural engineering
thing. So I put a little thing together and I sent it out to the different property management companies and say you need to talk to people about the SERS and you need to talk to them about this project that these are possible things. Now whether they do or not, but
according to statute 718, if they don't put it on the estoppel, honestly and truly, whoever fills that estoppel out is 100% responsible for whatever is not uh included in that estoppel.
>> Miss Barnaby and then Vice Mayor Moore, >> do we have an an anticipated year that this would begin on the tax bills >> as soon as possible? 2127. [laughter] >> Okay. So, >> yeah, we'd have our first payment. So, it would have to be on the 26th tax
bill. >> Okay. >> I guess so. Want >> that out there, too? >> When we got our tax bills, >> it will be on it. >> Be on it. [clears throat] Okay. >> So, it'll be in a rears the way the taxes are or when you start are you paying forward because I've had that nightmare.
>> Yeah. Our first payment would due our first principal payment would due February 1st, 27 by this form. So we have to collect it on this coming up year's tax to be able to make that payment. >> So the first payment is 27. >> Yeah. 2127.
>> So then you're going to collect it in the fall of this year. So you're not going to be in a rears and you're collecting it then for the next year. >> Pay the first payment. >> So see that's the opposite of what taxes are, >> right? So >> it gets confusing at >> and again not to get too far into the
financing but if we have to decide if we are going to borrow the money or we're going to use you know maybe some reserve I mean really there's a nitly of things that we need to present to council on the financing side to to get approval for today we're simply are we moving
forward with the project >> then we get >> and if we are what what default term or automatic term do you want to have set. We'll come back um and I just talked with Mrs. Rutder saying we'll come back with agreements, the financing details
and everything to then get approved by council with what we have set in place. >> So if 42 units don't pay for whatever reason, do we own them? >> We could lean them. Yeah, I mean we
could for technically the tax collector or the clerk, >> right? So at a tax sale, >> a tax certificate would be sold >> and so it would not be the city's obligation. >> We would we would be made whole. >> Yes. >> At some point. >> Yes. >> At a tax at a tax sale.
>> So we're not we're not owning or foreclosing on people. It's on their tax record. >> The tax lean exactly like any other item on the tax bill. >> Vice Mayor Moore than Miss Barnaby. >> So I think so I mean and this is really more for my personal education. Um, so
it sounds like this because I think to what I was trying to get at a little bit um I think Mr. Perry was also starting to go down that path is um this sounds more like a like a community development district type bond that
they're paying off. Not a like when I say pace lean, that's that environmental one that people can get like new windows, but that's an actual lean that has to be paid off at a sale. Um, so it sounds more like it's like a CDD and it continues on, but they have the option. Okay, >> Miss Par,
>> Mr. Williams, could you put up the slide of the things that you wanted to make sure that we did today? >> Yeah. >> Or the things you wanted blessing over, however you want to say it. I got to just scroll down to the bottom,
but you know what? That's not fun. >> All right. So, what the first thing is, you know, given the fact that we've the Mr. Perry and and and myself have met with the association. We made some requirements on informing each resident.
We've the association's done that. Uh, we've certified that each resident or each property owner received a letter via certified mail. Um, I think at this point, is there anything else council would like to see the association do? Is there any
additional information or some kind of communication to the to the actual property owner? I think in in my opinion, and Mr. Perry, please jump in if you feel differently, but I think we've covered the basis of what we needed to and we just wanted to make sure that all port all parties today
because this has been going on for a couple of years and there may have been some transition of residents and owners that we wanted to make sure that everybody knew the history where you know where we started the process we went through to get it um and then where we are today. So and then just to make
sure that every single resident and owner knew that this is something that the association is requesting of the city and we need to decide if the city wants to participate. So, so the next, so the next thing is again final council
approval or deny if we want to if we decide that we going to we are going to approve the water main replacement project then determining what your automatic or or default rate or term would be not rate your term sorry um on the repayment period
>> and ultimately what we would be requesting is a motion we don't need a resolution at this point or anything like that we'd be requesting a motion to approve proceed ing um with the water main project and financing as proposed. We'd probably like you to make a
determination to one of these categories to look at and based on the request of of Molly on behalf of the association and property manager as well as some of the points that were made by Councilwoman Coachman about keeping it lower. I I I would recommend the 22
because it's kind of like that's going to be the lowest amount. And if you look at the bottom of it, uh the the the worksheet that's been put together, that annual assessment of $561 comes out to about $45 per month. That's the lowest one. And if someone pays it off early,
as was discussed as well, just like you would with a car loan, a home mortgage, or the like that doesn't have a prepayment penalty, you just come in and you pay what you owe for crude interest and principal at that point. Somebody hits the lottery, somebody sells the house, somebody gets a better job, whatever it might be. Somebody sells a kidney,
>> somebody [laughter] all kinds of things, >> all kinds of options >> for sure. And and and ultimately what would happen if you did approve that motion is we would come back with the specifics on a resolution, >> right? That would authorize um Kim and the folks over there to kind of deal
with the the the contractors and utility contractors, folks like that um and proceed with Scott, Mr. Ruticell probably and anyone else contacting the tax assessor and >> move forward. >> Yeah. Moving forward the levy.
>> Speaking of tax assessor, have we checked are they going to charge us a fee to do this >> because they now are charging the school board a fee for collecting a millillage. >> So that has to be factored in.
>> Yes. And those those amounts are factored in. So, um, typically any fees associated with the project and with the benefit are included in the assessment. >> Okay? We just don't want to say, "Oh, now they're they didn't charge the first year. Now they're charging and where are
we at?" So, >> right now, if if you have a prepayment period, let's say 60 or 90 days where someone can prepay before the financing begins, then they would not incur any of those fees. >> All right. All right. Just wanted that
on the record, too, because we know what the school district's going through now. Um, in a good or bad way. I'm not saying either way, but just they're dealing with it. Miss Barnaby. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, personally I think that
the the city and the A master association has worked very well together and has made considerable effort to try to make sure that residents of Ironwood and Pinebrook know what what's
happening. So, as as a council member, I'm comfortable and I don't feel that we need to require them to do any more. Um, and I'm prepared to make a motion that um, we proceed with the information that was presented today that we accept the
recommendation from the uh, a board and management suggesting or or asking for the 20-year assessment to be the assessment that is assigned with the understanding if someone wants to pay it in totality,
they can do that and I'm trying to see if there what else do I need to add to it that we just >> our options available that that we we have those options available and that we get this process going and whoever at public works needs to get going get
going and city attorney get going and let's make this thing happen. >> Second. [laughter] >> I heard Miss Coachman. All right. So we have that motion and a second. We've had a lot of discussion.
We'll start the vote in ward three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Thank you very much. App brew. Five to zero. Thank you to everybody for coming. >> Thank you. >> And I know it's been a long process, but we're going. Final comments by Mr.
Thompson. >> For the record, my name is Stephen Thompson, attorney for the association. >> It's been a long process. >> Party one. Move on. No, [laughter] but I want to make sure that you recognize your staff because the staff did an unbelievable job. They worked with us.
Um, you know, it was a long process, but every time we needed something, they were there. So, I want to make sure that they get the credit because we really appreciate what they did for us. And I mean, it was Mr. Perry, Mr. Rutil, and the public works department working
together to make this happen. And I want to make sure that you understand that because we really appreciate that. So, thank you very much. >> I appreciate Johnson saying that. And Miss Clayback's in the back of the room and she's been working on this for years as well. And the technical aspects of the of the engineering and the
construction and the procurement and everything else has been the financing and and all. And we appreciate the the homeowners, the residents >> that put themselves out as HOA board members because we know that is
definitely a job >> that volunteers that don't go unpunished. [laughter] >> And now you're down here at lunchtime. If you haven't been down here for lunch, >> you've got wonderful restaurants. Treat as as they say on parks recreation,
treat yourself. >> Merry Christmas everyone. >> Thank you for coming. Thank you, M. Merry Christmas. Thank you, Mr. Perry. >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh the final two matters are going to be holdovers from
the previous items which is going to be involving a resolution request for some uh very significant funding that was received um through through uh it it it it's basically
hurricane funding related to infrastructure projects. It goes from federal EPA down to D through SRF and ultimately to the city. And we need a couple of resolutions for both the
drinking water resolution and I believe it's going to be the clean water resolution. This of course was uh was shephered and and bought to us and applied for and and and and highly managed by our partners
with Wooded and Curran and their fiscal solutions team um Morgan French and and Tom and the folks on that team just have done a remarkable job um in getting us significant funding that's related to these two particular resolutions. Um
Ryan Watson is here. Scott Shannon from uh Woodard and Curran who's actually in charge of their their consulting business leader from I believe it's New Mexico all the way through the southeast and Virginia are here and would have you know stand for any questions and the like. Our team work really closely with
their team and I couldn't be prouder of the results and and the teamwork that's gone into these two um funding supplements that we've received. They're significant. Um 35 million on one, 19 on the other. They're composed basically of
100% forgivable loans. Um and we received the maximum each category um of the of the total grant to the state of Florida and the various caps on those grants for each particular eligibility category. In addition to that, we also
kind of in a barely prioritized position to receive additional funding um from those funding sources and beyond with SRF. And I'll turn it over to Lance if >> he's talking to the people. >> All right. Well, >> Ryan's here. Ryan, you want to come up
and say anything? You and Scott? >> Okay. And and I think the memo spells out in detail what I've kind of out outlined already. >> Good a or no, good morning. >> Good morning, afternoon. Good, good morning still, Mr. Mayor, uh members of
council and staff. Uh Scott Shannon with Word and Current. So, yes, both these resolutions, as Mr. Perry pointed out, uh really at this stage, we're we're looking for uh permission to go ahead and file the loan applications on your behalf. Uh the money's already been awarded to you. Um and because it's principal forgiveness, there is a loan
application that has to be filed, but again, there's no there's no debt to the city for this because the the the principal will all be forgiven. Um I'm happy to answer any other questions you have about that. But in both cases the um as Mr. Prairie pointed out the these programs came from from EPA through Department of Environmental Protection.
They are focused on um response and resilience to future natural disasters. So it was a it was a funding allocation that was specifically for Lean and Milton. Um obviously your community was was affected by those storms. Um, I've got to say, you know, I mean, the success of this application, you know,
we're we're happy to help, but it took a lot of help from from staff to get to put those together and really justify what what in, as Mr. Perry pointed out, were were the maximum allocations that any community got in both drinking water and waste water. So, kudos and congratulations to you all. >> Yeah. Well, thank you. I'll just say if
anybody else has anything, but um, we made a great decision back when we hired your company. Um, not because we subbed it out per se or or changed, but because we were looking at the whole picture in our face it and fix
it. And you know, we can't say that enough about face it and fix it. the way our plant is going there at the wastewater system while still getting all of the other things and then still working with you because it's something that when when I look back over all the
years I don't know that much could have changed before us but to face it and fix it is we're going forward and you would never wish for hurricanes you never wish for disaster but you got to face and fix what we're in and with your company being you know part of it with our staff
being part of it with legislatively the way we're working as a team to to work with our legislators, you know, everything is playing into this cog and this wheel that's working well. So, we appreciate, you know, the the importance of Woodard and Curran, the also the
extra stuff that goes on outside of the wastewater plant only, but as well as our staff and and pushing hard to even get more. So, you know, we we talk about the 54.3 we got already. There's upwards
of another 80 to uh 200 million that might be available >> that and seeing us doing the right things. Now, it's how quick can we get the boots on the ground for the work done and we're already at that point. We were very lucky this se I don't want it's luck it's just maybe the Indian
burial grounds is back >> but [laughter] for the whole country but we had nothing this year even with the heavy rains and the one time we did have a heavy rain we had a situation but we are working on that as well as Mr. Perry
and I have met with an individual that we'll be bringing back to this board that will help us sell our message because the me was said to me that we could do everything we're doing and some of our waterways still be exactly where
they are and then it would look like we wasted the money. But you've got to sell the message, the face it and fix it message also with the why we're doing it. And I think that this gives us that other cog in the wheel that moneywise that we don't have to pay back that also
then will fix the little thing for the future because a lot of stuff we're fixing now a lot of us won't see why we're up here but it'll be done and we'll be proud to say that we've done it generationally. Vice Mayor Moore, >> do I understand correctly that we have flexibility with the projects like we
haven't there's not one particular project or many that we had to formally identify and go. >> So the application was was very general in nature and talked about the um generally the the improvements that needed to happen whether that be waste water or drinking water. They're two
separate applications. Um the the the amount that we applied for in both cases were greater than than the amount that was awarded. Again, you guys got the maximum cap for any any community in both categories. But what the burden on the the next thing we that's part of the it's not part of the application, but
once the application is approved, um the next step will be to do a facilities plan that identifies the specifics how you're going to use the specific allocations in each of those categories on what specific projects. Okay. So, yes, there is some flexibility there within within the description of what the application uh what what went into
the application. >> Right. Gotcha. Okay. Great. Thank you. Ju just on that point if I I think I think Scott's done a good job of kind of touching on that because it's obviously a fairly important question. Um we responded with looking at our wastewater
system under the opice of clean water that involves a variety of different both collections and treatment components that's well known by anybody that does these types of things. And so we'll have to get together basically
figure out how to prioritize those. And uh Miss Claybach and and her team over there have done a really good job of kind of getting us out in the lead where we've included them in in the application and they looked at and said, "Yeah, these are the types of projects that would qualify." On the clean water
side, we haven't talked as much about that, I should say, on the drinking water side, but we have an aged uh reservoir that needs some significant upgrades at the treatment plant as well as the distribution system there um as well. And so, it's the 3519 split and
and I assure you that we'll need every bit of that 35 to do some of those major enhancements. And and and it's fairly quick money in the terms of grant money. um this as far as far as getting it to the project. Um there's some
restrictions on you can't do certain things until you get certain approvals and the like, but it's some of the fastest money I've seen actually out there um that comes through the federal system and then ultimately through the state um subawwards and things of that nature. So we will see these projects
fairly fairly quickly. When I say fairly quickly, you know, you're you're probably talking about concept and design coming up the end of this year and thereafter probably being able to look at construction starts on some of these projects or at least procurement
and construction short starts shortly thereafter. And so we're gonna get done in in probably five years what would have otherwise taken 15 to 20 because really when you look at where the funding comes from um the rate is the
last thing you want to hit. That's what we typically use when we obtain the SRF funding for our well for our our um our lining program and and and also for our clarifier. that was 1% SRF money but it
was still loans basically and to that extent in order to pay those loans we have to go to the rate pay payers and you know be able to show SRF that we have the capacity to service the debt here it's going to be a little bit different um because it doesn't hit the
rate directly it's 100% forgivable loan you're looking basically when I do some quick math at about $und00 million that we've basically been able to obtain through SRF funding, ARPA funding, um different types of D grants, state appropriations, and other funding s
sources. That's just over the last probably somewhere on the order of three to four years. That SRF funding they started before I even got here, frankly. Um but that's $und00 million. Now you're looking at another probably hundred on top of it, you know, with this being 53,
some backup money between local mitigation, other types of funding. And a community the size of Bradington, quite frankly, would have never been able to get that that type of funding had it not been for both availability, for it not been for good bandwidth of
our folks doing good things, for it not been having partners, had it not been having good leadership, frankly. So, we should be proud of what we've done and we've done a lot, but we got a lot more to do. >> Ready for a motion? >> Barnaby. >> Yeah.
>> Trying to move quickly here. [laughter] >> I'd like to make the motion to approve resolution 25-11 and authorize the mayor to execute the loan application, loan agreement, and the supporting documents. Please. >> Miss Coker the loudest.
>> I didn't even try that. >> All right. I'll uh start the vote in ward four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Miss Barnaby. >> What?
>> There's another one. [laughter] >> I'm sorry. >> Cover memo. >> I I was out of the room when we decided to do it together. Yes. So, I'd like to move for approval of resolution 2512. >> Second. >> All right. Miss Barnaby, I move to
approve. Miss Coachman second. Start the vote in ward five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> All right. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. >> Tell you guys we have some pretty good restaurants in town. [laughter]
>> So, one of the other things that I think is is so important is and we're still asking for more appropriations to go towards this. We're still working with others and the other monies. So, it's we could have never taxed our way out of this as Mr. Perry was mentioning about
things. And I really feel confident that in 26, even though people don't see anything right now, they're going to start seeing a lot of boots on the ground and projects going and happening that are going to make things better. And when
you really look at the wastewater plant, I think we're going to have a great 3D design pretty quick that's coming out. So, yeah, that'll be very interesting to see how uh you'll be able because people want to see and feel it. And um it's
interesting and I'm just going to say this because we had the media here for about 30 seconds today and obviously they don't care about our crap, >> you know, and [laughter] uh we keep we keep until it's a message of us not doing something. But I say that tongue
and cheek because some of the things that we're working are difficult. But what do you see we've done today has been been so great and we could have never taxed our way out of it. But we've strategically through our administration, through the elected officials, through our staff have now
got getting things done and boots on the ground and that's what's fun to see. But, you know, we can see the above ground stuff, but the below ground they'll never see and we're going to keep working that and excited to move things forward. Um, council reports. Um,
Mr. Rudel and I and probably Mrs. Moore. Um, I'm going to start out with a little congratulations to our Florida State fans. [laughter] Women's girls soccer got a parade coming into the airport yesterday with a from their fire department shooting the water towers over for winning the the
championship in soccer. So, congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Ward two, >> you always start with me. Um along those lines, I'd like to to say thank you to uh Jane Coker because I remember some of
our very first council meetings and how you fought for us to get into the the the realm of Tallahassee and Washington with having representation there, not just our elected officials, but others that have helped us. And I think that it
has paid off magnificently and I appreciate you championing that. Thank you so um want to thank the village of the arts for uh having a wonderful holiday event last Saturday where uh Mayor Santa and uh first lady Claus was
there and there was a crazy elf running around too. >> So that was a lot of fun. I want to thank the uh the staff of of Realized Bradenton for putting on a tremendous winter wonderland with all of the
volunteers that they had there and all of the activities and I don't know we we probably throughout the night could have hit between 8 to 10,000 people down there. It was a big crowd >> and it was very good to see. I would
like to extend my deepest sympathies to the family of uh Brenda Harvey. Uh Miss Harvey was an educator here in town. She taught at just about every level. She taught at elementary school, middle school, and at Manatee High School. Just
an amazing lady who will be missed. And also want to get through this The Middleton family was an awesome African-American family
in our community and they pretty much single-handedly integrated just about every school in our school system. Their parents were educators and the children went to a
different school every year. I can't imagine doing that. I had enough trouble with just my two boys and my niece in one school. But that is what the family did. It was, I believe, their family mission.
And Kim Middleton was in my third grade class at Ballard. Mark's fourth grade class at Palm Sola and then when he went to Miller, she was in his fifth grade class at Miller Elementary.
And Kim graduated with Miss Coachman and myself. She was uh an educator. She was also a journalist. She was a friend to this community, someone to be admired,
and she will be deeply missed. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. Barber. Mr. Schustler, >> um just wanted to uh echo sort of the same uh comments about Councilwoman Barnaby in the village of arts. Uh
seeing uh Mr. and Mrs. Claus and the Elf and uh the community events that were there. Um it was a big success. Uh Winter Wonderland, as long as I've been around, uh it's probably the biggest turnout. It's definitely the biggest
turnout that I've seen. So off of those two, just wanted to wish everyone a uh a safe and happy holiday season. And regarding Ward three, I look forward to seeing all of my neighbors. one of the reasons I was attracted there to begin
with, our potluck dinner coming up. So, uh, happy holidays to everyone. >> Thank you, Miss Vice Mayor Moore. >> Um, I, um, I don't have much to report. I was just, um, I had the pleasure of being sworn in on Monday as the
secretary treasurer of the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council. So, I'm looking forward to working more um, integrally with that organization. And and of course, as always, I will uh forward all the information that I get to our uh wonderful admin staff as they
uh and and our public works uh planners and engineers as um as anything as relevant to the work that you all do for resiliency in our area. I'm very excited about the progress that we're making in that regard. And I just have one little
thing, which is just recently someone was asking me about the alleys downtown and maintaining them, basically complaining that they were a little unkempt. And I don't know if that's a police uh thing I pass along or public works. Um, but I'm just throwing that
out there. I just heard about that yesterday and letting you all know. I haven't noticed anything, but I'm just letting you know that that someone was asking me about that. Um, other than that, I was very sorry to miss uh, winter wonderland this year. I It's always so fun. I love the familyfriendly
activities when we do those downtown. And but I was traveling, so hopefully next year will be just as wonderful, I imagine. And merry Christmas and happy holidays [clears throat] to everyone. >> Thank you. And I I I'll go on the alleys, especially the one alley that we're getting beat up on a lot right now behind Jess and Cava and some other
areas. Um the statement was made that I did something at some point that came from a council person here that um in 1924 I wasn't even alive when the singlearies did [laughter] it. So I just want the people to get the information out correctly.
>> Yeah. Neither was I. >> Yeah. So but but before we start, you know, we've got to work together. And to me, when somebody [clears throat] says something, come to us. And I it was sad that I heard that that you told somebody something and I don't believe that you
did, Mrs. Moore, but but that's when it came to me that Mrs. Moore said something to another person that told us and the mayor did something. Well, I wasn't alive in 1924. >> Yeah, I just say anything like that. >> Well, that's why again, we can't talk outside of this meeting. That's why I'm
glad you brought it up because it wasn't my >> And that actually wasn't even the alley. It was the one next to the coffee shop and the sandwich shop that they were telling me about the one with the gates. >> And that's been a lot of >> conversations. But no, about the Cavo one though, I will tell you exactly what happened. Um, I went down a rabbit hole actually of how did that happen and how
did we get there? And I did uh realize that it it that action was taken. I don't know if it was 2024. That was the plat I think >> 1924, >> right? 1924 I think was when the plat was recorded. But then something happened in 2018 that was actually the
county doing something that I've never even heard of. >> So I have no idea what happened and I >> the person that it got back to me from said that you said that that the mayor did something. So again 2018 I wasn't mayor either. >> Yeah. No, I couldn't I was looking for a vacation and I couldn't find one but I
did go down a rabbit hole >> vacation up a road or not. Correct. You weren't looking to go to >> No, I would love to go on a vacation but no. >> That's why I don't take it personal if there's something. >> No. If I thought you'd done something, I would have just >> Right. Yeah. So, but that was what you know because again, we've done a lot of
research through the city surveyors and all of that to try to make a business be able to have a a way to do it because you know how important it is to me with not just Main Street 13. >> Absolutely. Yeah. 100%. She works in my building and for me when she expressed
what was happening, it was more of a >> title question that I thought was interesting. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Because again, we've traced it all the way back to 1924 with the singlearies, right? And there was never an alley there. >> Yeah. I had no idea. There was no vacation. Never was an alley. >> There was no vacation that I could find.
But now what I've asked staff to do at some point is let's bring all of the property owners in and that sometimes seems to solve things better because you know one person will say well I'll give a I'll give them an access to get to the garbage then when it comes down to the
public part of it no I'm not doing that right but if you're all in the same room before it comes down to it then we can work it out. But no I'm glad you brought that up because that and it wasn't something that I took personal but it was just >> information is king and that's what we're going to keep doing. So, all
right. Thank you. Um, Mrs. Coachman, >> thank you. Y'all know about that he say she say stuff, right? [laughter] Well, you know, it's usually one side, this side somewhere in middle is the truth. Um, I Mrs. Barnaby, I appreciate
you bringing up um those two beautiful, great, phenomenal women. Um, Miss Harvey was a trailblazer. Her daughter works at Lee Middle. Well, she's out on leave right now, but she um
I have the opportunity to work with her daughter. Um, a a great woman. Great woman. The second person you spoke of, Kim, I bet I bet it's what we often called her
in the neighborhood. another great woman, another trailblazer in her own right. Um, I grew up with Kim. I could walk to her house in 20 seconds.
Um, great family and uh, she left a mark. She did both of them. Um and and I am um I feel blessed to know both of them and
really know them well. Um as far as war five, um lots going on. You know, I always say wart 5 is alive, but it really is. I mean, um the um mini rogers site and it's ward five, so I can
talk about it, I think. [laughter] Um, I I see before I even go to work, the Woodruff and Sons trucks, they're working. And I I'm so glad that they've started working on that water line or what have you because there were some
neighbors that complained to me that their streets weren't paved when the other streets were newly paved. And I said, "There's something in the works. Don't worry, they didn't forget you." And so I'm glad now that they understand
why we didn't pave their road because we would have been just tearing up new um roadway. Um um happy holidays to everyone. I'm sorry. [laughter] Happy holidays. Be safe. Enjoy. Be with
your loved ones. Don't eat too much because you know your doctor will be very upset. [laughter] >> Too late. >> Well, that was in the past. Thanksgiving was in the past. Um there's just so much. There's so much. Um but just
actually enjoy the season because this is really the best time of the year. >> Thank you, Mrs. Coker. >> Thank you. Uh I I feel a little bit redundant, but I I do want to say thank you to Realized Brain. And I thought
Winter Wonderland was just wonderful. Uh we couldn't we had such great weather and it just was such a nice crowd out there. Nice family um atmosphere. Um so there I mean there's just nothing better than seeing the families down there enjoying
and uh supporting our businesses and and uh c celebrating the Christmas season. Um, I did uh not to get negative, but I was a little bit and I've already um talked to a couple of people about this, but you know, I was a little
disappointed because I don't drive much at night and as I left and all the beautiful lights downtown and then we got on I got on Manatee Avenue going west and there was nothing. So, I would like to see, and I've talked to the
county and to keep Manatee beautiful, I really would like to see us work towards getting all of Manatee Avenue um decorated for the holiday season next year. Um so, I've kind of tked that to the to the mayor to take it on, which uh
hopefully he will. And um because you know there there just isn't anything on the west side. And I think that and if you go out to Lakewood Ranch and you see um what Benderson's done at UTC, I mean, it's just amazing. I mean, I can hope
for that. But um but maybe some of these shopping centers on the west side could could do a little bit more to And so if we got it all together maybe and spearheaded it, um maybe something could happen for next year. Um >> and I think like you said, Westgate used
to do stuff years ago. It just is nothing. I mean, maybe things were damaged in the storm, you know, but let's try to get going >> going forward. It is the holiday season. Um, I know this is a tough time for a lot of people because of the loss that
some people have suffered. So, I hope that we're able to pull together and support each other. Um, you know, for people, but remember that this is a uh the reason for the season and I hope that everybody's able to um be with their families. And if not, reach out to
someone, you know, for help. Um, I wish everybody a very merry Christmas and thank and I'm also thankful to all the staff and all of you. Um, we have a lot of fun up here. I know we're doing a lot of good work, but um, I want to thank all of you. You mean a lot to me.
>> Thank you, >> Mr. Mayor. If I could, just one more thing. Um, Bill Ackles and his family come in every year on their own time and decorate our chambers and decorate the lobby area again on their own time. They
do it as a family activity. >> You think they do man for me? [laughter] >> I don't know. I I tal I talked to Jen. She's the one that gets stuff done in that family. Um, but I I it's it's appreciated and the fact that they do it
as a family and now they're bringing their granddaughter in >> and she's helping. >> So, I just I just wanted to say thank you and I I forgot to mention that. So, thank you for >> definitely for for Bill and his family and and it's almost like a tradition for
him now which do it as the for their city and Bill's a >> 30 year plus employee. Um, Village of the Arts was was so much fun on Saturday. Um, we're working obviously to get Village of the Arts to thriving
community that it deserves to be and and some of that starts with our some even with um City Park and the way those things you're going to start seeing more. 2026 is going to be really a lot of visual stuff that you'll start seeing more behind the scenes on things
happening. So, that's just exciting times there. Of course, my wife and I love doing it and our little elf that we have help us uh in some things. Um, one of the things too also with our Face It and Fix It and we will talk a little bit
about that tomorrow at the workshop, but I was proud to see that not only that we got the money, but Palmetto also got 19 million, 19 plus million towards to help some of that because, you know, when you look at it, if we're doing it and they're not or because they don't have the funds, it's going to be good. So
they see the need for our community and Mante County got some that wasn't all forgivable where Palmettos and ours is all forgivable. So some of those things are working through. But 2026 is going to be where you're going to see a lot more things happening visually and
continuing to improve the part of that's important with the face it fix it. And it does go back um when we got this council and Miss Coker pushing hard for the lobbyist then pushing the next which I think played right into everything else with Woodard and Curran and others
bringing them in because they saw that the need that we had and the desire that we had and you know Kim has done a great job with her staff and through with Jim McCullen at the time but there's only so much bandwidth and I think with uh the
administration we have now the way the makeup is coming out. Um, we have done a great job from the staff from Mr. Perry all the way down now working to make it better. And again, we can't tax our way out of this, but we can work our way out
of it. And we're really set up the future to wake it up. So, thank you for that. And especially to the staff and and everyone out there that's continuing on. And I'll be a broken record until there is nobody complaining, which will never happen, but [laughter] but we'll do it. So, thank you very much. Thanks
for everything that went today. Um, again, debate is very healthy. Um, and going back and forth to things, you know, and as we know, sometimes we don't always agree, but we do agree that we love our city and that 2025 was great
and 2026 will be be even greater. And merry Christmas, happy new year, happy Hanukkah, and all the religions that are out there. And we're going to keep striving to make it better for our grandchildren and their children for the future to come. So, department heads,
anyone specific? Um, looking forward to again a great workshop tomorrow, which is going to be all day in between the EDC. I know I see him. Um, I always save him for last because he's >> I'm like Maryann. >> Not the best for last, but the best for last.
>> Chief Gear, do you have anything? [laughter] Let let me get it in. Thanks for coming out and supporting the uh awards uh Friday last week. I know it was rescheduled. They were worried about attendance and all of I believe most all >> packed >> and it was packed. So, thank you very
much. Appreciate that. >> Chief Kramer, >> thank you. >> Um I want to thank you all in advance uh for your support of our upcoming community events. Uh Saturday from 9 to 2 is our annual toy drive uh which will be in the BPD front lot. um the
benefits, hope family services, mane children services, uh safe children's coalition and various daycare facilities within the city. And then Tuesday is our sort of signature event. It's going to be our 17th annual not annual but 17th
uh honoring the badge and it's being held again this year at Walmart. We partner of course with uh Pastor Don Staniano and Kingdom Life Church. He and Chief Raz are the ones who really started that all those years ago. And uh we're supported strongly by Kingdom Life Church, Walmart's
Foundation, uh Cox Chevrolet, and Jess Jewels. And we really appreciate their support. Um it's a great great night. We have I think right now we have 135 children. They're selected by uh various organizations throughout the those other organizations. Um Kingdom Life Church
has a lot that they put in. Um so but we're able to take the kids around and again you know every year we get support from city employees and fire department and you all and uh hope that continues in perpetuity
>> and um blessings for us for Pastor Don >> and his recovery. Yes, >> which I mean it it was scary for a while with everything we knew through CO. Yeah. But we're blessed that, you know, a lot of prayers through our city family
and the church and those events were um but I think he's going to make an appearance if he can. >> That's the that's the prayer. >> Be there on Tuesday night, which will be his first outing. >> Yeah. >> But um you know, if everything stays well, but um what that what that what he
has done for our city just in general has been something good and and I just think that it's great. But we We'll continue to pray for him with his keep uh his recovery going well. Anyone else? Again, congratulations.
Grandpa, what's your name? What's the name so far? Has it come out yet? >> The name of the child? >> Well, I'm Papa G. >> So, I know the name of the child, but it's not has you let him decide once he gets a little older. >> We talked about actually >> because I'm sure there's a lot of names
people could think of to call you, but >> I I will tell you. [laughter] >> Yeah, there is. You may want to think about >> otherwise you may >> Oh, are we taking suggestions now? All right. Well, merry Christmas again, everyone. Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah. And we'll be a journ.
>> I don't know what kind of granddad he's going to be.